WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:07.320 Well whiskey coming fame, my pain, the holidays all ray, 2 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:08.519 oh whiskey. 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:12.679 Why think alone when you can drink it all In with. 4 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:14.919 Ricochet's Three Whiskey Happy. 5 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:18.960 Hour, join your bartenders Steve Hayward, John You and the 6 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:25.879 International Woman of Mystery Lucretia, where. 7 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.679 They slapping up and David, ain't you easy on the 8 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:30.160 should happy? 9 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:31.519 Got to give in and. 10 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:32.479 Let that whiskey. 11 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:38.799 Welcome everybody to a holiday episode of the Three Whiskey 12 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:42.520 Happy Hour. We're counting that a days to Christmas, although 13 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:47.799 we will have a special Christmas episode for everyone, but 14 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:50.159 before we do. This is going to be one of 15 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:53.960 the last episodes of through Whiskey Happy Hour for twenty 16 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:59.399 twenty five, and we are joined by our holiday themed 17 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:04.480 co We have the International Woman of Mystery, Lucretia, who 18 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:10.120 has an advent calendar that evolves skyscrapers, explosions and many guns. 19 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:11.319 What is that, Lucretia? 20 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:12.079 What do you have there? 21 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:17.040 It is the die Hard Christmas Official Christmas die Hard 22 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:25.799 Advent Calendar. It's nacotomy tower, explosion, helicopter and Hans Kruber 23 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:29.719 is almost splat at the bottom because it is the 24 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:31.280 eighteenth of December. 25 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:33.799 And what are you drinking to go along with the 26 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:37.359 Advent calendar? What is the die hard appropriate liquor of choice? 27 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.560 You're gonna laugh, You're gonna laugh really hard. Not only 28 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.200 am I not drinking liquor, I am drinking Mexican water 29 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:45.400 that I paid. 30 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:49.439 For Mexican waterbo Chico. 31 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.000 Yeah, yeah, I think it's don't you think it's kind 32 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.120 of funny to actually pay actual money for Mexican water 33 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:57.040 in a bottle. 34 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:01.040 It's so funny. I never do it. I really like, 35 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.560 what are where you? What are you drinking? And what's 36 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:07.000 your concession to the holiday spirit? 37 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:07.599 Yeah? 38 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:09.719 So this is really bad to me. I've been traveling 39 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:12.159 all week and I'm I'm still a little dehydrated. 40 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.199 So I just finished a Gin and Tonic because I 41 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.639 need the tonic, you know. So I know that's bad. 42 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:22.159 But do you have any Yeah, that's so lame. Do 43 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:26.400 you have any Christmas activities or clothing or anything that 44 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:31.039 rivals Lucretia's no die hard Advent calendar. 45 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.439 That's well, there's that, And she's also for viewer, the 46 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:35.439 few viewers, so that people can watch us they want 47 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.039 later because I'll post the video. She's all tricked out 48 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:40.719 and you know, tricked out, dressed up and you know, 49 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:45.280 splashy Christmas looking clothing. No, I am what I did 50 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:49.039 acquire my roast beast for Christmas Day? You know, a 51 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.240 giant rib roast that I'm gonna, you know, figure out. 52 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.879 Oh so, I don't know. I would have thought Steve, 53 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.960 you were more of a goose man given your you know, 54 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.120 resemblance to Ebenezer Scrooge. 55 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:03.199 No, no, And I will tell you if you ever 56 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:06.080 roast a duck on your on your grill and you 57 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.960 your dripping span put potatoes. 58 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:10.280 In the drink. 59 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:13.520 Oh maybe that's a great idea. 60 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.280 Yeah, well I'm you know, because you guys were fighting 61 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:17.879 earlier today, I feel. 62 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.719 Done. We have known each other for so long. Do 63 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:24.560 you think a little tiff like that is going to 64 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:25.439 break a friendship. 65 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:28.800 I was like they're getting divorced or something. It was 66 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.840 like I was the child of divorce again. Here, you guys, 67 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:34.439 I'm so glad the listeners never read your texts of 68 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.479 each other. So, because you guys are so mean to 69 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.199 each other, I'm going to break out the willet in 70 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:41.520 the gigantic in the giant bottle. 