Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: If you are just now joining us, you'll never believe this.
Speaker 2: But in the first hour, I once again was not
Speaker 2: was not at my best when it comes to clock management,
Speaker 2: which is why we h we had to make a
Speaker 2: decision and thanks to the one and only radio Rick Ryder,
Speaker 2: who made the right call. We had gone too long.
Speaker 2: Better off to just double up those breaks and finish
Speaker 2: strong and have you know, two hours where I'll have
Speaker 2: more opportunities to, you know, improve when it comes to,
Speaker 2: you know, getting break whenever, whenever, whenever I'm supposed to.
Speaker 2: But at least today maybe you'll understand that that it
Speaker 2: was a little bit more difficult to do because I
Speaker 2: did start the show by sharing some news that I'm
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about. And I'll try my best to
Speaker 2: condense this much more, making much more shorter than than
Speaker 2: than what we had in the first first segment in
Speaker 2: the three o'clock hour. But I went on this morning
Speaker 2: with Tony Cruz on news Radio eight forty whas and
Speaker 2: he introduced me as the new host to take over
Speaker 2: for him as the host Town Kentucky had his morning
Speaker 2: news when he retires at the end of this month.
Speaker 3: So that is the news.
Speaker 2: After roughly just under ten years here at seven ninety
Speaker 2: I I'll be moving on, and I'm excited. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled for the opportunity. Still can't believe that I
Speaker 2: have this opportunity, and I'm gonna do my best to to.
Speaker 3: Make it work.
Speaker 2: Right with an opportunity like this, I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do everything. I'm gonna make it work or die try.
Speaker 2: And that'll h That's really kind of my mindset. So
Speaker 2: it'll be a different job. Honestly, I'm still working in broadcasting,
Speaker 2: still working for the same company. However, you know, a
Speaker 2: much different type of radio show. And again, despite it
Speaker 2: being different, it's exciting to me. It's going to be
Speaker 2: a challenge, but I am very much looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: There are many of you that have said on the
Speaker 2: text line since I shared this last hour that you
Speaker 2: really never envisioned me wanting to do anything other than
Speaker 2: talking about sports, which I hear you. I'm kind of
Speaker 2: the same way. I never really even had thought about
Speaker 2: it until it was put on my radar well over
Speaker 2: a year ago that like maybe down the line when
Speaker 2: Tony gets to retirement, would would you be considered would
Speaker 2: you consider doing something like that if the opportunity was there.
Speaker 2: And at the time, I was thinking, well, you know,
Speaker 2: that's a big opportunity. That's that's clearly calmbing up the ladder,
Speaker 2: you know, in this industry that is broadcasting in radio.
Speaker 3: But you know, how would it work?
Speaker 2: And over time, you know, reflection, I realize I've I've
Speaker 2: grown up and you know, you don't have to. I
Speaker 2: don't act like sports talk is just for people who
Speaker 2: aren't grown up, because you know that's not the case
Speaker 2: really at all. But over time, I you know, I
Speaker 2: now realize I do have interest and I really do
Speaker 2: enjoy talking about things that aren't just sports. You know,
Speaker 2: I have thoughts on things that are very important that
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with sports, that of course other
Speaker 2: people are interested in as well. And you know, the
Speaker 2: news talk format is a big opportunity. And again we're
Speaker 2: talking about eight forty whas a legendary station, not only
Speaker 2: in this market when it comes to radio, but in
Speaker 2: the region and really just in talk radio in general.
Speaker 2: So that is the news I'll be finishing up these
Speaker 2: next two weeks here and as far as what becomes
Speaker 2: of this time slot on this station, I really don't
Speaker 2: have a clue and I'm not really entitled to know,
Speaker 2: but certainly if they do give me some information to
Speaker 2: pass along at some point, I will let you know,
Speaker 2: and I'll at least let them know what I think
Speaker 2: could work and hope they would consider. But you know,
Speaker 2: if they don't, that's their call, not mine, and they
Speaker 2: know way more about what goes into those decisions than
Speaker 2: I do. So when I do have information, I'll let
Speaker 2: you know. But what I'm going to do now is
Speaker 2: just make the most out of out of these last
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, which you know I I mean and
Speaker 2: when I say it, I grew up really not knowing
Speaker 2: a whole lot of what like sports radio was. I've
Speaker 2: told this story before, but like my first memory of
Speaker 2: hearing people talking about sports on the radio was on
Speaker 2: news radio eight forty whas and I was probably when
Speaker 2: I was in the car with my dad or my
Speaker 2: mom and they had HS on, and it was Lochlan
Speaker 2: McClain or Tony Cruz, probably Tony at the time when
Speaker 2: I was younger, talking about the big stories in sports
Speaker 2: and I just remember thinking like I didn't. I never
Speaker 2: knew it was a thing to where you could talk
Speaker 2: about Louisville in Kentucky, basketball and football on the radio
Speaker 2: like this is cool. It introduced me to you know, really,
Speaker 2: I guess talk radio in general. And then when I
Speaker 2: was about seventeen, eighteen years old, I suppose around that
Speaker 2: time when I had my first car. It was a
Speaker 2: Ford Escort ZX two. It's just an Escort, but I
Speaker 2: would tell people ZX two and they would like, what's that?
Speaker 2: That sounds like? That sounds fancy? And it was just
Speaker 2: a specific version of a Ford Escort. It wasn' anything crazy,
Speaker 2: but you know, it was my first car, and I
Speaker 2: would listen to AM radio. Friends would get in the
Speaker 2: car and be like, what what is your radio broke?
Speaker 3: What is this? This? This isn't music, This isn't you
Speaker 3: know what is this?
Speaker 2: So at that point I realized what seven ninety was.
