1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Golf Smarter number three hundred and fifty seven published on 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:10,199 November thirteen, twenty twelve, featuring our score Zone short game Academy, 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,400 where the wedge Guy helps us improve those frustrating chip 4 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:15,119 shots just off the green. 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,359 Speaker 2: Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,000 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 7 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:30,039 golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets old. Our 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,920 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 9 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:38,880 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 10 00:00:38,759 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: Well speak alf Since time as a factor, there's really 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,359 no time to walk around the green and read the 12 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:45,799 pod small kinds of different angles. 13 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: You just got to get up and hit it. 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,039 Speaker 3: It's amazing how often the instincts are correct. 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: It's easy to overthink things. So the idea of just. 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,159 Speaker 3: Getting up, taking a quick instinctive look and then just 17 00:00:57,159 --> 00:01:00,359 putting it and then going on, it's really amazing how 18 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:02,200 well you can put like that. You know, on the 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,680 first day I had four or five birdies, so that's 20 00:01:04,719 --> 00:01:07,159 one of the benefits, I guess. And then since you 21 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:09,400 have to run with your clubs, most guys play with 22 00:01:09,719 --> 00:01:13,400 four to seven clubs. I played with a driver, a 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,040 twenty degree hybrid, a five iron and eight iron, and 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,200 a fifty two eree wedge and then a putter. Really, 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,120 that's all the clubs that you need to be able 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,400 to play. It teaches you to play shots. There's very 27 00:01:24,519 --> 00:01:27,599 rarely a time and speak golf where you'll have a 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,640 shot that's a perfect distance. And for that matter, you 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,480 don't have time to like calculate the distance. 30 00:01:39,159 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Shooting par in less than an hour with Jacob about 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,000 this is Golf Smarter. 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,239 Speaker 5: Each week we tap the best minds in golf to 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,359 help lower your scores with tips, drills, insights and advice 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,359 in conversation with course pros, architects, authors, players, teaching gurus 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,200 and coaches. 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Here's your host, Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast, Jacob. 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,799 Speaker 4: Hello friend, it's nice to be back. 38 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: It's good to have you back. Where are you today. 39 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:15,039 Speaker 4: Today? I'm in Zurich, Switzerland, and that is home. Yes, 40 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:16,960 home for right now, home. 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: For right now. Ah here we are recording at the 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,479 beginning of November. It's getting to be the off season 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,039 for golf for you. Correct it is? 44 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: It is? Oh? 45 00:02:26,159 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: Sure, it is your season up there. 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,759 Speaker 4: In Switzerland. 47 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:34,879 Speaker 3: It's a lot of the courses are starting to close now, 48 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,319 and most of them will be closed within the next month, 49 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:40,919 kind of December, January, February. Most of them are closed, 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,840 with the exception of a couple like covered driving ranges 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,639 or a course here and there that you can. 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: Go out on if there's no frost. 53 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: So normally in the winter time like this, I'll find 54 00:02:52,479 --> 00:02:56,719 my way to some warmer destination for a few weeks 55 00:02:56,719 --> 00:02:58,159 to break up the winter. 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:04,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well I can't imagine that it's a golf destination. 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: No, not really. 58 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:11,039 Speaker 1: For those who play golf there, it's like, get me 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,599 out of here. 60 00:03:11,759 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: Hell, there's some good courses, but. 61 00:03:16,759 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Come on, are there bad courses anywhere? If you're on 62 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:22,759 a golf course, this is good. 63 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:23,599 Speaker 4: Right, right. 64 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,879 Speaker 3: If there's a golf course, then it's a good course 65 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:27,479 exactly exactly. 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,159 Speaker 1: So generally, you know, and the times that you've been 67 00:03:32,199 --> 00:03:35,360 on the show, we've talked about your your website, Swingman 68 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:38,960 Golf and swing speed training, increasing your swing speed and 69 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:43,719 the instruction you give. But we're going to change gears 70 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:45,680 a little bit and talk about a different type of 71 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:52,759 speed because you recently participated in the Speed Golf Championships. 72 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: Speed Golf World Championships. 73 00:03:54,479 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sorry, the World Championship. 74 00:03:57,759 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 75 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Wow, So and that happened abandoned dunes on the West 76 00:04:03,639 --> 00:04:04,680 coast of the United. 77 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: States, that's correct. 78 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: How did you get from swing speed to speed golf? 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: I was perusing on Facebook one day and one of 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:27,480 my family members came across a video that was a 81 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:32,439 time lapsed video of a guy named Chris Smith playing 82 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,480 around to speed golf abandoned dunes, and I thought the 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:42,639 video was really a cool video. And sometimes shortly after that, 84 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:50,000 I saw promo for the World Championships, and so I 85 00:04:50,079 --> 00:04:53,639 contacted the tournament organizer and I was able to get in. 86 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because I did a little research 87 00:04:57,319 --> 00:05:00,879 before we did this, and I, you know, I typed 88 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:04,920 in Speed Golf Championships, spandon Dunes and I'm sorry, Speed 89 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,839 Golf World Championships didn't do and I found that Chris 90 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,600 Smith video. I will put it on the on Golfsmarter 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,079 dot com on the blog because it's really compelling. It's 92 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:20,319 you know, it's interesting because it's only like seven eight 93 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,519 minutes long, and you feel like you got the point 94 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,680 after the first two minutes. But it's hard to turn 95 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,120 it off. 96 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's really well to Yeah, they did 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:41,759 a fantastic job, and it's yeah, it's hard to not 98 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:45,360 continue watching it, even though you know what's going to happen. 99 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,480 But it's there's something really amazing about someone shooting under 100 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:54,000 par in under an hour on a course like Bandon Dune. 101 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: All right, so, now that you've let the cat out 102 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,279 of the bag, explain what speed golf is so we 103 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,480 can we can then we can attack my list of 104 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,360 questions about it. But what is speed golf? 105 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: Uh, it's basically like regular golf, except that you. 106 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: Run in between shots. 107 00:06:14,959 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: So the total score your your total score is your 108 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:22,560 running time or just the time that it takes you 109 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,839 to play, plus your regular golf score. 