Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and Jim and welcome to the seven hundred
Speaker 1: and twelfth episode of the Geek Ferst Podcast. I am
Speaker 1: the total Eclipse of the Heart Trust now and I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By Hey, my name's Dolmus.
Speaker 1: I'm the Granny Style to the field Granny Style. My goodness,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that in my life, but here we are.
Speaker 1: We are back with another Evil Dead. We got some
Speaker 1: history of this franchise. I did re release all the
Speaker 1: retros that we did, god how many years I think
Speaker 1: it was like four years ago we did them, so
Speaker 1: they're back on the feeds now because well, if you
Speaker 1: want to know what our thoughts are, we reviewed every
Speaker 1: single one Evil Dead, Evil Dead Too, Army Darkness, Evil
Speaker 1: Dead twenty thirteen, Evil Dead Rights and now here we
Speaker 1: are at Evil Dead Burn. So if you want our thoughts, wondering, hey,
Speaker 1: what do we think about those, you can go back
Speaker 1: there on the feeds right now. As usual, we're going
Speaker 1: to give our overalls, our recommendations, our review, all non spoilers,
Speaker 1: and then we'll do a little break and then we'll
Speaker 1: warn you, hey, we're in the spoiler wall, and so
Speaker 1: if you don't want to get any of that, then
Speaker 1: go away. If you don't care, then buckle up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: here we are. Dylan mus what do you think of
Speaker 1: Evil Dead burned? Do you have like a quick in
Speaker 1: case people don't listen to those reviews, give like a
Speaker 1: quick elevator pitch of your feelings on the Evil Dead franchise,
Speaker 1: and then I'll see, uh, if you've been burned tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, It's it's always fun when you're doing one
Speaker 2: like this. Because Evil Dead was a series. I had
Speaker 2: not seen that all before Evil Dead Rise came out
Speaker 2: and we did the retrospective, so I finally went through
Speaker 2: and watched all those movies back to back, and then
Speaker 2: we did the ranking and all that fun stuff. But
Speaker 2: now now it's been like what two or three years
Speaker 2: since that movie, and I haven't like revisited any of
Speaker 2: those movies. So it's like all my Evil Dead was
Speaker 2: kind of contained to this like two month long period
Speaker 2: of my life, and now it's been a couple of
Speaker 2: years and I'm kind of revisiting it. And this is
Speaker 2: a movie that I don't think I ever caught a
Speaker 2: trailer for once, you know, when it was like a
Speaker 2: weekly conversation. I was not on that episode. I haven't
Speaker 2: been to the movie since Mario, and they're definitely not
Speaker 2: playing an evil dead Burn trailer at Mario.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And a couple of times YouTube has tried to serve
Speaker 2: me one of those ads, but then I hit skip
Speaker 2: in like three seconds, you know. So I didn't really
Speaker 2: know anything about this movie, didn't know what the premise
Speaker 2: or setup was, didn't know any of the actors. I
Speaker 2: don't think I would have known any of the actors anyway,
Speaker 2: because they kind of go with some lesser known people,
Speaker 2: or at least lesser known to me in particular. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fun to get back into this series, and also
Speaker 2: to go into a movie with no expectations whatsoever, because
Speaker 2: these days, when we're reviewing things talking about trailers all
Speaker 2: the time, sometimes that doesn't happen as often. So it's
Speaker 2: fun to go in blind a little bit evil dead Burn.
Speaker 2: I guess what I'll say about this movie is I
Speaker 2: feel like, if you just want like a simple movie
Speaker 2: that has, you know, not much going on in the
Speaker 2: plot wise, but you just want some big gory kills,
Speaker 2: then like this, you know this movie will get the
Speaker 2: job done. This it will be a movie for you.
Speaker 2: There's certainly some moments I had to cringe and look
Speaker 2: away from the screen because it was so nasty. But overall,
Speaker 2: I think as a movie definitely has like an Evil
Speaker 2: Dead movie. I feel like it didn't really have much
Speaker 2: going in the way of character or personality. I think
Speaker 2: there's something very distinct about all of these movies in
Speaker 2: the past, and maybe kind of less so with Rise, honestly,
Speaker 2: since it is maybe a bit of a deviation from those,
Speaker 2: and I feel like Burne is kind of as well.
Speaker 2: Is there almost just like anthology or something like that,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't. I overall, I think coming away
Speaker 2: from this, while I had like an okay time and
Speaker 2: some of the scenes were kind of fun, I was
Speaker 2: pretty underwhelmed with this movie overall. I feel like that,
Speaker 2: you know, there's one character that I felt like kind
Speaker 2: of invested in, but that was more just like relative
Speaker 2: to everyone else, who were a bunch of duds in
Speaker 2: my opinion. There was some good scenes, of course, some
Speaker 2: of that good gore, but I also felt like there
Speaker 2: was a couple of scenes that they're really trying to
Speaker 2: build up the suspense and tension, and then it kind
Speaker 2: of deflated a little bit, Like there's a particular dinner
Speaker 2: scene that I thought was going super well and then
Speaker 2: it just like ends in really flat wing. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like the most tense movie part of the
Speaker 2: movie so far, and then I felt like that happened
Speaker 2: a couple times unfortunately, And I think some of it
Speaker 2: just comes down to like maybe some clunky choreography or
Speaker 2: things like that. You know, certain things when you get
Speaker 2: in a zooming on someone's face getting ripped up by
Speaker 2: a razor. Obviously that's intense and gross, but I feel
Speaker 2: like it needs the moments in between to kind of
Speaker 2: tie those things together and build up the suspense, and
Speaker 2: it lacks some of that. Acting is kind of weak,
Speaker 2: stories super weak. I don't really know what this movie is.
Speaker 2: Like Objective was like, I feel like it's kind of
Speaker 2: just trying to be Gore poorn essentially and like grab
Speaker 2: a couple of evil dead things. But I don't feel
Speaker 2: like it like expands on. Not that the lure is
Speaker 2: super deep anyway, you kind of have to infer a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. But I don't know. I don't feel
Speaker 2: like this movie is really doing anything particularly unique either. Obviously,
Speaker 2: like the burn is in the title and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of thematicness around fire and burning into this movie
Speaker 2: without getting into the specifics of it. But I also
Speaker 2: I don't know if that really I guess you could,
Speaker 2: you know, pull some meaning out of that and love
Speaker 2: or desire or family or something like that, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think I'd be just g as Meet
Speaker 2: Straws to try and find like what exactly this movie
Speaker 2: was trying to accomplish. So yeah, I think it definitely
Speaker 2: lacks that Evil Dead, that evil Dead sauce. Maybe you know,
Speaker 2: not all of them need to be have that comedic
Speaker 2: angle because they don't. They definitely don't all have that,
Speaker 2: but I think that is something that sets to depart
Speaker 2: from movies that feel very similar. But honestly, other than
Speaker 2: like an necronomicon being mentioned, I feel like you could
Speaker 2: this could easily not be an Evil Dead movie at all,
Speaker 2: is kind of how I feel about it. I'm also
Speaker 2: not super pressed about the series, so I don't really
Speaker 2: care too much about that. I was more just like, hey,
Speaker 2: give me a good horror movie, and even at that
Speaker 2: it was like, eh, it's just okay. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think overall pretty underwhelmed. I'd have to really listen to
Speaker 2: the ranking I don't know where i'd slot this one, honestly,
Speaker 2: because I don't love the whole series. I really just
Speaker 2: love Army of Darkness and then like a couple of
Speaker 2: other ones. Well, twenty thirteen was pretty great. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm rambling now, so all of you guys take the
Speaker 2: take the fiery biton.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if I recall I feel like you're
Speaker 1: like Army of Darkness twenty thirteen, Evil Dead too, evil Dead,
Speaker 1: and then Rise because you were underwell Rise.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of Rise was pretty underwhelming as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a lot of things in the original
Speaker 1: you didn't like either, So I think those are cephal
Speaker 1: nestled safely under the tree there. But would you sworen't
Speaker 1: doing a re rank amp? So would you put this
Speaker 1: last in now? Well, I guess you said you'd have
Speaker 1: to think right, and.
Speaker 2: I'd have to watch Rise again, which I don't want
Speaker 2: to do. I feel like I like Rise more. I
Speaker 2: feel like i've weirdly enough, Yeah, I didn't. I listened
Speaker 2: to a bit of our review and I was kind
Speaker 2: of cold on it. But in my mind, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I like that movie is fine, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: So you saw I haveter revisit it, so I'll stick
Speaker 2: this one at like maybe the bottom or like second
Speaker 2: from the bottom or something. But I don't know, honestly,
Speaker 2: other than like the top two of twenty thirteen and
Speaker 2: Army of Darkness, like they kind of just all blend together.
Speaker 2: To me, it doesn't really matter what the order is.
Speaker 1: So you saw this one, You're like, you know, Rise
Speaker 1: wasn't actually that bad, and hello, thinking back to three
Speaker 1: years ago, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, maybe I was just thinking of one.
Speaker 2: You know, was Sutherland in particular, is such a standout
Speaker 2: in that movie. I feel like this movie didn't have
Speaker 2: a standout, whether that's a dead dight or a or
Speaker 2: a human and protagonists that were following. So maybe that's
Speaker 2: something that like when I think back on the movie,
Speaker 2: I can remember that in some of her scenes, whereas
Speaker 2: I don't know what from this movie I'm gonna remember
Speaker 2: like when the next one comes out or two years
Speaker 2: from now or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: We've said this before. There must be some sort of
Speaker 1: curse with the Evil Dead franchise. Is not the first time,
Speaker 1: but I thought after that movie, I think I even
Speaker 1: drafted her for a year. I thought, oh, listen, lista Sutherland.
Speaker 1: She's gonna be a bunch of stuff, like how people
Speaker 1: do not see that performance? Be like, let's let's just
Speaker 1: like get her in this get not even like comics
Speaker 1: of just like anything, just like And I think I've
Speaker 1: not seen her in a single thing since the same
Speaker 1: thing we talked about in that retro Bruce Campbell were like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's so charismatic, such a good lead. He's in nothing.
Speaker 1: Jane Levy, she kills it as a god. What was
Speaker 1: her characters is Jane? I think right? No, her name's
Speaker 1: Jane Levy. What the heck was her name? In twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen for some reason, no idea. I'll have to I'll
Speaker 1: pull it up here because it was bugging me. Here me, Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: there we go. So I guess I gonna do this
Speaker 1: in a backwards way I think you were, and I'll
Speaker 1: go Usually I like to go last, but I think
Speaker 1: I'm I might be aligned with uh with Dylan. Me
Speaker 1: and Taylor saw it together, but we didn't say a
Speaker 1: single word after We didn't say a single word, so
Speaker 1: we just kept it to you know, as we do
Speaker 1: podcast life. But I've probably been more in line with
Speaker 1: Dylan here and think you're talking about that special sauce.
Speaker 1: That's the thing where I'm going over those leads. That's
Speaker 1: something that all I'd say those five because he has
Speaker 1: five evil dead movies have in common that this doesn't.
Speaker 1: That you have, whether it's a dead bite or the
Speaker 1: hero lead, you have that one anchor in the movie.
Speaker 1: You got Bruce Cambell in the first three, you got
Speaker 1: Jane Levy as me and Evil did twenty thirteen, who Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a deadite, but she's so fun to watch and
Speaker 1: she goes back and forth between being a dead bite
Speaker 1: and normal like you're rooting for her. And then Alyssa's Sutherland.
Speaker 1: She's other than the first act. She is just the
Speaker 1: moster the whole way through. But she's such dynamite on screen.
Speaker 1: That's what this movie is really lacking. It does not
Speaker 1: have that anchor whatsoever. And I don't think there's anyone
Speaker 1: like bad bad in here. I don't think there's anyone amazing,
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's ayone like, oh, they're really
Speaker 1: stinking it up. It's just that there's no one that
Speaker 1: just like stands out or elevates. But the same I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a role in here that could have
Speaker 1: been that, right, It's not like, oh, they have that
Speaker 1: one main thing. And I guess you could say the
Speaker 1: main character of this And I don't think the lead here, Alice,
Speaker 1: is particularly like bad or anything. It's just that even
Speaker 1: the writing of this character, I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: standout moments. Right. Obviously, Bruce Campbell very charismatic with me.
Speaker 1: You have she's trying to get over addiction and drugs,
Speaker 1: and then with the list of Sutherland, you have the
Speaker 1: kids with this character, not big spis my I suppose
Speaker 1: she's just like she's a widow and there's some relationship
Speaker 1: drama with it. But we never dive too deep. It
Speaker 1: always feels like it's put way in the background, you know,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of these storylines. It feels like
Speaker 1: there is surface level stuff. I think this is a
Speaker 1: you are here for the gore and I'll give them this.
Speaker 1: There are lots of cool shots in this trade or
Speaker 1: in this movie somewhere in the trailer, but some weren't.
Speaker 1: There's just tons of cool imagery and there's sons of
Speaker 1: cool that was in the trailer. But there's one where
Speaker 1: the girl's on the bathroom floor and she gets a
Speaker 1: bag put over and then they walk up the whole
Speaker 1: wall to the roof. They were having fun on the set,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where visually it stands out quite
Speaker 1: a bit. And there's lots of close cuts, there's lots
Speaker 1: of quick editing, so it has lots of style. I
Speaker 1: think it just might be a style over substance sort
Speaker 1: of deal here. And I saw I supposed in the
Speaker 1: discord he put that he'd heard the bleakest evil Dead yet,
Speaker 1: but also the most funniest since, like, you know, because
Speaker 1: Rise and twenty thirteen didn't really have that humor. I'll
Speaker 1: say they win for that. But the problem for me
Speaker 1: is a distdann't not much of the humor fit, you know,
Speaker 1: even I feel like I lacked more and Rise, which
Speaker 1: was like very dark, dark humor, but I thought I
Speaker 1: got more. Chuckles were here. It just kind of felt
Speaker 1: like if you're in a comedy club and there's a
Speaker 1: guy doing jokes.
