WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:06.160 Hello, ladies and Jim and welcome to the seven hundred 2 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:09.320 and twelfth episode of the Geek Ferst Podcast. I am 3 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:12.919 the total Eclipse of the Heart Trust now and I'm joined. 4 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:15.359 By Hey, my name's Dolmus. 5 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:19.760 I'm the Granny Style to the field Granny Style. My goodness, 6 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:22.480 I haven't heard that in my life, but here we are. 7 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:25.000 We are back with another Evil Dead. We got some 8 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:27.879 history of this franchise. I did re release all the 9 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.920 retros that we did, god how many years I think 10 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.679 it was like four years ago we did them, so 11 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:36.960 they're back on the feeds now because well, if you 12 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:38.479 want to know what our thoughts are, we reviewed every 13 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:41.640 single one Evil Dead, Evil Dead Too, Army Darkness, Evil 14 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:43.799 Dead twenty thirteen, Evil Dead Rights and now here we 15 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:46.560 are at Evil Dead Burn. So if you want our thoughts, wondering, hey, 16 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:48.079 what do we think about those, you can go back 17 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:50.439 there on the feeds right now. As usual, we're going 18 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:54.520 to give our overalls, our recommendations, our review, all non spoilers, 19 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:56.200 and then we'll do a little break and then we'll 20 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:58.719 warn you, hey, we're in the spoiler wall, and so 21 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:00.920 if you don't want to get any of that, then 22 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.399 go away. If you don't care, then buckle up. But yeah, 23 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:05.560 here we are. Dylan mus what do you think of 24 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.239 Evil Dead burned? Do you have like a quick in 25 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:10.280 case people don't listen to those reviews, give like a 26 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:14.040 quick elevator pitch of your feelings on the Evil Dead franchise, 27 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:16.760 and then I'll see, uh, if you've been burned tonight. 28 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:21.799 Yeah. No, It's it's always fun when you're doing one 29 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:23.439 like this. Because Evil Dead was a series. I had 30 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.079 not seen that all before Evil Dead Rise came out 31 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.920 and we did the retrospective, so I finally went through 32 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:30.799 and watched all those movies back to back, and then 33 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.519 we did the ranking and all that fun stuff. But 34 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:35.439 now now it's been like what two or three years 35 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:37.799 since that movie, and I haven't like revisited any of 36 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:39.920 those movies. So it's like all my Evil Dead was 37 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.079 kind of contained to this like two month long period 38 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:43.719 of my life, and now it's been a couple of 39 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.000 years and I'm kind of revisiting it. And this is 40 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:47.959 a movie that I don't think I ever caught a 41 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:50.439 trailer for once, you know, when it was like a 42 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:54.040 weekly conversation. I was not on that episode. I haven't 43 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.040 been to the movie since Mario, and they're definitely not 44 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:57.840 playing an evil dead Burn trailer at Mario. 45 00:01:58.599 --> 00:01:58.719 Uh. 46 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:01.840 And a couple of times YouTube has tried to serve 47 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:03.400 me one of those ads, but then I hit skip 48 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:05.560 in like three seconds, you know. So I didn't really 49 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.640 know anything about this movie, didn't know what the premise 50 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.960 or setup was, didn't know any of the actors. I 51 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:11.759 don't think I would have known any of the actors anyway, 52 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.360 because they kind of go with some lesser known people, 53 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:17.879 or at least lesser known to me in particular. So yeah, 54 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:20.199 it's fun to get back into this series, and also 55 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.479 to go into a movie with no expectations whatsoever, because 56 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.039 these days, when we're reviewing things talking about trailers all 57 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:27.159 the time, sometimes that doesn't happen as often. So it's 58 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:31.680 fun to go in blind a little bit evil dead Burn. 59 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:35.280 I guess what I'll say about this movie is I 60 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:40.280 feel like, if you just want like a simple movie 61 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:43.199 that has, you know, not much going on in the 62 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.560 plot wise, but you just want some big gory kills, 63 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.800 then like this, you know this movie will get the 64 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:50.120 job done. This it will be a movie for you. 65 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:52.360 There's certainly some moments I had to cringe and look 66 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:57.199 away from the screen because it was so nasty. But overall, 67 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.039 I think as a movie definitely has like an Evil 68 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:02.159 Dead movie. I feel like it didn't really have much 69 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.080 going in the way of character or personality. I think 70 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:07.719 there's something very distinct about all of these movies in 71 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.560 the past, and maybe kind of less so with Rise, honestly, 72 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:14.000 since it is maybe a bit of a deviation from those, 73 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:15.639 and I feel like Burne is kind of as well. 74 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.400 Is there almost just like anthology or something like that, 75 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:22.560 But yeah, I don't. I overall, I think coming away 76 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.879 from this, while I had like an okay time and 77 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:27.280 some of the scenes were kind of fun, I was 78 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.439 pretty underwhelmed with this movie overall. I feel like that, 79 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.560 you know, there's one character that I felt like kind 80 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.919 of invested in, but that was more just like relative 81 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:36.840 to everyone else, who were a bunch of duds in 82 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.240 my opinion. There was some good scenes, of course, some 83 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:41.960 of that good gore, but I also felt like there 84 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:43.879 was a couple of scenes that they're really trying to 85 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.639 build up the suspense and tension, and then it kind 86 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:48.680 of deflated a little bit, Like there's a particular dinner 87 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:51.759 scene that I thought was going super well and then 88 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:53.439 it just like ends in really flat wing. It's like, oh, 89 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:55.280 this is like the most tense movie part of the 90 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:57.599 movie so far, and then I felt like that happened 91 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.840 a couple times unfortunately, And I think some of it 92 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.039 just comes down to like maybe some clunky choreography or 93 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.560 things like that. You know, certain things when you get 94 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:07.280 in a zooming on someone's face getting ripped up by 95 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:09.759 a razor. Obviously that's intense and gross, but I feel 96 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:11.439 like it needs the moments in between to kind of 97 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:13.719 tie those things together and build up the suspense, and 98 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.279 it lacks some of that. Acting is kind of weak, 99 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:21.600 stories super weak. I don't really know what this movie is. 100 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.360 Like Objective was like, I feel like it's kind of 101 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:31.040 just trying to be Gore poorn essentially and like grab 102 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:32.800 a couple of evil dead things. But I don't feel 103 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.279 like it like expands on. Not that the lure is 104 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:37.160 super deep anyway, you kind of have to infer a 105 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:39.079 lot of stuff. But I don't know. I don't feel 106 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:42.360 like this movie is really doing anything particularly unique either. Obviously, 107 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.519 like the burn is in the title and there's a 108 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:48.800 lot of thematicness around fire and burning into this movie 109 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:50.600 without getting into the specifics of it. But I also 110 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.120 I don't know if that really I guess you could, 111 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.079 you know, pull some meaning out of that and love 112 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:58.680 or desire or family or something like that, but I 113 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:00.319 don't know. I think I'd be just g as Meet 114 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.360 Straws to try and find like what exactly this movie 115 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:06.279 was trying to accomplish. So yeah, I think it definitely 116 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:11.959 lacks that Evil Dead, that evil Dead sauce. Maybe you know, 117 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:14.319 not all of them need to be have that comedic 118 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.360 angle because they don't. They definitely don't all have that, 119 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:19.279 but I think that is something that sets to depart 120 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:22.199 from movies that feel very similar. But honestly, other than 121 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:24.720 like an necronomicon being mentioned, I feel like you could 122 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:27.959 this could easily not be an Evil Dead movie at all, 123 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:29.920 is kind of how I feel about it. I'm also 124 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:31.480 not super pressed about the series, so I don't really 125 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:33.160 care too much about that. I was more just like, hey, 126 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:34.920 give me a good horror movie, and even at that 127 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.759 it was like, eh, it's just okay. So yeah, I 128 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.399 think overall pretty underwhelmed. I'd have to really listen to 129 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:42.480 the ranking I don't know where i'd slot this one, honestly, 130 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.920 because I don't love the whole series. I really just 131 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.759 love Army of Darkness and then like a couple of 132 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:50.319 other ones. Well, twenty thirteen was pretty great. But anyway, 133 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.319 I'm rambling now, so all of you guys take the 134 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:53.920 take the fiery biton. 135 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:55.920 I feel like, if I recall I feel like you're 136 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:00.519 like Army of Darkness twenty thirteen, Evil Dead too, evil Dead, 137 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:02.560 and then Rise because you were underwell Rise. 138 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.120 And there's a lot of Rise was pretty underwhelming as well. 139 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:05.439 Yeah, and there's a lot of things in the original 140 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:07.720 you didn't like either, So I think those are cephal 141 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:12.360 nestled safely under the tree there. But would you sworen't 142 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:13.800 doing a re rank amp? So would you put this 143 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:15.959 last in now? Well, I guess you said you'd have 144 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:17.160 to think right, and. 145 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:19.279 I'd have to watch Rise again, which I don't want 146 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:21.759 to do. I feel like I like Rise more. I 147 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:25.319 feel like i've weirdly enough, Yeah, I didn't. I listened 148 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:26.920 to a bit of our review and I was kind 149 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:29.120 of cold on it. But in my mind, I'm like, oh, 150 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.079 I like that movie is fine, but I don't know. 151 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:33.360 So you saw I haveter revisit it, so I'll stick 152 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:35.959 this one at like maybe the bottom or like second 153 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:37.959 from the bottom or something. But I don't know, honestly, 154 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.319 other than like the top two of twenty thirteen and 155 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.560 Army of Darkness, like they kind of just all blend together. 156 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:45.199 To me, it doesn't really matter what the order is. 157 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:47.079 So you saw this one, You're like, you know, Rise 158 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:49.199 wasn't actually that bad, and hello, thinking back to three 159 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:50.079 years ago, you know. 160 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:51.959 You know, honestly, maybe I was just thinking of one. 161 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:55.000 You know, was Sutherland in particular, is such a standout 162 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:56.680 in that movie. I feel like this movie didn't have 163 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:59.519 a standout, whether that's a dead dight or a or 164 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:02.519 a human and protagonists that were following. So maybe that's 165 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.199 something that like when I think back on the movie, 166 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:06.519 I can remember that in some of her scenes, whereas 167 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:09.519 I don't know what from this movie I'm gonna remember 168 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:11.519 like when the next one comes out or two years 169 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:12.319 from now or whatever it is. 170 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.040 We've said this before. There must be some sort of 171 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:17.680 curse with the Evil Dead franchise. Is not the first time, 172 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:19.920 but I thought after that movie, I think I even 173 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.120 drafted her for a year. I thought, oh, listen, lista Sutherland. 174 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:24.720 She's gonna be a bunch of stuff, like how people 175 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:26.600 do not see that performance? Be like, let's let's just 176 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:28.959 like get her in this get not even like comics 177 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.079 of just like anything, just like And I think I've 178 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:33.600 not seen her in a single thing since the same 179 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:35.720 thing we talked about in that retro Bruce Campbell were like, Oh, 180 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.360 he's so charismatic, such a good lead. He's in nothing. 181 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:41.360 Jane Levy, she kills it as a god. What was 182 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.720 her characters is Jane? I think right? No, her name's 183 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:46.959 Jane Levy. What the heck was her name? In twenty 184 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:49.360 thirteen for some reason, no idea. I'll have to I'll 185 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.279 pull it up here because it was bugging me. Here me, Oh, okay, 186 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:54.439 there we go. So I guess I gonna do this 187 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:56.920 in a backwards way I think you were, and I'll 188 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:58.519 go Usually I like to go last, but I think 189 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:03.319 I'm I might be aligned with uh with Dylan. Me 190 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:04.800 and Taylor saw it together, but we didn't say a 191 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:06.560 single word after We didn't say a single word, so 192 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.120 we just kept it to you know, as we do 193 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.639 podcast life. But I've probably been more in line with 194 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.120 Dylan here and think you're talking about that special sauce. 195 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.560 That's the thing where I'm going over those leads. That's 196 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:19.000 something that all I'd say those five because he has 197 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:22.040 five evil dead movies have in common that this doesn't. 198 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.720 That you have, whether it's a dead bite or the 199 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.759 hero lead, you have that one anchor in the movie. 200 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:30.639 You got Bruce Cambell in the first three, you got 201 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.399 Jane Levy as me and Evil did twenty thirteen, who Yeah, 202 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.559 she's a deadite, but she's so fun to watch and 203 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:37.480 she goes back and forth between being a dead bite 204 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.240 and normal like you're rooting for her. And then Alyssa's Sutherland. 205 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.879 She's other than the first act. She is just the 206 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:45.879 moster the whole way through. But she's such dynamite on screen. 207 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.879 That's what this movie is really lacking. It does not 208 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:51.759 have that anchor whatsoever. And I don't think there's anyone 209 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:54.080 like bad bad in here. I don't think there's anyone amazing, 210 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:55.320 but I don't think there's ayone like, oh, they're really 211 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.519 stinking it up. It's just that there's no one that 212 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.320 just like stands out or elevates. But the same I 213 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:02.000 don't think there's a role in here that could have 214 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.559 been that, right, It's not like, oh, they have that 215 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.480 one main thing. And I guess you could say the 216 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:09.759 main character of this And I don't think the lead here, Alice, 217 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.559 is particularly like bad or anything. It's just that even 218 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:14.559 the writing of this character, I don't think there's any 219 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:19.360 standout moments. Right. Obviously, Bruce Campbell very charismatic with me. 220 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:21.559 You have she's trying to get over addiction and drugs, 221 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:23.399 and then with the list of Sutherland, you have the 222 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.840 kids with this character, not big spis my I suppose 223 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:29.919 she's just like she's a widow and there's some relationship 224 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.159 drama with it. But we never dive too deep. It 225 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:35.399 always feels like it's put way in the background, you know, 226 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:37.679 which is a lot of these storylines. It feels like 227 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:39.759 there is surface level stuff. I think this is a 228 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:42.159 you are here for the gore and I'll give them this. 229 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:45.240 There are lots of cool shots in this trade or 230 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:48.000 in this movie somewhere in the trailer, but some weren't. 231 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.840 There's just tons of cool imagery and there's sons of 232 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:52.799 cool that was in the trailer. But there's one where 233 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:54.759 the girl's on the bathroom floor and she gets a 234 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.440 bag put over and then they walk up the whole 235 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:59.240 wall to the roof. They were having fun on the set, 236 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.000 and I think that's where visually it stands out quite 237 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:03.879 a bit. And there's lots of close cuts, there's lots 238 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:07.279 of quick editing, so it has lots of style. I 239 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:10.480 think it just might be a style over substance sort 240 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:12.600 of deal here. And I saw I supposed in the 241 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:15.960 discord he put that he'd heard the bleakest evil Dead yet, 242 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.120 but also the most funniest since, like, you know, because 243 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.600 Rise and twenty thirteen didn't really have that humor. I'll 244 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.120 say they win for that. But the problem for me 245 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:28.399 is a distdann't not much of the humor fit, you know, 246 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:30.320 even I feel like I lacked more and Rise, which 247 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:32.240 was like very dark, dark humor, but I thought I 248 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.759 got more. Chuckles were here. It just kind of felt 249 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.120 like if you're in a comedy club and there's a 250 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:38.480 guy doing jokes. 