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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty Mo.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly, Marsha Collier on this Tech Thursday. We're live everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>on the iHeartRadio app. Yes, Marcia Caulier, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hold your hand. You're going to guide me through this

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<v Speaker 2>palm technology. I went to Whole Foods earlier tonight and

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<v Speaker 2>I got my food and I saw and I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>it many times.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never used it, never thought about using it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a way that you can pay with your palm,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not exactly sure how it works.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know how it works? I do, But.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, people are being slow to enrolling on this

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<v Speaker 4>thing because we're also paranoid at this point. Now, Amazon

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't take a picture of your palm.

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<v Speaker 5>It saves a mathematical palm.

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<v Speaker 4>Signature, you know, tell me cynical, right, It's to unlock

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<v Speaker 4>a different based biometric system, and its stored separately from

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<v Speaker 4>your credit card information.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure until attacked and whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, I'm thinking if they just took a picture

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<v Speaker 4>of my palm and they'd offer a free palm reading

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<v Speaker 4>with every sign up, I might be more willing to

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<v Speaker 4>go for this but they're not. They're not exactly gamifying it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like the TSA. Are you TSA, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pre checked? Yes, okay, you got global entry?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>When people hold their hand up with the iPhone to

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<v Speaker 4>open their phone, it goes clickton opens. If you remember

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<v Speaker 4>when you were having the questions asked on the TSA

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<v Speaker 4>pre check.

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<v Speaker 3>I just renewed, so yes, I do remember.

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<v Speaker 5>And remember when they take your picture how they zoom

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<v Speaker 5>right into your eyeball. Oh, it's real close, and they

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<v Speaker 5>rett in a scan. Yes, now that's iding people.

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<v Speaker 4>And actually I'm I'm okay with that because what else

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<v Speaker 4>can we do.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the government. But having that tied into.

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<v Speaker 4>Having my phone work, paying it a supermarket? Are these

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<v Speaker 4>biometrics really necessary? Realize that giving up a certain amount

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<v Speaker 4>of data, no matter how much technical and I read

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<v Speaker 4>to you some of that technical boloney, let.

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<v Speaker 3>Me play the other side of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just say, well, I appreciate the technology. I

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<v Speaker 2>someone's listening could be the eye and I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Better knowing that.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a greater degree of certainty that it's actually me,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to someone who's impersonating me or gets my

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<v Speaker 2>credit card number.

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<v Speaker 3>Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel better knowing that it's a retinal scan or

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<v Speaker 2>it's a palm scan.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, but consider and consider this palm. Have they been

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<v Speaker 4>taking palm scans of people in the world? Why doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>Amazon take fingerprints? Fingerprints are really more universal when you

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<v Speaker 4>think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you've been in our kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a fingerprint scanner for our vending machines.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, and there's a fingerprint scanner every time

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<v Speaker 4>in your life. If you've had any children or anything

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<v Speaker 4>like that, you've had their fingerprints done. You know, for

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<v Speaker 4>ID if they go missing, you'll have their fingerprints.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, people aren't.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not really using dental scams anymore to find Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>unless you're already did, unless your fingers are gone. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm a fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I use my fingerprint on my phone, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>take a picture of my face.

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<v Speaker 2>Either, do I Now on my computer it will use

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<v Speaker 2>my face all my phone. I do have it selected

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<v Speaker 2>where it will realize if I'm still looking at the screen,

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<v Speaker 2>and it won't phone lock.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an Android thing, which is interesting because you were

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<v Speaker 4>talking earlier about the earthquake alerts, and that is built

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<v Speaker 4>into the Android echosystem that they have made a deal

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<v Speaker 4>with shake Alert.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's part okay, that is part of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Operating system, so it's just in there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's in there.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have an Android phone, go into settings, the

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<v Speaker 4>general settings where the little cog is at the top

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<v Speaker 4>or on your settings. Go in there, search SOS and

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<v Speaker 4>emergency or emergency in SOS and you're going to find

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<v Speaker 4>a whole world of things that are on your phone

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<v Speaker 4>that you had no idea that existed. And the earthquake

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<v Speaker 4>thing is one of them. There's also we talked about

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<v Speaker 4>crash detection all the other things, but they have added

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<v Speaker 4>that as part of the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I learned something tonight. Oh my no, that's

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<v Speaker 3>why we have.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure no anyway with the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know how successful it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>for what do you think?

