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Speaker 3: In March of two thy and twenty one, Barry and
Speaker 3: I were a part of a filming expedition in the
Speaker 3: Florida Everglades. I had before we went down there, I
Speaker 3: had been studying the topographical maps and pinpointing areas that
Speaker 3: I wanted to check. There is a lady by the
Speaker 3: name of Stevie b that lives two hours from there,
Speaker 3: so I was given her coordinates to go to and
Speaker 3: look to do pre scouting for us before we arrived.
Speaker 3: When she got to one of the areas that I
Speaker 3: had pinpointed, it was gated off, but it was originally
Speaker 3: set up as a campground. You had to hike about
Speaker 3: four tenths of a mile in and it opened up
Speaker 3: into a beautiful pasture that had palm trees fifty foot tall.
Speaker 3: It was set up with a couple of provinions bathrooms,
Speaker 3: and it was new. It even had like a small
Speaker 3: amphitheater in there. She walked down there and saw it,
Speaker 3: and this place is looking new. It was just like
Speaker 3: they built it and had it open for a short
Speaker 3: time and then for some reason unknown reason they put
Speaker 3: a chain across the drive to be able to get
Speaker 3: in there. She goes to walk back to her truck
Speaker 3: where she had to park out by a gravel road
Speaker 3: to hike in there, and there's two cars of wildlife
Speaker 3: officers there asking her what she's doing in the area.
Speaker 3: She's not authorized to walk back there, and that she
Speaker 3: needs to get in her truck and leave. It just
Speaker 3: seemed very suspicious. So when Barry and I got down
Speaker 3: to the one sixty eight Hours Expedition, that was one
Speaker 3: of the places that we went to, and we went
Speaker 3: at night and we be parked, and what we thought
Speaker 3: that what we would do is going there and just
Speaker 3: act like campers. And so we had packed in some
Speaker 3: hot dogs and buns and potato chips, and we thought
Speaker 3: we'd just go to the pavillion and sat there and
Speaker 3: cook those dogs and just act like normal people. We
Speaker 3: came in with thermals. We had several different people that
Speaker 3: were in charge of taking turns and keeping a thermal
Speaker 3: going on at the same time. And there were two
Speaker 3: times that Bradley Hatcher had spotted something given a heat signature,
Speaker 3: and then he would move and check our flanks to
Speaker 3: make sure nothing was coming up on our flanks, and
Speaker 3: he would go back and look at that heat signature
Speaker 3: and it would be gone. And then we noticed lights
Speaker 3: in the woods and all let Berry Browning take it
Speaker 3: from here.
Speaker 4: When we noticed the lights, I mean, honestly, I'd never
Speaker 4: seen any kind of orb or you know, you kind of.
Speaker 2: Try to talk yourself out that that's what it is.
Speaker 4: But it was just so obvious, and they wouldn't I'm
Speaker 4: gonna tell you about, you know, over a process of ice.
Speaker 4: They were there when we would we would get there,
Speaker 4: and they would be there when we would leave, and
Speaker 4: we would literally just get tired and have to go.
Speaker 4: But the first night, we tried to get them on
Speaker 4: every piece of equipment we had. I don't think we
Speaker 4: got them on the first night, do we We tried,
Speaker 4: and we maybe got the little snippets of it, and
Speaker 4: that was about it. We eventually got them on a
Speaker 4: night vision binoculars, and I think Stevie b also got
Speaker 4: them on that scout that fleer. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think the best way to describe me.
Speaker 4: It's it's so obvious that that's what you know. We're
Speaker 4: out in the middle of nowhere there's one road possibly
Speaker 4: that anything could come down. It's a dirt road that
Speaker 4: we would be able to hear anything come down, and
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes there was one light. It seemed like
Speaker 4: as a week went on, I think that's when we
Speaker 4: kind of started seeing two and three lights out there.
Speaker 4: We would go toward the lights. They would actually go
Speaker 4: back into the woods. And that was done on numerous nights.
Speaker 4: And you also, and another thing, you got three or
Speaker 4: four people that go every night over probably four or
Speaker 4: five night period, and then we would carry two, three
Speaker 4: four new people every night, so every night everybody was
Speaker 4: seeing it, and new people were seeing it.
