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the Fan. Private equity getting into collegiate sports. We've been

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talking about it. The first domino is it looks like

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it has fallen and it's.

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Speaker 3: Right here in our state of Utah.

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Speaker 4: Salt Lake City is the city and the University of

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Utah is delving into the private equity foray. Is it

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a good thing? Is it a bad thing? What does

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it mean for you Cougar fans? What does it mean

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for the University of Utah? Is this tax payer funded

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as well as private equity funded? Is that the fail safe?

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Who's going to approve this, why would they approve it?

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And more here on your Utah, ESPN Readio network, also

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getting into all of the Notre Dame drama. It continues,

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mister Beverquad the eighty for Notre Dame is just on

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a rampage from a public relations standpoint, giving quotes everywhere

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he roams.

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Speaker 3: He seems to be shopping for a new partner okay.

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Speaker 4: In the college football and college athletics world. Whether that's

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the SEC Big Ten or the Big twelve to be determined,

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but he is not happy with the ACC. It seems

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like this is trending towards a divorce where he's got

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twenty four of his athletic teams playing in the ACC

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and you have six games with his football team playing

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in the ACC.

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Speaker 3: He's ticked off.

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Speaker 4: Felt like the ACC as a conference was attacking Notre Dame,

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their brand, their resume, and that's the reason why that

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Notre Dame's not in the colle football playoff. That I mean,

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if I was just surmised you, if I was to

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summarize it, he's actively engaged in disassociating himself from the ACC,

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and he blames the ACC for the public relations negative

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propaganda that the ACC spilled out onto social media and

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other platforms and maybe even with ESPN, the media partner

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of the College Football Playoff in colleg Football Playoff Committee

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during this process.

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Speaker 3: So crazy stuff happening.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna delve into all of it here on your

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Uti ESBN ready and newk and what it means for

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Speaker 4: Let's fired up the ESPN the fans starting lineup, and

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beautiful Tuesday, December ninth edition of Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 3: Let's welcome in first and foremost.

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Speaker 4: Executive producer, and he does a lot behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: Ronald, the three man Weaver, Ronnie, how you living.

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Speaker 1: I'm living good. Hope you guys are doing well.

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Speaker 3: In a December ninth edition.

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Speaker 5: Is crazy that we're in December bend, but I love

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it because it's the holiday season.

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Speaker 3: So happy holidays.

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Speaker 6: I haven't said this officially to you and your other calls,

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so you introduced, but happy holidays.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, Happy holidays, Happy holidays. Let's welcome in Brett always

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bringing the hammer habitame show what's up?

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Speaker 3: I'd like to sell a percentage of my future earning

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from five hundred million dollars today.

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Speaker 7: I'll give it away right now for any private equity

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that wants to invest in the ten thousand dollars how

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much you been having to make over the next couple

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of years. If any private equity wants to invest, I'm

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here to give it away.

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Speaker 4: You're here to give away your profits, just a percentage,

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a percentage, not the whole day, not.

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Speaker 3: All of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's welcome in our private equity Guru.

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Speaker 3: We got Brandon Sagurty the g man. What's up, g Man.

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Speaker 5: I've been on Google chaps. I've been trying to understand

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this private equity think.

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Speaker 1: I really have, like you.

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Speaker 5: Cougar, or to understand board, to understand there's people on there.

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Speaker 4: Oh, there are there are many people whatever.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to wrap my head around this. If it's

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going to work, how it's going to work, and when

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needs to go into it. I it blows my mind.

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Speaker 3: And can break this up.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you what I see from Corporate America

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and how like VC firms and private equity firms have

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have in many ways ruined corporate America, if that's a

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if that's possible, but yeah, I'll devin that from what

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I've seen personally, and and how maybe the black Rocks,

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the Blackstones and many others come in and they they

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they make things. They make, they make the better right,

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they make these entities seemingly more popular, profitable. They they

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they they they buy, they they churn and burn, that's

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what they do typically. So I don't know what the

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endgame is for private equity to be in this business.

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Is it to sell to another private equity firm, right

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to sell to somebody else?

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Speaker 3: Sell, you know what I mean? Like it's different in that.

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Speaker 4: Regard because like from what I see from private equity,

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it's buy make it more profitable, profitable, you know, make

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the even though look really nice for other VC firms,

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private equity firms to buy it.

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Speaker 3: So is that what they're gonna do? Are they gonna hold?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Oh, Trow, I don't know what you know,

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what the backing is of the of this particular private

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equity firm is going to be.

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Speaker 3: But I do find it.

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Speaker 4: Interesting just how aggressive the University of Utah has been

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in this. They are the first domino fall. Everyone's been flirtatious, right,

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everyone's been flirtatious. We've seen it in in professional sports,

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and we know that college athletics is a professional sports world.

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Speaker 5: Now, Texas Tech's kind of at fault here. Texas Tech celebrated.

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really good football team this year. Guess where they are?

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Fourth in the country. College football playoff. It works, It

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absolutely works. So of course it was gonna work. Anyone

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who didn't think it was gonna work, I mean, what

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are you thinking. Yeah, cash inflow, players responding, get good players, boom,

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college football playoff, more money coming in. Whatever, Hey, we

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can do that, invest in us, we can do this.

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We have good coaches, we have a great foundation. We're

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the University of Utah. Boom, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And here's what the suggestion.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's kind of putting in the fail safe of the

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Utah tax payer, with Utah being a state institution.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so even if.

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Speaker 5: It incurs a loss, maybe can write it off to

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a different book keeping thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing what I've seen in with private equity,

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they're very how do I say creative when they're accounting. Yeah,

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and I think state run institutions sometimes are very creative

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in their accounting. Anyway, you combine those two entities trying

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to find any way possible to not be held accountable

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for anything and to make themselves look more profitable than

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Typically these universities, in these athletics parts, they run in

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the red anyway. They want to run into it. You spend.

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If you don't spend it, you lose it. If you

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don't use it, you lose it. That's why they're always

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like you have it's it's kind of like a small

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business to a certain degree. Like at the end of

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the year, I'm looking at tax smart wealthsing invisement type

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of things. I may buy a new van technology because

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I'm looking at being in a tax bracket that side.

