Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2: In the break, I was listening to President Trump holding
Speaker 2: I guess you'd say an Oval Office news conference. He
Speaker 2: he's still got a giant poster next to him with
Speaker 2: the Southern United States and the Gulf of America printed
Speaker 2: on the golf Anyway, I don't know why that's still there,
Speaker 2: other than he's very proud of that move. He did
Speaker 2: double down on the push for more balanced trade. He
Speaker 2: ordered today that agencies should investigate plans for new reciprocal
Speaker 2: tariffs that could boost America's revenue.
Speaker 3: There is a chance it could ignite.
Speaker 2: A global trade war, of course, but stocks went up
Speaker 2: after the announcement. Traders brushed off the two hotter than
Speaker 2: expected inflation reports, and in fact, we have seen the
Speaker 2: Dow Jones Industrial Average jump significantly since the announcement. The
Speaker 2: Dow is up three hundred and fifty point points right now,
Speaker 2: both the NASDAC and the S and P five hundred
Speaker 2: are up just about a percentage point. As this All
Speaker 2: of this is being played into the trading reciprocal tariffs
Speaker 2: was one of the things that Trump talked about during
Speaker 2: the campaign. He wants to even the score with these
Speaker 2: foreign nations that would place taxes on American goods and
Speaker 2: solve what he says are unfair trade practices. They're not
Speaker 2: in effect yet, and as we saw with what happened
Speaker 2: Mexico and Canada and the tariffs that were threatened with
Speaker 2: those countries.
Speaker 3: This is a negotiating tactic.
Speaker 2: This is the first salvo and we'll see how it
Speaker 2: goes before they do get put into place. So that
Speaker 2: question answer session still going on right now in the
Speaker 2: Oval Office.
Speaker 3: What else is going on? Time for what's happening?
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, just about every corner of the state
Speaker 2: of California is getting rain today because of the storm
Speaker 2: that is moving in here in La County, San Bernardino
Speaker 2: river side, Orange County, San Diego County. We're expecting the
Speaker 2: hardest rains to come in later this afternoon into this evening.
Speaker 2: National Weather Service had a pretty wide window when we
Speaker 2: first got up this morning, they said somewhere between two
Speaker 2: and ten. Now they're saying they've closed that window just
Speaker 2: a little bit and just said that between four and
Speaker 2: nine o'clock in La County. That's when we expect to
Speaker 2: see the heaviest rains come down. There are evacuation warnings
Speaker 2: in all of the burn areas that we've seen, not
Speaker 2: just in the last couple of weeks, but burn areas
Speaker 2: that go back as far as two years in some cases,
Speaker 2: because the potential for this rain to come down that fast,
Speaker 2: that heavy. So this is going to be a pretty touchy,
Speaker 2: touchy afternoon. Speaking of the fires, a report in the
Speaker 2: La Times indicates that they may have been so cal
Speaker 2: Edison's attempt to cut off power that started the Eaton fire.
Speaker 3: Now, Edison had been warned.
Speaker 2: They'd been warned years ago about the risk that a
Speaker 2: power shutdown would actually overload other transmission lines and then
Speaker 2: cause potentially dangerous overheating and sparks. According to public records,
Speaker 2: fixes that some experts would have said mitigated the fire
Speaker 2: risk were repeatedly delayed. The record show the scheduled work
Speaker 2: was never completed. Of course, the Eaton fire began January seventh,
Speaker 2: and at this point Edison has not taken responsibility for it.
Speaker 2: They say they're still doing investigation to figure out if
Speaker 2: their power lines were responsible for sparking the fire, but
Speaker 2: it did spark near an area that does have Edison
Speaker 2: transmission lines. Ours is not the only bad weather. A
Speaker 2: winter storm has left tornado damage along the Gulf Coast,
Speaker 2: piles of snow and the planes in the Midwest, residents
Speaker 2: now preparing for a new storm moving in through the weekend.
Speaker 2: The latest storm dropped about eleven inches of snow in Iowa,
Speaker 2: ten inches in Illinois, another seven and a half inches
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Down on the southern end of the storm,
Speaker 2: at least two tornadoes reported in all Obama and Mississippi,
Speaker 2: and they saw gusts nearing about sixty miles an hour.
