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Speaker 1: Forty fifty five KERR ceed talk station Happy Today Extra
Speaker 1: Special the return of the next Governor of the State
Speaker 1: of Ohio, V. Bake Ramaswami, who was at the town
Speaker 1: hall last night along with Christopher Smithman who was on
Speaker 1: the program earlier talking about that welcome back vv. It
Speaker 1: is a pleasure to have you on the program, and
Speaker 1: thank you so much for attending that town hall last night.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were actually quite enlightened. Although you did
Speaker 1: a fantastic job with your ideas and suggestions. You're just
Speaker 1: so impressive with your ability to deal with questions on
Speaker 1: the fly. But what was your reaction to the event overall?
Speaker 1: And welcome back to the morning show.
Speaker 2: It's great to be on my lot.
Speaker 4: It is that people are hungry to be heard, because
Speaker 4: this issue of crime and Cincinnati isn't just a one
Speaker 4: off episode that came from a week.
Speaker 2: And a half ago.
Speaker 4: What's clear to me is you hear the stories of
Speaker 4: people who came last night.
Speaker 2: This is an issue that needs to be.
Speaker 4: Addressed systemically, holistically, and so giving people a chance to
Speaker 4: at least share their right We heard from whose story
Speaker 4: is now well known. Her husband was killed in cold
Speaker 4: blood in her home by a man who had managed
Speaker 4: to manipulate his own ankle bracelet. Another mother who spoke
Speaker 4: last night, who had lost two sons. Yes, is staggering
Speaker 4: two gun violence in Cincinnati. Not one, but two sons
Speaker 4: killed in our city, Cincinnaty. It was eye opening and
Speaker 4: so I think the fact that we were able to
Speaker 4: have open dialogue and some contrary views too that you
Speaker 4: heard last night, Yes, at least allowed us to air
Speaker 4: that frustration rather than sweeping it under the rug. And
Speaker 4: that is how I hope to lead this state, is
Speaker 4: not through agreeing on everything with everyone. That's impossible, but
Speaker 4: at least having an open, respectful dialogue that brings people
Speaker 4: and to harness as practical solutions in this case to
Speaker 4: address the istrue Island crime. And that's exactly what we're
Speaker 4: going to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess you had some really terrific ideas.
Speaker 1: I guess the frustrating part for me, and I can
Speaker 1: only characterize it as frustrating. That was my kind of
Speaker 1: my reaction. You identified the problems we can address law
Speaker 1: enforcement resources, allocation of law enforcement, increasing numbers of police department,
Speaker 1: that kind of direct you know, on the street, sort
Speaker 1: of chains that could be brought about rather quickly. But
Speaker 1: the broader, longer term problem and maybe the root of
Speaker 1: the violence is a systemic problem. And you focused a
Speaker 1: lot about bringing back accountability back to the family and
Speaker 1: how important the family unit is and it used to
Speaker 1: be a societally stabilizing factor. But you know, the the
Speaker 1: nuclear family disappeared shortly after the Johnson administrations welfare policies.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about that a lot last night too.
Speaker 4: That's right, and I'm glad we got to those deeper
Speaker 4: issues last night. So first of all, the fact that
Speaker 4: there are deeper issues shouldn't stop us from addressing some
Speaker 4: of the more superficial ways we can still get empowering
Speaker 4: cops to be able to do their job, common sense,
Speaker 4: making sure that we're not releasing repeat fount offenders on
Speaker 4: minimal bond easily fixable, bringing back mental health institutions to
Speaker 4: make sure that psychiatrically ill people aren't just roaming the
Speaker 4: streets and aren't just.
Speaker 2: Filling up the jails.
Speaker 4: These are common sense things that we're going to be
Speaker 4: able to take care of. But those aren't the root causes,
Speaker 4: of course, And so the root caused a nuclear family?
Speaker 4: What caused the breakdown of the nuclear family. I said
Speaker 4: this last night. I don't blame black people, I don't
Speaker 4: blame white people. I blame the government because it is
Speaker 4: our federal government. Starting with Lyndon Johnson's misnamed Great Society Project,
Speaker 4: that we started creating financial incentives.
