Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty Mo.
Speaker 2: Kelly, Marsha Collier on this Tech Thursday. We're live everywhere
Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. Yes, Marcia Caulier, I want to
Speaker 2: hold your hand. You're going to guide me through this
Speaker 2: palm technology. I went to Whole Foods earlier tonight and
Speaker 2: I got my food and I saw and I've seen
Speaker 2: it many times.
Speaker 3: I've never used it, never thought about using it.
Speaker 2: But there's a way that you can pay with your palm,
Speaker 2: and I'm not exactly sure how it works.
Speaker 3: Do you know how it works? I do, But.
Speaker 4: You know, people are being slow to enrolling on this
Speaker 4: thing because we're also paranoid at this point. Now, Amazon
Speaker 4: doesn't take a picture of your palm.
Speaker 5: It saves a mathematical palm.
Speaker 4: Signature, you know, tell me cynical, right, It's to unlock
Speaker 4: a different based biometric system, and its stored separately from
Speaker 4: your credit card information.
Speaker 3: Sure until attacked and whatever.
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm thinking if they just took a picture
Speaker 4: of my palm and they'd offer a free palm reading
Speaker 4: with every sign up, I might be more willing to
Speaker 4: go for this but they're not. They're not exactly gamifying it.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like the TSA. Are you TSA, I'm
Speaker 4: pre checked? Yes, okay, you got global entry?
Speaker 5: Yes, okay.
Speaker 4: When people hold their hand up with the iPhone to
Speaker 4: open their phone, it goes clickton opens. If you remember
Speaker 4: when you were having the questions asked on the TSA
Speaker 4: pre check.
Speaker 3: I just renewed, so yes, I do remember.
Speaker 5: And remember when they take your picture how they zoom
Speaker 5: right into your eyeball. Oh, it's real close, and they
Speaker 5: rett in a scan. Yes, now that's iding people.
Speaker 4: And actually I'm I'm okay with that because what else
Speaker 4: can we do.
Speaker 5: That's the government. But having that tied into.
Speaker 4: Having my phone work, paying it a supermarket? Are these
Speaker 4: biometrics really necessary? Realize that giving up a certain amount
Speaker 4: of data, no matter how much technical and I read
Speaker 4: to you some of that technical boloney, let.
Speaker 3: Me play the other side of that.
Speaker 2: Let me just say, well, I appreciate the technology. I
Speaker 2: someone's listening could be the eye and I feel.
Speaker 3: Better knowing that.
Speaker 2: There is a greater degree of certainty that it's actually me,
Speaker 2: as opposed to someone who's impersonating me or gets my
Speaker 2: credit card number.
Speaker 3: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: I feel better knowing that it's a retinal scan or
Speaker 2: it's a palm scan.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but consider and consider this palm. Have they been
Speaker 4: taking palm scans of people in the world? Why doesn't
Speaker 4: Amazon take fingerprints? Fingerprints are really more universal when you
Speaker 4: think about it.
Speaker 3: Well, you've been in our kitchen.
Speaker 2: We have a fingerprint scanner for our vending machines.
Speaker 4: There you go, and there's a fingerprint scanner every time
Speaker 4: in your life. If you've had any children or anything
Speaker 4: like that, you've had their fingerprints done. You know, for
Speaker 4: ID if they go missing, you'll have their fingerprints.
Speaker 5: You know, people aren't.
Speaker 4: They're not really using dental scams anymore to find Yeah,
Speaker 4: unless you're already did, unless your fingers are gone. You know,
Speaker 4: there's that.
Speaker 5: But I'm a fan.
Speaker 4: I use my fingerprint on my phone, but I don't
Speaker 4: take a picture of my face.
Speaker 2: Either, do I Now on my computer it will use
Speaker 2: my face all my phone. I do have it selected
Speaker 2: where it will realize if I'm still looking at the screen,
Speaker 2: and it won't phone lock.
Speaker 4: That's an Android thing, which is interesting because you were
Speaker 4: talking earlier about the earthquake alerts, and that is built
Speaker 4: into the Android echosystem that they have made a deal
Speaker 4: with shake Alert.
Speaker 5: And it's part okay, that is part of the.
Speaker 3: Operating system, so it's just in there.
Speaker 5: It's in there.
Speaker 4: If you have an Android phone, go into settings, the
Speaker 4: general settings where the little cog is at the top
Speaker 4: or on your settings. Go in there, search SOS and
Speaker 4: emergency or emergency in SOS and you're going to find
Speaker 4: a whole world of things that are on your phone
Speaker 4: that you had no idea that existed. And the earthquake
Speaker 4: thing is one of them. There's also we talked about
Speaker 4: crash detection all the other things, but they have added
Speaker 4: that as part of the phone.
