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Speaker 1: At the forefront when you first see it. Protest you

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dot com and their counterpart on Twitter is a place

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where you can find amazing videos like this well sort

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of pastor showing that he can walk on air. That's

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the work of Protestia dot com and it is also

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though the tip of what they do. They are an

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organization headed by a guy named David Morrel who joins

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us today, and if you read further down the line,

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he's a deeply theological man who has paid a price

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for speaking his mind, both as a National Guard member

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and as a citizen, and he's gladly paid that price.

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He joins us today with the courtesy of our YouTube channel,

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YouTube dot com slash at The Todd Herman Show ends

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under the great auspices of God Almighty, But Todd.

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Speaker 2: Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved by big pharma,

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technocourrats and tyrants everywhere from the hind mountains of Free America.

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Here's the Emeralds City Exit God her Man.

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Speaker 1: Today is to day the Lord has made, and these

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are the times to which God has decided we shall live.

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David Merril joins us live from Denver, Colorado, a city

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that has been Seattlezed David, appreciate you being here. Thank

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you man, thanks for having me on the show. Todd

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loved to see you. Yeah, good to see you. Love

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your hat, love what you're doing at protest to you

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dot com. Let's start real quick, just by groundsetting that

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you're a guy who's paid a cost for free speech.

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And I know the podcast family will appreciate this because

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people who are willing to pay these prices I think

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means something to us. So talk about what happened to

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you as a National Guard member.

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Speaker 3: Well so, and then first I should say that nothing

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I say represents the army or the Colorado National Guard.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, well I gotta say that.

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Speaker 3: You gotta put that out there, you know, I mean,

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they really require that, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty two, I was doing this, the

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Protestingest podcast actually with a pastor friend of mine, JD. Hall,

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and we talk politics and we talked because you know,

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it's very much from a Christian conservative perspective, but we

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talk politics and we talk the ins and outs of

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how to navigate you know, the modern modern times and

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modern situations as Christians who want to be civilly engaged,

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civically engaged, politically engaged, and I said some stuff on

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that podcast again off duty as a National Guardsman. We're

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on duty, then we're off duty, and I'm off duty

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and kind of irregular clothes like I am now probably

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wearing the same hat or something else, and I said

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some things that then somebody reported to the guard PAO

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and they decided to punish me. So they actually punished

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me militarily for the content, not not just that I

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said something, but the content of what I said, and

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accused me of being a racist in an official memorandum.

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Accused me of being racist. And it was because I

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said that I didn't see the evidence that George Floyd

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was targeted because of his race, not that he wasn't,

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but just that I didn't see the evidence.

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Speaker 1: I said, you didn't see the evidence.

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Speaker 4: Right, That's exactly what I said.

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Speaker 3: I I don't see the evidence George Floyd targeted because

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of his race. But the funny thing is Keith Ellison,

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who prosecuted Derek Chauvin, said the same thing. The extremely

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liberal prosecutor that put Derek Chauvin in prison didn't charge

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him with a hate crime because he didn't see the

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evidence that Floyd was targeted because of his race. I

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said the same thing. I got punished for it, and

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I wasn't even on duty. Has nothing to do with

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the military. So it's just kind of crazy times in

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terms of the free speech that we're living in. And

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for me, at least, my heart is to what can

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I do to help service members be able to not

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have this.

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Speaker 4: Happen to them.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm pretty old as far as military goes, but

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I'm thinking about the younger guy who can't afford to fight.

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Speaker 4: I can afford to fight.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I love that you think of it that way, and

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you did sue for your First Amendment rights right, didn't

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's in the Colorado of District Court as we speak.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's try this video again, this pastor walking

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on air, to see if you're convinced and perhaps you'll

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: This is from Protestia dot Com. That looks like the

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Brady Bunch set.

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Speaker 4: I thought, sooks good, go beautifully well shot.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, they spared no expense.

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Speaker 1: Like the Lord Jesus himself competer walk on water. Do

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you ever get people angry at you? Do you ever

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get the pastors or the impastors or pastor pastric Si.

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Speaker 4: Yes, usually not out in the open.

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Speaker 3: Usually it's a private message or something, or every once

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in a while we'll get a seasoned desist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, we just we ignore them where we put

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is a tip of the sphere way

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of reaching people and drawing attention. And you're a thinker theologically,

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and I want to talk through some of the more

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serious aspects of this. We'll go back and forth and

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play some of the videos because there's some pretty serious stuff.

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There's people like Andy Stanley and other folks who are

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misleading flocks and the false teachers. So we'll talk about

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this with David Moral. There is a disease in the

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world of supplements, and I've actually thought about starting a

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supplement line many many years ago. I had this idea

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basically for a vending machine in gyms. It would custom

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mix for you based upon your profile, the right amount

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of protein and creating put in some simple carbs, so

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it'd be like a pre workout shake. Versus a post

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workout shake. And I thought about how to do this,

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and I even went and consulted some people in the industry,

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and I came out with, well, you know what, that's

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super high end. Most people wouldn't pay for that because

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people are glad just to pick up a shake or

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this or that. Then I see guys, and I'm not

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here to criticize people. They're incredibly successful for whatever reason,

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and they've got their own supplements lines, and I'm just

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I'm going to tell you, no one is really coming

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out and into new wave proteins. This is almost always

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private labeled. They add some things to it so it

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can be an exclusive blend. There are a few companies

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and we're really blessed to work with a couple of them. Bioptimize.

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This has been around for all going in three decades

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for a reason. They actually have their own lab. They

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actually use their own products. Matt and Wade are the

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first test cases for all their products period. They're the

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founders and they're the co CEOs. Nothing comes out of

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their lab that they haven't themselves used. And here's how

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fanatical they are. They have a product called Mushroom Breakthrough

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and mushroom Breakthrough helps you with concentration, it it helps

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you with memory, it helps you with calmness recall. And

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how do they know this? Because Matt and Wade are

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lunatics in one very specific way, body hacking. They wouldn't

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had brain scans done. Then they discovered that they were

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losing memories, and okay, this makes sense our brains aging.

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people in the supputing industry will say, okay, name something

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mushroom and sell it. That wouldn't work for them. They

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went and did research on how to get six or

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seven sorts of mushrooms in this product. And when they

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did that, it turned out to do that at home,

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you'd need to eat about eighteen pounds of mushrooms in

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a day. Picture eighteen pounds of mushrooms. There's no chance

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you're gonna do that. So when they got it to

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a final blend, they tried it themselves. Their brain scans changed.

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Wade showed that in our program, his brain scan changed,

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his memory centers came back. And that's just one product.

