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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. A couple of days ago, we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Leon Black and how he had won a court

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<v Speaker 1>battle to sanction one of his accusers. Well, now The

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian has a very extensive article out going a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit deeper into the situation with Leon Black and the

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<v Speaker 1>accuser who is accusing him of abusing her and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the allegations. Some of the information that we're learning

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<v Speaker 1>is very disturbing, such as Leon Black and his team

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out to the judge behind the scenes. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem like a very good idea, does it. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem like it's in the spirit of fairness, especially considering

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<v Speaker 1>how powerful Leon Black is. Anyway, So we have a

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<v Speaker 1>very extensive article here from The Guardian, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to break it down into multiple pieces. So let's dive

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<v Speaker 1>into episode one of this Guardian article and see what

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<v Speaker 1>they have to say about Leon Black and his ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>legal battle with his accuser. Headlined Epstein link. Billionaire accused

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<v Speaker 1>of rape privately reached out the federal judge to defend

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<v Speaker 1>his good name. Like what that doesn't seem like the

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<v Speaker 1>proper way to do it? Shouldn't you do that inside

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<v Speaker 1>the courtroom? Did the judge receive anything improper from Leon Black?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about Judge Rakoff here, So what did

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<v Speaker 1>he receive from Leon Black? If anything? And why is

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Black reaching out to him behind the scenes. Sounds

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot like what Jeffrey Epstein was doing with

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<v Speaker 1>the NPA. This article was authored by Johannah Berkman and

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<v Speaker 1>Johannah great job. This is a very very good article,

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<v Speaker 1>very well put together and exactly on point. Lawyers for

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Black, the billionaire investor who has been accused in

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<v Speaker 1>a civil lawsuit of raping a teenage girl inside Epstein's

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<v Speaker 1>New York townhouse in two thousand and two, reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to a powerful federal judge in twenty twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>raise doubts about the alleged victims claims. A Guardian investigation

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<v Speaker 1>has found the move set off a month long court proceeding,

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<v Speaker 1>which was conducted outside public view and led to US

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<v Speaker 1>District Judge Jed Raykoff to reverse a two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half million dollar reward that had been granted to the

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<v Speaker 1>alleged victim in a separate Epstein related class action lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>According to court records. She was later given a much

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<v Speaker 1>smaller settlement in the class action case. Absolutely disgusting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>for real, Judge Raykoff, Really, that's what you're doing. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going back and you're reversing a decision because Leon Black

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<v Speaker 1>and his people reached out to you. Cowardice, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, straight up cowardice. Jane Doe, as she's known

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<v Speaker 1>in court filings, his claim she was trafficked by Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>and rape by Black when she was a teenager more

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<v Speaker 1>than two decades ago. The Guardian's investigation is revealing new

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<v Speaker 1>details about the private communitytion in Black's legal campaign, which

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<v Speaker 1>undermined Doe in her civil lawsuit against the Wall Street billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>And can you imagine being this Dough going up against

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<v Speaker 1>somebody like Leon Black and then having the federal system

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<v Speaker 1>come down on you on behalf of Leon Black. It

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<v Speaker 1>is unconscionable, Absolutely unconscionable. In a recent court order, Dough

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<v Speaker 1>faced a significant setback when Jessica Clark, the federal judge

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<v Speaker 1>presiding over her civil lawsuit against Black, sanctioned Doe and

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<v Speaker 1>her former lawyer for serious sanctionable misconduct in the case.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that the former lawyer had repeatedly lied to

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<v Speaker 1>the court and opposing council and directed her client to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy a social media account. Dough was sanctioned for having

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<v Speaker 1>falsified some sonogram images that appeared in personal journals, which

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<v Speaker 1>were submitted to the court as evidence in her abuse

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<v Speaker 1>by Epstein. However, it was not a complete victory for Black,

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<v Speaker 1>as the judge also ruled that the high stakes lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>could proceed. But make no mistake, this is a serious

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<v Speaker 1>setback for Jane Doe. The fact that she was sanctioned,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that her lawyer was sanctioned. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>come up in any criminal or civil case, right and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that Leon Black's team, they're going to look

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<v Speaker 1>to utilize that. Black, the seventy four year old former

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<v Speaker 1>Apollo Global Management CEO, pet Epstein one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>million according to an investigation by the Senate Finance Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>which he says was for tax and estate planning. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine paying someone one hundred and seventy million American

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for tax and estate planning. Black has denied allegations

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<v Speaker 1>that he raped or ever met, though who is now

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<v Speaker 1>forty years old. He's never been charged with any crimes

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<v Speaker 1>and connection to Epstein or otherwise. I'm sure him paying

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two million dollars to the US Virgin Islands to

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<v Speaker 1>get his name out of the fire played a part

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<v Speaker 1>in that, though right. The Epstein scandal has prompted questions

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<v Speaker 1>about why the accused sex traffickers elite circle of friends

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<v Speaker 1>and associates is not faced greater scrutiny that may change.

