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Speaker 2: What are you most pessimistic about heading in to this
particular game versus the Texas Tech Red Raiders. Also, what
type of impact will the return of LJ Martin have
on this b YU offense.
Speaker 4: LJ will be playing, as I.
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and spent all my life savings on churos and popcorn
and candy and just things that we don't need in
our lives, but we do what we do when we're
there anyway, Toys, the tickets, the hotels, all that stuff.
Before I went to the mouse, I prognosticated that, and
Pete Bamble of ESPN he broke the news today that
LJ has been practicing he will be playing for the
Cougars versus Texas Tech. What type of impact will that
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Speaker 4: I was sorry, We're getting right into the basketball talk.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go amid co host, host, executive breacher.
Speaker 4: We're you know, welcome to Ronald the three man weaver. Ronnie,
how you living living good?
Speaker 6: I was like, whoa I was that.
Speaker 3: We will talk by want to know to start the season.
Speaker 4: Then one and all, a gritty resilient BYU basketball team,
not winning through the three point line, but through.
Speaker 2: Just getting high quality buckets, getting to the rim, utilizing
your athleticism. Keba Cata don't real. Fdd AJ was fantastic, yes,
but Keva was the elite. He was celestial on both
sides of a four footback.
Speaker 4: He was baptizing fools. He was baptizing those dougs on
the footback.
Speaker 2: And then da kinbay but tumboing potential shots right at
the rim.
Speaker 4: If Blake, Griffin and Ben Wallace had a baby, you'd
have kevia Cata. So we're gonna break it down.
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Speaker 4: What's up Brad hamber.
Speaker 6: Look, Pete Damil isn't the only insider breaking news today.
Speaker 7: My sources have told me Brandon Gurney was supposed to
be co hosting on the show today. My sources tell
me the reason Brandon Kearney did not show up today
is because he's boycotting the show as Ben went to
the Mouse this last weekend. So no Brandon's Gurney on
the show today. We'll see when the boycott ends.
Speaker 4: Gurney hates the Mouse.
Speaker 2: There's not a human on earth that hates Disneyland more
than Brandon see Gurney of the Daily Herald. He hates it,
He adhores it, and uh look we hate it, but
we love it. It's a love hate relationship because Disney
is a ESPN. ESPN is Disney, so you're forced, you're
forced to love it. You know, when you go there,
you see the joy of your children's eyes.
Speaker 4: You see the joy.
Speaker 2: You're you're vicariously experiencing something through their through their eyes. Right,
You're you're watching them just engage in a new experience.
You're like, look at the look at the little ones
having a gay old time, you know what I mean,
Like it's it's uh, it is tremendous, and my kids
loved every minute. Although my son was like I asked
him this morning, he said, hey, uh, you know, do
you want to go back to Disneyland? And he's like no,
he said no.
Speaker 7: I'm like, this is this is really good as in
because he's just like still tired out from going this
last weekend or does it ever want to go again?
Speaker 2: I think, dude, my son loves to like go hard,
but then he likes to get in bed by eight
and get some rest. And we were going to like eleven,
so every night he was falling asleep at the park.
We woke him up to go on Space Mountain. We
woke him up to go on Buzz light Year again,
and he loved Buzz light Year. But like, I just
think he's just he's petered out, like he's a little tired.
He's like, you guys go you guys. Like he enjoyed it, Yeah,
the Vignet's you know, all the things right, but I
don't think he liked Pirates all that much.
Speaker 4: The scary pirates. Didn't like Pirates. I told him they
were robots. I told them they were fake.
Speaker 2: Sure they do look real real though, Yeah they look good,
especially if you're, yeah, a little kid. I was like,
they're fake, it's all pretend, and so I had to
kind of convince him. So the second time on Pirates
he was okay, but he just didn't really like. He
didn't like the Blue Bayou we ate there, and so
he didn't like Pirates, so he didn't like Blue Bayou anyway.
There was a lot of things. He doesn't want to
go back, which I think is a good sign. It's
a great sign for me.
Speaker 7: I mean, so my wife and I we went this
last summer, and I will say, like, I love Disney.
I loved Disney. I've never been to Disneyland. I've only
been a disney World growing upcause that grew up in
the East Coast.
Speaker 6: And we went hard.
Speaker 7: We went three days and then we came home, and
I will say, after we came home, I was like, look,
that was so much fun, but I need like at
least a six month break before I go again. And
you couldn't pay me to go again. Because just to
his to your son's point, it's an exhausting experience. You
have so much fun that you're just kind of like, Okay,
I need I need to be done for a little while.
Speaker 2: One shout out to Vic Cram being here in studio
as well. Check out the rest of ESPN the fans
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postgame sown, we're gonna break down the BYU Villanova game.
Really nice matchup that ended up being an entertaining one
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Don't want to miss that the MVP of the match
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Speaker 2: So BYU men's basketball Game one was able to knock
off Villanova the Wildcats a little Cougar on cougar action
Timomore Ariba Arena in Vegas, seventy one sixty six.
Speaker 4: What a way to tip off.
Speaker 2: The basketball season for the Cougs with a nail bider.
It looked like BYU was in cruise control, up double
digits at some points in this game, and then the
Villanova Wildcats came roaring back.
Speaker 4: They were sharp shooting from the perimeter.
Speaker 2: We had difficulty closing out in space, I thought, and
in one particular.
Speaker 4: Player Peterson I believe was freaking amazing.
Speaker 2: He was he was in fuego. I don't know what
his percentage was, but it seemed like he couldn't miss. Sorry,
it was Bryce Lindsay, right, it was Bryce Lindsay seven
to fourteen from the field twenty two points for him.
