WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:08.080 Well Whiskey coment, take My pain the money, Oh Whiskey, 2 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:09.480 don't you Leave Me? 3 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:15.439 From power Line blog dot com and produced by Ricochet 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:20.399 dot Com. This is the Three Whiskey Happy Hour with 5 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:26.120 your bartenders Steve Hayward, John Yu and power Lines International 6 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:30.160 Woman of Mystery Lucretia has Gotta giving. 7 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:34.759 Let that whiskey clone when you're feeling in love, Down 8 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:35.439 and Lone. 9 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:43.159 Welcome everyone to the very very last edition of the 10 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:47.000 Three Whiskey Happy Hour in the year twenty twenty four, 11 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:49.679 and I'm very excited to be here with my co 12 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:53.600 hosts John You and Steve Hayward celebrating what has been, 13 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:57.799 by all accounts, quite a successful year. I almost am 14 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.119 tired of winning, but not quite. I don't know, but 15 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:01.679 you guys, are you tired of winning yet? 16 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.159 No, not at all. I'm a joint John. 17 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:07.640 Well, this has just been spring training so far. We 18 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:09.719 got to see how the real games, how the real 19 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:11.959 game goes the next four years. What are you talking about? 20 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:15.719 So, John, tell me what was in your opinion, the 21 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.159 best thing, the best story of twenty twenty four. 22 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:24.519 I'd have to say it was Trump defeating law Fair, 23 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:29.560 which got him the primary and I think contributed heavily 24 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:33.079 to his winning the election. But I think Trump defeating 25 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:38.200 all the use of prosecution and then cross support by 26 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.760 the media and everything to win. I did not think 27 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:43.920 he was going to be able to do it. 28 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:48.519 So you by that, you don't necessarily mean defeating all 29 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:52.159 of the individual lawsuits and so forth. What you mean 30 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:55.400 is that the intent of the law fair was to 31 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:58.560 bring him down and he was not brought down. 32 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:02.319 Is that am I? I say? Each Yeah, each individual 33 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:06.239 lawsuit was a different tactic. The overall strategy was to 34 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:11.639 use this sort of combined effort of prosecution, civil lawsuits, 35 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:15.360 the media to bring him down and prevent him from 36 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:17.280 running for president and prevent him from winning. 37 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.039 And would you add the assassination attempts in there as well? 38 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:23.639 I don't think that was part of it. Come on, 39 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:26.280 although I know you're still investigating. I know you're still 40 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.000 investigating to find the links. 41 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.719 All right, before I get to his worst? See what's 42 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:33.159 your best? 43 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:36.280 Oh it's see. I think bigger than John as usual. 44 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:39.280 I think it's Trump winning over everything, not just law fair. 45 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:42.479 And then we put it this way as was I 46 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.240 think readers know I was a desantist person. You know 47 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:46.800 i'd met him. I think he's a very smart and 48 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:48.159 promising guy, and I was for him. 49 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:50.639 That's that's when the poll started going south on him, 50 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:51.080 is when they. 51 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:55.080 Picture of you and your favorite calamy. But here's my 52 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.199 point is I have to say that Trump winning is 53 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.159 more satisfying than the sand. Is there any other Republican 54 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:03.960 winning this selection. The fact that it's Trump who won 55 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.840 a majority of the popular vote, uh and and routed 56 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.199 every attack on him so well, that is so much 57 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:12.639 more satisfying than if a conventional Republican had won. 58 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:13.000 That. 59 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:15.639 That's sort of my great story of the year. I 60 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:17.800 think you can't. This is why I side with you 61 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.039 on the whole landslide question, which you know, statistically persnicketty 62 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.319 people will pooh pooh, but I think you are metaphysically 63 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.879 correct about that. And that's why I think Trump winning 64 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:32.199 is the big story. And we'll see, yeah, and as 65 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:33.800 Trump likes to say, we'll just see. I have to 66 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:34.599 see what happens. 67 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:37.960 Well, and you add to what John said about the 68 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:41.680 law fair and the fact that all of the major 69 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:47.159 institutions of of our of American society were stacked against Trump. 