WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see somethings going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What what's gonna happen? 3 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:13.000 I'll take one? 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:22.719 What help? 5 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:27.800 Well? What's up? Everybody? Back again with another mail bag. 6 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:29.399 I got my partner Nick here. 7 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:29.640 Nick. 8 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:31.760 Tell them how you doing? Tell them what's going on? 9 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:34.240 Tell them what's what's happening in your world? 10 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:35.960 What is going on? How are you well? 11 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.240 First off, thank you for thank you for having me on. 12 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:39.920 What was love doing the show? 13 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:43.119 I guess some new things. We have got free stickers. 14 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:43.719 There we go. 15 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.920 Guys want stickers, got free ones. Sorry, the light's kind 16 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.560 of fucking it up. I got free stickers. Anybody wants 17 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:52.759 free stickers, email me or hit me up on Twitter 18 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:56.520 and or Instagram. We also got t shirts now one 19 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.520 of these, one of the shirt like that and the 20 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:01.119 one with that silent rainbow was the twenty five dollars 21 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:01.679 each shipped. 22 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:03.640 And there is events that the. 23 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.920 Occult Rejects will be at, and I do have some 24 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:08.239 that are finally confirmed. 25 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:09.239 I had a bunch of women. 26 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:11.799 One of them got canceled, so I'm glad I wasn't 27 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:16.079 telling everybody about that. One October fourth, there's a bigfoot 28 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:19.680 thing and that's at the factory in Franklin, North Carolina. 29 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.920 It's like amusement park actually inside and you did things 30 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:28.079 gonna be inside, there'd be pretty Yeah, they have rooms 31 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:30.000 that think are rent them stuf. It should be pretty interesting. 32 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:34.239 Then October eighteenth, Charlie's Beyond Belief at the Tropical Lodge 33 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.879 and Fort Myers. They'll be at the Masonic Lodge out there, 34 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.120 and we got booth thirty three just to go along 35 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:41.760 with the Masonic Lodge, you know, of course we have to. 36 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:45.400 And Brook from Dark Florida, who's part of the Occult Rejects, 37 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.120 will be there and she's one of the speakers and 38 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.519 hopefully hopefully Thinker's Crossed I will be able to record her, 39 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.680 uh you know, her whatever, her lecture and hopefully put 40 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:58.159 it up online for everybody as well. Then October twenty 41 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:01.560 fifth to the twenty sixth we got at Arkansas Paranormal 42 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:03.640 Expo and that is in Little Rock, Arkansas. 43 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:05.480 We will have a booth deaf for two days. 44 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.599 And then there's another one that's for sure that's at 45 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:12.039 November twenty second, that is a UFO thing and that 46 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.639 is in Mooresville and North Carolina. Basically Charlotte and will 47 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:20.039 be at the Army National Guard, so interesting. 48 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.240 Yeah, maybe they got some UFOs over there they go 49 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:23.199 in the shows. 50 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:26.400 But uh yeah, yeah, that's the new new shit. Uh 51 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.080 free free stickers. We got T shirts and events, so 52 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:30.879 that's what's up. 53 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.360 How could they get the free stickers? 54 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:35.919 They just got to hit me up, hit me up, 55 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:40.599 send me their info and yeah on Instagram, Twitter, or 56 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:42.560 I mean, somebody wants to send me an email. I 57 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.439 check my emails on Ny Patriot nineteen seventy eight at 58 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:46.960 gmail dot com. 59 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:50.000 Yes, right, well, I don't know about the audience, but 60 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:53.520 my town is fully tagged up everybody. 61 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:55.560 Yeah, I sent you a lot of them. Actually, did 62 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:57.080 I send you them a few times? Because I think 63 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:58.439 you're like, yeah, I'll take some more. And I was like, 64 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.599 fuck the them on your OUTE when you're out driving. 65 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:06.319 Right, there's a lot of esoteric stickers in places that 66 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:11.000 maybe people shouldn't go. But those are the people we 67 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:18.439 weren't watching this show. So I was in bed. It's 68 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:21.560 been a while. My cell phone service went out and 69 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.719 the Wi Fi here is total garbage. So I had 70 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:26.520 to go back to the cell of the store and 71 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.560 get that all fixed. And that's why we're doing a 72 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.319 late show a day early. 