He also added five rebounds in two assists. Lindsay was
on fire for much of the game. Sorry, seven to
fourteen from the field, at five for nine from the
three point line.
Speaker 4: Crazy.
Speaker 2: Uh, he kept this Wildcat team in the game, but
by you fat away at the end to pull away.
Let's listen in uh with with b what getting the
victory the Dubs seventy one sixty six.
Speaker 4: Let's listen in to k y Aj and the crew.
Speaker 8: It was quiet twenty one for you today, but down
the stretch he hit multiple key baskets.
Speaker 9: What was kind of working for you especially late there tonight?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean we were in the bonus and k
I was just telling me to keep attacking the rim
because I don't want to really foul. So just hasn't
to that advice, and I just try to get to
the rim, makeing plays.
Speaker 1: How to kind of feel playing your first official basketball
game now.
Speaker 10: I felt good, definitely definitely different from the exhibitions, but
it just feels good to get under my belt.
Speaker 3: I'm gon gonna win.
Speaker 9: Coach, what'd you think of as performance? I mean I
just thought down the stretch, you know, we put the
ball in his hands. He made plays, you know, So
his first game to be able to have the poison
do that I.
Speaker 1: Thought was impressive. He finally got his body in there
and got some offensive rebounds two which I was happy
to see. But you know, there's a lot. What I
just told the guys is, you know, to be able
to pull out a tough win like that in.
Speaker 9: The first team of the year, that's just a toughness
one stuff you can build on, you know, AJ, And
included in that, AJ, what can.
Speaker 1: You say about you?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: AJ debotsa thirty two minutes, twenty one points, six rebounds,
three assists. Two of those were offensive rebounds. By the way,
nine of eighteen for the field, fifty percent from the field.
They're one of one from the three point line, two
or seven from the charity stripe. We want to see
that obviously improve. He's going to have to put in
those reps. But overall, and an outstanding performance from the
number one overall recruit in this last year's class and
potentially the number one overall prospect in next year's NBA draft. Guys,
your thoughts for comment? Jarry on AJ to Botch of right,
you start Ronald the three man weaver after him.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'd just like to stir the pot a little
bit more. You know who else had twenty one points
last night? Twenty one on the nose? That would be
one Darren Peterson over at Kansas. Now, in AJ's defense,
AJ did it against Villanova. Darren Peterson did it against
Western Zimbabwe Dental College.
Speaker 6: I don't know who they patted last night, Green.
Speaker 7: Bay, Phoenix Gros step just above Zimbobwait Dental College. But
I as soon as I saw that last night, I
was like, well, I guess this little rivalry is gonna
be going all season long.
Speaker 6: As both guys scored twenty one on their opening nights.
Speaker 7: AJ was awesome last night especially, and I thought the
reporter who asked the question made a great point, like
a lot of those were big.
Speaker 6: Buckets down the stretch.
Speaker 7: The one that immediately comes to mind is that one
where he has the guy on his hip, spins back
to his left side, scoop and score. What I also
loved is that you didn't feel like A tried to
take over the game too much. I think they said
at half he was like plus fourteen and the plus minus,
which was a little bit shocking because again, like I
think he only had like nine ten points at halftime.
Speaker 6: It's not as though AJ just came in and said, Hey,
this is the AJ Debonca Show. Get out of the way.
AJ does a great job at like being the number
one recruit.
Speaker 7: And again we heard that probably plus or minus forty
five times last night. Oh, he's the number one recruit,
always going to be the number.
Speaker 6: One draft pick.
Speaker 7: But you never felt like AJ Debonza wanted to make
it the AJ show. He just made the right play.
And at the beginning of the game, that was throwing
a lob to Keba, which I can't remember if he
says it in this or if he said it in
his postgame interview, but he's like, yeah, Richie told me
that I was throwing these lobs to Keba wrong because
you actually have to throw it higher. I thought I
was throwing it too high, and Richie told me that
you can't throw a lob too high to Keba. I
thought AJ did a great job, but just always making
the right play. And sometimes that was AJ going in
getting the basket. Sometimes it was getting to the free
throw line, but some times it was dishing and getting dimes.
And I thought AJ did a great job especially in
his first collegiate game in Vegas on the biggest stage,
nastally televised.
Speaker 6: AH did a great job Boston.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was actually most impressed by his playmaking ability. Yeah,
I mean I figured he'd be able to get to
the rim. I figured his athleticism, is length, his twitch
would all translate to this next level, and it did.
What I was more impressed by was his vision and
how he got his teammates involved. When you draw two
defenders to you, you split them and you find an easy, peasy.
Speaker 4: Dump off bucket off the glass point blank.
Speaker 2: And there were times in which he was distributing the
basketball and BYU's his teammates missed those wide open shots.
So it's like, Okay, that's fine, that was a missed opportunity,
But he was still looking for others to make plays.
He's an unselfish player that wants to be a well
rounded basketball player so that he can he can be
a great teammate, and that is in this a.
Speaker 4: A breath of freaking fresh air. Ronald, your thoughts on AJ's.
Speaker 3: Performance, absolutely, but before just the Buggy guys a little bit.
I mean, AJ was nice, Darren was nice, but I
think CoA. Pete had the best performance thirty six eighteen from.
Speaker 6: Shooting.
Speaker 3: He dropped thirty beat number three Florida who won it
last year. So might have to give him a little
bit of love just playing a little bit more poking
the bear. No, but ag I thought I did phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Ben.
Speaker 3: I think he did exactly what he was supposed to.
My biggest thing that I love is how coachable he is.