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MAIG Means and Breakthrough is world famous for helping people

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sleep and regularity and They just reformulated it for it

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to be more absorbable. They never stop improving. So just

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go to Bixterormeasures dot com, slash Todd, look through the products,

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compare them with what you know your body needs. Subscribe

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to the products and you never run out. You never

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miss a product, and matt Way will give you exclusive discounts,

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They'll give you free gifts, and they'll also send you

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free information packs on how to optimize your biology, even

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when it doesn't relate to products they sell. Sometimes it's

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completely other companies bi Optimizers dot com, slash tood use

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promo code Todd. So David these the fact that you

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can fillprotest you dot com on such a regular basis

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with these astonishing videos of heretics causing theological mischief, I

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think you call it. That means to me that there

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is a plethora of this stuff available. If you were

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to guess in the churches in America, what percentage do

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you think are biblically sound? I mean, there's some data

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on this, but what do you think are biblically sound churches?

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about fifteen percent of youth pastors have a biblical worldview.

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so obviously Satans at work in this he wants to

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destroy christ Church. But talk about the politics and our

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civic duty and and your view of this and pastors

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Speaker 3: The challenge has always been in I mean, and I

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really in all all Christian churches, how how much should

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politics and uh civic engagement be directly preached from the pulpit?

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of God's Word, the whole council of the Bible, and

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they do it faithfully and they don't dodge and pick

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certain topics and not others depending on what the culture,

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you know, the current cultural zeitgeist is, usually have flocks

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Speaker 4: How do you navigate that within the church.

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Speaker 3: And now that the you know, as I like to say,

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the church by way of talking about culture and talking

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Speaker 1: So you're so close to this, closer than I am.

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was a shepherd for sale. And they had this great deal.

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bad decision and they hired the guy David I kid you,

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not his sermons always contain quotes from South Park, a

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given the way they treated the Lord Jesus every sermon.

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the church body was decimated and some people stayed, but

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of the Lord Jesus. Talk me through this. How many

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accountable for what's being taught, what's being promoted, what's being done.

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some that are they're self deceived. They really don't know.

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They actually think they're doing what's right. You know, Jesus

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talked about this in Matthew seven when he said that

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there will be those on the last day that say,

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Lord Lord, did we not do all these things in

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your name?

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Speaker 4: Did we not prophesy?

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Speaker 3: And basically they list all these great works and he says, yeah,

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depart from me. I never knew you. And then he

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defines it. He says, depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.

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is how you will know that you were not mine,

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that you are not preaching the true Christ. You are

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not teaching true doctrine. Is the works of lawlessness that

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are the evidence of that.

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Speaker 1: So this ruins us back. I think two, we're talking

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about Denver becoming sataalized and lawlessness, and again it's politics

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and faith meeting. I tend to believe that Satan runs

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his organization like a military outfit. Right, He's the supreme leader.

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He's got bosses of ten and bosses of hundreds, and

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there's no debate. Satan runs things, and I think he

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takes test runs, so I tend to believe he is

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right now prepping the world for the arrival of the

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lawless one, which to me brings us back to pastors

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on the pulpit. How do they approach this without making

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every single sermon a discussion of this bill or that bill,

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or this politician or that politician. I have my view,

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what's yours? If you get down to the actual act

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of standing in front of your congregation, how would you

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advise pastors to address things like the open lawlessness in Denver,

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letting you know, homeless people sees houses.

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Speaker 4: And et cetera.

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Speaker 3: It's they they need to not fear the culture. The

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word of God, the Bible speaks into every one of

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these issues, every one of There's there's no new sin

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under the sun, right, So while while we might feel

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like what we're going through is brand new, nobody's ever

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experienced this before. It's never happened. That's that's not true.

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And the Bible, which God very much designed to be

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for all of time, that an immovable truth speaks into

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all of it. So I always encourage pastors continue to

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preach the truth and be responsive.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can be responsive.

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Speaker 3: To what's going on in the lives of the congregation,

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and that that involves being being informed about what's going

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on out there and then preach the unapologetic Word of

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God into those circumstances. And the problem is pastors are

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very often afraid to do it for those reasons. They're

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they're going to offend somebody. And it's like, yeah, but

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you're you're a preacher of the Word of God. You're

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going to offend somebody.

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Speaker 4: That's it. It's going to offend a godless culture obviously.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think you know if you look at

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protesta dot com and Devenrol the publisher, there are people

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who are going to watch these pastors and they're going

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to be offended. On the behalf of Jesus christis other

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people who are offended that you're bringing light to this.

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This always astonishes me that people say things in public right,

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and they're in their bubble think in their bubble world,

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and then you simply popularize it, right, popularize it here

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you go, what do you want pastors to be doing

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in eldership, in church shepherding, Because you have a friend

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of us who wrote a book Shepherd's for sale how

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do church leadership bodies, and we're part of that body,

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as the members of a church, how do they look

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for signs that the church is being politicized or being

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made heretical.

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Speaker 3: It's it can be tough, it can be tough, but

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it's it's the Bible encourages every Christian. I mean, the

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responsibility to discipline the church is the responsibility of all believers.

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I mean, that's certainly what I believe, and I think

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that's that's what the Bible supports, and I think that

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that's what churches should do. But we have to remember

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that that pastors are not in an elevated status of

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spiritual authority. They are they're brothers among us, They're among

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the flock. You know, the Bible says, shepherd the flock

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among you, and so they they should be afforded the benefit.

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It really is a benefit of having the rest of

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the church around them watching their back. And we like

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as Christians, we need other Christians to watch our backs

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and tell us when we're doing something wrong and be

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willing to love us enough to challenge us. You know,

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a big part of the reason we challenge, you know,

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guys that we think are teaching falsely or people that

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are doing things in the name of Christ that are

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that are not biblical and are not Christian.

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Speaker 4: Is because we love them.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it seems like, well, if you love them,

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you wouldn't challenge them. But the Bible very much is

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in support of challenging, challenging people who you love. Yeah,

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it's an exercise of Christian love to watch our pastors

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back they need. I mean, pastors are out there kind

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of floating in the wind sometimes feeling like if I

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don't do the right thing from the pulpit.

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Speaker 4: Or I don't have the music of the right volume,

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or the carpet the right color or whatever I'm going

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to get, I'm going to get torched.

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Speaker 3: Right, These people are going to fire me, They're going

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to kick me out, and so it's very unstable. They

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need to know that if you're faithful to preach the Word,

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you're faithful to preach the full council of the Word

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into the culture, that there are other men and women

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in your church that love you and they have your

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back and they'll go to the map for you. It's

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really important that they know that they're not our employee,

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that they are our fellow believer and that we're they

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have our support.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Bible, man, I know, the Bible

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teaches us that we can learn to know the Good

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Shepherd's voice.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: The Lord Jesus said, my sheep know my voice. Right,

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I'm the good Shepherd. So when we spend time in

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his words on a consistent basis and around more mature Christians,

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people who have gone through a longer or maybe they're

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faster learners than their spiritual walks, everybody learns differently. We

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learned the voice of the Lord Jesus, the Good Shepherd.

