WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.679 You created everything, what put a powerful being you are. 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.480 You did these things, but now you're in a human body, 3 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.080 you forget the power you have. 4 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:19.000 What you do is what the whole universe is doing 5 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:23.440 at the place you call here, and now you are 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.839 something the whole universe is doing in the same way 7 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.079 that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing. 8 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:36.359 You're doing doing what you imagination. 9 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:44.000 Welcome to metamistics, where you don't know what you don't know. 10 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:49.079 My name's Jonathan, I'm Sean and today is actually a 11 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:54.799 special episode. It is wonder Wednesday on a Saturday. So, uh, 12 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:59.240 there's that we couldn't do it this past Wednesday. It 13 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:02.240 was it was a bit chaotic, it was a bit wild. 14 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:06.159 There was still a lot of getting over and we 15 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:10.439 had a wild experience here recently, and it was kind 16 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:12.719 of one of those things to where, man, you just 17 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:14.719 really need some time to sit on it for a 18 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:18.760 little while. You know, there's just some things are you 19 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:22.079 can't put words to some things, and those are sometimes 20 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.120 the hardest obstacles to overcome. 21 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.200 You know, Yeah, dude, And you know you can try 22 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:27.599 to put words to it and you can talk it 23 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.719 out with somebody, but I feel like it's it's the 24 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.799 best conversation you're going to have is with yourself, you know, 25 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.599 when you go in and you have it's just you 26 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.319 and you. You know. And it's taken me about probably 27 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.280 until about now. You know, it's been a solid week, 28 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:45.200 and I mean I'm feeling a lot better, you know. 29 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:48.599 But that was definitely a visit to the shadow if 30 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:49.640 there ever was one. 31 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:55.959 Yeah, so basically it was Saturday night. So literally, damn 32 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:57.519 has it been a week since then? 33 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.799 Already it has? Yeah. I just right before I went 34 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.040 to go get an energy drink and everything else, and 35 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:05.719 I was thinking about it and I was like, holy shit, 36 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:07.799 it's been a week. I feel like I've just been 37 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:12.159 processing it this whole week, you know, so so wild. 38 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.680 Yeah, so it's only been a week. And so anyhow, 39 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.680 there's been a couple of changes and a couple of 40 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:21.000 moving pieces and everything as to why we had to 41 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:25.080 move it. It wasn't just because of that, but yeah, 42 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:27.800 so just to before we even get into that, for 43 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:32.159 anybody that doesn't know, we actually uh oh wow, we 44 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:36.759 got a cult member that came on over. Skunky, My dude, Skunk, 45 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:40.360 What up, Ben? Good to see you, Bud, welcome in everybody. 46 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:43.800 So far, it's still early in the night. The night 47 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:48.319 is is early so far. But anyway, the if in 48 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:50.479 case you're not like a listener of the Cult of 49 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:54.919 Conspiracy or anything like that, I am no longer a 50 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:57.479 co host to the Cult of Conspiracy, and that was 51 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.199 just wrapped up this past week, and I'm very excited 52 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:04.280 about it. I mean, I love the Cult of Conspiracy, 53 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.039 don't get me wrong. That is my baby. That was 54 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:10.400 you know, a little bit of That was my first 55 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:13.280 ever podcast, and to be honest, I never really expected 56 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.000 it to get as big as it did. It was. 57 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:18.479 It started out as just a hobby, you know, and 58 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:21.919 and then like with anything else, I mean, you showed 59 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:23.360 a little bit of love, you showed a little bit 60 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:28.000 of attention, and it just starts to grow almost uncontrollably, 61 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:31.400 which it kind of did in a good way. And 62 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.280 and you know, made a lot of good connections and 63 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:37.080 a lot of amazing conversations, a lot of great friends 64 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.520 that we made along the way and everything. But now 65 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:43.840 is the time for me to step into a full 66 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:45.759 time role with Metamistics. 67 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:47.319 This was. 68 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.240 Kind of been something that I've been alluding to as 69 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.199 to what I've been wanting to do for quite some 70 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:59.719 time now, so I don't know, probably maybe a year 71 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.560 ago I mentioned that this was like it's right around 72 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:06.759 the corner, it's not that far away, and yeah, so 73 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:10.599 here we are. We are full time on Metamistics and 74 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.000 very excited about it. I think it's going to turn 75 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:16.199 out amazing. We have a bunch of amazing guests that 76 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.519 are going to be coming up. And by the way, 77 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:20.879 I know that some people were, you know, they're wondering, 78 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:24.639 like what's going on behind you know, behind the cameras 79 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.920 and stuff like that between me and Jacob. Me and 80 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:29.680 Jacob are just I mean, dude, we're great. We're like 81 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.720 pickles and carrots or what's the saying. I don't know 82 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.720 what it is. Yeah, PE's and carrots, but pickles and 83 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:39.600 carrots sounds cooler. Anyway. Yeah, we're fine. It's just that 84 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.560 I wanted to devote more time and more attention to meta. 85 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.959 This is my true passion. It started out with the cult. 86 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.920 I think a lot of people, if you're ever having 87 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:54.000 any kind of spiritual awakening, you almot like everybody has 88 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.759 their own route to get there, you know, And for 89 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:00.399 me it was conspiracies, like I needed the wor to 90 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:05.040 shatter into a gajillion different pieces and in order for 91 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:07.439 me to see that none of this is what we thought. 92 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:11.639 And I did that episode after episode after episode, whether 93 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:14.480 it's the Epstein flight logs or nine to eleven or 94 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.759 flat Earth. I mean, you name your conspiracy. I bought 95 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.959 it all, I ate it all, I drank it all, 96 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:22.800 I lived it all. That was my life for over 97 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.600 five years, and I loved every one of those conversations. 98 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.519 But I just got to a point where I didn't 99 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.600 need my illusion shattered anymore. It was already an illusion 100 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:35.480 at this point. I was just building up a new paradigm, 101 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:38.240 which I didn't necessarily need. And to be honest, I 102 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.120 think politics are an absolute cess pool and I'm so 103 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:43.199 happy I don't have to talk about that bullshit anymore. 104 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:45.720 I hate politics. I never want to talk about it again. 105 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:52.639 So there's that. But yeah, so yeah, I'm completely out 106 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.639 of the cult. I'll still be showing up every Tuesday 107 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.079 night for the cult member live shows. I'm still gonna 108 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.240 be managing it from behind the scenes, but as far 109 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:04.759 as podcasting goes, I'm a full time metimistic baby. 110 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:07.120 Hey man, we're happy to have you you know what 111 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.399 I mean. I'm sure that the one is excited about that. 112 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.759 And like you said, you know, you put enough attention 113 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:13.959 and energy into something and it kind of just grows 114 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:16.560 into something that you didn't even know it could grow into, 115 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:18.480 you know what I mean. So what you did there 116 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.399 with the cult was I mean, just amazing, you know. 117 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:24.079 And but yeah, man, you gotta do what you gotta do. 118 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:26.959 You know, you gotta do what feels right. So oh yeah, dude. 119 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.959 Yeah, And you know there's certain you know, they say 120 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.519 you don't put Pandora back in the box, and I 121 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:35.959 feel like that's what we found over here, you know, 122 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.680 like we took Pandora all the way out and we're like, 123 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:40.800 we actually like her. We want to hang out with 124 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:41.560 her for a little bit. 125 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:41.920 You know. 126 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.279 It's not that we want to put her back in 127 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:47.639 the toothpaste doesn't go back in the tube, as they say. 128 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:49.879 Mm hmm. Yeah dude, And you know, we are like, 129 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:52.399 what choice do we have, you know, especially after what 130 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.800 we experience, which I'm sure we'll be getting into, you 131 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:57.439 know what I mean, to what detail, I don't even know, 132 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.480 but yeah, man, I'm sure we got some stuff to 133 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:01.160 share with them. 134 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:03.560 Yeah, Tonight's gonna be a wild night. We don't have 135 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:05.800 any guests, but I feel like what we're gonna be 136 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:10.560 talking about is already explosive enough, so just to throw 137 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:13.360 that out there. Absolutely, But before we get to the 138 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:15.920 next part, and if anybody has any questions, feel free 139 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.360 to ask. You know, this is a we're completely transparent 140 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.240 and open book with all this kind of stuff. Ben said, hey, hey, 141 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:28.079 I knew it. I feel like if you've been listening 142 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:30.639 to Meta long enough, you kind of probably figured that 143 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:35.040 that's where I was I was going. But uh, let's see. 144 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:38.439 Christian said, fuck yeah, I love this, my dude. The 145 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:43.199 White Boy Wizard love them, I love you, dude. Skunky 146 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.040 said much love all. First time here, Skunk, good to 147 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:46.319 see you. 148 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:47.600 Bud welcome in. 149 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.120 And the water is warm. It's quite warm. I would 150 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:54.639 say it's at least body temperature. The White Boy Wizard said, 151 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:59.279 I'm erect af get baby girl all to ourselves from 152 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:01.399 now on you go. 153 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:06.399 I'm so excited my pants can't hide me. 154 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:06.800 Rick. 155 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:15.360 Oh wait, all right, my dude, my guy. So yeah, there, 156 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:19.079 like I said, full on Meta, we're doing it. It's 157 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:21.000 going to be crazy. We're going to be going Monday, 158 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:25.160 Wednesday and Friday night as often as we can, maybe 159 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:28.560 even a little bit more often than that. And that's 160 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:30.879 even going to be changing given another six months to 161 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.519 a year. I don't want to go too much into detail, 162 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.440 but around then is whenever we are full thrusting, I 163 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.000 mean there's no I mean, it's not pulling out at all, dude, 164 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:44.519 It's just going to be full on, balls deep. It's 165 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:45.399 just going to be crazy. 166 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:49.159 Will be weak for sure. At some point I'll be 167 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:51.600 able to do more episodes and we will definitely be 168 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:53.799 full time in So I'm really looking forward to that. 169 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:56.399 And man, I can only imagine what more we can 170 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.039 learn after this last week and processing everything that I 171 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.200 I've had to process just after that experience. Man, you know, 172 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.039 it's only going to get better, you know. 173 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:07.919 Oh dude, Yeah, it's gonna get crazy. Well, and I'll 174 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:10.279 tell you so. As I was alluding to a little 175 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:13.440 bit earlier, me and Sean had a had quite a 176 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:19.080 journey a week from from a week ago from tonight 177 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:23.639 as of time of recording, and Ben said, what happened 178 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:27.279 to your beard? You know, I'm actually going to get there. 179 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.679 This actually plays into it because it's a whole thing. 180 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:36.200 It's kind of crazy actually. So Saturday night, me and 181 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.399 Sean decided to trip, as we do whenever we get together, 182 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:45.440 and it, uh, it started out already rocky, not gonna lie. 183 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:49.559 Sean was not taking too well to it at first. 184 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:53.279 And well normally, you know, you experienced that climb, you 185 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.039 know what I mean, Like things are starting to get 186 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:57.039 a little funny. Things are starting to become a little 187 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.360 bit uncomfortable. It's almost like the the frame and which 188 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.879 you view reality is starting to shift away a little bit, 189 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.919 and things are becoming a little more almost objective, you know, 190 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.440 like you don't have a whole lot of frame of 191 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:13.600 reference or a model set up for some of the 192 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.000 experiences that you're having. You know, just being in the 193 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:19.799 backyard and I felt like everything around me was just 194 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.679 a little too much, dude, it was it seemed kind 195 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.919 of chaotic, just the sounds that I was hearing and 196 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.559 the weeds kind of blowing in the wind. It was 197 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.559 just like so much happening all at once. And I 198 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:34.240 know that, you know, you would hear me say that 199 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:35.799 and you would be like, well, that doesn't seem like 200 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:40.360 anything chaotic. But when everything that you know, everything that 201 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:42.759 you understand. Like I said, like the models or the 202 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.879 things that are just wired in for your understanding alone 203 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:50.000 goes away all of a sudden. You're just experiencing like 204 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:55.080 almost the most objective reality possible. And that's the best 205 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:56.559 way I can explain that. 206 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:02.840 Yeah, Yeah, and objective objectivity is something that just doesn't 207 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:07.480 exist in the in the psychedelic world. Like that's gone. 208 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:09.000 It's completely gone. 209 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:09.440 It is. 210 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.679 It is absolutely destabilized, and we had to figure out 211 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.000 the hard way. Now, this wasn't even our first time tripping, 212 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.799 like we've done this, I don't know, plenty of times 213 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.600 before and it's always been an amazing ride. But I 214 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:24.519 think that there was a lot of things that were 215 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.440 really leading up to this that caused And they always 216 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.200 say there's no such thing as a bad trip. In 217 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.279 the moment, it felt bad, it felt quite bad, actually, 218 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:38.879 But after going through it, I don't know, I feel 219 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:40.480 like I've gained a lot. And that's what they say 220 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.240 usually is whenever you have a quote unquote bad trip, 221 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.399 that you actually learned the most from them, you know, 222 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.840 And I can personally say that, you know, just from 223 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.320 a personal standpoint, especially with this last one. So give 224 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:55.919 you guys, a little bit of a rundown here, and 225 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.120 it's for a reason, that's why we got to say it. 226 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:03.600 It's it's actually quite embarrassing on my part, but it 227 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:08.919 was actually so we started out Sean not really feeling 228 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.960 that hot about it. Normally it kicks in faster for me, 229 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.399 but it kicked in way faster for Sean this time. 230 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:16.879 And so he wanted to go outside, and you know, 231 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:19.559 we're we're just talking and hanging out and you know, 232 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.080 calming the vibes a little bit, you know, trying to 233 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.559 keep ourselves from losing our shit. 234 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.320 And through it, dude, you did very well actually kind 235 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.360 of holding my hand through that, you know, just had 236 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:32.159 to take a couple of deep breaths and kind of 237 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:33.360 try to take it all in. 238 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.639 Wasn't my first rodeo, so I already knew what that 239 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.759 feeling was, you know, like, and you know what it's 240 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:41.919 like whenever, because you feel like you're getting ready to 241 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.080 jump off a cliff, like and you ain't got no parachute, 242 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.279 you know, whenever it first starts coming on. And so anyway, 243 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.720 we're outside, decide to you know, shoot the shit with 244 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:54.240 Sean a little bit. We walk inside, everything's calmed down. 245 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.720 We start watching some music videos that John's wife put 246 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.720 on TV. And we're watching it is Michael Jackson thriller 247 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:06.559 video because it's nothing but like eighties music. And I 248 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.519 didn't pick that, but you know, Seohn's wife did and 249 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.600 it was fine. But the videos are creepy, especially when 250 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.360 you're chirpping. You you watching fucking Michael Jackson thriller while 251 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.679 you're chirping balls. It's it's a whole other level, right, 252 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:20.360 you know. 253 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.960 It's funny too, because like for me, like by that time, 254 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.480 I was already like feeling pretty chill and like everything 255 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.840 was just kind of happy vibes, and I was just 256 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:31.960 having those thoughts that you wouldn't normally have, like analyzing 257 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.759 things and almost observing them for the first time, like 258 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:38.440 just noticing how weird it is that just the simplest things, 259 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:40.720 you know, how we even sit down and watch TV. 260 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.399 You know, you're just observing people do stuff. And I 261 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:45.759 just thought in the moment, it was so weird, you know. 262 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:49.240 And like I said before, once those models in your 263 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.679 mind go away, the things that you kind of learn 264 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:54.039 to accept and it's just kind of ingrained into your 265 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:56.679 understanding of this reality that goes away, and now you're 266 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:59.120 almost seeing things for the first time, like you're not 267 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:01.960 really seeing it for the first time, but you're noticing 268 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.279 things for the first time. And so yeah, I was 269 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.080 pretty chill at that moment, you know what I mean, 270 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:08.120 just kind of laughing at certain things, like, oh, look, 271 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:11.919 like the funniest thing at that moment anyway, was just 272 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.720 talking about like the chore graph what is it called, 273 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:20.080 the choreographic choreography. Yeah, the guy that you know designs 274 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.200 the dance and kind of orchestrates it for Michael Jackson. 275 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:25.919 And I'm like, what an undertaking that would have been 276 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.080 to be the guy that's like, look, Michael, we're gonna 277 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:29.919 dance like this in this video. 278 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.440 But anyways, yeah, yeah, So it's a good time. We're 279 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.679 listening to music and everything, and I decided to get 280 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.559 in my own head, like almost almost tried to forcefully 281 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.000 make myself trip because it was taken so long to 282 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:44.960 come on. I decided, you know, hit that little primer 283 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.840 on the on the lawnmower and get this fucking party started, right, 284 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.039 And so I'm almost purposely trying to trip myself up, 285 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.480 which is a bad idea, and I don't suggest anybody 286 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.399 to try that. Yeah, yeah, And so I'm like almost 287 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:02.320 going into the the mandal brought set of my own 288 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:06.320 mind and just digging deeper and deeper and deeper. And 289 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.399 I got there, and so I told Sean. I was like, hey, 290 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.320 close your eyes, tell me what you see whenever you 291 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:15.000 go in there. You don't have to do it long. 292 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:16.840 It was just like a minute. 293 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.720 And so he did it. It was what you would expect, 294 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:24.039 you know, some some spirals in different geometric shapes with 295 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:27.120 eyeballs in between everything, which I actually looked into it. 296 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:28.879 Maybe we can get into that later, but that was 297 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:32.080 pretty much what I saw and was to be expected, 298 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:32.519 you know. 299 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.480 Yeah. Well, and so I told him to do that 300 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.399 because I was just doing it and it was starting 301 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.000 to like mess with me, Like I felt like I 302 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.879 was already starting to fracture, you know, and in a 303 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.519 like in not a very good way. And so and 304 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:52.759 so anyway, I get up and I go outside, and 305 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:54.960 I'm trying to walk it off and everything and just 306 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.799 get a little bit of fresh air, and I'm like 307 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:01.159 starting to lose my sense of reality. Like this was 308 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:04.080 it was almost as if I just smoked a shitload 309 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:08.399 of actual DMT and was going into some other realm 310 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:13.759 that I never knew existed. So I'm in there and 311 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:17.039 I and I'm like losing my sense of self, like 312 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:20.399 like hardcore. I am dissociating like crazy and not in 313 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:24.120 a good way, and it's falling from me fast. And 314 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.120 so I even stumble up against the wall. Sean and 315 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.480 Loren or Sean and his wife you know, said that 316 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:32.399 they had heard me like almost like lose my momentum 317 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:35.480 up against the wall and everything, and so I decided 318 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.559 to come in. And I don't think you went outside there, huh. 319 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.720 I was on my way over to see what happened, 320 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:43.960 because we heard the bang up against the wall, and 321 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.559 I was like, what was that, you know? So I 322 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:47.799 get up and I go back towards the back door, 323 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:49.919 and you were right there, like it looked like you 324 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:52.480 were about to try to come in, and so I 325 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:54.840 opened the door and kind of let you in and 326 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:55.960 and then you can take it from here. 327 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.080 So yeah, yeah, So I went in, and I was 328 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:01.679 I was really starting to lose it, bro like it 329 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.880 was I felt like reality itself was was pulling away 330 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:09.519 from me, and and I was struggling to even find 331 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.000 a little step back into it, and so I'm like 332 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:15.839 bumbling and stumbling all over the floor and I don't 333 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:18.880 get like this whenever I trip Normally, I'm pretty damn 334 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.920 coherent whenever I'm tripping, actually, and unless it is DMT. 335 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:24.559 But this wasn't DMT. No. 336 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.920 I mean, you're You're usually so coherent coherent that I'm 337 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.559 just trying to keep up with your race car of 338 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.400 a mind coming up with just the craziest thoughts and 339 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:35.880 ways of looking at things, you know, So this was 340 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:36.839 very different. 