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<v Speaker 1>Black is due to testify before the House Oversight Committee

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<v Speaker 1>on June twenty six, according to a person familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the matter, as part of the committee's investigation into, among

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<v Speaker 1>other things, Epstein's sex trafficking rings. He's also facing questions

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<v Speaker 1>from the Democratic Senator Ron Wyden, who claimed in a

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<v Speaker 1>recent letter to Black that the Epstein files released by

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice remove any lingering doubt as to

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<v Speaker 1>whether Black was connected to women in Epstein's network, and

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<v Speaker 1>alleged that powerful associates in the US and abroad we're

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<v Speaker 1>surveilling and paying off women on Black's behalf. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the emails, and we know that they reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>Russian special services to do that. But I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>no big deal, right. I guess it's the girl who

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<v Speaker 1>was abused allegedly by Leon Black, who should be sanctioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Black's attorney, Susan Strich, called Widen's assertions outrageous and false

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<v Speaker 1>in an emailed statement, and characterized the senator's comments as

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<v Speaker 1>a politically motivated attack. What now politically motivated? That's taking

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<v Speaker 1>it a bit far. Maybe, just maybe Leon Black is

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<v Speaker 1>a dirt bag? How about that, Susan Strich. The Guardian's investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>based on access to extensive court records, many of which

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<v Speaker 1>are still under seal but are due to be unsealed soon,

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<v Speaker 1>reveals how Black and his legal team's private pleas to

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<v Speaker 1>a federal judge led to a legal battle involving extensive

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<v Speaker 1>written submissions and multiple hearings in a case in which

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<v Speaker 1>he was not a party. Well, of course, got to

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<v Speaker 1>have that extra pull behind the scenes, because I'm Leon Black,

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<v Speaker 1>mister big shot. It included an extraordinary personal appeal from

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<v Speaker 1>Black to Judge Rakoff, a well known and respected jurist

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<v Speaker 1>based in the Southern District of New York. The written message,

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<v Speaker 1>which was obtained by the Guardian, portrayed Black as a victim,

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<v Speaker 1>invoking the death of Black's father, disputing those credibility and

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<v Speaker 1>citing the damage the allegations have done to Black's reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was submitted by the billionaire's lawyers days before Raycoff

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<v Speaker 1>denied the two and a half million dollar reward that

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<v Speaker 1>Doe was due to receive in the Epstein related class

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<v Speaker 1>action lawsuit. Was Judge Rakoff paid off? Look? I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big question, right and I don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to back that up. But something here is a miss.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would Judge Rakoff do what Leam Black asked him

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<v Speaker 1>to do? I mean, I guess Judge Raykoff could think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the right thing to do, but that would really

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<v Speaker 1>call his judgment into question in my opinion. In another twist,

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<v Speaker 1>Black's legal effort was bolstered by a high profile lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>who was publicly heralded as an advocate for Epstein's victims.

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<v Speaker 1>All these communications occurred outside of public view. And remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I told you that all the lawyers involved, even

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are representing the survivors, shouldn't be trusted.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I mean. The vast majority of these

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers are just looking to collect a bag, and they

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<v Speaker 1>know that this is a big case, and they know

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<v Speaker 1>they can make a lot of money if they get

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<v Speaker 1>a settlement, so a lot of these people don't even

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<v Speaker 1>care about the survivors. In an exclusive statement to The

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian in which Doe described her feelings about what had transpired,

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<v Speaker 1>she said were often taught that the justice system is

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<v Speaker 1>here to protect victims and correct wrongs. My experience has

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<v Speaker 1>shown me that it's far more complicated than that. Justice

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<v Speaker 1>is not always blind. It's often shaped by power, access

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<v Speaker 1>and who is able to withstand the process. I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not done. In July of twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Do alleged in a legal complaint filed against Leon

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<v Speaker 1>Black in the Southern District of New York that Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein introduced her to Black at Epstein's townhouse in the

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<v Speaker 1>late spring of two thousand and two. She was sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Black, who was worth an estimated fourteen billion,

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<v Speaker 1>was the chair in chief executive officer of Apollo Global Management,

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<v Speaker 1>a private equity firm he co founded and led until

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<v Speaker 1>he stepped down in March of twenty twenty one in

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<v Speaker 1>the wake of the revelations he paid tens of millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars to Epstein. Black has said the payments were

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<v Speaker 1>for legitimate financial advice, and that he was completely unaware

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<v Speaker 1>of misconduct by Epstein, who, in emails released earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>year by the Department of Justice, sometimes referred to Black

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<v Speaker 1>as mister big. Well, that's funny because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Black is mister big, but mister big dickhead. Apollo

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<v Speaker 1>announced in January of twenty twenty one that an internal

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<v Speaker 1>review by the Decker LLP law firm, which Apollo's board

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<v Speaker 1>commissioned to investigate Black's previous professional relationship with Epstein, found

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<v Speaker 1>Black's payments to Ebstein were four bonafid financial services. Oh god, okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>we believe that the whole investigation should be over. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>was just a big mistake, sorry, mister Leon Black. The

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<v Speaker 1>report found that there was no evidence that Black was

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<v Speaker 1>involved in Epstein's criminal activities, and that review has since

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<v Speaker 1>faced scrutiny, however, including by Senator Wyden, who's claimed to

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<v Speaker 1>staff uncovered evidence that money paid by Black to Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>was used to finance Epstein's sex trafficking operation. Black's lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>called Widen's attacks on the decorate report completely baseless. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>not baseless. Sorry, that report is garbage and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire idea behind that report was to whitewash what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Leon Black. That's all that report was,

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<v Speaker 1>and it did a pretty good job. Right, they're still

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it like that report means something like that

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<v Speaker 1>report is important when it's not. What's really important is

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<v Speaker 1>what Leon Black was up to. What's really important is

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<v Speaker 1>that he lied about Jeffrey Epstein, and he lied about

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<v Speaker 1>that relationship for years. That's what's important. So considering all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, why exactly should I be giving Leon Black

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the doubt. In her legal complaint, Do

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<v Speaker 1>alleged that Epstein told her that Black was a special friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and that because she was Epstein's special girl, he had

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<v Speaker 1>chosen to give her to Black the same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>massage treatment that she gave to him. Do understood. According

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<v Speaker 1>to her legal complaint, this meant that she was expected

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<v Speaker 1>to strip naked and have sex. But when Doe and

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<v Speaker 1>Black went up to a third floor massage room, she

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<v Speaker 1>alleged in the complaint, Black threw her down on the

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<v Speaker 1>massage table and then abused her vaginally and anally with

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<v Speaker 1>sex toys. He then bit her regina, she alleged, cause