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I think this is an ultimate defense when a church

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will start to fall. Let me give you some personal

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examples you can have in this society where Satan is

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just just abusing kids with gender confusion. You'll have a

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teenager who might come home and say, yeah, well, Mom,

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what do you know? You're a SIS woman. The first

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time you hear your teenagers say, you need to stop

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and say it. Wait, hold on a second, what does

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that mean? Sis? What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Explain?

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Speaker 1: And you know, but this means that your child has

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begun speaking the language of the enemy. So when our

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church fell, it was preceded by one of our pastors

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who began doing sermons about the earth. And I sat

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and listened to a sermon one day about the earth,

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and he sprinkled in some Jesus. You know, that's the

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here's my view. I want climate change legislation, Let's sprinkle

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some Jesus on top of that. And then a sermon

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that didn't contain a single word of God. And I did.

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What you're supposed to do is to go personally to

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the pastor and say, I'm pretty disturbed that was a

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political speech. You didn't contain the word of God at all.

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So are there signs like that that we can see

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in our churches that are their key words or key phrases,

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or is there a line of attack the enemies using

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those commonly to get pastors to spread lies.

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly it's you know, christ As Christians, we were

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kind of predisposed to try to be understanding, to try

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to hope all things, and to assume anything that's being

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you know, pushed in or or promoted.

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Speaker 4: In the name of Jesus.

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Speaker 3: We were we've kind of been trained to not to

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back off and not really judge that in the way

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that we should. And so the the these worldly ideologies,

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these ideologies that are not found in scripture, they're found

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outside of scripture, very often found in you know, long

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standing worldviews that oppose a biblical worldview. They sneak in

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on that basis. So we we when when a pastor

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is preaching from the Word of God, when they're actually

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taking the meaning of the text and teaching that we

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call that exo Jesus. They're explaining the meaning of the text.

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But what you're describing in in this situation was what

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we would call is of Jesus. They're reading outside meaning

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into the text, and it sounds like in this case

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it's just like, well, I'm going to say Jesus a

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few times and sort of try to christianize, right, Yeah,

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And so for the guy in the pews, it's basically

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be aware of these godless ideologies that are out there.

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Be aware of the godlessness of modern climate change ideology,

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the godlessness of modern gender ideology, the godlessness of modern

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race ideology, and in critical race theory, these kinds of things.

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Speaker 4: Be aware of what those are.

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Speaker 3: So that when you hear something that's being said being

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done in the name of Jesus or taught in the

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name of Jesus. But you recognize the content is not

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biblical and it actually matches with one of these other

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unbiblical ideologies, that's the time to do exactly what you

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did and question him and say you didn't get that

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from the Bible, Where did that come from?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I've been a proponed to the idea that the most

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powerful form of propaganda is something called the propaganda of silence.

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So if yes, no one discusses it, then how do

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you know it's happening. So this is used by the

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mockingbird media all the time, the propaganda of silence. Our

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media here is really loath to report on what Elon

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Musk did when he lit this flame in England by

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actually drawing attention back to this insane scandal of these

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gangs of Pakistani men going and sexually assaulting girls and

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grooming them and turning them out right, that he has

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lit this flightman, Now there's this outrage. The power of

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the mockingbird media here is to say, yeah, we're not

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going to talk about that. They did this with the

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lies of transgenderism. Oh that's not happening. There's no sex

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at in the schools. They just ignored it. I think

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it's harder to look at a church body and observe that, wait,

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we're not going to talk about the definition of marriage.

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We're not going to revisit this. I mean, this is

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a big deal abortion. The left tried to make that

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a huge election issue, and we're not going to talk

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about the sanctity of life. Do you think that's a

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harder challenge for people in the pews that they have

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to now observe the silence and then maybe go ask like, hey,

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why are we.

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Speaker 4: Silent on this? Yeah? Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: It is because again, I mean, you want to trust

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your pastor you want to trust the people that you

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believe God has placed in these positions. And so when

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they sin, and they will their men and you know,

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they're the regular guys when they sin or they air

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a lot of churches and the thing is you don't

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see it until it's too late. But a lot of

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churches let in the church members, let this go on,

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Let this go on and metastasize until it's too late,

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and now there's a church split or it's too late

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and now there's a sex scandal from the pulpit, and

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that entire time that man placed in that position was

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basically robbed of the benefits of having his fellow believers

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hold him accountable. He needed that, and a lot of

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churches deny it to him because it's it's hard work

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challenging somebody, especially somebody who who everybody else sees as

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as the leader and they and they are they're supposed

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to be leading within that congregation. Challenging that person sometimes

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comes with a significant cost. I mean, and a lot

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of us that have done this kind of work, I mean,

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we know we've paid that cost. Like our church is

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a Southern Baptist church, and I mean the Southern Baptist Convention,

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and the guys that run that won't pick up the

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phone for me, you know, like I'm I'm for son

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and on grata over there. But that's the price that

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sometimes has to be paid to be to be willing

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to challenge when it needs to happen, even though it's

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an exercise of love.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: And I've pointed this out that there's people who are

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not church going Christians, or maybe I would refer to

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as as cultural Christians or ethnic Christians. And my family

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is Christian, therefore I think I'm Christian. They won't necessarily

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know the name like JD. Greer, I mean Pastor Greer.

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I have some of his books at home, Win by Losing,

478
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and I actually think he has been God's worked through

479
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him phenomenally to grow that church and to make it

480
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a church that turns out disciples. So imagine my shock

481
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when I hear Pastor Greer saying, yeah, we should use

482
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the fake pronouns and we should respect that. And I

483
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know the answer spiritually, it is the deceiver, the distort

484
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or Satan himself who's causing this. But how did the

485
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Southern Baptist Convention, I mean, how did people there not

486
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notice that they were going so far off the rails

487
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in so many ways?

488
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Speaker 3: Well, in the Southern Baptist Convention, because it's not a

489
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denomination and churches are churches are autonomous, then kind of

490
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do what they want, but like to use JD.

491
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Speaker 4: Grew.

492
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Speaker 3: He's a pastor out in North Carolina, a big I

493
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mean megachurch, multi sit megachurch, recommended using preferred pronouns, and

494
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I for him, it's interesting because I don't think it

495
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was this church that really kind of got him back on,

496
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because he repented of that later, he.

497
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Speaker 4: Quit doing that later.

498
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Speaker 3: I think it was actually the the you know websites

499
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like hours and the Information Age and the Internet then

500
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exposed this and and and helped bring to bear just

501
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,279
common sense wisdom. You know, I'm basically saying, hey, you know,

502
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preferred pronouns are lying. You know, you're not permitted to

503
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bear false witness just to make somebody feel you be

504
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the first.

505
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Speaker 1: Person I've met actually repeats that to me, like, I

506
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can't lie. And I defended my pastory. He'd said about

507
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the injections, Well, look, if you're told to take him,

508
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:20,359
if to take him, and I had to say to

509
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,839
my pastor, no, I'm going to write you a piece

510
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on this. These are not vaccines.