Speaker 3: We saw the F eighteen, it was an eaaighteaen.
Speaker 2: But the F eighteen that went down in near San
Speaker 2: Diego yesterday, two crew members are fine. An aircraft carrier
Speaker 2: was involved in a collision with a cargo ship last night.
Speaker 2: This one is back in the Mediterranean, but the USS
Speaker 2: Harry Truman collided with a merchant vessel in the Mediterranean.
Speaker 2: See no reports of any injuries to any Navy personnel.
Speaker 2: The carrier was never really in danger, but they said
Speaker 2: it collided with the Besictas M just before midnight off
Speaker 2: the coast of Port said no reports of flooding or
Speaker 2: injuries on the USS Truman. The Navy said the ship's
Speaker 2: propulsion plants, some of which are nuclear, they said they're safe,
Speaker 2: They're in a stable condition. They still don't know what
Speaker 2: caused it. They don't know the circumstances of the collision,
Speaker 2: who might have been at fault in all of that.
Speaker 2: We talked at the beginning about ten tariffs right the
Speaker 2: beginning of this break about what's going on with Terraffs
Speaker 2: and the Brewers Association, a trade group that represents small
Speaker 2: breweries in California, is warning that the twenty five percent
Speaker 2: tariff that Trump is imposing on steel and aluminum imports
Speaker 2: could hit the craft brewery industry. Brewers need steel for
Speaker 2: their equipment. Obviously, the giant brewing tanks are steel. They
Speaker 2: also need the aluminum for their cans, and a lot
Speaker 2: of these smaller breweries don't have very big profit margins.
Speaker 2: According to this trade group, the Brewers Association, they're going
Speaker 2: to get a direct hit from these tariffs and many
Speaker 2: of them might not stay in business because they simply can't.
Speaker 2: First of all, the pandemic caused a lot of them
Speaker 2: to close, and those that survived ran into supply chain issues.
Speaker 2: They weren't able to get the gear that they needed,
Speaker 2: so rising prices for a bunch of those materials have
Speaker 2: been a problem for a while now. With these tariffs,
Speaker 2: those brewers that were able to survive are not going
Speaker 2: to be able to withstand the terraffs. They say, between
Speaker 2: a rock and a hard place. They can't pass the
Speaker 2: high costs under their customers because the customers will just
Speaker 2: go buy cheap, crappy beer somewhere else.
Speaker 3: I mean the cheaper beer. It's not the small beer anyway,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Closing arguments expected in the asap Rocky Hollywood a gun
Speaker 2: assault trial today. The rap artist turned fashion mogul faces
Speaker 2: a couple of felony counts of assault with the semi
Speaker 2: automatic firearm two confrontations on the night of November sixth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one with a former buddy of his, asap
Speaker 2: Relly Terrell Ephron. Their friendship soured over the years because
Speaker 2: asap Rocky started taking off. Turn of events that culminated
Speaker 2: in this encounter and charges against asap Rocky. His longtime
Speaker 2: partner is Rihanna. She showed up at court that made
Speaker 2: some headlines. That was kind of that was interesting. Remember
Speaker 2: that time, Remember that time that Aaron Rodgers caught a
Speaker 2: pass that he threw. There was a moment. He's one
Speaker 2: of the one of the NFL quarterbacks. Is that there's
Speaker 2: a handful of them who have I had to throw
Speaker 2: a pass, it got blocked. They caught it and made
Speaker 2: it turn it into a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Rogers in trouble. It's gonna get there. They turned thirty
Speaker 3: two yesterday. There's a half a finish, tidy interview. Then
Speaker 3: the inside.
Speaker 1: For the wind.
Speaker 2: Richard Rogers for the left off touchdown O came in
Speaker 2: for the Packers. That was Rogers to Rodgers, but it
Speaker 2: was Aaron Rodgers to Richard Rodgers. It turns out Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers will not be playing for the Jets next season.
Speaker 2: Four time MVP, fifth player in NFL history to throw
Speaker 2: five hundred touchdown passes in the regular season, has one
Speaker 2: year of non guaranteed money left on his contract with
Speaker 2: the Jets, and they told him last week, you will
Speaker 2: not be playing in New York anymore.
Speaker 3: Would you like your Jeopardy question? Let's do our jeopardy question.