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<v Speaker 1>him bleeding and extreme pain. Reflectively, The complaint says Dough

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<v Speaker 1>kicked him, and in response to the complaint, alleges he

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<v Speaker 1>became enraged then raped her. Do alleged in her complaint

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<v Speaker 1>that the internal abrasion she suffered from the alleged attack

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<v Speaker 1>that day continued to cause her pain more than twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years later. The complaint described Dough as having autism. While

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<v Speaker 1>she has an above average IQ, the complaint alleges her

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<v Speaker 1>neural divergence makes her extremely trusting. That is just beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the pill. Imagine going after a young girl who has autism.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of monster does something like that? Oh, that's right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit, that's who. In a subsequent

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<v Speaker 1>amended complaint filed by Doe's en lawyer Jean Christiansen, claims

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<v Speaker 1>about the alleged assault by Black remained substantially the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Some key details about how Doe said she met Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>and was trafficked by both Maxwell and Epstein changed significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>According to a later court order, The Guardian has not

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<v Speaker 1>relying on false allegations and made up stories in other cases.

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<v Speaker 1>When Doe filed the suit against Black, Whigdor had already

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<v Speaker 1>nine and a half million dollars by Black. The other lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 1>filed by a woman named Sherry Pearson, who alleged that

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<v Speaker 1>Black and raped her at Epstein's townhouse, was discontinued with

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<v Speaker 1>prejudice and without cost to any party. As against the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Black has said he never met Pearson. Black slawyers have

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<v Speaker 1>said the allegations by both women have no merit. Even

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<v Speaker 1>as she pursued a civil lawsuit against Black, Doe was

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<v Speaker 1>involved in another legal case in the Southern District of

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<v Speaker 1>that he was accused of before his twenty nineteen suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty two, a class of Epstein victims sued

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<v Speaker 1>JP Morgan Chase, alleging that the bank had violated anti

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's sex trafficking operation. The victims were represented by Bradley Edwards,

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<v Speaker 1>the Florida plaintiff's lawyer who has represented hundreds of Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>victims and is famous for helping to expose the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight Sweetheart non prosecution agreement that shielded Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>for years. Doesn't make him infallible, and it certainly doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>put him above criticism or approach right. The JP Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>class action lawsuit, which was overseen by Judge Rakoff, settled

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<v Speaker 1>for two hundred and ninety million dollars in June of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three without an admission of liability. Though JP

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan said it regretted its association with Epstein, It included

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<v Speaker 1>physical and emotional injuries. A Claims administrator was appointed to

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<v Speaker 1>oversee the fund. Edwards firm Edwards Henderson, together with co

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<v Speaker 1>council Boy Schiller, were paid eighty seven million dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>their work representing Epstein victims in the JP Morgan class

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<v Speaker 1>action lawsuit eighty seven Excuse me not eighty three? Eighty

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<v Speaker 1>Quite the bag. In late October twenty twenty three, Dough

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million dollars. It was a moment of

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<v Speaker 1>elation for Doe, her adoptive mother told The Guardian, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the first time she felt that her trauma

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<v Speaker 1>was being recognized. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>right here, and in the next episode, we're gonna pick

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<v Speaker 1>up where we left off. All the information that goes

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>where he left off with the article from The Guardian

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<v Speaker 1>that was authored by Johanna Berkman about Leon Black and

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<v Speaker 1>the accusations made against him. Judge Raykoff approved the claims

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<v Speaker 1>administrators proposed allocations on January fifth, twenty twenty four, including

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<v Speaker 1>the allocation for Dough, but he said he intended to

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<v Speaker 1>exercise an oversight role to ensure the allocation of class

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<v Speaker 1>funds was fair and reasonable. The oversight role would be

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<v Speaker 1>ex partey, he said, meaning that each side of any

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<v Speaker 1>conflict could make their case to the judge without the

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<v Speaker 1>other side being aware of it. It was an unusual

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<v Speaker 1>move for Raykoff. The judge, who had been called a

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<v Speaker 1>true judicial Maverick, has spoken publicly about the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>transparency in the justice system. Everything needs to be public,

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<v Speaker 1>the judge told The New York Times in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine. The legitimacy of our court comes from the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they reason openly on the record based on

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<v Speaker 1>the facts, unless, of course, that includes Jeffrey Epstein right

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<v Speaker 1>or his friends, then it has to be done behind

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<v Speaker 1>closed doors, right, Judge Rakoff in January twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>within days of Dough finding out about the two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half million dollar allocation, her whigdoor lawyer, who was

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<v Speaker 1>participating in a mediation with Black's Council involving another client's case,

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<v Speaker 1>disclosed that Doe had been allocated a major award in

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<v Speaker 1>the JP Morgan settlement. According to a chronology of events

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<v Speaker 1>described in a twenty twenty six court order, what happened

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<v Speaker 1>next would be later characterized by Doe's then lawyer as

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<v Speaker 1>a violation of confidentiality. Black's counsel, Susan Estrich, contacted Judge

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<v Speaker 1>Raykoff on Black's behalf. Must be nice to have those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lawyers, huh, that can reach out from behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes and talk to a judge when he's not

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<v Speaker 1>on the bench. That is so unacceptable to me that

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<v Speaker 1>our don't even know how to describe it. The judge

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be impartial and there most certainly shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>any behind the scenes negotiating or deal making. But unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Rakoff, like the rest of them, they say one

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<v Speaker 1>thing and they do another. On February twenty first, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, private and undocketed letter to Raycoff, Estrich claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that Dough was perpetrating serious fraud on the court and

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<v Speaker 1>was not a real Epstein victim. According to a court

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<v Speaker 1>order that subsequently described strich letter. According to someone familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the matter, Estrich, who was not representing a party

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<v Speaker 1>in the JP Morgan case, acknowledged in the letter that

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out to Judge Rakoff was unorthodox. Yeah, no, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>not something that happens ever, But here we are. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and his buddies, all the

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<v Speaker 1>rules go out the window. Estrich declined to comment on

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<v Speaker 1>questions by The Guardian about the exchange. In the letter.