In the postgame, Kevin Young's talking to Andy Katz and said, yeah,
I got on him by maybe taking some shots. That's
he doesn't need to take it. That's not him. He
comes down to transition to put the game away and
pulls up on a mid range and Kevin Young during
the time I goes right up to him and has
completely coaches him, and AJ's like, not got you and
then goes and doesn't do that the next play. That
is what makes you, I think, a talented player. All
the other things are great, but to be coachable, because
sometimes guys that are this high, you know, getting the
national attention, gonna be a player, you can't coach them.
Sometimes they're a headache. They got a lot of pride,
you know, ego, and AJ doesn't have that. So I
thought that was the biggest part about yesterday. He was
getting coachable and applying everything that Kevin Young and the
staff said. That's what stuck out to me the most.
Speaker 4: What did you have to say there? I know you
were trying to interject you sho was going off.
Speaker 7: I do need to talk about this Arizona game because
Ronald and I talked about the Big twelve media poll
last week, and I'm a man who can happily admit
when I was wrong. And I said this to ron
ron was there. I said, you know, Arizona really doesn't
bug me that much. There's no more Caleb Love in
the building. I think by you will be okay taken
on Arizona today or this year. And then CoA Pate
showed up yesterday and had the game of the night
in college basketball. So I just need to walk that
take back a little bit and say I may have
been wrong about this Arizona team. They absolutely earned my
respect last night and they will be earning the Big
twelve respect this season.
Speaker 6: Kevin with even without Caleb.
Speaker 2: Love, let's go back to the sound A J. Debonza,
k Y and the crew. I believe Richie Saunders was there. Sorry,
Rob Wright was there. Let's tune in experience you in
Las Vegas from the time you got here, you know,
the crowd being into.
Speaker 10: Us here two he said, the experience, yeah, oh yeah,
it was a great outcome. Obviously, we have YU fans
everywhere and they and they show support. It was it
was damn near a home game for us, the amount
of fans over there. So I'm just very grateful for
you know, the whole just fans here and you know,
the Mormon community to show support.
Speaker 2: Damn near a home game. Love the Mormon community coming
out and supporting. Love that AJ shout out to you, bro.
He like AJ has embraced Brigham and the Latter Day community.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: That kind of booies up the b y U Athletic department.
It's a breath of fresh air too. It's nice to
have an advocate here. You can begin to see why
the coaching staff and everybody else, all the power brokers
that were there at attendance. Remember Ryan Smith was there,
Danny Angel was there. The trifecta, if you will, of
power brokers within the BA athletic department. Brian Santiago, You
begin to realize just how why they went so hard
at AJ And what's great is Ace and his wonderful wife.
They were interviewed during the broadcast. I don't know if
you guys tuned into this, but Ace was the one
that was like pushing AJ to say, Hey, I think
you need to look at BYU. Don't count out BYU yet,
you think you need to visit And all we hear
now still, even when AJ's playing is the only reason
why he's at BYU is because of the filthy luker
the Nil and AJ consistently and Ace consistently goes on
record and says like no, like they weren't the highest offered,
they weren't the highest bider. In fact, we kept that
information from AJ so that he wouldn't allow that to
deter him from going to the place that he really
wanted to go. We just wanted it to be a
competitive offer. That's it, right, That's essentially what they've stated
on record. Yet you have time and time again adlers,
pundit social media warriors out there saying there's no ay
in A.
Speaker 4: The only reason why AJ's.
Speaker 2: Playing for byus because of Nil, a filthy luker. I
don't know how many times he's got to say it,
but he's been consistent from front end the back end,
and he's gonna have to continue to maybe disrupt that narrative.
Speaker 7: Similar to Joel Klatt, some people will just believe whatever
they want to believe, irrespective of whether or not it's true.
Because to your point, I did a video about this
the other day, and I had people in my comment saying,
oh yeah, like the data of the recruit wouldn't lie,
And I'm like, okay, But what's more believable the fact
that the parents are saying this, or the fact that
some burner that you found on Reddit is saying that, oh,
so and so gave him X amount of dollars. I mean,
it is a little ridiculous, but I think at the
end of the day, it doesn't really matter because b
what you got ajabonsa Iijedewontsa is happy to be at BYU,
and BYU is thriving because of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Who Sports did a piece on him, got
some quotes from Ace. Why would a player who had
his pick of blue bloods choose a program that that
last made the Elite eight more than four decades ago.
Why would the potential number one overall pick in the
twenty twenty six NBA Draft.
Speaker 4: Go somewhere.
Speaker 2: With that bleak history of developing pros, why would a
non Mormon from Massachusetts elect a highly religious school who's
infamously strict honor could forbid smoking, drinking, sex outside a marriage,
or even a cup of tea or coffee. This is
what AJ's fathering A Stabonsa, told Yahoo Sports. A lot
of people say he went there for the bags, and
yet Ace insists it wasn't all about nil money. There
was a certain financial bar that colleges had to demonstrate
they could meet, according to Ace, before the de bonsas
consider them serious options. The families asking price, per Yahoo
Sports was around five million, multiple sources familiar with AJ's
recruma told Yahoo Sports. Ace declined comments except to say
I'm happy with what I got for my son. In
an era when the sky skyrocketing nil market has made
college basketball more lucrative than playing professionally overseas, many programs
were willing to meet the Devons's price stag AJ considered
the merits of more than a dozen schools, according to Ace,
nearing his finalist to Alabama BYU Kannesus and North Carolina
before signing with the Cougars. In fact, I don't know
if you guys heard, Bruce Pearl was in the mix
right recruiting aj and and Jamal Mashburn inquired during the
post game about I said recruitment, and Bruce Pearl even
did like this alluded like, oh you you did it
like a pro. You held out like a pro. Hell
like that insinuates right, a little bit of like holding
out for the best offer. So you're this is gonna
have to be a point of conversation throughout the especially
like it's gonna happen and Ace is gonna have to
go on record, a j will have to go on record,
and it'll.
