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Speaker 2: This week, We've done it. We got them.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest mysteries in history has been solved

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and we are here to talk about it. Thanks to

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some very special and very intimate DNA evidence, Jack the

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Ripper has been caught. We are joined by Jesse Wiseman

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of Crime Corner to discuss this shocking revelation and the

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man they believe for all is the true Jack the Ripper.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the episode. Welcome to Softcore History. What is up?

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Welcome back to Softcore History.

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Speaker 1: I am your host for the week, Rob Vox, joined

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us always by Dan Rojester, and we have a very

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special and this time relevant.

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Speaker 2: Instead of just like hey, will you do the pod?

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Speaker 1: There is an actual reason beside her being lovely, that

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she is on the show today.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Wiseman of Crime Corner is here.

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Speaker 3: Hello, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for coming. Robb always skips over my intro.

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Speaker 3: You guys have been fighting. Yeah, I love walking into it, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, like a couple that's been fighting, you walk in

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and come.

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Speaker 3: No, oh, you guys have been.

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Speaker 2: No, never find Robin.

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Speaker 4: I've never find another human being because I'm a warrior poet.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: So since you edit the show, though, you could during

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that entire intro have it on your face.

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Speaker 1: That good, just like facing forward, I would say never,

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don't even have it on me.

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Speaker 2: Not a single shot ever. I did once.

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Speaker 6: Upload just the single camera for one show and I

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had to re upload. But oh single not that I exported,

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just the singles, and it was just on me. There's

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a lot of like moments of me just sitting there.

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Actually there's mostly me just sitting there going m hmmmm.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, thought quietly nodding.

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Speaker 3: That's that's interesting. That could be a fun way to do.

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Speaker 6: It's a podcasts yeah, and it's probably not great for

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this medium.

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Speaker 2: But but in general it says more.

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Speaker 1: Than I the strong quiet type is the podcast everyone

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you're in sport, Yes.

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Speaker 7: Of course, lots OF's, lots of did.

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Speaker 3: My did my thing go out?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Oh, did it stop?

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Speaker 2: I like those kinds that is kind of like like, uh,

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it was Alex treatment.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, says eight words per episode, gonna let

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the guest talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, And so that's why you're here. I

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don't want to work. He's not gonna say anything.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm constantly doing twelve other things while we do

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the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are fighting watching, Yeah, we guys were

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Were we not speaking to each other when you walked in.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it was definitely like it had gotten to the

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silent treatment art of the fight. Believe me, I'm well

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bursed in in the exact.

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Speaker 2: Rollercoaster that I missed you.

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Speaker 1: I like that your fights, both romantically and professionally happened

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with the same person.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, so like it's a it's a funny dynamic. And

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I just put line out on on the show like

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on Ross Tires and Revolution, and I know you guys

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know it too, and you stay quiet just like, well,

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this is not saying there is no winning in this

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and I can't take anyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I always poke, Yeah, definitely, I just quietly take

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those free Twitter until it's time.

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Speaker 2: To do something fun to get.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I'm typically on your side usually yeah, yeah, right,

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how could you not be on my side?

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Speaker 2: Always?

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Speaker 5: I make good as points when it comes to our

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fights on camera.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never met a man so wronged in your house.

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Speaker 7: It's so true, right, it's so true.

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Speaker 5: And thank you guys when you have me on and

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I like, I take pride in why but why do

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that today?

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Speaker 2: Big news today? This is not just reciprocal for me

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being on crime corner.

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Speaker 3: The other day. Rogan style, very good?

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Speaker 2: Check it so long? I don't I honestly forgot how

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long the show's going. You go. So it's just like

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you know what, Cliff, I'm doing right with the lawyer?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get gold good anyways, Yeah, check out that crack

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for Jesse Wiseman after But we do. This is a

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crime episode because ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

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Speaker 2: We got him. Mission accomplished.

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Speaker 1: Justice has finally been served. Jack the Ripper has been.

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Speaker 3: Caught, caught and in jail.

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Speaker 2: We got ready to answer for his crown.

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Speaker 3: Yep, ready ready to answer all the questions.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to that because that part is

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the part of this episode that made me the angriest exactly.

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Speaker 2: I will get to that part, but it's a little

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too on the nose as well. The actual guy, Oh

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he's a bar.

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Speaker 1: Bird whoa, which meant a lot of things back then.

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Speaker 3: Spoiler, but that actually made a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Genetic tests published this week point to Aaron Kuzminski, a

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twenty three year old Polish barber and even at the

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time of the killings, a prime suspect for the police.

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Speaker 8: Because of uh, someone hearing that name being called right,

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Speaker 2: Gouz Minsky, poor, look baba.

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Speaker 3: Right, and then they were using that. They were using

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that name as like a.

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Speaker 5: Jewish because Minsky were they like it was something, Yeah,

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I think if it is the right suspect, but.

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Speaker 3: One of the suspects. I think there was someone called

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this name, yeah, and it was used in the town.

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Speaker 2: It was like, oh, so it was a Polish Jew.

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It was a Polish Jew.

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Speaker 3: Because Minsk.

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Speaker 4: A million different ways.

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Speaker 1: Not a good not a dub for the Jews this week.

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And honestly, if you are like lunatic pro Palestine person,

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you gotta be all over this Jack the Ripper stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Jews champing. Nothing. What I've been telling you.

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Speaker 1: You got a watermelon in your bio, get on it.

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This his prime content for you.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: But we believe that the Pope shit on it.

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Speaker 1: Israel, so we take neither side, of course, of course,

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to be clear, we're not pro.

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Speaker 6: Maybe not Francis, so we might replace him.

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Speaker 2: He probably more of a hardliner. Yeah. I do like

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Pope Frank, but his usefulness has been.

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Speaker 6: Served and it's going to be Catholic Dubai anyway. Oh

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comes down with like Catholic Disneyland. Yeah, that'd be incredible.

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Speaker 2: But yeah.

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Speaker 1: The forensic examination that nailed Kuzminsky, that finally got this

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son of a bitch, was of a stained silk shawl.

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Investigators said that it was found next to the mutilated

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body of Catherine Eddo's, the killer's fourth victim in the

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Year of Our Lord eighteen hundred and eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Now, Jesse, how do you think specifically we caught this man.

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Speaker 3: Specifically? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It has to be some type of for men from.

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Speaker 3: The body, those deep DNA on the.

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Speaker 2: On the scar, on the on the shawl. He came

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on the shawl.

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Speaker 3: That was the problem with all of it, right, as

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far as these ladies had DNA all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Right, they were just glowing.

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Speaker 3: Glowing with DNA. So if it wasn't blood, Okay.

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Speaker 2: They found one hundred and fifty year old Seamen on

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the shawl. Hmmm, they did. Also he murdered before the

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nut or after the nut.

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Speaker 1: Well, as we know would say like the BTK killer.

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They found Semen at the scene. They believe he jerked off.

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Speaker 6: Afterwards afterwards, right, yeah, because you would think after a

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post not clarity, you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Kill, you don't kill?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if I don't, yeah, the whole foreplay, right killing.

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Speaker 6: Because that's how I feel after I'm asturbate too. It's

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just like, oh what have I done?

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Speaker 2: Now? Imagine if there's a dead body, right, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you have the urge to murder

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and then you jerk up, there is a zero percent

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chance you are going.

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Speaker 3: To murder, you would just do that.

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Speaker 1: I want a sandwich just so, oh boy, all right,

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that is the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I am tired, I.

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Speaker 3: Am exhausted. H Okay, Semen on.

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Speaker 2: The shawl, Semen on the shawl, and this was.

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Speaker 1: Help confirm by my new favorite college job title, professor

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doctor whenever in the.

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Speaker 2: History of the world. A sperm expert at the University

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of Leeds and the United Kingdom helped helped them. Oh gosh, down,

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what do you want to be?

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Speaker 3: Okay, the just duc a semen.

