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Speaker 3: This podcast may include explicit content that will take you
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Speaker 2: Listener's discretion is advised. Howdy folks, your host double jback here,
Speaker 2: coming at Live slash Live from my studio slash RV
Speaker 2: dining room located directly inside America. Once again, that's your
Speaker 2: host of Operation GCD JJ vance here and more notably
Speaker 2: not the Vice President. Thanks again for joining me here tonight,
Speaker 2: folks of the interwebs, Gill GCD. We've had a few
Speaker 2: programming alterations for tonight's evening, and we've had a few
Speaker 2: technical delays, so appreciate you all bearing with us. Got
Speaker 2: a like a lot of you folks at the interwebs.
Speaker 2: Got a real barn burner here on deck for you
Speaker 2: all tonight. I got guest Julie the Cosmic Peach back
Speaker 2: from maternity leaves, so to speak. Welcome back to Operation GCD.
Speaker 2: Man for the very first.
Speaker 4: Time, Yes, very first time.
Speaker 2: Oh speaking of sending difficulty. Sorry about that, man, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Not only is it my first time, I'm already getting
Speaker 4: kicked off.
Speaker 2: You're at it, you're at it, You're out of control.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me though, glad to be here.
Speaker 2: As known as Yes, I agree with Benjamin Selina's here
Speaker 2: as known. You're well known for your bee hole references,
Speaker 2: and there'll be plenty of those. I have no doubt there.
Speaker 4: Will be plenty of beehole discussion tonight.
Speaker 2: Also joined me here, fellow scotsman here, B C. Wallace,
Speaker 2: and fellow Oregonians. Is that what they say in Organs
Speaker 2: Oregonians there, welcome back to Operation GCD.
Speaker 5: Sir, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 2: What's new?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I apologize my pardon me, sir, I apologize, man, I
Speaker 2: was making a smart ass remark about being back from
Speaker 2: attorney leave. What's new at the Cosmic Peach Podcast?
Speaker 4: Oh uh yeah, I mean I got some shows already
Speaker 4: posted that people can go check out. I've been, you know,
Speaker 4: trying to get back into saddle after taking some time off.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's still.
Speaker 2: Up and get out on. That's taking some time.
Speaker 4: Off, right, Yeah, it's hard to podcast when you're tans busted,
Speaker 4: wide open, but you know I'm.
Speaker 2: Back here the whole reference of the evening. First, yes, nice,
Speaker 2: last one second, and I thank you mam and apologize. B. T.
Speaker 2: Wall's Truth and Shadow Podcast there. I gotta get Hey,
Speaker 2: I gotta get my ship to get here, Bud. What's
Speaker 2: over there?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 5: Nothing really new. I mean, I'm just doing some dives
Speaker 5: on the algorithm, predictive programming, things like that. So you
Speaker 5: can find my shadow shorts about the algorithm on my
Speaker 5: podcast with the Shadow Podcast, where I else do interviews
Speaker 5: different people.
Speaker 2: You were describing a show. I do frequently tune into
Speaker 2: your show, sir, and you were describing the show I
Speaker 2: apparently missed. Perhaps it's a newer one than I am
Speaker 2: not here too familiar with. H Can you remind me
Speaker 2: a game? We were talking offline about a show.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we were talking about I had an interviewed
Speaker 5: a guy named Jeffrey Smalden. He had spent quite a
Speaker 5: bit of time going to prisons and talking to serial killers,
Speaker 5: and we did one on John Wayne Gasey. So it
Speaker 5: was a pretty pretty interesting dive in really interesting many character.
Speaker 2: That is very interesting and relative to tonight's discussion, Julie
Speaker 2: and I were gonna do a ed gay in discussion.
Speaker 2: Then she went ahead and had a baby that day
Speaker 2: and canceled on me. How dare she? We're we doing
Speaker 2: a lot of that tonight and I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 2: to you when I was, you know, in one of
Speaker 2: my takes on that gun. He seems like a kind
Speaker 2: of a gayzy character amongst his community as far as
Speaker 2: being well liked. And he's always doing like magic shows
Speaker 2: and stuff for the kids, you know, kind of clown
Speaker 2: not a clown, but kind of clown like Jester like,
Speaker 2: if you will. And that's gonna be some of our
Speaker 2: topic here tonight. And last but not least, uh, the
Speaker 2: other JJ. This dude's out there trying out JJ. Mean,
Speaker 2: while I respect it, Sarah, I will have none of it.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Operation GCD. There, Jacob j host of
Speaker 2: Rise to Liberties.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, yes, sir, thank you so much for having
Speaker 7: me back. And hey, like I said, with the JJ thing,
Speaker 7: I gotta try man, you're out there second.
Speaker 2: I respect, I respect, I respect the attempts. But how
Speaker 2: dare you, sir?
Speaker 7: That's all?
Speaker 2: What's with the Rise of Liberty podcast? Sir?
Speaker 7: Well, right now, I'm actually in the middle of a
Speaker 7: deep dive of the West Memphis three.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: That's that's a big thing.
Speaker 7: I've I've got a couple of shows coming up with
Speaker 7: William Ramsey. Uh, with you know, the West Memphis three. Uh,
Speaker 7: this is a case that I kind of feel some
Speaker 7: personal attachment to because you know, the lie that these
Speaker 7: boys were just picked on because they listened to heavy
Speaker 7: metal and wore black T shirts and stuff, you know,
Speaker 7: and there are people like that out there, you know,
Speaker 7: but they don't commit ritualistic murder.
Speaker 2: So I you mean to tell me that this was
Speaker 2: not part of the Satanic.
Speaker 7: Panic, Well, it definitely was the Satanic panic. That was
Speaker 7: definitely planned, and.
Speaker 2: Uh you're of that panic, sir. I hope you realize this,
Speaker 2: right right?
Speaker 4: Still going I agree though, it's like not everybody who
Speaker 4: shops a hot topic cuts little boys penises off, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's like, this is not Those
Speaker 4: two things don't always go together, right right?
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's uh, that's what I'm going with. And also,
Speaker 7: of course, you know, I'm looking at doing a review
Speaker 7: of the most recent John Wayne Gacy, uh draw Dramau
Speaker 7: series that came out on Peacock, The Devil in Disguise,
Speaker 7: because of course, not a single point in that did
Speaker 7: they mention Philip Paskey and I have a I have
Speaker 7: a more major.
Speaker 4: The like The Clown and the Candyman stuff, right, Coral
Speaker 4: and all the fucking Heat Network stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's weird, sir. We were just talking about
Speaker 2: John Gacy. So that's the There'll be some good discussions
Speaker 2: we can get into tonight as well. And I'd like
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts on Westminis three. I don't think
Speaker 2: for a moment see what you're what you're pointing on
Speaker 2: is what I think is part of the larger operations
Speaker 2: of this panic. We're in this propaganda machine. It's not
Speaker 2: just the actual convincing of the panic gets the spin
Speaker 2: around matters such as high profile crimes. We see it
Speaker 2: there with the West Memphis three. Them boys did something.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they were solely responsible. In fact, I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot more to it in fact they did. However,
Speaker 2: get Damien Echles was interrogated and it's videotaped and unvailable
Speaker 2: on YouTube. He does know, in fact, details of the
Speaker 2: crime that only the killers and police should know, right,
Speaker 2: Do that with what ch will As far as calling
Speaker 2: them innocent, right.
Speaker 7: Right, right exactly? And you know, I kind of have
Speaker 7: a hard time with somebody who is innocent and also
Speaker 7: happens to be best friends with Johnny Depp, you know,
Speaker 7: and somebody that also total coincidence creates right, right, total coincidence,
Speaker 7: somebody that also recreates Aleister Crowley pictures. You know that
Speaker 7: that person clearly does not have any knowledge.
Speaker 2: Of the occult, absolutely not, all right? And Damien Eckle's
Speaker 2: name is real name, dude, who is his daddy? And
Speaker 2: what does he do? We're not playing that game. Well,
Speaker 2: we're playing that game tonight, just not with him, but
Speaker 2: perhaps in the future. But I thank y'all, all three
Speaker 2: of you all for joining me here tonight to gil GCD,
Speaker 2: and you folks of the interwebs here as well joining us.
Speaker 2: I have one quick plug for myself speaking of Satan,
Speaker 2: Satan shit uh tomorrow and I got a Saturday Night
Speaker 2: Satan double feature of well Operation GCD Thursdays on Saturday
Speaker 2: at nine thirty pm Eastern Saint Times. The Anatomy of
Speaker 2: the Satanic Panic and again West Memphis three comes at
Speaker 2: a very interesting time in that panic. In fact, we
Speaker 2: are still panic folks, so you know, beware. But that
Speaker 2: is the life and crimes of muppet Mikey, you know,
Speaker 2: the man behind the sye op in his pal ted Gunderson.
Speaker 6: There's thousands of Americans out there. By the way, I've
Speaker 6: been shot with a laser beam twice.
Speaker 2: Careful, folks, they got ted twice.
Speaker 4: Stay vigilant, so they got him right in his bee
Speaker 4: hole too.
Speaker 2: It was awful, tragic bee hole shot. I understand. So
Speaker 2: where would you folks like to kick this conversation off tonight?
Speaker 2: Would it be ed Guin? We'll do it chronologically speaking,
Speaker 2: as far as satan murder goes, that's before the term satanism,
Speaker 2: but it has all the hallmarks of anything we would
Speaker 2: call ritual satanic murder Post nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could open us up with a
Speaker 4: couple of points here if if that's cool with you.
Speaker 2: Guys, of course, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like a pop culture thing within
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. The guy Ryan Murphy who
Speaker 4: did American Horror Story. Also before that he did Glee,
Speaker 4: and you know with Glee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I apologize, I apologize. I'm not familiar with
Speaker 2: this Ryan Murphy character. Per se. Did you just tell
Speaker 2: me he did American Horror Story and then Glee?
Speaker 4: No, he did Glee first and then he did American
Speaker 4: Horror Story.
Speaker 2: So that Glee might be more of a scary show.
Speaker 2: He did. Then I'm not sure what this is a
Speaker 2: weird dynam It's weird.
Speaker 4: Right right, So listen, I got a whole fucking theory
Speaker 4: going on here about this guy. So he does Glee,
Speaker 4: and a lot of the people involved with Glee end
Speaker 4: up dying in mysterious ways. It's like final Destination Glee.
Speaker 2: You know that familiar you're talking about, right, And so then.
Speaker 4: He goes on to make American Horror Story, a lot
Speaker 4: of conspiracy candy within almost every season of American Horror Story,
Speaker 4: Thank you, Brent, I see your comment there. And then
Speaker 4: he goes on now to make serial killer shows on Netflix.
Speaker 4: So first it's Glee, then it's American Story. Now he's
Speaker 4: doing these series called Monster. The first one he did
Speaker 4: was about Jeffrey Dahmer. The second one he did was
Speaker 4: a about the Menindez brothers. Now the third one has
Speaker 4: come out and it's about ed Gian And I find
Speaker 4: it very interesting that he is choosing these specific killers
Speaker 4: to do these series on because they're all mentioned in
Speaker 4: Program to Kill, even the Menindez brothers, it's like their
Speaker 4: dad was raping on them. They went crazy and killed,
Speaker 4: raping on them kids, you know what I mean? Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: So it's like he chooses Jeffrey Dahmer oddly enough, the
Speaker 4: Menindez brothers and now at Gean, who he calls like
Speaker 4: the godfather of all serial killers.
Speaker 2: And so you know, if I may add some of
Speaker 2: that some to that, well, hold on a sec I'm
Speaker 2: gonna rewind there. First of all, excellent comment. There's there
Speaker 2: about the satanic cold activity and around the Bridgewater triangle,
Speaker 2: if you will, uh, not only is the we're speaking
Speaker 2: of cannibals tonight, kid dedling cannibals allegedly with that guy
Speaker 2: in right, amongst other things, serial psychopathic serial killers, Believe
Speaker 2: it or not. I knew a kid, did it?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 2: I met him, a kid edling, cannibalistic, psychopathic serial killer
Speaker 2: who was once imprisoned within the same area there in
Speaker 2: the Bridgewater State Mental Hospital. And then he was I
Speaker 2: think he was. But I have a theory that he's
Speaker 2: been used as a recruiter of sorts for a cult
Speaker 2: activity with all these kids. He was in a lot
Speaker 2: of kids stuff and they just kept letting them out,
Speaker 2: you know, amongst other things. This is usually before I
Speaker 2: met him, came face to face with him right right
Speaker 2: there in Cascade County Jail, pure evil. He may or
Speaker 2: may not have served me a human meatburger. Also the
Speaker 2: year prior at the hearty is that probably did happen.
Speaker 2: But today in that same Bridgewater State Mental Hospital allegedly
Speaker 2: and I do stress the term allegedly since my old
Speaker 2: stalker and want to be pr rep Buffalo Jared Revisa
Speaker 2: if you I'm familiar with them miss him in the
Speaker 2: introduction here he goes, that's Buffalo Jared in the in
Speaker 2: the concept of this whole buffalo bill from Silence of
Speaker 2: the Lambs and whatnot, or as I call him, Buffalo Jared. Uh,
Speaker 2: that actually originates with ed Gene right, Yes.
Speaker 4: So ed Gian was the inspiration for Silence of the Lambs,
Speaker 4: Psycho and the Texas Chainsaw massacre supposedly right, So he
Speaker 4: How bad do you have to be to inspire not one,
Speaker 4: but three horror movies about you? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: So yeah, but is he a fall guy? He is?
Speaker 4: So that this is the thing and we can get
Speaker 4: right into it if you want.
Speaker 2: What do you have? I mean, man, what do you
Speaker 2: just know? Are you familiar with the tales of ed
Speaker 2: Gean this new Netflix documentary or this Brian Murphy character.
Speaker 2: It seems like a dark son of a bitch. She
Speaker 2: knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely familiar with Ryan Murphy and definitely
Speaker 7: familiar with ed Geane.
Speaker 2: You knew him. Did he serve your human meat burger? Oh?
Speaker 7: Yes, very very much.
Speaker 5: Might not have been born.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, no, he he actually died before I
Speaker 7: was even.
Speaker 2: Born, so maybe his son served human human be burgers.
Speaker 2: He did live though to the eighties though. Check this
Speaker 2: out him interviewed the guy right and by Maser, another
Speaker 2: character amongst all these kind of true crime serial killers.
Speaker 2: As you were saying, you know, telling these tales of
Speaker 2: like Ryan Murphy's doing the you know, specific tales dom
Speaker 2: or et cetera, et cetera, we got that character. Damn it.
Speaker 2: I've done lost. Is okay, it'll get back to me
Speaker 2: here in a second, Go ahead, sir, I've done lost.
