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<v Speaker 1>And nine, Ignition five or three two one zero Engine running.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Wednesday. You know what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for Ignition with the aw fat Hub podcast

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<v Speaker 3>team and community. We're going to be talking about some

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<v Speaker 3>aw hot topics and of course tonight we've got aw

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<v Speaker 3>Dynamite from Chicago Hangman, Adam Page and John Moxley rematch

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<v Speaker 3>for the AAW World Championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, what needs to happen here?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what do you expect to happen tonight on

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<v Speaker 3>Dynamite and maybe in the next few weeks leading up

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Forbidden Door.

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<v Speaker 2>What needs to happen?

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<v Speaker 4>I got stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, they'll keep us a suspense.

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<v Speaker 5>To chime in.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you just want to George? Do you just want

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<v Speaker 3>to show us your stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Yo? I was actually just fantasy booking this.

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<v Speaker 3>Let go.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, here is my Here is my grand plan. Number

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<v Speaker 4>one Moxley Number one. Moxley is not going to win

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<v Speaker 4>this match. Anybody who is worried about Moxley winning this

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<v Speaker 4>match can rest easy because that's probably not not what

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<v Speaker 4>is going to happen. Also, this match is going to

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<v Speaker 4>kick ass because their chemistry is amazing. Moxley was actually

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<v Speaker 4>saying in an interview that how much how great it

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<v Speaker 4>was working with Hangman, because, like he was saying that

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<v Speaker 4>he likes to do audibles the ring a lot, and

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<v Speaker 4>Hangmail was just like catching onto everyone he was spitting out.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, good chemistry is always a plus, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be great to see. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>this is what it's going to take for Max to

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<v Speaker 4>realize that, yes, this is a worthy champion, and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the Death Riders mission is over and they can disband now.

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<v Speaker 4>But that might not sit well with the Death Riders,

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<v Speaker 4>especially a certain Death writer who has not been present

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<v Speaker 4>for a while. I think Pac might come back and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe oust Mox from his own group.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I have not heard any kind of updates on

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<v Speaker 3>Pack and his injury status, so that may very well

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<v Speaker 3>be true. Yeah, don't forget tomorrow night or tonight's match.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody he's barred from. Everybody's barred from the ring except

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<v Speaker 3>for the referee. I've heard suggestions that the referee may

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<v Speaker 3>not be Bryce Rebsburg or Aubrey Edwards and maybe somebody

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<v Speaker 3>else mm hmmm, anybody else on this match go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>I have an idea. I think that Eddie Kingston is

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<v Speaker 5>coming back for I do I think this is his moment.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna come back and he's gonna interfere and get

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<v Speaker 5>involved in the title picture.

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<v Speaker 6>I think so, Nah, he can't get The only way

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<v Speaker 6>he could come back and get wait a minute, the

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<v Speaker 6>only way he get involved in it he is the

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<v Speaker 6>surprise referee because you can't be at the ring side.

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<v Speaker 7>This is gonna be one of those matches where they're

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<v Speaker 7>not gonna let people out there.

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<v Speaker 5>Why can't he be the referee? He can an he

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<v Speaker 5>can come running out there.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably be a referee.

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<v Speaker 3>Does does anybody think that something may happen before the batch?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it'll happen after the match. I think I

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<v Speaker 7>think when Max loses, I think that the uh. I

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<v Speaker 7>think the death Riders are going to I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>you're gonna beat them up. I just think they're going

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of shake their heads and walk away from war.

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<v Speaker 8>So I was chatting with with Jess in the in

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<v Speaker 8>the channel today on the Fantasy booking, and I think

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<v Speaker 8>both kind of what Kelson teed up there and what

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<v Speaker 8>Jess teed.

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<v Speaker 1>Up there, maybe the way they.

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<v Speaker 8>Run it Kelson with with your prompt there, what if

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<v Speaker 8>something happens before. I think that's the exact scheming, conniving

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<v Speaker 8>way that Death Writers would take advantage of this. Since

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<v Speaker 8>they're barred from ringside, they try to take Hanger out

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<v Speaker 8>before the match, and then he gets dragged to the

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<v Speaker 8>ring by Mox or whatever. You don't even need a

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<v Speaker 8>fake rough at that point. Hanger's already, you know, behind

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<v Speaker 8>the eight ball. And then just to your point.

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<v Speaker 3>I I you agree.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Mox needs to lose this, and I think

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<v Speaker 8>this needs to start kind of closure of this chapter

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<v Speaker 8>of the Death Writers, or possibly the final act of

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<v Speaker 8>this whole storyline, and that I do think that if

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<v Speaker 8>he loses again, the death Writers need to call him out.

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<v Speaker 8>They followed him, they believed in him, and he's lost

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<v Speaker 8>twice in a row now, and for him to say

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<v Speaker 8>they're done or whatever, I think they turn on him,

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<v Speaker 8>get rid of him right. Max off TV for a while.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he's earned a vacation finally, And I think

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<v Speaker 8>when he's off screen, you do some vignettes, and that's

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<v Speaker 8>how you ease Eddie Beck into it. I was mentioning,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, you have Mox at home. You can do

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<v Speaker 8>vignettes of him questioning who he is am I man enough?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I let the promotion down. He feels like

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<v Speaker 8>maybe Hangar still isn't worthwhile, and he's really down on

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<v Speaker 8>the dumps. And Eddie's the one that knocks on the

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<v Speaker 8>door and says, hey, bro, we need to talk, and

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<v Speaker 8>that starts. That starts that redemption tour for him, so

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<v Speaker 8>he can come back and maybe he's convinced to right

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<v Speaker 8>some of the wrongs he did in aaw during his

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<v Speaker 8>death writer's run you can you can milk this for

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<v Speaker 8>a while and have him come back as a as

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<v Speaker 8>a as a good face and another good story.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say something about I want to say

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<v Speaker 3>something about Eddie here because let's space facts. Okay, He's

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<v Speaker 3>been out with a broken leg and uh and and

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<v Speaker 3>I moniscous, right. I believe he had the wait for

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<v Speaker 3>one thing to heal before he had the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And he is not in good shape. If he he

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<v Speaker 3>may very well come back as a referee.

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<v Speaker 2>He is not.

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<v Speaker 3>He is. I make a prediction he is never going

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<v Speaker 3>to be in wrestling shape again, well so to speak,

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<v Speaker 3>wrestling shape again for Eddie.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, you know, but I think he may be

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<v Speaker 8>right Kelson, the injury to his need is severe enough

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<v Speaker 8>that the bumping and the stuff he could do before Eddie,

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<v Speaker 8>Eddie's position in the industry probably could change, could very

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<v Speaker 8>well change. And that's kind of why I was suggesting,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, easing him in with vignettes, because you bring

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<v Speaker 8>him right out. He's cold, he hasn't taken any bump,

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<v Speaker 8>he hasn't been in the ring. You can ease and

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<v Speaker 8>back in through storylines, which gives them more than enough

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<v Speaker 8>time to recover and figure out where he's going to

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<v Speaker 8>fit into the new scheme of things going forward. Whether

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<v Speaker 8>that's a personality kind of like m VP that occasionally

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<v Speaker 8>does some some ships and giggles matches, or you know,

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<v Speaker 8>is he going to be able to go and get

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<v Speaker 8>back in the ring full time? That allows them that

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<v Speaker 8>flexibility as well. I'm working his character back in TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just asking my straightforward who's winning this match tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>night or tonight? Definitely? Yeah. I mean if hak Man

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't win, we riot everybody with me. Let's get your

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<v Speaker 3>pitchworks and your torches ready.

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<v Speaker 8>I think this match is kind of signaling to the

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<v Speaker 8>fans too, you know, this is going to be two

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<v Speaker 8>losses in a row. I do it feels to me like,

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<v Speaker 8>this is tony and creative saying, Okay, we're just letting

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<v Speaker 8>everybody know we've been listening.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the end of.

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<v Speaker 8>That that arc for the Yeah, it's gonna be something new.

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<v Speaker 8>That's that's what this feels like when you're doing this

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<v Speaker 8>back to back, Especially if Hanger gets two wins in

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<v Speaker 8>a row, which he needs to, Like, there's no way

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<v Speaker 8>they give Mocks that win and put the belt on it.

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<v Speaker 8>That would just evaporate all the good will they built up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, especially that big roar that you heard it

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<v Speaker 3>all in and you can't you can't squash that that

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<v Speaker 3>that would be the all time That would be an

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<v Speaker 3>all time dumb move.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're not hot enough to take a risk like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not. They can't, they're not hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>The only one I have with what you said, Barry

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<v Speaker 7>is that you guys are forgetting about the Darby situation.

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<v Speaker 7>They're not gonna they're not gonna end anything with the

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<v Speaker 7>death ridsun till Darby gets his revenge. And I think

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<v Speaker 7>that will be the final nail in the coffin, so

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<v Speaker 7>to speak, because.

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<v Speaker 3>You know is he likes to.

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<v Speaker 7>Have finishes to things that get started and Darby getting

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<v Speaker 7>thrown down the stairs. You gotta finish that. He's got

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<v Speaker 7>to have some revenge.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you can go a couple of different ways with that.

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<v Speaker 8>When you if we're winding down the death rids, kind

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<v Speaker 8>of like what I was saying is they they turn

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<v Speaker 8>on Mox after he loses again, and then those guys

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<v Speaker 8>get their come up and from Darby and others that

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<v Speaker 8>they've screwed over because they're they're leaderless or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You can. You can definitely wrap up those threads too,

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<v Speaker 1>and still and still get rid of Mox and.

