WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:03.799 Your summer pocket knife of information. 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:05.919 It's the only way to stay in for him. Fifty 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.439 five KARC the talk Station. 4 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:14.960 TATO five fifty five KRCD Talk Station Rin Thomas swissing 5 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:17.000 everyone a happy Friday, and I hope you have some 6 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:19.839 great plans going on this week. A bit of a 7 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.120 sommer note. Bring Sarah Herringer, a bit Sarah Heringer back 8 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.160 into the studio. And I'm sure everybody in my listening 9 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:28.079 audience is familiar with the name. She is a widow 10 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:30.480 thanks to a guy named Mordecai Black who cut off 11 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:32.600 his ankle monitor. He was out on parole. He was 12 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.960 out wandering about for months, no indication that law enforcement 13 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.520 had any idea at all that he had cut off 14 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:42.880 his ankle monitor. And he broke into their home, Patrick 15 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:45.359 Herringer and Sarah Herringer's home and over the rhine where 16 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:49.280 they have had a business, and stabbed Patrick Herringer to 17 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:51.960 death right in front of his wife Sarah, and Patrick 18 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:54.679 died saving his wife's life. Sarah Herringer, the widow, is 19 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.039 in studio to talk about what she's trying to do, 20 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:59.000 and that's bring about some sanity here in the state 21 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:02.719 of Ohio. Like real time monitoring of ankle monitors. Sarah, 22 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.200 it's good to have you back in the studio. 23 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:05.400 Thanks, it's good to be here. 24 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:07.079 I wish you didn't have to be famous for the 25 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.319 reasons you are famous now, but I'm glad to see 26 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:12.920 that you're spreading the word and knowledge and information is 27 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:15.599 really powerful. I had a caller earlier in the program 28 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:18.799 who suggested, you know, oh, we have these ankle monitor 29 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:22.000 programs because it just all makes us feel like something's 30 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:25.560 being done. Well, he's got an ankle monitor, and naturally 31 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:28.280 the authorities are monitoring it, and he's defined. He's confined 32 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.519 to a certain place, like the confines of his home 33 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.799 and maybe the place where he works, that's all. And 34 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:35.640 if he goes out of those areas, some alarm are 35 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.200 going to go off somewhere. Law enforcement's going to be notified, 36 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:39.560 and they're going to go after him and try to 37 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:41.439 pick him up. That makes sense, and that's what we 38 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:43.200 are led to believe. This is how the system works, 39 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:43.560 is it not? 40 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:46.959 Absolutely? I mean, I am one of the people who 41 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:50.319 found out that ankle monitors do not monitor in real time, 42 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:55.040 and that currently when you disable one, it also doesn't 43 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.120 trigger any kind of alarm. 44 00:01:57.799 --> 00:01:59.719 That in and of itself is hard to believe. 45 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:03.040 Yes, as soon as I found out, I likened it 46 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:05.760 to Jurassic Park when the fences go off, and I 47 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:09.719 was like, okay, and the I mean, the thing is is, 48 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:13.479 obviously we do not know that. The people who put 49 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:17.159 ankle monitors on know that. And the unfortunate thing is 50 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.240 all of the criminals, the felons wearing the ankle monitors 51 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:23.599 are the ones who know that they don't work in 52 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:24.520 track in real time. 53 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.479 So you anticipated my next question, is this word gotten 54 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:28.479 out already? Oh? 55 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.280 Yeah, I mean everyone knows that. I mean, they all 56 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:36.919 know that. And it's another example of where optics over 57 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:41.159 true outcomes. It's like, what's the entire what's the purpose? 58 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:43.680 Why would you put an ankle monitor on to begin 59 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:45.000 with if it's that ineffective? 60 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.199 Well exactly, And you know, I considering your case and 61 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:51.439 what we all now are aware of thanks to you 62 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.520 bringing this to everybody's attention, they're not monitoring them, and 63 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:57.560 the powers that be are aware that that's knowing not 64 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.039 going on. One of the defendants in that you'll I 65 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:03.319 beat down was in front of a judge yesterday and 66 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:04.759 told that she had to be where she had to 67 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:06.800 wear an ankle monitor. He lowered her bond from two 68 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.039 hundred thousand dollars down to twenty five thousand dollars to 69 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:11.599 ten percent twenty five hundred dollars bond, but she has 70 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:14.719 to wear an electronic monitoring device. And Fox nineteen reported 71 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:17.240 that the judge warned her attorney that if she tampered 72 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:19.919 with her ankle monitor in any way, she would provoke 73 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.120 her bond and she'd be locked up in jener until 74 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:25.159 the case went to trial. Well that's fine, that's all 75 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:30.319 