Speaker 2: The first time. They really moved a bunch at one time.
Speaker 4: They probably I don't know, one hundred yards in front
Speaker 4: of us of the woodline that starts.
Speaker 2: It just goes up the woodline and just kind of disappears.
Speaker 4: But we had already noticed two before that, and it's
Speaker 4: like that one disappears, you look back to where it
Speaker 4: started from, and I guess it's the one from before.
Speaker 2: I mean, one would would be back there.
Speaker 4: It went down a woodline to our right and actually
Speaker 4: jumped the road that we walked in on and then
Speaker 4: went down the woodline behind us UH at one point
Speaker 4: in time. That's how much it would move. There was
Speaker 4: a time when we were asking it to do stuff
Speaker 4: and I forget why we didn't get to do it
Speaker 4: a third time, but the two times that we asked
Speaker 4: it to do something, it did what we asked. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was just, yeah, it was just weird, very very odd.
Speaker 4: I mean I'd never seen anything.
Speaker 1: You were asking the orbs to do something? Is that
Speaker 1: what you were saying?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember. Yeah, And see that's it's been
Speaker 4: so long, which.
Speaker 1: Really made when I can ask some questions.
Speaker 4: Anytime Kerrie wouldn't I mean, wouldn't. It's like he wouldn't
Speaker 4: be you know, we'd go back and get him again.
Speaker 4: On D I think we ended up with I don't
Speaker 4: know how much flair put if. I think we ended
Speaker 4: up with around twenty seven or thirty minutes on the
Speaker 4: UH binoculars. But it's like he couldn't every night I would,
Speaker 4: you know, I would be amped up and animated about it.
Speaker 4: Now and I and I say this for Mark kind
Speaker 4: of let me run with trying to film it and
Speaker 4: do that stuff. And and Mark was constantly scant, you know,
Speaker 4: having making sure nothing was coming up from behind uh
Speaker 4: behind us, which you know, we got that we're looking
Speaker 4: at orbs and stuff, and we're also at times we're
Speaker 4: hearing stuff in the woods. Another another thing that happened
Speaker 4: as far as the orbs were concerned. But this is
Speaker 4: also an area that they set up a fake camp.
Speaker 4: It had a tent, I think it had. It had
Speaker 4: some audio recordings that they would play. I know one
Speaker 4: one was a baby crying and maybe the only one,
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: But they went and set up a little tent, you know,
Speaker 2: because this area is huge.
Speaker 4: M hm. So I had been talking to Zaski about
Speaker 4: the or you know, he's and uh, I'll I'm gonna
Speaker 4: admit this up for about asking. I was the one
Speaker 4: that actually made a comment one time before it all started.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if mars Aski played
Speaker 4: as well with others. And I didn't mean that as
Speaker 4: a put down towards him, but I was serious. I
Speaker 4: just didn't know how I was gonna go along with
Speaker 4: and I got I get down there, and I know
Speaker 4: he takes some flat from some people, but I get
Speaker 4: down there, and that guy was boss of the wall.
Speaker 4: The whole twenty four to seven. He told us where
Speaker 4: we were gonna see him eventually see him in the
Speaker 4: woodline where we dig get some photos. You know, later
Speaker 4: on I was really surprised at by Marzaski. But we're
Speaker 4: out trying to and I'm trying to show him and
Speaker 4: we're standing right where the oars you know it. Of
Speaker 4: course it's going and it's moving, but it had been
Speaker 4: right in the spot where or right above the spot
Speaker 4: we're standing in. We're looking for footprints for Bigfoot, because
Speaker 4: Mark happened to notice that the soul had a lot
Speaker 4: different consistency there.
Speaker 2: It was more dirt than sand.
Speaker 4: And by the same time, something gets our attention in
Speaker 4: front of us, and I don't think it was no
Speaker 4: more twenty twenty five feet, but with a whole lot
Speaker 4: of foliage in front of us. In between us and it,
Speaker 4: there's just a there's a silhouette standing there. And by
Speaker 4: the time I noticed that he starts pointing at it.
