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Speaker 2: We've all got to fight together on this one across
Speaker 2: party lines. Everybody in the state should want the same
Speaker 2: thing here, the full truth and for this to never
Speaker 2: happen again. And the mother who says that her young
Speaker 2: fifteen year old daughter, star student, star athlete was targeted
Speaker 2: by a female teacher at Columbine, groomed by that teacher
Speaker 2: for years, more than twenty thousand texts, and you're hearing
Speaker 2: much more about the story today from Alison Brown or
Speaker 2: the mother of the child will join us next Monday
Speaker 2: in studio. Before we go back to Allison, let's go
Speaker 2: to the phone lines talk with Joanne tells us she's
Speaker 2: a retired teacher from the Jeffco School District.
Speaker 3: Joanne, Welcome to The Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 4: Hey, jan this just makes my stomach learn because this
Speaker 4: is not what education is about. It's not what I
Speaker 4: was about when I was teaching in Jetco. I retired
Speaker 4: four years ago, and I like to say I got
Speaker 4: out when I couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: The wokeism that was coming in that was, you know,
Speaker 4: encouraging the transgender ideology, the thing that we had to
Speaker 4: be more sensitive about students' feelings rather than about them
Speaker 4: knowing content, about holding students accountable for content knowledge. And
Speaker 4: I saw it as this was the slippery slopes that
Speaker 4: I was not willing to die on.
Speaker 2: And did you see inappropriate things happening between teaching and students?
Speaker 4: I personally did not. I found out later after I
Speaker 4: retired that there were some things that happened after I retired,
Speaker 4: and they made minor headlines in Colorado, but really nothing
Speaker 4: beyond that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in this business, and Alison Browner's with us, we're
Speaker 2: going to jump back to that and get and keep
Speaker 2: going through the timeline of trying to have a student
Speaker 2: declared homeless so she could move in with another student,
Speaker 2: and then the principal telling the parents that this teacher
Speaker 2: had been helping students navigate their sexuality.
Speaker 3: Had you heard of it? What's that?
Speaker 4: No? No, I would have been all over that. I
Speaker 4: worked with a special population and I worked with speech
Speaker 4: language pathologists, and it's like, no, this is totally inappropriate.
Speaker 4: And all I can say is that principle is probably
Speaker 4: is inexperienced and just kind of go with the flow,
Speaker 4: go along to you know, not make waves. But yeah, no,
Speaker 4: my four kids graduated from COLUMNNE and I will tell
Speaker 4: you this, when Frank DeAngelis was principal. Oh yeah, this
Speaker 4: death would not absolutely happen. Red flags all along on
Speaker 4: the way. And I was a mandatory reporter, as every
Speaker 4: teacher is a mandatory reporter, and for them to sweep
Speaker 4: this under the carpet, it makes me sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and did you witness any grooming when you were there,
Speaker 2: because here we're hearing these reports of twenty more than
Speaker 2: twenty thousand texts between the teacher and this young girl.
Speaker 4: I did not witness groomy. But then again, my high
Speaker 4: school was pretty much forthcoming, and yeah, ran the straight
Speaker 4: and narrow until I found out after I retired that
Speaker 4: something's happened because of let me say personnel, children were
Speaker 4: involved because they were students.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, well I just I mean, I think anybody listening
Speaker 2: to this story cannot imagine how all these people still
Speaker 2: have their jobs everybody's wondering why why haven't we seen
Speaker 2: any criminal prosecutions? Again, innocent until proven guilty, but it's
Speaker 2: mind blowing, and well, thank you, thank you for your
Speaker 2: service as a teacher, and thanks for the call today.
Speaker 4: Thank you, And I know it. There is no reason.
Speaker 4: And the red flag the first road flat should have
Speaker 4: been why is the speech language pathologist having anything to
Speaker 4: do with a four point zero plus student when they're
Speaker 4: not on their paceload, Because in my experience, the speech
Speaker 4: language pathologists have a full paceload. They have to worry
Speaker 4: about their own students. How did she have time to
Speaker 4: outside her realm to seek the student out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, great, great question. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2: And that brings us right back to Alison Browner. If
Speaker 2: you've just joined us, thank you. Allison started with us
Speaker 2: at about four point thirty six. You can hear that
Speaker 2: first part on the podcast. And she is a parent
Speaker 2: in that school district as well with their own concerns,
Speaker 2: but a former private investigator and has done a deep
Speaker 2: dive into the sheriff's reports on this and some other documents.