well and good, but the judge also knows that tampering 76 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:32.560 with an ankle monitor or removing it is not going 77 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:33.960 to result in alarm going off. 78 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:36.960 Correct, So it's just a threat that they put out 79 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:40.639 there in order to do their due diligence. Hey, there 80 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.879 are consequences if you do that, but there has to 81 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.960 be the thing has to be effective in order for 82 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.319 it to work outside. I mean, at this point, we 83 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:51.639 already know that these are people who don't follow the 84 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:53.599 law and don't do what they're told. 85 00:03:54.319 --> 00:04:02.680 Yes, yes, demonstrably. So this sad thing. And I've expressed 86 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.800 outright anger over finding this out again as a consequence 87 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:09.039 of your work since learned that. Back in twenty twenty two, 88 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.439 the Ohio House passed by a ninety two to one 89 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:18.720 vote a requirement that real time monitoring of ankle bracelets. Yes, 90 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:23.160 it was passed. No, I mean bipartisanship doesn't exist anymore. 91 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:23.399 Here. 92 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.079 You have something that almost one hundredercent passed and it 93 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.639 went over to the Senate committee and it died there. 94 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.800 Yes, yeah, we uh, Cindy Abrams, she's looking into that 95 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.319 because it's why did it die there, you know, and 96 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:41.800 asking the individuals that are named and listed, what was 97 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:45.800 the point of that? But it's it is it's enraging 98 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.279 to find out that there is an entire group of 99 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.879 lawmakers that have all decided. And this entire thing came 100 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:54.519 about because of the Reagan Tooks case, which I don't 101 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:57.959 know if you're familiar with, well you wrote about it, yeah, yeah, and. 102 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.160 Ryan's Goldsby wore z ankle monitor the night he kidnapped, raped, 103 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:06.800 and murdered Reagan Toaks. This isn't from Serrenga's online letters. 104 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:09.040 She wrote about this. He didn't need to cut it off. 105 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.279 He knew no one was watching in real time his 106 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:15.240 GPS trails showed every move, but that was only reviewed 107 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:18.079 after she was shot dead after being raped and kidnapped. 108 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:21.240 Absolutely, they have it right there, it's right there. Yeah, 109 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:23.759 and her mother did so much work to get the 110 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.480 bill to or the act, you know, to that point 111 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.720 where it passes, the governor signs off on it, it 112 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:34.600 goes to the Senate committee and they just outright said no, 113 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:38.639 and then it doesn't go you know, to a larger 114 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:41.959 vote in order to be passed into law. And I 115 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:45.720 tell me why that would make sense on you know 116 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.519 what level? There's money available. 117 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:50.720 Well, there's money available, and there are literally lives at 118 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:54.480 stake here. I mean, you cited several different other illustrations 119 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.120 beyond your own personal experience and losing your husband because 120 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.639 of this, that it's happened before, and it may have 121 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:02.079 happened a whole bunch more than you even are aware of. 122 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:05.399 Yeah. That that is one thing I've been looking into, 123 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:09.560 and it's actually it's it's very hard to find information 124 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:13.879 of how many people have had ankle monitors on and 125 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:17.879 committed crimes or they've popped them, you know, they've disabled 126 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:21.480 them or removed them in some way, and they've created 127 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.240 they've reoffended Uh, that's information that I haven't really been 128 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.199 able to get a hold of yet. I think that 129 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.000 would be really great job for the media and investigating 130 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:35.000 journalism to maybe to start building this case and showing 131 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:39.639 people right there as the information comes out. It's it's 132 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:42.879 all things that we don't know, but we absolutely should 133 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:46.439 so we can get behind something and make it make 134 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:47.079 a change. 135 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.680 Well a change benefit's literally everyone, yes, anybody and lives. 136 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:52.560 Yeah. 137 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:56.399 Yeah, again, going back to your very profound point, it's 138 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:58.600 almost like stating the obvious, but it's worthy were repeating. 139 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:03.120 These people have already demonstrated they will not follow the law. 140 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.279 They have committed crimes which have brought them to prison 141 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.680 resulting in probation and ankle monitoring or placed on bond 142 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.120 for having committed a heinous crime. They have to be 143 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.120 held accountable. They've demonstrated that they don't care. 144 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:18.160 Right, Yes, I think another thing to look at too 145 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.680 is how many of them reoffend or continue to break parole. 