Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Indeed, off of a weekend that has seen no winner.
In the main event for Manny Pacquiao and Mario Barrios,
as the pac Man came out of a four year
retirement at forty six years of age, woke good, showed
some stamina, but ultimately didn't do enough to sway the
judges to get his hand raised for the WBC welterweight title.
Mario Barrios retains he did enough, especially late in the fight,
to keep his title via a majority drawl. We're ready
to talk about that. We're ready to talk about Alexander
the Great. Alexander Usik of Ukraine makes it six or
six in the modern here against the British heavyweight fighters
as he knocks out and ends any doubt about whether
he's the undisputed heavyweight champ, beating Daniel Dubois in the
fifth round at Wimbley Stadium once and for all, silencing
all the chirping about how Dubois might have some chance
this goal round against a guy that right now, in
the modern history of the heavyweight division of the last
ten or fifteen years, you got to say this is
the guy, this is the guy. Why Because Anthony Joshua
looked like he might be the guy. Tyson Ferior looked
like he might be the guy. In both of their cases,
they've lost twice and now Dubois lost twice. Usick again
six and zero world heavyweight title fights with yet another
win in an all time place in history for him
as a cruiserweight undisputed champion, a heavyweight undisputed champion. We're
gonna talk more about that fight, recap the whole weekend.
Great win for Sebastian Fundora. Back to Las Vegas and
the Pacqui al Barrios card, Fundora defeating Tim Zu for
the second time by knockout. I'll be the first one
to admit I thought Zoo would get his revenge in
this battle with Hondora, the six foot six inch junior middleweight,
but Fondora was too good, too strong, and made Zu
quit on the stool. So we're ready to talk about
that as well. Plus Jesse Bam Rodriguez becomes unified at
one hundred and fifth dean pounds at junior bantamweight with
a tenth round TKO win in his title fight with
a South African little known opponent named Kafu in Frisco, Texas,
so we are ready to recap all of that. It
is the Fight Freaks U Night Recap. I am merely
the somewhat competent host TJ Reeves a little different version
of the recap pod here because we have done the
recap of the fights late night Saturday night on YouTube,
and because our insider Dan Rayfield is traveling, He's not
with me live live right now on this podcast. However,
through the magic of audio, through the magic of producing
a show and editing a show, You're gonna hear everything
from Dan with his thoughts on what he witnessed first hand.
With Pacquiao's return the battle with Barrios, Dan, I will
tell you on the front end believes the decision was wrong, wrong,
and that Manny Pakiao should have gotten his hand raised
and become the second oldest world champion in the history
of boxing, only only Ian Bernard Hopkins. You're gonna hear
him talking about that. So you'll hear from Dan on
that subject. The rest of the fight card, including Fondora's win,
Isaac Pittbull Cruise winning on the undercard, what else he
thought of the undercard there? Dan will have thoughts as well.
On Alexander Usik's knockout win of Daniel Dubois. We'll go
over all of that, replay the comments from the YouTube
show right here on the pot so you get all
of Dan's inside if you did not catch it, and
again be with us on YouTube for unique and different content. Previews, recaps,
nostalgia segments go to our Big Fight Weekend YouTube page,
but we also give you unique content on the podcast
feed to that in first time that you're going to
hear from Xander Ziaz, the unbeaten Puerto Rican American who
will now battle for the vacant WBO version of the
one hundred and fifty four pound title. This is the
belt that Sebastian Fondora gave up when he did not
want to fight Zias in a two belt title fight
with Zias being the mandatory challenger or at least being
the number one fighter, so he instead won to fight
Tim Zoo in the rematch, so Fondora had to vacate,
and now Xander Ziaz will fight Jorgey Garcia of Mexico,
who stunningly upset Charles Conwell of the United States earlier
this year, beating Conwell by decision and taking Conwell's opportunity
to fight for the vacant title. As it turns out,
so this bout will be the main event for the
final ESPN Top Ranked boxing card it would appear for now,
the contract is running out here on July thirty first,
at the end of the month, so Zias will be
the answer for the trivia question for the time being
on what was the last fight on the decade long
relationship recent relationship for Top Rank and ESPN. Top Rank
and ESPN actually have a relationship going back to the
nineteen eighties on and off and the Friday Night fights
and other fight segments. So Zias will fight in New
York against Garcia in the main event. You'll hear from
Xander Zaiez right here with Dan Rayfield a conversation they
just had late last week as he gets ready to
go for a world championship, the unbeaten Puerto Rican at
one hundred and fifty four pounds fighting there in New York,
kind of a home away from home at the Madison
Square Garden Theater. Hear that conversation on the pod. Also
here on the pod, we will go back to the
Saturday Night Live recap and get some comments from our
Big Fight Weekend lead writer and SIT editor Ricky Carroll.
