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Speaker 2: All right, let's get out to the hotline.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in Brian Logan below the past breakup being to

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talk some BYU Cougar Football was that below.

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Speaker 4: I'm uh, I don't know, man, I'm confused. He's supposed

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to go be twenty minutes ago. I'm gonna be here

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Texas taking run. I don't know what's going on, but

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let's get to it. Let's get to it, let's look

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let into it. Hey, Hey, you can asked me questions.

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I'm answering, and then I hear I hear program in

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my ear and I'm like, what are we doing right now?

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We're hey, Hey, I'm hungry I didn't delayed. I told

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my I told my golfriend number two like like they

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come in fifteen minutes. You know what I'm saying. Like anyway,

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it's always good to hear your voice. Man, It's always

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a blessing. I love you and I would do almost

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anything for you. And when I mean almost, I mean

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I probably want to give with my kids for you, Britt,

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anything else.

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Speaker 3: I would do that love and appreciate you below below. Hey,

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this season, it's been a special one. Twenty twenty five

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has been special. It's an eleven and two season. Now,

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we've had many eleven and two seasons. Well not that day,

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you know, but we've had double digit win seasons. You've

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had You've been a part of that. An eleven and

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two season in two thousand and nine. I was a

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part of a couple in six oh seven. There's been

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the ninety six season was a tremendous season, fourteen and one,

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two thousand and one, there was a twelve win season.

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Speaker 2: Look, I feel like this is one of the best seasons.

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Speaker 3: In BA football history because of the strength of schedule,

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and you made it to a big twelve championship game.

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Speaker 2: How do you see it?

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Speaker 3: How magical. How special was this season for the fans,

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for the media, for the players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think the fact that we went

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to a championship game, a conference championship game, and like

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a power for conference championship game is what makes it special.

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The other seasons, you know, some of those I can't,

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I can't relate to. I was like three. I know,

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I know you like tidy, but I was too I

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was too young. I was too young to be aware.

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But I think I think the difference of if you

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were to remove that the conference championship this year, I

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think that the talent that b YU currently has on

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the roster versus the talent that they played and defeated,

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and how they won games as far as complete blowouts,

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as far as coming back and being on the road

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and certain situations that were really critical in each you know,

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at certain points of the season. I think that's what

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makes it really special. You know, Uncle Uncle Be who

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I love and adore more than anything. When I'm with

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him on our pregame, post game or whenever you're doing

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shows on by U TV, you know, I really get

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a lot of insights and you know, he put from

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from him and when he was, you know, when he

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played and that eighty four championship team. And what's interesting

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is they didn't know that they want that they won

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a championship game until it was over, right, So there

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was a different type of voting system and structure back

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then and and this season and where we're at right

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now in the modern day is like you win and

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you're in, or if if if you win and and

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this team loses, then you're in. So there's a lot

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more I think pressure on these.

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Speaker 5: Teams nowadays when heading into certain games based off of

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certain situations, and I think that brings so much more excitement,

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right like, like there's so much more anticipation and so

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much more awareness and so much more I think fans

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Speaker 4: And I think when you when you think about all

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those things I just said versus you know, figuring it

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out if you're if you're the conference championship at the

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last game, I think it carries a little bit more weight,

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you know. And that's just that's just my opinion. I'm

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not taking anything away from from those teams or whatnot,

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but I think I think it's supperate to win in

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the modern era. That is, you know, in previous eras,

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especially with especially the areas like you and I.

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Speaker 2: Planed it, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: It's a tougher schedule back to back to back, but

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they also have more resources. They also recruit on have depth,

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a little bit more depth in what we had, et cetera.

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So you take it all into account. You know that

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two thousand and nine season was a special one. There's

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no doubt. You have one of the best victories in

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BWA football history number three Oklahoma at Cowboys Stadium in Orlington.

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BA wasn't able to revive really of that magic in

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the Big Twelve Championship unfortunately, but that was a great win.

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You lost to Florida State, lost to TCU, but then

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you finish off the season with a win over number

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twenty two Utah in ot That was a great win

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at Lavelle Edwards. And then you knocked off number sixteen

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team in the country, Oregon State in the Vegas Ball

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was at that game.

