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Speaker 1: Happy Friday eight, Senator Ran Paul at about in the hour.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, Welcome back to the fifty five PRC
Speaker 1: Morning Show. On the website to refer to people, it's
Speaker 1: Protect Prosperity Day, Protect Prosperity dot Com with Donovan and
Speaker 1: Neil from Americans for Prosperity. Donovan, Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Morning Show. My friend's good to hear from you today, Brian.
Speaker 1: Great to be here with you, and I'm telling you
Speaker 1: these expiring trunk tax cuts. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: saw the reporting. I got a They was widely reported,
Speaker 1: but I got it out of Fox News. Ernst and
Speaker 1: Young did a study on behalf of the American National
Speaker 1: Association of Manufacturing. They figured if Congress does not act
Speaker 1: by the end of this year to preserve the tax
Speaker 1: cuts and Jobs Acts that they call the Trump Tax Cuts,
Speaker 1: we will lose an estimated five point nine million in
Speaker 1: American jobs and it will impact the economy profoundly. They
Speaker 1: say the manufacturing sector alone five hundred and forty billion
Speaker 1: dollars in lost wages of one point eight nine trillion
Speaker 1: GDP swordfall. The manufacturing jobs. One point one three seven
Speaker 1: million manufacturing jobs at one sector alone will be lost
Speaker 1: if these tax cuts don't remain in place. That's just
Speaker 1: that's that's some serious numbers, Donovan.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's why we at Americans for Prosperity have
Speaker 2: launched this Protect Prosperity campaign. It's a twenty million dollar,
Speaker 2: fifty state campaign that is designed to help raise awareness
Speaker 2: and apply necessary pressure on Congress to make sure they act,
Speaker 2: because you're really dealing with two things here, right, We're
Speaker 2: coming out of four years of Bidenomics, where folks have
Speaker 2: experienced massive increases in inflation that many folks call a
Speaker 2: hit in tax And then what the number two punch
Speaker 2: if Congress fails to act, as you sort of as
Speaker 2: you outlined there very well, is if the Trump tax
Speaker 2: cuts from twenty seventeen are allowed to expire, now you're
Speaker 2: gonna see an actual increase, a visible tax increase on
Speaker 2: your bill, on your paycheck you get every two weeks.
Speaker 2: And that's why we need to get Congress to act
Speaker 2: protect prosperity and make the Trump tax cuts permanent as
Speaker 2: soon as possible this year.
Speaker 1: So is this effort in terms of how the logistics
Speaker 1: of the Protect Prosperity work. The twenty million dollar nation
Speaker 1: nationwide campaign you're talking about, is it to just the
Speaker 1: raise awareness about these specific points so the American population
Speaker 1: is aware that we need these tax cuts in place
Speaker 1: in order to continue our prosperity. Or are you asking
Speaker 1: people to take action to get in touch with their
Speaker 1: elected officials in DC to tell them to pass to
Speaker 1: keep these taxes at the current level.
Speaker 3: I mean, how's the effort going to work? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's what we do beast right, And you're
Speaker 2: so many times talking about it, and your listeners give
Speaker 2: us a hand all the time with it, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna get out there and get things done right. Part
Speaker 2: of what we're doing right now is elevating the voices
Speaker 2: of Ohioans who want to see these tax cuts made permanent, right,
Speaker 2: connecting them to their member of Congress.
Speaker 3: Because here's what we're gonna do right. We got Bernie Marino.
Speaker 2: Elected, We've got great folks like Warren Davidson here in Ohio,
Speaker 2: Jim Jordan and many others, Dave Taylor down in Southwest Ohio.
Speaker 3: They've committed to getting this stuff done right.
Speaker 2: But what we need to do is give them the support,
Speaker 2: the grassroots support to make sure that they have the
Speaker 2: stories to file in the halls of Congress, right and
Speaker 2: talk about the real Americans who are going to be
Speaker 2: impacted if these tax cuts are out to inspire. So
Speaker 2: it's a full court grassroots press that we'll be engaging
Speaker 2: on over the next four to six months to help
Speaker 2: see this get done well.