251 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.759 I can't even think of a single funny moment in 252 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:43.559 this movie. Actually, I think I don't think I had one. 253 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:47.559 I think the Dead Kits are stuff, the Grandma stuff. Yeah, 254 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:49.080 and I think the Dead Dits are a bit more 255 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.759 like jokey here, but like at the end of the day, 256 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:53.600 like when Mia is like, hey, you want to suck 257 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:55.720 your cock? Pretty well, like that's not a joke, but 258 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:57.960 the way Jane Levy and they deliver, it's like, Okay, 259 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.559 this is kind of fucked up and funny. They try 260 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.879 that in this movie, but it just doesn't it doesn't 261 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:05.000 really get there. So yeah, I think, and to go 262 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:06.840 back all the way around, I love Evil Dead. I 263 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.399 Evil Dead. Something I saw very early on, even though 264 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:11.559 it's the funny one. I remember seeing Evil Dead two 265 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:13.600 scaring the shimmy a little bit. Is that scene where 266 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:15.600 Ash turns into a deadite for a little bit, and 267 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:17.200 I saw it way too young, and just the way 268 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.639 he looks that, him going in the water and coming 269 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:22.200 out and being Deadit stuck with me for years until 270 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:24.600 I saw it twenty thirteen I loved. And then I 271 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:27.399 actually really did love Rise as well too. So I've 272 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.480 been very happy with this franchise. And I said, because 273 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.200 in twenty thirteen that was a big hit, and it 274 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.919 took ten years or yeah, ten years for the make another. 275 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.200 And I always went, why, like their low budget, you know, 276 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.759 there's probably lots of filmmakers that do or have a 277 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.240 vision for this. And then Office Rise came out, was 278 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.080 supposed to go streaming, was a big hit, and then 279 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.120 they go, okay, now it's been three years, and I thought, okay, yeah, 280 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.679 that's more like it. You know, kids, there's a movie 281 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.519 called Session out there. Gotta be careful what you wish for, 282 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:55.080 because there's a few things in this movie that I 283 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:58.120 was like, you know, I think we're doing some things 284 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:00.720 that we've done too many times. I think we're sending 285 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:02.679 things up in like an MC type of way where 286 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:07.519 I'm like, I don't know, so now I'm now a 287 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:10.519 little a little word. Maybe it's best that Evil Dead 288 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:12.440 is like a yeah, every ten years it comes around 289 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:14.519 because Scream has that problem nowadays too. Write me and 290 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:16.639 Tary review that. It's like what else is there to 291 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.120 do now? And I am excited for the next one, Rath, 292 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.399 because they're going back the seventies and that's supposed to 293 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:23.279 be like a sexual coming of age thing, and that 294 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.000 already feels like that has a take. And my last point, 295 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:27.879 just to Dylan's point, Yeah, it just feels like there 296 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:30.720 isn't much of a full take here. It feels like 297 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:35.039 it's there, but that's really buried underneath the gore and 298 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.960 the creepiness. And yeah, I didn't attach to any characters. 299 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.440 I don't know. I don't think I'll never watch this again. 300 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:43.120 It's not a bad movie. I had a good time. 301 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:45.000 It's a fun horror movie. I think it's better made 302 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:46.919 than a lot of other horror I shouldn't say that, 303 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:49.000 but just a lot of probably stuff out there that 304 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:53.120 is in the genre, just from a filmmaking point of view. 305 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.799 But I don't know when i'd watched this again. I'm 306 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.039 sure I will at some point in my life, but 307 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:00.279 I'm not. It's not like Rise or twenty three Team 308 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:01.879 and where it's like, oh man, well that's on streaming, 309 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:03.559 that's on blue ray. I can't wait to pop that 310 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.399 back in and go on that roller coaster right again. 311 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:08.000 This felt like a roller coaster of like, Okay, I'm 312 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:09.399 ready to get off. I know we've been here for 313 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.000 a bit, but I'm I'm good to go. And it 314 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:13.519 felt long. I'll look while Taylor's talking about all the 315 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.559 run times is compared, it's only an hour fifty two, 316 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.399 But many times I was like, okay, let's round it 317 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:23.759 out here. So yeah, so again, not bad. I would 318 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:25.840 recommend it. If you're a fan of the franchise, absolutely, 319 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.279 if you like torture porn, absolutely, If you're kind of 320 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:29.879 maybe more on the fence, like if you're like Dylan 321 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:31.639 where you like some but you don't like others, I 322 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.600 think you can wait for streaming for this one. There 323 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:35.360 is some great visuals, don't get me wrong. So I 324 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:38.960 guess if you're a visual like camera cineatography not then sure, 325 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.200 but I don't think it is Uh, you got to 326 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.200 run out to see this one unfortunately, so that that 327 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.039 which is kind of a bummer. But you know, we'll 328 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.799 see what happens. So Taylor run us out here. What 329 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:49.879 did you think of? What is your history of the 330 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.080 Old Dead quickly? You know Elevator pitch and then your 331 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:53.440 thoughts on this movie? 332 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:57.399 Uh yeah, so my my history goes back to uh, 333 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:00.519 eve'l Dead two was the one that kind of introduced 334 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:01.679 me into this franchise, Cmember. 335 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:03.080 I was younger, and I put. 336 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.120 It on and I don't know what it was, but 337 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.519 there was just certain visuals in this movie that just 338 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:12.840 really roped me in. Uh it's Ash's girlfriend, just the 339 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:15.600 head rolling around on the decapitated body, and just like 340 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.720 the dancing scene or just when the other crew, like 341 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.600 after ash is fighting the Dead, Night's the other crew 342 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.080 of people show up and then it's just it's chaos 343 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:26.039 or by don you know, Granny and the Base. But 344 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:29.039 there's so many different things going on in that movie, 345 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:31.399 and that's just what really pulled me in, uh so, 346 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:37.039 getting into yeah, the Original and then Army of Darkness 347 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.679 and then ash Re's Evil Dead, which I think is 348 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.320 just like a it's a I don't say guilty pleasure 349 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:43.879 because it's not like it's a bad show. It's just 350 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:48.240 it's a it's a crazy, flamboyant, comedic heck of a time, 351 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.960 and I enjoy a lot of that. It's just it's 352 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.080 it's a hell of a ride. But uh yeah, ever 353 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.639 since then and everything that we've kind of had introduced, 354 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.120 it's just such an interesting universe. And it's just there's 355 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:00.679 so many little things with it comes to the Dead 356 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.399 Dights that I find curious, like their weaknesses, how they 357 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.720 spread and how you get infected with you know, the 358 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.679 the pet this the dead Ight, whatever you want to 359 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:12.320 call it. And then it's just there's so many different 360 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:15.200 kind of things that are just okay. They're always changing 361 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.159 the kind of cannon or the way that they're doing things, 362 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:19.360 and I kind of like, I'm fine with that because 363 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:20.919 it's just kind of trying to keep up and just 364 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:24.000 kind of learn more about this universe. So getting into 365 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:28.759 this one, I feel like it was the most tame 366 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:32.480 in terms of gore. I feel like Rise and twenty 367 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.440 thirteen were way above in terms of its gore, and 368 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:37.879 like there's some of the craziness, yeah, like. 369 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:40.600 The stuff in har but so below. 370 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:45.159 I'm surprised on that this Like there's some great gross 371 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.759 moments in here, but when you compare it to like 372 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:51.480 twenty thirteen's Evil Dead, the tongue stuff. 373 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:53.360 You know, and you got like the kids, what they're 374 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:55.320 doing a Rise, like eating glass and all these other 375 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.679 like gross disgusting things. 376 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.399 Like there's just there's a lot. 377 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.320 Of that kind of stuff that I feel like is 378 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:05.320 a little bit higher than here in this movie. I 379 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:07.840 feel like, Okay, there's at least two scenes that just 380 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.320 really grossed me out that I think like, like, ah, but. 381 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:15.799 What I do around? I was moving around. I was 382 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:16.320 moving around. 383 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:17.639 Yeah, I had no more M and M, so I 384 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.000 couldn't I couldn't bite my way out of it. But 385 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:24.840 I think that these modern day Evil Dead films, like 386 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.559 you guys highlighted the way they shoot some of these scenes, 387 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.360 they're fantastic. Like you mentioned, Travis, the bathroom scene and 388 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.559 this one was great. You know, you go to Rise, 389 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:34.600 you get that hallway scene through the people, which is 390 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:37.679 just fucking terrifying and intense. You get all these awesome 391 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:40.000 even the intro to Rise too. I was hoping we 392 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:41.879 get a banger intro here, but it didn't for me. 393 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.120 It didn't compete with Rise get that music and every way. 394 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:46.799 Until we get this boys, I even thought they were 395 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:49.679 sending something up. It could have been cheesy, but I'll wait. 396 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:51.360 But they were like zooming on a way. I'm like, oh, 397 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:53.080 they got something cooking here. And then it was just 398 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.039 the graphic. But it's hard to pull that off every time. Right, 399 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:57.320 that was a unique one. 400 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.759 But all in all, I feel like I'm not over 401 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.160 the moon for this, this addition to the franchise. I'm 402 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:09.279 definitely I can appreciate it and enjoy it. My biggest 403 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.240 thing in terms of appreciating it would be I actually 404 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:13.359 like the kind of. 405 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:18.160 I didn't like, how do I say this. 406 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.240 I like how they were kind of trying to expand 407 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.920 and tap into little things that they've created in all 408 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:26.880 the different movies. You can see like oh, well, this 409 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.000 scene is like paying tribute to this and the franchise 410 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:31.759 of this, Like, oh, you got these different things going on. 411 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:36.000 It feels like, Okay, they've taken the universe and kind 412 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:38.559 of culminated it into the events in this movie, and 413 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.240 they've introduced some different things that I liked, like well, 414 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.359 I'll say that for spoilers, but the thing that got 415 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.480 too far fetched for me was the. 416 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:51.160 The two post credits. 417 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:52.440 I'm not going to say what they are, but you 418 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:55.599 have one that I feel like, Okay, this enhances the 419 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.640 story and another one which is just kind of like 420 00:17:58.079 --> 00:17:59.920 a right turn, and I feel like, Okay, this is 421 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.559 where we'll get to Wrath. Wrath is obviously a prequel, 422 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.640 I'm and I mean, time travel is obviously a thing 423 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:07.799 with evil dead. 424 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.200 I doubt they're going to touch upon that, and here 425 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:10.920 I be. I don't. 426 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:12.480 I don't think we're going back to that. I think 427 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:15.000 that's a one and done thing with the comedic side 428 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.200 of things. But when you look at what they're doing 429 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.119 and what they were setting up with this movie. I 430 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.839 feel like, Okay, we need more Evil Dead sequels now 431 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.720 to explain this stuff, unless it's all supposed to cull 432 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:31.319 into one more movie where things kind of converge in 433 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:34.960 each other. But then story wise, it doesn't seem to 434 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.599 make sense at least maybe I'm missing something. But we'll 435 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:39.279 break it down at spoilers when we get to it, 436 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:40.960 because I feel like I have a couple of questions 437 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:42.680 regarding I like that. 438 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:44.599 You're trying to make sense of anything. It's like there's 439 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.359 some fucking book in a like a cabinet, or they're like, oh, 440 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:50.400 there's a fourth book and that explains X, Y and. 441 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:53.119 Z, Like there's books with notes you know, people have written. 442 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.079 There's like twenty thousand books out there, no notes ever on. 443 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:58.440 The cover of the first page. And just don't read this, 444 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:00.920 just put it back. They always that for the back half, 445 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:02.400 like oh, and if you say these four wards but 446 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:05.039 don't do it, they'll cause great harm and problems. And 447 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:07.519 but who knows that could be a reason of why them, 448 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:10.480 like the past two have done so well. Maybe they're 449 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:12.079 getting a bit big for their bridges, Like oh, we 450 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:14.119 can start to really expand this thing. But that's where 451 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.640 just you gotta be careful, you know, you just gotta 452 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.359 like again, are people it's like, we've a couple of 453 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:21.480 other franchises. Do they want to be there for an 454 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:23.200 Evil Dead movie or do they want to be there 455 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:25.599 for Evil Dead the franchise? And it's like, I don't 456 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:27.160 know about that, Like I guess we'll see, we'll see 457 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.039 what happens with this one, but like then to start 458 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:31.640 committing to because even like it's we've saw this in 459 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:33.559 the trailers and they only showed one thing before we 460 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:35.960 getting spoils that like this was connected to Rise and 461 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:38.359 that is the opening up this movie. So that's never 462 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:41.680 other than and even the Ash movies. They're all connected, 463 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.519 but in like a very weird, like loose way, right, 464 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:46.480 Like Evil Dead two is like a comedy remake of 465 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:48.799 one and then Army of Darkness. Sure it's connected, but 466 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:50.720 it could be its own thing of like a time 467 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:53.440 travel thing. Right, so we're now we're starting to tinker 468 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:55.440 into that, like, oh, have you seen the last one? 469 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.400 You know who this is? It's like, I don't know, 470 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:02.279 we'll it's just not what I expected from Evil Dead. 471 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:05.240 So but I do think yous to I think that 472 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:08.519 I don't know if they'll go back to time traveling comedy, 473 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:10.799 but I do think they should at some point. I 474 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.880 think that's something that I really hope with Wrath, even 475 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:14.640 if it's not a gore fest, I hope it's a 476 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:16.759 little bit different because if they never go back to 477 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.559 calm and again, I prefer my two favorites are Evil 478 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:23.279 Dead and twenty thirteen. I prefer the darker stuff. But 479 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:25.680 that was always the fun thing about Evil Dead was 480 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.039 the kind of back and forth, and I just worried 481 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:29.960 that they lean too much on this because to me, 482 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:33.000 this feels like a like a baby Brother version of Rise. 483 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:35.000 It feels like a less better version of Rise. So 484 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:37.079 that's where it's like, Okay, I think now you got 485 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:39.119 to take like like you said, or not the right 486 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:41.000 turn you're talking about, but like right turn, Like hey, 487 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:42.960 what what can we do this? You know, like what 488 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:45.079 could and maybe the seventies going back? Maybe you can 489 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:46.440 have some fun there. 490 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.519 I mean, well, I don't know, is the is the 491 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.519 new one that's announced? Is it also just like here 492 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.000 up and coming horror director? Yeah, T see, Like I 493 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:58.440 don't I don't think there's much forward thinking of like 494 00:20:58.480 --> 00:20:59.920 what's the grand plan with this? I think it's just 495 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.400 like Sam Rai Mey being a good guy and being like, 496 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:05.160 hey take this ip. Yeah, you're a young up and comer. 497 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:06.720 I saw one of your movies. I thought it was good, 498 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:08.519 like take a swing at Evil Dead and just take 499 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:10.119 your spin on it. And I don't. I don't think 500 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:12.400 there's probably much more to it, and probably just giving 501 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.160 it to those people who looked up for these movies 502 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:16.920 when they're growing up or becoming filmmakers or something. 503 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:19.319 Yeah, which, yeah, I forgot about that, s bubs because 504 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:21.880 I did watch show back. I've actually after this, I 505 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:23.720 wanted to rewatch the show. I don't know we're streaming. 