WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.879 edition of The Dankpla Show. Please be sure to give 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.240 us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.400 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:17.160 We've all got to fight together on this one across 7 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:20.000 party lines. Everybody in the state should want the same 8 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:22.480 thing here, the full truth and for this to never 9 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:26.079 happen again. And the mother who says that her young 10 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:30.719 fifteen year old daughter, star student, star athlete was targeted 11 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:34.000 by a female teacher at Columbine, groomed by that teacher 12 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:38.320 for years, more than twenty thousand texts, and you're hearing 13 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:40.799 much more about the story today from Alison Brown or 14 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.399 the mother of the child will join us next Monday 15 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:46.399 in studio. Before we go back to Allison, let's go 16 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.359 to the phone lines talk with Joanne tells us she's 17 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.719 a retired teacher from the Jeffco School District. 18 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:54.600 Joanne, Welcome to The Dan Caplis Show. 19 00:00:55.679 --> 00:01:02.359 Hey, jan this just makes my stomach learn because this 20 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.439 is not what education is about. It's not what I 21 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.079 was about when I was teaching in Jetco. I retired 22 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:14.359 four years ago, and I like to say I got 23 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.040 out when I couldn't take it anymore. 24 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:18.799 What do you mean by that? 25 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:24.879 The wokeism that was coming in that was, you know, 26 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:34.000 encouraging the transgender ideology, the thing that we had to 27 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:39.159 be more sensitive about students' feelings rather than about them 28 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:47.480 knowing content, about holding students accountable for content knowledge. And 29 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:52.840 I saw it as this was the slippery slopes that 30 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:54.120 I was not willing to die on. 31 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:01.319 And did you see inappropriate things happening between teaching and students? 32 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:08.879 I personally did not. I found out later after I 33 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:14.240 retired that there were some things that happened after I retired, 34 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:21.960 and they made minor headlines in Colorado, but really nothing 35 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:23.199 beyond that. 36 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.560 Yeah, in this business, and Alison Browner's with us, we're 37 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.240 going to jump back to that and get and keep 38 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:34.879 going through the timeline of trying to have a student 39 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.039 declared homeless so she could move in with another student, 40 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:43.800 and then the principal telling the parents that this teacher 41 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:48.520 had been helping students navigate their sexuality. 42 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:51.680 Had you heard of it? What's that? 43 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.400 No? No, I would have been all over that. I 44 00:02:55.479 --> 00:03:03.039 worked with a special population and I worked with speech 45 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:07.479 language pathologists, and it's like, no, this is totally inappropriate. 46 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.479 And all I can say is that principle is probably 47 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:16.120 is inexperienced and just kind of go with the flow, 48 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.520 go along to you know, not make waves. But yeah, no, 49 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:25.319 my four kids graduated from COLUMNNE and I will tell 50 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:28.439 you this, when Frank DeAngelis was principal. Oh yeah, this 51 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:34.000 death would not absolutely happen. Red flags all along on 52 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:38.400 the way. And I was a mandatory reporter, as every 53 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:44.039 teacher is a mandatory reporter, and for them to sweep 54 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.599 this under the carpet, it makes me sick. 55 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.400 Yeah, and did you witness any grooming when you were there, 56 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.800 because here we're hearing these reports of twenty more than 57 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.759 twenty thousand texts between the teacher and this young girl. 58 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:06.199 I did not witness groomy. But then again, my high 59 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:16.879 school was pretty much forthcoming, and yeah, ran the straight 60 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:21.040 and narrow until I found out after I retired that 61 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:32.800 something's happened because of let me say personnel, children were 62 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.120 involved because they were students. 63 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:36.879 Yeah. 64 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:40.000 Wow, well I just I mean, I think anybody listening 65 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:43.560 to this story cannot imagine how all these people still 66 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:47.920 have their jobs everybody's wondering why why haven't we seen 67 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:51.439 any criminal prosecutions? Again, innocent until proven guilty, but it's 68 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.560 mind blowing, and well, thank you, thank you for your 69 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:57.959 service as a teacher, and thanks for the call today. 