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<v Speaker 1>Estrich as dray Coff to open an inquiry into Doe

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<v Speaker 1>and the allocation, according to a person familiar with the matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and said she had reason to believe that the court

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<v Speaker 1>appointed Class Council, Brad Edwards and other lawyers would have

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<v Speaker 1>directly relevant information to bear on the issues. So it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like all these lawyers got together conspired to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that Jane Doe didn't get any money, And the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the judge was playing ball with this is

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and it does make me wonder what kind of evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>if any, they had to back that claim up. Estrich

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<v Speaker 1>letters succeeded Raycoff and Edwards, representing Class Council, agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>take a closer look at those claims, court record show.

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<v Speaker 1>Legal experts consulted by the Guardian said an intervention such

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<v Speaker 1>as the one made by estrich On. Black's behalf raised

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<v Speaker 1>questions because such outside legal interventions in a proceeding are

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<v Speaker 1>quite limited. She has no interest to be involved in that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that Raykoff let it occur is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that Raykoff should have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with anything that has to do with Epstein moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't be trusted. Somebody who has an interest in

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of litigation may not intervene in some other

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<v Speaker 1>disputable party against whom he is opposed just because he

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<v Speaker 1>would like to do them damage. In that case, That's

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<v Speaker 1>not how the system works. You litigate your own cases,

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<v Speaker 1>said sam is a car Off, a professor of constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>law at New York University who's a leading scholar on

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<v Speaker 1>class action lawsuits. Yeah, nothing about that seems right to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm certainly not some leading scholar. But all the

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<v Speaker 1>backroom deal making, all the shenanigans that we've seen time

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<v Speaker 1>and time again when it comes to Epstein and his friends,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with it. Everything needs to be fully transparent,

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<v Speaker 1>everything in deary. If a lawyer for a defendant who's

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<v Speaker 1>accused of rape writes to a judge and a class

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<v Speaker 1>action in which that alleged victim has been given a claim.

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<v Speaker 1>It could even be seen as a way of harassing

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<v Speaker 1>them and calling their testimony into repute. He added, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed if it's malintentioned, and the line between what's

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<v Speaker 1>allowed and what's malintentioned is a very difficult one. I

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<v Speaker 1>put the blame on Judge Rakoff. He could have stopped it,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't. I wonder why, what did he have to gain?

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of relationship does he have with Leon Black.

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<v Speaker 1>The Guardian reached out to Judge Rakoff for comment. His

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<v Speaker 1>law clerk said in an emailed statement, it's a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of record that the great majority of Epstein related proceedings

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<v Speaker 1>before Judge Rakoff have been sealed at the express request

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<v Speaker 1>of the various council for Epstein's victims in order to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the victim's identifying information, and that all parties have

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<v Speaker 1>at all times consented to this ceiling. Beyond this, Judge

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<v Speaker 1>Rakoff is prohibited by law from responding to your questions

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<v Speaker 1>as they relay directly or indirectly to an ongoing proceeding

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<v Speaker 1>before Judge Clark. So he can't respond, but he can

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<v Speaker 1>get involved. His case can be moved by what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the other case. I don't like that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if that's how the system set up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and it shouldn't be the case. On August second,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, this reporter, preparing to publish an article

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<v Speaker 1>in another publication, reached out to Leon Black, spokesperson with Clay,

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<v Speaker 1>with a list of questions about financial and sexual allegations

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<v Speaker 1>related to Black's ties to Epstein. The email included one

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<v Speaker 1>question about the lawsuit that Doe had filed against Black

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<v Speaker 1>a week earlier. Two days later, Black's team emailed a response,

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<v Speaker 1>including a statement from Mester Rich, Black's lawyer about those case,

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<v Speaker 1>predicting it would be promptly dismissed. Yeah, Well, it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to be confident if you know the judge is going

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<v Speaker 1>to play ball, right, makes it a lot easier to

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<v Speaker 1>be confident. Later that same morning, this reporter got an

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<v Speaker 1>unexpected call on her mobile phone from a number she

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<v Speaker 1>did not recognize. The caller introduced himself as Brad Edwards,

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<v Speaker 1>class counsel in the Epstein victims lawsuit against JP Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>which had settled for two hundred and ninety million one

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<v Speaker 1>month earlier. As class counsel. Edwards said he had been

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<v Speaker 1>access to hundreds of thousands of documents. When a particular

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<v Speaker 1>contemporaneous record of the call, people would call up with

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<v Speaker 1>Not one piece of Doe's story could ever be corroborated,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of what she says just definitely could

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<v Speaker 1>not have ever happened, Edwards said. He said he knew

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<v Speaker 1>Dough was alleging she had met Black through Epstein, so

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<v Speaker 1>in order for the Leon part to be true, the

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<v Speaker 1>trafficking to Jeffrey Epstein would have to be true, Edward said.

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<v Speaker 1>He said the timeline of those claims can't make sense

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<v Speaker 1>for many reasons, but when pressed for details, he said

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<v Speaker 1>he could not say any more because it would expose

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<v Speaker 1>other clients. After making these comments, Edwards said he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>his remarks to be off the record, meaning they should

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<v Speaker 1>not be published. Well that's not very good, is it again?

