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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. As the congressional farce known as the Jeffrey

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Epstein Investigation continues to rumble on, we're now hearing that

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two more people are going to be called in to

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sit down and give testimony, and those two people are

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Howard Lutnik and Katherine Rumler. So in this episode, we

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have two articles, both by the New York Post talking

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about these new developments. First article, like I said, New

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York Post, and the headline, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to

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testify on association with Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored

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by Josh Christiansen. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik said Tuesday that

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he'll testify about his ties to the deceased sex offender

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Jeffrey Epstein as a House Oversight committee seeks interviews with

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seven other associates. Look, that's great, but it's nothing but

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a circus. And at this point I'm convinced that the

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whole entire thing is nothing but cover for the administration.

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You notice how they come out and they champion what

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the committee is doing. Oh yeah, the committee, they're taking

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a look at all of this. Why do we need

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the discharge petition. Well, this is why, because this whole

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entire thing has been nothing but an absolute joke since

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the start. Everybody wants to have their gotcha moment, their

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viral moment on TV. And I don't know about you, folks,

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but I'm pretty tired of being ruled by these wanna

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be influencers. Stay off the Internet for a little while

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and do your job. I look forward to appearing before

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the committee. But Nick first told Axios without immediately sharing

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a date for the testimony, I've done nothing wrong and

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I want to set the record straight. Well okay, good,

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but you've already lied. So why did you lie? That's

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the real question. And again, look, I'm not saying Lutnik

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was out here diddling kids with Epstein. I don't know.

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We didn't see that evidence yet. Does that evidence exist, maybe,

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but I haven't seen it. What I am telling you, though,

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is that he is a liar, and as the Commerce Secretary,

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to get up there and brazenly lie to the American

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people and do it in such a brazen and nonchalant

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manner is just unacceptable. So Howard Lutnik has to go

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Oversight Chairman James Comer also said in a statement on

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Tuesday that the cabinet official had proactively agreed to do

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so after Democrats on the panel pushed for Lutnik to

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be subpoenaed for questioning Why wouldn't the Republicans want to

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do that? Why wouldn't the Republicans on the committee want

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to hear from Howard Lutnick? What are they afraid of?

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Don't you think if you were on the committee you

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would be over cautious as to who you're not calling in,

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Like optics matter, right? And is it too difficult for

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these politicians to do what's best for all of us

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and to just stow their bullshit for a little while.

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Can't they just do that? Obviously not. I commend his

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demonstrated commitment to transparency and appreciate his willingness with the committee.

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I look forward to his testimony. Comer added, Yeah, you guys,

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can you know, hang out afterwards and go play golf

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or whatever it is you knuckleheads do? And how many

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of these Republicans aren't going to show up for this one?

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Probably a few of them. They couldn't be bothered to

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show up for Wexner. You know, you can't really score

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any political points there, so they decided, what the hell,

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we're not even gonna bother going. But then they got

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in their little camper van to go visit the Clinton's right, yeah,

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because it wasn't all about optics or anything. And then

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when we get to Chappaquah, you have the Democrats running

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out every fifteen minutes giving an update about this that

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the other thing, and what we're left with is just

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competing narratives. And then of course everybody ran with whatever

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their confirmation bias told them to run with, and then

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once again, the survivors, they're just put in the background.

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The Oversight Committee later released letters requesting transcribed interviews with

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Goldman Sachs top lawyer, Catherine Rumler, Microsoft founder Bill Gates,

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and ex Bill Clinton aide Doug Band hold on, wait

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a minute, transcribed interviews with Goldman Sachs top lawyer. So

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I'm hoping that means actual interviews and not just like

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a letter. I think it means an actual interview like

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we've been seeing. But we'll have to get some clarification.

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You never know when you're dealing with our Congress. Voluntary

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testimony was also sought from Apollo Global Management co founder

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Leon Black, billionaire philanthropist Ted Waite, and Epstein assistants Leslie

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Groff and Sarah Kellen assistants co conspirators, And why aren't

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they being subpoena You're gonna subpoena everybody else but not

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Leslie Groff and Sarah Kellen. Tell me you're not serious.