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<v Speaker 7>I agree Forbidden Door and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that works.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, we'll see tonight what happens, and we'll be back,

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<v Speaker 3>of course after Dynamite tonight for all the talk, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're certainly going to talk about it. But I want

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<v Speaker 3>to move on because Mercedes Monet picked up two more belts,

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<v Speaker 3>the prime Time Wrestling Belt World Championship or Women's World

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<v Speaker 3>Championship and the best Ya Women's World Championship. Bestia is

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<v Speaker 3>a new UH organization out of Italy, so she is

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<v Speaker 3>the inaugural champion for that UH and Primetime Wrestling is

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<v Speaker 3>out of Poland UH. She defeated Diana Strong and Poland

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday. She did against Sapphire read on Friday defend

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<v Speaker 3>both the I'll Dispute a British Championship and the Quita

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<v Speaker 3>Southside Belt successfully in Wolverhampton. So we've been a busy

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<v Speaker 3>weekend in two different countries for Mercedes Monette. The question is,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you guys speel about Mercedes Monet having these

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<v Speaker 3>eight belts now? Yet? In the long term or short term?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a good or a bad thing?

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<v Speaker 4>It's getting to be a little much. I mean at

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<v Speaker 4>this point she's going to need a blinged out radio

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<v Speaker 4>flyer to carry all of her titles around with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, she did put a ad out on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if his tongue or tungue in cheek,

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<v Speaker 3>but she wanted somebody that could come follow her around

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<v Speaker 3>carrying her belts and must live an Orlando So if

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<v Speaker 3>you want a job for with Mercedes Monett, look her

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<v Speaker 3>up on Twitter, look up that post and respond to me.

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<v Speaker 8>I do live here in Orlando. I exercise regularly. I

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<v Speaker 8>think I'm pretty strong. I could probably carry her belts.

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<v Speaker 3>Burn There you go, we'll be seeing Berry on TV

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<v Speaker 3>toting around. Uh. Just remember that you know a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of gold her Well, Luther used to have that job,

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<v Speaker 3>but somehow, some way, his penis got detached. So keep

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<v Speaker 3>that in mind. You may not want to take that job.

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<v Speaker 1>He just yanked it right off right, It just came

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<v Speaker 1>right out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, out of frustration.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>What does anybody else?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it? What are more thoughts about this Mercedes

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<v Speaker 3>Monet with eight belts again?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a good thing or is it a bad thing?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't you you're stretching yourself way out too thin.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't defend those I mean, she she barely defends

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<v Speaker 7>the TBS title, and you know she's how many times

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<v Speaker 7>has she defended the other titles? Like once every She's

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<v Speaker 7>defending a title like once every three months. She's to me,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just she's holding down those companies women's divisions because

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<v Speaker 7>you have somebody that has all the belts and she's

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<v Speaker 7>not giving them matches.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the point in having the belts?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one thing to point out here is that other

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<v Speaker 3>than Rev. Prou there really isn't a women's division on

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<v Speaker 3>any of these companies. So just keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's great. I'm gonna disagree with something a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit on this not and I'll just disagree a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit. I think it's great because he's giving the

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<v Speaker 8>rub to promotions lineages that would never have a name

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<v Speaker 8>like this, and I think that's great. I don't think

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<v Speaker 8>she needs to be worried about being spread too thin

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<v Speaker 8>because these promotions aren't running monthly, they're not running a

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<v Speaker 8>whole lot, and if she needs to go back, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>sure they've worked out something where this is going somewhere

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<v Speaker 8>and she's going to drop a belt at some weight

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<v Speaker 8>back to them. But I think it's great. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>think we've seen a named star wars indies like this

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<v Speaker 8>and give small promotions the rub. She's clearly wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>wrestle around the world in a bunch of different countries.

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<v Speaker 8>My guess is she's probably got a list of countries

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<v Speaker 8>she wants to perform in, and if she can give

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<v Speaker 8>those promotions a rub with the belt, they'll work something out.

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<v Speaker 8>I think, though, to sutten your point, it is going

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<v Speaker 8>to hit a point where it becomes annoying, and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>I think that actually may be what they're working towards

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<v Speaker 8>and for her character. It feels like a collapse of

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<v Speaker 8>everything is kind of what that next chapter needs to

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<v Speaker 8>be so that we can see her hit rock bottom

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<v Speaker 8>after just failing to get to the mountaintop. But I

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<v Speaker 8>think it's a lot of fun. It can get long

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<v Speaker 8>in the tooth and too. Sun's point there is that

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<v Speaker 8>that is a legitimate concern if it carries on without

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<v Speaker 8>any direction that in the time being, I think it's

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody else with an opinion on this before I express mine? Well, look,

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<v Speaker 3>on Friday, she defended Mercedes, Monday defended against Sapphire Reid,

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<v Speaker 3>a wrestler that I had never heard of before. And

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<v Speaker 3>then on Sunday she won the championships, the two championships

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<v Speaker 3>in a match against Diana Strong, another wrestler I had

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<v Speaker 3>never heard of before, a wrestler by the way, who

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<v Speaker 3>grew up idolizing Sasha Banks. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you saw the video, but after the match there were

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of tears from Diana Strong because she realized

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<v Speaker 3>she just got to wrestle her idol and that's important.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's look at it this way. Don't even think of

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<v Speaker 3>the championships. This woman, Mercedes Monette is traveling around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and it'll be It would be one thing if she

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<v Speaker 3>was going into these arenas wrestling a match, leaving in

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<v Speaker 3>the arena and going home. She's spending all day meeting fans,

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<v Speaker 3>greeting fans, talking to fans before and after the matches,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's not leaving the next day. She's sticking around

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<v Speaker 3>and she's doing stuff in the cities, making herself visible.

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<v Speaker 3>This may mean nothing right now to any of us,

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<v Speaker 3>but ten years from now, when people women start coming in,

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<v Speaker 3>these twenty one year old, twenty two to twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>year old women are coming into a w and they're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here because Mercedes Monette made me want to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's going to be the big thing. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>long term that I'm looking at. You know. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>Mercedes Monet is a schedule I believe for September to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Italy to defend her new Vestia Women's World Championship. Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 3>she's the inaugural championship. They really don't have a division.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're if you want to make some make your

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<v Speaker 3>shows mean something, you're like one of your first shows

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<v Speaker 3>ever having Mercedes Monet in It is a pretty damn

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<v Speaker 3>smart move just putting it out there.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, Kelson AW is really focusing on international branding

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<v Speaker 8>as well. They do really well when they go overseas.

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<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't be shocked if some of this is also

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<v Speaker 8>to build that that that Goodwill ambassador brand type of

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<v Speaker 8>stuff for AW with a lot of these these other

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<v Speaker 8>countries that if they do a show in Germany or

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<v Speaker 8>they do a show in France or whatever somewhere in

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<v Speaker 8>the EU, that they can travel to. It makes a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of sense because it's just a train ride. Hey,

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<v Speaker 8>let's go catch that AW show. So and so remember

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<v Speaker 8>when they came to town and Mercedes wrestl.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 8>That stuff can matter if you're trying to build a

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<v Speaker 8>brand overseas too.

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<v Speaker 3>Who and again, you know you look at it. It

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<v Speaker 3>was so weird. I watched the Sapphire Reid and Mercedes

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<v Speaker 3>Monet match for the undisputed British World Championship at the

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<v Speaker 3>Southside Queen of Southside Championship and Sapphire Reid is a

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<v Speaker 3>mega heel and so Mercedes Monet went into that match.

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<v Speaker 3>As the babyface said, that was kind of weird to see.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you had her match on Sunday against Diana Strong,

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<v Speaker 3>and Diana Strong put on a wonderful match. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they had really good chemistry. You could tell that they

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<v Speaker 3>spent some time, you know, plotting out what was going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen. And already people are like praising Diana Strong,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've seen a bunch of people saying that she

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<v Speaker 3>needs to go right to start him, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's big, that's a big deal, you know. So again

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<v Speaker 3>that's another byproduct of these shows. I mean, I personally

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<v Speaker 3>see the I've said it many times. I do not

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<v Speaker 3>like people for Eddie Rusler to hold multiple belts, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is a little different because these belts by and

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<v Speaker 3>large are not aw belts. She's only holding the TBS

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<v Speaker 3>Championship in AW and frankly, I think it's putting the

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<v Speaker 3>women's division in a good place, especially, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>five ten years from now, it's going to make a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to make a difference, you know, Barry speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're talking about in an international matches you

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<v Speaker 3>god Forbidden Door coming up in less what is it

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<v Speaker 3>less than a month now, and and the aw tag

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<v Speaker 3>team tournament is going to be culminating a forbidden Door.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no international teams in this tournament bracket. The only

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<v Speaker 3>thing that really is kind of making any kind of

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<v Speaker 3>news here is the Cracks with MGF and the other

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<v Speaker 3>members of the Hurt Syndicate, who will be defending more

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<v Speaker 3>than likely at Forbidden Door against the winner of this tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you think this goes? Who do you think

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<v Speaker 3>is going to win this tournament? Right off the top

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<v Speaker 3>of your head.

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<v Speaker 8>It feels like FTR because they're trying to establish them.

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<v Speaker 8>But I also feel like that might be a red

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<v Speaker 8>herring or a swerve to me, if you want to

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<v Speaker 8>reset the Tag Division, you got to get it off

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<v Speaker 8>the Hurt Syndicate because they're just they're too big, if

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<v Speaker 8>that makes sense. They just because aw's athletes tend to

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<v Speaker 8>be smaller. When you bring in the like the Behemoth guys,

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<v Speaker 8>it's fun to see him beat people up, but when

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<v Speaker 8>they're a champion, it's hard to book them to.

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<v Speaker 1>Lose, right, And.

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<v Speaker 8>This tournament feels like a relaunch of the Tag Division,

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<v Speaker 8>like they got all the teams in there we always enjoy,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, And I'm super glad they swapped in juice

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<v Speaker 8>and decided to just keep going with that whatever they

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<v Speaker 8>were going to do with the guns. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, like any of the other teams other than

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<v Speaker 8>maybe the outrunners. You know, I'm cool with them getting

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<v Speaker 8>a run. I would have been cool with Big Bill

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<v Speaker 8>and Bran keep getting a run too. Like this, this

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<v Speaker 8>tournament feels like a reset to me, and I don't

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<v Speaker 8>really care who wins, just as long as they get

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<v Speaker 8>it off the Hurt Syndicate one way or another. It's

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<v Speaker 8>time to turn the page from them idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so maybe that's the reason this split is happening

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<v Speaker 4>with MJF and the Hurt Syndicate, Like they're getting over

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<v Speaker 4>his selfishness. They're going to kick him through the curb

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<v Speaker 4>as you know, like turning your back on him, j YEF,

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<v Speaker 4>Him and his fifty megga ton abandonment issues is a

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<v Speaker 4>terrible idea of and he I would, of spite will

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<v Speaker 4>cost them the championships.