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<v Speaker 1>Transparency' brad for you too. That goes for everybody. If

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get to the bottom of this. We

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<v Speaker 1>need honest players on both sides, and unfortunately, this case

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people that are just trying to benefit

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<v Speaker 1>and it all comes at the expense of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who were abused. But according to principles widely followed by journalists,

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<v Speaker 1>a reporter and the source must agree information is off

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<v Speaker 1>the record before the information is shared, not after. This

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<v Speaker 1>reporter had not agreed that comments Edwards made about Dough

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<v Speaker 1>were off the record and they shouldn't be put your

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<v Speaker 1>name behind shit, Brad Edwards, it would later emerge, appear

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<v Speaker 1>to have other dealings with blacks lawyers months before that

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<v Speaker 1>phone call. The New York Times reported in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three that Edwards, in his capacity as an attorney for

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein victims, attended a multi day mediation between Black's council

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<v Speaker 1>and lawyers representing the US Virgin Islands, which concluded with

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<v Speaker 1>Black agreeing to pay sixty two and a half million

416
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<v Speaker 1>dollars settlement to the US Virgin Islands in January twenty

417
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty three in order for Black to be released from

418
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<v Speaker 1>any potential claims related to local authorities investigation of Epstein'

419
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>sex trafficking in the territory. So basically, you just show

420
00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:25.279
<v Speaker 1>up with a big fat bag and you're like, hey,

421
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>get my name out of this and I'll give you

422
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:32.079
<v Speaker 1>seventy million. What sort of reality are we living in

423
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>where that's acceptable? None of it's acceptable, None of it.

424
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:39.599
<v Speaker 1>The New York Times noted at the time that the settlement,

425
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>which had come to light in response to a public

426
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>records request by the newspaper, showed the extent to which Black,

427
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>once a Wall Street Titan, had gone to limit scrutiny

428
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of his decades long social and business ties to Epstein.

429
00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Edwards declined to comment at the time, and Black said

430
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the settlement was meant to resolve any potential claims that

431
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:02.799
<v Speaker 1>had arisen out of the unintended consequences of payments he

432
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:08.759
<v Speaker 1>made to Epstein for legitimate financial advisory services. Now, who

433
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is buying any of that? Talk about things

434
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 1>that never happened. Six months after Edward's surprise call to

435
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the reporter, a court order in Doe's lawsuit against Black

436
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>would later show Edwards and his colleague Brittany Henderson sent

437
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a sealed letter to Judge Raykoff as part of an

438
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>inquiry that had been launched into Doe's claims. The February

439
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, twenty twenty four, letter described Doe's account as

440
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>inconsistent and said that there were doubts she was a

441
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 1>veritable victim of Epstein and disassociates. I mean, not for nothing,

442
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>but hou's that up to Brad Edwards and Britney Henderson.

443
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't that be up to the court. The whole thing

444
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>seems weird and contrived, and frankly, I don't like any

445
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>of it. Days later, on March first, twenty twenty four,

446
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the then lawyer for Doe, Jean Christiansen of Wigdor, sent

447
00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>her own life to Judge Rakoff, criticizing the intervention by

448
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Black's lawyers in the JP. Morgan case and accusing class

449
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 1>counsel Edwards and Henderson of acting improperly. According to a

450
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>later court order, describing the chronology of events, like is

451
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it Creed? What is it like? I honestly don't understand

452
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>why would somebody do what Brad Edwards and Britney Henderson

453
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 1>are alleged to do, unless, of course, they wanted to

454
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 1>get more money for their own payout and considering that

455
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.559
<v Speaker 1>the survivors themselves really didn't benefit nowhere near as much

456
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>as the lawyers. I have my doubts about the whole thing.

457
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Christiansen also disclosed a new potential bombshell. Dough had kept

458
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>journals from ages sixteen to nineteen that the lawyer alleged

459
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:49.759
<v Speaker 1>documented her abuse. The journals had been kept in a

460
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>storage unit belonging to those adoptive family. She claimed the

461
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 1>journals were school notebooks. There was one for each year

462
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>from ages sixteen to nineteen, beginning on her birthday, and

463
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>each had a similar format. They had a scrap book

464
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like fuel in that they contained magazine clippings and sonograms

465
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 1>from her pregnancies. According to court filings, the text of

466
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 1>her journals was written in gelpen in a simple two

467
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 1>line zigzag code, meant the disguise at first the hand

468
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 1>account of the violence allegedly perpetrated on her by Black, Epstein,

469
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Maxwell and others. According to court records, one entry states,

470
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>mister Black is so important for some reason over my health.

471
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>There is going to be held to pay. I ruined

472
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 1>their trip and I am dramatic when that fat fuck

473
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>bit me. He threw me on the floor and blood

474
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>all over Jeffrey's carpet and on the issue like for

475
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.039
<v Speaker 1>real and again, look, I don't know what's true and

476
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 1>what's not, folks. I'm not going to sit here and

477
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.279
<v Speaker 1>tell you I know for sure, but I think every

478
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>single allegation made against Jeffrey Epstein and his people, especially

479
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>at this point, needs to be looked at and looked

480
00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 1>at hard. Another entry contains a type copy of Sylvia

481
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Place poem stop Dead. Several lines are underlined, including fatso Millionaire.

482
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 1>The name Leon Black is handwritten next to the title,

483
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>arranged in a coded pattern. Excerpts of the journals are

484
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>included in those amended lawsuit, and were released by the

485
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice as part of the Epstein files earlier

486
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.359
<v Speaker 1>this year. And that was the entry that we read

487
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 1>earlier from the girl who had the diary. Obviously this

488
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was her. In a statement to The Guardian, Black's lawyers

489
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>said the Guardian was ignoring the outlandish nature of claims

490
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>in those journals, such as that she had been trafficked

491
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 1>to Epstein to fifty different men, including powerful politicians. On

492
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>March fifteenth, twenty twenty four, less than a month after

493
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Raykoff received Strich xparte letter he convened the first hearing

494
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 1>in the Jane Do inquiry. At the hearing for which

495
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Raykoff sealed the courtroom, Dough was on the stand and

496
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>cross examined by Edwards. Wow, Brad Edwards, what a terrible look.

