Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, And for this week of July fourteenth,
Speaker 2: we are continuing with Duster Episode eight, the finale. It
Speaker 2: was called sixty six Reno Split, and boy was there
Speaker 2: just every single person motivated by parent, child, loyalty or love,
Speaker 2: like literally all of yes, yes, I mean.
Speaker 3: That that was the entire Here you go, every is
Speaker 3: going to ever is going to die or kill someone
Speaker 3: or do something because of their parent or child.
Speaker 4: Yeah everyone, Yeah, Yeah, that was the motivation.
Speaker 2: Everyone except Billy Weasel and Fed Weasel. That's right, we're
Speaker 2: we're motivated by this parental concerns.
Speaker 1: But yes, although who knows, we don't know what they're
Speaker 1: with their backstory, is that's true?
Speaker 4: Maybe they have Yeah, I even.
Speaker 2: Have time to get to that.
Speaker 1: Because the union boss was not motivated by was motivated
Speaker 1: more by fear of his wife apparently, then yes, that's true. Child,
Speaker 1: But and yeah, it's hard not to watch this after
Speaker 1: having heard that it has been canceled or not renewed
Speaker 1: for the next season. They were busily setting up all
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff for next season, and honestly, I enjoyed
Speaker 1: this season a lot. But looking at the stuff they
Speaker 1: were setting up. Yeah, I don't need to see the
Speaker 1: Easy has cancer arc. I didn't need to see the
Speaker 1: Jim's brother is really the mysterious Xavier and he's still
Speaker 1: alive and he's involved in Watergates somehow.
Speaker 4: Don't need to see that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't even need to meet the guy they called
Speaker 1: mad Raoul. I am just good. This was an entertaining
Speaker 1: season of television. I don't need to see Royce try
Speaker 1: to take over the business. Yeah, I don't need to
Speaker 1: see Nina being Agent of the Month and everybody loving
Speaker 1: her now because the bad guys are gone.
Speaker 4: Just we're done here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean they did, they did all that
Speaker 2: setup of all these things to do in season two,
Speaker 2: but they didn't leave a lot of like cliffhangers for
Speaker 2: what had happened in this season, which was good.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, that thing, the Izzy thing, was a cliffhanger,
Speaker 2: but also you could just pretend that never happened.
Speaker 4: Because you could.
Speaker 2: It was the first we've ever Let's do that, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I mean it's like, oh, really, this is this
Speaker 2: is news to me, So I'm just.
Speaker 4: Gonna ye Oh goodness. Yeah, it was. It was a
Speaker 4: lot and do we really?
Speaker 1: I had I had credulity problems with Jim's dad. Is
Speaker 1: gonna shoot Genesis just point blank while they're enjoying a
Speaker 1: cocktail together, right, I mean he was, he had his
Speaker 1: hand on the gun. I guess he was going to
Speaker 1: do it, but fortunately did not have to. But that
Speaker 1: seemed pretty much any other character in this thing I
Speaker 1: would buy.
Speaker 4: I mean even his wife.
Speaker 1: I could see her coming in there and saying, oh
Speaker 1: you need her dad, Okay, But I just didn't feel
Speaker 1: like the dad had it in him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he went soft in this old age.
Speaker 4: It just seems too nice.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, nothing personally against Genesis. If she
Speaker 1: was somebody who had been like, had a part in
Speaker 1: his son's death, well, which turns out to not have happened,
Speaker 1: but you know, if he had some gripe but just
Speaker 1: to do it too, because Sacks killed his son's eye. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that seemed like a week point in a week's pot plan.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: And also if you're gym and you know your dad
Speaker 1: was going to kill this person at five o'clock and
Speaker 1: it's full do you drive over there or do you
Speaker 1: pick up the dang phone? What the hell is exactly? Oh,
Speaker 1: I got plenty of time. The old man's probably gonna
Speaker 1: have another drink before he shoots. Right, it's fine. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of traffic, but I'm sure it'll be okay.
Speaker 1: Dang red light.
Speaker 4: I hope this doesn't pause a.
Speaker 2: Problem, right, Just yeah, I mean it was like you
Speaker 2: said about lost yesterday. You know, Juliet clocked that Jack
Speaker 2: wouldn't actually, you know, hurt a patient on purpose. And
Speaker 2: I can see how what was the name Wade, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the dad would would struggle with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. The whole thing was just that
Speaker 1: whole shootout. Was it just just a cavalcade of violence? Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean pretty much everybody is getting killed. And you know,
Speaker 1: Sax was such a figure in this season. To not
Speaker 1: have him, I don't know who fills that void in
Speaker 1: the theoretical next season which never came, which came, but
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be Rice.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I did enjoy that they kind of had when everything
Speaker 1: was going down and he was like was not coming
Speaker 1: from his nose.
