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Speaker 1: Ryan Henderson alongside Rick Dolly Wall. Derek Wong directing the
Speaker 1: show today, and Quinn Taylor is our producer. How are
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Speaker 5: Still hurting? But not?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this studio. The soundtrack of this
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Speaker 5: I'm coughing you or you're both sneezing. Quinn sneezing like Yeah,
Speaker 5: you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 1: Derek is the most healthy individual in this room, which
Speaker 1: says something if you would know what his diet is
Speaker 1: when he usually directs this program.
Speaker 5: So, so you got your hauls and you're battling through
Speaker 5: playing hurt like a lot of guys in the NHL playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's no question on that. More on
Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Final as the show goes along last
Speaker 1: night One one Now series is all tied up after
Speaker 1: Carolina's comeback against Vegas. But the locally Rick with the
Speaker 1: Vancouver Canucks some news announced yet not announced yesterday. You
Speaker 1: broke it yesterday actually after our show, and that is
Speaker 1: that they have hired Darren.
Speaker 5: Hermiston, who lives in Kamloops.
Speaker 1: Lives in Kamloops, the Spain of British Columbia.
Speaker 5: Some people call him.
Speaker 1: He's a player agent Rick with the team, not our team,
Speaker 1: formerly Washerman Hockey.
Speaker 5: This is Darren here.
Speaker 1: This is his profile picture on Twitter, by the way.
Speaker 5: But what is it in black and white? He likes
Speaker 5: his artsy apparently, I don't know. But should this not
Speaker 5: be in color?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 5: Are we in nineteen thirty five?
Speaker 1: But doesn't don't people say if you put and this
Speaker 1: is no disrespect.
Speaker 5: He's a very good looking looks great Darren. I know Darren,
Speaker 5: Darren looks great.
Speaker 1: But but if isn't it like black and white makes
Speaker 1: you look younger?
Speaker 5: Season?
Speaker 1: Why people do black and white? I never heard that
Speaker 1: there's there's a reason why a lot of people put
Speaker 1: their photos in black and white. I think it's look this.
Speaker 5: Six there should be a color photo of him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but your artsy is something different.
Speaker 1: Anyway, one of the players Rick, he represents his Canucks
Speaker 1: forward Rd Baines. So yeah, there you go. He he
Speaker 1: did play. He played in the BHL. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, Vipers.
Speaker 5: Vernon, not the Vernon Vipers, the Vernon Lakers.
Speaker 1: Oh and then there are they the Vipers now the
Speaker 1: Vipers now right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, back in Vernon in the nineteen nineties there was
Speaker 5: an owner melt list and they won a ton of
Speaker 5: Centennial Cups and the Vernon was the powerhouse team for
Speaker 5: many years. And so anyways, it was the Vernon Lakers
Speaker 5: he played for, not the Vernon Vipers.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's I got that info off. Cannucks, get your
Speaker 1: BC Hockey League stuff. I'll have to rip into Quadrellia
Speaker 1: But anyway, what do you know about Darren? What kind
Speaker 1: of rule is he taking with the Canucks all those
Speaker 1: sorts of things.
Speaker 5: Rick, Well, first of all, he works for Wasserman, which
Speaker 5: is a huge firm who represents Connor McDavid and Austin Matthews.
Speaker 5: He's going to be the Canucks a director of player
Speaker 5: development and player performance. Like when people think about agents,
Speaker 5: all they think about is so they just do contracts
Speaker 5: for guys four five six million a year. In an
Speaker 5: agency for agents for hockey players, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: layers and one of the layers is development. You can't
Speaker 5: just get a player as an agent in bantam or
Speaker 5: midget or junior. You've got to help him and guide
Speaker 5: him with development. So one thing that Darren does really
Speaker 5: well is he helps the bantam kid get to the
Speaker 5: Western Hockey League and then he helps the NHL drafted
Speaker 5: kid get to the NHL. So for Washerman, he was
Speaker 5: one of those guys that helped with and the people say, well,
Speaker 5: what's an agent got to do with development? He has
Speaker 5: a lot to do with development. With Washerman, he does
Speaker 5: a great job of when they get a kid at
Speaker 5: the bantam draft, they help guide that kid to the
Speaker 5: Western Hockey League. So for his agency, he worked with
Speaker 5: the kids. He knows player development. I think this is
Speaker 5: a good higher. Darren is well respected in the hockey
Speaker 5: circles in British Columbia. I think it's a good hire.
Speaker 5: And he works for my buddy, Rich Evans or White Rocks,
Speaker 5: my neighbor Rich Evans.
Speaker 1: How's his dog doing? Have you seen his dog recently?
Speaker 5: I have seen Rich because now I go to the
Speaker 5: gym Trevor Linda's Jim. I cut my walks down on
Speaker 5: the weekend, so I don't see Rich in the neighborhood anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I'm sure. I'm sure he's heartbroken about that. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's interesting when you're describing Darren there. That fits a
Speaker 1: lot about what exactly is the the mo o of
Speaker 1: this whole organization right now. Big development of players, big
Speaker 1: time right moving players along within the organization, finding diamonds
Speaker 1: in the rough and you know, turning them into something,
Speaker 1: all that sort of thing. So everything you just said
Speaker 1: just completely jives with what they're doing. Now. You didn't say, though,
Speaker 1: that he's an AGM, and so is the assumption then
Speaker 1: that they are still looking for that person to fill
Speaker 1: Ryan Johnson's former role.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, they are looking for an assistant GM. I
Speaker 5: don't know if the assistant GM is going to be
Speaker 5: the assistant GM of Vancouver and Ron Abersford or there
Speaker 5: are two separate jobs. That remains to be seen. But
Speaker 5: they're still looking for an assistant GM, no question about it.
Speaker 1: And of course a head coach in abos.
Speaker 5: Fred as well. And he's got to find a good
Speaker 5: right hand man Ryan Johnson, because pack Quinn had Brian Burke,
Speaker 5: Burke had Dave notice Gillis said Gilman, Gillis head Gilman. Yep.
Speaker 5: It is imperative for general managers to have a good
Speaker 5: right hand man, you know, to help and guide and
Speaker 5: you know, and the trust level there as well. So
Speaker 5: I think he is looking for that guy. I do
Speaker 5: believe that now.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people would say that's also
Speaker 1: Daniel and Henrick might be his right hand men.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, but no, no, no, not at
Speaker 5: all their presidents. But he's got a high he's got
Speaker 5: to find someone he can trust. Rutherford, he's an advisor. Well, hey,
Speaker 5: Jim's probably in Carolina right now on a golf course.
Speaker 1: I'm curious how much advising Jim's going to be doing
Speaker 1: for the team this year, I think. But anyway, that's
Speaker 1: besides the point, no kidding. We just mentioned we mentioned
Speaker 1: Manny so yesterday the big introductory press conference at Rogers
Speaker 1: Arena Rickson, we talked a lot as that was going
Speaker 1: on during the show yesterday. But you know, I heard
Speaker 1: you talk with Halfred and Broff this morning about it,
Speaker 1: the messaging out of it. If you if you haven't
Speaker 1: had a chance, like go watch the presser and that
Speaker 1: pressor was the exact same in terms of messaging and
Speaker 1: wording as Ryan Johnson's introductory pressor and Henrik Gananaseni's introductory pressor.
Speaker 1: Like this organization, I'm trying to remember the last time
Speaker 1: it was this aligned. Is it the Gillison Gilman era?
Speaker 1: Maybe might be because it's been fractured for so long.
Speaker 1: These four individuals now, Manny, Ryan, Dan and Henrik are
Speaker 1: just so on the same page. Yes, it's incredible, And
Speaker 1: that's when we heard out of Manny yesterday, all of
Speaker 1: the same things we're hearing with Ryan. It's not about
Speaker 1: wins and losses, it's about development. We're gonna take it slow, culture,
Speaker 1: setting a culture, all of these things like he's played.
Speaker 1: Yesterday's presser, it was like the greatest hits of what
Speaker 1: Canuck fans have been wanting to hear over this last
Speaker 1: little while. And I tweeted it out like it's a
Speaker 1: complete one eighty of the k Now it's bad for us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the chaos that came out of every Gym Rutherford
Speaker 1: press conference was gold for us.
Speaker 5: It's gone, it's gone, but there won't be no more
Speaker 5: chaos with these No, it's completely different. Feel, completely different. Feel.
Speaker 5: You're gonna say there is a cool calm field. Yeah,
Speaker 5: totally about this new regime. They articulate their thoughts in
Speaker 5: a very clear way for the fans in the media,
Speaker 5: and they're gonna practice what they preach. These guys are
Speaker 5: gonna roll up their sleeves and get the job done.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And there's no chaos tire fires with this group of people.
Speaker 5: It's a really good management team put together well.
Speaker 1: And the other thing you brought up, Brick is you
Speaker 1: know he mentioned things like body language, Like again he
Speaker 1: meant he mentioned things, and maybe it was just a
Speaker 1: complete coincidence, but he mentioned things that were clear issues
Speaker 1: that have been clear issues with this franchise, whether it's
Speaker 1: body language, attention to detailed body, all of these things
Speaker 1: body he meant, he Rany touched on those things yesterday
Speaker 1: and and again. I think it's I just think it's
Speaker 1: it's so refreshing that they're they're starting with baby staff
Speaker 1: here and they're not saying like, hey, we should you know,
Speaker 1: we got to achieve this goal by this season, and
Speaker 1: then next season it's gonna be this goal. Like it's
Speaker 1: all about want to We want to really have great
Speaker 1: practices and believe that those practices will turn into the games.
Speaker 1: All those sorts of little things, and we haven't heard
Speaker 1: them for so long, and we heard again Manny just
Speaker 1: echo all of the same things that Ryan's been talking about.
Speaker 1: It's just really refreshing to hear and and and.
Speaker 5: On the body language, I want to say this, some
Speaker 5: of the body languages some of the Canucks in the
Speaker 5: past two years horrible. He's gonna fix that. Yeah, there
Speaker 5: were players in Absperd. He gave tough love to man.
Speaker 5: He don't think he's this, you know, it's just a
Speaker 5: nice guy. You're gonna roll over him. No, I don't
Speaker 5: think he's gonna put up with bad body.
Speaker 1: I totally agree.
Speaker 5: I don't think so at all. There was tough love
Speaker 5: given the players in Abosper. Don't think it was just
Speaker 5: you know, he gave tough love to those that needed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Me and again very hands on. We heard Brandon Astell
Speaker 1: talk to us about that a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Rick that he was on the ice with this scratches
Speaker 1: the day of a game. You know how often has
Speaker 1: that happen. Just incredibly involved and I think that's going
Speaker 1: to carry over here as well. One thing that was
Speaker 1: in that presser that we didn't react to yesterday, which
Speaker 1: of course is the million dollar question of how is
Speaker 1: Manny Majochu going to handle Elias Petterson. That's what he
Speaker 1: was asked about. This was the clip from Manny. You
Speaker 1: got this clip, Derek Manny. This was Manny talking about
Speaker 1: EP forty yesterday during the press conference.
Speaker 7: To answer your question, I have not spoken with him yet,
Speaker 7: and as I was saying before, with every player, my
Speaker 7: goal is to help him find his game. And we
Speaker 7: all know what he's capable of doing, the talent that
Speaker 7: he possesses and the ability that he has on the ice.
Speaker 7: One of the things that I love most about coaching
Speaker 7: is finding that connection with players and finding what makes
Speaker 7: them tick and how to get the best out of them.