341 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:37.960 Yeah, yeah, it was. 342 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:38.279 It was. 343 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:40.799 It was a lot. So I come in, I'm stumbling 344 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:42.960 kind of across, and I just wanted to go, and like, 345 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:44.680 I felt like I had to throw up. So I 346 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.200 went over to the kitchen and I started to lean 347 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.440 over and I was getting ready to like throw up 348 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:52.519 into the trash can. I was just feeling that shitty 349 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:55.839 and uh, and I wasn't feeling very well. And you know, 350 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.240 Sean was starting to trip and he was starting to 351 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:02.920 worry about me and everything. Thank you, and and yeah, 352 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:04.920 he was like are you okay? Are you all right? 353 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:07.480 My body started to go limp, my face was starting 354 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.640 to droop, according to Sean, who was also chirping at 355 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:10.000 this time. 356 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:13.920 Who knows, you know, to what effect your face was 357 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:17.160 actually drooping, But to me, dude, it I got you 358 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:18.759 away from the trash can. I was trying to take 359 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:20.519 you over to the restroom because I just felt like 360 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:23.079 something was off, dude, Like, this is not how you 361 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.519 normally are during this type of experience, you know. And 362 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:28.359 I looked over at my wife and I was like, 363 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:30.359 is he okay? You know, because she's in the medical 364 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.240 field and she knows way more than I do when 365 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.039 it comes to, you know, noticing the things that the 366 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:37.079 human body is doing to look let you know that, 367 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.400 like something isn't right. And we were getting closer to 368 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:42.720 the restroom, and I was looking at you man, and 369 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:44.759 and you know, and maybe this is what you know, 370 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.119 what it's all about when it comes to like when 371 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.400 you have a shaman, you know, because I've heard that 372 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.000 shaman's actually will trip with you, and I feel like 373 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.880 they will see things that you wouldn't normally see, like 374 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.000 if you were just sober and kind of you know, 375 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:01.319 cool minded or whatever. But I felt like when I 376 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:03.720 looked at your face, it was kind of it looked droopy, 377 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.599 you know, in your mouth, the way that it looked 378 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:09.279 and everything else was just like you weren't here, you 379 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:10.799 know what I mean, Like you were here, like you 380 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:14.160 were trying to be And that's what was even scarier. 381 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.599 I'll hang it on all and like the tony of 382 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.200 your voice and the look on your face was like 383 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:23.599 you were trying to hold on to this place and 384 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:25.599 you were going fast. Well it was. 385 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:28.480 It was scary, dude, you know. And I was. I was, 386 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:32.920 legit having like a full on inner world panic attack. 387 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:35.640 It was the most fear I have ever felt my 388 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:39.680 entire life. So it was literally crippling fear. Like I'm 389 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:45.440 not even exaggerating, like I legit, I was so fucking scared, dude. 390 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.000 Like it was the most scared I've ever been in 391 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.640 my life. And I can't imagine anybody else having to 392 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:54.039 handle that. Maybe other people, I'm sure other people have 393 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:56.400 felt that kind of fear, but for me, that was 394 00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:59.440 the most I've ever felt, and it was continuous. It 395 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:01.640 was something that I couldn't even talk myself out of. 396 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.759 There was no amount of like love and light that 397 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.519 I could have said. I couldn't have sat down and meditated, 398 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:10.079 because whenever I was sitting down and meditated, I was 399 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.599 still tripping. I was actually tripping even harder, and there 400 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:15.400 was just no getting out of it. And so in 401 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.359 my mind, what was causing such a destruction inside of 402 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:20.839 my mind is that I was really starting to lose 403 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:24.559 all sense of this reality. And even more so, I 404 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:27.200 was understanding that this reality, at least in that moment, 405 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:32.720 that this reality was barely even a dream like it 406 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:35.799 like it was gone, like it was done, like this 407 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:37.920 reality not even just for me. But it was almost 408 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:42.160 like I was able to see behind the screen that 409 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:46.599 the simulation is played on in so much of a way, right, 410 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:49.240 And it was I couldn't understand what I was seeing, 411 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:52.240 and it was causing such immense fear. And all I 412 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.640 kept on seeing was is that I was seeing, like imagine, 413 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:00.839 all of reality, all of the reality that you see 414 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:05.880 on just a flat piece of glass, maybe even a mirror, right. 415 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.680 And as I'm looking at that, it starts to splinter, 416 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:12.440 and then it starts to break, and all the pieces 417 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:16.079 are mixing up and everything, and I'm on every single 418 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:20.519 one of those splintered shards of mirror, and I'm trying 419 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:22.519 to work it all back together, but I'm losing it, 420 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:26.680 and and my my perception kept on going from I 421 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:28.960 was every piece of glass, and then I was just 422 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:30.880 a tiny piece of glass, and then maybe I was 423 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.000 three pieces of glass, and then I was the whole thing, 424 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:36.079 and then it was just fucking with me hard, like 425 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:41.599 every single bit of my reality was crumbling. And it 426 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:44.240 was scary, dude, So and I and and it was 427 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:46.240 hard enough to deal with that in my own mind 428 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:48.640 that I couldn't even put it into place in the 429 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.000 outer world, which is why I was. I was starting. 430 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:53.839 I was going pale in the face. My fucking face 431 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:56.000 was drooping a cord. And Seawan, like I said, and 432 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.920 I could barely walk, like my I couldn't even get 433 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:00.200 my legs under me. It was like I was a 434 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.839 baby learning to walk. And I was scared, and I 435 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.279 was like tearing up right, And so Sean asked if 436 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:09.680 I wanted to go in the bathroom and like have 437 00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:11.599 some water run on me. I was like, yes, let's 438 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:14.480 do that. And so we go in and at first 439 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:16.920 he puts the water a little hot. I'm like, all right, 440 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:17.880 turn it down a little bit. 441 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.400 I was hamming, dude. I just put the water on. 442 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:23.119 I didn't even think too like adjust the temperature, you know. 443 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:25.960 Well, and in that moment, that felt good that Sean 444 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.319 knew that I was at least semi coherent, that I 445 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:32.880 said that the water was too hot. And so I'm 446 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.480 in there for a little while and I feel like 447 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.839 I'm breaking and everything. I'm not gonna make this too long, 448 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:38.880 but I felt like I was breaking it a little bit. 449 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:40.759 And I got out of the shower after a little 450 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:42.720 while and when to go lay down on the couch, 451 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:46.440 and it was still my reality was warping and bending 452 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:49.440 and breaking, and I was seeing other realities, ones that 453 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:52.359 I did not prefer. It was just absolute chaos. There 454 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.079 was no order to it, and it scared the ever 455 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.279 living fuck out of me. And I kept on seeing 456 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:00.799 like weird lights behind the mirror of the glow, which 457 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.880 so strange. I still don't know what that is. And 458 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:08.920 and so I'm laying there and he put on like 459 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.000 some car show. Was it called John. 460 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.279 It's a vicecript grudge, just some dude. He goes and 461 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.359 finds old cars and fixes him up. And it's just 462 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:20.039 him on camera by himself, just thinking out loud what 463 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:22.640 he's gonna do next. And he's outside, so he's in nature, 464 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:24.759 and I was like, this is some you know, down 465 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:26.680 to earth type of shit that we need right now. 466 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:30.519 Yeah, which was perfect. I needed some semblance of human. 467 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.240 Like all I wanted was just to be a human again, 468 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:35.839 as weird of a thought that is, like for some 469 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:39.240 reason I thought that I wasn't a human anymore and 470 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:43.119 that that part of being a human was gone, that 471 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.839 I was never going to come back to this reality never, 472 00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:50.000 at least not at least the same way. And because 473 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:52.640 it really fools you. It really fools you while you're 474 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:54.920 in there, Like you you might go in there and 475 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:56.960 be like, oh, I've done this a thousand times. It 476 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.200 don't matter how many fucking times you've done it. You'll 477 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.039 get there, and it will convince you that your world 478 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:06.720 is ending, like like, no joke, Like it is full 479 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:10.559 on convincing you. There is there's nothing that, nothing more 480 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:14.079 that it could do to convince you otherwise. It's it's 481 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:17.720 every single every single cell in your body, every piece 482 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:21.559 of conscious that you're aware of, it is convinced that 483 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:24.599 you are going into another world and you're never coming back. 484 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:26.720 It's like, hell, maybe. 485 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.480 No, I think you you definitely created your own hell 486 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:31.880 and that in that experience, you know, because before we 487 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:35.759 even had that experience. Earlier that day, we were talking 488 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:39.240 and you had mentioned something about like your your biggest fear, 489 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:42.240 you know, would be that you didn't know anything Like 490 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:44.359 that was you want to know as much as you 491 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:46.640 can so that you can't ever you can never feel 492 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.480 like you just don't know anything. And then you have 493 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:54.160 an experience where nothing is identifiable, and you even see 494 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.640 things that you even felt like you shouldn't have seen, 495 00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:59.640 like things that you've probably blocked from your memory because 496 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:03.000 it's thinks so horrible that nobody should see that. And 497 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:06.519 so you definitely created your worst fear for you. It 498 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.960 sounds like, yes, like your marine was like, oh, this 499 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.880 is what you're afraid of, let me put you through that, 500 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:15.759 so that way, your worst fear has been experienced already. 501 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:19.680 Yeah. Yeah, And I and I had talked before about 502 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.119 how the void was the scariest thing that I thought 503 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:25.440 that anybody could ever experience. This was worse. So and 504 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:29.359 that's not even like recency biased, like I'm comparing the 505 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:31.119 two because it's all I do is think about this 506 00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:35.440 shit and and yeah, it sucked. So anyway, I'm laying 507 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:37.799 there on the couch and I finally am starting to 508 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:39.960 come back it's taken me a little while, but I 509 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:41.200 knew that I was going to be in it for 510 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.079 a while, because I mean, typically that psychedelic last for 511 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:47.759 about anywhere from three to four hours, and I was 512 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.799 I started feeling like that literally half an hour in, 513 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:52.720 so I knew that I had at least three more 514 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.119 hours to go, which scared the ever living shit out 515 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:57.759 of me, because there I was like, there's no way 516 00:25:57.799 --> 00:25:59.799 I can handle this for this long. It was too 517 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:03.200 much stress. It was too much anxiety, like it was 518 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.160 it was a panic attack for three plus hours. Like 519 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:08.559 internally now, I'm not like freaking out and I'm not 520 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:11.119 screaming or anything like that. I can I can handle 521 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.440 it in house, but barely, right, And and so Sean 522 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:17.240 decides to put that show on. I'm trying to come 523 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.240 back to this reality, and I'm trying to like keep 524 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.400 my eyes open and keep my eyes from from closing 525 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:25.640 at this point, because every time I close my eyes, 526 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:30.640 I see that fucking upside down world to where chaos rules, right, 527 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:32.759 And so I'm trying to keep my eyes open. I'm 528 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:34.480 trying to keep them peeled onto this TV. And it's 529 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.519 just this random, like normal, fucking You're like he's a 530 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.119 man's man type of guy that is working on cars, right, 531 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:44.319 the most normal shit you can ever watch, and just 532 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.400 these tiny little things that he would say, and it 533 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:48.359 would every time I would laugh, I'd be like, oh, 534 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.079 I'm starting to get it back because I you couldn't 535 00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.279 have pried to laugh out of me in that moment, 536 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:56.759 you know. And so and after a while, I'm finally 537 00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.559 I'm finally fully back and I'm scared, and Sean is 538 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.400 wanting John goes, dude, are you okay? And I was like, yeah, 539 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.240 I think I'm back now, and Sean's like, dude, let 540 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:05.400 me tell you. I want to talk to you about this. 541 00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.599 And this was I was like, dude, I'm I'm back, 542 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.480 but i can't talk about it right now because I'm 543 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.200 I'm fresh out of it, Like I'm I'm literally not 544 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.039 stable enough to have this conversation. And I wanted to be. 545 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.160 It was just that I was what I just went 546 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.319 through was the most traumatizing shit of my life. 547 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.680 Oh same here, and I mean obviously in a different way, 548 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.240 but definitely went through something very because in my reality 549 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.039 at that time, dude, while you were going through that, 550 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:35.319 because of course I don't know exactly what you're experiencing. 551 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.240 There's no way for me to know exactly what you 552 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:39.039 were going through, but I just know that you were 553 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:42.720 going through something bad. But in my experience of that, dude, 554 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.279 was like you were about to dip out, you know. 555 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:49.000 And so like in my reality, man, I was having 556 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:53.559 so many understandings and like just this unbelievable boost of 557 00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:59.640 empathy and compassion for not even just your life, but 558 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.000 everyone's life, dude. And I was just thinking, like, man, 559 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.680 I wouldn't want anybody to experience that, you know. And 560 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.799 sure we're all going to experience losing a loved one 561 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.599 and people have, you know. And so then I started 562 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.200 to think about that, like the people that have lost people, 563 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:17.759 and and I mean I've lost I lost my step dad, 564 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.400 and I know and I understand how much that can 565 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.039 change your reality, you know. And so but yeah, just 566 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.480 the amount of empathy and compassion that I was experiencing 567 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.359 and just gratefulness for the people around me, dude, was 568 00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.200 just unmatched, you know. So yeah, we went through the 569 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:35.000 shadow to get there, man, But I mean, I wouldn't 570 00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:38.119 want to undo that. I wouldn't want to not have 571 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.119 that experience. But man, when it was happening. Man, it 572 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.799 was the just my worst nightmare, you know, Like I'm 573 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:47.960 not afraid to die. I'm afraid of people missing me 574 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.839 when I'm gone. I'm afraid of other people around me going, 575 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.319 you know. But that was just the biggest piece of 576 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.519 humble pie you can get, dude. 577 00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.920 Uh yeah, straight up. It was. It was fucked up, man, 578 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.519 like it was. That's that's the only thing I can say. 579 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:04.640 It was just fucked up. And it like it was 580 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.039 too far, you know, like you would expect, like God, 581 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.640 the universe, source, your your spirit, guides your angels, whatever 582 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.759 is following you around, whatever you believe in. It's like, dude, 583 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:16.799 come me some fucking slack. I'm still a human, you know. 584 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.759 I can't handle all that shit. And and it was 585 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:23.319 crazy because you know, I'm I'm the kind of guy 586 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:24.920 I like to keep on pushing it. I want to 587 00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:26.319 push it and push it and push it. I want 588 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.400 to see how far I can go. And I don't, necessarily, 589 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.160 you know, normally know my limits. And and it wasn't 590 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.000 like I overdid it. We did a normal amount, the 591 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.720 same amount that we do every single time, and it's 592 00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.039 from the same batch that we've done every single time. 593 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:46.119 So it wasn't the actual psychedelic itself. It was a 594 00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:47.960 bunch of things that were kind of leading up to 595 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.640 this and and and we didn't even know that these 596 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.039 things would have an effect until afterward, ironically, and then 597 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.720 it made sense. So yeah, it was. It was pretty crazy. 598 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.480 I dude, I ended up crying to Sean Like it 599 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:05.839 was a full on, like emotional bro night. Like it 600 00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.000 was like as gay as that sounds, but like it was. 601 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.319 It was one of those nights where I was just 602 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.319 spilling it all out to him and he was, you know, 603 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:16.160 spilling it all out to me, and it was just 604 00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:20.759 I fucking love this guy and so always there for me. Like, yeah, 605 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:24.240 like I hope that what I'm not even gonna go 606 00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:26.960 there if I die, I hope to be Shawn spirit guide. 607 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:28.519 That's what I want to be in my in my 608 00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:28.920 next life. 609 00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:32.119 I appreciate that. Shit, I'd appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, be 610 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.839 quiet for a second, you know what I mean, Like, 611 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:35.240 let me think this out real quick. 612 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:40.119 What are all these downloads I'm getting right? But yeah, 613 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:41.759 and it was. It was a very emotional night. We 614 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.559 got we got over it. We're fine. We need a 615 00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.920 little bit of time to get over that, because I'm 616 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.319 not gonna lie. I was seeing shadows for a little bit. 617 00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.599 And if it wasn't for me going through the whole 618 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.559 void process the first time in like a year ago, 619 00:30:54.680 --> 00:31:01.359 whenever it was, I think that this dude, like I 620 00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:05.680 can't even go into the depths of how emotionally scarring 621 00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.039 that was. Like it was so fucked up. Anyway, So 622 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:10.960 we got over it. We're fine. In the next day, 623 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.920 we're having this conversation in case you guys had listened 624 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.720 to the or was it the next air day after 625 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:19.599 something like that, and we're having this conversation with the 626 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:24.720 witch from Salem and she's really into like divination and 627 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.839 astrology and all this typical witch things, except she was 628 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.000 from Salem. So we're like, okay, we maybe we got 629 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.279 an actual one, right, Not that all the other witches 630 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:35.839 aren't actual witches. It's just like it's cool, you know. 631 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.000 It's almost like if you were to meet a leprechaun 632 00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.559 in Indiana, you'd be like, Okay, that's cool, But you 633 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:43.640 meet one from fucking Ireland, You're like, I got one 634 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:47.079 from fucking Ireland, you know. Yeah, And so it was 635 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.519 cool having that conversation with her, and she goes, well, 636 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.640 you know, actually this whole week, Mercury's in retrograde. We're like, oh, 637 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:56.599 how ironic is that. The next day, I'm having a 638 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.599 conversation with electro Nick and he's like, you know, I 639 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.160 was telling him like what happened before that day because 640 00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:04.640 he was trying to figure out what was going on. 641 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.440 And I said, well, the past couple of days I've 642 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.400 been working on getting my tattooed on. It's like this 643 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.400 half sleeve, right, and the Shawn's been doing it, and 644 00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:17.440 and he goes, dude, that's why it's because you were 645 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.079 I mean, your body was in like in insane stress 646 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.559 and it's like producing this court this cortisol, and it's 647 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.359 bringing you to the fight or flight kind of mentality. 648 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.880 Your body's already in that in that mode and dude, 649 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.279 and then I decided to trip like an hour after 650 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.640 we were done tattooing, which I didn't know, like, you know, 651 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:41.880 maybe dehydration. Sure, you know, because your body is doing 652 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.359 what it does whenever it's getting innked up. But I 653 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.200 didn't know that my body was would be in such 654 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:53.640 disarray to where it would affect how I would receive, 655 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.279 said psychedelic. Didn't know it was going to go that far. 656 00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.160 Now, you know, I did mention it, but it was 657 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.079 in my mind. I was just thinking, like, oh, maybe 658 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:03.200 you don't want to feel sore like while you're in 659 00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.279 that headspace. You don't want to be looking at it 660 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:09.039 and feeling that that sunburned sensation you know that you have, 661 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.160 and it kind of just like mess with you a 662 00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.599 little bit. I had no idea that it would go 663 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:18.200 that far into your experience, and so had I known, 664 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:19.920 I think I would have made it a little more 665 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.640 urgent and been like, hey, dude, let's wait a minute, 666 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.720 you know what I mean, or let's do the tattoo tomorrow. 