Ricky is based in Europe, and he'll give his thoughts
on U six's win over Dubois U Sik's place in history.
He's really been dissecting it on the website. You'll hear
what Ricky has to say about does he belong in
a heavyweight top ten list? I can tell you Dan
Rayfield is set on this pod and on our shows,
he does not have him in a top ten, even
off this victory. Still needs to see more top ten
all time we're talking about. If we're talking about in
the present, he is certainly the premiere heavyweight of the
last ten years, going back to the end of the
reign of the Clitch goes in the in the TWENTYDS
and the twenty tens, going back before that to Lennox
Lewis and battling with Evander Holyfield and before that Mike Tyson, etc.
You now come into the modern for Anthony Joshua, for
Tyson Pury. This guy's better than both of them. He'd
beat them both twice, as I said earlier in the pod.
So rick you'll have some more thoughts and comments on
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all right, So let's get into it. Twelve round draw
off for Paqui how and Barrios. Let's relive the recap
as we did this live on Saturday night again. To
set the scene, Dan was live at the MGM Grand
Garden Arena in the arena in Las Vegas, and we're
gonna pick up he and I talking about the fight
here when Dan was in the media center after everything
was over and after the press conference was over for
Mario Barrios and Manny Pacqui How when things were done
late late Saturday night Pacific time, way in the wee
hours of the morning Sunday morning Eastern and Central time,
So let's rejoin the conversation that will begin with Dan's
thoughts on Pacquiao and Barrios and what happens now? Does
Pacquiao keep fight at fighting? Dan will have his say
so on that. Dan will also have thoughts on Fondora's
win in the co feature fight in Vegas over Tim Zoo.
Where does Fondora go from here? Is that it for
Tim zu basically on the main stage, It certainly appears.
We talked to Dan about that, and the rest of
the undercard have thoughts on Usik and Dubois and Usik's
smashing knockout win in London Saturday night, the London time,
Saturday afternoon US time. Let's get to all of that
right now here on the Fight Freaks HUW night recap,
as we began with the conversation about Pakiao and Barrios
and the draw on the paki. How Barrios the arena
channing for paki? How give us a bigger taste? We
saw it on the TV, but you were there on
how amazing at forty six that he lasted the twelve
rounds and was that competitive? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: When they announced the scores and they called it a draw.
It was like the entire building filled up with the
announced crowd was over thirteen thousand. That the air just
got sucked out of it in a minute, because the
disappointment was palpable, whether you were rooting for Manny or
you were like many of the people in the media
section who we all had many winning the fight. A
few people had a draw there, but a lot of
people had it was like seven five eighty four, nine
to three, and it was very shocked when not only
was it a drub, but one of the judges actually
had given it to Mario Barrio So that was a
big surprise. You know. We were all kind of girding
for a Pacyo win because it just felt like he
was in even though Barrios did a good job in
the in the last couple of rounds of the fight, fine,
but for my purposes, I didn't think it was enough
to actually get the win. In the end, it turn
out to be a draw and we just wrapped up
the press conference. So Barrios I came here, he said
he would give him a rematch if that's what if
that's what Manny wanted. When he was done, Nanny Paco
addressed everybody, answered questions, and he basically said I'm back,
like in other words, is not a one shot deal.