73 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.960 Oh yeah, yeah, you're right, A late show a day early? 74 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.879 Yeah? Fuck? How do we fuck that up? Actually? Yeah, shouldn't. 75 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:49.879 I should have done it tomorrow. Sorry, we will do 76 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.039 one Sunday to catch up with something I don't know. 77 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.360 Yeah, well I gotta trialogue, I gotta make up and 78 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.360 everything else. And I missed all those great shows this week. 79 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.759 I actually checked for your try dialogue. I was like, yo, 80 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:02.599 let me see if my boys, and I was like, fuck, 81 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:04.039 I didn't even do his trialog today. It was like 82 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:05.800 something else to be up with that Internet, But I 83 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:06.439 actually checked. 84 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:15.319 Yeah, so, hey, did you happen to uh notice that 85 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.399 the hand episode is dropped on audio, So now we've 86 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:23.319 got the symbolic hand episode that people can go listen to. 87 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:26.279 It's still banger, It's so it's so great how all 88 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:30.279 these different pieces come together while we're doing that episode. 89 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:30.839 I think it was. 90 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.199 Yeah, no, I really enjoyed that. Actually, yeah, we got 91 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.720 into another another episode. We got to get the feet yo. 92 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:39.920 That is actually that is a thing. I remember. I've 93 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:41.680 even brought that up. What's up with them always sticking 94 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:43.040 their foot out underneath this ship? 95 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.040 Doing that on purpose? That isn't like you know, I 96 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:46.519 don't know. 97 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:56.399 Right, they're not for this, but yeah, we gotta do 98 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:00.199 symbolic of the feet and maybe legs too, because there's 99 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.480 so much in Greek pathology about the legs. Uh, do 100 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:04.279 you have your. 101 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:07.920 Yeah? Yeah, if you want to pull it up, I have. 102 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:13.120 Oh you know what, I gotta present my present. I'm 103 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:18.519 slipping here, I'm slipping. Yeah, you saw that. What's up 104 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:22.959 with the feet? What's in the box. Let's start with 105 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:29.079 the feet, all right? So that is the hexafoil aka 106 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:31.720 the disney wheel or daisy wheels or a daisy wheel 107 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:36.600 and his compress drawn a rosette of six interlocking lenses, 108 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:41.120 a six pedaled flower, often inscribed on stone, timber, and plaster, 109 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:44.759 and it's a It shows up in medieval contexts in 110 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:48.480 a few ways. One is a Gothic architectural motif, and 111 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:52.959 windows and tracery, and as a appo troupe. I don't 112 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:54.959 even know if I'm saying that right, A protective mark 113 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:59.680 scratched by masons and householders at doors, fireplaces, and vulnerable 114 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:04.879 spot to turn away harm. When do they think it 115 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:10.879 first showed up? They think antiquity. The six pedal rosette 116 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.360 is documented as a decorative motif since at least the 117 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.879 Late Bronze Age and reappears through the Iron Age and 118 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:24.959 Roman periods geometric and that's the geometric patterns for that one. 119 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:29.000 The medieval adoption by the twelfth to sixteenth centuries, hexafoil 120 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:33.040 is a standard of vocabulary in Gothic architecture. Again it's 121 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:37.480 on stone, tracery, cloister, stained glass framing. You can literally 122 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:42.079 find hexafoil panels and frames in major medieval churches and manuscripts, 123 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:48.319 for example, the Italian church facades. You'll see them San 124 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:53.319 Dominico whatever at Lucera around the thirteen hundreds, that has 125 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:56.959 it all over it. Yeah, it has preserved cut stone 126 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:01.279 hexafoils in it. It also used as protective ritual mark 127 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.519 in Britain. In parts of Europe, compass drawing hexafoils, often 128 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:10.720 called witch marks today are wildly recorded on late medieval 129 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:14.360 and especially Tudor or early Modern fabric around the sixteenth 130 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:18.519 and seventeenth centuries frequently, and they're frequently on buildings that 131 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:23.240 themselves are medieval. Whereas it has been been seen and 132 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:27.879 used again in churches and kind of medieval sites. It's 133 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:33.120 been seen in Portuguese cathedrals also as well, again on fabric, 134 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.800 and what does it mean. It's kind of a protective thing. Again, 135 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:43.040 they describe hexofoils as marks toward off evil or demons. 