Speaker 2: I can't even think of a single funny moment in
Speaker 2: this movie. Actually, I think I don't think I had one.
Speaker 1: I think the Dead Kits are stuff, the Grandma stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think the Dead Dits are a bit more
Speaker 1: like jokey here, but like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like when Mia is like, hey, you want to suck
Speaker 1: your cock? Pretty well, like that's not a joke, but
Speaker 1: the way Jane Levy and they deliver, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is kind of fucked up and funny. They try
Speaker 1: that in this movie, but it just doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: really get there. So yeah, I think, and to go
Speaker 1: back all the way around, I love Evil Dead. I
Speaker 1: Evil Dead. Something I saw very early on, even though
Speaker 1: it's the funny one. I remember seeing Evil Dead two
Speaker 1: scaring the shimmy a little bit. Is that scene where
Speaker 1: Ash turns into a deadite for a little bit, and
Speaker 1: I saw it way too young, and just the way
Speaker 1: he looks that, him going in the water and coming
Speaker 1: out and being Deadit stuck with me for years until
Speaker 1: I saw it twenty thirteen I loved. And then I
Speaker 1: actually really did love Rise as well too. So I've
Speaker 1: been very happy with this franchise. And I said, because
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen that was a big hit, and it
Speaker 1: took ten years or yeah, ten years for the make another.
Speaker 1: And I always went, why, like their low budget, you know,
Speaker 1: there's probably lots of filmmakers that do or have a
Speaker 1: vision for this. And then Office Rise came out, was
Speaker 1: supposed to go streaming, was a big hit, and then
Speaker 1: they go, okay, now it's been three years, and I thought, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's more like it. You know, kids, there's a movie
Speaker 1: called Session out there. Gotta be careful what you wish for,
Speaker 1: because there's a few things in this movie that I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I think we're doing some things
Speaker 1: that we've done too many times. I think we're sending
Speaker 1: things up in like an MC type of way where
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, so now I'm now a
Speaker 1: little a little word. Maybe it's best that Evil Dead
Speaker 1: is like a yeah, every ten years it comes around
Speaker 1: because Scream has that problem nowadays too. Write me and
Speaker 1: Tary review that. It's like what else is there to
Speaker 1: do now? And I am excited for the next one, Rath,
Speaker 1: because they're going back the seventies and that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be like a sexual coming of age thing, and that
Speaker 1: already feels like that has a take. And my last point,
Speaker 1: just to Dylan's point, Yeah, it just feels like there
Speaker 1: isn't much of a full take here. It feels like
Speaker 1: it's there, but that's really buried underneath the gore and
Speaker 1: the creepiness. And yeah, I didn't attach to any characters.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I'll never watch this again.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad movie. I had a good time.
Speaker 1: It's a fun horror movie. I think it's better made
Speaker 1: than a lot of other horror I shouldn't say that,
Speaker 1: but just a lot of probably stuff out there that
Speaker 1: is in the genre, just from a filmmaking point of view.
Speaker 1: But I don't know when i'd watched this again. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I will at some point in my life, but
Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not like Rise or twenty three Team
Speaker 1: and where it's like, oh man, well that's on streaming,
Speaker 1: that's on blue ray. I can't wait to pop that
Speaker 1: back in and go on that roller coaster right again.
Speaker 1: This felt like a roller coaster of like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: ready to get off. I know we've been here for
Speaker 1: a bit, but I'm I'm good to go. And it
Speaker 1: felt long. I'll look while Taylor's talking about all the
Speaker 1: run times is compared, it's only an hour fifty two,
Speaker 1: But many times I was like, okay, let's round it
Speaker 1: out here. So yeah, so again, not bad. I would
Speaker 1: recommend it. If you're a fan of the franchise, absolutely,
Speaker 1: if you like torture porn, absolutely, If you're kind of
Speaker 1: maybe more on the fence, like if you're like Dylan
Speaker 1: where you like some but you don't like others, I
Speaker 1: think you can wait for streaming for this one. There
Speaker 1: is some great visuals, don't get me wrong. So I
Speaker 1: guess if you're a visual like camera cineatography not then sure,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it is Uh, you got to
Speaker 1: run out to see this one unfortunately, so that that
Speaker 1: which is kind of a bummer. But you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. So Taylor run us out here. What
Speaker 1: did you think of? What is your history of the
Speaker 1: Old Dead quickly? You know Elevator pitch and then your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this movie?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so my my history goes back to uh,
Speaker 3: eve'l Dead two was the one that kind of introduced
Speaker 3: me into this franchise, Cmember.
Speaker 2: I was younger, and I put.
Speaker 3: It on and I don't know what it was, but
Speaker 3: there was just certain visuals in this movie that just
Speaker 3: really roped me in. Uh it's Ash's girlfriend, just the
Speaker 3: head rolling around on the decapitated body, and just like
Speaker 3: the dancing scene or just when the other crew, like
Speaker 3: after ash is fighting the Dead, Night's the other crew
Speaker 3: of people show up and then it's just it's chaos
Speaker 3: or by don you know, Granny and the Base. But
Speaker 3: there's so many different things going on in that movie,
Speaker 3: and that's just what really pulled me in, uh so,
Speaker 3: getting into yeah, the Original and then Army of Darkness
Speaker 3: and then ash Re's Evil Dead, which I think is
Speaker 3: just like a it's a I don't say guilty pleasure
Speaker 3: because it's not like it's a bad show. It's just
Speaker 3: it's a it's a crazy, flamboyant, comedic heck of a time,
Speaker 3: and I enjoy a lot of that. It's just it's
Speaker 3: it's a hell of a ride. But uh yeah, ever
Speaker 3: since then and everything that we've kind of had introduced,
Speaker 3: it's just such an interesting universe. And it's just there's
Speaker 3: so many little things with it comes to the Dead
Speaker 3: Dights that I find curious, like their weaknesses, how they
Speaker 3: spread and how you get infected with you know, the
Speaker 3: the pet this the dead Ight, whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call it. And then it's just there's so many different
Speaker 3: kind of things that are just okay. They're always changing
Speaker 3: the kind of cannon or the way that they're doing things,
Speaker 3: and I kind of like, I'm fine with that because
Speaker 3: it's just kind of trying to keep up and just
Speaker 3: kind of learn more about this universe. So getting into
Speaker 3: this one, I feel like it was the most tame
Speaker 3: in terms of gore. I feel like Rise and twenty
Speaker 3: thirteen were way above in terms of its gore, and
Speaker 3: like there's some of the craziness, yeah, like.
Speaker 1: The stuff in har but so below.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised on that this Like there's some great gross
Speaker 2: moments in here, but when you compare it to like
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen's Evil Dead, the tongue stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, and you got like the kids, what they're
Speaker 3: doing a Rise, like eating glass and all these other
Speaker 3: like gross disgusting things.
Speaker 2: Like there's just there's a lot.
Speaker 3: Of that kind of stuff that I feel like is
Speaker 3: a little bit higher than here in this movie. I
Speaker 3: feel like, Okay, there's at least two scenes that just
Speaker 3: really grossed me out that I think like, like, ah, but.
Speaker 2: What I do around? I was moving around. I was
Speaker 2: moving around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had no more M and M, so I
Speaker 3: couldn't I couldn't bite my way out of it. But
Speaker 3: I think that these modern day Evil Dead films, like
Speaker 3: you guys highlighted the way they shoot some of these scenes,
Speaker 3: they're fantastic. Like you mentioned, Travis, the bathroom scene and
Speaker 3: this one was great. You know, you go to Rise,
Speaker 3: you get that hallway scene through the people, which is
Speaker 3: just fucking terrifying and intense. You get all these awesome
Speaker 3: even the intro to Rise too. I was hoping we
Speaker 3: get a banger intro here, but it didn't for me.
Speaker 3: It didn't compete with Rise get that music and every way.
Speaker 1: Until we get this boys, I even thought they were
Speaker 1: sending something up. It could have been cheesy, but I'll wait.
Speaker 1: But they were like zooming on a way. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: they got something cooking here. And then it was just
Speaker 1: the graphic. But it's hard to pull that off every time. Right,
Speaker 1: that was a unique one.
Speaker 3: But all in all, I feel like I'm not over
Speaker 3: the moon for this, this addition to the franchise. I'm
Speaker 3: definitely I can appreciate it and enjoy it. My biggest
Speaker 3: thing in terms of appreciating it would be I actually
Speaker 3: like the kind of.
Speaker 2: I didn't like, how do I say this.
Speaker 3: I like how they were kind of trying to expand
Speaker 3: and tap into little things that they've created in all
Speaker 3: the different movies. You can see like oh, well, this
Speaker 3: scene is like paying tribute to this and the franchise
Speaker 3: of this, Like, oh, you got these different things going on.
Speaker 3: It feels like, Okay, they've taken the universe and kind
Speaker 3: of culminated it into the events in this movie, and
Speaker 3: they've introduced some different things that I liked, like well,
Speaker 3: I'll say that for spoilers, but the thing that got
Speaker 3: too far fetched for me was the.
Speaker 2: The two post credits.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say what they are, but you
Speaker 3: have one that I feel like, Okay, this enhances the
Speaker 3: story and another one which is just kind of like
Speaker 3: a right turn, and I feel like, Okay, this is
Speaker 3: where we'll get to Wrath. Wrath is obviously a prequel,
Speaker 3: I'm and I mean, time travel is obviously a thing
Speaker 3: with evil dead.
Speaker 2: I doubt they're going to touch upon that, and here
Speaker 2: I be. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're going back to that. I think
Speaker 3: that's a one and done thing with the comedic side
Speaker 3: of things. But when you look at what they're doing
Speaker 3: and what they were setting up with this movie. I
Speaker 3: feel like, Okay, we need more Evil Dead sequels now
Speaker 3: to explain this stuff, unless it's all supposed to cull
Speaker 3: into one more movie where things kind of converge in
Speaker 3: each other. But then story wise, it doesn't seem to
Speaker 3: make sense at least maybe I'm missing something. But we'll
Speaker 3: break it down at spoilers when we get to it,
Speaker 3: because I feel like I have a couple of questions
Speaker 3: regarding I like that.
Speaker 1: You're trying to make sense of anything. It's like there's
Speaker 1: some fucking book in a like a cabinet, or they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a fourth book and that explains X, Y and.
Speaker 3: Z, Like there's books with notes you know, people have written.
Speaker 3: There's like twenty thousand books out there, no notes ever on.
Speaker 1: The cover of the first page. And just don't read this,
Speaker 1: just put it back. They always that for the back half,
Speaker 1: like oh, and if you say these four wards but
Speaker 1: don't do it, they'll cause great harm and problems. And
Speaker 1: but who knows that could be a reason of why them,
Speaker 1: like the past two have done so well. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: getting a bit big for their bridges, Like oh, we
Speaker 1: can start to really expand this thing. But that's where
Speaker 1: just you gotta be careful, you know, you just gotta
Speaker 1: like again, are people it's like, we've a couple of
Speaker 1: other franchises. Do they want to be there for an
Speaker 1: Evil Dead movie or do they want to be there
Speaker 1: for Evil Dead the franchise? And it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know about that, Like I guess we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with this one, but like then to start
Speaker 1: committing to because even like it's we've saw this in
Speaker 1: the trailers and they only showed one thing before we
Speaker 1: getting spoils that like this was connected to Rise and
Speaker 1: that is the opening up this movie. So that's never
Speaker 1: other than and even the Ash movies. They're all connected,
Speaker 1: but in like a very weird, like loose way, right,
Speaker 1: Like Evil Dead two is like a comedy remake of
Speaker 1: one and then Army of Darkness. Sure it's connected, but
Speaker 1: it could be its own thing of like a time
Speaker 1: travel thing. Right, so we're now we're starting to tinker
Speaker 1: into that, like, oh, have you seen the last one?
Speaker 1: You know who this is? It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll it's just not what I expected from Evil Dead.
Speaker 1: So but I do think yous to I think that
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll go back to time traveling comedy,
Speaker 1: but I do think they should at some point. I
Speaker 1: think that's something that I really hope with Wrath, even
Speaker 1: if it's not a gore fest, I hope it's a
Speaker 1: little bit different because if they never go back to
Speaker 1: calm and again, I prefer my two favorites are Evil
Speaker 1: Dead and twenty thirteen. I prefer the darker stuff. But
Speaker 1: that was always the fun thing about Evil Dead was
Speaker 1: the kind of back and forth, and I just worried
Speaker 1: that they lean too much on this because to me,
Speaker 1: this feels like a like a baby Brother version of Rise.
Speaker 1: It feels like a less better version of Rise. So
Speaker 1: that's where it's like, Okay, I think now you got
Speaker 1: to take like like you said, or not the right
Speaker 1: turn you're talking about, but like right turn, Like hey,
Speaker 1: what what can we do this? You know, like what
Speaker 1: could and maybe the seventies going back? Maybe you can
Speaker 1: have some fun there.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I don't know, is the is the
Speaker 2: new one that's announced? Is it also just like here
Speaker 2: up and coming horror director? Yeah, T see, Like I
Speaker 2: don't I don't think there's much forward thinking of like
Speaker 2: what's the grand plan with this? I think it's just
Speaker 2: like Sam Rai Mey being a good guy and being like,
Speaker 2: hey take this ip. Yeah, you're a young up and comer.