Speaker 2: I'm stuck him up at World. He's involved in all
Speaker 2: that new the new Netflix stuff though, as well, around
Speaker 2: to Tom O'Neil and Ship Danny Castelliro's project It'll Come
Speaker 2: the Octopus yeap. So it's interesting always who tells us
Speaker 2: these tales there right now? Is the guy who is
Speaker 2: uh do you know what I'm talking about? Julie who
Speaker 2: who interviewed ed Geen in prison there and them tapes
Speaker 2: like you know, late seventies. Maybe it's the filmmaker.
Speaker 4: Sure, actually, but they got it. They they put something
Speaker 4: kind of like that in the Netflix show, but it
Speaker 4: was actually not true at all, which I'll get into later.
Speaker 2: But jumping the jumping the gun here, No.
Speaker 4: You're not the gun. It's just yeah, they didn't put
Speaker 4: it in right in the show. They made they like
Speaker 4: conflated some ship.
Speaker 2: But yeahx tale of not putting it in right right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Does that is that a subtle b whole reference?
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, kidding, right, well, you know, so they say
Speaker 4: ed Gian uh you know he was. He collected body parts.
Speaker 4: He had like a nipple belt and like a human
Speaker 4: face mask, and he had human hand gloves. He ate
Speaker 4: out of skulls, like he ate his fucking cereal out
Speaker 4: of fucking skulls, and shit body suits, right, he had bodysuits.
Speaker 4: He had like dehydrated vulvas in like a keepsake box,
Speaker 4: and you know he would just dress up in his
Speaker 4: mom's fucking underwear and put dried out volva on his
Speaker 4: penis and wear it around. And he was a sixth
Speaker 4: son of a bitch allegedly, right, But it doesn't mean
Speaker 4: you can be a six son of a bitch and
Speaker 4: still not actually have murdered anybody.
Speaker 2: There, you me a six on a bitch for sure,
Speaker 2: I told right there with you, ma'am. And he could
Speaker 2: be part of a larger network and fall guy, which
Speaker 2: is often when I the pattern of behavior I see
Speaker 2: around all these high profile quote unquote satannic murders, homicides,
Speaker 2: ritual sacrifices, serial killers, is there's a larger network of
Speaker 2: folks arounding a quote unquote fall guy that seems to
Speaker 2: take the rap for everything.
Speaker 4: Well, he seems to be simple minded a lot like
Speaker 4: Henry Lee Lucas, And so I have seen with Henry
Speaker 4: Lee Lucas, like how they do this playbook of sure,
Speaker 4: let Henry take the fall for all this shit. Doesn't
Speaker 4: mean he did it though, And well he might have
Speaker 4: killed his mom or whatever they say he killed like
Speaker 4: his mom and his girlfriend, but he didn't fucking kill
Speaker 4: thousands like they said, Like.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what I'm saying, yeah, exactly. Well again it
Speaker 2: goes back to the evidence. You can dance Henry Lucas
Speaker 2: around America and had him claimed six hundred some odd murders,
Speaker 2: or you could provide some evidence he's connected to any
Speaker 2: of it, right, show he was even in the town
Speaker 2: when it had courage, showing me he's in proximity to
Speaker 2: such a situation.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, though, is like with ed Gee,
Speaker 4: and sure he's a sick, depraved individual. Yes, he was
Speaker 4: grave robbing, Yeah he had a weird crush on his mom,
Speaker 4: But did he murder anybody?
Speaker 2: You knows, he probably he probably fucked a lot of corpses.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he murdered anybody, right.
Speaker 4: Right, That's what I'm saying is like, Okay, yeah, he's
Speaker 4: into some sick, fucking, weird, fucking necro shit, but I
Speaker 4: don't know if that means he actually like they say
Speaker 4: he killed his brother, even in my own Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: you're speaking not you know the rest of the panel,
Speaker 4: but I think, uh, you know, his mom was involved
Speaker 4: in this satanic cult, right, generational Satanism, and uh you
Speaker 4: know they say his brother he killed his brother. His
Speaker 4: brother could have died, you know, as a result of
Speaker 4: some old this bullshit. But uh, you know, there's no
Speaker 4: evidence of him actually murdering anybody. I think he was
Speaker 4: like the finisher guy, a lot like they.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, Okay, I've considered that he's WinCE in the wolf.
Speaker 7: So so what's really interesting, Uh if you go back
Speaker 7: and read through some of the newspapers at the time,
Speaker 7: or you go back and read through you know, the
Speaker 7: Central State Hospital documents or anything like this. Anytime Ed
Speaker 7: is actually asked about the murders, he says that he
Speaker 7: can't remember any of them.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, allegedly he only killed two people and so, but
Speaker 7: he was caught with all these body parts. So I mean,
Speaker 7: at the very least he was at least guilty of
Speaker 7: gray browbing. At least, in my opinion, he definitely was. However,
Speaker 7: the murder thing, I agree with Julia. I mean, there's
Speaker 7: there is no evidence directly, uh, and that this is
Speaker 7: long before you know, DNA evidence. Obviously. They just assume
Speaker 7: you have a woman strung up like a deer gutted
Speaker 7: in your garage and you're the one guilty of it.
Speaker 7: It does look bad, It does look really bad.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it makes you look like shit. Actually, when
Speaker 4: you have somebody you.
Speaker 2: Know, used to say someone didn't plant that. He used
Speaker 2: to say something, but the dead lady's body. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying her body wasn't there. I'm just saying he's to
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 4: Ed, I mean was there.
Speaker 2: And I guess you don't have a fancy nickname for
Speaker 2: him Wisconsin cheese.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean they called him like the ghoul
Speaker 4: of Plainfield and stuff like this. You know, I'm notorious
Speaker 4: for coming up with my own monikers, which give me
Speaker 4: a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really enjoy your nicknames for these characters.
Speaker 4: Could be the dehydrated volva killer, you know.
Speaker 2: But so the thing about him an acronym in there, maybe.
Speaker 4: He will, I'll, you know, give me a minute, it'll
Speaker 4: come to me. It's like, you know, when I'm not
Speaker 4: thinking of it, it'll happen. Right, It's like magic.
Speaker 2: But you I think you hit on a good point
Speaker 2: if we can start whoa calm down chronologically speaking, regarding
Speaker 2: his mother being involved in some sort of generational activities.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, yeah, he those bodies were actually
Speaker 4: at the house, right that, I think that they were
Speaker 4: actually there. But the thing is is he could be
Speaker 4: like the weird finisher guy like Gacy or something. They
Speaker 4: drop bodies off at his heath. They only got a
Speaker 4: confession out of him after they like knocked his fucking
Speaker 4: block off. The sheriff like beat him.
Speaker 7: Investigator. Yeah, the lead investigator beat the hell out of him,
Speaker 7: which was really interesting. Personally. I believe he's a he's
Speaker 7: a victim of d I D. You know, he was
Speaker 7: programmed basically under like MK ultra mind control programming, which
Speaker 7: is why he can't remember doing it because he actually
Speaker 7: wasn't the trigger man, although they weren't. Actually I believe
Speaker 7: the one hardware store owner was shot. I believe, so yeah,
Speaker 7: he wasn't the trigger man, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 7: And that's, in my opinion, why he can't remember for
Speaker 7: the murders, and he's got these chunks of time missing,
Speaker 7: because that's that's a very standard side effect of programming,
Speaker 7: is not being able to remember these things.
Speaker 4: One hundred I completely agree with that. And it's like
Speaker 4: he is simple minded JJ's it's like he's he's the
Speaker 4: Forrest Gump of fucking serial killers.
Speaker 2: And because look how look at the impression he's left
Speaker 2: on our society at in our media. Everyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So you know what's weird is everyone loved him too,
Speaker 7: Like he was he was like all the rage in
Speaker 7: the town. Like I actually haven't seen the newest ed
Speaker 7: game thing on Netflix, but you know they they kind
Speaker 7: of portray him as like one where girls didn't like
Speaker 7: him and the townspeople kind of thought he was like
Speaker 7: this recluse and an idiot. They might have, but I
Speaker 7: mean from all accounts, everyone said that they loved him.
Speaker 7: I mean he even babysat for people in the town.
Speaker 5: You know, the same as John Wayne Gacy.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a I get the Gaysey impression all day.
Speaker 2: He's known as a jester. He would entertain the children
Speaker 2: with magic shows. I mean that's very much the same
Speaker 2: kind of community like character that Gaysey had or reputation.
Speaker 7: Which makes him perfect for a fall guy.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, he And you know what else makes
Speaker 4: him a perfect fall guy is like he's he lives
Speaker 4: with his mom. You know, it's like he's a gentle,
Speaker 4: gumpy kind of like town folk.
Speaker 2: He's super gumpy, simple guy. He's connected here right as
Speaker 2: far as again, and like he like what what was
Speaker 2: known about serial killings or you know, just you know,
Speaker 2: a very aggressive homicide. Prior to I mean, I know
Speaker 2: there was some I'm just saying this really redefined Like
Speaker 2: there was the Axe Man of New Orleans, there was
Speaker 2: the texar Canus situations there in the late forties. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying there's there was incidents of a mass occurs
Speaker 2: previous to this, but this redefined massacres.
Speaker 4: This guy, well yeah, and you know his depravity, uh
Speaker 4: kind of redefined depravity. You know, when they bust into
Speaker 4: this guy's house, it's on a whole other level. I mean,
Speaker 4: he chainsaws some bitches whole like from tit's to you know, crap.
Speaker 2: You know, I saw someone someone died just like that
Speaker 2: in studio six six six there Dale was watching.
Speaker 4: I mean, there are pictures of this stuff. You should
Speaker 4: you should the crime you should pull those up.
Speaker 2: We don't do.
Speaker 4: It. Do it the crime, the real the real crime scene.
Speaker 4: Because I'm telling you you guys like the the human
Speaker 4: face masks and the hand gloves and the skull balls
Speaker 4: and all this stuff. Right, it's it's it's unprecedented.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it was incredibly odd for the time. Although
Speaker 7: I mean there were many there were.
Speaker 2: Many today, right, Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Mean maybe not for Portland.
Speaker 7: I mean there were many serial killers before then. You know,
Speaker 7: the one that always comes to mind late eighteen hundreds
Speaker 7: is bel Gunnis. You know, she was a woman, which
Speaker 7: is odd enough for a serial killer of any time,
Speaker 7: but she yeah, allegedly, but she would lure traveling men
Speaker 7: into her uh, into her farmhouse, you know, offer them
Speaker 7: room and board, you know, a hot bill or whatever,
Speaker 7: and she would do away with them HH Holmes style
Speaker 7: and they were just never seen from again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about a JH. Holmes was a fucking
Speaker 4: psychopath too, right, I mean did don't all of these
Speaker 4: like reek of occultism to you? Though? Like, think about this, right,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of occult ship going on with Jack
Speaker 4: the Ripper. There's even stories that somehow, like Helena Blovotsky
Speaker 4: and like Aleister Crowley were somehow involved with Jack the Ripper.
Speaker 4: And then you have like the Torso murderer, the whoever
Speaker 4: hacked the fucking tits off the Black Dahlia. Uh you
Speaker 4: know this is all you know, this is all before
Speaker 4: ed Gian though. So I agree with Jacob that's not
Speaker 4: like serial killer was new, but he did some depraved
Speaker 4: ass ship that made a name for himself.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's kind of like Columbine to school shootings.
Speaker 7: You know, there were school shootings before Columbine, but Columbine
Speaker 7: was the thing that put it on the map for
Speaker 7: everyone and that game.
Speaker 2: Because even there was Mississippi due there was Jones Arkansas.
Speaker 2: I can refuse the school shootings.
Speaker 4: But like with edgiean uh, you know, like let's just
Speaker 4: take for example, Jack the Ripper. Okay, what do he do?
Speaker 4: He stabbed a couple of bitches, you know, molested them
Speaker 4: a little bit, did whatever he was. I just you know,
Speaker 4: the depravity comes in where it's like, yeah, Jack the Ripper,
Speaker 4: he was slicing in dice in some hoes, but he
Speaker 4: wasn't wearing their faces around. Okay, this is like some
Speaker 4: new shiit.
Speaker 7: What's interesting though, the the reason I think this is
Speaker 7: is actually because of the aftermath because at the time
Speaker 7: when they were pulling all the stuff out of his house,
Speaker 7: there was like a literal circus outside, like people were
Speaker 7: scooping up dirt and selling it. Like there there was
Speaker 7: a whole like economy built around the house, which is
Speaker 7: why the house actually ended up, uh mysteriously burning down
Speaker 7: because the townfolk didn't want the house to be you know,
Speaker 7: some murder tour or whatever. And I kind of agree
Speaker 7: with him, like if it wouldn't have burned down, it
Speaker 7: would have like it would have turned into a horror.
Speaker 4: A museum, right, yeah, a museum.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's the deal. Once the house is gone
Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty eight, the law enforcement destroyed all the
Speaker 2: other evidence as well. So therefore, you know, he's not
Speaker 2: gonna he's in a loony bin. Right.
Speaker 7: Some of it actually is still in museums all over
Speaker 7: the country. You can find pieces, although any of the
Speaker 7: body parts and you know, the nipple belt stuff like
Speaker 7: that is long gone for sure.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, and I'm tracking, sir, I was. I apologize.
Speaker 2: Let me readdress my statement and actually be a segue
Speaker 2: in our next next portion of this conversation. So I
Speaker 2: appreciate that the evidence they had, the physical evidence against
Speaker 2: Guide and which were basically consisted of like a receipt
Speaker 2: from the hardware store, right right, they said, poof that
Speaker 2: went the way of Houdini in nineteen fifty eight, no more,
Speaker 2: what was it? So what was the story on that?
Speaker 2: So I guess we can do is bad story here?
Speaker 2: You all tell me, you want to do backstory? Do
Speaker 2: you want to do evidence? Which one? You go? Which one?
Speaker 2: Which one? First?
Speaker 5: Look at his real quick?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, we should probably start with
Speaker 4: his mom.
Speaker 2: To you, man, you're the guy of collegist, you're the
Speaker 2: expert on.
Speaker 5: You might as well start with his mom.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, that's a great one.
Speaker 2: That one coming got me.
Speaker 4: Maybe that should be his moniker ed there you go, there,
Speaker 4: you go there. You know, I'll let b T go
Speaker 4: if he's got some stuff on the mom because I
Speaker 4: don't want to.
Speaker 5: I've never heard of this guy until JJ said something
Speaker 5: pre show.
Speaker 4: With me, Well maybe Jacob can jump in.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he had a weird crush on his mom.
Speaker 4: You know, he would wear her fucking bras and stuff around.
Speaker 4: She was she was like the mom from care okay,
Speaker 4: but like the real life version of that person.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: It was a straight up Oedipus complex, like through and through.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's like, you know, he want he
Speaker 4: loved her as you know you would love your mother,
Speaker 4: but it was it went beyond that because it was
Speaker 4: like she didn't want him to get married, she didn't
Speaker 4: want him to have sex, she didn't want him to
Speaker 4: have children. It was kind of just like stay with
Speaker 4: me forever kind of change.