Speaker 2: So we've been reviewing the timeline with her and I
Speaker 2: won't repeat that here. We may loop back and summarize
Speaker 2: a couple of points. But Ellison, we were at the
Speaker 2: point in the story when we went to that news
Speaker 2: break where you had already described how you have this
Speaker 2: fifteen year old girl, star student, star athlete from this great,
Speaker 2: very solid, stable home. The mother involved at school had
Speaker 2: another child at the school, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: this female teacher is taking an interest in this star
Speaker 2: fifteen year old more than twenty thousand text The teacher
Speaker 2: who is texting the student tens of thousands of times,
Speaker 2: is then going to a speech pathologist working with her
Speaker 2: to try to have the target student declared homeless so
Speaker 2: she could be pulled out of the great home she's
Speaker 2: in and put in with this other teacher. And then
Speaker 2: we're getting to the point of the story where the
Speaker 2: parents and the mother will be with me in studio
Speaker 2: next Monday, then go to meet with the principal.
Speaker 3: Can you pick it up from there, Allison.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So the principal, excuse me, the parents started having suspicions,
Speaker 5: as we've already discussed, and they actually meet with Jeff Coach,
Speaker 5: Sheriff's deputies, who get all of the information and let
Speaker 5: them know that currently at that point. They didn't have
Speaker 5: anything actionable right at that second, but they told the
Speaker 5: parents to meet with school administration immediately. And keep in mind,
Speaker 5: going back in the timeline, the mother has already found
Speaker 5: some documentation that the daughter and this teacher is in
Speaker 5: a relationship, and she has already contacted the teacher and
Speaker 5: said stop texting my daughter, leave my daughter alone. And
Speaker 5: in the Jeff Coach Sheriff's report, it does indicate that
Speaker 5: all of these school officials were aware that the mother
Speaker 5: texted the predator teacher, and yet nobody asked any questions
Speaker 5: about that. They didn't say, what is going on and
Speaker 5: why is this mom texting this teacher?
Speaker 2: Well, wait a second, at this point, did everybody, including
Speaker 2: law enforcement know about the what is it? Twenty four
Speaker 2: thousand texts?
Speaker 5: So this is a little bit before law enforcement was involved. Okay,
Speaker 5: but you know, the teachers, if I guess, I'm trying
Speaker 5: to put myself in a principal principal's hat and principal shoes,
Speaker 5: and if one of my teachers gets a text from
Speaker 5: a parent saying, don't talk to my daughter anymore, that's
Speaker 5: going to raise red flags for.
Speaker 3: Me, right thousand percent.
Speaker 2: But at this point had the principle also been aware
Speaker 2: that they were trying to have the student declared homeless,
Speaker 2: this student.
Speaker 3: Who had a home.
Speaker 5: So what we know is that the principle was given,
Speaker 5: at his request, bi weekly updates, So twice a week
Speaker 5: from the beginning of April, he was given updates. We
Speaker 5: I am not aware and I don't know for certain
Speaker 5: whether or not he knew that they were filling out
Speaker 5: this paperwork, but he knew that they were so concer
Speaker 5: concerned about this minor child that there was discussions going
Speaker 5: on about she shouldn't be in her home. So I
Speaker 5: have not sais done what exactly exactly? And again keep
Speaker 5: in mind, you know, the counselor while she's referring this
Speaker 5: child to the community liaison for this paperwork, she also
Speaker 5: has the younger sibling as one of her students, and
Speaker 5: she does not pull that younger sibling in at any
Speaker 5: point and say, hey, what's going on at home?
Speaker 3: Well, isn't the reason for that because she knew, well
Speaker 3: that wasn't a problem at home.
Speaker 5: That would be my guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and I mean if you just joined us,
Speaker 2: Alison detailed for us earlier that the people filling out
Speaker 2: these forms to try to have this star student and
Speaker 2: athlete declared homeless so she could move in with the teacher.
