WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.560 --> 00:00:04.440 Golf Smarter number three hundred and fifty seven published on 2 00:00:04.519 --> 00:00:10.199 November thirteen, twenty twelve, featuring our score Zone short game Academy, 3 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:13.400 where the wedge Guy helps us improve those frustrating chip 4 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:15.119 shots just off the green. 5 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.359 Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 6 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:24.000 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 7 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:30.039 golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets old. Our 8 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:34.920 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 9 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:38.880 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 10 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:41.479 Well speak alf Since time as a factor, there's really 11 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.359 no time to walk around the green and read the 12 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:45.799 pod small kinds of different angles. 13 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:47.240 You just got to get up and hit it. 14 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:52.039 It's amazing how often the instincts are correct. 15 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:54.880 It's easy to overthink things. So the idea of just. 16 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:57.159 Getting up, taking a quick instinctive look and then just 17 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.359 putting it and then going on, it's really amazing how 18 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:02.200 well you can put like that. You know, on the 19 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.680 first day I had four or five birdies, so that's 20 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.159 one of the benefits, I guess. And then since you 21 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:09.400 have to run with your clubs, most guys play with 22 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:13.400 four to seven clubs. I played with a driver, a 23 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:16.040 twenty degree hybrid, a five iron and eight iron, and 24 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:19.200 a fifty two eree wedge and then a putter. Really, 25 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.120 that's all the clubs that you need to be able 26 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:24.400 to play. It teaches you to play shots. There's very 27 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:27.599 rarely a time and speak golf where you'll have a 28 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:30.640 shot that's a perfect distance. And for that matter, you 29 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:32.480 don't have time to like calculate the distance. 30 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:43.000 Shooting par in less than an hour with Jacob about 31 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:45.000 this is Golf Smarter. 32 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.239 Each week we tap the best minds in golf to 33 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:52.359 help lower your scores with tips, drills, insights and advice 34 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:57.359 in conversation with course pros, architects, authors, players, teaching gurus 35 00:01:57.400 --> 00:01:58.200 and coaches. 36 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:03.200 Here's your host, Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast, Jacob. 37 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:05.799 Hello friend, it's nice to be back. 38 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.000 It's good to have you back. Where are you today. 39 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:15.039 Today? I'm in Zurich, Switzerland, and that is home. Yes, 40 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:16.960 home for right now, home. 41 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:19.400 For right now. Ah here we are recording at the 42 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.479 beginning of November. It's getting to be the off season 43 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.039 for golf for you. Correct it is? 44 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:26.080 It is? Oh? 45 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:28.080 Sure, it is your season up there. 46 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:31.759 In Switzerland. 47 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.879 It's a lot of the courses are starting to close now, 48 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.319 and most of them will be closed within the next month, 49 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.919 kind of December, January, February. Most of them are closed, 50 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:43.840 with the exception of a couple like covered driving ranges 51 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:46.639 or a course here and there that you can. 52 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.560 Go out on if there's no frost. 53 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:52.400 So normally in the winter time like this, I'll find 54 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:56.719 my way to some warmer destination for a few weeks 55 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:58.159 to break up the winter. 56 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:04.199 Yeah. Yeah, well I can't imagine that it's a golf destination. 57 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:07.280 No, not really. 58 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:11.039 For those who play golf there, it's like, get me 59 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:11.599 out of here. 60 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.280 Hell, there's some good courses, but. 61 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:21.120 Come on, are there bad courses anywhere? If you're on 62 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:22.759 a golf course, this is good. 63 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:23.599 Right, right. 64 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:25.879 If there's a golf course, then it's a good course 65 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:27.479 exactly exactly. 66 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.159 So generally, you know, and the times that you've been 67 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:35.360 on the show, we've talked about your your website, Swingman 68 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.960 Golf and swing speed training, increasing your swing speed and 69 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:43.719 the instruction you give. But we're going to change gears 70 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:45.680 a little bit and talk about a different type of 71 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:52.759 speed because you recently participated in the Speed Golf Championships. 72 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:54.400 Speed Golf World Championships. 73 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.560 Yes, I'm sorry, the World Championship. 74 00:03:57.759 --> 00:03:58.840 Yeah. 75 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:03.560 Wow, So and that happened abandoned dunes on the West 76 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:04.680 coast of the United. 77 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:05.960 States, that's correct. 