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Speaker 2: Expert, sperm expert, sperm.

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Speaker 5: Expert, yeah, forensic sperm expert or just.

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article from the Scientific American. So this wasn't even like

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the New York Post. He was like, yeah, the sperm expert,

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old doctor.

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Speaker 5: Nutt, like what they said it without even blaking right, right, right, right,

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everyone knows that we have that.

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Speaker 2: Of course, come down to our sperm laboratory and right, yes,

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doctor doctor Nutt will hand it's unfortunate. He's very cood,

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very cold.

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Speaker 3: And studying it for and.

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Speaker 1: See more semen than even off Paul Catherine.

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Speaker 2: See imagine, if you can believe it, imagine.

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Speaker 4: If Sherlock had this expertise, there would.

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Speaker 3: Be no there would be no.

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Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes would just be like, just take Charlock. Holmes

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would just take the shawl and be like, pull up

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the semen. He would put it the Yeah, but Watson,

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which does this semen smell that to you? Perrogis?

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Speaker 8: Yes, indeed semen found on a prostitute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it would narrow it down.

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Speaker 5: But but okay, but because there was there's a finite

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number of suspects, you've narrowed it down, right.

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Speaker 2: It's like Jeffrey he's clear, sure.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, all this other semen totally clear. This Admiral

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Semen clear, uh whatever, Actually down man, I'm almost getting

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down in Whitechapel. But we wouldn't imagine this, however, is

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not the first time. So, like I said, because Minski

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was a suspect from the beginning, Yes, he was a

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very one of the inner circle suspects.

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Speaker 2: I would say there's been so there was some way

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accurately like Prince.

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Speaker 1: Albert, that type of thing, right, if only that's the dream,

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is that it was actually Prince Albert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you wouldn't.

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Speaker 6: Be able to select the fucking giz because it'd be

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going like four ways.

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Speaker 2: What the Prince Albert? Oh? Yeah, true, the Pierson Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this would be something in your childhood

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when like they put a hose in the yard and

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it's like a de facto sprinkler that the kids run

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Speaker 5: How do they close off the so it's just flowing

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it's like, yeah, that's sweet little redneck action.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: They say the shotguns the best for home defense because

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of the spray. I imagine the best way to get

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pregnant is with somebody that has in Prince alb multiple holes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, since I'm on a history podcast, why do they

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call it again the Prince Albert? I'm sure you guys

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have this in your in your arsenal Right, piercing in

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is referring to something to do with Prince Albert.

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Speaker 6: Right, I'm only familiar with the wrestler Albert, so it

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beats me.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, here's some good ones.

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Speaker 1: But possible origins of the name, uh, the dressing ring.

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Victorian Haberdashers may have called it the dressing ring because

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they used it to secure the penis to the leg

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he had the piercing so he had a piercing Prince Albert. Yeah,

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I guess he used it to pull back the foreskin

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to keep it smelling fresh for the queen.

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Speaker 2: Cool. Maybe just take a bath. I can't bathe every day.

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I have to stable my penis open. Couldn't It wasn't

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Prince could.

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Speaker 3: Prince could.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true to guys now that you know, are unserved.

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Speaker 6: They have an art time cleaning that. So he's just

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making it easier on himself to saniti.

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Speaker 1: So the one of the myths was is that he

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was he just had such a big dick that he

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needed to anchor it to his leg.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, and then that the piercing comes from.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, having a big dick.

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Speaker 3: I knew it was like something.

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Speaker 6: Not great for battle, right, I mean, Prince albertn't go

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swinging around.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't know who Prince Albert is. Like Victoria's husband, okay,

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but also the son and.

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Speaker 1: Her grandson I believe was Prince Albert. Yes, but her husband,

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her beloved husband, was Prince Albert.

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Speaker 4: So again, I'm only familiar with a tran the wrestling

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of who a Tran.

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Speaker 2: Also known as Albert? Oh yeah, no, I literally who

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that is. It's the big fat bald man.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, kauz Minsky had been linked to the murders

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before from the beginning. The test compared fragments of mina

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caadural DNA, which is the DNA inherent from your mother,

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only from your mother.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you watch your mouth your mother? What I thought

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it was like an insult?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your mother. Yeah you got this Jews from

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your mom, didn't you. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, she's got a

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lot to hang it out, you know. You know what, George.

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Speaker 1: They cross reference it with descendants living descendants of both

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Eeddo's and Kazminsky. The DNA matched a living relative of

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kauz Minsky, so they concluded that kause Minsky was the

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one who he did bleed on it as well. But

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they conceivemen too, okay, and so they were like, yeah,

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that's kiz Minsky.

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Speaker 2: It matches with his current descendant.

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Speaker 1: The analysis all suggested the killer had brown hair and

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brown eyes, which agrees with evidence from the eyewitnesses that

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Kaminsky was a brown hair.

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Speaker 2: Brown eyed Jewish pollnock yep, yeah, so does that limit

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it though?

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Speaker 4: Brown eyes, brown hair, and that's no good.

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Speaker 2: England At the time, no, you all the blue eyes

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are were common in the UK.

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Speaker 5: Now they were not at the time, apparently, right, So

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the that's I mean, that's how they they were just flake.

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Speaker 1: Oh a brown a white, brown eyed, brown eyed man

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stabbed him.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I'll just check the whole fucking see. Brown eyes,

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I'm the most common, right in the universe.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I have blue eyes, so I special.

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Speaker 2: But I think green eyes are the most rare.

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Speaker 4: Blue eyes are second, and everyone has brown eyes.

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Speaker 2: Brown is the baseline. Brown is the original human eyes.

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Speaker 3: And then there's like variations of best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what do you guys have? Blue? Bluish? Oh,

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we're all bluish. Look at you, blonde hair, blue eyed.

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Speaker 5: I need listen. I am the opposite of this guy. Yeah,

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I would be on the other side, if.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'll the Jewish math. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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you would become covered.

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Speaker 3: I'm holding the door to the gas chamber.

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Speaker 2: Do you say, yeah, when you work in the office.

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Speaker 3: I'm working in the office, probably some kind of secretary

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or whatever. Yeah, Like I'm not in any.

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Speaker 2: Way, Like I told you. I think I told you

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on the Grand Corn that I felt bad for the old.

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Speaker 5: Secretary that they finally I think we were talking about

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in reference to this where it's a little bit like

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they got him and you go, okay, but he went

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his whole life.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, but I think you should have to execute

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that person based on their time. So we catch all

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the Nazis, execute them in the manner that they were

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executed in their forties.

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Speaker 2: Hang hang yeah, yeah, hang a ninety five to.

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Speaker 5: One hundred year old, or like gas put them in

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a gas shape, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Or like electric chair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, watch that old bag fry.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hanging a ninety five year old I feel

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like would not be difficult because break neck right, I mean,

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probably decapitate them.

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Speaker 5: Pop more disturbing for you, you know what I mean,

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for you to watch it than for it to be

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like satisfying for.

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Speaker 2: Boy. We got god, everyone feel cool.

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Speaker 3: We'll still feel super good about this. And we're sure

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it was him. There was sing star So how.

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Speaker 2: Caranny go out? Oh boy? Yeah? Meanwhile died.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess she was a secretariat duckhouse. You know, honestly,

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if it was my grandmother, I would be like, I

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don't care.

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Speaker 2: She's all we.

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Speaker 5: Were hiding her we'd be accessories and there's obstructions.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, listen, mister Massad, I understand your point,

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and I am I'm sorry all of a sudden, yeah, sure,

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circle of life. Uh So Aaron Kazminsky, let's get a

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little background him. He was born in Poland, which was

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then part of the Russian Empire. It's not precisely known

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when Aaron left Poland to join his sisters in Germany,

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and he lived in Germany for only a short amount

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of time. He left Poland after the attempted or I'm

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sorry the not the attempt is the assassination of Tsar

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Alexander the second, because, believe it or not, after Tzar

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Alexander the second was assassinated, a bunch of Russians were

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like Jews, yeah, and so a whole lot of Jewish

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people had to get the fuck out of Russia.