Speaker 7: So it's it's on myself and the staff to help
Speaker 7: him find his best game and to be the player
Speaker 7: that we know he's capable of being.
Speaker 5: Now, look at I know he's in his eighth year.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know what you're helping him.
Speaker 5: Do you think Colorado helps Nathan McKinnon be the best
Speaker 5: player he is? No, he goes out there and he
Speaker 5: does it what superstars and high paid players is. I
Speaker 5: think the energy this franchise has spent on that player
Speaker 5: in the past two years is crazy. It's crazy. There's
Speaker 5: an expectation when you're the highest paid player on a
Speaker 5: team to bring it. But this this is his third
Speaker 5: coach in two years that's gonna try and fix them.
Speaker 5: If Rick Tocket couldn't fix him, Adam Foot couldn't fix them,
Speaker 5: I don't know how many Maholtra is going to fix them.
Speaker 1: Well, and we'll see what happens. Right, it might all
Speaker 1: be wasting air because maybe something does happen in the
Speaker 1: offseason and he has moved out of this organization. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I am curious though, Rick, because again, Manny
Speaker 1: basically took the same stance as Ryan Johnson.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Ryan Johnson Toya told media the other day that he
Speaker 1: he had talked to Elias Petterson and essentially said, there's
Speaker 1: no expectations, like just come in and and and we're
Speaker 1: gonna go from there. Now I'm curious is if they're
Speaker 1: just doing the exact opposite of everything Alvin and Rutherford did.
Speaker 1: Because Rutherford was very public about this guy doesn't train well,
Speaker 1: he needs to train better, he needs to come into
Speaker 1: camp better, all those sorts of things. He's very public
Speaker 1: putting pressure on him.
Speaker 5: But you're wasting so much energy as a franchise on
Speaker 5: one player who's into his ninth season.
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't see how he jives with
Speaker 1: everything these guys are talking about. Now, that's easier said
Speaker 1: than that. I don't remember about eleven points.
Speaker 5: I think the side twins and you're not.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 5: The coach was telling the Sadek Twins that I gotta
Speaker 5: help I gotta help the Sadeen Twins turn it around
Speaker 5: like it's just it's it's it's bizarre how much this
Speaker 5: team is spending energy wise on trying to fix this player.
Speaker 1: Right, and and let's be honest, I mean maybe not
Speaker 1: so much Manny, Henrik, Daniel Ryan. They've been with all
Speaker 1: these regimes that have come through trying to fix this guy.
Speaker 1: They know, they know the entire book on this guy.
Speaker 5: There's only one guy that's gonna fix this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's it's him. It's him.
Speaker 1: By the way, multiple people in our.
Speaker 5: Why you brought up Vernon? He played four games? It
Speaker 5: doesn't matter, it does. You didn't say what you played.
Speaker 1: Did you play bh O games?
Speaker 5: Yes, they didn't. You didn't say what years?
Speaker 1: This is unsigned. Darren Hermstrom played for Vernon in five
Speaker 1: six they were the Vipers then, not the Lakers.
Speaker 5: Ryan, You're right, four games wrong? Why would you bring
Speaker 5: up Vernon? He played four games, It doesn't matter. He
Speaker 5: played more games than you and I in the BHL.
Speaker 5: He gotta give him credit because a lot of people say, oh,
Speaker 5: what's he done, He's just an agent. Maybe he hasn't
Speaker 5: played well.
Speaker 1: He did. He played hockey. He's played hockey other level
Speaker 1: as well, but he did play in the bh.
Speaker 5: Anyways, I just loved the Vernon Lakers of the early nineties.
Speaker 5: They won a lot of Centennial Cups with Melis as
Speaker 5: the owner.
Speaker 1: Of course, if it happened in the early nineties, it's
Speaker 1: okay for you, Okay. As the program goes on, we'll
Speaker 1: talk more about the Canucks and as I mentioned, last
Speaker 1: night's Game two Wild Game two, that was a bit
Speaker 1: of a snooze, but then it rebounded late, you know,
Speaker 1: the final ten minutes and beyond electric electric, So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that, will break it down as the show
Speaker 1: goes along. Some interesting comments from MLS Commissioner Don Garber
Speaker 1: yesterday in Montreal, not Vancouver, but in Montreal, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk about those. A couple of little tidbits about the
Speaker 1: Canadian soccer team, the men's team, which is in action
Speaker 1: today today four point thirty in Montreal. They're taking on
Speaker 1: Ireland Rickets their final World Cup friendly today for Canada,
Speaker 1: and so we'll talk a little about that as the
Speaker 1: show goes. Show goes on. There's also been a apparently
Speaker 1: a trade request in the nhl't we'll chat about absolutely.
Speaker 1: Eleven o'clock, Moje is going to join us. We'll talk Lions,
Speaker 1: Canucks and much more. I want to get his thoughts
Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson as well. Moch because of course he's
Speaker 1: covered the Seahawks for quite a long time. So and
Speaker 1: if you missed it, by the way, Russell Wilson retiring
Speaker 1: officially earlier this week. He's stepping into the CBS NFL
Speaker 1: Realm as a TV analyst, so we'll talk to moj
Speaker 1: about him and more. Thomas Drantso is up next. He's
Speaker 1: in Buffalo.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think he's still in Buffalo, but he's been there
Speaker 1: for the athletics scouting compound is Scouting combine is going on.
Speaker 1: I think today's media day where all the media members
Speaker 1: get to chat with the prospect today. So a lot
Speaker 1: happening in Buffalo. But we'll talk to Drants next about
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Speaker 1: As mentioned Thomas Drantz from the Athletic and Sports at
Speaker 1: six to fifty hanging out in Buffalo. Rick yeh at
Speaker 1: the combine, but he's made some time for us today, Tom,
Speaker 1: are you.
Speaker 5: Sir, gentlemen.
Speaker 8: I'm doing well, but in an interesting week in Buffalo
Speaker 8: as it turns into a ghost town. Most of the
Speaker 8: agents and general managers departed this morning or last night,
Speaker 8: but of course media availabilities with the top prospects and
Speaker 8: testing are now sort of beginning, so it's the actual
Speaker 8: combine stuff as that starts. In some ways, the action
Speaker 8: dies down from a reporter's perspective. Gonna be interesting. I've
Speaker 8: never covered the combine before, but it was a ton
Speaker 8: of fun, Rick, You'd love it. I feel like this
Speaker 8: is your oh place, you would especially enjoy it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. But I've been texting those guys in Buffalo non
Speaker 5: stop all week anyways.
Speaker 1: For sure, of course, But the problem is there's not
Speaker 1: enough Crown in Buffalo.
Speaker 5: Those guys, believe me, those guys don't want to see me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that too, that as well.
Speaker 5: They texting is enough.
Speaker 8: Hey, Just to give everyone a sense of Rick's work ethic,
Speaker 8: I had an agent ask me about Rick today or
Speaker 8: maybe us yesterday and say I've heard from Ray every
Speaker 8: day by text for the last twenty five years.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did he look drained when he said that, Thomas, Like,
Speaker 1: was he like, oh wow? Okay?
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, No, it was like it was a it
Speaker 5: was a very it was a positive wow.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 8: And I only I'm because it's a compliment.
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the combine in a minute, Thomas.
Speaker 1: But yesterday Manny Malhultra officially unveiled is the Canucks head coach.
Speaker 1: Best thing I know you weren't there, but you've obviously
Speaker 1: heard his comments. Best thing you heard from Manny yesterday was.
Speaker 8: You know, honestly, I think it's a through line that
Speaker 8: was reflected in a variety of comments that he made,
Speaker 8: and it's there's a concise and thoughtful style of communication
Speaker 8: where he can be asked a question that could be thorny, right,
Speaker 8: and he answers it in a way that's like respectful, honest,
Speaker 8: straightforward and sort of answers the question uestionin completely. So
Speaker 8: I thought the Caleb Malhotra formulation where in my house,
Speaker 8: I'm either coach or I'm dad, and my son gets
Speaker 8: to pick who he wants to talk to, right, And
Speaker 8: that's such a revealing indicator of the sort of dynamic
Speaker 8: at play, but also sort of gives us a framework,
Speaker 8: I think too to understand, you know, how thoughtful and
Speaker 8: intentional Malhotra is. I thought the question about being the
Speaker 8: first NHL head coach of South Asian descent, right, and
Speaker 8: the idea that you know, it's not something that I'm
Speaker 8: judging myself on, but I respect that it matters a
Speaker 8: lot to people in my community. I thought that was
Speaker 8: handled in a way that, you know, it didn't downplay
Speaker 8: the importance or the significance of the milestone, but also
Speaker 8: made it very clear that that's not how malhot reviews
Speaker 8: himself or wants to be judged. He wants to be
Speaker 8: judged on his merits, plain and simple. You know. I
Speaker 8: thought the idea of finding joy helping guys find joy
Speaker 8: in the NHL, I thought that was another example of
Speaker 8: it where you know, it's not about wins and losses,
Speaker 8: it's about coming to the rink and say these moments, right.
Speaker 8: And I thought that came coming on the heels of
Speaker 8: Ryan Johnson's sort of communication, This idea that when you
Speaker 8: tell guys, oh, this is how we did it in
Speaker 8: my day, or you know, you're you're centering yourself, and
Speaker 8: guys put up a wall, they tune out right right
Speaker 8: after that comment, Malhotra does the finding joy idea, right,
Speaker 8: And it's just this distillation, right that this is a
Speaker 8: guy who was, you know, a top prospect and then
Speaker 8: he was trade bait, right, and then he didn't deliver
Speaker 8: as a first line player, but carved out, you know,
Speaker 8: an exceptional NHL career as a middle six defensive guy,
Speaker 8: and then you know, was on a PTO in San
Speaker 8: Jose and had to earn his way onto the roster
Speaker 8: and had a great season and signed the big free
Speaker 8: agent contract, like the idea that you have to savor this.
Speaker 8: It's a privilege to play in this league. This is
Speaker 8: the best time of our lives, and we need to
Speaker 8: behave and conduct ourselves as if that's the case. You know,
Speaker 8: I think there's a real sort of practice what you preach,
Speaker 8: like that's the benefit of experience. This is a guy
Speaker 8: who knows and has seen the game as a player,
Speaker 8: as an assistant, as a head coach, as an American
Speaker 8: League coach, from just about every possible angle. And he's
Speaker 8: also a guy who knows better than most how fleeting
Speaker 8: it can be, how quickly it can all be taken away, right,
Speaker 8: And so you know, right after Johnson was saying, our
Speaker 8: experience will inform what we say, but it's not going
Speaker 8: to be you know, us just talking about our experiences
Speaker 8: in a way that guys find it easy to ignore.
Speaker 8: Like right after he said that, we got a real
Speaker 8: time example of it in a very concise, compelling way
Speaker 8: from Malhotra that I also think sort of speaks to
Speaker 8: the heart of some of that sneering joylessness that surrounded
Speaker 8: this team over the past five years. So I think
Speaker 8: more than anything, it was like the methodical, concise way
Speaker 8: that he communicates that really jumped off the screen or
Speaker 8: the diist to me in consuming and thinking about that
Speaker 8: press conference.
Speaker 1: This is a little bit of a tease on our
Speaker 1: poll question, which we'll talk about internet next segment. Thomas,
Speaker 1: But what is Manny's number one job at least for
Speaker 1: next season?