497
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.599
<v Speaker 1>What an absolutely terrible look, mister big defender of the

498
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Epstein survivors out here working with Leon Black. I can't

499
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>discuss the substance of what she was asked, said Doe's

500
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 1>adoptive mother, who was present at the fifteen March hearing

501
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and was speaking publicly about it for the first time.

502
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 1>But Edward's questioning, she told the Guardian, was surreal. I

503
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>could not believe that this was happening. He questioned my

504
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>daughter in a way that was aggressive and invasive. I

505
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>was shocked by his tone, especially because he was there

506
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>as class council, which meant that he shouldn't have been

507
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>safeguarding her as a claimant, rather than subjecting her the

508
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.079
<v Speaker 1>hostile interrogation like you'd expect in a criminal proceeding. She said,

509
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 1>that is a terrible look for Brad Edwards. There's no

510
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>doubt about it. There's no reason that the class Council

511
00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>should be acting in this way in my opinion, Edward

512
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Words did not respond to The Guardian's questions about his

513
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 1>cross examination of Doe. Black's lawyers were barred from attending

514
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the hearing despite their objections. A court order filed publicly

515
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>in April of twenty twenty six by Judge Clark, who's

516
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 1>presiding over Doe's case against Black, disclosed some details about

517
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the private proceeding. It described those fifteen March testimony before

518
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Rakeoff as being at times far fetched. Among her claims,

519
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Dough had described how she had been the victim of

520
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 1>an impregnation game and forced to carry out pregnancies from

521
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.079
<v Speaker 1>men who sexually abused her. In a court order, Doe

522
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 1>is described as having testified that Epstein fathered four of

523
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.799
<v Speaker 1>her five children, though Doe's lawyer later said in a

524
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 1>court that Doe was only sharing what Epstein told her,

525
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 1>not a representation of the truth. So, look, there's no

526
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>doubt that it's mouddeled right one hundred percent. But we

527
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>need to have a fair accounting and we need to

528
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 1>have actors that are fair on the stage, and it

529
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 1>seems to me that that's not the case. A twenty

530
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.559
<v Speaker 1>nineteen article by the New York Times described how Epstein

531
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>told scientists and businessmen about his ambitions to use New

532
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Mexico ranch as a base where women would be inseminated

533
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>with his sperm and would give birth to his babies.

534
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Judge Racoff, the court order said, considered those journals to

535
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 1>be central in determining those credibility. Rakoff appointed an expert

536
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:32.039
<v Speaker 1>to assess the ink dating on those journals. The results

537
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:36.799
<v Speaker 1>were inconclusive. Rakeoff convened another hearing on July eighth, this

538
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 1>time by Zoom without either doez lawyer or Edward's president.

539
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>These conditions had been agreed to by both parties. The

540
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>judge presiding overdose lawsuit against Black later wrote in a

541
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>court order. Among the topics Raycoff asked Dough about was

542
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 1>a relationship with Maxwell and the frequency with which he

543
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.039
<v Speaker 1>was allegedly trafficked to Epstein while she was in high school.

544
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Just so the claimant understands, Raycoff said, according to an

545
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 1>excerpt from the hearings transcript, which is cited in a

546
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 1>separate legal order, all of us I feel have a

547
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>great deal of sympathy for you. You've had a very

548
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>harsh life, and our hearts go out to you, but

549
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>we're just going to screw you anyway. We're going to

550
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 1>make sure that your claim never makes it past where

551
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it should make it. The Dough inquiry culminated on July nineteenth,

552
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, with an extraordinary letter to Judge Rakoff

553
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>from both Estrich and fellow Black attorney Michael Karlinsky, who's

554
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 1>managing partner of the law firm Quinn Emmanuel. The letter,

555
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>which was obtained by The Guardian, contained within it a

556
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>personal emotional appeal from Black to Rakoff. Black's lawyers stated

557
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 1>in the letter that they were aware that Racoff intended

558
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 1>to issue his ruling on the Dull matter by July

559
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:52.279
<v Speaker 1>thirty first. Estrich and Karlinsky said they had learned from

560
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a colleague at the Paul White's law firm, which also

561
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.160
<v Speaker 1>represented Black, that Rakeoff had raised the question about whether

562
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Black reach a settlement with Doe. Well, that's what they

563
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 1>always want. They want a settlement. They don't want to

564
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 1>make this go forward, right, especially the court. If they

565
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 1>can get a settlement, that's what they want. It's not

566
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>clear to which Paul Wei's colleague. The lawyers were referring.

567
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Brad Karp, the one time cher of Paul Weiss was

568
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 1>a known associate of Judge Raykoff. The too reportedly had

569
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>dinner on a somewhat regular basis, according to a twenty

570
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>seventeen book, I'm sure there was no impropriety here with

571
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Judge Raykoff right right right. Karp resigned from the chairmanship

572
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of Paul Weiss in February in the wake of the

573
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 1>revelations of his personal dealings with Epstein. Karp did not

574
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 1>respond to The Guardian's request for comment. Black had no

575
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 1>interest in settling with Doe, the two lawyers, Estrich and

576
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Karlinsky wrote. They then shared an impassioned appeal from Black

577
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.599
<v Speaker 1>that they said the financier had asked them to convey

578
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to the judge. Both lawyers declined to comment on the

579
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 1>ju nineteenth letter. The idea of settling with Jane Doe,

580
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Douglas Wigdor and the Whig Door affirm is repellent to

581
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 1>every core of value I hold. Dear Black stated from childhood,

582
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>my father, a former Rabbi, taught me the importance of

583
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Shem tav Hebrew for a good name. Oh, give me

584
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 1>a break. They always rely on the religion right, Oh,

585
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 1>my charity, my religion. I don't give a fuck. You're

586
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 1>a depraved, demented person, buddy. I don't care if you're Jewish,

587
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you're Muslim, you're Christian, or you're from the Church of

588
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the Inflame Toe. I don't care. Those lawyers at the

589
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Whigdor Firm, Black said, had disregarded the truth and behaved

590
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>in a way I believe to be profoundly on ethical ways.