78 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:10.360 How did you get from swing speed to speed golf? 79 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:19.600 I was perusing on Facebook one day and one of 80 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:27.480 my family members came across a video that was a 81 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:32.439 time lapsed video of a guy named Chris Smith playing 82 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:36.480 around to speed golf abandoned dunes, and I thought the 83 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:42.639 video was really a cool video. And sometimes shortly after that, 84 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:50.000 I saw promo for the World Championships, and so I 85 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:53.639 contacted the tournament organizer and I was able to get in. 86 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.240 You know, it's interesting because I did a little research 87 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.879 before we did this, and I, you know, I typed 88 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.920 in Speed Golf Championships, spandon Dunes and I'm sorry, Speed 89 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:09.839 Golf World Championships didn't do and I found that Chris 90 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.600 Smith video. I will put it on the on Golfsmarter 91 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:17.079 dot com on the blog because it's really compelling. It's 92 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.319 you know, it's interesting because it's only like seven eight 93 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.519 minutes long, and you feel like you got the point 94 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:27.680 after the first two minutes. But it's hard to turn 95 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:28.120 it off. 96 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:32.480 Yeah, it's it's it's really well to Yeah, they did 97 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:41.759 a fantastic job, and it's yeah, it's hard to not 98 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.360 continue watching it, even though you know what's going to happen. 99 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:50.480 But it's there's something really amazing about someone shooting under 100 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:54.000 par in under an hour on a course like Bandon Dune. 101 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:56.000 All right, so, now that you've let the cat out 102 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.279 of the bag, explain what speed golf is so we 103 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.480 can we can then we can attack my list of 104 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:06.360 questions about it. But what is speed golf? 105 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:11.800 Uh, it's basically like regular golf, except that you. 106 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:14.920 Run in between shots. 107 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:20.120 So the total score your your total score is your 108 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:22.560 running time or just the time that it takes you 109 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:25.839 to play, plus your regular golf score. 110 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.879 Yeah. So I didn't get that when I was looking 111 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:35.040 at the when I was looking at the at the 112 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.720 scorecards here, it seemed like the guy who won wasn't 113 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:43.519 the lowest scores, nor was he the fastest runner, but 114 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:44.560 he still won. 115 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:54.920 Well, it's a two day competition, okay, and so yeah, 116 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.319 I forget his exact numbers, but he was a little 117 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:03.000 bit over a little bit over par, I think, on 118 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.879 both days. But then under an hour both days, and 119 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:10.279 just the total combination of his two times and his 120 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:14.680 two golf scores were enough to win. 121 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.040 Let's absorb this for just a second. He played eighteen 122 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:24.240 holes in under an hour and shot under par. 123 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.120 My two rounds were over par. 124 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.319 My first round was seventy five, but I was The 125 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.920 first round was seventy five and sixty one minutes, and 126 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:39.120 then I think I had I didn't play as well 127 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:39.720 on the second day. 128 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.839 I had seventy eight in fifty six minutes. 129 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:49.519 So after the first day, I was sitting fifth, and 130 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.240 I knew I figured that I need to win. I 131 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:58.439 needed to come in five minutes faster and just clean 132 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:02.639 up mistakes a little bit it and I came in 133 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:05.959 five minutes faster, but unfortunately I just didn't play as 134 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:10.439 well the second day, so I ended up remaining in 135 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:15.160 fifth place, and my total score was about six six 136 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:16.000 back of the lead. 137 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.000 So it was it was which is really close to 138 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:20.279 the lead? 139 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.000 Actually, you know, you maybe make three or four shots 140 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.759 less and then you saved one or two minutes from 141 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.360 having to run around for those shots, and then it's 142 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:29.800 right there. 143 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:30.720 So I was close. 144 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.759 It was It was really uh an honor to be 145 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.120 in the mix with these guys, especially with it with 146 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.720 a guy like Chris Meth. He's a great guy and 147 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:45.600 he has a Guinness the Guinness Record for speak golf. 148 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.720 I forget exactly what it is, but I think it 149 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:53.320 was a sixty five five under and I don't know 150 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:54.600 exactly forty. 151 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:56.679 Three minutes or something like that. We know, it's just 152 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:57.960 it was just really amazing. 153 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.679 Well, you know, and Bandon Dunes, I've yet to play there, 154 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:06.919 but I've not heard anybody come back from there saying, well, 155 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:11.600 that was a breeze, that was easy. Is a tough course? 156 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:13.120 Yeah it is. 157 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:19.240 And it's it's like true Links golf too. It's right 158 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.000 on the coast. It's absolutely beautiful. 159 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.080 And you know, I've heard people say that it is 160 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.879 the closest thing to true Links Scottish golf that we 161 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:29.360 have in the United States. 162 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:31.240 Yeah, I would agree. 