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<v Speaker 5>But the palm thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder whether it's going to be successful because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not widely adopted. In other words, it's not like Whole

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<v Speaker 2>Foods has it, and I can go to Pavilions and

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<v Speaker 2>they have it, and Albertson's has it, and Gelson's has it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like for example, the self checkout. You can go to

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<v Speaker 2>just about any store and it's there. Unless this is everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how people are going to become comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, we all say it, Hey, you know

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<v Speaker 4>it's America. We want options, But how many options do

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<v Speaker 4>we really need? You know, how much data has to

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<v Speaker 4>be exposed?

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what I wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>When let me put it this way, how long before

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<v Speaker 2>we get at a hack of this so we can

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<v Speaker 2>find out how much data they get?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, exactly exactly. And we've talked about and if you've

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<v Speaker 4>been listening to us at all, I try not to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the big acts because we have been hacked

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<v Speaker 4>so badly. And in the next segment, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk a little bit about you know what happens with

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<v Speaker 4>that data.

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<v Speaker 5>But we have been hacked. Our data is out there.

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<v Speaker 3>All we have.

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<v Speaker 5>Left are a biometrics.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we do we if only because yeah, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the retinal scan we face they have.

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<v Speaker 4>Your fingerprints, yes, because they've taken them for police approval,

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<v Speaker 4>for security. They have your fingerprints. So I don't worry

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<v Speaker 4>as much about that. You know they're there, they're out.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to assume that anytime anyone's taken that the

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<v Speaker 4>TSA doing the retinal scan.

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<v Speaker 3>What am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, either do it or business exactly pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>When you go into some countries like China, they had

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<v Speaker 4>a little stick that they put under your chin so

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<v Speaker 4>your eyes line up with the camera for the retinal scam.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't know that. Well, I haven't been in China.

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<v Speaker 5>So well, it's a different experience.

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<v Speaker 4>As far as government surveillance, as far as yeah, you

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<v Speaker 4>will do what the what you are told to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you don't do it, there's the door.

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<v Speaker 5>I was so terrified.

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<v Speaker 4>My hands got cold and when they wanted me to

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<v Speaker 4>put my hand down on the reader, it wouldn't breath

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<v Speaker 4>because my hand was so cold. And they don't speak English,

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<v Speaker 4>because I was in interior China, and I'm nothing's happening,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing's happening. I can't I'm just a crazy old lady

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<v Speaker 4>from California.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what this is.

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, he took me to another one and

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<v Speaker 4>he put my hand down, he mashed it down. But

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to get used to this because it is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the cost of doing business in certain ways.

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<v Speaker 4>But is that the cost of doing business at Whole

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<v Speaker 4>Foods and Amazon Fresh or can you use something else?

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<v Speaker 5>Can you use your Google wallet, your iPhone wallet?

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<v Speaker 3>You can?

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<v Speaker 5>You can?

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<v Speaker 3>You can?

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<v Speaker 5>You could use credit cards?

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<v Speaker 3>Tap it. That's what I do.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I do. I'm a tapper.

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<v Speaker 4>You can use credit cards or Heavens to Murgatroyd.

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<v Speaker 5>You could use cash.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you just go Heavens to Murgatory?

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<v Speaker 5>Do that?

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember how it said, do you well?

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be able to do it. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>do it as well. You can run or do it

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<v Speaker 3>out of this please.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a cardson guy, is so beneath him. He

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<v Speaker 2>does not do cartions. He's too mature for that. He

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<v Speaker 2>won't even watch Pixar movies.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw that the one Push and Boots just looked

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<v Speaker 4>too cute.

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<v Speaker 2>The last He's not into too cute, not at all,

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<v Speaker 2>not at all. That's not as stop. I forgot Heavens

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<v Speaker 2>to Murgatroyd with Snagglepuss. Yeah, who I remember those?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Heavens to murgatroy I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>When you guys go out of your line. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>this show is like so totally like the I must

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<v Speaker 4>I say it the Johnny Carson Show, but it's the

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<v Speaker 4>mo Kelly Show.

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, Johnny Carson is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can put me and Johnny Carson in the

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<v Speaker 2>same book, paragraph or chapter, I'm good with that.