136 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:48.000 It's kind of, you know, sometimes associated with witchcraft or 137 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.680 even considered almost like a like goes along with the 138 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.519 evil eye, something kind of like that to get rid 139 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:59.480 of spirits, cosmological or solar or storm associations. Some scholars 140 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:02.079 read that rosette as they read the rosette as a 141 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:06.800 solar emblem or a thunderwheel linked to Indo European storm gods. 142 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:07.959 This is a. 143 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:13.319 Scholarleer to interpretation rather than a single medieval doction, just 144 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.319 to let people know that. And there's in Britain the 145 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:23.000 hexafoil often appears alongside Marian monograms, so something maybe up 146 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:27.000 with that too, And h yeah, I think that's a 147 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:28.040 pretty much enough. 148 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:32.480 That flower of life type motif really picked up from 149 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:37.679 the hexafoil, right, so, yes, right, So they kind of 150 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:42.320 rebranded and relabeled the hexafoil as this flower of life 151 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.159 thing in the nineteen seventies because this guy went over 152 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.279 to Egypt and he found it one of these ruined 153 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:51.200 Egyptian temples and he brought it back and he's like, 154 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:52.960 this is the flower of life. He could be found 155 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:55.759 all over the world, and he starts naming him off 156 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:57.960 and this is where we have that mythology today. But 157 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.200 the hexafoil in that case, they went to the place 158 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.360 he was talking about and they found it. It was 159 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:09.279 actually graffiti, Christian graffiti over top of the hieroglyphics that 160 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.960 were there originally. So what the guy was seeing was 161 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:18.039 actually a heck sign and so sincofoil, heck sigde. It's 162 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:19.919 all sort of in that same male u. So it 163 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:25.440 really is you know, Late Bronze Age originated, but it 164 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.440 was done by the Christians on the temples of the 165 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:29.480 Late Bronze Age. 166 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:32.480 Yeah, it was. 167 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:37.919 Even people are even saying in the chat this stuff. 168 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:39.879 I'm even thinking about it now. Even when I went 169 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:45.159 to fuck I think DC in Nashville, those scenes were 170 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:46.879 on like, oh you remember, I think those scenes were 171 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.960 on a lot of buildings that I filmed, just like 172 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.080 you know, it looked a little bit more artistic, but yeah, 173 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:53.120 those things are on everything. 174 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:54.440 If you think about it, a lot of shit, they 175 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:55.240 aren't a lot of shit. 176 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.600 Well, i'd have to measure it. But I think I'm 177 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:03.720 seeing ratios there that can be used in architecture. So 178 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:05.919 they said it can be drawn with the compass. I 179 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.279 wonder if this is like at the basis of how 180 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.440 they measure out and create the beams for the structure. 181 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.360 So as you would connect those lines on the inside, 182 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:21.039 you would also be calculating the archways and things like that, 183 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.279 using this sort of symbol as the basis point for 184 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:29.000 what your measurement should be when you're making these fantastic things. 185 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:31.399 Because I didn't think they were working off blueprints, you know, 186 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.879 the same way we do. They had to kind of 187 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:36.440 wing it and understand what the ratios would be so 188 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.360 that the structure sticks together and actually resonates at a 189 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:44.279 certain frequency. So using rosette like that or some other 190 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:52.080 geometric figures and using the interior line work, I guess 191 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.480 you could actually calculate the width and depth and height 192 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.559 of the structure. So there's a lot that you know. 193 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:04.519 I mean, I think it goes goes into the whole 194 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.639 fractal idea. You could turn that into sort of like 195 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:10.759 the basis point, and then all of the things off 196 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.759 of it are like fractals kind of like the pentagram. 