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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody. It's time for full court press.

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And I double checked today is Thursday. I think I

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said yesterday was Thursday. But you know, when you drive

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around with Brian Power all week into like three different cities,

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it takes a few days to figure out what day

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it is. But we've got our bearings. It is, in

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fact Thursday, and we're gonna get right into a BP.

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I'm gonna bring you in first big big game. Not

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a big slate in college hoop tonight, no, but big

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big game down in Tuscaloosa, kick us off Perdue Alabama,

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top ten matchup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I'm driving around with myself, I often have

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a hard time keeping track of what day it is.

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Let's talk about purdueing Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 2: Look, don't need to dig too deep to understand that

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this is obviously the headline game on tonight's slate. Guys

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number two vers Number eight, seven pm Eastern on esp

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and two. Purdue drops from number one to number two

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in the rankings. We talked about this yesterday. They only

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beat Oakland last time out by ten. That was kind

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of an alarm. I guess sew some arm bells for

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the pollsters and lo and behold that loss or that win.

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Pardon me, you know, I think for some it felt

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like a loss, but that win now looks even worse

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than it did at the time. Now, right, guys, because

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a game we talked about yesterday, Oakland and Houston. What

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does Houston do to Oakland last night? Well they won

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by thirty three points and yes, another first half cash

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for Calvin Sampson. Truth be told, Trick, I actually think

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relative to where these guys, these two teams Perdue in

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Alabama are ranked right now in the top twenty five,

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versus where they are in my power rankings, I'll call

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them both slightly overrated. As a matter of fact. I

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don't know if you guys can chime in on that

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if you're so, if you want to, But I'm a

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little concerned with the Purdue defense it you know, you look,

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you crack open the box score in that Oakland game,

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Purdue allows one point one points per possession fifty two

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on two point attempts. That's not good when you're getting

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ready to face a team like Alabama who just put

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up one oh two against Saint John's and they did

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that Robin Trigg only shooting eleven of thirty five from three.

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What i'llmagine how it points the Crimson Tide would have

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put up if they were shooting well from distance. Now,

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that's kind of always been a fit. They always get

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theirs even when they're not shooting from three, even though

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it's a home game against the number two team in

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the country. I'll say that, is there a potential for

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a little bit of a letdown for the Crimson Tide here?

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I mean that that's not any easy game they just

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had against Saint John's. I mean it was an impressive performance.

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But going Saint John's to Purdue, this is a very

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tough early scheduling spot. We've seen the market move in

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Alabama's direction. I think the key is gonna be whether

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or not Purdue can slow the pace down right that

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it's very hard to do on the road again, especially

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against team like Alabama. But at one seventy five and

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a half, is this total getting a little bit too high?

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I think it might be.

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Speaker 3: Before you get before you I bring you in to

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break this one down.

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Speaker 1: I want to point out I do think we see

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the season debut of Trey Kaufman ren here for Purdue.

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That is, he had a great game against Alabama last year,

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in a game that Purdue kind of dominated them, if

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I remember correctly, I ended up winning by.

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Speaker 3: Like ten or so.

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Speaker 1: That was so the big one of the biggest early

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season tilts last year, Rob was at Bama at Purdue.

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Purdue kind of dominated that game. I think Trey Coff

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and Wren went for like twenty five. So that's obviously

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a big deal. And as far as I'm hearing it

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looks like he's going to play tonight, does that entice

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you to punch back at the market ont all?

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Speaker 3: What is the question?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's huge, It's definitely huge, And then the question

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you ask yourself is you know? And my answer to

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this would probably be the former rather than the latter.

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But the question would be does he come in and

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fit right in or does it take make him a

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game or two to fit right back in. Trey Kaufman,

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RN's a guy who's been there, done that, played this team.

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As you mentioned, Adam twenty six points last week last

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year against them when they played in Mackie. So I

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would think he does fit right in with them, and

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they need them, let's face it, Without him, I don't

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think they're beating Alabama. But with him, it's a different story. Maybe, Brian,

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on whether or not pre excuse me, whether or not

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Alabama is underrated. Direct quotes from Natos which would tell

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you that he's ready for this game. Natos says people

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are not holding his club in the correct level of

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his steam. Felt like when they opened the season ranked fifteenth,

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slapping the face, went and beat Saint John's still thinks

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they're underrated. On the other side of that coin is Purdue,

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who feels like against Oakland they didn't exert themselves defensively. Again,

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you get it to here's Fletcher Lawyer quick and then

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I'll get into a little diet tribe here. But Fletcher

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Lawyer the end of the quote, it starts with the

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defensive end.

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Speaker 5: We have to be better on defense. You know, credit

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to Oakland, they played a great game. Blah blah blah

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blah blah blah. And it leads me back to what

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we have to be better defensively. You know, everybody says this,

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does it always apply?

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Speaker 4: Last night? Of course, my bank will will show you

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that it did apply because I went against the quote

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and U ALR scored forty nine points in that game.

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But I think the biggest point here, guys is for

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me number one, the change of venue. Listen, the back

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courts are what they are. It's a stalemate bold. It

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really boils down to the front court. And as you mentioned, Brian,

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pace of game last year, it was slowed down a

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little bit and they totaled one sixty five. Is one

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sixty five a slow game? Eighty seven seventy eight? Probably not?

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So can they get ten more here in Tuscaloosa. Probably

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So they're gonna force it. You don't be Alabama by

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not scoring what Purdues scored last year eighty five plus.

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to eighty five against them. They're gonna put up enough shots,

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They're gonna score enough points, etcetera, etcetera. I do think

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it boils down somewhat to the front court, and I

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think it boils down to three point shooting. Alabama's just

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got more weapons than Purdue does from the three point.

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When Fletcher Lawyer is off to a great start and

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Alabama's the only team, well, if Trey Kaufman Wren plays,

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to start the game, right, Kaufman Wren would probably take

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that spot. So I think in summary here that the

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move toward Alabama, I feel it's probably correct. And I'm

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gonna side with Brian on something that you said where

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Purdue's defensive numbers might look great so far, but I

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don't know how great they are, to tell you the truth,

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and this is gonna be a test like they haven't

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faced tall season long. Of course, they saw them last year.

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little bit different, right, But Alabama is Alabama, and I

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trust in Natos's should I call it anger for where

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they're placed right now or how they've looked at nationally?

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So I think Alabama probably wins. And you know, seventy

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one and a half is a lot better than one

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seventy four and a half or one seventy five if

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you're playing over I think probably i'd look toward Bama.

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the total movement up guys, because he does provide offensive

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Speaker 3: I'll still have to look.

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Speaker 4: At that but I think I'm going to side with

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Alabama here minus three and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have much else to add here, so

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I'll just say a couple things in closing one. Coffin

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he had a really good offensive game against this team

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last year, so you know, definitely think that there might

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be some correlation to him likely playing and the the

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over moving up. Not surprised at all. It looks like

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there's some buyback on Purdue. Three and a half continues

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to get hit, But that doesn't surprise me at all

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any any you know that's that's just like probably board

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cleaners taking like key numbers right there. I don't think

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you can really like, you know, take anything from that.

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This is a huge game there. There's gonna be conviction

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on both sides of this matchup. So again, it's really

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more like, you know, trying to get the best number

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with the side that you like. For me, yeah, coming

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off the Saint John's game is not the best spot

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for Alabama, but you're also you've got Purdue having to

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go to Tuscaloosa. We saw Bama go into West Lapaette

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last year and lose an early season game, so it's

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like a likely pass for me. Alabama still has really,

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really good guards that can score, so I don't really

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know if I want to step in front of them.

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So I will step to the side if you will

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avoid this one and go to a different game.

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Speaker 3: Ago, I had both the.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna. I was gonna tell Robb I've

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actually had a conversation with Nat Oats before he even Yeah,

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he didn't want to have it. This was at the

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MAC semi finals ten ish years ago. Well, he was

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still from Buffalo yet I yelled out. I yelled out,

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coach Olts, don't worry about number forty five on Saturday

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for Kent State, and this lady next to me started

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laughing very hard. I was like, oh, I still got it, huh.