511
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Speaker 4: This is a lie.

512
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to inject my body with a lie,

513
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just like the mask is a lie.

514
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Speaker 4: Right, I'm going to an even thing word doing.

515
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Speaker 3: I mean, Biblically speaking, we bodily autonomy is a biblically

516
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derived right for human beings.

517
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Speaker 4: You don't.

518
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Speaker 3: You don't have a right to tell me how to

519
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:46,119
stay healthy. That's actually a responsibility God gave to me,

520
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and the responsibility God gave to me for my family.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, super super well said, So, I want to get

522
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to the work of a guy named Andy Stanley. Here

523
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:57,799
at a second with David Morrel Moral and I want

524
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you to talk about some of the bigger person You

525
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:03,400
wrote a great piece and kind of reviewing a friend

526
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,640
of yours book Shepherd's for Sale, which is an important

527
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,799
book we should talk about. So in a second I

528
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:10,039
want to show people this and the Stanley video because

529
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:12,319
this is the fear of Oh gosh, we're gonna get

530
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:14,920
called bad names. And we'll continue this discussion with David.

531
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When you find out you wasted money something, how do

532
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,839
you feel like you purchase something and it's utter junk.

533
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,759
That drives me crazy because a lot of new products

534
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,000
are utter junk. Like I'll tell you something. There's no

535
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good washer or dryer that's digital. This is a fact.

536
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It can't be argued. And I'll tell you why I

537
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:35,039
say this, because no digital washer or dryer knows what

538
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clothes or stink and dry. You ever notice this. You

539
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pay all this money for this dryer, you put your

540
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clothes in there, and it stops because oh, we've decided

541
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it's dry. There's no setting for stop deciding things you're dry.

542
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:49,359
There's so many things like this. There's also just money

543
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that you may have wasted. You could go through if

544
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you go right now to your bathroom cabinet or wherever

545
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you keep your medications, pull down bottles of VIBERPROFI set

546
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them in front of you. What are they twenty nine

547
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bucks a pop? Nineteen bucks of pop. You're taking that

548
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stuff to fight inflammation because you've got joint pain, you

549
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got muscle pain. A lot of that is caused by

550
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poor circulation. A lot of that then causes you to

551
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move poorly. Therefore you end up with a lot of

552
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muscle problems. You can end up with muscles shrinking, becoming inactive.

553
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Then you move less than you get more inflammation. So

554
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take every one of those bottles and look at them

555
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and understand that not only is that money wasted, every

556
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single one of those bottles has caused more inflammation in

557
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your body. So here's some fixes for this. High levels

558
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of omega three is tons of water. Like I drink

559
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,599
about four hundred ounces of water a day, consistent exercise,

560
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,720
consistent stretching, and that may not be enough in my case.

561
00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:51,519
It's not, so I supplement with native path krill antarctic

562
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krill oil. Here's why I eat fish three times a day,

563
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usually salmon, I'm effectively a pescatarian that has a lot

564
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of Omega three in it, but it's not as absorbable

565
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as nativepathcrill. It is fifty percent fish, is fifty percent

566
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less absorbable than curl oil. It also comes from some

567
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not great waters. Native pathcrill comes from seventy three miles

568
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off the Antarctic coast, the cleanest waters in the world.

569
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Three sorts of Omega threes, and one study showed it

570
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reduced joint pain twenty eight percent in seven days. Another

571
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show that reduced blood clots sixty percent. And I'm not

572
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,319
going to tell you what to do other than I'm

573
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going to tell you what to do. Go invest in

574
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your health with Native pathcrill. Go to getcrill dot com

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slash todd. That's get krill dot com slash todd. See

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what sort of savings they have for you at getkrill

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dot com slash todd. David Moral, this is again from

578
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Protestia dot com and your corresponding Twitter channel. Pastor Andy

579
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:58,400
Stanley compares Christians calling Democrats evil to well, let's see

580
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if y'all can guess.

581
00:28:59,319 --> 00:28:59,799
Speaker 4: Here we go.

582
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,759
Speaker 5: Political affiliation has become the litmus test for orthodoxy. I

583
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:05,359
hope you haven't seen this, but let me just tell

584
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:07,279
you what I'm about to tell you is not kind

585
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,680
of off in a corner. This is main line speaking

586
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:13,720
and posting, and books are written in chapters and books

587
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:16,480
are written about this right now. The current thing for

588
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:18,880
the last three or four years is that you can't.

589
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I was going to put this on the screen, but

590
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,119
there are things I should never put on a screen

591
00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:26,759
to have a picture taken because anyway, so you know

592
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:28,880
what the messaging is now, this isn't in the corner.

593
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These are If I name the people who are saying

594
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these things, you've heard of most of them.

595
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,359
Speaker 1: You've read some of their books.

596
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:37,319
Speaker 5: That you can't be a Christian and be a Democrat.

597
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:42,799
You you can't possibly be a true Christian if you're

598
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a Democrat, which is absolutely absurd.

599
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: But what's even more absurd.

600
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Speaker 5: Is as conservative Christians Republicans demonize democrats, all democrats, and

601
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:59,400
you can't possibly be a Christian. As they demonize democrats,

602
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:04,039
they basically go against one of Jesus' primary teachings. Instead

603
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:08,680
of loving their enemies, all these lost democrats, they demonize them.

604
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,920
They make democrats the enemy. And what did Jesus tell

605
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,480
us to do with our enemies. Anybody, remember, Yeah, So

606
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,799
let me just say that those of you who are

607
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:20,160
conservative politically like me.

608
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Speaker 1: If you do that, stop it.

609
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Speaker 5: You can disagree, but you don't write somebody off as

610
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,240
bad and evil. Here's why you think it's just think

611
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,799
it's just kind of funny. You study history. All that

612
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,799
has to happen in any country is for a majority

613
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,000
to decide a minority is evil. And once they're evil,

614
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,759
they're cockroaches, and they're rats.

615
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: And cockroaches rats gets us too, of course, Nazi Germany. Hey,

616
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,720
you guessed it. Congratulations, chicken dinner Winter. So who is

617
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,279
this guy and why does Andy Stanley? I mean, he

618
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matters because he is created by God in his image,

619
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and we have that we are to love our enemies,

620
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:05,200
absolutely right, But why does he have the footprint that

621
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he does and what is his influence?

622
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Speaker 3: Well, so Andy Stanley is a another megachurch pastor down

623
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down in Georgia, but son of Charles Stanley, who was

624
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kind of a kind of a well known name and

625
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,039
then sort of history of conservative evangelicalism. And then his

626
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:24,920
son Andy starts his own church a little while ago,

627
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:28,359
kind of build into a big empire. But Andy Stanley

628
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,680
is in the category of what I would describe as

629
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:35,200
seeker sensitive pastors seeker sensitive churches, which are churches that

630
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,160
have basically designed themselves around appealing to unbelievers and lost

631
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,599
people that come to visit the church. And not that

632
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,160
there's anything wrong with evangelism or anything wrong with preaching

633
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,200
the gospel, but that's actually not what church services are for.