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<v Speaker 4>My husband's mother used to do research for Johnny in

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<v Speaker 4>when he was in the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that means your husband is going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>tell some stories on this show one of these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the stories that were given to him that

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<v Speaker 2>were not public knowledge. I know he has, Yeah, he does,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's for another time. It's Later with mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joined in studio by Marshall Collier. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into AI deep fakes scams now that are

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<v Speaker 2>coming via phone, which could impact you and me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with mo Kelly Demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when your phone was so simple. You just picked

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<v Speaker 2>up the phone, you dialed it. You didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about any type of real technology.

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<v Speaker 4>You remember when there was no area code and there

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<v Speaker 4>was no one before anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling Stephan the other night, I was explaining

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<v Speaker 2>to him what a party line was.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh Man those were great. I was a little girl,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'd go over to the party line. I'd pick

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<v Speaker 5>it up and I'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, just listening on people's calls, because no one's to

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<v Speaker 2>stop you. You know, it's fine if you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to make a call, you just listen. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make a call, it might be a problem. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was once upon a time, mister mo'kelly with

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<v Speaker 2>Marshall call your KFI AM six forty. But now phones

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<v Speaker 2>are so sophisticated. They are like the windows to our soul.

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<v Speaker 2>They are the entry point for everything that we do,

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<v Speaker 2>from entertainment to paying our bills, to banking, I'll say,

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<v Speaker 2>the sharing documents. Anything that we need to do can

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<v Speaker 3>It's very valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>And since it's very valuable, people want to steal from

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing is, do you do you really talk

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<v Speaker 3>Really? You mean as a hello vote voice communication?

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I make one to two calls per week.

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<v Speaker 4>The oh, and I have it on account. I'll only

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<v Speaker 2>Well, people who know me know that the only time

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<v Speaker 2>in my car on my way to the station, because

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well you know that's what I text.

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<v Speaker 3>Your right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But because the phone is so sophisticated and also has

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<v Speaker 2>so much important information, criminals have got smarter. The technology

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<v Speaker 2>for criminals has gotten more sophisticated. We've all heard of

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<v Speaker 2>deep fakes, We've all heard of AI, We've all heard

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<v Speaker 2>of all these phone scams, but now they're being put

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what's interesting is you really shouldn't pick up the

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore, we shouldn't have a voice conversation with anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>You just talked about deep fakes. We talked about voice

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<v Speaker 4>AI impersonations. They can make a voice sound like you mo.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>They're even talking about having talking gravestones where they'll take

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<v Speaker 4>recordings from a person's life ooh, and they will make

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<v Speaker 4>ask how they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no, oh yeah, oh that's not what I want.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know, but he's going to think of something.

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<v Speaker 3>If I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because we know that people can and spoof numbers

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<v Speaker 3>Ida is something something number right, or they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Even have to do that. They can say private call. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>here's an example. I got this from tech Crunch because

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<v Speaker 4>executive is using WhatsApp. I use WhatsApp when I talk

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<v Speaker 4>internationally and whatever. It's like a phone call. And the

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<v Speaker 4>messages were coming from the CEO of Ferrari and the

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<v Speaker 4>guy didn't recognize the number. He couldn't really be sure

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<v Speaker 4>it was his boss. So after a bunch of these messages,

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<v Speaker 4>he said to the purported CEO.

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<v Speaker 5>That he really had to talk to him. So he

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<v Speaker 5>spoke to him.

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<v Speaker 4>And this person had the southern Italian accent, sounded just

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<v Speaker 4>like him. Was actually you couldn't identify him in any

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<v Speaker 4>other way vocally but being that CEO. So when he

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<v Speaker 4>did that, the guy said, tell me something, and he

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<v Speaker 4>asked the caller something only the CEO would know because

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<v Speaker 4>they had met and discussed this two days earlier and

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<v Speaker 4>the call was disconnected. Now this is the CEO of Ferrari.

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<v Speaker 4>These are the employees of Ferrari being fooled. This can

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<v Speaker 4>happen anywhere. It's not a point anymore where it happens

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<v Speaker 4>just to special people. And if you think you're so cool,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I still get calls from people that say

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you won't get me on the phone.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm not answering it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell no.

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<v Speaker 5>And I might put this to talking to a stranger.

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<v Speaker 5>How much you enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, there are great people at car dealerships

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<v Speaker 4>and and they do a great job showing you features

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<v Speaker 5>You're wonderful people.