667 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.480 But I had no idea. I didn't know what I 668 00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:27.640 didn't know, you. 669 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.839 Know, Yeah, yeah, dude, Ben said I had similar a 670 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.519 similar experience a while back on mushrooms. I think I 671 00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:35.920 almost lost the marbles. Glad you made it back. That's 672 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.079 the perfect way of saying it. I legit almost lost 673 00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.279 my marbles, Like I think, dude, if I would have 674 00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:46.480 had to stay in that fucking hell hole for longer 675 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.599 than I did, you'd had to either put me in 676 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:51.680 a padded room or I would have just jumped off 677 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:56.000 a building like it was that level, dude. And yeah, 678 00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.240 so I don't know. I think it's gonna be I 679 00:33:58.279 --> 00:33:59.960 think it's gonna be a little while into a terrip again. 680 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.559 Yeah No, I mean I don't even think I'm gonna 681 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.559 trip again, to be honest with you, I mean, unless 682 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.559 something crazy happens and I feel like that's what I need. 683 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.519 But you know, like they say, you know, it'll come 684 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:12.960 to you. You know, the timing will be right and 685 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:14.800 for you to have that experience. But like, as far 686 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:19.199 as I am concerned right now, dude, I'm I'm good, dude. 687 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.960 I got a lot of downloads and understandings, Like for 688 00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:22.880 for a minute. 689 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:24.480 You won't see me planning to do it again. I'll 690 00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:24.800 say that. 691 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:27.440 Yeah. And that being said, you know, I wouldn't even 692 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.920 say that it is for everybody. You know, some people 693 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:33.199 are like really fucking happy with how the reality is going. 694 00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.320 And I wouldn't say, hey, you should probably do mushrooms 695 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.039 or you should probably do DMT. It's like, you know, 696 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:40.960 the people that are going to do it already have 697 00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.400 it in their mind that they're going to do it, 698 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.280 but I going forward, just having that experience is not 699 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.400 something I would want to push on anybody, you know 700 00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:50.920 what I mean, because that, my god, dude, what a 701 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.400 lesson that we got. 702 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.039 And it's not to say that every time, every time 703 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.760 somebody trips, that that's what you experience, but you open 704 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.639 up the bag of possible abilities for that to happen 705 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.840 when you whenever you do trip, and you never know, 706 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.920 like some people just are are almost unaware of what 707 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.880 they're going through in their life. Maybe you know, they 708 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.119 haven't done the shadow work or or whatever. Right like, 709 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.159 there's always some shit where we're kind of always dealing 710 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.320 with in the back of our mind. And you know, 711 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.559 me personally, I'm I'm kind of like in this transitory 712 00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.880 stage of you know, I'm I'm getting ready to buy 713 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.360 a house, so I'm staying at my parents' guest house 714 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.920 right now and a whole other state from my kids. 715 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.800 And it was already hard and in the middle of 716 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.039 splitting from the cult of conspiracy and putting everything here 717 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.360 together with Meta and there's just so many things that 718 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.440 are up, and I guess it was too much. You know, 719 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.000 I needed some some form of stability, because even in 720 00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.239 that trip, I kept on thinking, dude, I have nothing 721 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.480 stable in my life right now like it was. And 722 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.679 that was really fucking me up because. 723 00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.159 That trip then you know, everything kind of just being 724 00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.719 fracktled and kind of at a in a disarray. 725 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.559 Yeah yeah, I was, dude, all I was just trying 726 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:09.320 to find some form of stabilization, some form of foundation 727 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.840 at all. Couldn't find it. I just kept on falling falling, falling, falling, 728 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.679 and it was just more fucked and more fucked and 729 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:18.199 more fucked every every couple of minutes, and and it 730 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:22.280 was just so scary. But anyway, Yeah, so lesson learned. 731 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.960 Don't do psychedelics when mercury is in retrograde, and don't 732 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.280 do psychedelics moments after you're done getting a tattoo. Wait 733 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:30.920 a couple of days, you know, because it takes a 734 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.360 little while for your like your hormones and your chemicals 735 00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:34.840 and all that shit to balance back out. 736 00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:39.920 Again, right and as you know, yeah, yeah. 737 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:43.159 Like imagine like the amount of ink that we did. 738 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.480 It was crazy, like legit, I think we put in 739 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.880 I want to say, like ten twelve hours worth of 740 00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.960 tattooing in three days altogether. Yeah, altogether crazy. 741 00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.920 I you know, here I am thinking like, man, this 742 00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.119 has got heard after this many hours, you know, like, 743 00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:02.920 I've never tattooed that much blacking, you know, all at 744 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.360 once before. So that was definitely a that was definitely 745 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.519 a chore. Dude, I had no idea, but but yeah, 746 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:11.320 and here I am thinking like, oh, this is a 747 00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:12.960 lot of pain. This is a lot of pain, you know, 748 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.199 being an impath. Here I am stabbing you with needles 749 00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.159 for hours straight, you know, and so but yeah, man, 750 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:20.719 it was. It was definitely a trip. 751 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:20.840 Man. 752 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.760 I'm glad we got through it. And sometimes the lessons 753 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:26.800 are just a little more uncomfortable than others. 754 00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.960 Yeah, I can handle the physical pain, you know, I 755 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:33.280 played sports my whole life. I'm I'm I'm kind of 756 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.719 used to dealing with all the physical ailments and shit 757 00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:41.159 like that. But like mental pain is that's the hardest 758 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:45.960 shit ever. Yeah, Like almost imagine getting into a car 759 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.880 crash and then doing mushrooms an hour later. That probably 760 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.400 fuck with your mind a little bit, you know. 761 00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.119 Yeah, you're not going to a nice place, you know 762 00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:54.559 what I mean. 763 00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.559 No, no, not at all, not at all. So yeah, 764 00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.159 we kind of want to just lay it out there 765 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.440 and and say, you know, look, we kind of broke 766 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.280 through the other side of the matrix and on the 767 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:09.119 other side, only metamistics is around, you know, So that's 768 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.239 kind of symbolic in that sense. But yeah, it because 769 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.639 those things whenever you go through something like that, you 770 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.079 really try, like I said, you're trying to find some 771 00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.719 form of foundation in your mind to stabilize you a 772 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.679 little bit. And so I'm going through all the things 773 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.320 that like, all the things that are changing, all the 774 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.199 things that I want to change, all the things that 775 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.840 I don't want to change, and it's like it's like 776 00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.760 a it's almost like my mind decided to play fifty 777 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.960 two pickup and I'm just trying to pick out the 778 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.639 cards that I want, you know, and trying to these 779 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:42.159 are the things that I want to keep, These are 780 00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.000 the things that I want to let go of, right, 781 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.679 and these are the things the most important, These are 782 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:48.639 the things that I you know, it just trying to 783 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.679 order them a little bit. And so in my mind, 784 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.519 you know, I'm really just trying to figure out what 785 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.079 I wanted. And I will say that with that amount 786 00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:01.119 of fear, I see why people settle, like one hundred percent, 787 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:05.079 whether you're settling out a job, or you're settling with 788 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:09.119 a significant other or you're settling with whatever you settle 789 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.239 with that like you know you deserve more, or you 790 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.719 think you deserve more, you think that you could get 791 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.039 a little bit more out of life, but there's always 792 00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:21.079 something that is holding you back from whatever whatever it 793 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:25.000 is right. And in that moment, I wanted all of 794 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:26.960 my original shit back because I was like, dude, that 795 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.159 I just fucked something up. I need to take one 796 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.880 hundred steps back and try and figure out where to 797 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.480 move forward with my life. And because in that moment, 798 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.559 it's a moment of weakness, you know, and in that 799 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.639 moment of weakness, all you're looking forward, are you're looking 800 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.960 for is just something you can grab on. Like it's 801 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.920 like fucking Chris Farley, hold. 802 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.840 On, little twig, please be strong. 803 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.599 Yeah, please be strong, little root. Yeah, that's what it 804 00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.360 feels like. And so you're just grabbing and grabbing and grabbing. 805 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.400 So anyway, I was like, nope, I'm not reverting. I 806 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:03.719 already chose to put my life this way. And I 807 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:05.880 know this is a personal thing and nobody really gives 808 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.519 a fuck to hear about this kind of stuff, but 809 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.559 it is what it is. And so yeah, moving forward, 810 00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.480 we're gonna be talking about some really insane shit, and 811 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.559 so this was kind of like kind of like the 812 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.000 glue in between episodes. We we couldn't shoot this past 813 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:26.159 Wednesday because Sean and I were still kind of reeling, 814 00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:29.559 weren't really necessarily ready. Plus we wanted to make sure 815 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:35.440 that we were comfortably able to talk about our experience 816 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.719 whenever we want, whenever we were ready, because there was 817 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.320 a couple of days after that we didn't we couldn't 818 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:43.559 talk about it, Like it had to be like at 819 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.719 least two days until we started talking about the whole experience. 820 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.920 And I know what you're thinking, Like, for anybody that 821 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.559 hasn't experienced this, you're like, dude, they tried psychedelics, you know, 822 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.119 they they lost their shit, you know whatever. It scared 823 00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.960 them a little bit, No, dude, Like imagine a thousand 824 00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:06.559 nightmares every second for three hours. That's like the best 825 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:07.800 way I can put it. 826 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.800 There was there was days after that that every once 827 00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:13.119 in a while, through just throughout the day, dude, because 828 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.000 I would kind of reloop that in my mind, like 829 00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.119 just that whole experience and that thought process and how 830 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.960 just awfully terrifying that was, and I would just kind 831 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:24.480 of replay that in my mind, and I would have 832 00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.599 to just kind of stop what I was doing and 833 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.920 just go and just breathe it out, you know what 834 00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.840 I mean, Like it was that heavy where I had 835 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.199 to kind of pull myself back out of that experience, 836 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.000 you know, from from just looping it round and round 837 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.880 and round. And and I wonder why that is. You know, 838 00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:43.400 we do that all the time when it comes to 839 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.400 bad experiences or things were stressed out about, or things 840 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.599 were not looking forward to, or or you know, making 841 00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.760 up scenarios in our mind with our imagination of how 842 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.519 poorly something can go, you know, and we'll just kind 843 00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:57.079 of loop that around. And maybe that is part of 844 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.800 the survival mechanism within our mind. Know, it's almost like 845 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.360 a preparation or a you know, I don't know exactly 846 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.199 what's going on with that, but man, I just kept 847 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.840 looping that around, and for barely just the last two 848 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.559 or three days, I think maybe I've been able to 849 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:14.440 just kind of leave that where it is now and 850 00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.599 like I got everything that I can get from that, 851 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:19.960 and now I'm just kind of moving forward. But I mean, 852 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.199 even just read talking about it tonight, you know, has 853 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.119 kind of made me. It kind of put me back 854 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.119 into that that that experience, you know, and it kind 855 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.880 of gave me the like this nervousness within my within 856 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.800 my body, you know, just kind of recovering that. And uh, man, 857 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:37.719 I'm glad that's something that we don't have to go 858 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.880 through again for sure, man, because that was that was 859 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:42.880 a nightmare man, big time. 860 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.599 Yeah, it was. It was fucked up, man, Like I 861 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.519 can't imagine anything worse than that, like not in the mind, 862 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.159 like I'm talking about of the mind. You know, obviously 863 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:57.159 terrible things can happen in physical reality, but like in 864 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.880 the mind it was. It was full one hundred percent 865 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.960 fear and anguish and shit your pants and that's all 866 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:10.039 it was. Like it was. It was fucking horrifying and 867 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.599 I dude, and it let me just to give you 868 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.920 an idea, it was so scary that in the moment, 869 00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:20.159 I knew that once this trip was done, I knew 870 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.199 that I was going to actively try to forget about it. 871 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:27.239 Like it was that fucking fucked and like and so 872 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.199 even the the a couple of days after that, Sean 873 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:31.719 was asking, you know, what were you seeing? And I 874 00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:35.360 was able to remember a little bit, but like I 875 00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.039 legit forgot most of it, like if you ever had, 876 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.440 Like you know, they say we dream every night. Whether 877 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.199 you believe that or not, I don't even know. I 878 00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.039 think you do, but they say you dream every night. 879 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.239 And most of the time, you don't really remember your 880 00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:49.360 dream unless you're somebody who keeps a dream journal and 881 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.639 you're really good at dream recall and stuff like that, 882 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.679 most of your dreams you don't really remember, at least 883 00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:57.639 once a couple of days or a couple of weeks, 884 00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:59.880 a couple of months goes by, right like, unless you 885 00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:02.960 have documented you don't remember what your dream was back 886 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:06.239 in June, right like, you just don't remember it. It 887 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.559 was it was like that, like I knew that it 888 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.239 was going to be so stuck in my mind because 889 00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:14.119 my mind was legit fractured, and I knew that it 890 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:15.800 was going to fuck with me so bad that I 891 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.800 purposely tried to forget it. And it's so crazy that, 892 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.320 like I legit forgot most of it, which is a 893 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:23.400 great thing. It's actually a blessing. Like I'm happy that 894 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.000 I forgot most of it because there were certain insights 895 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.480 that I was getting to where I was like, oh 896 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.360 my god, like we're so fucked, like and I was 897 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.159 looking at it like us, as in, like people of 898 00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.360 this world, people love this matrix, people of the simulation. However, 899 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:41.159 you want to look at it like people of this dream. 900 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:41.880 Like. 901 00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.199 I was like, dude, we are so fucked. We don't 902 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.400 even know it. We're like rats in a cage, like 903 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.280 there's nothing we can do from here. Like they're almost 904 00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:54.599 like dangling fake fake reality in front of our in 905 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.639 front of our faces, almost like as a oh you 906 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.280 want reality, you think you'd deserve this reality? 907 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:01.800 Fuck you? 908 00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:03.960 All right. It was kind of like one of those things, 909 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.599 and it was scaring me, dude, because in my mind 910 00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.960 I was like, and I didn't see any characters. It 911 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.719 was almost like I was communicating with my environment, you know. 912 00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.320 It wasn't like I didn't see any humanoids or anything 913 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:15.639 like that. 914 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.000 I remember you saying, like, I wish I would have 915 00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:20.280 seen somebody in there, you know, and then you would 916 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.320 have at least had something recognizable. 917 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.320 Yeah, Like I wish that I could have seen somebody 918 00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:27.360 with two arms and two legs and a head like 919 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.320 I would. I wish that I would have seen a 920 00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:32.159 fucking octopus or a unicorn or a monkey or something 921 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.440 in there. It just didn't happen, but which you know, 922 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:39.079 because in my mind, every single part of reality was 923 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.840 so fractured that there's no way that a full body 924 00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:43.360 of anything could exist in there. 925 00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:49.079 And yeah, it was usually very fascinating, you know. You know, 926 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.400 speaking of being the scariest thing we've ever experienced, you 927 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.760 would think that a guide or an entity or a 928 00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:00.119 god or something would have showed up. Yeah, you know 929 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.639 what I mean. I mean, if I was a god 930 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.519 and I had my creation and some fraction of my 931 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.400 creation is in the worst fear possible, I would want 932 00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.280 to give them comfort or do something to help, I 933 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:14.960 would think, you know, but it just felt like it 934 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:15.840 was just you and me in there. 935 00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:20.199 Oh yeah, it was. It was totally hopeless, and I 936 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.719 you know what, And at the time I was I 937 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.320 was kind of resenting, you know, whoever is on the 938 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.840 other side that is not here to help me, fuck you. You know. 939 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.559 It was almost like I was almost like full of resentment. 940 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.880 But after a while, like you know, I'm sitting there 941 00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:35.920 and I'm like, you know, a couple of days go 942 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:39.519 by and everything, I'm like, dude, you know, sometimes you 943 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.440 gotta take the training wheels off, you know, like eventually 944 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:44.000 you got to throw the kid in the pool without 945 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.920 the floaties, and I feel like that's what that was, 946 00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:46.880 you know. 947 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.519 And your power back, you know talk when people say, 948 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.920 like we've even said it, you know what I mean, like, 949 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:55.840 you've got to take your own power back. You gotta 950 00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:58.039 be cause you are the captain, right, You're the one 951 00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.480 kind of creating what you experience and kind of how 952 00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:03.719 you experience it. And it was like that was just 953 00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.480 exactly what we needed at that time. But it was 954 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.599 definitely obvious that that was the case, at least in 955 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.840 that experience. I'm not gonna sit here and say that 956 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.000 none of those things exist for sure, but in that experience, 957 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:17.920 I didn't experience that. 958 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:20.559 You know, it was almost like it. I almost kind 959 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.880 of felt like fucking multi dimensional warfare. That's the only 960 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.519 I can't even think of anything else. But yeah, it 961 00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.639 was pretty crazy. Ben said, totally get it. Thank you 962 00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.079 for sharing in depth. Listening to you alluding to this 963 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.159 on the cult, I've been interested to hear the details. Yeah, 964 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.599 it's pretty crazy, dude, And I'm sure that there are 965 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:40.719 parts that I'm leaving out, but I don't I don't 966 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.760 want to leave out just Sean like Sean's role in 967 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.159 that because he's saying that it was our like our 968 00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.559 worst night, And yes, that's what I was going through 969 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.480 in my own mind, but what I was experiencing in 970 00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.400 my in my own inner world, Sean was experiencing in 971 00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.039 the outer world by trying to take care of me. 972 00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:04.320 He legit thought I was gonna die, and and to 973 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.199 be honest, that's he's not going too far and thinking 974 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.000 that I thought I was gonna die, like I legit, 975 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:12.199 and I don't know. I mean, how does somebody die 976 00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:14.440 on psychedelics and probably never heard of it before, but 977 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:18.599 I would imagine if somebody was to ever die, it's 978 00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.719 because they gave themselves a fucking heart attack. And that's 979 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.599 what it felt like like. I thought that, like my 980 00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:26.920 brain was going to be fried, my heart was going 981 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:31.159 to explode, and every bit of con like I legit had, 982 00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.639 I if I had to try and put a percentage 983 00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.559 on it, it felt like I had one percent of 984 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.440 consciousness left over in my body. 985 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:40.880 What it looked like, it felt like it. 986 00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.639 It looked like it. And Sean's fucking you know, he 987 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.440 is losing it, and and you know, at the time 988 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:47.760 he was kind of scaring me with it because I 989 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:49.159 was like, damn, am I really this fucked? 990 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:49.559 You know? 991 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.000 And but to be honest, if Sean wouldn't have reacted 992 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.440 that way, what if he didn't put me in the 993 00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.760 shower to shock me back, you know, what if he 994 00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.840 wasn't there and comforting and and even afterward, after the 995 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:02.840 trip was all done, you know, he was getting ready 996 00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.320 to go to bed because his wife was getting ready 997 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:05.760 to go to bed. I was like, Sean, please, can 998 00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.280 you just like hang out with me for a couple hours, dude, 999 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:09.920 and like you don't even have to say anything, Let's 1000 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.960 just watch TV together. I just I can't be alone 1001 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.199 right now. Sean was a fucking angel in that moment. 