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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, And for this week of July fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we are continuing with Duster Episode eight, the finale. It

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<v Speaker 2>was called sixty six Reno Split, and boy was there

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<v Speaker 2>just every single person motivated by parent, child, loyalty or love,

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<v Speaker 2>like literally all of yes, yes, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That that was the entire Here you go, every is

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<v Speaker 3>going to ever is going to die or kill someone

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<v Speaker 3>or do something because of their parent or child.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah everyone, Yeah, Yeah, that was the motivation.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone except Billy Weasel and Fed Weasel. That's right, we're

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<v Speaker 2>we're motivated by this parental concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, although who knows, we don't know what they're

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<v Speaker 1>with their backstory, is that's true?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they have Yeah, I even.

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<v Speaker 2>Have time to get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the union boss was not motivated by was motivated

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<v Speaker 1>more by fear of his wife apparently, then yes, that's true. Child,

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<v Speaker 1>But and yeah, it's hard not to watch this after

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<v Speaker 1>having heard that it has been canceled or not renewed

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<v Speaker 1>for the next season. They were busily setting up all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of stuff for next season, and honestly, I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>this season a lot. But looking at the stuff they

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<v Speaker 1>were setting up. Yeah, I don't need to see the

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<v Speaker 1>Easy has cancer arc. I didn't need to see the

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<v Speaker 1>Jim's brother is really the mysterious Xavier and he's still

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<v Speaker 1>alive and he's involved in Watergates somehow.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't need to see that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even need to meet the guy they called

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<v Speaker 1>mad Raoul. I am just good. This was an entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>season of television. I don't need to see Royce try

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<v Speaker 1>to take over the business. Yeah, I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>see Nina being Agent of the Month and everybody loving

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<v Speaker 1>her now because the bad guys are gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Just we're done here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean they did, they did all that

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<v Speaker 2>setup of all these things to do in season two,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't leave a lot of like cliffhangers for

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<v Speaker 2>what had happened in this season, which was good.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, that thing, the Izzy thing, was a cliffhanger,

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<v Speaker 2>but also you could just pretend that never happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you could.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the first we've ever Let's do that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean it's like, oh, really, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is news to me, So I'm just.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna ye Oh goodness. Yeah, it was. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>lot and do we really?

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<v Speaker 1>I had I had credulity problems with Jim's dad. Is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna shoot Genesis just point blank while they're enjoying a

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail together, right, I mean he was, he had his

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<v Speaker 1>hand on the gun. I guess he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but fortunately did not have to. But that

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<v Speaker 1>seemed pretty much any other character in this thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would buy.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean even his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see her coming in there and saying, oh

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<v Speaker 1>you need her dad, Okay, But I just didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the dad had it in him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he went soft in this old age.

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<v Speaker 4>It just seems too nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you know, nothing personally against Genesis. If she

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<v Speaker 1>was somebody who had been like, had a part in

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<v Speaker 1>his son's death, well, which turns out to not have happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, if he had some gripe but just

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<v Speaker 1>to do it too, because Sacks killed his son's eye. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed like a week point in a week's pot plan.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And also if you're gym and you know your dad

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<v Speaker 1>was going to kill this person at five o'clock and

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<v Speaker 1>it's full do you drive over there or do you

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<v Speaker 1>pick up the dang phone? What the hell is exactly? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got plenty of time. The old man's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have another drink before he shoots. Right, it's fine. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of traffic, but I'm sure it'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Dang red light.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope this doesn't pause a.

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<v Speaker 2>Problem, right, Just yeah, I mean it was like you

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<v Speaker 2>said about lost yesterday. You know, Juliet clocked that Jack

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't actually, you know, hurt a patient on purpose. And

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<v Speaker 2>I can see how what was the name Wade, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the dad would would struggle with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. The whole thing was just that

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<v Speaker 1>whole shootout. Was it just just a cavalcade of violence? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean pretty much everybody is getting killed. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Sax was such a figure in this season. To not

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<v Speaker 1>have him, I don't know who fills that void in

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<v Speaker 1>the theoretical next season which never came, which came, but

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't gonna be Rice.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I did enjoy that they kind of had when everything

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<v Speaker 1>was going down and he was like was not coming

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<v Speaker 1>from his nose.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this man is not a crime boss.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, we'll get him a new heart, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh buddy, No, no, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd buy his sister killing him more than i'd

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<v Speaker 1>buy Wade killing her.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's just I just yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Keith David was unavailable for maybe next season that

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<v Speaker 2>he was way apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that the show loses sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>weight without him. It just would have to be necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>a little more slapstick and yeah, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And and then just going back to to Izzy,

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<v Speaker 2>like when she says he's not just an oncologist, he's

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<v Speaker 2>my uncologist, Like, well, that's not ethical nor.

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<v Speaker 5>Patience, Like, no, that's not okay, Yeah no, that was

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<v Speaker 5>that was a ham handed way to give us that information.

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<v Speaker 1>It absolutely was and letely unnecessary. Yeah, totally just just

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<v Speaker 1>like they're just throwing everything in there at the end

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Desperate. I mean, if they knew they weren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a season two, then he could have just been like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to peace out to Mexico for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll be back, you know at some point when

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<v Speaker 2>when things cool down, and you wouldn't have to have

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<v Speaker 2>this whole like, oh, he's got to stay. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to find a reason for him to stay. So but

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<v Speaker 2>then they gave him another reason because they gave the

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<v Speaker 2>whole Oh, your brother's still alive, and Nina is like

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<v Speaker 2>I need you. And meanwhile, like you said, like three

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<v Speaker 2>episodes ago, everyone has seen her and knows that she's

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<v Speaker 2>a federal agent, and now everyone knows that Jim was

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<v Speaker 2>working with her. So how the two of them are

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<v Speaker 2>going to do anything? Yeah, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just well, but everybody think through your plans

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<v Speaker 1>dead at this point, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, true, I think through your think through your plans

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<v Speaker 2>before you announce them to the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and uh, just just.