634
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:52,039
So what ends up happening is the what should be

635
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,039
worship of God, preaching of the Word of God, the

636
00:31:55,079 --> 00:32:00,680
gathering of of of Christians together becomes it it becomes

637
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,880
degraded as they start to change things in their church

638
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,200
to appeal to the to the sensibilities of people that.

639
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: Aren't followers of Jesus Christ.

640
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: And so so I mean, I mean Andy Stanley's church

641
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,200
has been They've they've they've gone soft on l g

642
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:18,559
B t Q issues. They've they've gone soft on, uh,

643
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,799
you know, the roles of men and women in ministry.

644
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They had a conference very recently that they didn't stream

645
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or anything like that because I think they knew what

646
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:32,559
was going to happen. They basically have had told parents

647
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:36,519
how to to handle their their l g B t

648
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,000
Q identifying children not by telling them what God says

649
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,960
and what the Bible says, but by affirming their feelings

650
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and affirming these things. How to how to basically minister

651
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,319
to your quote unquote gay children. That's that's been a

652
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,359
big part of what they do. But you saw in

653
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:56,440
that Andy Stanley clip, he didn't he didn't really deal

654
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,119
with the issue. He challenged the terms. This is a

655
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,640
big problem not only in just our postmodern society, where

656
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,839
people they don't actually talk about the idea in and

657
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,279
of itself as strongly connected with the term. They deconstruct

658
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:13,319
a term. So if someone says, you know, like, hey,

659
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,759
democrats can't be Christian, well the next thing you should

660
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:19,079
be asking is what do you mean by democrats and

661
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,279
what do you mean by Christian? If you can really

662
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,839
solidify those two things, now you can actually judge whether

663
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:28,160
that statement is true or not. So if someone like

664
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,680
me says, well, you can't be a Democrat and a Christian,

665
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,839
what I'm really saying is you can't be a democrat

666
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,559
as defined by democrat ideology and politics and believe those

667
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,720
things in any sort of consistency with being a Bible

668
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,359
believing Christian. That believes what the Bible teaches about things.

669
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Those two things are not compatible. Well Andy just throws

670
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that out the window, and he says, no democrat is

671
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just whatever somebody says it is if they say they're

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a democrat.

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Speaker 1: There's a great very confusing, very confusing. There's a great

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book called the Gay Gospel. If you read this book.

675
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I haven't read it, okay, I know. So it's written

676
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by a guy who was a pastor and then he

677
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had these same sex attraction feelings. It haunted him and

678
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,039
he gave in. So he and look, that's a super

679
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:14,960
hard thing. Anyone who thinks it's not hard has never

680
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:21,280
really really had a conflict of heart and emotionally romantically,

681
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,480
never been through divorce or anything like that. I mean

682
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:27,159
things are hard sometimes. Or saying no to a relationship

683
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:32,119
that you shouldn't have, like, it's hard. So he fell

684
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and he then had this racked with guilt. I shouldn't

685
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be doing this. I know what the Bible says. I

686
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,840
know what it says about sexuality. And then David he

687
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found a same sex attracted friendly church. And here's the pitch.

688
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Speaker 4: Here's the pitch.

689
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Speaker 1: The Bible does say marriages between a man and a woman.

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But God is a loving god. He made us this way.

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He would never punish us for being who we are

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because it's unfair and God is fair and just. That's

693
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the pitch. And when people hear that, there's a great

694
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piece of research. A friend of mine did that. What

695
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:21,320
liberals and moderates value in any political discourse or moral

696
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,639
discourse is fairness and compassion. They don't think about liberty,

697
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960
they don't think about law and order, they don't think

698
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,239
about af effects, they don't think about unintentional harm. Is

699
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,920
it compassion and fair? So that really appeals to them? Well,

700
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,519
that sounds very compassionate and fair and inspired by what

701
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:44,599
you said defining our terms. Well, wait a minute, how

702
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:46,880
do you define same sex attraction? Is it a feeling

703
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or an identity? And let's poke away at that a

704
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little bit. If someone is kleptomaniacal and they like to steal,

705
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,320
is that their identity now? And where to sponsor that?

706
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,639
This is what they're this is where to sponsor that?

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What I see Andy Stanley doing there is is caring

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in fairness, compassion in fairness.

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Speaker 4: Is it fair? So?

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Speaker 1: How do we out love fake love? Because we're to

711
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approach things like same sex attraction and those struggles. We're

712
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to approach them with love. We're to approach democrats who

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have been abused of the idea that open borders is

714
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the only way to show love to migrants or illegal immigrants.

715
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It's the only way to do it. How do we

716
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outlove them.

717
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Speaker 3: Well, it's I would argue that that's probably not the

718
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,199
right way to look at it. Let's hear that if

719
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we're Christians, then by definition we're believers in the power

720
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,840
of the Holy Spirit of God to do work in

721
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,760
and among us, and in and among our culture. And

722
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so you know, my encouragement is always to not try

723
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,119
to lean on our own wisdom and understanding and our

724
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:58,199
own strength. And if I can only explain it this way,

725
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000
then maybe they'll quit doing this that I know is sinful,

726
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:05,039
but but be willing to pay the price for preaching

727
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:08,320
the truth in love and patience, and and you know

728
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,639
what the Bible will describe as long suffering. So for somebody,

729
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,679
somebody who's struggling with same sex attraction, they know that

730
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,400
it's wrong scripturally, they know what the Bible teaches. Our

731
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:23,159
job is not to try try to win them over

732
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,280
by our own cunning and understanding. It's basically to say,

733
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,119
this is what the Bible teaches. I love you, and

734
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,280
because I love you, I'm not going to withhold this

735
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,519
from you, and you might hate me for it. You

736
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,519
Jesus said, I've come to divide father against son, you know,

737
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:37,480
mother against daughter.

738
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Speaker 4: That that would happen.

739
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Speaker 3: We don't want that, I mean our of course, in

740
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our humanity, we don't want that. It's not something that

741
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,280
we seek out. But are we willing to pay the price.

742
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,320
Because the biggest way that this kind of thing this

743
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:53,559
especially with kids, I mean that the transgender stuff with

744
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:56,280
kids and the you know my kid is I mean

745
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,320
five year olds and I think he's he's differently attracted

746
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,280
or he's. The way that this infiltrates well meaning churches,

747
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,760
well meaning Christian households and things, is because they are

748
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,840
unwilling to put their allegiance to God and his truth

749
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,239
above the relationship.

750
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Speaker 4: So like.