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<v Speaker 4>But I gotta tell you it's the most stressful time

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<v Speaker 4>car dealer because sometimes they are very good salespeople. They

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<v Speaker 4>can sell you down the river real fast, and a

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<v Speaker 4>good salesman can do it. And if they get you

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<v Speaker 4>on the phone by some way, you can become part

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<v Speaker 4>Security number and your home address and your name have

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<v Speaker 4>been leaked on that billions of people leak.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so much more complicated and simple.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, it's complicated because there's a technological

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<v Speaker 2>aspect where they can and I'm just put it all together.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be a private number that can spoof a number.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be a person that you think you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that you're talking to using seemingly their actual voice, not

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<v Speaker 2>a random person's voice, and they can put it all

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<v Speaker 2>together and extract money and information.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh absolutely, And believe me, if the police want money

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<v Speaker 4>for a ticket, they're not going to call you or

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<v Speaker 4>the irs. The IRS at your bank is not going

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<v Speaker 4>to call you for money. Nobody is going to request

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<v Speaker 4>payment in gift cards. This just doesn't happen. Don't believe

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<v Speaker 4>any of the three you know, and I hate to

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<v Speaker 4>say it. If they say they're, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 4>Police League for Goodness or whatever it is, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know who they are. And you have to know who

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<v Speaker 4>people are. I got an email, and I know we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about voice, but I got an email from a

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<v Speaker 4>legitimate person T Mobile. Oh excuse me, that was a

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<v Speaker 4>call I got. But I got an email. It was

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<v Speaker 4>from a legitimate person.

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<v Speaker 5>I knew the name.

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<v Speaker 4>It had my address, my cell phone number, and my

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<v Speaker 4>full name as part of the email that was the

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<v Speaker 4>scariest thing I've ever gotten, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew it was fishing, but still they had enough accurate

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<v Speaker 4>I googled the name and it was a legitimate name,

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<v Speaker 4>and so there was an attachment on it that was

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<v Speaker 4>it was a PDF, and I ran it through super

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<v Speaker 4>super strong security software and it was clean, and I

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<v Speaker 4>let Google run it through their software in the cloud,

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<v Speaker 4>and I read it and it was you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>have I've put a keystrokelogger on your computer.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is the short story.

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<v Speaker 4>Because they went on and on and shamed you and

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<v Speaker 4>shamed you for watching your dirty porn on the computer

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<v Speaker 4>and for only this much bitcoin sent to such and

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<v Speaker 4>such an address. Let me tell you, it was very convincing,

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<v Speaker 4>very convinced, so convincing that I'm on Facebook the other

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<v Speaker 4>day and I see that somebody else has gotten that

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<v Speaker 4>same email, and who has obviously been watching some nasty

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<v Speaker 4>porn there, who's talking about how he's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>send them the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Marshall, call you, So what is it you're telling us

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Are you telling us about a scammer? You

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<v Speaker 2>telling us about your porn video has?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I gave it up.

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<v Speaker 4>All I'm telling you is you have to watch out

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<v Speaker 4>for everything that happens. I got a phone call from somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it was a listener of KFI.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, at least leave a.

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<v Speaker 4>Text message, let me know, leave a message if you

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<v Speaker 4>really want to talk to me, and you happen to

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<v Speaker 4>have come across my number and you have to call me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if I don't know you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not answering the phone. Yeah, it's just not going

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<v Speaker 5>to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I looked up the name and the number was a

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<v Speaker 4>legitimate person in the LA area, and I normally would

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<v Speaker 4>have called back, and I said, no, why because they're

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<v Speaker 4>better salesman than me, who can probably convince me that

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<v Speaker 4>scary stuff is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of scary stuff each and every week.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to tell you about scary stuff. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a way to navigate this and maneuver around it. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we love you, Marshall Collier, because you help

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<v Speaker 2>protect us sometimes from ourselves.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's really hard.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you want to answer that phone, but if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't recognize who it is, don't answer it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much, Marshall Callier and we'll see you again

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<v Speaker 2>next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Next week. No, that's right, you're gone next week.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to go investigate oil wells.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 5>After I do that, I'll be back the following week.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing up as a kid, I thought I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an astronaut. I really did want to grow

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<v Speaker 2>up to be an astronaut. And then I started learning

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<v Speaker 2>more about the vacuum of space, and I said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I do not want to be in an astronaut. I

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<v Speaker 2>would rather not die in space or in the void

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<v Speaker 2>of space. And maybe because I understood that space is

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult, I grew up in the shadow of the

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<v Speaker 2>Apollo missions. I didn't get to experience them firsthand. I

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<v Speaker 2>was too young to best appreciate them. I was a

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<v Speaker 2>Shuttle era era a kid where I followed all the

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<v Speaker 2>Shuttle launches, and I dreamed of a time in which

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<v Speaker 2>we would actually get to privatize space.