70 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:52.159 I mean, if if you remove Twitter. From that equation, 71 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.439 I can't. I have yet to come up with even 72 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:01.039 one major institution in society that was even new towards Trump. 73 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.800 Am I wrong about that? I mean, wait, think of 74 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.000 what I'm asking. I'm actually that's actually a question for 75 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:08.960 both of you. Can you think of a I mean, 76 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:13.719 certainly not academia, certainly not anything in the media that 77 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.319 with any sort of force. Even Fox News is not 78 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:21.399 at all trustworthy when it comes to reporting on Trump. 79 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:25.800 Better than most, of course, but not altogether trustworthy. 80 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:29.240 And you know, the on and on and on. 81 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:33.519 It's everything stacked against him, along with the law fair 82 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.360 it should have brought down anyone else, I guess it 83 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.800 would be my point. It's amazing that the victory over 84 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:43.800 all of that is utterly amazing in my opinion. But 85 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:48.199 it also goes to show that that thing that the 86 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:54.000 Democrats like to refer to as our democracy trademark actually 87 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.319 works a whole lot better than than any of us 88 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:00.199 thought it might. In other words, there were it is, 89 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:06.600 in fact, in our constitutional republic, still democratic rule. From 90 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.040 the point of view that a lot of people out 91 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.600 there were not convinced by the elites who wanted them 92 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.680 to do a certain thing that they didn't want to do, right, 93 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:16.040 am I right? 94 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:17.560 I have a slow descent? 95 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:19.000 Is that I don't have. 96 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.240 I don't think the great news is Trump himself winning. 97 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:26.839 It's that the system rejected this effort to radicalize it 98 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:31.639 by all the institutions coming together to try to disrupt 99 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.480 the way we've conducted elections for hundreds of years in 100 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.720 this country. That's that's I mean. I'm glad the institutions 101 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:40.519 in a way worked and that the left tried to 102 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.040 pervert them because they thought Trump was such a severe 103 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.839 threat to democracy they had to go to any ends 104 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.199 to prevail. Although this is you know, their track record 105 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.399 on things like climate change, affirmative action, abortion, or you 106 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:56.160 go through all the progressive issues, and they're willing to 107 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:59.279 radicalize institutions to win. And so that's why I find 108 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:03.079 it the story not because of Trump, but because they failed. 109 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:03.720 The left fail. 110 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:06.040 I think that's what I was trying to say as well, 111 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:10.040 that the reason that they failed is because Americans are 112 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:12.480 a lot smarter than they gave them credit for. They're 113 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.040 not as easily manipulated, they have a better sense of 114 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:20.839 their own self interest rightly understood, and so I think 115 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.480 you're right. Trump. Trump is a nice figurehead for all 116 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:25.720 of that, and the person that he is made it 117 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.920 possible in many ways. But it was the American people 118 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.480 rejecting all of those things you just talked about that 119 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:35.800 brought about the win. I do have really quickly, John, 120 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:38.199 It's on my list, and I apologize for this, but 121 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:39.519 I know you'll get a kick out of it. I 122 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.480 won't remember their names, they're not worth remembering. But you 123 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:44.839 might have seen the story about those two lawyers who 124 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:53.480 are calling for for Electoral College electors to reject Trump's 125 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.959 win and install Calm a Lah because you know, the 126 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:59.240 whole insurrection thing. 127 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.439 Or they said could do it too. They said Congress 128 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.839 could do it. They said, not electors, but Congress could 129 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:06.000 also reject you votes. 130 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:09.319 That's why I think the electoral that's why I think 131 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:13.480 that new electoral count that's actually unconstitutional because it allows 132 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.279 Congress to reject electoral votes. 133 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:16.439 I don't think they have that right. 134 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.079 No, not, It doesn't seem to be under the constitution. 135 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:23.920 But on Twitter, I called out Rachel Alexander and I said, 136 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:25.759 I think that we need to get these two lawyers 137 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:29.560 disbarred because, after all, there is precedent yep. 138 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:29.959 That's right. 