146 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:25.199 When it comes to Mordecai Black, he'd spent nineteen of 147 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.120 his last twenty years incarcerated, and that was because every 148 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:32.720 time he was out he reoffended, oftentimes breaking the parole 149 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.800 that he was on. And that's also information that we 150 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.800 really should be taking into account, that judges should absolutely 151 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.360 be taking into account is how many times is this 152 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:44.360 person offended? 153 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:48.360 Without question? Yeah, and if they've demonstrated a willingness to 154 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:52.600 violate parole, then maybe you don't let them out right, Yes, 155 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:54.399 that's the justice system. 156 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:57.360 If you can't play nice, Yeah, then you can all 157 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:00.199 go play with each other in a place called prison. 158 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.879 Phrasing. I do like that, Sarah, Thank you for that 159 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.439 little bit of levity, at least as I interpreted it. Yes, 160 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.079 all right, so we will go ahead and name names, 161 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.720 considering we have the list of senators on the Senate 162 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:21.160 Judiciary Committee who let this thing die. Chairman Nathan H. Manning, 163 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:26.639 Republican Republican, Michelle Reynolds, Vice Chair, Louis Blessing, Republican, Republican, 164 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:32.840 Al Katrona, Republican Teresa Gavroni, Democrats Paula Hicks Hudson, and 165 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.360 Democrat Ken Smith. So you had a bipartisan group of 166 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.320 folks who let this thing die. It's not going to 167 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:38.120 happen again. 168 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:42.679 No, I cannot imagine it will. I'll be working with 169 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:46.279 Cindy Abrams and plan on addressing the Senate myself and 170 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.240 have them look me in the eye and tell me 171 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:49.759 that it is not worth passing. 172 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:51.879 I love that. And what we were talking about is 173 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.240 the Patrick Herringer Act, which will require everyone to be 174 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.840 real time monitored, and that's going to be addressed, I 175 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:01.320 guess in the fall session, and we will definitely see 176 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:03.279 that it gets passed. I know my morning show listeners 177 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:05.360 will be more than happy to contact their elected officials 178 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.720 to make it happen and not let it die in 179 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:10.159 the Senate. Let me ask out loud. But as we'll 180 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.399 move into a break, perhaps this has something to do 181 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:14.679 with money. Do we have enough money to do this? 182 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:16.279 Do we know what it's going to cost to hire 183 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:18.519 people to follow it? I think it's a worthy expenditure, 184 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:22.960 considering all of our lives are at least theoretically at stake. 185 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:26.120 Here ask Sarah. It's a fifteen right now. If you 186 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.120 I have k see the talk station, we'll be right back. 187 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:29.759 Fifty five KRC. 188 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:34.039 This is here's your channel. I first one and one 189 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:35.720 to forecast hot and you that get used to it 190 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:40.000 ninety to high with a heat index mid nineties overnight 191 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:43.159 clear seventy. Money must say sunny, hot and even Tomorrow, 192 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.679 ninety two feeling more like ninety eight overnight clear money 193 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.639 in seventy one, noticing a theme mostly sunny, hot and 194 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.279 human on Sunday as well. 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It's just spreading a real inspirational message 214 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.080 and hopefully we can draw some inspiration for my guest 215 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.679 in studio, the return of Sarah Herringer lost her husband 216 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.480 in that terrible, terrible stabbing in their apartment over the Rhine. 217 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.480 I'm going back to the Patrick Herringer Act, which ken 218 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:58.559 we're going to get past this fall. It would require 219 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:02.440 real time monitoring, actually, someone literally paying attention to folks 220 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:05.039 out there on ankle monitors so they can't cut them off, 221 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.759 so they can't, you know, wander around for months before 222 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:12.559 committing their next crime. Is this is and again the 223 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:16.720 idea that this was passed overwhelmingly in the Ohio House 224 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.240 only to die in the Senate committee. Do you know 225 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.000 whether this was a money issue, Sarah, I means like, no, 226 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:23.879 we can't do that. That's going to cost us'll have 227 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:25.120 a taxpayer too much money. 228 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.679 I would assume it had to come down to a 229 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:32.879 dollar amount. Why else would it be rejected when when 230 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.279 it comes to right kind of thing. 