Speaker 7: She literally was the the mother from Psycho. Yeah, she was.
Speaker 7: She was incredibly domineering, and you know, she was an
Speaker 7: incredibly religious woman that came from an abusive home. Her
Speaker 7: father was incredibly abusive. I actually don't know too much
Speaker 7: about like her upbringing, but basically she parlayed that into
Speaker 7: abuse on the family, you know, because hurt people hurt people.
Speaker 7: And Ed's father was not not so much abusive necessarily,
Speaker 7: although there are accounts of him abusing mainly like emotional
Speaker 7: and verbally, but he was a drinker. He was a
Speaker 7: hardcore drinker, and his mom resented his dad because of that.
Speaker 7: Eventually Ed's dad left and then so she went full
Speaker 7: like feminist man hating right right right, And then she
Speaker 7: also was all about woman hating as well. Every single
Speaker 7: woman is a tool of the devil, and you know,
Speaker 7: all women are harlots and everything, and just basically created
Speaker 7: a recluse that lived at home. And there was no
Speaker 7: other woman that was good for Ed other than his mother.
Speaker 2: And I have one question for you all, one question
Speaker 2: on this lady. She has a real treat Oh wait, great,
Speaker 2: big fat person. Oh wait, well, I mean, what's she
Speaker 2: a grab big fat pork. She sounds like Arabic fat.
Speaker 3: She was a.
Speaker 4: Skinny, little spinster lady. She looked like a fucking brown recluse,
Speaker 4: if a brown recluse could be a person like. She
Speaker 4: was just like so venomous, looking like a crushed out
Speaker 4: camel cigarette, but like as a Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: What I'm talking about, weather weather face, like an old catcher.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yees, get it, you get exactly real sexy, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: But I mean think of it in this in this way,
Speaker 4: is like whatever they had going on caused him to
Speaker 4: have this weird thing where he liked to choke his
Speaker 4: chicken while wearing her undergarments, and like, uh, that's gotta
Speaker 4: be some sick ship, right, you know, it's like your
Speaker 4: mom's bra and panties and like, I don't. That's why
Speaker 4: I say it has to be some kind of generational
Speaker 4: satanism going on here, because obviously the mom was abused,
Speaker 4: right then she abuses her kids. Then she you know,
Speaker 4: ed Gian does his thing. I don't think he murdered anybody,
Speaker 4: but I do think he was into some weird sexual
Speaker 4: de gravity shit. I do think he was like a
Speaker 4: weird fall guy, maybe a finisher guy, you know.
Speaker 7: Bring up that tab I pulled up, JJ, it's actually
Speaker 7: a picture of her. Her name is Augusta.
Speaker 4: Ging August Yeah, like just the name.
Speaker 7: Right, This woman, this woman. This was allegedly taken around
Speaker 7: nineteen forty, so this would have been not too long
Speaker 7: before she died. And you can just look in her eyes.
Speaker 7: I mean, she's got those psycho eyes.
Speaker 5: Literally, yeah, but which one am I supposed to be
Speaker 5: looking at?
Speaker 2: She looks handsome, That's all I can say.
Speaker 7: A very handsome woman and great.
Speaker 2: Broad faced, broad shoulder looking broad. He sure she has
Speaker 2: a great, big fat woman.
Speaker 7: A linebacker. And this is a picture of what it
Speaker 7: was like around his house. Uh, you know they had
Speaker 7: booth set up you know there. It was a literal
Speaker 7: circus around his house. After the crimes hit hit the media,
Speaker 7: and so I think the media aspect of this is
Speaker 7: also another reason why we're still talking about them today
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty five. You know, media sensation.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I'm glad you said that's a I appreciate
Speaker 2: you using your brain holds, sir. There for God's intended
Speaker 2: purposes and not for what many many folks do in
Speaker 2: this world is an oversized paperweight, because that is That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Not only does this change the game
Speaker 2: as far as the massacre of the scene goes, it's
Speaker 2: the media circus. It's we can see it if you
Speaker 2: look at all the events proceeding in after. This is
Speaker 2: the point in time where this media circus really the
Speaker 2: inception point of this. Yes, murder media circuits.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and this was the first you know, serial killer
Speaker 7: or like mass murderer or whatever that really was covered
Speaker 7: like this. Of course Jack the Ripper was, but that
Speaker 7: wasn't international news. Ed Gean actually made international news.
Speaker 2: With a lot of publicity too. Right.
Speaker 4: They mentioned they mentioned Ed Kemper in this new Netflix
Speaker 4: show as being inspired by Ed gana with.
Speaker 2: The Ted go ahead, sir.
Speaker 7: Just they they mentioned everybody, they have a weird like
Speaker 7: scene that's been kind of floating around the social media
Speaker 7: that's kind of shows Ed having like this delusion or
Speaker 7: something where you know, all of these serial killers, Charles
Speaker 7: Manson and uh Ted Bundy and Ed Kemper and like
Speaker 7: all of these guys come out to thank Ed because
Speaker 7: he's like the godfather, and it's supposed to be like
Speaker 7: a a delusion that Ed is in or like a
Speaker 7: dream or something like that. And it's really really strange.
Speaker 4: Because you know, when you have somebody who is capable
Speaker 4: quote unquote capable of doing these kind of things, they
Speaker 4: have to give them like some kind of weird, uh,
Speaker 4: psychological disorder. So they were like, oh, well, you know
Speaker 4: he was schizophrenic. It's like, dude, there are a lot
Speaker 4: of schizophrenic people out there that don't cut dead people's
Speaker 4: nipples off and string and a belt.
Speaker 2: Let's hope there's don't hope they don't all start doing that, right.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it is interesting how we get the even as
Speaker 2: you're all point out the constant references in comparisons to
Speaker 2: these other serial killers. You know, because as Juliet mentioned earlier,
Speaker 2: I think maybe perhaps before the show that Ed Gainey
Speaker 2: is even referenced in Program to Kill and this whole
Speaker 2: matters of the satanic serial killers come home a Phoenix
Speaker 2: program and up at mikey Achino and Gang, and we
Speaker 2: see them every almost every time you see any of
Speaker 2: these characters, references almost like they're referenced in like a
Speaker 2: Marvel universe. Capacity to like the fucking Avengers of fucking
Speaker 2: Suicide Squad or whatever you want to call it, of
Speaker 2: you super team of fucking killers, right, and even in
Speaker 2: films like American Psyche, which there's a lot to be
Speaker 2: said about old Brett Easton Ellis I think, but the
Speaker 2: uh and Ryan Murphy, I believe he incorporated smiley face
Speaker 2: killer stuff in American Horror Story Brett Easton Ellison's face
Speaker 2: killer film. So that's fucking creepy. But yeah, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say real quick. In the first
Speaker 7: season of American Horror Story, which is aptly dubbed Murder House,
Speaker 7: I mean, he references all sorts of things, the Black
Speaker 7: Dahlia Columbine Like, he just goes on and on and
Speaker 7: mentions all sorts of yep, sure does. That's one of
Speaker 7: the main characters in the first season. He's a school
Speaker 7: shooter that doesn't remember that he was a school shooter
Speaker 7: until later one.
Speaker 4: The first season of American Horror Story is chocked full
Speaker 4: of conspiracy, yeah whole. I mean yeah, And there's another
Speaker 4: season called Cult and it's got all this like Trump
Speaker 4: stuff and Hillary Clinton stuff and it's just ran.
Speaker 7: It's wild. It's wild Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 2: I had a question for you, ma'am. Hillary Clinton successfully
Speaker 2: traded uh, she profited hundreds of thousands of dollars in
Speaker 2: trading cattle futures, well in labor giving birth to Chelsea Clinton?
Speaker 2: Were you successful in doing anything about nature?
Speaker 4: All I can remember is my tank getting busted wide open.
Speaker 4: So it's just.
Speaker 2: Not posterous that that Hillary Clinton claims have been like,
Speaker 2: you know, laying in her bed giving labor, trading cattle
Speaker 2: futures on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
Speaker 4: I mean, unless she got some kind of epidural that
Speaker 4: just like totally cut off all the field from the
Speaker 4: waist down. I mean, I just don't if you're in
Speaker 4: active labor, the last thing you're thinking of is is
Speaker 4: literally anything other than when does this stop?
Speaker 2: Like, well you ever sold these very preposterous narratives of
Speaker 2: this nature. And again I look at all media and
Speaker 2: the way we're in the media circuses, especially as the
Speaker 2: other JJ was pointing out, watch out, sir, I see
Speaker 2: what you're doing there, trying to out Jjmie here. I'm
Speaker 2: won't having you, but you know, I take all these things,
Speaker 2: you know, very circumspective about these narratives because once again
Speaker 2: the well, I'm sure we'll get into it eventually here,
Speaker 2: but generally speaking, the evidence around this whole Guanin affair
Speaker 2: seems very very suspect. But when we keep seeing the
Speaker 2: media and how they portray them and connect them over
Speaker 2: and over again, even in our fictional medias. When this
Speaker 2: quote from American Psycho he's talking about, it's an Ed
Speaker 2: Kemper quote, but he referenced as ed guyin make up
Speaker 2: how fucking unattractive there? Do you know what ed Gane
Speaker 2: said about women?
Speaker 5: Ed Gan major diacon albarn No, serial killer Wisconsin in
Speaker 5: the fifties and said, I said, when I see a
Speaker 5: pretty girl walking down the street, I think two things.
Speaker 2: One part of me wants.
Speaker 5: To take her out and talk to her, be real
Speaker 5: nice and sweet and treat her right.
Speaker 2: And what the other part of them think what her
Speaker 2: head would look like on a stick, Which is an
Speaker 2: actual quote you first can see from Mad Camper, Right, dude.
Speaker 4: That's the thing though, is like they say, like Ed Kemper,
Speaker 4: who's also mentioned in Program to Kill, I talked about
Speaker 4: actually in an episode recently, But it's like they they
Speaker 4: apparently drew inspiration from ed Gian Now here's my thing.
Speaker 4: He's technically not even a serial killer, right because he
Speaker 4: only allegedly killed two people. Right, you have to kill.
Speaker 7: Three three, three in between both right in between all
Speaker 7: of them. You have to have a cooling off period.
Speaker 4: So Dave McGowan, and I'm sure people are sick to
Speaker 4: death of me bringing this up. But in Program to.
Speaker 2: Kill ahead man, he was right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was right. And so he mentions how there
Speaker 4: have been Satanic cults ripping and running through Wisconsin in this.
Speaker 2: Area and run and I forgot about that reference than.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he talks about this, you know in
Speaker 4: Program to Kill, how this area of Wisconsin is silly
Speaker 4: with satanic cult activity. Uh, you know, is it a
Speaker 4: co winn.
Speaker 2: I mean in that proximity right Milwaukee, you know, near Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Chicago,
Speaker 2: right cities, Lacrosse, that's whereached from. That's a hotbed of
Speaker 2: smiley face killer activity. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Same same with Ohio. Ohio. Yeah, Ohio has some of
Speaker 7: the Uh actually, last time I looked, has the highest
Speaker 7: population of Satanists per capita out of any state in
Speaker 7: the in the Union.
Speaker 4: So isn't that wild?
Speaker 2: That's Wisconsin, But some say it's witches covens. I do
Speaker 2: agree both or high high volumes per capiti sir. So
Speaker 2: that's great point. And you know what my my assertion
Speaker 2: is because of the mounds. So the highest concentration of
Speaker 2: medena mounds are in Ohio and the highest concentration of
Speaker 2: the effigy mounds, the animal effigy mounds are in Wisconsin.
Speaker 7: Fuck, it's gotta be just a coincidence.
Speaker 2: This is the world the highest of these mounds in
Speaker 2: the entire world. And this isn't just America, this is
Speaker 2: in the world. And now the largest effigy mound in
Speaker 2: the world is they call it, well, the dumb dumbs
Speaker 2: called serpent mound. I assert it's sperm and egg mound.
Speaker 2: But it's a bit of a it's all sex shit,
Speaker 2: and we don't see a lot of sex shit with
Speaker 2: a specifically right in his crimes. But you know, outside
Speaker 2: of this auto ginophilia business, did they name that that
Speaker 2: that syndrome after him? Auto gonophilia?
Speaker 4: They said that he.
Speaker 2: Happened up like a lady right now, that is.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, they said that he had.
Speaker 2: Well he would for all of these names after him.
Speaker 2: Is this what's happening right now? Am I just learning all,
Speaker 2: this is named after ed guy.
Speaker 4: They said that he had that ship because he would
Speaker 4: like wear their titties around and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean he had a full woman suit though too.
Speaker 5: I mean it was right, yeah, I mean that it was.
Speaker 5: That was really weird because I mean he's dressing up
Speaker 5: as a woman after his mom's gone and you know.
Speaker 7: Where to be his mom his mom to.
Speaker 5: That, Jane Wayne Gacy had the same kind of he
Speaker 5: would replace his mother in the and be the wife
Speaker 5: of his father.
Speaker 4: It was really right, Nick, Ship is what I'm here.
Speaker 7: If you want to bring up him.
Speaker 2: Was he wearing I'm gonna need a name, folks, whose
Speaker 2: skin was he wearing? This lady's skin?
Speaker 7: So the skin came from some of the grapes, some
Speaker 7: some of the graves that he robbed.
Speaker 4: It was a hodgepodge of sort.
Speaker 2: It was just one person. I thought, maybe it's like
Speaker 2: one great big fat lady. Oh wait, machine a great
Speaker 2: big fat person. Oh wait.
Speaker 4: Just lotion on their skin though, And he was Ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gotta put the lotions on the skin.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But so like it was, it was a hodgepodge.
Speaker 4: He would take one and be like, I like this
Speaker 4: one's tits, I like this one's hands, I like this
Speaker 4: one's puss, and then he would sew them all together
Speaker 4: and make like a human suit out.
Speaker 2: Of its creative at least, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So this is.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 7: This is an excerpt from some of the initial medical
Speaker 7: documents from doctor Sherbert. I believe it's how you pronounced that.