Speaker 3: All right, I learned something tonight. Oh my no, that's
Speaker 3: why we have.
Speaker 5: Sure no anyway with the phone.
Speaker 4: And I don't know how successful it's going to be
Speaker 4: for what do you think?
Speaker 5: But the palm thing.
Speaker 2: I wonder whether it's going to be successful because it's
Speaker 2: not widely adopted. In other words, it's not like Whole
Speaker 2: Foods has it, and I can go to Pavilions and
Speaker 2: they have it, and Albertson's has it, and Gelson's has it.
Speaker 2: Like for example, the self checkout. You can go to
Speaker 2: just about any store and it's there. Unless this is everywhere,
Speaker 2: I don't know how people are going to become comfortable
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we all say it, Hey, you know
Speaker 4: it's America. We want options, But how many options do
Speaker 4: we really need? You know, how much data has to
Speaker 4: be exposed?
Speaker 3: Here's what I wonder.
Speaker 2: When let me put it this way, how long before
Speaker 2: we get at a hack of this so we can
Speaker 2: find out how much data they get?
Speaker 4: Well, exactly exactly. And we've talked about and if you've
Speaker 4: been listening to us at all, I try not to
Speaker 4: talk about the big acts because we have been hacked
Speaker 4: so badly. And in the next segment, I'm going to
Speaker 4: talk a little bit about you know what happens with
Speaker 4: that data.
Speaker 5: But we have been hacked. Our data is out there.
Speaker 3: All we have.
Speaker 5: Left are a biometrics.
Speaker 2: Do we do we if only because yeah, we talked
Speaker 2: about the retinal scan we face they have.
Speaker 4: Your fingerprints, yes, because they've taken them for police approval,
Speaker 4: for security. They have your fingerprints. So I don't worry
Speaker 4: as much about that. You know they're there, they're out.
Speaker 4: I'm going to assume that anytime anyone's taken that the
Speaker 4: TSA doing the retinal scan.
Speaker 3: What am I going to do?
Speaker 5: You know, either do it or business exactly pretty much.
Speaker 4: When you go into some countries like China, they had
Speaker 4: a little stick that they put under your chin so
Speaker 4: your eyes line up with the camera for the retinal scam.
Speaker 3: Didn't know that. Well, I haven't been in China.
Speaker 5: So well, it's a different experience.
Speaker 4: As far as government surveillance, as far as yeah, you
Speaker 4: will do what the what you are told to do,
Speaker 4: and if you don't do it, there's the door.
Speaker 5: I was so terrified.
Speaker 4: My hands got cold and when they wanted me to
Speaker 4: put my hand down on the reader, it wouldn't breath
Speaker 4: because my hand was so cold. And they don't speak English,
Speaker 4: because I was in interior China, and I'm nothing's happening,
Speaker 4: nothing's happening. I can't I'm just a crazy old lady
Speaker 4: from California.
Speaker 5: I don't know what this is.
Speaker 4: So, you know, he took me to another one and
Speaker 4: he put my hand down, he mashed it down. But
Speaker 4: we've got to get used to this because it is
Speaker 4: going to be the cost of doing business in certain ways.
Speaker 4: But is that the cost of doing business at Whole
Speaker 4: Foods and Amazon Fresh or can you use something else?
Speaker 5: Can you use your Google wallet, your iPhone wallet?
Speaker 3: You can?
Speaker 5: You can?
Speaker 3: You can?
Speaker 5: You could use credit cards?
Speaker 3: Tap it. That's what I do.
Speaker 5: That's what I do. I'm a tapper.
Speaker 4: You can use credit cards or Heavens to Murgatroyd.
Speaker 5: You could use cash.
Speaker 3: Did you just go Heavens to Murgatory?
Speaker 5: Do that?
Speaker 4: I can't remember how it said, do you well?
Speaker 3: I used to be able to do it. I can't
Speaker 3: do it as well. You can run or do it
Speaker 3: out of this please.
Speaker 2: He's not a cardson guy, is so beneath him. He
Speaker 2: does not do cartions. He's too mature for that. He
Speaker 2: won't even watch Pixar movies.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I saw that the one Push and Boots just looked
Speaker 4: too cute.
Speaker 2: The last He's not into too cute, not at all,
Speaker 2: not at all. That's not as stop. I forgot Heavens
Speaker 2: to Murgatroyd with Snagglepuss. Yeah, who I remember those?
Speaker 5: Let's hear it.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I can't do it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Heavens to murgatroy I love it.
Speaker 5: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 4: When you guys go out of your line. I mean
Speaker 4: this show is like so totally like the I must
Speaker 4: I say it the Johnny Carson Show, but it's the
Speaker 4: mo Kelly Show.