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Without telling me you're not serious, The Department of Justice

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has released millions of pages of documents from its investigation

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into Epstein and is convicted. Madam Klaine Maxwell, you mean

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co conspirator, general, all around scusbag, bipedal serpent, that's what

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you mean. Right. Since the passage of the Epstein File

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Transparency Act last November, many of the requested interviewees have

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since face tough questions because of their chumminess with the

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late Pedal file in email exchanges. Oh yeah, that's all

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it is. For Leon Black, just a couple of email exchanges.

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And Sarah Kellen and Leslie Groff nothing to see here,

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but sure, Anna Pauline a Luna, let's call Haley Robson

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a human trafficker. The fuck is wrong with you people?

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I mean honestly. Lutnick agreed to the voluntary interview after

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An undated photo of him wandering around alongside Epstein on

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the Financier Pedophiles Private Island surfaced in official Justice Department

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disclosures before being removed from the DJ website. CNN first

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reported in an early February hearing before a Congress The

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Commerce Secretary also admitted to lunch with Epstein on Little

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Saint James Island that lasted roughly an hour in twenty twelve.

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An hour for lunch, Okay, I guess what did you

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guys eat? I mean an hour? How long does it

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take to get from the boat, How long does it

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take to get back? How long did lunch take? You

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guys didn't talk. You just ate everybody's face down in

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the bowl like it's a trough. I mean, you're all pigs,

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so it wouldn't shock me. But we all know that's

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not what went down. And Howard Nutlick knows that's not

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what went down, but he's gonna shamelessly lie, that's my prediction,

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just like the rest of these people, because they know

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that Donald Trump is going to pardon them when all

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this said and done, so they have nothing to worry about.

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What you think Pam Bondy is going to be that

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kind of abrasive, disgusting person. If she knew there was

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something on the line, of course, not like internet tough guys.

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She knew she can get away with it, so she

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did it. We left with all my children, with my

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nannies and my wife altogether. We were on a family vacation.

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We were not a part, lut Nick told a Senate subcommittee.

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I don't recall what we did, or I don't recall

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why we did it. Excuse me, but we did. What

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a weird ass statement to make. We left with all

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my kids? What are you gonna leave one there? Hey, Jeffrey,

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why don't you babysit little Johnny? Like? What the blazes

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does that even mean? And you left with all your nannies,

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I'd hope. So, considering what we know about Epstein, Maxwell,

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the Dubins, mister Rizzo, and the young Swedish nanny Huh,

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Lutnick copped in ahering to sharing drinks with the then

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registered sex offender the year before in May, which was

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memorialized in emails released as part of the djys Epstein Library.

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Republicans and Democrats on the oversight panel had been calling

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for Lutnik to be issued a subpoena to testify amid

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the deposition of former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary

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of State Hillary Clinton. Oh, maybe one or two like

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Nancy Mace. But besides that, stop it. Let's not act

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like James Comer's been out here ringing the bill. Nancy

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Mace in particular, press Hillary Clinton in her deposition on

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another email revealing Lutnick had invited Epstein to campaign fundraiser

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in twenty fifteen during the ex First Lady's run for president.

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Everything we know about Jeffrey Epstein, do we really believe

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he didn't go to that fundraiser, didn't just walk right

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next door, didn't donate through whichever beard he donated through.

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I have hard time believing it. I'm sorry, but I do.

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And as far as Hillary Clinton goes, come on, I

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would trust a Taliban dentist in their diagnosis before I

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trusted Hillary Clinton to tell me what time it was.