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Speaker 2: That is, this is actually one of the things that

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Speaker 1: Is a source of a lot of maybe not Ellis Island,

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which is a lot of American immigration as well a

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lot of the a lot. This is when a lot

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of Jews came to Russian Jews, Polish Jews came to America,

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right we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do anything. They're like, yeah, you're all in Kousi.

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Speaker 1: They're all rip it up ladies, and yeah, yeah, so

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they had to get the fuck out of Russia or

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Russian territory, I should say they're in Poland technically. The

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family finally moved to Britain and settled in London sometime

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in eighteen eighty one or eighteen eighty two.

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Speaker 2: Allegedly, he shouted, he.

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Speaker 1: Started showing symptom symptoms of mental illness in eighteen eighty

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five and had been in and out of insane asylums.

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Speaker 7: But like back then, right, pretty.

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Speaker 5: Broad, uh, when they're talking about mental illness, right, Like

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if you were just like a little bit you.

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Speaker 2: Had a bad day, everyone happened ran.

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Speaker 5: The gamut though, right, but yeah, it could be like

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a woman out her period.

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Speaker 6: Or England and the lady eighteen hundreds just smoke stacks,

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like the city's full of smile.

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Speaker 2: It's just nothing but lead and cold smoke.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like what you haven't seen the sun in years.

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Speaker 2: Syphilis is not cured for sure.

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Speaker 3: They're all running around like city full his brain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so I think just a standard Londoner really

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at this point.

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Speaker 3: That sounds about right.

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Speaker 2: Nothing nothing out of the ordinary so far.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He apparently feared other people would refuse to eat and

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bathe according to one historian. And like I said, he's

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twenty three when he went on the killing spree when

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he was in London, when he did work, because Minsky

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was a barber. Uh, in a he's afraid of people,

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though not all the time. I guess he sucked it

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up either.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's being so you don't really like talk to

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people that much, right, they're like.

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Speaker 2: It's always on one conversation, the.

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Speaker 3: Blades of it all.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the eight friend.

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Speaker 1: Barbar o, nonsense, they're all just heads to him, you

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know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know any He doesn't know people. He just

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knows the hair and the head.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't really they don't really talk like back

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in the day, for sure, dudes would go to the

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barber to like chill the fuck out.

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Speaker 3: It's like a.

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Speaker 2: Spot, get a ship.

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Speaker 3: If you're not talking, you're literally just like playing back.

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Speaker 1: Cigarette in the mouth, fucking shape and yeah, yeah nothing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a perfect job for someone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty basic. Like uh other wife and kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: And you're done.

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Speaker 6: Meanwhile, the fucking hairstylus is just like telling you about

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her cat and her very sad and pathetic life.

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Speaker 2: Jesus correct.

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Speaker 6: Have you ever talked to a hairstylist that it's the

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worst conversation ever?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just talked to many of That's why I'm

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no longer actually talking to one right now.

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Speaker 3: I agree with him. I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: And they're all bees. They stand all day and they're

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all fat, and.

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Speaker 5: If they're not, they're fucking crazy. Hairstyle hairstylists are crazy.

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Speaker 3: The hours.

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Speaker 5: See, we our weekends are Sunday Monday, so we seem

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like fucking alcoholic, you know what I mean, Like we're

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working when you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, they're probably drinking on the job.

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Speaker 5: Harder to do last place I worked, Yeah, but like

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you do, it's easier to do drugs so you can

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like stay up, take a bunch of like clients. So

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there's just crazy looking coke weird party hours.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I also only ever had like I guess what you

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want to say, fat hairstyles whatever at.

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Speaker 2: Like cheap places.

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Speaker 1: That's not a thing, and like nice that the nice

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hair salons I've been through whenever, they're.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely like aesthetically absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: Not sport clips.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to sports clips either, Dude, super cuts

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not super cuts.

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Speaker 2: Where is the mall? Are you getting your hair? I

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know we don't know a barber.

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Speaker 5: But I know where you were going, and that's the

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equivalent of super cuts.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: Stats, it's a little better, but it's definitely like a

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right out of Cosmetolson.

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Speaker 2: Also used to get my hair cut at Lfetopic. Oh okay,

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I don't even know how that would be perfectly fine.

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Speaker 6: Forty dollars Okay, how much should you spend on your hair?

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Speaker 4: It's forty dollars enough for your up forty dollars a lot.

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Speaker 2: In a pinch, it should be twenty five dollars. Oh really,

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I think it's about fifty on my last one salon.

470
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,039
Speaker 7: What they do.

471
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,519
Speaker 3: That's fucking crazy, dude.

472
00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: Okay. It was cut after place right now. It was

473
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,440
a dude place, but it was like staffed by women,

474
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,359
but it was like a nice place. It wasn't like

475
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,599
sport Clips or whatever the fuck. Oh, they gave you

476
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,440
like a nice class sup urban.

477
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,039
Speaker 1: The shampoo shaved the neck okay style which I just

478
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:50,759
put my hand back on.

479
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, you don't really your hair is just glued

480
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,440
to your head.

481
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:57,799
Speaker 1: Oh no, man, it is right now, but it flies

482
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,680
up when I don't wear my hand and again that's

483
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,480
whole going at home.

484
00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:04,559
Speaker 2: But I'm fucking lazy, fucking kids. You know you have

485
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,920
a start. I have leg hair.

486
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,079
Speaker 5: Sweet Anyways, what I also wanted to say is cosmetology

487
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:18,279
school is it's a year of like every day eight

488
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,880
hours for a year. Barber you have to go for

489
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,400
two years and it's like a lot more intricate.

490
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: And no offense, but not the best and brightest.

491
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: Barber for some reason.

492
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 5: I think, as you're dealing with blades okay, I don't know,

493
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,240
I'm saying.

494
00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: For you.

495
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we're not dealing with flake sharpay all drugs

496
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,000
by things.

497
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:43,079
Speaker 3: So it makes sense to me the barber.

498
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: Because my haircuts last thirty minutes. My wife's hair appointments

499
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,000
are like two fucking hours long.

500
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:53,599
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, but it's not. Yeah, I don't know.

501
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: I don't know why, because.

502
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 5: Barber's is usually man and so they want them to

503
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,160
be like, you know, more skills, sure meen, They're like

504
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,960
do you look in.

505
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: The collar are right there? I go, just put it in.

506
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: It's just a bottle. They think you're doing more work.

507
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:11,279
And he was a barber, by the way, in the

508
00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:13,720
White Chapel. It's also easier for us if you fuck

509
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:14,720
up our haircut.

510
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,599
Speaker 2: To ship my head. Yeah, give me up, just do it.

511
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: And Whitechapel uh is where quite a few Jewish refugees

512
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,359
that were fleeing Eastern Europe ended up inta so a

513
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,160
very Jewish area. But like I said, he only works sometimes.

514
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,240
He only worked sporadically apparently, and by eighteen ninety one

515
00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:36,279
he hadn't even attempted to have a job for years.

516
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:40,000
So he's just living off his sisters, kind of bumming

517
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:43,519
around from not I guess technically homeless, but not sleeping

518
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:44,960
on the street type of situation.

519
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 5: Well, the way that that that part of town was

520
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,319
set up, it was a lot of like bunk houses.

521
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 3: So basically everyone was just thitten wall away.

522
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,799
Speaker 2: From like literally sleep on.

523
00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: The streets the living just like yeah.

524
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: It was a fucking nightmare. And he came up, like

525
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,400
I said in the reports at the time. In eighteen

526
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:17,599
ninety four memo written by Sir Melville mangitchen man changing

527
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,359
whatever the fuck?

528
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: Written by assistant Assistant Chief Constable.