Speaker 3: But hey, Johnny Carson is fine.
Speaker 2: If you can put me and Johnny Carson in the
Speaker 2: same book, paragraph or chapter, I'm good with that.
Speaker 4: My husband's mother used to do research for Johnny in
Speaker 4: when he was in the Midwest.
Speaker 2: Now that means your husband is going to have to
Speaker 2: tell some stories on this show one of these days.
Speaker 2: Some of the stories that were given to him that
Speaker 2: were not public knowledge. I know he has, Yeah, he does,
Speaker 2: but that's for another time. It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 2: I'm joined in studio by Marshall Collier. When we come back,
Speaker 2: let's get into AI deep fakes scams now that are
Speaker 2: coming via phone, which could impact you and me.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with mo Kelly Demand from KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Remember when your phone was so simple. You just picked
Speaker 2: up the phone, you dialed it. You didn't have to
Speaker 2: worry about any type of real technology.
Speaker 4: You remember when there was no area code and there
Speaker 4: was no one before anything.
Speaker 2: I was telling Stephan the other night, I was explaining
Speaker 2: to him what a party line was.
Speaker 5: Oh Man those were great. I was a little girl,
Speaker 5: and I'd go over to the party line. I'd pick
Speaker 5: it up and I'd.
Speaker 2: Listen, just listening on people's calls, because no one's to
Speaker 2: stop you. You know, it's fine if you don't have
Speaker 2: to make a call, you just listen. But if you
Speaker 2: want to make a call, it might be a problem. Well,
Speaker 2: but that was once upon a time, mister mo'kelly with
Speaker 2: Marshall call your KFI AM six forty. But now phones
Speaker 2: are so sophisticated. They are like the windows to our soul.
Speaker 2: They are the entry point for everything that we do,
Speaker 2: from entertainment to paying our bills, to banking, I'll say,
Speaker 2: the sharing documents. Anything that we need to do can
Speaker 2: be done on that little computer box that we keep
Speaker 2: in our pockets.
Speaker 3: It's very valuable.
Speaker 2: And since it's very valuable, people want to steal from
Speaker 2: us via that little box.
Speaker 4: But the thing is, do you do you really talk
Speaker 4: to that many people on your phone?
Speaker 3: Really? You mean as a hello vote voice communication?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I make one to two calls per week.
Speaker 4: The oh, and I have it on account. I'll only
Speaker 4: do like if I have to do it one a day.
Speaker 2: Well, people who know me know that the only time
Speaker 2: you're really going to get me on the phone is
Speaker 2: in my car on my way to the station, because
Speaker 2: I have a good hour hour and a half where
Speaker 2: i'm captive and I can give you all the time
Speaker 2: that you need outside of that.
Speaker 3: Good luck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you know that's what I text.
Speaker 3: Your right exactly.
Speaker 2: But because the phone is so sophisticated and also has
Speaker 2: so much important information, criminals have got smarter. The technology
Speaker 2: for criminals has gotten more sophisticated. We've all heard of
Speaker 2: deep fakes, We've all heard of AI, We've all heard
Speaker 2: of all these phone scams, but now they're being put
Speaker 2: together and almost like a brute force attack on us.
Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting is you really shouldn't pick up the
Speaker 4: phone unless you really know who it is.
Speaker 2: Anymore, we shouldn't have a voice conversation with anyone.
Speaker 4: You just talked about deep fakes. We talked about voice
Speaker 4: AI impersonations. They can make a voice sound like you mo.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: They're even talking about having talking gravestones where they'll take
Speaker 4: recordings from a person's life ooh, and they will make
Speaker 4: little discussions so you can walk up to the gravestone
Speaker 4: ask how they're doing.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, oh yeah, oh that's not what I want.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, but he's going to think of something.
Speaker 3: If I understand.
Speaker 2: It's because we know that people can and spoof numbers
Speaker 2: where it will show up on your caller.
Speaker 3: Ida is something something number right, or they don't.
Speaker 4: Even have to do that. They can say private call. Okay,
Speaker 4: here's an example. I got this from tech Crunch because
Speaker 4: I got a share That's where I got it. Ferrari
Speaker 4: executive is using WhatsApp. I use WhatsApp when I talk
Speaker 4: internationally and whatever. It's like a phone call. And the
Speaker 4: messages were coming from the CEO of Ferrari and the
Speaker 4: guy didn't recognize the number. He couldn't really be sure
Speaker 4: it was his boss. So after a bunch of these messages,
Speaker 4: he said to the purported CEO.
Speaker 5: That he really had to talk to him. So he
Speaker 5: spoke to him.