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<v Speaker 2>That very well could be anybody else have any ideas.

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<v Speaker 9>I like that a lot because I think that's the

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<v Speaker 9>only way they can lose, because they're so strong that

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<v Speaker 9>the Hurt syndekid.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm worried about a screw job finish making the winners

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<v Speaker 8>look weak. So if they but it makes sense from

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<v Speaker 8>a storyline perspective for MGF to cost them. So if

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<v Speaker 8>they do that, they got to do it with the

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<v Speaker 8>right team who's still got a believable finisher and like

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<v Speaker 8>we buy as a legit champion. So if that's the

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<v Speaker 8>route they take, I feel like they're going to put

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<v Speaker 8>it with FTR then because his former champs, everybody we know,

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<v Speaker 8>they're believable. Even if they get some help the Shadow

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<v Speaker 8>Machine is going to put I still believe the Shadow

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<v Speaker 8>Machine would put Shelton or Bobby out for a three

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<v Speaker 8>either way. So a screwjob finish that leads into a

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<v Speaker 8>shatter machine I'm cool with that. But if it was

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<v Speaker 8>somebody like I don't know, one of the smaller teams

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<v Speaker 8>like I, just the screwjob finished would just make them

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<v Speaker 8>the week. So if they go there ll they gotta

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<v Speaker 8>be careful that and they need the winning team to

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<v Speaker 8>come out looking strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem that I have with a screwjob finish involving

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<v Speaker 3>MJF is that naturally then you would have Shelton, Benjamin

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<v Speaker 3>and Bobby Lashley going after MJF, and that's actually gonna

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<v Speaker 3>hurt MJF in the long run. He needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>going after, you know, swer Strickland, Hankman, Adam Page, will Ospray.

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<v Speaker 3>He needs to be serting himself back into the World

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<v Speaker 3>Championship and other championships in AW He's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest names in AAW and I'm sorry, but having him

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<v Speaker 3>languishing against Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin and a vengeance,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess is the best way of putting it. Storyline

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of like a waste of time to me.

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<v Speaker 8>What if this is for him to establish a new

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<v Speaker 8>group to help him achieve those goals though, So they

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<v Speaker 8>come after him and he gets back up. That's his

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<v Speaker 8>new group, and that's who he uses to help him

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<v Speaker 8>get back into the main event scene. When he does

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<v Speaker 8>use that contract to cash in, like, you can still

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<v Speaker 8>work it, you can still juice this for a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit and keep him, keep him right up there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>he's got that title belt, so you can insert him

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<v Speaker 8>whenever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, well you have that you have If they

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<v Speaker 3>do a new group, why not use part of the

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<v Speaker 3>old group.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's built right in now they owe him.

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<v Speaker 1>They owe him right back. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The best way for MGF to screw, hurt syndicate to

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<v Speaker 3>me is for him to do nothing when he has

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to do something, Just even pretend like he's

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't aware that acts Hardwood Hardwood was next to women,

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<v Speaker 3>that he could have taken them out, that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 3>like an innocent but guilty thing, you know, something that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so obvious.

424
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.160
<v Speaker 8>He's good at that on camera too. That's a good call, Kelson, Yeah,

425
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:19.079
<v Speaker 8>that's lavable. You can feign ignorance in the MGF way. Yeah,

426
00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:20.279
<v Speaker 8>I think that's that's clever.

427
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we have the Outrunners against we have

428
00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 3>Outrunners again.

429
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:26.119
<v Speaker 2>We have Outrunners against.

430
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:29.799
<v Speaker 3>The Young Bucks coming up uh this week, I believe

431
00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:35.599
<v Speaker 3>right and uh there have been many reports. Even Feifel

432
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 3>even said it that the Young Books intended on putting

433
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:44.640
<v Speaker 3>over the Outrunners several months ago, but it just wasn't

434
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.519
<v Speaker 3>the right time. I really do think the Outrunners are

435
00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 3>coming out on top of the Young Bucks.

436
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.240
<v Speaker 7>I think your final is going to be the Outrunners

437
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.400
<v Speaker 7>versus FTR. They're on the opposite side of each other

438
00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:00.200
<v Speaker 7>for another rematch to.

439
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a good call. Sting. I agree again.

440
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 7>I said it last week we talked about this. I

441
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.400
<v Speaker 7>still think that the MVF and hurt Cindy good thing

442
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:12.480
<v Speaker 7>is is a is A is a play. I don't think.

443
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:14.880
<v Speaker 7>I don't think the cracks are there yet. I think

444
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:16.680
<v Speaker 7>they're playing it up. I don't think they're gonna have

445
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.039
<v Speaker 7>I don't think whoever wins this tournament's going to beat them.

446
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.720
<v Speaker 7>I think, and I don't know why, but I think

447
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.519
<v Speaker 7>that this is gonna come down to They're gonna put

448
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:32.559
<v Speaker 7>Cope and uh the patriarchy together and they're going to

449
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 7>give him a run at them, and they're going to

450
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 7>win by hooker, by crook and get a short little

451
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.359
<v Speaker 7>run for the tag titles until Christian and them until

452
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:42.599
<v Speaker 7>they retire. I just I just see that coming for

453
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:43.160
<v Speaker 7>some reason.

454
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. One of the one interesting thing is and I

455
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.759
<v Speaker 3>have to fag, you know, claim ignorance here, but because

456
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know which title it is, but I believe

457
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 3>on the first of August MGF is going to CML

458
00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:02.920
<v Speaker 3>to wrestle for one of their singles championships. I just

459
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know which one it is, and maybe their World championship.

460
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 3>It may not be, but he is going there. So

461
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:10.799
<v Speaker 3>that's another thing.

462
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.200
<v Speaker 8>What if Mysticico screws him up and that sets him

463
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 8>against Mystico Forbidden Door and there's your international match.

464
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

465
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:20.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, that's one of the things about Forbidden Door.

466
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:22.559
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if you guys you agree with

467
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:24.519
<v Speaker 3>me on this, but there really just doesn't seem to

468
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 3>be any Forbidden doorsh matches.

469
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 2>It's Forbiden Door that are even possible, you know.

470
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:35.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean they're short, there's some mid cart

471
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.559
<v Speaker 3>stuff maybe, but nothing really big.

472
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>No.

473
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.960
<v Speaker 5>I was wondering what was gonna happen with that? And

474
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:46.640
<v Speaker 5>who's coming through the Forbidden Door. It doesn't seem like

475
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 5>there's anybody there.

476
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>You feel like this is going to.

477
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 8>Be one of their short two week builds like they

478
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 8>did this two years ago where they ran like a

479
00:26:55.359 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 8>whole month of programming after whatever the like prior to

480
00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:02.720
<v Speaker 8>Forbidden Door coming off the other pay per view and

481
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 8>then did like a two week build to Forbidden Door

482
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 8>and like that's all we got.

483
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Nobody came.

484
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.759
<v Speaker 3>There. Barry. It seemed to me like last year they

485
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.079
<v Speaker 3>had a one month build up toward Forbidden Door and

486
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 3>then after Forbid Door they had it going for like

487
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 3>another two or three weeks. It was like a seven

488
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.519
<v Speaker 3>It was like a seven week waste of time. Forbidden

489
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Door to me, you know, I hate being negative toward AW,

490
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.680
<v Speaker 3>but Forbidden Door to me is a monumental waste of time.

491
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 3>I've called it the great momentum killer because any moment.

492
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.759
<v Speaker 3>I love the fact that they're not even talking about

493
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Forbidden Door right now because they got too much going

494
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:50.200
<v Speaker 3>on to worry about that stupid exhibition match thing they

495
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 3>got going on.

496
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:52.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just the way I feel, honestly.

497
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 8>Forbidden Door, I think feels more like Grand Slam Mexico

498
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:57.079
<v Speaker 8>was this year.

499
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Like it.

500
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.240
<v Speaker 8>It can be just a showcase. And I thing they

501
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 8>should run a show in Japan next time. Just run

502
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 8>the show.

503
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with you. They could. They could very

504
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 3>well do it all women's show, not a Forbidden Door,

505
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 3>an all women's show in Japan with start of a

506
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:15.599
<v Speaker 3>t J p W.

507
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that'd be great, you know, so I'd.

508
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 8>Like to see that, yeah, because I mean the problem

509
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 8>with Forbid Door is the concept initially was all these

510
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 8>dream matches we wouldn't get. But I think we've said before,

511
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.440
<v Speaker 8>like a lot of that top talent is it's in

512
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 8>a w now, Yeah, and that next tier of New

513
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.039
<v Speaker 8>Japan is it's going to take them in that are

514
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 8>two or three years, you know, guys like Yodasuji and

515
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 8>them to really get there. And it just doesn't with

516
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:46.759
<v Speaker 8>Gabe Kid Hurt, like, yeah, a lot of left you know.

517
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got the Bull Club war Dogs, you got

518
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 3>what l L Desperado. Uh Hiroshi is definitely wrestling in

519
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Forbidden Door. We just don't know against who.

520
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Zach Saber Junior will show up Xaber Junior.

521
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.359
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's really all I can think of.

522
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, other than Tomahiroe and Minora Suzuki, you

523
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 3>know and whatever. You know.

524
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:18.000
<v Speaker 8>I yeah, ghetto in there. I mean, there's there's some

525
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 8>guys they can send over. It's just go ahead. I'm sorry.

526
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Somebody was talking I'll take a surprise NIGHTO maybe.

527
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I don't think so there. I

528
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 3>don't think that's possible.

529
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>But the build has been weak to your point, Telson.

530
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to move on to something more fun.