Speaker 2: But first I wanted to play this because somebody actually
Speaker 2: had an interesting question then, Hi, Gary.
Speaker 4: And Shannon, this is Michelle. I love your show. I
Speaker 4: love the Laby question for you. Or if I would
Speaker 4: ask if you'd be willing to go head to head
Speaker 4: with Bill Handle doing the jeopardy because I think both
Speaker 4: of you guys are very knowledgeable. But I'd wonder who
Speaker 4: would come out on top. That would be awesome of
Speaker 4: first Jeopardy Jeopardy show on the K.
Speaker 2: He's got some pretty bizarre, weird knowledge that I've never
Speaker 2: had in my life. So I don't know about the.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll take that chance. All right?
Speaker 3: So roses for four hundred roses. The natural defense mechanism
Speaker 3: of the rose are commonly called this tea word, though
Speaker 3: they are technically prickled. That's a really easy question, Cale,
Speaker 3: I do what the calendar tells me. What is thorn?
Speaker 2: Thorn's yes, all right, tea word. That's kind of that
Speaker 2: that throws people because it's a th h word is
Speaker 2: the way they think of it. Thorn is the word.
Speaker 2: You know what else has thorns? That I found out
Speaker 2: just the other day, Boginvilia, how do you say that?
Speaker 3: Bogan? Bog and villa is beautiful, beautiful flew.
Speaker 2: Beautiful vining flower plant that comes up. I found out
Speaker 2: that it has thorns.
Speaker 3: Does I know? I found out the hard way? Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: did you get hurt?
Speaker 2: I did get hurt buggers? My wife said, of course,
Speaker 2: of course it has swords. It's Bogan v However, you say, I.
Speaker 3: Think it's Bougainvillia.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to correct her when I get home.
Speaker 2: Jedra says, it's Bougainvillaya whatever it is. Never mind, all right,
Speaker 2: coming back, we know we have a lot of work
Speaker 2: to do when it comes to rebuilding from the Eating fire,
Speaker 2: from the Palisades fire. What can we learn from other
Speaker 2: recent fires that devastated certain areas of our country.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Think of the devastating fires that we've seen in the
Speaker 2: last several years, say six seven years. The Tubs fire
Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen up in Sonoma County, Lake County,
Speaker 2: Mendocino County, and the campfire in Paradise up in Butte County,
Speaker 2: and then the fires on Maui.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: All of these are similar, at least in their scope
Speaker 2: to the Palisades and Eaten fires, in that we've got
Speaker 2: thousands of homes, dozens of deaths, and the rebuilding process
Speaker 2: that faces not just those people who lost their homes,
Speaker 2: but I mean the entire community, all of La County
Speaker 2: is going to be impacted by this rebuilding process as
Speaker 2: it comes. And there've been a couple of different I
Speaker 2: don't want to use the word autopsy because it makes
Speaker 2: it sound a little dire, but in lessons perhaps that
Speaker 2: we can learn from the campfire in Paradise, the Tubs
Speaker 2: fire in the North Bay area, and the Maui fire
Speaker 2: in terms of how La County might be able to rebuild.
Speaker 2: And I think some of the most important lessons are
Speaker 2: not just for the people involved. It's for the politicians.
Speaker 2: It's for those people who work at the county level,
Speaker 2: or the city level, maybe even the state level. Of
Speaker 2: here are the roadblocks that need to be taken out
Speaker 2: of people's way. If you want to live by your
Speaker 2: priority you have said, the rebuilding of the community, the
Speaker 2: maintenance of the culture of that community is so important.
Speaker 3: There are things that you have to do.
Speaker 2: You politicians have to do to get out of the
Speaker 2: damn way to allow them to have these things done.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that I saw just is
Speaker 2: my opinion, but of all the things that need to
Speaker 2: be redone in these communities, one example out of the
Speaker 2: Tubs fire in the Santa Rosa area is that you
Speaker 2: have to put a priority on rebuilding the schools. In
Speaker 2: the Tubs fire, they said that there were about eight
Speaker 2: hundred students, one hundred staff members, and two school board
Speaker 2: members that lost their homes in those fires, and the
Speaker 2: impact of the fire on the school community was far reaching.