70 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.800 Thank you, And I know it. There is no reason. 71 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:05.800 And the red flag the first road flat should have 72 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:10.639 been why is the speech language pathologist having anything to 73 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:14.519 do with a four point zero plus student when they're 74 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:19.120 not on their paceload, Because in my experience, the speech 75 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:23.120 language pathologists have a full paceload. They have to worry 76 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.920 about their own students. How did she have time to 77 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.360 outside her realm to seek the student out? 78 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.720 Yeah, no, great, great question. Thank you for that. 79 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:35.879 And that brings us right back to Alison Browner. If 80 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:39.759 you've just joined us, thank you. Allison started with us 81 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:41.600 at about four point thirty six. You can hear that 82 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:46.160 first part on the podcast. And she is a parent 83 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.120 in that school district as well with their own concerns, 84 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:52.560 but a former private investigator and has done a deep 85 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.720 dive into the sheriff's reports on this and some other documents. 86 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.480 So we've been reviewing the timeline with her and I 87 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.680 won't repeat that here. We may loop back and summarize 88 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.240 a couple of points. But Ellison, we were at the 89 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:06.279 point in the story when we went to that news 90 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:10.199 break where you had already described how you have this 91 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:14.040 fifteen year old girl, star student, star athlete from this great, 92 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.759 very solid, stable home. The mother involved at school had 93 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:21.279 another child at the school, and then all of a sudden, 94 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.079 this female teacher is taking an interest in this star 95 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:28.639 fifteen year old more than twenty thousand text The teacher 96 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.680 who is texting the student tens of thousands of times, 97 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:36.519 is then going to a speech pathologist working with her 98 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:40.800 to try to have the target student declared homeless so 99 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.560 she could be pulled out of the great home she's 100 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:47.040 in and put in with this other teacher. And then 101 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.519 we're getting to the point of the story where the 102 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.000 parents and the mother will be with me in studio 103 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:54.720 next Monday, then go to meet with the principal. 104 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:56.879 Can you pick it up from there, Allison. 105 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:01.360 Yeah, So the principal, excuse me, the parents started having suspicions, 106 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:06.240 as we've already discussed, and they actually meet with Jeff Coach, 107 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:11.639 Sheriff's deputies, who get all of the information and let 108 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:15.000 them know that currently at that point. They didn't have 109 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:19.560 anything actionable right at that second, but they told the 110 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:24.879 parents to meet with school administration immediately. And keep in mind, 111 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:28.120 going back in the timeline, the mother has already found 112 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:32.759 some documentation that the daughter and this teacher is in 113 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.360 a relationship, and she has already contacted the teacher and 114 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:40.720 said stop texting my daughter, leave my daughter alone. And 115 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.279 in the Jeff Coach Sheriff's report, it does indicate that 116 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.040 all of these school officials were aware that the mother 117 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:52.639 texted the predator teacher, and yet nobody asked any questions 118 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:54.639 about that. They didn't say, what is going on and 119 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:56.759 why is this mom texting this teacher? 120 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.879 Well, wait a second, at this point, did everybody, including 121 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.040 law enforcement know about the what is it? Twenty four 122 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:04.040 thousand texts? 123 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:08.920 So this is a little bit before law enforcement was involved. Okay, 124 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.279 but you know, the teachers, if I guess, I'm trying 125 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.240 to put myself in a principal principal's hat and principal shoes, 126 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:21.040 and if one of my teachers gets a text from 127 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:25.560 a parent saying, don't talk to my daughter anymore, that's 128 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:27.240 going to raise red flags for. 129 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:28.959 Me, right thousand percent. 130 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:32.120 But at this point had the principle also been aware 131 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.679 that they were trying to have the student declared homeless, 132 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:36.720 this student. 