Speaker 2: And I remember listening to the app Juno Underdogs with
Speaker 2: Tony ven Eddie and Adam Neft and thinking, man, this
Speaker 2: is this is cool. They're talking about you know, the
Speaker 2: local teams that I you know that I care a
Speaker 2: lot about, mostly Louisville and you know, obviously they would
Speaker 2: talk Kentucky as well, and fans would call in, and
Speaker 2: I just I kind of fell in love with the whole,
Speaker 2: you know, culture of local sports talk radio. And then
Speaker 2: I got a chance to listen to Joby and Denny
Speaker 2: and how great it was to hear those guys tell stories.
Speaker 2: And that's really when I got to listen more to
Speaker 2: Dave Jennings and to Tony Cruz when they sort of
Speaker 2: quarterback that show. And then I really fell in love
Speaker 2: with the Jim Rome Show, just because that was a
Speaker 2: different world as far as understanding the entertainment component that
Speaker 2: comes with with sports radio.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I just I was hooked. I loved it.
Speaker 2: It helped me get through drives, It helped me get
Speaker 2: through you know, work days, depending upon you know what
Speaker 2: time of the year it was. And there was no
Speaker 2: podcasting at this point, so you know, you would uh,
Speaker 2: you know, you you you'd only listen live and that
Speaker 2: was really the only way you could get it. But
Speaker 2: I I fell in love with it without any any
Speaker 2: even thought or dream, Hey, that's what I want to do,
Speaker 2: because I didn't even know what you what, how you
Speaker 2: would even get into something like that to be honest
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 3: So I was hooked.
Speaker 2: And then I decided to you know, create a website
Speaker 2: and just give my own perspective as a fan about
Speaker 2: the team I love and I'm and probably overly obsessed with.
Speaker 2: And that's and that's U of L. And then podcasting
Speaker 2: became some somewhat of a thing. And then I got
Speaker 2: an opportunity to uh to work in local radio here
Speaker 2: in this market by a great friend UH named Dugan Ryan,
Speaker 2: who you know first gave me the opportunity. And I
Speaker 2: realized right away that I wasn't necessarily just doing because
Speaker 2: it was cool to talk about my team like I
Speaker 2: really liked it. I really, you know, I wanted to
Speaker 2: do I wanted to just get repetition. I would do shows.
Speaker 2: And if you had told me nobody was listening, I mean,
Speaker 2: I still would have wanted to do it because I
Speaker 2: wanted to get better at it. I wanted to you know,
Speaker 2: I guess, cut my teeth if you will in what
Speaker 2: this is. So you know I care so this station specifically,
Speaker 2: I mean again, it's what introduced me to what this is.
Speaker 2: It was always a dream to ever get an opportunity
Speaker 2: to be on this specific station and now that I'm
Speaker 2: you know, just under ten years here in three different
Speaker 2: day parts from middays to mornings to now afternoons. You know,
Speaker 2: I think it's something that I try not to never take.
Speaker 2: I try to never take it for granted. Live in
Speaker 2: the moment, because it could be gone at any moment.
Speaker 2: You just never know when your last show is going
Speaker 2: to happen. So because of that, it's kind of hit
Speaker 2: me as I'm making this move to eight forty whas
Speaker 2: that wow, like, what a what an awesome run it was.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean to say like it was super
Speaker 2: successful or anything like that. I mean hopefully it was.
Speaker 2: It clearly was good enough to where they didn't get
Speaker 2: rid of me. But just to be able to have
Speaker 2: the opportunity like it has been a dream come true.
Speaker 2: And I suppose what I was able to do with
Speaker 2: you know, this opportunity here has somehow gotten me another
Speaker 2: opportunity that I'd be foolish to pass up on, and
Speaker 2: that is taking over for Tony Cruz on news Radio
Speaker 2: eight forty whas. So I'm not gonna get sappy and
Speaker 2: emotional at least now, but maybe it'll happen here and
Speaker 2: there because I just I love this station. I always
Speaker 2: will and it's not dying. I mean, it's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: It's still going to be here, but I won't be
Speaker 2: a part of it like I have been for every
Speaker 2: day for a huge chunk of my life. And that's also,
Speaker 2: I guess what's kind of hit me in the feels
Speaker 2: as I got ready this week to have this news
Speaker 2: put out there and tried to figure out, you know,
Speaker 2: my thoughts and how I wanted to talk about it
Speaker 2: with you guys. But you know, I'm thirty six, so
Speaker 2: I'm not like super young, but I'm also not you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I am. I'm in that in
Speaker 2: between range. I'm not young, but I'm not old, right,
Speaker 2: But you know, ten years roughly, I mean, that's a
Speaker 2: big part of that's a big part of somebody's life, right,
Speaker 2: And I think regardless of how old you how how
Speaker 2: long you live, ten years is not a small amount
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 3: Really for anybody.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think, And I've had about that amount of
Speaker 2: time here doing something that again every day is kind
Speaker 2: of a times it felt like a dream. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to make the most out of the time that
Speaker 2: we have left and will continue to keep it really
Speaker 2: whatever it has been. And I've always struggled for a
Speaker 2: long time at really telling people kind of this, this
Speaker 2: what the experience is of Coffee and Company, because obviously
Speaker 2: we do talk sports. We talk a lot about the
Speaker 2: local teams. Clearly I'm a Louisville fan, but I think
Speaker 2: it'd be foolish of me to do a show and
Speaker 2: just ignore the rival. It'd be foolish of me to
Speaker 2: do a show and not at you know, I can
Speaker 2: clearly let you know where my allegiance is, and I'm
Speaker 2: all U of l and I hope you can't lose
Speaker 2: this because they're the rival. But I'll also be willing
Speaker 2: to acknowledge and always have been that, you know, if
Speaker 2: they're good, I got to say it. Why would I
Speaker 2: lie to myself and anybody else that's not going to
Speaker 2: be good. I think to obtain listeners when I'm saying
Speaker 2: things that, like we all know, is not true, just
Speaker 2: to do the right so you know, I still here.