Speaker 4: And this person had the southern Italian accent, sounded just
Speaker 4: like him. Was actually you couldn't identify him in any
Speaker 4: other way vocally but being that CEO. So when he
Speaker 4: did that, the guy said, tell me something, and he
Speaker 4: asked the caller something only the CEO would know because
Speaker 4: they had met and discussed this two days earlier and
Speaker 4: the call was disconnected. Now this is the CEO of Ferrari.
Speaker 4: These are the employees of Ferrari being fooled. This can
Speaker 4: happen anywhere. It's not a point anymore where it happens
Speaker 4: just to special people. And if you think you're so cool,
Speaker 4: you know, I still get calls from people that say
Speaker 4: private number.
Speaker 3: Oh you won't get me on the phone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not answering it.
Speaker 3: Hell no.
Speaker 5: And I might put this to talking to a stranger.
Speaker 5: How much you enjoy it?
Speaker 4: And you know, there are great people at car dealerships
Speaker 4: and and they do a great job showing you features
Speaker 4: of a car.
Speaker 5: You're wonderful people.
Speaker 4: But I gotta tell you it's the most stressful time
Speaker 4: in my life when I talk to somebody at a
Speaker 4: car dealer because sometimes they are very good salespeople. They
Speaker 4: can sell you down the river real fast, and a
Speaker 4: good salesman can do it. And if they get you
Speaker 4: on the phone by some way, you can become part
Speaker 4: of a scam. And your phone number and your social
Speaker 4: Security number and your home address and your name have
Speaker 4: been leaked on that billions of people leak.
Speaker 3: This is so much more complicated and simple.
Speaker 2: At the same time, it's complicated because there's a technological
Speaker 2: aspect where they can and I'm just put it all together.
Speaker 2: It can be a private number that can spoof a number.
Speaker 2: It could be a person that you think you're you know,
Speaker 2: that you're talking to using seemingly their actual voice, not
Speaker 2: a random person's voice, and they can put it all
Speaker 2: together and extract money and information.
Speaker 3: Out of you.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, And believe me, if the police want money
Speaker 4: for a ticket, they're not going to call you or
Speaker 4: the irs. The IRS at your bank is not going
Speaker 4: to call you for money. Nobody is going to request
Speaker 4: payment in gift cards. This just doesn't happen. Don't believe
Speaker 4: any of the three you know, and I hate to
Speaker 4: say it. If they say they're, you know, with the
Speaker 4: Police League for Goodness or whatever it is, you don't
Speaker 4: know who they are. And you have to know who
Speaker 4: people are. I got an email, and I know we're
Speaker 4: talking about voice, but I got an email from a
Speaker 4: legitimate person T Mobile. Oh excuse me, that was a
Speaker 4: call I got. But I got an email. It was
Speaker 4: from a legitimate person.
Speaker 5: I knew the name.
Speaker 4: It had my address, my cell phone number, and my
Speaker 4: full name as part of the email that was the
Speaker 4: scariest thing I've ever gotten, and you.
Speaker 2: Knew it was fishing, but still they had enough accurate
Speaker 2: infront it.
Speaker 4: I googled the name and it was a legitimate name,
Speaker 4: and so there was an attachment on it that was
Speaker 4: it was a PDF, and I ran it through super
Speaker 4: super strong security software and it was clean, and I
Speaker 4: let Google run it through their software in the cloud,
Speaker 4: and I read it and it was you know, I
Speaker 4: have I've put a keystrokelogger on your computer.
Speaker 5: And this is the short story.
Speaker 4: Because they went on and on and shamed you and
Speaker 4: shamed you for watching your dirty porn on the computer
Speaker 4: and for only this much bitcoin sent to such and
Speaker 4: such an address. Let me tell you, it was very convincing,
Speaker 4: very convinced, so convincing that I'm on Facebook the other
Speaker 4: day and I see that somebody else has gotten that
Speaker 4: same email, and who has obviously been watching some nasty
Speaker 4: porn there, who's talking about how he's not going to
Speaker 4: send them the money.
Speaker 2: Marshall, call you, So what is it you're telling us
Speaker 2: right now? Are you telling us about a scammer? You
Speaker 2: telling us about your porn video has?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I gave it up.
Speaker 4: All I'm telling you is you have to watch out
Speaker 4: for everything that happens. I got a phone call from somebody.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was a listener of KFI.
Speaker 5: You know, at least leave a.
Speaker 4: Text message, let me know, leave a message if you
Speaker 4: really want to talk to me, and you happen to
Speaker 4: have come across my number and you have to call me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I don't know you.