531
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:44.839
<v Speaker 3>On Collision, we saw Max Caster do his five minute

532
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:49.279
<v Speaker 3>open challenge for who can survive the best wrestler alive,

533
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Bowen's answered to call, and it was very strange

534
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 3>because about a minute into the match, the heel and

535
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:04.359
<v Speaker 3>babyface lip flopped. Anthony Bowen's is definitely the heel now

536
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:09.240
<v Speaker 3>and Max Caster, somehow, some way is now the babyface.

537
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>But just because Max Caster is the babyface does not

538
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 3>give me any confidence that he's in all of a

539
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 3>sudden to start surviving these five minute Survive with the

540
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Best Wrestler Live challenges. And does anybody else think that

541
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 3>the only solution, the only ending here is for the

542
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Acclaim to get back together.

543
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 4>I would like that very much. Look, I'm digging this

544
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 4>stuff that Max Caster is doing. It's very funny and

545
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 4>he's pulling it off very well. But I like both

546
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 4>Max and Anthony, but they're individually, Like the Acclaimed is

547
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 4>better than the some of its parts, I think, is

548
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 4>what I was getting at. I'm trying to get at

549
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>that's doesn't it's a magical tag team. The fact that

550
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 4>they like have like every every week we're able to

551
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.200
<v Speaker 4>like come up with a rap on the fly that

552
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 4>was guaranteed to make the crowd go oh, it was

553
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 4>so much fun. I miss them. Everybody loves the Acclaim.

554
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I see like a cheesy deathbed scene with Billy

555
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Gunn laying in the middle of the ring. You know,

556
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 3>he gets like a herd elbow, but he over sells it.

557
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 3>And he's laying there and he grabs Max Caster's hand,

558
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 3>he grabs Anthony Bowen's hands and he puts them together

559
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>and he says something like love one another, and then

560
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.119
<v Speaker 3>he faints and he has to be carried out of

561
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 3>the ring. And the two guys just reformed her bond,

562
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:47.960
<v Speaker 3>and everybody in there, you know, the stands and on

563
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.240
<v Speaker 3>TV cries and you know.

564
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 4>He puts their scissor fingers together.

565
00:31:54.640 --> 00:32:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm getting Missy Eye just sit here. Oh my god.

566
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of.

567
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's going to come down to probably have

568
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.759
<v Speaker 7>Max come out and save Bowens from something or the

569
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 7>other way around, and that's how they're going to get

570
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 7>back together, because that's normally what they do.

571
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I think. I don't know.

572
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:26.599
<v Speaker 8>There was a lot of heat on the acclaim, the

573
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:29.400
<v Speaker 8>same way people talk about mox now, Like, there was

574
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people who were just done with the acclaim,

575
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 8>that they were sick of the shtick, they didn't care

576
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 8>for it. They thought their wrestling had gotten kind of bland,

577
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 8>and I was excited with the split. I knew Max

578
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 8>Caster's chant would get over. Just keep them on TV

579
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 8>doing it and it would get over. And it is

580
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.319
<v Speaker 8>great now the whole shtick where the crowd nails it.

581
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 8>And he's like, guys, it's not very good, like, oh,

582
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 8>it's so good. But I don't think the problem is

583
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 8>their characters. It's it's been the booking. Like all they've

584
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 8>done with Max is the five Alive or the five

585
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 8>Minuts with the wrestler or whatever he calls it.

586
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>The best thing.

587
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 8>They did with him was something outside where he was

588
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 8>like running out and they chased him with the camera

589
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 8>and he was just talking about how this is the

590
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 8>only thing that ever mattered. Like that was some good

591
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 8>character work and they never followed up on it. And

592
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 8>then the same thing with Bowens, Like Bowenes is good

593
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 8>on the mic. What have they done with them so

594
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 8>like it's not him, they just they have not put

595
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 8>either of these guys in a position to be successful

596
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.039
<v Speaker 8>on their singles. Run And if the solution to that

597
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 8>is them deciding they're going to feud them in a

598
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 8>program because that's the best thing to get heat and

599
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 8>for that to work is for Castor to come out

600
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 8>as the sympathetic babyface who's just a loser, when the

601
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 8>reality is that's what he is. He's just a loser.

602
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:43.759
<v Speaker 8>He's not cheating or anything. He's just a loser, and

603
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 8>he's going to be a sympathetic loser and having Bowens

604
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 8>with the Frank rhymes from The Simpsons, just losing his

605
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 8>mind that people are cheering for this dastardly heel who

606
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.759
<v Speaker 8>you should be booing because he's a bad person and

607
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.480
<v Speaker 8>he's not me. I'm the pride of aw I'm goodie

608
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 8>two shoes Like that's a good heel gimmick too. And

609
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 8>so if they flip this and then run a program

610
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 8>that way, you can choose that and get some mileage

611
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 8>out of it and see if they can catch on

612
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 8>as singles performers. And if they do great. If they don't,

613
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 8>then revisit the acclaim. They'll have been They'll have been

614
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.320
<v Speaker 8>apart long enough. I think people will be longing for

615
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 8>it at that point. But I don't want them to

616
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:18.920
<v Speaker 8>give up on the singles runs. I think they just

617
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 8>need to give these guys something better to do.

618
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's one of those things that it's playing

619
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 3>out on Twitter just as much as it's playing out

620
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 3>on AWTV, you know what I mean. It's one of

621
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 3>those things where, especially on Anthony Bowen's part, he's kind

622
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.239
<v Speaker 3>of lost his mind over the last couple of days,

623
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, talking about Max Caster and all that kind

624
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 3>of stuff. Yeah, it's it's gonna be kind of interesting

625
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 3>to see where they do go from there. But what

626
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about next, and this is kind

627
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 3>of something that's important, I think, because when you look

628
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 3>at the landscape of AW, and you can even get

629
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 3>at this point compare it to WWE, if you wanted,

630
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>AW has a lot of black and LBGTQ wrestlers that

631
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 3>are thriving in both AW and Ring of Honor, and

632
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 3>I think it's fantastic, especially since you know, people have

633
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 3>been making comments that, especially on the LBGTQ side, all

634
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:46.159
<v Speaker 3>of those people are getting fired from a from WWE.

635
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.719
<v Speaker 3>It seems like and AW is pushing the hell out

636
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 3>of them, and they should because they're fine wrestlers. I

637
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>don't think that their skin color or their sexual orientation

638
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 3>has anything to do with it, but it just so

639
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 3>happens that they're fine wrestlers. But if you look at

640
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 3>the at the storylines that are going on with Max

641
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:18.719
<v Speaker 3>Caster and Anthony Bowens, the Hurt Syndicate Athena. I mean,

642
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 3>you're looking at a very diverse group of wrestlers here,

643
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 3>and I wanted to discuss this. How do you how

644
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:31.519
<v Speaker 3>do you guys personally feel about the strength of diversity

645
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 3>in AAW.

646
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 2>And again, I look.

647
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 3>At it as as I said earlier with Mercedes Monett,

648
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 3>her being out there doing what she's doing is bringing fans.

649
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Today that are.

650
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 3>Going to be wrestlers five and ten years from now

651
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 3>wanting to come to a w When you're looking at diversity,

652
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's the same thing you're looking at.

653
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 2>They're looking.

654
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 3>These wrestlers that are like them being pushed, and that

655
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 3>means my dream is to wrestle in AW.

656
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the whole point of not I'm not

657
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:18.719
<v Speaker 2>saying the.

658
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Whole point, but I think this is a strong point

659
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.199
<v Speaker 3>that can be made in what's going on in the

660
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:29.960
<v Speaker 3>diversity of AW, especially when you look at it against WWE.

661
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 4>I think it's just incredible. I mean, I knew it

662
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 4>was going to be something special and different right from

663
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 4>the beginning, when you had like people like Sonny Kiss

664
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 4>and Nyla Rose front and center. I miss Sunny Kiss

665
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot. They were just great. I hope they're doing

666
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.840
<v Speaker 4>well wherever the rest are now. And I really hope

667
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 4>that Nyla decides to She says she's happy working Backstaine,

668
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 4>but I'd love to see you in the ring again.

669
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, me too.

670
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 8>I can't believe I'm gonna start by leading this. I

671
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.320
<v Speaker 8>think WWE gets fairly unfairly maligned with some of this

672
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 8>stuff sometimes. But I think the key difference between the

673
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 8>two promotions because I would argue that they feature a

674
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 8>lot of minorities.

675
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

676
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 8>About LGTPQ people. I'm not really too familiar with much

677
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 8>of their talent, But I think the difference is just

678
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 8>aw lets them be outspoken in public about it and

679
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 8>comfortable and they can just do what they want, and

680
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 8>they can say what they want and they want to

681
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 8>say in a promo, they can. And I think that's

682
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 8>the key difference between the two promotions in general, is

683
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.039
<v Speaker 8>one is very managed and there are many performers that

684
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 8>can excel and look fantastic and are very happy in that,

685
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 8>and there's another that's a little looser around the edges

686
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 8>and lets you have to figure it out yourself. In

687
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.239
<v Speaker 8>some perform struggle on that and some for formers excel

688
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.199
<v Speaker 8>in that. And we've seen the talent go between the

689
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 8>companies and know who does well in better environments. And

690
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.639
<v Speaker 8>I'm glad that there is a promotion out there now

691
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:14.800
<v Speaker 8>that lets people just exceed period. There isn't a polish

692
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.280
<v Speaker 8>or a very specific way they want to frame things

693
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 8>and push a certain narrative and metrics and balance.

694
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just like who gets over, they get over.

695
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.719
<v Speaker 8>It doesn't matter what you are, and that's refreshing because

696
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.000
<v Speaker 8>it doesn't have to be a part of the story

697
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 8>and you don't really notice it. And that's the great

698
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 8>part of aw It's just normal now, it's not even

699
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.320
<v Speaker 8>a thing anymore. It's just like this is just then.