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<v Speaker 3>We're now there.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk about the Boeing star Liner in that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk about SpaceX, we can talk about now

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<v Speaker 2>the first private space walk. I wanted to stay up

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<v Speaker 2>all night and see it because I think it happened

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<v Speaker 2>around for like three thirty in the morning. But I

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<v Speaker 2>can't stay up past midnight. Maybe Mark Ronner could have,

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<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, what would be more inspiring to me than to

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<v Speaker 6>watch a billionaire buy something else that it takes a

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<v Speaker 6>normal person their entire life to achieve. Yeah, would that'd

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<v Speaker 6>be great?

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<v Speaker 2>The realization that I had was and this is coming

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<v Speaker 2>from someone who grew up wanting to be an astronaut.

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<v Speaker 2>I went from I would do it for free as

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid to you could not pay me enough

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<v Speaker 2>money to get on a space ship and then walk

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<v Speaker 2>my ass out into the void just for the thrill

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 6>And yet you go on cruise ships when the ocean

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<v Speaker 6>the ocean is equally inhospitable.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>I could, in theory fall off a cruise ship and

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<v Speaker 2>paddle for five or ten minutes, and hopefully people have

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<v Speaker 3>There is no one who's been lost in space and survived.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you saw two thousand and one where Dave Bowman

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<v Speaker 6>has to hold his breath to get from the capsule

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<v Speaker 6>back into the ship.

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<v Speaker 3>You can do that. I believe in you. You can

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<v Speaker 3>hold your breath.

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<v Speaker 2>See, there's a difference between movies and there's reality. And

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is that no one survives in the vacuum

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<v Speaker 2>of space if exposed to it. People have fallen off

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<v Speaker 2>cruise ships and survived. Don't kid yourself, you're gonna die. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not die. I just want to have some

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<v Speaker 2>saying how I'm going to die, and I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not dying in space. And the thing is, this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Jared Isaacman paid millions and millions of dollars just

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<v Speaker 2>for the opportunity to kind of hover in space for

439
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<v Speaker 2>about an hour or two.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>There is there's no scenario, there are no looks. Say,

442
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<v Speaker 2>mister Kelly, will give you five million dollars to do it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you ten million New, We'll give you a

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<v Speaker 2>date with halle Berry and five million new.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's think about it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it because I'm not putting myself in

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<v Speaker 2>that position to die in space.

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<v Speaker 6>And you find that odd. I find it cowardly. I

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<v Speaker 6>find like you're siding up to go cowardly and shameful.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, he calls it cowardly, but won't get on a

451
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<v Speaker 2>cruise ship. Right, he calls it cowardly, but won't go

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<v Speaker 2>into a group of crowded people, A crowded group of people.

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<v Speaker 6>Mar Yeah, we tried that experiment, and we saw how

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<v Speaker 6>that turned out.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you die? Came close? Oh, Mark, closer than I preferred. Mark.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're not gonna get on a cruise ship, you

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<v Speaker 7>cannot encourage space walks. I am a patriot, so I

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<v Speaker 7>would go into space for my country. Okay, So that's

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<v Speaker 7>all you need.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a patch they're going to put on your arms,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, in a in a full fledged space astronaut.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, no, if I could get laid with Halle Berry

463
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<v Speaker 6>like you suggested a moment ago, that'd be great too.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that would be that would be sufficient. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say anything again, la detour. I didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>Halle I know you're listening right now. I said nothing

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<v Speaker 2>about getting laid, No, no, no, just for company.

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<v Speaker 3>Did say a date? Yeah, I said a date. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, you all all dates mean sex. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>what is going on here? Man? I'm just food.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dangerous enough to be in a in a capsule

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<v Speaker 2>in outer space. Okay, I'm not trying to get killed

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<v Speaker 2>by Hallie, all right. I respect the woman too much

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<v Speaker 2>for that. Oh, I respect her enormously. I'm not trying

475
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<v Speaker 2>to be in the sixty two mile high club.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I would enjoy showing my respect to her for

477
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<v Speaker 6>like twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>What if we walk in? What does that happening? I

479
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<v Speaker 3>need a good hour?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here, here's here's the here's the here's the goodness. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my, don't you don't you dare step in? Don't

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<v Speaker 2>you will? I will come through the screen, and don't

483
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<v Speaker 2>you len against company policy?