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I didn't get that when I was looking 111 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,040 at the when I was looking at the at the 112 00:06:35,079 --> 00:06:39,720 scorecards here, it seemed like the guy who won wasn't 113 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:43,519 the lowest scores, nor was he the fastest runner, but 114 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,560 he still won. 115 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: Well, it's a two day competition, okay, and so yeah, 116 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,319 I forget his exact numbers, but he was a little 117 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,000 bit over a little bit over par, I think, on 118 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:05,879 both days. But then under an hour both days, and 119 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,279 just the total combination of his two times and his 120 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:14,680 two golf scores were enough to win. 121 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's absorb this for just a second. He played eighteen 122 00:07:20,079 --> 00:07:24,240 holes in under an hour and shot under par. 123 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: My two rounds were over par. 124 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:33,319 Speaker 3: My first round was seventy five, but I was The 125 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,920 first round was seventy five and sixty one minutes, and 126 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,120 then I think I had I didn't play as well 127 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:39,720 on the second day. 128 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:42,839 Speaker 4: I had seventy eight in fifty six minutes. 129 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:49,519 Speaker 3: So after the first day, I was sitting fifth, and 130 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,240 I knew I figured that I need to win. I 131 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:58,439 needed to come in five minutes faster and just clean 132 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:02,639 up mistakes a little bit it and I came in 133 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,959 five minutes faster, but unfortunately I just didn't play as 134 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:10,439 well the second day, so I ended up remaining in 135 00:08:10,519 --> 00:08:15,160 fifth place, and my total score was about six six 136 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:16,000 back of the lead. 137 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: So it was it was which is really close to 138 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,279 the lead? 139 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: Actually, you know, you maybe make three or four shots 140 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:26,759 less and then you saved one or two minutes from 141 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,360 having to run around for those shots, and then it's 142 00:08:29,439 --> 00:08:29,800 right there. 143 00:08:29,839 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: So I was close. 144 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,759 Speaker 3: It was It was really uh an honor to be 145 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,120 in the mix with these guys, especially with it with 146 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,720 a guy like Chris Meth. He's a great guy and 147 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:45,600 he has a Guinness the Guinness Record for speak golf. 148 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:48,720 I forget exactly what it is, but I think it 149 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:53,320 was a sixty five five under and I don't know 150 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,600 exactly forty. 151 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 4: Three minutes or something like that. We know, it's just 152 00:08:56,919 --> 00:08:57,960 it was just really amazing. 153 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: Well, you know, and Bandon Dunes, I've yet to play there, 154 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:06,919 but I've not heard anybody come back from there saying, well, 155 00:09:06,919 --> 00:09:11,600 that was a breeze, that was easy. Is a tough course? 156 00:09:12,279 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah it is. 157 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: And it's it's like true Links golf too. It's right 158 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,000 on the coast. It's absolutely beautiful. 159 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I've heard people say that it is 160 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,879 the closest thing to true Links Scottish golf that we 161 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,360 have in the United States. 162 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. 163 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: I've played a number of Links courses in the US, 164 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:40,200 and although they were quote unquote Links courses, you couldn't 165 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:44,159 really run the ball up to the green or you know, 166 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,799 pup from fifty yards away, but Bandon you can do that. 167 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: They have five courses there. It plays. 168 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if any if you or anyone any 169 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,000 listeners have played Saint Andrews. But it's the only course 170 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,879 other course outside of the UK there the only one 171 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:05,200 in the US that I've played that really does play 172 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:06,279 like a true length course. 173 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: I remember one of the par threes was I don't know. 174 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: One hundred and somewhere between one hundred and thirty one 175 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:16,080 hundred and fifty yards or something. And normally, you know, 176 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,080 I could hit a wedge or a nine iron on 177 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,879 that on a hole like that, but I hit a 178 00:10:22,919 --> 00:10:26,200 five iron and just carried it about halfway and then 179 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:27,879 just rolled it up to the pin. 180 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:30,919 Speaker 1: So you hitting it right into the wind, you just 181 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,559 headed right into the ocean? Is that why? 182 00:10:36,879 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: On that particular shot, the way the whole funnel, I 183 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,039 was tired and out of breath. The idea, the idea 184 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,360 of taking a taking a little just kind of bunting 185 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,000 a fire just seemed like it would take a lot 186 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,799 less energy than taking a full swing. 187 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,279 Speaker 1: So oh, well, you know, and I want to talk 188 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,440 about the mental strategy of something like this, it's got 189 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,720 to be completely different, but I'm not there yet. So 190 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:09,519 it's I'm still having trouble because I don't even run. 191 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,600 I've never been a good runner. I just can't imagine. 192 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,159 I know that if I like I dropped my towel 193 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,799 and I realize that, you know, on the next hole, 194 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,360 or I left my club on the last hole or 195 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,440 something like that, and I run back to get it 196 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:24,799 and come back, it takes me three holes to catch 197 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:25,720 my breath. 198 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: Right right, right, Yeah, there is there is a level 199 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:36,519 of endurance that's that's required. A normal golf course is 200 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,279 going to be four plus miles and then and that's 201 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,120 straight from tee to green, so no one's hitting it straight. 202 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,879 So you got to add in the zigzagging, plus the 203 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:52,799 distance between the greens and the tea boxes, and then 204 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,279 depending on how hilly it is, that can add in 205 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:59,799 a lot of time. It really ends up being maybe 206 00:11:59,799 --> 00:12:02,919 five or six miles, you know, I get again, it 207 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:03,879 depends on the course. 208 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:04,519 Speaker 4: But then. 209 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,639 Speaker 3: And you're having to not only be running that with 210 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,679 all the stopping and starting, stopping and starting, but you're 211 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,759 car carrying your. 212 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:16,639 Speaker 4: Golf bag as well. 213 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,039 Speaker 3: So it's there is a level of definitely a level 214 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,360 of stamina and conditioning that's required to be able to 215 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:28,480 do it at a at a competitive level. 216 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm staring at at the numbers that you said, your 217 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,360 first round, you you shot a seventy five and sixty 218 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,320 one minutes. Your second round you shot a seventy eight 219 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,039 and fifty six minutes. And I'm trying to figure how 220 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:47,000 did you get three more strokes and five less minutes. 221 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:49,720 And I just realized, Oh, it's got to be on 222 00:12:49,759 --> 00:12:55,039 the putting. I mean, how do you how do you 223 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:56,679 do it in less time and have more strokes? That 224 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,960 that's what baffles me. 225 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,279 Speaker 4: But right well, I I. 226 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: You know that that's I don't know. The first day 227 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:10,840 I played, I played really well. I had four or 228 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,320 five birdies I think, and then uh, but I you know, 229 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,559 on these Bandon the old Mac course at Bandon has 230 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,840 huge greens and there's all kinds of undulations, so if 231 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,879 you get on the wrong part of it sometimes it's 232 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:28,120 you know, you're lucky to have You're lucky to get 233 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,960 up and up and into two putts. I must have had, 234 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,159 I forget exactly now. I think I had a three 235 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,879 three putts and a four putt. 236 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 4: With a seventy five. So wow. So I actually played 237 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,080 pretty good that. 238 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,279 Speaker 1: Day, yeah, clearly. 