751
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Speaker 3: And we find this with conservative Christian pastors and all

752
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,239
of a sudden, they flip the switch and they're teaching

753
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,719
something different than what the Bible teaches about gender. And

754
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,880
ninety nine times out of one hundred you find that

755
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,400
this was a personal relationship. This this this was like

756
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,960
my son came out, my daughter came out, my my

757
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,679
niece or something was you know, their parents were claiming

758
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:41,000
that she was a boy trapped in a girl's body

759
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:44,239
or something. And because they are unwilling to, because they're

760
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,800
really idolizing and loving their relationships more than they're loving God,

761
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,599
they change, they compromise, they flip, and it's really tough.

762
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:54,679
I don't even deny how tough that is when there's

763
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:57,599
a there's a situation in our families and people that

764
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,480
we love that are now being disobedient. But the question

765
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:03,000
is do you love God and his truth more? And

766
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:06,880
are you willing to be consistent with them? And like, no,

767
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000
I can't go there. I'm not changing what I believe

768
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:12,400
about this. Right, you need to repent, please, I'm baking

769
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,320
you repent.

770
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not suggesting that we go there with them

771
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on the pronouns, et cetera. I'm going to share with

772
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,679
you in a second an example of what I mean.

773
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,039
There's this great debate about and you probably know you're

774
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:25,199
far more educated than I am, who actually said share

775
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:27,320
the Gospel with everyone you know, and when necessary, use

776
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,199
words right, right, and there's another. Okay, So I want

777
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:33,119
to give you an example of what I mean in

778
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,920
terms of out loving them, and I'll share it is

779
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,480
a personal example, and never change my views, will not.

780
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,719
I'm very public. It be very difficult for anyone in

781
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,519
my family to not ascertain my views on these things.

782
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,320
I shouldn't have to do what I'm going to do

783
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,400
in a couple months, which is go get on an airplane,

784
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:54,400
fly from where I live near or in North Idaho,

785
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,000
fly down to Dallas, have a long wait over, and

786
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:01,559
then fly into Port of Art to Mexico. And I

787
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:03,599
love it down there. I love the city, I love

788
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:06,000
the people. It's a new resource. I haven't been to

789
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,679
this one. I've seen it in pictures. It's just across

790
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:11,440
the street from renewed Dot Healthcare. I'm going to go

791
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,760
down there and get another stem cell treatment. I shouldn't have.

792
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,039
Speaker 4: To do that.

793
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,639
Speaker 1: I should be able to drive up the street and

794
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:19,239
get stem cells and instantly. Of course, I would never

795
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,559
use stem cells from abortions. It's unthinkable to me, never

796
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,639
ever do that. This is medical waste. In our country.

797
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:29,519
Placentas and umbilical cords are treated as medical waste, not

798
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:32,880
by renew they contact parents and they pay for the

799
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,400
childbirthing process all the way through it. They monitor the

800
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,519
health of the mother and the baby or babies throughout

801
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:43,280
that process and afterwards to make sure that the babies

802
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,280
and mothers are healthy. Therefore highest quality stem cells. They

803
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,599
take them in Mexico and they culture them. Those stem cells.

804
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:55,639
The magic is this, they're building cells. They're just sitting

805
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,039
there teeming with energy to build cartilage, muscle, tendon, and

806
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:04,440
they fight inflammation. They destroy inflammation, and when they're putting

807
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,519
your body into a specific location, they help you heal.

808
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:10,360
They can even prevent surgery. Kevin, what I do in

809
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,760
the gym and outside the gym, I'm gonna go down

810
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,960
and get my shoulders looked at, my lower back looked at,

811
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:16,920
and I'm no one going to get some of that treatment.

812
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,840
You can too, even if you are in a serious

813
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,119
situation like traumatic brain injuries. Yes, I've seen people go

814
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:30,039
into renew paralyzed, hemispherically paralized and walk out. They're that good.

815
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,599
Go to renew dot Healthcare. It's r e n u

816
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:35,239
E dot Healthcare. R e n u e dot Healthcare.

817
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,400
Telling me you're part of the Todd Hermanshaw family. David Morrel.

818
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:46,199
I had this this family reunion this past spring, and

819
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,159
one of our family members, Uh is of the opinion

820
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:55,360
that she is a man, and I love her, and

821
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,480
she's far younger than me, and I was I felt

822
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,760
stress and worry about this, and then I went to

823
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,119
the Bible. Okay, I knew I wasn't going to refer

824
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:08,360
to her with male pronouns. I can't. I can choose

825
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,199
to not use pronouns. My primary motivation there was to

826
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,360
let me disappear for her to experience God's love through me.

827
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,639
And so when I saw her and approached her, I

828
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,400
screwed up because I couldn't remember the new name. She

829
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,400
corrected me, I'm willing to use the name. That's her name.

830
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,880
That's not a lie, that's her name. She's changed her name.

831
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,159
And after we'd spent some time together, something amazing happened. David,

832
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,960
a homeless woman having a psychotic break drove up into

833
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,440
the mountains, I think, to kill herself, and my family

834
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,639
member found her and screamed for help, and I ran

835
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,159
up the hill and she and I together partnered in

836
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,559
helping this young girl. And then my sister came up

837
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:52,000
a liberal nurse practitioner, a liberal, very progressive, very terrified

838
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,440
of Trump. And she and I then tended to that

839
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,800
girl for the rest of the day, pretty much ignoring

840
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,679
the family reunion because she needed it to be safe.

841
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,880
Here's what happened is when I was leaving, I got

842
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,840
an opportunity to walk up to this young woman who

843
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,960
is gender confused, and I meant this, and this is

844
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,760
what the Holy Spirit gave me is I came to

845
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,679
her and said, I know you and I disagree in

846
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,039
something fundamentally important to you. I know that, and you

847
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:19,440
know that, but I want you to know I am

848
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,480
delighted to see you. Well, I love you, I'm very

849
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:26,159
proud of the career building, and I want you to

850
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,280
know that God has given you some great, great gifts.

851
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:35,840
And her response emotionally not why I said it, but

852
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,920
to see tears in her eyes and a recognition that

853
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,760
you still love me, and a recognition of there's this

854
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,079
thing you and I disagree on it and you know it.

855
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,559
My primary goal was that she walked away with Wait,

856
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:56,280
where was the hate filled Christian wishing me to hell?

857
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:01,880
That's what I mean by sharing the Gospel when not

858
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,480
using words that wow, that old man family member. He

859
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:07,519
actually read he does love me because I saw tears

860
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:09,119
in his eyes. Does that make sense? That's what I'm

861
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:10,320
talking about outloving them?

862
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

863
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: Well, and that is that is a it is a

864
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,239
valid component in something that we should all be doing.

865
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: You know.

866
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,159
Speaker 3: I mean, Jesus teaches us to love our enemies, right,

867
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,280
So what what does that mean? He's he's he's He's

868
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,519
not teaching us that somebody who is violating the rights

869
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:29,440
of others, or somebody that is attacking us or our families,

870
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,599
that we just sit there and take it.

871
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: That's not what he's teaching.