529
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: No, no, it's just a weird British name or Scottish maybe,

530
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,319
I don't know. The chief Assistant Chief Constable of the Lunner

531
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,319
Metro Police named one of the suspects as a Polish

532
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,759
Jew called kauz Minsky. The constable stated that there were

533
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:38,160
strong reasons for suspecting him because he had quote a

534
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,799
great hatred of women and strong homicidal tendencies.

535
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,519
Speaker 2: So this guy hates hates sluts, well, all women.

536
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:49,759
Speaker 3: I guess they couldn't.

537
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you find out that he hates women?

538
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 5: It's also weird back in the day, and that they

539
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,799
couldn't just be like you're going to jail, do you.

540
00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

541
00:27:58,279 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 6: Like?

542
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,319
Speaker 3: Right, the thing to get DNA and all that wasn't

543
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,279
even a thing?

544
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: Is it is funny? Like, oh, we don't call enough evidence?

545
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,640
So what do you meanence, you don't care about the

546
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,519
evidence exactly?

547
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,599
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Like everyone he's a menace, right,

548
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:13,880
nobody likes him. You think it's him?

549
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: He's not contributing to something.

550
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,079
Speaker 4: Slash schools and asked questions lander.

551
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, one's gonna fucking protest.

552
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: The police just fucking grab.

553
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,759
Speaker 7: Him the kiel him.

554
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:27,759
Speaker 1: Another assistant Commissioner, Sir Robert Anderson, in his memoirs in

555
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:31,680
nineteen ten, claimed that the Ripper was a quote low

556
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:36,000
class Polish Jew, and Chief Inspector Donald Swanson, who led

557
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:40,319
the Ripper investigation, named the man Kazminski in handwritten notes

558
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:43,880
in the margin in the margins of his presentation copy

559
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:51,599
of Anderson's memoirs. However, this was a heavily populated area

560
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,720
as far as jew the Jewish population was concerned, specifically

561
00:28:55,759 --> 00:29:02,279
Polish and Eastern European Jews. And these people only never

562
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:08,119
gave a last name. Oh, they never said Aaron Kazminsky.

563
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,039
They just said Kisminsky.

564
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:12,759
Speaker 3: It was always other people.

565
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,279
Speaker 2: There's other Kusmin's. Well, Dad, I don't a picture.

566
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Dad never Dad is either killed in the pograms or

567
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,920
it was just like my family left and I didn't

568
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,400
like that much.

569
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,359
Speaker 2: I'll probably just have a new family. Yeah whatever. Eighteen

570
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:28,799
eighty stuff for sure. Not an uncommon name, though not

571
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:30,000
as far as I'm aware.

572
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: Not in a terribly uncommon name, not like Smith, per se,

573
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:39,960
but like not uncommon. In nineteen eighty seven. The Ripper

574
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,720
author Martin Martin Faido searched asylum records looking for any

575
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:47,799
inmates called Kisminsky, and he found only one, and that

576
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,480
was Aaron Kazminsky. Okay, at the time of the murders,

577
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,640
Aaron lived in the area, and he lived in two

578
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,559
different places, both of which were really close to the

579
00:29:58,599 --> 00:29:59,680
sites of the murders.

580
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: And the description I.

581
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Guess by the asylum that he stayed, was kept in

582
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:09,880
until he died, by the way, he died in an asylum.

583
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Oh really, Yeah, Aaron Kinsky died in an insane asylum.

584
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: That someone him.

585
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: That he was at some point forced to be. Okay,

586
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:19,559
did he get lononomized?

587
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: Uh no, he didn't. I'll get into that a little bit,

588
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,400
but he did not. Aaron Kazminsky's symptoms indicate I don't

589
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,799
think they wrote this at the time. I don't know

590
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:31,680
if it was a thing at the time, but they

591
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,039
the symptoms they did write down indicate that he probably

592
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:35,279
had paranoid schizophrenia.

593
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:42,519
Speaker 2: There's a checking checking boxes, hates women. Here's voices also

594
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,640
seems easy to limit. Now you he's institutionalized. We have

595
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:49,200
records of when he was and then there was no

596
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:50,160
murder after.

597
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, well the murders. He was institutionalized after the

598
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,640
murders had edited.

599
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

600
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: But like years after that, a couple of years after

601
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,599
the murders headed it, the murders just stopped.

602
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,119
Speaker 3: Right right, So when he went in.

603
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,559
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they stopped before that, like it just stopped happening.

604
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:11,119
I think maybe there was too much heat. They finally

605
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,039
had someone police Whitechappel.

606
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: And I think his name was out there, do.

607
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

608
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,279
Speaker 5: Because Minsky was out there at least in the like

609
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,400
rumblings in the town.

610
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,759
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, or like a threshold of craziness

611
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:25,000
that you can no longer murder.

612
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: So when he was writing he's too incompetent, he's too

613
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,119
crazy to kill.

614
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:30,839
Speaker 5: At that point, when he was doing BTK stuff like

615
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,519
writing letters to the police and stuff, they had no idea.

616
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,759
Speaker 3: He was like, oh, they say I'm a doctor the

617
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:39,920
boss letters. Yeah yeah, and they say I'm a doctor,

618
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:40,240
ha ha.

619
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:44,799
Speaker 5: And then when they finally got a little bit closer

620
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:46,359
to him, I think it's.

621
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: When he was like, oh shit, ad.

622
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 5: Because he was playing with them when they like had

623
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:54,880
no idea and at first was just killing, but eventually

624
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:57,160
started fully mutilating, pulling, like.

625
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: Because at first the killings were just basically killing, like

626
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,279
a throat slitting.

627
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,519
Speaker 2: And off into the night. But eventually he started pulling

628
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,480
organs out.

629
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 5: Dude, eyelids, fucking ears like everything, all.

630
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,079
Speaker 1: Kinds of wacky shit, real cool shit. Now, do you

631
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,039
believe even though they've caught this man, do.

632
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,559
Speaker 2: You believe it was just one person?

633
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:24,039
Speaker 5: I believe they attributed a couple things to him that

634
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:24,920
may not have been in.

635
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: Okay, because I believe the official ripper count.

636
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,039
Speaker 5: Was eleven, right, and I think some of the early

637
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:37,240
ones that weren't that bad or like prostitutes killed, they

638
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,359
attributed to him, which I don't think.

639
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,799
Speaker 2: Could have been. Yeah, I don't think he was alone.

640
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:44,519
Speaker 3: War at that time.

641
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: Like you know, no, are we asking the right questions though?

642
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:53,119
Was he a CIA asset? Did he work for the massade? Yes?

643
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:59,559
Speaker 1: I think perhaps maybe totally blanking on the on the

644
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,079
name of the program with the lsd oh.

645
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a war Wood. He was what was.

646
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,039
Speaker 1: The mk alter, Yes, he was mkult the first mk

647
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,559
Ultra and by the way, it was just Mercury though

648
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,599
to his head he was Rennick.

649
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 5: So he was running around telling everyone that he was

650
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:17,319
working for Yeah.

651
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:18,799
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think that's how they knew

652
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,160
he hated women, because at some point he just had

653
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,079
a pub or something and he's like, oh I I, oh, well,

654
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:25,839
I guess you're not British, but I was gonna go British.

655
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh I hat Oh fucking sluts, they're old. Time a

656
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,599
woman walked past something, he just made a screech, right.

657
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 5: If he didn't have any money, and they were like

658
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,640
he wanted he was an insult, a little bit of

659
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,279
an insult maybe of like because like, by the way,

660
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,039
wars everywhere at this time in miss Town. Yeah, a

661
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:54,240
lot of women on there, you know, down trodden uh

662
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,119
dunes have left. Alcoholics need a way to make money

663
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,000
in that time.

664
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,359
Speaker 3: It's either the mom's, the whites whatever out.

665
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

666
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: You can either go work in a factory and get

667
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,159
like a shekel a day and then get sucked into machinery,

668
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,320
or you can make a pound a day at night.

669
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, factory jobs are for the children.