Speaker 2: I saw one of your movies. I thought it was good,
Speaker 2: like take a swing at Evil Dead and just take
Speaker 2: your spin on it. And I don't. I don't think
Speaker 2: there's probably much more to it, and probably just giving
Speaker 2: it to those people who looked up for these movies
Speaker 2: when they're growing up or becoming filmmakers or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, yeah, I forgot about that, s bubs because
Speaker 1: I did watch show back. I've actually after this, I
Speaker 1: wanted to rewatch the show. I don't know we're streaming.
Speaker 1: But he says they did time travel and ash For's
Speaker 1: Evil Dead. There's always another book, Secret Spell, Retual. They
Speaker 1: can just do anything the plot needs, and I yeah,
Speaker 1: I think evil that's very comic booking that way, like oh,
Speaker 1: how does this happen? We'll have them because of this
Speaker 1: and then they move on. So but uh yeah, and
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, that's where if you want their fixed
Speaker 1: check out the TV show. It's tons of fun. Bruce
Speaker 1: Campbell just having a good time with that, and that's
Speaker 1: way more like Evil Dead two, Army of Darkness type
Speaker 1: of humor there, but anything else non spoilers. Before we
Speaker 1: crack open the spoil I.
Speaker 3: Will say right when the movie was starting, you know,
Speaker 3: like the intro scene, it was very quiet and there
Speaker 3: wasn't any music play, you know, our theater, but all
Speaker 3: I could hear from the next door was you're welcome.
Speaker 3: Like Duayne Johnson was going fucking ham singing. Maana was
Speaker 3: just loud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was popping off. And then hopefully it's all right.
Speaker 1: But at the end of this movie we got an
Speaker 1: amber alert. But at first I thought was in the movie,
Speaker 1: like the loud ringing. I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: a charid.
Speaker 2: It's happened to your cell phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's one thing. It's funny because April said
Speaker 1: this in our discord and like I don't mean this
Speaker 1: to be like an insult or offense as a director,
Speaker 1: but like, hey, if you didn't know this director's French,
Speaker 1: you'll fucking know it twenty minutes into this movie. Because
Speaker 1: I'm not like a bad thing. It just felt like
Speaker 1: there was a point where all right, we get it,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, maybe again, that's like.
Speaker 2: What you're saying I'm curious what you mean by that.
Speaker 1: Actually, like tons of just French music, French characters. The
Speaker 1: end credit song is a French pop song. Obviously our
Speaker 1: leads French. It just felt very It didn't feel like,
Speaker 1: oh it was a French director with his flair. It
Speaker 1: felt very in my face of oh, this is a
Speaker 1: French director like Evil Dead, it's not have like like
Speaker 1: and it'd be different. This movie was in France. It's
Speaker 1: not in France, you know, it's it's just in America
Speaker 1: and they're all this like random French stuff going on.
Speaker 1: All the main character's husband loves French food, like just
Speaker 1: that type of stuff where he's just like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: so hey, if we get Evil Dead, I'll to do that.
Speaker 1: I'll just have to go heavy on Canadian bacon and
Speaker 1: A's and everything like that. You know.
Speaker 2: So that all worked for me, Like I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't think too much into it, but like.
Speaker 1: I don't see negative.
Speaker 2: I just felt like I love I love the French.
Speaker 3: You know, you got the songs in there and everything
Speaker 3: and there you know all that she's speaking French like
Speaker 3: I'm just driving with it.
Speaker 2: I was eating. It's not a.
Speaker 1: Negative but I think it'd be different if it was
Speaker 1: a non French director and be like, Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: takedy on. It just felt like, oh, you got a
Speaker 1: French director and I'm gonna put a lot of French
Speaker 1: stuff in this movie, right that That's what it just
Speaker 1: felt like. It's so that's his life, man, that's his life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine. And I but that's not been evil dead,
Speaker 1: that's not really had much like Countries.
Speaker 2: Is filmed in Cologna.
Speaker 1: I look at these, I digress, but yeah, anything else,
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Speaker 1: just start at the beginning, you know, because you know
Speaker 1: that's usually krikal pats or move. But it ties right
Speaker 1: in her eyes. So we have that girl that she was.
Speaker 1: If you don't remember, all that stuff happens in the
Speaker 1: rise building. She's just going camping, she's gonna drive over.
Speaker 1: She gets taken over by you know, Ellie and all
Speaker 1: of them, and then she goes to the cabin. She's
Speaker 1: all sick. She gets hit in the face with that
Speaker 1: drone or whatever, and then bad stuff happens. So this
Speaker 1: is her where she is now, just in that body water,
Speaker 1: swimming going on.
Speaker 2: I'm living there for a good minute. It looks like
Speaker 2: that's her swamp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't get any time, you know, like specification
Speaker 1: of what's going on with her, but she's there. And
Speaker 1: we have the scene that these guys are fishing, so
Speaker 1: they just want to have some guy time. What his
Speaker 1: wife keeps calling and keeps going, don't pick it up.
Speaker 1: He's like, I gotta take it. So he walks away,
Speaker 1: and then we kind of get two things here, which
Speaker 1: again it's I always go back and forth with dead
Speaker 1: its right. Sometimes they're just like this meat sacks that
Speaker 1: really can't do anything. And then you got this dead
Speaker 1: dight who is just a fucking MS character. The fish hooks,
Speaker 1: I don't know why, the fish hooks something like fine.
Speaker 1: What happens is they have a bunch of rods there,
Speaker 1: too many, but they have a bunch of rods there.
Speaker 1: Whoever this lady is from Rye. She takes all the
Speaker 1: hooks and the twine and throws it back of the
Speaker 1: guy's fishing, grabs him by the eyes, the mouth everything
Speaker 1: like that, pulls him in. He's getting messed up, and
Speaker 1: you know, obviously he gets killed. He gets whole. Half
Speaker 1: his friend gets in a boat, pulls him out, held
Speaker 1: him for a long time before he knew that he
Speaker 1: was halfed. So I was fine with that. The next
Speaker 1: one where she throws the other guy in the water,
Speaker 1: tips the boat and she literally starts to boil the
Speaker 1: entire lake. Guys like, all right, I think we're again.
Speaker 1: I guess upset in the comment it is eel. Then
Speaker 1: they can go as hard as they want.
Speaker 2: But I think you, guys, seems like she made it
Speaker 2: rain too. Yes, rain boys, he's got storm power, she's
Speaker 2: got storms.
Speaker 1: Yes, move set essentially just a bit too far from me,
Speaker 1: which again, does that sound stupid in a franchise that
Speaker 1: has time travel? I get it, Yes it does, but
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Just like the power gauge on here,
Speaker 1: it's okay, then how can I like, how can we
Speaker 1: go from God to like, oh, a fork can take out.
Speaker 2: Because it's like herd domain and she like has built
Speaker 2: up her power here or something.
Speaker 1: Maybe how'd you feel this opening, Dylan?
Speaker 2: You know, I actually I quite enjoyed it. I think Uh,
Speaker 2: the power level thing doesn't bother me, but maybe I
Speaker 2: haven't seen these movies enough to like remember like whatever
Speaker 2: character is capable of something. But I thought it was cool.
Speaker 2: I thought it was fun. I thought the you know,
Speaker 2: the the hooks like pulling into the guy's skin absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2: That was nasty. And yeah, I thought it was kind
Speaker 2: of just fun.
Speaker 1: To me.
Speaker 2: That was like a fun, nice callback to rise, like
Speaker 2: I kind of that character specifically, but also just like
Speaker 2: the start of that movie being like a big kill
Speaker 2: at like a dock or whatever. Too. I thought it
Speaker 2: was kind of fun to go back through some of
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I thought it was just interesting the way they start
Speaker 2: with that sequence and then we cut to like, okay,
Speaker 2: here's our here's the introduction, like our actual like protagonists
Speaker 2: and characters in this movie. You get a whole sequence
Speaker 2: with them that takes like ten to fifteen minutes of intro,
Speaker 2: and then that like leads us right back to this
Speaker 2: location with that character. So I thought I thought that
Speaker 2: was kind of a fun little like intro bookend in
Speaker 2: a way. It was like not a full movie bookend,
Speaker 2: but just like for the intro specifically. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: quite enjoyed the intro to this movie. Actually, I think
Speaker 2: it was more like later on. I think it's more
Speaker 2: when we get to the house is when I was
Speaker 2: maybe less intrigued by what was going on than on out.
Speaker 2: But I think the first half an hour or whatever
Speaker 2: was was pretty pretty strong.
Speaker 1: You like the Evil Dead burn short film there, you know,
Speaker 1: like the yes, yeah, yeah, before I throw to you.
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to forget, I didn't write down
Speaker 1: I thought the title card sequence when she put them
Speaker 1: in the water and started to boil him, a bunch
Speaker 1: of fish was coming up, and then they started to
Speaker 1: zoom out. I thought they're gonna have the fish like
Speaker 1: all say the world.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'd like that. That's a bit fishy.
Speaker 1: I'd have to see it. But I thought that's what
Speaker 1: you're going with. But then we just got like Evil Dead.
Speaker 2: With That's like because that would be that would mean
Speaker 2: that that actually happened in the world.
Speaker 1: No, because in the last one, remember that this is
Speaker 1: the same character. And this is why I think it
Speaker 1: would have fit. That was the character that when she
Speaker 1: started to rise, the title card rose behind her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the title card doesn't exist in the world.
Speaker 1: You don't know that she could be rising.
Speaker 2: No, it does not. But if it was fish, that
Speaker 2: would that would be actual, and that dead nights are
Speaker 2: not that cinematic. They're not spelling out words of fish.
Speaker 1: I don't know. And I'm gonna say like, it's not
Speaker 1: like a clean, evil dead burn, but it's like the shape.
Speaker 2: Of it may make the Travis edit. I'm curious what
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: I'll try to work on that in the future. But Tay,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this opening?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely not the same level as Rise,
Speaker 3: but I think that Yeah, it was a great intro.
Speaker 2: But at the same time I thought.
Speaker 3: It was it was cheeky and cheesy enough, like in
Speaker 3: the fishing hooks and whatnot, in the eyelids and stuff. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's that's pretty gross. That's uncomfortable. That's gonna be it's
Speaker 3: gonna be painful. You know, I've tangled with fishing line before.
Speaker 3: I'm a fisherman, so it's it's not something you want
Speaker 3: to mack around with, so.
Speaker 2: Fisherman.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, it's a k f one statement. I've
Speaker 1: never heard you talk about you fishing at all.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 3: I'll show you a whole bunch of pictures of me
Speaker 3: with the salmon. Oh my gosh, I got a whole
Speaker 3: archive of back in a day Vancouver Island. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a fisherman's fisherman's land.
Speaker 2: But I think that.
Speaker 3: Because you were talking about how did you guys word
Speaker 3: that just the the Deadite and just kind of like
Speaker 3: the power level and whatnot of them, And so I
Speaker 3: was trying to look into like the difference between you
Speaker 3: have the Candarian demon versus Deadite, and so the demon
Speaker 3: is that athro corporal entity that kind of moves around
Speaker 3: like that first person view and foams around or whatever,
Speaker 3: and then the dead eighte is that vessel that it possesses.
Speaker 3: But when I was trying to backtrack, because if we're
Speaker 3: dealing with this girl here from the apartment, so she
Speaker 3: is you have that mara I think it was called
Speaker 3: the Marauder from Evil Dead Rise, and that was that
Speaker 3: like combine thing, that mutan demon thing or whatever that
Speaker 3: was in the basement. So but I don't think that's
Speaker 3: the thing that infected the girl when she left the
Speaker 3: apartment building. So, but whatever was there, and that's where
Speaker 3: because you highlighted this in the the the non spoiler
Speaker 3: portion where there was no dead eight or specific.
Speaker 2: I guess what the fuck? You gotta go check on that, Taylor,
Speaker 2: the fire alarm. I'm just gonna mute fire alarm.
Speaker 1: You you would take a look into that. I like
Speaker 1: that he went up, you himself would not answer, just looked.
Speaker 1: Didn't even get up either.
Speaker 2: He just he still hasn't gone up for that.
Speaker 1: He still hasn't gone up.
Speaker 2: Okay, this so okay, this is fucked. I was saying
Speaker 2: this rapter nine. Okay.
Speaker 3: Two nights ago, we're sleeping and at four am, our
Speaker 3: door swings wide open and slams, and we both woke
Speaker 3: up or like, are you there, Satine? And Satina wasn't there?
Speaker 3: The door has never done that, We have no We
Speaker 3: walked around, we checked the whole place and we could
Speaker 3: not figure out what it was. And the next night,
Speaker 3: same time, the fire alarm triggers and we're like, what
Speaker 3: the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: So now and it's hardline, it's not batteries, so it's
Speaker 3: not going to be going like you know, it does
Speaker 3: that if the battery is getting little, but it's hardwired
Speaker 3: into a power source. But now it's just it popped
Speaker 3: on there and then it stopped.
Speaker 2: So it's it's weird just turned off on its own.
Speaker 2: It just turned off on.
Speaker 3: Its own because Madison's sleeping on the couch. But it's
Speaker 3: weird because it's been backed by Setne saying that something's
Speaker 3: been tapping on her window.
Speaker 2: And there's something going on. So but the cat, what
Speaker 2: is happening? The cats haven't been acting up. And fine,
Speaker 2: when you say your door like your bedroom door, like
Speaker 2: your front door of your house, we were not the
Speaker 2: front door of the house, we'ld be fucking out of here. No,
Speaker 2: it was our bedroom door. So you have like a
Speaker 2: window open, like it must be some draft. Technical windows
Speaker 2: were closed.