Speaker 2: For the breakdown of that nuclear family.
Speaker 4: Created a new culture of dependence in the United States
Speaker 4: of America, and it's created a new kind of new
Speaker 4: kind of emancipation proclamation that we need today and emancipation
Speaker 4: from those failed government incentives that have set back the
Speaker 4: very people who were supposedly supposed to be helped by
Speaker 4: those policies.
Speaker 2: And you know that's going to require some changes and
Speaker 2: athids across the country. A lot of those are caused
Speaker 2: federal law.
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you tile, I want us to be
Speaker 4: a state that sets an example for the rest of
Speaker 4: the country to say that, you know what, we're going
Speaker 4: to create a generation of young people who were so
Speaker 4: well educated through it education system that's no longer behind China,
Speaker 4: but ahead it's economic opportunity through economic activity, come into
Speaker 4: the state to create good paying jobs that you don't
Speaker 4: need to dependent on that federal welfare state because frankly,
Speaker 4: it's be't good for individuals and it isn't sustainable.
Speaker 2: For our net anyway. I want us to be a
Speaker 2: state that's planning ahead for that future.
Speaker 4: And if we're fixing that education system, we're fixing those
Speaker 4: root causes. Combine that with common sense reforms in our
Speaker 4: judicial system and law enforcement. That's going to also create
Speaker 4: a prosperous Cincinnati and prosperous cities across our state. And
Speaker 4: I do think we have an opportunity to do. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is why and this Brian is these.
Speaker 2: Are fixable issues. They want a state to put a
Speaker 2: man on the mood. That's a scientific problem that we solved.
Speaker 2: This is easy by comparison.
Speaker 4: These are man made problems that have man made solutions.
Speaker 4: We're not missing knowledge of how to do it. What
Speaker 4: we're arguably missing is courage. And that's what I'm bringing
Speaker 4: to the table, starting from the top and setting that
Speaker 4: tone statewide.
Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that's.
Speaker 4: Going to, as we saw last night, bring all kinds
Speaker 4: of people together of different kinds of backgrounds and political
Speaker 4: persuasion around those common sense ideals that I do believe
Speaker 4: unite most people in this state.
Speaker 1: Well, you did mention the judicial system, and that's one
Speaker 1: of the more frustrating elements of all this. If we
Speaker 1: had a mayor that was pro police and was outspoken
Speaker 1: and support of police and communities working with police, that
Speaker 1: would be great. If we had a police chief that
Speaker 1: was measurably competent and good at allocating police resources and
Speaker 1: had sufficient police numbers, a contingent of police officers there
Speaker 1: to help and serve the community. That would be great.
Speaker 1: That problem can be fixed, But until you get to
Speaker 1: the judicial system, assuming the prosecutor's office is willing to
Speaker 1: prosecute people to the fullest extent of the law. The
Speaker 1: failure in our area, this county particularly is with the
Speaker 1: judges who don't seem to be interested in enforcing the
Speaker 1: criminal law.
Speaker 4: Well, look, I think we got some very practical ideas
Speaker 4: that we've even surfaced over the course of yesterday. And
Speaker 4: as you know, I'm born and raised in Cincinnati. Since
Speaker 4: day's my hometown, I feel special sentence of connection and
Speaker 4: also obligation to make sure that if our hometown is
Speaker 4: in making national example, it's in a positive light, not
Speaker 4: a negative light like the last days.
Speaker 2: And so that's part of what I came back.
Speaker 4: And even during the visit, the town hall was obviously
Speaker 4: publicly visible. If you just see how many people came
Speaker 4: out even you're talking, we had thirteen hundred plus RSVPs
Speaker 4: and the room was we had overflow space.
Speaker 2: Shows that people are hungry to be heard. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, you also, you.
Speaker 4: Know, you also have to listen to the people who
Speaker 4: disagree with you and may have different perspectives as well.
Speaker 4: So over the course of the day, I met with
Speaker 4: the mayor of Cincinnati, I met with the police chief,
Speaker 4: I met.
Speaker 2: With law enforcement officers.