139 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:30.319 Yeah. 140 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.319 I said the same thing yesterday on Power Line. 141 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:37.240 Right, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, enough of that, wor well. 142 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.079 Can I just add though, real quickly? John says that 143 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.399 it's uh that it's right now. We're in the preseason 144 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:46.879 or spring training formally again, formally true except what I'll 145 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.040 sug justin rebuttal is but Trump is wearing out the 146 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:52.879 best pitching arms of the other teams, but before the 147 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:55.839 official season starts. And by that I mean the shock 148 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.439 of his election isn't just a shock of Democrats in America. 149 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:00.759 I think it's a shock to the entire world. And 150 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.160 so one of the amusing things I'm watching the last 151 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:04.879 ten days or so is Trump saying, you know, we 152 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:08.720 all have the Panama Canal back, and we should buy Greenland, Greenland, 153 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:12.279 And I play what's this about? And the Wall Street 154 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:15.319 Journal even sniffed at editorial, Gosh, I don't remember Trump 155 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.959 campaigning on invading Panama. And you know, by now you 156 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.000 think people would understand Trump's negotiating style. So I pick 157 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:25.519 up the paper here yesterday and it says, ah, Panama 158 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:29.439 is finally going to get serious about closing the Darien gap. 159 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:31.519 That's an area southern Panama that's sort of an out 160 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.879 of control jungle where the human traffickers assemble people. And 161 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:40.039 the Journal reported responsible for five hundred thousand migrants at 162 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:41.240 least to our border over the. 163 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.440 Last and what happens to them in that jungle is 164 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:47.120 isis a humanitarian crisis exactly. 165 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.120 And but suddenly Panama stepping Oh yeah, I guess we 166 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:53.600 have to do some. The headline this morning is Mexico 167 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:58.279 fears Trump may bomb or attack the drug cartels inside 168 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.720 Mexico between and that in his terror threats against Mexico. 169 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:04.159 Just geeve, people are suddenly saying, you know, maybe we 170 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:06.799 you know, what's the old Mockavillian line, better to be 171 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:09.519 feared than loved. Trump doesn't care about being loved, And 172 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:12.720 this all seems rather crude and direct to me. Greenland 173 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:15.240 I'm not sure about, except that I think maybe Trump 174 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:18.720 did say it has military strategic significance. And you know, 175 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:21.080 if the Russians turn to get frisky again, not to 176 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:23.399 mention the Chinese, sooner or later, the Chinese are going 177 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.679 to start staying their own submarines under the North Pole, 178 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.360 suddenly using Greenland as nothing else a monitoring base for 179 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.519 intelligence gathering looks important. I could say more about that, 180 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:38.480 having visited Greenland last summer and not sure whether we 181 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:40.759 really wanted or not for a bunch of reasons. But 182 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:44.399 still I think this is you know, Trump has everyone 183 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.320 back on their heels, and like so many of his 184 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:50.639 business ventures, he'll say something outrageous, this is something Conrad 185 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:53.159 Black picked up six seven years ago. He'll make it 186 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.840 outrageous proposal, and then a reasonable one will come through 187 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:59.200 and he's happy and everyone's better off. And the world 188 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:01.360 politicians came figure this out because they're not used to 189 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:08.120 someone who operates that way. So so just the first 190 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:09.720 of the year, you asked that was your next question. 191 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.080 Sorry, no, I was just gonna ask what why do 192 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.000 we want Greenland? Explain that one to me. 193 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:16.679 Well, I mean, first of all, I don't get why. 194 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:19.200 I just looked up the population. Can anybody guess what 195 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:19.519 it is? 196 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:21.360 It's like two thousand or less. 197 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:24.639 No, it's so ridiculous. It's fifty six thousand people. So 198 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.000 I don't know why we should let fifty six thousand 199 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.600 people control the fate of that enormous piece of land. 200 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:32.440 But if you look at the met Lucretie, it's the 201 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:35.480 enormous strategic importance. In fact, one of the things FDR 202 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:38.840 did before we ever even entered World War two was 203 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.440 he basically stationed a huge base, you know, sent troops 204 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.320 into Greenland to prevent the access from getting it, because 205 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:48.080 it's a great base to patrol the North Atlantic front. 