Speaker 2: At the same time, this other teacher who's targeted the
Speaker 2: fifteen year oldest center twenty thousand texts. They never call
Speaker 2: the parents, They never talked to the parents, they never
Speaker 2: call protective services. Right, So, if they really thought this
Speaker 2: child had an unstable home life, don't you think they
Speaker 2: would have done that? I mean, was this all just
Speaker 2: one big plan to make this target student more accessible
Speaker 2: to the teacher wantedor.
Speaker 5: It certainly seems like it. I don't know any other explanation,
Speaker 5: And that would be to.
Speaker 2: Be one of the sickest things in Colorado history, in
Speaker 2: the history of education in Colorado. And when you think
Speaker 2: about this courageous mom who has spoken out, and then
Speaker 2: people like you and Lindsay dot Cow and all of
Speaker 2: those who have fought to make this public, how many
Speaker 2: of these horrible situations, how they're out there where the
Speaker 2: student doesn't have that, where the student doesn't have somebody
Speaker 2: to stand up for them and try to make it
Speaker 2: public and fight for them and try to get the
Speaker 2: child back from the predator teacher.
Speaker 5: And that's what we're really concerned about and that for
Speaker 5: the mom and the family, they don't want this to
Speaker 5: happen to another child, right, And I know you know
Speaker 5: the last caller there was some political statements in there,
Speaker 5: and just for full transparency, I am a left leaning
Speaker 5: independent and I support LGBTQ plus rights, but I think
Speaker 5: you can have LGBTQ plus rights without taking the rights
Speaker 5: of parents away. And that's what's an issue a lot
Speaker 5: of these cases.
Speaker 2: Well, hell yes, And if this was an LGBTQ thing,
Speaker 2: that then what you've got here If and I have
Speaker 2: no idea if this young girl who is targeted is
Speaker 2: that or not, But if she was, then you've got
Speaker 2: abuse of an LGBTQ person, an LGBTQ minor. So this
Speaker 2: is something all colorad and should be able to unite on.
Speaker 3: Can you stay one more segment, Alison? Yes, want to
Speaker 3: come back in detail.
Speaker 2: What happens then when the parents meet with the principal
Speaker 2: and how was the principal still there? And why haven't
Speaker 2: we heard anything from the DA here on the Dan
Speaker 2: Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Every Colorado needs to be insisting on answers here the
Speaker 2: full truth on the table. What happened at Columbine. Everything
Speaker 2: I've heard must never be allowed to happen again. Alison Brown,
Speaker 2: are with us drilling down the mother of the student,
Speaker 2: who has now told the New York Post her child
Speaker 2: was groomed at Columbine by a teacher center more than
Speaker 2: twenty four thousand texts and then quote unquote, she took
Speaker 2: her The mother will join us next Monday in studio.
Speaker 2: Allison's done some deep dive research into publicly available reports, etc.
Speaker 3: So, Allison, we're at the point in the.
Speaker 2: Story now where the parents are a meeting with the
Speaker 2: principal at Columbine, Scott Christy, Is that correct?
Speaker 3: That's correct? What happens in that meeting?
Speaker 5: So in that meeting, the principal reportedly tells the parents that, again,
Speaker 5: as you mentioned earlier, this particular teacher takes a special
Speaker 5: interest in helping students navigate their sexuality, and obviously the
Speaker 5: parents took issue with that.
Speaker 2: Can we stop there for a second. So you've got
Speaker 2: a principle telling the parents that the teacher takes an
Speaker 2: interest in helping students navigate their sexuality. And this is
Speaker 2: the teacher now who has texted the student more than
Speaker 2: twenty thousand times and is working with another teacher to
Speaker 2: get the student declared homeless.
Speaker 3: Correct, it's hard, yeah, it's hard to even process this.
Speaker 3: Please go ahead.
Speaker 5: So then, you know, the parents start asking questions. They
Speaker 5: want to know what exactly the principal knew, and he acknowledges,
Speaker 5: according to the jeff Coe Sheriff's report, that he was
Speaker 5: aware that their minor child was not happy with her
Speaker 5: home life, and the parents asked him, well, then why
Speaker 5: didn't you call us? Why didn't you notify us? Right,
Speaker 5: And he did have an answer. He reportedly replied, that's
Speaker 5: a good question.