Speaker 5: I'm not answering the phone. Yeah, it's just not going
Speaker 5: to happen.
Speaker 3: But it was.
Speaker 4: I looked up the name and the number was a
Speaker 4: legitimate person in the LA area, and I normally would
Speaker 4: have called back, and I said, no, why because they're
Speaker 4: better salesman than me, who can probably convince me that
Speaker 4: scary stuff is going on.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of scary stuff each and every week.
Speaker 2: We have to tell you about scary stuff. But there's
Speaker 2: a way to navigate this and maneuver around it. And
Speaker 2: that's why we love you, Marshall Collier, because you help
Speaker 2: protect us sometimes from ourselves.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's really hard.
Speaker 4: I know you want to answer that phone, but if
Speaker 4: you don't recognize who it is, don't answer it.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Marshall Callier and we'll see you again
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 3: Next week. No, that's right, you're gone next week.
Speaker 5: I have to go investigate oil wells.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 5: After I do that, I'll be back the following week.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Growing up as a kid, I thought I was going
Speaker 2: to be an astronaut. I really did want to grow
Speaker 2: up to be an astronaut. And then I started learning
Speaker 2: more about the vacuum of space, and I said, no,
Speaker 2: I do not want to be in an astronaut. I
Speaker 2: would rather not die in space or in the void
Speaker 2: of space. And maybe because I understood that space is
Speaker 2: really difficult, I grew up in the shadow of the
Speaker 2: Apollo missions. I didn't get to experience them firsthand. I
Speaker 2: was too young to best appreciate them. I was a
Speaker 2: Shuttle era era a kid where I followed all the
Speaker 2: Shuttle launches, and I dreamed of a time in which
Speaker 2: we would actually get to privatize space.
Speaker 3: We're now there.
Speaker 2: We can talk about the Boeing star Liner in that situation.
Speaker 2: We can talk about SpaceX, we can talk about now
Speaker 2: the first private space walk. I wanted to stay up
Speaker 2: all night and see it because I think it happened
Speaker 2: around for like three thirty in the morning. But I
Speaker 2: can't stay up past midnight. Maybe Mark Ronner could have,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what would be more inspiring to me than to
Speaker 6: watch a billionaire buy something else that it takes a
Speaker 6: normal person their entire life to achieve. Yeah, would that'd
Speaker 6: be great?
Speaker 2: The realization that I had was and this is coming
Speaker 2: from someone who grew up wanting to be an astronaut.
Speaker 2: I went from I would do it for free as
Speaker 2: as a kid to you could not pay me enough
Speaker 2: money to get on a space ship and then walk
Speaker 2: my ass out into the void just for the thrill
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 6: And yet you go on cruise ships when the ocean
Speaker 6: the ocean is equally inhospitable.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: I could, in theory fall off a cruise ship and
Speaker 2: paddle for five or ten minutes, and hopefully people have
Speaker 2: fallen off cruise ships and survived.
Speaker 3: There is no one who's been lost in space and survived.
Speaker 6: Well, you saw two thousand and one where Dave Bowman
Speaker 6: has to hold his breath to get from the capsule
Speaker 6: back into the ship.
Speaker 3: You can do that. I believe in you. You can
Speaker 3: hold your breath.
Speaker 2: See, there's a difference between movies and there's reality. And
Speaker 2: the reality is that no one survives in the vacuum
Speaker 2: of space if exposed to it. People have fallen off
Speaker 2: cruise ships and survived. Don't kid yourself, you're gonna die. Well,
Speaker 2: I am not die. I just want to have some
Speaker 2: saying how I'm going to die, and I'm just saying
Speaker 2: I'm not dying in space. And the thing is, this guy,
Speaker 2: Jared Jared Isaacman paid millions and millions of dollars just
Speaker 2: for the opportunity to kind of hover in space for
Speaker 2: about an hour or two.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: There is there's no scenario, there are no looks. Say,
Speaker 2: mister Kelly, will give you five million dollars to do it. Now,
Speaker 2: We'll give you ten million New, We'll give you a
Speaker 2: date with halle Berry and five million new.
Speaker 3: Well, let's think about it now.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it because I'm not putting myself in
Speaker 2: that position to die in space.
Speaker 6: And you find that odd. I find it cowardly. I
Speaker 6: find like you're siding up to go cowardly and shameful.
Speaker 2: Wait, he calls it cowardly, but won't get on a
Speaker 2: cruise ship. Right, he calls it cowardly, but won't go
Speaker 2: into a group of crowded people, A crowded group of people.
Speaker 6: Mar Yeah, we tried that experiment, and we saw how
Speaker 6: that turned out.
Speaker 3: Did you die? Came close? Oh, Mark, closer than I preferred. Mark.