Speaker 4: Continue throughout the season.
Speaker 7: Mashburn is that that was the name of the Jaal
Jameel Mashburn. Jameal Bashburn was a bucket, by the way.
Ja I do feel as though like he threw some
backhanded compliments BYU's way, because he was like, oh yeah,
when I was at in school, I wanted to go
somewhere that was gonna prepare me via pro. But they
they I was taking it on as a challenge to
go to school there because they weren't very good and
they hadn't been very good in a while, and I
applaud AJ for doing the same thing. And I'm like, look,
I get BYU is not Duke, they are not Kansas,
they are not UNC. I get all of that, but also,
let's not pretend like BYU is like the equivalent of
going to I don't even know who a bad basketball
But I felt like it was a little bit of Wow,
good on you.
Speaker 6: For trying to take this no name mid major program
to start them.
Speaker 7: And it's like, okay, they were competing with Alabama for
an elite Like, let's BOU is better at basketball than
just some mid major, no.
Speaker 6: Name school that AJ is taking a chance.
Speaker 2: Well, you're fighting against the public relations battle of conference
affiliation and being on the West Coast and having low density,
you know, population.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's just is what it is, and not being as.
Speaker 2: As marketable for the television rights in those major metropolitan
Midwest East Coast South.
Speaker 4: Cities, right and and and so that's just is what
it is.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's right, Tom Massballer's right, It's not like
BOU basketball has been a dominant elite basketball program. They've
been good, they've been competitive, they go to NCAA tournaments.
They just don't survive in advance as much as they
would like to. But like to say that Boe basketball
is it said, that's a nice, little, nothing special program
and they're in the dregs of the college basketball world.
That's that's a bit falls It's a fallacious statement, no
doubt about it. So Jamal went to Kentucky though, and
was a first round fourth overall pick and played in
the league from ninety three to two thousand and five
along very good career. Was an NBA All Star, All
NBA Third Team, NBL Rookie First Team, and so he's
a good basketball player and was a bucket note most
definitely in college. Okay, let's get back to some of
the sound and then we'll call in a segment. Kevin
Young a JABOTSA, Rob Wright.
Speaker 11: A j.
Speaker 5: I believe it was somewhere near midseason of the Aces.
I think Sunny introduced us, and so you got to
taste of what the basketball fever and crowd is like
in Las Vegas, and you sort of when you got
here with the.
Speaker 1: What you sort of thought about that and knew that
the what Vegas was gonna bring it.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, I mean from from those games.
Speaker 10: Obviously, I knew that the Aces have a huge rainbase,
so I wasn't really actually expecting it to be like.
Speaker 11: What it was.
Speaker 10: But they showed great support, and I love Vegas for that.
Speaker 6: Coach Jo.
Speaker 12: As the game got closer towards the end, it seemed
like your team turned up defensive intensity.
Speaker 1: Could you speak to that? Yeah, you know, I mean
we were employing these guys to just lock in and
get stops.
Speaker 9: I thought, I thought, uh, you know, moo Davis really really.
Speaker 1: Stepped up defensively. I thought, all these guys did you know?
Speaker 9: Obviously, uh, Lindsay really got gone, so we didn't do
a bit enough job on him.
Speaker 1: But I thought, we we just found a way to
find enough stops there. I think that says a lot
about you know, our group more just you're you're playing
over the summer.
Speaker 3: What what did they do to sort of prepare you
for this moment?
Speaker 10: I mean, just playing in the offseason with all these guys.
Obviously we actually have returners like Trey Story and trempan
Hill come down there and just get some bumping with us.
So it just kind of got me better playing with
older guys. But I've been playing with older guys my
whole life, so I was.
Speaker 1: Kind of used to it.
Speaker 10: But it wasn't like how colleges were like twenty six
years grown men. So it was just good to just
get some older, you know, older people to defend me
in for me to defend So I mean, I had
got me better.
Speaker 2: He also mentioned this in the TV post game discussing
how kind of older tenured grown men keba uh, he's
Leonel Richie and even Rob who played in the Big
twelve last year, And then he mentioned Tray Stewart. He
mentioned who else did he mention in that? I know
he mentioned Trey that came in, and I know Trevin
Trevin was there too, So yeah, like they're you're only
as good as your mentors. You're only good as the
people you around yourself with. And being able to compete
at high one of the reasons why I remember you guys,
don't recall I was governing the Cougars at the time, uh,
you know, two thousand, like at the back end of
the of the Dave Rose era. One of the issues
was be Yu was in the West Coast Conference, okay,
and so and your non conference schedule was okay, as well,
it wasn't necessarily a refining fire. Furthermore, in practice, you
had some high level players and then you had like
these mid level players and maybe even a few low
level players, and so day in and day out, the
practices weren't as competitive and they weren't as refined. So
guys like Eric Mika, Elijah Bryant, a few others they
left early to go play overseas or in the G League.
Speaker 4: Okay, you only child.
Speaker 2: Tried to leave early and then came back for the
Mark Pope initial season, that introductory season of the Mark
Pope era. Because he's like, okay, like I could be
a second round pick possibly or an overseas earlyague or
a G League guy.
Speaker 4: You know what do I do? Right? I'm not a
first round guy, but like, I need to go get better?