Speaker 2: We are not sure exactly how to describe what this
Speaker 2: experience is, but it's fun to me, and clearly those
Speaker 2: of you listening have probably been listening here and there.
Speaker 2: I would hope for a long time, and I appreciate
Speaker 2: you greatly, I really do. So, yeah, that's that's the news.
Speaker 2: If you missed it earlier that you know, some people
Speaker 2: on the text line or and even on Twitter asking
Speaker 2: the new what was the news?
Speaker 3: Well, that was it.
Speaker 2: I'm leaving here after the end of this month. My
Speaker 2: last show here for Coffee and Company will be May
Speaker 2: the thirtieth, two weeks from today, and then June second,
Speaker 2: I've got an early early wake up call that will
Speaker 2: then be my everyday wake up call for hopefully a
Speaker 2: long long time. But you know, I did I did
Speaker 2: say that to Tony this morning. You know, there's no
Speaker 2: way that ever gets easy, right, Like you never do
Speaker 2: you ever get used to just your alarm clocks going off.
Speaker 2: And I mean, look at there's people who get up
Speaker 2: every day at eight o'clock and that's something they dread,
Speaker 2: right because you know, when you sleep, you want to sleep.
Speaker 1: Sleep.
Speaker 2: It ends a beautiful thing. But I don't I would
Speaker 2: imagine it's a little bit more difficult whenever you look
Speaker 2: at the clock and realize it's you know, you just
Speaker 2: went to bed a few hours ago, which that's gonna
Speaker 2: be My biggest adjustment is I can't keep staying up
Speaker 2: till midnight or later because that would.
Speaker 3: Be a disaster.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I had the seven to ten shift here
Speaker 2: on the station for a long time, and I really
Speaker 2: did enjoy that. I really loved that and actually missed
Speaker 2: that more than I thought of it as far as
Speaker 2: just that that platform of morning drive radio. But I
Speaker 2: knew right away once I started coming in every day
Speaker 2: that I wasn't gonna get any sympathy from that crew
Speaker 2: with Tony and Scott Fitzgerald and Will Clark and those guys,
Speaker 2: because as I'm you know, wiping the sleep out of
Speaker 2: my eyes as I walk into our studios over there
Speaker 2: off Bishop Lane, these guys have already been on the
Speaker 2: air for you know, over an hour, and they've already
Speaker 2: been up for you know, four hours. So it's it's
Speaker 2: it's much different now.
Speaker 3: Rick.
Speaker 2: I know you have filled in on all of our
Speaker 2: shows across all of our stations here at iHeart Louisville.
Speaker 2: I mean three would you have when you come in
Speaker 2: to produce? I don't know how far your commute is,
Speaker 2: but like what would be like if you became Not
Speaker 2: to say you would ever sign up for it, because
Speaker 2: you know, you know you wouldn't want it. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you got to you don't want to wake up that early.
Speaker 2: But if you were to be filling in for a week, like,
Speaker 2: what time would you set your alarm?
Speaker 4: If I was doing the early morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, five am start time, I.
Speaker 4: Would get up at three o'clock in the morning. God,
Speaker 4: I usually tried to go. I usually aimed at going
Speaker 4: to bed at nine or nine thirty. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's hard for me to try to fall asleep that
Speaker 4: early in the evening, So I really would.
Speaker 3: Here not off till after ten. Yeah, I'm with you,
Speaker 3: And I always made.
Speaker 4: It a point once it was over with and I
Speaker 4: got home to lay down and take a nap for
Speaker 4: a couple of hours. That really, that really energized me
Speaker 4: to do that.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you said that, because I I'm not
Speaker 2: a napper. I have a tough time falling asleep in general,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure I won't now that I'm going to
Speaker 2: be getting up so early, which will be good. It'll
Speaker 2: just be natural that I need to just lay down
Speaker 2: and go to sleep or I'm going to fall over.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to naps, like I think there's
Speaker 2: been studies that show. You know, you got to find
Speaker 2: a sweet spot as far as the time of your nap,
Speaker 2: meaning not during what time of the day, but like
Speaker 2: how long you sleep, and everybody's is probably different to
Speaker 2: where like if I was to take a nap and
Speaker 2: I slept for like, you know, three and a half
Speaker 2: four hours, I would wake up probably grumpy. I would
Speaker 2: probably look around, like what planet am I on? What happened?
Speaker 2: How did I fall asleep for that long? And you know,
Speaker 2: I usually I've never felt better after a nap, which
Speaker 2: has always kept me from wanting to take them. But
Speaker 2: like it'll probably be pretty pretty routine to where I
Speaker 2: can get just enough shut eye to where I've energized
Speaker 2: myself to finish the day. And that way, when I
Speaker 2: do have you know, like dinner in the evening with
Speaker 2: the family at six o'clock, I'm not falling over. So
Speaker 2: there'll be some adjustments on my end. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: with you, Rick, I think just the in everybody's lifestyle
Speaker 2: is different. Everybody's you know, it's different. But for me,
Speaker 2: it's never really at any point in my adult life
Speaker 2: for sure that I would be like an early bedtime.
Speaker 3: Guy, right exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean when I went from when I went from
Speaker 2: mid days to two mornings. I remember thinking, okay, well,
Speaker 2: you know, now I do have to get up earlier
Speaker 2: than I was when my show started at noon. But
Speaker 2: I really never adjusted my like I've never at any
Speaker 2: point adjusted my sleep schedule as far as when I
Speaker 2: go to bed. Now, clearly I got less sleep when
Speaker 2: I was on in the mornings, but I was able
Speaker 2: to adjust and I was fine. But now, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna it's gonna work itself out regardless of what
Speaker 2: I want to do. If I still try to, you know,
Speaker 2: go to bed at midnight, but I'm getting up at three,
Speaker 2: there'll be no decision about how late you're staying up.
