Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. As the congressional farce known as the Jeffrey
Epstein Investigation continues to rumble on, we're now hearing that
two more people are going to be called in to
sit down and give testimony, and those two people are
Howard Lutnik and Katherine Rumler. So in this episode, we
have two articles, both by the New York Post talking
about these new developments. First article, like I said, New
York Post, and the headline, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to
testify on association with Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored
by Josh Christiansen. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik said Tuesday that
he'll testify about his ties to the deceased sex offender
Jeffrey Epstein as a House Oversight committee seeks interviews with
seven other associates. Look, that's great, but it's nothing but
a circus. And at this point I'm convinced that the
whole entire thing is nothing but cover for the administration.
You notice how they come out and they champion what
the committee is doing. Oh yeah, the committee, they're taking
a look at all of this. Why do we need
the discharge petition. Well, this is why, because this whole
entire thing has been nothing but an absolute joke since
the start. Everybody wants to have their gotcha moment, their
viral moment on TV. And I don't know about you, folks,
but I'm pretty tired of being ruled by these wanna
be influencers. Stay off the Internet for a little while
and do your job. I look forward to appearing before
the committee. But Nick first told Axios without immediately sharing
a date for the testimony, I've done nothing wrong and
I want to set the record straight. Well okay, good,
but you've already lied. So why did you lie? That's
the real question. And again, look, I'm not saying Lutnik
was out here diddling kids with Epstein. I don't know.
We didn't see that evidence yet. Does that evidence exist, maybe,
but I haven't seen it. What I am telling you, though,
is that he is a liar, and as the Commerce Secretary,
to get up there and brazenly lie to the American
people and do it in such a brazen and nonchalant
manner is just unacceptable. So Howard Lutnik has to go
Oversight Chairman James Comer also said in a statement on
Tuesday that the cabinet official had proactively agreed to do
so after Democrats on the panel pushed for Lutnik to
be subpoenaed for questioning Why wouldn't the Republicans want to
do that? Why wouldn't the Republicans on the committee want
to hear from Howard Lutnick? What are they afraid of?
Don't you think if you were on the committee you
would be over cautious as to who you're not calling in,
Like optics matter, right? And is it too difficult for
these politicians to do what's best for all of us
and to just stow their bullshit for a little while.
Can't they just do that? Obviously not. I commend his
demonstrated commitment to transparency and appreciate his willingness with the committee.
I look forward to his testimony. Comer added, Yeah, you guys,
can you know, hang out afterwards and go play golf
or whatever it is you knuckleheads do? And how many
of these Republicans aren't going to show up for this one?
Probably a few of them. They couldn't be bothered to
show up for Wexner. You know, you can't really score
any political points there, so they decided, what the hell,
we're not even gonna bother going. But then they got
in their little camper van to go visit the Clinton's right, yeah,
because it wasn't all about optics or anything. And then
when we get to Chappaquah, you have the Democrats running
out every fifteen minutes giving an update about this that
the other thing, and what we're left with is just
competing narratives. And then of course everybody ran with whatever
their confirmation bias told them to run with, and then
once again, the survivors, they're just put in the background.
The Oversight Committee later released letters requesting transcribed interviews with
Goldman Sachs top lawyer, Catherine Rumler, Microsoft founder Bill Gates,
and ex Bill Clinton aide Doug Band hold on, wait
a minute, transcribed interviews with Goldman Sachs top lawyer. So
I'm hoping that means actual interviews and not just like
a letter. I think it means an actual interview like
we've been seeing. But we'll have to get some clarification.
You never know when you're dealing with our Congress. Voluntary
testimony was also sought from Apollo Global Management co founder
Leon Black, billionaire philanthropist Ted Waite, and Epstein assistants Leslie
Groff and Sarah Kellen assistants co conspirators, And why aren't
they being subpoena You're gonna subpoena everybody else but not
Leslie Groff and Sarah Kellen. Tell me you're not serious.
Without telling me you're not serious, The Department of Justice
has released millions of pages of documents from its investigation
into Epstein and is convicted. Madam Klaine Maxwell, you mean
co conspirator, general, all around scusbag, bipedal serpent, that's what
you mean. Right. Since the passage of the Epstein File
Transparency Act last November, many of the requested interviewees have
since face tough questions because of their chumminess with the
late Pedal file in email exchanges. Oh yeah, that's all
it is. For Leon Black, just a couple of email exchanges.
And Sarah Kellen and Leslie Groff nothing to see here,
but sure, Anna Pauline a Luna, let's call Haley Robson
a human trafficker. The fuck is wrong with you people?
I mean honestly. Lutnick agreed to the voluntary interview after
An undated photo of him wandering around alongside Epstein on
the Financier Pedophiles Private Island surfaced in official Justice Department
disclosures before being removed from the DJ website. CNN first
reported in an early February hearing before a Congress The
Commerce Secretary also admitted to lunch with Epstein on Little
Saint James Island that lasted roughly an hour in twenty twelve.