Speaker 7: If you're not gonna get on a cruise ship, you
Speaker 7: cannot encourage space walks. I am a patriot, so I
Speaker 7: would go into space for my country. Okay, So that's
Speaker 7: all you need.
Speaker 2: Just a patch they're going to put on your arms,
Speaker 2: as you know, in a in a full fledged space astronaut.
Speaker 6: Well, no, if I could get laid with Halle Berry
Speaker 6: like you suggested a moment ago, that'd be great too.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that would be that would be sufficient. Then
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything again, la detour. I didn't say
Speaker 2: Halle I know you're listening right now. I said nothing
Speaker 2: about getting laid, No, no, no, just for company.
Speaker 3: Did say a date? Yeah, I said a date. Well,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, you all all dates mean sex. I'm saying,
Speaker 3: what is going on here? Man? I'm just food.
Speaker 2: It's dangerous enough to be in a in a capsule
Speaker 2: in outer space. Okay, I'm not trying to get killed
Speaker 2: by Hallie, all right. I respect the woman too much
Speaker 2: for that. Oh, I respect her enormously. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to be in the sixty two mile high club.
Speaker 6: I'm I would enjoy showing my respect to her for
Speaker 6: like twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: What if we walk in? What does that happening? I
Speaker 3: need a good hour?
Speaker 2: Okay, here, here's here's the here's the here's the goodness. Okay,
Speaker 2: oh my, don't you don't you dare step in? Don't
Speaker 2: you will? I will come through the screen, and don't
Speaker 2: you len against company policy?
Speaker 3: Foods.
Speaker 2: You don't have to take that. Okay, here's the real question.
Speaker 2: What would be your price to do an hour or
Speaker 2: two space walk connected to SpaceX? This is not NASA,
Speaker 2: they were actually testing new space suits.
Speaker 6: Okay, well you since you say SpaceX, if it's an
Speaker 6: Elon Musk venture, then no, you couldn't get me.
Speaker 3: To do it. Okay, what about boweling star Liner?
Speaker 6: I don't know, but you know, if Musk's uh spacewalks
Speaker 6: or anything like Twitter or his cars, I'm gonna give
Speaker 6: it a pass.
Speaker 3: You know that he doesn't actually build anything, right, you
Speaker 3: know that? Yeah, I've read this. Yeah, okay, okay, let's
Speaker 3: start with you, Stefan.
Speaker 2: What is your price to go up in a privatize
Speaker 2: spaceship and do a space walk for two hours? Uh?
Speaker 3: The more you talk about it, the more I don't
Speaker 3: know want to do it. But I'd say, let's say
Speaker 3: two hundred million. That's a reasonable price. Is that all?
Speaker 3: What a bargain? Mark your turn? What's your price?
Speaker 6: I'd just do it unless it was unless it was
Speaker 6: run by Elon Musk, and then I would absolutely never
Speaker 6: do it under any circumstances Bezos. Well, didn't Shatner go
Speaker 6: up with Bezos? Yeah, but Shatner lived and he's in
Speaker 6: his nineties. He didn't do a space walk. He's just
Speaker 6: safe enough.
Speaker 3: He didn't. He didn't actually leave the orbiter.
Speaker 6: Well, if I were with Bezos, I would make him
Speaker 6: go first, and if he didn't die immediately, I'd follow him.
Speaker 7: Okay, Swaller, there's there's absolutely nothing. There's no price. I
Speaker 7: mean like like if I could be bought for a spacewalk,
Speaker 7: I could be bought for anything, So there's no price.
Speaker 3: If I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 7: And to me, whether it's a shoddy Musk rocket or
Speaker 7: a sleek Besos rocket, I mean, I look, I am
Speaker 7: someone who, if I was given five years to live,
Speaker 7: I'm signing up for the Mars mission because I'm like,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm gonna go out doing something the crazy.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just because you know you're going to die
Speaker 2: within a certain amount of time, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: you're opening your stuff up to die horribly.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know if I believe that everything
Speaker 7: is going to be horrible and tragic. I think if
Speaker 7: you know, if it's like, hey, you know, you can
Speaker 7: make this mark and live forever, and infamy will have
Speaker 7: a school named after you, will rename you know. I
Speaker 7: don't know a college radio station after you. I don't
Speaker 7: know the Sharp Sharp studio or the Sharp launch site. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm going to Mars. The Sharp crater on Mars, Okay,
Speaker 7: put it this way, crater, that's mark.