Speaker 3: I thought it would be a draft. I walked down
Speaker 3: the hallway, but there was the fan that is against
Speaker 3: the wall over here. It's not powerful.
Speaker 2: How loud it close, like it's slammed. It's slammed.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was loud. That is terrifying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's never never had it been like
Speaker 3: before ever Like, So we're we're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2: We're trying to break down the facts and figure this
Speaker 2: ship out. No doubt, that's horrible, some weird ship. But
Speaker 2: that's gonna keep me up that's gonna keep me up
Speaker 2: more than this whole fucking movie.
Speaker 1: Just the thought of the same person tapping on the
Speaker 1: teens windows gonna be tapping on Dylan's window later on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm gonna be all live stream. I would
Speaker 2: have a heart attack that happened. But where was I
Speaker 2: going with that?
Speaker 3: So the there's no standalone signature dead eyed as you
Speaker 3: guys were alluding to. That really kind of takes the
Speaker 3: cake here as being the main cheese. But for me,
Speaker 3: and this kind of goes back to the beginning here
Speaker 3: you have this this the Candarian demon is I'm gonna
Speaker 3: keep referring to here that infects and makes up the
Speaker 3: dead Dights, But the Candaren demon that is triggered It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm sensing the dagger being unwrapped here at the start
Speaker 3: of the movie, So that demon is the same. Is
Speaker 3: just that demon overall is kind of possessing all the
Speaker 3: dead dits here. And so for me, when I was
Speaker 3: watching this, I took it as this demon was the
Speaker 3: thing that we're dealing with. Yes, you get the dead
Speaker 3: Heights that are popping up, the mom and the girlfriend
Speaker 3: and the dad, all that kind of stuff, But to me,
Speaker 3: they were all one and the same. It didn't feel
Speaker 3: like they were all individualized. It felt like they were
Speaker 3: all the same demon, the same candarian demon that was
Speaker 3: operating here. But I'm probably in a minority with that.
Speaker 2: I do feel like they had They all had a
Speaker 2: similar personality like once they were possessed, and a similar
Speaker 2: cadence to them. So I could I could see that
Speaker 2: being the case. M h. I couldn't give you a
Speaker 2: lower reason for why that happens, but I think that
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could be right. And none of them felt
Speaker 1: like two dead dys So I see what you mean there,
Speaker 1: con temptation. I think, yeah, so that doesn't help me
Speaker 1: with the water boiling. But I like your theory, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's.
Speaker 2: That's something else that's powerful.
Speaker 1: You know. Why was it Ellie doing that last week?
Speaker 1: She just began through that house easy, she just boil
Speaker 1: like the house. But yeah, so we in this whole
Speaker 1: roundabout way the lady from Rye she gets hit by
Speaker 1: a car. As Dylan said, we picked back up, you know,
Speaker 1: earlier in the film. But something we didn't see between
Speaker 1: Alice and her boyfriend. I will get IMDb to get
Speaker 1: all these names out uh but uh start some of
Speaker 1: those clubs scene. I don't know, it just wasn't it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was wasn't working for me.
Speaker 2: Way too rushed.
Speaker 1: I thought it was almost way too long, to be honest, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just like something felt off. I
Speaker 1: think this was like a chemistry thing with almost all
Speaker 1: four of them, but definitely like the Alice and the boyfriend,
Speaker 1: Like I know, he wasn't in the movie much so
Speaker 1: you probably didn't need to have that like perfect but
Speaker 1: something here, and I feel like we didn't. We were
Speaker 1: missing on cues with these certain things of the I
Speaker 1: didn't know who's was the brother, who was the sister,
Speaker 1: who was date? Like it was strange, you know, we're
Speaker 1: talking about French hand jobs again, they know more French stuff.
Speaker 2: He gets, she like accident, she like kisses him. And
Speaker 2: that's like some point of dramas that I thought was
Speaker 2: gonna come back later in the movie, but it doesn't,
Speaker 2: which is weird.
Speaker 1: Because even when the boy the let me get dined
Speaker 1: to be so don't mess up these names, when the
Speaker 1: girl turns into the dead ord and she's I'll just
Speaker 1: say she's possessed.
Speaker 2: Later on the one that he Joseph and Tina are
Speaker 2: like that couple.
Speaker 1: So Tina later on when she's on the roof and
Speaker 1: she lands on Alice and she's like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let you have all the men like you thought. I
Speaker 1: thought was implied. Okay, they are maybe having an affair
Speaker 1: or cheating, but like you said, we never got back
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: We never think she's just French with the reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was just a mistake, like they just
Speaker 1: like the accident bumped and yeah, he gets him this
Speaker 1: uh this thousand dollar pen, like I get it. But
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, help help to write your book. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I laptop my work too, you know. But and then
Speaker 1: she just gets some like a picture and oh, I
Speaker 1: said our present ones I said, my present was from both.
Speaker 1: It's just like weird like relationship fight and stuff. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, they get in an argument. He drives drunk,
Speaker 1: so they just make it seem like he drove drunk,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he did hit the day. I'll give him that.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: Like the scene when the dates through the window he's
Speaker 1: trying to call the cops and the head rolls off
Speaker 1: and it's starting to talk and we've been looking for
Speaker 1: you and all that type of stuff, and we start
Speaker 1: to set up this, uh you know this the the
Speaker 1: dead Dights want, you know, this family. You though they
Speaker 1: might not be dead ights, Tim's just gonna be calling
Speaker 1: that they want something to do with this family. So
Speaker 1: but yeah, not all of this club scene. And they're
Speaker 1: talking really quiet too for such a loud club, I
Speaker 1: thought too.
Speaker 2: So there was definitely a few times I could not
Speaker 2: understand what the dialogue was. Specifically, it was like a
Speaker 2: dead dight talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vincent Maria, we got that. The smash cut to
Speaker 1: the girl just twerking like it's just a full screen
Speaker 1: of the ass I was and I'm.
Speaker 2: Not saying compilation and grinding and all that, but there's.
Speaker 1: A lot of pop pop music in this movie. And
Speaker 1: you know what, as a pop supporter, didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Didn't like, I didn't like this an evil day going on?
Speaker 3: You know what's happening weird because when you get later
Speaker 3: onto like the dinner scene with the family, the mom
Speaker 3: is a dressing it like, oh, it's the restaurant, and
Speaker 3: and the restaurant for me.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Like you see the flashback scenes of when she actually
Speaker 3: gets like she gets the hot oil spilled all over
Speaker 3: her in the burns from her from her husband, and
Speaker 3: it's it's a kitchen, right, and she does the accounting
Speaker 3: as we learned for the restaurant. But it's not a restaurant,
Speaker 3: it's a nightclub, so there's a little consistency there both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, both you can order food at the nightclub.
Speaker 1: And some some you can't, Like that's a very choice,
Speaker 1: but no I did that, like, oh you got a
Speaker 1: care like it's sick. I guess just the accounting, Like
Speaker 1: I had nothing nothing to do with that going on there,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah. And then we get a funeral scene.
Speaker 1: There's some humor here, the construction and whatnot, and we
Speaker 1: meet the family and yeah, again this is weird for me,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't get that for the dad. I get
Speaker 1: what they're going for, this angle of you know, the
Speaker 1: better son, but like that could just be the dead
Speaker 1: eights speaking the grandma. Like I never chuckled at the
Speaker 1: jokes they are doing here, but they weren't offensive. I
Speaker 1: liked them, Like, okay, so.
Speaker 2: Well you chuckled at the grandma chuckle? Uh what was
Speaker 2: it there was?
Speaker 1: I believe, I'll say a chuckle, But I don't mean
Speaker 1: like I'm slapping the knee like dying with everything here.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the anchor on this family, the fucking mom character.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Writing wise, what a disaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was super weak for sure.
Speaker 1: All over as far as like we don't get enough
Speaker 1: of her relationship with Alice again, talk about things are
Speaker 1: going too long, the makeout scene with her dead like
Speaker 1: dead her husband, just like I get they're trying to
Speaker 1: gross you up. It's the point like okay, just like god,
Speaker 1: like we've been doing this for five seconds, I'm not
Speaker 1: there anymore.
Speaker 2: You haven't kissed me like that in so long.
Speaker 1: And she'd go back and forth, she would go down there,
Speaker 1: she's with the dadites.
Speaker 2: I thought I'm gonna start having sex. I thought they're
Speaker 2: gonna start having sex. I really did.
Speaker 1: That's next.
Speaker 2: That's great. Quickly going back to the funeral, just six's
Speaker 2: question and maybe everyone knows this and I just don't.
Speaker 2: When you cremate a body, do you typically cremate them
Speaker 2: inside of a coffin. That's my knowledge, not unless that
Speaker 2: seems wasteful and jury the coffin, But you would cremate
Speaker 2: the remains, right, But this guy was he was loading
Speaker 2: that whole coffin in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And they also would not as far as
Speaker 1: I know, they would not unload the body while the
Speaker 1: family was still there. They would wait for them to
Speaker 1: go or leave the room and then move there, like
Speaker 1: because they do the scene where he's like trying to
Speaker 1: lift the casket but it's not working and they're trying
Speaker 1: to go for they would for a lot of calming
Speaker 1: in here with the construction going on and the speech
Speaker 1: is there, and this is where stuff like again, nothing
Speaker 1: was like terrible, but I was not laughing at any
Speaker 1: of this stuff. Really.
Speaker 2: It was more like it was like, you know, it
Speaker 2: was a cringe cringe humor.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yes, the coffin is burned right along with the
Speaker 3: body during the cremation process. Once the coffins stealed the
Speaker 3: funeral home, it's not reopened today.
Speaker 2: Interesting. That seems like a tremendous The creeditorium strictly requires
Speaker 2: a combustible container like wood, wicker, cardboard for safety and dignity.
Speaker 1: Dignity. I'm dead, I don't know, so wait a minute, like,
Speaker 1: so you can have dignity for dead. I'm dead, I'm dead,
Speaker 1: I'm gone. You know, it's fine.
Speaker 3: The chamber temperatures reach seven hundred and sixty degree celsius
Speaker 3: to thirteen hundred degree celsia, So the coffin is entirely consumed.
Speaker 2: So are the coffins. Maybe they're constructed in a way
Speaker 2: such that it like enhances the burning experience.
Speaker 3: Maybe you get like a cedar or something like that,
Speaker 3: so you get them a whiff, you know, a nice
Speaker 3: sentch or something that.
Speaker 2: Is kind of nice in a way. It's like a nature.
Speaker 2: But then I guess the remains that anyone would have
Speaker 2: and an urn, it's like mostly coffin in there. It's
Speaker 2: all wood.
Speaker 1: That's so you're saying, when I here cream, when I die,
Speaker 1: they have to put me in a box. I can't.
Speaker 2: You could do well, like I said, wood, wicker or cardboard.
Speaker 1: I gotta be in.
Speaker 2: Go down like solid.
Speaker 1: Some juices, Yeah, some juices flowing into that cardboard.
Speaker 2: But that's on, go box, chuck them in.
Speaker 1: Actually I would love not that my family set up
Speaker 1: for it, but I would love to go qua gon
Speaker 1: Gin style, just like everyone like puts me around and
Speaker 1: then you burn me.
Speaker 2: Everyone has to stand there. I respect that.
Speaker 1: I respect that, even though I've always said all my
Speaker 1: funeral will be fun. I don't want to be mop
Speaker 1: I want like jokes made my spend. Yeah, maybe not
Speaker 1: that part may that's that's the day.
Speaker 2: But like the cedar coffin kind of encapsulates, it cooks
Speaker 2: you in there. Yeah, I need you guys to put
Speaker 2: me on the boat and send me out and then
Speaker 2: shoot the fire arrow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, I'll start working on it.
Speaker 2: I was thinking. I was thinking the boat from the
Speaker 2: opening of this movie. I'm like, you want to be
Speaker 2: on that boat. I'm not going on that boat with
Speaker 2: the fish and everything.
Speaker 1: No, the hot water. Oh yeah, but then we got
Speaker 1: more coming here. The guy is putting in music and
Speaker 1: he's like dance into the fire and stuff, and then
Speaker 1: the dad knocks, Oh, I gotta gotta say goodbye to
Speaker 1: my son. Okay, you only have five minutes. He's knock
Speaker 1: and then I guess the cremation guy gets killed off screen,
Speaker 1: and other than the end credit, we never come back
Speaker 1: to this. There's just like a full of murder takes
Speaker 1: place and no one it's not even like, oh he
Speaker 1: gets killed at like Hitman forty seven styles. Secretly, yeah,
Speaker 1: ashes are being or earns are being broken. There's blood,
Speaker 1: it's super loud, and then we kind of got similar
Speaker 1: to what we got and rise where rise, Like if
Speaker 1: you take damage from the possessed one, that's when you
Speaker 1: started to turn right. Similar here. I guess I don't
Speaker 1: think the dad got damaged, but I guess he got
Speaker 1: spoken to with then he.
Speaker 3: Got burned, right because this guy is right with the
Speaker 3: Sun's hand came out and like infected him.
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, now he's he's tapped and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Like at this point, if your loved one is about
Speaker 1: to be put in the crematory, it's not like back
Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds when they rung a bellt like
Speaker 1: I'm still lively. It's like, son, you in this it's still.
Speaker 3: It's still a thing like people people have woken up
Speaker 3: just before being put in the in the flames.
Speaker 2: So I don't doubt that at all.
Speaker 1: Find me, find me the most recent I've heard of that,
Speaker 1: for sure, I've heard that. That's okay, no, actually stop no,
Speaker 1: stop stop stop. He was burned to a fucking crisp,
Speaker 1: remember he like.