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You know, I don't know if you know this or not,

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but Hillary Clinton not exactly a reliable narrator. The DOJ

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files also included FBI forms from twenty twenty and twenty

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twenty one alleging a suspicious financial relationship between the neighbors. Epstein,

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sixty six, was found dead on August tenth, twenty nineteen,

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in a Manhattan jail while awaiting trial on sex trafficking

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charges involving young girls. Federal investigators and medical examiners later

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ruled it a suicide. Yeah, debatable at best, especially with

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the information that we're going through now. Oh you thought

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you saw all of it with Michael Thomas's deposition, you

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haven't seen anything yet. I have depositions from everybody now,

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from the electrical engineer, Tovin Owell, the Captain, and Mark

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Epstein himself. And starting tomorrow morning, we're going to be

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diving into that Mark Epstein stuff because it is explosive.

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The former bear Stearns trader and money manager at for

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Victoria's Secret CEO Les Wexner had enjoyed relationships with famous academics,

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influential politicians, and even British Royalty before his death. Not

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just British Royalty. We had Norwegian Royalty, we had the

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House of Sad and I'm sure there's plenty of other

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royals that this dude was mingling with that I'm not

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even remembering right now. But it wasn't just the English

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royal family. That's the most notorious, obviously because of the

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Joe exotic of the Windsor family and his bullshit. But

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Epstein was locked in when it comes to that kind

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of circle. Some of those associations continued even after he

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pleaded guilty to soliciting a minor for prostitution in two

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thousand and eight, served thirteen months in a Florida state prison,

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and had to register as a sex offender. President Trump

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supported Lutnik on Friday, telling reporters Howard would go in

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and do whatever he has to say. He is a

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very innocent guy, doing a good job. How could you

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say he's innocent. You don't know what happened. I thought

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you weren't around. But one thing you can tell us

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is that Howard Lutnick is innocent. Perfect. So we have

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Bill Clinton and Donald Trump exonerating people. I'm going to

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sleep great tonight. The picture, admissions and records directly contradicted

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the cabinet officials remarks on Pod fourth one last October,

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when Lutnick said he was never in the room with

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Epstein socially for business or even philanthropy. The sixty four

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year old CEO of Keunter Fitzgerald recounted to the Post

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Miranda Divine, how he and his wife were given a

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tour of his then neighbors infamous E seventy first Street

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townhouse in two thousand and five, including its notorious massage room.

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They get a massage. That's what his mo was, Get

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a massage. Get a massage. And what happened to that

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massage room I assume was on video? The Commerce Secretary said,

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this guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. He blackmailed people.

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That's how he had money. Well, that's odd. Didn't Donald

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Trump in the administration tell us that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't

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blackmailing anybody. That's not what he did. That's not who

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he was. I guess Lutnik has other information that they

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should ask him about. But after the visit, Lutnik claimed

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he never set foot in any of Epstein's residences again

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and never socialized with the financier. In the six or

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eight steps it takes to get from his house to

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my house, my wife and I decided that we will

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never be in the room with that disgusting person again.

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He said, So, look, Howard Lutnik, it's time right, It's

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time for him to answer questions. It's time for Congress

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to do the right thing and ask them the right questions,

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and it's time for him to set the record straight

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under oath. That way, we have everything on record. Right

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later on down the road, who knows what will happen,

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because I have a funny feeling that Howard Luttnik isn't

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exactly telling us the truth. So we'll see when this

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all gets scheduled and when Howard Lutnik ends up going

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to Congress to answer a few questions. All right, Moving

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on to the second article, this one also published by

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the California Post and the headline Golobin Sachs lawyer Kathy

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Rumler set to face Congress over Jeffrey Epstein ties. This

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article was authored by James Frainey Goldman. Sachs outgoing General

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Counsel Catherine Rumler was asked Tuesday to testify before the

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House oversde Committee about her ties to Jeffrey Epstein, escalating

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a Congressional probe into the late financier and sex offender's

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elite network. And this should be a no brainer as

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much as she was talked to by Jeffrey Epstein via

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email and the positions that she held when these conversations

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were being had. Yeah, she definitely needs to be put

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on the record, and we need to know what's what.

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House over Psyde Committee chairman James Comer wrote in a

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letter reviewed by the Post that the panel believes Rumbler

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holds key insights for its wide ranging Epstein investigation. Wide

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ranging is it okay? Sure? You mean the investigation that

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wouldn't go anywhere if it wasn't for the discharge petition.