231 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.840 That's why I'm angry about it, I can't. I mean, 232 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.759 I'm trying to be Switzerland neutrality here and trying to 233 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.240 figure out what would stop this from happening, and you know, 234 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.360 one might say, well, we really don't have the technology 235 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.279 to do this real time, and I would throw a 236 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:49.440 BS flag on that. 237 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.919 You might do the technology exists, we do have it, 238 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.360 you know. And the other part of it too is 239 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.759 also the and part of the act is having the 240 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:06.320 the alerts go to the local police departments right and 241 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.840 have them notified. It's it's not even enough that it's like, well, 242 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.120 when when this happens, when the acle monitor you know, 243 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.840 the notification, where does it go, who's monitoring it, what 244 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:20.559 happens to it, who's responding, And there just needs to 245 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:25.120 be a faster and more you know, urgency behind the 246 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.080 apprehension of someone who's done this. 247 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:30.320 Yeah, how about like an Amber alert? Yeah, I mean, 248 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:32.320 if a child goes missing, you get an Amber alert 249 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.639 almost immediately as soon as the authorities are made aware. 250 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:38.639 They've got a central system that sends out the messages, right. 251 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:41.480 And about that, and they also they treat you know, 252 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:45.399 different felons differently. To my understanding, I've been speaking with 253 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:49.639 some of the local police officers here, and when it 254 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:56.120 comes to sex offenders, they get notified immediately for that, thankfully, thankfully, Yes, 255 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.799 And there can't just be you know, like this one's 256 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.960 worse than all of the others, so you know there 257 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.440 should be it's in it. But it shows again that 258 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:12.159 there is already a system and technology in place for 259 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:16.000 a certain type of criminal, for a certain type of alert. 260 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.759 So why wouldn't we just put that across the board 261 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:22.679 with anyone wearing an ankle monitor and also notify the 262 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.519 police for anyone who has gone a wall, and especially 263 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:30.120 violent criminals, not just ones who have created sex crimes. 264 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:34.039 And to the extent they want to prioritize their efforts 265 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:37.559 in rounding that person off. Well, it's a low level offender. 266 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.519 The person got, you know, busted for third offense stealing 267 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:44.159 sodas or something for a convenience store, was serving minor 268 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:46.159 amount of time, or was out on probation with an 269 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:50.519 ankle monitor over a non violent offense. We're not going 270 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:53.120 to prioritize our efforts to get that guy. But we 271 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:55.679 know he's out there because we got the alert, right, 272 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.240 it seems manageable. And then the child molester comes out, 273 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:00.440 All right, all man on deck, We're all gonna go 274 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.039 out and search for this pervert. Absolutely, that's the way 275 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.480 you manage that And the other thing is we have 276 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:08.879 geo fencing. I mean you can program your cell phone 277 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:11.919 and your your your dog ankle or your dog collar 278 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.159 that zaps them when they go past a certain area. 279 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.000 You don't need to put a line in the ground anymore. 280 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.440 You just allocate the plan based on GPS satellite images 281 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.879 and boom, you've got it. The dog gets to that area, 282 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.320 it's gonna get zapped. Same thing. Technology clearly works. 283 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:27.559 Yes, absolutely. 284 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:31.799 And you know what, going back to that money thing, 285 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.320 do the to close millions of dollars? I go back 286 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:36.600 to the we found six hundred million dollars to give 287 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:41.279 to the Cleveland Browns six million. I gotta imagine that 288 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.679 would cover most of the cost of this. I mean, 289 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:45.759 how much can it possibly cost to run this kind 290 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:46.240 of system. 291 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:48.879 Well that that's the other thing that Cindy Abrams were 292 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:53.080 looking into. She when she introduced this bill the first time, 293 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:57.399 there was and that's the thing where she's looking to 294 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:02.759 see what happened. There is money for it. There is, 295 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:06.039 there is, and it's not you know the person that's like, oh, 296 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.919 like yeah, you know, some of the complaints have been 297 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.799 how much more taxes? You know, how is this going 298 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.519 to raise taxes. How much would this I'm already paying 299 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:17.279 so much And it's like, no, you don't need to 300 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:20.240 pay any more taxes than you're already paying. We need 301 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:25.879 to reallocate these things towards programs that have transparency and 302 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:29.600 proven success and not just keep taking that money and 303 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:34.600 dumping them into organizations that are designed to manage poverty 304 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:37.639 and crime. Therefore they don't actually fix them because their 305 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:38.600 jobs would go away. 306 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.960 Oh and that isn't that a problem here in the system. 