Speaker 1: Speaking to Ohio specifically because you're the Ohio state Director
Speaker 1: of Americans for Prosperity Donovan, and I saw your quote
Speaker 1: on this, let my listeners know the impact on ohioans
Speaker 1: in terms of dollar amounts if these expire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the average cost is going to be about
Speaker 2: twelve hundred dollars for individuals that their tax rates will
Speaker 2: go up. Businesses will see an average of eight hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty one. Keep in mind these are averages, right,
Speaker 2: This is spread out over the four million Ohio winds
Speaker 2: who are are employed by a pastor, IU entity or something.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So, uh, but these have these have sort of you know,
Speaker 2: multi layered effects. Right, It's not just that you're going
Speaker 2: to you know, you might see a little more out
Speaker 2: of your paycheck every two weeks. Uh, when a business
Speaker 2: as taxes go up what do they do, Brian, Do
Speaker 2: they just eat that cost and say, oh shucks.
Speaker 1: No, they raise the price of their goods and services.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: They have to pass up on their consumers because they
Speaker 2: have they have families with mouths to feet as well.
Speaker 3: Right, So it has a ripple effect through the economy.
Speaker 2: Uh, in the you know, on an individual level, on
Speaker 2: the thousands of dollars scale, but certainly on a nationwide
Speaker 2: level millions billions dollar scale that if we don't get
Speaker 2: this done, it gonna it's gonna really put the country
Speaker 2: in a jam.
Speaker 1: Now, are you working with the Trump team on any level?
Speaker 1: I mean, is it would that even help if you
Speaker 1: had Trump or a Trump team's ear on this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, he'll be sworn in on Monday.
Speaker 2: We're excited about that January twentieth. It will be a
Speaker 2: big day for our country. And uh, you know, part
Speaker 2: of our work is is elevating the Trump tax cuts. Right,
Speaker 2: he's the guy who got this done in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: We did a lot of grass I was around to them,
Speaker 2: We did a lot of grassroots work thanking members and
Speaker 2: the president for getting that done. And we're gonna be
Speaker 2: doing that again, right, But ultimately the way these things
Speaker 2: still work, right, Congress has.
Speaker 3: To get to get the ball rolling.
Speaker 2: We're confident they will, but we want to make sure
Speaker 2: they keep this as the top priority coming into the
Speaker 2: spring as they and they work to get to get
Speaker 2: the country back on track after four years of Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: All right, when you're outspreading the word on this, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna have the how you walk through the arguments
Speaker 1: against the increase in taxes, you're gonna run into people say, well, look,
Speaker 1: we've we've been spending like drunken sales. We've got this
Speaker 1: massive hole we've got to fill, which is the thirty
Speaker 1: seven trillion dollars in debt we have. If we cut taxes,
Speaker 1: that means less money going to Washington and therefore probably
Speaker 1: a more sizable borrowing.
Speaker 3: They will not.
Speaker 1: They mean the fundamental point being our government never ever cuts,
Speaker 1: It just continues to expand and get more expensive, and
Speaker 1: fewer tax dollars going into the Washington makes it impossible
Speaker 1: to overcome the challenge of the deficit.
Speaker 2: Then it's a false premise Brian put out there on it.
Speaker 2: It's your money, it's our money, it's your listener's money. Brian,
Speaker 2: it's not Washington's. We've put five They've put five trillion
Speaker 2: more dollars in the last four years. That put us
Speaker 2: up to thirty six trillion dollars in national debt.
Speaker 3: It's a problem. But you don't solve that problem by.
Speaker 2: Continue to feed the beams that mismanages that money and
Speaker 2: letting them take more of your money. You tell them stop,
Speaker 2: You're not going to get any more of this, and
Speaker 2: you've got to tighten your belt and get the fiscal
Speaker 2: house in order.
Speaker 3: We can.
