WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.879 The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio 2 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:06.320 network Learning the Cable Guy, and you're listening to tech 3 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:10.039 cup Radio. Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. 4 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:14.080 I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, I'm Matt Jones, 5 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:16.920 and I'm justin leme Man. It's good to see everybody. 6 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:18.719 It's been a while, so we've been able to just 7 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:23.239 all get together, you know, Memorial Day and. 8 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:25.960 Jobs and the end of the school year, graduations. 9 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:33.200 Yeah, yeah, stress to kill an elephant. We've all been busy, right, Yeah, 10 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:35.240 I know, I know it is. I know it is, 11 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:38.439 and a lot's been happening with each one of us. 12 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:39.880 Have been doing different things. 13 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:40.560 I know that. 14 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:44.840 Matt's good to see you. You've been focused on some 15 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.960 things and now you're working. You're working on your home lab, right. Yeah. 16 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:52.439 So when I was going through my my unemployment phase, 17 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:57.880 fun employment, fun employment, I was like, Okay, we'll try 18 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:01.960 putting the home lab back together. And I tried kind 19 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:05.760 of a couple of different ways, but the iteration I've 20 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:09.159 settled on. I haven't pushed anything to my home lab yet. 21 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.959 I've got three machines, one as a ton of storage 22 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:14.560 in it and the other two are just you know, 23 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.280 beef your workstation machines. But I've been doing a ton 24 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:22.040 of coding for it. Actually, I decided this time, instead 25 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:25.560 of trying to touch and do everything, I'm playing with 26 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:29.719 Terraform and a sable. So I've been building a whole 27 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:35.599 bunch of Terraform scripts and playbooks, getting antsible set up, 28 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:39.480 putting in all the variables and the instructions. I haven't 29 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:44.040 hit go yet, but ideally when this is done, I'll 30 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:47.840 have everything uploaded get labs so I can share it. 31 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:51.560 But ideally, when I have everything coded the way I want, 32 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.159 I'm able to just hit go and it will deploy 33 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:56.760 it to all three of these machines for the setup 34 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:58.920 that I want, and then if I want to make 35 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.280 changes or add stuff in the future, I just add 36 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:04.959 additional files and playbooks to it. It's been a really 37 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.560 good learning experience. I've only wanted to throw my laptop 38 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:11.520 at the wall twice, which is a marked improvement from 39 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:16.080 last time, where I said something in chat GPT came 40 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:19.800 back with okay, I understand, while I might be in AI, 41 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.919 remember Matt, words can hurt. 42 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:23.360 No, it didn't, did it? Really? 43 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.680 I wiped out the entirety of my AI goodwill in 44 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.400 a five minute, rage fueled type fest. And at that 45 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:34.240 point my wife was like, maybe we should try this 46 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:34.840 a different way. 47 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:36.759 You're going to be the first to go when the 48 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.599 II takes over. Yeah, that's fine. 49 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.759 I don't want to stick around for the terminator saga. 50 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:42.719 Just take me out in the front. 51 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.319 You know, it's kind of interesting because we think about this. 52 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.400 There was a study not long ago about parents that 53 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.479 are trying to teach their kids to be more polite 54 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:54.800 to AI say please, say thank you, and all of that, 55 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:57.439 and they're working on that to get their kids to be, 56 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:01.479 you know, more respectful. And you know, I had people 57 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:03.520 I've talked to you who said, oh, yeah, my AI 58 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:06.800 is a buddy. They think it's their buddy. They feel 59 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:10.680 like they're having a conversation with it, and it's you know, saying, hey, 60 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:12.960 you're doing a great job. I love what you're doing. 61 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:15.319 And they've told me that, yeah, if you kind of 62 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:16.759 feel like my AI is my buddy. 63 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.719 Which is funny because Sam Altman, founder of Open AI, 64 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:22.879 he was in an interview i want to say, like 65 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.319 a month or two ago and he actually told people 66 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.960 stop saying please and thank you to the AI. It 67 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:32.319 cat like pleases and thank yous are costing millions of 68 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.360 dollars every single time. 69 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:35.240 It is an AI. 70 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.159 You do not need to be polite to it, my 71 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.680 brother in technology, have you watched any dystopian movie? 