591
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Not since my father's death forty nine years ago have

592
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I felt so much pain and seen such heard inflicted

593
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>on those I love. I can't settle with Jane Doe

594
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.199
<v Speaker 1>and the Whigdor Affirm, not only because of the damage

595
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 1>their lives have cause, but more importantly, because I don't

596
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>know how I could look my children and grandchildren in

597
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the eyes and teach them the importance of m tav.

598
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll do the same thing that you did when you

599
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>paid out the sixty two million to the US Virgin Islands,

600
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>You fat fuck. Invoking his father's death in a letter

601
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>to Raykoff was a striking choice. Black's father, Eli Black,

602
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 1>had been a socially prominent New Yorker and as the

603
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 1>CEO of global company, the Chiquita Banana Importer United Brands,

604
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>but on February third, nineteen seventy five, Eli Black killed

605
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>himself by jumping out of the window of his forty

606
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>fourth floor office in the pan Am Building on Park Avenue.

607
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 1>After his death, it was revealed that he had authorized

608
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 1>two and a half million dollar bribe to the President

609
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of Honduras in a bid to get lower export taxes

610
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>on bananas. When United Brands was ultimately charged with criminal

611
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.519
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy on account of the scheme, Eli Black, according to

612
00:36:55.559 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 1>The New York Times, posthumously named as a co conspirator. Ah,

613
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.360
<v Speaker 1>poor daddy was a criminal. I'm such a victim because

614
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>my dad was a rich guy and he bonned a

615
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>bunch of people and then he took his life. Feel

616
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>sorry for me, No, I don't feel sorry for you,

617
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>not at all. While Black did not share that any

618
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>details of his father's death and it's aftermath and his

619
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>appeal to ray Coff, he did not need to. The

620
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>rising star federal prosecutor who charged United Brands was not

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<v Speaker 1>an other than a young Jed Raykoff. Judge Raykoff declined

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<v Speaker 1>to comment on questions about the personal message, as with

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<v Speaker 1>other documents he received during the Doe inquiry, Raykoff did

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<v Speaker 1>not enter the letter containing Black's personal appeal into the

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<v Speaker 1>JP Morgan class action publicly accessible docket. Lawyers and legal

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<v Speaker 1>experts told The Guardian that they found Raycoff's decision to

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<v Speaker 1>make his oversight role ex parte to be unusual. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course he didn't want it in public. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>and he knows the blowback, so he didn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that's public. And don't think for a

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<v Speaker 1>minute that these judges are our friends, that they care

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<v Speaker 1>about the people in general. They don't. They care about

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<v Speaker 1>their court room, They care about power, they care about precedent.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you think they care about you or me

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<v Speaker 1>or this young lady, you're crazy. They do not. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing that sets class action cases apart from other cases

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<v Speaker 1>is a level of transparency that's required, said Chris Seger,

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<v Speaker 1>a class action lawyer who is co lead counsel on

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<v Speaker 1>the class action lawsuit against the NFL. Everything you do

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<v Speaker 1>is out in the open. That's the whole idea, no sideals,

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<v Speaker 1>no secrets. Seeger said, So what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we doing this? Is anybody going to answer

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<v Speaker 1>Rakeoff rule to rescind those two and a half million

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<v Speaker 1>JP Morgan allocation in its entirety. On July thirty first,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, less than two weeks after receiving Black's

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<v Speaker 1>personal appeal, he also withdrew Doe from the US Virgin

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<v Speaker 1>Island's Mental Health Fund for Epstein's Survivors, a class of

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<v Speaker 1>which she is now officially no longer a member, all

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<v Speaker 1>because Judge Rakoff got a letter from Leon Black about

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<v Speaker 1>his dad. For Doe, it was a crushing blow, her

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<v Speaker 1>adopted mother told The Guardian, as Doe would recount nearly

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<v Speaker 1>one year later in a Steel Court declaration in her

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<v Speaker 1>claim against Black. Black's letter to Rakoff was accepted without

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<v Speaker 1>notice to me and was apparently considered prior to a

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<v Speaker 1>final ruling, despite raising emotionally laden arguments about Black's character

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<v Speaker 1>and suffering. Meanwhile, I was never permitted to submit a

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<v Speaker 1>narrative impact statement or a rebuttal. She also had serious

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<v Speaker 1>concerns about inappropriate influence and access, saying she had no

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent means of communicating with the court that defendants team

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<v Speaker 1>had such access. Under scores, systemic and balance at plagued

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<v Speaker 1>these proceedings, She wrote, and that's true one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt that if you're going up again it's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Black, it's going to be a tilted deck.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Rakoff declined to comment. The sealed declaration, which was

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<v Speaker 1>seen by the Guardian, also hit back against some of

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<v Speaker 1>the claims Doe said were made by Brad Edwards, though

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<v Speaker 1>claim for example, that Edwards had asserted that no other

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<v Speaker 1>victims had recognized Doe, even though Doe claimed he had

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<v Speaker 1>only consulted two individuals. Those said Edwards had also dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>physical evidence that supported her connection to Epstein, including photographs

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<v Speaker 1>from Martha's Vineyard, by stating Epstein had not been to

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<v Speaker 1>Martha's vineyard. In fact, Doe said there's evidence Epstein spent

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<v Speaker 1>time on the island, which has subsequently been reported by

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<v Speaker 1>ITV News and The New York Times. Edwards did not

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<v Speaker 1>respond to The Guardian's questions about those claims. Dough pushed

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<v Speaker 1>back too, against claims that have been submitted to the