133 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:37.279 Who had a home. 134 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:42.399 So what we know is that the principle was given, 135 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.759 at his request, bi weekly updates, So twice a week 136 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.600 from the beginning of April, he was given updates. We 137 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.759 I am not aware and I don't know for certain 138 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.039 whether or not he knew that they were filling out 139 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:59.960 this paperwork, but he knew that they were so concer 140 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:05.240 concerned about this minor child that there was discussions going 141 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:08.919 on about she shouldn't be in her home. So I 142 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.039 have not sais done what exactly exactly? And again keep 143 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.879 in mind, you know, the counselor while she's referring this 144 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:22.120 child to the community liaison for this paperwork, she also 145 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:26.159 has the younger sibling as one of her students, and 146 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.799 she does not pull that younger sibling in at any 147 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.440 point and say, hey, what's going on at home? 148 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:35.919 Well, isn't the reason for that because she knew, well 149 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:37.279 that wasn't a problem at home. 150 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:38.720 That would be my guess. 151 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.360 Yeah, And and I mean if you just joined us, 152 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:45.440 Alison detailed for us earlier that the people filling out 153 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.360 these forms to try to have this star student and 154 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:50.240 athlete declared homeless so she could move in with the teacher. 155 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:53.919 At the same time, this other teacher who's targeted the 156 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:57.000 fifteen year oldest center twenty thousand texts. They never call 157 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:01.799 the parents, They never talked to the parents, they never 158 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:06.519 call protective services. Right, So, if they really thought this 159 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:09.919 child had an unstable home life, don't you think they 160 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:12.840 would have done that? I mean, was this all just 161 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:18.440 one big plan to make this target student more accessible 162 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:20.600 to the teacher wantedor. 163 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.559 It certainly seems like it. I don't know any other explanation, 164 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:26.000 And that would be to. 165 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.799 Be one of the sickest things in Colorado history, in 166 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:32.360 the history of education in Colorado. And when you think 167 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.600 about this courageous mom who has spoken out, and then 168 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.399 people like you and Lindsay dot Cow and all of 169 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:41.840 those who have fought to make this public, how many 170 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.960 of these horrible situations, how they're out there where the 171 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.919 student doesn't have that, where the student doesn't have somebody 172 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:51.720 to stand up for them and try to make it 173 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.200 public and fight for them and try to get the 174 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.200 child back from the predator teacher. 175 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:59.759 And that's what we're really concerned about and that for 176 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.320 the mom and the family, they don't want this to 177 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.799 happen to another child, right, And I know you know 178 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.840 the last caller there was some political statements in there, 179 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:12.519 and just for full transparency, I am a left leaning 180 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:19.279 independent and I support LGBTQ plus rights, but I think 181 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:24.360 you can have LGBTQ plus rights without taking the rights 182 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.080 of parents away. And that's what's an issue a lot 183 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:28.840 of these cases. 184 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:32.120 Well, hell yes, And if this was an LGBTQ thing, 185 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:35.480 that then what you've got here If and I have 186 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.200 no idea if this young girl who is targeted is 187 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:40.879 that or not, But if she was, then you've got 188 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:47.399 abuse of an LGBTQ person, an LGBTQ minor. So this 189 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:50.039 is something all colorad and should be able to unite on. 190 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.759 Can you stay one more segment, Alison? Yes, want to 191 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:53.720 come back in detail. 192 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:57.240 What happens then when the parents meet with the principal 193 00:11:57.799 --> 00:11:59.840 and how was the principal still there? And why haven't 194 00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:02.200 we heard anything from the DA here on the Dan 195 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:03.200 Kapla Show. 196 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:08.039 And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast. 197 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:11.159 Every Colorado needs to be insisting on answers here the 198 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:14.320 full truth on the table. What happened at Columbine. Everything 199 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:17.799 I've heard must never be allowed to happen again. Alison Brown, 200 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:21.120 are with us drilling down the mother of the student, 201 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:23.600 who has now told the New York Post her child 202 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:26.200 was groomed at Columbine by a teacher center more than 203 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:29.720 twenty four thousand texts and then quote unquote, she took 204 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:33.000 her The mother will join us next Monday in studio. 