206 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.519 Like if you don't have Greenland, if we don't have Greenland, 207 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.080 we don't have the uh, we don't have the bridge 208 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.919 to Great Britain. In World War two, we can't get 209 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:01.279 our ships past summarines through there across Atlantic. Plus, as 210 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.080 Steve said, if the Arctic is becoming an area of 211 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:07.320 great power competition. You look at the map, China, Russia 212 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:09.559 and the United States are a lot closer to each 213 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.519 other if you look at the Earth from the top 214 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:17.600 and Greenland again, is this huge, you know, really unoccupied space. 215 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:19.720 I mean that people only live on a very small 216 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:24.039 sliver of it, but it's actually of enormous strategic importance. Also, 217 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:26.320 that's I think why Trump's talking about Canada being the 218 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.720 fifty first state and Trudeau being a governor. It's like, 219 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.639 ye know, this actually goes back to the founding. I 220 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:35.720 don't even know in the Articles of Confederation there is 221 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.559 a provision about adding the Canadian provinces to the United States, 222 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.159 and part of what the War of eighteen twelve was 223 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.759 provoked because we wanted to invade Canada and add it 224 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:48.960 to the United States. I always said there was a 225 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.639 great idea, except then we'd have to have nationalized. 226 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.080 Healthcare, not that we didn't have it already. 227 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:59.080 Middle Why couldn't we get rid of theirs? Yeah, right, 228 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.279 I'm just curious. My dad always used to say that 229 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:08.200 there's very little ice in Iceland and very little green 230 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.799 in Greenland. And I was stationed there actually during the 231 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:15.639 Korean War, came upon a mass grave site. 232 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.360 Now, don't the thing is with Greenland and Canada. We 233 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:22.919 don't really need to possess them and make them part 234 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:25.039 of the United States, but we need to have the 235 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:26.320 right to put bases there. 236 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:29.440 Yeah, okay, all. 237 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.799 Right, So what's your worst? What's your worst thing that 238 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:32.879 happened this last year? 239 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:36.399 So, I mean the worst of course, everything is going 240 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.679 to have to do with Biden. I think the fact 241 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.080 that the White House staff, it now appears, have been 242 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.120 concealing his mental incapacity for it seems like his whole presidency, 243 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.600 if not before, I think, is a huge problem for 244 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:57.360 our political constitutional system. I mean, our constitution centralizes power 245 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:59.559 in the president. It's a single person to take advantage 246 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:04.279 of speed, speed and energy in the executive and if 247 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:08.879 this imperial guard surrounds him and prevents people from knowing 248 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.600 his true condition, I think it undermines our system. So 249 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.279 I actually, if I'm going to write a piece about this, 250 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:19.879 I think actually Congress should hold hearings and investigate whether 251 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:22.720 we need to change the twenty fifth Amendment to make 252 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:26.720 a clearer the state of mental incapacity that would justify 253 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.440 removing a president. And here's the delicious part. This is 254 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:33.120 the part I think Lucretia would like President Trump will 255 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.679 be able to waive executive privilege on behalf of all 256 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:38.200 the Biden White House staffers who would not want to 257 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:40.519 have to testify about all the ways they covered up 258 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:45.960 Biden's mental decline. And when Congress subpoena is them and 259 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.360 then holds them in contempt, it'll be the Trump Justice 260 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.919 Department which will be allowed to prosecute people like the 261 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:54.639 White House Counsel and the chief of Staff for refusing 262 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.080 to testify about the ways they covered it up. And 263 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.360 so I just wonder if the Steve Bannon Memorial jail 264 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:04.120 cell will have extra spaces or the people who are 265 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:06.440 going to be sent there when they refuse to cooperate 266 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:07.919 with the congressional investigation. 267 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:17.720 Yep, yep. Peter Navarro was imprisoned for Also, Yeah, okay, 268 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.440 just wanted to make sure, just out of curiosity, could 269 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:25.720 we maybe hold that whole thing, those the hearings in 270 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:27.960 New York for a change, and then put them in 271 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:28.720 Rikers Island. 