Speaker 2: I'm going to pass out. That's that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: And I filled in for about three or four days
Speaker 2: during the holiday season, which was when really whenever I
Speaker 2: I guess, I was without knowing, and I was I
Speaker 2: guess on a trial run around that time, and it
Speaker 2: was fun. I really enjoyed it. But I didn't make
Speaker 2: any big adjustments because it wasn't at that point. It
Speaker 2: was just you know, one off, two off thing. It
Speaker 2: wasn't like it was some big change, but Man, I
Speaker 2: remember thinking like, oh, this isn't bad. It's like two o'clock.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel fine, Like I wouldn't even if
Speaker 2: I didn't. You know, you could convince me I didn't
Speaker 2: even get up at three o'clock or three thirty or
Speaker 2: whatever it was. But man, once I got to like
Speaker 2: six thirty seven o'clock, I was a zombie. Like I'm
Speaker 2: just I'm just sitting in It's almost like I was
Speaker 2: just so mentally got there that I couldn't fall asleep.
Speaker 2: I was just truly checked out in zombie land. So
Speaker 2: I'll try on my end to make some adjustments to
Speaker 2: make it easier, but some of these things are just
Speaker 2: going to work themselves out, because you know, your body
Speaker 2: can't run on such little sleep.
Speaker 4: So well, when I was in top forty radio back
Speaker 4: in the seventies and eighties, I worked at a couple
Speaker 4: of stations where I did the all night show, and
Speaker 4: that was that was a shift I never got used to.
Speaker 3: How long did you do that?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I did the all night show at one station.
Speaker 2: I could pick your brain on this forever, just because
Speaker 2: that's such a different world now, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did the all light show at one station
Speaker 4: for about two years, and that was like getting in
Speaker 4: in the station like about.
Speaker 3: Eleven o'clock at night. Oh man, I had to.
Speaker 4: Do production before I actually went on the air, got
Speaker 4: off the air at six, and I was just too
Speaker 4: wild up to just go home and go to bed.
Speaker 4: So I'd go home and maybe turn the TV on
Speaker 4: and watch the early TV news shows for an hour.
Speaker 3: Or so, kind of decompressed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I'd finally get to bed and I'd
Speaker 4: sleep till maybe two or three in the afternoon. But
Speaker 4: the thing about the all night show for me was
Speaker 4: I always still felt tired no matter whether I.
Speaker 3: Got it was a constant. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I could get eight ten hours of sleep sleeping during
Speaker 4: the day, and I'd get up and I'd still be tired.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that to me tells me that I'm sure
Speaker 2: everybody's different. But like I think if I was doing
Speaker 2: a third shift kind of situation like that, like I
Speaker 2: don't know if you ever adjust to word. It just
Speaker 2: seems like you're always at any moment you feel like
Speaker 2: you're tired of you could just lay out and go
Speaker 2: to sleep, and that's that's not a great feeling. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't think to have, you know, to have NonStop But yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a that was a much different time.
Speaker 3: And I I mean, I.
Speaker 2: You know, I obviously have not worked in broadcasting in
Speaker 2: radio whenever those kind of shows existed in that format
Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties. But you know, I'm still
Speaker 2: a nerd for it in a way, like I read
Speaker 2: about it. I you know, I'm I'm a nerd for it.
Speaker 2: So I h I forgot that that was even kind
Speaker 2: of a thing back in that day. Now when it
Speaker 2: comes to I think what you said is is is
Speaker 2: what I experienced whenever I was on in the mornings
Speaker 2: from seven to ten. You know, sometimes I would have
Speaker 2: a night where I didn't get much sleep, and I knew, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, let's go get a let's go get a
Speaker 2: good show in as best we can, and then you know,
Speaker 2: just know, I've got a little bit of time where
Speaker 2: I can go home and get a few hours sleep.
Speaker 2: But once you just get done probably with a lot
Speaker 2: what I guess it depends on kind of what you
Speaker 2: do for work. But certainly when you're in radio, you're on,
Speaker 2: like you always have to be on. Therefore it's not
Speaker 2: it's not routine to just call it a day at
Speaker 2: you know, nine am, and then go to bed like it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's why it would try take me a little while,
Speaker 2: so again it'll be an adjustment, but really really looking
Speaker 2: forward to it, all right. So coming up here on
Speaker 2: the other side, we'll talk about the breakdown as far
Speaker 2: as how the ACC is going to distribute the TV
Speaker 2: revenue with the new rev sharing model, which I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll believe it when I see it, but it does
Speaker 2: seem I feel like this could be something for the
Speaker 2: first time in a long time, maybe the first time ever,
Speaker 2: where the ACC is a trendsetter and they are in fact,
Speaker 2: you know, doing something that other conferences will will also
Speaker 2: want to do. So we can get into that. And
Speaker 2: it seems as if just as there was momentum for
Speaker 2: Nick Saban after talking to Donald Trump to really, you know,
Speaker 2: be the leader of this Commission on College Sports, and
Speaker 2: you know, I think Saban would be fit for for
Speaker 2: the position more than most, but clearly he is somewhat biased.