1002 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.960 Just everybody knows, like Sean's a real one. He is. 1003 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:19.639 He was. 1004 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.800 He was like my fucking he was my angel for 1005 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.880 that night, my spirit guide for that night, whatever you 1006 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.480 want to call it. I don't know what that would 1007 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.360 have looked like without him not saying that, I would 1008 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:28.719 have died. 1009 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.280 Not saying that, I wouldn't have not probably, you know, 1010 00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:36.400 And the more I think about it, you know, uh, 1011 00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.599 who knows, maybe you never were going to But the 1012 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.960 experience I was having was that you were you know, 1013 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.920 and so man, me just sitting there and after I 1014 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:49.639 thought you were feeling better, you know, you were laying 1015 00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:51.400 there and I was like, man, I really want to 1016 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.159 talk about some of this because I felt like I 1017 00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.239 needed to because I was just sitting there the whole time. 1018 00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:56.800 We weren't really talking, so I was just kind of 1019 00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.599 sitting there just one I was feeling grateful that you 1020 00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:02.400 were fl better and that you were, you know, uh, 1021 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.719 at least consciously aware of what's going on. So I 1022 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:08.000 felt like, Okay, everything's okay, He's gonna be fine, you know. 1023 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.159 But there was still times where I would like look 1024 00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:12.199 over and like if your eyes were shut, I'd just 1025 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.000 like look and make sure. Like dude, I was like, still, 1026 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.280 of course I'm tripping, you know, what do you expect? 1027 00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:19.920 You know? But so I wouldn't even say that I 1028 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.119 like saved your life or anything like that, but it 1029 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.199 definitely I definitely had the experience that you were going 1030 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:27.920 you know what I mean, and like you being someone that, 1031 00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.159 you know, the way that you think about stuff in 1032 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:33.400 your mind is so quick to come to certain understandings 1033 00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:35.599 and be able to actually express it, you know, out 1034 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.639 loud and in front of people, and just you're you're 1035 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.400 you're quick with it, you know, and so to see 1036 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:44.000 you in in just the opposite of that was very 1037 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:48.199 scary for me, you know. And so but yeah, definitely 1038 00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.920 the experience of that, whether regardless if that's what was 1039 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.360 going to happen with me or without me there, you 1040 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.960 know what I mean. But yeah, just sitting there kind 1041 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.719 of quiet, thinking about everything and just kind of trying 1042 00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:02.320 to process what just happened. And then man, that was 1043 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.559 what a fucking nightmare, dude. 1044 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:07.880 Yeah, yeah, it was. It was uh, that's the only 1045 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:09.920 word that you can use for it. It was a nightmare, dude. 1046 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:14.280 It was a nightmare full on. And even to be honest, 1047 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.440 after Sean went to sleep, I still stayed up. I 1048 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:19.079 think he went to sleep at four. I ended up 1049 00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:21.599 going to sleep at like six in the morning. And 1050 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:23.880 because I was, like, I was scared to fall asleep. 1051 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.719 If you ever had a nightmare, like you're not trying 1052 00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:28.280 to go right back to sleep if you wake up, 1053 00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:29.840 you know what I'm saying, Like you want to try 1054 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:32.840 and wait that bad boy out, reset the algorithm. Hopefully 1055 00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:35.119 you go into a dream or something. Maybe you just 1056 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.360 don't even have any dreams at all, you just see 1057 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.960 nothing that would be far better than just having another 1058 00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.159 nightmare or going back into the same nightmare I've had. 1059 00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.039 You ever, you ever had that happen before, where you 1060 00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.280 have a nightmare and you're like, try and stay up 1061 00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:48.880 for a couple of minutes, and then you fall asleep 1062 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:50.400 and you go back into the nightmare. It's like, oh 1063 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.719 my god, come on, meanwhile, you can't. 1064 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.639 The good dreams you can go back into. It's only 1065 00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:55.519 the bad ones. 1066 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.320 Hey, God forbid. Like I'm getting down with Jessica Alba 1067 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.119 or something like that, and I wake up and and 1068 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.000 I try to go back to sleep and can't go 1069 00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:02.760 back in there. 1070 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:05.599 You know, I don't know, just the nightmares, you know. 1071 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.199 Yeah, Yeah, that's just weird how that happens. But yeah, 1072 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:12.519 I think that it was literally my worst fears made manifest. 1073 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.280 And so the good news is is that I've already 1074 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:21.199 experienced the worst internal feeling that I could ever imagine, 1075 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.039 because I manifested it in my own damn mind. So 1076 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.199 you know, there's always something to gain from it. And 1077 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.079 I will say, obviously, not all psychedelic trips are going 1078 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:33.960 to go like this. I have tripped probably all together 1079 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.719 forty or fifty times in my life all together, maybe 1080 00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:42.400 closer to forty. And whether it be mushrooms or four 1081 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:46.400 aco DMT or regular DMT or never tried acid, I'm 1082 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:48.320 not really crazy about even wanting to try acid, to 1083 00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:52.559 be honest with you, but all together around forty times, 1084 00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:56.719 I've had two bad trips, so it's like heavily good 1085 00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.480 on the good side. That being said, I feel like 1086 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.760 I've experienced everything I need to experience and I probably 1087 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:07.199 won't be getting in there again. And so what I 1088 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.119 am more interested in though, is going trying to go 1089 00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:14.880 deeper into the meditational realms, because in there, whenever you're meditating, 1090 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.280 you're so calm, you're so chill, you know, you can 1091 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:19.840 kind of you feel your surroundings and maybe you get 1092 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.360 lost in there, maybe time kind of escapes from you. Whatever, 1093 00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.119 but at least it's manageable. Like with that that was 1094 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:29.239 not manageable. There was nothing I could do to manage it. 1095 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.599 And so what I would like to do, especially now 1096 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:35.159 that I'm doing metaphull time, I would like to get 1097 00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.960 back into doing more past life regressions. So if anybody 1098 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:43.039 is interested in that, and I would say, apart from psychedelics, 1099 00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:47.519 the farthest that you can go into your mind unless 1100 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:50.840 you're like a seasoned meditator and you don't need somebody 1101 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.920 like that. The farthest you can go without psychedelics, in 1102 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.840 my opinion, is past life aggressions. So if anybody's interested 1103 00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:00.599 in that, just reach out to us on Patreon, hit 1104 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.800 us up in the email metamistics at yahoo dot com, 1105 00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.480 and I'll respond and we'll get it going, so you 1106 00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.920 don't have to go to the depths that I went to, 1107 00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:10.599 you know. 1108 00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:13.159 Yeah, I mean it was so nightmarish that I wasn't 1109 00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.079 even sure if we were going to share it in 1110 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.440 the depth that we that we have tonight, you know, 1111 00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.639 but I felt like we probably should, you know, one 1112 00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.719 to be transparent and two, I'm sure this night is 1113 00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:26.960 being as impactful as it was. It's going to be 1114 00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:29.559 something that we're going to be able to look back on, 1115 00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:32.639 you know, going forward. And so you know, I'm glad 1116 00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:34.360 that we were able to share that with you guys. 1117 00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:36.840 And uh, yeah, really wasn't sure we were going to, 1118 00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:39.840 but I thank you guys for for listening to us 1119 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:41.880 on that because I feel like we needed that. 1120 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:46.880 Oh yeah, very therapeutic actually, but you know, What's funny 1121 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:49.840 is is that before I ever really tried any I 1122 00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.400 think i'd tried mushrooms, but i'd never done for aco DMT, 1123 00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:56.360 and i'd never done regular DMT. I used to always 1124 00:54:56.360 --> 00:55:01.559 hear like people's trip reports, right, like especially from or 1125 00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:06.840 Ayahuasca or even ib A Gain right, like these crazy 1126 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:10.039 ass trips, and they'll talk about how amazing it is. 1127 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.039 It is so blissful, so amazing, so awesome, and it's 1128 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.199 just the most like you can't even put it into words, 1129 00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.639 you couldn't even draw it, right, like one of those 1130 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:26.239 crazy amazing like beyond heavenly right. People will have those experiences. 1131 00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.239 Then you ask them, They're like, oh, that's awesome. You 1132 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.239 had a great experience. Do you want to do it again? 1133 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:32.480 They're like, the fuck no, I'm not doing that again, 1134 00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:34.679 you know. Like, and I feel like I've gotten to 1135 00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.480 that point for myself, like I've done it forty fifty 1136 00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.559 times whatever, I'm good now. I experienced what I needed 1137 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:43.000 to experience. I had a bunch of great times a 1138 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.639 couple of bad times. But to be honest, I think 1139 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:50.800 that I really don't want to have another bad trip again. 1140 00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.519 I don't think I can handle it. Like that's and 1141 00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:57.559 maybe that's like I don't know, week of me or whatever, 1142 00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:01.559 but I'm good. It's like it's like getting jumped, you know, 1143 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:03.920 you get jumped one time, you're probably you're like, I 1144 00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:05.719 don't I don't really feel like I need that again 1145 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.039 in my life. That's what it felt like. 1146 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:09.360 Oh dude, I think you got what you needed when 1147 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:11.760 you when you needed it, you know, and I think 1148 00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.199 that it's not it's not weakness, it's just you understanding 1149 00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.920 the limitations of your own mind. You know, you don't 1150 00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.119 want to lose all the marbles, you know, at least 1151 00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:21.320 not all at once, Like let's let's lose them slowly, 1152 00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.480 like over time, you know, as we age and whatnot. 1153 00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:29.920 Yeah, yeah, the normal way. Yeah right, let's see. Hayden said, 1154 00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.440 I'm finally able to join a live show again. I'm 1155 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.719 also glad you made it back. Brother. There is always 1156 00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:38.039 something to learn from bad trips and experiences. I'm definitely 1157 00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:41.400 still interested in past life aggression. Hell yeah, there's definitely 1158 00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:43.719 always something to learn from a bad trip. In the moment, 1159 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:45.760 you feel like there's nothing to learn, maybe the only 1160 00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.000 thing that you learned is that, like, you fucked up, 1161 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:51.039 and why did you try psychedelics in the moment, you know? 1162 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:56.320 And actually Sean throughout the psychedelics while we were tripping, 1163 00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.119 because we both agreed that we're never going to do 1164 00:56:58.159 --> 00:56:58.480 it again. 1165 00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:00.960 Like he's like, throw those, Wade, We're not doing those. 1166 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:03.480 The more I said, oh I already did, I was like, 1167 00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:05.000 I ain't doing that shit again, no way. 1168 00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:05.239 Yeah. 1169 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.599 Fuck that A lot of great memories on it, don't 1170 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:12.280 get me wrong, but eh, you know, we had our 1171 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.800 we had our moment. Go ahead, why boy, wizard. 1172 00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:18.119 Next time, you better send that shit to me? 1173 00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:18.559 Dog? 1174 00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:19.599 What the fuck? 1175 00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.239 Be careful, man, That's all I'm saying. Just be careful. 1176 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.440 I think we only had like we only had like 1177 00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:32.800 one left anyway, Yeah, yeah, so it was only gonna 1178 00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.400 be enough for one of us to trip again. And 1179 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.519 so we were like, you know, like if it was 1180 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:41.239 like thirty or forty left in there, we'd be like, Okay, 1181 00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:43.360 you know, maybe we'll give these to a friend or 1182 00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.920 something like that. But to be honest, and and you 1183 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:48.119 know what, I what I was thinking too, and Sean 1184 00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:52.199 really did so right before we tripped. Sean, it was 1185 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.840 like a couple hours beforehand, he took this gigantic fucking 1186 00:57:56.039 --> 00:58:01.000 crystal and placed it on top of the psychics, right, 1187 00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:03.559 and he was like, I'm gonna charge these motherfuckers up. 1188 00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:06.679 Turns out not a good idea. Probably shouldn't do that. 1189 00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:08.920 Oh I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, just another layer 1190 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:10.239 to the situation, I'm sure. 1191 00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:14.920 Yeah, yeah, so fun, not fun really, but uh yeah 1192 00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:16.800 it was pretty crazy, but yeah, if we had more 1193 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.639 of that. Look, I don't think that it had anything 1194 00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:22.559 to do with the psychedelic itself. It was just reacting 1195 00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:26.280 with my own internal chemistry and thought patterns and stuff 1196 00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:30.440 like that. And you know, that's what happens whenever you, 1197 00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.079 you know, decide to wreck yourself. 1198 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:34.800 And just like anything else, you know, an experience could 1199 00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.079 be a good experience, it could be a whatever experience. 1200 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.599 It just depends on what is already going on within 1201 00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:42.000 your own mind. You know, that's what shapes your experience. 1202 00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:45.239 So no, definitely wasn't the psychedelic itself. And I know 1203 00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.679 a lot of people have great experiences, like Jonathan said, 1204 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:50.920 but just for me personally, you know, I think I'm 1205 00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.199 I'm good for right now. Who knows, maybe five years 1206 00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.159 from now, I'm going through some shit and I need 1207 00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:57.840 a little uh, I need some remembering to do. I 1208 00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.039 don't know, but as of right now, I think I'm good. 1209 00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:03.960 Yeah, it's probably gonna be at least a few years 1210 00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:09.280 before I even think about going there again. But I 1211 00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.039 will say that I think that you can actually get 1212 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:17.960 the majority of what you need out of psychedelics in meditation. Like, really, 1213 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:22.239 anybody who's ever meditated for more than fifteen minutes, I 1214 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.079 mean fifteen minute meditation, you can actually see a lot, right, 1215 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:29.039 But if you actually sit there for twenty five, thirty minutes, 1216 00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:32.239 forty five minutes, even an hour, dude, you can experience 1217 00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:36.800 some really wild shit, and you know just what's going 1218 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.559 on during that meditation. You already have that your own 1219 00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.039 internal DMT is that is kind of secreting through itself, right, 1220 00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:46.960 and that is going into your mind. That's what causes 1221 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:48.960 you to dream at night. And so you can actually 1222 00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.760 tap into that while you're deep enough into meditation to 1223 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.920 where your body thinks that it's asleep, so it starts 1224 00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:00.400 secreting that DMT automatically anyway, And that's why people will 1225 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.920 meditate for a couple of hours or you think it's sad. Guru, 1226 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.960 I think he meditated for like six fucking days in 1227 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.039 a row and never got up to even take a 1228 01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.599 piss or anything like that, like just straight up meditated 1229 01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:11.360 for that long. That's how he knew that he was, 1230 01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:15.000 Like he had lived past lives as a guru, which 1231 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:15.719 is kind of crazy. 1232 01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:19.400 I think the psychedelic is more of like a like 1233 01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:21.960 almost like a shortcut, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, 1234 01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:24.679 you can get you can definitely get downloads and understandings 1235 01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:28.840 through meditation, but psychedelic, I feel like it's just you 1236 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:31.320 just get a lot more all at once. And I 1237 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:35.320 think that's probably what causes the sheer terror at times. 1238 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.320 You know, it's just too much to process all at once, 1239 01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:40.880 too many things that you were comfortable with that just 1240 01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:43.360 go away all of a sudden, you know. And like 1241 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:48.119 in a meditation, you can consciously drift into that space, 1242 01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.559 you know, and so you slowly kind of just become 1243 01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:54.760 the essence that is purely just you kind of just observing, 1244 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:58.559 you know. But when you do psychedelics, that just that 1245 01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:02.559 rug gets just ripped from underneath your feet so fast, dude, 1246 01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.440 that you don't know which ways up, you know. And 1247 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.679 so but yeah, dude, like to what to your point? 1248 01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:10.760 You know, the meditation. Sure, you might have to do 1249 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.760 a lot more meditations or you know, just to get 1250 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:15.880 something that you really need or you know, a lesson 1251 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:18.760 that you need and understanding that you need. It's just 1252 01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:20.880 going to take longer, you know. But that's what they 1253 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:22.679 call it a practice. 1254 01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:26.360 Yes, it's something that you should be practicing every day. Ideally. 1255 01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.039 You know, there are people that meditate every single day 1256 01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.119 and it doesn't have to be no you know, hour 1257 01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:33.760 or anything like that. And they actually say, I mean, 1258 01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.719 I don't know what the best time to meditate is, 1259 01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:40.559 but I've heard it's like rate as soon as you 1260 01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:45.079 wake up, because it helps you kind of set your 1261 01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.239 day in motion. Right, So if you wake up and 1262 01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:51.920 maybe go to the bathroom first and then whatever, you 1263 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:56.679 come back, sit there in meditation for fifteen to thirty 1264 01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:01.920 minutes or whatever, and you're just you're you're you're being 1265 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.440 purposeful about how you're starting your day, and that in 1266 01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:08.800 and of itself is powerful enough. So I think that 1267 01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:10.599 I would love to get to a point where I'm 1268 01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:14.440 meditating every day. You know, We've been saying that for 1269 01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:18.199 quite a while actually, but yeah, I think I'm gonna 1270 01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:20.320 be sticking to that route personally, it's a little bit 1271 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.920 of meditation, some past life regression. I still got to 1272 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:24.679 reach out to John mcclucky so that he can give 1273 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:28.440 me a past life regression. I think that's gonna be sick, Sean. 1274 01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.360 I'm gonna have to meditate or hypnotize you here soon, sir. 1275 01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.840 So yeah, for sure, I'm down down maybe for all that, dude, 1276 01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:37.599 I feel like I actually need it, so at some 1277 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:41.280 point we'll definitely make that happen. But yeah, man, it's 1278 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.440 it's just been. It was. It was a wild ride, man, 1279 01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:45.840 and I and I'm glad we're both here to talk 1280 01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.039 about it. Man, that's all. I just feel grateful. 1281 01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:48.320 Man. 1282 01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:52.239 Yeah, up, my boy, was the sort of I thought 1283 01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:53.400 you were getting ready to say something. 1284 01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:57.480 My dude, Oh sorry, I'm getting some noodles. I was 1285 01:02:57.559 --> 01:02:58.400 unmuted my bed. 1286 01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.679 Ok. Yeah, to what you were saying. As far as 1287 01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:03.800 like meditating in the morning, I feel like that probably 1288 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:05.559 is the best. Like if you can get a hold 1289 01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:08.280 of your subconscious mind and tell it what you were 1290 01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.880 looking for for that day, how you want things to 1291 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:13.679 play out, you're going to be more likely to see 1292 01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:16.679 those things and see those opportunities and kind of be 1293 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:19.840 able to you know, shut down some of the more 1294 01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.519 negative things that it's possible to be seen that day. 1295 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.039 And yeah, I mean, if you ask me, it's probably 1296 01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:27.000 best to do it in the morning and right before 1297 01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:28.440 you go to bed, you know what I mean, right 1298 01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:30.800 out of that data state, right out of that dream world, 1299 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:33.239 and right before the dream world. You know, you can 1300 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.119 talk to your subconscious mind right before bed and tell 1301 01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:38.519 it like, okay, these are some things that I didn't 1302 01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:40.880 like today, like show me why, you know, and then 1303 01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:42.519 you can go into a dream and then your dream 1304 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:47.079 world will possibly enlighten you on those things. I don't know, 1305 01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:50.639 but but yeah, as far as the dream the dream stuff, man, lately, 1306 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.159 my dreams have been just kind of kind of wild 1307 01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:55.119 and kind of I don't know, hard to explain, but 1308 01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:57.199 I felt like every time I woke up, I felt 1309 01:03:57.239 --> 01:03:59.639 just a little bit better than the day before. So 1310 01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.239 in my experience, in my opinion, I think that dreams 1311 01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:07.559 really do help us process information that we've gathered throughout 1312 01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:10.079 the day or throughout the last month or whatever. You know, 1313 01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:14.159 It's like this place that things just kind of get consolidated. 1314 01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:18.440 Yeah, yeah, I think so. And you know what I 1315 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:22.519 was thinking that it was so crazy, dude, because that 1316 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:26.440 it was a night or two after that experience that 1317 01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:29.760 we ended up having on the Witch from Salem right, 1318 01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:33.440 and that night, you know, typically I don't draw tarot 1319 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:36.239 cards normally that's a Sean thing. But he left the 1320 01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:39.280 tarot cards in the room that I was in, and 1321 01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:41.760 so I ended up you know, doing the tarot pool 1322 01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:44.199 that night, and we ended up getting the Nine of Swords. 