506 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:25.839 But he says they did time travel and ash For's 507 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:28.119 Evil Dead. There's always another book, Secret Spell, Retual. They 508 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:30.400 can just do anything the plot needs, and I yeah, 509 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:32.680 I think evil that's very comic booking that way, like oh, 510 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:34.720 how does this happen? We'll have them because of this 511 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.680 and then they move on. So but uh yeah, and 512 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:39.359 I guess yeah, that's where if you want their fixed 513 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:42.319 check out the TV show. It's tons of fun. Bruce 514 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.319 Campbell just having a good time with that, and that's 515 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:46.720 way more like Evil Dead two, Army of Darkness type 516 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:50.039 of humor there, but anything else non spoilers. Before we 517 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.440 crack open the spoil I. 518 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:54.359 Will say right when the movie was starting, you know, 519 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:58.920 like the intro scene, it was very quiet and there 520 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.519 wasn't any music play, you know, our theater, but all 521 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:03.960 I could hear from the next door was you're welcome. 522 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:09.319 Like Duayne Johnson was going fucking ham singing. Maana was 523 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:10.000 just loud. 524 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:13.720 Yeah, he was popping off. And then hopefully it's all right. 525 00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:14.839 But at the end of this movie we got an 526 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.160 amber alert. But at first I thought was in the movie, 527 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:18.720 like the loud ringing. I was like, oh, this is 528 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:19.960 a charid. 529 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:21.279 It's happened to your cell phone. 530 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:24.240 Yeah, And that's one thing. It's funny because April said 531 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:26.559 this in our discord and like I don't mean this 532 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.359 to be like an insult or offense as a director, 533 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.240 but like, hey, if you didn't know this director's French, 534 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:35.039 you'll fucking know it twenty minutes into this movie. Because 535 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:36.960 I'm not like a bad thing. It just felt like 536 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.599 there was a point where all right, we get it, 537 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:42.759 Like I don't know, maybe again, that's like. 538 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:44.519 What you're saying I'm curious what you mean by that. 539 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:48.200 Actually, like tons of just French music, French characters. The 540 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:51.519 end credit song is a French pop song. Obviously our 541 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:54.319 leads French. It just felt very It didn't feel like, 542 00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:55.880 oh it was a French director with his flair. It 543 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:58.119 felt very in my face of oh, this is a 544 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:00.759 French director like Evil Dead, it's not have like like 545 00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:03.680 and it'd be different. This movie was in France. It's 546 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:06.440 not in France, you know, it's it's just in America 547 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:09.400 and they're all this like random French stuff going on. 548 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:12.400 All the main character's husband loves French food, like just 549 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:14.519 that type of stuff where he's just like, okay, you know, 550 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:16.880 so hey, if we get Evil Dead, I'll to do that. 551 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:19.359 I'll just have to go heavy on Canadian bacon and 552 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:20.920 A's and everything like that. You know. 553 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:22.960 So that all worked for me, Like I didn't. I 554 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:24.319 didn't think too much into it, but like. 555 00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:25.319 I don't see negative. 556 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:27.359 I just felt like I love I love the French. 557 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:29.200 You know, you got the songs in there and everything 558 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:31.240 and there you know all that she's speaking French like 559 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:32.319 I'm just driving with it. 560 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:33.599 I was eating. It's not a. 561 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:35.519 Negative but I think it'd be different if it was 562 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:37.680 a non French director and be like, Okay, that's a 563 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.680 takedy on. It just felt like, oh, you got a 564 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:41.559 French director and I'm gonna put a lot of French 565 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:43.680 stuff in this movie, right that That's what it just 566 00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:46.799 felt like. It's so that's his life, man, that's his life. Yeah, 567 00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:48.680 that's fine. And I but that's not been evil dead, 568 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:51.920 that's not really had much like Countries. 569 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:54.880 Is filmed in Cologna. 570 00:23:54.920 --> 00:24:00.839 I look at these, I digress, but yeah, anything else, 571 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.200 all right, we're doing the spoils well, so we're gonna 572 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:07.240 take your first ad break. If you've not seen the movie, 573 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:09.599 come back later on and check it out. We will 574 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:13.799 be right back and we're back. You could have listened 575 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:16.079 to Patreon. You could have went to Patreon not got this. 576 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:18.759 Oh my god, I'm gonna start right over there. 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I go back and forth, but that's 588 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:50.640 the most fun day we have here at GV. So 589 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:53.559 check out that. It is worth Uh obviously it will 590 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:55.079 be a vod you watched out for the fact, but 591 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:57.440 it's it's worth being there live. There's a good time. 592 00:24:57.519 --> 00:24:59.519 So we very much appreciated when that joins that and 593 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:01.759 joins us for ju day. And if I just head 594 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:05.880 down below everything, you know, all links are there. Let's 595 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:07.960 just start at the beginning, you know, because you know 596 00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:10.640 that's usually krikal pats or move. But it ties right 597 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:13.079 in her eyes. So we have that girl that she was. 598 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.079 If you don't remember, all that stuff happens in the 599 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:19.680 rise building. She's just going camping, she's gonna drive over. 600 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:22.160 She gets taken over by you know, Ellie and all 601 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:23.799 of them, and then she goes to the cabin. She's 602 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:25.599 all sick. She gets hit in the face with that 603 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:28.119 drone or whatever, and then bad stuff happens. So this 604 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.039 is her where she is now, just in that body water, 605 00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:32.119 swimming going on. 606 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.000 I'm living there for a good minute. It looks like 607 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:34.960 that's her swamp. 608 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.880 Yeah, we don't get any time, you know, like specification 609 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:43.720 of what's going on with her, but she's there. And 610 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.000 we have the scene that these guys are fishing, so 611 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.920 they just want to have some guy time. What his 612 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:53.640 wife keeps calling and keeps going, don't pick it up. 613 00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:55.559 He's like, I gotta take it. So he walks away, 614 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:57.759 and then we kind of get two things here, which 615 00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:00.160 again it's I always go back and forth with dead 616 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:02.599 its right. Sometimes they're just like this meat sacks that 617 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:04.680 really can't do anything. And then you got this dead 618 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:08.240 dight who is just a fucking MS character. The fish hooks, 619 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:10.279 I don't know why, the fish hooks something like fine. 620 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.359 What happens is they have a bunch of rods there, 621 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.319 too many, but they have a bunch of rods there. 622 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:16.839 Whoever this lady is from Rye. She takes all the 623 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:19.720 hooks and the twine and throws it back of the 624 00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.200 guy's fishing, grabs him by the eyes, the mouth everything 625 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.759 like that, pulls him in. He's getting messed up, and 626 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.279 you know, obviously he gets killed. He gets whole. Half 627 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:29.559 his friend gets in a boat, pulls him out, held 628 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:31.200 him for a long time before he knew that he 629 00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.200 was halfed. So I was fine with that. The next 630 00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:35.799 one where she throws the other guy in the water, 631 00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.799 tips the boat and she literally starts to boil the 632 00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:42.640 entire lake. Guys like, all right, I think we're again. 633 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.160 I guess upset in the comment it is eel. Then 634 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.480 they can go as hard as they want. 635 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:48.640 But I think you, guys, seems like she made it 636 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.559 rain too. Yes, rain boys, he's got storm power, she's 637 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:53.079 got storms. 638 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.720 Yes, move set essentially just a bit too far from me, 639 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.079 which again, does that sound stupid in a franchise that 640 00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.160 has time travel? I get it, Yes it does, but 641 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.240 I don't know why. Just like the power gauge on here, 642 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.599 it's okay, then how can I like, how can we 643 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.079 go from God to like, oh, a fork can take out. 644 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.599 Because it's like herd domain and she like has built 645 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:11.960 up her power here or something. 646 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:13.880 Maybe how'd you feel this opening, Dylan? 647 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.680 You know, I actually I quite enjoyed it. I think Uh, 648 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.079 the power level thing doesn't bother me, but maybe I 649 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.839 haven't seen these movies enough to like remember like whatever 650 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.039 character is capable of something. But I thought it was cool. 651 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:29.400 I thought it was fun. I thought the you know, 652 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.400 the the hooks like pulling into the guy's skin absolutely disgusting. 653 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.720 That was nasty. And yeah, I thought it was kind 654 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:38.200 of just fun. 655 00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:39.519 To me. 656 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.640 That was like a fun, nice callback to rise, like 657 00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:44.920 I kind of that character specifically, but also just like 658 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:47.240 the start of that movie being like a big kill 659 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.000 at like a dock or whatever. Too. I thought it 660 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:51.079 was kind of fun to go back through some of 661 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:51.559 that stuff. 662 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:51.880 I know. 663 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:54.240 I thought it was just interesting the way they start 664 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:56.960 with that sequence and then we cut to like, okay, 665 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.680 here's our here's the introduction, like our actual like protagonists 666 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:02.880 and characters in this movie. You get a whole sequence 667 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.279 with them that takes like ten to fifteen minutes of intro, 668 00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:07.440 and then that like leads us right back to this 669 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:09.880 location with that character. So I thought I thought that 670 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.759 was kind of a fun little like intro bookend in 671 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:14.480 a way. It was like not a full movie bookend, 672 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:17.160 but just like for the intro specifically. So yeah, I 673 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.039 quite enjoyed the intro to this movie. Actually, I think 674 00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:22.400 it was more like later on. I think it's more 675 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.680 when we get to the house is when I was 676 00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.480 maybe less intrigued by what was going on than on out. 677 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:29.920 But I think the first half an hour or whatever 678 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:31.720 was was pretty pretty strong. 679 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:35.519 You like the Evil Dead burn short film there, you know, 680 00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:39.680 like the yes, yeah, yeah, before I throw to you. 681 00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.440 Because I don't want to forget, I didn't write down 682 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.440 I thought the title card sequence when she put them 683 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.359 in the water and started to boil him, a bunch 684 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.119 of fish was coming up, and then they started to 685 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.279 zoom out. I thought they're gonna have the fish like 686 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:53.599 all say the world. 687 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.039 I don't think I'd like that. That's a bit fishy. 688 00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.799 I'd have to see it. But I thought that's what 689 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.960 you're going with. But then we just got like Evil Dead. 690 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:05.720 With That's like because that would be that would mean 691 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:07.480 that that actually happened in the world. 692 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.759 No, because in the last one, remember that this is 693 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.160 the same character. And this is why I think it 694 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:14.960 would have fit. That was the character that when she 695 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.559 started to rise, the title card rose behind her. 696 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:20.039 Yeah, but the title card doesn't exist in the world. 697 00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:21.839 You don't know that she could be rising. 698 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:24.000 No, it does not. But if it was fish, that 699 00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:26.359 would that would be actual, and that dead nights are 700 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.279 not that cinematic. They're not spelling out words of fish. 701 00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:30.720 I don't know. And I'm gonna say like, it's not 702 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.440 like a clean, evil dead burn, but it's like the shape. 703 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.440 Of it may make the Travis edit. I'm curious what 704 00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:36.039 I will. 705 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.119 I'll try to work on that in the future. But Tay, 706 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:40.319 what do you think about this opening? 707 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.960 Yeah, it was definitely not the same level as Rise, 708 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.799 but I think that Yeah, it was a great intro. 709 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:52.200 But at the same time I thought. 710 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.079 It was it was cheeky and cheesy enough, like in 711 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.039 the fishing hooks and whatnot, in the eyelids and stuff. Okay, 712 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.960 that's that's pretty gross. That's uncomfortable. That's gonna be it's 713 00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.279 gonna be painful. You know, I've tangled with fishing line before. 714 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.920 I'm a fisherman, so it's it's not something you want 715 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:07.920 to mack around with, so. 716 00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:10.039 Fisherman. 717 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:13.400 But uh, yeah, it's a k f one statement. I've 718 00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.240 never heard you talk about you fishing at all. 719 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:15.359 Me. 720 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:17.039 I'll show you a whole bunch of pictures of me 721 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.000 with the salmon. Oh my gosh, I got a whole 722 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.279 archive of back in a day Vancouver Island. You know, 723 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:23.920 it's a fisherman's fisherman's land. 724 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:25.720 But I think that. 725 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.359 Because you were talking about how did you guys word 726 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.200 that just the the Deadite and just kind of like 727 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.799 the power level and whatnot of them, And so I 728 00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.759 was trying to look into like the difference between you 729 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:43.240 have the Candarian demon versus Deadite, and so the demon 730 00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:46.799 is that athro corporal entity that kind of moves around 731 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.559 like that first person view and foams around or whatever, 732 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.880 and then the dead eighte is that vessel that it possesses. 733 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.319 But when I was trying to backtrack, because if we're 734 00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:58.079 dealing with this girl here from the apartment, so she 735 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.440 is you have that mara I think it was called 736 00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.480 the Marauder from Evil Dead Rise, and that was that 737 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:09.720 like combine thing, that mutan demon thing or whatever that 738 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:11.839 was in the basement. So but I don't think that's 739 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.440 the thing that infected the girl when she left the 740 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.039 apartment building. So, but whatever was there, and that's where 741 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:23.279 because you highlighted this in the the the non spoiler 742 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.160 portion where there was no dead eight or specific. 743 00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:33.079 I guess what the fuck? You gotta go check on that, Taylor, 744 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.559 the fire alarm. I'm just gonna mute fire alarm. 745 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.240 You you would take a look into that. I like 746 00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.160 that he went up, you himself would not answer, just looked. 747 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:43.240 Didn't even get up either. 748 00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:44.920 He just he still hasn't gone up for that. 749 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.119 He still hasn't gone up. 750 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.880 Okay, this so okay, this is fucked. I was saying 751 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:52.960 this rapter nine. Okay. 752 00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.319 Two nights ago, we're sleeping and at four am, our 753 00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:59.680 door swings wide open and slams, and we both woke 754 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:03.160 up or like, are you there, Satine? And Satina wasn't there? 755 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.799 The door has never done that, We have no We 756 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.200 walked around, we checked the whole place and we could 757 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.799 not figure out what it was. And the next night, 758 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.200 same time, the fire alarm triggers and we're like, what 759 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:16.119 the fuck is going on? 760 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:16.839 Oh my god? 761 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:20.039 So now and it's hardline, it's not batteries, so it's 762 00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:21.839 not going to be going like you know, it does 763 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.680 that if the battery is getting little, but it's hardwired 764 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.559 into a power source. But now it's just it popped 765 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:26.759 on there and then it stopped. 766 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:30.759 So it's it's weird just turned off on its own. 767 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:32.119 It just turned off on. 768 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.400 Its own because Madison's sleeping on the couch. But it's 769 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.839 weird because it's been backed by Setne saying that something's 770 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.200 been tapping on her window. 771 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:43.599 And there's something going on. So but the cat, what 772 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.440 is happening? The cats haven't been acting up. And fine, 773 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.599 when you say your door like your bedroom door, like 774 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.960 your front door of your house, we were not the 775 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.119 front door of the house, we'ld be fucking out of here. No, 776 00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.240 it was our bedroom door. So you have like a 777 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.160 window open, like it must be some draft. Technical windows 778 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:01.680 were closed. 779 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:03.480 I thought it would be a draft. I walked down 780 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.480 the hallway, but there was the fan that is against 781 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.200 the wall over here. It's not powerful. 782 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.039 How loud it close, like it's slammed. It's slammed. 