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they're looking at spending as much money as possible so

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that they look like they need more subsidy. They need

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more taxpayer funds, they need more help. University of Utah

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has the highest paid in eployee in the state, Kyle Whittingham,

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at five million plus dollars per year, so that all

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your your tax dollars go to his his salary, and

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you wonder if that fail safe is there. It's like, okay,

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well it's still a state run institution, but they're selling

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their bif getting they're splitting up their university and say

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the athletic department is now a private entity. Well, what

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are the funds coming from the the university? Then it's

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been typically subsidized their student fees, right, So is that

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completely disassociated and they're just allowing them licensing for the brand.

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to be determined. How what the fail safe is if

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once private equity enters, I feel like typically they're going

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to sell to another investment group. They're gonna make it profitable,

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they're gonna make it successful, they're gonna make it attractive,

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and then they're gonna sell it to somebody else.

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Speaker 3: If it fail. What is failure? Is it not being profitable?

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, I will say this, do you believe that universities

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Speaker 3: Do you believe that universities.

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Speaker 4: Led by academics and non business people are why we're

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in the position we're in in collegiate athletic right, like overspending,

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you know, just completely inadequate, just inefficient, just all of

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the barriers that in bottlenecks that impede you from being

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fleet a foot and getting things done and doing things properly. Yes,

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like they're the reason why you have a bunch of

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incompetence competing in a world in which they have no

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core competency in and they meddle and they think they know,

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but they don't. They're academics, these are administrators. There's a

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if you no offense like this is a quote from

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School of Rock. I love that movie. I love School

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Bright Jack Black. You know, if you can't do, you teach.

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If you can't teach, you teach gym class. There's truth

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in that though, too. That's why I love if anyone

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here like that that has taken classes from these adjunct

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professors that were in the industry and then they come

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back and give back yep, Like that's the best class. Yep,

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it's the best class. Dad, my dad, who was a

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dentist for years right Souldis Practice, came up here, worked

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at the Roseman School. He was the favorite teacher and

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he led the lab and people became These students became

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better dentists physically, their neuromuscular coordination and techniques and materials,

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all those things.

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Speaker 3: You know. Who wasn't a good dentist. The academics still,

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the bureaucracy that was over him. They were a horrible dentists.

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Speaker 4: They're all about published theoretical ethereal romantic ideas and then

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profiting off of those published journal articles, right like.

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Speaker 3: That, that's what they do, And so what do they do?

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They kind of usher out.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, I just decided to give up on myself

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and become a teacher because those that can't do teach

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and those that can't teach teach gym.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: But like, so yet, going back to the private EQUI conversation, right,

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fun and make fun of academics and teachers and romantic.

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Speaker 3: Mind you know melders that they are.

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Speaker 4: They they're they're they're they're raising the next generation in

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many ways in this academic world. But they do not

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have business savvy, you know, they just don't. They don't

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have sports marketing savvy. They don't have sports media savvy.

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They That's why we're in the situation we're in because

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you've had academics leading the charge with Conference UH affiliation,

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conference realignment, them negotiating these university presidents and administrators and

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chancellors along with their eighties trying to negotiate deals with

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ESPN and Fox, and who's taking advantage of those administrators

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ESPN and Fox, ESPN.

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Speaker 3: And Fox, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's the same reason why the PAC twelve is dead,

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Dean Dong, the Wicked Witch is dead. The PAC twelve

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died because you had incompetence leading the way Hubris and romance,

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eentticism and gluttony and all manner.

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Speaker 3: Of lascivious living.

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Speaker 4: That's what they were too plump and fat hogs get

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fat pigs get slaughtered, and the Pac twelve got slaughtered

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because of their inadequacy and efficiencies and incompetence. So private

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equity although I'm not like, I don't have this warm

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embrace around private equity. It's not like they you want

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to be transactional and not transformational. It is the antithesis,

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in my opinion, of why we get into sport and coaching.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: Now it's all about profitability and transactionality, not transforming young adults,

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not creating this this pipeline of great mentorship and academic

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prominence and learning and and then.

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Speaker 3: Long term any potential.

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Speaker 4: Now it's all like profitability, profitability, transaction, transaction dollar spreadsheet,

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spreadsheet spreadsheet.

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Speaker 3: Even even even does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: And so that's it runs contrary to why we get

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into the sport. But many people would counter that and

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retort say, then look how transactional these players are becoming,

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and their parents are becoming, and their agents are becoming.

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Now's the time to do private equity because then they're

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gonna get visibility on market rates.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be very strategic.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have business minded individuals that are in this

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field that have probably some core competency, maybe even in

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the sports realm of things, because private equity is getting

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into two uh NFL, major League Baseball, all of it, right,

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They're they're they're they're getting into all of it, and

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they're gonna look at the book. They're gonna see how

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things are operating, to see how things are organizationally designed.

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But you know, and then they're gonna hire people and

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they're gonna cut fat and they're gonna probably be more

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transactional than you would actually feel feel good about as

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maybe a fan of the altruistic way Darnell's, Darnell's gonna

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be ticked off. Now if you thought Darnell was mad

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before double D. The altruist that that believes that everyone

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was abiding by the rules for the last one hundred

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years of collegiate athleticism, don't go on. Everyone abided by

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the rules, you know, the arm swing. They abided by

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the rules and they did everything right. And that was

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the good old days when these players never got a

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dime and they got a good hearty education.

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Speaker 3: Did you see did you see the ed ordre in sound?

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Did you see those guys?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm sorry I missed it because I

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love that order.

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Speaker 4: He's okay, It's what I've been saying forever on this show,

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like and and it's so funny because it I'll get

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sequential with this.

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Speaker 3: I'll send it over to you, I Rannie.

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Speaker 4: Actually, Coach O states that the SEC has been cheating forever.

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Speaker 3: They've had bagmen forever.

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Speaker 1: You know this, We have the stories.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so like we know that the big ten SEC

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and maybe maybe certain ACC school I don't know, maybe

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certain USC packed twelve schools, right, Like, there's a certain

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like hierarchy. And you wonder you know why the NC

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DOUBLEA was incentivized to investigate some and not investigate others.