Speaker 2: He's been at Alabama for a long time, and I
Speaker 2: think it would be unnatural to expect Nick Saban to
Speaker 2: not have some type of favoritism for Alabama and the
Speaker 2: SEC and that's not a care flaw, that's just I mean,
Speaker 2: it's human nature. So with all that said, now that
Speaker 2: there's been some push to have some other representation, Cody Campbell,
Speaker 2: the guy who's a billionaire now after selling his oil company,
Speaker 2: and he's the big booster for Texas Tech, you know,
Speaker 2: it sounds as if maybe Saban is saying, we don't
Speaker 2: need this Commission on College Sports because it will it
Speaker 2: will do what needs to be done, which is, you know,
Speaker 2: representation from you know, more than just the big ten
Speaker 2: in the SEC. I mean, I don't know who it
Speaker 2: would be, but someone to sort of oversee the Commission
Speaker 2: on College Sports as Trump labeled it, someone to do
Speaker 2: that that is absolutely neutral. They don't have a deep
Speaker 2: connection or affiliation with a specific school and a specific
Speaker 2: conference because I mean, again, a lot of times it's
Speaker 2: viewed as a criticism, a real flaw if you are
Speaker 2: you know, if you're not totally objective. But human nature
Speaker 2: makes it to where it's impossible for people to not
Speaker 2: let the human element get in the way one way
Speaker 2: or the other. Like some people will be so aware
Speaker 2: of like hey, I don't want to show favoritism towards
Speaker 2: this league, or this team because you know I have
Speaker 2: a connection. So then they'll mo to over to really
Speaker 2: make up for that. They'll end up doing something that
Speaker 2: you know is anti their affiliation more so because they're
Speaker 2: overthinking it. So again, it's hard to find people that
Speaker 2: are completely neutral objective to where there's no agendas. But
Speaker 2: that's what's needed here for the Commission on College Sports
Speaker 2: and the college Football playoff, so we can get into
Speaker 2: that and a lot more. Keep it locked right here
Speaker 2: on Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 2: two different texts have come in that are kind of
Speaker 2: the same question, and I don't have an answer for you, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: But obviously the situation with Ali Khalifa being denied a
Speaker 2: fourth year of eligibility. You know, the more that that
Speaker 2: story was out there, the more national reaction you got.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to mislead you, is if it's
Speaker 2: become one of the biggest talking points in college basketball.
Speaker 2: That's not the case, but it does seem as if
Speaker 2: nobody can make any sense of the nc doubleak the
Speaker 2: making a legitimate case that he's not worthy of playing
Speaker 2: a fourth year given his situation, and that probably shouldn't
Speaker 2: change my you know, my outlook on it. And what
Speaker 2: I mean by that is I don't want to give
Speaker 2: my hopes up. I hope that the NCAA does the
Speaker 2: right thing and they realize that of all people to
Speaker 2: to to really stick it to and not give them
Speaker 2: the opportunity to have a fourth year. Like, what about
Speaker 2: his situation in any way makes him somebody that they would,
Speaker 2: you know, ruin his career. I mean, that's that's essentially
Speaker 2: what they would do. So the we'll see. I mean again,
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful because of common sense, But the NCAA has
Speaker 2: done a lot of things, made a lot of bad
Speaker 2: decisions over the years that nobody can make any sense
Speaker 2: out of. Therefore, you know, maybe they do in fact
Speaker 2: lack common sense from top to bottom. But here's what's just,
Speaker 2: you know, you say it out loud, and it's like
Speaker 2: what his five year clock started in a year that
Speaker 2: nobody had held against them when it comes to eligibility.
Speaker 2: Nobody guys who played thirty plus games that year in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty twenty one, that didn't count. But Allie's
Speaker 2: clock starts in that year when he didn't play a second. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, what has me feel and confident is just
Speaker 2: knowing how insanely stupid the decision was initially, and surely
Speaker 2: they'll look at it and realize that they made a
Speaker 2: mistake and that they you know, they need to make
Speaker 2: make it right.
Speaker 3: So that's the hope, and I do leave.
Speaker 2: You know again, I'm just just guessing like anybody else,
Speaker 2: but I think that it'll it'll get worked out. I
Speaker 2: guess more than anything, you worry about the timing because
Speaker 2: you just never know when the NCAA is going to
Speaker 2: do anything right. They're unpredictable in a variety of ways.
Speaker 2: But more than anything timing. I mean, it's almost criminal
Speaker 2: as to what Louisville Basketball had to go through during
Speaker 2: the process of their last NCUBA investigation. And I don't
Speaker 2: mean like because they were, but the time make no sense.
Speaker 2: It is you as an organization, as an entity, have
Speaker 2: no justification in any way for it to be a
Speaker 2: what I mean four or five How long did it
Speaker 2: take to get closure on the NCAA case with Brian Bowen.
Speaker 2: I mean, we had a coach come here and coach
Speaker 2: for three and a half years, and it was ongoing
Speaker 2: when he arrived, and when he left there was still
Speaker 2: no closure. I mean, that might have been one of
Speaker 2: the last interviews I had with coach mac at the
Speaker 2: ACC basketball media day going into I guess it was
Speaker 2: his final season, you know, And I I asked a
Speaker 2: question that now that I think about it, it really was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a good question, but I said, did you
Speaker 2: think there was any point did you think at any
Speaker 2: point that you'd be this far into your time at
Speaker 2: Louisville and there still would be no closure and it
Speaker 2: would be just hovering over the program, the uncertainty about
Speaker 2: a punishment, And he just I think you might have
Speaker 2: answered before I finished the question. He said, how could
Speaker 2: you who would like who would think that it would
Speaker 2: take that long? So you never know when they're going
Speaker 2: to do anything, and they're not really held to any
Speaker 2: type of standard as far as what they have to
Speaker 2: do as far as a timeline. So that's I guess
Speaker 2: my worry. But as of now, he is still cleared
Speaker 2: to do everything but playing games. So I would hope
Speaker 2: it's sooner that they get a resolution and that he's
Speaker 2: able to play. But if it does, you know, somehow
Speaker 2: linger into when the fall semester starts, he'll still be
Speaker 2: able to practice and be a part of the team.