Speaker 2: We can do that with this new Republican majority as well,
Speaker 2: but it starts by making sure these Trump tax does
Speaker 2: stay permanent so that we don't add that, you know
Speaker 2: that that second punch of the inflation and now the raise,
Speaker 2: the increase in UH in income taxes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Congressman Massey about the Republicans
Speaker 1: and reigning and being fiscally responsible, and he didn't really
Speaker 1: leave me with a positive feeling about it, because you know,
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, when they're hammering out these omnibus deals
Speaker 1: and UH and reconciliation, they're always looking out for their
Speaker 1: own best interests and even with their own best interest.
Speaker 1: It's their pet project in their state. I always been
Speaker 1: relying lately on the F thirty five aircraft. I think
Speaker 1: it's a pointless and unnecessary, countless billion dollar item that
Speaker 1: isn't going to benefit us in time. In war times,
Speaker 1: we're moving more toward drones. We don't have enough submarines things,
Speaker 1: I mean, allocation of of of you know, scarce resources
Speaker 1: like tax dollars. They don't listen to the screams and
Speaker 1: cries of you need to cut, you need to cut,
Speaker 1: let's quit paying for dumb things. And they get very territorial,
Speaker 1: even though they're supposed to be fiscally responsible and pay
Speaker 1: lip service to it. When it comes to their own backyard,
Speaker 1: they won't cut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, and that's why you know, grassroots
Speaker 2: organizations like ours and folks that Congress a master you
Speaker 2: are important. Right, they're the folks who are gonna keep
Speaker 2: Congress on if something happens. When you get out there
Speaker 2: in DC, you drink the water, and even the best
Speaker 2: begin to change just a little bit. But back to
Speaker 2: my point, right, don't feed the beast. It's your money,
Speaker 2: not Washington's.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Of the best ways to keep them from spending more
Speaker 2: money is to make sure they don't get it every
Speaker 2: two weeks out of your paycheck by letting the Trump
Speaker 2: tax cuts expire.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I pled with him to let me know who the
Speaker 1: specific people are and to provide me with specific illustrations.
Speaker 1: His comment didn't call my listeners, he said, listen, I
Speaker 1: got to work with these people. It was like, wait,
Speaker 1: you know, the one guy that you think will wake
Speaker 1: is standing out and out the people who are responsible
Speaker 1: for not, you know, tightening the belt a little bit.
Speaker 3: He's stuck up there with him.
Speaker 1: So it makes it a little more challenging.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: So the website is UH is protect Prosperity dot com.
Speaker 3: What do my listeners need to do? Well, first thing,
Speaker 3: go to protect Prosperity dot com. Sign up to take action.
Speaker 2: We're reaching out to folks who do that to get
Speaker 2: them connected to events and activities we have coming up.
Speaker 3: The other thing you can do if.
Speaker 2: You're hearing about this for the first time, or you're
Speaker 2: wondering about the details of it, or you gotta.
Speaker 3: Uh one of your progressive friends.
Speaker 2: Is saying, we got a we gotta we can't afford
Speaker 2: to cut taxes anymore.
Speaker 3: Go give them that website.
Speaker 2: Educate them, but go to Protect Prosperity dot Com today,
Speaker 2: sign up and take action with us.
Speaker 1: So it's uh, it's dot com. I had I think
Speaker 1: I had. Okay, I did say dot com Protect Prosperity
Speaker 1: dot Com. I'm staring at the website right now. Donovan
Speaker 1: and'eil keep up the great work. We'll keep our fingers
Speaker 1: crossed that they don't raise our taxes. Certainly we're not
Speaker 1: getting a very good bang for our buck when it
Speaker 1: comes to taxes anyway, and it is our money. Let's
Speaker 1: be able to spend it how we want. Let's improve
Speaker 1: the number of jobs out there. Let's expand on businesses.
Speaker 1: Let's well make things better for the state of Ohio
Speaker 1: with Donovan O'Neil and Americans for prosper parties. Help Donovan
Speaker 1: until we talk again, Hope you have a great week
Speaker 1: and weekend.
Speaker 3: Have a great weekend, Brian, Thanks for having me.
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