71 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.199 Here you're making me want to go get some Yeah. 72 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.360 Now I always offered out because I have to. 73 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:52.280 Be at four in the morning, your guys' time, but maybe. 74 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:55.960 I was really will damn you John? Yeah? 75 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:59.199 Man, Well, like I said, you're you're you're guys bickering 76 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.560 and fighting is and me to drink. We're not really 77 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:03.960 to drive you guys to drink. 78 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:07.479 We're talking past each other as usual. 79 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:11.319 Yeah, that's right, Yes, okay, much more. 80 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.719 We did this not on text. We could actually probably 81 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:17.759 come to an understanding. But yeah, that's that's then. This 82 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:19.560 has happened for years, John. 83 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:23.439 Oh good god, how can you take it for that long? Anyway, 84 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.480 So the first topic I think we're going to discuss 85 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:31.480 is the shooting at Brown. As we are taping the show, 86 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:36.519 there's breaking news that the police have finally found the shooter. 87 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:41.600 They were all kinds of conspiracy theories circling around this 88 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:44.759 because the Brown, I mean the Providence police at first 89 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:48.160 caught somebody, then they released us person of interest that 90 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.759 they were cleared. That's been Let's see, the shooting was 91 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:55.480 on Saturday, so up until today there didn't seem to 92 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.160 be any progress made. There was talk that it might 93 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:00.240 be related to the shooting of an Am I tea 94 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.160 professor also in the last week. I'm not sure whether 95 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:07.480 that's true now that it turns out that the brown shooter, 96 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:12.079 according to results reports we're just getting has died at 97 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:16.480 a storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire, which was surrounded 98 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:21.920 by armed police. And we'll get more details. But despite 99 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:26.040 the details, what do you all make of the brown shooting? 100 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.759 I mean, this has followed a number of shootings that 101 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.560 have been taking place on college campuses. Remember Charlie Kirk 102 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:37.959 was assassinated on a college campus as well. Does this 103 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:40.959 mean we need to harden and wepping up, wepping up 104 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.680 on campuses? Is there something we can do about this? 105 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:49.120 Is there at a political angle to any of this? 106 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:55.079 Is it the case that it's left wing nuts who 107 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.480 are taking advantage of the openness of college campuses to 108 00:05:58.680 --> 00:05:59.639 shoot at people? 109 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.279 Lucretia your tape, Well, let me just say that my 110 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:10.199 whole university has been completely dismantled and riled and we 111 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.639 have now a horrible administration. Hope they're listening because of 112 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:21.319 a shooting that took place. A Muslim graduate student who 113 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:26.360 was unhappy about I don't know what with an engineering 114 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:30.600 professor walked into the classroom and shot him dead. And 115 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:34.319 he had been on like all these other things, on 116 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:38.959 the radar for some time. But the police they didn't 117 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:42.120 do anything about it, and so everybody from the president, 118 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:47.399 the provost down ultimately the police chief, all of those 119 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:53.079 people just felt like Domino's because of that shooting was gosh, 120 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:57.079 it's probably been three years now, but I don't know. 121 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.800 I mean campus, If you want to be a shooter, 122 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.879 campus is a great place to do it, because, as 123 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:03.839 you probably know, John, the only person who's ever on 124 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:10.319 armed on campus, and then only in her car is me. 125 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.600 Oh my god, the arsenal that she drives around with 126 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:21.279 in that tesla, Oh I was. I felt bad for 127 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:23.199 any police officer who was going to pull her over 128 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:24.560 for speeding, that's for sure. 129 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.639 Before I concede to Steve the time, I just there. 130 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.120 I do have a serious comment about what you said, 131 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.319 and I do think that in so far as some 132 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:40.120 of these college university based shootings are actually, you know, 133 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:44.720 confined to universities, it's because universities are the hotbeds of 134 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.879 what I would consider probably the two most controversial issues 135 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:50.839 in American politics today, and that would be the whole 136 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:56.279 transgender debate. And then of course the Gaza Israel Zionist debate. 