163 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:34.000 I've played a number of Links courses in the US, 164 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:40.200 and although they were quote unquote Links courses, you couldn't 165 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:44.159 really run the ball up to the green or you know, 166 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:48.799 pup from fifty yards away, but Bandon you can do that. 167 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.000 They have five courses there. It plays. 168 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.600 I don't know if any if you or anyone any 169 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:59.000 listeners have played Saint Andrews. But it's the only course 170 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:02.879 other course outside of the UK there the only one 171 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.200 in the US that I've played that really does play 172 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:06.279 like a true length course. 173 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:10.000 I remember one of the par threes was I don't know. 174 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.120 One hundred and somewhere between one hundred and thirty one 175 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.080 hundred and fifty yards or something. And normally, you know, 176 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.080 I could hit a wedge or a nine iron on 177 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.879 that on a hole like that, but I hit a 178 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.200 five iron and just carried it about halfway and then 179 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:27.879 just rolled it up to the pin. 180 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:30.919 So you hitting it right into the wind, you just 181 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:34.559 headed right into the ocean? Is that why? 182 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:41.320 On that particular shot, the way the whole funnel, I 183 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.039 was tired and out of breath. The idea, the idea 184 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.360 of taking a taking a little just kind of bunting 185 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:53.000 a fire just seemed like it would take a lot 186 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:54.799 less energy than taking a full swing. 187 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:57.279 So oh, well, you know, and I want to talk 188 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:00.440 about the mental strategy of something like this, it's got 189 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:02.720 to be completely different, but I'm not there yet. So 190 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:09.519 it's I'm still having trouble because I don't even run. 191 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.600 I've never been a good runner. I just can't imagine. 192 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:15.159 I know that if I like I dropped my towel 193 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.799 and I realize that, you know, on the next hole, 194 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.360 or I left my club on the last hole or 195 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.440 something like that, and I run back to get it 196 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:24.799 and come back, it takes me three holes to catch 197 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:25.720 my breath. 198 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:30.200 Right right, right, Yeah, there is there is a level 199 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:36.519 of endurance that's that's required. A normal golf course is 200 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:41.279 going to be four plus miles and then and that's 201 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:45.120 straight from tee to green, so no one's hitting it straight. 202 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:49.879 So you got to add in the zigzagging, plus the 203 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.799 distance between the greens and the tea boxes, and then 204 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.279 depending on how hilly it is, that can add in 205 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:59.799 a lot of time. It really ends up being maybe 206 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.919 five or six miles, you know, I get again, it 207 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:03.879 depends on the course. 208 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:04.519 But then. 209 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:11.639 And you're having to not only be running that with 210 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.679 all the stopping and starting, stopping and starting, but you're 211 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:15.759 car carrying your. 212 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:16.639 Golf bag as well. 213 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:21.039 So it's there is a level of definitely a level 214 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:26.360 of stamina and conditioning that's required to be able to 215 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:28.480 do it at a at a competitive level. 216 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.080 I'm staring at at the numbers that you said, your 217 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.360 first round, you you shot a seventy five and sixty 218 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.320 one minutes. Your second round you shot a seventy eight 219 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:44.039 and fifty six minutes. And I'm trying to figure how 220 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:47.000 did you get three more strokes and five less minutes. 221 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:49.720 And I just realized, Oh, it's got to be on 222 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:55.039 the putting. I mean, how do you how do you 223 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:56.679 do it in less time and have more strokes? That 224 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:57.960 that's what baffles me. 225 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.279 But right well, I I. 226 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:06.480 You know that that's I don't know. The first day 227 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:10.840 I played, I played really well. I had four or 228 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:15.320 five birdies I think, and then uh, but I you know, 229 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:19.559 on these Bandon the old Mac course at Bandon has 230 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.840 huge greens and there's all kinds of undulations, so if 231 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:24.879 you get on the wrong part of it sometimes it's 232 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:28.120 you know, you're lucky to have You're lucky to get 233 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.960 up and up and into two putts. I must have had, 234 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.159 I forget exactly now. I think I had a three 235 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:35.879 three putts and a four putt. 236 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.440 With a seventy five. So wow. So I actually played 237 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:40.080 pretty good that. 238 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:41.279 Day, yeah, clearly. 239 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:46.639 And this was this was my first real go with 240 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:50.639 in the competition with the speak al, So I didn't 241 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:54.720 really there's a little bit of learning as far as 242 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:58.039 there's a learning curve as far as how to pace yourself. 