700
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 8>It's normal, and that's unique, and I don't think we've

701
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 8>had that in wrestling to date. And wrestling has always

702
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 8>been about plamboyance and fabulous costumes and being something you're

703
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:49.039
<v Speaker 8>not and having to pretend and then embracing who you are,

704
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 8>and a lot of that runs parallel to a lot

705
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 8>of the things the LBGTQ community has had to struggle

706
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 8>with and deal with and minorities have had to struggle

707
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 8>with and deal with. And to kind of see that

708
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 8>come full circle and wrestling and be embraced to a

709
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.079
<v Speaker 8>degree and just accept it as part of life is

710
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 8>pretty neat and I'm glad they're comfortable and it doesn't

711
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 8>even seem out of the ordinary. It just seems like

712
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 8>a normal thing on TV.

713
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Now.

714
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, something that came to comes to mindel in this

715
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.800
<v Speaker 4>discussion is this was like a like I don't know,

716
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 4>like was it a year or was it two ago?

717
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.000
<v Speaker 4>It was it was during that. It was during mjf's

718
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.400
<v Speaker 4>like little face run as part of when he was

719
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 4>doing the thing with a better than you bebe. There

720
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 4>was a part of that and it was just like

721
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 4>a little storyline. Nobody made a huge deal about it,

722
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 4>where Max Caster obviously had a crush on MJF and

723
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 4>like it was implicitly Max was definitely thinking like, how's

724
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.920
<v Speaker 4>it carried over to Twitter? Like Max Caster has a

725
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.639
<v Speaker 4>crush on MJF. And I'm I.

726
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 10>Remember definitely did, and I remember thinking like, wwe would

727
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.519
<v Speaker 10>never they would not have the gah and as to

728
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 10>do this even though it's perfectly normal and lot there's

729
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 10>tons of gay men getting crushes on all sorts of

730
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 10>other guys all the time out in the world.

731
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's not even that though, Jess. I mean, look,

732
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if how do I put this, I'm a

733
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>big Commander fan. I would turn into a five year

734
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 3>old girl if I saw Commander in real life, you know,

735
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 3>and he came out to me and I had an

736
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.719
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to talk to him. It's not about even you know,

737
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 3>being gay or anything like that. It's just being a fanboy,

738
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:32.760
<v Speaker 3>you know.

739
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not like you're a I mean, I

740
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:35.480
<v Speaker 2>love you.

741
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I yeah, you know.

742
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 1>You forget you forget Jess.

743
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 7>They did the whole Chuck and Billy.

744
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they did do that.

745
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 7>That was that was before any of this even was

746
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.000
<v Speaker 7>a thing. They had Chuck and Billy and those two

747
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:54.239
<v Speaker 7>were put over exactly as being gay towards each other.

748
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 7>That was the whole point of what WW did.

749
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I like the I think.

750
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 7>It was was it you Buried that said this is normal. Now,

751
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:05.239
<v Speaker 7>I like, it's normal. You don't have to think about

752
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:09.639
<v Speaker 7>it anymore because it's not a It's not a thing anymore.

753
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:13.360
<v Speaker 7>It's not You've got Max Caster, You've got the hurt syndicate.

754
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 7>You've got Monette, you've got Willow, you've got uh, you know,

755
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 7>you've got everybody, and nobody goes, oh, look it's a

756
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 7>black wrestler, or oh look they're gay, and they're not.

757
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 3>You know, they don't think about it anymore. And that's

758
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:29.719
<v Speaker 3>the best moment that is. But and when when you

759
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 3>don't have that diversity, it is noticeable, and I you know,

760
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:36.960
<v Speaker 3>look go back and look at some of these pay

761
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 3>per views over the last year of WWE, there have

762
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 3>been entire pay per views when not a single wrestler

763
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 3>of color on them.

764
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but how much is that people trying to see

765
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 8>what they want to see? And how much is that

766
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:56.519
<v Speaker 8>do you think? Like on purpose, like is a huge star, Jade,

767
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.000
<v Speaker 8>they're making to do huge star Rex and Perez is

768
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.239
<v Speaker 8>a huge star, Damian increases a huge star, Roman is

769
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:03.599
<v Speaker 8>a huge star like Naomi.

770
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That that I think.

771
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 8>Is people wanting to see some things they want to see.

772
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:11.559
<v Speaker 8>Maybe they're not featured the way we want. And I

773
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.119
<v Speaker 8>think there's criticism that you can have a show that

774
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.920
<v Speaker 8>that doesn't have any minorities or anybody. I think that's valid,

775
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 8>But I don't think there's how long asserted effort, you.

776
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Know how long years like and a half years.

777
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, you know, people, You're absolutely right. People

778
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.320
<v Speaker 7>want to see a bad thing. They're going to see it.

779
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:34.719
<v Speaker 7>There's nothing you can do to change their mind. If

780
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 7>they that there's racism in something, they're going to see that,

781
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 7>and there's absolutely nothing you can do to change that

782
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 7>person's thoughts. They're going to think that. Let them think

783
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 7>it's on them for you know, that's not on you

784
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 7>for not being It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

785
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I do think.

786
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 8>There is an era of WWE where that is a

787
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 8>valid criticism. But I think in the more modern area,

788
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 8>especially since like the oughts and stuff, I don't think

789
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 8>it's a big well I don't work there, so this

790
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 8>is just the perspective of a fan. Maybe I'm wrong,

791
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.039
<v Speaker 8>but at least on TV it doesn't. I don't think

792
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.119
<v Speaker 8>it's as big a problem some people want it to be,

793
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 8>although there is, there is valid criticism of some of

794
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 8>their shows, as there should be for any promotion.

795
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I will just say this and that I'm

796
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 3>proud of a w that when I look at their

797
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 3>match cards and I see they're championships, and things like that.

798
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 3>It's been pretty consistent, and I think diversity is a

799
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 3>big thing that is necessary and I just like it.

800
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:56.360
<v Speaker 3>That's it. Does anybody else have anything to say about that?

801
00:44:56.360 --> 00:45:00.639
<v Speaker 2>That is being very quiet tonight, Sorry.

802
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm here. I love the diversity, and we also have

803
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 5>to remember I think sometimes, as as fans, I'm a

804
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 5>little guilty of it, kind of thinking that the only

805
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:20.679
<v Speaker 5>other wrestlers in the world are from Japan and from Mexico.

806
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>So we have.

807
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 5>Seen that there are wrestlers from all over the world

808
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:31.079
<v Speaker 5>that are more than happy to come here and wrestle

809
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.880
<v Speaker 5>and are loved by fans and showcase a lot of

810
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:41.599
<v Speaker 5>their home country, a lot of their culture, and it's

811
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 5>it's really entertaining to see as fans. I really like it.

812
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:49.320
<v Speaker 5>I like the fact that they have a lot of

813
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 5>queer wrestlers on the roster. It shows that people are different.

814
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.400
<v Speaker 5>I love the differences amongst people, and we're at the

815
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.559
<v Speaker 5>end of the day, we are all sling fans and

816
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.079
<v Speaker 5>that's just the greatest thing in the world that wrestling

817
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 5>can bring so many kinds of people together. That fare

818
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 5>one thing which is the greatness of professional wrestling. It's

819
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:17.440
<v Speaker 5>just fantastic. I'm glad that AAW was really able to

820
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 5>bring this out and to to bring us all together.

821
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>It's really well said.

822
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really well said. I want to I want to

823
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 3>switch gears here because this is something else that I've

824
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 3>noticed in AAW and I'm sure you guys have to

825
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 3>and that in the booking, a lot more attention is

826
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.000
<v Speaker 3>being given to the mid card wrestlers, not only as

827
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 3>just random matches, but actual feuds and storylines going on

828
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 3>that don't even have titles attached to them. And I

829
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 3>personally think that's fantastic. And I wanted to get your,

830
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 3>uh your your opinions on this. I mean, go ahead, okay, yes, yeah, okay,

831
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 3>you're well jet stop because your MIC is all screwed

832
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:16.320
<v Speaker 3>up again.

833
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:25.960
<v Speaker 9>I'll say something like I remember during like the Attitude era,

834
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 9>it was like that whole feud with Rock and Stone

835
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 9>Cold for the Icy Belt that was mid card stuff.

836
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 9>And I really love that and I like that they're

837
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 9>doing that in AW.

838
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:41.760
<v Speaker 11>Now, and I I'm all for that, man, like, even

839
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:44.000
<v Speaker 11>if it's not for a belt like the Max Caster

840
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:49.000
<v Speaker 11>and Anthony Bowen stuff, that assume that's mid card stuff,

841
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 11>and like you have like I want to see Josh

842
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:57.880
<v Speaker 11>Alexander get out there on TV more and who's that.

843
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 3>The Bruce go there?

844
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 2>He's on TV more.

845
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 11>I like that he's I don't know, i'd say he's

846
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 11>a mid carter yeah as well, but yeah, I like

847
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 11>seeing that. It's just more TV time for those guys.

848
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

849
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you have to build storylines around everything

850
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.719
<v Speaker 3>that you do, because just doing storylines for the championships

851
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 3>makes everything else basically squash matches because they're meaningless.

852
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

853
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't like the squash match. Yeah, but I mean

854
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.000
<v Speaker 3>a ten minute, fifteen minute match can still be a

855
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 3>squash match when you know that there's nothing involved in it,

856
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, there's no.

857
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Stakes to it.

858
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 3>You brought up Mexican, not Max, Max Maxwell, Jacob Friedman

859
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 3>and Mark Brisco. There's been no belts really involved in that.

860
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just an all out just I don't like you,

861
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:57.800
<v Speaker 3>you don't like me. Let's let's uh, let's go for it.

862
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's a grudge matches. Job with that.

863
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:05.159
<v Speaker 2>In the women's division as.

864
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 8>Well, somebody had mentioned the attitude or was that you

865
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 8>Steve a second ago?

866
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 3>That was me?

867
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.760
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think it was God I can't believe I'm

868
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 8>using this as an example. I think it was Vince

869
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 8>Russo talking about when he was booking WWE, they tried

870
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 8>to get everybody on TV each week and the mantras,

871
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:27.320
<v Speaker 8>give somebody, give them something to do.

872
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter.

873
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 8>If it was two heels in the background talking to

874
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 8>each other, two faces, you'd see that often, but they'd

875
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:37.199
<v Speaker 8>get everybody on TV. And I keep coming back to

876
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 8>Harley Cameron as an example of this. It's like, if

877
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.719
<v Speaker 8>you want to get mid card talent over, keep them

878
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 8>on TV. They don't have to win, but you got

879
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 8>to give us a reason and rude or care for him.