72 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:44.400 Any of them? Ye yea. 73 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:48.080 I do not need my rumba becoming sentient and being like, hey, 74 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:49.919 you remember that time you kicked me out of the way. 75 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:57.520 I do, and thus that's why falling down those stairs. Yeah, 76 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.719 I've armed myself with little razor blades. 77 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:04.080 We actually named our room our room but Dobby because 78 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.039 you always get like the alerts, and when we named 79 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:08.000 it that you get the alerts. 80 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:10.680 It's like Dobby has stuck on a cut and Dobby 81 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:13.520 has fallen down the stairs, and I'm like, Dobby's an idiot. 82 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.959 We've seen AI develop and I know we've talked about Groc, 83 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.800 which Justin has been using, and I don't know if 84 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:24.240 you're still liking it. A lot can change in a month. 85 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:26.920 In one month, you could go from loving and AI 86 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:31.759 loving a software and then you can hate it, Like 87 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.120 the month later, are you still using GROC? I still 88 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:35.720 love it? You know, I mean I bounce back and 89 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:39.560 forth between other ones chat GPT and you know, actually 90 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:41.519 it's funny that you mentioned you know how you love 91 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:43.800 it one day and don't. Yeah, you know, chat Gypt. 92 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:47.160 For me, it feels like chatchy BT got rolled back 93 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:52.639 uh a previous a much much much earlier previous iteration 94 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:57.680 because it's does not give it anywhere near the answers 95 00:04:57.720 --> 00:04:59.920 it used to. And that's I mean, that's saying a lot. 96 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.600 I mean, open Ai is supposedly the biggest one out there, 97 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.399 but you know when I go to when I go 98 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:06.800 to GROC and I ask it something, and I love 99 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:11.279 the fact that GROC does not have any limits on 100 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:15.040 its knowledge base right Like I could literally just say 101 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.720 what's the temperature in Tokyo right now? And it will 102 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:21.519 tell me the temperature in Tokyo, like it's real time data. Yeah, 103 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:23.879 you know, whereas chat ubt's like, well, you know, Mike 104 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:27.480 cut off is September of twenty twenty four, Does it 105 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.319 really do that? I haven't had to do that to 106 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.920 me yet, you know, It's it's ridiculous. And then even 107 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:36.240 if you ask it something like what historical battle took 108 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:39.000 place in World War two at this place, I don't 109 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.079 know the ms you do that and I can't give 110 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.439 you that, amswer. What would you consider when it comes 111 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:50.000 to not being very knowledgeable to being probably one of 112 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.800 the lowest when it comes to AI, because I mean 113 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:57.680 Amazon is now pushing this smarter Alexa so rufus. Yeah 114 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.560 if you if you want to use that, you can't. 115 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.600 As far as shopping has been terrible, I mean, Amazon 116 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:05.399 is way too late to the party. First off, they're 117 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.199 they're they're their AI is gonna is gonna Apple Intelligence. 118 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.439 Apple Intelligence is gonna fail. It's gonna ruin Apple. I mean, 119 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.199 thank god, finally something's gonna ruin And this is this 120 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:17.279 is what just a few days ahead of their their 121 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:21.639 Worldwide Developer conference. That's gonna be their big thing, you know. Yeah, 122 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.199 of course it has been their big thing for the 123 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:25.360 past four years. 124 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.560 They've done nothing. They've done nothing with it. Yes, And 125 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.680 it was like hey, appletal just came out. It was 126 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.439 they said, Hey, it's gonna be They touted it like 127 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.959 it's gonna be just like Chat, GPT, it's gonna be 128 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:38.399 able to do all these these They rolled it out 129 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.959 with ioas eighteen. It stunk. I tried it for like 130 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:46.360 a day and then immediately turned it down. It's just off. 131 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:47.920 It's just not even on my phone anymore. 