Speaker 7: Uh So this is December twelfth, nineteen fifty seven. It
Speaker 7: says the patient was interviewed on this date underlined. It
Speaker 7: says he again denied any knowledge about the death of
Speaker 7: miss or Missus Hogan and stated that he had admitted
Speaker 7: this crime because this is what the investigators wished him
Speaker 7: to do, which is really that's what I'm talking about, right, So,
Speaker 7: it was impossible to obtain a chronological series of events
Speaker 7: with regard to the death of Missus Warden that the
Speaker 7: first person he allegedly killed. He specifically denied remembering the
Speaker 7: evisceration of the body. He stated that he had violated
Speaker 7: nine graves, and when questioned as to his reasons for
Speaker 7: doing this, he stated that he thought it was because
Speaker 7: he wanted a remembrance of his mother, and then highlighted
Speaker 7: it says he denied any sexual relations with any of
Speaker 7: these bodies and gave, uh yeah, and gave as his
Speaker 7: reason for this that they smelled too bad. He again
Speaker 7: admitted that for a period of time after his mother's death,
Speaker 7: he felt that he could arouse the dead by an
Speaker 7: act of will power. He claimed to have tied or
Speaker 7: tried to arouse his dead mother by an act of
Speaker 7: willpower and was disappointed when he was unsuccessful. He also
Speaker 7: admitted that he had attempted this, uh, this sort of
Speaker 7: thing with and it just goes on right right right,
Speaker 7: which the.
Speaker 4: That's the satanic cult ship that I think his mother
Speaker 4: was a part of. That was a part of where
Speaker 4: did he learn this ship from?
Speaker 7: If it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Give me a name right point Now, Again, there's a
Speaker 2: seems to be a larger situation going on here with
Speaker 2: his background his mother then right.
Speaker 4: Yes, So in the Netflix show there's a character her
Speaker 4: name is Adeline. They kind of conflated who this woman
Speaker 4: is in his life. They said, you know that they
Speaker 4: were in a romantic relationship, that they were engaged.
Speaker 2: At some right, what was that for twenty like they
Speaker 2: were saying, like for decades, I went back twenty years. Initially, Initially,
Speaker 2: what a media circus, right, Like, what a media circuit?
Speaker 2: You send this? I'm girl out? She because she did
Speaker 2: a report in the Minneapolis paper, like contemporary to the events.
Speaker 2: So that's a that's a distraction of anything. Like does
Speaker 2: she even know this guy? Like do they even know
Speaker 2: each other?
Speaker 7: So it's it's interesting. And the very first interview she did,
Speaker 7: she said, you know, years and years and years, right,
Speaker 7: I can't remember the exact amount of years. But and
Speaker 7: then ever since the very first interview she did, every
Speaker 7: interview after that she said six months.
Speaker 2: That was it?
Speaker 7: So one interview and years, right, And then she's.
Speaker 4: Part of the cult, dude, she is definitely part of
Speaker 4: the fucking cult.
Speaker 2: I like your brain holds that, man, I like, we're
Speaker 2: going with this.
Speaker 4: Why would she tell the truth in the first interview?
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, thank you, Ryan, Why you know,
Speaker 4: go from twenty years to six months, that's quite a
Speaker 4: fucking link there in a discrepancy of time spent with
Speaker 4: someone you know, he guessing and so Jacob you probably
Speaker 4: know this, but they did beat literally a confession out
Speaker 4: of him. Yes, And then the next day that lead
Speaker 4: investigator who was knocking his block off trying to get
Speaker 4: this confession, he uh, randomly dies of a heart attack right.
Speaker 2: Now, it's it's a mere coincidence, yeah.
Speaker 7: Right, exactly, yeah, because it's always when in.
Speaker 2: The back of the head hanging from a tree with
Speaker 2: a gun like four yards apart two like it was
Speaker 2: one of those situations.
Speaker 7: Right, tie yourself to a tree and shoot yourself with
Speaker 7: a shotgun, you know, yeah, total coincidence.
Speaker 2: Is the Harry of suicide.
Speaker 4: Guys, right yeah, he he basically knocks you know Ed's
Speaker 4: block off trying to get this confession out of him.
Speaker 4: Then he mysteriously dies of a heart attack the next.
Speaker 7: Day, right, you know, he beat that hell out of.
Speaker 4: Him, right, yeah. It's like, why is his girlfriend saying
Speaker 4: we spent twenty years together? Just kidding, it was more
Speaker 4: like six months. In the show, it actually depicts her
Speaker 4: kind of like guiding him towards necromancy and like some
Speaker 4: weird necrophilia stuff. Whether or not that part is true,
Speaker 4: we'll never know. But imagine how bad a dead, fucking, rotted,
Speaker 4: fucking nasty aspus has to now for this guy.
Speaker 2: How about that bee hole that could have been any better?
Speaker 2: Right right?
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? Look at this plain field woman nearly wedded
Speaker 4: Oh my god, is.
Speaker 2: That what you I'm getting bombarded with the ads. Fuck you,
Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos. I don't think has anything to do with it,
Speaker 2: but he might. Who knows the two responsible for everything?
Speaker 7: See, I got you.
Speaker 5: He was after a handsome woman like his mom.
Speaker 4: Look at me.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest about the situation. Is that a lady? Dude?
Speaker 2: What am I looking at? Here?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: See, here's a here's a little bit better of a
Speaker 7: photograph if you want to pull that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't the great images. It comes in a
Speaker 2: little Uh. I don't know who scanned this, but I
Speaker 2: think they did. Ah, I don't know what's going on here.
Speaker 2: It looks a little fuzzy, doesn't it.
Speaker 7: A little bit?
Speaker 4: Looks looks like somebody you find it very much like?
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know what I'm looking at? Dude? Is
Speaker 2: that a real person? Is this a real person? Hasn't
Speaker 2: even met her?
Speaker 4: I don't know how much of this is totally fictitious?
Speaker 2: I mean, right, dude, right, well, because they spend this
Speaker 2: whole narrative. I mean, I'm not trying to defend it.
Speaker 2: A guy and here's a screepy some a bit. He's
Speaker 2: obviously there some weird shit, But I'm just saying he
Speaker 2: never had a chance to defend himself. Finally, the appeals,
Speaker 2: he's in the looney bind. They burn all the evidence.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I often concern my matters with my
Speaker 2: life and concerned way to say, let me rewine. Holy smokes,
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like I might still be lost
Speaker 2: in I feel like I've been lost him up in
Speaker 2: the world all week.
Speaker 8: Hold on, folks, So so, how how are all of
Speaker 8: those little wave ripples? How are those so perfectly matching
Speaker 8: what's in the video?
Speaker 2: All the dons, all the special patterns look the same.
Speaker 2: This is like saying that my butthole is your butthole
Speaker 2: because they're similar, right, it's not being we don't have
Speaker 2: the same butthole.
Speaker 5: Because of that, you're using butthole a lot of context.
Speaker 7: You're talking about botholes making everyone feel weird.
Speaker 2: That's the point. He's that termed buttholes, making folks off
Speaker 2: feel we all weird.
Speaker 4: Here, Julia said it any better.
Speaker 2: I was saying, I have to consider myself with matters
Speaker 2: of liberty, just like these two gents to. And I'm
Speaker 2: not unlike yourself, ma'am. As far as getting to the facts.
Speaker 2: There is no get to the facts are just like
Speaker 2: ed guyin did it. We found all the ship in
Speaker 2: his house, Lock him up, throw away the key and
Speaker 2: burn it.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, how about this. I have this in my
Speaker 4: notes that and I wanted to talk to you guys
Speaker 4: about it. Wisconsin, right, satanic colts ripping and running through
Speaker 4: this area. Let's look at some similarities between Jeffrey Dahmer
Speaker 4: and Okay.
Speaker 7: Right, before we do that. This is something I think
Speaker 7: you all will find very interesting.
Speaker 2: JJ if you want to do Yeah, I see that you.
Speaker 7: Ed Gen buried at three am? What are the fucking
Speaker 7: odds of which is our man?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: Exactly?
Speaker 4: He died at seventy seven as well.
Speaker 2: Yep, maybe he's a Matchbox twenty fan from the nineties. Oh, whoa,
Speaker 2: I've been I've been doing in the nineties of my son.
Speaker 2: I've been torturing with dad jokes like that. I do apologize.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, go ahead, we're talking about satanic coltier right,
Speaker 4: buried at three am. He was seventy seven years old,
Speaker 4: like Aleister Crowley seventy seven shit right, he spent twenty
Speaker 4: seven years in the mental hospital. Yes, are these numbers
Speaker 4: not totally sticking out to you as sus as fuck.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah, all of them, all of all
Speaker 7: of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If I may be honest, there really is no difference
Speaker 2: between this man fans some folks, which is covens and
Speaker 2: Satanic colts. This is the same. These are terms used
Speaker 2: by the Satanists, and this former Satanist can correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm in correct her. But based upon the statements
Speaker 2: of one muppet, mikey Akino and his a dribble. It's
Speaker 2: just I've read so many of his books, it's absolute dribble.
Speaker 2: This guy just sat in the room smelling his own farts,
Speaker 2: probably using a typewriter because he's just as crusty old
Speaker 2: some a bitch write in these books. But what I'm
Speaker 2: and in loving every mint of those farts. He's like,
Speaker 2: oh that's a good one, you know. Just I'm just
Speaker 2: I try to put I don't imagine how even wrote this.
Speaker 2: This is bullshit. But they're always saying there's no difference
Speaker 2: between covens and witches. And you know, Lilith, his wife
Speaker 2: was doing covens and he was doing you know, Grotto's
Speaker 2: and they're all the same ship, right, So we see
Speaker 2: all this, we see all this ship in Wisconsin where
Speaker 2: they want to you know, there's probably something well we're
Speaker 2: standing colt or, which is go fuck yourselves. So there's
Speaker 2: probably a lot of this activity going on in Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, go fuck yourself?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no kidding, I mean so.
Speaker 2: Over the years though, right, it's probably just so intrenched.
Speaker 2: I apologize, man, I just got one to fish my
Speaker 2: point real quick where I lost it again. But like so,
Speaker 2: speaking of Dahmer, I said, we see these in the fifties, right, Dahmers,
Speaker 2: and in the seventies and eighties. But I'm saying this
Speaker 2: has been going on with all these cults in Wisconsin
Speaker 2: for so many years around these fucking mounds, then it's
Speaker 2: probably so entrenched in the hierarchy of authoritative structures there. Right.
Speaker 4: Well, sure, I mean I think our nation was founded
Speaker 4: by Satanic cults.
Speaker 2: I mean that's nation we're talking about, Canada.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about, JJ, You know what
Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Well, we were founded by an ancient alien cargo cult. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2: They do, in fact haunt the moon's pale beams. I've
Speaker 2: heard that in the song Somewhere.
Speaker 4: That's a good song.
Speaker 2: So as a former Satanist there, Jacob j. You know,
Speaker 2: is there a great delineation between witches, covens, satanic activity
Speaker 2: or is this commonly mute as folks kind of just
Speaker 2: bounced between the two, and they're often referred to as
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 7: Uh, I mean you kind of hit the nail on
Speaker 7: the head there. They do kind of float in between
Speaker 7: each other. Of course, if you would talk to any
Speaker 7: of them, they would say, hey, whoa, whoa, No, there
Speaker 7: there is no connection. Uh you know, we're just peaceful wickens.
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, we don't even know each other.
Speaker 7: Right, you know, ignore the fact that the person that
Speaker 7: you know invented the modern wickan uh you know, was
Speaker 7: a student of Aleister Crowley. Just steamroll over that.
Speaker 2: But right right, and so yeah, I mean that the
Speaker 2: New Age movement is very clearly you know, uh, thelemic
Speaker 2: very clearly.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean, they they do kind of float
Speaker 7: in in and out of the circles. This is, you know,
Speaker 7: to tie it back to the West Memphis three. This
Speaker 7: is why Damien Eccles kind of floats and said that
Speaker 7: he was wicking instead of saying he was a saintan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, sir, there you go, and his
Speaker 2: girlfriend was a vampire, right, and we're all fucking we
Speaker 2: all live in a fantasy world. Well, you know, be
Speaker 2: what you want to be whatever.
Speaker 7: Right, right, So I mean it is kind of yeah, right,
Speaker 7: Typically the were wolves are more intergrained with the Nazism.
Speaker 2: You ain't kidding, sir, And that was Michael's precise purpose
Speaker 2: behind that, right. The werewolf units stay behind Nazi Operation
Speaker 2: Gladio fuckers.
Speaker 7: Nicholas Nicholas Shrek you know runs Radio Werewolf you know.
Speaker 2: There you go another one.
Speaker 7: Right, and uh, Xena Levey she's also involved in all
Speaker 7: of that. Yes, yes, one right, which, by the way,
Speaker 7: when the first time I saw that, holy hell, is
Speaker 7: that spooky? Like wow?
Speaker 2: I mean I often play a game he was your daddy?
Speaker 2: What does he do? But who was her mommy? And
Speaker 2: what does she do? Because it's rud.
Speaker 7: Also, I'm I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift is a man.
Speaker 2: It was his mom and what does she do? Then?
Speaker 2: About that one?
Speaker 4: That's not the first time I've heard that. Actually, that's
Speaker 4: that's pretty crazy. And I just wanted to say. Somebody
Speaker 4: in the comment section said John Wilkes Booth was a
Speaker 4: part of that cult with Ben Franklin and a Keno.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: I just talked to a guest literally yesterday about John
Speaker 4: Wilkes Booth and how he faked his fucking death and
Speaker 4: like ran away somewhere and all that. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: it's crazy the connections.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. But what cold he referenced in here?
Speaker 2: Are they? Is this a time traveling colt because he's
Speaker 2: been lived far apart from one another time? Was?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: I don't even know. I just saw that comment, and
Speaker 4: I talked to a guest yesterday.
Speaker 2: I was talking about I'm catching up man, Now I
Speaker 2: see the comment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right here a cult with Been Franklin and a Keno.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uncle Ted, I'm interested. I'm not sure the reference
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is there a Burger element to all this? Is? Ever?
Speaker 2: Telling me?
Speaker 4: We'll another comments in there?
Speaker 2: Well, what I get is any further off topic regarding
Speaker 2: these matters. So it seems that perhaps ed Guin might
Speaker 2: have been born into this situation. Was his mother's in
Speaker 2: her cult text? Have you involved in the sort of
Speaker 2: drug sex or rock and roll in this prethlemic kind
Speaker 2: of era of Satanism? I don't know, because she was
Speaker 2: in the pre public era of at least right pre
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 4: She made herself look like she was such a what
Speaker 4: do they call it, like a devout? Uh? You know
Speaker 4: everyone all women are Harlot's and all men are this.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily disagree with that. I mean, no disrespect
Speaker 2: to present company, but I don't necessarily agree with that
Speaker 2: any point. There's a lot of mat Yeah. She Uh,
Speaker 2: guy's mom was onto something. She may have been this viewpoint,
Speaker 2: but she was onto.
Speaker 7: Something almost like she saw into the future and saw
Speaker 7: you know, the average.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, but I did want to mention really quick before
Speaker 4: I forget there. There's a chapter in Program to Kill.