239 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:46,639 Speaker 3: And this was this was my first real go with 240 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:50,639 in the competition with the speak al, So I didn't 241 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,720 really there's a little bit of learning as far as 242 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,039 there's a learning curve as far as how to pace yourself. 243 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 4: So I felt like, you. 244 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,159 Speaker 3: Know, you don't want to leave any and even leave 245 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,840 anything out there, but you don't at the same time, 246 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:11,120 you don't want to wear yourself down so much that 247 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:14,000 you have trouble completing around or completing your shots. So 248 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:17,840 it's it's it's a little it's a little tricky to 249 00:14:17,919 --> 00:14:19,639 kind of get the hang of it. So the second 250 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,480 day I figured like I could clean up my transitions 251 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:27,519 a little bit to to make them faster. That would 252 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:29,159 pick up a little bit of time, and then just 253 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,639 try to run a little just try and run a 254 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:35,679 little bit faster. So I was I was able to 255 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,080 do that. But then on the second day tee to Green, 256 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:40,360 I I just didn't hit the ball. You know, it's 257 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:44,320 just an off day, and I didn't play as well. 258 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,840 I don't I don't think I had any birdies the 259 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:46,399 second day. 260 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: So amazing. So how do you train for this? Are 261 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,519 you a runner? Generally? 262 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:00,279 Speaker 4: No, I I have. 263 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,799 Speaker 3: I'm thirty six now, and when I was in my twenties, 264 00:15:04,879 --> 00:15:07,559 right after college, I did some a number of five 265 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:10,000 k's and ten k's and triathlons, and I did a 266 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,360 marathon too, just for looking for ways to continue to 267 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:15,159 stay in shape. But then I got away from it, 268 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,879 and so when this came up, I was it was 269 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,720 kind of a way for me to I saw it 270 00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:23,879 as a way to give me some extra motivation to 271 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:24,799 get back in shape. 272 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: So I started. 273 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: First, I started on a treadmill just to see if 274 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,399 I could I could do five miles, And at first 275 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,480 I did five miles in about a little over fifty 276 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,320 five minutes. Actually I did it on the track. And 277 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,399 then just to kind of ease my joints into it, 278 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,240 I started on a treadmill, and then I did a 279 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,480 little bit of track work, and then I did some 280 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:54,320 trail and city runs just running around the city as well. 281 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: It just kind of built up to it. 282 00:15:56,039 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: And then over the course of two months, in the 283 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,240 two months that I I found out about it and 284 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:05,080 got in and then the actual competition, I dropped down 285 00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:07,960 my five mile time down from fifty five minutes to 286 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:11,720 a little over thirty six thirty six twelve I think. 287 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:15,279 Speaker 4: So I really improved my conditioning a lot. 288 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,519 Speaker 6: And if we did it only two months, yeah, yeah, 289 00:16:19,639 --> 00:16:23,000 so I was pushing myself pretty hard and. 290 00:16:24,519 --> 00:16:31,799 Speaker 3: That once. If you can do five miles in yeah, 291 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,679 you really need to be able to do it under 292 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,799 forty minutes. Probably the stronger runners could do it, and 293 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:41,480 maybe thirty minutes five miles the stronger speed golfers, And 294 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:44,759 I was thirty six my running there were some guys 295 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:47,600 that were faster than me, and there were some guys 296 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,480 that were slower than me. So conditioning wise, I was 297 00:16:49,559 --> 00:16:52,720 kind of in the middle of the pack there by 298 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:54,960 the time the competition willed around. But all of us 299 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,080 are good golfers. They're yeah, you know, we're all all 300 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,120 all of us in we're in the pro division. We've 301 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,519 all shot under par and tournaments before. So it's you know, 302 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:11,759 the one of the guys Chris Mo, He's played in 303 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:15,319 a couple of British Opens, He's played some tour events, 304 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,279 so there were the quality. 305 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: I did recognize that name when I was looking down 306 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,920 the leader list. 307 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there are you know, it's not just you know, 308 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,839 average Joe golfers. We're all good golfers and we're all 309 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,799 you know, pretty decent runners. 310 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: Well, that was one of the things that I noticed 311 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,400 when I was watching the Chris Smith, the Chris Smith 312 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,759 video that was a promotion for the World Championships, is 313 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,880 that guy can putt. I mean he was nailing birdies 314 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,559 from twenty five thirty feet and it's not like you 315 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,079 get the opportunity to line up your putt. 316 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's one of the you know, they're not everyone 317 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,720 is of course going to want to do speed golf. 318 00:17:58,759 --> 00:18:02,759 But there are some things that you know that that 319 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Chris does and that the other guys do, and that 320 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:08,599 that I've learned just from my experiences to speak golf, 321 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,960 that you can apply to your regular game, like with 322 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:15,920 speak golf, since there since time is a factor you 323 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,680 know putting for you mentioned, there's there's really no time 324 00:18:19,759 --> 00:18:23,160 to walk around the green and and read the puff 325 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,839 from all kinds of different angles. You just got to 326 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,519 get up and hit it. And and it's amazing how 327 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:37,359 often the instincts are correct. So it makes golf rather 328 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,880 than the balls just sitting there then you react. You know, 329 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,839 you have time to think about it, and it's it's 330 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,519 easy to overthink things. So the idea of just getting up, 331 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,839 taking a quick instinctive look and then just putting it 332 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:55,400 and then going on it's it's really amazing how well 333 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,960 you can put. You can put like that. You know, 334 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,039 on the first day, I had four or five birdies 335 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,240 and we're playing, I mean, so that's that's one of 336 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:12,079 the benefits, I guess. And then we since you have 337 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,400 to run with your clubs. Most guys play with four 338 00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:19,319 to seven clubs. I play with christ and I play 339 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:26,680 with six. So I played with a driver, a twenty 340 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,480 degree hybrid, a five iron and eight iron, and a 341 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,200 fifty two. 342 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 4: Degree woods and then a putter. 343 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:37,799 Speaker 3: So you know, another thing is is when you play 344 00:19:37,839 --> 00:19:40,920 with that, really that's all the clubs that you need 345 00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:46,680 need to be able to play. It gets away from it. 346 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,599 It teaches you to play shots. So there's very rarely 347 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,759 a time and speak golf where you'll have a shot 348 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,680 that's a perfect distance. And for that matter, you don't 349 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,319 have time to like calculate the distance. 