1323 01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:47.440 What's funny about that and why we kind of you know, 1324 01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:49.599 smirked a little bit whenever we pulled it on the 1325 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:53.920 show was because right after that trip that night, I 1326 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:56.679 told Sean, I was like, dude, like, if I could 1327 01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.280 pick a tarot card that I'm feeling right now, it 1328 01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.599 is the Nine of Swords card, right, And because I 1329 01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.679 just felt absolutely wrecked anxiety ridden, it was just nothing 1330 01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:08.320 I could do about it. I thought that, like, I 1331 01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:12.639 was never gonna get reality back. And then we ended 1332 01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.440 up pulling it that night with that woman and she goes, 1333 01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:19.079 oh damn, that fucking card follows me around everywhere, that 1334 01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:21.599 Nine of Swords. I was like, what are the odds 1335 01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:24.400 of all cards to follow around a guest that we 1336 01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:26.639 just had on the show. For it to happen that 1337 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.679 night that night, right, And you know what's crazy is 1338 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:32.760 is that that night I pulled that Nine of Swords 1339 01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:35.280 and I was like, Nope, nope, this is about me. 1340 01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:36.800 I don't want it to be about me. I'm not 1341 01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:38.639 going to read this card. So I ended up pulling 1342 01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.960 another card. It was the Four of Swords, which if 1343 01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:44.840 you ever looked at the distinguishment between the Four Swords 1344 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.480 and the Nine of Swords, they're basically the same fucking card. 1345 01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:50.599 Like they're probably the two most similar cards in the 1346 01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:54.400 entire deck. It is, instead of nine swords hanging above 1347 01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:57.519 somebody's head, it's four swords hanging above somebody's head, and 1348 01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.599 the four of Swords card. There's somebody blind for right, 1349 01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:04.639 with these four swords above them and the Nine of Swords. 1350 01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:06.840 It's the person sitting up in bed and they have 1351 01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.880 their face covered with their hands with the nine Swords 1352 01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:12.639 above them, like clearly in an anxious state. And I 1353 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:14.639 was like, Okay, I guess I'm just gonna read the 1354 01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:17.639 message then, because it's trying to show itself, right, And 1355 01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:21.480 I'm happy I did, But I was thinking, why don't 1356 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:24.840 we go to the deeper depths of what the Nine 1357 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:29.159 of Swords actually means o, man, because I felt like 1358 01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:32.519 it was the right reading, you know, not only just 1359 01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:35.280 for me, because I thought, well, because I thought it 1360 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:37.239 was just about me. But then I was like, oh, well, 1361 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.920 of course it's for Sean too. And then she's like, 1362 01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.800 oh yeah, that card follows me everywhere. It's it's mine too. 1363 01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:48.840 And I was like, okay, so the let's see here 1364 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:51.360 the Nine of Swords. This is according to the end, 1365 01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:54.320 it's very it's not a very long description of it, 1366 01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:57.000 just a couple of paragraphs, but it's from these seventy 1367 01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.440 eight Degrees of Wisdom. If you heard we had one 1368 01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:03.039 episode on Ready from this book where we read in 1369 01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:07.280 deeper detail about the full Magician and the High Priestess. 1370 01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:11.639 I think, yep, so yeah, this is dude. And this 1371 01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:16.199 is what every single like old school terror reader will 1372 01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:19.800 tell you that where they get most of their descriptions 1373 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.199 about like tiny little details and you know, history of 1374 01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:26.559 certain symbolism and stuff like that. Most people will point 1375 01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.280 to this book that was written by Rachel Pollock, and 1376 01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.800 she wrote it like back in nineteen eighty and still 1377 01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:34.719 to this day, there's in a book that touches it 1378 01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:35.719 as far as detail. 1379 01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:37.599 Is concerned off of the first three cards that we 1380 01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.199 went overdue. There was so much that we got from that, 1381 01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:42.679 and so yeah, I can only imagine, you know what 1382 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:43.679 this is going to be about. 1383 01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:47.000 Yeah, so we're going to go there, all right. So 1384 01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:51.440 the nine of Swords the image of deepest sorrow, of 1385 01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:55.920 utmost mental pain, where the queen frees herself by turning 1386 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:59.960 sorrow into wisdom. The three suggests the calm of accepting, 1387 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:03.840 and the nine shows the moment of agony and of dissolution. 1388 01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:08.800 Damn sounds right. The swords do not stick in her back, 1389 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:12.800 but hang in the black air above her. Very often 1390 01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.800 the nine refers not to something happening directly to us, 1391 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.359 but rather to someone we love. 1392 01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.279 Oh fuck shit, uh love. 1393 01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:24.760 Love in fact fills the card and give it, give it, 1394 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:29.039 gives it its meaning. The blanket design shows Roses, symbol 1395 01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.840 of passion, alternating with the signs of the zodiac. In 1396 01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:34.800 the card's deepest sense, it shows a mind that takes 1397 01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:39.800 on itself all the sorrows of the world, the of 1398 01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:43.039 just man or Jewish legend, you know, talking about the 1399 01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:47.960 lamed Vava. It says, can we see a way out 1400 01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:51.399 of such dreadful pain? Both Buddha and Christ pictured the 1401 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:55.479 world as a place of unending sorrow. Yet both authos 1402 01:08:55.840 --> 01:09:00.439 also said that the tragedy remains always a half true, 1403 01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:03.439 that the universe is, that the universe seen as a whole, 1404 01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:08.359 brings joy and peace, And as Nietzsche wrote, of embracing 1405 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:12.479 existence so completely with such total ecstatic honesty, that we 1406 01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:17.239 would gladly repeat endlessly every moment of our lives, whatever 1407 01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.840 the pain. So that's interesting. We didn't get it reversed, 1408 01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:24.000 but I'll read it anyway. What the reverse meaning of 1409 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.119 the upside down or the reversed nine of swords is? 1410 01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:31.880 It says for the nine reversed weight gives us one 1411 01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:36.640 of the most suggestive formulas imprisonment, suspicion, doubt, reasonable fear, 1412 01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.520 and shame. The words delineate a state of mind, or 1413 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:42.319 rather a progression of states, the result when people retreat 1414 01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:46.119 into themselves from some problem they do not dare to confront. 1415 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:49.560 As with the card right side up, the reverse card 1416 01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:53.079 deals with our reaction to something outside ourselves, but here 1417 01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:56.479 it is oppression rather than tragedy. The key term is 1418 01:09:56.680 --> 01:10:01.640 reasonable fear, which can refer to say political oppression or 1419 01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:08.239 as of racial or sexual minorities or social oppression, a 1420 01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:11.760 feeling of being a scapegoat because of appearance, speech, etc. 1421 01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:16.399 Or simply the personal oppression of domineering family or partner. 1422 01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:19.359 The important thing is that the problem is real, but 1423 01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:22.319 because we cannot directly attack it, we tend to hide 1424 01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:27.600 in ourselves, keeping in our anger and resentment. Anger turned 1425 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:31.720 in on itself becomes depression, and from their suspicion, the 1426 01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:33.680 person who has laughed at as a child for her 1427 01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:36.279 big nose thinks that everyone is looking at her. The 1428 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:39.159 black person believes that any complaint at work is a 1429 01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:44.039 racial slur, and suspicion easily leads to self doubt and shame. 1430 01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:47.439 Often it does not even help, at least not completely, 1431 01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:49.960 if we rationally know that we have no reason to 1432 01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:53.039 feel ashamed, that in fact, those who have ridiculed or 1433 01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:57.159 oppressed us should feel the same. Unless the oppressed, self 1434 01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:02.359 doubting person takes action, expresses his or her anger, makes 1435 01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:05.840 real changes in his or her life, the hidden, the 1436 01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:13.159 deep hidden shame will remain so pretty pretty decent description there, 1437 01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:13.720 I would. 1438 01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:15.880 Say pretty bowed on dude, you know what I mean? 1439 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:21.039 That's pretty uh pretty detailed. I actually I wrote something 1440 01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:22.920 I wasn't even sure if I was going to share it. 1441 01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:27.000 This was just before starting recording tonight. So I think 1442 01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.159 it was just something that I wanted to write down, 1443 01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:32.439 just so that I would have it somewhere tangible in 1444 01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:35.239 case I kind of started to forget. But I mean, 1445 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:37.840 it's not only it's not even that deep, really, but like, 1446 01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:39.880 I just wrote it, and so let me see if 1447 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:44.680 I can read my handwriting, so I said, or I wrote, rather, 1448 01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:47.680 I had the most terrifying night of my life. I 1449 01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:50.960 never knew. I never knew how truly awful experiencing my 1450 01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:54.560 worst fear would be. Before the nightmare started, I noticed 1451 01:11:54.600 --> 01:12:00.039 the reality that I have grown accustomed to started to 1452 01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:05.439 take a backseat, while the closest thing to objective reality 1453 01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:09.119 took center stage. I know that even that was an 1454 01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:14.199 objective reality, because even this was being processed by my brain. 1455 01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:18.800 But it was interesting experiencing reality with seemingly no frame 1456 01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:24.800 of reference or preset model of understanding. I think our 1457 01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:28.039 brains have evolved to make things more tolerable, even in 1458 01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:31.920 things that we know to be true are just the 1459 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:35.640 truth that we accept. These truths that we accept are 1460 01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:39.840 always running in the background. This is why we are 1461 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:45.640 so quick to see when someone else's subjective understanding of 1462 01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:49.760 what is true is incorrect. It's only incorrect to the 1463 01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:52.800 models and presets that we have accepted in our own 1464 01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:56.880 personal journey. Something came to mind during this letting go 1465 01:12:56.960 --> 01:13:01.239 of what was comfortable. The universe is chaos and we 1466 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:04.720 harness it. This is what it means when you hear 1467 01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:08.319 spiritual teachers say that you create your own reality. You 1468 01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:11.279 are the magic because you take what is chaos and 1469 01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:14.479 turn it into something beautiful. So that was just something 1470 01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:16.479 that I, like, I don't know, it just came to me. 1471 01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:19.199 I just wanted to write it down, and you know 1472 01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:22.560 who knows, Like, to me, it made sense and to 1473 01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:23.479 do with that, which you will. 1474 01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:25.880 Oh that was beautiful. I'm happy you said it, dude. 1475 01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:27.960 I know you were thinking about not even mentioning it 1476 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:29.359 because you didn't know if it was going to be 1477 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:31.199 you know, if there was even going to be a 1478 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:33.560 moment for it. But yeah, I'm happy you did. 1479 01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:33.840 Dude. 1480 01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:35.680 That was that was awesome. 1481 01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:38.399 I appreciate that, man. Yeah, it was just something that 1482 01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:41.600 came to my mind too. While we were experiencing that. 1483 01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:44.439 It was like, oh, you know, like we've heard people 1484 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.319 like Daryl Anka mentioned it as far as like nothing 1485 01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:51.039 having any inherent meaning, you know, And so the meaning 1486 01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:54.000 that you that you express, or the meaning that you 1487 01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:56.880 feel in certain things is coming from you, like you 1488 01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:01.800 are creating that experience of having something means something, whether 1489 01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:06.399 it's something good, something bad, something amazing, something terrifying. This 1490 01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:10.319 is all something that you, yourself is putting that meaning onto. 1491 01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:13.680 And so I don't know, man, you know, when when 1492 01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:17.560 you feel that that comfortable reality slip away, you know, 1493 01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:20.439 and all of the things that your mind has adjusted 1494 01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:23.439 itself to to be like okay with to make things 1495 01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:26.760 feel comfortable, like the understanding that you know, maybe we 1496 01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:29.119 are just you know, floating around in space and everything 1497 01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:32.199 is just chaos, and there's really I mean, it's it's 1498 01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:35.640 really just uh crazy that we're even here, you know, 1499 01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:38.880 and here we are worrying about certain certain things in 1500 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:41.159 life that other people would look at that and go 1501 01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:43.520 that's like not even a big deal, right, you know, 1502 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:48.159 And so it's it's just this whole existence is subjective, dude, 1503 01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:51.640 And uh, I don't know. I guess the best thing 1504 01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:53.520 you can do is find the best meaning you can 1505 01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:55.920 for for your truths, you know, because I feel like it's. 1506 01:14:55.760 --> 01:15:00.399 All paradoxical, a one hundred percent yeah, and everything really 1507 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:03.520 is like we love to you know, we're we're I think, 1508 01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:07.039 just as humans, we always like to compare our situations 1509 01:15:07.079 --> 01:15:10.000 to everybody else's. You know, somebody got a nicer car, 1510 01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:12.880 or somebody got a bigger house, or somebody went on 1511 01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:15.880 a sick vacation that we can't afford, or somebody as 1512 01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:17.880 a super hot wife or a super you know, good 1513 01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:20.640 looking husband or whatever. Right, it's like we always want 1514 01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:23.840 and want and want and want. And actually it's funny. 1515 01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:25.920 And I'm not a big fan of this individual, but 1516 01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:28.600 he said something that I listened to earlier, and I 1517 01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.800 kind of jive with it. You know who Andrew Tate is, 1518 01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:35.439 right Ah, yeah, yeah, he's kind of a douchebag. But 1519 01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:38.279 he he did drop a little nugget which I really appreciated. 1520 01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:42.479 He said, you know, the thing that keeps most people 1521 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:48.039 going is the want and the dream, right Like, that's 1522 01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.560 kind of what is our fuel to keep going. He goes, 1523 01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:55.680 He goes, Look, I'm somebody I have multiple different houses 1524 01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.920 on multiple different islands, and I have yachts, and I 1525 01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.960 have all the nice cars, and I have all the 1526 01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:04.439 good things that money can buy. He goes, I have everything. 1527 01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:07.439 I don't want anything, and he goes, While that does 1528 01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.520 that might sound awesome to you, he goes, there's nothing 1529 01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:13.479 to really keep me motivated, and he goes. You think 1530 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:15.920 about it. The people, the elites whatever at the top, 1531 01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:18.600 that have everything that they want, the only thing that's 1532 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:21.399 left to chase is power. And that's why people get 1533 01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:23.960 corrupted because they already have everything they want. They already 1534 01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.159 have their dream wife or dream husband. They already have 1535 01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:28.439 all the houses and all the cars, and all the vacations. 1536 01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:31.920 They've been everywhere, they've done everything. It's like, you know, 1537 01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:35.680 I imagine that the six Flags is awesome, but if 1538 01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:37.720 you have to go there every single day, you know, 1539 01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:40.760 it's like I don't even want to ride that ride anymore. Right, 1540 01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:44.520 And so what he was saying is is that it's 1541 01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:47.279 basically like you want to stay in a point where 1542 01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:50.319 you're still keeping a dream, you know, and that's the 1543 01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:53.039 most important thing. And that's that's kind of how it is, 1544 01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:55.920 you know over here, is that you know it's always 1545 01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:57.560 going to be a dream. We want to be able 1546 01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:00.479 to talk to as many people as humanly power possible 1547 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:03.720 and kind of get out this message of consciousness and 1548 01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:07.640 spirituality and oneness, because we think that that's really going 1549 01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:11.319 to put a dent into the evil of the world. Imagine, 1550 01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:16.199 imagine if like if everybody, I don't know who was 1551 01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:19.000 it that said recently, like, dude, somebody just needs to 1552 01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:22.680 give a president some like some fucking DMT or ayahuasca 1553 01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:25.960 or something, and like realize that they're all just one 1554 01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:28.600 with everything. You're not going to drop a bomb on 1555 01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:33.079 anybody after that, you know, no. And so I just 1556 01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:35.319 love the idea of oneness. And so that's really what 1557 01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:37.560 we're trying to push over here. And along the way, 1558 01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:41.159 like figure out some fucking crazy abilities that we have 1559 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:45.000 almost like hidden from ourselves, because I think the more 1560 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.239 we start to realize that it all is one, and 1561 01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:50.159 the more we start to dive in deeper into ourselves 1562 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:55.039 and understanding ourselves, maybe these abilities, you know, whether it 1563 01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:59.479 is connecting to the astral realms or you know, telekinesis 1564 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:03.840 or or whatever psychic abilities, whatever the case may be, Like, 1565 01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:06.680 imagine how much more awesome that makes life, You know 1566 01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:09.119 what I'm saying. And I think that you know, that's 1567 01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:11.960 never going to be something like because people get tired 1568 01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.960 of their material gain after a while. This is not 1569 01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:18.560 material gain. You are literally turning yourself, damn near into 1570 01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:22.079 the super version of yourself. I think by working on 1571 01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:24.319 a lot of these things, whether it is seeing without 1572 01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:27.840 your eyes or being able to start a fire just 1573 01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:31.359 with your intention, you know, like these weird ass things 1574 01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:34.640 that seem like they're comic bookie. You know, like we 1575 01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:37.159 all watched Matilda when we were grown up, thinking about 1576 01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:39.800 how awesome that was. Turns out there's a lot of 1577 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:42.159 people that are doing that right now. And yes, there's 1578 01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:44.079 a lot of frauds out there, and that will always 1579 01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.520 be a thing. So everybody's always gonna want clicks and 1580 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:48.960 shares and likes and all this other shit. But there 1581 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:52.319 are some people out there who have mastered the ability 1582 01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:56.239 to master themselves and they understand that there is no 1583 01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:59.760 difference between you and me, and therefore you become lucid 1584 01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.199 in the dream. And once you become lucid in the dream, 1585 01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:03.479 it's fucking awesome. 1586 01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:06.880 You know. Now you're just creating your own reality, you know, 1587 01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.439 alongside of trying to learn different things like that, but 1588 01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:13.399 like knowledge itself, you know, really trying to garner as 1589 01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:16.119 much of that as possible, because the more knowledge you have, 1590 01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.640 the more things you understand, the the better you are 1591 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.960 to transmute any given situation. You know. Just the ability 1592 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:27.560 to fine tune your ability to transmute, I feel like 1593 01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:29.880 is a superpower all in itself, you know what I mean. 1594 01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:33.960 And so I think there's an infinite amount of knowledge 1595 01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:37.279 and things that we can gain from this, and so 1596 01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:40.119 we're never going to be done here, you know. That's 1597 01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:41.199 the good news. 1598 01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:44.000 Yeah, yeah, well, and I think that we all have to, 1599 01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:47.359 you know, in our own way, of course, we all 1600 01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:50.920 have to, you know, like break down the illusion a 1601 01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:55.800 little bit, because if if these things are real and 1602 01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:58.920 we've seen them firsthand, you know, just to get into 1603 01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:04.119 psychic abilities, we've seen them firsthand. With Shannon calling out, 1604 01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:07.920 you know, Sean's stepdad, and like she had no information 1605 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:10.520 on that, We gave her nothing. Shawn has never posted 1606 01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:13.800 anything on any social media's about him. It's all been 1607 01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:16.239 in house. I don't think we've ever even brought him 1608 01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:16.760 up on. 1609 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:20.039 A show, not up until then, No, I don't think so. 1610 01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:22.239 Not up until then. And she was able to describe 1611 01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:24.520 him to an absolute tee. Where did she get that from? 1612 01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:27.600 Where did that come from? Was that a good guess? No, 1613 01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:31.880 you can't guess that many details. Yeah, like, And so 1614 01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:33.560 that's what I'm trying to say, is and that's just 1615 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:36.359 one example. How about Cassandra? How many times has she 1616 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:40.760 ballparked something? You know what I mean? What else was there? 1617 01:20:40.840 --> 01:20:43.920 I mean? And they're oh, how about every potent to. 1618 01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:45.439 The point where I felt like she was just seeing 1619 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.479 right through me? Dude? You know, it's like it's making 1620 01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:51.159 me a little nervous how much she knew just by 1621 01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:51.800 looking at me? 1622 01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:55.199 And and how about every single tarot reading we've had. 1623 01:20:55.920 --> 01:20:58.640 You know, there's magic to this place and you just 1624 01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:02.640 have to tap into it, and it's obvious. And is 1625 01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:04.800 it easier said than done? I don't know. I think 1626 01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:06.359 that is you just got to get out of your 1627 01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:08.079 own way. Once you get out of your own way 1628 01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:10.680 and you allow the magic to just course around you, 1629 01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:14.399 it's it's there, like it's crazy. And so whenever you 1630 01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:16.640 do do a terror reading, and yes, terror reading, think 1631 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:21.520 about whatever you want. It is I can't put into 1632 01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:25.720 there isn't a statistic out there that could make it 1633 01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:29.720 any more egregious than it already. Is that every single 1634 01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.399 card that we draw is exactly the card that we 1635 01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:36.840 needed for the show. That's statistically impossible. 