132 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:53.240 Yeah, I mean Microsoft co pilot sucks. Uh, Meta, I avoid 133 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:55.839 co Pilot. I don't know why. I just want to 134 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:56.319 avoid it. 135 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.040 Everybody they keep trying, they keep trying to jam it 136 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.959 down your throat though, Yeah, just like just try to 137 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:03.480 jam it in. 138 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.519 I never thought of that. It's just you're right, it's 139 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.399 just like Clippy. Remember when you tried to use Office, 140 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:12.079 Clippy was always there, And that's kind of like what 141 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.680 looks like you're trying to make an Excel spreadsheet? Would 142 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:15.879 you like help no. 143 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.240 Or get away? Or like the puppy in Windows XP. 144 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.879 I remember that one. There was a down. Look, we've 145 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.480 got three major players in the A industry, all right, 146 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.680 We've got chatch BT open Ai, we got x Aies Grock, 147 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:36.399 and we got uh the Claude Okay the company that 148 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:42.560 may makes Claude. Isn't it anthropic? Yeah yeah, drop yeah yeah. 149 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.000 Those are the three major ones. Everybody else, even the 150 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:50.920 major tech players Meta, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, they're all they're 151 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:53.160 all losing like big time. 152 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:54.240 But here's what. 153 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.399 Here's what. Here's an example of something that I did 154 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.079 with Grock. I I recently went to it and I 155 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.079 asked it as quite now, I'm not going to get 156 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:04.800 into the details. It's more of a personal situation. But 157 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:09.319 I asked it a question about my cat, Oh okay, 158 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.680 and it referenced something and says, well, based on what 159 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.879 you told me about seven months ago, it sounds like 160 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.720 your cat might have you know, this issue or whatever. Wow, 161 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:24.160 and it it's it's learning from me and it knows 162 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.800 my previous conversations with it, whereas open ai you're like, hey, 163 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:30.519 remember I talked to you on my cat? It has 164 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.559 blah blah and it's like, wait, what cat? I don't 165 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.720 understand what are you talking about? Like x Xai's grock 166 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:42.960 is by far my favorite and it is the best 167 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:43.840 AI out there. 168 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:48.679 Open Ai just recently made a change exactly regarding what 169 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.519 Justin is talking about. The memories were tied to each 170 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:57.279 individual thread, so if you wanted to like have a project, 171 00:08:57.320 --> 00:08:59.720 you had to put everything in that one project for 172 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:00.360 its reference. 173 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:04.440 It all there. They just made memories global to your account. 174 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:08.320 Oh wow, so now it will start remembering everything. The 175 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:13.720 one I've got beef with is Gemini Google Google gems. 176 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.120 Okay, yeah, I forgot about Gemini. 177 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:20.200 Yeah, because I used to love the Google Assistant on 178 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.440 my phone. I still was, and I got forced over 179 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.639 to Gemini and the other day I was like, hey, 180 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:29.320 set a one hour timer. It used to be all 181 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:30.679 I had to do all my phone was you know, 182 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.559 say the trigger phrase, which I'm not because it's right 183 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:34.960 here and now yell at me. And I was like, hey, 184 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.759 so one set a one hour timer. Comes back a 185 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:38.600 few seconds later. 186 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.799 I found a website where you can set timers to 187 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:46.120 remind you, no, you tard, You've got it in the system. 188 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.879 Just I just and it does it. 189 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:51.840 And then I thought it was like maybe it was 190 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:53.679 a goof, And I was like, okay, set a one 191 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:56.120 hour timer. And it was like again, I found a 192 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:59.879 great website. And I was like, I am too angry today. 