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That's what you mean, right. She was set to appear

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before the Congressional grilling on April twenty first. It would

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come after high profile appearances from Bill and Hillary Clinton

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last week before the committee. The existence of the letter

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was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. Miss Rummler

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welcomes the opportunity to appear before the committee. At the time,

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she had interacted with Jeffrey Epstein. She was a practicing

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criminal defense attorney and shared a client with him. A

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rep for the top lawyer told the Post she's done

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nothing wrong and had no knowledge of any ongoing criminal

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activity on his part. A Goldman SAX spokesperson declined to comment. Rumler,

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a former Obama White House Council announced last month that

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she would step down from Goldman later this year, amid

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mounting revelations about her Epstein connections. What a liar, she

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knew what he was. She didn't care. Okay, that's what

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it comes down to. Like the rest of these people,

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she didn't care. She maintains the relationship was purely professional,

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sharing a client and occasionally advising him, but that she

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regrets knowing the financier who died in jail in twenty

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nineteen while a waiting sex trafficking trial. Rumbler's name surfaced

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in reporting by the Journal as one of Epstein's closest

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post conviction regulars, despite his two thousand and eight guilty

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plea to soliciting a minor for a prostitution. Hell of

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a guy that Jeffrey Epstein can't wait to go over

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at his house and hang out. The fuck is wrong

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with you people? Guy was diddling kids, diddling kids, and

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you want to go to his house. Maybe all of

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your hard drive should be checked two. Epstein listed her

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as a backup executor in a twenty nineteen draft of

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a will, called her the night of his arrest and

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exchanged chatty emails laced with luxury gifts tens of thousands

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of dollars in wine, handbags and more. Well, isn't that nice?

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Wine handbags? More? Who cares about the literally thousand girls

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with broken lives and chatter dreams? A handbag and some

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chicken noodle soup out of the deal. She dubbed the

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creep uncle Jeffrey and Sweedee, describing him as another older

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brother in one missive Rumler joined Goldman in twenty twenty

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after disclosing the connection to executives who said they conducted

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due diligence and were satisfied. Well, yeah, they were in

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bed with him too. Are you kidding me? What? Goldman

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Sachs is the paragon of virtue and they only hire

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good people. Financial sector evil CEO David Solomon stood by her,

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calling her an excellent lawyer amid a media firestorm that

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was sparked by a Justice Department document dump regarding the

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dead Pedalphile, but the continued drip of negative stories fueled

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unease among the financial giants' partners, with her role seen

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as a distraction. According to Bloomberg, I made the determination

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that the media attention on me relating to my prior

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work as a defense attorney was becoming a distraction, Rumler

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said a planned June thirtieth exit to The Financial Times.

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Her resignation marks high profile Wall Street fallout from Epstein's

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relationships with the elite of global finance, politics, and business.

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Britain's Peter Mandelsson lost his plumb role as UK Ambassador

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to the United States after fresh information emerged about his

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relationship with the shady financier. Another one who had no idea. Huh, Mandelssohn,

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smartest man in the room for all these years. Pretty

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dumb when it comes to Epstein. Rummler's testimony could shed

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light on his access to power players on both sides

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of the Atlantic, after the pair was found to be

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sharing their thoughts on media strategy and career advice in

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their lengthy correspondence. Epstein's twenty nineteen death ruled a suicide

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but dogged by conspiracy theories, followed his arrest on charges

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of running a sex trafficking ring involving miners and his

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British madam with this again, British Madam, I think what

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you mean is fellow child abuser, human trafficker, bipedal serpent

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Glenn Maxwell. That's what you meant, right, is currently serving

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a twenty year term on a similar charge. Rumler's White

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House stint under Obama burnished her lad resume, leading to

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a stint at the prestigious law firm Latham and Watkins

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before she joined Goldman. All Right, folks, though, there it is,

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and when we have more information about when these depositions

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are going to occur, we'll certainly get it added to

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the catalog. All the information that goes with this episode

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can be found in the description box.