Speaker 4: We had nothing, you know, we think we had we
Speaker 4: I don't have anything. We nothing to film with because
Speaker 4: we weren't, you know, even though we're down there to
Speaker 4: film a bunch at that point in time, we weren't
Speaker 4: really filming. I was just showing him, never dreaming anything.
Speaker 2: What happen like that?
Speaker 4: But uh, in the same exact spot where the world
Speaker 4: was traveling over, we both see a big foot. He
Speaker 4: ends up going around to our left trying to get
Speaker 4: to it. I think he broke the stick. He made
Speaker 4: it some kind of it was some kind of noise.
Speaker 4: My eyes looked that way and looked and then looked
Speaker 4: right back and it was gone. And I mean I
Speaker 4: told him I thought it. You know, I just able
Speaker 4: to hit the ground, because that's all thing could have done.
Speaker 4: I mean, it didn't disappear. I don't believe that. I
Speaker 4: think it just went straight to the ground, but that
Speaker 4: that sighting happened in the exact same place that we're
Speaker 4: at back at that same night.
Speaker 2: It's like the night before I'm filming oars.
Speaker 4: The next day I see bigfoot, and then that same
Speaker 4: night I say it, we're back filming orders again in
Speaker 4: that area. I mean it's a I mean, I guess
Speaker 4: you call it active, whatever whatever phrase you want to use.
Speaker 2: That it's an area that I mean, it's it is
Speaker 2: crazy the stuff that we saw up in there. But yes,
Speaker 2: back on the orbs and the questions, Christopher.
Speaker 4: Noel, I think it was was getting me to ask
Speaker 4: you questions, and it literally did. And I forget why
Speaker 4: we didn't get to a third, but we didn't ask
Speaker 4: it really enough to just for us to really believe
Speaker 4: wholeheartedly that that it was actually obeying. But it did.
Speaker 4: It did it twice in a row enough to make
Speaker 4: us wonder.
Speaker 3: I wasn't standing there when they went to asked the questions.
Speaker 3: The area we were in where it opens up, you
Speaker 3: had woods all the way around you three hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty degrees, and so I was really working with Bradley
Speaker 3: Hatcher that we need to keep our flanks cover because
Speaker 3: we were hearing things in the woodline and close to us,
Speaker 3: and our little base camp was right there at that previlon.
Speaker 3: So but one thing that Barry noticed there appeared to
Speaker 3: be a bright star right up above us, and it
Speaker 3: was really bright, and nobody noticed it to Barry pointed
Speaker 3: it out. He says, I want you to look up
Speaker 3: there at at that bright light up there, because there's
Speaker 3: just something that's not right about it. So we're all
Speaker 3: standing there looking up at this light, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, the light starts moving out of nowhere, and
Speaker 3: it starts changing colors, and it just starts slowly moving away.
Speaker 3: I remember Barry pointing up and going, I think that
Speaker 3: one up above of us is telling those three orbs
Speaker 3: in the woods.
Speaker 2: What to do.
Speaker 3: And I got chill bumps rent up and down me.
Speaker 3: There wasn't no running for the trucks. We were four
Speaker 3: tenths of a mile away from where the trucks were.
Speaker 3: We would have never made it back. But what was
Speaker 3: weird is every time we went back at night, we
Speaker 3: saw the orbs. And we were even taking new people
Speaker 3: with us so that they could see these orbs.
Speaker 1: And everybody was seeing them.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're getting everybody. It's just like Barry said.
Speaker 4: I noticed that people were saying that because I would
Speaker 4: get back, I would be so pumped about it, and
Speaker 4: I get excited and I'm talking, you know, faster than
Speaker 4: a lot of folks who even listen, and you know,
Speaker 4: really exaggerated about it. Uh, And I think, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't know cured, but I don't think Carey believe me. Well,
Speaker 4: I take it back, he believed me. He just he
Speaker 4: had to have difit proof. But yes, it was Ari.
Speaker 4: Why didn't he go sa man just.
Speaker 2: So much going on, I mean literally so much.