1636 01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:39.760 All we've learned, man, and something that it almost sounds 1637 01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:41.520 like it's too good to be true, you know, But 1638 01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:46.199 we are the synchronicity generators in our own realm of reality, 1639 01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:50.319 you know. I think back to the Alchemist, you know, 1640 01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:54.680 I feel like he was trying to understand the language 1641 01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:58.199 of the earth, you know, and almost to say that 1642 01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:01.319 the earth itself has one language. But I feel like 1643 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:04.239 the language between you and the Earth is going to 1644 01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:07.199 be different from from the next person into the next, 1645 01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:09.279 And so it's just a matter of you figuring out 1646 01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:12.680 what that language is between you and it, you know. 1647 01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:16.800 And that being your bubble of reality, you're, you know, 1648 01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:19.560 wherever you go, you notice a certain thing and that 1649 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:23.279 triggers something within your mind that has been leading you 1650 01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:26.239 to think something a certain way because of your subconscious mind, 1651 01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:28.199 and it is just like layered in and it's just 1652 01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:32.039 this whole, all encompassing experience, you know. And so the 1653 01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:35.000 more you understand that and getting out of your own way, 1654 01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:37.880 like you said, Man, I mean, this place is it's 1655 01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:38.520 a playground. 1656 01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:41.600 Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty damn crazy. And there are 1657 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.920 going to be people out there that maybe they talk 1658 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:49.840 about their communications with spirit guides, with deities, with planets, 1659 01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:52.560 with stars, with things that are in the astro realm, 1660 01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:57.279 whatever the case may be. You don't need to It's 1661 01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:00.920 like you can listen to somebody and you don't even 1662 01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:03.880 need to fully believe it or fully understand it. But 1663 01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:05.840 I think that whenever you get to a point where 1664 01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:09.279 you can listen to somebody like electro Nick, I have 1665 01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:13.239 never been able, I mean not knowingly. I don't think 1666 01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:17.600 I've ever been able to regularly have a connection with 1667 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:20.720 my spirit guides the way that Nick can, you know, 1668 01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:23.359 And that's kind of his path, that's what he's great at. 1669 01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:26.199 And by the way, look out for him. He's going 1670 01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:28.880 to be having a bigger presence on this show here 1671 01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:34.600 soon because he's the fucking man. But you know, you know, 1672 01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:37.880 and I think that everybody has their thing, you know, 1673 01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:41.279 whatever that is. Like some people are psychics, some people 1674 01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:43.680 are good at terror reading, some people are good at 1675 01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:47.159 seeing auras or whatever the case may be. Maybe you 1676 01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:49.760 can be one of those people with the telekinesis and 1677 01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:52.239 you can move the fucking aluminum foil all over the place, 1678 01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:55.399 or whatever. Right, it's like everybody has their own thing. 1679 01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:57.960 It's not to say that because you can't do it, 1680 01:23:57.960 --> 01:23:59.600 it's not real. You need to get out of that 1681 01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.920 frame of mind like that has to completely be a race, 1682 01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:06.279 because there's so much we don't understand. And at a 1683 01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:09.000 certain point, and even if like somebody is a Christian 1684 01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:11.800 and they're getting some kind of channeled message from Arcane 1685 01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:14.760 Jeel Michael or whatever, or from Jesus or God or 1686 01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:17.560 whatever the case may be, let that be their thing. 1687 01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:21.439 But one thing that we've kind of understood here recently 1688 01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.119 is that anytime somebody gets like a downloaded or a 1689 01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:28.279 channeled message or something like that, it doesn't have to 1690 01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:31.399 be for the entire world. It can be for you. 1691 01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:33.720 You don't need to worry about helping the entire world, 1692 01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:37.199 because once you change yourself, you change the world. That's how, 1693 01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:42.239 that's the rules, that's the way, you know, because if 1694 01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:45.520 every if this is a matrix or a simulation or 1695 01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.079 a dream or something like that, then the most important 1696 01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:52.319 part would be for you to wake up, Like that's 1697 01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:55.199 the most important part. And maybe once you wake up 1698 01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:58.319 everybody else you start to notice it almost seems like 1699 01:24:58.359 --> 01:25:00.239 everybody else is starting to wake up a little bit, 1700 01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:03.560 you know, just weirdly how that happens. 1701 01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:06.640 A little domino effect action. I think people they see 1702 01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:10.239 the authenticity or they see just the you know, the 1703 01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:12.720 whatever it is inside of you that's causing you to 1704 01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:14.920 be how you are, and you're just kind of speaking 1705 01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:17.439 your truth, and that, I think is is addictive. Man. 1706 01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:20.399 I think that that calls for people to want to 1707 01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:23.600 do the same for themselves, you know. And so yeah, man, 1708 01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:25.079 it's a it's a ripple effect. 1709 01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:30.840 Man. Hayden said. Oh wait, Skunky said, I tried shrooms 1710 01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:34.359 in my suit. It was not fun. Skunky's a furry 1711 01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:37.920 Oh okay, And so you know, dressing up and that's cool. 1712 01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.079 Everybody has their thing, I know, judgment on this half. 1713 01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:43.359 So doing shrooms inside of there, I imagine it'd be 1714 01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:45.159 pretty damn hot. 1715 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:45.600 Imagine. 1716 01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.600 But if you're ever going to trip balls, I would say, 1717 01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:51.840 take some shrooms, put on your furry suit and look 1718 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:52.359 in the mirror. 1719 01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:57.039 Oh yeah, you just didn't body. 1720 01:25:56.800 --> 01:25:59.600 That that would be That would be kind of sick. 1721 01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.960 It probably not a good idea because maybe then the 1722 01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:04.960 animal starts to come out. You can't tame it. I 1723 01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:05.279 don't know. 1724 01:26:05.720 --> 01:26:09.119 Don't take our ideas, you know, going forward this point on, 1725 01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:11.199 you know what I mean, just don't know what we're 1726 01:26:11.239 --> 01:26:11.800 talking about. 1727 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:14.159 Go off of your own intuition. We're we're just a 1728 01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:19.760 couple of Yeah, we don't know, we don't know. Hayden said, 1729 01:26:19.880 --> 01:26:21.920 where is the best place to buy a Tarot deck? 1730 01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:25.000 There's there's like a lot of metaphysical shops. I would 1731 01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.760 say go there first and support, you know, the the 1732 01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:30.600 people that are that are kind of doing it on 1733 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:32.880 their own. Those are the best places to go to. 1734 01:26:33.479 --> 01:26:36.119 Somebody who has, like you know, a little crystal shop, 1735 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:38.359 a little sage shop, something like that. Maybe it's a 1736 01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:41.720 metaphysical bookstore. A lot of times they'll have like tarot decks, 1737 01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:43.640 and they're those are the best people to try and 1738 01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:47.439 support because you know, it's not a big old corporation. 1739 01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:51.079 You're not buying it necessarily from the people that I 1740 01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:52.920 don't want to say it like this, but the people 1741 01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:55.800 that that need the money less. You know, some people 1742 01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:58.479 really devote their entire lives to this metaphysical shit, and 1743 01:26:58.520 --> 01:26:59.760 so you want to be able to support them, and 1744 01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.560 that best way. That's where I got I got a 1745 01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:06.239 few of my decks from Christie's shop over at Awakenings 1746 01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:08.880 in Baton Rouge in Louisiana. I got a few of 1747 01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:11.920 my decks there. I've gotten some from Amazon. I've gotten 1748 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:14.359 some from Barnes and Noble in books a million. You 1749 01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:18.920 can find them a lot over at bookstores. And yeah, 1750 01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:21.199 I mean, and some people actually make their own. So 1751 01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:23.680 if you can go like on Etsy and get like 1752 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:27.279 a like a like someone that you know, maybe they 1753 01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:31.159 only printed one hundred decks or something like that, those 1754 01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:34.079 are really cool. They always say that the best way 1755 01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:36.600 to get a tarot deck is to be gifted one. 1756 01:27:36.920 --> 01:27:40.039 But how often are you gonna be gifted one? There's 1757 01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:42.279 probably most people in your family think that they're they're 1758 01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.199 Devil's cards or something anyway, So how often you're gonna 1759 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:45.720 be gifted that? 1760 01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:48.079 You know? And I feel like it, And I could 1761 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:49.880 be wrong because I feel like at this point, due 1762 01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:51.960 there's no wrong way to do any of this. It's 1763 01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:54.960 really up to you and how you see fit, you know. 1764 01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:58.119 But I would say probably get the traditional deck first 1765 01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:00.239 if you don't have any yet, and just kind of 1766 01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:02.560 get familiar with those symbols like we are trying to do. 1767 01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:05.279 We're just trying to understand the symbolism of all of 1768 01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:07.520 the original cards that way going forward, if you get 1769 01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:10.560 a different deck, you can still kind of pull from 1770 01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:13.800 that understanding and because maybe the symbolism is the same 1771 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:16.039 but the artwork is just a little different or what 1772 01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:17.920 have you. But I don't know, I feel like getting 1773 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:20.680 the original deck was was a good move on for 1774 01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:24.079 me anyway, just to kind of really understand where where 1775 01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:26.159 this all came from, where the symbol what do the 1776 01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:26.840 symbols mean? 1777 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:32.159 And yeah, so for sure, Yeah, the rider weight deck. Yeah, 1778 01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.760 that's that's the traditional or the most traditional. I think 1779 01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:37.880 there's the there's the writer weight. Then there's also the 1780 01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:41.399 it's either the weight smith or Smith weight or something 1781 01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:43.960 like that. It was a it was another kind of 1782 01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:46.800 make of it between these two different creators back in 1783 01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.560 the day. But yeah, most people, whenever you talk about 1784 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:52.159 the original Tara deck, it's the writer the writer weight deck, 1785 01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:55.760 and that's the original symbolism from whenever they came up 1786 01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:59.680 with it back in the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, 1787 01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:03.039 whenever was I will say, if you're trying to learn 1788 01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:05.600 about it though, and they have a bunch of like 1789 01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:09.800 different tarot books, we still use our guided Tarot book. 1790 01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:12.680 So and this has been a huge help. But it's 1791 01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:15.319 actually on Amazon if you're in if you have like 1792 01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:18.760 an Amazon Prime account, they have it to where it's 1793 01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:20.560 like a Black Friday deal. They do the Black Friday 1794 01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:23.199 for like two weeks long. But I just saw it 1795 01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:26.560 earlier today. They have this book on Amazon for like 1796 01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:29.319 seven fifty dude. Yeah, super cheap. 1797 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.600 And it's the book we're covering now, the one that 1798 01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:33.800 we're getting into where it goes even deeper on each 1799 01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:36.840 of the cards is probably another good suggestion if you're 1800 01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:38.279 if you're still learning for sure. 1801 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:38.800 Yeah. 1802 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:41.880 Yeah. The one the the seventy eight Degrees of Wisdom 1803 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.359 by Rachel Pollock. That is a phenomenal book as well. 1804 01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:48.680 I think, dude, even that book is only fifteen twenty bucks, Like, 1805 01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:51.079 it's not that crazy. Uh Hayden, you had your hand 1806 01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:55.920 up there, sir. What were your thoughts? Everybody's always it's 1807 01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:58.680 so difficult to try and unmute. Oh pressure, uh yeah, 1808 01:29:58.720 --> 01:29:59.399 there you go. 1809 01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:01.199 All right, cool. 1810 01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:02.880 I was just wondering what the name of it was, 1811 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:05.279 but I think you just said it. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 1812 01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:08.399 So it's two different books though. The one that we 1813 01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:10.239 always read from at the end of every show. For 1814 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.680 the Tarot reading is called Guided Taro for Seamless Readings 1815 01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:17.439 by Stephanie Caponi, so big shout out to her. But 1816 01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:20.119 the one that we're getting in more depth is called 1817 01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:23.439 The Seventy Eight Degrees of Wisdom by Rachel Pollock. So 1818 01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:31.119 both really really good books. Yeah, no problem, and so yeah, damn, 1819 01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:32.479 I felt like there was something else I wanted to 1820 01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.920 say about that. Oh yeah. So if you're just starting 1821 01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:38.359 out and this has helped me out tremendously too, you 1822 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:41.520 can go on Amazon. I haven't been able to find 1823 01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:44.960 them in any like metaphysical store. Only on Amazon or TikTok. 1824 01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:49.920 Are these beginner Tarot cards. So basically what they have, 1825 01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:51.960 and I'll show it a little bit here. You'll see 1826 01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:54.720 the traditional tarot card right here, but then it'll have 1827 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:58.119 the meanings of the reversed and the right side up, 1828 01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:00.319 so it's this is the right side up expl nation 1829 01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:03.319 of the card. And they're just tiny, little one word descriptions. 1830 01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:06.039 So for example, I just pulled this card. Actually, Sean, 1831 01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:07.319 if you're ready for it, sir. 1832 01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:10.119 That oh I'm in, I'm ready. 1833 01:31:10.279 --> 01:31:13.520 You ready for the Tarot reading of the night. All right, 1834 01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:18.520 So we actually got the three of Pentacles tonight, and 1835 01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.119 if you want to see it, raid here there's a 1836 01:31:20.159 --> 01:31:24.359 man standing standing up on a bench and he's talking 1837 01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:29.600 to two initiates it seems like, and there's three of pentacles. 1838 01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:31.920 They're standing in between. They're standing next to a pillar. 1839 01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:35.600 And so but on this card, this is one of 1840 01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.920 those beginner cards. It has just a couple of one, 1841 01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:41.720 one and two word definitions for it, easy to like 1842 01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:44.479 try and remember, like little keywords like that. But this 1843 01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:50.439 three of Pencacles on this card stands for teamwork and collaboration, apprenticeship, 1844 01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:57.640 focused effort, growth and learning, mastery and recognition. So the 1845 01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:03.359 three of Penties, baby, So that's that's a your traditional 1846 01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:06.359 like starter deck. They're going to have stuff like that. 1847 01:32:06.439 --> 01:32:08.960 And then it'll tell you what the reversed side means. 1848 01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:11.159 And this deck is actually really awesome. It gives you 1849 01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:14.199 the chakra, it gives you the planet, it gives you 1850 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:20.359 the the zodiac, it'll it it has what element it is, 1851 01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:24.159 and it also will will give you a yes or 1852 01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:27.720 a no as well. So if you're trying to use 1853 01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:30.359 it as like you know, a magic eight ball or whatever, 1854 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:32.960 these are divination cards, and so if you're ever just 1855 01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:34.720 trying to get a yes or a no, pay no 1856 01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:36.800 mind to what even the card is. It'll tell you 1857 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:39.039 yes or no on there, which, yeah, is pretty cool. 1858 01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:40.880 I don't use it for that very rarely I do, 1859 01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:42.680 but you know, it's nice to have. 1860 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:45.520 Yeah, what's the chakra for this one? Specifically? 1861 01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:49.399 Wouldn't you be shocked if I said third eye? Baby? 1862 01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:51.760 Of course? Of course I love it. 1863 01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:55.600 Let's go, oh, yeah, the So it's the third eye chakra, 1864 01:32:55.760 --> 01:33:00.960 it's the Mars planet, the zodiac is Capricorn, and it 1865 01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:04.000 is the Earth element. So it's just cool shit like that, 1866 01:33:04.479 --> 01:33:04.680 you know. 1867 01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:07.560 And actually, if you think about it like that might 1868 01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:10.319 be all you need as far as like just to 1869 01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:12.439 trigger in your own mind what it is that you're 1870 01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:15.119 trying to figure out, you know, just those few keywords, 1871 01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:16.800 and then you sit with it in your own mind 1872 01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:18.880 and kind of decode it. You know. Sure, you can 1873 01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:21.840 go and read and see this long drawn out thing 1874 01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:24.640 and understanding of what that card is, but it might 1875 01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:26.680 only just take a few words, you know, and it's 1876 01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:29.319 really going to resonate with with what you're experiencing, and 1877 01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:32.159 then you sit with that with you yourself in a meditation 1878 01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:34.840 even you know, and go a little deeper. 1879 01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:38.239 Yeah, for sure. And that's something that I've been I've 1880 01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:41.000 been doing, like personal readings. I'm not to that point 1881 01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:43.239 to where I'm a full own, a full blown terror 1882 01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:45.920 reader yet. I'm still learning. But I still try and 1883 01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:49.479 do a Tarot card read every day and somebody, you know, 1884 01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:51.560 every so often, somebody will ask me if I can 1885 01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:54.359 do them a terror reading. Reach out to me, if 1886 01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:55.920 you want a terror reading, I'll do it. I'll do 1887 01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:58.720 it for you for free. Like it's I'm still learning, 1888 01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:00.880 so I'm not ever going to charge for it yet anyway, 1889 01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:05.199 but I feel like, you know, there are people that obviously, 1890 01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:08.239 like you want to pay more experienced people for that 1891 01:34:08.359 --> 01:34:10.960 kind of shit because they're like fully tapped in. They've 1892 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:13.239 been doing it every day for several hours a day. 1893 01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:15.840 I'm not to that point yet, but I would love 1894 01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:17.479 to get to that point where I can know a 1895 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:19.520 little bit more in depth. But what's great about these 1896 01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:22.800 beginner cards is that you know, if you do like 1897 01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:26.359 a three or a four or a five card spread, 1898 01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:29.159 you can look at just a couple of the words 1899 01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:31.600 and you put them in order and everything, and they 1900 01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:34.880 almost paint an entire story. I did one just like 1901 01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:37.880 last week for somebody who I had never met yet 1902 01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:41.880 never met in person, like only messaged on social media's right, 1903 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:44.520 And she asked me to do a reading for and 1904 01:34:44.640 --> 01:34:46.560 I got it. It was just a three card draw 1905 01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:49.960 and I was able to piece together what she was 1906 01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:52.119 going through in her life just from a three card spread. 1907 01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:54.760 And I was like, am I getting this shit? Or 1908 01:34:54.760 --> 01:35:00.319 what dude? What's going on? You know that it's built 1909 01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:05.479 in you know? So yeah, the Three of Pentacles. We're 1910 01:35:05.479 --> 01:35:08.640 going to read it from the Handy Dandy Guided Tarot Book. 1911 01:35:09.119 --> 01:35:12.600 So it says, prosperous expansion is at your fingertips as 1912 01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:16.680 you confidently walk through new doors of opportunity. You've already 1913 01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:18.960 worked to create balance in your life, and you're now 1914 01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:22.560 ready for the uh, the expansive opportunities presented by the 1915 01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.479 Three of Pencacles card. Here we see three people gathered 1916 01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:28.319 in a lively conversation, collaborating on a plan that will 1917 01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:31.000 change their lives for the better. The man standing on 1918 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:34.800 the bench is the craftsman. He has the valuable expertise 1919 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:39.039 and is confidently standing above the other two figures explaining 1920 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:43.159 his vision. Three pentacles carved into the architectural detail show 1921 01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:47.640 that this collaborative work is stable and long lasting. Wow, 1922 01:35:49.079 --> 01:35:52.600 that's a solid reading. The spiritual aspect of it says, 1923 01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:56.800 increase confidence amidst fears leads you to grow and expand 1924 01:35:57.039 --> 01:36:00.399 in many ways. Consider working on your skills at public speaking, 1925 01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:04.359 were becoming visibly active within a community, Establishing your presence 1926 01:36:04.399 --> 01:36:06.960 and growing your audience and your field of expertise will 1927 01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:07.920 lead to fulfillment. 1928 01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:12.479 Let's go, dude. I think it's a people underestimate the 1929 01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.520 exponential growth that can be had by by you know, 1930 01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:18.199 by yourself. You know, the things that you learn over time, 1931 01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:21.359 you forget you learned, and then before you know it, Man, 1932 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:23.720 you're doing things that you never could have imagined. You 1933 01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:25.399 know what I'm saying. You just get to this point 1934 01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:28.439 where things are just easier for you, you know, because 1935 01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:30.520 you've already gone through some of the struggles, You've already 1936 01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:32.479 had some of the pitfalls, You've already had to go 1937 01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:35.199 through some of the lessons. Maybe it was a nightmare, 1938 01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:37.640 you know what I mean. But but yeah, once you 1939 01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:40.399 get to this certain level, man, things just start to flow. 1940 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:42.319 You don't have to you don't have to question things. 1941 01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:47.600 Oh yeah, dude, yeah, it's oh my god, that is 1942 01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:49.720 so crazy what you just said there, Ben. I got 1943 01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:55.279 to read that out real quick. So Ben said, I'm 1944 01:36:55.319 --> 01:36:58.560 a lion in the mirror without a suit, even on 1945 01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:02.840 even on mushrooms at least, dude, let me tell you, 1946 01:37:02.920 --> 01:37:06.720 I forgot to mention that aspect. So in that trip, 1947 01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:09.039 I'm still losing my fucking mind, right. And it was 1948 01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:11.279 at the end and I decided to look in the 1949 01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:14.560 mirror because Sean almost looked like he had seen a 1950 01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:16.079 ghost whenever he looked at me, and I was like, 1951 01:37:16.079 --> 01:37:18.359 I want to see what he's seeing. And it was 1952 01:37:18.399 --> 01:37:19.920 at the end of the trip where I was done, 1953 01:37:19.960 --> 01:37:22.039 I wasn't even tripping anymore. I went to the bathroom 1954 01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:23.960 to like go splashing water on my face or whatever, 1955 01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:28.000 and I look in the mirror. My hair is crazy, dude, 1956 01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:33.199 And immediately I thought, man, my hair almost looked like 1957 01:37:33.239 --> 01:37:36.439 a fucking lion's mane, Like it just reminded me of 1958 01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:38.720 like a lion or something like that, because I have, like, 1959 01:37:39.079 --> 01:37:40.960 you know, this dirty blonde hair. And I don't know. 1960 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:42.880 I was still coming off of the trip, so I 1961 01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:45.720 don't maybe I'll see some weird shit. But and so 1962 01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:47.560 just the fact that you say that I thought was 1963 01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:51.319 pretty cool. Oh and by the way, for the people 1964 01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:54.159 that were asking why I shaved my beard off, it 1965 01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:58.199 was because I felt like I was kind of reborn 1966 01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:02.479 in that moment. And plus it was also a little itchy. 