Speaker 4: It's chapter sixteen. It's called the Collectors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: So these are these are the people who are mentioned, right,
Speaker 4: Leonard Lake, John Wayne Gacy, Bob Bridella, Gary Heidnik, Jeffrey Dahmer,
Speaker 4: herb Boomeister, which is a really if anybody's ever looked
Speaker 4: into that guy, it's fucking weird. And then uh, the
Speaker 4: Godfather being ed Gian there.
Speaker 2: I'm bringing it up right now. Man, how about the
Speaker 2: uh you you you mentioned. I don't disagree about Baumeister,
Speaker 2: He's very interesting, but how about shit you just said
Speaker 2: his name. To say a name again, give me a name,
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Bob Bardello. That's a very interesting case that ever
Speaker 2: laps with that BTK situation.
Speaker 4: We'll see they run in networks, right, and they are
Speaker 4: all part.
Speaker 2: Of the cults, well know each other.
Speaker 4: Look at this ship, right. Let's let's look at the
Speaker 4: similarities between Dahmer and Gian, who are both based out
Speaker 4: of Wisconsin. Taxidermy okay, collecting of body parts, using the
Speaker 4: body parts as household items, cannibalism, necrophilia, uh, not admitting
Speaker 4: to all the victims. Jeffrey Dahmer also he went down
Speaker 4: for like I think thirteen but only ever admitted to eleven.
Speaker 4: They're both out of Wisconsin. But the thing is, it's like,
Speaker 4: how many how many times are you going to run
Speaker 4: across two guys who are perpetrating almost identical fucking shit
Speaker 4: like this taxidermy using the body parts as weird household items.
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Dahmer admitted to being into Satanism. They're both into necrophilia. Uh.
Speaker 4: And at some point both Ed Gian and Jeffrey Dahmer
Speaker 4: offered their neighbors human meat as.
Speaker 2: Served up at home. Lad you ma'am you often come
Speaker 2: here with a lot of details, and I do guarantee
Speaker 2: folks will be a born burner, I do. You're blowing
Speaker 2: up my brain hole, ma'am. So uh, these matters you're
Speaker 2: describing as what I like to call the greatest common denominator.
Speaker 2: That's how I look at these kind of situations. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's how that's why I've been describing my my
Speaker 2: Satan Thursday shows of unpacking these things chronologically speaking, you know,
Speaker 2: temporarily speaking, time wise, And I've been mapping the shit out.
Speaker 2: And you see these pockets Fall River, Massachusetts, Bridgewater Triangle.
Speaker 2: They can go fuck themselves up in that region. I
Speaker 2: hope they got locked up Buffalo. I No one knows
Speaker 2: where Buffalo Jared is right now. I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not Maybe folks are safe. Maybe I'm the only
Speaker 2: one who needs to stay vigilant on those matters.
Speaker 7: I'll stay vigilant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a He's a hypnotic trans apocalypse mind
Speaker 2: controlled multi state assassin. Well noticed, wanted to be my
Speaker 2: pr rep. Dude.
Speaker 7: These people for some you know, God only knows how
Speaker 7: they're able to do this. But these people travel, you know, they.
Speaker 2: Get the the Zizzy and death cults. They're traveling fucking
Speaker 2: Carnie sometimes, but stabout them. That death cult still on
Speaker 2: the loose, that uh, Silicon Valley based AI focused h rationalists,
Speaker 2: trans apocalypse Vegan death cult, they're on the loose. They're
Speaker 2: processing too. By the way, rational stay vigilant for those folks,
Speaker 2: but also stay vigilant for lasers.
Speaker 6: There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way, I've
Speaker 6: been shot with a laser beating twice folks.
Speaker 2: Folks, they got ted twice. Stay vigilant, so the go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead. It looks like you got.
Speaker 4: Other than the laser b hole. I mean, we talked
Speaker 4: about this with Scott Peterson, right, how they framed the
Speaker 4: husband but the white and then they killed the wife. Right. Uh,
Speaker 4: but they were probably both involved in the same cult. Right,
Speaker 4: That's what we were talked about before. So like, it's
Speaker 4: the same thing here. So ed Gie and would go
Speaker 4: to his neighbor's house and be like, I shot this deer,
Speaker 4: and I have too much meat, and I just thought
Speaker 4: you could you know, you might want some. And Jeffrey
Speaker 4: Dahmer is like knocking on his neighbors at the apartments
Speaker 4: like I got this delicious pull pork sandwich for you. Like,
Speaker 4: it's like they have to offer it to other people
Speaker 4: to like induct them into some kind of weird ritualism
Speaker 4: where they're like consuming human flesh like the Book of Eli.
Speaker 7: Thinking it right, I think what it is is it's
Speaker 7: like some sort of like a almost like a Bingo
Speaker 7: card square, you know, because they're they're in all of
Speaker 7: these cults and so there it's kind of a joke
Speaker 7: amongst these sick fucks where they're like, oh, yeah, well
Speaker 7: I got my neighbor to eat you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, in the case of Jeffrey Dahmer, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, it's the they invert everything. It's the inversion. It's
Speaker 2: the degradation math, yeah, aspects of everything. Right, So, and
Speaker 2: they can deceive folks in the process that that's the
Speaker 2: fucking trifective form right there.
Speaker 4: Well think about this though, right. So it's like Edgiean
Speaker 4: is like this this gumpy like everybody loves him and
Speaker 4: he's like, you know, a sweetheart supposedly, but he's like
Speaker 4: kind of simple minded, like where where is he actually
Speaker 4: getting these ideas to do this stuff? And then like
Speaker 4: several years later, Jeffrey Dahmer in the same state is
Speaker 4: perpetrating almost identical type shit, like where are they getting
Speaker 4: these ideas of the shower?
Speaker 7: And let's let's not forget Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne
Speaker 7: Gacy attended the same bar in Chicago many many at times.
Speaker 4: Well, it's also weird too, right, like the day Jeffrey
Speaker 4: Dahmer is supposedly saved and baptized is the day John
Speaker 4: Wayne Gacy gets executed. Like there's all these weird it's
Speaker 4: it's it's part of the ritualism, in my opinion, how
Speaker 4: they do things. And oh, by the way, it just
Speaker 4: so happened to be some weird solstice when Jeffrey Dahmer
Speaker 4: got baptized and John Wayne Gacy got executed on such
Speaker 4: and such soulstice. Coincidence, Yeah, right, total coincidence. But I
Speaker 4: also think that John Wayne Gacy, and this is my
Speaker 4: opinion obviously, and I could be totally wrong, but John
Speaker 4: Wayne Gacy could have also been kind of like a
Speaker 4: finisher guy. He liked to do stuff with the dead bodies.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if he necessarily killed all those
Speaker 4: people that all those boys that.
Speaker 7: Weren't I don't think he did at all, And personally,
Speaker 7: I think he was more involved in the uh, the
Speaker 7: snuff aspect, right than anything, because the Stag film was
Speaker 7: so much a part part of his story and so right,
Speaker 7: and so I don't think that he was necessarily this
Speaker 7: grand serial killer per se. I'm sure he killed people,
Speaker 7: that that I'm sure of, but I don't, I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't think that that was his thing. I think
Speaker 7: it was the snuff thing. He got these boys in there,
Speaker 7: uh and probably got them hooked up through Philip Pasky,
Speaker 7: as my guest, because that's that's the tie to uh,
Speaker 7: John David Norman, and that that's what John David Norman
Speaker 7: was all about, right, And he ran the Odyssey Foundation
Speaker 7: and all all of these other organizations from jail. Mind you,
Speaker 7: he was able to do it while in jail, and
Speaker 7: so yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Didn't normal prison can do those things. That's fine, right.
Speaker 4: He the the one, the first Pedo Island guy. H So,
Speaker 4: so so it was.
Speaker 7: It wasn't John John David Norman, but John David Norman
Speaker 7: actually had ties to Francis Sheldon, who ran North Fox
Speaker 7: Island in Michigan, and that that was like you know
Speaker 7: that era's Epstein he was the one that ran the
Speaker 7: ran the snuff films out of Michigan. That was tied
Speaker 7: to uh oh, it was another serial killer. Uh some
Speaker 7: some county up in Michigan. There was a bunch of
Speaker 7: child killings in the eighties and.
Speaker 2: That that was all tied killers.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, same thing.
Speaker 2: In California, sir, you aready corrected Michigan.
Speaker 7: Right, So so yeah, it is. It's tied to all
Speaker 7: of these And it's just so interesting that you have
Speaker 7: all of this, you know, child sex trafficking because even
Speaker 7: though they're teenagers, their children, their babies, right, you have
Speaker 7: all this child sex trafficking, and at the same time,
Speaker 7: these serial killers just pop up in the same circles.
Speaker 7: Like that's not whincident.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm going to see. Jacob is a man
Speaker 4: after my own heart, because I look into all of
Speaker 4: this stuff and it blows my mind how it's it's
Speaker 4: kept from the public and it's portrayed in serial killer
Speaker 4: documentaries like it's one way when really it's a huge
Speaker 4: network that connects all these fuckers. And I think my
Speaker 4: opinion that Ryan Murphy has either read Program to Kill
Speaker 4: or he fucking knows about it, because he's putting a
Speaker 4: lot of pieces together. He's been putting pieces together since
Speaker 4: American horror stories.
Speaker 2: They just bragging shit, right, are these bragging about their friends?
Speaker 2: Because look who writes the book about all these matters
Speaker 2: of psycho, who starts introducing these concepts of guyd to
Speaker 2: fiction for the first time, and he's friends Hold on,
Speaker 2: behold with the fuck. I don't know if he's in ocultist,
Speaker 2: but he's friends with a bunch of occultists. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you that much.
Speaker 5: That HP Lovecraft too, right.
Speaker 2: Well, he's also friends with Forrest j Ackerman. Forest Jackrom
Speaker 2: was OG member of the Agape Lodge with Jack Parsons
Speaker 2: and l Ron Hubbard. He was the o G member
Speaker 2: of Scientology with his buddy Elron and lo and behold,
Speaker 2: he was an OG member of the Church of Satan
Speaker 2: probably in the process. Yeah, dude, he's assure you.
Speaker 7: So he has some sort of ties to intelligence then,
Speaker 7: I'm sure, right somewhere, some somewhere along the line, maybe
Speaker 7: even just for one time, for sure intelligence somewhere.
Speaker 2: Well, all those fellows are dude, right, and all those
Speaker 2: sci fi writers. So for re Ackerman was like the godfather.
Speaker 2: He's the guy who coined the term science fiction. He's
Speaker 2: he's the editor and agent for all of these guys.
Speaker 2: He's also the guy who's in the first Superman comic
Speaker 2: because Superman Ship is, in my opinion, thele mcfan fiction.
Speaker 2: And on that note, before you go, mister B. T. Wallas,
Speaker 2: do you have any plugs? I also have. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: hold your hostage there, but do you have any plugs?
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Speaker 2: Uh yes, sir, I'll put him in the show now.
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Speaker 2: you know, produce some good thoughts of all brain over there,
Speaker 2: thought provoking thoughts. That's what.
Speaker 7: You bet.
Speaker 2: You don't go nowhere? So I got you got you
Speaker 2: gotta give me one more minute here, sir, because uh here,
Speaker 2: on Fridays, I like to play my favorite game, Who
Speaker 2: is your daddy? And what does he do? And what
Speaker 2: and what did he do?
Speaker 4: Who the fuck was that?
Speaker 2: That's that's the Lord and savior Jared Leo.
Speaker 4: Letto, who was the person at the end.
Speaker 2: Oh you saw that creepy song, bitch, that's a drummer
Speaker 2: from thirty seconds to mars. That's his brother.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: The old the old guy at the ends allegedly his father.
Speaker 2: I'm not buying it.
Speaker 4: Man, Oh you're not buying.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm buying man. Looks nothing like the guy. Let
Speaker 2: me bring my picture for you in a non format.
Speaker 4: Let me see it again. I gotta figure.
Speaker 2: This is do you see? I mean? I could see
Speaker 2: his mother in him, right, I can see a lot
Speaker 2: of letters mother in him here. Now let it. Don't
Speaker 2: get confused. Don't get confused. He's a Bryant by biological
Speaker 2: name surnames Lettos, is a opted stepfather. He dies of
Speaker 2: very mysterious death himself. Though.
Speaker 4: Who is this now, Constance Metrijon.
Speaker 2: That's his mother? No, I can see Jared. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: looks a lot. Come on, that looks like Jared Letto
Speaker 2: with a wig, right right? What is going on here?
Speaker 2: I don't see any of this to be his dad?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, to.
Speaker 2: Come on, has adopted dad. That's his adopted dad. They
Speaker 2: do recognize that is indeed his adopted dad. But this is.
Speaker 4: Specially from Star Trek.
Speaker 2: Fact is that even a real guy, right, They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is Carl Letto.
Speaker 4: He's he's got a lot of Laurel Canyon connections.
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of Laurel Canyon connections, ma'am. He
Speaker 2: also loves to play Marvel and d C characters and yeah, joker,
Speaker 2: the fact that he did, he's got He's got a
Speaker 2: couple more miss he did Fight Club, for example. There's
Speaker 2: another one. He got five roles. Maybe not, it's all
Speaker 2: DC Marvel. He's got five roles. He's like, he's a
Speaker 2: very suspect character. Right.
Speaker 7: Well. The fact that he's also like a highly successful
Speaker 7: musician and actor, you know, is wild. Most people can't
Speaker 7: do both, you know.
Speaker 4: And he's having hangouts somewhere in the Laurel Canyon Mountain
Speaker 4: lookout Mountain.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 7: No, he sold it a couple of years ago, but
Speaker 7: he bought it when it was so. He bought it
Speaker 7: from whoever was running it as a rehab center, and
Speaker 7: then he turned it into a house.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: I actually watched an interview with some woman who used
Speaker 7: to clean it, and she said that there were parts
Speaker 7: of the house where they weren't allowed to go.
Speaker 5: He traded to do film studio stuff too, is what
Speaker 5: I heard?
Speaker 2: What in Sam Houston he suspects going on here?
Speaker 4: Ma'am uh yeah? And what's with the weird triangle on
Speaker 4: this kid?
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm glad you asked me, and I got that
Speaker 2: up for here right now? Hold on, boom, that's the
Speaker 2: official Jared Leto logo. You didn't know that? Come on now?
Speaker 5: Is he gonna change his name to the artist formerly
Speaker 5: known as Logo?
Speaker 2: Hey, I dude, if you want to talk about folks
Speaker 2: who wear other folks skin as a human coat, I mean,
Speaker 2: Jared let is the top of my list.
Speaker 4: I would I would definitely just put him up there.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna just tell you right now, I thought
Speaker 4: it was sus that he was even in Girl Interrupted,
Speaker 4: because that movie is all about m K. It's got
Speaker 4: Winona Ryder, it's got Angelina Jolie, it's got all this
Speaker 4: Wizard of Oz symbolism in it and who the fuck
Speaker 4: pops up and Jared Leto. Oh, and it's got Britney
Speaker 4: Murphy too.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, yeah, who would have thought the
Speaker 2: Second Coming already occurred? I mean, look at it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they always have to tell us what they're doing.