Speaker 3: You know, you had two different teams that were out,
Speaker 3: You had a base camp there was fifteen to eighteen people,
Speaker 3: and he was pretty much in charge of all productions
Speaker 3: and was running everything from base camp. Now care you
Speaker 3: did go out a couple of times he went out
Speaker 3: with a group of us. Barry was with us on
Speaker 3: that And this is what's strange. I mean, this place
Speaker 3: is ten miles back off any type of road. So
Speaker 3: we get way back there, we parked the trucks, we
Speaker 3: get out, we put on all of our surveillance equipment
Speaker 3: and get the cameras and getting ready to go in
Speaker 3: and check this area out that looks good on the maps.
Speaker 3: We get in there, we hiked about fifteen minutes, and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, Barry got sick physically stomach tight,
Speaker 3: being sick. And it was almost immediately another lady that
Speaker 3: was with us len same thing happened to her. Those
Speaker 3: were the only two people that were affected. But it
Speaker 3: was just really odd. Everybody was feeling fine going in
Speaker 3: and then just at almost the same time, within a
Speaker 3: minute apart, those two get physically sick.
Speaker 1: How long did y'all stay sick, Barry just for a
Speaker 1: minute or two.
Speaker 4: No, I mean no, I mean we got back and
Speaker 4: I had I mean, in all honesty, I was straight
Speaker 4: to the bathroom and it was it was a hour,
Speaker 4: a couple hours.
Speaker 2: I didn't notice it so much after that, So could.
Speaker 1: I ask some questions? Oh yeah, so you may have said,
Speaker 1: what color were they?
Speaker 2: The orb is a bluish white color.
Speaker 3: But they would they would change colors a little bit.
Speaker 2: One of the sky blinks different colors.
Speaker 4: One thing I probably say about that is I've been
Speaker 4: watching those lights, and for I noticed them, honest the goodness,
Speaker 4: I noticed them out big footing with people. This when
Speaker 4: I first noticed them, I got I recorded them, I
Speaker 4: took pictures of them. I was told when I say this,
Speaker 4: I was told by an individual that supposedly knew or
Speaker 4: or had been messed with by the government for stuff
Speaker 4: that he had released.
Speaker 2: And I just asked about it on the pocket. Had
Speaker 2: got to know me from anybody?
Speaker 4: Asked some about on the podcast, said you ever see
Speaker 4: lights in the sky that orbit like a star. They
Speaker 4: don't so much necessarily zoom.
Speaker 2: Across the sky. I said, they'll actually move.
Speaker 4: A little bit while they're at or everything, you know,
Speaker 4: just like a normal star, so they kind of they'll
Speaker 4: kind of blend in except for the fact that they
Speaker 4: blink different color lights. Everybody's probably like, well, how does
Speaker 4: everybody everybody else see it?
Speaker 2: Nobody?
Speaker 4: I mean I've showed it to a lot of folks
Speaker 4: that honestly, it mystified me that when they just kind
Speaker 4: of downplayed it.
Speaker 2: And walked off.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, warps in the woods, how
Speaker 1: big would you say? The lights were like big as
Speaker 1: a basketball or.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say basketball, but you know we're at
Speaker 4: a distance from it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, seemed to light up the area
Speaker 1: around them, like it was shining to the ground.
Speaker 4: I remember when it would hide behind the trees and
Speaker 4: I would find it, and I would say, I'm finding
Speaker 4: it because it's glowing back.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: You could it would get behind the tree and you
Speaker 4: could see the trees behind it because of it's like
Speaker 4: so that and that's how I was finding it, because
Speaker 4: it would move or you would move and you just
Speaker 4: get a slightly different angle and you could. I mean,
Speaker 4: I did it to myself. I barely moved, didn't realize
Speaker 4: I moved, and bought myself from seeing it thinking that,
Speaker 4: and now I'm thinking that disappeared. You know, you moved,
Speaker 4: you know, back the other direction and then you catch
Speaker 4: it the last night.
Speaker 2: Martin didn't see this the last night.
Speaker 4: And I'll give Christopher Noel credit this for pushing the
Speaker 4: envelope on the night that we had nobody to watch
Speaker 4: the back kind of nerve wracking. But we went towards,
Speaker 4: you know, towards the lights last night. We're gonna be
Speaker 4: able to do it whatever. We would go towards them.
Speaker 4: And that light looked like and I know this is
Speaker 4: gonna sound crazy, I'm just telling you what it looked like.