205 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:38.039 Allison's done some deep dive research into publicly available reports, etc. 206 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:40.399 So, Allison, we're at the point in the. 207 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:43.799 Story now where the parents are a meeting with the 208 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:47.039 principal at Columbine, Scott Christy, Is that correct? 209 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:49.320 That's correct? What happens in that meeting? 210 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:57.480 So in that meeting, the principal reportedly tells the parents that, again, 211 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:01.360 as you mentioned earlier, this particular teacher takes a special 212 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:07.600 interest in helping students navigate their sexuality, and obviously the 213 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:09.000 parents took issue with that. 214 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.399 Can we stop there for a second. So you've got 215 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:18.240 a principle telling the parents that the teacher takes an 216 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:21.279 interest in helping students navigate their sexuality. And this is 217 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:24.480 the teacher now who has texted the student more than 218 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.519 twenty thousand times and is working with another teacher to 219 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:30.480 get the student declared homeless. 220 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:36.440 Correct, it's hard, yeah, it's hard to even process this. 221 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:37.360 Please go ahead. 222 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:41.559 So then, you know, the parents start asking questions. They 223 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:47.879 want to know what exactly the principal knew, and he acknowledges, 224 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:50.480 according to the jeff Coe Sheriff's report, that he was 225 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:52.919 aware that their minor child was not happy with her 226 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:55.799 home life, and the parents asked him, well, then why 227 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.639 didn't you call us? Why didn't you notify us? Right, 228 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:02.799 And he did have an answer. He reportedly replied, that's 229 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:03.440 a good question. 230 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:07.519 And then but he does hef to assuming knows the 231 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:11.360 answer right, right, right. I don't know him personally, but 232 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.720 I'm sure he's not an idiot. He's done some things 233 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:17.679 I can't even fathom, according to these reports, but he's 234 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:19.120 certainly an intelligent person. 235 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:20.720 He must know the answer to that question. 236 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:25.159 And then you know, they also ask whether it's acceptable, 237 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.519 because by this time they are aware they have found 238 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:32.360 the paperwork declaring their child who's not homeless, declaring their 239 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:36.559 child homeless, and so they ask Principal Christy, you know, 240 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:38.679 is it acceptable for a student to move in with 241 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.240 a teacher, because keep in mind, this particular student did 242 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:45.480 not move in with a predatory teacher first. She first 243 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.559 moved in with a speech pathologist. So that adds a 244 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.759 whole layer of complexity to the story because had that 245 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:54.960 not happen, maybe she never would have gotten to the 246 00:14:54.960 --> 00:15:00.279 predators teacher. So they asked the principal and said, is 247 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:02.679 it acceptable for a student to move in with the 248 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:06.440 teacher while still enrolled? And he reportedly stated yes, this 249 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:09.080 teacher has done it before with another homeless student. 250 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:09.799 Oh my lord. 251 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.480 They confirmed it with their legal team, to which the 252 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:15.840 mother replied, but my child is not homeless. 253 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:20.399 Right, and it's I just sit here thinking, as a parent, 254 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.840 your absolute worst nightmare, other than having your child pass away, 255 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:29.759 is having somebody take your student, take your child. Yeah, 256 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.759 so you've got your telling me you've got these people 257 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:37.080 in official capacities at Columbine sitting around talking about how 258 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.039 to take this child away from the parent. 259 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.159 And again, my report that you have reviewed is based 260 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:45.879 on the Jeff Coch Sheriff's narrative. 