484
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<v Speaker 3>Foods.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to take that. Okay, here's the real question.

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<v Speaker 2>What would be your price to do an hour or

487
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<v Speaker 2>two space walk connected to SpaceX? This is not NASA,

488
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<v Speaker 2>they were actually testing new space suits.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, well you since you say SpaceX, if it's an

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<v Speaker 6>Elon Musk venture, then no, you couldn't get me.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it. Okay, what about boweling star Liner?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but you know, if Musk's uh spacewalks

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<v Speaker 6>or anything like Twitter or his cars, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 6>it a pass.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that he doesn't actually build anything, right, you

496
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<v Speaker 3>know that? Yeah, I've read this. Yeah, okay, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 3>start with you, Stefan.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your price to go up in a privatize

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<v Speaker 2>spaceship and do a space walk for two hours? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>The more you talk about it, the more I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know want to do it. But I'd say, let's say

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred million. That's a reasonable price. Is that all?

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<v Speaker 3>What a bargain? Mark your turn? What's your price?

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<v Speaker 6>I'd just do it unless it was unless it was

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<v Speaker 6>run by Elon Musk, and then I would absolutely never

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<v Speaker 6>do it under any circumstances Bezos. Well, didn't Shatner go

507
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<v Speaker 6>up with Bezos? Yeah, but Shatner lived and he's in

508
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<v Speaker 6>his nineties. He didn't do a space walk. He's just

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<v Speaker 6>safe enough.

510
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<v Speaker 3>He didn't. He didn't actually leave the orbiter.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if I were with Bezos, I would make him

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<v Speaker 6>go first, and if he didn't die immediately, I'd follow him.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Swaller, there's there's absolutely nothing. There's no price. I

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<v Speaker 7>mean like like if I could be bought for a spacewalk,

515
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<v Speaker 7>I could be bought for anything, So there's no price.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 7>And to me, whether it's a shoddy Musk rocket or

518
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<v Speaker 7>a sleek Besos rocket, I mean, I look, I am

519
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<v Speaker 7>someone who, if I was given five years to live,

520
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<v Speaker 7>I'm signing up for the Mars mission because I'm like,

521
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<v Speaker 7>you know, I'm gonna go out doing something the crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but just because you know you're going to die

524
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<v Speaker 2>within a certain amount of time, it doesn't mean that

525
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<v Speaker 2>you're opening your stuff up to die horribly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't know if I believe that everything

528
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<v Speaker 7>is going to be horrible and tragic. I think if

529
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<v Speaker 7>you know, if it's like, hey, you know, you can

530
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<v Speaker 7>make this mark and live forever, and infamy will have

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<v Speaker 7>a school named after you, will rename you know. I

532
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<v Speaker 7>don't know a college radio station after you. I don't

533
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<v Speaker 7>know the Sharp Sharp studio or the Sharp launch site. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to Mars. The Sharp crater on Mars, Okay,

535
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<v Speaker 7>put it this way, crater, that's mark.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think of going out into outer space, like

537
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<v Speaker 2>going on that sub which imploded.

538
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that would do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying it's just because to Twalla's point, just

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<v Speaker 2>because he may be terminal with cancer or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>heading forbid, and I'm pushing that on to you. That

542
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that I'm going to start doing really crazy

543
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<v Speaker 2>and stupid things, because there is still a horrible way

544
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<v Speaker 2>to die before you get to the cancer.

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<v Speaker 7>Is enough getting me on the damn boat. You think

546
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<v Speaker 7>I'm getting on a sub No, I don't have that

547
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<v Speaker 7>much love for water.

548
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<v Speaker 3>But out of space it's the same thing. No, no, no,

549
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<v Speaker 3>no no.

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<v Speaker 6>For me.

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<v Speaker 7>Outer space that is something that has long fascinated me.

552
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<v Speaker 7>And if I had nothing to lose, or not way

553
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<v Speaker 7>too much to lose, I've way too much to lose.