An hour for lunch, Okay, I guess what did you
guys eat? I mean an hour? How long does it
take to get from the boat, How long does it
take to get back? How long did lunch take? You
guys didn't talk. You just ate everybody's face down in
the bowl like it's a trough. I mean, you're all pigs,
so it wouldn't shock me. But we all know that's
not what went down. And Howard Nutlick knows that's not
what went down, but he's gonna shamelessly lie, that's my prediction,
just like the rest of these people, because they know
that Donald Trump is going to pardon them when all
this said and done, so they have nothing to worry about.
What you think Pam Bondy is going to be that
kind of abrasive, disgusting person. If she knew there was
something on the line, of course, not like internet tough guys.
She knew she can get away with it, so she
did it. We left with all my children, with my
nannies and my wife altogether. We were on a family vacation.
We were not a part, lut Nick told a Senate subcommittee.
I don't recall what we did, or I don't recall
why we did it. Excuse me, but we did. What
a weird ass statement to make. We left with all
my kids? What are you gonna leave one there? Hey, Jeffrey,
why don't you babysit little Johnny? Like? What the blazes
does that even mean? And you left with all your nannies,
I'd hope. So, considering what we know about Epstein, Maxwell,
the Dubins, mister Rizzo, and the young Swedish nanny Huh,
Lutnick copped in ahering to sharing drinks with the then
registered sex offender the year before in May, which was
memorialized in emails released as part of the djys Epstein Library.
Republicans and Democrats on the oversight panel had been calling
for Lutnik to be issued a subpoena to testify amid
the deposition of former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary
of State Hillary Clinton. Oh, maybe one or two like
Nancy Mace. But besides that, stop it. Let's not act
like James Comer's been out here ringing the bill. Nancy
Mace in particular, press Hillary Clinton in her deposition on
another email revealing Lutnick had invited Epstein to campaign fundraiser
in twenty fifteen during the ex First Lady's run for president.
Everything we know about Jeffrey Epstein, do we really believe
he didn't go to that fundraiser, didn't just walk right
next door, didn't donate through whichever beard he donated through.
I have hard time believing it. I'm sorry, but I do.
And as far as Hillary Clinton goes, come on, I
would trust a Taliban dentist in their diagnosis before I
trusted Hillary Clinton to tell me what time it was.
You know, I don't know if you know this or not,
but Hillary Clinton not exactly a reliable narrator. The DOJ
files also included FBI forms from twenty twenty and twenty
twenty one alleging a suspicious financial relationship between the neighbors. Epstein,
sixty six, was found dead on August tenth, twenty nineteen,
in a Manhattan jail while awaiting trial on sex trafficking
charges involving young girls. Federal investigators and medical examiners later
ruled it a suicide. Yeah, debatable at best, especially with
the information that we're going through now. Oh you thought
you saw all of it with Michael Thomas's deposition, you
haven't seen anything yet. I have depositions from everybody now,
from the electrical engineer, Tovin Owell, the Captain, and Mark
Epstein himself. And starting tomorrow morning, we're going to be
diving into that Mark Epstein stuff because it is explosive.
The former bear Stearns trader and money manager at for
Victoria's Secret CEO Les Wexner had enjoyed relationships with famous academics,
influential politicians, and even British Royalty before his death. Not
just British Royalty. We had Norwegian Royalty, we had the
House of Sad and I'm sure there's plenty of other
royals that this dude was mingling with that I'm not
even remembering right now. But it wasn't just the English
royal family. That's the most notorious, obviously because of the
Joe exotic of the Windsor family and his bullshit. But
Epstein was locked in when it comes to that kind
of circle. Some of those associations continued even after he
pleaded guilty to soliciting a minor for prostitution in two
thousand and eight, served thirteen months in a Florida state prison,
and had to register as a sex offender. President Trump
supported Lutnik on Friday, telling reporters Howard would go in
and do whatever he has to say. He is a
very innocent guy, doing a good job. How could you
say he's innocent. You don't know what happened. I thought
you weren't around. But one thing you can tell us
is that Howard Lutnick is innocent. Perfect. So we have
Bill Clinton and Donald Trump exonerating people. I'm going to
sleep great tonight. The picture, admissions and records directly contradicted
the cabinet officials remarks on Pod fourth one last October,
when Lutnick said he was never in the room with
Epstein socially for business or even philanthropy. The sixty four
year old CEO of Keunter Fitzgerald recounted to the Post
Miranda Divine, how he and his wife were given a
tour of his then neighbors infamous E seventy first Street
townhouse in two thousand and five, including its notorious massage room.
They get a massage. That's what his mo was, Get
a massage. Get a massage. And what happened to that
massage room I assume was on video? The Commerce Secretary said,
this guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. He blackmailed people.
That's how he had money. Well, that's odd. Didn't Donald
Trump in the administration tell us that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't
blackmailing anybody. That's not what he did. That's not who
he was. I guess Lutnik has other information that they
should ask him about. But after the visit, Lutnik claimed
he never set foot in any of Epstein's residences again
and never socialized with the financier. In the six or
eight steps it takes to get from his house to
my house, my wife and I decided that we will
never be in the room with that disgusting person again.