Speaker 8: I mean, for me, honestly, I think it's going to
Speaker 8: be to accumulate basic common sense decisions that aid in
Speaker 8: this team not just developing young players, but also gaining
Speaker 8: the information they need to evaluate their players period. So
Speaker 8: you know, I thought there was a lot of money
Speaker 8: left on the table, a lot of stuff, a lot
Speaker 8: of money left in the coach cushions by the coaching
Speaker 8: staff last year. You know, losing faith in tol Apillo,
Speaker 8: your young goaltender who getting every bit of information about
Speaker 8: how prepared he is at the NHL level, felt high
Speaker 8: leverage to me, especially given thatcher Demco's long standing durability
Speaker 8: issues and the fact that he's you know, going to
Speaker 8: require waivers this fall, they start linking in eight games
Speaker 8: in a row because they lose one bad. Tolpelo start
Speaker 8: against Seattle and then Lankenin gets hurt and Tolapilo comes
Speaker 8: in in that game against Calgary and his confidence is shot,
Speaker 8: And now you've sort of missed this opportunity to have
Speaker 8: a sense of whether or not this guy's an NHL goaltender.
Speaker 8: Like that can't be happening, right. You're gonna need to
Speaker 8: make decisions, and Malhotra is going to need to make
Speaker 8: decisions that are more about managing the value of certain
Speaker 8: players or giving players opportunities that they might not be
Speaker 8: ready for than they are about winning hockey games. And
Speaker 8: more than anything, I think if this team's really careful
Speaker 8: and sharp about how they design those opportunities, how they
Speaker 8: go about creating value and protecting young guys from being
Speaker 8: thrown into the deep end and really like struggling for it,
Speaker 8: which I think happened universally, for example, to the Vancouver's
Speaker 8: three young defenseman last season. You know all of that stuff,
Speaker 8: That's the thing that I most want to see. I
Speaker 8: want to see this organization be really thoughtful about how
Speaker 8: they deploy their resources to gain information and evaluate players,
Speaker 8: especially given the wins are going to be secondary to
Speaker 8: the overall process. For me, that's number one.
Speaker 5: All right, Thomas, that's the problem. I'm texting an agent
Speaker 5: right now in Buffalo. Yeah. Anyways, Thomas, listen, Canucks have
Speaker 5: some management hires coming up here, assistant GM, and we
Speaker 5: hear you know, Darren Hermiston is going to be involved.
Speaker 5: What's your read on the assistant GM job. Where all
Speaker 5: these people are going to fit in, because there's a
Speaker 5: lot of hires to be made.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of hires to be made. Really interesting
Speaker 8: to me, Rick overall, how exactly they're going to approach
Speaker 8: all of this? You know, I think with regards to
Speaker 8: the assistant GM, you know, I look at this organization
Speaker 8: and think what they really need, what they're really desperate
Speaker 8: for is is some experience. Right And by the way,
Speaker 8: I think the same is going to apply to many
Speaker 8: Maltrest staff. You know, you've got a first time coach,
Speaker 8: a first time general manager, and two first time co presidents. Additionally,
Speaker 8: you know, when you move on from Jim Rutherford as
Speaker 8: a day to day resource for the organization and move
Speaker 8: on from Patrick Alvin, whether you think those moves were
Speaker 8: necessary or not. You're losing five and a half combined
Speaker 8: decades of experience working in hockey, hockey operations environments.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: Right now, you sort of look through the Canucks front
Speaker 8: office and the assistant general managers right are. They've been
Speaker 8: on the job for about three years, and their portfolios
Speaker 8: weren't necessarily huge relative to like an Evan gold Right,
Speaker 8: who runs the R and D department and does the
Speaker 8: cap and contract negotiations and manages the American League team
Speaker 8: in Boston. Just to use an example that's familiar to
Speaker 8: Canuck expands from sort of the last few years, Like that's
Speaker 8: not been the portfolio of an Emily Castungay or a
Speaker 8: Cammi Granado. Which isn't to say they can't handle it.
Speaker 8: It's just to say that they haven't been put in
Speaker 8: that position. So I feel like they need some executors.
Speaker 8: It does seem like Ryan Johnson's maybe a little bit
Speaker 8: underwater in terms of the workflow. Bringing in some people
Speaker 8: who've sort of been through the battles, have seen everything,
Speaker 8: can can sort of execute, I think, to aid in
Speaker 8: what's a pretty inexperienced front office, I think that's going
Speaker 8: to be critical. I like them also exploring young, up
Speaker 8: and coming smart guys like Hermiston, Right, I think that's good.
Speaker 8: I don't think the need for experience precludes you from also,
Speaker 8: you know, dipping into your contacts and picking some of
Speaker 8: the smartest guys you know around the around the game.
Speaker 8: But I do think some experience for the front office,
Speaker 8: to me, is going to be an absolutely critical thing
Speaker 8: that this organization is going to need to add. And
Speaker 8: I think the same is going to be true on
Speaker 8: many Mahotra's coaching staff. Like I think that was a
Speaker 8: big problem for Adam Foot in his first season. I
Speaker 8: think they didn't have a guy who'd sort of been
Speaker 8: through it on the staff, and I think that was
Speaker 8: a problem. I don't want to see a repeat of that. Right,
Speaker 8: We're hearing the right things from these four gentlemen at
Speaker 8: the top of the Cannuckts sort of hockey operations hierarchy
Speaker 8: in various roles. I think we all believe in their vision.
Speaker 8: I think we all believe in their character, right, the
Speaker 8: caliber of who these people are, and the fact that
Speaker 8: they get what this organization needs and they get what
Speaker 8: this organization is all about. What I want to see
Speaker 8: is this organization begin to put in place the things
Speaker 8: needed to put them in a position to succeed too.
Speaker 8: And I think some experienced hands to be added to
Speaker 8: the group. I think that's going to be necessary, especially
Speaker 8: because this team has a lot to do. The stakes
Speaker 8: are enormously high, and you know, like I hope they
Speaker 8: can pull off this nearly impossible task of rebuilding during
Speaker 8: an era of cap growth. They're basically attempting one of
Speaker 8: the hardest maneuvers we've seen in the NHL, in NHL
Speaker 8: team building in twenty five years. That's let's make no
Speaker 8: mistake about what they've inherited in what they have to
Speaker 8: do here. And I think some experience and people who've
Speaker 8: been through it, I think would be a welcome addition,
Speaker 8: in fact, a necessary addition to this front office structure.
Speaker 5: All Right, you're in Buffalo. What's the feel when you
Speaker 5: talk to people about the Canucks. Is it going to
Speaker 5: be Maddy Mulultro's kid, Caleb with the third pick? What's
Speaker 5: your guts in? After talking about the Yeah.
Speaker 8: The industry seems to believe. So that's why they had Yeah.
Speaker 8: They followed him around very closely during the OHL playoffs.
Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of industry folks, comparing it
Speaker 8: closely to the way Verbeek tracked Beckett Seneca, who went
Speaker 8: third overall, and it was something of a surprise. But
Speaker 8: to the people who were paying attention to who was
Speaker 8: at the games, who was at the OHL playoff games,
Speaker 8: it maybe wasn't as big a surprise as it was
Speaker 8: to the rest of us, including the Seneca himself. So,
Speaker 8: you know, it does seem like the industry itself expects
Speaker 8: at this point. The Canucks, to you know, have have
Speaker 8: narrowed in on Caleb Malhotra as their choice. Which isn't
Speaker 8: to say that the decision is made or that the
Speaker 8: discussion is settled. I'm sure there's more to come. The
Speaker 8: club obviously interviewed and talked to a variety of the
Speaker 8: top picks, took out, you know, guys like Chase Reid
Speaker 8: for dinner. I've always heard that they were really high
Speaker 8: on Chase Reid throughout this process too. And we'll see
Speaker 8: what san Jose does. I think san Jose's intentions are inscrutable,
Speaker 8: very difficult to parse exactly what san Jose intends to do, right,
Speaker 8: So they're going to keep people guessing, and that's part
Speaker 8: of this story as well, So we'll see. But I
Speaker 8: certainly think the buzz that you're hearing generally, like on Twitter,
Speaker 8: on social media, this idea of like the Canucks being
Speaker 8: linked to Kala Malhotra. I think that matches the assumptions
Speaker 8: of a variety of people in the industry, you know,
Speaker 8: including like rival scouting directors, agents of top prospects. A
Speaker 8: lot of people seem to believe that the smoke around
Speaker 8: the Canucks and Kala Malhotra is very real.
Speaker 5: Yep, it is.
Speaker 1: And you posted an article this morning, Tom about the
Speaker 1: NHL combine notes you're hearing so far this Vigo Byorke.
Speaker 1: Is he like the buzziest name in terms of the
Speaker 1: way he's risen in the draft?
Speaker 5: Is he like is he.
Speaker 1: Getting the most chatter at the combine?
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know. I mean his meetings were with
Speaker 8: Florida and Seattle, which suggests that the industry still suspects
Speaker 8: his range is more top ten than top five. So
Speaker 8: I think it'll still be a bit of a surprise
Speaker 8: if he bumps into you know, the sort of tier
Speaker 8: above where he's generally been considered. I think the uniqueness
Speaker 8: of b York is that for a lot of players
Speaker 8: with his profile, you usually have the translatability concerns is
Speaker 8: he fast enough at his size to make a difference
Speaker 8: in the NHL. But everyone just saw him, you know,
Speaker 8: hunt down Nico heescher on, you know, while backtracking, backtracking
Speaker 8: off rush defensive sequences at the World Everyone just saw
Speaker 8: him win battles against Ryan O'Reilly, both in the face
Speaker 8: off circle and on the wall. So those translatability concerns
Speaker 8: have kind of been answered. Also, he's gonna interview. Well,
Speaker 8: he speaks perfect English, right, I mean, his command of
Speaker 8: the language is complete, one hundred percent. And you know
Speaker 8: that's not necessarily true even for a kid like Evar Stenberg, right,
Speaker 8: who's you know, English is solid strong, but it's not
Speaker 8: at the level that you know, a Stockholm kid like
Speaker 8: at Yorkss. So that's going to be part of the
Speaker 8: story too. Yeah, he's pretty buzzy this week. A lot
Speaker 8: of rumors about teams interested in trading up and and
Speaker 8: on and on. So he's definitely been central to a
Speaker 8: lot of conversations that certainly I've been having or that
Speaker 8: I've been overhearing during my time in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you making some time Thomas, enjoyed your
Speaker 1: remaining days there in Buffalo, and we'll chat with you
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 8: I'm a big Buffalo guy, man, I'm not unhappy to
Speaker 8: be here. Do you have the wings day out there too?
Speaker 1: Do you have wings there?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: Do you?
Speaker 8: I had wings? I was working too late, so I
Speaker 8: missed Gabriel's Gate and I had to go to a
Speaker 8: bar with a better television. But I had some wings.
Speaker 8: I had some wings.
Speaker 5: Yesterday was well, okay, nice, very nice, very nice, nice.
Speaker 5: Thanks Thomas.
Speaker 1: Thomas Drants from the Athletic at Sports at six fifty
Speaker 1: and as I mentioned, he released an article this morning
Speaker 1: Rick on the Athletics website with some notes from the
Speaker 1: Combine about Stenbourg, b York and also the rut Twins.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about them on the other side
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Speaker 5: What is Manny Maholter's number one job as Canucks head coach?
Speaker 5: Is it to turn around EP forty, develop young players,
Speaker 5: improve culture, or lose games? Look at this Develop young
Speaker 5: players is leading at sixty four percent. Then comes improve
Speaker 5: the culture way down and I'm a little surprised at
Speaker 5: this turn around, Patterson, you surprised four percent? Why did
Speaker 5: you put it up there?