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<v Speaker 1>court about her by an investigator working for Black's legal team,

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<v Speaker 1>such as the claim that she had a personality disorder,

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<v Speaker 1>not autism, and that are biological. Family said that Doe

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<v Speaker 1>had a history of making up alternate realities those own records,

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<v Speaker 1>a person familiar with the matter said, showed she was

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<v Speaker 1>legally adopted as an adult in the state of Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>for good cause. Medical documentation, which the source said was

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<v Speaker 1>submitted to the court, confirmed her autism diagnosis and post

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic stress disorder stemming from long term sexual abuse. The

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<v Speaker 1>medical record also states Dough has no history of personality

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<v Speaker 1>disorder or psychosis. The source said, so it can't be both.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's telling the truth, That's the real question. Dough was

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<v Speaker 1>urged by her attorney to appeal Rakeoff's decision to rescind

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<v Speaker 1>her two and a half million dollar reward, according to

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<v Speaker 1>a sealed declaration that she filed. But on August twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, just three weeks after Rakeoff rescinded Doe's allocation,

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<v Speaker 1>Rakeoff signed off on a stipulation between Doe and the

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<v Speaker 1>JP Morgan Settlement Fund for Epstein's Survivors, granting Doe a

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand dollars settlement. According to a court filing

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<v Speaker 1>seen by the Guardian, this made her eligible once again

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<v Speaker 1>to participate in the usvii's Mental Health Fund. Please make

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<v Speaker 1>it make sense. If you're going to take her out,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you putting her back in but for a

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<v Speaker 1>reduced amount? Judge Raykoff did not respond to the Guardian's

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<v Speaker 1>questions about the August twenty twenty four settlement stipulation. He's

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<v Speaker 1>never going to respond. Last month, on April twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Clark, who was presiding Overdoe's lawsuit against Black, issued

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy six page ruling in response to Black's motion

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<v Speaker 1>for the case against him to be dismissed those former

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer Jean Christiansen of Whigdor and Doe had engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>serious sanctionable misconduct. Clark had found Christiansen had lied repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>to the Court and the opposing council about what was

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<v Speaker 1>happening with the JP Morgan Doe inquiry, and had also

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<v Speaker 1>directed Doe to destroy a relevant social media account that

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<v Speaker 1>dough had used to communicate publicly about her experience as

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<v Speaker 1>a purported Epstein victim. Clark also wrote that Doe had

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<v Speaker 1>falsified three sonogram images out of a total of eleven

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<v Speaker 1>that had been included in those journals, So eight of

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<v Speaker 1>the eleven were real, three of them were falsified. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need more information about that too. Whigdor withdrew his

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<v Speaker 1>counsel for Doe days after disavowing three of the sonograms.

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<v Speaker 1>Doe is now representing herself in the proceeding. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna end well, I mean, is that really the case.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no lawyer out there that's going to step up

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<v Speaker 1>pro bono and help this lady out. What a world

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<v Speaker 1>Estrich Black's attorney said in a statement to the Guardian.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that matters is that a federal judge found,

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact that Jean Christensen, the Whigdor

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<v Speaker 1>law firm, and Jane Doe lied. They're being punished by

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<v Speaker 1>the federal court. Nothing they say has any credibility. They

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<v Speaker 1>are liars and should be completely ignored. How about we

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<v Speaker 1>leave that up to a jury. How about that. While

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<v Speaker 1>the order was widely seen in press reports as a

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<v Speaker 1>serious rebuke of Doe and her legal team, Judge Clark

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<v Speaker 1>said the misconduct need not doom Doo's case and the

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<v Speaker 1>case will proceed. Christiansen, the attorney at Wigdor, did not

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<v Speaker 1>respond to the Guardian's questions. Douglas Wigdoor, the law firm's

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<v Speaker 1>founding partner, said in a press statement in response to

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<v Speaker 1>the order, while we are upset about the sanction or

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<v Speaker 1>pleased that our former client will get our day in court.

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<v Speaker 1>In a letter submitted to Judge Clark this week that

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<v Speaker 1>reference the sanctions, lawyers for Whigdoor and Christensen asked for

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<v Speaker 1>permission to file under a seal emotion for reconsideration. Wigdor

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<v Speaker 1>also recently filed a separate lawsuit against Black, claiming he's

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<v Speaker 1>deployed multiple frivolous and malicious lawsuits as retaliation for representing accusers.

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<v Speaker 1>His lawyers rejected the claims, of course they did, Leon

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<v Speaker 1>Black would never do that right. In her statement to

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<v Speaker 1>The Guardian, Doe said that she began her case as

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<v Speaker 1>an effort to seek accountability, but she believes her lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>has become something much broader. It's become about what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when a system meant to provide justice instead becomes another

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<v Speaker 1>source of harm. I faced retaliation, misrepresentation, public scrutiny, and

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<v Speaker 1>repeated efforts to undermine my credibility. I've been left to

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<v Speaker 1>navigate the process alone, with limited time, limited resources, and

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming personal cost. She wrote. There were moments when I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know if I could continue, but I made

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<v Speaker 1>a promise to myself that I would not stop. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know all the details right, not down to

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<v Speaker 1>the granular specs, but it seems to me that them

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out to Judge Rakoff was completely and wholly unacceptable

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<v Speaker 1>and inappropriate. So it's going to be interesting how this

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<v Speaker 1>all plays out, because remember, Janey is still going forward

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<v Speaker 1>with her suit. The sanctions might have hit, but the

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<v Speaker 1>judge didn't throw it out, So this one is just

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<v Speaker 1>warming up. So we're gonna keep an eye on it

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see how it progresses, and when we have

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<v Speaker 1>some more information, won't worry or the other. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>it added to the catalog. All the information that goes

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<v Speaker 1>with this episode can be found in the description box