Speaker 2: It may be slightly different in the Palisades area because
Speaker 2: the demographics are slightly different there are fewer kids there,
Speaker 2: but the damage to the schools is one of those
Speaker 2: things that needs to be ameliorated first. And the district
Speaker 2: itself up in Santa Rosa dispatched a bunch of councilors
Speaker 2: out there to parents and students. Some of them came
Speaker 2: from other parts of the state to lend a hand
Speaker 2: that as the councilors did, they stayed on campuses for weeks.
Speaker 2: One of the things they did was it showed the
Speaker 2: people in those neighborhoods in the Fountain Head neighborhood and
Speaker 2: other neighborhoods around Santa Rosa, that the schools themselves play
Speaker 2: a massive part in stabilizing a community. It's not just education,
Speaker 2: it's childcare, it's meals, it's the in person connections, not
Speaker 2: just for the kids, but for the parents seeing other
Speaker 2: parents from the neighborhood. The ten schools in the Santa
Speaker 2: Rosa fire were either destroyed or heavily damaged, and what
Speaker 2: they had to do was they had to relocate some
Speaker 2: of the kids to satellite campuses, kind of spread them
Speaker 2: out so that the other campuses could absorb some of
Speaker 2: the kids. But one of their main priorities was rebuilding
Speaker 2: or repairing the schools as soon as possible so that
Speaker 2: those kids had a place to go back to because
Speaker 2: a lot of these people, even though their homes weren't damaged,
Speaker 2: they didn't move that far away necessarily. And one of
Speaker 2: the great things that can help a kid recover from
Speaker 2: that is they get a chance to be around their
Speaker 2: friends once again. We come back, we'll talk more about
Speaker 2: one of the some of the things that politicians can
Speaker 2: do and prioritize that they've learned from not just the
Speaker 2: tubs fire, but also that Maui fire in August of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Gary and Shannon will continue. Oh, Debrah,
Speaker 2: have a quick message for you, and this is about
Speaker 2: the bogan va.
Speaker 3: From a nursery man. It's bogan via just for dead. Okay,
Speaker 3: now you got it. I really screw that one up.
Speaker 3: That's all right. Listen, you've had a rough fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: of the brain. I don't know, the weather is just
Speaker 3: messing up.
Speaker 2: Well, I have full confidence in you. You're gonna nail
Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, even if it does sound slightly familiar.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: The cabinet continues to flesh itself out. That's weird to
Speaker 2: say it that way. The Senate has confirmed and now
Speaker 2: he has been sworn in. RFK Junior is the new
Speaker 2: Secretary of Health and Human Services. Brooke Rollins was elected
Speaker 2: or i should say confirmed by the Senate votus seventy
Speaker 2: two to twenty eight. Brook Rollins will be your new
Speaker 2: Secretary of Agri Culture. Cash Battel made his way out
Speaker 2: of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He is advanced to the
Speaker 2: floor of the Senate for confirmation as FBI Director, and
Speaker 2: Lynda McMahon, President Trump's choice for Education Secretary, is made
Speaker 2: her way through the confirmation hearing as her nomination continues
Speaker 2: to move through the Senate. We're talking about recent fires
Speaker 2: in the state of California and Hawaii. The Tubs fire
Speaker 2: from October of twenty seventeen up in the Santa Rosa area,
Speaker 2: the Campfire November of twenty eighteen in Paradise, and then
Speaker 2: the Maui fires on the island of Maui in August
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three. And the things that we are
Speaker 2: going to be able to learn from those fires. And again,
Speaker 2: these are not necessarily lessons for the people whose homes
Speaker 2: were burned or if you've lost somebody that as a
Speaker 2: result of that fire. It's more for politicians and those
Speaker 2: people in charge of what will be the cleanup effort.
Speaker 2: And I mentioned one of the biggest issues is going
Speaker 2: to be schools, adding schools back up and running, because
Speaker 2: it's not just about the education for the kids, it
Speaker 2: becomes a meeting place for the neighborhood. One of the
Speaker 2: other issues is and this came from the Sheriff of
Speaker 2: Sonoma County at the time of the fire. He said,
Speaker 2: Calm is contagious, and so is the opposite, and even
Speaker 2: in the face of chaos, it's important to keep your head. Now,
Speaker 2: there has been some confusion. I'll point to the reopening
Speaker 2: of pch a couple of weekends ago, where Karen bas
Speaker 2: said that it was going to reopen, but then it wasn't,
Speaker 2: and then she changed the date, and then the National
Speaker 2: Guard came in and they were able to help out
Speaker 2: to free up some of the LAPD resources.