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Typically it's a it's a money funnel, right, Hey, n

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C DOUBLEA, here's some money.

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Speaker 3: Look the other way.

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Speaker 4: The bagmen come in through the back door rather than

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the front door. Now, and that's what Ada says. We'll

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get to it here momentarily, but this let's just tune it.

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Speaker 3: Let's listen.

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Speaker 4: And this is coach Coach Edwardron, one of the iconic

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coaches in the modern era of college football National Champion

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discussing nil and bagmen.

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Speaker 3: Y'all know that SEC was an I L before an

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I L.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know he's work way past it now just

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admitt it.

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Speaker 8: Hey, you know what I say, It goes. You know,

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you've been not a coaching foot a while, and though,

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how do you adjust a N I L? So well,

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it's a minor adjustment. And what do you mean I said?

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Back then, we used to walk through the back door

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in the cash. Now we just got to walk through the.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So what I've been trying to educate everybody on that

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that is very like they're just ignorant. You're ignorant. If

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you didn't know this was happening, you're just ignorant. And

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you you're an ostrich, You're an ostricher. You just thought,

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oh that And I told you time time. The reason

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why the SEC, why private equity is getting involved, amongst

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other things, is the fact that the SEC and the

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Big Tennis have a stranglehold in a monopoly on college

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football for so long, and and they don't want to

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give it up. They don't want to give it up.

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They have built their brands through cheating. They have built

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their NFL pipelines through cheating. They have through money, filthy lucre.

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That's what it comes down here. They have built it

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all through cheating. And they are scared out of their

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minds right now because there's more parody in college football

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than ever.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're scared about. They're scared about parody.

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Speaker 4: They're scared that they're too deep are going to TCU.

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They're too deep's going to BYU there, their second string,

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third string guy is going elsewhere to go get paid

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into play right, and that scares the living daylights out

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of them.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so full circle here.

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Speaker 4: We know that they've cheated now SEC in particular, and

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so when you look at five teams getting into the

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College Football Playoff from the SEC and they're all getting paid, right,

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it's gonna funnel back to those decision makers, whether you

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believe it or not, like it will it, And it's

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gonna funnel back to ESPN obviously because ESPN is the owner, operator,

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and rights holder for the CFP. So to say anything

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contrary to what they want, you're not abiding. So when

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you sear Kirk Kirbstreet not wanting to include BYU and

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and all, even Trevor Madditz. I no offense to Trevor,

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Like he won't even like acknowledge that there's not a

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graphic about BYU being compared like I love Trevor, Like,

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I'm not saying he's compromised. I'm just saying, like, if

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you're a corporate entity, Like if I speak ill of

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the corporate entities in which I represent publicly the people

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that employ me, it's not good for me, and I

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may not have a job by the end of Q four, right,

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like like, so just realize, like there is corruption still,

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there is a cabal, there is a cartel, there is

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a monopoly, there is an oligopoly.

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Speaker 3: That's how.

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Speaker 4: Just go and research you know, the Rockefellers or the

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Rosties or any one of these major families that run

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this world and how they create, you know, these these

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barriers of entry into certain markets, and they own markets,

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they monopolize markets. That's all College football is in a

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much deader bit of small scale, that's what it is.

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And they're scared out of their minds that there's more competition.

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Speaker 3: It's the the idea that there was still the Cinderella.

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Speaker 4: Now you're hearing like with JMU and and and Tulane.

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Speaker 3: They're like, why do we even have these guys.

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Speaker 4: We shouldn't have Cinderella's right, Paul Finebaub, we shouldn't even

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have the They're not the big boys. And I'm like, man,

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I'm against that because you do need to have a

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certain amount of like hope for these other other teams,

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even though they're not financially as robust as these big

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brands that have brand akwin that were cheating on their

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way to the top, cheating right with their donor bases

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and yet with media rights deal and their population density. Yeah,

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like all of those things can distributed to it, but

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they're cheating. They're cheating to build up. So if JMU

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had been allowed to cheat, if Chulange was allowed to

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cheat throughout the time SMU tried to cheat in the

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eighties and they got slapped with a death penalty, now

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look at them like they were just in the college

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wall play thing at their plots kick but like they're

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they're a good program now a buch better a very

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good one.

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Speaker 3: I would say good to very good.

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Speaker 4: So anyways, I'm going full I'm kind of going with

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all these ideas here, Like is it good that private

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equity is getting into the business.

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Speaker 3: Is it good that for University of Utah?

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Speaker 4: It probably will initially be good because a five hundred

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million dollars influx of cash is gonna make you competitive immediately.

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So yeah, that's a great thing for the University of Utah.

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Will it be a long term great deal for all

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the taxpayers in Utah if this fails? Because you have

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incompetent people that are also still meddling in the profitability

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and operational, day to day logistical execution of running.

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Speaker 3: A football program.

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know, Like I hope that they're not

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bailed out if they fail, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I hope that we're not subsidized we've already.

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Speaker 4: Like it's funny the people up on the hill the

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University of Utah, they get ticked off that, like donors

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with money, their own money, by the way, support VA athletics.

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Speaker 3: Like they're scared out of their minds about that. That's

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why they're the first domino.

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Speaker 4: Feel can feel because everything is based off of neighborly

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and enmity. In your own life, okay, your personal life,

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everything much of what you do is based off of

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comparative culture, comparative competitive culture.

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Speaker 3: It's what the Law of Moses is all about. Okay.

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Speaker 4: It's first, you know, worship God, you know, and then

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respect your mom and dad, and then everything else in

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the back end is all trying to create peace within

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your neighbors. So everything we do in life, and that's

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personal and moral, spiritual, uh, to a degree, is driven

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and sports wise, business wise is based off comparative competitive culture.

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Kyle Whittingham may not retire. I don't think he will.

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He's gone three in a row losses to BYU. He's livid,

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he doesn't. His legacy has been built off of beating BYU.

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Not winning championships in the PAC twelve I believe that,

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and a defunct one at that. It's not it doesn't

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even exist anymore because it was so.

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Speaker 3: Shiity. It was it was all reason. It was full

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of fecal matter.