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Of course Buffalo went to the NCAA tournament that year.

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It was NATO's wife. She really had She was laughing

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up for the two hours my comedy routine worked on

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missus Oates. I'll say that, but Nate had a little

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smirk on his face too, and I told him not

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to worry about number forty five on Kent State. But yeah,

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so Nate and I have chatted. It was a one

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way conversation, but a conversation nonetheless, you.

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Speaker 4: Know the nature of Brian power conversation, one way conversation.

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Real quick, Adam, I'm going to point out and you know,

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further thought on that game and how to go about it.

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And we just saw the number move again, at least

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the one I'm looking at, which is the first half number.

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I feel like if you want to play Alabama in

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this game, you probably want to play first half minus

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Speaker 3: First half.

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Speaker 4: I'd expect Alabama to come out at home in this environment,

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to come out pretty quick here. Not that Purdue is

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not veteran enough with their guards to withstand this venue,

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but I think they could get to them early and

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then Purdue makes adjustments in second half rallies. Alabama's very

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good at giving up leads and very good at giving

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up points. So for me, for those who are interested

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in this game, I think my way to go would

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be here here would be Alabama minus one and a half,

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which just we saw the two's cleared out just now

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down to one and a half.

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Speaker 2: Because it's early in the year, because do we you know,

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they just beat Saint John's, obviously, do we Is that

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less of a factor to you guys, that you're coming

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off one big game and have another rather than if this,

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you know, if it was the second of back to

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back big games, and obviously it would be conference games

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if once we get to January and February. But is

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that I mean, does the fact they're coming off such

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an impressive performance against Saint John's at a you know

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what was basically a road game, does that bother you

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guys on the Alabama side.

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Speaker 3: Not not really, because they're coming home. Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I'll just make a quick point about that. Brian Gledger

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brought it up because I consider Rick Patino Saint John's

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team a very good defensive team. Their style, the way

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they get after it, and that's the kind of team

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that Alabama that likes to run. Saint John's likes to

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run back, and Saint John's likes to get up on

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you man to man. And they scored one hundred and

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three on that team. Patino's quotes after that game were

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very very they were directed at his defense. Let's put it, well,

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he didn't like what he saw. But is that more

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product of this Alabama offense. Filon looked great in that game.

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a big game here last year against this team in

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uh in Mackie. So I think that it depends how

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I would say that Alabama just shredded a really really

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good defense for one hundred and three and now they're

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gonna come home and they did it on the road.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's uh okay, someone I gotta I gotta

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call this out. Someone said, oh, the show went over yesterday.

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Mississippi Valley State covered, Binghamton covered. I think I gave

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out a three percenter on cal Poly that covered.

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Speaker 3: Certainly didn't go over. We certainly did not hit the parlay.

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Speaker 1: But guess what we are even without a parlay win

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on the week, we're still plus like twelve point three

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three units. I have to I have it written down here,

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and and the point is, like, you know, just this

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this show is like we're we're just giving out thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Let's uh so, we got a whole bunch of people

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asking about this, which I firally gempted to be the case,

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Andrew Meek. I didn't mean to throw a paragraph over

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your face right there, Brian, as you were delivering that

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fantastic promo, but I did on accident. Andrew Meek says, hey, guys,

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can you give me some info on the early game?

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And I did a little research as to why we

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had one standalone game on a neutral site. It didn't

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feel like it was like part of anything. Because I'm like, oh, well,

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what other games are in Saint Petersburg, Florida today? And

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three day event where they're playing one standalone game at

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eleven am each day. I love when these mts get

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creative like that. So shout out to whoever put this

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together and said, you know what, you know, we maybe

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we don't have the biggest names here, but instead of

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playing this at seven o'clock and no one's gonna watch,

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we're gonna put this on YouTube. So it's probably like

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a similar to the Field of sixty eight stream and

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we're gonna give you three standalone eleven am starts over

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the next three days. So the first one rob Central

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Michigan Southern Alabama. Very interesting stylistic match up here. So

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we'll go around the horn and see if we have

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any thoughts, eleven Am Tip in Saint Petersburg, Florida.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go ahead. What I'm going to focus in

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on here, Adam. We've talked about many of them so

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far the first seven eight days of the show, but

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there's a couple that we haven't hit on, and hopefully

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we'll get to hit on the second one that I

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want to focus on here today. But it's the coaching

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change and it pertains the Central Michigan. They go to

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the Division two route and they pick up Farris State

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head coach Andy Bronkima. Hopefully I'm saying it right, Coach.

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If I'm wrong, I didn't have time to go to

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YouTube and get the correct pronunciation of your name, but

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hopefully I'm right. Anyway, bottom line is he brought some

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Farris State players with him. They were not good at

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ball protection last year. If you go back, I can

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look at Fairris State numbers and South Alabama, one of

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their best assets has taken the ball away from you.

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So I think you have a head coach here. We've

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talked a lot about cohesion. We've talked a lot about

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putting new rosters together. Do they come out of the

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gate quickly? Do they come out of the gate evaluation wise,

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experimentation wise, trying to find rotations, etc. I play Central

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Michigan in that category, trying to figure it out. South

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Alabama I think can't. It's a neutral. Of course, you

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don't get a home floor here, but neutral probably favors

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South Alabama due to location, not that South Alabama's going

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to travel in caravans to the game. Don't misquote me there,

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but I will say that I think that that particular matchup. Guys,

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when you can pick teams up at half court, three,

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quarter court, or you can harass them enough to force turnovers,

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I like that side. I agree with the line movement here.

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Has it gotten out of control? Four to six? You

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see some six and a halfs now shop it as

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well as you can. But for me, I would probably

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like the South Alabama side. I think Central Michigan has

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some work to do here. Yet there's still a process

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to putting this roster together in a way where they're,

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you know, as competitive as they want to be.

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Speaker 1: Brian Power, I got to point something out and then

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I'll kick this to you. We just went and saw

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Toledo play over the weekend, and Toledo opened the season

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with South Alabama, and the way Toledo plays offensively is

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very similar to the way Central Michigan plays offensively. It's

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they have a lot of the same sort of principles.

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Go back to that opening night game, Toledo really struggled

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with that South Alabama zone to start off that game,

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and that score, correct me if I'm wrong, was a

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little deceiving because it was like Toledo just went bombs

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away late to come back from I think was it

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like double digits down, So that would be my concern,

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and it has me agreeing, has me agreeing with Rob

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here that the favorite is.

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Speaker 3: Probably the right side. It got that quickly and at six.

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Speaker 1: I don't don't know if I can can can do

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it myself, but I certainly wouldn't put you off of

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a South Alabama bet in this spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel this has been such a theme in

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the early going.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: I hate to keep de laboring these same points, but

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you know, you break down a game, you like a side,

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you go to the odscreen and say, my god, I'm

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not alone in liking this side, And that's what's happened here,

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you know, Just to kind of piggyback up what you

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just said, trig what South Alabama does defensively with the zoe,

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they want you to take a lot of threes, and

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so this game, I mean, I don't want to say

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it's a one factor handicap. There's no such thing really,

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but it's gonna boil down the whether or not you

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think Central Michigan is going to be able to be

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effective from downtown in unfamiliar environments. Saint Petersburg, eleven AM

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Eastern on a Thursday, it doesn't sound like the biggest

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recipe to have a hot afternoon shooting from three. So yeah,

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I agree with the market here, And you were correct

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Adam about that South Alabama's Toledo game. That was a

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game where South Alabama led by thirteen at the half.

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They wound up winning by two because yeah, Toledo made

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it a little bit interesting late with some threes. So yeah,

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I think Central Michigan, you know, unless if they get

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unexpectedly hot from three, they probably go down in Central Michigan.