1967 01:38:02.520 --> 01:38:04.640 I was kind of getting tired of it. I don't know, 1968 01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:08.079 but it was it was more significant and symbolic in 1969 01:38:08.119 --> 01:38:11.159 the sense of I just wanted this to be the 1970 01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:14.000 starting point to where I'm now new and everything that 1971 01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:17.960 everything else that comes from that is only going to 1972 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:21.399 be new. Almost. It almost like legit. And Sean mentioned 1973 01:38:21.399 --> 01:38:24.800 this almost felt like a fucking baptism on some real shit. 1974 01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:27.640 Yeah. I went into the to the bathroom later it 1975 01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:30.239 was probably like two hours later, who knows. Time was 1976 01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:32.000 weird at that point, but I went in there and 1977 01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:34.600 used the restroom, and then I was walking out and 1978 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:37.399 I looked over and I saw that the bathtub still 1979 01:38:37.439 --> 01:38:39.279 had like a few inches of water in it, like 1980 01:38:39.319 --> 01:38:41.520 the little stopper kind of went down in it, and 1981 01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.359 it kind of blocked the water from escaping, you know, 1982 01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:47.039 and going down the drain, and and I was just 1983 01:38:47.079 --> 01:38:49.920 like thinking about that, and then I unplugged it. And 1984 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:52.000 the water went down the drain and it was like, 1985 01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:56.319 in that moment, to me, it felt like the closing 1986 01:38:57.039 --> 01:39:00.119 of like a ritual or the closing of something that 1987 01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:02.359 was like this big thing that happened, and it was 1988 01:39:02.439 --> 01:39:06.079 just like being washed down. And I was like, oh 1989 01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:09.600 my god, like I just closed the ceremony or whatever 1990 01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:11.800 that was, you know, because it did feel that way. 1991 01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:14.840 It felt like something major fling. 1992 01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:16.279 It felt like blown out the candle. 1993 01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:22.000 Yeah, dude, Yeah, that's exactly like I was closing it out. Yeah, 1994 01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:25.079 holy fuck, he just went through it. 1995 01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:26.840 Yeah yeah. 1996 01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:30.159 And that being said, dude, I can't even imagine being 1997 01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:33.119 a shaman. I can't imagine that people go through that. 1998 01:39:33.359 --> 01:39:37.079 Can you imagine, like you and someone's acting like the 1999 01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:39.800 way that the point that I saw you, man, just 2000 01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:43.159 looked so different from what I'm used to that I 2001 01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:46.119 can't imagine somebody does that for like a living or 2002 01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:50.319 for their life. You know, like, imagine seeing somebody like that. Man, Like, 2003 01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:52.119 maybe you get used to it, maybe you start to 2004 01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:55.399 really understand what it looks like when someone's like going 2005 01:39:55.439 --> 01:39:58.760 through it and they're really exploring the deepest depths of 2006 01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:00.960 their mind, you know, and you get accustomed to that, 2007 01:40:01.079 --> 01:40:04.680 but I definitely was not accustomed to that well. 2008 01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:08.680 And the thing is is that we regularly talk about transmutation. 2009 01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:12.680 We regularly talk about how fear is a vibration that 2010 01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:15.119 you can that on the other end of that poll 2011 01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:18.439 is you know, the opposite of fear, you know, which 2012 01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:21.279 is joy and happiness and that and all that kind 2013 01:40:21.279 --> 01:40:24.960 of you know, the good stuff. And even in the moment, 2014 01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:28.359 I couldn't transmute it, like, there was no transmuting that 2015 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:30.720 it was. I was gonna be in for a ride 2016 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:33.680 no matter what. You know, I'm buckled in. You ain't 2017 01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:35.840 getting off this ride midway, you know what I mean? 2018 01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:40.720 And so and so I would say that even somebody 2019 01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:43.760 who is a season vet, maybe they've done DMT a 2020 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:47.239 fucking thousand times, like your boy Butler or like Danny 2021 01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:50.319 Gohler and people like that who have just who are 2022 01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:54.600 so like regular with it. I mean, I'm sure timing 2023 01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:58.319 is everything with this kind of stuff, But pulling somebody 2024 01:40:58.359 --> 01:41:01.199 out of that on a regular base, there's no fucking 2025 01:41:01.279 --> 01:41:03.640 way you could. You couldn't pay me. I would rather 2026 01:41:03.680 --> 01:41:05.960 be a police officer, and you couldn't pay me enough 2027 01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:06.800 to do that job either. 2028 01:41:07.399 --> 01:41:09.600 Yeah, That's what I was thinking. I was like, holy shit, 2029 01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:12.960 people do this like this is their life. They're shamans, 2030 01:41:13.159 --> 01:41:16.840 you know. They see the darkest bit of somebody escaping 2031 01:41:16.880 --> 01:41:20.600 their body. You know, on the regular probably people probably 2032 01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:24.479 break down and start crying or screaming or whatever, and 2033 01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:27.439 I'm like, oh my god, dude, I can't believe that. 2034 01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:30.039 I don't ever want to experience that again. Man. 2035 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:33.239 You know, dude, what's crazy is I'm not a crier. 2036 01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:36.960 Like I really don't cry, like I legit. I might 2037 01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:41.199 cry regularly before we kind of got into this show. 2038 01:41:41.960 --> 01:41:45.359 I might cry like once every four or five years. 2039 01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:47.840 Like it is not common and it has to be 2040 01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:53.880 something really fucked up for me to cry, right, Eh, dude, 2041 01:41:54.279 --> 01:41:56.159 It's now been like two out of the last three 2042 01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.399 times I went to visit. You havn't liked these emotional. 2043 01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:04.319 Breakdowns, dominator. Dude. Maybe I'm the problem. Yeah, maybe I'm 2044 01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:04.880 the problem. 2045 01:42:04.920 --> 01:42:06.279 I tell you what, though, it feels good to get 2046 01:42:06.279 --> 01:42:08.560 it out. Like, no, I'm not even trying to be 2047 01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:10.560 lame or anything like that. It's good to cry every 2048 01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:13.720 now and again, you know, just to fucking I don't know, 2049 01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:17.800 it's almost like expressing the glands, you know what I mean, 2050 01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:18.880 it's a little. 2051 01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:21.399 That's part of the programming to even think that it's 2052 01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:23.960 a weakness, you know what I mean as as dudes, 2053 01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:27.079 you know, growing up, our dad would say, oh, you know, 2054 01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:30.000 boys don't cry. You know, like I know that I'm 2055 01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:33.439 not special in that case, you know. And so that's 2056 01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:36.760 just been something that we've heard growing up. Boys don't cry, 2057 01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:39.520 boys don't cry, and so be a man, be a 2058 01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:40.159 man and cry. 2059 01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:45.199 Yeah, yeah, that'said. Actually, there was a new listener on 2060 01:42:45.239 --> 01:42:48.359 the show and she commented. I think it was a 2061 01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:51.439 I think it was a girl that commented saying that, oh, 2062 01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:54.520 it's so nice to see a spiritual podcast with the 2063 01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:58.119 divine masculine. I'm like, uh, yeah, I guess there really 2064 01:42:58.119 --> 01:42:58.960 isn't that many of them. 2065 01:42:59.039 --> 01:43:02.680 Huh. You know, it's what It's what we needed. 2066 01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:06.840 Yeah, yeah, it was. It was time. So the White 2067 01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:09.479 Boy Wizard said, I got the hottest Asian waitress right now, 2068 01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:11.720 who's got the best pickup line? Help a homie out? 2069 01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:15.720 Got nothing? Man? I wish I could help you. 2070 01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:18.239 I'm I'm normally really good on the spot. If I 2071 01:43:18.319 --> 01:43:20.239 was there with you, I would I would probably holler 2072 01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:24.199 at her for you, But. 2073 01:43:22.760 --> 01:43:25.359 Bro, where you are, let me get some wingman action, 2074 01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:29.039 you know, divorce and haven't even been on a date yet, 2075 01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:31.760 so I forgot how to do this. I just I 2076 01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:34.199 just stare at him until they're like, oh, okay, I 2077 01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:34.560 gotta go. 2078 01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:37.960 Well, I can tell you. I can tell you Jacob's 2079 01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:43.800 favorite pickup line. It's I don't suggest it, but Jacob's 2080 01:43:43.800 --> 01:43:44.800 favorite pickup line. 2081 01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:47.960 This kid way over to the lady. 2082 01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:51.119 No, he just goes up to a random chick and says, 2083 01:43:51.840 --> 01:43:53.319 show me up. Ba hole. 2084 01:43:58.520 --> 01:43:58.880 H. 2085 01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:03.000 He's as Louisiana as it gets, bro. Yeah, he told 2086 01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:05.119 me that. I was like, there's no way you introduce 2087 01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:06.960 yourself like that, and he goes no. They actually get 2088 01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:09.600 a laugh out of it. I'm like, I mean, yeah, 2089 01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:12.239 so just try and be funny. I guess whatever word 2090 01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:17.520 Yeah yeah, but I'm actually in Louisiana for the next Yeah, 2091 01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:20.960 that's all you need, dude. Even listening to like whenever 2092 01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:23.159 we do the Cult member live shows on the Cult 2093 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:27.079 of Conspiracy and hearing about how Spirit Animal is somehow 2094 01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:30.359 like a pimp, I'm like, how did that happen? 2095 01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:33.520 You know? I see it. He's just authentic, is what 2096 01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:35.239 it is. You know people like that. 2097 01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:37.840 Yeah, he is authentic. He's funny, you know, in his 2098 01:44:37.880 --> 01:44:41.880 own way. But I'm like, what the ladies, he just 2099 01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:44.960 got it, you know. But anyway, Yeah, just be authentic, 2100 01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:47.079 be funny. That's the best way they like that shit. 2101 01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:52.720 Let's see, Hayden said, ask her what that sushi roll do? 2102 01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:55.920 What that aura do? 2103 01:44:56.720 --> 01:45:01.039 Yeah, Hayden said, you were born again, baby? I think 2104 01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:06.000 so born again again. The phoenix rises, it has to 2105 01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:10.000 burn from time to time, which is funny because the 2106 01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:16.880 phoenix burned down in Phoenix, so because we were in Phoenix, 2107 01:45:16.880 --> 01:45:19.159 Arizona when that happened. So it's kind of weird, pretty 2108 01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:25.520 symbolic actually, if you think about it. Uh, Okay, well, 2109 01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:27.520 I guess I guess that's where we're gonna wrap it up. 2110 01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:29.880 We're gonna get over the meditation. We really just wanted 2111 01:45:29.880 --> 01:45:33.039 this show to try and you know, just spill it 2112 01:45:33.079 --> 01:45:34.920 out there. We like to keep y'all kind of up 2113 01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:38.399 to date on our day to day things, especially something 2114 01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:44.159 as ground shattering and reality breaking as that was. It 2115 01:45:44.239 --> 01:45:46.479 was something that we're never gonna forget for the remainder 2116 01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:50.199 of our lives. It was something that brought so much compassion, 2117 01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:53.880 like towards the rest of the world so much love 2118 01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:57.199 and just showing that, like in my mind and in 2119 01:45:57.279 --> 01:46:01.479 Shawn's reality, that whenever fear is made manifest, you never 2120 01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:04.399 want to You not only not want to experience that again, 2121 01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:07.520 you don't want anybody to ever experience that. And so 2122 01:46:07.600 --> 01:46:09.680 you actually want to bring the opposite. You want to 2123 01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:12.920 bring the love and the compassion and the empathy and 2124 01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:15.880 just try and be more understanding to everybody else out there. 2125 01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:19.640 Everybody's walking the same damn path. But the secret is 2126 01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:22.399 is that everybody is actually you. So why would you 2127 01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:25.720 ever be mean or be you know, not have the patience, 2128 01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:27.840 or not have the love, or not have the empathy 2129 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:31.760 for you, you know, especially in a time whenever there 2130 01:46:31.960 --> 01:46:35.359 is such crazy chaos already happening in the world, you 2131 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:36.920 don't want to be anything else that's going to light 2132 01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:37.880 any more of that fire. 2133 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:43.640 So in our eyes, level of compassion and empathy reached. Dude, 2134 01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:46.479 I didn't even know it was possible. And that's no bullshit. 2135 01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:48.720 I'm not even trying to pump this up to being 2136 01:46:48.760 --> 01:46:52.199 something that it's not like, no bullshit, dude, I'm just 2137 01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:56.760 I feel so complete and whole and grateful and I 2138 01:46:56.760 --> 01:46:58.840 love all you guys, dude, and I'm glad that we 2139 01:46:58.840 --> 01:47:00.960 were able to share this with you guys. And because 2140 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:03.680 we know that this is kind of like our therapy session. 2141 01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:05.680 Let's be real, right, you know what I mean, Like 2142 01:47:05.720 --> 01:47:07.680 we needed this just as much as you guys do. 2143 01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:10.880 And I'm glad we uh, I'm glad we had this 2144 01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:11.359 show tonight. 2145 01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:16.680 Did Yeah, yeah, it was. It was good. So we 2146 01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:19.520 appreciate everybody hanging out with us. Go ahead, white boy Wizard. 2147 01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:24.000 Well, I'm just gonna stay you know, whenever I could 2148 01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:26.600 tell that you're headed that way a couple of weeks 2149 01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:29.439 ago and you're bashing on the Christians over there, I'm 2150 01:47:29.479 --> 01:47:32.399 like channel and ship, I'm like gains like because that 2151 01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:36.079 is it's so dickhead and ship dude. Anyways, I just 2152 01:47:36.119 --> 01:47:38.880 wanted to much props. I love you, bro, and I'm 2153 01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:41.920 glad you're freakingly I'm glad you do things the way 2154 01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:44.159 that you do and don't just you know, let your 2155 01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:46.000 emotions whatever, blah blah blah. 2156 01:47:46.039 --> 01:47:48.560 So we keep doing you. We'll stay here to support you. 2157 01:47:48.760 --> 01:47:49.880 Fucking love you both. 2158 01:47:50.039 --> 01:47:53.680 Hang love you, dude, appreciate it. Yeah, that's uh. And 2159 01:47:53.720 --> 01:47:55.720 you know, just to to speak on that a little 2160 01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:59.800 bit too, so I don't even want to say that 2161 01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:03.039 the So I did two episodes on the Cult of 2162 01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:05.640 Conspiracy about a month month and a half ago something 2163 01:48:05.720 --> 01:48:08.520 like that, and it was back to back episodes, and 2164 01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:12.760 I got major backlash on it, like crazy backlash. So 2165 01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:16.600 I did an episode on the first one was about 2166 01:48:16.640 --> 01:48:19.680 how the Noah's Ark story made no fucking sense, and 2167 01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:22.680 the next one was I even titled it because I 2168 01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:24.920 was getting a little cocky with it that the Nephelum 2169 01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:28.239 were fake and gay and not a lot of people 2170 01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:31.000 like that. And there was a lot of people that 2171 01:48:31.039 --> 01:48:33.199 were like, I'm not listening to this shit anymore, and 2172 01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:35.720 fucking Jacob, he doesn't know how to you know what 2173 01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:37.439 I mean. It was just like they were talking shit 2174 01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:40.399 on both of us, really. But then there was also 2175 01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:43.239 like a lot of like, oh, thank you, Like there 2176 01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:45.199 were even some Christians that were like, dude, thank you, 2177 01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:48.319 I appreciate you for like bringing this up because you 2178 01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:50.720 know now it makes me want to read it a 2179 01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:53.760 little deeper and stuff like that. And I was like, man, 2180 01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:54.560 that's really awesome. 2181 01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:54.760 You know. 2182 01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:56.680 I love the people that are very open minded that 2183 01:48:56.720 --> 01:48:59.960 can take constructive criticism, like if there are holes in 2184 01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:02.760 your story, I mean, sure, you can just sit there 2185 01:49:02.840 --> 01:49:04.800 and just believe it, Like there's nothing wrong with just 2186 01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:07.760 having blind faith or blind belief. That's totally fine, But 2187 01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:11.000 for the people that need it to fucking make actual 2188 01:49:11.079 --> 01:49:13.840 sense logically. I mean, I know we're talking about the 2189 01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:18.159 Bible and anything spiritual, it's the exact opposite of logic, right, 2190 01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:22.159 But if you're talking about the Old Testament, they always 2191 01:49:22.159 --> 01:49:26.279 talk about how the Old Testament is historical. If your 2192 01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:30.680 historical history is illogical, then it doesn't make sense, and 2193 01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:33.800 you can't call it historical. If it's illogical, doesn't make sense, 2194 01:49:34.039 --> 01:49:37.159 you can't. You can't be one and not the other, right, 2195 01:49:37.279 --> 01:49:40.000 And so that's what I was trying to call out. 2196 01:49:40.840 --> 01:49:43.159 People didn't really like it, and we got a bunch 2197 01:49:43.199 --> 01:49:45.119 of hate and a bunch of crazy stuff. And I'm 2198 01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:47.560 not gonna lie like this was always the plan. Just 2199 01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:49.960 everybody knows. It wasn't like I jumped shit from the 2200 01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:52.239 cult because I couldn't handle it. I saw a couple 2201 01:49:52.279 --> 01:49:55.479 of people saying that, I'm like, if you only knew 2202 01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:57.399 me in real life, you would know how many fucks 2203 01:49:57.439 --> 01:50:00.560 I actually have to give, which is it's bare early one. 2204 01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:04.920 It's barely one. The fucks I give are the people 2205 01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:08.560 that are open minded, the ones that, look, you can 2206 01:50:08.600 --> 01:50:10.640 disagree with me, you don't have to agree with me 2207 01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:13.039 to be open minded. I mean, it's the what is 2208 01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:15.079 it like Aristotle that said that it's the mark of 2209 01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:18.840 an intelligent man to listen to something and not and 2210 01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:21.119 not have to worry about agreeing or disagreeing with it, 2211 01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:23.600 you know, something along those lines. I kind of butchered that. 2212 01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:26.680 But I think that that's the most important part is 2213 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:30.960 to be open minded and you know, kind of be 2214 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:34.720 open to constructive criticism about your beliefs. And look, and 2215 01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:37.760 like I said, if there are things that you're just 2216 01:50:37.880 --> 01:50:43.000 okay with not understanding to the fullness that you need, 2217 01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:46.760 then that's okay. You know, everybody's different, everybody's wired different. 2218 01:50:48.439 --> 01:50:49.800 But yeah, I just want to throw it out there 2219 01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:52.159 that those couple of shows are not the reason why 2220 01:50:52.199 --> 01:50:54.439 I left the Cult of Conspiracy. Me and Sean I 2221 01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:56.640 have said this for the past year and a half 2222 01:50:57.159 --> 01:51:00.800 that my endgame was always to do metaphor time, hasn't it? 2223 01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:04.600 John? Oh yeah, and you're following your herd, dude. You 2224 01:51:04.640 --> 01:51:06.520 know some people are going to be upset about it. 2225 01:51:06.520 --> 01:51:08.960 It's fine. And the thing that I look at that 2226 01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:11.239 and I go, some people just need something to be 2227 01:51:11.319 --> 01:51:13.239 mad at, and that's just what it is. And if 2228 01:51:13.279 --> 01:51:15.840 you're that character for them, you know what I mean, 2229 01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:17.840 it is what it is. They don't know you how 2230 01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:18.279 you do. 2231 01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:21.359 And it was the right time. I'll say that, like 2232 01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:24.960 raven Lee. If we didn't have raven Lee, and if 2233 01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:27.840 Jacob didn't feel comfortable with who the new co host 2234 01:51:27.960 --> 01:51:30.760 was going to be, I wouldn't have stepped away whenever 2235 01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:33.359 I did. But for me personally, it was the right 2236 01:51:33.399 --> 01:51:35.479 time and everything just so happened to fall in place. 2237 01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:38.279 Raven Lee was available. She was willing to take on 2238 01:51:38.319 --> 01:51:41.720 the responsibility of the of the everyday shoots, which is great. 2239 01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:43.600 But I felt like I was being pulled in two 2240 01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:47.760 very different directions because where I was. And this is 2241 01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:53.760 nothing against conspiracies at all, because I was built on conspiracies, right, 2242 01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:57.119 Like that's how I got into this game, was conspiracies. 2243 01:51:57.359 --> 01:51:59.920 But I almost felt like I was doing the world 2244 01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:04.560 almost a disservice by inspiring fear because and that's that's 2245 01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:06.279 never what we were trying to do on the Cult. 2246 01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:06.800 It was. 2247 01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:10.000 It was always about bringing awareness to certain things. It 2248 01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:13.479 wasn't to spark fear. But I feel like some people 2249 01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:15.960 just like to be scared, and I'm like, I don't 2250 01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:18.600 want to play into that. You know, like that's a 2251 01:52:18.680 --> 01:52:21.439 sickness whenever you like to just be scared of everything. 2252 01:52:21.800 --> 01:52:24.600 I want to try and bring out the best in 2253 01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:28.319 the individual into the From individual to individual, everybody's different, 2254 01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:31.520 but I want to try and bring out like the 2255 01:52:31.640 --> 01:52:34.159 light inside of you, the love inside of you, the 2256 01:52:34.239 --> 01:52:37.680 fucking magical, psychic, goddamn powers inside of you. I don't 2257 01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:40.039 want you to just be sitting at home scared of 2258 01:52:40.119 --> 01:52:42.640 chemtrails and scared of World War III. Who's that going 2259 01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:44.079 to help? I mean, if look, if there's gonna be 2260 01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:46.279 a nuke that's dropped, there's nothing you can do about it. Anyway, 2261 01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:48.760 You were all toast right, so there's no point in 2262 01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:53.399 being scared about it. Also, I got so damn tired 2263 01:52:53.600 --> 01:52:56.039 about talking about politics, and I've said that time and 2264 01:52:56.079 --> 01:52:58.560 time again. I can't with it. There's not a single 2265 01:52:58.600 --> 01:53:01.279 political party that I agree with anymore. I have separated 2266 01:53:01.279 --> 01:53:05.239 myself from that entirely and completely. I don't have the 2267 01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:07.560 patience for it. I'm not one of those people that 2268 01:53:07.720 --> 01:53:10.000 likes to sit back and wait for other people to 2269 01:53:10.039 --> 01:53:13.760 take care of the world's problems. I would much rather 2270 01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:16.359 just focus with what I got going on in my 2271 01:53:16.399 --> 01:53:18.279 own life rather than worrying about what's going on in 2272 01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:19.600 the entire world personally. 2273 01:53:20.600 --> 01:53:23.079 You know, you want to change the world, change yourself, 2274 01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:25.840 you know. So that's where it starts, and that's where 2275 01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:27.960 we are here on minimistics, that. 2276 01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:31.720 Is where we are, baby, so Ben said, faking gay baby, 2277 01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:35.159 Hell yeah, talking about the nephilone. Oh, by the way, 2278 01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:36.720 I did, there was something else I wanted to say. 2279 01:53:37.079 --> 01:53:40.520 So ever since those two episodes, I didn't want to 2280 01:53:40.520 --> 01:53:43.399 do any more of those episodes anymore. Especially me and 2281 01:53:43.439 --> 01:53:46.359 Jacob were button heads about like our beliefs about Israel. 2282 01:53:46.399 --> 01:53:48.199 I'm not even going to get into that. I don't 2283 01:53:48.199 --> 01:53:50.880 trust Israel. I don't trust in net and Yahoo or 2284 01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:53.359 none of that shit. And some people have very differing beliefs. 2285 01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:56.720 That's totally fine. So you know that I wanted to 2286 01:53:56.800 --> 01:53:58.840 keep on talking about that, I couldn't. But as far 2287 01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:00.039 as the Bible goes. 2288 01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:00.479 And. 2289 01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:04.640 You know, digging a little bit deeper into that kind 2290 01:54:04.640 --> 01:54:08.560 of stuff, I think we're definitely going to touch on 2291 01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:11.359 that a little bit in the future. So if you 2292 01:54:11.560 --> 01:54:15.359 enjoyed those kind of episodes, you know, we are planning 2293 01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:17.479 and we had talked about on the Cult that we 2294 01:54:17.479 --> 01:54:21.920 were going to do, like how the apostle Paul either 2295 01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:25.520 never existed or he was an insider or something like that, 2296 01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:30.920 because very contradictory messages between Paul and Jesus. Even whenever 2297 01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:35.000 Jesus came back, he wasn't telling to his followers what 2298 01:54:35.079 --> 01:54:38.279 Paul said, which never made any fucking sense. Right, So 2299 01:54:38.399 --> 01:54:41.159 we're going to be getting into you know, that kind 2300 01:54:41.159 --> 01:54:44.800 of stuff over here because absolute free speech over here, 2301 01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:49.159 free realm of thought. You can agree to disagree. I mean, 2302 01:54:49.279 --> 01:54:52.039 it's totally fine. It's just we want to be able 2303 01:54:52.079 --> 01:54:53.840 to bring that that kind of stuff up, and a 2304 01:54:53.840 --> 01:54:58.079 lot of people seem very interested in learning what it's 2305 01:54:58.239 --> 01:55:01.840 like if you are a Christian. How much different is 2306 01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:05.640 your life if you go by Jesus's actual sayings and 2307 01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:09.600 not Paul's, who never met Jesus, by the way, never 2308 01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:14.319 never in reality, like there's any never, any of that. So, yeah, 2309 01:55:14.359 --> 01:55:15.720 we're gonna be getting into a little bit of that 2310 01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:19.520 here soon. But yeah, not gonna keep on ballparking here. 2311 01:55:19.560 --> 01:55:21.640 We appreciate you guys coming to hang out with us tonight. 