783 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:13.160 It was. 784 00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:16.200 It was loud. That is terrifying. 785 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.599 Yeah, and it's it's never never had it been like 786 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:23.759 before ever Like, So we're we're trying to figure it out. 787 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:25.720 We're trying to break down the facts and figure this 788 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:30.960 ship out. No doubt, that's horrible, some weird ship. But 789 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.039 that's gonna keep me up that's gonna keep me up 790 00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:34.640 more than this whole fucking movie. 791 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:36.839 Just the thought of the same person tapping on the 792 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.240 teens windows gonna be tapping on Dylan's window later on. 793 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.720 Oh yeah, I'm gonna be all live stream. I would 794 00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:45.640 have a heart attack that happened. But where was I 795 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:46.039 going with that? 796 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.640 So the there's no standalone signature dead eyed as you 797 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.319 guys were alluding to. That really kind of takes the 798 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:55.240 cake here as being the main cheese. But for me, 799 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:57.200 and this kind of goes back to the beginning here 800 00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.440 you have this this the Candarian demon is I'm gonna 801 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.839 keep referring to here that infects and makes up the 802 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.240 dead Dights, But the Candaren demon that is triggered It's like, oh, 803 00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.880 I'm sensing the dagger being unwrapped here at the start 804 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.760 of the movie, So that demon is the same. Is 805 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.599 just that demon overall is kind of possessing all the 806 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.320 dead dits here. And so for me, when I was 807 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.440 watching this, I took it as this demon was the 808 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:21.559 thing that we're dealing with. Yes, you get the dead 809 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.719 Heights that are popping up, the mom and the girlfriend 810 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.719 and the dad, all that kind of stuff, But to me, 811 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:29.519 they were all one and the same. It didn't feel 812 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.840 like they were all individualized. It felt like they were 813 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.639 all the same demon, the same candarian demon that was 814 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.119 operating here. But I'm probably in a minority with that. 815 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.199 I do feel like they had They all had a 816 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:46.239 similar personality like once they were possessed, and a similar 817 00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:48.559 cadence to them. So I could I could see that 818 00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:52.079 being the case. M h. I couldn't give you a 819 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.559 lower reason for why that happens, but I think that 820 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:55.079 makes sense. 821 00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:56.719 Yeah, you could be right. And none of them felt 822 00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.920 like two dead dys So I see what you mean there, 823 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:03.320 con temptation. I think, yeah, so that doesn't help me 824 00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.760 with the water boiling. But I like your theory, you know, 825 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:07.800 because that's. 826 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.159 That's something else that's powerful. 827 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.119 You know. Why was it Ellie doing that last week? 828 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.239 She just began through that house easy, she just boil 829 00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:18.000 like the house. But yeah, so we in this whole 830 00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.199 roundabout way the lady from Rye she gets hit by 831 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.280 a car. As Dylan said, we picked back up, you know, 832 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.559 earlier in the film. But something we didn't see between 833 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:28.559 Alice and her boyfriend. I will get IMDb to get 834 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:33.199 all these names out uh but uh start some of 835 00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.199 those clubs scene. I don't know, it just wasn't it wasn't. 836 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:36.920 It was wasn't working for me. 837 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:37.960 Way too rushed. 838 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.519 I thought it was almost way too long, to be honest, Like, 839 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.400 I don't know, it's just like something felt off. I 840 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.599 think this was like a chemistry thing with almost all 841 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:48.519 four of them, but definitely like the Alice and the boyfriend, 842 00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:49.760 Like I know, he wasn't in the movie much so 843 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.719 you probably didn't need to have that like perfect but 844 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.400 something here, and I feel like we didn't. We were 845 00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:57.159 missing on cues with these certain things of the I 846 00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.559 didn't know who's was the brother, who was the sister, 847 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.440 who was date? Like it was strange, you know, we're 848 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:04.840 talking about French hand jobs again, they know more French stuff. 849 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.880 He gets, she like accident, she like kisses him. And 850 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.000 that's like some point of dramas that I thought was 851 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.920 gonna come back later in the movie, but it doesn't, 852 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:14.079 which is weird. 853 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.519 Because even when the boy the let me get dined 854 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.039 to be so don't mess up these names, when the 855 00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:20.559 girl turns into the dead ord and she's I'll just 856 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:21.760 say she's possessed. 857 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.679 Later on the one that he Joseph and Tina are 858 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:24.719 like that couple. 859 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.119 So Tina later on when she's on the roof and 860 00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.519 she lands on Alice and she's like, I'm not gonna 861 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.199 let you have all the men like you thought. I 862 00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.760 thought was implied. Okay, they are maybe having an affair 863 00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.320 or cheating, but like you said, we never got back 864 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:36.599 to that. 865 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.920 We never think she's just French with the reality. 866 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:41.760 Yeah, and it was just a mistake, like they just 867 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.039 like the accident bumped and yeah, he gets him this 868 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:48.679 uh this thousand dollar pen, like I get it. But 869 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.159 he's like, oh, help help to write your book. It's like, yeah, 870 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.280 I laptop my work too, you know. But and then 871 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.800 she just gets some like a picture and oh, I 872 00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.159 said our present ones I said, my present was from both. 873 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.280 It's just like weird like relationship fight and stuff. And 874 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.360 then yeah, they get in an argument. He drives drunk, 875 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.039 so they just make it seem like he drove drunk, 876 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.199 but yeah, he did hit the day. I'll give him that. 877 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:09.559 I did. 878 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.239 Like the scene when the dates through the window he's 879 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.840 trying to call the cops and the head rolls off 880 00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.800 and it's starting to talk and we've been looking for 881 00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:18.840 you and all that type of stuff, and we start 882 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:20.679 to set up this, uh you know this the the 883 00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:24.320 dead Dights want, you know, this family. You though they 884 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:25.800 might not be dead ights, Tim's just gonna be calling 885 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:27.800 that they want something to do with this family. So 886 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.840 but yeah, not all of this club scene. And they're 887 00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.039 talking really quiet too for such a loud club, I 888 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:34.880 thought too. 889 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.039 So there was definitely a few times I could not 890 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.159 understand what the dialogue was. Specifically, it was like a 891 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:41.199 dead dight talking. 892 00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:43.400 Yeah, Vincent Maria, we got that. The smash cut to 893 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.800 the girl just twerking like it's just a full screen 894 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.360 of the ass I was and I'm. 895 00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:52.679 Not saying compilation and grinding and all that, but there's. 896 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.519 A lot of pop pop music in this movie. And 897 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:57.760 you know what, as a pop supporter, didn't like it. 898 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.320 Didn't like, I didn't like this an evil day going on? 899 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.360 You know what's happening weird because when you get later 900 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.079 onto like the dinner scene with the family, the mom 901 00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.840 is a dressing it like, oh, it's the restaurant, and 902 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.119 and the restaurant for me. 903 00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:11.960 Well that's the thing. 904 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:13.920 Like you see the flashback scenes of when she actually 905 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.679 gets like she gets the hot oil spilled all over 906 00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:18.960 her in the burns from her from her husband, and 907 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.119 it's it's a kitchen, right, and she does the accounting 908 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:24.840 as we learned for the restaurant. But it's not a restaurant, 909 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.159 it's a nightclub, so there's a little consistency there both. 910 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.199 Yeah, yeah, both you can order food at the nightclub. 911 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.599 And some some you can't, Like that's a very choice, 912 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.599 but no I did that, like, oh you got a 913 00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.079 care like it's sick. I guess just the accounting, Like 914 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:41.079 I had nothing nothing to do with that going on there, 915 00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:45.159 but uh yeah. And then we get a funeral scene. 916 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:48.239 There's some humor here, the construction and whatnot, and we 917 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.960 meet the family and yeah, again this is weird for me, 918 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.400 Like I didn't get that for the dad. I get 919 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.440 what they're going for, this angle of you know, the 920 00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:59.679 better son, but like that could just be the dead 921 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:04.199 eights speaking the grandma. Like I never chuckled at the 922 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.000 jokes they are doing here, but they weren't offensive. I 923 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:06.960 liked them, Like, okay, so. 924 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:11.639 Well you chuckled at the grandma chuckle? Uh what was 925 00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:12.880 it there was? 926 00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.960 I believe, I'll say a chuckle, But I don't mean 927 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.039 like I'm slapping the knee like dying with everything here. 928 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:20.679 Uh. 929 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.679 And then the anchor on this family, the fucking mom character. 930 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.920 I'm sorry. Writing wise, what a disaster. 931 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.159 Yeah, that was super weak for sure. 932 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:33.280 All over as far as like we don't get enough 933 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.599 of her relationship with Alice again, talk about things are 934 00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.000 going too long, the makeout scene with her dead like 935 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:41.400 dead her husband, just like I get they're trying to 936 00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.599 gross you up. It's the point like okay, just like god, 937 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.159 like we've been doing this for five seconds, I'm not 938 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:45.840 there anymore. 939 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:47.920 You haven't kissed me like that in so long. 940 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:50.880 And she'd go back and forth, she would go down there, 941 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:51.719 she's with the dadites. 942 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.679 I thought I'm gonna start having sex. I thought they're 943 00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.559 gonna start having sex. I really did. 944 00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:57.159 That's next. 945 00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.480 That's great. Quickly going back to the funeral, just six's 946 00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:03.880 question and maybe everyone knows this and I just don't. 947 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.559 When you cremate a body, do you typically cremate them 948 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:12.599 inside of a coffin. That's my knowledge, not unless that 949 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:16.480 seems wasteful and jury the coffin, But you would cremate 950 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.880 the remains, right, But this guy was he was loading 951 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:20.920 that whole coffin in there. 952 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.840 Yeah. Yeah, And they also would not as far as 953 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.880 I know, they would not unload the body while the 954 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:29.440 family was still there. They would wait for them to 955 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:32.119 go or leave the room and then move there, like 956 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:34.840 because they do the scene where he's like trying to 957 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.079 lift the casket but it's not working and they're trying 958 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.559 to go for they would for a lot of calming 959 00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:41.719 in here with the construction going on and the speech 960 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.320 is there, and this is where stuff like again, nothing 961 00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.920 was like terrible, but I was not laughing at any 962 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:47.679 of this stuff. Really. 963 00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:48.880 It was more like it was like, you know, it 964 00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.639 was a cringe cringe humor. 965 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:51.239 Yeah. 966 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.199 So yes, the coffin is burned right along with the 967 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.440 body during the cremation process. Once the coffins stealed the 968 00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:59.679 funeral home, it's not reopened today. 969 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:06.960 Interesting. That seems like a tremendous The creeditorium strictly requires 970 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:11.199 a combustible container like wood, wicker, cardboard for safety and dignity. 971 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.800 Dignity. I'm dead, I don't know, so wait a minute, like, 972 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.960 so you can have dignity for dead. I'm dead, I'm dead, 973 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.159 I'm gone. You know, it's fine. 974 00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.880 The chamber temperatures reach seven hundred and sixty degree celsius 975 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:26.119 to thirteen hundred degree celsia, So the coffin is entirely consumed. 976 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.519 So are the coffins. Maybe they're constructed in a way 977 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.840 such that it like enhances the burning experience. 978 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:36.599 Maybe you get like a cedar or something like that, 979 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.880 so you get them a whiff, you know, a nice 980 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:40.119 sentch or something that. 981 00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:42.239 Is kind of nice in a way. It's like a nature. 982 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.039 But then I guess the remains that anyone would have 983 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.079 and an urn, it's like mostly coffin in there. It's 984 00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:48.559 all wood. 985 00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.760 That's so you're saying, when I here cream, when I die, 986 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:57.719 they have to put me in a box. I can't. 987 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.519 You could do well, like I said, wood, wicker or cardboard. 988 00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:02.519 I gotta be in. 989 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:04.880 Go down like solid. 990 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.199 Some juices, Yeah, some juices flowing into that cardboard. 991 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.239 But that's on, go box, chuck them in. 992 00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:13.039 Actually I would love not that my family set up 993 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:14.440 for it, but I would love to go qua gon 994 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.280 Gin style, just like everyone like puts me around and 995 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:18.119 then you burn me. 996 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.079 Everyone has to stand there. I respect that. 997 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.039 I respect that, even though I've always said all my 998 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:24.679 funeral will be fun. I don't want to be mop 999 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.960 I want like jokes made my spend. Yeah, maybe not 1000 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.599 that part may that's that's the day. 1001 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.480 But like the cedar coffin kind of encapsulates, it cooks 1002 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:35.800 you in there. Yeah, I need you guys to put 1003 00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.440 me on the boat and send me out and then 1004 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:38.960 shoot the fire arrow. Yeah. 1005 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:40.239 Sure, I'll start working on it. 1006 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:41.800 I was thinking. I was thinking the boat from the 1007 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.119 opening of this movie. I'm like, you want to be 1008 00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.320 on that boat. I'm not going on that boat with 1009 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:46.280 the fish and everything. 1010 00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:49.199 No, the hot water. Oh yeah, but then we got 1011 00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:51.320 more coming here. The guy is putting in music and 1012 00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.679 he's like dance into the fire and stuff, and then 1013 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.159 the dad knocks, Oh, I gotta gotta say goodbye to 1014 00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.920 my son. Okay, you only have five minutes. He's knock 1015 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.599 and then I guess the cremation guy gets killed off screen, 1016 00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:05.760 and other than the end credit, we never come back 1017 00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:07.400 to this. There's just like a full of murder takes 1018 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.840 place and no one it's not even like, oh he 1019 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.519 gets killed at like Hitman forty seven styles. Secretly, yeah, 1020 00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.639 ashes are being or earns are being broken. There's blood, 1021 00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.519 it's super loud, and then we kind of got similar 1022 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:21.639 to what we got and rise where rise, Like if 1023 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.039 you take damage from the possessed one, that's when you 1024 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:28.760 started to turn right. Similar here. I guess I don't 1025 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.480 think the dad got damaged, but I guess he got 1026 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.280 spoken to with then he. 1027 00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:35.880 Got burned, right because this guy is right with the 1028 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.079 Sun's hand came out and like infected him. 1029 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.760 So it's like, okay, now he's he's tapped and I'm sorry. 1030 00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:47.079 Like at this point, if your loved one is about 1031 00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.280 to be put in the crematory, it's not like back 1032 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.239 in the eighteen hundreds when they rung a bellt like 1033 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.440 I'm still lively. It's like, son, you in this it's still. 1034 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.960 It's still a thing like people people have woken up 1035 00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.320 just before being put in the in the flames. 1036 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.159 So I don't doubt that at all. 1037 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.719 Find me, find me the most recent I've heard of that, 1038 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.119 for sure, I've heard that. That's okay, no, actually stop no, 1039 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.920 stop stop stop. He was burned to a fucking crisp, 1040 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:12.480 remember he like. 1041 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.320 You know you're grieving, you you know that sometimes people 1042 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:16.960 can survive. 1043 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:23.000 No, his his car explodes, he goes up in the smitherys. 