Speaker 4: And if people saw the footage that were there, they
Speaker 4: said they saw the same thing. That thing looked like
Speaker 4: it backed up into a little rectangle made of limbs
Speaker 4: with leaves on it, you know, vegetation, and just eased
Speaker 4: up a little bit. And then it's almost like it
Speaker 4: just sat just almost like it was parking itself.
Speaker 2: On a charger for you know, a phone or something like,
Speaker 2: you know, similar to that.
Speaker 4: It was so weird, it I mean, but you know it,
Speaker 4: and I just I don't think we went a certain
Speaker 4: ways to it, but I think we got all got
Speaker 4: to a point of you know, once it got part
Speaker 4: and was just sitting there. You know, how much closer
Speaker 4: do you get to it with? You know, I'll be honestly,
Speaker 4: and I've done it with bigfooting in areas that I
Speaker 4: like to look at where I live. I'm big on
Speaker 4: trying to be respectful in their areas. It's like I
Speaker 4: don't over recording areas.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I do certain things sometimes would probably call crazy, but
Speaker 4: I mean I will. I'll talk to them while i'm
Speaker 4: you know, while I'm there, and I think it works.
Speaker 1: What gave you the idea to talk to these things
Speaker 1: and ask them to move? And where did that come from?
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like you have experience with this before.
Speaker 1: I would have never I would have just sat there
Speaker 1: with my mouth hanging open.
Speaker 4: I honestly think that was more of just on the cuff,
Speaker 4: two or three of us going back and forth.
Speaker 1: And you verbally said go left, go right.
Speaker 4: I forget exactly, you know, I forget exactly what I
Speaker 4: asked it, but yeah, I mean it it would be something.
Speaker 4: I know when we asked him to blink, I think
Speaker 4: I was asking it to you know, because it was
Speaker 4: pulse like at times, or and it may I may
Speaker 4: have asked you to blink.
Speaker 2: I may have asked you to do something else.
Speaker 4: But I mean because I know Chris Christopher Noel was
Speaker 4: just besides himself when it when it actually did it.
Speaker 4: And I don't know how the lights and the skies,
Speaker 4: I've seen them, y'all. I'm gonna go home from here
Speaker 4: and and I promise one y'all call me and I'll
Speaker 4: go get you two or three of the lights and
Speaker 4: the skies right above my damn house.
Speaker 2: They're there.
Speaker 4: Anybody can see them, I think sometimes I don't know.
Speaker 1: So you've seen it before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I videoed them in the last week or two.
Speaker 4: The ones in the sky, yeah, I ain't show you
Speaker 4: on my phone, butting around not anything not. And that's
Speaker 4: why I caught like lights to you know, in the
Speaker 4: sky orb I'm probably I'm referring to, you know, something
Speaker 4: kind of closer to the ground.
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm sure it's a lot smaller. You don't really know.
Speaker 4: But of course the stuff in the sky has got
Speaker 4: to be a greater, much greater distance away than the
Speaker 4: orb is.
Speaker 1: But well, I know y'all got a lot of footage
Speaker 1: of the woods, you know, looking for the skunk ape.
Speaker 1: Dang gum man, this is the story. Did it not
Speaker 1: make you kind of go forget this bigfoot stuff, that
Speaker 1: I'm really seeing something here? I mean, it would me,
Speaker 1: oh but for years ago anything y'all walk in the
Speaker 1: woods and see all these orbs and strange things going on,
Speaker 1: but that would consume me.
Speaker 3: We we all we felt like we were having bigfoot
Speaker 3: activity there at the same time because we were capturing
Speaker 3: images thermal images in the wood right at the woodlight,
Speaker 3: right where it's and and then you would move and
Speaker 3: go back to look at it and it'd be gone.
Speaker 3: But getting back to the orbs, one thing that was
Speaker 3: really interesting was we had about thirty minutes of night
Speaker 3: vision footage of it, and so I started going through
Speaker 3: that footage and one thing that we didn't notice with
Speaker 3: the naked eyes at night, we would see it changed colors,
Speaker 3: but the night vision camera was able to pull out
Speaker 3: more detail. And it looks like a ball that's swirling,
Speaker 3: like it's got swirls in it and it's and it's
Speaker 3: just swirling around.