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<v Speaker 7>They got kids to watch grow up, you know, have grandkids, runner,

555
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<v Speaker 7>I got all that to look forward to. But heaven

556
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<v Speaker 7>forbid within the next you know, I don't know, twenty

557
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<v Speaker 7>years and they fully developed this Mars habitat where they

558
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<v Speaker 7>will live for a year or so, or maybe it'll

559
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<v Speaker 7>live for two weeks or so and then die horribly

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<v Speaker 7>by the Martian radiation. I might say, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I call BS twelve because you won't even get

562
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<v Speaker 2>on a subway and you're gonna stay in No.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I've been on I've even been on this crazy

564
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<v Speaker 7>metro sub and was trapped on the car with some

565
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<v Speaker 7>crazy person talking the entire time or underground, you know

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<v Speaker 7>there's those, and she was going off threatened to Kenselboddy. Okay,

567
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<v Speaker 7>well I've been on that all right.

568
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<v Speaker 2>So if that's I'll just say claustrophobic for you, What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think is going to be on a Bezos

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<v Speaker 2>ship or a SpaceX ship. They're not like, uh, enterprise size.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty we're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And football season as well underway college and pro. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a college football fan like me, you probably

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<v Speaker 2>were heartbroken at the end or what was thought to

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<v Speaker 2>be the end of the Pac twelve conference. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>USC is not in the Pac twelve anymore. They're in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten. They're over there with Wisconsin and Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in the Big Ten, as is Washington and Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>When do you think, well, who's left in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the Pac twelve? Well, did you know? Did you know

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<v Speaker 2>that Stanford and UC Berkeley they're now in the A,

584
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<v Speaker 2>which is the Atlantic Coast Conference. Stafford and UC Berkeley,

585
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<v Speaker 2>which are only maybe a few miles as it were,

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<v Speaker 2>from the Pacific Ocean, are playing in the Atlantic Coast

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<v Speaker 2>Conference on the other side of the country. Well you think, then,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen with the PAC twelve. Was it

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<v Speaker 2>just going to be defunct? Was it just gonna di

590
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<v Speaker 2>disintegrate into nothing? No, it's not dead yet because now

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<v Speaker 2>the PAC twelve has welcomed Fresno State, San Diego State,

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<v Speaker 2>Boise State, as In Idaho, and Colorado State Universities to

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<v Speaker 2>the PAC twelve. The only two schools which were remaining

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<v Speaker 2>were Oregon State and Washington State. So the PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 2>is still somewhat a West Coast conference. It won't have

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<v Speaker 2>the heavy weights that it once had before because UCLA

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<v Speaker 2>and USC obviously went to the Big Ten, followed by

598
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<v Speaker 2>Oregon and Washington to the Big Ten, and most of

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<v Speaker 2>the other schools left for different conferences in the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>But there will be still a PAC twelve conference, at

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<v Speaker 2>least for the near future. Now, it won't have the

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<v Speaker 2>same feeling, it won't have the same appeal, it won't

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<v Speaker 2>have the same bowl alignment from what I understand, because

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<v Speaker 2>in decades past, you'd have the winner of the PAC

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<v Speaker 2>twelve face off with the winner of the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>in the Rose Bowl. And I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 2>alliance is still going to hold given the imbalance of

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<v Speaker 2>the two conferences. You can't have some like Colorado State

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<v Speaker 2>versus Michigan in the Rose Bowl. That wouldn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But the PAC twelve, as we once knew it is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>But you will have some and Frinstale State is a

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<v Speaker 2>good football school. Boise State is a good football school.

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00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Colorado State not so much. You know, Oregon State, Washington State,

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<v Speaker 2>they were at the bottom of the PAC twelve. But

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<v Speaker 2>at least you will still have West Coast football being

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<v Speaker 2>featured in the PAC twelve. And Teresa Gould, who is

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<v Speaker 2>the commissioner of the PAC twelve, said quote for over

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<v Speaker 2>a century, the PAC twelve conference has been recognized as

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<v Speaker 2>a leading brand in intercollegiate athletics, which it has been.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes on, we will continue to pursue bold, cutting

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<v Speaker 2>edge opportunities for growth and progress to best serve our

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<v Speaker 2>member institutions and student athletes. I'm thankful to our board

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<v Speaker 2>for their efforts to welcome Boise and State University, Coado

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<v Speaker 2>State University, California State University Fresno, and San Diego State

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<v Speaker 2>University to the conference and exciting new era for the

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<v Speaker 2>PAC twelve conference begins today. And I remember for decades

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<v Speaker 2>they would tell us we can't have a football playoff

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<v Speaker 2>because it would ruin the conference bowl alignment and the

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<v Speaker 2>bowl matchups like the Rose Bowl or the Orange Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>and the Sugar Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>And we knew that wasn't true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that there wasn't enough money in the college

633
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<v Speaker 2>Football Playoff for these commissioners to start making these moves.