Speaker 4: Huh, exactly, method exactly. He's like a Johnny Depp though
Speaker 4: he's like a pretty guy, you know, he they and
Speaker 4: they put him out there is like, oh, look at
Speaker 4: Jared Leto, he's like this. Uh yeah, you know, he's super.
Speaker 5: Nice guys like Depp was way back in the nineties
Speaker 5: and stuff.
Speaker 4: You're right, except he's.
Speaker 7: An actual successful musician.
Speaker 2: Smirched my spiritual guru, Jared Leto.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, I'm not even judging. I'm not even judging.
Speaker 7: So I actually met.
Speaker 2: Jos though he seems like a major figure in some
Speaker 2: sort of modern day Hollywood of cultism. Right, and again, yes,
Speaker 2: you know, the way I look at it is these
Speaker 2: cult fun these cult muppets, these Hollywood cult muppets, they
Speaker 2: do like little cult pockets across America. For example, his
Speaker 2: not necessarily his associate, but another fellow assumed Thelamite who
Speaker 2: plays a lot of you know, at least played the
Speaker 2: Flash in a lot of DC films more more than
Speaker 2: once played the same character at least, right, and that
Speaker 2: is Ezra Miller in that dude literally.
Speaker 4: Starting he I saw about that guy.
Speaker 2: I saw some some commentary from some from Montian's that's
Speaker 2: not a real thing, a fellow. Uh you know Green Mountaineer,
Speaker 2: if you will. I'm not even I think I made
Speaker 2: that up. But there was someone from Bennington, Vermont there
Speaker 2: in Chat earlier, and uh, that's where Ezra Miller's cult
Speaker 2: is down there by Bennington, Vermont.
Speaker 4: He was also in uh uh they did like some
Speaker 4: kind of weird spin off of Harry Potter. It's called
Speaker 4: Gary or something. Fantastic Beasts. That's right. Yeah, was in
Speaker 4: that too. So he's always popping up in like some
Speaker 4: weird Oscaultism type ship.
Speaker 7: Uh. Why am I just blanking on his Jared Leto
Speaker 7: He was actually a regular at Aslon or a yeah
Speaker 7: or whatever. Yeah, that's yeah, Salon. Uh you know, uh,
Speaker 7: what the hell is that highway the one on one
Speaker 7: or whatever, like all the way up at the top California. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he was a regular up there for a drive.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful drive you ever get a chance to
Speaker 2: take it. I've only ever made it from San Diego
Speaker 2: to the border of Oregon. They won't let me into
Speaker 2: that state. Maybe maybe, maybe you all can take care
Speaker 2: of that. Formula Beat and Julia yes, I always get desurred.
Speaker 2: I landed in Eureka, California, and I dare I say, Eureka,
Speaker 2: I discovered the Great White or Great White Beer. No,
Speaker 2: that's not the name of it. I discovered some beer
Speaker 2: at a local brewery there that changed my life for
Speaker 2: that weekend at least, and also prevented me from getting Oregon.
Speaker 2: But is a beautiful drive you foind a beer? No,
Speaker 2: it's the Lost Coast Brewing Company in Eureka, California. It's
Speaker 2: the Great Great White. It's like a Belgian ale. I'd
Speaker 2: have a drink in years, but I discovered that time.
Speaker 2: I try to make it to Oregon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it ain't.
Speaker 2: No, Instead go to the Road Brewery.
Speaker 5: It's some good stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I appreciate that. It's a fantastic I highly
Speaker 2: recommend it. You know it's a it's a beautiful stretch
Speaker 2: of stretch of America. Dare I say, California has some
Speaker 2: beautiful stretches of America. I love California and it's not
Speaker 2: some people.
Speaker 7: It's a great state. Terrible politics.
Speaker 4: I was actually goetn to say a mini a serial
Speaker 4: killer would agree with you, JJ. I mean, there's been
Speaker 4: bodies dumped up and down the coast.
Speaker 2: For speaking of dumping things, the last few times I
Speaker 2: have been in California, all I have to do is
Speaker 2: step over human turds everywhere on the sidewalks. That's why
Speaker 2: I don't like California.
Speaker 5: San Francisco. I'm sorry Los Angeles too, dude.
Speaker 2: In December of twenty seventeen, myself and my dude Kevin
Speaker 2: and his uh, his son, little Kevin, Kevin, the little human,
Speaker 2: that's what we call him. Uh My dude Kevin named
Speaker 2: all of his kids Kevin, including his daughtery and weird.
Speaker 2: It's real weird. I don't judge, but having a little human.
Speaker 2: We were all driving through Los Angeles. We're in there
Speaker 2: for a wedding in town, and there was a home
Speaker 2: we had to intervene a home a naked, naked, homeless
Speaker 2: man was literally assaulting a I don't they must have
Speaker 2: been in from Kansas, I don't know. These folks look lost.
Speaker 2: A young couple with two young children and he's running
Speaker 2: down the street on naked and homeless. This is we were.
Speaker 2: We had initially stopped because he was shitting on the
Speaker 2: sidewalk before the onslaught of assault on this young this
Speaker 2: young family we had intervened upon. We just yelled, get
Speaker 2: away from your hobo, and he just you know, took off.
Speaker 2: He was just their hoboes. You know, it doesn't take
Speaker 2: much of the tur them usually. But anyhow, that's Los
Speaker 2: Angeles for you. I saw a hobo ship on the
Speaker 2: street in Wes West Hollywood then nearly assault a young
Speaker 2: family that had been fun to watch. Right.
Speaker 4: Well, you know this isn't a California story, but this
Speaker 4: one time I went with my family to Dallas to
Speaker 4: go to the JFK assassination. Whatever the f that's.
Speaker 2: The new California, the new Dallas Austin or the new California.
Speaker 4: There's like a little place over there where you can
Speaker 4: go to some museum and it's got like all this
Speaker 4: JFK stuff and you can like go see like the
Speaker 4: road and the Grassy.
Speaker 2: Knole and all that fascination museum. Right, yeah, Sole on
Speaker 2: the Nose for her name, right, the sixth floor. It's
Speaker 2: literally on the sixth floor. Yeah, sixth floor, right, gets muppets.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't think this of Dallas, uh, But you know,
Speaker 4: we were just walking my family and there was a
Speaker 4: homeless guy and he was just like begging for spare
Speaker 4: change or whatever the fuck he was begging for, and uh,
Speaker 4: my sister in law like went to go reaching her purse.
Speaker 4: She was actually going to give this asshole some like
Speaker 4: money or something, and he spit on her.
Speaker 2: And I was like, see that's yeah, you don't want
Speaker 2: to go they're they're not a savory bunch man. You
Speaker 2: don't want to go in here. You want to say,
Speaker 2: was about ten to twelve feet away from these type
Speaker 2: of characters. It's cenerally favorble. At least, didn't he not
Speaker 2: just have a time from.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, shitting, spitting whatever. She was gonna buy
Speaker 4: the guy fucking you know, six inch subway sub and
Speaker 4: he just spit right in her face.
Speaker 2: So that's what it was. Maybe maybe she offered a
Speaker 2: water burger. Maybe there'd have been, you know, just an outcome.
Speaker 2: I don't even like, I don't I don't go near
Speaker 2: the type. But I treat them all like wild animals people.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be dehumanized, and I'm just saying, look,
Speaker 2: let's be honest about it. You're bound to get stabbed.
Speaker 2: I try to remove myself from any environment that I'm
Speaker 2: bound to get stabbed and that's very much an.
Speaker 4: Environment or shit or spit on.
Speaker 2: I mean, there you go. I'm wanted you that either
Speaker 2: be quite honest with you don't need that my life.
Speaker 4: I do want to say though, because I think I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have to go myself here in a minute. But
Speaker 4: the whole uh sensationalism behind serial killers, I do have
Speaker 4: to say it made It's made people fear everything, right,
Speaker 4: not just homeless people. It's made people lock their doors
Speaker 4: at night. I see there, it's it's you know, it's
Speaker 4: really scary too, because mabe ma'am.
Speaker 2: That's an excellent point you just make, because you know,
Speaker 2: oftentimes we often describe things as you know, you two
Speaker 2: are just as guilty of this is himself and broader
Speaker 2: terms of saying like Operation Gladio in our conspiracy culture
Speaker 2: podcast hosting, and you know, I've actually had folks ask
Speaker 2: me like, you know, can you get this? Not they're
Speaker 2: not saying we don't, they don't understand it. They're just like,
Speaker 2: can you get to some of the finer details. Help
Speaker 2: folks understand these concepts more? But that is that's the
Speaker 2: concept right there. You nailed it, the impact of changing
Speaker 2: the way they live, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's it's total fear and domination. Because there was even
Speaker 4: a serial killer. He was called the Vampire of Sacramento.
Speaker 4: His name was Richard.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: You know, he was a sick fuck and he would,
Speaker 4: you know, practice blood drinking. He was definitely mentioned in
Speaker 4: Program to Kill. You know, he would uh do all
Speaker 4: this ritualistic stuff, but.
Speaker 7: The organs and drinking smooth.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was disgusting. But the way that he chose
Speaker 4: his victims is he would try all the doors, and
Speaker 4: whoever didn't lock their door that night, that was the
Speaker 4: invitation to get murdered.
Speaker 2: I guess yep. So it's like, go ahead.
Speaker 4: I mean, it just has instilled fear into the hearts
Speaker 4: and the minds of the general public. And I think
Speaker 4: that's part of what the serial Killer program is meant
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 7: It's like that was the whole point.
Speaker 2: To quote our nation's finest law enforcement organization, the Federal
Speaker 2: Bureau of on Investigations, those fucking muppets. The former assistant director,
Speaker 2: Thomas Flints said, when he's making a budget for a
Speaker 2: law enforcement and intelligence agency, which was literally his job
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four, when he made this statement,
Speaker 2: it's on YouTube I'll find it in a second if
Speaker 2: you need to see it. I sent it. But he
Speaker 2: said when making a budget, he said he's not gonna
Speaker 2: tell folks he solved crime and solve terrorism and whatnot.
Speaker 2: He says, his his mantra or his uh you know
Speaker 2: philosophy is keep for alive, keep it alive.
Speaker 4: That's the point. That's the point, even even with this, right,
Speaker 4: like Edgie and snown As like the godfather of the
Speaker 4: serial killers, but he's not actually a serial killer one, right,
Speaker 4: and we don't know that he even killed anybody. There
Speaker 4: you go, and it's like these networks are working in
Speaker 4: tandem to a make you scared somebody's gonna come get
Speaker 4: your kids. B Maybe they're just gonna fucking cut your
Speaker 4: puss off and wear it around the house and their
Speaker 4: mom's underwear.
Speaker 2: Maybe your beles can be victimized. You know.
Speaker 4: Well, the beetle is definitely on the table.
Speaker 7: That's that's the whole point behind mine.
Speaker 2: It was literally on ed Guine's table, Wasn't that.
Speaker 7: It sure was, It sure was. But yeah, that's that's
Speaker 7: the whole point behind mind control is fear. That's that's
Speaker 7: the easiest way for them to control the masses, which
Speaker 7: is why now we see you know, the rising the
Speaker 7: school shooter and terrorism, uh specifically homegrown terrorism, which is
Speaker 7: being you know continually, yes, sir, and it's being carried
Speaker 7: over from you know, all of the militia fear in
Speaker 7: the nineties, you know, and anything to keep us in
Speaker 7: that perpetual state of fight or flight is the best
Speaker 7: way to control the masses because then we're more suggestible.
Speaker 7: And also when when they do these things, like the
Speaker 7: way they report them is they show the terrible things
Speaker 7: and because that that actually traumatizes us, so we all
Speaker 7: get trauma bonded together, like this most recent thing with
Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk. You know, yes, the the algorithm was allowed
Speaker 7: to let that video go wild, so everyone was traumatized,
Speaker 7: and that was done in a way so we would
Speaker 7: turn around, we would be fearful, we'd be traumatized, and
Speaker 7: then the masses would be more open to you know,
Speaker 7: our saviors, the politicians that would come in and fix it,
Speaker 7: or the FBI or whatever.
Speaker 2: We got it because they got Are you saying that
Speaker 2: they don't got to say from the.
Speaker 7: Tyranney, No, no, no, no, The Federal Basketball Investigators are
Speaker 7: not going to do Jack shit to.
Speaker 2: Save us sick.
Speaker 4: Well, and think about this too, right, think about being
Speaker 4: alive in the nineteen fifties and seeing the crime scene
Speaker 4: photos that they pulled from Ed's house. Right, it's the
Speaker 4: nineteen fifties. You go to sleep with your door unlocked,
Speaker 4: you have a milkshake down at the fucking Back to
Speaker 4: the Future cafe. You know, this is how I think
Speaker 4: of the nineteen fifties, right, right, But it's like he
Speaker 4: had human face masks, he had human body suits, he
Speaker 4: had bowls in silverware made of skeletons. I mean this,
Speaker 4: I mean, how do you think?
Speaker 3: Did you?
Speaker 2: Here's my question, man, These are all excellent points with
Speaker 2: may I'll go I apologize, Go ahead, I was cutting
Speaker 2: out there. Go ahead and finish, finish.
Speaker 4: Police something, go ahead, go ahead. That I mean, that's
Speaker 4: pretty much all I was going to say about that
Speaker 4: is like the reaction of the public. It had to
Speaker 4: be crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh again, it was a fucking circus. That's a great point.
Speaker 2: And again I think this is we see the evolutions
Speaker 2: of these matters. The circus is starting there and how
Speaker 2: they evolve. But how many other people have human face masks? Right?
Speaker 2: He ain't the only one. You know. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: told about him. Everyone focus on him. He's all him,
Speaker 2: and no one asked the question, well, who the fuck
Speaker 2: who else got these face masks? Were else doing this ship?
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't want to go to you
Speaker 2: for can you have that thought for me? Stor? I
Speaker 2: don't want to go too for off topic and I
Speaker 2: do want to. I want to. I want to respond
Speaker 2: to Julie's tail about this uh fucking muppet museum in Dallas.
Speaker 2: But I'll go ahead, sir, please your statement further, just.
Speaker 7: Real quick before we move off of this. So this
Speaker 7: this is something I recently I wrote. I think I
Speaker 7: sent it to you, Jju, A piece I wrote about
Speaker 7: the mind control being used in the Charlie Kirk assassination stuff.
Speaker 7: And it's it's all about, uh, how the Charlie Kirk
Speaker 7: assassination video was pushed to traumatize the public for trauma
Speaker 7: based mind control and so that the wide the widespread
Speaker 7: dissemination of the graphic assassination video via social media algorithms
Speaker 7: fit into a deliberate strategy of trauma based mind control.