261 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:49.039 Right right now, I understand you weren't there and I 262 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.399 wasn't there, and innocent until proven guilty in all of that. 263 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.320 But the facts I understand you to be reporting from 264 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.600 from the sheriff's workup is that there was an official 265 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.519 at Columbine who signed this form saying this child was 266 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:04.399 homeless when this child was not homeless. School had never 267 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.240 spoken to the parents about this. She had a brother 268 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.919 in the school, She's a star student and athlete, right, 269 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:12.440 I mean, that's how. 270 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:14.159 This came down. That's all correct. 271 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:17.720 So it was in the sorry and the teacher you've 272 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:21.000 described as the predatory teacher had been involved in trying 273 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:24.039 to get this child declared homeless so she could be 274 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:27.080 moved out of her home, away from her parents and 275 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:28.600 put in this other teacher's home. 276 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:29.519 Exactly. 277 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:31.720 Wow. 278 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:35.919 Yep, and Dan, you should know I personally emailed the 279 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:40.240 Attorney General's office. I was so infuriated with this case 280 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:45.720 and am so angry about this. I personally emailed several 281 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.840 people within the Attorney General's office, including those that are 282 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.840 in charge of his state services area. And I did 283 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.399 receive a response, so they are aware of this case. 284 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:58.799 And the momster response. They asked if. 285 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:00.639 We wanted to have a phone call, and I asked 286 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:02.519 for a meeting, and we have not since heard. 287 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:05.240 And that one you would think a while ago, what 288 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.720 could be more important in their inbox right than this? Right? 289 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:13.359 Because you've got, first of all, this precious child who's 290 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:15.759 been a victim of all this. Then you have her 291 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:19.319 wonderful parents and family who have for now at least 292 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:22.720 lost their child. And then you have the obvious question 293 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:23.519 of how. 294 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:24.200 Many more are there? 295 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:28.240 I mean, if it wasn't for people like this courageous 296 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.519 mom and Lindsay, Dad Coow and you and others, we 297 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:31.759 wouldn't know about this story. 298 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:33.680 How many more are there out there? 299 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.680 Because don't predators normally pray on the most vulnerable who 300 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.920 don't have anybody to cry out to and nobody will 301 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:43.000 ever hear them scream? 302 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:44.079 How many more are there? 303 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:48.680 Sadly, I think we're afraid there are many more. 304 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.799 Yeah, Okay, great job on this, Ellison. I hope we 305 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:54.240 can talk again soon. And as you know, the mother 306 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:57.039 of the child will be with us in studio next Monday, 307 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:58.759 so let's stay in touch on this. Thank you for 308 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:02.759 your great work, Thanks for thank you. Wow, We're going 309 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.960 to stay all over this and when we come back, 310 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.960 Congressman Jeff Crank will join us, and hey, we'll get 311 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:09.559 his take. 312 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:10.200 On President Trump. 313 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:14.480 Now talking about selling these gold cards five million dollars 314 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:16.839 to get legal status in the US. 315 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:18.759 You're on the Dan Kapla Show. 316 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.039 You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show. Podcast. 317 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:29.440 Got to crank it up. 318 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.119 Put so much pressure on everybody in charge that they 319 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:35.960 have to make the full truth known about what happened 320 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.440 to this student at Columbine. Ellison Browner joined us starting 321 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:41.519 at four thirty six. Say, if you get a chance 322 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:43.880 to listen to the podcast and get the latest update 323 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:48.240 the mother of the student twenty four thousand texts from 324 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.279 this teacher toward this young student before she then disappears 325 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:53.920 with the teacher. The mother will join us in the 326 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.599 studio next Monday. Let's go to the VIP line and 327 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:01.279 welcome Jeff Krank. Great new congressman from Colorado. CD five 328 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:03.480 joins us on the Dan Kaplo Show. 329 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:04.720 Congressman, how you doing. 