Speaker 3: That wasn't necessarily well.
Speaker 2: That was confusion, and that was something that's an issue
Speaker 2: that needs to be ironed out before you go public
Speaker 2: with that, because the calm is contagious, but so is
Speaker 2: the chaos if it turns out to be chaotic. We're
Speaker 2: in a position now where and they've seen it in
Speaker 2: all of these other fires. The d is over, the
Speaker 2: emergency itself is over, and we're on the verge of
Speaker 2: what will be a massive cleanup. I mean, the Tubs
Speaker 2: fire in Santa Rosa at the time was the largest
Speaker 2: wildfire cleanup in this history of the state and the
Speaker 2: largest disaster cleanup since the nineteen oh six earthquake in
Speaker 2: San Francisco. This one will eclipse that easily. The next
Speaker 2: phase gets murkier. The next phase is when things start
Speaker 2: to gum up. It's when the insurance payouts kind of
Speaker 2: dribble out. It's when the scammers and the price gougers
Speaker 2: promised these quick turnarounds. Local officials make decisions about what
Speaker 2: to rebuild first, and then everybody gets impatient and everybody
Speaker 2: thinks the process is not moving fast enough.
Speaker 3: When you think about just the.
Speaker 2: Removal of the debris from these burn sites, from these
Speaker 2: neighborhoods that went down, ninety percent of it is going
Speaker 2: to be gone very quickly.
Speaker 3: Ninety percent of it.
Speaker 2: The biggest stuff, the chimneys that are still standing that
Speaker 2: are going to have to be knocked down and removed,
Speaker 2: the big iron structures, whether it's a shed in the
Speaker 2: backyard or the dishwasher or the washing the big pieces
Speaker 2: can be moved relatively quickly, so ninety percent of it's
Speaker 2: gone right away. It's that other ten percent that literally
Speaker 2: has to be removed by hand in some cases. And then,
Speaker 2: like we said in a couple hours ago, the six
Speaker 2: inches of top soil to be removed to try to
Speaker 2: get most of the contaminants that they can, and that
Speaker 2: that's when the process really really slows down. Then comes
Speaker 2: the permitting. One of the things that Rick Caruso had
Speaker 2: said was he wants to implement AI as part of
Speaker 2: that permitting process to shrink it down from weeks and
Speaker 2: in cases months to hours, to make sure that some
Speaker 2: of these permits get where they need to be approved
Speaker 2: when they need to be so that people can begin
Speaker 2: the process of rebuilding. We've seen, if it's the Tubs Fire, campfire,
Speaker 2: or the malifires, we've seen the timeline for this, and
Speaker 2: they want to do better now. The Tubs fire in
Speaker 2: October of twenty seventeen, they were able to rebuild and
Speaker 2: get some homes back on those properties within about a year.
Speaker 2: I mean rebuilt within about a year, only a couple,
Speaker 2: but they know that that process can begin and get
Speaker 2: finished within a year. The rebuilding of the entire neighborhood
Speaker 2: took about five years. That was the Tub's fire up
Speaker 2: in Sonoma County. The campfire is going to be different,
Speaker 2: simply because of geography. There were eighteen thousand properties that
Speaker 2: were destroyed by that fire or damaged severely, and some
Speaker 2: people decided not to go back. The Mali fire very similar,
Speaker 2: thousands of properties and dealing. I mean, it's got its
Speaker 2: own sort of intricacies because it's an island in the
Speaker 2: middle of the Pacific, so getting stuff there is not
Speaker 2: as easy as.