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Speaker 2: It was a great game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't really count that win against Oklahoma anymore

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like special. It's not. I mean, in the moment, okay, okay,

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I said that was that came across that. Let me

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take a step back in the moments at that time,

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it was amazing. I can't thank you know, baby Jesus

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enough for putting me in that situation and allowing me

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to be a part of that, uh and a part

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of you know, this program at that at that time,

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I loved when we landed, how there was man so

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many people waiting for us on the tarmac and in

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the airport.

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Speaker 6: I loved the videos that I've seen, and yes, this

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is the beginning of videos on phones, but I love.

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Speaker 4: Seeing how you know, there there were students and they

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were like rushing and celebrating in in intersections you know,

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by the school. I loved, I loved, I love seeing

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all that, and so it was it was a great

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moment moment like for anybody that was involved, from athletes

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to fans, to staff, et cetera, alumni, et cetera. But

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at the end of the day, they finished like eighty five,

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you know, so so to us it's like, well, how

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to me? It' second? Well, how good were thing?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 4: And this goes into a deeper conversation of what we're

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dealing with right now. You know, all these teams that

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are ranked preseason, and then we go through the season,

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and a lot of them aren't ranked, a lot of

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them aren't as good as we thought they were. And

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then you have other teams that were never ranked and

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weren't part of the discussion, and then towards the end

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they are. So yeah, it was it was good. It

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was a great win. I loved the environment. And man,

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that was my first game as a D one athlete,

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coming from a junior college and to have my first

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game be in a professional and a pro NFL stadium.

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I mean, I couldn't ask for anything, and it's a

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better storyline. But you know, at the very end of

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the day, I think we can talk about this too

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with like Miami, right, I don't think when b YU

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beat Miami, I don't even know if they finished or

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maybe they were the only ones you know that finished

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that we're in the top you know, ten or top five.

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I mean that's something that that you know, you guys

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get are great great Gregor Bell when it comes to

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teams that were ranked in the beginning of the season

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and or the highest teams that were ranked at b

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YU won in its history, and where did they finish,

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because I think we have to take that into consideration,

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which obviously the college football Playoffs is doing that right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Miami in nineteen ninety only had two losses.

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Just so you know. They lost to b Yu, who's

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a good team that year.

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Speaker 3: Obviously in nineteen ninety and they lost to number six

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Notre Dame. By they finished ranked.

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Speaker 2: I believe it looks like number three in the nation.

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Speaker 4: They they that's the best way they they they ended up.

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Speaker 3: Number three in the nation because they had well, they

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had two losses. They ended up beating number three Texas

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in the Cotton Bowl that year and they destroyed them

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forty six to three in fact, So that's the best

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way remember by you. In nineteen ninety they they beat

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my they beat Miami. They lost the Oregon number. I

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want to say, I don't know if Oregon was ranked

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at that time. They ended up losing to Hawaii late

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in the season, that was at Hawaii, and then they

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lost to Texas A and M in.

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Speaker 2: The bowl game.

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Speaker 3: Uh so they started hot, they didn't end so so

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well at the end of the season. They got the

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pride cycle. They didn't stay humble, they didn't.

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Speaker 4: Stay hungry, or maybe they had injuries.

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Speaker 3: In the.

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Speaker 4: Sea. I think I just think that, you know, to

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answer your question, you know, more more directly, if we're

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if we're using the same standards now and we're going

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off with the standards and the criteria of the College

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Football Playoff Committee, which is definitely flawed and there's definitely

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a conspiracy there as a side note, but if we're

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using that those metrics and that criteria, you have to

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take into account where the team finished, you know, not

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just where they're ranked when you beat them, And from

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what you just said, I would say I would say

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that that's probably the best win in BYU history now

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at the moments, at the moment, you know, I think

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we can have an argument that when when BYU played

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them in in the nineties versus the moment of when

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we played them, you know, in two thousand and nine

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Oklahoma in two thousand and nine. For sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's been an awesome season. It's been a

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magical season, no doubt about it. What were your preseason

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expectations and how many wins did they get?