Speaker 4: And when you video, when you video the lights in
Speaker 4: the sky and that maybe hides them together when you video,
Speaker 4: they don't look like they're swirling when you're looking at them,
Speaker 4: but when you look at the video you took, they
Speaker 4: looked they look like they're doing it certain type of
Speaker 4: swirling and then maybe high again.
Speaker 2: I really don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like when you shine a when you pouring a
Speaker 1: camera at a computer screen at blinks. Yeah, because the
Speaker 1: computer screen is flicking up images like a camera does
Speaker 1: at twenty four frames per second or whatever, and when
Speaker 1: you put a camera on it, it's taking images at
Speaker 1: twenty four frames per second and they're not SYNCD, and
Speaker 1: that's why you can see the stuff swirling.
Speaker 3: But but the thing about it is it was a
Speaker 3: totally it's a totally different look.
Speaker 2: It's gonna y'all gonna say, you know, how could it
Speaker 2: not be? But I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not for sure it's gonna be featured, so to speak,
Speaker 4: in the one sixty eight. I don't think. I'm kind
Speaker 4: of kind I'm kind of thinking that it may. It's
Speaker 4: probably gona get mentioned and briefly shown, and but being
Speaker 4: that it's actually not what we were so to speak,
Speaker 4: down there to look for, maybe it won't make it.
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't know that for sure. I haven't
Speaker 2: asked here.
Speaker 4: I talked to carry a text uh and messengers the
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, I haven't. I didn't been asking
Speaker 4: about it. So it's nothing that he said. It's just
Speaker 4: I got I don't know. That's just the feeling that here,
Speaker 4: and that's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, is anybody else here blown away by them? Barry?
Speaker 1: It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Like the sky.
Speaker 2: You said they ordered it like like stars.
Speaker 1: I mean, how far up do you think they were? Maybe?
Speaker 2: I guess what do you think? I don't think it
Speaker 2: was as far way as a star.
Speaker 4: But you know how if you have a lot of
Speaker 4: UFO footage, you know they'll venture go back and show
Speaker 4: you how stuff is moving faster or slower, and it's
Speaker 4: closer or further away than they lead you to believe.
Speaker 4: When they of course the different size than the star.
Speaker 4: But I think but they're just far enough out to
Speaker 4: where they did they just kind of blend in with stars.
Speaker 2: I remember looking at the sky.
Speaker 4: I mean I was a kid, I mean I've always
Speaker 4: been a night I can remember walking the neighborhood at
Speaker 4: night and doing nothing but just we had nothing, nothing
Speaker 4: else to do with looking at the stars, and there
Speaker 4: was nothing like this in the sky when I was kid,
Speaker 4: We're gonna die. At least we got the old story
Speaker 4: out talking. Yeah, I've been seeing the lights in this guy.
Speaker 4: Like I said, for I really started, you know, I
Speaker 4: did the bigfoot thing, pitting back and learning a lot
Speaker 4: to listen to everything I could get my hands on,
Speaker 4: and then maybe five years ago, started really getting into
Speaker 4: doing it out, going out and doing it and that,
Speaker 4: and honestly, it would be nice that you you you
Speaker 4: literally spending all night trying to, you know, get a
Speaker 4: bigfoot to scream back at you, and you nothing happens,
Speaker 4: and sooner or later I just noticed them and I
Speaker 4: kept watching for him.
Speaker 2: I think, honestly, I don't.
Speaker 4: Think they're just over where I was at, or just
Speaker 4: over the floor or where I live, or just over floor.
Speaker 2: And I think they're all over everywhere. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've literally been riding down the road looking
Speaker 4: at one and it was and I call it acting
Speaker 4: up is what I would refer to it to a
Speaker 4: dance girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I'll say that thing acting up.
Speaker 4: And I would literally be looking at other cars like,
Speaker 4: how do y'all not see that? I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: it would just be barely, you know, not that far
Speaker 4: above the horizon at certain times, so obvious to me.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if people just don't look. I
Speaker 2: don't have good eyesight.
Speaker 4: I mean I can hear it, but I do not
Speaker 4: have good I mean, I wear contacts, and most time
Speaker 4: I'm fighting with them because they're dry.