880
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.679
<v Speaker 8>And a lot of these these three and format or

881
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.079
<v Speaker 8>these six and eight man tags that they've been doing

882
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 8>has been replacing the squash matches they used to do.

883
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 8>And what happens, well, typically it's two bigger characters that

884
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.239
<v Speaker 8>are feuding and they're teamed up with their allies or

885
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 8>in the case of bad guys, just another group of

886
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 8>bad guys, and that kind of reminds people and reinforces

887
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 8>the face first, the heel stuff and what have they

888
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 8>done in these matches? And I Thinkkelson just mentioned it

889
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.880
<v Speaker 8>is yeah, you got the two main names in the

890
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:17.239
<v Speaker 8>matches it's built around. But then you got these other

891
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.559
<v Speaker 8>guys plugged in that you start feuds up. And I

892
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.519
<v Speaker 8>come back to like Theckla and Aminada, their whole feud

893
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.039
<v Speaker 8>has been done in the ring. There's been no promos

894
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 8>really for that. It's just been they got thrown into

895
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 8>an eight woman or six women tag or whatever and

896
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:30.679
<v Speaker 8>started beating the crap out of each other.

897
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 3>And no, there's no belt involved, just a good old

898
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 3>fashioned grudge match.

899
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:41.079
<v Speaker 8>But you keep them on TV, give them a chance

900
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.119
<v Speaker 8>to get over, give us the reason that care for

901
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 8>these two people beat the crap out of each other.

902
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 8>You don't, And then now you've.

903
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Got people who are over.

904
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 8>And when you need to cycle somebody anew for a

905
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 8>championship run, there you go. You got you got that

906
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 8>next year of people ready to go.

907
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 3>Yep. I mean, And Harley Cameron is probably coming back

908
00:50:56.719 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 3>soon because she's been doing a little bit of vignettes lately,

909
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:09.320
<v Speaker 3>both on AW programming and behind the scenes, so that's

910
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:10.519
<v Speaker 3>good news again.

911
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Like you had the Max.

912
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Gaster and and Anthony Bowens thing that has no belts

913
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:22.360
<v Speaker 3>involved in it, there's plenty of stuff going on you know,

914
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 3>the the tag team thing. The tag team tournament kind

915
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 3>of puts something on it. But the Outrunners and Young

916
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Bucks have been brewing for a while, you know, and

917
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:39.239
<v Speaker 3>just because it's culminating, I guess in a tag team

918
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 3>tournament doesn't mean that they didn't plant the seed. So

919
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 3>that this match has extra meaning to it, and it's

920
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 3>not just just just not a tournament match. It's a

921
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 3>it's got a little bit more meaning to it. That's

922
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 3>that's what we need. But you can overdo it as well.

923
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:01.440
<v Speaker 3>You can't have the same people fighting in meaningful matches

924
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:07.239
<v Speaker 3>over and over again, and he would if you keep

925
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.800
<v Speaker 3>doing it. It kind of takes away from it. A

926
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 3>lah hang Mananda Page and John Moxley tonight on Dynamite.

927
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a lot of people say that they

928
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:19.920
<v Speaker 3>don't really understand why they're doing this match.

929
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I kind of get it.

930
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Barrier you said it earlier. Was

931
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 3>they're doing this match to put the final not I

932
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 3>don't want to say nail the coffin, but a finality

933
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 3>to the storyline that yes Page is the champion and

934
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 3>John Moxley cannot beat hang Man Adam Paige. Now if

935
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Moxley wins tonight, then it kind of just throws everything

936
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:47.199
<v Speaker 3>under the bus.

937
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

938
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 9>I also like what Ricochet is doing. I just I

939
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:55.719
<v Speaker 9>just love his heel character so much.

940
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Sure, and he's not in a title picture.

941
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 8>No, Ricochet is a great mid card heel, Like there

942
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 8>is a lost art of mid card heels that can

943
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:13.280
<v Speaker 8>get heat, they can make make baby faces look great,

944
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.840
<v Speaker 8>they know how to get people over and then that's

945
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 8>who you pluck that that main event terry heel from.

946
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.039
<v Speaker 8>But there is a lost art of the mid card

947
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.320
<v Speaker 8>heeled and Ricochet is perfectly in that role. Like it's

948
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 8>been so much fun.

949
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Killing it, yeah, killing it. Yeah, Jess, when you've been

950
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 3>talking and you sound like a space alien, a drunk

951
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 3>space and alien.

952
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh, go ahead and leave the chair.

953
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just look, don't try to talk, uh, but just

954
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 3>go ahead and leave the channel completely and come back

955
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:49.599
<v Speaker 3>and see if that rectifies the situation. I mean, go

956
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:51.960
<v Speaker 3>right out of discord completely then come back.

957
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:55.239
<v Speaker 9>Sounded like fifteen feet away from.

958
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 8>The mic last time I did it, I think she

959
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:04.760
<v Speaker 8>had yeah.

960
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeah, so look. The important thing to me

961
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 3>is that aw, especially in twenty twenty five, has gotten

962
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 3>so much better with storylines, and a lot of that

963
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 3>has to do with the storylines in the mid card

964
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 3>because it sets up championship storylines down the line. You know,

965
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 3>That's the way I look at it. Let's see, let's

966
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:34.400
<v Speaker 3>see what just sounds like?

967
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Hi, can you hear me? Now?

968
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Much better?

969
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 4>Thank you? No, I was just going to concur with

970
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:53.239
<v Speaker 4>the MJF and and Mark Brisco MJF is actually very

971
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:57.519
<v Speaker 4>good at this. He is excellent at saying something so

972
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 4>utterly vile, making him pay for what he said becomes

973
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:04.400
<v Speaker 4>very legitimate stakes.

974
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:11.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think you're spot on. That's how you that's

975
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.199
<v Speaker 8>how you can introduce stakes to something and not have

976
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:16.280
<v Speaker 8>a title on the line or you know, a stupid

977
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:19.440
<v Speaker 8>cash game. It is a lost art, Jess. That was

978
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 8>part of what made us root against Heels. It wasn't

979
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.199
<v Speaker 8>always to see them lose the title. It was because

980
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 8>we hated them because they did something dastardly. And there

981
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 8>isn't a lot left in wrestling today that can do that.

982
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 8>And m jeff is one of the ones that just

983
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 8>we want to see him get his come up and

984
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 8>for just something just vile that he did. And uh,

985
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.199
<v Speaker 8>and I think you're spot on with that.

986
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 9>Well, didn't he say like the wrong brother died.

987
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Or something like that.

988
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:55.480
<v Speaker 8>Jeez, man, yeah, it was it was bad.

989
00:55:55.719 --> 00:56:03.559
<v Speaker 1>He said it twice, I did, he did. Yeah.

990
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe we're laughing about the wrong brother died.

991
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:16.960
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I know, yeah, for a whole different reason though. Look,

992
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:19.639
<v Speaker 3>let's go ahead out to our pot pourrix and I know, Jess,

993
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:24.320
<v Speaker 3>you had a pote prie that you had posted about

994
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 3>about something that you read over it greatness or wrestling.

995
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:31.719
<v Speaker 4>I do it was actually a discussion I am the

996
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 4>first discussion I took part in. Over there, someone had

997
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 4>mentioned like, why are there no managers anymore? And me

998
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:43.840
<v Speaker 4>and a couple of other people were quick to point

999
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:47.280
<v Speaker 4>out that a e o U has managers for days.

1000
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 4>But not only do they have a lot of managers,

1001
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 4>every single manager they have is very good at what

1002
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 4>they do.

1003
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I mean, what if you have Stokely Hathaway,

1004
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Prince Nana, you have MVP Don Kallus.

1005
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:10.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh definitely, and don't forget smart Mark Sterling.

1006
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you can put Shane Taylor in there. Heck,

1007
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 3>can you put Shane Taylor? Do you got to put

1008
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Chris Jericho in there too? Although I think Chris Jericho

1009
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 3>has lost his family, has lost this tree because if

1010
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 3>did you notice Brian Keith is no longer being referred

1011
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:31.360
<v Speaker 3>to as the bad Apple.

1012
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Really, it's been a long time since anybody's called Bill

1013
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:36.880
<v Speaker 4>the Redwood.

1014
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:42.159
<v Speaker 1>He's uh yeah, those are gonna get us push starting

1015
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:42.800
<v Speaker 1>in Scotland.

1016
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 10>Watch.

1017
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh you know he's I mean, they love him over you,

1018
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:46.960
<v Speaker 3>they love.

1019
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Him, they love him.

1020
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:50.400
<v Speaker 8>He's going to be They should make him that That

1021
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:52.599
<v Speaker 8>is if Tony, if you are going to pick a

1022
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.519
<v Speaker 8>moment for the push for him to start, that is

1023
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 8>where it happens, because he will be more over there

1024
00:57:57.880 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 8>than anywhere else in the next six months.

1025
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Yep, I I totally. That was one of the best

1026
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:09.000
<v Speaker 3>things were they were in Wales Cardiff. Yeah, yeah, and

1027
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 3>that whole thing with Big Bill was absolutely one of

1028
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.320
<v Speaker 3>the best things I've ever seen. It rest like that was.

1029
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.440
<v Speaker 8>Just didn't they cheer him at Grand Slam New Zealand

1030
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 8>what do they call the one in New Zealand or no,

1031
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:26.599
<v Speaker 8>Australia Grand Slam Australia, I don't remember. I think they

1032
00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:28.440
<v Speaker 8>cheered the heck out. That was like the first time

1033
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.320
<v Speaker 8>I think overseas, like, yeah, I think that fact. There

1034
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:34.239
<v Speaker 8>was another place overseas where he was super over.

1035
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:41.440
<v Speaker 12>But it was just his he's so good, he's so

1036
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:45.639
<v Speaker 12>good and and his reaction worship perfect.

1037
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.119
<v Speaker 3>His reactions were perfect.

1038
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And he's so good on the mic.