307 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.639 There's so many non governmental organizations out there doing work 308 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.960 in the community, and they have their hand in the 309 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:51.799 taxpayer cookie jar. They do get paid, and they do 310 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:56.360 promise to do some good that's been defined which qualify 311 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.080 them to get some of the taxpayer dollars. But does 312 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:01.200 anyone follow up and really try, truly do an analysis 313 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:02.720 to find out if the work that they claim they're 314 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:03.720 doing is actually. 315 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:06.840 It's actually effective. And in Cincinnati the answer is no. 316 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.399 And in our own hometown, where we have that type 317 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:13.679 of system, that type of government funds being put into 318 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:19.159 these NGOs, to date, there is not They are not 319 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:23.840 showing true metrics of success, mostly because they haven't defined them. Yeah, 320 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:29.480 you know, yes, very convenient to decide or see whether 321 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.039 something that they're putting money towards works or not. So 322 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:35.759 it does. I think with all of that it has 323 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:40.799 to come from a total reorganization, from reallocation of funds. 324 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:44.879 But we need the leadership to really be transparent with 325 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.240 what our money is being spent on anyway, line by line, 326 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.360 where is it going, metrics of success, and then the 327 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:54.799 money just really needs to go to a program such 328 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:59.320 as a real time ankle monitoring notification working with local 329 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:03.360 law enforcement. Man, that's something that's that's effective. 330 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.000 And you can make a great argument for that, demonstrably 331 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:09.920 effective just on a theoretical level that we're talking here. 332 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:13.079 You ask the question, can this be accomplished? Do we 333 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:14.880 have the technology to do it? Of course we do. 334 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.640 Can we make this happen? Well, of course we can. 335 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:21.880 This is not sort of conceptually beyond the pale, some 336 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.119 sort of brand new thing that you're thinking up out 337 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.519 a whole clack. I mean, I'm sure there's real time 338 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.720 monitoring somewhere out in the world, some other county or. 339 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.039 Community, probably other states within Yeah. 340 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:33.920 We could just follow their lead. The work's already done. 341 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.559 Don't reactly well, just do what they did more with 342 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.200 Sarah Herringer. It's eight twenty five right now. 343 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.000 If you have KCD talk station, this is fifty five 344 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.680 karc an iHeartRadio station. 345 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.880 Jenedi first only one whole ks two day hot, human sunny, 346 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.799 ninety's gonna feel like ninety five overnight clear and seventy. 347 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.440 Tomorrow it's gonna be humid too, mostly sunny hot and 348 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:57.680 NEUMANO R ninety two is gonna feel like ninety eight overnight, 349 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.519 muggy and seventy one, and on Sunday ninety three is 350 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.440 gonna feel like one hundred. 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They are business owners in the community that 370 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:57.759 lived there for I guess you told me eight years, 371 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.079 Sarah hears, yeah, eight year and you moved out. 372 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.119 Up yes, yeah, no longer there. 373 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:04.279 Yeah, you sucked it up as long as you could 374 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:06.200 and over the Rhine. Now you've heard. May I have 375 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:08.559 to have perwol in the wake of this ridiculous and 376 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.279 horrific violence that we witnessed a few weeks ago, and 377 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:16.279 with the beat down, I think everyone kind of generally 378 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:18.559 understands when you say what the beatdown was, which event 379 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.039 we're referring to. But the mayor and other council members 380 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.920 and the city manager, and I guess, to some extent, 381 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:27.680 although not as much, Police Chief Thigi coming out saying, 382 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:31.200 oh no, Cincinnati's safe, don't believe your eyes. Don't believe 383 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:33.440 what you see on the video. Cincinnati's a safe place, 384 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.519 they claim the crime is down. Now, you lived in 385 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.200 over the Rhine, one of the hotspots. It's been repeatedly 386 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:43.000 identified for criminal activity regularly. I'm not just picking on 387 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:46.440 Over the Rhine, but you actually lived there. So living 388 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:49.319 there for eight solid years, what was your experience? I mean, 389 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:54.319 and your husband was killed what June sixth? 390 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:55.079 Fourth? 391 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:58.599 June fourth, So in the eight years preceding June fourth, 392 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:01.200 when you finally said you've had enough for obvious reasons, 393 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:02.039 what was it like day. 394 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.319 To day there? We always played the gun or the game? 395 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:07.400 Is that gunshots or fireworks? 396 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:12.079 Oh? You know, I remember my days in Chicago. Yeah, 397 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:14.519 it's gonna play out in our alleyway. 398 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.440 Yeah, you're like, is that construction? Fireworks? Gunshot? 399 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:19.880 Cars don't backfire anymore? 400 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.960 You can go ahead exactly. And uh yeah, I mean 401 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:27.359