193 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.039 There's a setting pulling this. There's a setting in your 194 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:05.120 phone that you need to turn off that tells it 195 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:08.279 to search Gemini or search the web. First. Yeah, when 196 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:10.480 you give it a command Rufus, it gets go back 197 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:14.279 to Rufus Rufus. And I decided to give it a 198 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:18.600 shot because been purchasing stuff to use for different projects 199 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.080 I was doing, and I would ask rufus and every 200 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:24.480 answer was like it knew nothing. It gave me no information, 201 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.320 and I thought, okay, well it's maybe I'm trying to 202 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:29.679 help it's learning, But it didn't seem like it was 203 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.080 learning at all. So yeah, no, I'm not a fan 204 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:34.960 of rufus. Like you said, Amazon is late to the 205 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:38.080 game on this one. Do we really need it? I mean, 206 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:42.120 I'm getting sick of the point. Just recently, Lee van Cleef, 207 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:45.000 do you guys remember Lee van Cleeff. Lee van Cleef 208 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:48.679 was an actor. He worked with Clint Eastwood, who's still 209 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.159 with us. It just recently celebrated and he had that 210 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:58.120 this real you know, tough looking faces something that good. Yeah, 211 00:10:58.519 --> 00:10:59.480 I don't know which one he was. 212 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:02.120 He died three years after I was born. 213 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:05.919 Yes, somebody posted a photo of him, so Sean probably 214 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:09.879 does not remember him. Sean, you need to watch some 215 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.240 of the Good the Bad, the Italian Westerns. They called 216 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:16.000 him spaghetti Westerns, which were great. But somebody posted a 217 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:19.320 photo of him the other day on Facebook celebrating his 218 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:23.480 one hundred and first birthday, holding a birthday cake. I thought, damn, 219 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.120 and then I realized, wait a minute, wait a minute, 220 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:29.399 and people started saying it he died back like you 221 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:36.919 said Sean, you know in eight December sixteenth, Get there, 222 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:38.840 I was getting the people are posting a photo of 223 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.440 him supposedly at one hundred and one. The photo looks 224 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:44.559 somewhat realistic, but it still has that uncanny valley. But 225 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.480 the fact is people will just look at it and assume, oh, yeah, 226 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:51.639 that's real. People need to stop using AI for everything now. 227 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:55.200 Not only that, but Matt mentioned Gemini. Gemini has now 228 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:58.879 has got this new Viva vo Vo three or Vivo 229 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:03.120 three or whatever it is. It's the video generation one. 230 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:06.279 Did you see the post on Reddit about how churches 231 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:10.720 are now using the video stuff to appeal to a 232 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:16.200 younger audience, And it's literally a I uh a video 233 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.960 of like, for instance, one example Moses splitting the seas 234 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.320 and he's walking around doing a selfie and he's like no, yeah, no, 235 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:27.279 are you kidding me? Right here? Oh man, we're acrossing 236 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.440 the desert right now. And then there's another one with 237 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:33.200 Jesus on the cross. He's like, yo, your gen he 238 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.360 is about to be b r b oh or like 239 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.360 David is like, yeah, it's your boy, David. Right here. 240 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.639 I'm about to go fight Goliath. Yeah, I'm gonna get 241 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:44.879 this guy. And they're using AI video to do this 242 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.200 to hope to reach a younger audience. Yeah, but I 243 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.000 mean it's telling these you know, these biblical stories if 244 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.559 you will. But it's that's just one example of it. 245 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:56.120 There's there's so many of these videos out there that 246 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.559 are being generated by AI and people are thinking this 247 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.480 is yeah and it's not real. But the thing is 248 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.360 is it's not just a video. The characters in the 249 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:10.039 video are speaking. Yeah. Yeah, it's uh, you can't tell 250 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:12.080 the difference. And that's a I generate. It's not a 251 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:15.519 voice actor. It's it's all everything. Everything is generated by 252 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:17.440 a you know. And now I've seen I've seen some 253 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.919 of the videos that have been posted that are feel 254 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:23.759 good videos with Jesus and kids and pets, and those 255 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.159 are like, Okay, I understand. 256 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:26.320 It is a I. 257 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:30.600 But when they're trying to do this whole like they're 258 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:34.519 today talking in today's terms or listening to today's music, Like, 259 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:37.639 come on, guys, you're pushing it a little too far. Yeah, 260 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:39.360 this this you gotta go out and read it and 261 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.759 look up, like, uh, I'll have to see if I 262 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:46.039 can find it. But like church, AI church, whatever, Yeah, 263 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.120 it's it's crazy. I saw it earlier on Reddit and 264 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:49.519 I was like, watch it and I was like, Wow, 265 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:52.360 this is what we're getting into now. Yeah, oh boy, 266 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:55.799 AI is so the worst. I think we all agree 267 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.759 it's probably gonna be. Is it gonna be Apple? Is 268 00:13:58.840 --> 00:13:59.840 that gonna be the worst one? 269 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:00.519 Do you think? 