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: And you get better by playing against better players. So
I love the fact that Ka he was bringing back
some of these older guys to run. And I don't
know what they get. I don't know what the incentive
is for them. I don't know how that works, but
it helps, it really does. And I remember, like I
remember doing.
Speaker 4: The Pope era. You know, some of the coaches would
be running with the team.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I don't know if Burgess would
kind of run with him a little bit, right, and
I remember they're trying to give him a good look.
You have to be in these competitive environments daying and down.
Otherwise guys are like, hey, I'm not getting better, I'm
not being impressed, I'm not being stretched, and I got
to move on. Yeah, oh yeah, Zach Sellias was here too,
Brandon Davies was here in the offseason. I mean, you're
running with dudes, guys that have made like a lot
of money overseas. Zach Sellius is like the MVP of
his league, Brandon Davies, who's been making coin for the
last seven eight years over seas in Spain at the
highest level of EuroLeague Play, winning championships, one of the
highest paid players, one of the highest played big men overseas.
So yeah, like it, it matters, it really does, going
against the grown men and refining fire. So that's what
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got the win over Villanova seventy one sixty six, number
eighth BYU moves forward, Moves onward and upward. Their next
matchup will be to host Holy Cross on Saturday, November eights,
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Speaker 4: It will be streamed on ESPN Plus.
Speaker 2: B Y, you shot thirty nine point four percent from
the field and Villanova thirty five point eight percent. They
did not you well from the three point line. Unfortunately,
b YU is no longer three yu. Are we gonna
be able to remedy? Are we gonna be able to
find our our stroke from the perimeter? What do you
guys think, Ronald the three man weaver Brett always bringing
the hammer?
Speaker 6: Any concern there all start?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think there's any concern, Ben, If I'm
gonna be honest, Look, threes will fall sometimes as not
your day, Richie Synder said, seventy five threes last year.
Not really concerned. I know people started at the beginning
of the season, But look, Ben, when I'm looking at
these percentage numbers, if you're able to beat a Villanova team,
the o they're figuring things out. Rob was five of
sixteen oh of three, Richie was one of four, four
of thirteen. You shot twenty nine percent from three to
thirty nine percent from the field, and you Aj was
booboo from the charity stripe. I mean, outside of that,
his game was great. I'm not worried. I think BYU
would be just fine because ideally, think about this Ben,
they were up fourteen and they got a little laxa
days ago, AJ, Rob and Richie. I think at one point,
if I'm wrong, we're all out of the game. That
can't happen because they got to figure out the bench
rotation and you were up fourteen, like you should have.
You should have won that game by twenty in my opinion.
So if you're doing that to start off, just with
the talent like this is like BA football. This yere right,
That talent is light years above and what has been
in the past, and you're doing a performance like that
and you just execute. Imagine what happens when you execute,
of how they'll be in rhythm and with chemistry. So no,
not concerned at all. Especially it's a non conference You've
got time before conference played a get it figured out.
What I am worried about. And this is a conversation
for a maybe later. You can't give up seventeen offensive rebounds,
and that's what I am concerned about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, is that gonna be an issue throughout the season?
You wonder.
Speaker 6: Very well? Could be.
Speaker 2: I mean with Kiva not on the floor, there may
be some issues there now coulde. Maboop is a good player,
He's going to be a good player. But is he
the answer?
Speaker 4: Is he the backup?
Speaker 2: Zadian did receive some playing time as well. And Yes,
every time I see Xavian State and I start to
see the Humpty dance, this is your chance to do
the dance and do the hump the Humpty dance. For
those that know what I'm talking about, shout out to you.
I think they look very much alike. And my crew
here doesn't know about the Humpty dance and they need to.
Speaker 3: Know about Sorry, I'm gonna have to learn about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you guys gonna have to know about it.
You guys know Humpty?
Speaker 3: No, all right, I don't know. I'm coachable. You can
teach me about you know the Humpty?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll send it to you, guys. Beautiful look alike.
There's a there's a doppel ganger. Anyway, let's get back
to the sound, shall we. Uh, let's get back to
the sound where we picked up or where we left off.
B YU postgame commentary from k y A, J. Dabonsa
and Rob.
Speaker 7: Wright able to get downhill and you know you're It's
it's very obvious that you're the floor general for this team,
But how is it getting this one game under your belt?
Speaker 1: I mean, even though this is your second year playing,
so really a new team for me.
Speaker 9: So to go out there our first game and get
a win, I mean, I'm super excited and I'm thankful
for AJ and coach Young.
Speaker 1: Right here, just trust me at the end to make plays.
Speaker 8: Coach, it was the seat of blue today in the
stands on one of the loudest environments I've ever been in.
What was that like from your guys for everybody's perspective
of just as the game goes on, the stadium gets
louder and you guys were just feeding off the energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's amazing.
Speaker 9: I mean, B WHYU such a special university because there's
everyone thinks b why you travel as well, But there's
just BYU fans in every city in the world. Honesty,
but we feel it for sure when we go on
the road. Obviously out West we feel it even more.
But it's just it's hard to describe it because I
feel like we.
Speaker 1: Have almost like a home court advantage in a lot
of places outside of the Marriott Center, which is really unique.
Speaker 3: Rob, I saw you've not in your head along with
everything Coach was saying just.
Speaker 13: There about this fan base with traveling fan basic you've got.
You played against it, so but what was it like
kind of having an entire NHL arena kind of rooting
you on in your opener?
Speaker 12: It was really crazy, especially in the second half when
they picked it up when we needed.