Speaker 1: Because because of what you know we talked about in
Speaker 1: the first segment, Utah games lose games is at zero.
Speaker 5: That was tongue in cheeked. I told you not to
Speaker 5: put that up. Quinn came up with it. Quinn came
Speaker 5: up with that, but to develop young players. And when
Speaker 5: you look at why they made the coaching change, you
Speaker 5: know Adam Foot was hired to win, not drop to
Speaker 5: thirty second place and go into a rebuild. So would
Speaker 5: he have been that guy to develop young players? Manny's
Speaker 5: been developing young players for the last two years in Abasburg.
Speaker 5: It makes a lot of sense. So I think this
Speaker 5: poll is right on develop young players because guess what
Speaker 5: the Canucks have I believe twenty eight picks over the
Speaker 5: next three years, So there's a slew of young kids coming.
Speaker 5: How they developed them in abspert and then how he
Speaker 5: develops the Manny in Vancouver is going to be the key.
Speaker 1: I think that number for EP forty Rick, it just
Speaker 1: tells you, I think more than anything of what you
Speaker 1: said people that up, why is the why? Like what
Speaker 1: the third coach is going to be the guy that
Speaker 1: unlocks him. This is the third, you know, at least
Speaker 1: since his slump. It'll be his third coach.
Speaker 5: Rick talkin could not fix Petterson. Yeah, Adam Foot couldn't
Speaker 5: fix them. Well, how's Manny going to fix them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like I I think it's all on him if he
Speaker 1: wants to turn things.
Speaker 5: Bonus is always on the player always.
Speaker 1: Okay, we talked about it, Drance. It was in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: He's in Buffalo at the scouting combine.
Speaker 5: Rick.
Speaker 1: The Ruck brothers, Liam Marcus, they boys PC boys course
Speaker 1: from a soy use playing at Medicine. Hat more than
Speaker 1: likely the first one is gonna go in the late
Speaker 1: first round, then the second one. I think Liam is
Speaker 1: the consensus higher of the two. But they're very close together.
Speaker 1: But you have some information Rick on what they're gonna
Speaker 1: be up to next year, regardless of way where they
Speaker 1: get drafted in June.
Speaker 5: Forget about next year, what about today. The Caducks are
Speaker 5: having separate meetings with the Ruck brothers today in Buffalo
Speaker 5: at the combine. So one of the Rucks is met
Speaker 5: with twenty five teams, that's Liam. The other rucks met
Speaker 5: with about twenty teams. The Canucks are going to talk
Speaker 5: with both today separately. They are twin brothers, but they're
Speaker 5: gonna do separate interviews with Vancouver today. They have decided
Speaker 5: to go back to medicine Hat. This is big for
Speaker 5: the Western Hockey League because the Western Hockey League has
Speaker 5: been hit so hard with elite players going to the NCAA.
Speaker 5: These two players, and I mentioned this on the show
Speaker 5: last week, they're gonna go back to medicine Hat, which
Speaker 5: is massive because they're probably gonna end up leading the
Speaker 5: league in scoring next year. Willie Desjarden is gonna be
Speaker 5: very happy that they've elected to stay. They had a
Speaker 5: ton of colleges after them. They said, no, we're gonna
Speaker 5: go to medicine Hat, and maybe they win it all
Speaker 5: next year in medicine Hat. I don't know the other
Speaker 5: thing I want to tell you about the Ruck brothers.
Speaker 5: There are going to be NHL teams that try and
Speaker 5: draft both.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: It's going to be hard because a lot of teams
Speaker 5: have one of the Rucks around twenty twenty one. The
Speaker 5: second Ruck is either late first, early second, So how
Speaker 5: is a team gonna draft both. It's going to be
Speaker 5: hard because they're separated by about ten to twelve picks
Speaker 5: in a lot of teams eyes the sedeen twins were
Speaker 5: easy to trade for, not easy, but their skill levels
Speaker 5: were together second and third, Brian Burke did it made
Speaker 5: a lot of sense. So these two Ruck brothers, there
Speaker 5: is going to be teams that are gonna try real
Speaker 5: hard to draft both. We'll see if they can pull
Speaker 5: it off. It's going to be hard. But the other
Speaker 5: thing about the Rucks and obviously BC Boys, it's gonna
Speaker 5: be great. Keep an eye on Calgary. Calgary Flames have
Speaker 5: four picks in the second round. They have a ton
Speaker 5: of picks. Calgary's gotta and they look at right there
Speaker 5: medicine hat Alberta. Calgary makes a lot of sense. They've
Speaker 5: been watching them all year. They're two feet away. So anyways,
Speaker 5: we'll keep an eye on the Ruck brothers. But they
Speaker 5: are gonna meet with the Vancouver Canucks today in Buffalo
Speaker 5: at the Combine.
Speaker 1: It'll be very interesting to see Rick if a team
Speaker 1: pulls off getting both of them, it'll be very interesting
Speaker 1: if they don't, only because you know, we talked with
Speaker 1: Corey Pramman last week and he told us the sample
Speaker 1: size of them playing.
Speaker 5: A part is so small.
Speaker 1: What are you getting if they're I mean, they're obviously
Speaker 1: talented and hockey players, But what are you getting if
Speaker 1: you don't get them together? I mean that would be
Speaker 1: that's up to scouts in to figure things.
Speaker 5: Well, you're they go to a team.
Speaker 9: I think it's more risky to take one of them
Speaker 9: than it is.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'm curious. Let's say Calgary. Let's just pick Calgary
Speaker 1: for instance, they draft the first one. Is that second
Speaker 1: team gonna want to take the second one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I almost think it'll fall to them, even
Speaker 1: if it is fifteen.
Speaker 5: Picks different the better one Rick, I think it's Liam.
Speaker 1: I think Liam is the.
Speaker 10: Is the more if Liam gets picked in the first round,
Speaker 10: I don't like, why would another team pick.
Speaker 1: Marcus, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: Yeah, when he's like less less touted as him.
Speaker 1: I just don't like, what would your what would your
Speaker 1: intelligence be saying? Again, with the fact we've barely seen
Speaker 1: them apart, what would they be saying that, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: now you should go out and just get one of them.
Speaker 1: I think it might end up falling to a team
Speaker 1: that you know, whoever gets the first one is probably
Speaker 1: gonna end up getting the second, even if they're split pickwise.
Speaker 1: It would just be very odd if you just take
Speaker 1: a chance on just the second one.
Speaker 5: But it will see.
Speaker 1: If they get drafted here somehow, some way, it would
Speaker 1: be incredible story cool. You know, you get the Daniel
Speaker 1: and Henrik now in this elevated role of presidents, and
Speaker 1: in their first draft in that role, they there's a
Speaker 1: set of twins back in the organization from this province.
Speaker 1: It would be something very very special. And you're right
Speaker 1: Rick about the WHL. I just want to say, because
Speaker 1: there's so much chatter about guys leaving. Who knows what
Speaker 1: happens with Land and DuPont out of Everett if he
Speaker 1: goes or whatever. We know what's happening with Ryan Land,
Speaker 1: et cetera. The fact they're staying is great to see
Speaker 1: because I'm really concerned about the WHL and these guys
Speaker 1: jumping ship and I don't necessarily know it's the right
Speaker 1: move for them to jump to go to the NC
Speaker 1: double A. And we'll see as things shake out over
Speaker 1: time and more and more guys do it, and we'll
Speaker 1: be able to get a sense of if it was
Speaker 1: worth it or not. But the fact they've already said
Speaker 1: they're gonna stay is a massive thing for the WHL.
Speaker 5: They're gonna stay, They're gonna play with Willie d and
Speaker 5: Medicine Hat. You know, they're probably gonna have a good
Speaker 5: shot to win the WESTERNOCA League title next year and
Speaker 5: then they can go to the NC Double the year after. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's long Island, by the way, is where the All
Speaker 1: Star Game is, because remember they got they were supposed
Speaker 1: to have it, and then the Olympics obviously made that
Speaker 1: not happen, so they're going to host the uh the
Speaker 1: All Star Game next year.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just worry a little bit about, like I say,
Speaker 1: you're doing so, you're doing the All Star Game now
Speaker 1: country based. We know about the World Cup yep, right,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have the Olympics now, I mean, is it.
Speaker 1: I'm down for anything you want to try to improve
Speaker 1: the All Star Game and the skills competition for that matter,
Speaker 1: because I think both things are incredibly stale, and the
Speaker 1: U twenty five aspect Quinn of the skills I think
Speaker 1: will only be a positive because, like you say, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have money in the line that's gonna tice these kids,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a lot of creative a lot
Speaker 1: of creative juice there with these younger players. And that's
Speaker 1: what we see in the league is you see the
Speaker 1: lacrosse moves and all that, it's usually from the younger players.
Speaker 1: So I think the skills competition will be.
Speaker 10: I like the country on country and I think I
Speaker 10: think like the NHL and like hockey and general should
Speaker 10: like totally embrace the international aspect of the international competition
Speaker 10: where you've see the twelve years and finally bring it back.
Speaker 10: And then the viewership this year or the Game one
Speaker 10: was four point eight million, highest since twenty nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 10: Like that's totally a reason why. I think the more
Speaker 10: they embrace it, the better and more eyes that gets
Speaker 10: the gets on hockey. So I think it's all along.
Speaker 5: Anything to four nations was massive, it was. It was
Speaker 5: a huge hit.
Speaker 1: This will not be four nations.
Speaker 10: But I mean, I don't know, like if whoever loses,
Speaker 10: if Canada beats the States or States beats Canada, like
Speaker 10: social media is gonna crazy.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I'll be curious to see the level of play.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna see hitting. You're just not going to.
Speaker 1: But do you see more pace than what we've seen
Speaker 1: the possibility. It's a round robin tournament, by the way,
Speaker 1: each team is gonna play four or five minute games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no overtime, no shootout. Top two teams from the round
Speaker 1: robin advance to a ten minute final based on a
Speaker 1: point system that's accumulated during the round robin, and the
Speaker 1: winning team gets two million bucks. So again, they're putting
Speaker 1: some money on the line at the end of it.
Speaker 1: With the whole they have to do something entice to
Speaker 1: do some players. Yeah, give them credit for trying. Let's
Speaker 1: see if it works. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree
Speaker 1: on that. You got something else there.
Speaker 9: Quinn just.
Speaker 10: Well, again, like this happened yesterday. But Dylan lark And
Speaker 10: questioned the trade from the Troy red Wicks.
Speaker 9: That's crazy.
Speaker 10: A lot of people are saying he's gonna probably gonna
Speaker 10: go Minnesota because it makes sense because they have such
Speaker 10: a desperate need for a center. He's also a lot
Speaker 10: of very tight hold but they don't really have anything.
Speaker 5: A ton of teams are looking for a centiment. Yeah, Philadelphia, Boston,
Speaker 5: you know this probably good Minnesota. There's a ton of
Speaker 5: teams looking for this guy. There's gonna be a ton
Speaker 5: of interest in this guy. You know what.
Speaker 10: This probably isn't good news for the Cocks because since
Speaker 10: the center market this offseason is so bare and there's
Speaker 10: just nothing to nothing to get, especially in UFA, like
Speaker 10: when Boone Jenner's the number one center.
Speaker 9: I don't know what we're talking about.
Speaker 10: Petterson probably had a lot of people looking at him
Speaker 10: for that, like probably and then now with Larkin, Larkin's
Speaker 10: obviously going to be the bigger fish.