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Speaker 4: So he won a conference that no longer exists, or

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was a co champion and then a champ, you know

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what I mean. He went to the Worlds Bowl. It

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doesn't even exist anymore because it was so crappy. BYU

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went five and zero against the same teams without any

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sort of infrastructural influx of money, no TV money outside

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of the little anybody thing that they had going with ESPN,

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and they beat all those teams, right, the defunct trash

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that one, the confidence of champions that was incompetent in

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so many ways. That's what Kyle winning had built is

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his legacy off of purportedly no, the legacy is built

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off of beating his neighbor BYU.

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Speaker 3: And now he's ticked. He's like, no, give me that

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five hundred million.

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Speaker 4: I'll go buy Who's been the loudest regionally about nil.

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Speaker 3: It's Kyle.

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Speaker 4: Kyle's been like, oh, we got money, money at resources money,

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we gotta go buy players. We gotta buy players, We

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gotta buy players. Look at who's winning. Oh it's Texas Animal. Well,

470
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they bought players. You gotta go buy him, gotta buy him.

471
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So who's executing this at a rap a ludicrous speed.

472
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It's Utah baby, And it's led by the most competitive

473
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person that I probably know in the state, the most

474
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petty competitive, which is Kyle Winningham Like I believe that,

475
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And I would say to a certain degree, the commissioner

476
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or not the well, not the commissioner, the athletic director

477
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Mark Carlin you know what I mean, Like he's probably

478
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at the forefront of this, and the university Presidency's like, hey,

479
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all right, if this is what it takes to win,

480
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if this is what we got to do to win,

481
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to stay relevant, to beat our neighbor, that's what it's about.

482
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The dry Like much of the arms race is neighborly enmity.

483
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It is comparative competitive culture that is in every five

484
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fiber of our natural man being, period, period.

485
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Speaker 5: And it's right there. This isn't stuff that will happen.

486
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Is stuff that is happening.

487
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Speaker 3: It's happening.

488
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Speaker 5: Contrast to the recruiting classes that were just signed B

489
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what you call up in Utah got Celesti moa props.

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Speaker 4: Well, the reason why you the reason why you you

491
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lost Celessie though, B why you had ice and right

492
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and it just didn't work out A BYU.

493
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Speaker 3: They weren't playing.

494
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Speaker 4: They were kind of a little bit of like in

495
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between ers, like not a d N not an outside linebacker,

496
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all those things. And so Iceman went to Michigan State

497
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I think was yukonnor or Weber I think anyway, love

498
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Ben Moa by the way, and I look, I'm sure

499
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they I'm sure, they handed you know, Celesia a nice,

500
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big fat bag.

501
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all the money they were gonna give the Pula twins.

502
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Speaker 3: Bro, Yeah, all the money they're getting the pult because hey,

503
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that goes to you.

504
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, that goes to probably exactly what happened.

505
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Speaker 3: That's okay, and that's all right. Celessi's a baller. So

506
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unless he's really good, that was a great pickup for me.

507
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Speaker 1: Top recruiting in the entire state.

508
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Speaker 4: But you know, BYU as a whole cleaned up twenty

509
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top twenty one in the country, top twenty in the

510
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country in their recruiting class.

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Speaker 1: They got some dudes, They got some guys. Yeah, can

512
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I prop la petti mawala?

513
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Speaker 3: Right, you can't.

514
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Speaker 5: I told you this about I just interviewed this kid

515
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the other night, this kid, and seldom you interview a

516
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,799
high school kid that you think you're talking to a

517
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thirty five year old man with three kids. This kid

518
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,519
is so tremendous. B Why you is getting high character guys.

519
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,599
They're not just getting top recruits, they're getting high characters.

520
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,119
Kawa kana. I'd say the same thing for love that kid.

521
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This class is going to be special. I think you're

522
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gonna look back at what b way you is bringing

523
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,200
in in twenty twenty six, and you're gonna that's when

524
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it started. That's when b where you start to reach

525
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this next tier. I am so high on this recruiting class.

526
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And you know who knows it better than anyone, or

527
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as well as any was the University of Utah.

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Speaker 1: They want to get those guys.

529
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Speaker 5: Kaweakana goes to the University of Utah ten times out

530
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of every ten times over the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, he goes to the University.

532
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Speaker 5: I guess who arepened in first University of Utah before

533
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,240
you've been played. He went to Bayu. Utah never loses

534
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:27,880
those guys. They're losing them now. I guarantee you that

535
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,920
was that was That was a big shift. So if

536
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you're a Utah band man, you've got to be proud

537
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,000
of your institution and your program. They're putting out all

538
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,720
the stops, they're being creative and prompts to the University

539
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:40,039
of Utah. I don't like giving you the University of

540
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,119
Utah props, but if this fails, rip a dozen. This

541
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is a very necessary move. Utah had to do this

542
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880
because it is slipping away and is slipping away past.

543
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,319
You look at this next year Utah. Their whole team

544
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,240
was that offensive line. The entire team, skip us, no quarterbacks,

545
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,640
stop it.

546
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:57,039
Speaker 3: Ah.

547
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Speaker 5: You're giving a gash your age everywhere. You lose every

548
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,640
single one of them. You does in crisis. I'm telling you,

549
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,759
they know this. They need to sign guys now. They

550
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:10,079
need to go fast or it's gonna slip away. And

551
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:13,079
it's gonna slip away really fast. They still think they're

552
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:15,480
getting into that Big ten conference come twenty twenty.

553
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,039
Speaker 3: They're trying to position themselves.

554
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 5: They got the position, so problems with the University of

555
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,799
Utah were putting out all the stops because this was

556
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,359
a very very necessary move and I think it's ultimately

557
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gonna work.

558
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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 3: Brent.

560
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Speaker 4: Always bring the hammer before we get out of this segment.

561
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Any thoughts, any commentary, anything that's that you wanted to

562
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:33,359
chie in on here.

563
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Speaker 9: I don't have anything concrete, but I again, you're a

564
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man who appreciates a good conspiracy.