197 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:18.519 Yeah, yeah, you know it's another thing too, Like even 198 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:23.600 like you were saying before, when I saw that that image, well, 199 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:25.480 when I first like went to start looking for images, 200 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:28.320 obviously a Wikipedia just seems so we show up a lot, 201 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.480 you know, images on things if they have them. So 202 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:32.000 when I clicked on the image, it brought me there 203 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.720 and I noticed that, like what you were saying down 204 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:36.840 below it, it was showing how you got into like almost 205 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:41.240 that sacred geomedy geometry fractal shit from that, right, yeah, 206 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:42.960 and like same exact thing that you said. 207 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:43.559 You'll see it. 208 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.039 Actually done on Wikipedia, showing you how I went from 209 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:46.600 there to there. 210 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:56.720 Right. So, Candice Owen's has a kind of cemented a 211 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:00.799 phrase that helped her to understand what was happening within 212 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:04.679 the conspiracy world, which is the Midas touch. So I 213 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:11.159 thought I would bring up King Midas, right, nice, the 214 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:14.559 guy who turned everything to gold with the touch. Now 215 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:17.360 it's so common the way she uses it. She says 216 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:20.200 that the elites will pick somebody and then they'll just 217 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.159 have a free ride all the way up to the top, 218 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.799 kind of like Ammanu Macron. He didn't really have to 219 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.440 go to school. He didn't really have any qualifications for 220 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:29.200 the jobs that he had. You know, he was like 221 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.840 the head central banker for the Rothschilds and all the 222 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.279 rest of this. So she refers to him as being 223 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:37.480 one of these individuals blessed with the Midas touch. So 224 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.960 there are probably lots of other ones in that same situation, 225 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.080 and when you're looking in the background, they don't really 226 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.519 have anything to back up their credentials, but somehow they 227 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:51.240 make it to the top. And so King Midas is 228 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:55.639 king of Phrygia, right, So you've heard us talk over 229 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:59.039 and over and over again about the Phrygian cap, right, 230 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:02.159 So this is in three kind of south of Thrace, 231 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.799 and so this is the king over there, right. So 232 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:10.440 there's a lot of mythology attached to this guy and 233 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:16.080 that region specifically, especially the Phrygian cap. Many myths came 234 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.320 to be associateated about it. Members of the Phrygian royal house. 235 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:25.679 So his father was Gordius from the Gordian Knot idea, 236 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:32.879 and that was one of the trials of Alexander the Great. 237 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:34.559 He has to get through the Gordian Knot and he 238 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:38.840 decides he's just gonna fucking cut it. So his mother 239 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:44.919 was Kibali. The most famous king Midas. Yeah, so he's 240 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:49.000 like right in the middle of all that stuff. Is 241 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.639 remembered in Greek mythology for his ability to turn everything 242 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:54.879 he touched into pure gold, and this came to be 243 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.360 called the Golden touch or the Midas touch. Legends told 244 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:02.399 about this. Midas as A and his adopted father Gordius 245 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:06.919 credited with founding the Phrygian capital city of Gordium and 246 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.759 tying the Gordian knot. And so actually that kind of 247 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:14.960 goes into your symbol too, right, So the flower of 248 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.240 life is supposed to be kind of like this not 249 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:22.720 work as well. There's several symbols, including the Norse symbol 250 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.000 that I keep bringing up with the three triangles that 251 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:31.200 are sort of like these not work ideas. This was 252 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.559 in the second millennium BCE, before the Trojan War. Homer 253 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.200 does not mention Midas or Gordius, while instead mentioning two 254 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:46.399 other Phrygian kings, Migdun and Otreus. My DM was presumably 255 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:50.080 named after him, and this probably also Midas. According to 256 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:58.120 the Pausanaeus founded Ankrea today known as Ankara. Another king, Midas, 257 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:02.320 ruled Phrygia in the late eighth century BCE. Most historians 258 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:05.399 believe this might as to be the same person as Mita, 259 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:10.720 called King of the Mushki in Assyrian text, who ward 260 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:15.000 with the with Assyria and it's Anatolian provinces. If you 261 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:19.080 think about the differences in how the Neo Assyrian saw 262 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.120 the world versus how the Greeks saw the world, and 263 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.000 how they interpret the same characters, and the Greeks give 264 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:28.879 you stuff like this, whereas the Neo Assyrians give you 265 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.200 like stick figures with strange bug eyes. It's like, it's 266 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:36.360 so interesting how these two different cultures are depicting the 267 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.799 same area and the same events in totally different ways. 268 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:44.360 It's funny, you said the bug eyes, You're right, right, right, Yeah. 269 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.879 They've got the Sumerian bug eyes where it just seems 270 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:52.519 like their eyes are too big for their face. Oh yeah, retillion, right, 271 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.440 And so that was kind of the Neo Assyrian style, 272 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:01.159 and they they basically kept a continuity with the motifs 273 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:03.879 coming through the Samerians, right, and so you see this 274 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:09.080 a lot with the what do you call them Canaanite Phoenicians. 