Speaker 2: You know you're grieving, you you know that sometimes people
Speaker 2: can survive.
Speaker 1: No, his his car explodes, he goes up in the smitherys.
Speaker 2: I got you, I Got you.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: November twenty twenty five, temple workers in Thailand heard knocking
Speaker 3: from a coffin moments before cremation. They opened it to
Speaker 3: find a sixty five year old bedridden woman alive. Her brother,
Speaker 3: who believed she had passed away two days prior, had
Speaker 3: taken her to the Wat Rat Prak Kong Tam for cremation.
Speaker 1: Again, this body was fully burned. They're not.
Speaker 2: It was burned, but it was burned. It was only
Speaker 2: burned such that it was still able to be removed
Speaker 2: and put into a coffin without it like being melted
Speaker 2: to the car or just completely blown up. He was
Speaker 2: only worse too, and burnt like burn wise, I really
Speaker 2: don't because when he's walking around, he's like got half
Speaker 2: a ribcage. Just let's imagine on fire. You know, he's
Speaker 2: he's cooked.
Speaker 1: He literally cooked.
Speaker 2: But to be fair, had had the dad seen that
Speaker 2: to that point?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Probably right, None of those body of the family had
Speaker 2: seen what his body.
Speaker 1: If you said, if if if the police came and said, like, hey,
Speaker 1: your friend Dylan died in the car explosion, I don't
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a case where Dylan might knock
Speaker 1: on the coffin right before, but then if.
Speaker 2: But then, if Dylan shows up in a coffin, you'd
Speaker 2: be like, well, I guess there's enough of Dylan's body that,
Speaker 2: like there's a body still. I guess, I guess a
Speaker 2: lot of cremation logistics.
Speaker 1: This is our face hangout for the movie is the
Speaker 1: cremation part.
Speaker 2: So I will, I'll just jump us ahead, jumps us around.
Speaker 2: But I think for me, the highlight dead eight if
Speaker 2: you will, is definitely Edgar the Father. I think he
Speaker 2: I mean, he probably gets the most because he's like
Speaker 2: the main one, like for the first like half an
Speaker 2: hour before everyone else gets infected as well. But I
Speaker 2: liked his presence. I thought he did a pretty good job.
Speaker 2: I thought he could be scary. I just like the
Speaker 2: way that they kept, you know, changing the look like
Speaker 2: his He looked just more and more disheveled as time
Speaker 2: went on, and like his face was like molding. It
Speaker 2: seemed like, at certain times like he scared me more
Speaker 2: than a couple of the other ones who weren't necessarily
Speaker 2: as like I was never really scared of the mom.
Speaker 2: I was never really scared of like the Joseph the
Speaker 2: son who no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't even one for too long. Even he
Speaker 1: was just like a couple of couple, not.
Speaker 2: Even really scared of Grandma really, but like you know,
Speaker 2: the dad, he was able to get the fear going
Speaker 2: on because of his intense presence, So I'll give him that.
Speaker 2: I think he was the highlight for me of the
Speaker 2: of the evil team and just the self inflicting damage too.
Speaker 2: When he's standing there and just.
Speaker 3: Like blows his head three times, that's kind of just
Speaker 3: to create fear and he just stands out there, which
Speaker 3: again with his dog Max. I can't remember the last
Speaker 3: time i've I know it's a thing. I know it's existed,
Speaker 3: but I can't pinpoint exactly. But the demon infecting animals
Speaker 3: and like him standing there with his dead eyed dog,
Speaker 3: that was It's just a crazy scary kind of combo
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 1: It's a call Doutey's skin right there, you know it
Speaker 1: is that's skin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: There's been other animals that have been Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: even the show, it's happened like Army.
Speaker 2: Of Darkness had like some horses or something. I don't like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on the for the deads. I was
Speaker 1: on the Tina bandwagon. I like my dead ight it's
Speaker 1: a little more playful and her doing some of the
Speaker 1: sexy stuff. I think they could have went more with it,
Speaker 1: but I very much.
Speaker 2: Enjoyed cone with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like drink the candle though, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like was she was licking Gramma's dentures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they could have went harder on that. Like
Speaker 1: I got what it was. They affected the grandma, but
Speaker 1: when she put the danders back in, it was like
Speaker 1: completely clean. When she pulled out her mother, there's like
Speaker 1: a string of blood. I think they should have for effect,
Speaker 1: Like those dentures should have been just drippen in ash
Speaker 1: and blood, and you put that in there because it's
Speaker 1: of course it's a grosser moment, but I didn't like
Speaker 1: gross out, gross me up. But no, My favorite was
Speaker 1: the dishwasher because not only does he take the plunge
Speaker 1: under the knives, standing up like straddles him and talks
Speaker 1: about being his first time and all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: I like when dead heightes are playful and they're kind
Speaker 1: of like little asshole. So that's what I appreciated. But
Speaker 1: then she got taken out. She got to smash in
Speaker 1: the head and that's where again, like even the Joseph thing.
Speaker 1: Later on, Edgar brings him back and like find out
Speaker 1: where his dagger is. He just he shoves the face
Speaker 1: and the broken face that's where one of these things, like, eh,
Speaker 1: I think this is gore for the sick of gore,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's like, okay, he's shoving his face
Speaker 1: into this broken skull. It just didn't like it didn't
Speaker 1: work for me to win. But it's like okay, And
Speaker 1: that's another storyline too for me, is the Joseph is
Speaker 1: a coward storyline? Like what were we what were we
Speaker 1: doing with that?
Speaker 2: I didn't know he couldn't kill his dad, but he
Speaker 2: could kill his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: But what have the story because that at the end
Speaker 1: of the movie, it's not like him and Alice are
Speaker 1: working together the way I thought. And even though I'm
Speaker 1: still mixed on it, you look at something like Barbarian right,
Speaker 1: just as long as characters, He's made out to be
Speaker 1: a coward. And then he meets our protagon this he
Speaker 1: tries to save her and then in the end, when
Speaker 1: the Mama comes up, you know, spoils that movie. He
Speaker 1: decides to be a coward again and tries to sacrifice her. Right,
Speaker 1: So that plays in the third act that movie. So
Speaker 1: that makes sense. How does Joseph be in a cow
Speaker 1: or scared?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna like survive in the end and we're
Speaker 2: gonna go on some full journey and then that doesn't
Speaker 2: end up happening, or.
Speaker 1: Even him sacrifice himself for Alice to like, oh, he'll
Speaker 1: full like full, he has been a cow that up
Speaker 1: to this, Like I'll get.
Speaker 2: The knife and throw it to you and have something
Speaker 2: heroic moment like that. No, No, he's just he doesn't
Speaker 2: even tell her where it is. No, he just says
Speaker 2: go find it.
Speaker 1: And she just kills him and he falls because I
Speaker 1: was in and again too, It's weird. It's like they
Speaker 1: didn't want to go full on because horror movies do
Speaker 1: this all the time, right, let's as stash the asshole
Speaker 1: and do some fun asshole stuff with him. When his
Speaker 1: dad is just beating up Tina and he's about to
Speaker 1: kill her and you just in the bag, which I
Speaker 1: like the shot you just see in the back he's
Speaker 1: like crawling out of that car.
Speaker 2: He shoots out the fucking skylight.
Speaker 1: He's out of there. He's out of there and he's
Speaker 1: like watching his girlfriend get him planted by the car seat.
Speaker 1: But that's where it's like, Okay, we're gonna get this
Speaker 1: movie now where he's gonna constantly turn on his mom,
Speaker 1: turn on hous like he's gonna be selfish. And I
Speaker 1: thought too, they were gonna play into that because they
Speaker 1: did this weird moment where he when he kills Tina,
Speaker 1: he has something big and he is a dishwasher. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: the dishwasher. Right. He's doing that over and over and
Speaker 1: it encapsulates crushes her skull. And then at that moment
Speaker 1: they have Alice have a flashback to win will was
Speaker 1: the name right of the bad boyfriend that won the
Speaker 1: past right or will yeah? Yeah uh. She has a
Speaker 1: flashback to their argument when he got the oil on her.
Speaker 1: So I thought they're trying to go with, Oh, Joseph's
Speaker 1: also a piece of prick. He's just like a nicer
Speaker 1: version of that, because I thought it was her realizing like,
Speaker 1: even though it's a dead he's like going really hard
Speaker 1: on killing this girl. And she even said like, oh,
Speaker 1: you killed me so easy, but not your dad. But no.
Speaker 1: Then the next thing they're just talking and making a
Speaker 1: plan and not the game without either. So I just
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't mind that Joseph actor.
Speaker 1: Also he's got a he got a raw deal and
Speaker 1: Daredevil that's muse if you don't remember. Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: in Wednesday. So the things that I've liked him in,
Speaker 1: I even this, I don't think he's bad in here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know what was going on with
Speaker 1: Joseph's character. I don't know what they're trying to tell
Speaker 1: me with that one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know if I can blame the
Speaker 2: acting or writing on that one. Probably a little bit
Speaker 2: of both, but probably mostly mostly the writing. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that was definitely a extremely underwhelming character for me. It
Speaker 2: just doesn't really make sense in the end. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Tina does have some good moments,
Speaker 2: some good dead eye moments, for sure. She's certainly number
Speaker 2: two for me behind every Like even when she shows
Speaker 2: up back at the house and then like pushes the
Speaker 2: car the car like pillow thing like back out through
Speaker 2: her head. Yeah, that moment's really great. And yeah, just
Speaker 2: like some of it, she's like a bit more whimsical,
Speaker 2: which I think you make a good point there of
Speaker 2: like sometimes that is what these dead ights are all about,
Speaker 2: which she's like lining the house with gasoline and talking
Speaker 2: about like commentary on like some of the images and
Speaker 2: the pictures and things like that. So yeah, she's a
Speaker 2: she's a. I thought she was gonna come back even
Speaker 2: though her head was bashed, and I thought she was
Speaker 2: gonn to have like one last moment where then she
Speaker 2: would get like stabbed by the knife. I thought everyone
Speaker 2: was gonna get stabed by the knife and that's how
Speaker 2: they would die for good, which obviously they the grandma
Speaker 2: at least was able to crawl away from that, and
Speaker 2: maybe the other ones are too because they didn't get
Speaker 2: hit with the knife specifically. I don't know. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: I got I got two things. First question, are you
Speaker 2: guys knives up in a dishwasher households? Because I'm not.
Speaker 2: And it's like, how are you supposed to grab the
Speaker 2: knife out after it's clean? Like that's just fucked very easily.
Speaker 1: But I don't think about it. I just throw stuff
Speaker 1: in the dishwasher.
Speaker 2: I would say, it's not that bad knives up. Well,
Speaker 2: if it's a butter knife, Ah, yeah, butterknife.
Speaker 1: I agree, But even stay knife. There's a whole back
Speaker 1: of like smooth. You just that's what I do. You
Speaker 1: just grabbed that way.
Speaker 2: Okay. I feel like I have the perception that they
Speaker 2: get cleaner if they're if they're sharp up, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's true at all. So I believe
Speaker 2: that's true, but I don't know. Just those blades in my.
Speaker 1: Blades, ma'am. I don't know if this is gonna be
Speaker 1: similar to Alien Romulus, because I feel like that had
Speaker 1: that pushback. How do you guys feel about we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Dead? How do you feel about William's form
Speaker 1: of the He's burned up, He's like our final boss.
Speaker 2: Didn't like. I hated that so much. To me, that
Speaker 2: was so unevil deadlight on how the CGI looked really bad.
Speaker 2: It looked so goofy. It looked like some corny like
Speaker 2: sci fi series, not Evil Dead.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: So I back that and also CGI dog like. I
Speaker 2: would have probably preferred without dog because I think some
Speaker 2: of that just didn't look great. But in particular I
Speaker 2: like and I was also ready for the movie to end.
Speaker 2: At that point, I was like, okay, cool, we had
Speaker 2: our final moment. Maybe it wasn't the most climbact was
Speaker 2: good enough, and then we have like this other like
Speaker 2: ten to fifty minute sequence, which you know was fine
Speaker 2: at the construction site or whatever. But uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: really didn't like that look at all. That was a real,
Speaker 2: real disappointment for me at the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor, you also nailed it. The voice was very Bekna,
Speaker 1: very stranger thing sort of thing today. Were you positive
Speaker 1: on this at all?
Speaker 3: Not really, but I get it like Evil Did twenty
Speaker 3: thirteen had that big boss at the end, right, and
Speaker 3: then Rise has the Marauders. So I guess the gimmick
Speaker 3: now is Evil Dead movies just have to have that
Speaker 3: big boss centric character at the end.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like it's funny we did the
Speaker 1: retro this year we're doing for the movies and then
Speaker 1: me and dal and top about the games. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's very like Resident Evil type where there's just
Speaker 1: certain things where you're like, ah, he doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: Resident Evil. And that's where I'm in your guys' camp.
Speaker 1: Like I I really did not like Will's form and
Speaker 1: like the whole cause, like I think I would wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind if they were if let's say they get to
Speaker 1: another Evil Dead a couple movies or they do a
Speaker 1: big crossover and it's like, oh, we're fighting like the
Speaker 1: literal devil something that that's like, okay, I guess he's
Speaker 1: been like a final boss, but it just to be
Speaker 1: some like random abusive, drunk guy and he gets to
Speaker 1: be like this like devil former. He has like firepowers
Speaker 1: and all the stuff. I don't know I needed. I
Speaker 1: need more of why this guy would be.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 1: And again too, there's at one point where he's looking
Speaker 1: for Alice and he just takes her. I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: she's done and he just throws her. It's like, what
Speaker 1: do you like? Like you're like a fire guy, like
Speaker 1: you can't just burn? Like it felt very uh plot
Speaker 1: armory that whole third act for Alice and her getting
Speaker 1: around in coast and.