565
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
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Speaker 9: I do wonder, Oh here we go. I do wonder

567
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:50,240
two things. Yes, A is that why everyone donors? Everybody

568
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,079
in BYU was so rushed last week to get this

569
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,079
Kalanie Sataki and il budget increased, all the coaches increased

570
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because maybe they knew that this was coming down the line.

571
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Speaker 1: And furthermore, I've heard him.

572
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Speaker 3: Because again this is not new.

573
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 9: People don't realize like I hadn't heard this, but there

574
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are people who knew that this was coming.

575
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Speaker 3: So my second thing is Kyle Whittingham.

576
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 9: We were told had to submit written assignment that he

577
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:21,240
was either staying or leaving as of I think it

578
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,640
was last Saturday. Now he could have submitted it and

579
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,240
we don't know, but I think a lot of people

580
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,279
thought he was going to retire.

581
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: Did they lure.

582
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 9: Him out of going into retirement by telling him, Hey,

583
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,920
five hundred million is coming down the line, and you're

584
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,880
gonna be able to buy any everything whatever you want.

585
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: We will get you that money.

586
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Speaker 9: I wonder who knew about this and how decisions were

587
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,920
made the last couple of weeks ahead of this decision.

588
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a conspiracy theory. I think that's

589
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:48,440
probably spot off.

590
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's probably some competitive U you know,

591
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,119
can good job little conspiracy theory that it doesn't seem

592
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,599
so conspiratorial. Like I think that's that's probably valid. Probably

593
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,599
valid man, and look like I think the thing that

594
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:10,000
that makes me I'm I'm a very I think I'm

595
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:13,279
a very positive person. I'm a pragmatic person as well.

596
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,799
I think the thing that's saddening to me is like

597
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:20,559
BYU won from nineteen seventy two to present day, Okay,

598
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,920
by spending less than anybody else in college football, They've

599
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,519
won more per dollar spent than any athletic department, any

600
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:35,640
football program in the country. Do you guys realize that, Like,

601
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,119
and anyone that tries to contradict you on that, they

602
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,759
tries to, you know, retort Lavelle Edwards in two thousand

603
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,599
after taking his team to a Natty, you know, creating

604
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,480
Heisman Trophy wonders joke walker Ward.

605
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:51,279
Speaker 3: I mean, eventually there's a dope. The next year, Luke Staley, like.

606
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,599
Speaker 4: They were averaging I think it was eight nine wins

607
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,079
a season, okay, and they were only paying level okay,

608
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:03,079
two hundred thousand dollars a year. Like he's probably one

609
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:06,640
of the lowest paid coaches in college football at that time.

610
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,839
Speaker 3: Only recently have we seen an influx.

611
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Speaker 4: And it's only because what why Well, because it's now

612
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,880
it's fair to pay players and have more resources, and

613
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,200
you find you finally got TV some more TV money, right,

614
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,960
and they're more profitable now than ever as an athletic department.

615
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,119
But we didn't get to be a part of the

616
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,200
cheating like bagman culture that was a part of the

617
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,319
SEC because I think we had plenty of money within

618
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:41,000
the church, within within the sponsors and corporate sponsorship likes

619
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:44,599
have Mormons and Latter day Saints, those that love BYO,

620
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,920
they always had funds to support. Yeah, if it had

621
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,440
been proper, if it would have been legal, right then

622
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,799
we probably would have went bit one more than one.

623
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: Natty.

624
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:58,039
Speaker 4: I'm telling you like I'm telling you right now, like

625
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:07,200
had this been institute, this landscape in the eighties, game over, Bro,

626
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,680
you know what's crazy I've been doing due diligence. Notre

627
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:15,519
Dame is out of the college football playoff. They love

628
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:21,400
their independence. Do you know what drove them to become independent?

629
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: Do you guys know?

630
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:28,279
Speaker 4: It was anti Catholicism around the universities everywhere, So they

631
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:32,599
had to go travel everywhere around the country and build

632
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,640
up their brand and figure out ways of winning.

633
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,759
Speaker 3: They were independent.

634
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: Because of all the anti Catholic universities around them. No

635
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,079
one would play them, no one would would associate with them.

636
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,200
It's pretty crazy the story. I just I didn't know this.

637
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,359
You guys didn't know this.

638
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: Now I'm like, I was like, oh my gosh, this

639
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:56,799
is valid.

640
00:33:56,839 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: I was doing a little independent study this morning in

641
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,599
the early Madrugada, as they say in Spanish, and I

642
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,960
was like, this is crazy. I'm like, so I understand

643
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,920
why they're like so hell bent also on staying independent,

644
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:19,199
because they've always felt like any uh, demoralized religious people

645
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:23,840
that has been criticized and that has been persecuted in

646
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,079
some way, you know, has been attacked Jews, Catholics, Mormons,

647
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,440
like we're like, hey, now now we're part of the club. Now,

648
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,400
like we want to be a part of the club.

649
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,519
We don't want to be we don't want to be outcasting.

650
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,440
We're big twelve all the way. We don't forget this independence,

651
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,639
but we don't have the cachet that Notre Dame has

652
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,360
and the power and pomp and circumstances around all the

653
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,199
resources either.

654
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,039
Speaker 3: But I found it interesting that that that that.

655
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Speaker 4: Notre Dame was kind of forced into independence because of

656
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,559
anti Catholicism.

657
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: There was an anti Catholicism movement.

658
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 4: There wasn't JFK Like remember when he became like it

659
00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:00,480
was like, no, we can't have a Catholic big thing.

660
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:01,559
Speaker 3: It was huge.

661
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 4: I mean you wonder too, is that why he was

662
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:09,039
one of the many reasons why he was he was murdered, assassinated. Anyway,

663
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I'm going off, I'm going off on stuff here, But

664
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like you, you begin to realize a little bit like

665
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Speaker 3: Today. You know a couple of.

713
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,519
Speaker 4: Things here uh as we delve into our question and

714
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:52,039
pull the day.

715
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:55,039
Speaker 3: Look, you know, I went off on a bit of

716
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:55,559
a of.

717
00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: A diet tribe about not only private equity, but also

718
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,159
uh you know the cheating bag men of the SEC.

719
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Five teams are in the College Football Playoff from the SEC, Like,

720
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,000
are those teams the best teams in college football?