1044 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.199 I got you, I Got you. 1045 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:23.320 No. 1046 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.679 November twenty twenty five, temple workers in Thailand heard knocking 1047 00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.079 from a coffin moments before cremation. They opened it to 1048 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.480 find a sixty five year old bedridden woman alive. Her brother, 1049 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:34.320 who believed she had passed away two days prior, had 1050 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:38.480 taken her to the Wat Rat Prak Kong Tam for cremation. 1051 00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:43.199 Again, this body was fully burned. They're not. 1052 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.960 It was burned, but it was burned. It was only 1053 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.079 burned such that it was still able to be removed 1054 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.239 and put into a coffin without it like being melted 1055 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.719 to the car or just completely blown up. He was 1056 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.880 only worse too, and burnt like burn wise, I really 1057 00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.960 don't because when he's walking around, he's like got half 1058 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.840 a ribcage. Just let's imagine on fire. You know, he's 1059 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:02.559 he's cooked. 1060 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:04.280 He literally cooked. 1061 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.239 But to be fair, had had the dad seen that 1062 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:08.159 to that point? 1063 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:09.400 No? 1064 00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.119 Probably right, None of those body of the family had 1065 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:13.480 seen what his body. 1066 00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.519 If you said, if if if the police came and said, like, hey, 1067 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.960 your friend Dylan died in the car explosion, I don't 1068 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:20.719 think that's gonna be a case where Dylan might knock 1069 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.760 on the coffin right before, but then if. 1070 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:24.599 But then, if Dylan shows up in a coffin, you'd 1071 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:26.559 be like, well, I guess there's enough of Dylan's body that, 1072 00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:31.320 like there's a body still. I guess, I guess a 1073 00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:32.880 lot of cremation logistics. 1074 00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:35.440 This is our face hangout for the movie is the 1075 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:36.239 cremation part. 1076 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:40.239 So I will, I'll just jump us ahead, jumps us around. 1077 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.159 But I think for me, the highlight dead eight if 1078 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:46.760 you will, is definitely Edgar the Father. I think he 1079 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:48.679 I mean, he probably gets the most because he's like 1080 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:50.840 the main one, like for the first like half an 1081 00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:54.199 hour before everyone else gets infected as well. But I 1082 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.079 liked his presence. I thought he did a pretty good job. 1083 00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.960 I thought he could be scary. I just like the 1084 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.880 way that they kept, you know, changing the look like 1085 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.159 his He looked just more and more disheveled as time 1086 00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.079 went on, and like his face was like molding. It 1087 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:11.000 seemed like, at certain times like he scared me more 1088 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.400 than a couple of the other ones who weren't necessarily 1089 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:14.960 as like I was never really scared of the mom. 1090 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.960 I was never really scared of like the Joseph the 1091 00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:19.119 son who no. 1092 00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.079 Yeah, he wasn't even one for too long. Even he 1093 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:23.599 was just like a couple of couple, not. 1094 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.000 Even really scared of Grandma really, but like you know, 1095 00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.360 the dad, he was able to get the fear going 1096 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.920 on because of his intense presence, So I'll give him that. 1097 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:34.800 I think he was the highlight for me of the 1098 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:39.280 of the evil team and just the self inflicting damage too. 1099 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.519 When he's standing there and just. 1100 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.559 Like blows his head three times, that's kind of just 1101 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.480 to create fear and he just stands out there, which 1102 00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:50.559 again with his dog Max. I can't remember the last 1103 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.440 time i've I know it's a thing. I know it's existed, 1104 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.440 but I can't pinpoint exactly. But the demon infecting animals 1105 00:46:57.559 --> 00:46:59.639 and like him standing there with his dead eyed dog, 1106 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.920 that was It's just a crazy scary kind of combo 1107 00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:04.079 to see. 1108 00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.239 It's a call Doutey's skin right there, you know it 1109 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:07.480 is that's skin. 1110 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:08.559 Yeah, I can't remember. 1111 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.239 There's been other animals that have been Yeah, I think 1112 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.079 even the show, it's happened like Army. 1113 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.360 Of Darkness had like some horses or something. I don't like. 1114 00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:18.800 Yeah, I was on the for the deads. I was 1115 00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.719 on the Tina bandwagon. I like my dead ight it's 1116 00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:22.880 a little more playful and her doing some of the 1117 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.119 sexy stuff. I think they could have went more with it, 1118 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:26.559 but I very much. 1119 00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:27.960 Enjoyed cone with it. 1120 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.599 Yeah, like drink the candle though, that's good. 1121 00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:33.639 Yeah, Like was she was licking Gramma's dentures. 1122 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.000 Yeah, but they could have went harder on that. Like 1123 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.039 I got what it was. They affected the grandma, but 1124 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:41.000 when she put the danders back in, it was like 1125 00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.480 completely clean. When she pulled out her mother, there's like 1126 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:45.400 a string of blood. I think they should have for effect, 1127 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.400 Like those dentures should have been just drippen in ash 1128 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:51.159 and blood, and you put that in there because it's 1129 00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:53.000 of course it's a grosser moment, but I didn't like 1130 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:55.440 gross out, gross me up. But no, My favorite was 1131 00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:58.280 the dishwasher because not only does he take the plunge 1132 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:01.800 under the knives, standing up like straddles him and talks 1133 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:03.599 about being his first time and all that stuff. So 1134 00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.880 I like when dead heightes are playful and they're kind 1135 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.079 of like little asshole. So that's what I appreciated. But 1136 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.280 then she got taken out. She got to smash in 1137 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.079 the head and that's where again, like even the Joseph thing. 1138 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:18.760 Later on, Edgar brings him back and like find out 1139 00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.039 where his dagger is. He just he shoves the face 1140 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.280 and the broken face that's where one of these things, like, eh, 1141 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:25.960 I think this is gore for the sick of gore, 1142 00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:28.800 you know, like it's like, okay, he's shoving his face 1143 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.079 into this broken skull. It just didn't like it didn't 1144 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:32.880 work for me to win. But it's like okay, And 1145 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.280 that's another storyline too for me, is the Joseph is 1146 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.719 a coward storyline? Like what were we what were we 1147 00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:40.239 doing with that? 1148 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.199 I didn't know he couldn't kill his dad, but he 1149 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:44.599 could kill his girlfriend. 1150 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.920 But what have the story because that at the end 1151 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:50.360 of the movie, it's not like him and Alice are 1152 00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.760 working together the way I thought. And even though I'm 1153 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.519 still mixed on it, you look at something like Barbarian right, 1154 00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.159 just as long as characters, He's made out to be 1155 00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.440 a coward. And then he meets our protagon this he 1156 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.599 tries to save her and then in the end, when 1157 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.679 the Mama comes up, you know, spoils that movie. He 1158 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:08.280 decides to be a coward again and tries to sacrifice her. Right, 1159 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.719 So that plays in the third act that movie. So 1160 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.199 that makes sense. How does Joseph be in a cow 1161 00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:13.800 or scared? 1162 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.199 Yeah, he's gonna like survive in the end and we're 1163 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:19.599 gonna go on some full journey and then that doesn't 1164 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:21.760 end up happening, or. 1165 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.559 Even him sacrifice himself for Alice to like, oh, he'll 1166 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.360 full like full, he has been a cow that up 1167 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:28.360 to this, Like I'll get. 1168 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:29.840 The knife and throw it to you and have something 1169 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.559 heroic moment like that. No, No, he's just he doesn't 1170 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.280 even tell her where it is. No, he just says 1171 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:36.000 go find it. 1172 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.119 And she just kills him and he falls because I 1173 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:42.559 was in and again too, It's weird. It's like they 1174 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.000 didn't want to go full on because horror movies do 1175 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:46.760 this all the time, right, let's as stash the asshole 1176 00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.440 and do some fun asshole stuff with him. When his 1177 00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:51.960 dad is just beating up Tina and he's about to 1178 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:53.519 kill her and you just in the bag, which I 1179 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.039 like the shot you just see in the back he's 1180 00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:55.920 like crawling out of that car. 1181 00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:57.880 He shoots out the fucking skylight. 1182 00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:59.679 He's out of there. He's out of there and he's 1183 00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:02.519 like watching his girlfriend get him planted by the car seat. 1184 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:03.920 But that's where it's like, Okay, we're gonna get this 1185 00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:06.440 movie now where he's gonna constantly turn on his mom, 1186 00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:08.679 turn on hous like he's gonna be selfish. And I 1187 00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:11.280 thought too, they were gonna play into that because they 1188 00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:14.239 did this weird moment where he when he kills Tina, 1189 00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.519 he has something big and he is a dishwasher. Yeah right, 1190 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.199 the dishwasher. Right. He's doing that over and over and 1191 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.840 it encapsulates crushes her skull. And then at that moment 1192 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:26.280 they have Alice have a flashback to win will was 1193 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.199 the name right of the bad boyfriend that won the 1194 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.840 past right or will yeah? Yeah uh. She has a 1195 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.159 flashback to their argument when he got the oil on her. 1196 00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:35.519 So I thought they're trying to go with, Oh, Joseph's 1197 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.360 also a piece of prick. He's just like a nicer 1198 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.199 version of that, because I thought it was her realizing like, 1199 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.800 even though it's a dead he's like going really hard 1200 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:45.719 on killing this girl. And she even said like, oh, 1201 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.760 you killed me so easy, but not your dad. But no. 1202 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:49.880 Then the next thing they're just talking and making a 1203 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.440 plan and not the game without either. So I just 1204 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.039 I don't know, and I don't mind that Joseph actor. 1205 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:57.440 Also he's got a he got a raw deal and 1206 00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:02.079 Daredevil that's muse if you don't remember. Yeah, yeah, he's 1207 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.000 in Wednesday. So the things that I've liked him in, 1208 00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:06.119 I even this, I don't think he's bad in here. 1209 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:07.880 But yeah, I don't know what was going on with 1210 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:09.639 Joseph's character. I don't know what they're trying to tell 1211 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:10.199 me with that one. 1212 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:12.199 So yeah, I don't know if I can blame the 1213 00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.559 acting or writing on that one. Probably a little bit 1214 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.880 of both, but probably mostly mostly the writing. But yeah, 1215 00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:22.039 that was definitely a extremely underwhelming character for me. It 1216 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.039 just doesn't really make sense in the end. But yeah, 1217 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.360 I think you're right. Tina does have some good moments, 1218 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.159 some good dead eye moments, for sure. She's certainly number 1219 00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.239 two for me behind every Like even when she shows 1220 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.159 up back at the house and then like pushes the 1221 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:37.000 car the car like pillow thing like back out through 1222 00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:41.320 her head. Yeah, that moment's really great. And yeah, just 1223 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:43.280 like some of it, she's like a bit more whimsical, 1224 00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.039 which I think you make a good point there of 1225 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.519 like sometimes that is what these dead ights are all about, 1226 00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:51.000 which she's like lining the house with gasoline and talking 1227 00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.239 about like commentary on like some of the images and 1228 00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.079 the pictures and things like that. So yeah, she's a 1229 00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:58.519 she's a. I thought she was gonna come back even 1230 00:51:58.519 --> 00:51:59.800 though her head was bashed, and I thought she was 1231 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.599 gonn to have like one last moment where then she 1232 00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:04.800 would get like stabbed by the knife. I thought everyone 1233 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:06.320 was gonna get stabed by the knife and that's how 1234 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.400 they would die for good, which obviously they the grandma 1235 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.840 at least was able to crawl away from that, and 1236 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:13.480 maybe the other ones are too because they didn't get 1237 00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:17.800 hit with the knife specifically. I don't know. Yeah, well 1238 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.519 I got I got two things. First question, are you 1239 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:24.119 guys knives up in a dishwasher households? Because I'm not. 1240 00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:26.360 And it's like, how are you supposed to grab the 1241 00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.440 knife out after it's clean? Like that's just fucked very easily. 1242 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:31.639 But I don't think about it. I just throw stuff 1243 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:32.320 in the dishwasher. 1244 00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:38.880 I would say, it's not that bad knives up. Well, 1245 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:41.360 if it's a butter knife, Ah, yeah, butterknife. 1246 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.320 I agree, But even stay knife. There's a whole back 1247 00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:45.880 of like smooth. You just that's what I do. You 1248 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:46.679 just grabbed that way. 1249 00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.400 Okay. I feel like I have the perception that they 1250 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.840 get cleaner if they're if they're sharp up, but I 1251 00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.119 don't know if that's true at all. So I believe 1252 00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:59.840 that's true, but I don't know. Just those blades in my. 1253 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.960 Blades, ma'am. I don't know if this is gonna be 1254 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.639 similar to Alien Romulus, because I feel like that had 1255 00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:11.239 that pushback. How do you guys feel about we're talking 1256 00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:13.440 about the Dead? How do you feel about William's form 1257 00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.920 of the He's burned up, He's like our final boss. 1258 00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.159 Didn't like. I hated that so much. To me, that 1259 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.360 was so unevil deadlight on how the CGI looked really bad. 1260 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.719 It looked so goofy. It looked like some corny like 1261 00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.920 sci fi series, not Evil Dead. 1262 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:30.519 Uh. 1263 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.920 So I back that and also CGI dog like. I 1264 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.599 would have probably preferred without dog because I think some 1265 00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.519 of that just didn't look great. But in particular I 1266 00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:41.079 like and I was also ready for the movie to end. 1267 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:42.920 At that point, I was like, okay, cool, we had 1268 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.079 our final moment. Maybe it wasn't the most climbact was 1269 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.000 good enough, and then we have like this other like 1270 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:49.719 ten to fifty minute sequence, which you know was fine 1271 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.280 at the construction site or whatever. But uh yeah, I 1272 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:56.239 really didn't like that look at all. That was a real, 1273 00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:57.760 real disappointment for me at the end. 1274 00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.519 Yeah, Taylor, you also nailed it. The voice was very Bekna, 1275 00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.480 very stranger thing sort of thing today. Were you positive 1276 00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:05.000 on this at all? 1277 00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:08.639 Not really, but I get it like Evil Did twenty 1278 00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:10.880 thirteen had that big boss at the end, right, and 1279 00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:14.239 then Rise has the Marauders. So I guess the gimmick 1280 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:15.760 now is Evil Dead movies just have to have that 1281 00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:17.920 big boss centric character at the end. 1282 00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:19.800 But yeah, I feel like it's funny we did the 1283 00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.679 retro this year we're doing for the movies and then 1284 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:23.760 me and dal and top about the games. I feel 1285 00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.400 like it's very like Resident Evil type where there's just 1286 00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:28.920 certain things where you're like, ah, he doesn't feel like 1287 00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.679 Resident Evil. And that's where I'm in your guys' camp. 1288 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.920 Like I I really did not like Will's form and 1289 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.159 like the whole cause, like I think I would wouldn't 1290 00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:39.960 mind if they were if let's say they get to 1291 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:41.679 another Evil Dead a couple movies or they do a 1292 00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:43.400 big crossover and it's like, oh, we're fighting like the 1293 00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:46.039 literal devil something that that's like, okay, I guess he's 1294 00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:47.599 been like a final boss, but it just to be 1295 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.920 some like random abusive, drunk guy and he gets to 1296 00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:54.039 be like this like devil former. He has like firepowers 1297 00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:56.679 and all the stuff. I don't know I needed. I 1298 00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:58.559 need more of why this guy would be. 1299 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:00.519 Like that. 1300 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:02.480 And again too, there's at one point where he's looking 1301 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.559 for Alice and he just takes her. I'm like, oh shit, 1302 00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:07.679 she's done and he just throws her. It's like, what 1303 00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.519 do you like? Like you're like a fire guy, like 1304 00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.679 you can't just burn? Like it felt very uh plot 1305 00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.719 armory that whole third act for Alice and her getting 1306 00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:17.800 around in coast and. 1307 00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:19.800 So and how many times you gonna say like where's 1308 00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:21.760 the dagger? And you know, she throws the fake one 1309 00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.599 and they asked the hot and he's looking for it. 1310 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:27.639 I thought that was a little chesy for it. 1311 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.360 And it's like, what's that supposed to really do? Because 1312 00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:33.159 like he's already he really hot, so it's not gonna 1313 00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:34.480 like hurt him or anything, right. 