Speaker 1: Some big stops. I think they helped us definitely get
some energy and get those stops at them. Of what
can we be expecting from you guys the next few games?
W's and one more question, if you guys can pick
any NBA team to go to, what team would'all want
to go to? Whatever? Paton team?
Speaker 12: Thank you guys, Kevin, You guys only took seventeen to
three pointers.
Speaker 1: Was that a result of the way they were playing yet?
Speaker 2: Or is that?
Speaker 1: Is this the new BYU offense?
Speaker 9: Heart to say honestly, after I think it'll be I
pick your poison type thing.
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to protect the paint more
than they did.
Speaker 9: That's what they did in their their exhibition name against Virginia.
But we have two guys and Rob and AJ, that
I think can get to the rim against any opponent
any night, and so.
Speaker 1: I think it's something that we will definitely get used to.
Speaker 9: But at the same time, there's areas of growth. You know,
it can't just be drived to the rim and just
throw something up. We gotta we gotta do a better
job paying decisions, and these two guys have been The
thing I love about both these guys truly is how
much they want to improve and learn. I think Rob's
made huge stride since when he first got here. I
think Aj even a halftime I had just whispered something
to him about I thought he was going in just
kind of jumping wildly over Brennan, and then at the
second half I saw I think you saw him being
a little bit more calculated with his drives. And so
these guys are really coachable and we'll get We'll definitely
get better in that respect, But I don't know if
it's this is.
Speaker 1: Gonna be a forty three point a night type group.
We'll have to see how it goes.
Speaker 12: And then I just wanted to ask about their second
chance points. Is that just a function of they missed
a lot of shots and had a lot of opportunity.
Are you disappointed?
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, no, fair, great question.
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not smart enough to do what their
actual offensive rebounding percentages.
Speaker 1: I'll have to ask my analytics down that.
Speaker 9: However, No, I love Brandon punked us honestly in the
first half and in the second half.
Speaker 1: I mean now Sappion said our defense was pretty solid.
Speaker 9: We did forced misses, but we got to do and
when we can't give up seventeen offensive rebounds.
Speaker 1: No matter how many times we make them.
Speaker 2: Miss Ronnie, I know you want to chime in on this,
your thoughts on the most recent comments from Ky and
some of the questions they're reimposed.
Speaker 3: Great question about Jay Drew you no, but this is
what I was talking about, what I hinted about earlier
when I said, you know, offensive rebounds being a problem
seventeen now I think was the bigger issue. I know
you had some up and downs. That's a part of basketball.
Roller coaster. But the seventeen offensive rebounds, like you mentioned,
when Cable goes off the floor, that's like, okay, well
who is gonna step up? What are you gonna do?
How are you gonna challenge yourself? And they challenge themselves late,
But again Cable was in the game. Now you hope
that he just knocked knees, like the broadcast said, can't
be having that game one?
Speaker 6: You can't.
Speaker 3: You hope that doesn't happen. He's your best defender. I
do believe that right now. But I mean that's like
Kevin Young was right, they punked them in great question
by Jay Drew. But I just thought that the times
Baus faltered last year been where they lost games is
when they got killed on the glass. And when you
allow a team to grab seventeen offensive rebounds. Sure, Villanovo's
ten of thirty five from three they were terrible, absolutely,
but a team did you see the dude from Arizona?
Did you see Daron Peterson? If you want to give Kansas,
if you want to give Arizona seventeen offensive rebounds, I
promise you it's not gonna go too well. For you're
gonna lose by fifteen in the second half.
Speaker 6: That to that team.
Speaker 3: So hope they correct that. That's an issue that I see.
You gotta get on the glass. Kevin Ung always talks
about that, and I said that yesterday when you said,
give me the identity of this team. Okay, well you
can't let this team, you know, grab rebounds. That's what
they want to do, and they want to push to
pace and temple slow you down. And then they want
to shoot threes. And that's exactly what Nova did. They
weren't able to execute, but they did a few things.
So Bwing used to figure that out. Ben, you gotta
get on the glass and take it away. And this
is where maybe losing Fus is a big deal. Fus
might not having Fus this year might come to Fruition
at certain points in the season because sometimes him being
coming off the bench might have been maybe not as
you know, it was nice.
Speaker 2: It was very nice because Keipa sits down and Fus
is just as good of a rebounder. He's got a
seven foot wingspan, he's he's plus u in the in
his reach and and look like like he was a
very good rebounder. Fus was a beast. He was a
double double machine and so that was a big time
and he was a great ISO player of the low
block and extended blocks.
Speaker 4: So goodness, was he a pick and roll monster?
Speaker 2: No, Like he was not very good there, but uh,
he was two thirds of what you would want from
a big uh. And so to me, it's not we
got to figure it out. It's Kadeem and Mehilo, you
guys gotta figure it out. You guys gotta figure out.
Speaker 11: And then.
Speaker 4: Everybody else has to kind of lift where they stand.
Speaker 2: And Aj, like like Kevin went out of his way
in the the post game pressure to say AJ got
to rebound, So I would say AJ.
Speaker 4: Also, AJ is.
Speaker 2: A big, strong, athletic dude, and he's physical, like when
he lowers his shoulder a little bit when he's getting
to the rim, like he's creating.
Speaker 4: Separation through physicality and athleticism. Does that make sense? Like
it's not just through.
Speaker 2: Speed and quickness, Like he's doing it through physicality. And
some of those kind of those delay, you know, impact
type of shots where he's having to fade away or
lean in and and fade away and hang and then
kiss it.
Speaker 4: Off the glass. These are those are really really tough shots.