Speaker 2: Look, I think of going out into outer space, like
Speaker 2: going on that sub which imploded.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that would do.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying it's just because to Twalla's point, just
Speaker 2: because he may be terminal with cancer or something like that,
Speaker 2: heading forbid, and I'm pushing that on to you. That
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that I'm going to start doing really crazy
Speaker 2: and stupid things, because there is still a horrible way
Speaker 2: to die before you get to the cancer.
Speaker 7: Is enough getting me on the damn boat. You think
Speaker 7: I'm getting on a sub No, I don't have that
Speaker 7: much love for water.
Speaker 3: But out of space it's the same thing. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no.
Speaker 6: For me.
Speaker 7: Outer space that is something that has long fascinated me.
Speaker 7: And if I had nothing to lose, or not way
Speaker 7: too much to lose, I've way too much to lose.
Speaker 7: They got kids to watch grow up, you know, have grandkids, runner,
Speaker 7: I got all that to look forward to. But heaven
Speaker 7: forbid within the next you know, I don't know, twenty
Speaker 7: years and they fully developed this Mars habitat where they
Speaker 7: will live for a year or so, or maybe it'll
Speaker 7: live for two weeks or so and then die horribly
Speaker 7: by the Martian radiation. I might say, you know what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I call BS twelve because you won't even get
Speaker 2: on a subway and you're gonna stay in No.
Speaker 7: Look, I've been on I've even been on this crazy
Speaker 7: metro sub and was trapped on the car with some
Speaker 7: crazy person talking the entire time or underground, you know
Speaker 7: there's those, and she was going off threatened to Kenselboddy. Okay,
Speaker 7: well I've been on that all right.
Speaker 2: So if that's I'll just say claustrophobic for you, What
Speaker 2: do you think is going to be on a Bezos
Speaker 2: ship or a SpaceX ship. They're not like, uh, enterprise size.
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Speaker 2: And football season as well underway college and pro. But
Speaker 2: if you're a college football fan like me, you probably
Speaker 2: were heartbroken at the end or what was thought to
Speaker 2: be the end of the Pac twelve conference. You know,
Speaker 2: USC is not in the Pac twelve anymore. They're in
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. They're over there with Wisconsin and Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa.
Speaker 2: They're in the Big Ten, as is Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 2: When do you think, well, who's left in the in
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve? Well, did you know? Did you know
Speaker 2: that Stanford and UC Berkeley they're now in the A,
Speaker 2: which is the Atlantic Coast Conference. Stafford and UC Berkeley,
Speaker 2: which are only maybe a few miles as it were,
Speaker 2: from the Pacific Ocean, are playing in the Atlantic Coast
Speaker 2: Conference on the other side of the country. Well you think, then,
Speaker 2: what's going to happen with the PAC twelve. Was it
Speaker 2: just going to be defunct? Was it just gonna di
Speaker 2: disintegrate into nothing? No, it's not dead yet because now
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve has welcomed Fresno State, San Diego State,
Speaker 2: Boise State, as In Idaho, and Colorado State Universities to
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. The only two schools which were remaining
Speaker 2: were Oregon State and Washington State. So the PAC twelve
Speaker 2: is still somewhat a West Coast conference. It won't have
Speaker 2: the heavy weights that it once had before because UCLA
Speaker 2: and USC obviously went to the Big Ten, followed by
Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington to the Big Ten, and most of
Speaker 2: the other schools left for different conferences in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2: But there will be still a PAC twelve conference, at
Speaker 2: least for the near future. Now, it won't have the
Speaker 2: same feeling, it won't have the same appeal, it won't
Speaker 2: have the same bowl alignment from what I understand, because
Speaker 2: in decades past, you'd have the winner of the PAC
Speaker 2: twelve face off with the winner of the Big Ten
Speaker 2: in the Rose Bowl. And I don't know if that
Speaker 2: alliance is still going to hold given the imbalance of
Speaker 2: the two conferences. You can't have some like Colorado State
Speaker 2: versus Michigan in the Rose Bowl. That wouldn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: But the PAC twelve, as we once knew it is dead.
Speaker 2: But you will have some and Frinstale State is a
Speaker 2: good football school. Boise State is a good football school.
Speaker 2: Colorado State not so much. You know, Oregon State, Washington State,
Speaker 2: they were at the bottom of the PAC twelve. But
Speaker 2: at least you will still have West Coast football being
Speaker 2: featured in the PAC twelve. And Teresa Gould, who is
Speaker 2: the commissioner of the PAC twelve, said quote for over
Speaker 2: a century, the PAC twelve conference has been recognized as
Speaker 2: a leading brand in intercollegiate athletics, which it has been.