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I will say, I love you. You were very kind

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to me on the football field last night.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 2: I always have a no sweat winner like that against

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Buffalo as they took care of business. But I think

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it's gonna be a little bit tougher for the basketball

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team this morning here in about forty minutes. I would

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lean the South Alabama side for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, Garth, thank you so much for the donation

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of the channel. We greatly appreciate it. We also appreciate

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all of any interaction you'll give us. Likes, subscribes, comments

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We'd love to hear the feedback. I've been told to

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talk less as the host. It's tough, but I will try.

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I'm doing my best, But I do have a couple

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of things to say about Garth's play. So he says

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he's leaning a couple of Cornell.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's a mouthful.

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Speaker 1: He's leaning Cornell to cover the four and a half,

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and I would lean to you being correct, Garth. I

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think Lafayette is going to be bad this year, like

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very bad. They would be the worst team in the

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Patriot League this year if it wasn't for Army, who

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I think is maybe one of the worst teams in

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the country. Justin Vanderbann on this team last year, a

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seven footer like you just don't get that in the

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Patriot League very often. I feel like he was sort

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of a band aid like that. Lafayette wasn't very good

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last year either. You go back a couple of years,

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it was like two years ago, three years ago, and

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they kind of made their surprise run to the Patriot

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League Final, and I think their coach got fired for

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harassing someone in the front office, A story for another day.

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But this team, I feel like the last couple of

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years has really relied on Vanderband to like make them

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even like a little bit Okay. Now he's graduated, he's gone.

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You take a seven footer that was productive off of

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a Patriot League team and you don't replace him with

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like anyone of note that team tends to fall very very.

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Speaker 3: Quickly in the power rankings.

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Speaker 1: Now Cornell is not the in my opinion, they're not

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going to be quite the Brian Earle Coronell.

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Speaker 3: He's now at William and Mary.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're just not quite as polished as

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they were when he was the head coach. But his assistant,

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longtime assistant, is still the coach. Like this is still

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a pretty good Cornell team. I'll reference that Cornell Kent

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State game where they got the exact pace they wanted,

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playing in the hundreds. I think that's going to be

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a real problem for Lafayette. And I actually think I

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made forget what I made this number, but it was

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this one on my radar.

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Speaker 3: I haven't bet it yet, but I think I.

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Speaker 1: Had Cornell maybe like an eight point favorit or seven

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point favorite, something like, Oh yeah, I made them eight

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and a half. So if you can still get a

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four and a half out there, I think that's a

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decent bet.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead by yeah, three point shooting. We talked about

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it each of the previous two breakdowns. Let's bring it

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up again. It's always such an important part of college

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basketball handicapping. In the year twenty twenty five, Cornell per

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Ken Palm is they're jacking it up. They have the

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third highest percentage this year of threes relative to total

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field goal attempts, so they're they're taking a very When

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you look at their number of field their total number

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of field goal attempts the Big Red, almost fifty eight

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percent of their field goal attempts rob are coming from

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behind the arc.

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Speaker 3: That is a I number.

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Speaker 2: Again, third highest percentage in the country, so they're living

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and dying by the three. It is a road game, Trigg.

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I don't know. That always does scare me, you know,

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when you're relying.

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Speaker 1: On NAT and you're going We've boys been there. I've

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been there a couple of times. These Patriot League schools

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tend to get like big, big atmospheres for like the

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conference tournament type games. I'm not I don't think you're

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gonna have a huge atmosphere in this one. And actually,

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last time I was there, I was sitting courtside for

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a conference tournament game and this this.

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Speaker 3: Guy kept whipping me with his towel. The guy sitting

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next to me was like so fired up. He had

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a lap jersey.

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Speaker 1: It was like try in his like late twenties, and

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and they were playing Lehigh, who's their rival, and and

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for some reason he felt like it was cool to

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just like the snapping the towel he kept hitting me.

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Speaker 3: I had to I had to move. It was just

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it was it was crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I think Lehigh ended up running them out of

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them out of their own gym in that so the towel,

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the towel got put away pretty quickly because Lehigh ran

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them out. But yeah, I don't think you're gonna have

475
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,079
that kind of cowl. Guy might be there, but I

476
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,640
don't know if anyone else is going to be there.

477
00:23:55,759 --> 00:24:01,039
Speaker 2: So your favorite, your favorite whipping story, Rob tell us

478
00:24:01,079 --> 00:24:02,039
the time you've been with.

479
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,759
Speaker 4: You know, Okay, I gotta pay all right?

480
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,559
Speaker 1: Oh god, Yeah, that's a rivalry like Lafiete Lehigh is

481
00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:17,000
a pretty big rivalry. I don't think they're gonna get

482
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,480
the same juice for Cornell and and I gotta be

483
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:23,519
honest this one. I'm thinking about throwing this on the card.

484
00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:26,279
Four and a half seems good, you know what I'm

485
00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:29,480
gonna I'm gonna do it right now. I'm gonna take that.

486
00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:32,240
And I'm also gonna make that the parlay leg I'm

487
00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:36,599
about four points off what the market is and four.

488
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: And a half seems good.

489
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: It may be five, who knows, we may we may

490
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,960
move it, but I'm gonna I'm gonna add this as

491
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,599
a client play.

492
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: It was already on my radar.

493
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,039
Speaker 1: And I just think that there is a sizeable difference

494
00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:51,119
between these two teams, and I just be I would

495
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,039
be really really surprised if they don't. If Lafayette has

496
00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:57,720
any answer to this, like craziness that Cornell is gonna

497
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,279
throw at them.

498
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,799
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna la it here.

499
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: With Cornell Brian, I'm trying to give this out to clients,

500
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,400
So hop it. I'm gonna let you give you the

501
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,720
keys here, hop into the comments and get us a game. Actually,

502
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,480
you know what, I'm gonna tell you what you guys

503
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:15,039
need to address? What is going on with the Pitt

504
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:17,799
West Virginia line right now? I'm seeing it's up to

505
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,720
like seven. Is Pitt making the trip? Are they even

506
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,279
gonna show up?

507
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

508
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: Wow?

509
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: I mean obviously not a lot of belief there. The way, guys,

510
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,039
stay tuned. Two more legs of our three leg parlay

511
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:34,440
still to come. Keep those comments coming in. Of course,

512
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,000
we always support. The easiest way to support the show

513
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:39,880
is by smashing that like button and clicking subscribe. But

514
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,240
let's talk about Pitt West Virginia here. Yeah wow, they

515
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,039
are betting this one like they already know the score

516
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,920
your West Virginia obviously taking a ton of money up

517
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,279
from two and a half to six and a half.

518
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:53,160
What's funny is, before we went live, I was noting

519
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,680
how much the market liked the under, and I agree

520
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:56,960
with that.

521
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 3: Rob.

522
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,799
Speaker 2: Actually maybe you know, I know that you you are

523
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,400
kind of our resident totals expert, so I won't talk

524
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,079
too much about it, and I'll leave the side to you,

525
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,920
because yeah, wow, this is that's a crazy move on

526
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480
the side. But I know they clearly there's some skepticism

527
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,160
about this pit side. They have scored seventy four points

528
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,759
in all three games this season, but we all know,

529
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:22,039
and we've talked about it before on this show. West

530
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,759
Virginia now coached by Ross Hodge. He comes over from

531
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:28,920
North Texas. He's bringing over those same principles, defense, rebounding,

532
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:33,319
slow pace. So I don't think we're going to continue

533
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:34,960
to see Pitt shoot the ball as well as they

534
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,920
have against their first three lesser opponents. Also, Brandon Cummings

535
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,240
did not play Monday. Is that something I.

536
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: Mean, he has to be out, he has to Yeah,

537
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,000
but that's still a pretty big move, right, I mean

538
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:50,200
even with his absence, I mean, whoa, that's.

539
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:52,319
Speaker 2: Uh, it's it's great to move on the side.

540
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

541
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, although, hey the Cavs, how about that rather our

542
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,240
peat squad beating the heat last night? But yeah, yeah,

543
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,920
this is a uh, it's it's obviously, Look, the market

544
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,119
loves WU. They love the under here, and I think

545
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,720
those two bets are correlated, Rob Veno, if you like Virginia,

546
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:12,599
you like the under.