243 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:02.720 So I felt like, you. 244 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:05.159 Know, you don't want to leave any and even leave 245 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.840 anything out there, but you don't at the same time, 246 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.120 you don't want to wear yourself down so much that 247 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:14.000 you have trouble completing around or completing your shots. So 248 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:17.840 it's it's it's a little it's a little tricky to 249 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:19.639 kind of get the hang of it. So the second 250 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:23.480 day I figured like I could clean up my transitions 251 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:27.519 a little bit to to make them faster. That would 252 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:29.159 pick up a little bit of time, and then just 253 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:31.639 try to run a little just try and run a 254 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.679 little bit faster. So I was I was able to 255 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:38.080 do that. But then on the second day tee to Green, 256 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.360 I I just didn't hit the ball. You know, it's 257 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:44.320 just an off day, and I didn't play as well. 258 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:45.840 I don't I don't think I had any birdies the 259 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:46.399 second day. 260 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:55.320 So amazing. So how do you train for this? Are 261 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:56.519 you a runner? Generally? 262 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:00.279 No, I I have. 263 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.799 I'm thirty six now, and when I was in my twenties, 264 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:07.559 right after college, I did some a number of five 265 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:10.000 k's and ten k's and triathlons, and I did a 266 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.360 marathon too, just for looking for ways to continue to 267 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:15.159 stay in shape. But then I got away from it, 268 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.879 and so when this came up, I was it was 269 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:21.720 kind of a way for me to I saw it 270 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:23.879 as a way to give me some extra motivation to 271 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:24.799 get back in shape. 272 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.000 So I started. 273 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:32.080 First, I started on a treadmill just to see if 274 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:35.399 I could I could do five miles, And at first 275 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:38.480 I did five miles in about a little over fifty 276 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.320 five minutes. Actually I did it on the track. And 277 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.399 then just to kind of ease my joints into it, 278 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:47.240 I started on a treadmill, and then I did a 279 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.480 little bit of track work, and then I did some 280 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.320 trail and city runs just running around the city as well. 281 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:56.000 It just kind of built up to it. 282 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.320 And then over the course of two months, in the 283 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:01.240 two months that I I found out about it and 284 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:05.080 got in and then the actual competition, I dropped down 285 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:07.960 my five mile time down from fifty five minutes to 286 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:11.720 a little over thirty six thirty six twelve I think. 287 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.279 So I really improved my conditioning a lot. 288 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:19.519 And if we did it only two months, yeah, yeah, 289 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:23.000 so I was pushing myself pretty hard and. 290 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:31.799 That once. If you can do five miles in yeah, 291 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:33.679 you really need to be able to do it under 292 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:36.799 forty minutes. Probably the stronger runners could do it, and 293 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.480 maybe thirty minutes five miles the stronger speed golfers, And 294 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.759 I was thirty six my running there were some guys 295 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.600 that were faster than me, and there were some guys 296 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:49.480 that were slower than me. So conditioning wise, I was 297 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.720 kind of in the middle of the pack there by 298 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:54.960 the time the competition willed around. But all of us 299 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:59.080 are good golfers. They're yeah, you know, we're all all 300 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.120 all of us in we're in the pro division. We've 301 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:05.519 all shot under par and tournaments before. So it's you know, 302 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:11.759 the one of the guys Chris Mo, He's played in 303 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:15.319 a couple of British Opens, He's played some tour events, 304 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:16.279 so there were the quality. 305 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:18.200 I did recognize that name when I was looking down 306 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:19.920 the leader list. 307 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:26.160 Yeah, so there are you know, it's not just you know, 308 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.839 average Joe golfers. We're all good golfers and we're all 309 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:31.799 you know, pretty decent runners. 310 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:33.680 Well, that was one of the things that I noticed 311 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:36.400 when I was watching the Chris Smith, the Chris Smith 312 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:41.759 video that was a promotion for the World Championships, is 313 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.880 that guy can putt. I mean he was nailing birdies 314 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.559 from twenty five thirty feet and it's not like you 315 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.079 get the opportunity to line up your putt. 316 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.160 Well, that's one of the you know, they're not everyone 317 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:58.720 is of course going to want to do speed golf. 318 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:02.759 But there are some things that you know that that 319 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.960 Chris does and that the other guys do, and that 320 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.599 that I've learned just from my experiences to speak golf, 321 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.960 that you can apply to your regular game, like with 322 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.920 speak golf, since there since