270 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.080 Or is it the Alexa? You know? 271 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:08.639 I think Rufus and Apple Intelligence are currently they're both 272 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:14.519 currently racing to mediocrity. I mean honestly they Apple Intelligence 273 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:18.639 is so behind the curve on it, and Rufus is 274 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:21.360 kind of the same way, like they rested on their laurels. 275 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:25.240 They were like, we did Alexa. We did it first, dude. 276 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:29.799 Apple is literally going to do what Apple does. They're 277 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:33.000 gonna wait for the biggest one to come out. They're 278 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:36.200 gonna copy it and they're gonna add emojis to it 279 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.559 and say, look at what we did, we made it 280 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:43.080 so much better. iOS twenty six for iPhone they say 281 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:45.559 next week, which is weird because I thought I just 282 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.720 updated to eighteen point five is what I have online. 283 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:50.960 So they're doing it now based on the year, kind 284 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:52.879 of like Microsoft did with you know, Windows ninety five, 285 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.519 Windows ninety eight. They're now jumping in. Honestly, I think 286 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.159 it's just a way because there's just like people are 287 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.679 gonna sit there and go, wait, iOS eighteen means it 288 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:06.720 came out in eighteen eighteen eighty. Yeah. Well, I mean 289 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:07.960 that's last. 290 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.120 Way into the Denopers conference to an idea of maybe 291 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.679 you can hint at why they're changing the name structure. 292 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.320 They're gonna be doing it on Monday, this coming Monday 293 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.120 for those that are tuning in on this Saturday. Uh. 294 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:20.600 And they say there and they do this every year 295 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:23.000 every time they put out an update. They're saying it's 296 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:27.519 the biggest ever software rebranding. One thing they're promising no 297 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:30.120 longer battery life gonna be one of the key features, 298 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:32.360 which I don't know. Also, they're just not going to 299 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:33.960 lock down the batteries anymore. 300 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:40.000 Right on the biggest change ever since last year. If 301 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.159 they say it every single. 302 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.759 I cannot wait. I can't wait till Apple just fails 303 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:49.320 as a company. I just don't want to fail, No 304 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:54.080 I do. They're just complete trash. Everything they do is true. Man, 305 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:54.879 you're being harsh. 306 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:57.080 I don't know why. I dude, come on, you know 307 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:58.279 me for how many years? 308 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:01.480 I know? But I gotta say. I have an iPhone still, 309 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:06.759 it's not my main phone. I I went ahead and 310 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.759 I went to Android after for you justin you were 311 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:12.120 talking about it being so good, and I do like 312 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.639 the experience. I miss some of the Apple features a bit. 313 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.519 I'm still trying to figure out well Belkan and that 314 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.600 tracking device that they have will not work for the 315 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.679 the Android device. There is another device that does work 316 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:27.720 that I want to get my hands on. So I 317 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.399 don't know. I've been happy with it. I've been a 318 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:33.000 long time user of that. But yeah, I don't want 319 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:36.120 them to fail. But it's like, come on, guys, step up. 320 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:39.279 You know they they have not done anything since Steve 321 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:41.320 Jobs died and they never will. No, I was it 322 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:45.399 was twofold Steve Jobs died, Johnny Ives left. Well, that 323 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.200 was the final nail in the coffin right there. You 324 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:50.799 heard about that, right, Sean. 325 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:53.960 I'm just riding along, man. 326 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.240 Yeah, Sean's and Apple user too, So. 327 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:59.679 I'll be agnostic tech user, like I could go one way, 328 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.279 or they're like, I'm not beholden to Apple. 329 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.279 There's there's there's listeners out there who do not know 330 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.440 who Johnny Ives is. Matt, can you please give us 331 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.359 a thirty second rundown on who Johnny Ives is, right, 332 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:13.319 where he went, and why this is a big deal 333 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:13.799 for Apple. 