Speaker 3: So and how many times you gonna say like where's
Speaker 3: the dagger? And you know, she throws the fake one
Speaker 3: and they asked the hot and he's looking for it.
Speaker 3: I thought that was a little chesy for it.
Speaker 1: And it's like, what's that supposed to really do? Because
Speaker 1: like he's already he really hot, so it's not gonna
Speaker 1: like hurt him or anything, right.
Speaker 3: Like, but it was just distract him so that she
Speaker 3: gets right, I guess, get the drill thing, which the
Speaker 3: whole construction scene at the start, It was just it
Speaker 3: was a major foreshadow because I'm looking at this and
Speaker 3: how they're emphasizing the main like Tea's just staring at.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 2: What do you call it? Like a pile driver? I
Speaker 2: think it's a pile driver? This guy just using it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well, clearly this is gonna come back
Speaker 3: full circle, which it did because you think that she's
Speaker 3: gonna grab the chainsaw to use on on fire guy,
Speaker 3: but no, it's the pile driver comes down and she
Speaker 3: just drills.
Speaker 1: But no, she also uses the other thing to or
Speaker 1: is about the pile driver that that she.
Speaker 2: Like a jackhammer? I don't know, jack camer not the
Speaker 2: pile driver. That's a wrestling move, isn't that. And then
Speaker 2: she has like a weed whacker like earlier moves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we yeah. There's just so many times that
Speaker 1: frustrating this movie with the character would have a weapon
Speaker 1: and then it's gone, Like at one point she has
Speaker 1: the dagger and she I'm gonna go over because I
Speaker 1: have multiple complaints, but she has a dagger. She kills Joseph.
Speaker 1: He's gone, and then the mother she pops up fun
Speaker 1: jump scare. She's looking down, jumps up, so she starts
Speaker 1: to climb in. Instead of like, okay, dagger again, she
Speaker 1: like holst is the dagger. She takes the whole weed whacker.
Speaker 1: She's climbing through the chimney to get to the other chimney.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing, Like, well, you have
Speaker 1: like the golden gun, you have like whatever, And then
Speaker 1: of course she gets one step up the dagger fucking
Speaker 1: like you have that, Like you have that dagger your
Speaker 1: fucking butt cheeks, you don't leave it? Like that's where
Speaker 1: that whole thing. And then the construction site there was
Speaker 1: just too many, Like we really want to do a
Speaker 1: set piece where the dad gets his head cut off
Speaker 1: in the chimney, so we got to just have her
Speaker 1: do x Y and Z. It just didn't feel natural.
Speaker 1: Even at one point when they were fighting and they
Speaker 1: had her face up and this happened like MIT's mints Ago.
Speaker 1: She just looks down the ground and the pen's randomly there,
Speaker 1: so oh well I got the pen and then like
Speaker 1: uses that, which that to me was I think that
Speaker 1: was actually the most brutal one was the pen in
Speaker 1: the ear.
Speaker 2: That was the hardest thing for me to watch.
Speaker 1: Yea, the sound effects too. They used like that idea
Speaker 1: like yeah, you hearing stuff or like you got water
Speaker 1: in your ears. But that's great, But then you have
Speaker 1: that scene where like, oh, you know whatever, Will's mom
Speaker 1: like chainsaw his face and she goes, sorry, Alice, I
Speaker 1: gotta do this. She gets interrupted, al saves her, and
Speaker 1: then the second staves are like two minutes later she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm a dad. I it's just that mother kid bug
Speaker 1: me again, like the mother.
Speaker 2: I think it was the same similar situation like the Dad,
Speaker 2: where it was just that long on set deadite thing
Speaker 2: where it just took a while to kind of like
Speaker 2: seep in her because it was the same like the
Speaker 2: dad got burned on the arm and you could see
Speaker 2: the one eye get infected and it took a while
Speaker 2: from to turn, and the same thing here when they
Speaker 2: were macing, the one eye on her face turned and
Speaker 2: it took a while for her to actually like transition
Speaker 2: into a deadite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just mean some of the decisions, like I
Speaker 1: felt like the and I get it she's a mother grieving,
Speaker 1: But I think we need some better written scenes of
Speaker 1: her even as a human. I wasn't ing.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not justifying her because I was gonna
Speaker 3: say boomers, but that's not very fair because it's just
Speaker 3: she was just pissing me off every step of the way,
Speaker 3: every decision she was doing. When she was gonna listen
Speaker 3: to Grandma and turn that chainsaw, and I was getting
Speaker 3: fucking pissed.
Speaker 2: But it again, the main character here.
Speaker 3: What irked me was she's walking, She's got the fucking weapon,
Speaker 3: She's got it gassed up, ready to go, it's turned on.
Speaker 2: She puts it down. Yeah, picks up the picture frame.
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Dad? Yeah, it was so stupid. Yeahed
Speaker 2: me so much. I think that's like I appreciate the
Speaker 2: idea of like, Okay, what's like a chainsaw, but isn't
Speaker 2: a chainsaw? We'll do something fresh and new here. Then
Speaker 2: it's like, there's a reason movies like this use a
Speaker 2: chainsaw instead of a weed whacker, because it's just a
Speaker 2: much more cinematic weapon. It's less awkward and clunky. It's
Speaker 2: not some big long stick. So yeah, I think the
Speaker 2: weed whacker was just a bit too uh clunky for
Speaker 2: my liking, and then I think it was a little
Speaker 2: on the nose when they had that moment of the
Speaker 2: construction site when she's like pulling on some random string
Speaker 2: and there's like two things attached to it, and one's
Speaker 2: a chainsaw, one's the jackhammer, and she goes with the
Speaker 2: I like that she picks the new one. I guess
Speaker 2: I don't know if she really picked it, just kind
Speaker 2: of that's what fell to her. Uh, But yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: trying a bit too hard to do the same but
Speaker 2: be something new, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think for me my issue is now we
Speaker 1: had obviously, yes, ash chainsaw, he uses it, he gets
Speaker 1: as a hand, we get it right. In twenty thirteen
Speaker 1: they do that and me it gains and that movie
Speaker 1: ends with that like dead eight version of herself right
Speaker 1: when it's like the evil version that's blood raining and
Speaker 1: amazing shot, right when she has the chainsaw on the
Speaker 1: head and it's going and there's blood everywhere. And then
Speaker 1: we get the same thing and Rise where I can't
Speaker 1: remember there's Ellie and I can't remember her sister, which
Speaker 1: was the main character who was pregnant at the time,
Speaker 1: but samely happens with her where it's okay, the big
Speaker 1: things formed. Then okay, chainsaw out the head and they
Speaker 1: throw them in the big like weed whack not weed
Speaker 1: whack or what is the like a tree when you
Speaker 1: put things through u witchper Yeah, and then that goes everywhere.
Speaker 1: And even though it's on a chainsaw, it's the same
Speaker 1: thing with the jackcamera. It's you have a character and
Speaker 1: they're gonna oh and blood, and especially this time, it's like,
Speaker 1: this guy's burnt to a crisp. Why is he shooting
Speaker 1: out blood everywhere? Just for me? Like thematically it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. But this is now Like I was fine
Speaker 1: then in twenty thirteen, because it's like, oh, we haven't
Speaker 1: done a Evil Dead movie since the early nineties, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna do these tributes. Now. It's like we've had
Speaker 1: three movies in the row with the third act having
Speaker 1: the hero have a some sort of electric automate or
Speaker 1: object just cuts through the characters and when they get
Speaker 1: covered in blood, I'm really, I'm I'm doone. I'm over.
Speaker 1: It's not you know, twenty thirteen except rise, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: been out of ten years, three years, al right, I've
Speaker 1: had my film. No more, like that's a new way,
Speaker 1: even if it's a change, So I just do it
Speaker 1: in a different way, right, just not no more of
Speaker 1: the character. The villains on their knees and they're just
Speaker 1: getting sawed to pieces. I just like at this point
Speaker 1: it just kind of like rinse and repeat. That's where
Speaker 1: it feels like that kind of like superhero stuff. Of all, right,
Speaker 1: we've seen it's a superhero landing, the hero gets their
Speaker 1: costume in the third act, it says, Okay, what we
Speaker 1: have to do. We gotta find this object and cut
Speaker 1: them up, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean even you know, anytime you're
Speaker 2: just seeing like a horror movie, there's always like suspension
Speaker 2: of disbelief because characters kind of have to be stupid.
Speaker 2: They don't have to be. But this is just, you know,
Speaker 2: it's a trope within the genre characters that are being stupid.
Speaker 2: One that really bothered me is is again this dinner scene,
Speaker 2: which I think was really good for a bit there,
Speaker 2: and then I think it kind of falters with the
Speaker 2: end of it. But like it does get to the
Speaker 2: point where the dad it's freaking out, to the point
Speaker 2: where he stabs and kills the dog in front of everyone.
Speaker 2: And then after this you know two of the characters
Speaker 2: are they get out of there right, But then like
Speaker 2: Alice is like, yeah, I guess I'll go throw the
Speaker 2: stuff out, and the mom's like, yeah, I better, you know,
Speaker 2: put put the leftovers in the trash, and they just
Speaker 2: go back to their regular call me just stabbed and
Speaker 2: killed a dog, and you guys are just acting as
Speaker 2: if like, Okay, there's a limit.
Speaker 1: To what's allowed with any If he's then it's like
Speaker 1: k professional help.
Speaker 2: Let's like I only want to give it pass to
Speaker 2: his grandma because she doesn't know what's going on. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: some of that was like what it's hard for me
Speaker 2: to like invest in any of these characters or believe
Speaker 2: in any of them or really be like I just
Speaker 2: didn't care when anyone died or turned because I didn't,
Speaker 2: you know, other than Alice, but then she doesn't. Of
Speaker 2: course I was moving for her to some extent, but
Speaker 2: no one else they really care if they had a
Speaker 2: successful fate before the dad kills the dog, which I hated.
Speaker 2: That sucks with it killed dogs in the movies.
Speaker 3: But he everyone's like everyone is visually noticing that he's
Speaker 3: very unstable because he's like eyeing the corkscrew, he's grabbing
Speaker 3: the knife. He's getting angry, so they like this quickly,
Speaker 3: like they pull the utensils away from him, and then
Speaker 3: there's just one quick cut scene of him reaching like
Speaker 3: across the table slowly and grabbing the corkscrew.
Speaker 2: I'll take that, like hunched and slouched over to Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's literally so out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all, I got a question for you guys. After
Speaker 1: Snack's outbreak and we're back, so I get it people
Speaker 1: are grieving that stuff's going on. But even with my
Speaker 1: father in law, who you know, like, I'm not like
Speaker 1: the close with the you know it's him, There's no way.
Speaker 1: And this is before all the scary stuff happens, right,
Speaker 1: there's no way. If I see my father in law
Speaker 1: cutting himself in the basement, I'm just like I'll keep this,
Speaker 1: and you just like and he's like, oh, don't tell
Speaker 1: my wife, you know, no fucking way. I'm I'm upstairs
Speaker 1: immediately being like your dad needs help, we gotta go.
Speaker 1: We like, I'm not, We're not gonna go. And that's
Speaker 1: where it's like, I like the Al's character. There's nothing
Speaker 1: egregiously wrong with her, but that and I get she's
Speaker 1: also greened, but that's one where it's like, Okay, the
Speaker 1: dude needs some help. You cannot sit there. This guy
Speaker 1: was and it's not like a economy was maybe gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Even if that was the case, I would
Speaker 1: still be we're going to hospital, We're getting to help.
Speaker 1: This guy has taken gashes out of his hand, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'll hold on to this good stut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just And that's where that for me was the
Speaker 1: first sign in this movie of like, I think we're
Speaker 1: playing with the different deck of cards in this Evil
Speaker 1: Dead movie, Like these characters all around are gonna be
Speaker 1: a bit more like, oh, what's going on? And I
Speaker 1: think that always works better when it's more comedic, though,
Speaker 1: because when it's comedy, it's like, oh, they're idiots. That's
Speaker 1: what happens in Evil Dead too, right, Oh they're dummies.
Speaker 1: Where this it's like, they're not supposed to be dummies.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be real people. But that was I
Speaker 1: couldn't get on board with her not saying a single
Speaker 1: word to like Joseph like and because it's not like
Speaker 1: that's the other thing too, if she was we did
Speaker 1: a movie where her husband dies and she goes see
Speaker 1: this family and she's not really close with any of them,
Speaker 1: then I'd maybe kind of get it, but they established that,
Speaker 1: like she's hanging out with Joseph on a birthday, she
Speaker 1: seems friendly with Tina, So there's alationship there where, even
Speaker 1: if it's Tina the other person on the part of
Speaker 1: the family not to pull her aside and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this has happened, like what should I do? So right there,
Speaker 1: My kind of believability went out the window for this movie,
Speaker 1: even though again it's demons and possession and stuff, but
Speaker 1: still you need to have some various familitude going on.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I totally agree. Travis. You mentioned the pen
Speaker 2: in the ear, which, yeah, for me was probably the
Speaker 2: most tough scene to watch. The second one for me
Speaker 2: was definitely when we're in the bathroom with Alice and
Speaker 2: the mom she gets the razor and she's just shred
Speaker 2: and skin off her face. I had to look away.
Speaker 2: That was that. That one got me. Taylor, you said
Speaker 2: this movie was less brutal. What was what was the
Speaker 2: peak brutalness for you? Is there anything that you had
Speaker 2: to squeamish about You had to look away when Buddy's
Speaker 2: lying on the dish track and then takes the corkscrew
Speaker 2: and it's like dragging.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm surprised I got you because I just feel.