272 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:31.840 Oh well, Rikers Island is a city jail. I'm not 273 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:32.399 a federal one. 274 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:35.320 I know, I know, but I was at least going 275 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:38.080 to move the venue to show I understood slightly. No, 276 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:42.399 I agree, absolutely agree with you. Yes, yes, the answer 277 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:49.840 is yes, John, I'll do another. I would argue that, 278 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.720 let me start over. I would ask you whether or 279 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:58.840 not there is a crime involved at this point without 280 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.279 a new twenty fifth amendment, you know, changes to it. 281 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:04.840 Is there a crime involved that anybody could actually be 282 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:11.559 prosecuted for covering up the mental disability of the president. 283 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:12.600 There's not, really is there. 284 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:16.639 So this is actually a really great liberal versus conservative 285 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.159 fight because liberals would have to admit that they think 286 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:23.639 there would be because they have they have brought prosecutions, 287 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:28.320 particularly the Special Counsel Jack Smith, where he lost unanimously 288 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:32.039 at the Supreme Court. They have brought prosecutions on something 289 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:37.720 they call fraud, but it's really called honest services nature fraud, 290 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:44.039 where politicians have not. It's so ridiculous that that there 291 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:47.799 was ever prosecutions brought on this. Politicians, even corporate figures, 292 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.759 have not been honest in the way they did business, 293 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:52.679 and so they could this was apparently a federal crime. 294 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.519 You know, you'd have to you'd have to prosecute every 295 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:02.000 member of Congress under this theory. So but liberals think, yeah, 296 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:06.480 that's a crime. Conservatives at the Supreme Court have gradually 297 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:09.840 narrowed this and narrowed this to try to prevent people 298 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:14.080 from just being prosecuted because we think they did something corrupt. Right, 299 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.440 This is you know, like the Supreme Court has said, 300 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.679 you have to show there was a payoff, not just 301 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.279 that someone was doing someone a favor. So I actually 302 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.720 am not sure there's a crime, except the liberal theory 303 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.879 of good government would suggest there was a crime. 304 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:36.360 Ah right, Well, yeah, I mean did. 305 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:37.919 You want to comment on that? See, because I was 306 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:38.960 one further question. 307 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:40.480 No, go ahead and ask your question. 308 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:44.440 So the further question is how would you how would 309 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.200 you personally? Let's say John you is being asked as 310 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:52.559 no doubt he will be to testify before Congress before 311 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.720 hearings to talk about what the language of an amended 312 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:00.559 twenty fifth Amendment might look like. What what would you 313 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:04.039 suggest to make sure that it does what it's supposed 314 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.279 to do and not be abused, which, of course is always, 315 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:08.279 you know, always the issue here. 316 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:11.960 So there's two different features of the twenty fifth Amendment. 317 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:17.279 One is it doesn't include mental right. It doesn't include 318 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:22.200 actually doesn't really decline and define disability. So want these 319 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.079 you want to define it. The second thing that I 320 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:29.000 think the harder thing is the process. Right now, the 321 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.519 process is completely controlled by the vice president. So you 322 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:36.000 cannot remove a president. Even if a president is obviously disabled, 323 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:39.000 he cannot be or she cannot be removed unless the 324 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:42.039 vice president agrees to it. The vice president is one 325 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:45.200 who triggers the whole process. I'm not clear that the 326 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:49.119 vice president is the best person to have in this system. 327 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.160 So the way it works is the conflictive interests. 