670
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,679
Speaker 2: I agree with that. They can get in the small crevices.

671
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,920
They can get them, their little fingers can get.

672
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,519
Speaker 1: The notes from the assistant to constable also said that

673
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:33,119
kauz Minsky indulge in quote solitary vices, and Anderson wrote

674
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:39,159
in his memoirs that his suspect had unmentionable vices, both

675
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:47,559
of which matched the claim that Aaron Kazminsky committed self abuse.

676
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 3: That's in quotes.

677
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, self abuse.

678
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: The masters, well he jerked off a lot, that's what

679
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,519
they could, yes at the time.

680
00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:01,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, meta sounds like self that's self care.

681
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: Self care.

682
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, these days, I thought you were gonna be like, oh,

683
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:06,760
we get the Nine Tales and was just like lashing himselves.

684
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,639
Speaker 3: Dude, ship was fucking crazy back then.

685
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why the key breaks it plasly Lonster, the

686
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:15,679
rookie numbers.

687
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, the stories that you wtes you because they're

688
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,159
always around this time. Yeah, it's just the real examination

689
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,519
of just his how fucking occurs and different and weird.

690
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: Things like you could literally wow.

691
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:36,599
Speaker 6: That long ago it was so well he's.

692
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,559
Speaker 1: But isn't it funny Like we do an episode on

693
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:40,920
Teddy Roosevelt and we're like the Guilded Age, the eight

694
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,480
gen Age, the exact same time, Like this guy masturbates,

695
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:49,480
he's insane, he's self abused. What you could probably have

696
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,360
that used against you in court, Like, isn't it true?

697
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,599
Speaker 3: Self abused?

698
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 10: She self abuse regularly, so and everyone's like, oh, like

699
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:07,039
but everyone's up, but they're like, I would never.

700
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,679
Speaker 6: What's also around the same time that where it'd be

701
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:11,920
like fourteen people in the same family and a one

702
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,239
bedroom apartment. Yes, yeah, so yeah, it is a little

703
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,039
weird if he's just cranking it in the corner.

704
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess there is no private bath for really

705
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,519
to do anything.

706
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: There's some people in these bunk houses that would sleep

707
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,360
tied to ropes so they wouldn't fall out. Yeah, if

708
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,320
there was no room to like lay it down.

709
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,199
Speaker 1: That's how that's how the term hangover came about, because

710
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,679
you're so drunk that they would tie you or you

711
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:37,440
would like sleep basically on a rope. You could find

712
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,280
like a place to sleep for the night, and it

713
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,960
would just be on a rope. Yeah, because you don't

714
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,840
want to sleep on the ground.

715
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: I guess there's it's anywhere. I swear to God.

716
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:54,639
Speaker 1: The last detail about uh. They all they claimed that

717
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:58,400
the Kizminsky killer died before nineteen nineteen, but Air and Kizminsky,

718
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,960
according to records, lived until nineteen nineteen.

719
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: Died in the insane.

720
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: Asylum, and the only person whoever had a good view

721
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:14,400
of the murderer identified kauz Minsky. But the police class

722
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,239
am of the police claim. I believe Anderson was Yeah,

723
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,800
Anderson lamb in his memoirs, it was not possible to

724
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,679
prosecute him because the witness and the culprit were both Jews,

725
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,960
and Jews were not willing to testify against each other, so.

726
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: They did kind of know.

727
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, But other police were like, that's bullshit, okay, Like

728
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,639
he's like the Jewish people would absolutely, absolutely did testify

729
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:40,320
against each other.

730
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would say that, Okay, So

731
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,239
Anderson wrote that.

732
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,639
Speaker 1: So that is probably a literally untrue thing that Anderson

733
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:55,719
wrote in his memoir that named kauz Minsky the killer. Now, interestingly,

734
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:03,519
maybe in Kazminsky's defense, Aaron Kazminski's defense, when he was

735
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:08,760
in the asylum, he was described as harmless once he

736
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,239
was there.

737
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: Now he was taken to the asylum, I actually forgot that.

738
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,679
I did. We do know why he was taking the asylum.

739
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,840
He had been taken into custody for threatening.

740
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: Either his sister or the sister of a witness with

741
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,760
a knife, women.

742
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: Going to what I don't know, Okay, but.

743
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: He was threatening a woman, either his sister or so

744
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,559
maybe there's someone else seeing him act crazy.

745
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:36,119
Speaker 2: He was threatening them with a knife and was arrested

746
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:37,239
and just never let out a care.

747
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,119
Speaker 3: He's just not fitting the profile.

748
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: They found. Are we convinced a lot of people aren't?

749
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 5: There has been putting it, Okay, if I go, I

750
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,119
don't know, dude, because.

751
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:03,079
Speaker 11: The profile of like the Ripper eluded people for a

752
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,599
very long time, was precise in and out, didn't get caught,

753
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,159
not dumb writing letters?

754
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,559
Speaker 2: Do we think the letters were from the Ripper? Because

755
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:17,840
that happens, right?

756
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you said he's a skitzo, so he has

757
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000
multiple personalities.

758
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: Maybe one's really clever.

759
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,119
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just fucking uh what's his name from split

760
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,280
James McAvoy?

761
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,159
Speaker 3: This just isn't.

762
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, it doesn't.

763
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,079
Speaker 1: I don't know what his skills were as a barber

764
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,360
and with cutting and stuff like that, But.

765
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

766
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm not getting the if literally eviscerating corpses, this crazy.

767
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: Person can't not get caught, do you know what I mean?

768
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,519
Like a crazy person is also slung a crazy person?

769
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:59,559
Speaker 3: What's like with the Night Sisters and stuff like, perhaps.

770
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 6: He came across some body that was already you know, killed,

771
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:05,519
and he just jacked off on it because he hates women.

772
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, or he had sex.

773
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,039
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I

774
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:13,480
don't know.

775
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: He was he was.

776
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,519
Speaker 1: Just unlucky, bad luck chuck. Every prostitute he banged as

777
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:23,199
um murdered.

778
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: But how do we know that all of all of

779
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:27,800
that he banged all of.

780
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,119
Speaker 2: Those Otherwise, I don't know. And I on one scarf,

781
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:32,119
D one scarf.

782
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 6: I am curious you're saying he's the perfect fall guy.

783
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: There's there's another thing.

784
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't remember if I put this in my notes

785
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,400
or not, but I did find this.

786
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,519
Speaker 2: Oh no, it is right here.

787
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 5: It is right.

788
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,519
Speaker 6: It sounds like you just want the Ripper to be

789
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,480
a little bit more sexydicated.

790
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 2: Yea special like a Johnny dub. Yeah, yeah, I got

791
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,440
a dead sweety top. Oh I thought you were referencing

792
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:01,679
Johnny dem was in a jacked Yes exactly, but he was.

793
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: I just want I if you go.

794
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,039
Speaker 7: Through all the different cases.

795
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 5: And everything, he does not like he doesn't read as

796
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:21,079
just a crazy psycho person, right, He reads as someone

797
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:26,360
as someone that cannot, like, you know, squash the urge.

798
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: To which is how you when you talk when you

799
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:32,039
see like interviews with later serial killers, they're not crazy.

800
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:35,559
Speaker 5: I mean that's how they're able to get away with

801
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:38,800
it is because like they're very rationally being like this

802
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,519
is what I had to do.

803
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: One of my favorite lines from any movie ever. Have

804
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,239
you seen you Red Dragon? Right?

805
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, when Edward Norton's talking to Hannibal Lecter and

806
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,840
he's like, I had certain are you had certain disadvantages?

807
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,599
Speaker 2: And Hannibal Lecters like watch of them, and bed Norton

808
00:41:58,639 --> 00:41:59,239
just be goes.

809
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:04,639
Speaker 1: You're insane, right, but like he's clearly still the smartest

810
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:06,280
person in every room exactly.

811
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: But you get caught right because.