350 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: How do you figure out It's like, okay, so I'm 351 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,960 now one hundred and sixty five yards here, usually one 352 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,400 hundred and sixty five yards, I'll pull out my what 353 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:09,039 You'll you probably pull out a seven iron or something, 354 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,519 and it's like, you know, and which bad club I'm 355 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:15,359 gonna you have to calculate that while you're running to 356 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:18,440 the ball, but you have to like, Okay, there's the ball, 357 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:21,039 there's the hole. N it's about I mean, how do 358 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:21,440 you know? 359 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,559 Speaker 3: Well, that's something that is kind of a lost art, 360 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:29,200 I guess, and with a lot of golfers in modern golf, 361 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:33,440 I don't know. Back fifty plus years ago, there weren't 362 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,079 laser range finders, the courses didn't have sprinklers. 363 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,079 Speaker 4: That were marked. 364 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 3: It was more of just a look, you pick out 365 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,599 a club that you think will do, get to hit 366 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,000 it where you want to go, and then you just 367 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:51,039 you just go up and whack it. So golf speed speed, 368 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,160 that's another thing about what the speed golf is. 369 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 4: You know. 370 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,519 Speaker 3: I got up to that par three there, for example, 371 00:20:57,759 --> 00:20:59,519 and it was one hundred and thirty one hundred and 372 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:02,160 fifty yards, and I thought, well, I could hit an 373 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,599 eight iron there, but let's take my five iron and 374 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,519 just just. 375 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: React to the target. It's just as you're running up 376 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:10,799 to the. 377 00:21:12,519 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: Shot, you very quickly decide the shot you want to hit. 378 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,160 You pull out a club, you just look at the 379 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,599 target and then you instinctively swing. And it's it's a 380 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,319 little scary to play that way. At first, but you know, again, 381 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,920 it makes golf more instinctual. It takes out a lot 382 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,960 of the conscious thought and overthinking that kind of rex 383 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:42,599 people's games. And it's it's really amazing how how well 384 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,160 you can play like that. You know, try going out 385 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,960 for around and take all your odd irons out and 386 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000 then just and and don't play with any of the distance. 387 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:56,160 Just look at the target, pick something instinctially and then 388 00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:59,680 just let your swing. You let your swing be in 389 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:07,759 actual to just look at Like baseball, you know, if an. 390 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 6: Outfielders the ball well, well, like for defense, if an 391 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,079 outfielder it gets a ball like he doesn't you know, 392 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,039 pull a range finder out of his pocket and then 393 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,279 check the yardage to third base or a second base 394 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,680 or whatever, and then calculate how. 395 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:22,519 Speaker 3: Far he has to swing his arm back and in 396 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,079 whatever he just looks and throws. And golf can definitely 397 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,519 be played like that and play like that really well too. 398 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:34,119 So you know, that's that's another one of the things 399 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,920 that you know, you may not want to play speed golf, 400 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,400 but that's one of the things that you can apply 401 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,839 to the regular golf game. 402 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: That does speed up play. 403 00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: But then it teaches you to become a better player too, 404 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,559 because you learn to be a little bit more of 405 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:51,920 a shot maker and uh and and just play instinctually 406 00:22:51,920 --> 00:23:00,279 and play by fuel and Yeah. 407 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,599 Speaker 1: One of the core values of golf smarter is the 408 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:08,319 mental game. How important and in your general golf life, 409 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,880 not speed golf, but how important to you is the 410 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,160 mental aspect of golf. 411 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 3: I think it's really really important, especially now as a 412 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:27,960 better player. Technically, I have a good enough technique that 413 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,119 I can do all the shots and I know how 414 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,720 to hit all the shots. So for me now, I 415 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,680 think most of my improvement here. 416 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:43,519 Speaker 4: Is just is just on a mental level. 417 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: So then how do you apply that when you're running 418 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,359 to the ball and just trying to find the ball, 419 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:55,599 especially abandoned I've heard the stories of the fescue there. 420 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,960 It's not it's easy to lose balls there, but you know, 421 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,160 finding the ball and then looking up towards the flag. Uh, 422 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,319 And then you know you've got to get all that 423 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,400 in in the in the seconds that it takes for 424 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,759 you to get from one one shot to the next. 425 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,559 Where do you where does the metal game come in there? 426 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 3: Well, I guess because the time is such a factor 427 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:28,079 and you just uh, you kind of almost are taking 428 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,640 a little bit of your your conscious brain out of 429 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,920 it and playing more on a subconscious level. 430 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 4: You just. 431 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 3: Uh, run up to a shot, pick a club, make 432 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,200 a swing, and then go and you don't have time 433 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,839 to you know, if you mess up a shot, you 434 00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:46,319 don't have time to kind of fuss about it. You 435 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,640 got to move on real quick and make a decision 436 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,480 about the next shot. So in that sense, it's it's 437 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:55,880 been good as well for me mentally. Speak OFLF is 438 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,160 that you have to put the shots that you've played 439 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,200 previously behind you because the next one's coming up right away. 440 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:16,519 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. What what I'm like running down all 441 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:18,839 my different points that I want to go? What what's 442 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,240 the difference in the rules? You can't play the exact 443 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,480 same rules. Oh yes, we normally play when it takes 444 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,160 four and a half hours to five hours to play 445 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,119 around of golf. 446 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:37,079 Speaker 3: There there are slight, uh two slight modifications. One is 447 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,079 that you're allowed to leave the flag in in the 448 00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:43,319 interest of saving time. Okay, it makes sense, so you just, yeah, 449 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,039 you don't have to worry about taking the flag down 450 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,880 or put it back in, and just go up and 451 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,319 put it and then the second rule is if you 452 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,200 hit out about if you lose a ball, then you're 453 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,160 allowed to drop kind of like a lateral hazard on 454 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,759 the line that you went in and distance. Yes, yes, 455 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:08,720 And they treat lost balls and out of bounds like 456 00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:12,079 that because they thought it would be too much of 457 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,599 a penalty to have to run back to the tea 458 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,319 and then run back. It adds not only to you 459 00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:21,160 get penalties, not only the stroke, but your time, but 460 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,000 your but your time. It's it's just too severe of 461 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,799 a penalty. So that's the other modification. 