Speaker 1: I wondered about the Petterson thing. The only saving grace
Speaker 1: with Petterson is what you just said, Quinn, is that
Speaker 1: there is nothing on the free agent market. So if
Speaker 1: there's nothing on the free agent market and some team
Speaker 1: needs to improve their center depth by or needs a
Speaker 1: second line center, I think there's a team that will
Speaker 1: talk themselves into EP forty, how the deal looks, how
Speaker 1: it's structured, with bad money back, all those sorts of
Speaker 1: things that can come. But I think there will be
Speaker 1: a team out there that will talk themselves into he
Speaker 1: just needs to change the scenery. We know that he
Speaker 1: can this, this, this and whatever, and they can talk
Speaker 1: themselves into it. Larkin's obviously the number one target on
Speaker 1: the board now and credit to Elliott for breaking this.
Speaker 1: He in this blog he posted yesterday ahead of Game two,
Speaker 1: he said, no one is going to talk. He said
Speaker 1: that Larkin didn't talk, his agents didn't talk. Eisman didn't talk,
Speaker 1: but he said there appear to be two critical factors
Speaker 1: with the rationale here, Detroit's inability to make the playoffs
Speaker 1: and a somewhat frosty relationship between the captain and the
Speaker 1: team's top.
Speaker 5: So two years ago, Steve Eiserman made no moves of
Speaker 5: the deadline to improve the Red Wings playoff chances, and
Speaker 5: he came out and said, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right. So and this year,
Speaker 1: Rick he panicked and gave up a first round pick
Speaker 1: for Justin Falk. That was their big move because they
Speaker 1: were trying to take the swing for Quinn Hughes. That
Speaker 1: apparently was hinging on Hughes agreeing to an extension, which
Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen, and so that fizzled out. But
Speaker 1: it's just a very interesting dynamic in Detroit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Steve Eisman, obviously a legend with the franchise.
Speaker 9: Would you keep them. Well.
Speaker 1: See, this is the conundrum, is like, are you going
Speaker 1: to fire Steve Iisman at the Detroit Red Wings.
Speaker 9: He if his name wasn't Steve Iiman, Wow.
Speaker 1: He would be gone. He would be I think he'd
Speaker 1: be gone because you haven't seen the fruits of the
Speaker 1: eyes are plant or the plan that he always talks about.
Speaker 5: Ten years, they haven't made that wild this year. They
Speaker 5: were in a playoff spot for a good chunk of
Speaker 5: the season and then they faltered down the stretch. He's
Speaker 5: got the same agent as Eliets Patterson. What is very
Speaker 5: interesting to me is that this guy told his agents
Speaker 5: to ask for a trade out of Detroit. Petterson has
Speaker 5: never asked his agents for a trade out of Vancouver.
Speaker 5: This guy wants out of Detroit because he's tired of
Speaker 5: the losing and he doesn't like Iierman. Petterson's only made
Speaker 5: the playoffs twice in Vancouver in eight years. Yeah, very
Speaker 5: interesting stuff. Yeah, yeah, we'll see how this this unfolding Detroit.
Speaker 9: He also has a no move clause kind of control.
Speaker 1: He controls it. But it's it's also interesting. You know
Speaker 1: people are bringing up again back to the country thing
Speaker 1: is here's another American I know, playing in an American city,
Speaker 1: but another American that was on that US Olympic roster
Speaker 1: that's asking out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5: I put hold on his seck. I mean, he's basically
Speaker 5: telling you, I'm tired.
Speaker 1: Sure, he's asking out.
Speaker 5: He's thirty years old, his time is running out. He's
Speaker 5: not twenty one asking.
Speaker 1: For tu Still, Rick, it's still enough. You've had Matthew
Speaker 1: K Chuck move out of Calgary, You've had Quing move
Speaker 1: out of here. You're gonna maybe have Larkin move out.
Speaker 1: Every every sing who knows about hell about the future.
Speaker 10: Like when I saw this, I was pretty happy that
Speaker 10: it was an America, American player one.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and we weren't gonna have to have that conversation
Speaker 1: again about it.
Speaker 5: I don't have to worry. I know that I agree.
Speaker 5: I agree with you on that. Okay.
Speaker 1: Up next, we're to talk more about the Vancouver Canucks
Speaker 1: and also about the BC Lions CFL season. Rick got
Speaker 1: under way last night last night over tire, Yes and
Speaker 1: Hamilton went to overtime, so we talked to MOJ about
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Speaker 1: the British Columbia Alliance and calling for Black Press, Bob
Speaker 1: the moj Marjonovic moj how are.
Speaker 3: You, sir, gentlemen? How you guys doing that?
Speaker 5: What the heck? Okay?
Speaker 1: So if we were people on the podcast, Moje has
Speaker 1: his background as usual, and he's got Donnie and Rick
Speaker 1: in a in a hospital bed.
Speaker 5: What the heck?
Speaker 1: Well, because mos supposed to be on Wednesday and YouTube
Speaker 1: right right, So you're saying I was sick because of
Speaker 1: the Crown man, Well, it's called the It's called the
Speaker 1: flu Bob, the.
Speaker 3: Flu rch security footage right there, you and Dane are slided.
Speaker 5: By side two old men.
Speaker 9: I love it.
Speaker 5: Those poor nurses if that was ever the case, let
Speaker 5: me tell you those.
Speaker 1: Poor nurses, uh moch. Yesterday, Manny Mahoultra officially introduced to
Speaker 1: the media as the twenty third head coach of the Canucks.
Speaker 1: I think I feel like we're I feel like we're
Speaker 1: maybe we're overdoing this. But the symmetry between Ryan Johnson,
Speaker 1: Manny and the Sedines is just so impressive. Did you
Speaker 1: get that again yesterday? Hearing from and very much similar
Speaker 1: from what we've heard from Ryan and the twins as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, alignment, that's that's what you're looking for. But you
Speaker 3: know it's interesting. I want out for dinner last night
Speaker 3: with a couple of friends, one who well both are
Speaker 3: extremely successful, but one is like stupid successful, and we
Speaker 3: were talking about they were talking about, you know, what
Speaker 3: makes their companies do well, and they just talked about
Speaker 3: the fact that you got to go and get good people,
Speaker 3: right and if you look at the Canucks and their hires,
Speaker 3: they went out and they got good people. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you remember this story, Ryan, I think, oh,
Speaker 3: I know it is. Mike Gillis had told it to us.
Speaker 3: I think it was when b Mac and Donnie and
Speaker 3: I were doing the show, and he said that when
Speaker 3: he was in New York one time, they had dinner
Speaker 3: and Manny was obviously one of his guys, and they
Speaker 3: had dinner when Manny was with the Rangers, and I
Speaker 3: didn't even Powell was there. I can't recall, but I
Speaker 3: do remember the story where Mike talked about Gillis or
Speaker 3: pardon me, Malhotra leaving the restaurant and as he looked outside,
Speaker 3: Manny was is either giving his his takeaway or you know,
Speaker 3: giving some money to a person. And you know, he
Speaker 3: just realized what type of person Manny Malhotra was, just
Speaker 3: by that little, you know, that little incident there. So
Speaker 3: you know, that's the type of guy that you're dealing with,
Speaker 3: that's the type of people that you have. I mean
Speaker 3: the Sedines are quality of people. You talked about them
Speaker 3: wanting to get back into the community more, getting the
Speaker 3: organization back in there more. And and I know people
Speaker 3: will say, well, what's that got to do with hockey, right, Well,
Speaker 3: it has a lot to do with your culture. And
Speaker 3: if you want to win a championship, it doesn't take
Speaker 3: a team, it takes an organization. Means everybody in the
Speaker 3: building that works at Rogers Arena has to invest. It's
Speaker 3: one of the things that you know, ironically enough, Vegas
Speaker 3: playing in the finals. I remember George McPhee talking about
Speaker 3: when they win the cup, so everybody checked their egos
Speaker 3: at the door. Those are the players and the coaches.
Speaker 3: Is everyone equipment guys, scouts, you know, trainers, you name it.
Speaker 3: You need everybody to be part of it. And I
Speaker 3: think when you have people like the Sedines and Ryan
Speaker 3: Johnson and Manny mahuldron board, they're gonna get those people invested.
Speaker 1: I do remember that. Give a story, Emoje, I know
Speaker 1: you're bang on with it. Tell us a lot about
Speaker 1: about Manny. The guys talked a lot yesterday though. We're
Speaker 1: waiting for some outside voices to be hired here because
Speaker 1: you got Manny, you got Ryan, you got the cities.
Speaker 1: They're all linked together. Are you concerned about that that
Speaker 1: we haven't had an outside voice, somebody different added in
Speaker 1: as an AGM. We're obviously waiting on Manny staff, but
Speaker 1: an AGM or or some sort of role with the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you probably do want maybe someone with experience.
Speaker 3: I know we've been told that Rutherford is going to
Speaker 3: be an advisor. I don't know how much way you
Speaker 3: can put into that, but it would be good to
Speaker 3: have somebody maybe outside the box to present ideas to
Speaker 3: your organization. And maybe they will. I mean, they still
Speaker 3: have time, and it's like Brian Burke says, we don't
Speaker 3: play until October, right, so the Caducks don't play a
Speaker 3: game until October. But yeah, it would be nice to
Speaker 3: get somebody who kind of gives a little bit of
Speaker 3: a different perspective outside the organ.
Speaker 5: All right, Mojah. The CFL season kicked off last night
Speaker 5: overtime in Hamilton. Great game, Lions got to buy After
Speaker 5: watching cap, after watching everything the preseason, what are your
Speaker 5: thoughts on this Lion's team? A lot of people are
Speaker 5: picking them to go far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people picking them to win the
Speaker 3: Great Cup. I'm excited, I really am. I know, offensively,
Speaker 3: people will look at the loss of Drell Broxton, but
Speaker 3: if you can get Dejon Allen back to form. Of course,
Speaker 3: this is a guy who won the Most Outstanding Lineman
Speaker 3: a couple of years back and lost out to his
Speaker 3: teammate who wound up winning it a year or two ago.
Speaker 3: So there's a guy there that's going to be a big,
Speaker 3: big key for that offensive line. And then defensively, it's
Speaker 3: how the secondary, you know, plays, and you know, we've
Speaker 3: talked about this ad nauseum. It's it's going to be
Speaker 3: interesting to see how they get by on the secondary.
Speaker 3: I know there's gonna be a lot of versatility there.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some moving pieces. But the big thing
Speaker 3: with the Lions is there's so much excitement, particularly with
Speaker 3: the offense, given the fact that you know, last year
Speaker 3: they were learning Buck Pierce's they got off to that
Speaker 3: slow start in terms of the players, you know, really
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what Buck wanted, Buck figuring out
Speaker 3: what his players were capable of. They were two and five,
Speaker 3: but they stuck to the process and they wind up
Speaker 3: going on a heater to finish the season. So I
Speaker 3: think the big key this year is to get off
Speaker 3: to a better start because they do want to have
Speaker 3: home field advantage and finish in first in the Western Division.
Speaker 5: Hey, Bob, but new well I'm not going to say
Speaker 5: new practice facility, but boy, did the Canucks or sorry,
Speaker 5: the Lions locker room out in Surrey? Did that look nice?
Speaker 5: How happy are you with this? Look at this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's sharp, and I know there's people
Speaker 3: out there that'll say or WHOOPI do whatever, But I
Speaker 3: mean compared to where it was before, I mean where
Speaker 3: it was before, I'll be honest, was an embarrassment. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for professional team. I mean this at least is you know,
Speaker 3: it's a very nice locker room, a very much improved facility.