Speaker 7: Uh tb MC, I, sir.
Speaker 2: Can we can we table that? Because I think Julie
Speaker 2: is gonna have to pop smoke and then you're going
Speaker 2: to be resolving your matters here this seven, we'll be
Speaker 2: closing down on that. Can we go over that here
Speaker 2: in a moment, we'll give Julius and closing thoughts and
Speaker 2: then we'll go over that if you don't mind, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: h you guys, hold on Julia, because before you do that,
Speaker 2: we had a big day out there, big one. We've
Speaker 2: got a full moon. People are gonna be amped. All right,
Speaker 2: let's say we got on hot tips, all right?
Speaker 4: Whoa, the new bathmats are.
Speaker 2: One more thing. We've got a serial rapist and Crown Heights.
Speaker 5: Oh Jesus sorry, that's from my other job.
Speaker 2: Forget that. Well, don't ignore it. If you live in
Speaker 2: Crown Heights, you.
Speaker 4: Know way to end it. That is the perfect way
Speaker 4: to that.
Speaker 2: Rapists and Crown Nights.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, ship, he's come after.
Speaker 2: I appreciation time, man. I appreciate your the whole comments.
Speaker 2: It's always a good times here and your nicknames. Appreciate
Speaker 2: you coming back here, join us A gill GCD here
Speaker 2: I do uh when I would you believe or not?
Speaker 2: I had someone myself upon this assassination museum. You described
Speaker 2: it's m up at museum in Dallas on December fourteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, that that data sounds from there. That is
Speaker 2: the date of Sandy Hook business. I would already plan
Speaker 2: on going there that afternoon after some meetings that morning,
Speaker 2: and barks to the Air Force base at the uh
Speaker 2: the fake nuclear missile headquarters there, and it's a real headquarters,
Speaker 2: but the nuclear missiles are fake. Uh and uh. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there that morning watching that old event's unfold and
Speaker 2: then I find myself in a different false flag kind
Speaker 2: of operations there, if you will. That afternoon and I'm
Speaker 2: staying on the corner and this fella says, hey, do
Speaker 2: you want a tour of Dealey Plausa. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess who are you? Weird hobo guy
Speaker 2: looking guy, and he says, because there's doing there's it's creepy.
Speaker 2: There's literally no one on the streets in the area
Speaker 2: of town at like five o'clock in the evening because
Speaker 2: the museum closes at six, and there's a little there's
Speaker 2: none around, and there's suddenly this dude on the street
Speaker 2: next to me. I'm all right, dude, let's take it
Speaker 2: down a notch, you are you? What do you want?
Speaker 2: Because he looked like a hobo guy. I don't want
Speaker 2: to get spit on, like your like your friend there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you watch out and uh he he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a security guard at the Muppet Museum. Like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's cool. He's like, I'm dropping off a Christmas gift
Speaker 2: to my buddy. He's going on vacation. There's coworking all
Speaker 2: right on. He's like, I used to give tours of
Speaker 2: Daily Plaza. He's like I was seven years old. I
Speaker 2: was standing right here when when it occurred, I'm like, going,
Speaker 2: Fox's sake, let's do this, bud. So I'll wait for
Speaker 2: you to go drop off that gift. And he went,
Speaker 2: and he gave me a full tour of the whole place,
Speaker 2: and it was a it was an interesting experience. So
Speaker 2: I learned a lot more about it than I than
Speaker 2: I previously had known that day and from a dude
Speaker 2: he was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I still say shots came from the front.
Speaker 4: So whatever they got to say about the you know,
Speaker 4: shots from the front is all I have to say
Speaker 4: about that. Whether they can give me a tour of
Speaker 4: the window and like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie Kirk back into the left right.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I got I got mom duty calling me.
Speaker 4: I do appreciate you guys having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I hope I was able to, you know, make it
Speaker 4: worth your while.
Speaker 2: I do think that real barn burner, real bar burn Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean this stuff popping up in pop culture with
Speaker 4: these new shows, I think it's definitely worth talking about
Speaker 4: because it's not as it appears to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they keep trying to reshape the narrative, right,
Speaker 2: reframe me stories, sell us new tales, you know, and whatnot.
Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, but Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts,
Speaker 4: thank you so much guys for having me. And I'll
Speaker 4: actually probably finish listening to this episode tomorrow or whenever
Speaker 4: it's posted, so we'll see what you guys end up
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 2: Yes, man, we're gonna talk about some of Charlie Kirk stuff.
Speaker 2: It sounds like in Jacob's recent the other JJ's recent
Speaker 2: you know blog post on the matter, and I do.
Speaker 2: You will also hear that clip from Tom miss Fintes
Speaker 2: or you can stick around for twenty nine seconds if
Speaker 2: you'd like to hear it now, Sure, maybe if.
Speaker 3: You're submitting budget proposals for a law enforcement agency, for
Speaker 3: intelligence agency, you're not gonna submit your proposal that we
Speaker 3: won the war on terror and everything's great because the
Speaker 3: first thing's going to happen and your budget's going to
Speaker 3: be cut in half. You know, it's my opposite of
Speaker 3: Jesse Jackson's keep Hope alive. Let's just keep figure alive,
Speaker 3: keep it alive.
Speaker 4: What a muppet, What a muppet?
Speaker 2: They fly. I do appreciate your time. Thanks for joining
Speaker 2: us to get it or joining medi Glow, GCD and
Speaker 2: the other JJ. You're leaving us with Dueling jjs. So
Speaker 2: that's what we got, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a real pleasure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, great to meet you and uh have fun. Guys,
Speaker 4: see you next time.
Speaker 2: All right, sir, Dueling JJ's it is, let's go.
Speaker 7: So I'm I mean this this does kind of you know,
Speaker 7: of course this blog post, I wrote it about the
Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk coverage, but I mean it really does apply
Speaker 7: to almost everything, like the serial killer stuff we were
Speaker 7: talking about tonight, the school shootings, like all of this.
Speaker 7: What what it is is they're introducing mass trauma through graphic,
Speaker 7: unfiltered content, Like that's the whole point, right, and so
Speaker 7: specifically regarding the Charlie Kirk assassination, UH, the videos raw depictions,
Speaker 7: blood chaos, and Kirk's immediate collapse was optimized for platforms
Speaker 7: like TikTok, where short looping clips amplify emotional impact.
Speaker 2: Do you have your I don't have your website, sir.
Speaker 2: I can't find it the book mark. I've been lost
Speaker 2: them up at World.
Speaker 7: No, you're totally good. You're totally good.
Speaker 2: I think our initial scheduling conflicts that began this week
Speaker 2: was due to my being lost in them up at World.
Speaker 2: I said to you and invite. I sent Austin Way
Speaker 2: for card and an invite, and I failed to send your
Speaker 2: other associate, Jose and an invite. But that's you know,
Speaker 2: That's how I mean those fellows join us in here
Speaker 2: in the future, possible here for another one. I know
Speaker 2: Austin and I I've already rescheduled for UH November seventh.
Speaker 2: You're welcome to join us here, and that even like
Speaker 2: I'd like to talk to mats.
Speaker 7: Oh nazis right, right, Yeah, I would. I would love
Speaker 7: to UH to be there. I'll talk to Austin about
Speaker 7: that and whatnot. So that that would be great.
Speaker 2: He's he we we're good to go on that, Surrey.
Speaker 2: Put it on your books, come on down. But yeah,
Speaker 2: the I was hoping to get a little neckro man.
Speaker 2: Like I said, a little necromancy going on to night
Speaker 2: was frid Mormons, you know, being operations g C D
Speaker 2: live and you guys are already dead. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: figured that's a little bit of necromancy going.
Speaker 7: On, right, right, So so this is an exert.
Speaker 2: My microphone almost jumped off from the table. Yes, wrangle it,
Speaker 2: watch it, watch out.
Speaker 7: So anyone who's carrying this is my sub stack that
Speaker 7: anyone can find. It's called Beware of the mocking Bird.
Speaker 7: You know, Operation mocking Bird. You got to beware that
Speaker 7: damn mockingbird because it is out.
Speaker 2: There and it will exists, and it's probably even worse
Speaker 2: there than it wasn't you imagine, dude, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The way these things metastasize, if you will, in our society,
Speaker 2: and you know, if it's a few reporters like Dan
Speaker 2: rather back and you see the left Dan, he must
Speaker 2: have missed that one, right, yeah, back back in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty three, is a few reporters well, what is that
Speaker 2: now amongst their social media times or TikTokers or YouTube's,
Speaker 2: you know, all these matters.
Speaker 7: Right exactly. And that's that's kind of the problem, because
Speaker 7: all of this stuff is just way more amplified. So
Speaker 7: here here in the blog post, here in the section,
Speaker 7: it's talking about the release of the video itself because
Speaker 7: we all saw it, whether we wanted to or not.
Speaker 7: Like we all saw it, and we had no choice
Speaker 7: in the matter, and that was intentional. So right here.
Speaker 7: Number two, inducing mass trauma through graphic, unfiltered content. The
Speaker 7: videos raw description, blood chaos, and Kirk's immediate collapse was
Speaker 7: optimized for platforms like TikTok, where short looping clips amplify
Speaker 7: emotional impact. This aligns with trauma based mind control tactics.
Speaker 7: Sudden visceral trauma causes psychological disassociation where the mind checks
Speaker 7: out to cope, leaving individuals more open to subconscious programming.
Speaker 7: Conspiracy narratives frame this as a ritual sacrifice. Broadcast for
Speaker 7: imprinting flags, intel symbols, and preloaded family photos in coverage
Speaker 7: subliminally reinforced narratives of division, example left versus right. Mental
Speaker 7: health concerns surge post release with reports of anxiety and
Speaker 7: decentralized or desensitization. But the syop's goal is deeper. Traumatized
Speaker 7: publics become fragmented, less likely to unite against systemic issues
Speaker 7: like donor influence or foreign meddling in Kirk's death by
Speaker 7: making trauma viral, controller's test and normalized violence, eroding empathy,
Speaker 7: and priming for future ops. So I mean, granted, like
Speaker 7: I said, I wrote this about the Kirk coverage, However
Speaker 7: it applies to all of it because it's the exact
Speaker 7: same tactics being used over and over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I was about to say, I was rooting
Speaker 2: around my brain hole with those ideas you were just describing,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, dude, this is literally the same
Speaker 2: framework we see time and time again, right.
Speaker 7: And that's kind of why I wrote this too. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's the Kirk thing was because it's you know, it's
Speaker 7: in the front of everyone's mind and everyone's talking about it.
Speaker 7: But these are the same tactics to literally anything. So
Speaker 7: just real quick, the last little bit I thought would
Speaker 7: be important here is the strategy weaponizes social media as
Speaker 7: a weapon of mass psychological warfare, turning a single event
Speaker 7: into a tool for collective conditioning. If true, it's a
Speaker 7: test of how far trauma can be scaled digitally to
Speaker 7: enforce control without overt force. And this is the things
Speaker 7: that we've all got to be on the lookout for.
Speaker 7: So even if you don't watch mainstream media anymore.
Speaker 2: We're being ops here, Bud, Yeah, on lookout for sy ops.
Speaker 6: And like there's thousands of Americans out there. By the way,
Speaker 6: I've been shot with a laser beam twice.
Speaker 2: Yes, JJ, they got toed twice. Watch out. So he
Speaker 2: was a king of syops.
Speaker 7: He loves right, he sure did, he sure did, And
Speaker 7: I mean got shot twice.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, I've been trying to get down
Speaker 2: to brass tacks of what how that may have occurred?
Speaker 2: I might be onto something, but please continue, sir.
Speaker 7: Well that's kind of just it, you know, all of
Speaker 7: this stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: I I do think serial killers probably would have like
Speaker 7: occurred naturally. I think there's like a lot of things
Speaker 7: that kind of lead to this.
Speaker 2: But well, it was that point I may I may
Speaker 2: serve real quick, they may have occurred naturally, but how
Speaker 2: do they perpetrate naturally? Right?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: It was definitely I so my personal opinion kind of
Speaker 7: just building on the program to kill theory. I think
Speaker 7: they took something that was happening, that happening naturally, but
Speaker 7: in very low numbers.
Speaker 2: You see that today. That's a great point there. We
Speaker 2: see that today with this trans apocalypse exactly.
Speaker 7: So they're taking something that's kind of happening naturally through society,
Speaker 7: and then they amplify it by these tactics that they
Speaker 7: learned through MK Ultra and other similar programs.
Speaker 2: And electronic controls and ship too. Because again, yes, all
Speaker 2: this trans apocalypse stuff had some out there's some I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not I'm not a doctor, sir. I'm also
Speaker 2: not the vice president. I won't begin to understand these matters.
Speaker 2: But I will say that there's some some sort of
Speaker 2: electronic warfare involved with it, Rightio games is always, discord
Speaker 2: is always I just get down to what are the
Speaker 2: greatest common denominators, if you will, and you know there's
Speaker 2: always discorders. You know, there's some very specific elements it
Speaker 2: seems to scream some sort of electronic warfare being involved,
Speaker 2: whether it's through the flicker rates or the patterns in
Speaker 2: the video games. I don't know these things I'm not
Speaker 2: a doctor, sir.
Speaker 7: Right, well, and that's exactly what's happened. M mk ultra
Speaker 7: has gone digital. You know, I know they don't even
Speaker 7: have to pull you into a scary location to program
Speaker 7: you anymore. They just have to do it through your phone,
Speaker 7: you know. They they target a specific type of person
Speaker 7: and then that's it. Once they got their claws and
Speaker 7: you boom.
Speaker 2: Well because some of them, yeah, that's a great point,
Speaker 2: because some of them experiments we're talking about in this
Speaker 2: MK ultra another broader programs more to it. They did,
Speaker 2: in fact, when I say they might have been them
Speaker 2: folks that got ted with them lasers, but they did,
Speaker 2: in fact determined that they can. They got them, sir.
Speaker 2: I think I may have. I don't know. If I
Speaker 2: mentioned this, I may have found the source before I
Speaker 2: finished my point. Let me let me get to that.
Speaker 9: One simple request, and that is to have sharks with
Speaker 9: freaking laser beings attached to their heads.
Speaker 7: Notice how he got so multiple laser.
Speaker 2: Bands they got, they got, they got him twice of
Speaker 2: them sharks, I think. But yeah, I think what we're
Speaker 2: looking at. I mean love, I love shitting on Ted.
Speaker 2: It's great. It's one of my favorite pastimes here Operations
Speaker 2: g c D the what was I saying, I've done last?
Speaker 2: I got so much enjoyment out of shitting on Ted.
Speaker 2: What was I saying?