Speaker 2: Like they held on it for a long time. So
Speaker 2: that Yeah, it's just it's the it's the one my
Speaker 2: theater reacted to that one, for sure.
Speaker 3: It's the mental thought of just the it being if
Speaker 3: I've seen horror movies and action movies, you know, guys
Speaker 3: getting their their throats, slit with knives.
Speaker 2: I've seen that.
Speaker 3: But it's the fact that it was the cork screw
Speaker 3: and it's a point, but she's dragging like it's the
Speaker 3: coil across.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, god damn.
Speaker 1: That was the other one that I got Taylor big time,
Speaker 1: which I was surprised. The fingers in the car was brutal. Yeah, Taylor,
Speaker 1: you looked you were like.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was just so quick because like I just
Speaker 2: had hands and doors due for me for some reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't get me there, But shout out to
Speaker 1: Tina before. She is a dead eye man. She takes
Speaker 1: a lot of damage and she's still kicking. She's like
Speaker 1: John Wick over there, her hands.
Speaker 2: She was like the most normal person I think of
Speaker 2: the crew too, and the most sensible.
Speaker 1: She's missing a bunch of fingers and she's still fighting
Speaker 1: off this demon dad with DROs.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know what with like the shittiest
Speaker 2: boyfriend ever who's not doing anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, shout out to a RepA Tina in
Speaker 1: her face didn't not make it in the next movie.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I want to shout out here.
Speaker 3: So the family here, this kind of stems from the
Speaker 3: grandfather kind of creating and introducing this dynamic of the
Speaker 3: family and having to hide the family, keep his daughter
Speaker 3: safe by having this weapon protect them.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: He's part of the what was it called, like the
Speaker 2: middle circle or something like that.
Speaker 1: The Circle of wise Men circle WI. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: what we call ourselves behind closed doors and we're planning
Speaker 1: for geek for stuff. The Circle of Unwise.
Speaker 3: Men now on the wall and I pointed to this
Speaker 3: because like a gideo butt it, but you see Bruce
Speaker 3: Campbell and old elder Bruce Campbell, and I want to
Speaker 3: picture frames on the wall and he's also apparently in
Speaker 3: another quick frame as well. So I'm speculating, like, okay
Speaker 3: that Bruce Campbell's the grandfather.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought that was when they looked at the
Speaker 1: photo that was the older Bruce Campll when you're talking
Speaker 1: about the frame on the stairs, he just looks like
Speaker 1: Bruce Campbell right now, who is older.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, the picture of Bruce Campbell, it's just
Speaker 3: a picture of Bruce Campbell older. But I mean, like
Speaker 3: it would makes sense that this is the little family home,
Speaker 3: so he'd have to be the grandfather.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I don't know what. I don't think anything's
Speaker 1: gonna come of that. I think he's he's kind of
Speaker 1: he nicely part away from the series. He kind of
Speaker 1: did the whole like this isn't my evil dead sort of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the characters are relevant because we're moving this
Speaker 2: no more. Yeah, like so we're moving.
Speaker 3: Away from that character. Obviously they've introduced like a new
Speaker 3: narratives moving forward. But I think like in retrospect, I
Speaker 3: think they just threw it in there for fans to
Speaker 3: probably just kind of head Kennon like like this character
Speaker 3: that you don't ever see, you just hear his voice
Speaker 3: and you just kind of get to know he introduced
Speaker 3: this problem because he's got experience with it, would be
Speaker 3: Bruce Campbell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like like Olsoe, it's happening now, like one.
Speaker 1: I hope he's good because I know he's going through
Speaker 1: the cancer treatments and whatnot right now, and he says
Speaker 1: it seems on their control, but still hopefully all well.
Speaker 1: The Bruce Campbell, I think because of that help something.
Speaker 1: And I think also because yeah, he did put out
Speaker 1: of the statement this year that he's kind of left
Speaker 1: the franchise. I thought we were working towards. Yeah, Beth
Speaker 1: was her name, and Evil that Rise. I was really
Speaker 1: down for the idea of doing it, especially we'll get
Speaker 1: to the end credit of getting Mia from twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: Bethroom Rise and him all together to take on something.
Speaker 1: I still think there is juice to get and I
Speaker 1: actually think there would be really as much as I
Speaker 1: want them to do something a bit more comedic go around,
Speaker 1: I think there would be something very funny to Bruce
Speaker 1: Campbell back in one that's more serious, Like if he's
Speaker 1: like the lighthearted colmednything, but he's stuck in like a
Speaker 1: dead ass, really gross sort of evil dead movie, Like
Speaker 1: how does that character he already reacts to the Grissman,
Speaker 1: how does he react when he is seeing this type
Speaker 1: of stuff. I think there's tons of potential there. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he's even said that too, like, yeah, they had hits
Speaker 1: without me, so they don't need So it makes me
Speaker 1: sad that we're probably never gonna get ash again. And
Speaker 1: I know they did a lot three movies a series,
Speaker 1: but we're getting this renaissance. And I like that he's
Speaker 1: having these little cameos, but it makes me feel a
Speaker 1: little bad of like, yeah, he's just kinda like left
Speaker 1: in the dust, you know, so I but it sounds
Speaker 1: like he had like some notes and they didn't. They
Speaker 1: weren't really interested in his notes. So he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm out at here.
Speaker 2: This one specifically all Evil Dead like this.
Speaker 1: In the next one, he kind of I said that
Speaker 1: he just wasn't a fan of the way they're kind
Speaker 1: of I think what I'm worried is that they are
Speaker 1: just trying to like let's just go, Let's just let's
Speaker 1: make them you know, like I said, we'll get the
Speaker 1: end credits, but just a lot of this movie does
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, it's the Evil Dead universe now. It's
Speaker 1: like yeah, and maybe that for him.
Speaker 2: Was like we is definitely know what Rimes felt like
Speaker 2: at the time.
Speaker 1: No, it didn't. But because it made so much money,
Speaker 1: I think they're like, oh, look what we got here.
Speaker 1: You know, every three years and held dead movie, you know, so,
Speaker 1: but who knows, you never know, maybe he'll come back.
Speaker 2: But my last notes were just for the credit stuff.
Speaker 1: Actually, okay, let me think anything before credits that you
Speaker 1: think of.
Speaker 2: Mmm, I don't think I got anything else.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there's any good kills or
Speaker 1: anything anything that we're missing.
Speaker 3: Well, the I will say too, I wish we got
Speaker 3: a little bit more of it because they showed us
Speaker 3: as a preview when they put out I think the
Speaker 3: trailer before freeal Dead burns. But you see when the
Speaker 3: main actress with Tia when she's crawling and the mom's
Speaker 3: house Alice, thank you. Yeah, so the mom and her
Speaker 3: son are basically fighting dad, and you get that whole
Speaker 3: cool film.
Speaker 2: The water. Yeah, the water.
Speaker 3: So then you get the brief moment where the mom
Speaker 3: gets thrown and the brother or the son grows up
Speaker 3: and it is like trying to help her, and then
Speaker 3: you see the dad floating dead height style. That's the
Speaker 3: only time that that happens. The rest of stuff is
Speaker 3: like they're crawling out the.
Speaker 2: Walls on the ceiling.
Speaker 3: She does, but it's none of the blanket, but it's
Speaker 3: not that same like in Evil Dead too, you get
Speaker 3: that like the feet floating above the ground moving kind
Speaker 3: of like gliding thing, and that's that's that aesthetic is
Speaker 3: just so fucking ominous and I just that's just a
Speaker 3: big evil Dead kind of thing and I would have
Speaker 3: loved to have had more of that, But I think
Speaker 3: in this case it works great. Being kind of off
Speaker 3: to the side, using your perpherle vision in the background.
Speaker 3: It makes it a lot more terrifying.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's one that I couldn't. I get it.
Speaker 1: This mom's going through stuff, but I I couldn't buy
Speaker 1: into like her mom's like floating in the sky and
Speaker 1: she's like hugging her like I wish then they spent
Speaker 1: more time on hitting the mom being like super religious
Speaker 1: and super like.
Speaker 2: They do it a little bit, but she's just super fucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but she's still human at this point. She's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we can all be together. So that was something very weird.
Speaker 1: Type of a pacing story thing is when they before
Speaker 1: Tina gets her head crushed, she's finding the entire family,
Speaker 1: right and they have the scene where al SE's the
Speaker 1: stun double, but Tina has the Mom and she is
Speaker 1: throwing her against the wall to the point where she
Speaker 1: breaks the wall and breaks the mom through her. Granted
Speaker 1: they only see the mom. She's limping a little bit,
Speaker 1: but she's like making tea, She's getting the grandall set
Speaker 1: up for Vet. It's like, I don't know this woman.
Speaker 1: I think is maybe in her fifties sixties. If I'm
Speaker 1: right now in my theories, if you put me through
Speaker 1: a wall, I think I'm like, I'm not moving for
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of the walls were paper. There's black mold everywhere. This
Speaker 3: house was just falling up.
Speaker 1: We got married here and it's just going of oar.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just thought it was funny that she
Speaker 1: just like a getting destroyed. This movie with the mom
Speaker 1: keeps and back up there's that ghost again there and
Speaker 1: then the other thing again. And what made me romanz
Speaker 1: a little bit too is when they threw a teena
Speaker 1: into the I was happy we didn't get too much
Speaker 1: of it. When they threw into the basement and locked
Speaker 1: as like, oh no, are we doing We're doing this again?
Speaker 1: And they didn't really, They just had that one scene
Speaker 1: with the grammar of like, oh, you're gonna give me
Speaker 1: back my money, and that's why I did like that.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, sure, I'll give you back what
Speaker 1: you need. Yeah, that was good. But again that's just
Speaker 1: like the chain so sort of thing. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I really need some new environments I need
Speaker 1: I need some new stuff happening in Evil Dead. No
Speaker 1: more basements, no more chainsaws, no more this or that.
Speaker 2: You know. So yeah, and again that's like a character
Speaker 2: thing too, of like what's your guys's planned, Like you
Speaker 2: just locked her up there and you hope that that's
Speaker 2: gonna just work out for you after you And and.
Speaker 1: Two funny phone bits where it's it's fine, I can
Speaker 1: just say it's dead height magic, but like all this
Speaker 1: stuff goes down and of course just like throws down
Speaker 1: his phone no signal and big things okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like full screen no signals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like, okay, I could buy it, and
Speaker 1: I had to putting out some of the ways. Like
Speaker 1: the one that was funny for me is like at
Speaker 1: the end, Whale's chasing her construction and I like all
Speaker 1: the stuff. I like the red sky of the fire
Speaker 1: when she's running the road. I had some really cool visuals.
Speaker 1: It's just her shadow and silhouette and the entire sky,
Speaker 1: like very cool stuff. She gets a construction site and
Speaker 1: she finds a walkie talking. She's trying to call for help,
Speaker 1: and it's like, what's that I'm gonna do with? Like
Speaker 1: this is like even the other dead 's I kind
Speaker 1: of understand. This guy is like ghost Rider. What's gonna
Speaker 1: have the cops gonna show up and like shoot him
Speaker 1: to death? I don't know again, it was just just
Speaker 1: just some laughs or anything, but I think that's everything
Speaker 1: I have. I'm trying to think there's anything I'm missing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure might come up again in the future, but
Speaker 1: you're right there with your alarm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Madison didn't make it, but I'm here still do.
Speaker 1: Kidding he's going on And so we get two end
Speaker 1: credits here for Evil Dead. Burn obviously ends with which,
Speaker 1: Oh that's the thing, Taylor, because I don't think Dylan,
Speaker 1: you've seen this movie super weird. The ending of this
Speaker 1: movie is identical to Ready or Not. She's in there,
Speaker 1: We're all covered in blood. She asked for a cigarette.
Speaker 1: She's got like a broke hands.
Speaker 2: She spoke it.
Speaker 1: She makes a joke about her ex husband or the family.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is exactly like.
Speaker 2: A movie's like that. But I can't think of other examples.
Speaker 2: But that's funny.
Speaker 1: They could be, Yeah, I guess because it's more recent one.
Speaker 1: I was just like, no one thought of this, but anyway,
Speaker 1: so that's what happened. She in another weird moment, she
Speaker 1: stabs him with the day or. He turns back to
Speaker 1: regular Will says, I love you. That's not enough, kills him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, at least she didn't kiss him. I was
Speaker 1: really worried it was gonna be bad. But okay, sure
Speaker 1: she does that. Police people show up. We don't know
Speaker 1: what happens, but she seems to be safe. She go
Speaker 1: in the hospital. Great, we got two any crets here,
Speaker 1: I'm inn in a post credit the mid just a
Speaker 1: fun one. The grandma is still on the loose. I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna set up for however, deadlight'smooth again. Because
Speaker 1: she has no legs. Someone pulls over to help her, says,
Speaker 1: all your legs look like they'll do fine, and then
Speaker 1: scratch her knee. So of course she's infected, so that's going.
Speaker 1: And then the other one is we go back to
Speaker 1: the funeral home, so it's like, okay, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here because these characters, they don't have anything to do,
Speaker 1: especially the it's just the person that was like the
Speaker 1: give in the yulgi. I'm not sure if she's like
Speaker 1: a person of the cloth. Probably yeah, oh yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go funeral director and it's her their daughter, and
Speaker 1: they're some tumble life and death and like, oh we
Speaker 1: keep what's all these Oh we keep all these urns
Speaker 1: because people don't come and pick up the remains and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Yet that we keep him here. Uh that she gets
Speaker 1: a call and like, oh, I gotta this is probably
Speaker 1: for that whatever job the guy that got killed the
Speaker 1: what are the cremator guy, because she's replacing him, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's probably something for the cremation job. Shows she leaves
Speaker 1: her daughter in this room with all these urns, starts
Speaker 1: to look at them, and then we see one name.