721
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:13,599
Speaker 1: Is the question?

722
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: Do they deserve to be there? Three from the Big Ten?

723
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Well, there's two that.

724
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,079
Speaker 5: I can guarantee you will do nothing and that's Alabama

725
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:19,840
and Oklahoma.

726
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah nothing, Well, I mean they go against each other.

727
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,480
It's a rematch.

728
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: That's probably good.

729
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,119
Speaker 3: That's that's why they did it. That's why they did it.

730
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:31,599
Speaker 4: They seed it in such a way that you don't

731
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,639
look silly against other conferences, that.

732
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: It's all strategic.

733
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,199
Speaker 4: Guys like like Hunter, Yurchik is just a mouthpiece for

734
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,639
someone that's much much smarter, like typically and you guys

735
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:52,000
know this, like look typically okay in in the former uh,

736
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:56,000
in the former traditional media world. Okay, give me your

737
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,960
thoughts on this, Like the the powers that be put

738
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:02,880
the dummy in front of the microphone and the camera

739
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,119
and like, hey, to speak to the teleprompt.

740
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: It's a teleprint.

741
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,199
Speaker 4: This is what you're gonna say. We're in a new

742
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,079
world now where you have a lot of people in

743
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:13,519
the media, right. You know that's why Elon was trying

744
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,519
to say free speech, because, uh, you had this massive

745
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:22,239
traditional media world that was just reading the teleprompter everywhere, right,

746
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,199
and you were being incentivized to read the teleprompter and

747
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:28,760
Rotten g Man's gurney g Man's nodding his head in

748
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,280
a cord Hunter your check is just a dummy with

749
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,519
the mic in front of him being told what to say,

750
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,599
because you can you can tell he has no free

751
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:43,599
thought of his own. Yeah, Like there's like it's it's blatant. Yeah,

752
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,360
Like yeah, he's like, well do this six seven thing.

753
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:49,800
It's not even his joke. It was someone that's much

754
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,679
smarter than him that was like, hey, let me give

755
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,599
you something and maybe it'll build rapport.

756
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,599
Speaker 3: Right, Like there, he's dumber than a bag of bricks.

757
00:39:56,599 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: Who knows, a lot of people get raised into problem

758
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,320
and it's not because of their competency, but because of

759
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,000
their stupidity, and they'll do what others want them to do.

760
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:11,320
The puppeteering of politics, the puppeteering of even corporate America,

761
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,280
sometimes so in this particular, and especially in certain high

762
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,760
academic institutions, right high academic anyway, What I'm getting at

763
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:30,440
here is this situation is unprecedented in the college football landscape,

764
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:35,559
and Utah credit to them is figuring out a way

765
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:42,960
to advance competitive right that comparison culture. Right now, they've

766
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,639
lost three in a row to BYU. There's speaking of

767
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:52,280
conspiracy theories. BYU lost there their starting quarterback, Ta Shore.

768
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,800
I had plenty of conspiracy theories coming at me when

769
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,199
that thing all went down the law firm that's associated

770
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,039
with with with the Jane Doe and where Jane Doe

771
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:05,760
attended school, and you know how this all went down.

772
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,079
Conspiracy theories, right, they're unsubstantiated, but you wonder how this

773
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:14,800
all went down. Jake, Congratulations he's going to the cos

774
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,519
football playoff with Tulane. BYU is not they're going to

775
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:19,719
the Pop Tarts ball It is what it is. But

776
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:24,679
congratulations to Utah for engaging in an aggressive manner. How

777
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:29,800
does this impact do you think BYU Athletics gmat.

778
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,639
Speaker 5: I think it could be a positive because b WA

779
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,280
responds b Way, He's in it.

780
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: That's what b Way. He's proven in the recent weeks.

781
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: And to Brett's point that they knew something was coming down,

782
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,679
they had to make a response.

783
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:43,199
Speaker 1: They know all this.

784
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 5: I like Bwayu's autonomy, it's ability, and its donors, and

785
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,960
I think BWA can be very creative so.

786
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,639
Speaker 1: Far as the Board of Trustees approves.

787
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,039
Speaker 5: But I think it's ultimately gonna be good for both

788
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,039
the University of U and for BWAU because I think

789
00:41:59,079 --> 00:41:59,800
b Way's in it.

790
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:00,639
Speaker 1: They want to win.

791
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:02,599
Speaker 5: They have some very aggressive guys that believe in the

792
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:05,360
nature of the program and all that. If utah is

793
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,599
can respond in this way Bwe's can respond back, I

794
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:11,239
think it's gonna be great. I mean, the side effect

795
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,800
is almost bway fans of what Utah to fail it

796
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,960
felt spectacularly.

797
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: Probably not gonna happen.

798
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,639
Speaker 5: There's a lot of interest there, but I think in

799
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:21,920
the long run, it's gonna boo your own program. But

800
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,840
I still like Bwau's autonomy. I like it it's structure.

801
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,519
I like its donor base a lot better than Utah's.

802
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,760
And I think ultimately that's probably gonna win out. But

803
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,239
if if it's really as dirty as we think it

804
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,159
is and they're willing to take substantial losses on the

805
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:37,679
backs of the Utah.

806
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:50,119
Speaker 3: Tech Welcome back.

807
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 4: Uger sports one of three nine ninety eight point three

808
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,320
ESPN the fan of Ben Cornolso we had a little technical difficulties.

809
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,400
We're back though, getting into our question and poll of

810
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,599
the day. G Man, you were discussing the impact that

811
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,760
private equity up on the hill in Salt Lake City

812
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,440
at the University of Utah has on Brigham Young University.

813
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 5: What raises the stakes Utah is going to benefit off

814
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,039
of this. I don't think there's any question about that.

815
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:15,840
Short term, for certain it will. I like b way

816
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,159
U's ability to respond though. There's a lot of autonomy,

817
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,000
and it's proven that a lot of people are gonna

818
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,440
step forward because.

819
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: They're in it.

820
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 5: And when these guys are in it, they don't just

821
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:29,599
retreat and yeah, okay, I'll play it.

822
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: Whatever. They're gonna keep coming. That's what I believe be

823
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,079
what he's gonna do.