462 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: How do you like that rule? 463 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: I like it well, for one, I mean, it saves time. 464 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:35,880 If you ever visible, you don't have to go all 465 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,839 the way back. So slow play is, you know, as 466 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:43,880 the problem was with golf. So so that's you know, 467 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:46,240 I kind of want the idea of that. 468 00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 4: It's I've always up the game a little bit. 469 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I we talk. Slow play is terrible. 470 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,960 How long it takes to play around golf is terrible. 471 00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:59,079 I've always thought, just do stroke and distance, just keep 472 00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:03,400 moving forward. Know, it gets too easy to just you know, 473 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:05,440 when you tee off and you know you've hit the 474 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,759 ball out, just drop another ball and hit another one, 475 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:09,720 you know, and it's like okay, I'm hitting three. Oh, okay, 476 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,240 I'm hitting five. Okay, I'm done with this whole. I 477 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,200 just think, yeah, let's it went out over here. And again, 478 00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:19,000 it's probably the same thing as where the ball goes out. 479 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:21,039 You can't go any closer to the whole than that. 480 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you know, golf is a game of integrity, 481 00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:31,319 so you just yeah, you know, you're trusted to play 482 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,720 play the shot. 483 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 4: On your owner, you know. And that's one of the 484 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,480 cool things about golf, is it. 485 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:39,559 Speaker 1: You know, it's but if you had time to ever 486 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,799 stop and go oops, I just broke a rule because 487 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,440 like you're moving so fast, there's got to be something 488 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,160 else that you've done. It's like, oh that that's a 489 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,279 no note. Okay, call a penalty on myself. 490 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 4: Really, I've never had a problem with that. 491 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: There there was one incident, I think on the eighteenth grade, 492 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,319 after the first day, guy as he was going. 493 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: Up to putt it. I think he putted it while 494 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,039 the ball is still moving or something, or. 495 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 3: I forget exactly what the situation was, but he basically 496 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,599 just called a penalty on himself, added it to a score, 497 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,119 and then. 498 00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:25,279 Speaker 4: You know, so it's I guess he just treat it 499 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,200 like you would with any or more on the golf. 500 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:32,319 Speaker 1: And that's while I was watching the video, I noticed that, 501 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,640 you know, how often do you put the ball. You've 502 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,119 got to you put the ball, and then you don't 503 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:40,839 stand there and wait and watch the ball like you're 504 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,640 following the ball. Especially on a long putt, you put 505 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,640 it and you following it all the way until it stops. 506 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,119 You got to make sure it stops. Then you've got 507 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,160 to tap it in hopefully if not it's a four 508 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,920 or five foot or you got to put it in. 509 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,759 And you know, like you said, you had a bunch 510 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:53,400 of three putts. 511 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, as soon as. 512 00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: In the three putts, I don't think that that I 513 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,880 had weren't necessarily from bad putting. It's just the greens 514 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,480 are are really huge and undulating, and if you get 515 00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:11,200 part of anyone would have a difficult time. So in 516 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640 general I felt like I putted well, it's just I 517 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,759 was in some bad I put myself in some bad 518 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,680 a few bad places on that first day. 519 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: There's a couple of different divisions that I saw on 520 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,839 the scorecard. There there's the Elite division, which you were 521 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,480 part of, how did you qualify for that? 522 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,759 Speaker 3: I based on my scores just as a professional and 523 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:40,960 regular golf plus plus the times that I had a 524 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,200 number of years ago demonstrated. I guess that one I 525 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:46,960 was a good golfer and the two I was capable 526 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:51,920 of running fast enough to be competitive. So they just 527 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,240 looked at some some prior running and golf results to 528 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,359 make that determination. 529 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: And then there's an amateur divis as well, and that's 530 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,039 broken up by age. 531 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: There was an amateur division, yes, but I don't to 532 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,119 be honest, I don't remember how it was broken up. 533 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, based on the scoring what I saw in my research. 534 00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:16,799 It was based on you know, they have over fifty, 535 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,240 under twenty, you know, twenty to twenty nine, thirty thirty 536 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:25,200 and that kind of thing. So what I'm really fascinated 537 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,799 is where and how do you practice? I mean, how 538 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,559 can somebody say, yeah, I'm going to go to my 539 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,519 local golf course and I want to play speed golf. 540 00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,000 Well you can't just tee off at noon. 541 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,519 Speaker 4: Right right. That is one of the trickier things about it. 542 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: So one either you got to be the first group 543 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,319 off or the first person off, yeah, for the day. 544 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,559 So well, you know, which for some people that like 545 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,039 running and like golf, you know, you can go and 546 00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:56,640 get the first tea time and go out and play 547 00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,759 nine holes or eighteen holes and get your cardio done 548 00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:04,160 and then be off to work. So so being the 549 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,559 first off is one one way to do it. Going 550 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:09,799 in the last hour of the day is also another 551 00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:11,839 way to do it because most people, you know, there's 552 00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,160 not going to be someone on the first first tee 553 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,039 in most cases. 554 00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: Oh that's true. You think you can do Yeah, if 555 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,920 you think you can do the round an hour, hour 556 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000 and a half and the sun's going to set it now, 557 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,680 it's setting at five o'clock, you can see off at 558 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,200 three thirty because mostly by three thirty people are on. 559 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,079 The last group is generally on the twelfth to eleventh, 560 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:34,960 thirteenth t at that point. 561 00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:38,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can do nine holes maybe that way, 562 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,200 and then. 563 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: Perhaps if there's if you're out by yourself and there's 564 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:48,720 there's several holes between you and the next group, or 565 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,119 you and the group behind you, you can lou back 566 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,799 and just play play the holes, play play them over again, 567 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,119 or adjacent holes, just run and do them twice. That's 568 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,599 another way. I was kind of lucky I got to 569 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,000 practice uh at a at a country club that that 570 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,480 was had very very little traffic. So I was just 571 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,880 able to go out virtually about any time of day 572 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:17,599 and and be able to do it and there'll only 573 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,640 be a few people on the course. That's that's a 574 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:23,160 kind of an unusual situation. But that's nice when you 575 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,440 can have that. Yeah, and then beyond that, you know, 576 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,920 I heard some guys would just play regular golf and 577 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,240 then they'd go out and and do their run separated. 