1314 00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:36.679 Like, but it was just distract him so that she 1315 00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:40.519 gets right, I guess, get the drill thing, which the 1316 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:43.840 whole construction scene at the start, It was just it 1317 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.320 was a major foreshadow because I'm looking at this and 1318 00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.599 how they're emphasizing the main like Tea's just staring at. 1319 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:52.400 This. 1320 00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:55.599 What do you call it? Like a pile driver? I 1321 00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:57.400 think it's a pile driver? This guy just using it. 1322 00:55:57.519 --> 00:55:59.519 I'm like, okay, well, clearly this is gonna come back 1323 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.360 full circle, which it did because you think that she's 1324 00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.880 gonna grab the chainsaw to use on on fire guy, 1325 00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:07.199 but no, it's the pile driver comes down and she 1326 00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:08.079 just drills. 1327 00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:11.039 But no, she also uses the other thing to or 1328 00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:13.320 is about the pile driver that that she. 1329 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:17.920 Like a jackhammer? I don't know, jack camer not the 1330 00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:19.920 pile driver. That's a wrestling move, isn't that. And then 1331 00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.199 she has like a weed whacker like earlier moves. 1332 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.880 Yeah, yeah, we yeah. There's just so many times that 1333 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:27.840 frustrating this movie with the character would have a weapon 1334 00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:29.880 and then it's gone, Like at one point she has 1335 00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.719 the dagger and she I'm gonna go over because I 1336 00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:35.119 have multiple complaints, but she has a dagger. She kills Joseph. 1337 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.599 He's gone, and then the mother she pops up fun 1338 00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:40.360 jump scare. She's looking down, jumps up, so she starts 1339 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:44.039 to climb in. Instead of like, okay, dagger again, she 1340 00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:47.840 like holst is the dagger. She takes the whole weed whacker. 1341 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.079 She's climbing through the chimney to get to the other chimney. 1342 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:52.320 I'm like, what are you doing, Like, well, you have 1343 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.000 like the golden gun, you have like whatever, And then 1344 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:58.159 of course she gets one step up the dagger fucking 1345 00:56:58.280 --> 00:56:59.960 like you have that, Like you have that dagger your 1346 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.719 fucking butt cheeks, you don't leave it? Like that's where 1347 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.519 that whole thing. And then the construction site there was 1348 00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.039 just too many, Like we really want to do a 1349 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:09.840 set piece where the dad gets his head cut off 1350 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:12.360 in the chimney, so we got to just have her 1351 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:14.920 do x Y and Z. It just didn't feel natural. 1352 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.039 Even at one point when they were fighting and they 1353 00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:20.800 had her face up and this happened like MIT's mints Ago. 1354 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.000 She just looks down the ground and the pen's randomly there, 1355 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:25.679 so oh well I got the pen and then like 1356 00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:27.519 uses that, which that to me was I think that 1357 00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.480 was actually the most brutal one was the pen in 1358 00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:29.840 the ear. 1359 00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:31.440 That was the hardest thing for me to watch. 1360 00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:34.039 Yea, the sound effects too. They used like that idea 1361 00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:36.840 like yeah, you hearing stuff or like you got water 1362 00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.119 in your ears. But that's great, But then you have 1363 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:43.360 that scene where like, oh, you know whatever, Will's mom 1364 00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:46.519 like chainsaw his face and she goes, sorry, Alice, I 1365 00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:50.280 gotta do this. She gets interrupted, al saves her, and 1366 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:52.440 then the second staves are like two minutes later she's like, 1367 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:56.199 I'm a dad. I it's just that mother kid bug 1368 00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:57.639 me again, like the mother. 1369 00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.960 I think it was the same similar situation like the Dad, 1370 00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:05.039 where it was just that long on set deadite thing 1371 00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:06.480 where it just took a while to kind of like 1372 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:08.039 seep in her because it was the same like the 1373 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:09.639 dad got burned on the arm and you could see 1374 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:11.400 the one eye get infected and it took a while 1375 00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:12.960 from to turn, and the same thing here when they 1376 00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.199 were macing, the one eye on her face turned and 1377 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.480 it took a while for her to actually like transition 1378 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:18.320 into a deadite. 1379 00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:20.719 Yeah, I just mean some of the decisions, like I 1380 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.280 felt like the and I get it she's a mother grieving, 1381 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.159 But I think we need some better written scenes of 1382 00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:28.599 her even as a human. I wasn't ing. 1383 00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.880 I'm not I'm not justifying her because I was gonna 1384 00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.440 say boomers, but that's not very fair because it's just 1385 00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.800 she was just pissing me off every step of the way, 1386 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:40.360 every decision she was doing. When she was gonna listen 1387 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:42.760 to Grandma and turn that chainsaw, and I was getting 1388 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:43.440 fucking pissed. 1389 00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.960 But it again, the main character here. 1390 00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:48.960 What irked me was she's walking, She's got the fucking weapon, 1391 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.400 She's got it gassed up, ready to go, it's turned on. 1392 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.039 She puts it down. Yeah, picks up the picture frame. 1393 00:58:55.599 --> 00:59:00.239 What the fuck? Dad? Yeah, it was so stupid. Yeahed 1394 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:03.199 me so much. I think that's like I appreciate the 1395 00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:05.599 idea of like, Okay, what's like a chainsaw, but isn't 1396 00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.039 a chainsaw? We'll do something fresh and new here. Then 1397 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:10.760 it's like, there's a reason movies like this use a 1398 00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:12.719 chainsaw instead of a weed whacker, because it's just a 1399 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:17.280 much more cinematic weapon. It's less awkward and clunky. It's 1400 00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:19.920 not some big long stick. So yeah, I think the 1401 00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:23.199 weed whacker was just a bit too uh clunky for 1402 00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.119 my liking, and then I think it was a little 1403 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:26.639 on the nose when they had that moment of the 1404 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:29.360 construction site when she's like pulling on some random string 1405 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:32.000 and there's like two things attached to it, and one's 1406 00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:34.800 a chainsaw, one's the jackhammer, and she goes with the 1407 00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:37.039 I like that she picks the new one. I guess 1408 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:38.440 I don't know if she really picked it, just kind 1409 00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:41.639 of that's what fell to her. Uh, But yeah, maybe 1410 00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.039 trying a bit too hard to do the same but 1411 00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:45.480 be something new, I think. 1412 00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:48.880 Yeah. I think for me my issue is now we 1413 00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.400 had obviously, yes, ash chainsaw, he uses it, he gets 1414 00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:55.360 as a hand, we get it right. In twenty thirteen 1415 00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.199 they do that and me it gains and that movie 1416 00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:59.199 ends with that like dead eight version of herself right 1417 00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.679 when it's like the evil version that's blood raining and 1418 01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:04.079 amazing shot, right when she has the chainsaw on the 1419 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.639 head and it's going and there's blood everywhere. And then 1420 01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:10.079 we get the same thing and Rise where I can't 1421 01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.599 remember there's Ellie and I can't remember her sister, which 1422 01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.320 was the main character who was pregnant at the time, 1423 01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:18.320 but samely happens with her where it's okay, the big 1424 01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:20.480 things formed. Then okay, chainsaw out the head and they 1425 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:23.480 throw them in the big like weed whack not weed 1426 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:26.000 whack or what is the like a tree when you 1427 01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:30.400 put things through u witchper Yeah, and then that goes everywhere. 1428 01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:33.360 And even though it's on a chainsaw, it's the same 1429 01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:35.599 thing with the jackcamera. It's you have a character and 1430 01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.840 they're gonna oh and blood, and especially this time, it's like, 1431 01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:39.960 this guy's burnt to a crisp. Why is he shooting 1432 01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:42.519 out blood everywhere? Just for me? Like thematically it doesn't 1433 01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:45.199 make sense. But this is now Like I was fine 1434 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.119 then in twenty thirteen, because it's like, oh, we haven't 1435 01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.199 done a Evil Dead movie since the early nineties, so 1436 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.639 we're gonna do these tributes. Now. It's like we've had 1437 01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:54.880 three movies in the row with the third act having 1438 01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:59.119 the hero have a some sort of electric automate or 1439 01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.159 object just cuts through the characters and when they get 1440 01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:05.039 covered in blood, I'm really, I'm I'm doone. I'm over. 1441 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:10.559 It's not you know, twenty thirteen except rise, Okay, it's 1442 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.320 been out of ten years, three years, al right, I've 1443 01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:16.199 had my film. No more, like that's a new way, 1444 01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:17.440 even if it's a change, So I just do it 1445 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.239 in a different way, right, just not no more of 1446 01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:21.760 the character. The villains on their knees and they're just 1447 01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.559 getting sawed to pieces. I just like at this point 1448 01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:26.519 it just kind of like rinse and repeat. That's where 1449 01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:29.599 it feels like that kind of like superhero stuff. Of all, right, 1450 01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:31.880 we've seen it's a superhero landing, the hero gets their 1451 01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:33.760 costume in the third act, it says, Okay, what we 1452 01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:35.599 have to do. We gotta find this object and cut 1453 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:36.119 them up, you know. 1454 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:39.480 So yeah, yeah, I mean even you know, anytime you're 1455 01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:41.800 just seeing like a horror movie, there's always like suspension 1456 01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:45.079 of disbelief because characters kind of have to be stupid. 1457 01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:46.360 They don't have to be. But this is just, you know, 1458 01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:48.960 it's a trope within the genre characters that are being stupid. 1459 01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:52.079 One that really bothered me is is again this dinner scene, 1460 01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.440 which I think was really good for a bit there, 1461 01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:56.559 and then I think it kind of falters with the 1462 01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:58.719 end of it. But like it does get to the 1463 01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:00.800 point where the dad it's freaking out, to the point 1464 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:03.639 where he stabs and kills the dog in front of everyone. 1465 01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:06.800 And then after this you know two of the characters 1466 01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:10.039 are they get out of there right, But then like 1467 01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:11.760 Alice is like, yeah, I guess I'll go throw the 1468 01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:13.880 stuff out, and the mom's like, yeah, I better, you know, 1469 01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.360 put put the leftovers in the trash, and they just 1470 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.199 go back to their regular call me just stabbed and 1471 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.239 killed a dog, and you guys are just acting as 1472 01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:27.480 if like, Okay, there's a limit. 1473 01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.360 To what's allowed with any If he's then it's like 1474 01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:31.360 k professional help. 1475 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.440 Let's like I only want to give it pass to 1476 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:36.559 his grandma because she doesn't know what's going on. But yeah, yeah, 1477 01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:39.679 some of that was like what it's hard for me 1478 01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.199 to like invest in any of these characters or believe 1479 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:44.119 in any of them or really be like I just 1480 01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:47.480 didn't care when anyone died or turned because I didn't, 1481 01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:49.840 you know, other than Alice, but then she doesn't. Of 1482 01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.039 course I was moving for her to some extent, but 1483 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.159 no one else they really care if they had a 1484 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:58.760 successful fate before the dad kills the dog, which I hated. 1485 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.400 That sucks with it killed dogs in the movies. 1486 01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:06.199 But he everyone's like everyone is visually noticing that he's 1487 01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:08.960 very unstable because he's like eyeing the corkscrew, he's grabbing 1488 01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.239 the knife. He's getting angry, so they like this quickly, 1489 01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:13.440 like they pull the utensils away from him, and then 1490 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:15.960 there's just one quick cut scene of him reaching like 1491 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:19.000 across the table slowly and grabbing the corkscrew. 1492 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:24.079 I'll take that, like hunched and slouched over to Yeah, 1493 01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:25.599 he's literally so out of it. 1494 01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:27.840 Yeah, all, I got a question for you guys. After 1495 01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:32.760 Snack's outbreak and we're back, so I get it people 1496 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:36.599 are grieving that stuff's going on. But even with my 1497 01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:38.440 father in law, who you know, like, I'm not like 1498 01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:41.280 the close with the you know it's him, There's no way. 1499 01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:43.440 And this is before all the scary stuff happens, right, 1500 01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.320 there's no way. If I see my father in law 1501 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:48.039 cutting himself in the basement, I'm just like I'll keep this, 1502 01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.239 and you just like and he's like, oh, don't tell 1503 01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.559 my wife, you know, no fucking way. I'm I'm upstairs 1504 01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:56.159 immediately being like your dad needs help, we gotta go. 1505 01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:58.360 We like, I'm not, We're not gonna go. And that's 1506 01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:01.000 where it's like, I like the Al's character. There's nothing 1507 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.559 egregiously wrong with her, but that and I get she's 1508 01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:05.760 also greened, but that's one where it's like, Okay, the 1509 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:07.960 dude needs some help. You cannot sit there. This guy 1510 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:10.400 was and it's not like a economy was maybe gonna 1511 01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:11.760 do it. Even if that was the case, I would 1512 01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.800 still be we're going to hospital, We're getting to help. 1513 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.239 This guy has taken gashes out of his hand, and 1514 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:21.840 she's like, I'll hold on to this good stut. Yeah, 1515 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.239 I just And that's where that for me was the 1516 01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:26.679 first sign in this movie of like, I think we're 1517 01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:28.320 playing with the different deck of cards in this Evil 1518 01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:30.440 Dead movie, Like these characters all around are gonna be 1519 01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.519 a bit more like, oh, what's going on? And I 1520 01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:34.480 think that always works better when it's more comedic, though, 1521 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:36.679 because when it's comedy, it's like, oh, they're idiots. That's 1522 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:38.599 what happens in Evil Dead too, right, Oh they're dummies. 1523 01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:40.559 Where this it's like, they're not supposed to be dummies. 1524 01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:42.519 They're supposed to be real people. But that was I 1525 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:44.239 couldn't get on board with her not saying a single 1526 01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.880 word to like Joseph like and because it's not like 1527 01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:49.559 that's the other thing too, if she was we did 1528 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.679 a movie where her husband dies and she goes see 1529 01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:53.320 this family and she's not really close with any of them, 1530 01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.679 then I'd maybe kind of get it, but they established that, 1531 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.159 like she's hanging out with Joseph on a birthday, she 1532 01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:01.000 seems friendly with Tina, So there's alationship there where, even 1533 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:02.639 if it's Tina the other person on the part of 1534 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:04.920 the family not to pull her aside and be like, Okay, 1535 01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.440 this has happened, like what should I do? So right there, 1536 01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:10.559 My kind of believability went out the window for this movie, 1537 01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:13.400 even though again it's demons and possession and stuff, but 1538 01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:17.199 still you need to have some various familitude going on. 1539 01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:21.480 So yeah, I totally agree. Travis. You mentioned the pen 1540 01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:23.800 in the ear, which, yeah, for me was probably the 1541 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.599 most tough scene to watch. The second one for me 1542 01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:30.480 was definitely when we're in the bathroom with Alice and 1543 01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:32.880 the mom she gets the razor and she's just shred 1544 01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:35.360 and skin off her face. I had to look away. 1545 01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:38.519 That was that. That one got me. Taylor, you said 1546 01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.079 this movie was less brutal. What was what was the 1547 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:42.960 peak brutalness for you? Is there anything that you had 1548 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.559 to squeamish about You had to look away when Buddy's 1549 01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:49.159 lying on the dish track and then takes the corkscrew 1550 01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:51.079 and it's like dragging. 1551 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:54.599 Oh yeah, I'm surprised I got you because I just feel. 1552 01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:56.800 Like they held on it for a long time. So 1553 01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:00.159 that Yeah, it's just it's the it's the one my 1554 01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:02.079 theater reacted to that one, for sure. 1555 01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:04.280 It's the mental thought of just the it being if 1556 01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:08.400 I've seen horror movies and action movies, you know, guys 1557 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.760 getting their their throats, slit with knives. 