812
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: You're yeah, you're given to the sge part of it.

813
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, you eventually keep going. I agree with you. There's

814
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:21,119
a certain lack of cleanliness with this person. Yeah, it's

815
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,679
a lack of precision. Yes, I think.

816
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: Also, we can't rule out you said he found the

817
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,320
dead body and was like, oh sweet, I hate women.

818
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,599
Speaker 2: Let me jerk off. What if, as we mentioned earlier theory,

819
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:35,400
like we.

820
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: Said, he there no one has a quiet place to

821
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,400
jerk off. He really wants to jerk off. There's a

822
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,760
there's a room, there's only a dead body in it, and

823
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,440
he's just like, well, this is an ideal, but I

824
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,960
want to get the job done because I'm a self

825
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,000
abuser and I just need it right.

826
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,039
Speaker 5: He would have to find them in the fields, though

827
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,840
I don't think they are in rooms, right, some.

828
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: Of them were some of them, I don't you know

829
00:42:59,360 --> 00:42:59,760
better than me.

830
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 4: I thought like alleys either word outside, yeah, behind.

831
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,639
Speaker 3: Where there were found. Yeah, like the blood is like

832
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:11,320
draining into But anyway, so.

833
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:20,519
Speaker 1: Here's another problem with kauz Minsky. Potentially in the asylum.

834
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,639
Kazminsky preferred to speak Yiddish, which was his native language.

835
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: He was not a native English speaker.

836
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: Obviously, in the cases, English might have not been that great,

837
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,000
which means he would have had trouble, or maybe it's

838
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,440
been straight up not able to persuade the English speaking

839
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:42,800
victims into dark alleyways, as the ripper was alleged to

840
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,400
em dust sure, you dumb.

841
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:48,639
Speaker 2: You gum, Yes, what you want?

842
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

843
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:56,159
Speaker 5: They were a lot of them, well, I think one

844
00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:58,039
of them was it, But most of the women were

845
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,719
really pretty falled out drunk.

846
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: Okay a lot of the times, so easy to.

847
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:09,679
Speaker 2: Just be like glum glumb globe. I just imagine they

848
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:11,159
were high on opium in the entire time.

849
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 5: That was more of a rich person's game, right, because

850
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,920
you have to go to the doctor get it.

851
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: I think it was all the street. My only knowledge

852
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,639
of that is dead wood.

853
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:23,079
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so it was just free flowid.

854
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,159
Speaker 2: At the same time. Oh, were they doing opium? Bone

855
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,079
spoonfuls of opium? Yeah.

856
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: He watched Bone Tabahawk for the first time last night

857
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:34,519
and it disturbed him as.

858
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: Much that would.

859
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 6: I uh, I have a new found fear. And it's

860
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,400
being splin half by the balls.

861
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:45,039
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen? Oh, it's one of the great

862
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:46,599
death scenes in cinema history.

863
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 5: It's got your boys, got curt in it, which is

864
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,559
just like i'd heard.

865
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:54,599
Speaker 2: It was very like, that's not what I haven't want

866
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:56,800
to go for. Is just a Kurt Russell.

867
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you would also, so fine, Matthew Fox

868
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:02,840
to be a little daddy.

869
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he's got a mustache.

870
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: All right, Fine, it's all your dudes in this movie,

871
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:11,079
and you might not be there yet.

872
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: Runtime's not bad. It's about two hours and ten minutes.

873
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:17,159
Speaker 1: Sweet, you might not be there yet, but I do

874
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,840
feel like eventually you will see Richard Jenkins as a

875
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,599
daddy as well.

876
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:22,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.

877
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's in that Well okay, sweet, but I

878
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,480
think you're like fifteen years away from being Richard Jenkins. Love.

879
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:33,119
Speaker 3: No, you think it's incredibly crare, he easily personally.

880
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: So a man gets first scalped alive and then they.

881
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: Turn him upside down.

882
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 6: They start cutting his balls and his dick off, and

883
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,000
then continue to cut up his groin and then give him.

884
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,519
Speaker 2: Half his tape.

885
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: They cut him so sweet and actually we're gonna be

886
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,559
talking about something like that on the Patrioch.

887
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,199
Speaker 2: Sweet. I mean the scene opens. The movie opens with

888
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,079
a throat slitting gone wrong. Love it.

889
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a guy is not very good at slitting throats.

890
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great.

891
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: It's a great comedic scene, like a very dull knife

892
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,440
and the guy's just like his Bunny's just like, come on, man,

893
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,559
so bad at this real quick?

894
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:18,079
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952
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I take that back. It is like a thousand personal

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got all the equipment you can ever imagine. You tell

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them that and they'll cater your workout to that. If

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you have a sort of a spartan home gym, they

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will cater it to that. If you're just like dude,

964
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I'm running and doing like push ups and sit ups

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and stuff like that, they will cater to that based

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on your goals.

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Speaker 2: They can.

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969
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fitness tips and tricks and stuff like that, way better

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than going to some influencer on Instagram. I cannot again,

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like like I always say, I cannot recommend fitpod enough.

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It is a total game changer for working out, especially

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I want to like add a little tone or whatever,

976
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,239
I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: And I don't really want to go to a personal

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trainer because hey, I can't afford it and be I

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just don't have the time. And that's where fippod comes

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in because it's like a personal trainer, Like again, like

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a thousand personal trainers, but cheaper than even just one

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personal trainer, and too obviously because it's in your pocket.

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It adapts to your schedule and like I said before,

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Speaker 2: So speaking English not necessarily a deal breaker, or not

1003
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,719
speaking English, I should say not necessarily a deal breaker

1004
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,400
on being able to get them. Maybe he just was

1005
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,159
like the strong, silent type and was like just like

1006
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:46,480
hand out, like FuG them. They're like a name miss

1007
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:51,960
Terarious Germany. I don't, I don't look at no, won't.

1008
00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: I don't don't won't it?

1009
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: Okay?

1010
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 3: Those thank you?

1011
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,559
Speaker 4: What do you actually look like? Was he a handsome

1012
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:00,960
fellaw Aaron Kazminski.

1013
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:07,559
Speaker 1: Uhh, we have a reproduction.

1014
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Sure that's good enough for men.

1015
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:10,519
Speaker 6: This is.

1016
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: The reproduction of him, not that he was twenty three

1017
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,480
at the time, by the way, so about as good

1018
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:17,559
looking as you could be.

1019
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:21,119
Speaker 2: Like he wasn't he wasn't weathered. That's another thing, though,

1020
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,639
I don't want a twenty three year old barber. Is

1021
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:26,400
that seasoned about? Yeah? I mean maybe at.

1022
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,119
Speaker 5: Those times they were thought of it as more like

1023
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:30,719
clet you know what I mean, Like it's more like

1024
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,840
peasant job.

1025
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1026
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:35,519
Speaker 1: It is like a poor person job. I mean it's

1027
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:39,320
a servant job. So like even a barber for the

1028
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,960
Prince Albert or something is probably still like just middle

1029
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:44,679
class at best, right, Like he's.

1030
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:45,679
Speaker 2: Not but he's not with server.

1031
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: No, it's not like how we think of or well

1032
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,960
not doubt you know.

1033
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan has a horrific take on on hairstylist. Yeah,

1034
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,159
at the venom that.

1035
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,159
Speaker 2: Came from all that was shot who. I don't know

1036
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,639
why either. I just I've never did it a hairstylist.

1037
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: It's just every time I get the chair, they piss

1038
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:10,760
me off.

1039
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 7: I'm a piece of shit.

1040
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 2: So, now that the news.

1041
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: About Kuzminsky is out in the world and people look,

1042
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,519
I think probably we'll give our final verdicts at the end,

1043
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,199
but I think we may be jumping the gun a

1044
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:31,320
little bit. But there are some people who are very,

1045
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:34,800
very ready to declare.

1046
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:35,559
Speaker 2: Kazminsky the killer.