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Speaker 2: Get over that preseason expectation?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean the goal that I set for

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these guys was just make it to a bowl game.

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And I've been you know, two thousand and ten, it

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was my senior year and we started winning. For we

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made history in a negative way, and we were scrapping

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and clawing just to get the seniors to a bowl game,

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to to to finish the season off strong. Yes, for

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you know, the freshmen and for recruiting and all the

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stuff that that that comes with with wins and losses.

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But our sole focused at that point was to get

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to make sure the seniors, like, let's do it for

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the seniors. The seniors came on board as freshman's and

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they have the same blood, sweat and tears and dedication

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and uh, you know that that you guys have right now,

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and so it's it's it's it's on us to to

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you know, make sure that they that they end their careers,

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you know, right, because because the latter years that they

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went through everything and that they were part of the program,

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they sent the seniors off right, and that you know,

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big shout out to Matt Marshall. He's the one that

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gave that gave that speech. So I appreciate him for that.

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And that was my mindset was for this year. I

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mean this year especially after after well prior to Jake,

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I was like, Man, if we don't go to a

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conference championship game, I'm quitting by u TV being better

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than that called me. I'm not talking to nobody. It's

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not doing no media nothing. I hate this team. H

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That was my expectations. Then then when Jake left, I

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was like, okay, Fellows, let's just make it to a

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bowl game. And that was my expectations going in. And

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so as the season started to unfold, I really realized

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that Jake wasn't the most important piece of this team

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and specifically the offense. And I think he has to

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give a lot of credit to obviously Bear and him

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being able to perform at the level that he he

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he did as a true freshman, but even more so,

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you got to give credit to a Rod and for

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for him to be able to figure out what his

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analyzed his situation, analyze the pieces that he as and

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to be able to put a game plan in for

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the offense week in and week out, to put them

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in in positions to be successful and to execute and

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and and he did that. So you know, I love

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Colone to death and and I'm you know, happy and

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grateful and that he won Coach of the Year for

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the Big twelve. But I think it should be a

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Rod even though you know he's he's the offensive court,

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and I think it should be a Rod for for

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everything that he's had to go through.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's talk about that for a moment here.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of haters out there that they' that

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don't think a Rod is a good offense corner. They

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want to go, they want to part ways with him,

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they want to get rid of them. Like, what's your reaction,

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what's your rebuttal to those haters that just don't think

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a Rod put together a good enough offense?

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Speaker 2: Uh? This year and then and in prior years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it reminds me of of some of my ex girlfriends,

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Like you know, I, you know, like there's a million

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things that I do right, and then as soon as

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there's one thing that I do wrong, that's not that's

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not even on the level of being like being able

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to like like being able to break up with somebody

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break up with me is like, oh, I'm sorry, like

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I forgot to tell you I was going to be

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fifteen minutes late, Like my bad, But what about the

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zillion other things I've done right? I feel like it's

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like that you know, it's it's it's oh, I'm sorry,

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I'm sorry, I'm hey, this is a little therapy for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But but but but think about that, like like okay,

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being being real, being real, right, and really comparing the

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analogy analogies. When you're so good at something and you

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constantly hit that mark, it's expected that you're going to

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continue to hit that mark. And so when you do

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one thing wrong, when you call a bad play or

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you call a bad game, all that, like that, because

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you didn't hit that mark, it's so below and because

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because you were hitting that mark at such a consistent level,

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that gap of not hitting that mark at one time

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compared to the consistency of greatness, it's so drastic that

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that that their brains turned to, oh my gosh, we

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have to fire because they're not used to it, right,

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They're not used to they're not used to that that

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low of a performance. And I think fans and analysts

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we have to understand that, and especially with with with

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b YU and the church and the Gospel, we have

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to understand that nobody's perfect. And you know, the grass

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is not greener on the other side. It's not, it's

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just that's just a simple fact that in life. And

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so I think when you when you look at the

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macro perspective, and you and you look at the full

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body of war from when a Rod came on board

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to where he's at now. The number one thing as

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fans that we want to that that we should judge

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him off is not a bad game or a play call.