Speaker 3: The key thing is the players are happy. They have
Speaker 3: a lounge, they have a kitchen, they have you know,
Speaker 3: all of the amenities now. So you know, it's interesting
Speaker 3: because Rick talk could talked about this so many times.
Speaker 3: Having it's not about just having the facility, it's having
Speaker 3: a place where players can bond, where players can hang out,
Speaker 3: where players want to hang out. Right, so after practice
Speaker 3: you just don't feel like bolting and getting out of there.
Speaker 3: Maybe you stick around on the lounge, you know, you
Speaker 3: play little ping pong, whatever the case may be. But
Speaker 3: it just gives them an opportunity for the players to
Speaker 3: bond a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And it's still ongoing, right mojes. They've got like a
Speaker 1: temporary tent outside there because they're moving things around as
Speaker 1: they build.
Speaker 3: Right. It's interesting because you know, there was so much
Speaker 3: talk about the fact that they were going to find
Speaker 3: another facility. I know that it was something that mister
Speaker 3: Dolman wanted to do, was to you know, find I
Speaker 3: shouldn't say find another facility, but improve upon the facilities
Speaker 3: that they have. So I think they just finally resolved
Speaker 3: themselves to saying, hey, you know what we're here, might
Speaker 3: as well improve this, right, So I think now the
Speaker 3: big key is getting the new turf. We're getting the
Speaker 3: turf replaced at Tom Bennie's Park, which is right next door.
Speaker 3: So the Lions will practice on the grasses as long
Speaker 3: as they can, but there comes a point where that
Speaker 3: grass becomes a little treacherous, wet, whatever the case may be,
Speaker 3: gets chewed up. So what they have to do is
Speaker 3: they have to go to a turf. Will the CFLPA
Speaker 3: is determined that the turf next to the facility is
Speaker 3: not safe, so they don't practice there. They bust out
Speaker 3: to George Road Park. So that's the other thing too,
Speaker 3: is just to get that turf finally replaced at the facility,
Speaker 3: and then you know, I imagine sooner or later they'll
Speaker 3: probably start working on some of the facilities on the
Speaker 3: second floor or probably some of the things on the
Speaker 3: second floor of the facility.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this Moche because Able Auctions has
Speaker 1: a appliance auction ongoing me.
Speaker 3: God, good, God, love Jeremy.
Speaker 1: There there you go.
Speaker 5: God.
Speaker 1: So smokers, smokers for meat, Moche overrated. No, so you
Speaker 1: could tell the difference between a smoke brisket and a
Speaker 1: barbecue whatever.
Speaker 3: Right now. If Rusty Johnson is.
Speaker 12: Listening, remember Rusty yah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: He brought in Dolly. While he brings in like these
Speaker 3: gorm like the dudes like unbelievable brisket, he goes into
Speaker 3: barbecue comte he does. He brings in these gourmet hamburgers.
Speaker 3: Henderson didn't want to try it.
Speaker 5: There was a lot on it. There was a lot.
Speaker 3: He had his ham and cheese sandwich. He was all
Speaker 3: happy and he didn't want to try like one of these,
Speaker 3: like you know so good, Like seriously, if you can
Speaker 3: have a smoker. Now. The key thing with the smoker, though,
Speaker 3: was the time, right, right, you got to put stuff.
Speaker 3: We'll tell you a story about Rusty. This is what
Speaker 3: he did. So Winter tournament one year, the Big Bang
Speaker 3: up in Colonna. I got some interesting news there by
Speaker 3: the way. I'll share this with you when I'm done.
Speaker 3: So the Big Bang, he phones me, says, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: here with my truck, blah blah blah. I got to
Speaker 3: get to the golf course. It's like ninive at night,
Speaker 3: and finally I got a hold of somebody of the course.
Speaker 3: They opened the gates up and he had a smoker
Speaker 3: going the whole night. He just stayed there and had
Speaker 3: the smoker. So like he smoked the brisket for like
Speaker 3: what I like, I don't know, eight nine, ten hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, case.
Speaker 3: So the key with smoking is if you're gonna do it, it
Speaker 3: takes time, right. You just can't put stuff in a
Speaker 3: smoker for half an hour. Yeah, you're talking several hours.
Speaker 3: And the more hours, I guess the more the longer
Speaker 3: it's in there the better. The other thing I wanted
Speaker 3: to touch base with. We've got a tremendous amount of
Speaker 3: support with the Big Bang. Special thank you to mister
Speaker 3: Lamark Doman who has sponsored a couple of gold sponsorships,
Speaker 3: Mister Mike Fuller from the Fuller Group, Joey's Cactus King
Speaker 3: taps Earl's all going to be at the events. A
Speaker 3: big thank you to him and Aquiline Investments has made
Speaker 3: so a big thank you to Aquoline Investments Francesco Aqualenean company,
Speaker 3: because they've donated the money. And what we're going to
Speaker 3: do is those spots will be taken up by the
Speaker 3: clonear CMP, So they're generously donating those spots to the
Speaker 3: first responders in Colonna with the clone ar CMP.
Speaker 5: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, And your list of celebs is great, growing
Speaker 1: and growing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I keep seeing it on your Instagram.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just you know, trying to get as many
Speaker 3: guys as we can. The hockey players are always the
Speaker 3: latest to commet. So we got about you know, twelve guys,
Speaker 3: twelve to fifteen guys were working on But we'll have
Speaker 3: some more announcements here in the couple of weeks coming
Speaker 3: up to volunteer this year.
Speaker 5: Henderson, your tournament's on a Monday.
Speaker 1: We do on a Monday, Donnie, take like a six
Speaker 1: day week. That's that is a possibility. Thanks, Moje. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to you next week.
Speaker 3: Let's have a good weekend.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Bob the Moje mar Jonovitch the voice of
Speaker 1: the BC Lions, and you mentioned it.
Speaker 5: Rick.
Speaker 1: CFL season open with a bang last night to Montreal
Speaker 1: over Hamilton thirty to twenty seven in overtime. Lions Week
Speaker 1: one bye, they get in, they get their action, regular
Speaker 1: season action going next week in Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan defending Champs
Speaker 1: Week one by two. Very odd moved by the CFL.
Speaker 1: That's the point.
Speaker 5: You want those two top teams playing a week.
Speaker 1: I would think so. But anyway, the Lions. I understand
Speaker 1: what the World Cup and everything, but Saskatchewan's a bit
Speaker 1: on anyway. On the other side poll question, we'll also
Speaker 1: talk about Don Garber's interesting comments yesterday in Montreal about Vancouver.
Speaker 1: That's ahead. It's Donny Dall the team on check.
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Speaker 5: Quinn, get her up the waddling dog pup pole question.
Speaker 5: What is Manny Maoltzer's number one job as the Canucks
Speaker 5: head coach leading the way develop young players sixty four percent?
Speaker 5: Then comes improve the culture way at the bottom, turn
Speaker 5: around EP forty and lose games. The Canucks heading into
Speaker 5: a rebuild. They got a ton of draft picks coming,
Speaker 5: a lot of young kids coming, and developing those kids
Speaker 5: is what the people want many Maultzer to do. Number
Speaker 5: one Ryan Johnson said he will not be judging on
Speaker 5: wins and losses. He will be judged on culture and
Speaker 5: developing young players. And absolutely the right answer on this pole,
Speaker 5: one hundred percent.
Speaker 10: I will judge them if they win a bunch of games,
Speaker 10: I will judge them, judge them like judgement badly. I'd
Speaker 10: like it because if they win a bunch of games
Speaker 10: and they do really well, like kind of how Calgary
Speaker 10: like exceed expectations this year, I'll toudge them hard because
Speaker 10: I want because they need to lose every game.
Speaker 1: But again, Quinn, what's what how do you tell your players?
Speaker 5: I mean, can't tell them before, Hey, guys lose so
Speaker 5: we can get the first round pick. When you have
Speaker 5: a draft lottery that screws you and you drop from
Speaker 5: one to three.
Speaker 1: I still I still don't. I don't know. I still
Speaker 1: don't anticipate them like, you know, pushing for a playoff
Speaker 1: spot or anything. I just don't. I just don't. I
Speaker 1: just look at the roster and I just don't. I
Speaker 1: just don't see that as a as an avenue. Okay,
Speaker 1: we mentioned it. U Don Garber, MLS commissioner in Montreal
Speaker 1: yesterday Rick he was there visiting the Montreal the Big
Speaker 1: O to see ongoing renovations that are happening at Olympic
Speaker 1: Stadium's roof. Because the Montreal CF Montreal, the MLS team
Speaker 1: there is gonna have to play in the Big O
Speaker 1: when they moved to this new calendar during the winter months,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to get out of their stadium and
Speaker 1: go into the Big O. So they're putting money into
Speaker 1: the Big O' and that's where they're going to play.
Speaker 1: But Don Garber was asked about the white Caps current
Speaker 1: situation and this was the not really update Don Garbert
Speaker 1: gave media yesterday on the Caps.
Speaker 13: There's nothing really to update on Vancouver. They're working to
Speaker 13: try to come up with a solution. The solution we've
Speaker 13: asked for. There is a better lease. It's not close
Speaker 13: to what I think we'll be able to achieve here.
Speaker 13: That in of itself is concerning to me. We don't
Speaker 13: have the corporate support in Vancouver and in the province
Speaker 13: that even this team has on its own, but certainly
Speaker 13: we believe we'd be able to achieve in a better
Speaker 13: dynamic in BC place, there's very little corporate support and
Speaker 13: there is no path to a better solution yet. You know,
Speaker 13: I'm an optimist. As I said in the other questions,
Speaker 13: I hope to see something come together. If it does,
Speaker 13: as I've said before, you got an untenable situation you've
Speaker 13: got to solve and those are the tough choices you
Speaker 13: have to make. But I don't compare the two at all.
Speaker 13: Like I said before, it was a stated goal of
Speaker 13: our league to support soccer in Canada. The numbers I
Speaker 13: think are twenty eight players have played in twenty two
Speaker 13: and coming up in twenty six that have come up
Speaker 13: through MLS academies or come through our system. Thirty eight
Speaker 13: And think of that number, and would that number be
Speaker 13: there if it wasn't for what Major League Soccer was done.
Speaker 13: I think the answer is no, it wouldn't be. So
Speaker 13: we've built it, We've done our job, and now we've
Speaker 13: got to figure out how the Canadian clubs can develop
Speaker 13: and manage businesses that can be not the bottom of
Speaker 13: the table, but be in the middle of top of
Speaker 13: the table. I wouldn't think that anybody who's Canadian would
Speaker 13: want to see anything other than that.
Speaker 5: This.
Speaker 1: I shake my head at this guy, first of all,
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of people are going to
Speaker 1: say this is a media thing, Rick, and the media
Speaker 1: is crying whatever. I don't know the last date Don
Speaker 1: Garber got in front of MIC's like he did there
Speaker 1: yesterday here in this city where he.
Speaker 5: Did last time he came, he didn't.
Speaker 1: He was here for the FIFA Council around that time
Speaker 1: and he didn't talk to the reporters. He had the
Speaker 1: meeting with Ebe where he sent out the hack tweet.
Speaker 1: If anybody's still believing that, no, right, remember he called
Speaker 1: him liar, liar, pants on fire and then they deleted
Speaker 1: that and claimed it was a hack. I call bs
Speaker 1: on that, but if you want to believe it, go ahead.