Speaker 2: And then but he does hef to assuming knows the
Speaker 2: answer right, right, right. I don't know him personally, but
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's not an idiot. He's done some things
Speaker 2: I can't even fathom, according to these reports, but he's
Speaker 2: certainly an intelligent person.
Speaker 3: He must know the answer to that question.
Speaker 5: And then you know, they also ask whether it's acceptable,
Speaker 5: because by this time they are aware they have found
Speaker 5: the paperwork declaring their child who's not homeless, declaring their
Speaker 5: child homeless, and so they ask Principal Christy, you know,
Speaker 5: is it acceptable for a student to move in with
Speaker 5: a teacher, because keep in mind, this particular student did
Speaker 5: not move in with a predatory teacher first. She first
Speaker 5: moved in with a speech pathologist. So that adds a
Speaker 5: whole layer of complexity to the story because had that
Speaker 5: not happen, maybe she never would have gotten to the
Speaker 5: predators teacher. So they asked the principal and said, is
Speaker 5: it acceptable for a student to move in with the
Speaker 5: teacher while still enrolled? And he reportedly stated yes, this
Speaker 5: teacher has done it before with another homeless student.
Speaker 3: Oh my lord.
Speaker 5: They confirmed it with their legal team, to which the
Speaker 5: mother replied, but my child is not homeless.
Speaker 2: Right, and it's I just sit here thinking, as a parent,
Speaker 2: your absolute worst nightmare, other than having your child pass away,
Speaker 2: is having somebody take your student, take your child. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you've got your telling me you've got these people
Speaker 2: in official capacities at Columbine sitting around talking about how
Speaker 2: to take this child away from the parent.
Speaker 5: And again, my report that you have reviewed is based
Speaker 5: on the Jeff Coch Sheriff's narrative.
Speaker 2: Right right now, I understand you weren't there and I
Speaker 2: wasn't there, and innocent until proven guilty in all of that.
Speaker 2: But the facts I understand you to be reporting from
Speaker 2: from the sheriff's workup is that there was an official
Speaker 2: at Columbine who signed this form saying this child was
Speaker 2: homeless when this child was not homeless. School had never
Speaker 2: spoken to the parents about this. She had a brother
Speaker 2: in the school, She's a star student and athlete, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how.
Speaker 3: This came down. That's all correct.
Speaker 2: So it was in the sorry and the teacher you've
Speaker 2: described as the predatory teacher had been involved in trying
Speaker 2: to get this child declared homeless so she could be
Speaker 2: moved out of her home, away from her parents and
Speaker 2: put in this other teacher's home.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yep, and Dan, you should know I personally emailed the
Speaker 5: Attorney General's office. I was so infuriated with this case
Speaker 5: and am so angry about this. I personally emailed several
Speaker 5: people within the Attorney General's office, including those that are
Speaker 5: in charge of his state services area. And I did
Speaker 5: receive a response, so they are aware of this case.
Speaker 3: And the momster response. They asked if.
Speaker 5: We wanted to have a phone call, and I asked
Speaker 5: for a meeting, and we have not since heard.
Speaker 2: And that one you would think a while ago, what
Speaker 2: could be more important in their inbox right than this? Right?
Speaker 2: Because you've got, first of all, this precious child who's
Speaker 2: been a victim of all this. Then you have her
Speaker 2: wonderful parents and family who have for now at least
Speaker 2: lost their child. And then you have the obvious question
Speaker 2: of how.
Speaker 3: Many more are there?
Speaker 2: I mean, if it wasn't for people like this courageous
Speaker 2: mom and Lindsay, Dad Coow and you and others, we
Speaker 2: wouldn't know about this story.
Speaker 3: How many more are there out there?
Speaker 2: Because don't predators normally pray on the most vulnerable who
Speaker 2: don't have anybody to cry out to and nobody will
Speaker 2: ever hear them scream?
Speaker 3: How many more are there?
Speaker 5: Sadly, I think we're afraid there are many more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, great job on this, Ellison. I hope we
Speaker 2: can talk again soon. And as you know, the mother
Speaker 2: of the child will be with us in studio next Monday,
Speaker 2: so let's stay in touch on this. Thank you for
Speaker 2: your great work, Thanks for thank you. Wow, We're going
Speaker 2: to stay all over this and when we come back,
Speaker 2: Congressman Jeff Crank will join us, and hey, we'll get
Speaker 2: his take.