578 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,559 Speaker 1: Two different games though, right right, really, how do you 579 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:41,400 I mean that's not training for a competition like that. 580 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:42,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. 581 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: A few times I went out and I ran I 582 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:58,559 did uh jogs with my bag, just regular city jogs. 583 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: I live in the city, so I would just go out. 584 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: And jog with my bag, jog you know, three hundred 585 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,880 yards stop with the bag down, Yes, for ten seconds. 586 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,119 Speaker 4: It looked kind of funny. 587 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking about driving down the street and there's 588 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,279 you know, I see joggers all the time. There's jogger 589 00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:20,359 with a golf bag. It's like it's a matter about 590 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,519 did you lose your ball? 591 00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:25,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got some funny looks. 592 00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Well, let's wrap this up with 593 00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,400 what the tips you know? I mean, you just got 594 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,599 into this, You trained for two months, and all of 595 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,279 a sudden you're in the World Championships. Obviously, I don't 596 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,960 want to this isn't a derogatory statement, but there can't 597 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,559 be a ton of competition if you can, you know, 598 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,119 just in that amount of time be part of the 599 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,759 World Championships. You did get a chance to practice on 600 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:52,440 that course ahead of time, didn't you. 601 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like a normal tournament we had. 602 00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: The tournament itself was two rounds on Saturday and Sunday, 603 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,720 so they let us have practice rounds on Thursday and Friday. 604 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:08,199 Speaker 1: What can you share with us? What tips would you like? Okay, 605 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,039 I didn't know this going in, but now that I 606 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,760 know it, let me tell you. Here's what you need 607 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,159 to know if you want to get into speed golf. 608 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: Well, if you want to get in to speak golf 609 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:24,760 you and be competitive, you probably need to be able 610 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,679 to shoot shoot around par on a regular round of golf, 611 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,079 and you probably need to be able to run five 612 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,800 miles under forty minutes. 613 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,679 Speaker 4: So if you can do. 614 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:41,559 Speaker 3: That, then you have a chance at being fairly competitive. 615 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:46,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you had no aha moment, no epiphany about 616 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,239 the whole thing that you were doing. It's like, oh, shoot, 617 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,280 I wish I would have known that. I mean shoes, 618 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,320 you're wearing normal golf shoes. 619 00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 3: That's one thing that's different. Well, most of us will 620 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,400 wear running shoes because that's a little bit things are 621 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,480 to run in those. Yeah, but a lot of it 622 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:09,159 was was just learning on the fly. Some guys well 623 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:11,199 actually a lot of the guys were wearing rain gloves 624 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,599 because your hands start sweating. 625 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 626 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 4: So even though you know it's. 627 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: Not raining, your hands are getting soap, so you don't 628 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,360 want your hands to slip on the and you don't 629 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,559 have time to change gloves. So guys will just wear 630 00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:27,639 rain gloves. That's that's one. Guys will wear running shoes. 631 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,800 The bags that we use are special carry bags. They're 632 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,800 they're kind of like a half bag that you can 633 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,360 grab in one hand and run with. 634 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,199 Speaker 4: Those. Those are useful. 635 00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:46,039 Speaker 1: But you know, a bandon is not because it's on 636 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:49,199 the coast. It's on the Oregon coast and it's generally 637 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,960 foggy and windy and moist at the very least. Did 638 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,280 you have any issues with slipping in your swing because 639 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,519 you're wearing you're not wearing any cleats at all. 640 00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:02,639 Speaker 3: No, I didn't. Maybe other people did, but I didn't. 641 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:03,559 Speaker 1: But fascinating. 642 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: You know, maybe you've heard about guys practicing in their 643 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,239 bare feet or I think playing in running shoes also, 644 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,440 at least for me, it helps me make a more 645 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,480 controlled imbalance swing, because if you're swinging all over the place, 646 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:24,320 you'll slip and lose your balance. 647 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,199 Speaker 4: So playing in the running shoes was actually not a problem. 648 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: And I think actually for me it made me makes 649 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,599 me swing a little bit better because. 650 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,639 Speaker 4: I have to swing in control. 651 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: You have to be in balance. 652 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 4: Right. 653 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,559 Speaker 1: Well, hey man, thank you so much for letting me 654 00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:41,880 know that you were involved in this. You were right. 655 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,199 This is a great topic for golf Smarter. And again, 656 00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:49,480 if anybody is interested in seeing what Jacob's doing on 657 00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,840 his website in his not only you know the speed golf, 658 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,559 but also his swing speed training, you should check out 659 00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:02,239 swingmangolf dot com. Jacob, congratulations being the fifth best speed 660 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,480 golf person in the world for twenty twelve. Thanks, that's 661 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:11,280 pretty awesome if it's an honor with you, sir. 662 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:18,519 Speaker 3: If people want to watch this, the CBS was actually 663 00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:19,599 there filming the event. 664 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: Oh cool. 665 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:27,039 Speaker 3: And they're going to air a thirty minute documentary special 666 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,079 on the Speed Golf World Championships before the third round 667 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,079 of the upcoming Masters. 668 00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: So there's for the twenty thirteen Masters. 669 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,559 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so if you'd like to watch it and 670 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,360 just kind of see who these crazy people are running 671 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,000 around the golf course and were. 672 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: You Were you interviewed by these guys by CBS. 673 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, since I was one of the guys in contention, 674 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,760 I was pulled away and interviewed and I didn't. 675 00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 4: In the last day. 676 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 3: I even though I knew I wasn't quite playing my 677 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,880 best golf wise, I knew I was in contention because 678 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,800 the last three holes I had the cameras following me 679 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,840 on the cart so. 680 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: Wow, because they couldn't run and keep up with you. 681 00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, cart right right. 