Speaker 2: Uh that that that through which separation through physicality is
ultimately brought about. Any I just want to chime in
on this. So, yeah, they have to figure it out,
but there's certain guys that need to figure it out.
Like I know, Richie had seven rebounds, Keva had seven rebounds.
Richie's a dog there too. Kyle Collins were stated that
he wanted, you know, I don't know. I think I
remember he said thirty two minutes plus, like AJ, Rob
and Richie need to on the floor together more.
Speaker 6: Is what he said.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I can feel you on that.
Speaker 2: Anyway, there's a lot of things, more diagnosis to occur,
but it was a great win or resilient win.
Speaker 4: Do we want to end with a few more soundbites
before we go to break?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's keep playing that. Who got twos?
Speaker 4: Go ahead?
Speaker 1: Kevin.
Speaker 11: The toughness of this team, Hew Colfern, are you that
this toughness can show every single night.
Speaker 1: To be a much improved team on the defensive end?
All very confident that you know these guys, we got
some dogs in our locker room. Thought Kayla was incredible
in his game.
Speaker 9: I thought Canar Davis was equally his physical defensively.
Speaker 1: You know, I've said this to Aj at nauseam. I
think he has the tools to be one of the best,
if not the best defenders in the country.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm on Rob all the time about being
able to guard guys as well, So something we talk
about a lot.
Speaker 1: I think it probably shows in the way that we
recruited and put this team together.
Speaker 9: We felt like we definitely needed to take a step
up defensively, and you know, this is a step.
Speaker 6: In that direction for sure.
Speaker 1: And I had a question for aj and Rum.
Speaker 11: How much does it energize the bench when Kada is
coming up with those blocks and swatting slatting those shots
into the stands.
Speaker 10: I mean, that's crazy. I ain't never played with a
shot block like that. He sent stuff to the ninth
row talking about these I ain't never seen that before.
But I mean it gives us a lot of energy.
And I mean, I'm just gonna start forcing guys to
the pain they can make a decision that they want
to score them.
Speaker 3: Coach, last question right here, wrapping it up, Coach, you
talked about like the.
Speaker 9: Fan base being nationwide but specifically coming to Las Vegas.
Speaker 12: B y U guys having a history with Las Vegas
being down west and everything else, Like, how nice.
Speaker 1: Is it have this kind of tournament in this location
for you, your squad and your fer. It's amazing.
Speaker 9: I mean, look, I've been coming to Vegas for years,
you know, when I was in the NBA Summer League,
played a preseason game in this building before when I
was in the league, and so now doing it on
the college side, to your point where there's already a
little bit of a history with BYU being down here,
It's something I don't take for granted.
Speaker 1: And every time I come out, either at home run or.
Speaker 9: Road, I just kind of look around and just see
how many Blue shirts are in the building.
Speaker 1: And I mean I feed off of it.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm a washed up, forty four year old
dude just coaching, so I know these guys are feeding.
Speaker 1: Off of it. If by him. So, like I said,
it's a unique thing, and it's something.
Speaker 9: That you know, I think, to a man, everybody at
our university really appreciates.
Speaker 2: All right, there, you got the BYU Cougar men's basketball team.
Basketball team gets their first win of the season after
going one on winning their exhibition games, and look some
lessons learned and progress.
Speaker 4: To be made.
Speaker 2: But I do think that and Lenova team will be
good this year. And they are being coached right now.
Buy a new leader, right new coach. But they were greaty,
they were resilient, they were competitive, and they shot the
ball well down the stretch in order to come back.
The Wildcats were roaring back. But luckily for BYU fans,
the Cougars triumph. Let's take a brief time out.
Speaker 4: We'll be back.
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Speaker 6: Have you not heard the Humpty Dance before?
Speaker 4: Guys, Ronald, have you not heard the song.
Speaker 3: I don't have the first off here.
Speaker 6: As I like it.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is digital underground. This is from when did
when the Humpty Dance?
Speaker 8: From?
Speaker 4: I want to say late eighties, early nineties maybe woman?
When did it drop?
Speaker 6: Anyway?
Speaker 4: Xavian State looks exactly like like, uh he does?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Noah, I looked at the picture he does.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, the Humpty hump Uh anyway, I
think it was nineteen ninety, yeah, recording in eighty nine
and then uh before my time man. The single released
was nineteen ninety. This was number seven on the R
and B chart at number one on the Rap Singles
by the way during that time, So shout out to
the Humpty ans.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 4: Let's get into some numbers and some questions as well.
Speaker 2: Check out this number, okay, Bear Blachmeyer versus Jake retzlof
Okay this year okay, comparing and contrasting their statistical outputs
their efficiencies thus far. Do you think Boa upgraded, down graded,
or stayed neutral at the quarterback position this season with
Bear at the helm?
Speaker 4: Tell me why you feel this way?
Speaker 2: So Ba obviously a to zer right now, Bear Blackmeyer,
you know and it starts the strength to schedule for
bear forty six in the country per ESPNFBI one hundred
and twenty six completions to two hundred and one attempts.
That's the sixty two point seven percent completion percentage. He's
passed for one hundred or one thousand, six hundred and
ninety three yards. That's two hundred twelve yards per game,
yards per attempt, eight point four passing touchdowns to I
T ratio eleven to three passer rating of one forty
eight point five, tremendous.
Speaker 4: QBR seventy eight point nine. He's been sacked I think
nine times.
Speaker 2: He's rushed the ball in ninety four times for four
to eight yards four point three yards per carried, nine
nine touchdowns, his longest run of twenty two yards. His
total touchdown accumulated twenty Okay twenty Jake retchlow six and two.