Speaker 2: But man, like, if you're Pat Kelsey, you know, not
Speaker 2: only do you want your guy, but you want you know,
Speaker 2: you don't want to be I don't want to say
Speaker 2: cater things around Khalifa because I don't know if you
Speaker 2: would do that. But like he's going to be a
Speaker 2: very very interesting piece for this team, just given the
Speaker 2: rare player that he is. He's seven foot tall, has
Speaker 2: lost a ton of weight, which has got to help
Speaker 2: him in every way. But like he's a phenomenal passer
Speaker 2: and he's a good shooter too, by the way, Like
Speaker 2: he's seven foot and even though he's lost weight, he's
Speaker 2: got a decent frame on him. Yet where he really
Speaker 2: stands out is passing and shooting, not what you typically
Speaker 2: see from you know, seven footers, but that's who he
Speaker 2: is as a player.
Speaker 3: So hopefully they get it figured out.
Speaker 2: But again, the timing is just it's it's anybody's anybody's guests.
Speaker 2: Sticking with n SAA eligibility, there was a big setback
Speaker 2: for I believe what is around about one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty college basketball players that were clearly out of eligibility,
Speaker 2: no justification as to why they should still be able
Speaker 2: to play, other than just saying we're hopeful that the
Speaker 2: NAA decides to give everyone five years instead of four, So.
Speaker 3: You know, it became.
Speaker 2: An embarrassing thing in my opinion. I guess there's no
Speaker 2: harm in trying, but like there's an element to it
Speaker 2: that I think you all understand what I mean when
Speaker 2: I say this, Like it's kind of sad that, like
Speaker 2: it's over. Your college careers has come to an end.
Speaker 2: You've played four some five years. Why are you entering
Speaker 2: the portal it's over? Like there's an element that's like sad,
Speaker 2: as if they're not ready to start life or they're
Speaker 2: just like in denial that their career has come to
Speaker 2: an end, and it would be a pretty tough thing
Speaker 2: to deal with, especially if you don't know what comes
Speaker 2: next and you don't have any opportunities to play pro ball.
Speaker 2: But man, when I just kept seeing there was like
Speaker 2: a two or three day window where every time you'd
Speaker 2: refresh social media, there'd be a report of another player
Speaker 2: entering the portal. Only did then everybody realize, how in
Speaker 2: the world would this guy have any more eligibility. It's
Speaker 2: like the guy who you know right after high school,
Speaker 2: he's still shown up to every high school football game.
Speaker 2: We're in his letterman jacket. I mean, if you're there
Speaker 2: to the team, then that's good man. You got pride
Speaker 2: in the program you played for. But like there's a
Speaker 2: line right, like are you doing that or are you
Speaker 2: still trying to, you know, not accept the fact that
Speaker 2: your time has come to an end. So with all
Speaker 2: that said, it would almost be silly to not at
Speaker 2: least put I mean, what's the harm other than maybe
Speaker 2: some embarrassment. But if it did work out and you
Speaker 2: got a chance to go play college basketball, if you
Speaker 2: were a good player, you probably had a chance to
Speaker 2: make a lot of money. So I guess there's really
Speaker 2: no harm in that. But anyways, all these guys who
Speaker 2: put in for more eligibility, most of them without really
Speaker 2: any justification. There was a judge that recently denied. If
Speaker 2: you remember Ante Brazovic, that's the guy who played for
Speaker 2: Pad at Charleston, and then when Chris Mack took over
Speaker 2: at Charleston, he decided to stay. He was the player
Speaker 2: of the year in that conference in Pat's last season
Speaker 2: at Charleston, really good player last year. His argument was
Speaker 2: that he played one year of Division two basketball and
Speaker 2: then he played three years of Division one basketball. His
Speaker 2: argument was that the Division two year should not be
Speaker 2: held against him, which I guess, good try. But like
Speaker 2: the reason that the JUCO loophole was created is that
Speaker 2: the Vanderbolt quarterback Diego Pavia his argument and it does
Speaker 2: make sense. I don't know if it's I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's right, but like, he has a point. How
Speaker 2: could the NC DOUBLEA claim you've used four years of
Speaker 2: eligibility when you've only been under their umbrella at an
Speaker 2: NCAA institution for four years Because the junior college level
Speaker 2: is a different entity than the NC DOUBLEA. So that
Speaker 2: was a good argument and it worked, but that's the
Speaker 2: NCAA Division two level is still still NABA. So the
Speaker 2: judge denied him, which it sounds as if like the
Speaker 2: others now don't have because here's the thing. If he
Speaker 2: would have won, that would have led to the NCUABLEA
Speaker 2: having to give a blanket waiver to everybody pretty much.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happened with Diego Pavia when he won.
Speaker 2: It led to every JUCO player knowing, hey, we can
Speaker 2: hire a lawyer and will we'll get this figured out
Speaker 2: to where we can take advantage.
Speaker 3: Of this too.
Speaker 2: So the NAA said, look, for the time being while
Speaker 2: we figure this out what we're gonna do. Everyone whose
Speaker 2: eligibility was running out this year, and one of those
Speaker 2: years was JUCO, you now get an extra year, which
Speaker 2: that's how Jamon Hadley is able to come back and
Speaker 2: play for Louisville next year. That's how Cason Pryor technically
Speaker 2: has two years of eligibility left because he got a
Speaker 2: medical red shirt last year and he has this extra
Speaker 2: year from JUCO. Now I guess maybe he doesn't because
Speaker 2: as we now learned that the five the five year
Speaker 2: clock you get five years to play four seasons, is
Speaker 2: technically still in place because they're enforcing it with Khalifa. So,
Speaker 2: you know, not a surprise, but all of those athletes
Speaker 2: who are just trying to hold out hope that a
Speaker 2: lawsuit would win and they could just take advantage of it,
Speaker 2: it sounds as if that's not that's not going to happen,
Speaker 2: which you know, I.
Speaker 3: Think that's the right decision, I really do.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see, the ACC did something that I
Speaker 2: think was a good decision.
Speaker 3: One of the only things.