Speaker 1: He did an interview with the CP I believe with
Speaker 1: Jemma Carson Smith in November yep, around a visit here,
Speaker 1: but again didn't face the mics. The only clips we
Speaker 1: ever get from this commissioner are in other cities or
Speaker 1: other podcasts where he talks about the white Caps. We
Speaker 1: never have any media here that gets to talk to
Speaker 1: the guy ever. So that's number one. Number two him
Speaker 1: the arrogance of saying like the MLS has built it,
Speaker 1: and now it's basically on you guys. MLS is built
Speaker 1: what I'm sorry this league. He acts like this league
Speaker 1: is edging out any of the Big four. They're nowhere close.
Speaker 1: You bring it up they have peanuts on Apple. There's
Speaker 1: only the reason why they're releasing their numbers on Apple
Speaker 1: starting this season is because they actually have some data
Speaker 1: they want to share. Before that, it's been in embarrassment.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Nobody in this market is tuning in for
Speaker 1: any MLS games outside of involving the white Caps.
Speaker 5: It's not happening. He can say whatever he wants, that's fine.
Speaker 1: The other thing that bugs me about this guy is
Speaker 1: he never apologized to this city for the way Messi
Speaker 1: urinated all over them the first time when he decided
Speaker 1: he wasn't coming here. So when you want to tell
Speaker 1: me all about the MLS is growing the game and
Speaker 1: all this crap he throws around all the time, it
Speaker 1: was really a false promise because Messi, in his first
Speaker 1: chance to come to the city left fifty five thousand
Speaker 1: people disappointed when he didn't get on a plane because
Speaker 1: the travel was too far. So save me on that.
Speaker 1: I just I'm so tired of hearing from him about
Speaker 1: the situation. He clearly doesn't want it to work here
Speaker 1: in Vancouver. He'd rather go to Vegas or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I hate that for this soccer community. I hate that
Speaker 1: for soccer fans in this community. But I hope our
Speaker 1: government doesn't budge an inch, because you bring it up
Speaker 1: all the time, Rick, A lot of people are hurting
Speaker 1: money wise right now. They shouldn't be pumping money to
Speaker 1: help this this franchise. They shouldn't. They shouldn't be helping
Speaker 1: him because you know why, you know what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: after that. Then the Lions are gonna want money, and
Speaker 1: the Knucks are gonna want money, and all these teams
Speaker 1: are gonna want money. And we don't do that here
Speaker 1: in Canada. It happens in the States, where you can
Speaker 1: put places against each other exactly. You're seeing news today
Speaker 1: out of Chicago and the Bears moving to Indiana technically
Speaker 1: for their new stadium. It happens in the States. It
Speaker 1: doesn't happen in Canada. And he needs to figure that out,
Speaker 1: stopping all these threats, all these press conferences where he
Speaker 1: rips into how awful it is here in Vancouver. Just
Speaker 1: enough with that, Like he was comparing the Big O
Speaker 1: to BC place, that's different planets. Man, The renovation job.
Speaker 1: That the stadium's too big, it's way too big. But
Speaker 1: the renovation of that building over there, it's world class.
Speaker 1: And this guy, I'm just so sick of hearing from him.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of it. I'm tired of hearing that there's
Speaker 1: no corporate support in this market. Yet the Lions do
Speaker 1: quite fine. I know the payrolls are different. The Knucks
Speaker 1: do quite fine. The Canucks have a higher payroll than
Speaker 1: the white Caps, so I don't know how that they
Speaker 1: have all these corporate sponsors in the White camps have none.
Speaker 5: Apparently there's not a single corporate dollar to be had
Speaker 5: for the white Caps.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: He bugs me, Don Garber bugs the hell he comes in,
Speaker 5: by the way.
Speaker 1: By the way again, sorry, Rick, I've asked numerous times
Speaker 1: for him to be on our show. I'd never even
Speaker 1: get a respond For the MLS. Never, No, for you
Speaker 1: soccer fans out there that you know cry about coverage
Speaker 1: and all that we're trying, this is what happens when
Speaker 1: you reach out to the MLS. Absolutely so, like I say,
Speaker 1: it was really disappointed yesterday and I just thought, again,
Speaker 1: he's talking from another location about Vancouver and he won't
Speaker 1: step to Mike's here and address the situation.
Speaker 5: It's incredibly disappointing. Ricky, you got pastime, Oh yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: out today. It might be hard to see. Michael Dickerson.
Speaker 1: I remember him, Vancouver Grizzly, one of my favorite Grizzlies,
Speaker 1: Young Ryan, one of my favorite Grizzlies. Michael Dickerson.
Speaker 5: He was good, he was he was very good, very good.
Speaker 1: So I pulled that out because of course tonight game
Speaker 1: number two Nix and Spurs and San Antonio. And if
Speaker 1: you have an extra one hundred thousand dollars lying around
Speaker 1: and you want to go check out a basketball game,
Speaker 1: you can go to Game three at Madison Square Garden
Speaker 1: and see the Knicks at Spurs the resale market for
Speaker 1: that game game three, and you brought this up break
Speaker 1: before the show. That's with the current situation. If the
Speaker 1: Knicks go up two to oh I cannot imagine, not
Speaker 1: even for Game three, but what they're the game four
Speaker 1: costs going to look like. If they have a potential
Speaker 1: to sweep. It's not gonna happen, but they have the
Speaker 1: potential to sweep and win a title in New York. Oh,
Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine what those costs will look like.
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Speaker 1: this summer. Rick Grouse Mountain, Oh, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've seen this or not, a lot of viral evidence
Speaker 1: of this. They have a new neighbor. Look at this.
Speaker 1: The cut at Grouse Mountain is unveiled the largest Canadian
Speaker 1: flag ever, five hundred and twenty five feet long, Rick
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty two feet wide. Look at it.
Speaker 1: Just in time for the world of Cup. It breaks
Speaker 1: the world's record. The old record was five twenty five
Speaker 1: by two sixty two, so it's a little bit bigger.
Speaker 1: Three thousand pound flag was transported up the mountain by
Speaker 1: truck and trailer using a back access road. Look at that.
Speaker 1: That last shot there was from downtown. You can see
Speaker 1: it from there, of course you can.
Speaker 5: Seventy people. Rick set this thing up on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a highly visible tribute to Canada during
Speaker 1: a summer when Vancouver is welcome, welcoming the world. So
Speaker 1: it's for the World Cup.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but it should be the other way.
Speaker 10: It should be this way. Yeah, it should be landscape. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I don't know, Like that's I mean, it's super cool.
Speaker 10: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: But the only thing is Quinn. If you go that way,
Speaker 1: it's got to be smaller.
Speaker 10: So then would you see it go like taller though?
Speaker 5: The length it's all about the length. O. No, it's
Speaker 5: it's it's about width and length that you got.
Speaker 1: Just because you can see there the cut right, you
Speaker 1: can only go so far.
Speaker 10: Between you get taller and then go the other ways.
Speaker 10: Maybe it'd be way cooler if you saw it, because
Speaker 10: I mean, it's still really cool.
Speaker 1: Seeing it from downtown like that, like seeing that shot
Speaker 1: is outstanding. It is, it's it's it's a good touch.
Speaker 1: It's a good touch. And you're seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: this pop up now. And by the way, the best
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Speaker 10: I feel like the vibe around the World Cup is kindished,
Speaker 10: it's it's it's great, it's growing now that you're seeing
Speaker 10: more and more stuff around the city.
Speaker 1: Now. Now, I will say this, Quinn, We're down here
Speaker 1: five days a week, so we feel that we see that.
Speaker 1: I don't know people that don't come downtown. Are you
Speaker 1: feeling that you see it everywhere and stores and that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. But I don't know if you're feeling
Speaker 1: a buzz, I'm not so sure. And will it pick
Speaker 1: up his games begin? Probably hold it a second. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you both the heads up. Canucks are going
Speaker 1: to the draft soon. There's going to be July first signings.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you the Canucks could sign Curtis Douglas during
Speaker 1: the FIFA World Cup and it'll be a bigger story
Speaker 1: in this city. I'm just and don't don't shoot the messenger.
Speaker 9: I agree.
Speaker 5: Donnie and I were at the Great Cup in Calgary
Speaker 5: many years ago doing a show on a Friday night,
Speaker 5: and we're there to talk about the Great Cup and
Speaker 5: and Eclucci it lets in a week goal they're playing
Speaker 5: in Detroit. Our whole show, it's all people wanted to
Speaker 5: talk about was the Canucks, and we were at the
Speaker 5: Great Cup, sent to Calgary to do a show. I
Speaker 5: guarantee you the Great Cups different from just Quinn. The
Speaker 5: Canucks are going to make some big moves here in
Speaker 5: the next little while. I guarantee you that news will
Speaker 5: be bigger the soccer if I'd plays. Okay, let's say,
Speaker 5: let's say Canada is playing, and then the next Friday,
Speaker 5: next Friday, and the next morning the Canucks make a
Speaker 5: big sign. I'm just giving you, guys the heads up
Speaker 5: and you'll see Twitter you'll up giving.
Speaker 10: You the head everybody knows, like if Canada wins, everybody
Speaker 10: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 9: Douglas gets resigned. I don't think.
Speaker 5: I just I'm giving you a heads up so when
Speaker 5: it happens, just be prepared. Birthdays. I hope you're prepared
Speaker 5: for those hoold on of set birthdays there we go, Quinn,
Speaker 5: get it up. The birthdays brought to you by Donnie
Speaker 5: and Dallies, back scratchers and dental floss and pouring them
Speaker 5: in in where I don't.
Speaker 1: See zach Alberta.
Speaker 5: It's between you guys there, well sign, where's Balzac, Alberta.
Speaker 5: I know it's in Alberta. I lived in Alberta one year.
Speaker 5: I don't see it in the sign.
Speaker 1: It's between you guys.
Speaker 5: It's in the middle of you. It's to the back there,
Speaker 5: belgieck Yeah, Okay, listen this guy. I'm gonna get you
Speaker 5: Quinn today. Last week you were too quick quick draw McGraw.
Speaker 5: You guys, remember quick Brad McGrath. I don't know, no,
Speaker 5: both of course you wouldn't. Seventh overall pick by Los
Speaker 5: Angeles in nineteen eighty eight, I want to Quebec Major
Speaker 5: Junior Hockey League title with Hall reached the Stanley Cup
Speaker 5: Final with four teams. Remember the Oiders nineteen ninety championship
Speaker 5: team at the age of nineteen played on the kid
Speaker 5: line in Edmonton with Joe Murphy and Adam Graves. Tied
Speaker 5: a record in two thousand and four three series winning
Speaker 5: goals in one playoff year nineteen ninety three, the Canucks
Speaker 5: pick him up on waivers. Great move by pac Quinn
Speaker 5: uh sixteen points and thirty three games to end the
Speaker 5: regular season of Vancouver nine more points in the Canucks.
Speaker 5: Stanley CP ninety four run ninety five named the Canucks
Speaker 5: unsung hero. You too are pathetic and you this is
Speaker 5: Ryan should get this. Yeah, you're ninety four. Oh I
Speaker 5: love ninety four.
Speaker 1: I don't love Martin.
Speaker 5: You're read me Martin, Martin Jellina. Oh so you two
Speaker 5: don't get it. And Derek comes out of the blue. Ridiculous,
Speaker 5: you cheated.
Speaker 9: How do you know what?
Speaker 1: Don't sell him short?
Speaker 9: Jellen No, with one of my favorites. In ninety four.
Speaker 5: There you go, all right, that's suspicious, very very very suspicious.