Speaker 4: I'm like, this man is not a crime boss.
Speaker 3: It's like, we'll get him a new heart, right, Like,
Speaker 3: oh buddy, No, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd buy his sister killing him more than i'd
Speaker 1: buy Wade killing her.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's just I just yeah, no.
Speaker 2: Maybe Keith David was unavailable for maybe next season that
Speaker 2: he was way apart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the show loses sort of a
Speaker 1: weight without him. It just would have to be necessarily
Speaker 1: a little more slapstick and yeah, just.
Speaker 2: Okay, And and then just going back to to Izzy,
Speaker 2: like when she says he's not just an oncologist, he's
Speaker 2: my uncologist, Like, well, that's not ethical nor.
Speaker 5: Patience, Like, no, that's not okay, Yeah no, that was
Speaker 5: that was a ham handed way to give us that information.
Speaker 1: It absolutely was and letely unnecessary. Yeah, totally just just
Speaker 1: like they're just throwing everything in there at the end
Speaker 1: and yeah.
Speaker 4: No, thank you.
Speaker 2: Desperate. I mean, if they knew they weren't going to
Speaker 2: have a season two, then he could have just been like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm going to peace out to Mexico for a while,
Speaker 2: but I'll be back, you know at some point when
Speaker 2: when things cool down, and you wouldn't have to have
Speaker 2: this whole like, oh, he's got to stay. We got
Speaker 2: to find a reason for him to stay. So but
Speaker 2: then they gave him another reason because they gave the
Speaker 2: whole Oh, your brother's still alive, and Nina is like
Speaker 2: I need you. And meanwhile, like you said, like three
Speaker 2: episodes ago, everyone has seen her and knows that she's
Speaker 2: a federal agent, and now everyone knows that Jim was
Speaker 2: working with her. So how the two of them are
Speaker 2: going to do anything? Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just well, but everybody think through your plans
Speaker 1: dead at this point, so.
Speaker 2: Well, true, I think through your think through your plans
Speaker 2: before you announce them to the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, just just.
Speaker 1: The way they just kept biling stuff odd and I
Speaker 1: mean they lost me before they got to Oh, Jim's brother,
Speaker 1: he's still alive and he's involved in this hole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like the mastermind in this whole tape and watergate thing. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys stop stop stop?
Speaker 2: Oh well, yes, and I do not the number of
Speaker 2: next season, yeah, the number of times that tape changed hands.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, for goodness sake, in the end, we're.
Speaker 2: Supposed to believe that it's with the the two Mexican guys.
Speaker 2: It's going to mad Roouel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thankfully we will never meet.
Speaker 4: I have not even in the least been interested.
Speaker 1: However, I noticed I don't know, maybe there's a parenting
Speaker 1: tip in here somewhere. But she's running around like out
Speaker 1: in the desert, trying to get away from the guy who's.
Speaker 2: Going to kill her with the high heeled boots on.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, First, she's trying to get out of the like
Speaker 1: the chain from behind her back to the front and
Speaker 1: she's got like five inch heels that she has to
Speaker 1: wrestle them over.
Speaker 4: It's like kick off the handcuffs. Can you get the
Speaker 4: boots off? And it's just.
Speaker 1: Take I guess she can't take them off. She has
Speaker 1: you know, she's handcuffed y out well, and also that
Speaker 1: she would then be barefoot or nylon stocking footed.
Speaker 4: But still, this is.
Speaker 1: Why we wear practical footwear when we go into our
Speaker 1: work as a federal agent, because he may be needing
Speaker 1: to I don't know, run or but if you're going
Speaker 1: to wear those when the guy is pursuing, you kick
Speaker 1: him with them, use them as a weapon. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be running around in them, you can
Speaker 1: do some damage with that heel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, agreed.
Speaker 4: I wound up dead anyway.
Speaker 1: That guy was not good at his job in any way.
Speaker 1: Not only was I was doing something illegal, but also
Speaker 1: his facial expressions give him away. I mean a one
Speaker 1: could tell from across the room. Oh yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: follow him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's bad news.
Speaker 1: Cleaning lady saw him going through draors, so he's not
Speaker 1: particularly covert. And you know, he did not get the
Speaker 1: job done at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: No, sure didn't.
Speaker 1: And I was surprised that Billy just left her out there.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't he have been like hung around to make sure
Speaker 1: that the exchange was made.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well he was mad because he I'll just in the desert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because well it wasn't somebody was coming to Yeah.
Speaker 1: If he had stayed out there with her, he would
Speaker 1: not have gotten shot in the eye and killed. So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, sometimes you want to see
Speaker 1: the job through yes, of us seeing through you, because there.