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<v Speaker 1>The way they just kept biling stuff odd and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they lost me before they got to Oh, Jim's brother,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still alive and he's involved in this hole. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like the mastermind in this whole tape and watergate thing. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys stop stop stop?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, yes, and I do not the number of

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<v Speaker 2>next season, yeah, the number of times that tape changed hands.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, for goodness sake, in the end, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposed to believe that it's with the the two Mexican guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to mad Roouel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, thankfully we will never meet.

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<v Speaker 4>I have not even in the least been interested.

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<v Speaker 1>However, I noticed I don't know, maybe there's a parenting

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<v Speaker 1>tip in here somewhere. But she's running around like out

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<v Speaker 1>in the desert, trying to get away from the guy who's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to kill her with the high heeled boots on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, First, she's trying to get out of the like

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<v Speaker 1>the chain from behind her back to the front and

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<v Speaker 1>she's got like five inch heels that she has to

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<v Speaker 1>wrestle them over.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like kick off the handcuffs. Can you get the

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<v Speaker 4>boots off? And it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Take I guess she can't take them off. She has

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's handcuffed y out well, and also that

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<v Speaker 1>she would then be barefoot or nylon stocking footed.

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<v Speaker 4>But still, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Why we wear practical footwear when we go into our

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<v Speaker 1>work as a federal agent, because he may be needing

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<v Speaker 1>to I don't know, run or but if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to wear those when the guy is pursuing, you kick

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<v Speaker 1>him with them, use them as a weapon. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be running around in them, you can

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<v Speaker 1>do some damage with that heel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, agreed.

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<v Speaker 4>I wound up dead anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy was not good at his job in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only was I was doing something illegal, but also

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<v Speaker 1>his facial expressions give him away. I mean a one

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<v Speaker 1>could tell from across the room. Oh yeah, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>follow him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's he's bad news.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleaning lady saw him going through draors, so he's not

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<v Speaker 1>particularly covert. And you know, he did not get the

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<v Speaker 1>job done at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>No, sure didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was surprised that Billy just left her out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't he have been like hung around to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the exchange was made.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well he was mad because he I'll just in the desert.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because because well it wasn't somebody was coming to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If he had stayed out there with her, he would

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<v Speaker 1>not have gotten shot in the eye and killed. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you know, sometimes you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>the job through yes, of us seeing through you, because there.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there's a hole right through your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. That that a lot going on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have to have either a fistfight and or

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<v Speaker 2>a shootout in every episode.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So in the end, Nina is a hero. She's

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned out the bureau.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll just end on that note of success. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>which a next season would have had to claw back

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<v Speaker 1>in some way.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's still underdog, right, but well she's up against

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<v Speaker 2>Nixon in the next one.

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<v Speaker 4>And also Xavier, who is oh Jim's brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, after all, the whole season was all about

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<v Speaker 1>the death of the brother, avenging the death of the brother,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh did we say he was dead? No, he's done?

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<v Speaker 2>are we ready to change venues?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we need to do any more parenting tips or

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<v Speaker 1>any parenting tips other than.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wear sensible shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's a parenting tip. Parents, tell your daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim specifically had discussion about, you know, not putting

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<v Speaker 1>In our cases, it wouldn't be that sort of danger,

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<v Speaker 1>they found they have to stand up for you, defend you,

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<v Speaker 1>do things to help you, and that never works out

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<v Speaker 1>well either. So try to parent in such a way

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<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't end in a bloody shootout.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good advice. Yes, I mean, try to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>the ridiculous drama in the first place. But then if

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<v Speaker 2>there is ridiculous drama, don't get the kids involved in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep the kids out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't let them stow away in your try of your

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, also.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let your kid drag you into their drama. Like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody might kill me, could you go and kill their

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<v Speaker 1>kid afterwards? That's necessary, you know, you just want to

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't avoid the drama if it all possible, avoid

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<v Speaker 1>creating your own, avoid getting caught up in other people's

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and agree, I have to just enjoy their day.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, there will be no television if we do.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true, but.

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<v Speaker 2>For real life, it's it's a way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, maybe we've talked here before about if you

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<v Speaker 1>how do you talk to your kid about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he maybe could take some lessons in that, and

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<v Speaker 1>also I don't know about their parentage.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe not so much with the big family.

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<v Speaker 2>Sits right, which always gonna backfire.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, season wheel backfire, yes, right, but we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about that because this show's gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Good luck y'all. So what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>We have a nice uh, nice calm show to watch next.

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<v Speaker 1>No drama, no skullduggery, no people playing people against other people,

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<v Speaker 1>well nothing but but romantic fidelity.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, that's what we got next.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going back to New York in the eighteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise known as the opera Wars or the show for

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<v Speaker 2>Broadway Stars on TV. Yes, it is the Guilded Age. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is season three. It's it's been on a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks behind, but we are. We had to

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<v Speaker 2>finish dulsturfirst, So we are going to start season three

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<v Speaker 2>next week with episode one. Speaking of parenting, the title

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<v Speaker 2>is who is in Charge here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, so probably no shootouts, but.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of backstabbing for sure, yes, and social and

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<v Speaker 1>social annihilation mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So we'll see you here for that next Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>and tomorrow we will be back with our Roundabout Roundup.

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