Speaker 5: Great guy. Jelenas scored four goals in a game at
Speaker 5: home at Rogers. Rena was there. It was a beautiful night. Okay,
Speaker 5: this guy right here, third round pick guy in nineteen
Speaker 5: eighty three by the Red Wings. Won an OHLD title
Speaker 5: with the Sue Greyhounds nineteen eighty seven. Sixty two points
Speaker 5: for the Red Wings played in the NHL All Star
Speaker 5: Game one year in Detroit. He scored twenty nine goals,
Speaker 5: three hundred and ninety eight minutes and penalties. Nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 5: Signed with the Blackhawks after numerous off ice incident no
Speaker 5: off ice incidents in Detroit.
Speaker 9: Bob Robert, Yeah Probert, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got it? Yeah right, you should have had
Speaker 5: That's bad. How do you not know? Bob Probert and
Speaker 5: two of his most famous fights fights with Craig Cox
Speaker 5: in Vancouver. One of Vancouver won in Detroit. Still two
Speaker 5: of the best fights ever in Caduck's history. Anyways, this actor,
Speaker 5: I love this actor. I tell you, boy, I watch
Speaker 5: every one of his movies. Nominated for two Academy Awards.
Speaker 5: That's not so Hold on a say it is a clue.
Speaker 5: You know what type of movies are like? I love
Speaker 5: this guy. A big screen debut came with Danny DeVito
Speaker 5: in Renaissance Man, The Danny de Vito, Weino, The Danny
Speaker 5: DeVito the Actor. He had his first starring role in
Speaker 5: James Foley's thriller Fear, Remember Fear. Fear was a good movie.
Speaker 5: He was in Basketball Diaries with Leonardo DiCaprio as are bad.
Speaker 5: Originally cast in Ocean's Eleven, but Matt Damon got the role. Instead,
Speaker 5: he played Max Payne in the video game of the
Speaker 5: same name. He was in Date Night with Steve Carroll
Speaker 5: and Tina Fey. Are you guys serious? Do you want
Speaker 5: me to keep going? When you hear his name, you're
Speaker 5: gonna go. Yeah. He was in the remake of The Gambler. Okay, here,
Speaker 5: here it is. If you don't get it after this,
Speaker 5: both of you, take your headset off, get out of thee. Sure.
Speaker 5: He was in The Perfect Storm, Planet of the Apes
Speaker 5: Mark Wahlberger, Thank you, Italian job. Oh, Italian Job. Was
Speaker 5: a great movie. Boogie Knights.
Speaker 1: Who is it Mark? Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 5: He was in The Dirt. He was Dirk Diddler, No,
Speaker 5: Dirk Diggler in Boogie Knights. Who hasn't seen Boogie Nights?
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the movie Patriots Dame?
Speaker 5: He was, yeah, Dutch mel Gibson, No, no, no. But
Speaker 5: he was a portn star in the Dirk Biggler in
Speaker 5: Boogie Night. Yeah. Yeah. Patriot's Day he was. He was
Speaker 5: one of the cops the Oh yeah, I saw Patriots
Speaker 5: Day in Boston Boston Marathon by Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 5: was good. And he was Marky Mark the Funky Bunch
Speaker 5: so so, this is one of the rare days. We
Speaker 5: was in the Marky Funk. He was Marky Funk in
Speaker 5: the Funky Bunch.
Speaker 1: This is one of the rare days. Your your your birthday.
Speaker 5: Is playing us out. What do you mean Mark Welberg
Speaker 5: and the Funky Bunch are gonna play us out? Oh yeah?
Speaker 5: He had some good hits.
Speaker 1: Well, good vibrations, good vibrations, big one.
Speaker 5: Okay, just stop, we got one more, We got one more. Okay,
Speaker 5: this is what This is one of my favorite actors
Speaker 5: of all time. This guy's good. He's been nominated for
Speaker 5: the Academy Awards every one of his movies. I watch
Speaker 5: his films of grossed eleven point seven billion. That that
Speaker 5: that means nothing exactly. It tells you he's a big name. Okay,
Speaker 5: it tells you the fact he's game rad out billions.
Speaker 5: He tells you Greenny's a big name. He was with
Speaker 5: Mel Gibson in The Bounty, Oh Great Field. He was
Speaker 5: with Robert de Niro in The Mission. He was with
Speaker 5: Clint Eastwood in the Deadpool. What Deadpool?
Speaker 1: Not that Deadpool?
Speaker 5: Hold on a second, it was a dirty Harry film Deadpool.
Speaker 1: Quinn's thinking Deadpool like Ryan.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, This was eighty eight, a great movie
Speaker 5: by Yeah Clinton. Nineteen ninety nine. He was in the
Speaker 5: Haunting supernatural horror film with Catherine Azeita Jones. He was
Speaker 5: in Gangs in New York? Are you guys kidding me?
Speaker 5: Gangs in New York. He was in the movie Taken
Speaker 5: was a big hit. That's Itelsen, he's a big Rangers fan. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's in They've.
Speaker 1: Done what fifteen Takens At.
Speaker 5: This point he was in the A team, great great film,
Speaker 5: and but the most he was Oscar Schindler in Yeah
Speaker 5: that's right. Yeah, that's that's when he took off. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so there you go, Liam Niels.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, as I mentioned to play us out today,
Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg, I love him fifty five years old, this
Speaker 1: would kind of be in your era. I think this
Speaker 1: if it's if it's good vibrations, Yeah, this would. This
Speaker 1: is a great song from ninety one in the album
Speaker 1: Music for the People, Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch
Speaker 1: with good Vibrations. Is it just me? It's coming up next?
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Speaker 5: All right? When's the last time Vancouver and a player
Speaker 5: that cares so much that he broke down on national
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Speaker 1: It was a very it was you know, it was
Speaker 1: a heartbreaking watch when he was at his locker and
Speaker 1: he had to step away there. Rick earlier this week
Speaker 1: when he did the locker clean out. But he's obviously
Speaker 1: incredibly tied to Montreal, but they clearly are going in
Speaker 1: a different direction. This is from Walton Big Twis. It
Speaker 1: all depends on what you're cooking on the smoker. Ryot's
Speaker 1: back to our smoker talk. Roasts are basically the same
Speaker 1: amount of time than irregular barbecues. Your smoker temper is
Speaker 1: usually three hundred and fifty. Briskets and pulled pork generally
Speaker 1: take longer. It's it's lower and a slower cook for fun,
Speaker 1: yesterday I did lasagna on it and it was delicious.
Speaker 1: Lasagna on the smoker, what just put it in the
Speaker 1: oven like everybody else. By the way, lasagna is overrated,
Speaker 1: that's my hot take. But lasagna is very overrated.
Speaker 9: That makes no sense.
Speaker 5: But I think you take Lazagna's overrate.
Speaker 1: Lasagna is overrated. It is. Do you like pasta? I
Speaker 1: love pasta, so no, no lasagna. You just don't need
Speaker 1: layer on, layer on, layer on.
Speaker 9: It's the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: I'd rather space it out.
Speaker 5: The thickness of the cheese on the lasagna. Oh, how
Speaker 5: can you say nor to lazagna? You know what kind
Speaker 5: of guy.
Speaker 1: I'd just rather like ravioli or a totally cheese on top.
Speaker 5: I'd rather that cheese on the lasagnia. Where's your head at?
Speaker 5: Where's your head at?
Speaker 10: I think when I'm older, I want to be like
Speaker 10: a smoker guy. Just like have a smoker and just
Speaker 10: sit around it when every weekend or something.
Speaker 1: Check out my meat.
Speaker 5: Go The ruck Towins have said they want to play together,
Speaker 5: and one of the reasons your rateds will HI is
Speaker 5: your play together. If a team takes one, they better
Speaker 5: have a plan to take the other one. If they're
Speaker 5: still available at twenty four, the Canucks should try and
Speaker 5: make a deal for twenty five for the other that's
Speaker 5: RP and White Rock.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I say, the Rock situation will be very very
Speaker 1: interesting to watch at the draft, And Quinn brings up
Speaker 1: the point that I agree with. You know, if so
Speaker 1: whatever team gets the first one, if you're the second team,
Speaker 1: are you gonna want to take a chance and bring
Speaker 1: in a solo one.
Speaker 10: I'm not so sure it could work out too, Like
Speaker 10: if a team in front of the Canucks, like the
Speaker 10: Flames or something, picks one of the brothers, then the
Speaker 10: Canucks should totally try to offer their picks. Yeah, like
Speaker 10: maybe for other teams to move up and like accumulate
Speaker 10: more picks and stuff.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Uh this is from amrit Is it just me? But
Speaker 1: if the Canuck pass on Stenbourg to draft Malhulture will
Speaker 1: be a massive mistake. They will give the Blackhawks a
Speaker 1: franchise winger, which will prevent Badard leaving them in the future.
Speaker 1: All these people that like already have Connor Badard coming
Speaker 1: here to Vancouver. I don't know, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to tell you. But it's so it's so far away,
Speaker 1: like this assumption they're from here that they should him
Speaker 1: and Macklin are both gonna end up here.
Speaker 5: I don't know. The Chicago's got a ton of cap space.
Speaker 5: I mean, they've managed your cap despite the losing pretty
Speaker 5: darn good. Ryan. Our provincial government pumped seven hundred million
Speaker 5: dollars into the FIFA World Cup during hard times for
Speaker 5: its citizens.
Speaker 1: Burnaby Paul, Yeah, they did. Now hold on First of all,
Speaker 1: that's a great point. First of all, First of all,
Speaker 1: a lot of the money is not in one lump sum.
Speaker 1: It's been going on since they've been planning the World Cup.
Speaker 1: That's number one, and number two. That was a different
Speaker 1: government that signed on with the World Cup at least,
Speaker 1: well at least a different you know, person in charge
Speaker 1: with John Horgan. And I just don't think that, you
Speaker 1: know the answer is to just give the MLS all
Speaker 1: this bag of money that they seemingly look for in
Speaker 1: all of these cities. I don't think it's right. I'm
Speaker 1: getting ripped for the lasagna thing. Up next, our final
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Speaker 1: Patrick gran is born to be alive. He probably likes lasagna.
Speaker 1: Hopping and bopping your way into the weekend might be
Speaker 1: some bad one.
Speaker 5: That's a bad take. Who doesn't like lasagna?
Speaker 10: It's too much and you're describing it to me, like
Speaker 10: on the break and you're like, who.
Speaker 1: Wants cheese beef and you know pass that. No, this
Speaker 1: somebody sent in the recipe and there's like nine million ingredients.
Speaker 1: Who I don't want all of that?
Speaker 5: One more different cheeses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want. I don't need all of that,
Speaker 1: not because I like to parse my.
Speaker 5: It's healthy, it's healthy. Hold hold in a second. Hockey
Speaker 5: players eat it before games. Lasagna kids carbloaded, carbloaded, have
Speaker 5: some You don't even know the dynamics of lasagna. But
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say it's healthy.
Speaker 1: It's healthy.
Speaker 5: Spaghetti lasagna, kids eat that before games. Yeah, I just
Speaker 5: confirmed confirm that again, it's confirmed. Sure your shirt on.
Speaker 1: Okay, man, we're out of time. We're at a time
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be able to show the We're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to show the pole question you were?
Speaker 1: You screwed it all lot.
Speaker 5: You nerd it up with a stupid take from Lasagna.
Speaker 5: Let's get the picture in.
Speaker 1: We can't, we don't have time.
Speaker 9: We gotta go, We gotta go twenty Ryan uh.
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in everyone. We'll be back on Monday
Speaker 1: talk more about the Stanley Cup Final and much more.
Speaker 1: Enjoy some of Lasagna this weekend. I'm riting Interested along
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