There at Tulane Strength to schedule sixty fifth in the
country completions to attempts one hundred and thirty with two
hundred and eighteen attempts. That's fifty nine point six percent
completion percentage. He's thrown for one thy, six hundred and
twenty tw yards, two hundred three yards per game, seven
point four yards yards per attempt, seven touchdown passes to
three i in ts, his passer rating one thirty, QBR
seventy seven point six. He's sacked five times, rushing attemp
seventy seven for five hundred thirteen yards and six point
seven yards per carry, nine rushing touchdowns and along of
sixty nine so and he's tallied sixteen total touchdowns. Has
BYU upgraded, downgraded, or stayed neutral at the quarterback position
in twoenty twenty five?
Speaker 4: Ronald, where do you stand?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say they have upgraded. I do think
that right, And a lot of people say, well, we're
on both teams are exactly where they're supposed to be.
So the real answer has been we'll know in the
next two games. We'll know this Saturday when Billy plays
Texas Tech and the game after that when they play TCU. Right,
because the same thing happened last year, A no last
two games fumbled the bag a little bit, but I
still believe that they have the way Bear hasn't turned
over the football like Jake, and the decision making comes
down to that not fumbling the football either, because we
see it. Look what they did to Iowa State. Right,
you're allowing your defense to have opportunities to score special teams.
You're able to put up a lot of points. When
you stay within the Aaron Roddarks system. He makes you
look great. He gives you an opportunity to get drafted
in the NFL if you stay within the scheme and
you do exactly what you're supposed to do. When you
don't call your own number, when you don't need to say, look,
I'm gonna go check into this play. When you follow
the scheme and you just snap the ball and you
look to see what he's drawn upper schemed. When you
execute the play at hand, good things happened. And we
didn't see that last year.
Speaker 6: Times.
Speaker 3: Jake is a good quarterback, but you constantly want to
throw a tight in faith that you're not good at
sorry brother, like you're not that guy, and it costs
BYU at times. And Bear hasn't cost BYU a game yet.
He hasn't, So I think that's been the biggest difference
is he hasn't done that. His biggest tasking on Saturday,
and if he passed the test been on Saturday. I
think you can officially book that it is because Texas Tech,
I would argue, was a better opponent than the Kansas
better than you know, even Arizona State, I think last
year to agree with what they've allocated. So Saturday is
a big game and the Bear pass that test. He
is officially, in my opinion, better than what Jake Retz
have did and BYU did upgrade.
Speaker 4: Yes, these are my qualifiers here.
Speaker 2: Jake Retz Luft does not have the supporting cast that
Bear Bachmeer has it BYU two lane's a nice program.
Speaker 4: They've won a lot of football games.
Speaker 2: Remember the new coaching staff taking over for Willie Fritz
who's now at Houston doing great things and is number four.
Speaker 4: In the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: So like, they do have continuity and culture and chemistry
there and decent talent, but it's not as good as
the supporting cast and the complimentary foot ball that BYU
plays currently. So it's not apples apples in its entirety.
You look at the strength of schedule, there's some equivalency there,
but obviously Bear has more of a more difficult strength
of schedule. Statistically speaking, though, like you may have a
better run or to a degree in explosivity in Jake
rentz Law okay, and you know he's got better top
end speed, so longer runs, more chunkyardage plays. I do
think Jake has also improved obviously in his td' N
and T ratio. He's not making as poor of decisions
he was playing from behind versus UTSA. I don't necessarily
put this loss completely on on Jake. I think the
game was out of hand, and so they brought in
Brendan Sullivan, who was competitive with Jake in fall camp
leading up to the kickoff of the season and before
Brendan sustained an injury in fall camp, and Jake was
the starter and played well. Like Jake's a good college
football quarterback. I still think he is a good college
football quarterback.
Speaker 6: He did get.
Speaker 2: Benched this last game, but was that due to more
so like like hey, like, was it his bad decision
making or was it just hey, we're it's late in
the game and and uh, look let's get Brandon some
reps here.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's up to the coaching staff to ultimately
comment on it. I don't know if there's any postgame commentary,
but I'm taking all this into account, and I think overall,
like I think it's pretty neutral. The biggest difference I
would say for me, and I'd probably lean neutral, but
this is what I would say. I believe that Bear
Bachmeier typically stays within the architecture of the offense more
than Jake Retzlaw. Jake has, in my opinion, a slightly
wronger arm to push the ball downfield, and I think
he is a more explosive runner. He's a faster runner,
and so you get him out in open space and
he looks but again, and he's gritty.
Speaker 4: He's tough.
Speaker 2: I don't get a twisted like Jay can break arm tackles.
He's a gritty runner. He's not as physically you know,
linear getting downhill and maybe jumping into the end zone
as much. But he's still had nine rushing touchdowns. I mean,
look like he's a good runner and so.
Speaker 11: Like.
Speaker 2: But I tend to lean like I kind of sort
of rather have Bear now after I've seen eight games.
Even though I think I like Jake's deep ball better
and his arm strength better. His opposite Hash throws a
little bit better. But Bear is a much better intermediate
to short passer than Jake, especially for being.
Speaker 4: A freaking true fresh.
Speaker 2: He's eighteen years of age and he's doing what essentially
a red shirt senior would be doing with the supporting cast. Now,
we'll never know what Jake could have done at BYU
this season and what improvements would have been made, and
how much more he would have stayed within the confines
of this offense. But man, I can't help but think
that Jake is still Jake and he thinks he's Pat
mahomes slash, you know, Bret Farv and wants to do
some crazy things.
Speaker 4: Anyway, that's my thought on it.
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