Speaker 2: She goes on, we will continue to pursue bold, cutting
Speaker 2: edge opportunities for growth and progress to best serve our
Speaker 2: member institutions and student athletes. I'm thankful to our board
Speaker 2: for their efforts to welcome Boise and State University, Coado
Speaker 2: State University, California State University Fresno, and San Diego State
Speaker 2: University to the conference and exciting new era for the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve conference begins today. And I remember for decades
Speaker 2: they would tell us we can't have a football playoff
Speaker 2: because it would ruin the conference bowl alignment and the
Speaker 2: bowl matchups like the Rose Bowl or the Orange Bowl
Speaker 2: and the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 3: And we knew that wasn't true.
Speaker 2: It's just that there wasn't enough money in the college
Speaker 2: Football Playoff for these commissioners to start making these moves.
Speaker 2: Now there is, and now the teams have started moving.
Speaker 2: That's why UCLA and USC moved to the Big Ten,
Speaker 2: which makes no damn sense because there's no real geographical continuity.
Speaker 2: You have these West Coast teams and got Rutgers in
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. You have a new Jersey school in
Speaker 2: California schools in the same conference. What's the point of
Speaker 2: having conferences at all? But that's the way it is
Speaker 2: now because it's all about that money. And there is
Speaker 2: so much money in college football and this National Football Playoff,
Speaker 2: which has been expanded to twelve teams, that some schools,
Speaker 2: some commissioners could not turn down the opportunity to make
Speaker 2: millions on top of millions for the respective universities. And
Speaker 2: I get it, you can't leave those paydays on the table.
Speaker 2: But as someone who grew up loving college football, loving
Speaker 2: USC even to this day, you fall in love with
Speaker 2: not only the team, but also the matchups, the rivalries,
Speaker 2: the significance of the Rose Bowl, an idea of USC
Speaker 2: versus UCLA here in southern California, and what that would
Speaker 2: mean for the Pac twelve conference. It used to be
Speaker 2: the Pack eight, then it went to the Pac ten
Speaker 2: and then to the Pac twelve, but you still had
Speaker 2: the goal of playing for a chance to play in
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl against the Big ten champion. And that
Speaker 2: tradition now no longer exists, and sometimes we can be
Speaker 2: prisoners of nostalgia, but that was something I think which
Speaker 2: made college football better, those long standing rivalries that we
Speaker 2: won't have in the same way anymore. But the Pac
Speaker 2: twelve is not done yet. Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State,
Speaker 2: and San Diego State are now members of the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2: And I know Mark Ronald doesn't care, but it's a
Speaker 2: big deal. Twalla Sharp does not care, but it's a
Speaker 2: huge deal. I've listened to every single word you just said.
Speaker 2: I know you listen. You just you did not comprehend
Speaker 2: any of them. Oh no, it's all burned into my
Speaker 2: mind now. It's very important. Okay, all right. Did you
Speaker 2: even care about anything in Washington Athletics when you were
Speaker 2: up there?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, I'm sure I went. Well, Paquino's the Pac ten.
Speaker 2: Right right, which is I don't know how long ago
Speaker 2: at this point, so I and now that it's the twelve,
Speaker 2: I have no interest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's either ten or nothing. I insist on ten.
Speaker 2: Was it Washington University of Washington or Washington State that
Speaker 2: you gravitated to?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 6: Both, But the only games I went to were WSU
Speaker 6: in Pullman because because there's nothing else to do there.
Speaker 3: Really, I've never been there. Don't don't do it.
Speaker 6: That's the place I told you either last night or
Speaker 6: the night before that, the drinking ages nineteen in Idaho,
Speaker 6: So everybody drove the eight miles to get loaded because
Speaker 6: there's nothing to do there.
Speaker 2: You know, my geography is not the best, but I
Speaker 2: have to remind myself that Idaho is that close when
Speaker 2: it comes to the eastern portion of Washington and Pullman
Speaker 2: being on the eastern portion of the state.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Idaho might as well have its own state. And
Speaker 6: I don't want to give these geniuses any ideas it
Speaker 6: might as well form its own state with eastern Washington,
Speaker 6: because they're very much of like minds.
Speaker 2: Well, look, Idaho, they've been trying to I can't should
Speaker 2: I say this? You know they they have their own
Speaker 2: way of thinking there, and it's not a place I
Speaker 2: want to visit that much.
Speaker 6: I know, without getting too explicit, I can tell you
Speaker 6: you particularly might not be very welcome. Yes, yes, me,
Speaker 6: I could, I could pass you not so much. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: We would have a misunderstanding there in Idaho. Yeah, I suspect.
Speaker 2: So it's one of the states I haven't visited and
Speaker 2: I don't plan to visit in this lifetime.
Speaker 3: No reason to go. It's not like they have Disneyland
Speaker 3: there or something. Yeah, choose life instead, Mo.
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