824
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,199
Speaker 5: That's why you like Brian Santiago as athletic director first

825
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:40,719
of all, because why is the athletic director Because he's

826
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,000
really good with the donor base and really good at

827
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:46,199
raising money and getting these guys to respond. You me,

828
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,880
Brian Santiago was just gonna sit back, Oh wow, wow,

829
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,800
good well play to Utah. No, They're gonna keep coming.

830
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,920
And I like Bay's ability to respond. There's a lot

831
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,920
of people that are very What was interesting is after

832
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,280
Klone's press conference where he did the deal, I talked

833
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,800
to a lot of important people and the number one

834
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,840
thing in their minds was and they told stories and

835
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,760
antidotes about how BYU is being able.

836
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:14,519
Speaker 1: To spread its message so much more effectively.

837
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: Now talking about stories about touching non members whatever, that's

838
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:22,880
the that's the aspect of BAU football, and giving money

839
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,880
is going to help that. And these guys are all

840
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,199
in So I like Bay's ability to respond.

841
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the caveat with this is you just gonna

842
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,280
get better. No one wants to that.

843
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,119
Speaker 5: If you're BYU, he want that program to fail. But

844
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:36,119
by virtue of that, I hate to say, because it

845
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:39,960
sounds so pollyanish, the programs still make each one another better.

846
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,559
Good you tell us, not a bad thing for b

847
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,599
YU a competitive product to push BYU.

848
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: In that regard, So so I like it in that way.

849
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 4: G Man by my side, Brett always bringing the hammer.

850
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,360
Look this, Uh, what what will BYU athletics do?

851
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,039
Speaker 3: They've already done it right? What are they doing right now?

852
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:58,159
Speaker 1: They're uh?

853
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,599
Speaker 4: The The thing is that we have to continually bifurcated

854
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:05,800
and continually separate. The donors are the one booing up

855
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,639
BA athletics. Corporate sponsorships are booing up BOA Athletics. The

856
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,840
Church of Jesus Christ, the latter states is not using

857
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,320
ties and offerings and their own funds to pay Kilane

858
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,559
or pay.

859
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,559
Speaker 3: J Hill, or pay anybody else.

860
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:25,639
Speaker 4: Does everyone realize that I have to continually have this conversation.

861
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: Hey, you've explained this for twelve years.

862
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 4: Now I have to explain it to BYU fans. I

863
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,519
have to explain it like like, oh, I'm just concerned.

864
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:35,320
We just spent nine and a half million dollars. The

865
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,639
church is spending nine a half million dollars you know

866
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:38,760
in Kloni'm.

867
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: Like no, they didn't, No, they didn't.

868
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:47,159
Speaker 4: Brian Santiago went to Crumble, went to uh future costs,

869
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:51,440
went to you know, just name all who knows all

870
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,320
the different corporate sponsors right now, just look at all

871
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,760
the sponsors, Domo, whoever it is, and said, hey, we

872
00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:01,679
got to pay our coat, we got to pay our coaches,

873
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,480
and we have to pay for nil. Do you guys

874
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:06,679
want to win? And are you doing it the right way?

875
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:09,239
The only thing that the churches US Christ the Letter

876
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:16,280
Saints can do is anything that is shared building wise,

877
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:21,800
infrastructure wise. Meaning if Lavelle Edwards Stadium is not owned

878
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,679
by the Athletic Department, the IPF is not owned by

879
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,639
the Athletic Department, as much as I want it to be, it's.

880
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:33,639
Speaker 3: Not owned by it. Any building the sa B is not.

881
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:37,039
Speaker 4: Owned by the Athletic Department, the only thing that the

882
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:42,159
Church Uscritional Letter Saints can do is upgrade buildings that

883
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,119
the athletic department can also participate in.

884
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,039
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

885
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: I never thought about that.

886
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: That's it.

887
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 4: That's the only thing the church can do, the only

888
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,000
thing that they're willing to do until they'll they'll let

889
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,840
you play in your sandbox athletics, as long as it's

890
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,400
self sustaining. Once again, what you kill, So I will

891
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,280
continue to reiterate this.

892
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: This is a hobby for.

893
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:11,639
Speaker 4: Sponsors, donors that love BYU athletics and think it's an

894
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:12,639
ambassadorial tool.

895
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: They some of them just want to win.

896
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,039
Speaker 4: They don't care if it's an ambassadorial tool or a

897
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:20,679
tool for good. But foundationally, you have to have it

898
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:25,400
as a ambassadatorial tool. Otherwise the Brethren could eventually just

899
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,800
say sorry, you don't get to play in your sandbox anymore.

900
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: You're grounded, get back in the house. Does that make sense?

901
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,639
So that's the only thing they can do. They can

902
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:36,280
continue to.

903
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:41,119
Speaker 4: Say, hey, you're doing it and realize if you're Utah

904
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:43,119
and you hate what BYU is doing and how they're

905
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:49,000
winning and operating, right because they're self sustaining. The thing

906
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,280
that you want more than anything is for the church

907
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:58,119
to look bad because of BYU Athletics. You want controversy,

908
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,119
you want to you want poor public relations, not meeting

909
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:06,400
the standard. See I told you they can't meet the

910
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:15,360
standard that they've set. Honor code, violation, partying, hedonism, debauchery, debauchery, liciviousness.

911
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,480
That's what UTAH wants more than anything, because if BYU

912
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:22,519
Athletics goes away, they have no other competition. They own

913
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:28,679
the state. So I mean that's what they want. Does

914
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,239
that make sense? Like if I come out a full

915
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,199
circle here, I'll.

916
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: Tell you one thing.

917
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: I can guarantee you there are going to be offers

918
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,960
to b what you players from up on the hill.

919
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:42,039
Oh yeah you Oh my goodness, Alatyl saw Tolly probably

920
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:46,559
target number one. There's a man they're common booed up by.

921
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,679
They're still so angry about the Kanatanovasa defection. They are angry.

922
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,679
They are salty. Now they have the cash, it's time

923
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,320
to get back. Yep, it's that very thing. Bear down

924
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,599
the hatches, man, they're coming. They're coming with a boatload

925
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:02,000
of cash.