547
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:19,559
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, absolutely, Although Pitt, you know under Jeff capele Is.

548
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,440
Go check their pace numbers and they're not playing quick.

549
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,359
They've been efficient offensively. They're a way better three point

550
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,640
shooting team than they are two. And West Virginia has

551
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,599
defended both the three and the two real well this year.

552
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,880
So you got two teams that want to go a

553
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,680
little bit slow. One team's more efficient offensively than the other,

554
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,000
that being Pitt. But the injury concerned. I mean, lines

555
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:46,559
don't go four points that quickly unless there's injury concern here.

556
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:51,200
So perhaps it's comings And obviously side and total both

557
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:55,839
moving would be the correlation here. The Ross Hodge thing

558
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,000
is it's out of the bag, right, I mean, we

559
00:27:58,079 --> 00:27:59,880
knew it right off the bat. Now you know, I'm

560
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,160
to show another separate wager talk show on Sunday where

561
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,480
guys who handicapped football know all about Ross Hodge. So

562
00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:13,359
it's it's out there. It's beyond just college basketball insiders

563
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,599
who know what's going on with WVU and the question becomes,

564
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,440
when do the totals become too low on West Virginia

565
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,680
where we can punch back and say, you know what,

566
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,720
it was difficult. I have to tell you, guys, it

567
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:31,359
was difficult with North Texas, where Ross Hodge came from.

568
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,039
You never really know, you know, you'd be staring at

569
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:34,759
a one twenty seven and a half. Man, Do I

570
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:36,359
really want to play over one twenty seven and.

571
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 3: A half With North Texas?

572
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,799
Speaker 4: It's so difficult to get to. So that's a question

573
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:43,720
for down the road. I would think here, though, without

574
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:47,960
knowing the specifics of the injury, for the time being,

575
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,359
this has to be a pass. We've probably told you

576
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,960
as much as we can tell you about how in

577
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:57,480
theory to handicap this game. Two slow paced teams, one

578
00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:01,680
team that depends on threes for most they're better shooting threes,

579
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,160
and the other side defends the three really, really well.

580
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,160
I don't know that West Virginia's put it all together

581
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,960
offensively yet. And listen, it's the backyard brawl in football.

582
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,119
That doesn't mean it's not a heated rivalry in basketball too.

583
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,759
This thing is liable to take on a defensive nature

584
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,799
to it, So maybe the under is still in play here, guys,

585
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,759
I think as we talk it out here, maybe the

586
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:26,799
under is still in play at one thirty three and

587
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,200
a half.

588
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:29,799
Speaker 2: And keep pointing out in the chat that it's a

589
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:32,680
double revenge spot. It's a double revenge spot as well

590
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:36,359
for DUBVU, so that that might be something else.

591
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,359
Speaker 1: So I want to add one more thing here because

592
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,240
I was just kind of going over my notes and

593
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:47,200
I jotted down the Cummings potential injury and I said likely,

594
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,400
you know, And I did this when the line was four, okay,

595
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,680
and so I figured that was the Cummings, you know,

596
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:58,759
being out. It is now seven, and like, all I'll

597
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:03,279
say is West Virginia for how great they have looked

598
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,039
defensively to start the year and how you know, obviously

599
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:08,000
that's that's Ross Hodge.

600
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: We just talked about that. The offense hasn't been great.

601
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they kind of they kind of like,

602
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,640
you know, like barely beat Campbell.

603
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: I know, they ended up pulling away, ended up winning

604
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,359
by eight.

605
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: Only scored sixty nine against Lehigh, like and the other

606
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:27,440
team they played is Mount Saint Mary's, who is probably

607
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,000
a you know, ninth or tenth place in the MAC

608
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:32,799
type team this year. So like my whole thing is like,

609
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,000
even if you take a starter off this pit team, I.

610
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: Don't know that they're and I and I am not.

611
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,559
Speaker 1: I don't think Pitt's any good at all, but like

612
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:41,599
are they worse than that?

613
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:41,759
Speaker 2: Like?

614
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Should they really be catching a touchdown in this game?

615
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,240
That's like I think that move is crazy?

616
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:47,759
Speaker 3: Now?

617
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: Am I crazy enough to like punch back at plus seven?

618
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,559
Knowing I probably don't have Brandon Cummings? I don't know,

619
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,880
maybe the better way to go. I think I'm with you, Rob.

620
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640
I think the under hasn't moved as much as I

621
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,480
would have expected it to relative to that side move,

622
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,240
So I think that's the way it would lean as well.

623
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:08,559
Speaker 2: Yet, Cummings, just for those who may be unaware, he's

624
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,279
an eighteen and a half point per game scorer. You

625
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,839
referenced that Mount Saint Mary's game, Trigg there, that was

626
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,400
I believe, as a matter of fact, yess it was.

627
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,119
It was my portion of the parlay of the day

628
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,400
that day. The under West Virginia, all three of their

629
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,720
games have gone under those numbers were one thirty six

630
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:25,440
and a half, one thirty eight and a half, and

631
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:29,119
one forty so interestingly enough, the totals were going up

632
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,799
each of their games. Now it comes way now it

633
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:34,200
comes way back down. Lowest total of the year on

634
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:37,200
a West Virginia game with the line move, and it

635
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,480
is also the lowest total of the year for any

636
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:45,079
PIT game as well. All three PIT games so far,

637
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:50,799
I've had a total north of so market has corrected

638
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:51,359
itself here.

639
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I believe that is Colgate great Nelly Cummings

640
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,039
younger brother, who also I believe, transferred to PIT for

641
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,480
his final year of eligibility. So some great times out

642
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,400
here in central New York watching those Nelly Cummings Colgate teams,

643
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,359
which were very, very good, actually Colgates probably I think

644
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,240
they probably went to the tournament five six years in

645
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:13,559
a row.

646
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: So neither here nor there.

647
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: They don't play today, but a team that does play

648
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,680
that people seem to be asking about, and I was interested.

649
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:23,720
Brian and I started talking about this one a little

650
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,119
bit off air. So let's go hit this game. No Name,

651
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,440
Sam says, do you all think Saint Thomas covers against

652
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:32,079
Green Bay?

653
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: He likes them.

654
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: First half, Brian, I'll throw it to you because we

655
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,160
kind of already sort of started to kick this back

656
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,079
and forth. I know you're not a Doug Gottlieb guy,

657
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,839
but no, pretty big move right here from the open.

658
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

659
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: I guess that's just the theme. We're gonna say that

660
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:48,880
on every game here early season, that hey, you kind

661
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,680
of like the side and guess what, so does everyone

662
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,519
else in America and the betting world. Look, I don't

663
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:56,319
want to really pass up an opportunity to come on

664
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,119
the way to talk YouTube channel trash Doug gottlie By.

665
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,079
You know, I used to call him the Trent Dilfer

666
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:03,079
of college basketball. You really can't call him that a

667
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:05,680
new workers. Trent Dilfer's not in college football. He's been fired.

668
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,680
Green Bay has been horrible defensively under Gottlieb. Now are

669
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:13,200
they gonna be a little bit better this year? It's

670
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,799
hard to be worse than they were last year. The

671
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:20,599
issue here in this matchup St. Thomas, they play fast,

672
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,640
they don't turn the ball over. I think Saint Thomas

673
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,839
team total over might be How to look at this

674
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,039
game that way, You know, you don't have to concern

675
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:37,039
yourself as much with the way the spread has moved.

676
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,440
I just, you know, I look at this matchup trick

677
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,559
and I just don't see anyway, and I see Rob Noddings,

678
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:44,119
so perhaps I feel even better now. I don't see

679
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,519
any way that Saint Thomas doesn't get theirs at home here.

680
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:51,519
I think they put up some points.

681
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was really quick. I'll just endorse that Bryan St.