Speaker 4: Some of those police officers that the level of the
Speaker 4: individual officers had great ideas that I learned a lot from.
Speaker 2: I met with business leaders in Cincinnati, and then we
Speaker 2: went to the town hall.
Speaker 4: One of the practical ideas that came out of several
Speaker 4: of those meetings and also at the town hall is
Speaker 4: greater accountability through transparency for the judges and the decisions
Speaker 4: that they actually make.
Speaker 1: Amen.
Speaker 4: And so that's something that came out of the discussion
Speaker 4: we had yesterday was the judges need to at least
Speaker 4: be publicly visible and held to a standard of public
Speaker 4: transparency in.
Speaker 2: The decisions they're actually making.
Speaker 4: And you my son missed me last night, so he's
Speaker 4: five years old and just walked into the room, so
Speaker 4: you'll probably here.
Speaker 1: That's all right, enjoy it while it lasts.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: That transparency component goes a long way to educating the
Speaker 1: public to help us make better, more informed decisions. Because
Speaker 1: unless you're involved in the criminal justice system. Most people
Speaker 1: don't have any ounce or wit of information about any
Speaker 1: judicial candidate. They don't run in the party system. They
Speaker 1: can't obviously render advisory opinions and tell you how they're
Speaker 1: going to ruin any given circumstance, so that's out of
Speaker 1: the out of the equation. They don't do debates, so
Speaker 1: we're largely in the dark about where they stand on
Speaker 1: any given topic and whether they're hard or soft on crime.
Speaker 1: That is reflected in their record, which is what we
Speaker 1: need to see see.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly it, right. I mean, you could
Speaker 2: have a debate.
Speaker 4: Go on is ring on sort of the same types
Speaker 4: of issues that a government candidate would be, or a
Speaker 4: US presidential candidate or even a congressional candidate. That's fair fine,
Speaker 4: but at least making sure that the record is transparent
Speaker 4: to the public.
Speaker 2: That information that belongs to the public. It doesn't belong
Speaker 2: to some sort of bureaucrat.
Speaker 4: It belongs to the public that we, the voting public,
Speaker 4: deserve to know because you can't hold them accountable at
Speaker 4: the ballot box without that basic knowledge of what.
Speaker 2: That record is. So I'm just Protestsparency I.
Speaker 4: Mean, we the people create a government that's accountable to
Speaker 4: us the other way around, and the idea then the
Speaker 4: left the judge is going to make decisions on bond,
Speaker 4: on sentencing without the public having credible, clear, preparent access
Speaker 4: to that information is money, I think, And that was
Speaker 4: anyway a productive, constructive solution. We don't care what targe're in,
Speaker 4: Democrat or Republican. That kind of transparency, it is something
Speaker 4: we all ought to be able.
Speaker 2: To agree on.
Speaker 4: And that's the kind of common sense reform and common
Speaker 4: sense sort of just basic policy making that I want
Speaker 4: to breed this state that doesn't take knowledge.
Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't rocket science right now, not complicated.
Speaker 4: It's kurch Bryan and that's what I'm hoping to bring
Speaker 4: to the leadership of this stick.
Speaker 1: Well on behalf of all the residence City of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time to listen
Speaker 1: to the voices and hear the suggestions and understand the problems.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we will find solutions and solve the broader crime
Speaker 1: problem but also broader issues in the state. V. V.
Speaker 1: Ramaswami will be our next governor. Find him online learn
Speaker 1: more about who he is. Brilliant obviously demonstrably so. And
Speaker 1: you've got such great vision. And let me compliment before
Speaker 1: we part company. Viveke, you are so inspirational. No one
Speaker 1: can leave a meeting where we hear you speak and
Speaker 1: feel like we're going in a bad direction. You're a
Speaker 1: cheerleader for the state of Ohio and its future, and
Speaker 1: I find that refreshing in a candidate, since we always
Speaker 1: seem to, you know, go to the lowest common denominator
Speaker 1: when we're dealing with politicians.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that bruh.
Speaker 4: It means a lot and includes my hometown of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: And everything our run. So thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Will be to pen more.
Speaker 1: Always got a form here in the morning show. Vvek
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