275 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:13.639 They keep so they've got more advanced art styles, but 276 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:17.039 they keep the eye style of the Samarans, which is 277 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:21.639 really interesting to me. It's like you're claiming ancestry in 278 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.600 how you make these different figures. There's more to it 279 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:29.600 than just, you know, simple shapes. These are actually a 280 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:38.039 continuity that stay throughout the century. So there's a Midas 281 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.639 monument in Phrygia that dates back to about seven hundred BCE, 282 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:48.960 and many contradictory legends about the most ancient king Midas. 283 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:54.080 In one, Midas was king of Pessanists, a city of Phrygia, 284 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:56.919 who as a child who was adopted by King Gordias 285 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:01.200 and Kaibali, the goddess whose consort was and who by 286 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:05.079 some accounts was the goddess mother of Midas himself. Again, 287 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:09.599 this ky belief figure almost creates people out of nothing. 288 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:21.279 It's a parthenogenesis. So in Thracius Migdonia, Herotodas referred to 289 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:24.559 a wild rose garden at the foot of Mount Bermion 290 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.160 as the garden of Midas, son of Gordius, where roses 291 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:34.240 grew of themselves and each bearing sixty blossoms and surpassing 292 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:39.680 in fragrance. So apparently there's mystic bushes associated with him 293 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:40.039 as well. 294 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:43.680 That's great. 295 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:46.920 Well, I mean the mystic bush motif you see happening 296 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.640 over and over again, and lots of different cultures around 297 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:54.319 the area, and the Phrygian culture was sort of like 298 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:57.200 the bridge or the crossway between the east and the west, 299 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:59.279 you know, Greece being in the west, and then all 300 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:02.880 the rest of this off is down south and east 301 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:06.000 of that point. And so Phrygia really did become one 302 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:09.839 of these crossover hubs for a lot of different cultures 303 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:13.079 and a lot of different happenings. And what Herodia, Now, 304 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:16.279 it wasn't herodidas I believe it was Plato that said 305 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:20.400 that the Phrygians and the Egyptians had a contest of 306 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:25.079 which society was ancient, and instead of the Egyptians even 307 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:26.880 putting up a fight, they just gave up there like 308 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:29.960 you guys beat us. The Phrygians are the oldest in 309 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:34.880 the world. And so that was the idea back then. 310 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:37.960 And you see Kaibli as this figure that's sort of 311 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:41.839 a constant all throughout the most ancient times in Phrygia. 312 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:46.559 So this ancient goddess worship really did influence everything else. 313 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:49.039 That was one of the most primary things. And so 314 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:52.319 people get all freaked out with the addas worship and 315 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:55.079 the self castration and all the rest of that stuff, 316 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.119 which did come out of Phrygia, right, didn't come out 317 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.839 of Thrace. It didn't come out of this region. But 318 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:04.160 you have to go back and say, yeah, that's that's 319 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.920 actually super super like forty five thousand years ancient. Like 320 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:16.160 stop going on. You know a lot of people, right, 321 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:19.240 A lot of people don't give Phrygia their due. But like, 322 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.279 we even have the Frygian cap on our seal for 323 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:23.240 the army today. 324 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:26.039 I was gonna say, I've heard you and other people 325 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:27.079 even bring that word up. 326 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:30.920 It's okay, you know the smurf hat. 327 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:33.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you told me that I had no 328 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:34.319 idea when you told me that shit. 329 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.880 No, I had no idea that Gargamel made that blonde 330 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.119 bitch right to infiltrate the Smurfs. 331 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:42.519 I had no idea until recently. 