Speaker 7: You were talking about the MK ultra of being digitalized
Speaker 7: and how they can target us with without pulling us
Speaker 7: into these locations program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, thank you sir. I once again, while you
Speaker 2: were describing that, I got lost once again in mupple
Speaker 2: world because I was trying to find this boom lasers.
Speaker 7: Such a fucking muppet.
Speaker 2: So the studies and experiments of these spooky natures they did.
Speaker 2: They did, in fact looking at some of it. I
Speaker 2: looked at some of it, and what I could discern
Speaker 2: is they understood the flicker rates and all these other
Speaker 2: matters of light and the flickerate of the light and the
Speaker 2: beaming of these messages, the ability to subvert the conscious
Speaker 2: natures of the brain with some of this imagery and
Speaker 2: the flicker rations and whatnot, to subvert consciously, that you
Speaker 2: can implant things subconsciously, and this ship was these were
Speaker 2: known nomes, if you will. I mean, when we're talking
Speaker 2: here at Operation GCDs are talking about psychopaths, I like
Speaker 2: to get myself in the brain, whatble psychopaths?
Speaker 9: As we know there are known nomes, there are things
Speaker 9: we know we know, we also know there are known
Speaker 9: unknown So that is to say, we know there's some
Speaker 9: things we do not know, but they're also unknown unknowns.
Speaker 9: The ones we don't know, we don't.
Speaker 2: I love the Muppet. So thes we know about knowing
Speaker 2: is that they do know these things. And then we
Speaker 2: can see how these things are being applied in video games.
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder, here's an unknown unknown, sir, what
Speaker 2: the fuck was Jeffrey Epstein doing funding video games?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 7: Right? Well, you know, well, once again the revelation of
Speaker 7: the method, you know, as as I'm going down these
Speaker 7: rabbit holes become more and more apparent. And all you
Speaker 7: have to do is just look at the things that
Speaker 7: they call, you know, these devices and everything. So tell
Speaker 7: a vision, it's telling a vision. They're channels because you're
Speaker 7: channeling something, and it's programming because you're being programmed. Right,
Speaker 7: These are not these are not named coincidentally, you know
Speaker 7: my favorite quote from David McGowan, how many coincidences does
Speaker 7: it take to make a conspiracy? And they're all coincidences,
Speaker 7: you know, and it's I don't believe in coincidence anymore.
Speaker 7: There is no coincidence. In my opinion, a genuine coincidence
Speaker 7: would would be so mathematically astronomical that if they do happen,
Speaker 7: it would be so rare. I guarantee most people have
Speaker 7: never experienced a genuine coincidence, sir.
Speaker 2: I'm not a coincidence. There's how they got ted. They
Speaker 2: got ted, sir, They got.
Speaker 7: At least at least twice.
Speaker 2: So, and here we see the epicenter of electronic warfare,
Speaker 2: psychological operations and fucking satanism with this, this fucking muppet
Speaker 2: with Colonel John Alexander and Michael Lokeena who his wife
Speaker 2: and her? And these two, these two muppets, this lady
Speaker 2: and this lady Lilith and John Alexander's wife, they claim
Speaker 2: to be sisters. I found no evidence of such. But
Speaker 2: this is the Skinwalker ranch aviary. Psychological alien warfare nonsense. Hey,
Speaker 2: the aliens in Nevada like the eat strawberry ice cream.
Speaker 2: Not sure if you're aware of that. That's this guy
Speaker 2: and these two pal These guys are like brothers, right,
Speaker 2: like brother in laws if you will, or to their wives.
Speaker 2: So therefore we see the epicenter of Satanism and Cargo
Speaker 2: Colt style with the temple said if you will there
Speaker 2: and his full blown US Army alien business skinwalker, et cetera.
Speaker 7: Right, I mean it makes sense.
Speaker 2: They all fucking know each other, sir.
Speaker 7: Right, right, they're all intermarried, They're all related, you know.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. This is the Intelligence Officers Whoop and Intelligence
Speaker 2: Officers Banquet, October two thousand and nine. Is he he
Speaker 2: is wearing? Yeah, here's the deal, Bud. He does, in
Speaker 2: fact believe he is the Duke of Argyle, the rightful
Speaker 2: Duke of Campbell. He claims to be from. I haven't
Speaker 2: played a game yet with who was. We're not sure
Speaker 2: who his daddy is and what her right, but according
Speaker 2: to him, he's a he's a claim Campbell.
Speaker 7: I somehow doubt that. I somehow doubt it.
Speaker 2: I mean, here's I had that a lot of things
Speaker 2: about that guy. I'm gonna need to see some level
Speaker 2: of evidence that he passed any sort of physical fitness
Speaker 2: exam ever, let alone a US Army Special Forces exam.
Speaker 2: I assure you, sir, I've not done the US Army
Speaker 2: Special Forces exam. I did, in fact pass the US
Speaker 2: Army Ranger test physical fitness situation, and it's not easy.
Speaker 2: So that my motherfucker that pass or didn't pass anything, sir.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I can. I can confidently say that as well.
Speaker 7: I'm sure he did not.
Speaker 2: There's three things in this world. I'm certain, and I'm
Speaker 2: certain there's no way shape or for him he passed
Speaker 2: any physical faitess exam little the US Army Special Forces training.
Speaker 2: And I'm also quite certain that Ted Gunnerson is full
Speaker 2: of shit. Now, he may or may not have been
Speaker 2: shot by a lasers.
Speaker 6: That's inconclusive, right, There's thousands of Americans out there, by
Speaker 6: the way, I've been shot with a laser beating twice.
Speaker 2: They got they they got them twice. Focused. Now I
Speaker 2: imagine the scenario. They're in the intelligence officers banquet and
Speaker 2: world there where syr to the mid Ots where Ted
Speaker 2: Gunderson is accompanied by his domestic partner, one Diane Hegerty,
Speaker 2: co founder of the Church of Satan. That's the thing,
Speaker 2: and h at that time at the same time as
Speaker 2: that photograph of these other muppets, and they're just hanging
Speaker 2: out with John Alexander. Pardon me, sir, Oh goodness, gracious,
Speaker 2: what's going on right now. Goodness, pardon me and John Alexander,
Speaker 2: Michael Ako, they all they're all the banquet wearing kills together, dude,
Speaker 2: probably jamming things up each other's butts. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean that that is a common thing that they
Speaker 7: usually talk about and has been levied against them. So
Speaker 7: if they're shoving things up each other, but I would
Speaker 7: not be surprised in the least.
Speaker 2: You know, Ted made his entire career on investigating things
Speaker 2: and then try to tell the world, Oh, I'll help
Speaker 2: with the Satanism, so he said, Satanist. We don't hear
Speaker 2: about Satanism. Get the fuck out of your Ted.
Speaker 7: You know what's interesting about Ted too, because I mean,
Speaker 7: my official opinion about Ted is that he was a genuine,
Speaker 7: like a to B disinformation agent. So the things go right, right,
Speaker 7: and so a lot of the things he said were true,
Speaker 7: but then there were just enough things that were wrong
Speaker 7: or factually inaccurate that led people astray, which is the
Speaker 7: whole point, right, A disinformation agent does have to spew truth,
Speaker 7: but just with a little bit of little bit of
Speaker 7: a factual inaccuracy. And so there's a lot of things,
Speaker 7: you know, especially about the Satanism stuff that is true.
Speaker 7: It's crazy. You can go through and a lot of
Speaker 7: it's true. And you know, I've over the years, I've
Speaker 7: used his stuff for some of my research, you know,
Speaker 7: obviously with a grain of salt, because well he's a
Speaker 7: disinformation agent, but uh, there is a lot of truth
Speaker 7: in what he says, and it's kind of just interesting. Like,
Speaker 7: for instance, the the archaeology report that the parents of
Speaker 7: McMartin got. He wasn't involved at all, but somehow he
Speaker 7: got word and just showed up that day. You know,
Speaker 7: it's just trying to trying to put a lid back
Speaker 7: on that thing real quick.
Speaker 2: He shagged the whole man, go ahead, I'm cutting out
Speaker 2: over here, going.
Speaker 7: Sir, well, you're you're totally right.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: He was just trying to shitcoat the whole thing and uh,
Speaker 7: you know, by showing up is trying to discredit it actually.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: And it was incredibly interesting because I mean he actually failed.
Speaker 7: Other other than the fact that people don't know about it,
Speaker 7: I mean, you haven't.
Speaker 2: Treated any victims Mother's home. Jackie mcgaully violated the ship.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's trying to do her, but
Speaker 2: Violet shit ever financially, I've been ever taken by the communists.
Speaker 4: Got it together, Go.
Speaker 2: Way, go home, come pigs. Sorry, I'm late. Who goes there?
Speaker 2: Henry Himmler?
Speaker 4: What Clavin claimed?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: California? Clavin Cucamonga, California. Yeah, I just passing through town
Speaker 2: and uh, looking for something to do this evening. There
Speaker 2: was nothing going on at the roadway club. I heard
Speaker 2: about this. Well, welcome, Henry. I'm the grand legal, oh
Speaker 2: California thing. Pig face scum. Tay Guennerdson is a pig
Speaker 2: face gum. So, after Jackie mcgully hires the fucking archaeological
Speaker 2: team her and four other parents, uh she from the
Speaker 2: McMartin victims, he takes other parents from the victims other
Speaker 2: because he's infiltrated the scene through Jackie mcgully, So he
Speaker 2: meets all these other parents who did not report, were
Speaker 2: not part of the four parents that hired the team,
Speaker 2: but their children had been victimized. He takes those parents
Speaker 2: to the scene the day before the archaeological team shows
Speaker 2: up to start ther dig and they take them with
Speaker 2: shovels in the La Times, right, that's Ted Gunderson.
Speaker 7: Man, It's so obvious, at least in my opinion.
Speaker 2: It is well in hindsight, right, I mean, at least
Speaker 2: fair hindsight. We have the availability of time information, and
Speaker 2: we're also not being currently shot at by lasers. It's
Speaker 2: a different time now.
Speaker 7: We have less lasers, right, less lasers, and there's not
Speaker 7: one definitely not two, dude.
Speaker 2: Luckily. I don't know about you, sir, but I maintained
Speaker 2: a couple of pairs of my Mormon underwear does protect
Speaker 2: you against knife attacks, some nuclear weapons, and indeed lasers.
Speaker 7: So you did not know that multiple laser attacks?
Speaker 2: Wow? Well, I mean you can much like any kind
Speaker 2: of other armors, only because it's gonna sustain so much
Speaker 2: damage you're gonna have to replace at some point. You
Speaker 2: should be get with two attacks of lasers.
Speaker 7: Well, hey, I I hate to cut it short, but
Speaker 7: I do gotta say, are you my brain?
Speaker 2: Holdser I know your name is JJ, but you my brain?
Speaker 2: How's about to say? I appreciate your time, sir. Let's
Speaker 2: bring in for landy. I know you gotta I know
Speaker 2: you gotta go here. I appreciate your time to of
Speaker 2: course again for joining me GILW G C D. And
Speaker 2: you're gonna be back on Wednesday, along with actually Cosic
Speaker 2: Peach as well.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, that's uh, you know, guys are getting your
Speaker 7: fill of JJ and JJ wet dueling.
Speaker 2: JJ's again, dude coming up Wednesday and the next Fridays.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaking, sir.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, so I will be back so those nights
Speaker 7: I'll be able to hang out as uh as long
Speaker 7: as we need for those nights.
Speaker 2: And this was your suggestion for this film. And the
Speaker 2: Cosmic Peach is also super stoked about it. And it's
Speaker 2: the love affair of Michael Myers and his sister.
Speaker 7: Yes, which is incredibly weird. That's how the story starts. Uh,
Speaker 7: you know, Michael Myers murders his sister and uh you
Speaker 7: know kind of loses his mind from there and then
Speaker 7: you know, become the Shadow, the Boogeyman, you know every
Speaker 7: story right, So yes, thank you all, Thank you all
Speaker 7: for having me back and being being so awesome in
Speaker 7: the chat and everything. I always love checking everything out. Also,
Speaker 7: I saw Bobo make a comment earlier that communists are
Speaker 7: not people, and he is right.
Speaker 2: There, actually indeed not people. Don't I miss the comment.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I like the comment.
Speaker 7: They are government property, not people.
Speaker 2: They are indeed muppets, sir, they're all saving the muppet world.
Speaker 2: Speaking of that operation, GCD Sundays here nine thirty pm
Speaker 2: Eastern Standard Times, six degrees of the processed Church closed.
Speaker 2: They told me it closed in nineteen seventy four. Sir, we'ren't.
Speaker 2: First of all, we're in your forty five plus of
Speaker 2: a panic. I'm paying right. You can hear more about
Speaker 2: that tomorrow night, nine thirty pm Eastern Standard Times, with
Speaker 2: the adventures and tales of this fucking muppet Mikey. I'll
Speaker 2: make sure be in the chat for that one, Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: and uh and and uh. Of course his pal laser
Speaker 2: tag ted.
Speaker 6: There's sounds of Americans out there. By the way, I've
Speaker 6: been shot with a laser beam twice.
Speaker 2: Watch your six folks, stay vigilant. We'll catch you next time.
Speaker 2: Thank you again, sir for joining me gi little GCD,
Speaker 2: and thank you folks of the interwebs.
Speaker 7: TCD catch me anywhere. Rise to Liberty, Beware of the
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Speaker 2: So check those out, Yes, sir, and I will have
Speaker 2: your links in the show notes for folks of the interwebs,
Speaker 2: check out and check out more dueling JJ's coming up soon. Yes,
Speaker 2: any closing thoughts, statements, alibis, or baking recipes.
Speaker 7: No baking recipes at this time. I've got to find
Speaker 7: a good one. But just be on the lookout for
Speaker 7: this stuff because we literally live in the disinformation age,
Speaker 7: the post truth era. We are literally really in fifth
Speaker 7: generation warfare, and they are trying to take all of
Speaker 7: us down. So just be on the lookout for all
Speaker 7: of these tactics. Uh, you know, people like yes sir,
Speaker 7: me and other JJ and plenty of other great people
Speaker 7: are trying to expose these things to make it harder
Speaker 7: for them to be able to do this. So make
Speaker 7: sure and soak up the good information why you can,
Speaker 7: yes sir.
Speaker 2: Being a lookout for those tactics, and be on the
Speaker 2: lookout for the lasers. They got ted twice. Folks, stay
Speaker 2: eventualan you always you are the movie made Take your
Speaker 2: chances were on bo.
Speaker 3: Say you.
Speaker 4: Are stand you you are nothing. They wear shag yourself.
Speaker 1: Your people you made speaking boots up brock boots.
Speaker 4: Say do not chance it.
Speaker 1: You've been.
Speaker 4: Scot you lose yourself.
Speaker 1: No, not the bag.
Speaker 4: Say there's nothing reason to.
Speaker 1: Gave everywhere a chance.
Speaker 2: Your te