Speaker 2: Was there's a hole right through your head.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That that a lot going on there.
Speaker 2: Well, we have to have either a fistfight and or
Speaker 2: a shootout in every episode.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, So in the end, Nina is a hero. She's
Speaker 1: cleaned out the bureau.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So we'll just end on that note of success. That's right,
Speaker 1: which a next season would have had to claw back
Speaker 1: in some way.
Speaker 2: So she's still underdog, right, but well she's up against
Speaker 2: Nixon in the next one.
Speaker 4: And also Xavier, who is oh Jim's brother.
Speaker 1: Oh no, after all, the whole season was all about
Speaker 1: the death of the brother, avenging the death of the brother,
Speaker 1: figuring out who's to blame for the death of the brother.
Speaker 4: Oh did we say he was dead? No, he's done?
Speaker 2: No, No, no, never mind, Yeah, not that right, Well,
Speaker 2: are we ready to change venues?
Speaker 1: Do we need to do any more parenting tips or
Speaker 1: any parenting tips other than.
Speaker 2: Just wear sensible shoes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a parenting tip. Parents, tell your daughter
Speaker 1: those heels. May you may like the way those heels look,
Speaker 1: but what if you're running through a desert, what if
Speaker 1: you're having to do like.
Speaker 4: Those are not practical?
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are never a good idea. And uh, just
Speaker 1: you know, as we mentioned, there was almost all the
Speaker 1: motivations in this thing where parents protecting kids, kids protecting parents,
Speaker 1: or avenge avenging parents, And I mean I think Sacks
Speaker 1: and Jim specifically had discussion about, you know, not putting
Speaker 1: your kid in danger, and so parenting tip wise, think
Speaker 1: about the dangers you put your kids in the situations.
Speaker 1: In our cases, it wouldn't be that sort of danger,
Speaker 1: but it would be you know, you say the wrong
Speaker 1: thing to the wrong person, and yeah, definitely the kid
Speaker 1: is in an awkward space, or you make your kid
Speaker 1: too much a part of your personal drama and then
Speaker 1: they found they have to stand up for you, defend you,
Speaker 1: do things to help you, and that never works out
Speaker 1: well either. So try to parent in such a way
Speaker 1: that it doesn't end in a bloody shootout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good advice. Yes, I mean, try to avoid
Speaker 2: the ridiculous drama in the first place. But then if
Speaker 2: there is ridiculous drama, don't get the kids involved in it.
Speaker 4: Keep the kids out of it.
Speaker 2: Don't let them stow away in your try of your
Speaker 2: car when you're meeting with shadowy figures.
Speaker 4: And you know, also.
Speaker 1: Don't let your kid drag you into their drama. Like
Speaker 1: if your son says, hey, I'm in a fix and
Speaker 1: somebody might kill me, could you go and kill their
Speaker 1: kid afterwards? That's necessary, you know, you just want to
Speaker 1: say no, I have plans. I'm just going to stay home.
Speaker 1: Just don't avoid the drama if it all possible, avoid
Speaker 1: creating your own, avoid getting caught up in other people's
Speaker 1: and teach your child to do the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and agree, I have to just enjoy their day.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, there will be no television if we do.
Speaker 4: That's true, but.
Speaker 2: For real life, it's it's a way to go.
Speaker 1: And also, maybe we've talked here before about if you
Speaker 1: are if you have a major thing like an illness,
Speaker 1: how do you talk to your kid about it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Because he maybe could take some lessons in that, and
Speaker 1: also I don't know about their parentage.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe not so much with the big family.
Speaker 2: Sits right, which always gonna backfire.
Speaker 1: Eventually, season wheel backfire, yes, right, but we don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about that because this show's gone.
Speaker 4: Good luck y'all. So what are we doing?
Speaker 1: We have a nice uh, nice calm show to watch next.
Speaker 1: No drama, no skullduggery, no people playing people against other people,
Speaker 1: well nothing but but romantic fidelity.
Speaker 4: Right, that's what we got next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going back to New York in the eighteen eighties,
Speaker 2: otherwise known as the opera Wars or the show for
Speaker 2: Broadway Stars on TV. Yes, it is the Guilded Age. Yes,
Speaker 2: so this is season three. It's it's been on a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks behind, but we are. We had to
Speaker 2: finish dulsturfirst, So we are going to start season three
Speaker 2: next week with episode one. Speaking of parenting, the title
Speaker 2: is who is in Charge here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, so probably no shootouts, but.
Speaker 1: A lot of backstabbing for sure, yes, and social and
Speaker 1: social annihilation mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we'll see you here for that next Wednesday
Speaker 2: and tomorrow we will be back with our Roundabout Roundup.
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