137 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.040 I mean on campuses. You guys are on campuses too, 138 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:04.279 both of you. Do you see anything more oh, what 139 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:08.920 shall we say? More salient on university campuses? And every 140 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.920 shooting that I can think of has its relationship to 141 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.120 one or the other. But you know, I'm not probably 142 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:15.160 thinking good Steve. 143 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:19.199 Before Steve responds and answers, another detailed just came in. 144 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:24.759 The name of the shooter was Claudia Claudia Manuel Nevez Valente, 145 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:29.600 forty eight year old former Brown graduate student and Portuguese national, 146 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:35.679 last residence was on Miami, found with two firearms on him. Steve, 147 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.080 what do you think? Well, okay, so this is. 148 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.960 Real information that maybe changes things a little. And three 149 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.679 or four things. First, most people don't pay any attention 150 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:48.720 to Rhode Island because why would you. It's the size 151 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.320 of a postage stamp. But it's an incredibly corrupt state. 152 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.879 And if you watched any of the press conferences of 153 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:58.639 the law enforcement, you saw a total clown show. What 154 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:01.759 if the babel and be said, she wighams put in 155 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.440 the investigation? You know, the big bumbling police chief from 156 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.639 single student who is I'm coming to all that. I 157 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.960 mean that the list of particulars on you know, they 158 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:14.200 picked up a lot of cats and dogs who've fired 159 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.320 for their jobs for incompetence, and so it's a very 160 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:20.440 corrupt state for the public employee union, such that Gina 161 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.720 Raymundo when she was governor was a reformer, you know, 162 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:27.519 she was later became you know, Biden secretary of Commerce, 163 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.720 uh and then at Brown. So big question marks here. 164 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:34.840 There are reports that apparently have some credibility. I'm not 165 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:39.240 sure about confirmation yet, that Brown removed lots of security 166 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.919 cameras after pressure from people who said, well, we don't 167 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.799 want to help ice and or we don't want to 168 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:49.519 help the police identify Gaza protesters, and that the administration 169 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:52.639 gave into that. That's not confirmed yet, but you're you're 170 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.559 hearing that charged And when some reporters good for them, 171 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.240 asked about this at one of the press conferences, got 172 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:03.440 a very heated response. That was a non response from officials. 173 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:03.679 Right. 174 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:09.440 The third thing was is the university is something very strange. 175 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:14.720 They have a guy I was a student, he's LGBTQ 176 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:16.639 plus xyz. 177 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.320 Omega whatever, all the letters, who's a you know, pro 178 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:26.600 Palestinian activist, pretty radical, and they scrubbed his information from. 179 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:28.039 The university's website. 180 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:30.360 By the way, he looks a lot like the physique 181 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:32.519 of the person you saw in the videos that were 182 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:34.759 put out. So a lot of people online said, hey, 183 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:37.159 I wonder if this is the guy. Now, maybe it's not. 184 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.759 It sounds like it's not from the information that you've 185 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.000 just when they do it is John. But you know, 186 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:44.559 and the university is saying, oh, we don't want people 187 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.080 to be docs. We were concerned for the students safety. 188 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:50.279 All you did by scrubbing him from the website was 189 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:52.559 called more attention to this person. 190 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:56.000 That was I mean, again, maybe this is stupidity. 191 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.960 The old Mike Yeoman rule never chuck up to malice 192 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:02.720 what could be explained by epidity, But boy, it certainly 193 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.919 raises suspicions that they're covering for someone that they may 194 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:08.320 have admitted who's a crazy person who might have been 195 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:11.000 So maybe it's not him, but still that was a 196 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:16.919 dumb move by the university. Then finally, last point, the 197 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.480 fact that they are investigating and by the way, it's 198 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.000 been set in the Wall Street Journal this evening, which 199 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.799 means now mainstream press that they're investigating a connection between 200 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.799 this shooting and the one of the Jewish mit professor 201 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:34.200 who's doing work on fusion energy. They might be connected. 