1039
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:54.599
<v Speaker 8>He's good looking, he's got a good move set, he

1040
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:56.079
<v Speaker 8>works safe, he knows.

1041
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 1>How to make people look good. I don't know if

1042
00:58:57.639 --> 00:58:59.760
<v Speaker 1>there's something else on them back, but like, man, it's

1043
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm to let him. Give him a run. Dude, just

1044
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:03.039
<v Speaker 1>give him a run.

1045
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:05.559
<v Speaker 2>You know what you meant. I think it was you

1046
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:06.719
<v Speaker 2>to mention it before.

1047
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, the problem with Big Bill is that he's

1048
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:12.960
<v Speaker 3>just too damn big. Yeah, there's nobody, you know, the

1049
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 3>top guys can't realistically match up against him.

1050
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.639
<v Speaker 8>The storyline for that that type of thing is you

1051
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:21.880
<v Speaker 8>got to tire him out. And that's I think, what

1052
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.280
<v Speaker 8>if FDR takes on the hurt syndica, that's you know

1053
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:26.480
<v Speaker 8>what we're going on a tangent. Never mind, let's get back.

1054
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:36.960
<v Speaker 3>To Yeah, yeah, Jess with the managers. You know, as

1055
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:40.719
<v Speaker 3>someone that does not watch w W as well, do

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00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.639
<v Speaker 3>they even have any managers in w W A I

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00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:45.239
<v Speaker 3>think so.

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00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Paul Hayman, Yeah, I would go with him.

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00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, he's a wise man. I guess it's the

1060
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:56.320
<v Speaker 4>same thing.

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00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.519
<v Speaker 8>They have a lot of factions where the leader kind

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00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.159
<v Speaker 8>of does them managing and stuff. Yeah, like yeah, you know,

1063
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:04.559
<v Speaker 8>they do it a little different there, but they have

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01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:05.719
<v Speaker 8>like that kind of figurehead.

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01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:08.639
<v Speaker 1>It's just an active performer in a lot of instances.

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01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think, like somebody remarked in the thread that

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01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:15.800
<v Speaker 4>like it was because Vince hated me, actually hated managers

1068
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 4>the same way he hated tag teams. So that's why

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01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.400
<v Speaker 4>you sort of saw both of them decline.

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01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But he had Jimmy Hart with.

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01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:26.960
<v Speaker 3>A leaders.

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01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Was making money. Man, that's automatics.

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01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:38.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess does anybody else have a potpourri?

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01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I got a quick one?

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01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:43.880
<v Speaker 8>So I waspartner around on YouTube and I don't know

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01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:47.400
<v Speaker 8>if it's will Osprey's old YouTube account or somebody that

1077
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 8>just had his name back then, but it's like a

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01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:53.360
<v Speaker 8>thirteen year old video and it's him and a gymnasium

1079
01:00:53.400 --> 01:01:00.599
<v Speaker 8>with I guess some friends. Well, backflip from the turn

1080
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 8>buckle into the ring is full of like foam cubes,

1081
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:09.440
<v Speaker 8>but he does a double shooting star press like right

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01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:11.000
<v Speaker 8>on and he would have landed on the mat. I

1083
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:12.760
<v Speaker 8>don't know if he could, if it's possible to land

1084
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 8>that on a person, but it's insane, and like he's

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01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.519
<v Speaker 8>a teenager in this, like like fifteen sixteen, probably.

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01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Maybe a little older than that.

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01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 8>Like I said, the videos like thirteen years old. But

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01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:24.960
<v Speaker 8>if you get a chance, go go look it up

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01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 8>on YouTube. It's like fifteen seconds long and it's bonkers.

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01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I have to send the link if you could

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01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:32.480
<v Speaker 2>still find it.

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01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, it's in my history. I'll post it up

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01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:36.400
<v Speaker 8>in the discord if I can take it up.

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01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:39.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do that, you.

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01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.920
<v Speaker 4>See. I hate saying this because I love him so much,

1097
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 4>But now that Kenny's career is starting to wind down,

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01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:53.239
<v Speaker 4>I think there's a case to be made for will

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01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:55.599
<v Speaker 4>Osprey being the best wrestler in the world.

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01:01:55.679 --> 01:02:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Now that's been the case for probably two years.

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01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 4>Is it Kenny or is it Will? But yeah, I

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01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:10.159
<v Speaker 4>think it's Will.

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01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Now. The thing that I've seen pointed out by w

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01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.679
<v Speaker 3>W fans about will Osprey, and I actually have to

1105
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:25.280
<v Speaker 3>agree with it, is that he's he's a very athletic wrestler.

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01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:30.239
<v Speaker 3>The things he can do in the ring are astounding,

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01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:33.559
<v Speaker 3>and especially when you put him in with the likes

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01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:37.840
<v Speaker 3>of Swerve, Strickland, Kenny Omega something like that. You're you know,

1109
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 3>you're going to get an athletic multi move counters match

1110
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:49.960
<v Speaker 3>over the top even but where he lacks. And I'm

1111
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:53.800
<v Speaker 3>saying this as an Osprey fan, but I get what

1112
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:58.360
<v Speaker 3>WWE fans are saying about Will Osprey is the lack

1113
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:03.480
<v Speaker 3>of selling. He could get absolutely dropped on his head

1114
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:08.519
<v Speaker 3>and pop right up and do a Tiger Driver, you know,

1115
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 3>and that just shouldn't happen. And I agree with them

1116
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 3>on that because he does it a lot on in

1117
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:19.199
<v Speaker 3>every single match he does. He doesn't sell. He doesn't sell. Yet, yes,

1118
01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 3>to get better at selling.

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01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.840
<v Speaker 8>One spot in the match, like he does the fighting

1120
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:28.679
<v Speaker 8>spirit too much. Yeah, like they did on the tag

1121
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:30.960
<v Speaker 8>match It All In, Like they built the one fighting

1122
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 8>spirit where they got up after the sequence and did

1123
01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:36.920
<v Speaker 8>the blade swerve or the house call at the same

1124
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.760
<v Speaker 8>time and then they collapse like that's perfect. He does

1125
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:41.880
<v Speaker 8>it two or three times in some matches exactly.

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01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what I'm talking about. And when you when

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01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:50.039
<v Speaker 3>I posted that particular segment from from All In on

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01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the Greatness a wrestling webs Greatness a wrestling subreddit they

1129
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't watch the whole twenty twenty five minute match, however

1130
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:03.239
<v Speaker 3>long it was. They saw that they were like this,

1131
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:07.320
<v Speaker 3>that's stupid. You've got you know.

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01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 8>It was like, it's not like no sell spots is

1133
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:14.400
<v Speaker 8>a new thing, Like it's been done forever, Like like

1134
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:16.960
<v Speaker 8>you can go through the tape and there's Stone Cold

1135
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:19.280
<v Speaker 8>in the Rock and brock Lesener and Underlake.

1136
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:21.360
<v Speaker 1>That's it's not a new thing.

1137
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, who came back from well, I don't want to

1138
01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:28.159
<v Speaker 3>say that, but who came back in matches more often

1139
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:33.480
<v Speaker 3>by no selling than whole Cogan? Yeah, shot out, flat

1140
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.400
<v Speaker 3>out down and out right on the break, and then

1141
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:40.000
<v Speaker 3>he would get up and just point.

1142
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:47.159
<v Speaker 8>That the fighting spirit, like the calling attention to it

1143
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:49.679
<v Speaker 8>like they do in Japan. That's a very Japanese thing

1144
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:52.480
<v Speaker 8>that they've brought, like that's why it stands out and

1145
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:54.559
<v Speaker 8>like a lot of the older no selling. But it's

1146
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:58.639
<v Speaker 8>like like, no, it's a valid criticism. I don't really

1147
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 8>care myself. Some people get worked up about it, and

1148
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.119
<v Speaker 8>I think it's valid. But I do think that the

1149
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 8>fighting spirit spots he doesn't.

1150
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, here's the thing is that you know

1151
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:13.639
<v Speaker 3>special you know, one of the biggest complaints was though,

1152
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:17.920
<v Speaker 3>is that like will Ospray just got dropped on his

1153
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:21.760
<v Speaker 3>head and now he's back on his feet doing a move. Well,

1154
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 3>first of all, he didn't really get dropped on his head,

1155
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:27.760
<v Speaker 3>because if he had gotten dropped on his head from

1156
01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.440
<v Speaker 3>ten feet up in the air, he definitely wouldn't be

1157
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:33.880
<v Speaker 3>getting up and doing a move. You know, it's wrestling,

1158
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:38.639
<v Speaker 3>it's art, it's it's theater, it's you know, play fighting

1159
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.320
<v Speaker 3>in your underpants. I mean, come on, yes, they are

1160
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:44.719
<v Speaker 3>the reason why they're so impressive is that they're not

1161
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:46.960
<v Speaker 3>killing each other out there, and they're able to pull

1162
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:54.360
<v Speaker 3>these tremendously athletic moves off without getting their next broken

1163
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:59.320
<v Speaker 3>and everything like that on a like every single match.

1164
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, do these guys watch the John Wick movies?

1165
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And really is just not realistic.

1166
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 8>I'm leaving and they just get out when they're like

1167
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 8>double popcorn or whatever and leave, like, come on, man,

1168
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:11.280
<v Speaker 8>it's a stunt show.

1169
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a movie you get to watch live. Get over

1170
01:06:14.840 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the cell.

1171
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, you know what when you're when you're talking

1172
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:20.599
<v Speaker 3>about that, this is something interesting. Have you ever have

1173
01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:25.519
<v Speaker 3>any have any the movies, The Bourne Identity, the Bourn

1174
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.679
<v Speaker 3>All the Bourne movies, the Jason Bourne movies. Right, they're

1175
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.599
<v Speaker 3>action packed movies, right, but they're based on books.

1176
01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:39.039
<v Speaker 2>In the books, one punch and that's it.

1177
01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:40.719
<v Speaker 3>They're done.

1178
01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:42.079
<v Speaker 2>And they did an.

1179
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Interview with Robert Ludemo was the author of these Born books,

1180
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.679
<v Speaker 3>and they say, why do your fights end like that?