time is a factor you 323 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.680 know putting for you mentioned, there's there's really no time 324 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.160 to walk around the green and and read the puff 325 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:24.839 from all kinds of different angles. You just got to 326 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:28.519 get up and hit it. And and it's amazing how 327 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:37.359 often the instincts are correct. So it makes golf rather 328 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.880 than the balls just sitting there then you react. You know, 329 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:43.839 you have time to think about it, and it's it's 330 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:47.519 easy to overthink things. So the idea of just getting up, 331 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.839 taking a quick instinctive look and then just putting it 332 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:55.400 and then going on it's it's really amazing how well 333 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:57.960 you can put. You can put like that. You know, 334 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:02.039 on the first day, I had four or five birdies 335 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.240 and we're playing, I mean, so that's that's one of 336 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:12.079 the benefits, I guess. And then we since you have 337 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:16.400 to run with your clubs. Most guys play with four 338 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:19.319 to seven clubs. I play with christ and I play 339 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:26.680 with six. So I played with a driver, a twenty 340 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:29.480 degree hybrid, a five iron and eight iron, and a 341 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:30.200 fifty two. 342 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:31.400 Degree woods and then a putter. 343 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:37.799 So you know, another thing is is when you play 344 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.920 with that, really that's all the clubs that you need 345 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:46.680 need to be able to play. It gets away from it. 346 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:50.599 It teaches you to play shots. So there's very rarely 347 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:54.759 a time and speak golf where you'll have a shot 348 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:57.680 that's a perfect distance. And for that matter, you don't 349 00:19:57.720 --> 00:19:59.319 have time to like calculate the distance. 350 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.920 How do you figure out It's like, okay, so I'm 351 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:03.960 now one hundred and sixty five yards here, usually one 352 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.400 hundred and sixty five yards, I'll pull out my what 353 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:09.039 You'll you probably pull out a seven iron or something, 354 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:12.519 and it's like, you know, and which bad club I'm 355 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.359 gonna you have to calculate that while you're running to 356 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.440 the ball, but you have to like, Okay, there's the ball, 357 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.039 there's the hole. N it's about I mean, how do 358 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:21.440 you know? 359 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.559 Well, that's something that is kind of a lost art, 360 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:29.200 I guess, and with a lot of golfers in modern golf, 361 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:33.440 I don't know. Back fifty plus years ago, there weren't 362 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:38.079 laser range finders, the courses didn't have sprinklers. 363 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:38.079 That were marked. 364 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:41.400 It was more of just a look, you pick out 365 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.599 a club that you think will do, get to hit 366 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.000 it where you want to go, and then you just 367 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:51.039 you just go up and whack it. So golf speed speed, 368 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:53.160 that's another thing about what the speed golf is. 369 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:54.920 You know. 370 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:57.519 I got up to that par three there, for example, 371 00:20:57.759 --> 00:20:59.519 and it was one hundred and thirty one hundred and 372 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:02.160 fifty yards, and I thought, well, I could hit an 373 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:04.599 eight iron there, but let's take my five iron and 374 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:05.519 just just. 375 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:10.359 React to the target. It's just as you're running up 376 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:10.799 to the. 377 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:17.000 Shot, you very quickly decide the shot you want to hit. 378 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:19.160 You pull out a club, you just look at the 379 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:22.599 target and then you instinctively swing. And it's it's a 380 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:27.319 little scary to play that way. At first, but you know, again, 381 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:30.920 it makes golf more instinctual. It takes out a lot 382 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.960 of the conscious thought and overthinking that kind of rex 383 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:42.599 people's games. And it's it's really amazing how how well 384 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:45.160 you can play like that. You know, try going out 385 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.960 for around and take all your odd irons out and 386 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.000 then just and and don't play with any of the distance. 387 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.160 Just look at the target, pick something instinctially and then 388 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.680 just let your swing. You let your swing be in 389 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:07.759 actual to just look at Like baseball, you know, if an. 390 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:11.240 Outfielders the ball well, well, like for defense, if an 391 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.079 outfielder it gets a ball like he doesn't you know, 392 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:16.039 pull a range finder out of his pocket and then 393 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:18.279 check the yardage to third base or a second base 394 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:20.680 or whatever, and then calculate how. 395 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:22.519 Far he has to swing his arm back and in 396 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:27.079 whatever he just looks and throws. And golf can definitely 397 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:30.519 be played like that and play like that really well too. 398 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:34.119 So you know, that's that's another one of the things 399 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:38.920 that you know, you may not want to play speed golf, 400 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:40.400 but that's one of the things that you can apply 401 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:41.839