Speaker 2: You could realistically do that would end the fighting between
Speaker 2: the conference and two schools, Clemson and Florida State, and
Speaker 2: I think it's it's innovative. I think you'll see other
Speaker 2: conferences down the line maybe looking at doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: And that is basically getting to eat a little more
Speaker 2: of what you kill, if you know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 2: Because for so long, these these grant of rights deals
Speaker 2: have been an equal share for everybody. And I think
Speaker 2: what's happened here is that the ACC realized, all right,
Speaker 2: we realize we actually do have a good Like here's
Speaker 2: the thing. The ACC had Florida State and Clemson by
Speaker 2: you know what, they signed an agreed to what was
Speaker 2: put in place. Now, had they realized that, like no
Speaker 2: other conference is going to sign something that is in
Speaker 2: place until twenty thirty six, like a twenty year thing,
Speaker 2: like that's just insane. In general, Swafford is an ACC
Speaker 2: legend by those that you know of the ACC. But
Speaker 2: that guy's the one who actually put the league in
Speaker 2: such a tough spot because who would lock into twenty
Speaker 2: years no adjustments whenever you realize clearly things are going
Speaker 2: to evolve a big amount of money in you know,
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen is gonna not be as much money in
Speaker 2: two thousand and thirty six, So any other deal that
Speaker 2: has been signed in the modern era as far as
Speaker 2: Grant rites with these conferences, it's been like seven years max.
Speaker 2: This one was twenty years max. And that's what they
Speaker 2: needed to do in order, I guess, to get They
Speaker 2: were so desperate to catch up with the SEC with
Speaker 2: the network, meaning you have your own station within the
Speaker 2: ESPN family of networks that is dedicated to your conference,
Speaker 2: and they just they sped up more so than they
Speaker 2: needed to in my opinion, and it just I mean,
Speaker 2: because the more you look at it, like who would
Speaker 2: agree to this, well, the desperation to keep up with
Speaker 2: the Joneses and you know, have the network like the
Speaker 2: SEC did. But you know, you're not the SEC. And
Speaker 2: we've since we probably knew that then and now we've
Speaker 2: certainly learned it. But when it comes to value, you're
Speaker 2: just not that. So here's what they're doing. Under the
Speaker 2: new revenue sharing model the ACC is going to they're
Speaker 2: going to distribute forty percent of the TV deal money
Speaker 2: evenly among the league's fourteen non expansion members. So keep
Speaker 2: in mind that means smu cal and Stanford they're not
Speaker 2: getting this yet.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't know what their situation is. I mean, SMU
Speaker 2: joined the league like, oh yeah, we don't need a
Speaker 2: d money. We got our own money. We're in Texas,
Speaker 2: We've got billionaires that'll support us to where we can
Speaker 2: be just fine not accepting any annual check our first
Speaker 2: year for revenue share, which again, that's how people keep
Speaker 2: the lights on at these schools in most places, SMU's
Speaker 2: got funding to where they don't need the help from
Speaker 2: I mean, not to take it in a different direction,
Speaker 2: SMU is a very rare, very rare college athletics program
Speaker 2: just because of they actually have a big alumni base
Speaker 2: and they've had enough success and they just got endless
Speaker 2: amounts of money, it seems so Anyways, I don't know
Speaker 2: what their arrangement is, but they're not included in this.
Speaker 2: So again, forty percent of the TV money going to everybody.
Speaker 2: The other sixty percent will be split up based on
Speaker 2: ratings from basketball and football games, with football, as you
Speaker 2: could expect football football viewership carrying more weight in the
Speaker 2: overall calculation than anything else. And I think that makes
Speaker 2: total sense, and I understand it could set a little
Speaker 2: hypocritical for me, as I've mentioned, when it comes to
Speaker 2: TV viewership being a factor in how you get into
Speaker 2: the playoff. That's insane and I don't think they'll end
Speaker 2: up doing that, but like just the fact that that's
Speaker 2: being discussed at these college football playoff meetings is a
Speaker 2: real scary thing because what it tells me is that
Speaker 2: they're getting closer to stepping over the line to where
Speaker 2: they're letting you know very much directly or indirectly. It's
Speaker 2: more of a popularity contest than it's ever been and
Speaker 2: it's not about winning and losing, which to me, that
Speaker 2: like why I play sports if that's the case, Like,
Speaker 2: go watch professional wrestling, no offense to that, you know,
Speaker 2: that world of pro wrestling, but like that's entertainment, but
Speaker 2: you know, it is like people decide who's going to
Speaker 2: be over, who's going to be mister popular and win.
Speaker 2: So it's just to me, I'm like, why would anybody
Speaker 2: even bring that up?
Speaker 3: But this is different.
Speaker 2: This is where you are truly going to be compensated
Speaker 2: based off of what you bring in, what your value
Speaker 2: actually is. And Clemson in Florida state understandably, so you
Speaker 2: know they're not able to and it's thrown fault. They
Speaker 2: signed an agreement the agency didn't have to do this,
Speaker 2: but I'm glad they did because it to me, makes
Speaker 2: it to where you can now you know, the lawsuits
Speaker 2: have been dropped, and now you know you can at
Speaker 2: least act like you like each other, even though we
Speaker 2: know it's not the case. Whenever you're publicly in a
Speaker 2: lawsuit for two years, like that's just that's a mess
Speaker 2: that you don't want in any way. So this was
Speaker 2: the best I guess, meeting in the middle to in
Speaker 2: the lawsuits and also understand, yeah, despite you agreeing to it,
Speaker 2: we understand that you know you're getting laughed like and
Speaker 2: this may sound petty to some, but I believe absolutely
Speaker 2: this is a factor.
Speaker 3: If you are.