1047
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:38,559
Speaker 1: And these are the worst people in the entire story,

1048
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:45,679
perhaps even more so than Kazminski himself. The relatives of

1049
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,599
the five known victims have pushed Scotland Yard to take

1050
00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:51,639
a fresh look at the one hundred and thirty seven

1051
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,599
year old case because of the information. Now here's a

1052
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:57,360
quote from one of the descendants of one of the

1053
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,159
victims of Jack the Ripper.

1054
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: We have got the proof.

1055
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: Now we need this inquest to legally name the killer.

1056
00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:07,559
It would mean a lot to me, to my family,

1057
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:12,639
to a lot of people to finally have this crime solved.

1058
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 6: So people aren't doing this out of the goodness of

1059
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,639
their heart. They're trying to free and clear their relatives.

1060
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: This is a bias. No, no, no, no, these are

1061
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,800
these are relatives of the deceased, of the victims.

1062
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,079
Speaker 1: Okay, this the first and only thing, the first thing

1063
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:29,760
I thought when I read well they want closure, Rob,

1064
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,960
And the only thing I can think now is that

1065
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:37,440
this is the most stolen fucking valor fav It would

1066
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,639
mean so much fai great great ant.

1067
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 3: Great great great, Like we don't even.

1068
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: Really know for like five five generations have been losing

1069
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:52,440
sleep over who Jack the Ripper is.

1070
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 3: Just you know, it's like it's like, who's the Goldman daughter.

1071
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 5: I just watched the Yeah, the Goldman daughter, the Goldman sister, remember, yeah, whatever.

1072
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:07,599
Speaker 3: Her name is, Yeah, yeah, she is, I mean tormented

1073
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:08,079
with this.

1074
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: At least it's brother, That's what I mean.

1075
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they are tried, and even then I go, girl.

1076
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:21,440
At this point though, at this point, you know, it's

1077
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,239
been hell many here.

1078
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 6: This is definitely worse than Rob trying to steal a

1079
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,800
ballot for his grandfather at.

1080
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: The Battle of the Bulge, which I was just about

1081
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,320
to Oh, that is so crazy.

1082
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,599
Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy and for two reasons with that. But

1083
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,559
what this reminded me of one of the things reminds

1084
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:38,119
me it's not so much. I haven't seen it as much.

1085
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:41,119
Speaker 2: In the last like I don't know.

1086
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,159
Speaker 4: Well, the craziest part was it wasn't even the World

1087
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:47,159
War two battle. His grandfather was at the other battle Bulge.

1088
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an underwear dance off competition in nine

1089
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,000
sixty three which he won. Of course he did defeat

1090
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,719
a German. Nothing I've said it lies. Yeah, my grandpa

1091
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,960
defeated the Germans at the Battle of the Bulge. What

1092
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,880
what do you what? Fact check that? Fact check it

1093
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,719
when I say that was a lot? Oh was that

1094
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,360
implying thing? Though? You were putting things onto my words? Uh,

1095
00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:13,000
but there was a thing online for a while I saw,

1096
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:16,760
you know, because people are all trauma, trauma, trauma.

1097
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:20,559
Speaker 1: It's like I would see people say stuff like we're

1098
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:24,039
still dealing with, you know, the trauma our grandparents never

1099
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:25,760
dealt with from being in World War Two.

1100
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 5: I wanted to just like you know, like sell the

1101
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,800
new thing of like the cellular trauma where it's like

1102
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:32,239
in your body.

1103
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:35,039
Speaker 1: If I could, I wanted to tron my way into

1104
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:38,119
my computer and then tron out of their computer and

1105
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,119
beat them to death.

1106
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 6: Generation How long generation of trauma built up in my DNA?

1107
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: How many great great damn damns?

1108
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 5: Is this.

1109
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 2: Six generations?

1110
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,519
Speaker 3: Six generations?

1111
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 12: They're not even a great They don't live on the

1112
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:06,280
same fucking continent. And by the way, physic believe the reincarnation.

1113
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,199
Speaker 5: That could have been, that's basically what they're saying, that

1114
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:13,360
could have been, Like I care is like basically passed down.

1115
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: You're having DNA nightmares about like all of a sudden,

1116
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,239
like they're in an alley, like they just have like

1117
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,960
a hot like a movie flashback, like.

1118
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:22,199
Speaker 2: Where am I?

1119
00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:26,039
Speaker 1: But it's fucking Assassin's creed. Like they're living in their

1120
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:27,199
ancestors memories.

1121
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: But it's just they're like and then they wake up

1122
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,159
and they're like, would be horrified.

1123
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 6: I'm just dying a thousand different ways, just in the

1124
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,880
worst possible Yeah, fashion.

1125
00:57:40,639 --> 00:57:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you pop in the animus.

1126
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,239
Speaker 1: You're in some quaint little village in Ireland and some

1127
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,360
weird ship with one big sale and a bunch.

1128
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: Of oars, and it pop up, pops up on the

1129
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:49,519
shore and you watch.

1130
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: Your fucking whole family taken into slavery by Vikings as

1131
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,519
your hack.

1132
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,079
Speaker 2: To death and you're like yeah, the and then you

1133
00:57:56,159 --> 00:58:01,239
wake up and you're like trauma. Yeah, it was why drama.

1134
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: Actually not a lot of people know this, but my great,

1135
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,719
great great Actually this would be a funny one. I

1136
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,559
forgot to tell you. That's on a crime quarter about

1137
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:13,840
bringing up now because this is it has to do

1138
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,760
with forensics, and forensics are funny to be, like the

1139
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,840
things they can figure out.

1140
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: Right, So there was this child.

1141
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,199
Speaker 1: I can't do a whole episode on softocore history because

1142
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:23,119
it's just not enough information, but it's a funny bit,

1143
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,639
which is they found this.

1144
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:29,039
Speaker 2: I don't know, million year.

1145
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: Old toddler, so like not Homo sapian, but like a

1146
00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:34,920
near ancestor of Homo sapty and it was like this

1147
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:38,000
huge find and they were like, oh my gosh, it's crazy,

1148
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:40,280
Like I wonder how this toddler died. It's actually interesting

1149
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,719
the pilot bones was he sick and they just didn't

1150
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,480
care about death back then because they were maybe a

1151
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:47,599
little more analysts or whatever.

1152
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: And then they did a little more forensic on.

1153
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:53,559
Speaker 1: Just how much the past is a night bear and

1154
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:55,960
they realized this toddler is still the size of a toddler.

1155
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,119
Speaker 2: Was like they were like, oh my god, oh I

1156
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:02,159
got it was a dwarf. He was eaten by a

1157
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:02,840
giant eagle.

1158
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:09,159
Speaker 1: It was oh, a giant eagle just scooped him out,

1159
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,280
picked up this humanish baby and like they realized it

1160
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,039
because they were like, oh, they were like, oh, the

1161
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:16,159
eyes have been clawed out.

1162
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: There's that.

1163
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 6: And the kid probably went up like fifty feet to

1164
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:21,400
a hundred feet got dropped on.

1165
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,519
Speaker 2: His right body right like this wonderful dragged.

1166
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:27,039
Speaker 3: It was Tuesday.

1167
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean?

1168
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: Like that a million years ago? Sure, that's in my trauma.

1169
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:35,440
I think red child. Maybe I have eagle dreams a lot.

1170
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 6: Whenever people are like we're living in the worst or

1171
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:39,880
the dumbest time alive, it's just like.

1172
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: You don't even out the Yeah, you're another fucking half

1173
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,159
of it. But yeah, all I could think, it's just

1174
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,280
like shut up, fuck up.

1175
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,039
Speaker 3: Seriously, seriously, I can't.

1176
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 5: I guess I was thinking it was like you know,

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00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,719
with the True crime boo whatever, or they found some

1178
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:04,719
kind of new you know, forensic or ways to like

1179
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,519
find DNA. They want to use it where they can't

1180
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:10,239
kind of like with the Golden State where they were like,

1181
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,960
oh shit, we can use twenty three and mets right,

1182
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:16,559
you go down the line, right, So that wasn't even it.