1558 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:11.239 I've seen that. 1559 01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:13.320 But it's the fact that it was the cork screw 1560 01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:16.400 and it's a point, but she's dragging like it's the 1561 01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:17.719 coil across. 1562 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:19.960 Yeah, it's like, god damn. 1563 01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:22.360 That was the other one that I got Taylor big time, 1564 01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:25.760 which I was surprised. The fingers in the car was brutal. Yeah, Taylor, 1565 01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:26.800 you looked you were like. 1566 01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:29.400 Oh, it was just so quick because like I just 1567 01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:33.000 had hands and doors due for me for some reason. 1568 01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:35.239 Yeah, it didn't get me there, But shout out to 1569 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:37.840 Tina before. She is a dead eye man. She takes 1570 01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:39.639 a lot of damage and she's still kicking. She's like 1571 01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:41.360 John Wick over there, her hands. 1572 01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:43.440 She was like the most normal person I think of 1573 01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:45.159 the crew too, and the most sensible. 1574 01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:47.599 She's missing a bunch of fingers and she's still fighting 1575 01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:48.960 off this demon dad with DROs. 1576 01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:50.880 It's like, I don't know what with like the shittiest 1577 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:52.440 boyfriend ever who's not doing anything. 1578 01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:56.280 Yeah, but yeah, shout out to a RepA Tina in 1579 01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:58.920 her face didn't not make it in the next movie. 1580 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.400 Sorry, I want to shout out here. 1581 01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:05.599 So the family here, this kind of stems from the 1582 01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:08.559 grandfather kind of creating and introducing this dynamic of the 1583 01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:10.679 family and having to hide the family, keep his daughter 1584 01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:12.760 safe by having this weapon protect them. 1585 01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:12.880 You know. 1586 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.360 He's part of the what was it called, like the 1587 01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:17.079 middle circle or something like that. 1588 01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:21.639 The Circle of wise Men circle WI. Yeah, so that's 1589 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:24.159 what we call ourselves behind closed doors and we're planning 1590 01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:27.400 for geek for stuff. The Circle of Unwise. 1591 01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.719 Men now on the wall and I pointed to this 1592 01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:31.199 because like a gideo butt it, but you see Bruce 1593 01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.840 Campbell and old elder Bruce Campbell, and I want to 1594 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:35.840 picture frames on the wall and he's also apparently in 1595 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:39.800 another quick frame as well. So I'm speculating, like, okay 1596 01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:42.039 that Bruce Campbell's the grandfather. 1597 01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:45.519 Well, I thought that was when they looked at the 1598 01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:47.800 photo that was the older Bruce Campll when you're talking 1599 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:49.519 about the frame on the stairs, he just looks like 1600 01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:51.119 Bruce Campbell right now, who is older. 1601 01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:53.239 But like, yeah, the picture of Bruce Campbell, it's just 1602 01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:54.920 a picture of Bruce Campbell older. But I mean, like 1603 01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:57.199 it would makes sense that this is the little family home, 1604 01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:59.000 so he'd have to be the grandfather. 1605 01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:01.519 Right, Yeah, I don't know what. I don't think anything's 1606 01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:03.760 gonna come of that. I think he's he's kind of 1607 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:07.159 he nicely part away from the series. He kind of 1608 01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:09.559 did the whole like this isn't my evil dead sort of. 1609 01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:12.719 Yeah, like the characters are relevant because we're moving this 1610 01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:15.880 no more. Yeah, like so we're moving. 1611 01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:18.000 Away from that character. Obviously they've introduced like a new 1612 01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:21.239 narratives moving forward. But I think like in retrospect, I 1613 01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:23.239 think they just threw it in there for fans to 1614 01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:25.920 probably just kind of head Kennon like like this character 1615 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.000 that you don't ever see, you just hear his voice 1616 01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:29.840 and you just kind of get to know he introduced 1617 01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.119 this problem because he's got experience with it, would be 1618 01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:34.520 Bruce Campbell. 1619 01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:37.600 Yeah, I don't like like Olsoe, it's happening now, like one. 1620 01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:39.079 I hope he's good because I know he's going through 1621 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:41.000 the cancer treatments and whatnot right now, and he says 1622 01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:43.600 it seems on their control, but still hopefully all well. 1623 01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:47.840 The Bruce Campbell, I think because of that help something. 1624 01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:49.279 And I think also because yeah, he did put out 1625 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:50.680 of the statement this year that he's kind of left 1626 01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.520 the franchise. I thought we were working towards. Yeah, Beth 1627 01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.199 was her name, and Evil that Rise. I was really 1628 01:08:57.319 --> 01:08:59.239 down for the idea of doing it, especially we'll get 1629 01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:02.960 to the end credit of getting Mia from twenty thirteen, 1630 01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:05.960 Bethroom Rise and him all together to take on something. 1631 01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.479 I still think there is juice to get and I 1632 01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:12.319 actually think there would be really as much as I 1633 01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:14.439 want them to do something a bit more comedic go around, 1634 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:17.199 I think there would be something very funny to Bruce 1635 01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:19.399 Campbell back in one that's more serious, Like if he's 1636 01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:21.520 like the lighthearted colmednything, but he's stuck in like a 1637 01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:25.560 dead ass, really gross sort of evil dead movie, Like 1638 01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:28.279 how does that character he already reacts to the Grissman, 1639 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.039 how does he react when he is seeing this type 1640 01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:34.439 of stuff. I think there's tons of potential there. But yeah, 1641 01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:36.319 he's even said that too, like, yeah, they had hits 1642 01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:38.239 without me, so they don't need So it makes me 1643 01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:40.239 sad that we're probably never gonna get ash again. And 1644 01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:42.199 I know they did a lot three movies a series, 1645 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.720 but we're getting this renaissance. And I like that he's 1646 01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:47.279 having these little cameos, but it makes me feel a 1647 01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:50.039 little bad of like, yeah, he's just kinda like left 1648 01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:52.000 in the dust, you know, so I but it sounds 1649 01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:53.920 like he had like some notes and they didn't. They 1650 01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:55.880 weren't really interested in his notes. So he's like, well, 1651 01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:56.680 I guess I'm out at here. 1652 01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:58.920 This one specifically all Evil Dead like this. 1653 01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:00.319 In the next one, he kind of I said that 1654 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:01.920 he just wasn't a fan of the way they're kind 1655 01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:04.720 of I think what I'm worried is that they are 1656 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:07.520 just trying to like let's just go, Let's just let's 1657 01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:09.800 make them you know, like I said, we'll get the 1658 01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:12.079 end credits, but just a lot of this movie does 1659 01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:15.199 feel like, hey, it's the Evil Dead universe now. It's 1660 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.920 like yeah, and maybe that for him. 1661 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:19.680 Was like we is definitely know what Rimes felt like 1662 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:20.199 at the time. 1663 01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:23.319 No, it didn't. But because it made so much money, 1664 01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:25.560 I think they're like, oh, look what we got here. 1665 01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:27.960 You know, every three years and held dead movie, you know, so, 1666 01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:30.920 but who knows, you never know, maybe he'll come back. 1667 01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.279 But my last notes were just for the credit stuff. 1668 01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:37.279 Actually, okay, let me think anything before credits that you 1669 01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:37.600 think of. 1670 01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.079 Mmm, I don't think I got anything else. 1671 01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:43.319 I'm trying to think if there's any good kills or 1672 01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:45.399 anything anything that we're missing. 1673 01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.279 Well, the I will say too, I wish we got 1674 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:49.800 a little bit more of it because they showed us 1675 01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:51.800 as a preview when they put out I think the 1676 01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:55.640 trailer before freeal Dead burns. But you see when the 1677 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:59.359 main actress with Tia when she's crawling and the mom's 1678 01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:03.720 house Alice, thank you. Yeah, so the mom and her 1679 01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:07.359 son are basically fighting dad, and you get that whole 1680 01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:09.079 cool film. 1681 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:11.960 The water. Yeah, the water. 1682 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:14.399 So then you get the brief moment where the mom 1683 01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:17.039 gets thrown and the brother or the son grows up 1684 01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:18.439 and it is like trying to help her, and then 1685 01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:21.239 you see the dad floating dead height style. That's the 1686 01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:23.640 only time that that happens. The rest of stuff is 1687 01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:24.680 like they're crawling out the. 1688 01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:25.479 Walls on the ceiling. 1689 01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:28.880 She does, but it's none of the blanket, but it's 1690 01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:31.000 not that same like in Evil Dead too, you get 1691 01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:34.680 that like the feet floating above the ground moving kind 1692 01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.119 of like gliding thing, and that's that's that aesthetic is 1693 01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:40.600 just so fucking ominous and I just that's just a 1694 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:42.239 big evil Dead kind of thing and I would have 1695 01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:46.199 loved to have had more of that, But I think 1696 01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:50.600 in this case it works great. Being kind of off 1697 01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.479 to the side, using your perpherle vision in the background. 1698 01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:55.039 It makes it a lot more terrifying. 1699 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:58.000 So yeah, that's one that I couldn't. I get it. 1700 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:00.840 This mom's going through stuff, but I I couldn't buy 1701 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:03.119 into like her mom's like floating in the sky and 1702 01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:05.399 she's like hugging her like I wish then they spent 1703 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:08.000 more time on hitting the mom being like super religious 1704 01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:08.520 and super like. 1705 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.920 They do it a little bit, but she's just super fucked. 1706 01:12:11.319 --> 01:12:14.039 Yeah, but but she's still human at this point. She's like, Oh, 1707 01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:17.079 we can all be together. So that was something very weird. 1708 01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:20.880 Type of a pacing story thing is when they before 1709 01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:23.359 Tina gets her head crushed, she's finding the entire family, 1710 01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:26.000 right and they have the scene where al SE's the 1711 01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:28.279 stun double, but Tina has the Mom and she is 1712 01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:31.119 throwing her against the wall to the point where she 1713 01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:34.239 breaks the wall and breaks the mom through her. Granted 1714 01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:36.359 they only see the mom. She's limping a little bit, 1715 01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:39.399 but she's like making tea, She's getting the grandall set 1716 01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:41.800 up for Vet. It's like, I don't know this woman. 1717 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:44.680 I think is maybe in her fifties sixties. If I'm 1718 01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:46.279 right now in my theories, if you put me through 1719 01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:48.560 a wall, I think I'm like, I'm not moving for 1720 01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:49.000 a little bit. 1721 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:51.720 Of the walls were paper. There's black mold everywhere. This 1722 01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:53.239 house was just falling up. 1723 01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:55.600 We got married here and it's just going of oar. 1724 01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:57.600 But yeah, I just thought it was funny that she 1725 01:12:57.760 --> 01:12:59.640 just like a getting destroyed. This movie with the mom 1726 01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:03.239 keeps and back up there's that ghost again there and 1727 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:05.119 then the other thing again. And what made me romanz 1728 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:06.600 a little bit too is when they threw a teena 1729 01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:09.079 into the I was happy we didn't get too much 1730 01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:10.840 of it. When they threw into the basement and locked 1731 01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:14.239 as like, oh no, are we doing We're doing this again? 1732 01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:16.239 And they didn't really, They just had that one scene 1733 01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:18.439 with the grammar of like, oh, you're gonna give me 1734 01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:20.319 back my money, and that's why I did like that. 1735 01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:22.680 It's like, oh, yeah, sure, I'll give you back what 1736 01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:25.720 you need. Yeah, that was good. But again that's just 1737 01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:27.039 like the chain so sort of thing. I was like, 1738 01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:29.680 all right, I really need some new environments I need 1739 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:31.880 I need some new stuff happening in Evil Dead. No 1740 01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:35.359 more basements, no more chainsaws, no more this or that. 1741 01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:38.399 You know. So yeah, and again that's like a character 1742 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:41.399 thing too, of like what's your guys's planned, Like you 1743 01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:43.319 just locked her up there and you hope that that's 1744 01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:46.840 gonna just work out for you after you And and. 1745 01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:49.279 Two funny phone bits where it's it's fine, I can 1746 01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:50.920 just say it's dead height magic, but like all this 1747 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.239 stuff goes down and of course just like throws down 1748 01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:55.479 his phone no signal and big things okay. 1749 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:57.640 Yeah, like full screen no signals. 1750 01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.039 Yeah, but it's like, okay, I could buy it, and 1751 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:01.319 I had to putting out some of the ways. Like 1752 01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:04.119 the one that was funny for me is like at 1753 01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:06.479 the end, Whale's chasing her construction and I like all 1754 01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:07.920 the stuff. I like the red sky of the fire 1755 01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:10.479 when she's running the road. I had some really cool visuals. 1756 01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:13.079 It's just her shadow and silhouette and the entire sky, 1757 01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:16.000 like very cool stuff. She gets a construction site and 1758 01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:18.760 she finds a walkie talking. She's trying to call for help, 1759 01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.399 and it's like, what's that I'm gonna do with? Like 1760 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.079 this is like even the other dead 's I kind 1761 01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:25.720 of understand. This guy is like ghost Rider. What's gonna 1762 01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:27.640 have the cops gonna show up and like shoot him 1763 01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.359 to death? I don't know again, it was just just 1764 01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.319 just some laughs or anything, but I think that's everything 1765 01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.439 I have. I'm trying to think there's anything I'm missing. 1766 01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:37.159 I'm sure might come up again in the future, but 1767 01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:39.239 you're right there with your alarm. 1768 01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:42.680 Yeah, Madison didn't make it, but I'm here still do. 1769 01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:46.600 Kidding he's going on And so we get two end 1770 01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:50.319 credits here for Evil Dead. Burn obviously ends with which, 1771 01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:51.920 Oh that's the thing, Taylor, because I don't think Dylan, 1772 01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:54.279 you've seen this movie super weird. The ending of this 1773 01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:59.960 movie is identical to Ready or Not. She's in there, 1774 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.560 We're all covered in blood. She asked for a cigarette. 1775 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:03.439 She's got like a broke hands. 1776 01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:03.960 She spoke it. 1777 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.479 She makes a joke about her ex husband or the family. 1778 01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:08.359 I was like, this is exactly like. 1779 01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.319 A movie's like that. But I can't think of other examples. 1780 01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:12.000 But that's funny. 1781 01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:13.840 They could be, Yeah, I guess because it's more recent one. 1782 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:15.439 I was just like, no one thought of this, but anyway, 1783 01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:19.159 so that's what happened. She in another weird moment, she 1784 01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:21.000 stabs him with the day or. He turns back to 1785 01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:23.640 regular Will says, I love you. That's not enough, kills him. 1786 01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:26.000 Oh yeah, at least she didn't kiss him. I was 1787 01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:27.720 really worried it was gonna be bad. But okay, sure 1788 01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.479 she does that. Police people show up. We don't know 1789 01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:32.720 what happens, but she seems to be safe. She go 1790 01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:34.880 in the hospital. Great, we got two any crets here, 1791 01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:37.439 I'm inn in a post credit the mid just a 1792 01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:39.359 fun one. The grandma is still on the loose. I 1793 01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:42.239 think that's gonna set up for however, deadlight'smooth again. Because 1794 01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:45.239 she has no legs. Someone pulls over to help her, says, 1795 01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:47.239 all your legs look like they'll do fine, and then 1796 01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:50.000 scratch her knee. So of course she's infected, so that's going. 1797 01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:52.399 And then the other one is we go back to 1798 01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:54.680 the funeral home, so it's like, okay, what are we 1799 01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:56.600 doing here because these characters, they don't have anything to do, 1800 01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:58.960 especially the it's just the person that was like the 1801 01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:01.720 give in the yulgi. I'm not sure if she's like 1802 01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.399 a person of the cloth. Probably yeah, oh yeah, there 1803 01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:07.039 you go funeral director and it's her their daughter, and 1804 01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:08.600 they're some tumble life and death and like, oh we 1805 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:10.479 keep what's all these Oh we keep all these urns 1806 01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:13.039 because people don't come and pick up the remains and whatnot. 