He said, So, look, Howard Lutnik, it's time right, It's
time for him to answer questions. It's time for Congress
to do the right thing and ask them the right questions,
and it's time for him to set the record straight
under oath. That way, we have everything on record. Right
later on down the road, who knows what will happen,
because I have a funny feeling that Howard Luttnik isn't
exactly telling us the truth. So we'll see when this
all gets scheduled and when Howard Lutnik ends up going
to Congress to answer a few questions. All right, Moving
on to the second article, this one also published by
the California Post and the headline Golobin Sachs lawyer Kathy
Rumler set to face Congress over Jeffrey Epstein ties. This
article was authored by James Frainey Goldman. Sachs outgoing General
Counsel Catherine Rumler was asked Tuesday to testify before the
House oversde Committee about her ties to Jeffrey Epstein, escalating
a Congressional probe into the late financier and sex offender's
elite network. And this should be a no brainer as
much as she was talked to by Jeffrey Epstein via
email and the positions that she held when these conversations
were being had. Yeah, she definitely needs to be put
on the record, and we need to know what's what.
House over Psyde Committee chairman James Comer wrote in a
letter reviewed by the Post that the panel believes Rumbler
holds key insights for its wide ranging Epstein investigation. Wide
ranging is it okay? Sure? You mean the investigation that
wouldn't go anywhere if it wasn't for the discharge petition.
That's what you mean, right. She was set to appear
before the Congressional grilling on April twenty first. It would
come after high profile appearances from Bill and Hillary Clinton
last week before the committee. The existence of the letter
was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. Miss Rummler
welcomes the opportunity to appear before the committee. At the time,
she had interacted with Jeffrey Epstein. She was a practicing
criminal defense attorney and shared a client with him. A
rep for the top lawyer told the Post she's done
nothing wrong and had no knowledge of any ongoing criminal
activity on his part. A Goldman SAX spokesperson declined to comment. Rumler,
a former Obama White House Council announced last month that
she would step down from Goldman later this year, amid
mounting revelations about her Epstein connections. What a liar, she
knew what he was. She didn't care. Okay, that's what
it comes down to. Like the rest of these people,
she didn't care. She maintains the relationship was purely professional,
sharing a client and occasionally advising him, but that she
regrets knowing the financier who died in jail in twenty
nineteen while a waiting sex trafficking trial. Rumbler's name surfaced
in reporting by the Journal as one of Epstein's closest
post conviction regulars, despite his two thousand and eight guilty
plea to soliciting a minor for a prostitution. Hell of
a guy that Jeffrey Epstein can't wait to go over
at his house and hang out. The fuck is wrong
with you people? Guy was diddling kids, diddling kids, and
you want to go to his house. Maybe all of
your hard drive should be checked two. Epstein listed her
as a backup executor in a twenty nineteen draft of
a will, called her the night of his arrest and
exchanged chatty emails laced with luxury gifts tens of thousands
of dollars in wine, handbags and more. Well, isn't that nice?
Wine handbags? More? Who cares about the literally thousand girls
with broken lives and chatter dreams? A handbag and some
chicken noodle soup out of the deal. She dubbed the
creep uncle Jeffrey and Sweedee, describing him as another older
brother in one missive Rumler joined Goldman in twenty twenty
after disclosing the connection to executives who said they conducted
due diligence and were satisfied. Well, yeah, they were in
bed with him too. Are you kidding me? What? Goldman
Sachs is the paragon of virtue and they only hire
good people. Financial sector evil CEO David Solomon stood by her,
calling her an excellent lawyer amid a media firestorm that
was sparked by a Justice Department document dump regarding the
dead Pedalphile, but the continued drip of negative stories fueled
unease among the financial giants' partners, with her role seen
as a distraction. According to Bloomberg, I made the determination
that the media attention on me relating to my prior
work as a defense attorney was becoming a distraction, Rumler
said a planned June thirtieth exit to The Financial Times.
Her resignation marks high profile Wall Street fallout from Epstein's
relationships with the elite of global finance, politics, and business.
Britain's Peter Mandelsson lost his plumb role as UK Ambassador
to the United States after fresh information emerged about his
relationship with the shady financier. Another one who had no idea. Huh, Mandelssohn,
smartest man in the room for all these years. Pretty
dumb when it comes to Epstein. Rummler's testimony could shed
light on his access to power players on both sides
of the Atlantic, after the pair was found to be
sharing their thoughts on media strategy and career advice in
their lengthy correspondence. Epstein's twenty nineteen death ruled a suicide
but dogged by conspiracy theories, followed his arrest on charges
of running a sex trafficking ring involving miners and his
British madam with this again, British Madam, I think what
you mean is fellow child abuser, human trafficker, bipedal serpent
Glenn Maxwell. That's what you meant, right, is currently serving
a twenty year term on a similar charge. Rumler's White
House stint under Obama burnished her lad resume, leading to
a stint at the prestigious law firm Latham and Watkins
before she joined Goldman. All Right, folks, though, there it is,
and when we have more information about when these depositions
are going to occur, we'll certainly get it added to
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