682
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,039
Thom is such an efficient offensive team. Yeah, and sometimes

683
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,359
we get a little confused when we play totals over.

684
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:05,920
Oh well, they don't play fast enough, they don't do

685
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,039
this quick enough. There's not enough possessions. Listen, offensive efficiency

686
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:12,119
counts just as much. You can do a lot more

687
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:17,840
with ten less possessions than some teams. I'm looking at

688
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,719
the board here. Florida International, for example, can do with

689
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,760
more possessions under Jeremy Balod run around like a bunch

690
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,280
of chickens with your head cut off and never put

691
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,079
it in a hoop. That's something different. So yeah, Sat

692
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,360
tom Is just look go back to last year when

693
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,719
they were racking up eighty plus almost all the time.

694
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,599
So and of course that was in Summing League played

695
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,960
for the most part. But still I think it's a

696
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,719
matchup that just favors them because they don't give the

697
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,679
ball away in Green Bay. And I'm not going to

698
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,199
say any I can't say anything more than what you

699
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,159
guys have already said about Got Leave, so I won't.

700
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: There's a lot of you go to this Green Bay.

701
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,719
I mean, I know it's only a couple games in,

702
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,800
but they were bad defense. You go to their Ken

703
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,119
Palm page Green Bay. There is eight of red in

704
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:04,480
the defense of column, a lot like it's pretty rare

705
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,440
you see this much, this many red boxes lit up

706
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,639
in the defensive column for a team.

707
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: So I'll say, I want to say two things about

708
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,239
this game, and then I'm gonna go to Rob and

709
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,519
probably put him on the spot to see if his

710
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,960
parlay leg is ready, just you know, seeing where we're

711
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,159
at in the show, So just giving him a friendly

712
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,199
heads up for that. But what I'll say about I'm

713
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:27,000
going to say two things that are a little bit pro.

714
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,519
Speaker 3: Gott leave here.

715
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:30,039
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go against the grain on this one.

716
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:33,400
I think his team is better than it was last year,

717
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:37,559
just in general. Two, I think he probably learned a

718
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,920
lot from last year was I think it was a

719
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,920
wake up call that he was a little bit over

720
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,440
his skis, you know, taking over a college basketball program,

721
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,400
and I think he becomes a better coach. Because of that,

722
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,519
I actually am a little bit higher than the market

723
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:56,400
on green Bay. So I had this number right where

724
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,880
it opened at ten and a half. At fourteen, I

725
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,440
could only take green Bay. But I don't really want

726
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,440
to do that, Like that's just you know. I took

727
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:08,079
green Bay the other day plus seven. I got in

728
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:11,400
in a good number against Buffalo and I was mostly

729
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,360
okay with what I saw.

730
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: They ended up pushing that number.

731
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: I think green Bay is going to be a good

732
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,880
team to bet on a lot of times this year.

733
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,719
I think the market's quite a bit off on them.

734
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:25,159
But Saint Thomas is sort of dude to smash someone like.

735
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:27,320
They haven't had the best start to their season. I

736
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,760
know they probably thought they could have won that Washington

737
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,480
State game Army kind of like that was shocking Army.

738
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,320
I thought Army would probably lose that game by twenty five.

739
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: That was somehow single digits.

740
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: So again, I think I think take Saint Thomas a

741
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,360
little overrated right now, green Bay a little underrated, but.

742
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,039
Speaker 3: Not the spot.

743
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna mess with that. So I'll just

744
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,920
lead that there and let's get rob. Do you have

745
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,400
you figured out what you want? To use for the

746
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,800
parlay or do you have a game that you want

747
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,039
to throw out there for us.

748
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:58,679
Speaker 4: Well, I've got to, so I'll make a split decision

749
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,719
and give you one. And just for the benefit of

750
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,440
those watching us live, I'll tell you that the two

751
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:11,119
I'm deciding between are both team totals, one being Michigan

752
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,079
State today against this San Jose State defense which has

753
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:20,199
been horrible, and the other, hopefully by you bets, is

754
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,079
here with us because I think that's the way I'm

755
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,559
gonna go here. I'm gonna play this LSU team total

756
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:26,519
over eighty nine and a half their third game, four

757
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:30,119
ninety plus. Obviously, I just talked about Jerry Ballard and

758
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,800
FIU rapid rapid pace. LSU is not gonna back down

759
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,880
from it. How about guys, FIU is giving up fifty

760
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,880
percent from the three point arc not playing and LSU,

761
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,519
by the way, is top fifty three point shooting team,

762
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:47,239
so you're gonna get paced again. I've talked about open

763
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,320
floor enough. Usually that creates wide open threes. Guys can't

764
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,519
find their man. LSU likely sink some Nebraska, which you

765
00:37:55,639 --> 00:38:00,719
really wouldn't consider a big time offensively three point shooting team.

766
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Seventeen of thirty four against FIU, and Nebraska hung ninety

767
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,880
six on this team. So LSU has already proven against

768
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,000
a couple of teams that are, you know, defensively right

769
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:15,119
in this FIU category, that they can get to ninety plus.

770
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,239
So I'm going to go that way.

771
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,559
Speaker 3: Guys.

772
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:18,599
Speaker 4: I think the number I'm staring at here is eighty

773
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,119
nine and a half for LSU's team total. I'll take

774
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:27,000
it over and it's say, what do they call it?

775
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,880
In a horse race? A little almost dead heat where

776
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,840
photo finished where we had to go and make a

777
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,199
fast decision between that and Michigan State because San Jose

778
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,519
State going to the Breslin Center here tonight probably in

779
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,480
a little bit of trouble defensively against that team.

780
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: Guys.

781
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to hog up all our time, but

782
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,280
I did Adam want to get to We've talked about

783
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,920
a lot of coaching changes and real quick, I don't

784
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,960
want to get on a soapbox, but let me just

785
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:59,480
say that if you take cumuatively what we've said here

786
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,639
over the eight days on this show and apply it

787
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:07,840
to your future college basketball handicapping. We talked about Will

788
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,920
Wade right, I talked about Will Wade and his obsession

789
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,679
with making statements every time he hits the coaching Floyd

790
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,360
since he got wire tapped at LSU and thrown out

791
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,119
and in Adam, I think you've talked excessively about NC

792
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,519
Greensboro not being all that great this year. You put

793
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:27,400
two and two together and last night you see what

794
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,119
NC State did to NC Greensboro. So, guys, take what

795
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,480
we're saying, try and apply it. That's what we do.

796
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:38,199
That's how you handicapped so great outside of the parlay itself.

797
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,199
Just we're trying to give you tidbits that can be

798
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,920
useful down the road, and I'm going to try and

799
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,280
get one out here for the for the extra board here, guys,

800
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,760
coaching change. We've talked about almost all of them. But

801
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,639
let's get into Alabama A and M real fast. I

802
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:56,039
know it's Alabama A and M, but they played Charleston

803
00:39:56,079 --> 00:40:00,239
Southern time. Alabama A and M. They took Gramblings head

804
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,079
coach this season Dante Jackson, who is a guy who

805
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:07,840
plays the exact opposite way. There's a polar opposite style

806
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,000
contrast here. You take a team in A and M

807
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,440
that wanted to go fast last year and now you

808
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,400
turn them into one of the slowest paced teams in

809
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,480
the country. A lot of times you're holdovers. Guys don't

810
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,000
want to play that way. They're at that school for

811
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,400
a reason, so they're fly to the portal, or if

812
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,360
they get left behind, they don't get picked up in

813
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,880
the portal. They have to sit here and play this

814
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:33,559
molasses style of offense, and you don't exactly get the

815
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,760
best out of their talents. He did bring some guys

816
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,559
from Grambling with him to help create this culture, new

817
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:41,960
culture here at Alabama A and M. And they're gonna

818
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,840
play Charleston Southern, who loves to get up and down.

819
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,159
I just think that fast teams get frustrated by extremely

820
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,719
slow teams. The point to this handycap. When I saw

821
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,079
this number early, one fifty five and a half total

822
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:00,000
market scotten to it. It's one fifty three and a half.