Speaker 3: It would be, you know, to the Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 2: But the lessons of making sure that calm is contagious,
Speaker 2: making sure that you get out of the way when
Speaker 2: it comes to permitting for rebuilding, and putting an emphasis
Speaker 2: on things like schools and those other places that can
Speaker 2: define and become the anchors for those communities as they
Speaker 2: do the rebuilding process.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: The rain will be the top story through the day
Speaker 2: today and probably into tomorrow. Certain counties have already seen
Speaker 2: the majority of their heaviest rain. San Luis, Obispo and
Speaker 2: Santa Barbara Counties have been getting punched in the face
Speaker 2: in the last couple of hours. We saw a pretty
Speaker 2: good cell roll through Burbank here just a short time
Speaker 2: ago and make its way through, But the National Weather
Speaker 2: Services the heaviest for La County is expected between about
Speaker 2: four o'clock and nine o'clock this afternoon. A car attack
Speaker 2: in Munich injured at least twenty eight people, including kids. Today,
Speaker 2: German anti terrorism officials say an asylum seeker from Afghanistan
Speaker 2: was arrested for that attack. That is also the site
Speaker 2: of the Munich Security Conference starts tomorrow. Vice President j
Speaker 2: d Vance, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski, Secretary of State Marco
Speaker 2: Rubio are all expected to be there. Well, it's time
Speaker 2: for some fun stories when it comes to science, but
Speaker 2: I would say stream science.
Speaker 3: Strange saience. It's like weird science, but strange. I'm a
Speaker 3: big fan of I'm a big fan of naps.
Speaker 2: And if you've ever wondered about the best time to
Speaker 2: take a nap and you're a fan of this show,
Speaker 2: well I got great news for you. The best time
Speaker 2: to take a nap, acording to researchers, one forty two pm.
Speaker 2: So you listen to this show, maybe grab a little
Speaker 2: lunch afterwards, and then call it a day. This very
Speaker 2: specific time emerged from a new nationwide survey that looked
Speaker 2: at how we nap, what makes some people better nappers
Speaker 2: than others. It was done by the Green of the
Speaker 2: Avocado Mattress people, and they found that most people aim
Speaker 2: for about a fifty one minute nap, which means if
Speaker 2: you go to about a one forty two you wake
Speaker 2: up at two thirty three. The problem is, most sleep
Speaker 2: researchers say that that is too long of a nap.
Speaker 2: You nap too long, it's going to leave you feeling
Speaker 2: worse than before you close your eyes. The study found
Speaker 2: that NAP's lasting longer than an hour and twenty six minutes,
Speaker 2: that'd be about thirty five minutes past the perfect length
Speaker 2: enter what would the researchers would call the danger zone,
Speaker 2: because if you go about an hour and twenty six minutes,
Speaker 2: you start to feel groggy, you start to feel disoriented
Speaker 2: instead of refreshed, and if you're still asleep after that
Speaker 2: hour and forty four minutes, they said, that's no longer
Speaker 2: considered a nap. You've actually dripped it off into a
Speaker 2: full sleep session at that point, and that that could
Speaker 2: potentially be more detrimental than just a quick forty thirty
Speaker 2: or forty.
Speaker 3: Minute nap is what they say you should shoot for
Speaker 3: most days.
Speaker 2: There is a question about whether or not the human
Speaker 2: body could survive a trip to Mars. On March second,
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, Scott Kelly came back in a Soyuz spacecraft
Speaker 2: traveling at about seventeen thousand miles an hour, and as expected,
Speaker 2: it warmed up the heat shield so much that a
Speaker 2: bunch of molten pieces of the heat shield actually flew off.
Speaker 2: Now the deceleration amounted to about six g's on Scott
Speaker 2: Kelly and the cosmonauts that were also on board, Mikyle
Speaker 2: and Sergei, because of course they're named Mikyle and Sergei.
Speaker 3: The search and rescue team come in. They hoist him out.
Speaker 2: Scott Kelly gives him a thumbs up, and then they
Speaker 2: grimace as they lower him into a recliner because it's
Speaker 2: just sitting in the middle of nowhere. He lifted a
Speaker 2: satellite phone to his ear and makes his first call
Speaker 2: back on Earth. He'd spent more time in space than
Speaker 2: almost any other person, four missions each longer than the last,
Speaker 2: totaling five hundred and twenty days almost two years in space,
Speaker 2: and on this trip he had taken the longest spacelight
Speaker 2: of any space flight of any American. And he said
Speaker 2: as he flew longer, the symptoms of returning to Earth
Speaker 2: got worse, and after he got back home in Houston,
Speaker 2: he was nauseated. He was dizzy, his joints ached under
Speaker 2: the force of gravity. Simply sitting in a chair sometimes
Speaker 2: felt uncomfortable. And the idea of traveling in space is
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's not meant for human beings, but
Speaker 2: our body is not built for that sort of a thing.