872
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: But he is teaching that we are to be selfless

873
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,559
in our approach to everybody else, so they can know

874
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,719
as is as you outline there, that we disagree that

875
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,519
we believe this is this is a I mean, a

876
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:46,000
sinful problem. This is a problem that can separate you

877
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,960
from the kingdom even and yet still in my role

878
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:51,199
is I'm going to love you as much as I can.

879
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,000
I'll give you the shirt off my back. I don't

880
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:56,159
you know that what you believe or what you practice

881
00:44:56,159 --> 00:44:58,039
in this area, or those kinds of things, it has

882
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,239
no impact on my desire to love view.

883
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: But who defines love, well, God defines love.

884
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 3: So love for her is going to be not compromising

885
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,480
the truth, not being unwilling to tell her and and

886
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:11,760
really like you know, following the leading of the spirit

887
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,440
in that conversation, right, the Spirit of God will tell

888
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:17,440
us now is the time that you need to really

889
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:20,000
tell them the truth? Or now is the time when

890
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:23,039
you need to just love them materially. And that's yeah,

891
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:26,239
that can be difficult to navigate sure for Christians. But

892
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,079
the important thing to know is that love is not

893
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:32,880
defined by their preferences. Love is not defined by their feelings.

894
00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:33,199
Speaker 4: Or what they want.

895
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,519
Speaker 3: But love does involve, you know, materially caring for people

896
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:40,880
that we know are in sin. We know that that

897
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,920
you know or you know we believe or lost, we

898
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,880
still care for them.

899
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

900
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: And I think that God placed that young girl there

901
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,199
who is having this psychotic break and she'd you know,

902
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,719
a drug user. She still had on her on her

903
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,800
wrist a hospital bracelet because she'd checked herself out of treatment.

904
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,559
I believe God placed her right there so that my

905
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:03,119
younger family member would be the first to finder and

906
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:04,719
scream for help, and I would be the second one

907
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,880
there so that she could go, Wow, this old man,

908
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:11,599
he's like tossing everything aside, freezing, giving this girl his

909
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,039
coat as this like terrible spring snow is falling on him.

910
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,639
And I'm not trying to take credit for it. I

911
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:19,920
mean we're called to do that. I want to place

912
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:21,599
one more video clip here.

913
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 4: This is a.

914
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,159
Speaker 1: False pastor awoke. In pastor, by the way, you should

915
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:30,920
trademark that if you invented that, that's a great phrase.

916
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,800
And in pastor talking about the militaristic bs and I

917
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,519
want to get your reaction to this and talk about

918
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:43,320
militarism in the church. And there are people who online

919
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:48,360
are really really proposing that Christians get overtly militaristic, that

920
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,599
you know what, the Christian army should go seize the

921
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:53,280
Middle East, We should go seize these countries. We should

922
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,400
forcibly physically fight back. And I want to talk about

923
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,599
that trend. Let's watch this video together.

924
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 6: And the last Sunday of the church here today is

925
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:08,000
also designated to be sort of traditionally Christ the King Sunday,

926
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,760
or in modern times more likely called Reign of Christ Sunday.

927
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,119
And the point is this, I do not like the

928
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,880
concept of Christ the King Sunday, and I really don't

929
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,639
want to preach on it. And the reason is that

930
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,400
it has traditionally gotten preached as a kind of a

931
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:32,199
triumphalist victory over all our enemies, militaristic kind of thing,

932
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,719
and I think a that has no relationship whatsoever with

933
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,679
the notion of unconditional love that I believe is at

934
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:43,199
the heart of the Gospel. And B Jesus would be

935
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,760
utterly horrified to be worshiped in that kind of way.

936
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,440
And see, that kind of militaristic has absolutely no place

937
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:53,119
in church.

938
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: But at least try to remember the rest of my sermon.

939
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 6: So it has no place. And I dislike it because

940
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,320
it leads to all kinds of evil crap, like Christian nationalism,

941
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,559
which I declare to be a heresy, which also leads

942
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:17,440
to all kinds of evil, divisive.

943
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,599
Speaker 1: Crap like Well, I really like a sermon with BS

944
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,039
and the sea word in it for feces, because that's

945
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:26,840
the emphasis we need. So she's making this statement that's

946
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,280
Christ the King is a militaristic statement. It's about stomping

947
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,880
on her enemies. She's not going to preach that that's bs,

948
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,599
that sea word for for excrement, your response to that,

949
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,480
and the response in the comment sections and her if

950
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,320
she had any what's how do you feel about all that?

951
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a there's a Christian nationalism as defined by

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the left, by like the Marxist left that's in Western culture,

953
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which is a very different thing than sort of the

954
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Christian nationalism that has talked about within It's sort of

955
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evangelical with a church conversation. And yeah, so this is

956
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this is a pastors as we like to call female pastors,

957
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a pastors at a at a very very radical I

958
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believe it was an evangelical Lutheran church, and that that

959
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denomination has been very left for a very long time.

960
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,000
It and and basically pushing this idea that if you

961
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say Christ is King, that's some sort of you know,

962
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:29,920
dog whistle or something like that for some sort of militaristic, uh,

963
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you know, takeover countries and Christianize them kind of a thing.

964
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And well, yeah, I'm sure there's some people on the

965
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fringes that support that kind of idea. That the thing

966
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that I always pull from it is to want a

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Christian nation is not to say that we want a

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nation full of regenerate Christians.

969
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: There's no way. We can prove that anyway.

970
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Speaker 3: But I do want a nation where our laws and

971
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our system and our our civil governance and things is

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derived as it has been for the history of this country,

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derived from Biblical precepts, from Christian understandings of justice, the

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the amago day, the sanctity of the individual as the

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rights bearer that then gives the gives up some of

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that for the purpose of governing a nation, but that

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they are the originators of you know, God gives us

978
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rights and then we give some of that in as

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as we desire to to a government. I mean that

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is my definition of a Christian nation is a nation

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that that operates itself in accordance with God's standards. And yeah,

982
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:31,000
there's gonna be some there's gonna be some personal elements

983
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to that, right. I mean, our our system of governance

984
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is is is good for what for for a sound

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and moral people. It's it's it's wholly unfit for any other.

986
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That's a true thing.

987
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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So obviously we're gonna have to fight a culture war.

989
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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to fight a war for our legal system,

990
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and we're gonna have to fight, you know, for laws

991
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and government and structure to be what they are. But

992
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:52,760
we're also gonna have to fight the culture war of

993
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:56,599
you know, that's sinful behavior, you shouldn't do that. And

994
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:58,480
I think that's that that's what they really That's what

995
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,760
she's really taking the issue with this is like, what

996
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,360
do you mean you're you mean you're gonna tell me

997
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,320
that that's that that's simple and that's wrong, and that

998
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,320
I can't be whatever gender I want and so on

999
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and so forth.

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Speaker 4: I think I think that's what her her real beef

1001
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:09,679
was right.