Speaker 3: On President Trump.
Speaker 2: Now talking about selling these gold cards five million dollars
Speaker 2: to get legal status in the US.
Speaker 3: You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show. Podcast.
Speaker 3: Got to crank it up.
Speaker 2: Put so much pressure on everybody in charge that they
Speaker 2: have to make the full truth known about what happened
Speaker 2: to this student at Columbine. Ellison Browner joined us starting
Speaker 2: at four thirty six. Say, if you get a chance
Speaker 2: to listen to the podcast and get the latest update
Speaker 2: the mother of the student twenty four thousand texts from
Speaker 2: this teacher toward this young student before she then disappears
Speaker 2: with the teacher. The mother will join us in the
Speaker 2: studio next Monday. Let's go to the VIP line and
Speaker 2: welcome Jeff Krank. Great new congressman from Colorado. CD five
Speaker 2: joins us on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 3: Congressman, how you doing.
Speaker 7: I'm doing great, Dan. How are you well good?
Speaker 3: How do you like it?
Speaker 7: I love it? I love it? And you're going to
Speaker 7: hear one of the trains passing by as I'm walking
Speaker 7: back from the capital from a vote. We tried to
Speaker 7: have a vote on the budget resolution, and I think
Speaker 7: we're still working on a couple of Republicans to make
Speaker 7: sure that they vote to support President Trump on the
Speaker 7: budget resolution.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, normally bills, as you know, have certain numbers.
Speaker 2: We talked about HB this and that. But this one
Speaker 2: is the big beautiful bill, right, this is the one
Speaker 2: we're talking about.
Speaker 7: The one big beautiful bill. That's the one we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Will be a lot more beautiful when it's passed. Is
Speaker 2: it going to get passed?
Speaker 7: I think we're going to get there. You know, I
Speaker 7: suspect we're maybe one or two members away from getting
Speaker 7: it done. And you know, I'm the kind of person
Speaker 7: that I decided early I'm going to support the president
Speaker 7: on this a perfect It's not a perfect budget resolution.
Speaker 7: Nothing here is perfect. You don't get to decide if
Speaker 7: you're one of four hundred and thirty five. You don't
Speaker 7: get decided for everybody. It's the legislative body. As you know, Dan,
Speaker 7: I'm on board. I think most of the Republicans in
Speaker 7: Colorado are on board, and we just got to get
Speaker 7: it done.
Speaker 2: Congressman Jeff Cranker guests, now, does it how does it
Speaker 2: work there?
Speaker 3: Jeff?
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like on every one of these
Speaker 2: big bills, you get like two or three Republicans who
Speaker 2: are the holdouts, and then they're in all the headlines
Speaker 2: for two or three days.
Speaker 3: And how does that work?
Speaker 2: How is it decided, you know, who's going to be
Speaker 2: the holdout this time?
Speaker 3: Who's eventually going to come around? I mean? And is
Speaker 3: there a price to be paid for that?
Speaker 7: Well, you hope there's a price to be paid for it.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, most I think most members try
Speaker 7: to just be principles and try and understand the bigness
Speaker 7: of the moment, you know, where we are right now
Speaker 7: as a country, and understanding that it does to be
Speaker 7: the same holdouts every time. It's the same four or
Speaker 7: five people. And I'll be honest with you, it's very frustrating,
Speaker 7: I think when you know, again, I've only been here,
Speaker 7: you know, for two months, But it's frustrating when you're
Speaker 7: trying to do the right thing, trying to stick with
Speaker 7: the president, and then you've got other people who, you know,
Speaker 7: this seems like they are always trying to get that
Speaker 7: little extra bit of ink so that they can go
Speaker 7: back to their district and say, oh, look kind of
Speaker 7: either fold or they hold out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well and your best bet at this point
Speaker 2: is the bill will get passed.
Speaker 7: It will. I think it will. I think we'll get
Speaker 7: it past here. Now, this is just the start of
Speaker 7: the reconciliation process, right, so once this passes, the real
Speaker 7: hard work then begins. And and you know, we got
Speaker 7: a long way to go, but hopefully the President uses
Speaker 7: his political capital, you know, to make sure that Republicans
Speaker 7: stick with us.
Speaker 3: Well, he's got a lot of that. He's got a
Speaker 3: lot of that.