1181
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Because if you standing there and you get punched in

1182
01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:56.320
<v Speaker 3>the face, square in the nose, you're not gonna be

1183
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:58.920
<v Speaker 3>able to get up and start doing flips, you know,

1184
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.920
<v Speaker 3>and then fighting, you know, you're done. What punch, you're done,

1185
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:06.719
<v Speaker 3>depending on the punch, you know. And and that's you know,

1186
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:12.480
<v Speaker 3>but that's taking it literal in you know, in that sense.

1187
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:17.480
<v Speaker 3>But wrestling is not literal. Yeah, it never has been.

1188
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:20.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a visual medium. You know.

1189
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:23.320
<v Speaker 8>A book is not a visual medium. You need to

1190
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:26.480
<v Speaker 8>you need to add panache, you need to make it vibrant,

1191
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:28.280
<v Speaker 8>you need to make it you have to. You have

1192
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:33.559
<v Speaker 8>to show motional and that's what they do. It's faster now,

1193
01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.000
<v Speaker 8>you know. I look at will Ospbury matches from a

1194
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:38.199
<v Speaker 8>few years ago to the work he does today. I

1195
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:41.719
<v Speaker 8>prefer today now that he's slowed down. I thought, you know,

1196
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:43.599
<v Speaker 8>when he was younger, it was great, But I think

1197
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:46.119
<v Speaker 8>his work's better now, and it's going to get better

1198
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:48.159
<v Speaker 8>now that he's even a little banged up and he's

1199
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:51.199
<v Speaker 8>starting to realize he's mortal and slows it down a

1200
01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:52.760
<v Speaker 8>little bit. It's going to make the stuff he does

1201
01:07:52.800 --> 01:08:00.159
<v Speaker 8>seem more important. Right, Like you said, it's sake. Who cares?

1202
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 8>The point is to entertain you? Are you entertained?

1203
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Great? And who cares? You know?

1204
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:09.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's face it, if if Big Bill gave

1205
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:11.800
<v Speaker 3>you a clothes line off the ropes, would you be

1206
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:12.400
<v Speaker 3>standing up?

1207
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:15.480
<v Speaker 2>You'll be dead, You'd be gone, You've been done.

1208
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:17.920
<v Speaker 3>You're not cold.

1209
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

1210
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:21.960
<v Speaker 8>You know, anybody gives a clothes line to somebody's neck,

1211
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 8>they're gonna get hurt.

1212
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:24.119
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even need to be Big Bill.

1213
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:27.039
<v Speaker 3>Like even if you have a close light to the chest,

1214
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:29.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's just like you're still gonna go down.

1215
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.439
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna be like, you know, you're gonna be like,

1216
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:33.199
<v Speaker 3>did I.

1217
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Just have a heart attack here? You know what's going

1218
01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:36.039
<v Speaker 2>on here?

1219
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Your lungs are collapsed and everything. You know, you can't

1220
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:45.479
<v Speaker 3>look at wrestling matches as anything but athletic art.

1221
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:50.079
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I love it, but let's face it.

1222
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:53.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, you get popped in the face, and wrestling

1223
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.039
<v Speaker 3>is differently getting popped in the face in a fight.

1224
01:08:56.600 --> 01:09:00.279
<v Speaker 3>You ever watch the real life fights, you know, even

1225
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:05.600
<v Speaker 3>involving wrestlers where they're fighting somebody in real life or

1226
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:09.760
<v Speaker 3>just really out on the street or whatever, they don't

1227
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:11.399
<v Speaker 3>look the same. You know.

1228
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:12.279
<v Speaker 2>You get popped and.

1229
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Or down and they're like unconscious looks like yeah, yeah.

1230
01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:24.359
<v Speaker 8>Like MMA is like some people love it. I get

1231
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:26.760
<v Speaker 8>it's real, but it's boring. Like I want to see

1232
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 8>people doing flips and ship.

1233
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:33.600
<v Speaker 3>That's why. You know, if you get hit hard enough,

1234
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:34.560
<v Speaker 3>they do flips and git.

1235
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.560
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Like you know, I like, I understand people who

1236
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.279
<v Speaker 8>enjoy MMA. It's not my jam. I can appreciate a

1237
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:43.880
<v Speaker 8>good fight at like a good boxing match. It's different.

1238
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.319
<v Speaker 8>I think the pacing for boxing appeals a little bit

1239
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:48.560
<v Speaker 8>better to me than MMA because it's so grappling based.

1240
01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:52.239
<v Speaker 8>But like, unless you're like really into it, it's like golf,

1241
01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:54.840
<v Speaker 8>you have to understand that or no, I'm sorry, it's

1242
01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:56.680
<v Speaker 8>like pitching in baseball. To really get into you need

1243
01:09:56.680 --> 01:09:59.119
<v Speaker 8>to understand the particulars and why grips and like it's

1244
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:01.920
<v Speaker 8>a very technical MMA is a very technical sport now,

1245
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:03.319
<v Speaker 8>and like, I just want to.

1246
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:05.279
<v Speaker 1>See people beating each other up. And if it's fate,

1247
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it's fate. Who cares. I don't want to see people

1248
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:09.640
<v Speaker 1>like inn a pretzel for forty five minutes.

1249
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:13.640
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I like to see a thousand chops in

1250
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:14.199
<v Speaker 5>the corner.

1251
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I like to see just ridiculous stuff.

1252
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, don't even give me.

1253
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:25.119
<v Speaker 8>Well, that's somebody on the TV going but he's unconscious,

1254
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:25.720
<v Speaker 8>Like what do you do?

1255
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, Eddie. That's one thing about Eddie Kingston.

1256
01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:34.239
<v Speaker 3>He can hit a thousands chops in like thirty seconds. Yeah,

1257
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:39.319
<v Speaker 3>of course, I have no mark, no marks on the

1258
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:41.920
<v Speaker 3>other guy's chest. But he's got a bunch of bruises

1259
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:50.800
<v Speaker 3>on his thigh. But I don't know, I don't know.

1260
01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:53.319
<v Speaker 4>Leave it alone.

1261
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:57.159
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, hey, man, if you're going to pull off a

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<v Speaker 8>believable chop and you don't leave a mark on the

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<v Speaker 8>guy and everybody and she like beat the heck out

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<v Speaker 8>of him, then you're doing a good job man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, I love it what I see a

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<v Speaker 3>chop and the other guy's bleeding from his chest after

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<v Speaker 3>like four.

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<v Speaker 2>Or five chops.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're bleeding from your thigh or something wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, he's menstruating again, you know, didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>The Young Bucks have a mean ones at being the

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<v Speaker 8>elite where they were walking backstage and they had their

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<v Speaker 8>thighs wrapped in ice, and there's like, what was you know,

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<v Speaker 8>why are your thighs wrapped? And they're like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 8>had to do a lot of super We did a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of super kicks in the last match because they

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<v Speaker 8>did like ten or twelve. But and they you know,

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<v Speaker 8>for smacking the thigh when they did it, and so

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<v Speaker 8>that's why they had the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ice is to ice down where they were smacking.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that was them. I'm pretty sure it was.

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<v Speaker 8>It might have not been, but I think it was

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<v Speaker 8>a I think it was them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why the.

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<v Speaker 4>Lost cerential humor they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's why I love stiff matches, because when

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<v Speaker 3>somebody punches somebody like in the chest or kicks them

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<v Speaker 3>in the chest and instead of going slap, it goes thud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that, you know, so drown a.

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<v Speaker 1>Good punch is a lost art man.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a couple of guys in the eighties and nineties

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<v Speaker 8>who threw really good punches and there aren't many left now.

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<v Speaker 8>And to your point, kelsonink if they can do it

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<v Speaker 8>and either with a certain type of stomp they get

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<v Speaker 8>that thud, or they can do it where it just

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<v Speaker 8>hits the chest right that it doesn't hurt their performer

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<v Speaker 8>they're working with, but it makes that sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I just it feels good to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why, like I you're familiar with Julia right

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<v Speaker 3>from WWE. She's famous for her head butts right at

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<v Speaker 3>her head butts, like she literally just head butts and

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<v Speaker 3>there you know, she had butts them all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Job Boxley getting forked by Hagman added page.

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<v Speaker 3>She's standing there and her opponent is as bleeding profusely

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<v Speaker 3>from the forehead of the nose. Is Julia has a

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<v Speaker 3>short temper. And if you get a receipt from Julia,

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna get a receipt from Julia. And I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for that to happen at w W because people are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna lose their minds when she got no no, not

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<v Speaker 3>with her head butts her head. Go look at Julia,

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<v Speaker 3>Go look at just probably there's a video that says,

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<v Speaker 3>Julia has Julia's head butts, and just go watch her.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see how she does it in retaliation to

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<v Speaker 3>somebody to maybe hit her a little bit too hard

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<v Speaker 3>or at a wrong spot like in the throat or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and she had to butch them in their Next thing

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01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:54.920
<v Speaker 3>you see is the whole person's face is just erupted.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a crimson mask, you know, because Julia doesn't give

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<v Speaker 3>a shit, you know, So that's something to keep in mind. There,

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else have a potporie? All right, then, so I

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<v Speaker 3>guess we'll end the show for tonight. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 3>later on tonight on the UH Wrestling Hub discord. I

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<v Speaker 3>almost forgot what our discord was named for, Ollie Talk.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right after aw Dynamite. We start the show right

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<v Speaker 3>after aw Dynamite, and just come on up and have

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<v Speaker 3>some fun and review aw Dynamite with us, because hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this card, I mean, not only we have John Moxley

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<v Speaker 3>and Hangman Adam Page, We've got Tony Storm and Alex

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01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Windsa against Athena and Billy Starks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be a war.

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<v Speaker 3>And more so, Young Box of the Outrunners got some

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<v Speaker 3>pretty interesting stuff going on. So join us for all

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<v Speaker 3>we talk right after Dynamite. So for the aw fan

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<v Speaker 3>on podcast team, this is Kelson. Good night everybody, Later

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<v Speaker 3>Tators than Guys.