2312 01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:23.319 It was a fun show. Thank you so much for 2313 01:55:23.399 --> 01:55:26.439 listening to our story. It'll be something that we never 2314 01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:29.239 forget about and thank you for, you know, kind of 2315 01:55:29.479 --> 01:55:31.239 hearing us cry about it here for a little bit. 2316 01:55:33.399 --> 01:55:35.119 It was just getting it out, you know, like it 2317 01:55:35.159 --> 01:55:37.760 feels good to get it out, Like you can only 2318 01:55:37.840 --> 01:55:41.000 ponder and contemplate so much. You know, it was nice 2319 01:55:41.039 --> 01:55:44.439 to kind of let the one in on our experience, 2320 01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:46.680 and you know they can do with that, you know 2321 01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:47.760 what they what they. 2322 01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:52.000 Will, so yeah, yeah, for sure. So yeah, we're gonna 2323 01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:54.119 get over to that meditation. We didn't do the meditation 2324 01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:56.279 last time. We didn't have the time first of all. 2325 01:55:56.319 --> 01:55:58.479 Plus I was shooting in Shawn's daughter's room and she 2326 01:55:58.520 --> 01:55:59.800 had to go to sleep that night. That's why we 2327 01:55:59.840 --> 01:56:02.319 did and shoot. That's why we didn't shoot a longer 2328 01:56:02.359 --> 01:56:05.199 episode and why we didn't meditate. So we're gonna get 2329 01:56:05.199 --> 01:56:08.600 back to the meditation tonight, which I'm actually really looking 2330 01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:10.880 forward to. I could use a little meditation in my life. 2331 01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:13.960 I don't think I've needed a meditation more than I 2332 01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:15.159 do as of late. 2333 01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:16.680 Yeah, yeah, big time. 2334 01:56:17.119 --> 01:56:17.800 Let's go there. 2335 01:56:18.640 --> 01:56:21.520 Hayden said, we can agree or we can disagree and 2336 01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:25.159 still be homies. People's these people these days befriend people 2337 01:56:25.439 --> 01:56:27.359 just because they don't agree with them. What a shame. 2338 01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:30.000 It's so crazy, It is so crazy. 2339 01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:32.800 Whatever you're afraid to hear something that just goes against 2340 01:56:32.840 --> 01:56:35.479 your belief system. I feel like if you're constantly just 2341 01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:37.960 being told that your beliefs are correct, and then you 2342 01:56:37.960 --> 01:56:40.319 have nothing to challenge. You know, if I hear somebody 2343 01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:44.680 say something I've never heard anybody say before, I'm interested. 2344 01:56:44.840 --> 01:56:46.720 I want to hear what this guy has to say, 2345 01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:49.560 you know, or anybody. Really, that's how you learn. And 2346 01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:51.520 maybe you hear something and it's like, oh, well I 2347 01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:54.399 don't really like that, that sounds like bullshit. Okay, that's 2348 01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:58.079 fine too. But to constantly just be reaffirmed of what 2349 01:56:58.119 --> 01:57:01.840 you already know, I don't. I don't think there's growth there, so. 2350 01:57:02.840 --> 01:57:05.119 Non a real not at all. It's it turns into 2351 01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:07.039 an echo chamber at that point, and that's not good. 2352 01:57:07.159 --> 01:57:10.560 That's not good for growth for anybody. You know, if 2353 01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:12.960 if you if, if all you want is just to 2354 01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:15.239 be around people who agree with everything you say, why 2355 01:57:15.279 --> 01:57:17.960 don't you just hang out with yourself all day? There's 2356 01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:21.760 no reason to even put yourself around anybody else. Mm hmmm, yeah, 2357 01:57:22.439 --> 01:57:25.439 you know, Skunky said later on, got a plane flight 2358 01:57:25.479 --> 01:57:29.640 in the morning. Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Yeah dude, 2359 01:57:30.600 --> 01:57:33.199 So yeah, we're gonna get over the meditation. I don't 2360 01:57:33.239 --> 01:57:35.000 know exactly where we're gonna be going yet, but look, 2361 01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:36.279 if you want to be able to join in on 2362 01:57:36.319 --> 01:57:40.800 the meditation regularly, our live shows are every Wednesday night 2363 01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:42.960 at nine pm Central. This was kind of like an 2364 01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:46.159 emergency type of episode. We normally would shoot it on 2365 01:57:46.199 --> 01:57:49.119 a Wednesday. We Satay shooting on a Saturday Saturday this time. 2366 01:57:49.439 --> 01:57:51.319 So what that means is is that we have another 2367 01:57:51.359 --> 01:57:52.359 live show in four days. 2368 01:57:52.479 --> 01:57:53.079 So that's fun. 2369 01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:53.960 You go. 2370 01:57:55.199 --> 01:57:56.359 So if you want to be a part of that, 2371 01:57:56.439 --> 01:57:57.640 and you want to be able to join in on 2372 01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:01.239 the meditations and be able to type in a message 2373 01:58:01.239 --> 01:58:02.439 to the show. Maybe you want to be able to 2374 01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:04.760 unmute yourself. Maybe you have a question. A lot of 2375 01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:07.800 times we'll have a guest on these live shows, and 2376 01:58:07.840 --> 01:58:10.399 we have a lot of amazing guests coming up. I 2377 01:58:10.399 --> 01:58:13.680 promise you like the level of guests that we have 2378 01:58:13.920 --> 01:58:17.359 coming onto this show, you're gonna be like, how did 2379 01:58:17.359 --> 01:58:21.720 these guys get these people? It's just because this show 2380 01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:25.039 is awesome and people see that and you know it's 2381 01:58:25.039 --> 01:58:25.399 gonna do. 2382 01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:29.439 Yeah, it's just sick, but it's long for at this point. 2383 01:58:29.680 --> 01:58:32.359 Yeah, and it's made up from the support of the 2384 01:58:32.359 --> 01:58:34.079 one out there. So we just want to say thank 2385 01:58:34.119 --> 01:58:35.880 you very much for supporting us in every way that 2386 01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:38.279 you do. Whether you follow us on follow us on 2387 01:58:38.319 --> 01:58:41.239 Instagram or TikTok, or maybe you're leaving reviews in five 2388 01:58:41.279 --> 01:58:44.560 stars in Apple Podcasts or Spotify h maybe you're going 2389 01:58:44.560 --> 01:58:48.760 and checking out our YouTube channel. However you are supporting us, 2390 01:58:49.319 --> 01:58:51.479 thank you so much. If you're even dude, if you're 2391 01:58:51.520 --> 01:58:54.239 supporting us on Patreon, which is the absolute best way 2392 01:58:54.279 --> 01:58:56.840 to support us. We have several different tiers over there. 2393 01:58:56.960 --> 01:58:59.279 If you sign up for the Wonder Wiz Day tier, 2394 01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:01.640 it's eight eight eight a month. But what's awesome about 2395 01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:03.000 that is that you get the shows a couple of 2396 01:59:03.039 --> 01:59:06.840 days in advance. It's completely commercial free and you'll be 2397 01:59:06.880 --> 01:59:08.960 able to see all the video, You'll be able to interact, 2398 01:59:09.039 --> 01:59:11.079 you'll be able to send us direct messages. Maybe you 2399 01:59:11.079 --> 01:59:13.720 have a question, whatever the case may be. We are 2400 01:59:14.319 --> 01:59:17.319 always on the spot with those messages, so it's the 2401 01:59:17.319 --> 01:59:18.560 best way to be able to support the show. And 2402 01:59:18.560 --> 01:59:22.079 we really appreciate everybody. But uh, Sean, any closing words 2403 01:59:22.079 --> 01:59:23.479 for you, sir before we get to meditating. 2404 01:59:24.079 --> 01:59:26.680 Man, I just feel like some weight has been lifted. Man. 2405 01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:28.600 I feel like, uh, I don't know. I'm just really 2406 01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:31.960 grateful for for everything, for the one, for you know, 2407 01:59:32.079 --> 01:59:35.880 my family, everything around me. I'm just very fucking grateful man. 2408 01:59:35.920 --> 01:59:39.079 And and yeah, I couldn't have done it without you, 2409 01:59:39.199 --> 01:59:41.840 John than without you the one. You know, this has 2410 01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:45.640 just been already just a fun experience and and it's 2411 01:59:45.720 --> 01:59:48.000 it's only gonna get better, man. So I'm just looking 2412 01:59:48.039 --> 01:59:48.920 forward to the journey. 2413 01:59:49.079 --> 01:59:50.840 It is only going to get better from here on out. 2414 01:59:51.439 --> 01:59:53.359 So yeah, like I said, we're gonna get over the 2415 01:59:53.800 --> 01:59:58.640 to that meditation. But until next time, if the shadow 2416 01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:01.920 came here and it's I got you anything, it's that 2417 02:00:02.039 --> 02:00:05.439 you don't know what you don't know, But I don't 2418 02:00:05.600 --> 02:00:06.319 just get. 2419 02:00:06.119 --> 02:00:08.039 Weird, ay weird? 2420 02:00:12.359 --> 02:00:15.840 All right? For the one joining us here on this meditation, 2421 02:00:16.079 --> 02:00:20.760 Sean suggested a guided meditation, which we love those. I'm 2422 02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:22.760 never going to turn down a guided meditation. Those are 2423 02:00:23.159 --> 02:00:25.960 a guided meditation is the closest thing you can get 2424 02:00:26.000 --> 02:00:28.920 to like a past life progression. I feel like, you know, 2425 02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:31.880 they actually have past life progression guided meditations which are 2426 02:00:31.920 --> 02:00:35.640 really great, that's u. And they have ones that are 2427 02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:39.520 very open ended to where you're thinking, oh, I'm only 2428 02:00:39.600 --> 02:00:42.199 experiencing this because they guided me there. And then you 2429 02:00:42.319 --> 02:00:45.680 like look back over you know the words that were said, 2430 02:00:45.720 --> 02:00:49.159 and you're like, they didn't say nothing about me getting 2431 02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:52.039 onto a box car with three other people back in 2432 02:00:52.159 --> 02:00:54.960 nineteen twenty or anything like that, you know what I mean. 2433 02:00:55.039 --> 02:00:58.399 It's just weird, the the you know where your mind 2434 02:00:58.439 --> 02:01:01.199 can take you with a few suggestions, you know, And 2435 02:01:01.239 --> 02:01:04.039 that's all this is really about. So this one is 2436 02:01:04.039 --> 02:01:07.800 actually going to be by our favorite YouTube meditation channel ever, 2437 02:01:08.279 --> 02:01:12.840 and that is by Great Meditation. This one is actually 2438 02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:17.359 for getting back on track guided meditation for passion and purpose. 2439 02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:19.800 So I think that's a solid one. It's only eleven 2440 02:01:19.800 --> 02:01:24.079 minutes long, so we will get started here in just 2441 02:01:24.119 --> 02:01:27.039 a minute. But uh, I'm excited. I'm looking forward to 2442 02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:30.319 this one. It says, obviously, don't listen to this while 2443 02:01:30.319 --> 02:01:32.560 you're driving. You should never listen to any kind of 2444 02:01:32.600 --> 02:01:36.960 meditative music while you're driving anyway. Oh hold up, wait 2445 02:01:37.000 --> 02:01:39.479 a minute, I got mine too. We got the mind 2446 02:01:39.479 --> 02:01:42.760 fold up in here. All right, we're gonna get started 2447 02:01:42.800 --> 02:01:47.000 here in three two one. Let go. 2448 02:01:48.920 --> 02:01:51.640 Begin by inviting your body to get as cozy as 2449 02:01:51.640 --> 02:01:58.199 it wishes at this time, allowing any muscles you do 2450 02:01:58.279 --> 02:02:01.479 not need to use right now to release and relax, 2451 02:02:06.920 --> 02:02:15.960 including the muscles in your face and shaw. Inviting gravity 2452 02:02:16.039 --> 02:02:24.439 in to take over, and you surrender to the weight 2453 02:02:24.520 --> 02:02:38.439 of gravity, letting it coax you into relaxation, letting it 2454 02:02:38.560 --> 02:02:41.560 remind you that you are anchored here to the earth. 2455 02:02:44.479 --> 02:02:50.439 You are already held. You can tell all of your 2456 02:02:50.520 --> 02:02:56.800 muscles it's safe to let go. It's safe to relax 2457 02:03:05.159 --> 02:03:12.520 as you let your breath be soft and gentle, air 2458 02:03:12.680 --> 02:03:20.239 moving as freely as it wishes through you, and you 2459 02:03:20.399 --> 02:03:26.600 appreciating each sip of air as the miraculous and free 2460 02:03:26.680 --> 02:03:38.880 nourishment it is and provides. Feel how the air all 2461 02:03:38.920 --> 02:03:45.880 around you is always there for you, always ready to 2462 02:03:46.039 --> 02:03:50.079 nurture you at a moment's notice, never demanding anything of you. 2463 02:03:57.279 --> 02:04:07.720 Invite your nervous system to remember. They then invite the 2464 02:04:07.760 --> 02:04:12.680 nervous system to perceive how deeply supported it is by 2465 02:04:12.720 --> 02:04:22.840 the breath. As you get even more curious about how 2466 02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:33.600 you can become even more relaxed now letting yourself simply 2467 02:04:33.680 --> 02:04:53.000 be the witness to you, becoming aware of your awareness 2468 02:04:53.000 --> 02:05:22.079 of you in this moment, there's nothing you can do, 2469 02:05:23.720 --> 02:05:31.600 judge or change. Your only rule is to simply allow 2470 02:05:34.680 --> 02:05:47.359 to exist and to observe whatever is. What if by 2471 02:05:47.399 --> 02:05:54.840 you merely allowing what is, you give yourself the true 2472 02:05:55.279 --> 02:06:12.000 present of simply being whatever you are. On your next exhale, 2473 02:06:12.680 --> 02:06:18.199 send the following affirmation throughout your body, I am free 2474 02:06:18.560 --> 02:06:29.039 to exist as I am, and on the next exhale, 2475 02:06:29.359 --> 02:06:46.520 affirming it is safe to be me. Continuing to breathe 2476 02:06:46.520 --> 02:07:14.199 at your own pace, on your next exhale, affirming I 2477 02:07:14.279 --> 02:07:29.920 can be myself in all scenarios. As you continue to 2478 02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:35.199 let yourself breathe however feels best, moment by moment, and 2479 02:07:35.319 --> 02:07:59.159 breath by breath, you invite yourself to let go even 2480 02:07:59.239 --> 02:08:15.439 more just being present with the sensations that are up 2481 02:08:15.439 --> 02:08:48.760 for you right now, observing yourself as the observer without 2482 02:08:48.840 --> 02:09:09.760 judgment nor attachment. And as you relax in this, you 2483 02:09:09.840 --> 02:09:16.079 let the following ask formations move through you trusting and 2484 02:09:16.159 --> 02:09:23.479 knowing that with each question you perceive, you naturally align 2485 02:09:23.520 --> 02:09:35.079 with the answer instantly. What can I create today that 2486 02:09:35.479 --> 02:09:49.479 is and will be truly magical for me? How may 2487 02:09:49.479 --> 02:09:56.000 I align more holy and perfectly with my own unique 2488 02:09:56.000 --> 02:10:13.640 divine purpose, not only in this moment, but in all moments. 2489 02:10:15.119 --> 02:10:18.840 How may I feel whole and complete within myself right 2490 02:10:18.880 --> 02:10:36.199 here and now? What if it is not only possible 2491 02:10:37.079 --> 02:10:41.359 that I am already in alignment with the highest and best, 2492 02:10:41.439 --> 02:10:45.880 most loving timeline for me? But what if today I 2493 02:10:45.920 --> 02:10:50.279 can actively observe and find evidence of this in every 2494 02:10:50.319 --> 02:11:03.760 breath and everywhere I go and everything I do. How 2495 02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:06.800 is it possible that I cannot seem to separate myself 2496 02:11:06.880 --> 02:11:16.840 from my own perfect path and purpose? How come I 2497 02:11:16.880 --> 02:11:20.760 am a magnet for such immense amounts of light and love? 2498 02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:35.520 Now just mask and feelings of gratitude knowing that your 2499 02:11:35.640 --> 02:11:40.159 highest self has all of these answers already all around you, 2500 02:11:42.000 --> 02:11:48.119 within you and every cell of your being, wrapping you 2501 02:11:48.239 --> 02:12:04.560 up in your own greatest, unique purpose. And whenever you 2502 02:12:04.720 --> 02:12:08.760 truly feel ready to come out of this practice, do 2503 02:12:08.960 --> 02:12:23.920 so by taking your time, only allowing your eyes to 2504 02:12:24.119 --> 02:12:30.960 gently open when you feel ready. Great job today. Thank 2505 02:12:30.960 --> 02:12:35.119 you so much for being here, Thank you for all 2506 02:12:35.159 --> 02:12:35.720 that you are. 2507 02:12:51.960 --> 02:12:54.119 Let's go. That was solid, dude. 2508 02:12:54.960 --> 02:12:59.359 Yeah man, I needed that. Man, I really did, Like, 2509 02:12:59.439 --> 02:13:02.000 no bullshit, It like my whole body just feels a 2510 02:13:02.039 --> 02:13:05.479 bit better. Like I feel like I've had this underlying 2511 02:13:05.560 --> 02:13:09.000 tone of just angst, you know, and like I was 2512 02:13:09.039 --> 02:13:11.840 able to just like just release that. Man. 2513 02:13:12.760 --> 02:13:13.000 You know. 2514 02:13:13.199 --> 02:13:18.039 Yeah, there's been this weird, this weird feeling of being 2515 02:13:18.199 --> 02:13:23.159 unaligned actually, and I feel like with that one because 2516 02:13:23.199 --> 02:13:26.920 it had been a while since we meditated now probably shit, 2517 02:13:27.039 --> 02:13:28.680 probably more than a week. 2518 02:13:28.880 --> 02:13:32.680 Yeah, since since last probably Thursday or Friday or whatever 2519 02:13:32.720 --> 02:13:33.039 it was. 2520 02:13:33.840 --> 02:13:37.520 Yeah, yeah, so that was really nice to actually feel 2521 02:13:37.520 --> 02:13:40.439 that again. And I'm gonna be like, so in the beginning, 2522 02:13:40.640 --> 02:13:43.399 it was actually pretty difficult for me to try and 2523 02:13:43.439 --> 02:13:47.520 get anywhere with it because I felt like detached, you know, 2524 02:13:48.720 --> 02:13:53.720 and like not connected like how I normally am. And 2525 02:13:55.399 --> 02:13:59.039 you know, it took a little while, but then, like 2526 02:13:59.199 --> 02:14:01.920 really towards the end is whenever I started like settling 2527 02:14:01.920 --> 02:14:05.359 into the meditation and whenever she was talking doing the 2528 02:14:05.439 --> 02:14:09.439 affirmations like why does all this stuff magnetize itself to 2529 02:14:09.479 --> 02:14:11.640 me and stuff like that, and which I think those 2530 02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:16.439 affirmations are actually really good. But whenever, you know, and 2531 02:14:16.479 --> 02:14:19.399 then I started to repeat the affirmations in my mind, Dude, 2532 02:14:19.439 --> 02:14:22.800 the craziest thing started to happen. So first of all, dude, 2533 02:14:22.800 --> 02:14:25.560 getting you a mindfold is next level for meditation. We 2534 02:14:25.560 --> 02:14:27.760 don't have we don't have any affiliations with them, but 2535 02:14:27.960 --> 02:14:30.680 highly suggest everybody gets one. Takes the meditation to the 2536 02:14:30.680 --> 02:14:33.479 next fucking level, you know, talk about like deprivation. It's awesome. 2537 02:14:33.920 --> 02:14:34.119 Yep. 2538 02:14:35.720 --> 02:14:38.960 So yeah, that was really cool. But what started to 2539 02:14:38.960 --> 02:14:41.680 happen and I barely started to notice it, and then 2540 02:14:41.680 --> 02:14:43.319 whenever I did notice that, I was like, holy shit, 2541 02:14:43.359 --> 02:14:47.560 is that really happening. I felt like normally, like whenever 2542 02:14:47.560 --> 02:14:49.760 you get into meditation, at least for me, I started 2543 02:14:49.760 --> 02:14:51.600 to get the spins. And they say, that's like a 2544 02:14:51.600 --> 02:14:55.600 little Cundalini going on, right, like Condelini yoga or Kindelini energy, 2545 02:14:55.640 --> 02:14:58.359 energy that's building up inside of you, the snake that 2546 02:14:58.479 --> 02:15:02.760 is coiling upward, right. But for this one, it was 2547 02:15:02.800 --> 02:15:08.239 really strange. It was like my consciousness was going, you know, 2548 02:15:08.399 --> 02:15:11.640 like forward and backwards and forward and backwards, and it 2549 02:15:11.680 --> 02:15:14.159 was so strange and it almost reminded me so earlier, 2550 02:15:14.239 --> 02:15:16.159 just earlier today, I was pushing my son on the 2551 02:15:16.199 --> 02:15:19.039 swing and it reminded me of like it was like 2552 02:15:19.079 --> 02:15:23.399 my face, my consciousness that is in my face was 2553 02:15:23.560 --> 02:15:26.680 being pushed on the swing. I wasn't even thinking about that, 2554 02:15:26.720 --> 02:15:28.279 it just started to happen. So weird. 2555 02:15:28.840 --> 02:15:33.720 That's awesome, dude. It's interesting how the things that you experience, 2556 02:15:34.079 --> 02:15:37.119 you know, outwardly kind of seemed to find their way 2557 02:15:37.159 --> 02:15:41.520 into your internal goings on, you know what I mean 2558 02:15:41.720 --> 02:15:44.279 with the meditation, And it's like, I don't know, it's 2559 02:15:44.279 --> 02:15:46.600 so weird because of course it works that way. You know, 2560 02:15:46.640 --> 02:15:50.520 your inner world seems to project outwardly, you know, and 2561 02:15:50.560 --> 02:15:52.760 you start to see certain things depending on how you're 2562 02:15:52.760 --> 02:15:57.159 feeling or depending on what failure you claimed you you know, 2563 02:15:57.439 --> 02:16:00.239 were responsible for whatever it is. And so of course 2564 02:16:00.279 --> 02:16:03.920 the outside world is going to seep into your meditation 2565 02:16:04.239 --> 02:16:06.000 when you when you choose to look inward. 2566 02:16:06.800 --> 02:16:10.640 You know, why don't we Yeah, yeah, yeah dude. And 2567 02:16:10.640 --> 02:16:13.359 that's the crazy thing is that even with a ten 2568 02:16:13.560 --> 02:16:19.600 or eleven minute meditation completely changes your vibe and probably 2569 02:16:19.600 --> 02:16:22.000 the rest of your day, you know. And they say 2570 02:16:22.000 --> 02:16:25.159 that like like if you meditate, like right before you 2571 02:16:25.199 --> 02:16:26.960 go to sleep, or an hour or so before you 2572 02:16:26.960 --> 02:16:29.760 go to sleep, you're more likely to remember your dreams. 2573 02:16:30.279 --> 02:16:33.479 I believe that. I believe that, and I think I 2574 02:16:33.479 --> 02:16:35.559 think it's also interesting too, Like if you do a 2575 02:16:35.600 --> 02:16:39.319 meditation in the morning, which I feel like at some 2576 02:16:39.440 --> 02:16:41.120 point I'm gonna have the time to be able to 2577 02:16:41.159 --> 02:16:44.719 just wake up and and do that. But I imagine 2578 02:16:45.159 --> 02:16:47.959 after a meditation, just like experiencing how your body feels 2579 02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:51.440 right now, just so so chilled out right. Imagine, and 2580 02:16:51.840 --> 02:16:54.040 something happening to you, like let's say you're on your 2581 02:16:54.040 --> 02:16:55.959 way to work. Let's say you stop to get gased, 2582 02:16:55.959 --> 02:16:58.399 somebody pulls out in front of you, or or whatever, 2583 02:16:58.840 --> 02:17:01.920 whatever situation it is, how much better you're going to 2584 02:17:01.959 --> 02:17:05.680 be able to interact with that situation just having that 2585 02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:08.399 that baseline kind of dropped a little lower, so you 2586 02:17:08.479 --> 02:17:11.360 have so much more room to play with before you 2587 02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:15.399 start to get agitated or who knows what the situation 2588 02:17:15.479 --> 02:17:16.799 could be, you know. 2589 02:17:17.079 --> 02:17:24.120 But yeah, yeah, getting so invaluable tool for sure. Yeah, 2590 02:17:25.319 --> 02:17:28.799 if you will probably the most slept on thing out 2591 02:17:28.799 --> 02:17:34.200 there for sure. But yeah, all right, guys, well I 2592 02:17:34.200 --> 02:17:35.760 think we're going to boog you up out of here, 2593 02:17:35.959 --> 02:17:37.479 Like I said, if you want to reach out for 2594 02:17:38.319 --> 02:17:40.600 a past life progression, just go ahead. Feel free to 2595 02:17:40.680 --> 02:17:44.559 email us metamistics at yahoo dot com, or you can 2596 02:17:44.600 --> 02:17:47.879 hit us up on Patreon. Sean answers all the Patreon messages. 2597 02:17:47.920 --> 02:17:50.719 But if you send something over there, he'll relay it 2598 02:17:50.719 --> 02:17:53.239 to me and we'll be able to set something up. 2599 02:17:54.479 --> 02:17:56.360 But yeah, we appreciate you coming to hang out with us. 2600 02:17:56.399 --> 02:17:58.680 This was a lot of fun and a bunch of 2601 02:17:58.760 --> 02:18:02.559 great guests coming up. Actually, let me give you a 2602 02:18:02.600 --> 02:18:04.760 little taste of what we got coming up because it's 2603 02:18:04.799 --> 02:18:10.799 gonna be so sick. So let's see this upcoming Monday, 2604 02:18:10.920 --> 02:18:14.120 getting your boy, the Big Grimbowski coming back on the show. 2605 02:18:15.040 --> 02:18:18.319 We we're just talking about wanting to talk about ghosties too. 2606 02:18:18.239 --> 02:18:22.319 You know, yes, yes, love him and he is like 2607 02:18:22.600 --> 02:18:26.600 he goes out ghost hunting, goes out into cemeteries and 2608 02:18:26.680 --> 02:18:29.440 he takes his uh, the little radio. 2609 02:18:29.479 --> 02:18:32.360 What is it called again? Oh I forget the Oh 2610 02:18:32.399 --> 02:18:34.319 I forget what that's called. The spirit box. 2611 02:18:34.440 --> 02:18:36.559 The spirit box. Yeah, it takes a spirit box. He 2612 02:18:36.600 --> 02:18:38.360 gets weird with it, and that's what we love. Love 2613 02:18:38.399 --> 02:18:39.000 that kind of shit. 2614 02:18:39.760 --> 02:18:42.079 It's gonna be really fascinating too, to really get into 2615 02:18:42.520 --> 02:18:44.959 his understanding of things, you know, because there's only so 2616 02:18:45.079 --> 02:18:48.159 much you can understand not actually going out and experiencing 2617 02:18:48.159 --> 02:18:50.520 it for yourself, you know. And so he's actually in 2618 02:18:50.600 --> 02:18:52.520 that world. So I'd really like to see kind of 2619 02:18:53.600 --> 02:18:56.040 what he thinks about it, what's going on, what's actually 2620 02:18:56.440 --> 02:18:58.799 what does he think is actually happening when when that 2621 02:18:58.879 --> 02:19:01.799 spirit box starts chattering away? You know? 2622 02:19:02.399 --> 02:19:05.840 Yeah, yeah, he's he's a fascinating guy. And he's such 2623 02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:09.879 a good dude too, Yes, So love those kind of people. 2624 02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:12.280 If you're into the ghosties and the paranormal, that'll be 2625 02:19:12.319 --> 02:19:15.639 one that you definitely want to check into. Another one 2626 02:19:15.879 --> 02:19:18.799 is actually somebody who has just recently started to get 2627 02:19:18.799 --> 02:19:22.280 big as far as you know, the things that he's 2628 02:19:22.280 --> 02:19:25.079 been talking about. If anybody wants to go check out 2629 02:19:25.159 --> 02:19:31.200 his name on on Instagram is Huffy Underscore two two seven. 2630 02:19:31.879 --> 02:19:35.479 This guy is an absolute like he looks like a 2631 02:19:35.520 --> 02:19:39.120 shaman and I'm gonna just say that his messages definitely 2632 02:19:39.159 --> 02:19:43.200 live up to that. So he is freaking awesome, So 2633 02:19:43.239 --> 02:19:45.520 we're gonna be having him on. He's all about the 2634 02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.319 oneness and all the the like. Dude, he's real with it, 2635 02:19:48.559 --> 02:19:51.360 and so he actually reminds me a lot of optimistic. 2636 02:19:52.120 --> 02:19:54.000 Yeah. Oh good, So. 2637 02:19:53.959 --> 02:19:56.520 That's gonna be a really fun conversation. That's actually gonna 2638 02:19:56.520 --> 02:19:59.200 be the live show where we're gonna be having him 2639 02:19:59.719 --> 02:20:02.719 U December one. Oh, we're going to be getting into 2640 02:20:02.719 --> 02:20:06.719 the human resonances with Aaron Brown. She's so she's awesome, love. 2641 02:20:06.559 --> 02:20:10.680 Her, absolutely necessary. I still don't understand it. So we 2642 02:20:10.719 --> 02:20:11.040 need that. 2643 02:20:12.319 --> 02:20:12.639 Uh. 2644 02:20:12.680 --> 02:20:16.760 And then December, when is that? December fourth, We're going 2645 02:20:16.840 --> 02:20:20.159 to be having the Lights over Loveland, So a lot 2646 02:20:20.159 --> 02:20:23.520 of amazing, amazing individual is going to be coming on. 2647 02:20:23.559 --> 02:20:27.760 We got human resonances, we got you know, paranormal activity, 2648 02:20:28.120 --> 02:20:31.000 we got alien talk with the Lights over Loveland, a 2649 02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:33.399 bunch of amazing guests that are going to be coming on. 2650 02:20:33.600 --> 02:20:35.719 And that's what we want to be able to provide 2651 02:20:35.840 --> 02:20:38.319 for the one. We're not just sticking on one topic. 2652 02:20:38.360 --> 02:20:40.520 We want to touch on it all, you know, And 2653 02:20:41.520 --> 02:20:43.159 I think that's the right way to go about it. 2654 02:20:43.719 --> 02:20:45.959 That's where we're going, man, So I hope it is. 2655 02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:50.239 Oh. Ben said, hell yeah, I can't wait. Just spend 2656 02:20:50.280 --> 02:20:52.319 five hours in the cemetery today. Did you bring a 2657 02:20:52.360 --> 02:20:52.920 spirit box? 2658 02:20:52.959 --> 02:20:53.159 Ben? 2659 02:20:55.360 --> 02:20:57.159 The spirit box? At that point, you know what I 2660 02:20:57.200 --> 02:20:57.879 mean just tap it. 2661 02:20:58.399 --> 02:21:00.600 Yeah, I've and i've oh, he said, I wish you 2662 02:21:00.639 --> 02:21:03.840 know I've heard that. You know, it's just a theory. 2663 02:21:03.920 --> 02:21:06.319 I don't know. I've never messed around with a spirit box, 2664 02:21:06.319 --> 02:21:08.879 but I've heard people say what's going on with a 2665 02:21:08.920 --> 02:21:12.399 spirit box is that you're almost imprinting your own energy 2666 02:21:12.440 --> 02:21:15.200 and it's somehow being manifested and then picked up with 2667 02:21:15.319 --> 02:21:18.920 the spirit box. So I don't know, maybe that's what's 2668 02:21:18.959 --> 02:21:23.680 going on. I especially after this last you know, last weekend, 2669 02:21:23.840 --> 02:21:26.639 I'm almost starting to think that there be some spirits around, 2670 02:21:27.159 --> 02:21:29.120 you know. I think it only makes sense. 2671 02:21:29.559 --> 02:21:33.000 My daughter likes to watch Sam and Colby, love them. 2672 02:21:33.520 --> 02:21:35.879 They've been doing like there's this one where they went 2673 02:21:35.920 --> 02:21:37.479 to like the I don't know if it was the 2674 02:21:37.520 --> 02:21:41.520 Conjuring House or was one of those more famous like properties. 2675 02:21:41.600 --> 02:21:45.000 And the way that they were the tour guides whatever 2676 02:21:45.000 --> 02:21:47.639 we're doing, like this divination type thing where they were 2677 02:21:47.639 --> 02:21:50.920 holding hands and she would say ABC, and then they 2678 02:21:50.959 --> 02:21:53.319 would be a like a knock okay, and then she 2679 02:21:53.360 --> 02:21:55.479 would restart and then there would be another knock and 2680 02:21:55.520 --> 02:21:58.399 it would spell out shit and the things that this 2681 02:21:58.520 --> 02:22:03.120 spirit or who knows what that's divination. Well, yeah, that's 2682 02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:06.680 what I'm saying. They were doing divination and they had 2683 02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:09.920 some information on Sam or Colby, which I get them 2684 02:22:09.920 --> 02:22:12.879 mixed up. But he started crying, dude, like he was 2685 02:22:12.920 --> 02:22:16.360 having a real visceral reaction to this thing, knowing things 2686 02:22:16.399 --> 02:22:19.600 that nobody knows, probably not even his his co host 2687 02:22:19.879 --> 02:22:22.200 is awhere, you know what I mean. That was like 2688 02:22:22.200 --> 02:22:25.200 a very personal thing, and so I don't know, man, 2689 02:22:25.319 --> 02:22:25.760 who knows. 2690 02:22:25.840 --> 02:22:27.760 Dude, you want to talk about ghost hunting shows? That 2691 02:22:27.879 --> 02:22:32.399 Sam and Colby YouTube show is top notch ghost hunting. 2692 02:22:32.520 --> 02:22:34.799 There is nothing better. I have not found anything that's 2693 02:22:34.799 --> 02:22:35.559 any better than them. 2694 02:22:36.000 --> 02:22:38.120 They went to the catacombs or whatever where there's like 2695 02:22:38.159 --> 02:22:40.840 a bunch of skeletons and bones and shit, and I'm like, 2696 02:22:40.920 --> 02:22:43.680 holy shit, you know, So that'd be cool to get 2697 02:22:43.680 --> 02:22:45.479 them on just to kind of, you know, see what 2698 02:22:45.559 --> 02:22:47.479 they know, Like what do you think, because you know, 2699 02:22:47.559 --> 02:22:50.360 once you get involved in something like meditation, for example, 2700 02:22:50.440 --> 02:22:53.760 like I am understanding things about meditation I never even 2701 02:22:54.200 --> 02:22:56.799 would have thought of, but because I'm actually doing it, 2702 02:22:56.920 --> 02:22:59.920 I understand things that are just like the subtleties, things 2703 02:23:00.079 --> 02:23:04.000 that you wouldn't even think was involved. You know, when it. 2704 02:23:04.840 --> 02:23:07.479 I just wonder what things they've experienced and come to 2705 02:23:07.559 --> 02:23:10.879 understand because they're immersed, you know they're they're. 2706 02:23:10.639 --> 02:23:14.280 Doing, dude, they're the best in the game. And yeah, 2707 02:23:14.319 --> 02:23:16.840 it would be we're gonna manifest that. They're definitely gonna 2708 02:23:16.840 --> 02:23:19.479 come on Metal one of these days for sure, because 2709 02:23:19.520 --> 02:23:22.360 they are the goats of ghost hunting. There's and it's 2710 02:23:22.399 --> 02:23:25.239 not even close. Matter of fact, I'm gonna watch that tonight, 2711 02:23:28.680 --> 02:23:33.520 yeah dude. So yeah, a bunch of great, great, amazing 2712 02:23:33.559 --> 02:23:35.600 guests coming up here in the future. We're only going 2713 02:23:35.639 --> 02:23:38.760 to keep on spreading our metal wings and trying to 2714 02:23:38.840 --> 02:23:41.719 reach out to even more and more awesome people as 2715 02:23:41.760 --> 02:23:42.600 we grow. 2716 02:23:42.760 --> 02:23:43.000 Uh. 2717 02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:45.159 So, thank you for following us on this journey. Thank 2718 02:23:45.159 --> 02:23:47.639 you for supporting us on this journey. We really appreciate it. 2719 02:23:47.680 --> 02:23:50.719 We love you so much for that. And uh, we'll 2720 02:23:50.760 --> 02:23:52.559 see you Wednesday here in just four. 2721 02:23:52.440 --> 02:23:54.719 Days, dude, I'm looking forward to. 2722 02:23:55.559 --> 02:23:58.760 Oh yeah, dude, so uh, we love you and we'll 2723 02:23:58.760 --> 02:24:12.239 see you on the flip side. The Small Farmer 2724 02:24:40.840 --> 02:24:47.520 Comp