1807 01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:15.399 Yet that we keep him here. Uh that she gets 1808 01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:17.039 a call and like, oh, I gotta this is probably 1809 01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:19.119 for that whatever job the guy that got killed the 1810 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:23.800 what are the cremator guy, because she's replacing him, right, Oh, 1811 01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:26.279 it's probably something for the cremation job. Shows she leaves 1812 01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:28.359 her daughter in this room with all these urns, starts 1813 01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.199 to look at them, and then we see one name. 1814 01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:31.600 I can't remember it is, but I remember the name 1815 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:33.000 being Okay, that's link to rights. 1816 01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:34.720 And then we see it's like Ellie right. 1817 01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:36.680 Well, no to the first one. They show another one. 1818 01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.000 It's like one of the kids, I think because they 1819 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.640 have different names with the father yeah, and then it 1820 01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:44.680 is yeah, and then it is Ellie. So Elissa Sidlen 1821 01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:47.479 is back in the scene, the daughter of this kid 1822 01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:50.720 whatever shakes the urn and then you hear some speaking 1823 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.159 and then she looks in the mirror. You see regular Ellie. 1824 01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:57.159 She's looking all you know, mom, gorgeous woman moving around, 1825 01:16:57.279 --> 01:17:00.399 gets her to touch her finger, touches her finger, lights 1826 01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:02.880 go out. Then behind her there's al but now she's 1827 01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:04.920 in dead ye form snaps a kid's neck and not 1828 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:07.199 even like in a way where it's like oscreen and 1829 01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:08.840 the shows let it snap track. They zoom in on 1830 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.119 that kid, but it's like evil dead. They don't care. 1831 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.880 And then they say or and then Ellie goes Mama's back. 1832 01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:18.239 I'm of two minds of this because this movie was 1833 01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.720 missing that anchor. So if you tell me, hey, we're 1834 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:22.960 gonna get more Melissa Southern than the future as Ellie, 1835 01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:25.479 that's that's great because I know that character's locked, Like, 1836 01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:27.640 I think there's great stuff you can do there. But 1837 01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:29.920 at the same time, we already got rides and I 1838 01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:32.239 feel like that story is complete. I guess there's something 1839 01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:33.760 you can do there, because if you remember her sister 1840 01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:36.159 Beth was pregnant, so maybe there's something where you pick 1841 01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:38.359 up where it's them years later. She's had her kid, 1842 01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:41.079 the other kid's grown up, and now her sister's coming 1843 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:44.800 back again. Whatever. Maybe she could be the big bat 1844 01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:46.319 of like what people are pitching if we were to 1845 01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.199 get like you know, you know, uh Ash and me 1846 01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:51.159 and all them back together and that's who, because I 1847 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:54.520 feel like she's clearly the biggest like dead eight bad 1848 01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:57.319 guy that the series have had. It just felt so 1849 01:17:57.640 --> 01:17:59.920 ems you like that. It's like, I don't know how 1850 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.239 I feel about this. I'm very torn of like I 1851 01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:04.079 like a list of some of them haven't seen anything else. 1852 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:06.239 Her is this dead eyed alley. She's gonna kill it 1853 01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:08.640 and that'll be tons of fun getting more of her. 1854 01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:10.600 But do I want her to be like the Loki 1855 01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:14.079 fanos of building up? I don't know. This for me 1856 01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:16.239 is gonna be all about execution the future. But yeah, 1857 01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:17.399 how did you feel about this? Stillon? 1858 01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:21.880 Yeah? I uh, it really did nothing for me. It 1859 01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:27.279 feels pretty forced. It's not like a particularly amazing scene either. No, 1860 01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:31.399 so yeah, I definitely definitely didn't need this, and I 1861 01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:33.560 kind of wish they just omitted it in general. To me, 1862 01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:36.039 it also, yeah, just doesn't really doesn't really feel very 1863 01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:38.479 evil deady. So yeah, it felt a little forced, a 1864 01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:42.119 little inorganic. I guess. 1865 01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:46.640 Yeah, what about you, Taylor, You said you had some questions, 1866 01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:47.039 So I. 1867 01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:50.079 Have questions because I just don't understand like she's she's 1868 01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:54.199 back in a physical form, I guess, But I just 1869 01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:56.439 don't know why they would have pursued this, because you're right, 1870 01:18:56.600 --> 01:18:59.840 Rise had that story start to finish and it wrapped 1871 01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:02.199 it up up and then we got that tie in 1872 01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:04.119 being the girl at the beginning of this movie in 1873 01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:06.439 the lake. I thought that was a great connection. It's 1874 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:09.600 leading into a new story and a new dynamic with narratives. 1875 01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:12.000 But then just to come full circle, I feel like, Okay, 1876 01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:15.279 now we got this mom back, and so the first 1877 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:18.359 mid credit scene is focusing the story this way, and 1878 01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:20.960 now this is focusing the story that way. I feel 1879 01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:23.600 like it's just two movies. That's why that's two movies. 1880 01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:27.960 But I don't think that this movie is like financially, 1881 01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:30.439 I don't know even the franchise right now is set. 1882 01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:30.680 Up to be. 1883 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:35.239 Getting that because Wrath is in the past. But now 1884 01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:37.520 you're telling me we're going to get a sequel that's 1885 01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:42.680 going to have Granny's succession here and then a sequel 1886 01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:46.880 with the mom coming back, or is it all going 1887 01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:48.520 to culminate in the past with wrath. 1888 01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:51.920 I'll take that. If we got a list of Southern 1889 01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:54.079 seventies for somebody that she goes back, that that'd be 1890 01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:55.720 fun to see what happens. She has to go back 1891 01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.960 to her like young self or something, and you got 1892 01:19:58.000 --> 01:19:59.960 like a young actress playing Ellie to fight like at all. 1893 01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:02.680 But I think the Graham things just for fun, and 1894 01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:04.199 it's like, if we ever want to do something with 1895 01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:06.840 this again, it's like the girl from Rise right where 1896 01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:09.039 it's set up that she was in the water. Ah, 1897 01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:10.840 we used her to transition over there. I don't think 1898 01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:12.680 they have to do anything with the Gramma, but they could. 1899 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:14.760 I think obviously got rap. I do think that'll be 1900 01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:17.039 its own thing. I hope it is. I think the 1901 01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:19.840 Ellie thing is the we're gonna bring back those Rise 1902 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:21.640 characters and do that because that was a big hit, 1903 01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:23.079 and I don't I don't think this movie's gonna be 1904 01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:25.000 do as good as Rise. We gonna remember, these movies 1905 01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:27.680 are still made pretty cheap, so I still think it's 1906 01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:29.319 gonna make a profit to the point where we will 1907 01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:31.439 also we're getna yield Dead Wrap. I think if you 1908 01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:33.640 get that and this back to back and they're maybe 1909 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:35.880 a little underwhelming money wise, they might question it. But 1910 01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:38.079 I think that's why you bring a character like Ellie 1911 01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:41.000 back because that was I could be wrong. Is it 1912 01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:43.960 the biggest evil Dead of all time? Maybe that's maybe 1913 01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:46.199 that's why they're just so bullish on this franchise right now. 1914 01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:47.000 I think that's true. 1915 01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:49.399 That doesn't Yeah, I think that is true. So I 1916 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:50.840 feel like that's the thing too, where it's like. 1917 01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:53.359 Okay, the marketing campaign was really good. 1918 01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:56.319 Yeah, okay, so it was let's see, yeah, it's Evil 1919 01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.239 Dead Rise. That's the biggest movie of this franchise. So 1920 01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:02.079 that's where it's like, again, if you look at the franchise, 1921 01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:03.600 to me, if you look at who's like the number 1922 01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:06.199 one Battie, I know it's the most recent, but there's 1923 01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:09.600 not many like like even again in twenty thirteen. Mia. 1924 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.199 She's also the protagonist of that movie, right, so it's 1925 01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:13.960 kind of a and she's good at the end of that. 1926 01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:15.880 So I think it's a way where it's kind of 1927 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.079 she's like a break glass option of like oh, you know, 1928 01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:20.560 if let's say Burn didn't do as well and rapped 1929 01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:22.399 and do as well, let's do one more with Ellie 1930 01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:25.560 because everyone really liked that villain and uh, you know, 1931 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:28.479 biggest evil dead of all time. So numbers speak for 1932 01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:31.439 itself there, so it's true. And again she I'll see 1933 01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:33.399 if I can find even like what the budgets for 1934 01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:40.199 this evil dead Burn budget was twenty million. Yeah, they're fine. 1935 01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:43.399 They just they just got hit forty and they're in 1936 01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:45.319 the they're getting in the profit song, and I think 1937 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:46.920 this thing will at least make like one hundred million. 1938 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:48.760 So that's the thing where it's like, that's a nice budget. 1939 01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:51.159 Yeah, And that's where it's like everything else we'll talk 1940 01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:53.880 about you right with back Rooms Obsession, other horror films 1941 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:56.399 like even Undertones, right, that movie was made for I 1942 01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:58.600 think like five million and made like double or like 1943 01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:00.159 four times its budget. 1944 01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:02.680 Like you know, I mean you were talking about that 1945 01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:05.560 at the start, that like this is Southern hasn't risen 1946 01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:07.960 to some huge fame or anything like that. I wonder 1947 01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:11.319 how much her paycheck would be though, to bring her 1948 01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:13.479 back for like a full Obviously she's probably paid to 1949 01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:15.560 be in this scene here but like, what would be 1950 01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:17.439 like to pay her to bring for this? Like can 1951 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:20.680 you keep these budgets low and bring back someone like 1952 01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:23.479 I'm sure she would do it if considering what I mean, 1953 01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.239 she's probably been in some cool stuff since then. We 1954 01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:26.880 don't know what those things are, but I'm sure she's 1955 01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:29.319 done something. But she's I guess if part of the 1956 01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:31.840 game plan for Evil Dead is like budgets low, I 1957 01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:35.680 wonder how much like bringing back old characters who don't 1958 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:37.479 really need to but might do it for like the 1959 01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:39.800 right paycheck. If that kind of breaks the bank and 1960 01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:41.560 makes this unsustainable. Who knows. 1961 01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:44.039 We'll see she's only been one other thing that came 1962 01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:47.439 out in twenty twenty three, the Mental sty Weird. Yeah, 1963 01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:49.520 so I don't know. Maybe she decided she took a 1964 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:51.840 break and it was doing something. But even then, you 1965 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:53.840 got to think back in that day, she probably didn't 1966 01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:55.840 get paid like a crazy amount. I bet think he 1967 01:22:56.039 --> 01:22:56.880 say like, hey, we'll give you that. 1968 01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:59.359 In Double True, so much about momentum, that's kind of 1969 01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:03.359 surprising that she hasn't been either by her choice or 1970 01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:04.800 just just hasn't worked out. 1971 01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:08.800 Who knows, but she's in a movie, own brother, what's 1972 01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:11.840 going on here. She's a movie called The Room Below. 1973 01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:14.279 I mean I just quickly screenshare this because this is 1974 01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:20.359 I don't know, man, not looking too good. That's a 1975 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:23.640 straight to DVD, like call anything right there. So until 1976 01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:25.560 maybe there's not much you gotta get. 1977 01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:26.920 It's a horrendous movie. 1978 01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:30.319 There's not much you gotta do to get her back. 1979 01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:33.199 But again, I'm interested this. This movie wasn't so bad. 1980 01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:35.279 We're'm like, oh, it's it's over. Like it's not like 1981 01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:37.920 a vultures shown up in the end credit. More we 1982 01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:39.640 be seeing like, oh, we're really cooked. It's like, okay, 1983 01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:44.359 I'm I'm trepidacious, but like, I'm all down for how 1984 01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:47.279 we go again? If it's leading to the crossover of 1985 01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:49.319 even a couple, even if it's the Three Ladies, Let's 1986 01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:51.840 say Bruce Cammel's out of it's Alice, Mia and Beth 1987 01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:53.439 from last movie. I think there's some fun thing of 1988 01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:55.279 like all these ladies that survive the Dead Night, it's 1989 01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:57.800 gotta come back together, you know, there there is some 1990 01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:01.119 fun stuff to do. It's just all but execute. But Dylan, 1991 01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:03.279 what would you mate this one? 1992 01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:07.319 I will give Evil dead Burn a six point five 1993 01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:07.800 out of ten. 1994 01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:11.319 We are just in line tonight, sir. I'm exactly where 1995 01:24:11.399 --> 01:24:14.239 you are. I think. For on the filmmaking side, I'd 1996 01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:15.920 go like a seven because I love a lot of 1997 01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.359 the shots in here. But then on the filmmaking side, 1998 01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:21.359 for the like the script and story wise, that kind 1999 01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:23.520 of takes it down. So I was between a six 2000 01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:26.000 and the number that comes after since I'm going right 2001 01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:27.680 in the middle, like you a six point five. 2002 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:29.239 So I like that pivot. 2003 01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:33.319 Yeah it Kurculum would wake up out of a sickness there. 2004 01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:37.239 What about you, I'm gonna go six point seventy five. 2005 01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:42.199 I feel like I'm not I'm not as not as 2006 01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:44.159 low on it, but I'm a little bit higher than 2007 01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:47.159 you guys. Yeah, I just I think that the not much, 2008 01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:51.319 not much, because again, I feel like the violence was 2009 01:24:51.319 --> 01:24:53.520 definitely a little bit more tame. Some scenes were rushed, 2010 01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:56.000 and just some of the stuff the characters do didn't 2011 01:24:56.079 --> 01:24:57.560 feel like Evil Dead comedic. 2012 01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:01.279 It just felt bad like that. 2013 01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:03.359 And I'm not trying to I'm not trying to dog 2014 01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:05.880 on on it or anything like, because I did have 2015 01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:07.199 a good time with the movie. 2016 01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:08.119 I like this. 2017 01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:11.680 I like that you have the universe of Evil Dead 2018 01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:13.960 and this movie I think does a good job at 2019 01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:16.680 polling different things and making those little cameos, like when 2020 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:19.479 when Tia gets thrown into the basement, it's like, oh, 2021 01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:21.079 you know, there's a little callback. You know, all these 2022 01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:23.920 dead it's always gt thrown into basements or or sellers 2023 01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:26.800 and whatnot. And some of the comedy stuff with the 2024 01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:29.119 Grandma that made me laugh too. You know, she's thinking 2025 01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:30.760 to you is always stealing from her and all that 2026 01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:34.439 jazz and uh, you know, you get that shot of 2027 01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:37.520 Alice looking down the stairs and Granny's tied to the 2028 01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:39.199 chair and she's down at the bottom. She's you know, 2029 01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:42.239 she's looks she's rubbing cutting that leg off, you know, 2030 01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:43.479 going like crazy and. 2031 01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:46.840 I'm clipping it. 2032 01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:52.159 Oh but yeah, just all that stuff. It's it's uh yeah, 2033 01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:56.600 I think that this movie will it will not stand 2034 01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:00.760 as strongly as Rise did. But you know, for me, 2035 01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:03.039 I got Evil Dead two, Evil Dead Rise? 2036 01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:04.760 What O. 2037 01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:06.960 Those are kind of like my higher end ones that 2038 01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.039 I'll go to before I go about thirteen. 2039 01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:10.479 That's a crazy. 2040 01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:11.439 Thirteen's in there too. 2041 01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:14.239 I'm just I'm not not in that order, but like 2042 01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:17.560 thirteen Rise and Evil Dead two, like those, I'm gonna 2043 01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:20.159 go to those ones before before this one, I'd have 2044 01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:22.000 to think and actually give like a Pupper ranking or 2045 01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:22.840 did we do the rankings? 2046 01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:24.279 I can't even remember back in the Yeah we. 2047 01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:27.359 Did, we did act but I can. Maybe we'll revisit 2048 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:29.359 for a Wrath when we got a couple more entries 2049 01:26:29.439 --> 01:26:32.279 in the franchise there. But yeah, we'll we'll we'll be 2050 01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:34.039 back for Wrath. We'll see what that's going on again. 2051 01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:36.560 I'm excited to get seventies. I'm excited at the idea 2052 01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:39.479 of a sex coming of age Tael. I think they 2053 01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:42.319 we got a little bit of the kiss. I think 2054 01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:45.079 we might see some dead ights fucking in this next week, 2055 01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:46.920 and I hope I'm hoping that's maybe more comedic, you know. 2056 01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:49.439 I'm hoping that's a bit more because you know that 2057 01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:51.479 can be funny. Dead height's having sex, you know. So 2058 01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:54.079 we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens in the future. 2059 01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:58.319 This has been GB seven twelve, and I promise you 2060 01:26:58.399 --> 01:26:59.920 and hear from this next it won't be boring. 2061 01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:01.159 Goodbye. 2062 01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:01.319 N