634
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<v Speaker 2>Now there is, and now the teams have started moving.

635
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<v Speaker 2>That's why UCLA and USC moved to the Big Ten,

636
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<v Speaker 2>which makes no damn sense because there's no real geographical continuity.

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<v Speaker 2>You have these West Coast teams and got Rutgers in

638
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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten. You have a new Jersey school in

639
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>California schools in the same conference. What's the point of

640
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<v Speaker 2>having conferences at all? But that's the way it is

641
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<v Speaker 2>now because it's all about that money. And there is

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<v Speaker 2>so much money in college football and this National Football Playoff,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been expanded to twelve teams, that some schools,

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<v Speaker 2>some commissioners could not turn down the opportunity to make

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<v Speaker 2>millions on top of millions for the respective universities. And

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, you can't leave those paydays on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>But as someone who grew up loving college football, loving

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<v Speaker 2>USC even to this day, you fall in love with

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<v Speaker 2>not only the team, but also the matchups, the rivalries,

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<v Speaker 2>the significance of the Rose Bowl, an idea of USC

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<v Speaker 2>versus UCLA here in southern California, and what that would

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<v Speaker 2>mean for the Pac twelve conference. It used to be

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<v Speaker 2>the Pack eight, then it went to the Pac ten

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<v Speaker 2>and then to the Pac twelve, but you still had

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<v Speaker 2>the goal of playing for a chance to play in

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<v Speaker 2>the Rose Bowl against the Big ten champion. And that

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<v Speaker 2>tradition now no longer exists, and sometimes we can be

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<v Speaker 2>prisoners of nostalgia, but that was something I think which

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<v Speaker 2>made college football better, those long standing rivalries that we

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<v Speaker 2>won't have in the same way anymore. But the Pac

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<v Speaker 2>twelve is not done yet. Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State,

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<v Speaker 2>and San Diego State are now members of the Pac twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know Mark Ronald doesn't care, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. Twalla Sharp does not care, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>huge deal. I've listened to every single word you just said.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you listen. You just you did not comprehend

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<v Speaker 2>any of them. Oh no, it's all burned into my

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<v Speaker 2>mind now. It's very important. Okay, all right. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>even care about anything in Washington Athletics when you were

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<v Speaker 2>up there?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, sure, I'm sure I went. Well, Paquino's the Pac ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, which is I don't know how long ago

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, so I and now that it's the twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no interest.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's either ten or nothing. I insist on ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Washington University of Washington or Washington State that

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<v Speaker 2>you gravitated to?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>Both, But the only games I went to were WSU

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<v Speaker 6>in Pullman because because there's nothing else to do there.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I've never been there. Don't don't do it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the place I told you either last night or

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<v Speaker 6>the night before that, the drinking ages nineteen in Idaho,

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<v Speaker 6>So everybody drove the eight miles to get loaded because

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<v Speaker 6>there's nothing to do there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my geography is not the best, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have to remind myself that Idaho is that close when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the eastern portion of Washington and Pullman

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<v Speaker 2>being on the eastern portion of the state.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Idaho might as well have its own state. And

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to give these geniuses any ideas it

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<v Speaker 6>might as well form its own state with eastern Washington,

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<v Speaker 6>because they're very much of like minds.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, Idaho, they've been trying to I can't should

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<v Speaker 2>I say this? You know they they have their own

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<v Speaker 2>way of thinking there, and it's not a place I

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<v Speaker 2>want to visit that much.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, without getting too explicit, I can tell you

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<v Speaker 6>you particularly might not be very welcome. Yes, yes, me,

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<v Speaker 6>I could, I could pass you not so much. No, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 6>We would have a misunderstanding there in Idaho. Yeah, I suspect.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's one of the states I haven't visited and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't plan to visit in this lifetime.

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<v Speaker 3>No reason to go. It's not like they have Disneyland

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<v Speaker 3>there or something. Yeah, choose life instead, Mo.

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