He plans to fight again. He would be happy to
do a rematch, he said. Somebody asked HI about Floyd Mayweather.
Obviously he said, look, he's retired, but he wants to
come out of retirement. I'm happy to fight him. But
as he said multiple times, the pac Man.
Speaker 2: Is back, interesting and especially as good as he looked
throughout the middle of the fight. Especially and again, and
we should point out a lot of live audiences joined
us since we were talking about this at the very
beginning of the show. On the official cards, all three
judges gave Barrios the tenth, the eleventh, and the twelfth.
He was down two points on one card, down three
points on the other two cards. That's what saved him,
I mean, that's that kept this from being a Pacquio victory.
And had he gotten the victory, it would have been historic.
Say that again for the audience on what was on
the line. Had Pacqui how gotten two of those judges
to go for in tonight, that didn't help.
Speaker 3: If he had one, obviously, the crowd would have been
ecstatic number one, But from a historical perspective, he would
have broken his own record as the oldest fighter to
win his other right world title. He had set that
record when he defeated Keith Thurman at age forty now
would be aged forty six. He also would have been
the second oldest fighter in boxing history to win a
major world title. He would have been right behind Bernard
Hopkins in between the two times that Bernard Hopkins did that.
Any age forty eight and know a couple years older
than that, So that was a that's a big historical
sort of you know milestone. That's anybody could have. But
it was very Look I asked Manny at the presscerm
and said, I know you didn't win the fight, and
so you're disappointed that you didn't get to win and
that you didn't get the title, But do you take
any solace from that you didn't lose? I mean, you
were the underdog substantially in some markets. People thought you
were gonna get you know, be an old man and
get punched up, and and you did. You know, you
look good. You know a lot of us we all
thought you won the fight. So do you take any
silver lining in that. He was like, you know, he
thought about it. He's like, you know, I'm just I'm
glad that we put on a good fight. I did
the best I could. He said that a few different times.
I did. I did my best, and most of us
thought it was good enough. Two of the judges didn't.
Speaker 2: Dan Big Dan Rayfield is in Vegas for just a
few more minutes. Here. I want your thought on the
cod feature win by Sebastian Fundora, who scores a TKO
over Tim Zoo. He dropped Zoo in the first with
a straight left hand. He heard him a couple of
other times. Zoo actually rallied some in the fifth round,
rallied in the seventh round. Great toe to toe action
in the seventh round, and then Dan Zoo looked like
he was somewhat concussed. At the end of the seventh round.
He was confused in his corner, like do I sit down?
Do I stand here? I'm just saying that just watching
it on TV, I don't know what you saw in
the arena. And then they wave the fight off in
between rounds. What's your reaction? Most importantly, Fondora won the fight,
what's your reaction?
Speaker 3: I thought Fondora fought a great fight. I mean the
first time around. There was obviously the massive gash that
he suffered at the end of the second round. That
totally changed a fight, because through round one and most
of round two, as we've discussed, I thought Fundora was
getting his ass kicked in that final I thought Zoo
was about to stop him. But no such issue this time.
There was no You can't complain about short notice because
that last night was made on ten days notice. It's
a lot easier for Frondora, I believe, to adjust to
a Zoo sized opponent than it would have been for
Zoo to adjust to the gigantic six foot six Fundora
on short notice. Couldn't use that as an excuse. There
was no cut or anything like that in this particular fight,
and he had plenty of time to prepare for the fight.
Zuo was just not as good as Fundora tonight. Obviously.
I thought he got battered, he got beat down, he
got bloodied, and I think I think him and his
team just realized I can't do anything. I'm not there's
no I have no there's no I have no answers
for anything, so I don't I didn't see the video.