Speaker 2: And so once he gets it through the House, right
Speaker 2: where you guys have what right now, maybe a one
Speaker 2: member majority.
Speaker 7: Two member majority, yep, we can lose basically, could lose two.
Speaker 2: And then what are the prospects as you get into
Speaker 2: the Senate, into this crazy reconciliation process, and how long
Speaker 2: is that likely to take?
Speaker 7: Well, we'd like to have the whole thing done, you know, certainly,
Speaker 7: certainly by May. I think, you know, the time is ticking.
Speaker 7: I think the original goal is to have it all
Speaker 7: done by April, you know, through the reconciliation process, completely done,
Speaker 7: but you know, might slip into May. But we've got
Speaker 7: to get it done soon. I mean, those tax cuts
Speaker 7: that you know are expiring, you know, we want people
Speaker 7: we want the economy to roar, and we want it
Speaker 7: to do it right away. We don't want to wait
Speaker 7: and you know, have it take effect you know maybe
Speaker 7: next year, late next year. We want it right away.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and we talked so much about the big
Speaker 2: beautiful bill, but not what's in it so often.
Speaker 3: So what are the highlights?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, all this thing does right now the
Speaker 7: Budget Resolution does is it says, you know, it says
Speaker 7: that the Ways and Means Committee is going to go
Speaker 7: and extend the tax cuts that we're going to you know,
Speaker 7: go find money in The Natural Resources Committee, for instance,
Speaker 7: has to go find almost a trillion dollars nine hundred
Speaker 7: billion dollars. Now they're likely to do that by going
Speaker 7: and you know, figuring out how to drill for oil
Speaker 7: and natural gas on public land leases and things like that.
Speaker 7: So it sets the sets us up as a country
Speaker 7: to be able to go out and really reprioritize you know,
Speaker 7: obviously we'd be spending more money on border security, on
Speaker 7: so many of these things, and it will increase defense
Speaker 7: spending by about one hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 3: Let me do a hard turn for a second.
Speaker 2: Congressman Jeff crank Our guest, I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: even seen this story. This afternoon, President Trump to offer him,
Speaker 2: quoting Bloomberg, gold card visas for five million to the rich,
Speaker 2: and that's Bloomberg spent on it. But as I understand
Speaker 2: the President's proposal, it would be five million dollars to
Speaker 2: get legal status in the US, and the intent would
Speaker 2: be to attract wealthy job creators while raising money for
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 3: Your take on that, well.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean, I guess it's fun for
Speaker 7: us for a starting point, right for us to talk
Speaker 7: about that, And you know, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 7: know how I would react to that. I guess I just,
Speaker 7: you know, just having heard it today, we can talk
Speaker 7: about it. It's it's kind of like people I get
Speaker 7: asked about birthright citizenship and I said, look, at least
Speaker 7: the President is throwing it out there and talking about it,
Speaker 7: and I think that's a good thing, right.
Speaker 2: And Congressman, you know where I think people maybe misunderstand
Speaker 2: the discussion on birthright citizenship because I ran into this
Speaker 2: at the dinner table myself, is that when we talk
Speaker 2: about and I don't know where you come down on this,
Speaker 2: as I view it, just legally. I think there is
Speaker 2: no chance whatsoever that the drafters intended that there be
Speaker 2: automatic citizenship to somebody born in the country of folks
Speaker 2: here illegally. I mean, no matter what somebody thinks the
Speaker 2: policy should be, I don't think there's any credible argument
Speaker 2: that that's what the drafters intended. But I think where
Speaker 2: the confusion arises is, Okay, I come home and we're
Speaker 2: having dinner, and one of my family members was aghast
Speaker 2: because they thought I was saying that everybody who had
Speaker 2: been made an American citizen to this point based on
Speaker 2: birthright would lose their citizenship. And I'm not suggesting that
Speaker 2: at all. I'm just suggesting we'd be honest about the
Speaker 2: law and about the fact the intent never was to
Speaker 2: create this automatic birthright citizenship and then move forward from there,
Speaker 2: but not revoke citizenship for everybody who already has it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I totally agree that, like sort of, that's probably
Speaker 7: a very good way to do it right and moving forward.