823
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:02,840
Now just pay attention a little bit this year to

824
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,000
what Alabama A and M.

825
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 3: Does.

826
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,079
Speaker 4: Result wise, I think this game might be under I

827
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,599
think the market's onto something here. But again, it's just

828
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,280
another thing we're trying to point out here. As the

829
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,760
season progresses, maybe we can look at Alabama A and M.

830
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,360
Before everybody gets to it, and being where they are

831
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,320
in the swack, not everybody will get to it. So

832
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,000
this thing and under trend with A and M may

833
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,239
just go and go and go on the tracks for

834
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,719
a while before odds makers derail it.

835
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: That's excellent stuff, Rob, And just to clarify your parlay,

836
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,000
leg is going to be LSU team total over.

837
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: What was the number?

838
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: I have?

839
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: Eighty nine and a half unless you guys can tell

840
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,360
me different, I'm showing a and I'm trying to use

841
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,440
a consensus number here, guys, eighty nine and a half.

842
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

843
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: And we'll double check that at the end of the

844
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:54,119
show and we officially lock it in. One thing, I

845
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:56,000
will say a lot of people jumping into the chat,

846
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,400
which we very much appreciate. We already broke down the

847
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,159
Central mission in South Alabama game that goes at eleven

848
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,599
even with the show, even when the show is live,

849
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:08,440
you should be able to go back, especially if you're

850
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,159
on the YouTube channel and rewatch that. So people asking

851
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:16,000
for Perdue Alabama, Central, Michigan, South Alabama, we've already talked

852
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:19,000
about those. You can go you know, and utilize the

853
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,880
on demand feature, which this show is every Day Live

854
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,760
on demand, tell him where to find it, Brian.

855
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,639
Speaker 2: Well, I'll even I'll even be a little bit now,

856
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:28,519
I'll take it a step further. We took We talked

857
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:30,559
about Perdue Obama right at the outside of the show, guys.

858
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:32,360
And if you want to go to Central Michigan South

859
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,599
Alabama was at the fourteen minute and three seconds oh

860
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:38,360
the Timestamp game, you could jump right there. That's that's

861
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440
where it was. So though they were the first two

862
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,360
games we broke down on the show today again, Remember

863
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,159
ten am Monday through Friday.

864
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,159
Speaker 4: This show is equipped, guys, It's equipped with everything times things.

865
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,559
Speaker 2: Should we talk about the Michigan State I feel because

866
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,920
Rob mentioned the Michigan State game, should we mention that,

867
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:58,679
let's do it. Yeah, you and I were just over

868
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,639
the weekend. And it's a ranked team. Obviously, I think

869
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:04,480
it's the only other ranked team in action today besides

870
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:09,960
perduing Bbama. We're playing each other. Is that?

871
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,559
Speaker 4: I mean?

872
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,119
Speaker 2: I guess it's just for like I couldn't lay it

873
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:15,880
here is this? I mean they've had enough time off

874
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,280
that I guess maybe it's not a true letdown spot

875
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,400
for Michigan State. I mean that that place was rocket

876
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,039
on Saturday night against Arkansas, and that was a heck

877
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:30,280
of a performance I thought by Michigan State. I don't know,

878
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,440
like I just I hate the idea of backing a

879
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,280
team laying a huge number like this after a big

880
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,480
win like that. But Rob kind of San Jose State

881
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:42,199
is not exactly a team that I want to run

882
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,119
to the window to bet either, So I was just

883
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,840
interested in your in drigging, like in your thoughts having

884
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,960
just caught this Michigan State team in person. I know

885
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,559
you think Michigan State maybe a tinge overrated as well

886
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,280
from talking to you after the game, So you know

887
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,800
your thoughts here, cause it's a decision I'm wrestling with

888
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,400
whether or not you can fire on the dog or not.

889
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:05,079
Speaker 1: I'll start this and I'll go to Rob because I

890
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:07,360
know he's got comments on the total, and I don't

891
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,679
think that we're necessarily going to contradict each other either.

892
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,559
So again, because my volume is so much higher in

893
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:19,119
college basketball, I'm a little bit more open to giving

894
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,159
out client plays on the show because I know I'm

895
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:24,679
going to have I'm probably gonna have more client plays

896
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,800
than I talk about on the show, especially if they're

897
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:30,639
the three percent variety. So I'll throw a second one

898
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,480
out because I've already got three posted for today, so

899
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:35,840
I'll throw a second one out. I did take the

900
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,320
plus twenty four and a half with San Jose State,

901
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,000
and Brian, you kind of touched on you touched on

902
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:44,639
some of my reasonings, so I disagreed with the move

903
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,920
up to twenty four and a half.

904
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: I was I was lower. I think I was that

905
00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:49,760
like eighteen or nineteen on the number.

906
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: The spot is definitely not sort of ideal for a

907
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Michigan State like runaway blowout type performance. You just had

908
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:02,800
Arkansas of Kentucky coming up, so that's like, you know,

909
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,119
it would qualify I think a little bit as like

910
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:08,360
a sandwich tight letdown spot. But I want to go

911
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,079
back to San Jose State for a second because, yeah,

912
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,760
even though and I'm sure Rob's gonna gonna talk to

913
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,320
us about their lack of defense, but you know, generally,

914
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,320
I think they are a little bit undervalued. I thought

915
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,280
Rob talked about Santa Barbara being like a team that

916
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,639
he's sort of in on, and I felt like they

917
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:30,239
played pretty good in that game hung around. I believe

918
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,039
they covered. Believe they covered the number there or they

919
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:35,079
covered the number in one of their games so far.

920
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:38,559
So San Jose States played twice. They've been a big

921
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:41,800
dog to Utah, which I believe they covered the Utah

922
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,519
game and didn't cover the Santa barbar game, but still

923
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:48,480
like still played Santa Barbara to an eleven point game

924
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:52,519
they won the second half. For what it's worth, point

925
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,400
is the point, and I didn't even make my point yet.

926
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,199
They are one of the teams that had guys kicked

927
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,760
off the team last year and had people act like

928
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,760
Tim Miles actively had guys trying to sabotage his team,

929
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,159
And I feel like these types of teams are still,

930
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,840
in some scenarios undervalued in the market, and I would

931
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,800
point to San Jose State being one of those teams. Now,

932
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,800
I don't think you know again, this is we're asking

933
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,199
them to cover twenty four and a half.

934
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:19,519
Speaker 3: Right.

935
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: We saw Georgetown last night come off this big win

936
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,800
over Maryland and struggle to beat a very bad Binghamton team.

937
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: So.

938
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: It's similar. Twenty four and a half seems like a

939
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,519
big number. Even if Rob's team total gets there, and

940
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:37,360
I'll kick it to him, I still think I cover

941
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,199
twenty four and a half.

942
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: So twenty four and a half is a play for me.

943
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's you know, that's the point, Adam, Right.

944
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,840
I mean, if Michigan State gets to eighty four, you're

945
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,880
only asking San Jose to get sixty.

946
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: And you win the game.

947
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: So I don't know that you're asking the dog to

948
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:54,760
do all that much. And I think San Jose State's

949
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,199
ability to cover is just it coincides with their style.

950
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:03,440
They're not going to run themselves into deficits. They're gonna

951
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:06,360
methodically play the game and that tends to keep it,

952
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:08,960
which is what makes their you know, eighty four and

953
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,440
eighty five points allowed in their first two games even

954
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,800
more alarming. And the teams that they played are good, right,

955
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,599
Santa Barbara's good, Utah's good. Those gyms are tough at

956
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,599
Michigan State the same way, I think, from your guys standpoint,

957
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:27,920
which side situationally totally makes sense. Stylistically totally makes sense.