Speaker 2: Scott Kelly has a twin brother. We know him as
Speaker 2: Mark Kelly, is the Arizona Senator before this mission. Both
Speaker 2: of these guys agreed to participate in what they said
Speaker 2: was a comparative study. Mark was going to stay on
Speaker 2: Earth the whole time. Scott was going to be on
Speaker 2: Earth and in space. Because they have the same DNA,
Speaker 2: it's a rare opportunity for them to figure out what
Speaker 2: would be the effects, even some psychological effects of long
Speaker 2: term space missions. So before they before Scott went up
Speaker 2: on the ISS, they do a bunch of twelve universities
Speaker 2: eighty researchers. They study them closely than perhaps any other
Speaker 2: humans in history, and could use, for example, the cognitive
Speaker 2: testing to show declines in Scott's mental speed and accuracy,
Speaker 2: the markers of inflammation, and his blood spiked to levels
Speaker 2: that lab tests had difficulty measuring, thousands of percent above
Speaker 2: normal suggested an extreme stress response to the space travel.
Speaker 2: Fewer than seven hundred people, most of them young fit,
Speaker 2: most of the male, have gone into space. And they
Speaker 2: said that the number of people going into space in
Speaker 2: the next couple of decades could grow exponentially because more
Speaker 2: and more governments, more and more companies SpaceX, Blue Origin,
Speaker 2: Virgin et cetera. Could propel people into space. But there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of peculiar effects of space travel that are
Speaker 2: now only being identified and investigated. For example, latent herpes
Speaker 2: infections get reactivated, Certain medications become less effective. Microgravity, which
Speaker 2: is the near weightlessness that you experience in space, redistributes
Speaker 2: blood to veins in the head and neck that aren't
Speaker 2: used to handling that flow. That increases the risk of
Speaker 2: a clot somewhere in your brain or neck. And Scott
Speaker 2: Kelly wrote a book, and in this book he said
Speaker 2: humans can explore more of the universe only if they
Speaker 2: strengthen the weakest links in the chain that makes spaceflight possible.
Speaker 2: The weakest links in the chain are the human body
Speaker 2: and the human mind. Right now, the record, by the way,
Speaker 2: for the longest time in space is held by a
Speaker 2: Russian cosmonaut a guy named Valerie Polyakov spent about fourteen
Speaker 2: months in low Earth orbit, relatively protected from the radiation
Speaker 2: and the communication lags. But only twenty four people have
Speaker 2: ever exited low Earth orbit, and that was more than
Speaker 2: fifty years ago for less than two weeks at a time.
Speaker 3: Because those guys, you know, they went to the Moon.
Speaker 2: There is a huge study now going on about whether
Speaker 2: or not the astronauts soon to be Martians at some
Speaker 2: point could withstand the six or seven month journey in
Speaker 2: space that it would take for them to get to Mars,
Speaker 2: and then once they get to Mars, when they come back,
Speaker 2: that's another six or seven months the other way. Is
Speaker 2: there a way to speed that up, they don't know.
Speaker 2: Is there a way to make it easier on the
Speaker 2: hum and body, They don't know. Scott Kelly's been telling
Speaker 2: the doctors about these mysterious medical issues that have come up,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't know why that's happened. More importantly, perhaps
Speaker 2: the people who are studying him don't know why they happened.
Speaker 2: There were changes in Scott Kelly's genetics because of the
Speaker 2: time he spent in space, about nine thousand genes, some
Speaker 2: of which might increase the risk of cancer and immune
Speaker 2: system problems have been altered. They didn't normalize for the
Speaker 2: most part over the course of a few months, but
Speaker 2: some continued to show signs of damage, including breaks and
Speaker 2: even inversions in their DNA. And that's just going into
Speaker 2: low Earth orbit. Imagine you go completely out of the
Speaker 2: gravitational pull of the Earth, make your way through space
Speaker 2: to Mars.
Speaker 3: They don't know if it's possible or not.
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