Speaker 7: This is what was intended, right, and we just haven't
Speaker 7: even had that discussion. So yeah, I think it's great that,
Speaker 7: you know, President Trump has brought this up as an
Speaker 7: issue and we're you know, we're working to, you know,
Speaker 7: work through that, and it's gonna have to work its
Speaker 7: way through the course. This is an issue that's really
Speaker 7: never been decided, and I think it's high time that
Speaker 7: it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I really like about President
Speaker 2: Trump is just the fresh thinking.
Speaker 3: Okay. I mean this whole idea of.
Speaker 2: Selling legal status for five million, two wealthy people who
Speaker 2: then will be job creators. Here, it's a fresh idea,
Speaker 2: right And now as I dive into it, maybe I
Speaker 2: find something I don't like, But I just like the
Speaker 2: fact he has these fresh ideas. And when a fresh
Speaker 2: idea then hits, it can change a lot of things
Speaker 2: in a hurry.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, it sure can, It sure can. And that's
Speaker 7: that's one of the refreshing things I think right about
Speaker 7: the President and what he's done over the last month.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's shaken the system to a poor and
Speaker 7: people don't like that. I understand. Change is uncomfortable, especially
Speaker 7: when you know sort of violent change, you know, when
Speaker 7: it was the sort of violent shape the system, which
Speaker 7: is which is what President Trump is doing right now.
Speaker 7: But it's good. I think it's good for us to
Speaker 7: figure that out. And by the way, let me just
Speaker 7: tell you, Dan, this is how life of a member
Speaker 7: of Congress goes. I left the floor, I called you,
Speaker 7: walk back to my office. I walk in and they said,
Speaker 7: go back to the floor. You're going to bumb out
Speaker 7: on the budget resolution. So get them we figured it out,
Speaker 7: and I thought a few minutes, but they probably did
Speaker 7: figure it out. My hope is that we will have
Speaker 7: the votes to pass it tonight.
Speaker 3: Well, I sure hope.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Hey, always great to talk to you. Of course, always
Speaker 2: an open door here, So look forward to the next one.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 7: I really appreciate you, thanks for all you do, and
Speaker 7: anytime I can come on and talk with you, I'd
Speaker 7: love to do it.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Congressman, look forward to it. You take care, sir.
Speaker 2: That's Congressman Jeff crank. Hey, when we come back, we
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Speaker 8: Tony Egers of Wisconsin just tried to erase mothers institive.
Speaker 8: Using the word mother. He crossed out mother and put
Speaker 8: persons who are inseminated persons who can be insuminated, or
Speaker 8: person who gave first, parent who gave first anything but
Speaker 8: say mother woman. Those are words he can't say because
Speaker 8: the woke won't let him. Folk won't let us define
Speaker 8: what a woman is. A biological female with a uterus
Speaker 8: and two ovaries who gives birth to a child.
Speaker 3: Only a woman can.
Speaker 8: That's a female. That's what I am. I'm a mom,
Speaker 8: a mom of five kids in Wisconsin, and Governor Evers,
Speaker 8: you are not going to erase me, and you are
Speaker 8: not going to race all the moms in Wisconsin. You
Speaker 8: are not going to erase women. We're not going to
Speaker 8: let you.
Speaker 2: You know, I think America are enough of America is
Speaker 2: starting to understand that the modern left, the modern Democratic Party,
Speaker 2: is one big war on girls and women in so
Speaker 2: many different ways. Before birth, right where their sacred cow
Speaker 2: is this insane policy where you have what at least
Speaker 2: six seven hundred thousand females a year killed before they're born,
Speaker 2: and then after that, the war on safe spaces for
Speaker 2: girls and women, the war on sports for girls and women.
Speaker 3: You know, girls and women now I mean motherhood.
Speaker 2: Obviously, it's one of the most impressive, grandest proudest things
Speaker 2: in world history, and now it's being reduced to inseminated
Speaker 2: person can't even say mother. I mean, there are just
Speaker 2: so many ways it's a war on women. And I
Speaker 2: think that's one of the reasons you start to see
Speaker 2: voters peeling off from the Democratic Party because as a
Speaker 2: former Democrat, I can tell you so much of that
Speaker 2: was voting based on habits, So much of that was
Speaker 2: voting based on the negative stereotype of the GOP. So
Speaker 2: much of that was based on maybe some good things
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party did in the past, but the modern
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, more and more people are getting hip to it.