926
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: Well it's going to be what about what about Jay Hill?

927
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,440
What about? What I mean?

928
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:11,679
Speaker 4: Anybody that they want from a coaching standpoint, that they

929
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:13,920
want to and they want to inflict the maximum harm

930
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,079
of b Y on b YU. It's gonna they're gonna

931
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:20,000
go with that. Coaches, they're gonna go get them five

932
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:25,639
hundred million dollars. That's not just for players, that's for coaches.

933
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:31,840
That's for coaches. I told you everything we do in life,

934
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:38,079
from a natural man's standpoint, is based off of competitive Okay,

935
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,920
competitive enmity culture, competitive comparison culture between you and your neighbor,

936
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,719
and rivalries.

937
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: Rule the world.

938
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Speaker 4: Rivalry rules college athletics. Bread always bringing the hammer.

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Speaker 9: So again, I'm no private equi expert. How how could

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this backfire? Because that's what I keep seeing online is Oh,

941
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if this falls through, who's gonna be on the hook

942
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,719
for this? What would actually have to happen for something

943
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,199
to quote unquote backfire?

944
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:07,119
Speaker 3: What would that look like?

945
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: Well, you because you're not profitable, right, you're running in

946
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,039
the red, You're you're you're failing, you're going bankrupt, and

947
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,320
who's going to subsidize the failure?

948
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Speaker 3: Like you look at.

949
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Speaker 4: The the two thousand and eight housing crisis market crash,

950
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:31,840
who bailed out Big, Big, firms right that were neck

951
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,559
deep in this.

952
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: It was the government. It was the government.

953
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Speaker 4: Yep, it was tax payer dollars. You're four to one

954
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:41,400
k too big defail. It's the same thing with the

955
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,679
car industry who bailed out the car industry the government.

956
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:50,880
Too big defail. From a local standpoint, if they do fail,

957
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,639
they become less than profitable and they're you know, they

958
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:56,800
all run in the red anyway. But like you know,

959
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,159
that's where it's like, well, private equity has to be profitable, right,

960
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,079
They're gonna figure out a way to be profitable.

961
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: They're gonna engage, and they're gonna be profitable.

962
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,599
Speaker 4: So but if they were to fail, not become profitable, profitable,

963
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:10,639
and they go bankrupt and they're they're there, they they would.

964
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 3: Fall back on well, it's too big to fail.

965
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Speaker 4: We can't have our flagship institutional athletic department that bears

966
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our brand, the University of Utah, fail. No, we need

967
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,559
we need to raise taxes. A lot of a lot

968
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:26,280
of people are moving here. We can't have so many

969
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,599
people move here. We just want them to come in

970
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,760
and and ski on our snow. Does that make sense?

971
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,719
We want people to visit. We don't want you to stay.

972
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,599
And if you do stay, you're gonna get really really

973
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:43,840
high property taxes, You're gonna get really really high income taxes,

974
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:49,760
You're gonna get really really really high taxation everywhere because

975
00:51:49,880 --> 00:52:06,159
all they live to win. I know these people, it's

976
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the same reason why. Like you know, it's like I

977
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,480
remember Bronco Menhaff They're having like the four seasons of

978
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:16,000
like double digit wins, and like, like he was pretty

979
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,440
open about this. He like went to like this like

980
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,360
coaches like forum of coaches that had won a lot

981
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,559
of football games, but they felt empty, like what's now,

982
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:26,280
what's the's next? You know, and it's like and then

983
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,880
you try to find your why. But for many people,

984
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,480
they don't get to that. The highest people like the

985
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:34,039
Urbans that are willing to like win it all costs.

986
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:37,000
I mean, you can't tell me Florida wasn't cheating their

987
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:40,920
way to a national championship. They weren't paying Tim Tebow.

988
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Tim Tebow did it out of the you know, out

989
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:44,800
of the out of the you know, out of christ

990
00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:46,440
like desire to be his best self.

991
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Speaker 3: But in a lot of other people are getting paid

992
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:49,599
to be at Florida.

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00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: You know what, I mean though, like people want to

994
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,960
win and they want to bet the entity that they

995
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,360
have most enmity between them telling you that it's crazy, bro,

996
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:07,719
it's it's uh a strategic aggressive move, no doubt, no

997
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,199
doubt about it. I want to remind you guys that

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you guys need to be tuning in to ESPN the

999
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Fan in the early morn eight twenty am for your

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chance to win a four pack of tickets to an

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advanced screening of Avatar Fire and Ash at the Jordan

1002
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:26,000
Common Megaplex on Tuesday twelve sixteen. So is this every

1003
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:28,760
single day, Ronald, that they're supposed to tune in, tune

1004
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,880
in every single day at eight twenty am, Yes, sir,

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00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:34,920
every day for a chance to win a four pack.

1006
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Why can't we give away some tickets? Damn well, I

1007
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:39,400
don't need some tickets. I want to give away some tickets.

1008
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,320
Choose my language. I served a mission, g man, so

1009
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I can say, I can say, I can say those

1010
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,119
curse wishes did?

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00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,039
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh is that why you served a mission?

1012
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: Well that's the threshold. Why, yes, that's a threshold. You

1013
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,840
cannot curse before you've served a mission.

1014
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:53,599
Speaker 9: In my opinion, I didn't want to go, but I

1015
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:54,880
wanted to be able to curse, so I was like

1016
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,800
two years to be able to say some swear words

1017
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the end of it.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I guess, I guess.

1019
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Speaker 4: It's signing me up for your chance to win a

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four pack of tickets to the advanced screening of Avatar

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Fire and Ash at the Jordan Comments Megaplex. It's gonna

1022
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be on Tuesday, the sixteenth of December. Let's go to break, guys,

1023
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don't go anywhere more to get to We're gonna welcome

1024
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in Matt Brown. Matt's gonna tell us the why this

1025
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,840
could fail or how this could fail, and who's gonna

1026
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,599
be there to booye up a failed private equity venture

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at the University of Utah Coming up next, Matt Brown

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00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,519
of extra points.

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Speaker 3: This is Cougar Sports one of three nine ninety eight

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point three