Speaker 2: Clemson and you've got national chance being ships in the
Speaker 2: last decade. In South Carolina, what do they have to
Speaker 2: show for their football program in the last ten years.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was cool when Spurrier was there because
Speaker 2: he Spurrier. They had Jadavian Clowney, but like, you know,
Speaker 2: they're not poverty program, but like they're not, like they've
Speaker 2: not been Clemson, and yet South Carolina is making Bukou
Speaker 2: money more than Clemson and will moving forward. But Clemson's
Speaker 2: locked into twenty thirty six, Like that ain't cool with
Speaker 2: you know, Clemson, I'm sure, and they don't. You know,
Speaker 2: they don't like being looked at as somebody who's falling
Speaker 2: behind financially. Let's look at this is a different example,
Speaker 2: but I think it's valid. Let's look at Florida State
Speaker 2: in Miami. They look at Central Florida not only like
Speaker 2: little brother, but like you know, the pet in the state.
Speaker 2: Like they don't they don't respect any tradition or history
Speaker 2: from Central Florida because Central Florida didn't really even exist
Speaker 2: as a football program when those programs Miami and Florida
Speaker 2: State were winning national championships. Well, because the ACC's locked
Speaker 2: in till twenty thirty six, Central Florida's now in the
Speaker 2: Big twelve, they're gonna re up twice before the ACC would.
Speaker 2: And there's no scenario Florida State, specifically in Miami, even
Speaker 2: would sit back and not raise absolute hell knowing that
Speaker 2: Central Florida is making more money than them. So you know, now,
Speaker 2: if you do bring in big viewership in football specifically
Speaker 2: and then the others basketball, I mean, that will give
Speaker 2: you a bigger piece of the pie. So your success
Speaker 2: will bring more viewership. Therefore you will get more, you'll
Speaker 2: get a will be it.
Speaker 3: You will be.
Speaker 2: Incentivized to pull the weight of this conference. And that's
Speaker 2: the way again, it's the way.
Speaker 3: It should be. So all right, let's get a quick
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll have a quick segment here before we
Speaker 2: get to the five o'clock hour. And I know it
Speaker 2: bothers a lot of people just to see college athletes
Speaker 2: still playing despite being you know, a lot older than
Speaker 2: your typical college athlete. And although I do understand because
Speaker 2: it's just different and it's weird, and there is a
Speaker 2: difference in being, you know, like a grown ass man
Speaker 2: that's twenty seven playing against a nineteen year old sophomore.
Speaker 2: So I understand it from that aspect, but before the portal,
Speaker 2: before nil, there is never an age requirement for eligibility. Never,
Speaker 2: And I don't know people realize that or no. But
Speaker 2: this story is certainly a story that you just you know,
Speaker 2: are not used to seeing. Although I also wonder maybe
Speaker 2: these things have happened, but there just wasn't so much sensitivity.
Speaker 2: And you know, coverage of players who started their college
Speaker 2: career later in life than eighteen years old. But Mira
Speaker 2: Coasta Junior College, they have a player by the name
Speaker 2: of Ramel Bethia and he yesterday announced that he's committed
Speaker 2: to Green Bay. That's a smaller D one school. It's
Speaker 2: actually where Doug Gottlieb coached, and he had a less
Speaker 2: than successful debut season. I think he won like four games.
Speaker 2: But this young man is actually not a young man.
Speaker 2: He's a grown ass man. He graduated high school in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, did not play basketball, and he enrolled in
Speaker 2: the Navy right after high school. So during the time
Speaker 2: of his service, he grew from six' three to six'
Speaker 2: nine and he reached a seven foot. Four wingspan his
Speaker 2: friends In the navy quickly urged him to pursue a
Speaker 2: basketball career and while finishing In the navy As A
Speaker 2: petty officer of The, third class he participated in the
Speaker 2: twenty Twenty Two Armed Forces. Basketball championship it was the
Speaker 2: first time he played, BASKETBALL competitively i think since like.
Speaker 2: Middle school but he received attention From local california, junior
Speaker 2: colleges and, you know he decided To post navy GO play,
Speaker 2: juco basketball and he averaged a double double and he
Speaker 2: quickly started GETTING some d. One interest and now he's
Speaker 2: Going To green bay and he's thirty one. YEARS old
Speaker 2: i mean he's not, a FRESHMAN but i mean he's
Speaker 2: a thirty one year old college basketball PLAYER with i,
Speaker 2: GUESS seemingly, i mean how many years villigibility would he
Speaker 2: have right when it comes to when it comes TO the,
Speaker 2: JUCO thing i mean, RIGHT now i GUESS they're sti
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what they're going to do, long
Speaker 2: term but, like technically given what they recently did as
Speaker 2: far as that, blanket waiver he might be a guy
Speaker 2: that is actually gonna get four fresh years because he
Speaker 2: only PLAYED in juco for. Two seasons, so again that'll
Speaker 2: bother a lot. Of People but i'll Remind you age
Speaker 2: has never been a a requirement or it's never been
Speaker 2: any part of the criteria as far. As eligibility but
Speaker 2: there is a great rundown Here, on twitter A great
Speaker 2: twitter thread that just gives you there's a lot.
Speaker 3: There are there's a thirty YEAR old d two player
Speaker 3: that's that's.
Speaker 2: In the midst of his of his. COLLEGE career, I
Speaker 2: mean i'm trying, to, yeah this this would. Have it
Speaker 2: i'm trying to see, the oldest like the oldest player
Speaker 2: in COLLEGE because I would i would think thirty one would.
Speaker 3: Be it but, you Know maybe. I'M wrong, i mean,
Speaker 3: AND look I mean.
Speaker 2: I think, the service, you know if you were In,
Speaker 2: the navy and that's what that's what held you up
Speaker 2: from starting to pursue basketball. In, COLLEGE like i think
Speaker 2: it's a little different, than just, you know somebody that's
Speaker 2: found a way to just loophole after loophole continue to be,
Speaker 2: eligible somehow. Some way, And yes i'm Thinking Of Chad,
Speaker 2: baker mazarro who will be in his seventh year of,
Speaker 2: college eligibility which is. Just crazy it. Really is, all
Speaker 2: right you're crazy if you don't stick around for the
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