Speaker 1: I can't remember it is, but I remember the name
Speaker 1: being Okay, that's link to rights.
Speaker 2: And then we see it's like Ellie right.
Speaker 1: Well, no to the first one. They show another one.
Speaker 1: It's like one of the kids, I think because they
Speaker 1: have different names with the father yeah, and then it
Speaker 1: is yeah, and then it is Ellie. So Elissa Sidlen
Speaker 1: is back in the scene, the daughter of this kid
Speaker 1: whatever shakes the urn and then you hear some speaking
Speaker 1: and then she looks in the mirror. You see regular Ellie.
Speaker 1: She's looking all you know, mom, gorgeous woman moving around,
Speaker 1: gets her to touch her finger, touches her finger, lights
Speaker 1: go out. Then behind her there's al but now she's
Speaker 1: in dead ye form snaps a kid's neck and not
Speaker 1: even like in a way where it's like oscreen and
Speaker 1: the shows let it snap track. They zoom in on
Speaker 1: that kid, but it's like evil dead. They don't care.
Speaker 1: And then they say or and then Ellie goes Mama's back.
Speaker 1: I'm of two minds of this because this movie was
Speaker 1: missing that anchor. So if you tell me, hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get more Melissa Southern than the future as Ellie,
Speaker 1: that's that's great because I know that character's locked, Like,
Speaker 1: I think there's great stuff you can do there. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, we already got rides and I
Speaker 1: feel like that story is complete. I guess there's something
Speaker 1: you can do there, because if you remember her sister
Speaker 1: Beth was pregnant, so maybe there's something where you pick
Speaker 1: up where it's them years later. She's had her kid,
Speaker 1: the other kid's grown up, and now her sister's coming
Speaker 1: back again. Whatever. Maybe she could be the big bat
Speaker 1: of like what people are pitching if we were to
Speaker 1: get like you know, you know, uh Ash and me
Speaker 1: and all them back together and that's who, because I
Speaker 1: feel like she's clearly the biggest like dead eight bad
Speaker 1: guy that the series have had. It just felt so
Speaker 1: ems you like that. It's like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: I feel about this. I'm very torn of like I
Speaker 1: like a list of some of them haven't seen anything else.
Speaker 1: Her is this dead eyed alley. She's gonna kill it
Speaker 1: and that'll be tons of fun getting more of her.
Speaker 1: But do I want her to be like the Loki
Speaker 1: fanos of building up? I don't know. This for me
Speaker 1: is gonna be all about execution the future. But yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you feel about this? Stillon?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I uh, it really did nothing for me. It
Speaker 2: feels pretty forced. It's not like a particularly amazing scene either. No,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I definitely definitely didn't need this, and I
Speaker 2: kind of wish they just omitted it in general. To me,
Speaker 2: it also, yeah, just doesn't really doesn't really feel very
Speaker 2: evil deady. So yeah, it felt a little forced, a
Speaker 2: little inorganic. I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you, Taylor, You said you had some questions,
Speaker 1: So I.
Speaker 3: Have questions because I just don't understand like she's she's
Speaker 3: back in a physical form, I guess, But I just
Speaker 3: don't know why they would have pursued this, because you're right,
Speaker 3: Rise had that story start to finish and it wrapped
Speaker 3: it up up and then we got that tie in
Speaker 3: being the girl at the beginning of this movie in
Speaker 3: the lake. I thought that was a great connection. It's
Speaker 3: leading into a new story and a new dynamic with narratives.
Speaker 3: But then just to come full circle, I feel like, Okay,
Speaker 3: now we got this mom back, and so the first
Speaker 3: mid credit scene is focusing the story this way, and
Speaker 3: now this is focusing the story that way. I feel
Speaker 3: like it's just two movies. That's why that's two movies.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that this movie is like financially,
Speaker 3: I don't know even the franchise right now is set.
Speaker 2: Up to be.
Speaker 3: Getting that because Wrath is in the past. But now
Speaker 3: you're telling me we're going to get a sequel that's
Speaker 3: going to have Granny's succession here and then a sequel
Speaker 3: with the mom coming back, or is it all going
Speaker 3: to culminate in the past with wrath.
Speaker 1: I'll take that. If we got a list of Southern
Speaker 1: seventies for somebody that she goes back, that that'd be
Speaker 1: fun to see what happens. She has to go back
Speaker 1: to her like young self or something, and you got
Speaker 1: like a young actress playing Ellie to fight like at all.
Speaker 1: But I think the Graham things just for fun, and
Speaker 1: it's like, if we ever want to do something with
Speaker 1: this again, it's like the girl from Rise right where
Speaker 1: it's set up that she was in the water. Ah,
Speaker 1: we used her to transition over there. I don't think
Speaker 1: they have to do anything with the Gramma, but they could.
Speaker 1: I think obviously got rap. I do think that'll be
Speaker 1: its own thing. I hope it is. I think the
Speaker 1: Ellie thing is the we're gonna bring back those Rise
Speaker 1: characters and do that because that was a big hit,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think this movie's gonna be
Speaker 1: do as good as Rise. We gonna remember, these movies
Speaker 1: are still made pretty cheap, so I still think it's
Speaker 1: gonna make a profit to the point where we will
Speaker 1: also we're getna yield Dead Wrap. I think if you
Speaker 1: get that and this back to back and they're maybe
Speaker 1: a little underwhelming money wise, they might question it. But
Speaker 1: I think that's why you bring a character like Ellie
Speaker 1: back because that was I could be wrong. Is it
Speaker 1: the biggest evil Dead of all time? Maybe that's maybe
Speaker 1: that's why they're just so bullish on this franchise right now.
Speaker 2: I think that's true.
Speaker 1: That doesn't Yeah, I think that is true. So I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the thing too, where it's like.
Speaker 2: Okay, the marketing campaign was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so it was let's see, yeah, it's Evil
Speaker 1: Dead Rise. That's the biggest movie of this franchise. So
Speaker 1: that's where it's like, again, if you look at the franchise,
Speaker 1: to me, if you look at who's like the number
Speaker 1: one Battie, I know it's the most recent, but there's
Speaker 1: not many like like even again in twenty thirteen. Mia.
Speaker 1: She's also the protagonist of that movie, right, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of a and she's good at the end of that.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a way where it's kind of
Speaker 1: she's like a break glass option of like oh, you know,
Speaker 1: if let's say Burn didn't do as well and rapped
Speaker 1: and do as well, let's do one more with Ellie
Speaker 1: because everyone really liked that villain and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: biggest evil dead of all time. So numbers speak for
Speaker 1: itself there, so it's true. And again she I'll see
Speaker 1: if I can find even like what the budgets for
Speaker 1: this evil dead Burn budget was twenty million. Yeah, they're fine.
Speaker 1: They just they just got hit forty and they're in
Speaker 1: the they're getting in the profit song, and I think
Speaker 1: this thing will at least make like one hundred million.
Speaker 2: So that's the thing where it's like, that's a nice budget.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's where it's like everything else we'll talk
Speaker 1: about you right with back Rooms Obsession, other horror films
Speaker 1: like even Undertones, right, that movie was made for I
Speaker 1: think like five million and made like double or like
Speaker 1: four times its budget.
Speaker 2: Like you know, I mean you were talking about that
Speaker 2: at the start, that like this is Southern hasn't risen
Speaker 2: to some huge fame or anything like that. I wonder
Speaker 2: how much her paycheck would be though, to bring her
Speaker 2: back for like a full Obviously she's probably paid to
Speaker 2: be in this scene here but like, what would be
Speaker 2: like to pay her to bring for this? Like can
Speaker 2: you keep these budgets low and bring back someone like
Speaker 2: I'm sure she would do it if considering what I mean,
Speaker 2: she's probably been in some cool stuff since then. We
Speaker 2: don't know what those things are, but I'm sure she's
Speaker 2: done something. But she's I guess if part of the
Speaker 2: game plan for Evil Dead is like budgets low, I
Speaker 2: wonder how much like bringing back old characters who don't
Speaker 2: really need to but might do it for like the
Speaker 2: right paycheck. If that kind of breaks the bank and
Speaker 2: makes this unsustainable. Who knows.
Speaker 1: We'll see she's only been one other thing that came
Speaker 1: out in twenty twenty three, the Mental sty Weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Maybe she decided she took a
Speaker 1: break and it was doing something. But even then, you
Speaker 1: got to think back in that day, she probably didn't
Speaker 1: get paid like a crazy amount. I bet think he
Speaker 1: say like, hey, we'll give you that.
Speaker 2: In Double True, so much about momentum, that's kind of
Speaker 2: surprising that she hasn't been either by her choice or
Speaker 2: just just hasn't worked out.
Speaker 1: Who knows, but she's in a movie, own brother, what's
Speaker 1: going on here. She's a movie called The Room Below.
Speaker 1: I mean I just quickly screenshare this because this is
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, not looking too good. That's a
Speaker 1: straight to DVD, like call anything right there. So until
Speaker 1: maybe there's not much you gotta get.
Speaker 2: It's a horrendous movie.
Speaker 1: There's not much you gotta do to get her back.
Speaker 1: But again, I'm interested this. This movie wasn't so bad.
Speaker 1: We're'm like, oh, it's it's over. Like it's not like
Speaker 1: a vultures shown up in the end credit. More we
Speaker 1: be seeing like, oh, we're really cooked. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trepidacious, but like, I'm all down for how
Speaker 1: we go again? If it's leading to the crossover of
Speaker 1: even a couple, even if it's the Three Ladies, Let's
Speaker 1: say Bruce Cammel's out of it's Alice, Mia and Beth
Speaker 1: from last movie. I think there's some fun thing of
Speaker 1: like all these ladies that survive the Dead Night, it's
Speaker 1: gotta come back together, you know, there there is some
Speaker 1: fun stuff to do. It's just all but execute. But Dylan,
Speaker 1: what would you mate this one?
Speaker 2: I will give Evil dead Burn a six point five
Speaker 2: out of ten.
Speaker 1: We are just in line tonight, sir. I'm exactly where
Speaker 1: you are. I think. For on the filmmaking side, I'd
Speaker 1: go like a seven because I love a lot of
Speaker 1: the shots in here. But then on the filmmaking side,
Speaker 1: for the like the script and story wise, that kind
Speaker 1: of takes it down. So I was between a six
Speaker 1: and the number that comes after since I'm going right
Speaker 1: in the middle, like you a six point five.
Speaker 2: So I like that pivot.
Speaker 1: Yeah it Kurculum would wake up out of a sickness there.
Speaker 3: What about you, I'm gonna go six point seventy five.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not I'm not as not as
Speaker 3: low on it, but I'm a little bit higher than
Speaker 3: you guys. Yeah, I just I think that the not much,
Speaker 3: not much, because again, I feel like the violence was
Speaker 3: definitely a little bit more tame. Some scenes were rushed,
Speaker 3: and just some of the stuff the characters do didn't
Speaker 3: feel like Evil Dead comedic.
Speaker 2: It just felt bad like that.
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to I'm not trying to dog
Speaker 3: on on it or anything like, because I did have
Speaker 3: a good time with the movie.
Speaker 2: I like this.
Speaker 3: I like that you have the universe of Evil Dead
Speaker 3: and this movie I think does a good job at
Speaker 3: polling different things and making those little cameos, like when
Speaker 3: when Tia gets thrown into the basement, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, there's a little callback. You know, all these
Speaker 3: dead it's always gt thrown into basements or or sellers
Speaker 3: and whatnot. And some of the comedy stuff with the
Speaker 3: Grandma that made me laugh too. You know, she's thinking
Speaker 3: to you is always stealing from her and all that
Speaker 3: jazz and uh, you know, you get that shot of
Speaker 3: Alice looking down the stairs and Granny's tied to the
Speaker 3: chair and she's down at the bottom. She's you know,
Speaker 3: she's looks she's rubbing cutting that leg off, you know,
Speaker 3: going like crazy and.
Speaker 1: I'm clipping it.
Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, just all that stuff. It's it's uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that this movie will it will not stand
Speaker 2: as strongly as Rise did. But you know, for me,
Speaker 2: I got Evil Dead two, Evil Dead Rise?
Speaker 1: What O.
Speaker 2: Those are kind of like my higher end ones that
Speaker 2: I'll go to before I go about thirteen.
Speaker 1: That's a crazy.
Speaker 2: Thirteen's in there too.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not not in that order, but like
Speaker 3: thirteen Rise and Evil Dead two, like those, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go to those ones before before this one, I'd have
Speaker 3: to think and actually give like a Pupper ranking or
Speaker 3: did we do the rankings?
Speaker 2: I can't even remember back in the Yeah we.
Speaker 1: Did, we did act but I can. Maybe we'll revisit
Speaker 1: for a Wrath when we got a couple more entries
Speaker 1: in the franchise there. But yeah, we'll we'll we'll be
Speaker 1: back for Wrath. We'll see what that's going on again.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get seventies. I'm excited at the idea
Speaker 1: of a sex coming of age Tael. I think they
Speaker 1: we got a little bit of the kiss. I think
Speaker 1: we might see some dead ights fucking in this next week,
Speaker 1: and I hope I'm hoping that's maybe more comedic, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that's a bit more because you know that
Speaker 1: can be funny. Dead height's having sex, you know. So
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens in the future.
Speaker 1: This has been GB seven twelve, and I promise you
Speaker 1: and hear from this next it won't be boring.
Speaker 2: Goodbye.
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