332 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:46.640 And like so, there was there was no females in 333 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.200 Smurf society until this wizard created one out of the 334 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:53.240 dust and then put her there to take them down. 335 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.559 But think about the other creation bets right, who's the 336 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:01.200 first woman in Greek mythology? First two minute women. 337 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:05.160 Oh, actually, now you're close. 338 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:10.759 She's got a box. We thought they all do, Yeah, 339 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:13.279 they do, but this one was the first. This was 340 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:16.640 Pandora's box. 341 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:17.880 Sorry, I was thinking of something else. 342 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.519 Yeah, I know what you that that was the call. 343 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:29.960 So yeah, she was the first woman, and she was 344 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:34.440 made as a punishment to man. She's created her as 345 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:36.880 a punishment and then gave her the box and said, 346 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:37.720 don't open it. 347 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:39.920 Oh you really how to do it too? 348 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:41.640 With you? 349 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:42.920 I'm going to create woman. 350 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.599 Right, that's exactly. And then Gardener me, same idea. I'm 351 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:50.240 gonna create a woman that's gonna fuck with you. And 352 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:51.680 she's the first one to take the bite of the 353 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.160 apple too. It's it's really interesting how they you know, 354 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.039 they viewed women as a punishment a lot of times. 355 00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:58.960 How do you know Adam didn't bite the apple just 356 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:00.400 to get the fuck out of the gar and away 357 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:05.960 from even right, it gets away from you, lady. 358 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:09.799 That whole situation is just so bizarre. It's like, if 359 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:14.039 you go back to the root histories of that that mythology, 360 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.759 it sounds nothing like it. It's like this space tail 361 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:21.200 between this crazy uh chaos dragon who gets forgiven by 362 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:23.519 the way. So at the end of the story, in 363 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:29.400 the original mythology, this viper causes them to become mortals, right, 364 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:31.559 So he's sort of guarding the tree, and as they 365 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:33.759 take a bite from the tree, he bites them and 366 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.799 then they become mortals. Before that, they were immortal. And 367 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:39.920 so it's like the Fall in the Garden. There's so 368 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.680 many crossovers between the original myth and what they have 369 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:44.759 in the Bible. But it's like they perverted it in 370 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:51.039 ways that make it really like guilt driven and everything else. 371 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:54.400 So it's they changed the original mythology to make it 372 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:57.599 more guilt which I think is kind of interesting. They're 373 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:00.799 kind of making an admission there without saying it. It's like, 374 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:05.319 we use this as a weapon. But uh, let's see 375 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:08.319 we got emails hopefully. 376 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:15.160 Oh shit, yo, check this out. 377 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.119 You know what if people send in, if people send 378 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.920 in a story, send in your address and I'll send 379 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:23.200 you free stickers to there you. 380 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:26.119 Go, Yo, did you hear that? Guys? 381 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:29.519 So and I send out any keep it to keep 382 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:31.839 it magically, you know the magician eight. 383 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:33.880 So you'll get eight free stickers. 384 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:41.200 You got it, So you got to get those emails 385 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.319 out about your weird. God damn it. Why does it 386 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:46.400 have to be so autistic? 387 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.440 He's so, he's like, I got you, Dick. I was 388 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:51.200 gonna send it the stickers anyway. But he's like, all right, 389 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:52.119 I'll give you a story too. 390 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:54.680 No, I'm talking about my email. 391 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.160 No, no, somebody knows somebody in the kid figure. He says, 392 00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:57.759 I got you, Dick. 393 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:01.440 Oh yeah, well you know where to send it. It's 394 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.920 the Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot com. 395 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:05.960 Yeah, send the story there and send me the address. 396 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:17.799 I got you. We got that, uh infuriating. Got that 397 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:21.240 kid Alexander coming back on this Saturday. That's something upcoming. 398 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:22.680 Oh what's that? 399 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:23.799 Uh? 400 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:25.599 Were you want with him the first time? Maybe not? 401 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:28.960