682 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 3: So you know, I don't know how it'll turn out, 683 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,199 but I'm really curious to see what I think it 684 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:19,599 should be. 685 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 4: Really cool Bandon. It's a great place speak alf. 686 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 3: A lot of fun that the people that get involved 687 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,119 with it are really great people. 688 00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to everybody. 689 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: Mark your calendars now for the Saturday of the Masters 690 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,719 before broadcast to watch the thirty minute documentary special on 691 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,360 the World Speed Golf the Speed Golf World Championships, and 692 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,079 check out Jacob Bowden in there. Jacob, thanks so much 693 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:50,199 for coming back on the show and congratulations again. 694 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. Thanks, it's always fun. 695 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kat had to get into the show. 696 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 4: Huh, sorry about that. 697 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's time once again for the score Zone Short 698 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,800 Game Academy with our wedge guy, Terry Taylor. 699 00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 7: Welcome back, Terry, Hi friend, it's really nice to be 700 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,239 back on with you. 701 00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for coming back on. Because here 702 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,960 on the score Zone Short Game Academy, what we do 703 00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:28,159 is ask the audience to send in a question about 704 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:31,719 their short game and they go to Golfsmarter dot com, 705 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,679 click on the score Zone Short Game Academy button, submit 706 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:40,400 a question, and if you choose their question, you award 707 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,559 them with two things, actually three things. First, they get 708 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,920 a Golf Smarter divot tool, the world's greatest divot tool. Second, 709 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,960 they get a club of their choice customized for them, 710 00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:55,119 a score forty one sixty one scoring club. And third 711 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,960 they get the answer to the question from the Wedge Guy. 712 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,480 So it's a great deal all around, and I think 713 00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:04,719 it's a lot of fun. I've learned a lot and 714 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,639 we actually got a question in this time that I 715 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:11,719 am really glad somebody asked, because it's something that plagues 716 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,440 my game every single round, at least multiple times. And 717 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,559 this one comes from Joshua Smit and he's in Lake Crystal, Minnesota, 718 00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:23,239 and he says, I'm a high handicap golfer in the 719 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,559 mid twenty range, and I've been trying to work on 720 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:28,639 my short game. One thing that has always hurt me 721 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,480 is when I'm around fifteen yards or less to the 722 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:34,400 green and I don't get under the ball and it 723 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,559 goes flying across the green. This has made me nervous 724 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,800 when I'm using my low lofted clubs, especially the lob wedge. 725 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,440 So he wants to get any advice he can, and again, 726 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,320 this is something that I've worked on so many times. 727 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,360 I've had video tips that I've worked on, I've done, 728 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,000 I've done full show episodes about this, and it's the 729 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:59,039 kind of thing that the only time I lose my 730 00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,639 temper on the golf is when I do one of 731 00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:03,639 these and scull it, you know, take a nice easy 732 00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:06,880 shot and it skulls and just flies across the green 733 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,079 ends up in the bunker on the other side. So 734 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:12,039 please help me O be one. 735 00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 7: Joshua, you have what we call wedge elepsy, and it 736 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,159 really because you've hit some bad shots. Now you're very 737 00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:25,280 anxious when you hit that shot. Now. I know you 738 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,960 won't see this, Joshua as an advantage, but the fact 739 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,480 that you live in Minnesota and you won't see grass 740 00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:34,840 for five or six months, it's going to give you 741 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,039 an opportunity to fix your wedge ellipsy because it is 742 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:43,280 a curable disease. But what happens here is I think 743 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,079 the key and I'm a literal guy, and I'm reading 744 00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,960 you reading your note here, and it says I don't 745 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,599 get under the ball. So what it appears to me, Joshua, 746 00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:55,679 you're probably trying to do is help that ball in 747 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,360 the air. And you're hitting up on the ball with 748 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,000 the only way you can hit up on the ball, 749 00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,920 because there is a planet Earth right under it. The 750 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,480 only way you can hit up on the ball is 751 00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,159 to let that clubhead get ahead of your hands through 752 00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:10,920 the impact area, and you catch that ball right in 753 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,400 the eyebrows or the forehead as we say, and it 754 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,480 goes flying across the green as you described. So I'm 755 00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,280 going to give you a winter drill and all you 756 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,159 other guys that are lucky enough to live in the 757 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,639 in the South and you go out to the grass 758 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,719 and hit and do. 759 00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:28,079 Speaker 1: This, and all those in Australia who are just getting 760 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:28,960 their season started. 761 00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I forgot you guys down under. 762 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 4: You. 763 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 7: I was just in Zeeland a few months ago, so 764 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,239 wonderful blake. But anyway, so when you're hitting your short 765 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,840 shots around the green, there's three keys you have to 766 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,559 zero in on. The first key is slow down everything. 767 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,920 Forget this accelerate through the ball thing. Forget all of 768 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,519 that and work in slow motion. This is like driving 769 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:54,320 in a parking lot. You're going to be very careful. 770 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,800 You're moving very slow and you're maneuvering your car into 771 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,639 a parking spot. And I talked about this in one 772 00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:02,199 of our previous podcasts. Go slow when you're around the green. 773 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,880 That's the first key. The second key is the back 774 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,119 of your left hand has to pass the ball from 775 00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:13,800 where you're looking at it before the clubhead gets to 776 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,679 the ball. So you're leading, you're leading your hands through 777 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,199 the impact zone before that clubhead gets there. Because what 778 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,639 causes you to hit that ball right in the forehead 779 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,880 or the eyebrows. As we talk about is stop your 780 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,000 hands and you scoop at it, and you take your 781 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,360 right hand and you try to help that ball into 782 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,400 the air. What you actually do is changing the arc 783 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,440 of the swing, and that clubhead is moving upward. Well, 784 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,519 you can't move upward if the ball is sitting on 785 00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:45,320 the earth and still get under it. So you hit 786 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,400 that ball right in the forehead or right in the eyebrows, 787 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,000 as I said, and it scoots across the green as 788 00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:55,280 you describe. So the first hip is keep your tempo 789 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,159 very slow. Practice hitting shots as slow as you can 790 00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:03,039 possibly swing golf club That allows you to focus on 791 00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:05,800 your technique of making sure your left side and your 792 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,719 left hand and your left arm, all of those things 793 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,559 are getting past the golf ball before the clubhead gets 794 00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:15,119 to the golf ball. That's very key. And the third 795 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,280 thing is focus on the forward edge of the golf 796 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,800 ball and not the back of the ball, not a 797 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,480 spot behind the ball. Focus on the forward edge and 798 00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:28,119 make sure you just take your little, soft, delicate swing 799 00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,400 and slow motion and you go through the golf ball, 800 00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:35,440 not at the golf ball, and have a stroke, have 801 00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:39,400 a swing, not a hit, and don't let yourself get 802 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,639 so ball conscious. What happens is when we make a 803 00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:46,079 bad contact, whether it's a skull or a chunk or whatever, 804 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,599 when we have a bad contact, we become very ball conscious, 805 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:52,280 and we start letting our focus flow away from the 806 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,800 swing or the stroke we're trying to make, and we 807 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,880 start focusing on the golf ball. When you do that, 808 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,199 you pinch your fingers of your right hand or going 809 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,760 to take over trying to guide that clubhead to proper contact. 