958
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,679
If I'm only messing with the team total here on

959
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,280
Michigan State side, I think Gizzo might be able to

960
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,079
get it out of his team. For what it's worth,

961
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:38,960
they're giving up sixty two and a half percent field

962
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,480
goals on the season. San Jose State and they get

963
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,199
crushed on the defensive boards. I mean, the one thing

964
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,159
you don't want to let Michigan State do is get

965
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:50,480
second chances. You can't walk in there three hundred and

966
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,280
second in the nation in defensive rebounding and think that

967
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,920
you're gonna get away with that from a points allowed standpoint,

968
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:59,880
So I think we're kind of saying the same thing

969
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,679
from different perspective. Side, They in total San Jose State

970
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:08,920
against situationally stylistically more than able to keep within twenty

971
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,519
four and a half. But Michigan State, considering the fundamental

972
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:17,519
advantages on the floor, more than capable of scoring eighty

973
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:19,000
three points.

974
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 3: In this game.

975
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,639
Speaker 4: So I see that game now eighty three and a half,

976
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:26,039
so you need eighty four. So yeah, like I said,

977
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:27,760
I think we're saying the same things here. Let's keep

978
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,920
a look out and see how Michigan State performs here.

979
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,119
What is so can get out of his team in

980
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,960
what is a difficult situation as spot play is not

981
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:36,239
good for them.

982
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: Right, Michigan Michigan's Well, I just I wanted to bring

983
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,679
this up real quick, Michigan State from three, I kept

984
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,000
bringing this up to you on Saturday. I said, how

985
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:48,559
are they winning this game with this horrible three point shooting?

986
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,000
But and you know what was it? It was Ethan

987
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:53,280
actually the next day who he hung out with the

988
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,760
Boyan Green game. He follows the Michigan State. He's like,

989
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:58,480
that's a regular thing, you know, especially early in the year,

990
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,079
that this team does struggle to shoot three. It's it's

991
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:04,199
but I think they they've proven they can get theirs

992
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:06,320
to each of your points. Michigan State has proven they

993
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,679
can get theirs right, even with the bad three point shooting.

994
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,400
But if you don't shoot the three, well, it's really

995
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,840
hard to cover twenty four and a half, right, So

996
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,719
I think we're all locks at Michigan State will get theirs. However,

997
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,119
you know, winning by this big of margin when you

998
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:24,000
don't shoot the three, well, very difficult to do. And

999
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:26,280
how interested is a winning by a big margin?

1000
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,519
Speaker 3: Two?

1001
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: But my question for you was essentially that I was

1002
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,920
going to ask you if you were too many spartas

1003
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,079
in to remember you point like the fact that they

1004
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:38,960
were getting good looks against Arkansas they just couldn't make them.

1005
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,199
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you say that the three.

1006
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:43,199
Speaker 1: Point shooting has to be far more I mean, they're

1007
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:45,159
gonna have to knock them down to cover this number

1008
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:49,159
at a far greater rate. Like they were still generating

1009
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,079
decent looks against Arkansas, just couldn't hit one. Do they

1010
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,199
just magically start draining threes here?

1011
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:57,119
Speaker 3: I thought Florida might. They didn't.

1012
00:49:57,559 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. I mean, you know

1013
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,599
a lot of times we all into the pattern of, oh,

1014
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:05,559
they this team shot you know, horribly from three last game,

1015
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:07,800
so that's they're gonna bounce back now. Well, some teams

1016
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,760
are just not great at shooting the three. Michigan State

1017
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,960
has proven that they're not particularly great at shooting the

1018
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:16,920
three over the last several seasons, so they can still score.

1019
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,079
To Rob's point, I think they will, but the three

1020
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:23,320
is not there. Fourteen, Yes, that that's sparti Ipa was

1021
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,400
really good. If you're at the bresilents that are fourteen dollars,

1022
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,280
I mean, those are professional prices. But it was worth it.

1023
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,480
The sparti Ipa. That was my winner.

1024
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: The wak we were strong too.

1025
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: It's a good thing we were staying in east Land

1026
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:35,079
after most let me just.

1027
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: Say that they were. They were. I think those are

1028
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,320
like seven percenters at least.

1029
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:41,159
Speaker 2: Well, they were they were.

1030
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: Cats to your point, Michigan state number three, nineteen in

1031
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,679
the nation and three point shooting. Last year, they won

1032
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,480
one game by twenty five points. They played thirty some

1033
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:57,239
odd games. They won one game. They beat Niagara ninety

1034
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,440
six to sixty. It's the only game they won by

1035
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,599
this March. So how they score this year the same

1036
00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:05,280
way they score, and especially against a team like this

1037
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,280
is probably about stick back, second chance layups, foule shots, whatever.

1038
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:11,840
But yeah, when you only cover, when you only win

1039
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,039
one game by twenty five, who the heck wants to

1040
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,079
lay twenty four and a half with a team like.

1041
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:19,639
Speaker 1: That, Brian, I gotta I gotta throw this to you

1042
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,159
because you you made a point yesterday about about swack teams.

1043
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,519
For the most part, the crazy, crazy schedule scheduling, they

1044
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:31,280
go through the fact that they never get games at

1045
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,280
home again unless it's like against like Mississippi. They play

1046
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,880
like you, Bible studies you or whatever, like I.

1047
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,519
Speaker 3: Think I saw someone playing the other day.

1048
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: Uh, Grambling has a home game against Southern Miss right here.

1049
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,480
That's interesting to me, League Show says Grambling minus one.

1050
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:51,000
Best bet I made a number for this. I've actually

1051
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:54,840
got Southern miss probably a minus four. But I'll ask you,

1052
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,960
am I not giving Grambling enough credit for a rare

1053
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:02,400
home game here? Yes, we saw Longwood get that kind

1054
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,639
of rare, big non conferne game, and they played very

1055
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:08,960
well against James Madison. So I'm just interested to see

1056
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,800
if you either have any takes about this one.

1057
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: And I know you kind of were.

1058
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:15,599
Speaker 1: Talking swack basketball yesterday, so so what do we think?

1059
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: So I do agree with Grambling being a short favorite

1060
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:22,679
here at home, and yes it is a rare spot.

1061
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: You know that.

1062
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: That's where I have pretty fared up now Grambling. You know,

1063
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,800
we've talked about coaching change as well. They had they

1064
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:33,559
lost their head coach to a conference rival. So I

1065
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:35,320
don't know. I mean, yeah, I mean I I how

1066
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,159
much does it does that matter? The home court? I mean,

1067
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,440
it shouldn't be just a one factor handicap. But I

1068
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,000
I kind of made I made this minus too, so

1069
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:49,119
it's not a huge value. As I break down my pie,

1070
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:51,159
as I do a quick math with the power ratings,

1071
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:57,159
so a slightly into Grambling, you know, you look at

1072
00:52:57,159 --> 00:53:00,519
what these teams have done. Southern Miss coming off a

1073
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:03,079
close loss to South Carolina last.

1074
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,639
Speaker 3: Time, and.

1075
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: That and that begs the question, what do they have

1076
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,239
left in the tank here?

1077
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 3: You know what?

1078
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:16,199
Speaker 2: Whereas Grambling? Uh, they're off a win at Howard okay,

1079
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:18,719
uh an outright win. They were four and a half

1080
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,559
point dogs there. They come in probably with a little

1081
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:24,960
bit more you know that they're feeling themselves a little more,

1082
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,639
a little more confidence if you will, so, I yeah,

1083
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,119
you twist them if this isn't a game, I'm gonna play, guys.

1084
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:32,840
But if you twisted my arm and forced me to,

1085
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,199
I hope you don't, I would take Grambling.

1086
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, guys, real quick, I'll just jump in

1087
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,920
as somebody who on a personal level had to play

1088
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:46,440
on South Carolina's team total the other night, and Southern

1089
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:50,079
Miss had that team by double digits in the second half,

1090
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:52,679
and after this bet is dead in the water. Miraculously,

1091
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,360
South Carolina at home was able to come back and

1092
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,719
tie that thing and push it into overtime, so the

1093
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:04,880
bet cashed. I think if you're talking about personnel between

1094
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,679
these two, I mean also, Southern Miss has played Buffalo.