202 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:36.879 That starts to look that this is not a typical 203 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:40.120 campus shooting or any other kind of mass shooting incident, 204 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:44.399 that this was targeted, deliberate planned out. The classroom at 205 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:46.679 Brown was on what the fourth floor of the building 206 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:49.440 or something. This was not a you know, I want 207 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:51.879 to go shoot some people because I'm mad or crazy 208 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.039 or angry. It's they wanted to go to that classroom 209 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.720 which had a Jewish professor, and one of the persons, 210 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.679 care Old was one of the leaders apparently very well 211 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:06.639 known and controversial on the campus of the College Republicans. So, 212 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.120 I mean, we'll see if we learn more about this, 213 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:12.639 but all these things make us looks different and very suspicious. 214 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:18.240 What do you think about Lucretia's point, Steve, that the 215 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.600 reason these are taking place on college campuses is because 216 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:25.799 we've seen heighten level of violence on campus because of 217 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:29.559 the reaction to the Gods of War, which has been 218 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.240 far to the left on campus, I think then in 219 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.879 the rest of the country, and then also the ideology. 220 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:38.720 She said LGBTQ, or you could say woke, or you 221 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:42.480 could say a variety of things, but the extreme I 222 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:46.759 would say Marxist ideology that has infected our campuses. Do 223 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.559 you think that this makes universities a fertile ground for 224 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:52.759 political violence of this kind? 225 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:53.320 Yeah? 226 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:55.360 I do, I mean I do think there may be 227 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.399 an aspect of the what do we say, social contagion 228 00:12:58.480 --> 00:12:59.000 taking place. 229 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.799 Let's remember, you know mass shootings thirty years ago. 230 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:07.000 What's the phrase we used to use is somebody going postal? 231 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:11.799 Yeah, but that's because you had youngsters are like postal? 232 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:16.000 What's that that welling? Right? Well? 233 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:18.320 Yeah, well there wasn't that many, but it doesn't take 234 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:19.879 that many. You had three or four. 235 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:20.960 It was only three or four. 236 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:22.919 It's a very minor number. But because they were so 237 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:27.480 unusual and spectacular, you had three or four disgruntled fired 238 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:30.519 postal workers went into their postal offices usually it was 239 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:34.480 what they call the mmpc's the mail processing centers uh, 240 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:37.440 and shot up twenty people and so it was postal workers. 241 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.960 So the phrase going postal caught on and that died out. 242 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.480 But why did it happen more than once? Well, because 243 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.799 you had copycats, right, the copycat phenomenon is real. I'm 244 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:49.279 not an expert on the social science of this, but 245 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.320 I do think that once she starts, people say, oh, 246 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:54.840 I can shoot Charlie Kirk on a college campus. I can, 247 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:57.679 I can. I think these things vary. I mean, you 248 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:00.480 had a what an Asian student was a VM or 249 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:01.320 Virginia Tech. 250 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:04.840 Yes, there was a Korean kid, you know, a troubled 251 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:05.559 I don't. 252 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:06.000 Know what that's about. 253 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.600 That was that wasn't ideological and I don't think he 254 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.559 was nuts, that's what he was. Yeah, But the fact 255 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:14.440 that you start seeing it at college campuses, Oh, Brown 256 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:16.200 University is a gun free zone? 257 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:17.360 How could this happen there? 258 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:21.360 Right? I do think that people see this harket of opportunity, 259 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.960 and for whatever reason, I don't discount the creatious reason, 260 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.919 but for whatever reason, I think we should fear more 261 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:28.200 of this. 262 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:32.000 What would you do to. 263 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.799 Yeah, what would you do to let's look going forward? 264 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:39.879 What would you do should this other other than other 265 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.039 than give out more advent calendars with about a movie 266 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.399 about I got a police a police officer who shoots 267 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:49.279 up with our in Los Angeles? What would you do 268 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:52.679 if we do expect to see more of this and 269 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:54.799 of course you know, you know, the three of us 270 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.440 are college professors. I mean, we know that the parents 271 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:02.320 of these families and trust these children to our care, 272 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:06.440 and our university is failing in the job of maintaining 273 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:08.759 basic security on campus. Is what would you do to 274 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:11.000 stop stem this tide of violence? 