1183
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 7: It was the fucking two six times removed from core

1184
01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:24,480
gram band we just.

1185
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:27,119
Speaker 2: Want we just oh shareable.

1186
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,559
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, you wouldn't get closure, because

1187
01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:35,480
here's what you're gonna get if it, for sure is

1188
01:00:35,559 --> 01:00:37,039
Aaron commenced get.

1189
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: People like me to go. She was a whore and

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01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:44,000
he was just one of the fucking loans on her

1191
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:46,639
scars and everyone's gonna be like, I've got but I

1192
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:47,719
tracked the Ripper.

1193
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the closes be t shirts with Aaron kaz

1194
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,199
Minsky in every Anglo country on Earth.

1195
01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:59,719
Speaker 3: Like manson. You go like, yeah, okay, you can get.

1196
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: The Oppoie said to that you should never want them

1197
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:02,039
to be found.

1198
01:01:02,519 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: He's making sure of that. Sure that says the Ripper rule.

1199
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:11,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ripper ruled all right? So yeah that the

1200
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,639
relatives pissed me off so much? Did she?

1201
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,519
Speaker 3: I wouldnt think that that's what it was at all.

1202
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:20,599
Speaker 2: Closure. I'd be like, oh, interesting, it's a bunch of ladies.

1203
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 6: B uh.

1204
01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: So that is the story of how we may have

1205
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:27,800
the story of Jack the Ripper is what's I want

1206
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,280
everyone's verdicts, Dan is because is Eric Kazminsky the killer?

1207
01:01:33,159 --> 01:01:34,159
Speaker 2: I think we kind of get.

1208
01:01:34,039 --> 01:01:36,639
Speaker 6: Into a habit of trying to romanticize the past, and

1209
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:40,920
we want stories and narratives to be better than they

1210
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,280
actually are, and typically that's not the case.

1211
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,519
Speaker 2: He is for sure the Ripper.

1212
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 4: I am putting a stamp on this case open at

1213
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,000
chet Johnson.

1214
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 8: Who got I mean, I hear that, I hear them

1215
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,920
maybe you know, I maybe because of the movies and

1216
01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:04,119
way that we've heard of it, Leevie, it wasn't as precise.

1217
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,719
Speaker 5: Maybe it was a little sloppier than we were led

1218
01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:12,840
to believe. And only then would I be like, Okay,

1219
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,280
probably him. Also, I think they knew it was him.

1220
01:02:19,199 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: It seems like the most dam thing is they knew.

1221
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,159
They were all like, right, so it.

1222
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:30,679
Speaker 7: Don't be like we finally No, you're just finally saying it.

1223
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think possibly, But I'm questioning, like I

1224
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:40,119
thought I thought the DNA of faith on us.

1225
01:02:41,719 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: I also don't know, and I even thought, okay, but

1226
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:45,599
they didn't test the blood.

1227
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also don't know enough about the other candidates

1228
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,519
or potential who's your favorite other candidate?

1229
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: Butcher?

1230
01:02:58,239 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: The butcher does a do you have a name on him?

1231
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 3: Thou? No, I don't know.

1232
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: Okay, but there was a butcher who was a kid?

1233
01:03:03,559 --> 01:03:05,239
Was he Jewish? Was he a polished you as well?

1234
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: Because like I said, in this they said Krisminsky and

1235
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,679
then then another one just said low class polished you

1236
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,039
without being ann Oh possibly don't.

1237
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,159
Speaker 3: I don't remember.

1238
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:22,719
Speaker 7: But the butcher because he would both know anatomy.

1239
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:28,119
Speaker 5: And have a leather you know, like fit all the

1240
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:30,800
things of like knowing where to cut and stuff, right,

1241
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,920
So I thought that was kind of cool.

1242
01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: I do think the letters are read, Harry.

1243
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,679
Speaker 3: You don't think they're maybe from the person?

1244
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,039
Speaker 2: I think that's impossible.

1245
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 3: They were pretty brazen.

1246
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, somebody's trying to get some to have

1247
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,880
a credit for something they didn't.

1248
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: Do, like a different crazy person writing in Yeah. I

1249
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,000
mean you get that all the time now, like people

1250
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,519
confessing to murders they didn't commit. I mean that's a

1251
01:03:57,559 --> 01:03:58,440
common thing, oh.

1252
01:03:58,679 --> 01:04:02,039
Speaker 5: For sure, or like trying to copycat a notherly copycatting

1253
01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:08,639
just ting police and stuff. So I'm gonna say, yeah,

1254
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:12,440
it's him you're leaning beause Minsky to shut these fu

1255
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,519
up because you don't even know what you're like trauatized about.

1256
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: Where do they live. I'm sending targeted at of our

1257
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,679
new Aaron Minsky T shirt too, So like.

1258
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:25,599
Speaker 3: I'm glad you've got to have closure now. So y'all

1259
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:28,719
say sure, And it is a girl.

1260
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 4: It's all daughters and him living this.

1261
01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:36,519
Speaker 2: Bullshit.

1262
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,639
Speaker 5: They were sex workers, Okay, they weren't prostitutes.

1263
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 3: They were sex workers. What else were they supposed to do?

1264
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,400
So anyway, I met, what do you think? Are you

1265
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,519
ready to shut You're just ready to shut the case.

1266
01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: I lean, I mean you lean because it's a Semen fits. Yeah, yeah,

1267
01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:07,039
Stemen's on the show. All he did it, y'alla, they

1268
01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:08,400
were all.

1269
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,639
Speaker 2: Right, Jesse, thanks for joining us.

1270
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 5: Hey, thank you guys for putting up with my bullshit always,

1271
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:17,199
and thank you for always having me on.

1272
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: The people at home won't even notice.

1273
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: They won't I know that you're invest in this. Yeah,

1274
01:05:22,039 --> 01:05:22,760
the care will just.

1275
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:23,079
Speaker 12: Be on you.

1276
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,039
Speaker 3: The entire chap.

1277
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 2: Just gotta show the game, you know.

1278
01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:30,239
Speaker 4: Pop up one of the dead popped out from my birthday.

1279
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:33,639
Speaker 3: I'm go and get wasted. G went up that will

1280
01:05:33,679 --> 01:05:37,039
be your high. Yeah, hias read it.

1281
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: It's everyone's favorite. All we did tell people were like,

1282
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,119
don start with that one if you no, that's the

1283
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:44,760
last one you've watched. Yeah, you have to like at

1284
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,440
least do like ten episodes for you.

1285
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get the get the normal vibe.

1286
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,679
Speaker 4: I for sure can't get that drunk again because I

1287
01:05:51,679 --> 01:05:52,760
didn't finish the episode up.

1288
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: You know, I don't believe you did. I don't remember.

1289
01:05:56,639 --> 01:05:59,199
I was like I almost black noow. So it was

1290
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,519
just such chaos. I love it. But yeah, that's all

1291
01:06:02,599 --> 01:06:04,280
I got for. Oh, who's today's hitler?

1292
01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:10,599
Speaker 9: The red Bird, the family the name clutter for sure,

1293
01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:14,000
like shut your fucking mouth, to let the guy just

1294
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:16,920
sucking beat and die in the asilum, Like, shut.

1295
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,239
Speaker 3: The fuck up.

1296
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,599
Speaker 6: Hairdressers probably also hair dressers, just all barbers and hair dressers.

1297
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: I like that.

1298
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: I'll take that, all right. That's all I got for

1299
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,599
Damn Jester and Jesse Wiseman. I'll rob Fox. He just

1300
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:29,360
goes off there. Two.

1301
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:32,639
Speaker 1: I thought for an episode of the Earth title episode,

1302
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:33,960
uh title episode?

1303
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,239
Speaker 2: You do know Jack

1304
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: Nice No,