330 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:07.720 I'm doing great, Dan. How are you well good? 331 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:08.440 How do you like it? 332 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:11.279 I love it? I love it? And you're going to 333 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.599 hear one of the trains passing by as I'm walking 334 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:17.799 back from the capital from a vote. We tried to 335 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:20.799 have a vote on the budget resolution, and I think 336 00:19:20.839 --> 00:19:24.039 we're still working on a couple of Republicans to make 337 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:27.079 sure that they vote to support President Trump on the 338 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:27.920 budget resolution. 339 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:31.319 Now, you know, normally bills, as you know, have certain numbers. 340 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:34.160 We talked about HB this and that. But this one 341 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:36.920 is the big beautiful bill, right, this is the one 342 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:37.799 we're talking about. 343 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:41.359 The one big beautiful bill. That's the one we're talking about. 344 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:44.640 Will be a lot more beautiful when it's passed. Is 345 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:45.559 it going to get passed? 346 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:49.079 I think we're going to get there. You know, I 347 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.519 suspect we're maybe one or two members away from getting 348 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.039 it done. And you know, I'm the kind of person 349 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.039 that I decided early I'm going to support the president 350 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:03.559 on this a perfect It's not a perfect budget resolution. 351 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:06.400 Nothing here is perfect. You don't get to decide if 352 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:08.039 you're one of four hundred and thirty five. You don't 353 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.559 get decided for everybody. It's the legislative body. As you know, Dan, 354 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.440 I'm on board. I think most of the Republicans in 355 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.400 Colorado are on board, and we just got to get 356 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:17.759 it done. 357 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:21.079 Congressman Jeff Cranker guests, now, does it how does it 358 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:21.519 work there? 359 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:21.839 Jeff? 360 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.319 I mean, it seems like on every one of these 361 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:27.920 big bills, you get like two or three Republicans who 362 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.279 are the holdouts, and then they're in all the headlines 363 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:31.440 for two or three days. 364 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:35.200 And how does that work? 365 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:37.440 How is it decided, you know, who's going to be 366 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:38.559 the holdout this time? 367 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:41.680 Who's eventually going to come around? I mean? And is 368 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:43.400 there a price to be paid for that? 369 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.680 Well, you hope there's a price to be paid for it. 370 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:50.759 I mean, you know, most I think most members try 371 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:55.000 to just be principles and try and understand the bigness 372 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:56.960 of the moment, you know, where we are right now 373 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:00.640 as a country, and understanding that it does to be 374 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:05.200 the same holdouts every time. It's the same four or 375 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:07.880 five people. And I'll be honest with you, it's very frustrating, 376 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.000 I think when you know, again, I've only been here, 377 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:15.000 you know, for two months, But it's frustrating when you're 378 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.119 trying to do the right thing, trying to stick with 379 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:21.839 the president, and then you've got other people who, you know, 380 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:25.279 this seems like they are always trying to get that 381 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:28.519 little extra bit of ink so that they can go 382 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:30.720 back to their district and say, oh, look kind of 383 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:33.359 either fold or they hold out. 384 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.880 So yeah, well and your best bet at this point 385 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:38.160 is the bill will get passed. 386 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.000 It will. I think it will. I think we'll get 387 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:43.960 it past here. Now, this is just the start of 388 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:48.319 the reconciliation process, right, so once this passes, the real 389 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.359 hard work then begins. And and you know, we got 390 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.359 a long way to go, but hopefully the President uses 391 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.519 his political capital, you know, to make sure that Republicans 392 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:00.480 stick with us. 393 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:03.480 Well, he's got a lot of that. He's got a 394 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:03.920 lot of that. 395 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:06.359 And so once he gets it through the House, right 396 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:08.880 where you guys have what right now, maybe a one 397 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:10.359 member majority. 398 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:14.519 Two member majority, yep, we can lose basically, could lose two. 399 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.039 And then what are the prospects as you get into 400 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:21.599 the Senate, into this crazy reconciliation process, and how long 401 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:22.880