275 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:15.240 So remember when you were when you were coming to 276 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.759 your wonderful visit to my campus. And I met a 277 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:23.679 couple of times with the campus police department, and especially 278 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:28.519 with their OSN'T people, their open source intelligence people who 279 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.480 actually explained to me, and then we talked about how 280 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.639 we might work together with our own academic program that 281 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:36.799 does that. That was part of the reason why I 282 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:39.159 got a deeper dive into it. But I think you 283 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:42.080 would be surprised how much they actually do look into, 284 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.679 at least the more obvious ways in which disgruntled students 285 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:53.519 former students who might put anything out there on the Internet, 286 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:56.480 on Reddit, on TikTok, on those sorts of things, and 287 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:00.000 are prepared for them. Those things are much more likely 288 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.320 to be you know, something like a famous law professor 289 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:08.080 from Berkeley comes and gives a public talk, and so 290 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:10.200 they're ready for it, and they're watching and they know 291 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:14.639 who's been who's been writing about it on social media, 292 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:18.840 posting about it. But they also sometimes can see evidence 293 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:21.720 of you know, but they're never going to pick up 294 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.240 these loaners that are are just out there stewing and 295 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.720 there's not much they can do. And and and everybody 296 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:30.679 on a campus in many ways I think is a 297 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:35.600 sitting dock, because no campus that I know of allows 298 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.879 firearms of any kind on it as far as I know, 299 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:41.799 you guys, Texas. 300 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:47.279 University of Texas at Austin does well, but state law, 301 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:50.639 state law requires it. They're not allowed to stop the operations. 302 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:52.679 There's been a there's been a big push on many 303 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.639 campuses to have the campus police force. 304 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:56.559 Not have weapons. 305 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:01.840 Mine doesn't really really. Yeah, actually, so you remember that 306 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:04.920 I'm on a little really quickly. I'm on a little 307 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:08.559 branch campus of the university, and we are next door 308 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:13.920 to a community college very close to within one hundred yards, 309 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:23.079 and we contract out from them our security. They're security guards. 310 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:26.720 If our security guard calls them and they have to 311 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.279 come over because something's happening, they have to go put 312 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:34.200 their guns in the locked locker whatever it's called before 313 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:39.160 they can come onto our campus. That's the policy. That's 314 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:41.680 how serious they take the idea that you're not allowed 315 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:44.240 to have a gun on campus stupid. 316 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.000 I mean it might be a test of that theory 317 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:51.000 whether more guns means less crime. If these people might 318 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.240 be attacking, just like I think they attack K through 319 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.920 twelve schools because they know they're soft targets, right, And 320 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.559 if they thought there might be people around with guns 321 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:01.839 who I don't know whether it would interfere with the 322 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:05.200 culture of openness and learning on that we're supposed to 323 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:08.440 try to foster on college campuses if I have more 324 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:13.359 armed guards, but I'd rather not be shot either, Steve, 325 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:15.319 I mean, well, not. 326 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:17.480 To be label at this point, but I go back 327 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:21.200 to the nostalgia of pictures of high schools that had 328 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.160 shooting classes, and you used you can find pictures of 329 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:28.039 people who drove to their high school campuses and their 330 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.920 pickup trucks with their shotguns on the rack in the back. 331 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:35.079 That was America at sixty seventy years ago. And Okay, 332 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:36.599 I'll just stop there. You get the point. 