810 00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:07,840 Trust your left side, trust your lead, trust your swing, 811 00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:11,920 and while you're indoors this winner, set you up a 812 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,280 sheet out in the garage or down in the basement 813 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,280 or in your den, and just chip golf ball after 814 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,800 golf ball after golf ball until you're so confident you 815 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,760 can make proper contact that when you get out on 816 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,039 the grass in April or May, this will be gone. 817 00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:28,760 This little affliction you have will be gone and you'll 818 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,519 be in wedge elypsy remission. 819 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:40,639 Speaker 1: Weedg elepsy. But let's I want to dig deeper on 820 00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:44,159 this only because I do have this affliction as well, 821 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,599 and I know that there's there's a confidence thing that 822 00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:49,320 goes on with it that I'm like, oh God, I 823 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,280 don't want this shot. That's why for me, I'm not 824 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,119 one to hit the ball as far as I can, 825 00:45:56,159 --> 00:46:00,400 because I would I'm much more comfortable being one hundred 826 00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:02,440 yards or one hundred and twenty yards out that I 827 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,159 am being sixty yards out right. I don't want to 828 00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,199 be in that range where I have to half swings 829 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:10,199 and things like that, because that's when it gets into 830 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,639 my head. So I definitely start walking up to it 831 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:18,239 and start getting nervous about it. Help me though, with 832 00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:22,800 my body position, my balance and the stroke itself. You know. 833 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,679 Some have said it's just like a putting stroke that 834 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,639 we want to do. Others have said, make sure that 835 00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,039 your weight is on the left, on your left foot 836 00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:33,480 for a right handed golfer, so your weight is leaning forward. 837 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,159 Speaker 7: All right, let's outline some basics both for both of 838 00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:40,519 you guys, because I got two wedge ellipsy sufferers here, 839 00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:42,320 and there's probably a whole bunch of you other guys 840 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,440 out there that your closet edge ellipsy sufferers. I've been 841 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,519 there myself. Posture and setup is very important when you're 842 00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,199 hitting a short shot. Your weight needs to be about 843 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,960 seventy percent on your left side. You're not doing a 844 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,719 lot of lower body movement in that short stroke. Your 845 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,559 backstroke is a shoulder turn and you want to feel 846 00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,280 like and I think I advise this in a podcast 847 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,920 one or two times ago about what. Go find videos 848 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,760 on YouTube a steel stricker and you'll see very few 849 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,159 moving parts. The hands and the shoulders go back, your 850 00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:16,519 hands and the shoulders go through. It all looks like 851 00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:20,599 one moving part. Manage your golf swing with your body core, 852 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,719 not your wrists, and not your hands. This will help 853 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,360 you in making solid contact. And it is much more 854 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,559 like a putting stroke. It's like a grandfather clock, just 855 00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:34,960 back and through, back and through, and it's a very 856 00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:38,519 rhythmic tempo. It's not a hit at the ball. It's 857 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:40,480 a stroke, and you think of it as a long 858 00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:43,679 putting stroke. And if you hit that pitch shot like 859 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,440 one hundred and twenty foot lag put if you're on 860 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,079 some big golf course with big giant greens, grip the 861 00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:55,199 club lightly, particularly with the pincher fingers, the thumb and 862 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,679 the two fingers of your right hand, because that's where 863 00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,239 we're going to engage our right hand coordination. In our 864 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,719 I hand coordination. Grip the club very lightly in those 865 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,960 pincher fingers, because grip tension is the killer on the shot. 866 00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:11,599 If you're holding the club very lightly, Fred and Joshua, 867 00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:15,599 you cannot swing quickly with a lighthold on the golf club. 868 00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:19,360 It just doesn't. You can't do it. So lighten your grip, 869 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,039 slow down your pace, set your posture with your weight 870 00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:26,079 on your left side, and think about pulling the club through. 871 00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:28,400 I talked to him again. I'm going back to repeating myself, 872 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,519 but I talked to another podcast about you've got a 873 00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:33,840 linkage here. You've got a golf club. You've got a 874 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,119 linkage at your wrists, at your elbow, and at your shoulder. 875 00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,199 You've got three places this thing can hinge. So you 876 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,400 have an essential in essence, four links of a chain. 877 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,719 So what you want to do is pull a chain. 878 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,599 You can't push a chain right, So you pull the 879 00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,639 club through the ball. And if you do that, the 880 00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:53,199 club head is going to be the last thing to 881 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,639 the golf ball. The ball is positioned just back of center, 882 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,960 you have an narrow stance, you waits a little on 883 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,800 your left side. What you want to focus on is 884 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,719 a rhythmic, smooth, effortless stroke of the club rather than 885 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,639 a swing or a hit, particularly not a hit. 886 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,280 Speaker 1: Awesome, great, thanks Terry. Listen before we go, I have 887 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,519 this idea that I would like to do upcoming on 888 00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:22,480 our next members only episode. I would like to invite 889 00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:25,440 you to come back on and let's go through. You know, 890 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,239 we've been getting so many questions and obviously you can't 891 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,760 answer all of them, but maybe we can pick a couple. 892 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,280 And I'm sorry, it's going to be up to Terry 893 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,440 and his marketing crew whether these people get a free 894 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,719 web scoring club or not. But how about if we 895 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,199 pick two or three questions and we do a member's 896 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,519 only episode on the next episode. Could you come back 897 00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:44,760 for that? 898 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 7: No, that'd be great, love to do that. We'll do 899 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,639 a little deeper dive into some questions that take a 900 00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:53,119 little more time and hopefully give your guys some real value. 901 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:01,239 SA