328 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:55.519 Conflict of interest, Yeah, like look at Kamala Harris, right, 329 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:59.240 So you have the system works as the vice president decides, 330 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:01.200 and then they have to get a majority of the 331 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:06.759 cabinet to agree, and then the president is temporarily removed 332 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:11.559 and the vice president becomes acting president. So and then 333 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:14.440 the weird thing is the president can come back almost 334 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.000 right away and say send a letter to Congress, say no, 335 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:20.400 I'm all better, I'm able, I'm not disabled, I'm abled, 336 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.680 and then two thirds of Congress has to reject that 337 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:28.400 in order to keep the president out of office. So 338 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:32.079 like a demented like Joe Biden, suppose this had been 339 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:33.839 used on him, I have no doubt that he and 340 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:37.079 his palace guards would have immediately sent a letter to 341 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.119 Congress saying I'm all better, and then all he would 342 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:44.000 need would be right thirty four senators to agree with him, 343 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:46.359 and he would have become president again, no matter how 344 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:49.920 nuts he was or how demented he was. So that's anything. 345 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:53.240 We got to think of a better procedure for judging. 346 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:55.559 Now here's the interesting thing. I'm not saying we should 347 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:58.039 adopt everything Korea does, because the Korea is going through 348 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:01.559 its own interesting thing right now. The one thing in 349 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:06.759 Korea that's interesting is the president gets impeached by the Congress, 350 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:10.559 but then it's the Supreme the Supreme Court they call 351 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:13.759 it the Constitutional court, the country that has to approve it. 352 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:17.599 So I could see a system where you want you 353 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:20.720 could have a system where the president's removed they're found disabled, 354 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:22.920 but maybe you want to have some kind of judicial 355 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:26.400 review over whether Congress is not actually abusing this to 356 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.920 seize power and kick out a democratically elected president who's 357 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:32.319 actually in fine shape. 358 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:36.799 Okay, yeah, I mean, anyway you look at it right now, 359 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:40.119 you can see where all of the pitfalls might lie 360 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:46.640 from any in all directions and with any institution that 361 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.079 you involve in it, the vice presidency, the cabinet, I mean, 362 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:55.400 those are people chosen by the president himself. There's a 363 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.839 you know which in the case of Biden, those were 364 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:01.440 the people who were going to protect him. 365 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:07.160 And actually that no one is mentioned, ever mentioned then 366 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:09.720 or now. I would subject it to a vote of 367 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:15.200 the governors. Oh, why no one has thought of that? Governors? 368 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:15.680 Yeah? 369 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:18.599 And would you do that? Let me, I'm going to 370 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:20.839 go I'm going to go there, throw down on you, John. 371 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:23.400 Would you do that if the majority of governors were 372 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:27.359 not Republican? Oh yeah, even if the majority of governors 373 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:34.079 were Gavin Newsom, Sure, well, because that's a whole new 374 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:35.160 idea for me, a good one. 375 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:37.680 I'd rather have governors than Congress, because you remember, the 376 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:41.920 Founders did not want the president's subject to removal by Congress. Yeah. 377 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:43.680 I was going to say that's the problem. I'm just 378 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:46.480 going to stipulate John for later argument that Hamilton would 379 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:49.119 not like your idea, but he might like the governor's idea. 380 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:52.599 And I think that. Look, Newsom's interest is not purely partisan. 381 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:56.480 His ambition, what's the flying ambition connected with the place. 382 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:59.599 You know, I think you could see Newsom and Whitmer 383 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:01.119 another Democrats saying. 384 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.680 Keep that as long as possible. 385 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:06.480 Yeah, no, no, get him rid of him. I think 386 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:07.200 it's the other way around. 387 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:08.880 You'll get rid of him faster, longer. 388 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.200 The longer he's around, the worse it is for my prospects. 389 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:13.759 I don't know, I could see it going that way. 390 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:17.119 Yeah. I just think it's better at least governors who 391 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:20.119 don't have parliamentary supremacy, which is the real worry. 392 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:24.359 Yeah, okay, Well, like I say, when you get up there, 393 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:26.559 which no doubt you will if you're not already on 394 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:32.359 the Supreme Court, by then or or whim when. 395 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.599 I testify before Congress. All I'm trying to do is 396 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:40.799 stay out of jail, all right, So I'm going. 397 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:43.519 To follow on with that. Oh no, sorry, Steve, I 398 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:45.960 owe you, I owe you your opportunity for your worst 399 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:47.039 story of the year. 400 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.759 Well, it's the same story. It's the Biden cover up. 401 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.400