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Speaker 1: And I think that Christian nationalism for me, a Christian

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nation does not mean what a lot of leftists fear

1004
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,320
it means. And I have family members if fear it

1005
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,280
means this, that we take over the government and then

1006
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,639
we come along and say, okay, convert or die. And

1007
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,880
it's funny, I've never saw Jesus do that one single time,

1008
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,119
because he could have made his work a lot shorter

1009
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:31,679
if he just came along and got like a thousand

1010
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,440
people said hey watch this, I'm lord about to me. No, okay,

1011
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,960
you're all dead now next up right. It could have

1012
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,800
been short and easy, but he chose to do it

1013
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,280
the way he chose to do it. You know, it's

1014
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,679
far too much of this, David, and I don't know.

1015
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,360
I think I have time to discuss this other than

1016
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,079
talking about Shepherd's for sale. In just a second, I

1017
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:52,400
got a really cool surprise from my friend Tim, who

1018
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,800
manufactures coffee, where I'm just going to show this to you.

1019
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,000
This is just now available. This is for which one?

1020
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That one?

1021
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: That one?

1022
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: Okay, that one. I'm putting it at that camera.

1023
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,079
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,119
Speaker 1: Pand it back forward. Is it helpful if I move

1025
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:07,280
it back and forth like that? It's not okay? This

1026
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,719
is a bone Frog Coffee's bag for Saint Patrick's Dane.

1027
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,199
If you're not watching listening on audio, I know that's frustrating,

1028
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,920
so let me translate. It has the Celtic cross on it,

1029
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,039
bone Frog coffee on the top, Irish true medium dark

1030
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:23,320
roast on the back. There is a story about this

1031
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,960
from Tim and this is what's in this bag. It

1032
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,840
says God Country Team all their bags say that. Because

1033
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,760
Tim is a retired Navy seal. He did three deployments

1034
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,280
on her behalf as a medica attached to the seal teams.

1035
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Then he was a BUDS instructor. Here's what he wrote

1036
00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:37,199
in the back of the bag. And I do know

1037
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,440
Tim wrote this. He also, by the way, I don't

1038
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,719
know if it's supposed to tell you this he actually created.

1039
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,599
He drew that cross. That's actually Tim Krukshank createdim man

1040
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:49,079
of many talents. Irish True embodies the essence of authenticity,

1041
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:51,480
staying true to one's values even in the face of

1042
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:55,199
life challenges. It reflects the indomitable fighting spirit of the Irish,

1043
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,719
the eternal bond of brotherhood, and the deep love and

1044
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,320
loyalty we share with one another across future. On this

1045
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,440
bag symbolizes a God first mentality and pays homage to

1046
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,480
my family's Celtic heritage. Legend has it that Saint Patrick

1047
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
introduced the Celtic cross to Ireland in the ninth century,

1048
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,679
lending Christian faith with Irish tradition. Our cross is uniquely

1049
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,480
designed and you can export deepermitting on our website. May

1050
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:17,000
the road rise up to meet you, May the window

1051
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,480
always be at your back, and may your cup always

1052
00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:21,440
be full. Celebrate the spirit the Irish spirits every day

1053
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:24,480
with Irish Io. And then he does have the American flag,

1054
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,480
but also the Irish flag in the back. That's new

1055
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,239
right there, so you can get that at Bonefrog Coffee

1056
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,079
dot com. Slash Todd gets ten percent off your first

1057
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:35,480
purchase fifteen percent off subscription coffee. This is a limited

1058
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:39,760
time offer because it's not going to be always headed

1059
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,760
up to Saint Patrick's Day. It's cool bag and we're

1060
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,480
gonna try the guy. Oh by the way, the coffee.

1061
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,880
Oh gosh, I forgot what blends this are. So I'm sorry.

1062
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,800
I'll get this next time, but I'll taste this that

1063
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,360
we just got him. I'll test you, give you a

1064
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,840
taste review Bonefrog Cooffee dot com slash todd. There's a

1065
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,400
resource and we didn't get to this. I kind of

1066
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,039
got just distracted in our conversation. But you have a

1067
00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:01,880
friend of yours who's written the book called Shepherds for Sale,

1068
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,159
and it seems that you think this is a great

1069
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,519
tool for pastors and people in congregation. And the last

1070
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,639
few minutes give us a download on that book of

1071
00:54:09,639 --> 00:54:11,559
why you think it's a important an important tool and

1072
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:12,880
a book that people should own.

1073
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,679
Speaker 3: So so back in back in July, Daily Wire reporter

1074
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Megan Bachelor released a book called Shepherds for Sale, in

1075
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which she basically had spent the last two years chronicling

1076
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:27,039
the leftist infiltration into different parts of American event especially

1077
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:32,119
American Evangelicalism, but American Christianity in general, through institutions, seminaries,

1078
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:38,519
you know, podcasters and influencers, pastors and pulpits, uh, you know,

1079
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,199
Christian media outlets like Christianity Today and these kinds of things,

1080
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and and like I bought a couple couple of copies

1081
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,199
of the book and for my pastors, you know, my church,

1082
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,920
just to to keep aware of what's going on out there.

1083
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 4: But there are a lot of things.

1084
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Speaker 3: As guys are pastoring on a daily basis and there,

1085
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:58,679
and they're shepherding their local flocks, they can't possibly stay

1086
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,199
informed of everything going on on in the broader in

1087
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,639
the broader conversation, the broader culture. And so I mean

1088
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that's why websites like protests you exist. And Meg Bashm's

1089
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:10,960
book Shepherds for Sale used a lot of our some

1090
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,960
of our research and things as well, which I appreciated.

1091
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:16,519
But it's it's kind of a good just a real

1092
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:19,519
good resource and catching pastors up about Okay, how when

1093
00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:21,360
when I'm hearing these things coming into the church, where

1094
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,679
I'm hearing the institutions I trust start pushing critical theory

1095
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,000
and start pushing uh, you know, racial ideology that that

1096
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,039
it's unbiblical, Where did it come from? How did it

1097
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,000
get here? Who are who are the proponents of this.

1098
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:35,039
It's a really good resource. For that reason, I told

1099
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people like, don't go buy this book and bash your

1100
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,760
pastor over the head with it. Say oh, I heard

1101
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,320
that in your sermon and you know you're you're anathma

1102
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,719
or something. Don't do that, but but use it as

1103
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,840
a resource to help catch them up with with with

1104
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what's going on in the broader conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And congratulations on Protestia the Twitter channel.

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We every time we use your clip I I or

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clips I really try to give you credit. And I

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hope you'll come back from time to time and join us.

1109
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And you're welcome any time here. Appreciate your work and

1110
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just thank you for letting God use you that way.

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Speaker 4: David. I appreciate you deeply. Thank you, thanks to I

1112
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appreciate the time.

1113
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the Todd Herban Show. Please go be well,

1114
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,760
be strong, be kind, and just make every effort on

1115
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a daily basis to walk in the light of Christ.