1095
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,679
Buffalo is a three and oh team. They went to

1096
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,679
Buffalo and played them tough as well. If if you're

1097
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,280
looking at personnel in this game. There's no way in

1098
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,679
heck you're playing Grambling on their home floor or not.

1099
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,719
Southern Miss the better team. But if you're playing situationally

1100
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,239
overtime loss that you had one close game with but

1101
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,760
you know, these things do start to It's kind of

1102
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,360
early in the year to say that they add up

1103
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,039
and they multiply, but it gets tough. I think Southern

1104
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:38,920
Miss the better team, Grambling awfully dependent upon the three.

1105
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,440
Southern Miss gives up a lot of threes, so we'll

1106
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,840
see if they can cash in on that. But it's

1107
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,239
an interesting handicaps. I can see the situational side and

1108
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,559
I can see the fundamental side.

1109
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: I'll say one more thing is keep brought them up,

1110
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,920
Jay Ladner, Southern Miss. Yeah, that was that was Southeastern

1111
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,559
Louisiana's coach before you got the Southern Miss job years ago.

1112
00:54:58,159 --> 00:55:04,079
And I am per personally, like cautiously optimistic for Southern

1113
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:07,079
Miss relative to like like they're getting picked at the

1114
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:10,960
bottom of the sun belt. Okay, And I look like

1115
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:14,480
he's so he's playing like thirteen guys a game right now,

1116
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:17,880
Like he has a large roster. One of the guys

1117
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,239
that I believe is on his team. But hasn't played yet,

1118
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,119
probably because it ties back into the investigations from last year.

1119
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: Is Landon Glasper.

1120
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: Who was one of the guys that got kicked off

1121
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,199
NCA and t who is a very prolific scorer. So

1122
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:36,760
I saw that he was in practice with them. He

1123
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,760
has not played yet, like, but he has. I mean

1124
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:42,800
he's got like fourteen I literally think he's put like

1125
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,159
fourteen guys in games so far this year just playing anyway,

1126
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,360
I mean a huge bench, and you have to wonder, like,

1127
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,559
so I guess I'll leave it at like the fact

1128
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,199
that like I'm not gonna bet against them because I'm higher,

1129
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,199
Like like I said, I made the number I think four,

1130
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:00,840
I'm gonna kind of like, look, I'm actually kicking myself

1131
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,079
or not taking the points. With Southern Miss against South Carolina,

1132
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:05,960
I was, I was way off on that number two.

1133
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,320
I thought there was big value there and there clearly

1134
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,199
was as they sent it to over overtime.

1135
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 3: I think Southern.

1136
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:16,199
Speaker 1: Miss out classes Grambling, probably wins here, but and they

1137
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:18,599
are a team that I will look to, uh, you know,

1138
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,159
to to fire on going forward. I think I think

1139
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:25,960
they might have something going there before we close out.

1140
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:27,840
Quick thoughts this is kind of the last game on

1141
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,320
the board National TV. We haven't talked about it yet.

1142
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:33,360
I'll go to you first, Rob Any, Kansas State Cal

1143
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,239
thoughts for you, nine pm, My National.

1144
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 4: My initial thought, My initial thought was to play this

1145
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,599
game over that total has moved, guys nine points out.

1146
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,519
I think Mark Madsen when he was at Utah Valley,

1147
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,400
they played a hectic pace, and they played a hectic

1148
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,000
style that leads to opportunities in case. State has been

1149
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:59,280
really really good offensively so far this year. So you know,

1150
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,519
opening number fifty four, you kind of like total but

1151
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,239
over but here one sixty three in the market's probably

1152
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:07,960
priced me out.

1153
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, just real quick, and then I'm gonna just drop

1154
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,159
my parlay leg to complete the parlay. It's a game

1155
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:18,840
we've already talked about, guys, So I'm not gonna do

1156
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,679
a huge breakdown on that. But you know, as far

1157
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:23,639
as cal, Kansas State goes, Cal off to its best

1158
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:25,679
starts twenty nineteen, three to oh straight up, three to

1159
00:57:25,719 --> 00:57:28,360
zero against the number Mark Matts and his Rob alluded to.

1160
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,960
He's got them believing in Berkeley, but it is a

1161
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,480
tough test going out to Manhattan. I think the question

1162
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:34,920
is what's gonna hold up better Cal's defense or Kansas

1163
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,920
State's offense and the total movie. Yeah, I don't know

1164
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,159
that that's that's pretty crazy, but my parlay leg is

1165
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:45,079
gonna be that Saint Thomas team total over eighty two

1166
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,199
and a half. I mentioned all the red if you

1167
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,199
go to the Green Bay's Ken Palm page, all the

1168
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:55,239
red that is lit up under defense for Green Bay.

1169
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:57,440
Here's just a few things. Three hundred and fifty six.

1170
00:57:57,519 --> 00:58:00,360
Then defensive efficiency three hundred and forty eight, effect the

1171
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,960
field goal percentage allowed three hundred and sixty second, and

1172
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,599
turnover percentage three hundred and fifty second, and free throw

1173
00:58:05,639 --> 00:58:09,800
percentage a free throw attempts allowed three hundred and fifty

1174
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,280
third and two point percentage of the teams are shooting

1175
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,199
sixty seven point seven percent inside the arc ats Green

1176
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:17,800
Bay they're three hundred and fifty eighth and steal percentage

1177
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,440
as well. So there's just really nothing. This team is

1178
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,800
doing very well defensively, and they didn't do anything very

1179
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,639
well defensively last year. Will they improve over time? Trigg, Maybe,

1180
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,719
but not tonight Saint Thomas. The Tommys get theirs points wise,

1181
00:58:33,679 --> 00:58:35,039
and we don't have to worry about them covering an

1182
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:37,480
inflated number. Just get over eighty two and a half points,

1183
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:38,360
thank you very much.

1184
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: You know, they just open a really nice new building

1185
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,360
that I believe that game will be in. I'll throw

1186
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,119
one thing out there about Kansas State CAL. I don't

1187
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:50,119
like either of those teams. I'm hoping Kansas State blows

1188
00:58:50,159 --> 00:58:53,079
them out so I can fade Kansas State against Tulsa

1189
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:55,880
on Tuesday, because I think Kansas State just chucks threes

1190
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:58,639
and they don't really have much else outside of that.

1191
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,719
I wish I had more confidence in CAL. I think

1192
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,840
Cal's got just atrocious. If I had more confidence in them,

1193
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,000
I would take the points. I don't, so I will

1194
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:09,360
root for Kansas State to win big so I can

1195
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,400
fade them next week, and we'll be here next week.

1196
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,960
I'll remind you on the day I believe that's Tuesday

1197
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,760
game next week, and I'll also remind you what the

1198
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,559
parlay leg is because we got to get off here

1199
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:23,000
before eleven am, so I'll go Cornell minus five. I

1200
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,119
gave it out to clients at four and a half. Actually,

1201
00:59:26,119 --> 00:59:28,000
you know what, No, four and a half. I'm seeing

1202
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,760
four and a halfs at Caesars Bet MGM. There's enough

1203
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,320
four and a half, so we're gonna go Cornell minus

1204
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:38,079
four and a half. LSU team total over eighty nine

1205
00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:40,719
and a half for ROB and Saint Thomas team total

1206
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,440
over eighty two and a half for BP six to one.

1207
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,599
Parlay again, Saint Thomas team total over eighty two and

1208
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:49,840
a half, LSU team total over eighty nine and a

1209
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,480
half Cornell minus five. That's your parlay for Thursday. It

1210
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:56,480
is actually Thursday, Tomorrow's Friday. We'll be back with the

1211
00:59:56,519 --> 01:00:00,159
last show of the week. Enjoy the day basketball off

1212
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:02,079
in a few minutes and go check out the replay

1213
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:03,639
if you missed any part of the show.

1214
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,039
Speaker 3: We'll see you guys tomorrow