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It's it's it's growth. Now, I think that's that's in

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everything in our lives, right in every area of our

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lives and especially relationships and whatnot. It's it's growth. And

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you look at when he stepped on the campus, all

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the way until now this very moment that you and

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I are talking, Man, the growth is there. Look at

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the stats, look at the data. You could be extremely

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objective when you when you go that route and not subjective.

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The subjective comes when it's because our feelings are hurt,

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because we're mad, you know, maybe somebody put a little

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money on something, you know what I mean. Like, there's

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a lot of different variables of why we get mad

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from a subjective standpoint, but being objective and looking at

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the data and looking at how many quarterbacks he's developed

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and he's sent to the league, and how many recruits

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that he's he's brought on and in the games that

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he's won. I mean, come on, man, look at the

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last couple of years. These guys only lost like what

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three games? Four games? Like gid I get out of

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here with that.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy. Man, A Rod deserves his flowers. He's

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a he's a Broils Awards semi finalist. He may be

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a finalist for all I know. I haven't updated, I

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haven't take taking a look at it recently, but give

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the man as flowers.

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Speaker 2: Man, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: There has never been an offensive coordinator ever at b

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YU that has been heralded that has been liked at

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at at b a U. It's the most it's more

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difficult than being the head coach at b YU, I

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think is the o C.

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Speaker 2: Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's why and that's why I said, and

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that's why that's I said, respectfully, a Rox, you get

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the get the get the coach of the year for

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the big conference. I know I know that shing it happened,

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but you like are literally making my point. You know

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when when I when I said that, you know what

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I mean?

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Speaker 2: You know, they bring up Doug Sculville from like the seventies.

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Come on, now, you know.

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Speaker 4: That's the that's the first time I heard that.

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Speaker 3: Next, no ask ask uncle be about Doug Scolvi Like this,

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text uncle bib, Hey, who's the greatest offensive coordinator b

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A football history? And and he's probably gonna he may

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he may say Doug Sclville. I think he may say

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Doug s Goville. Everyone says it. He's only there for

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four years, bro, four years and it was early on

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in the uh in the Lavelle era.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Instead of texting that, I'm a tweet him and then.

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Speaker 3: I want to out he was the greatestsociate And has

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there ever been an offensive coordinator that b au fans

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have actually liked and heralded?

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Speaker 2: I think that's uh, that's.

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Speaker 3: The question of the offseason because I don't think anyone's

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gonna be happy.

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Speaker 2: Uh ever, anyway, uh be low. Best way to support you?

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What you do? How you do it? Brother? We gotta

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get you into an Odeon menswear suit? What do you say? Brother?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Is it gonna be free? Is it free?

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Speaker 3: I got you?

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Speaker 4: Hey, if it's free, let's let's let's let me do it. Bro,

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Let's let's do it, you know. I uh, man, I like,

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I tell you guys a little time. You know, I

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don't I don't need. Just pray for me, that's all.

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Just just pray for me.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm, I'm highly highly blessed and favored and anointed.

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And I don't know why, you know, I continue to

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get the blessings that I get in my life. I'm

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definitely the person, the last person on this earth that

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that deserves it. But I appreciate, you know, God for

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putting me in the situation and and just being able

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to be a part of a historic program and in

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a program that aligns with my faith even though I'm

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not a part of it, and the love and appreciation

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that I get. So that's all I ask, man, Just

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just pray for me. I tell you run all the time.

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I'm like, man, just put me in your top five

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listen to night. That's all I asked. You know this

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just one night. You don't gotta do it consistently, but

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just when you think about me, or when you see

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a tweet, or when you see me on TV or

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you hear me on radio, just just prady for me.

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You can get some some small I'm like I'm talking

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about one sentence, you know, five eight words.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Look, every time I go to the temple, I'll put

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Belo's name in the prayer role, so he makes the

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top five. There you go, bro, Hey, hey, there we go.

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That's why. Hey, that's why, that's why. That's why I

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got these blessings overflowing. You know in my life. I

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appreciate you guys.

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