333 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.759 Let's turn to our second topic, which is Lucretia was 334 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.279 right Donald Trump can be president for a third term. 335 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:48.759 Who knew? 336 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:57.559 According to according to a offbed written by Alan Drschwitz 337 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:02.200 and apparently personally discussed by Dershwitz. Apparently Dershwuss has some 338 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:05.839 book that he is mentioned to Trump at the White 339 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:11.240 House Hanukkah party that argues that Trump could become president 340 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:14.920 for a third term, although hasn't he already been elected 341 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:19.759 three times by his count anyway he could or bad. 342 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:26.839 Apparently Miriam Addelson, the wife of Sheldon Adelson, was told 343 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:29.519 about this and during the Hanukkah Christmas party, said this 344 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.400 would be a great idea that we should do it, 345 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:34.240 and Trump apparently said something like you're going to give 346 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.640 another two hundred and fifty million dollars for that, which 347 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.680 apparently was evoked laughs. But let me, if I think 348 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:47.599 I can test this out on you lay out Dershwitz's theory. So, 349 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:50.759 if you look at the twenty second Amendment, which was 350 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:54.000 of course added to the Constitution after FDR broke the 351 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:59.200 two term tradition, it says no person shall be elected 352 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:04.160 to the office of President more than twice. And so 353 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:08.759 what he says, I assume is that what if Trump 354 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.680 became president in some of the ways you can become 355 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:19.400 president without being elected. Suppose, for example, you are the president, 356 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.920 you're running, you're the vice president. And the person running 357 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.799 as president wins and then steps down. Does a vice 358 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:31.839 president who becomes president? Was he actually elected to the presidency. 359 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.759 So that's case number one. Case number two could be 360 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:40.559 suppose this is a little more complicated, the electoral College 361 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:43.960 doesn't come to a majority, and the case gets thrown 362 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.759 into the House, where each state votes by delegation. If 363 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:52.119 the House picks you, have you been elected to the presidency. 364 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.920 Maybe you haven't been, Maybe you've been chosen or selected 365 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:58.480 by the House. And there's some talk, well, well, the 366 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:02.400 Republicans could run a slate and then tell their delegates 367 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:05.440 to just not vote. That would deprive the winner of 368 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:07.119 a majority and then would get thrown into the House. 369 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:14.039 The third possibility, which actually seems the most realistic of 370 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:18.079 these all these very low probabilit events, is suppose the 371 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:20.880 president and the vice president win and then they resign. 372 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:24.000 That means, under the law of secession, the Speaker of 373 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:27.680 the House becomes the president, and the Speaker of the 374 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.200 House is not required under the constitution to be a 375 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.160 member of Congress, so the House could essentially pick anyone 376 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.599 in the country to be the Speaker of the House, 377 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:37.960 and that person would become president. They would never have 378 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.160 been elected to be president, they would just be president 379 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.279 through the secession law. So I assume der Schwitz is 380 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.359 arguing that any of these or all of these possibilities 381 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:51.480 are ways that President Trump could be president for a 382 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:56.200 third term. Lucretia, what do you think? What do you 383 00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.440 think about this? Would you want Trump to be president 384 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.039 ford term? If he were, would you want him to 385 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.599 resort to these you know, tricks, or maybe maybe this 386 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.440 is uh, you know, a legitimate way to interpret the 387 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:10.440 twenty second Amendment. 388 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:11.000 What do you think? 389 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:11.599 I mean? 390 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:15.359 I think that that what I the only really interesting 391 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.119 thing I took from dershowitz article, And I don't I'm 392 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.799 not really trying to diss him in any way, but 393 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:23.400 I didn't think it was very compelling. What you just 394 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:25.720 said was a lot more compelling than what Dershowitz had 395 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:29.119 to say. But he came up with this wild sort 396 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.640 of scenario that it would take in order for say, 397 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.359 the president to have been appointed secretary of State, you know, 398 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.960 and after what was it? 399 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:42.759 The Yeah, that was a stupid way to do it. 400 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:43.920 The other three I just. 401 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.799