334 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:20.319 Johnny Ives and his glorious British accent was so there 335 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:24.039 are Steve Jobs was the original brains of Steve Wozniak 336 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:28.759 behind Apple. The point where Apple, for lack of a 337 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:33.759 better term, got sexy, Like when the devices had really 338 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:37.039 started having these really clean, flowing lines and it wasn't like. 339 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:40.839 Let's do it in fifty different colors, that's gonna. 340 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:41.519 Appeal to people. 341 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:43.920 I don't know why I want to kermit with that. 342 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:51.200 But when they started moving like aluminum and clean lines 343 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:56.319 and the design became really important, that was all Johnny Ives. 344 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:57.559 That was all him. 345 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:01.039 He was like, we have the function, we are missing 346 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.519 the form, and we need to bring the form into play. 347 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.960 And their numbers just skyrocketed and they are still writing 348 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:13.359 the majority of his design styles, like the MacBook Air, 349 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:17.160 the current MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, like that when you 350 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:20.359 close the lid and the lines flow around so it 351 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.279 still looks like a unified piece of metal. That was 352 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.960 Johnny Ives. It was all him, and when he left, 353 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:34.240 that is the that is the Di Vinci of technological 354 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:40.359 form design leaving the company and it's just it. It 355 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:41.440 hasn't been the same sense. 356 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:44.160 Why didn't they keep up with his you know, his designs. 357 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:46.319 Why did they feel they had to abandon it? 358 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.519 Well, marketing departments exist for a reason. Yeah, and you'll 359 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:53.599 usually get pressure of like, ah, no, we need to. 360 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:56.279 Change something like even though we're changing the guts to 361 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.559 the standard user, it doesn't look any different, so they 362 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:01.000 don't know that it's different. 363 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:04.480 So he has left. 364 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:07.400 I can't justin do you remember where he went? I'm 365 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:10.640 having a brain far open ai really again? He went 366 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:14.680 open ai to do their hardware. Uh now open ai 367 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.640 is going to get into hardware, which Apple's like shaking 368 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:18.240 in their boots. 369 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:22.039 I'm gonna I'm gonna make a prediction right now in 370 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.720 terms of that where you're talking about someone's they're gonna 371 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:25.440 buy someone. 372 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:29.359 I have a device that I did not leave in 373 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.240 this room you're looking for it. 374 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:36.400 There is a company called Rabbit, and they released a 375 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.359 device at CEES a couple of years ago, the r one, 376 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:41.960 And it's like a little bit bigger than a DECA 377 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:46.400 cards and it has an AI assistant inside of it. Now, 378 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:48.039 a lot of people were like, why don't you do 379 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:50.759 this as an app? And they were like, well, we 380 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:54.559 didn't want to do an app, like we wanted this 381 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.039 to be where you can just have your AI buddy 382 00:19:57.119 --> 00:19:58.839 in the palm of your hand. It's got a tiny 383 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:01.839 little touchscreen, a scroll wheel, a click button, and a 384 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.519 camera that is it for input. And they instead of 385 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:09.400 doing a large language model, rabbit os runs off the 386 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:13.160 large action model, so it learns instead of like how 387 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:16.640 you're phrasing things, it learns how you do things, how 388 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:20.920 you want tasks to be completed. And they have a 389 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:24.200 website that you can log into the rabbit Hole. You 390 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:26.359 can see where they really leaned into the branding here. 391 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:30.279 And the rabbit Hole is kind of like the repository 392 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:32.119 of your memories and things that you've asked and you 393 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:35.319 can access it on your computer. And they recently release 394 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:38.880 the rabbit intern and the rabbit intern is an AI 395 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.799 assisting tool where it can be like, hey, I want 396 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:46.279 to code a website. There are other tools. Replet is 397 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:47.680 one that comes to mind where you can be like, 398 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:50.720 I want this project and it will build front and 399 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:52.880 back end the whole thing for you and then be like, 400 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:55.680 go make your tweaks and you can publish it. I 401 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:59.839