Speaker 3: I think more and more women are.
Speaker 2: Getting hip that it's one big war on girls and women.
Speaker 2: Where is the respect for girls and women? I mean,
Speaker 2: look at what's happening in Colorado, and this issue at
Speaker 2: Columbine that we're spending so much time on is completely nonpartisan, bipartisan,
Speaker 2: but we're always going to be honest and we cannot
Speaker 2: ignore the fact we have a true crisis in Colorado
Speaker 2: when it comes to teachers sexually abusing students. And it's
Speaker 2: a very small percentage, right, and the vast majority of
Speaker 2: teachers are fantastic, but it's still a crisis, and yet
Speaker 2: police ignores it, and Wiser ignores it. And you know
Speaker 2: where's the DA in jeffco on this Columbine thing. We
Speaker 2: cannot escape the reality that the Democratic Party is totally
Speaker 2: in bed with the teachers' union.
Speaker 3: And does that.
Speaker 2: Explain why are democratically elected governor and attorney general. It
Speaker 2: just seems so disinterested in this crisis we have of students,
Speaker 2: many many, many of them female, being sexually preyed upon
Speaker 2: by teachers. This should be a front and center crisis.
Speaker 2: But the Democrats in control in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the irony right that they are obviously in bed
Speaker 2: with the teachers' union, and you just have to believe
Speaker 2: that is why they're not jumping on this. Here's an example, right,
Speaker 2: Can you imagine? And I'm so grateful and proud to
Speaker 2: be Catholic and we had this horrible thing happen in
Speaker 2: our church where one of the worst things imaginable. You
Speaker 2: had some priests who were sexually abusing children. That's straight
Speaker 2: out of hell. It's one of the worst things imaginable.
Speaker 2: It's no reflection on priesthood as a whole. It was
Speaker 2: a relatively small number, but even one is way too
Speaker 2: much evil. Can you imagine replace the numbers right now
Speaker 2: that we see in Colorado of students sexually abused by teachers.
Speaker 2: Imagine if that was priest. You can bet Wiser and
Speaker 2: Polists they would be front and center every day. It
Speaker 2: would be the number one crisis in the state. They'd
Speaker 2: be pulling out every stop legally to absolutely make this
Speaker 2: the centerpiece of everybody's attention. But because it's teachers and
Speaker 2: police and Wiser in bed with the teachers' union, you
Speaker 2: don't hear a peep from them one way or the other.
Speaker 2: No matter who the purp is, it's evil and it's wrong. Now,
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church got a grip on that horror, right,
Speaker 2: but we don't have a grip yet on the horror
Speaker 2: of the sexual abuse of children by some teachers because
Speaker 2: the party in power won't deal with it because it's
Speaker 2: their sacred Kyle.
Speaker 3: The teachers' union, that's sick. That's sick.
Speaker 2: But this Columbine story, it crosses all party lines. And
Speaker 2: this is not left or right, it's right or wrong,
Speaker 2: and all good people should come together to demand the truth.
Speaker 2: And if you're new to the story, please four thirty
Speaker 2: six Alison Browner joined us and we got into a
Speaker 2: deep dive discussion of it. You can pick it off
Speaker 2: the podcast. And then the mother of this child, fifteen
Speaker 2: year old girl targeted by a female teacher over twenty
Speaker 2: thousand texts. The female teacher goes to another teacher, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, official Columbine certifies this fifteen
Speaker 2: year old who's being preyed upon is homeless when she
Speaker 2: comes from a great supportive home, so they can move
Speaker 2: her out of the home. And then the day she graduates,
Speaker 2: she moves away with the teacher and now the parents
Speaker 2: desperately trying to get her back. This should never happen
Speaker 2: again in a Colorado school. So the mother of that
Speaker 2: student victim, the mother who's fought so courageously, will join
Speaker 2: us in studio next Monday. Ryan, thanks your great work
Speaker 2: today as always, Kelly, you as well, and we'll keep
Speaker 2: up the fight on this. We just want the truth,
Speaker 2: whole truth, nothing but the truth. We want it on
Speaker 2: the table and then make sure this never happens again.
Speaker 2: Thanks your time. Join me tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show.
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