I don't know if it was the trainer that pulled
him at or Zoo himself.
Speaker 2: So he walked back to the corner. This is on
the video. He's standing there in the corner Dan and
I'm describing this for the audience that probably saw it,
and it almost looked like he didn't know what to do.
Do I sit down? Do I turn around and go
back out because he might hit me. It's like he
didn't know where he was for a moment.
Speaker 3: Who stops?
Speaker 2: This is Zoo. So they spun him around, they sat
him down, they're talking to him. They waved the referee
over and then one of the cornerman's doing this and
the referee stuck his head in and I think asked
Zu do you want to go on? And Zu said no.
So it was it was definitely uh Fondora's night. So
that leads to the logical question, what is this set
up for him? In your mind? In a in a
very deep junior middleweight division, What is it set up
for Fundora now that he gets the second win over Zoom?
Speaker 3: Well, the big thing about Fundora's he you know, he
was asked because he's been after the fight against you
the first time. You know, we've discussed how he he
didn't really have a serious noise injury from what he said.
He said he arrested for a couple of weeks and
he was fine, and he still hadn't didn't fight for
a year. Uh. He said he wants to fight another
time this year, maybe even twice more if he could
do it. So he wants to get right back in there.
He says, I'm going to fight any of the top
guys out there. Uh, you know, there was there, there
were there's as we know, there's a lot of good
talent in the fight in the way class. He did
mention about he's gonna be paying close attention to the
fight that will take place this coming Saturday. I forget
if it's Friday or Saturday with Xanders Ayas going for
the vacant WBO title that he vacated to take this
rematch that you had the right to. So he said,
maybe I'll try to get my old belt back, so
that would be a f to go watch closely, and
that'll be something very interesting. But it's a great weight
class right now, and Fandora clearly stands at the top
of that group right now.
Speaker 2: All right. I want your thoughts from earlier in the
night London time in the afternoon US time on Alexander
Usik's fifth round KO win over Daniel Dubois. We both
thought Usik would win and win by knockout. He did.
It took a little bit to ramp up, but man,
he leveled Dublin in the fifth round. What are your thoughts? Dan?
Speaker 3: Wasn't a surprise for me at all. Alexanderstik is a
much better fighter in every phase of the game. Maybe
not for one punch pure power, but the problem with
dubas he doesn't know how to deliver it consistently. In
terms of putting his punches together. It's kind of one
shot at a time. Now when he lands, he can
do major, major damage. But against a brilliant defensive master
who knows every angle and every milk and cranny, you know,
it's a one in a million pretty much to land
that shot. He was not able to do it, and
he doesn't have the best chin in the world, and
when he finally was getting cracked, it was I felt
like a matter of time. It was a brillion performance
for music. As he said in his post fight, he's
thirty eight but he's not old. You know, what can
you say? He was? He put on a great performance.
He went and again he did it in the other
guy's hometown. London is where where Danielduba is from. He's
fought all over the globe in everybody else's hometown and
he's kicked everybody's ass basically, so he is clearly the
heavyweight of this era. He's beating Tyson Fury twice, He's
beating Daniel Dubat twice, he's beating Anthony Joshua twice. He
was the undisputed cruiserweight champion. You know, he's He's a
great fighter, and the story. The only thing that there
is to discuss about Bostick is where do you put
him among the all time great heavyweights. That's the question.
I've had my say about that. I may have to
revisit my scenario. I'd like to see him fight. People
get saying, well, who's he gonna fight next. I saw
some discussion maybe you know, because Perry said he's gonna
end at extit retirement and he and Turkey were talking
about trying to make that match for April, and nothing
against Fury, but I don't need to see the third
Fury fight right away. Give me a fresh guy that
deserves this. Give me a Joseph Parker, or there you go,
give me an ag Caviel who earned it. Give me
one of those types of fighters. And by the way, Parker,
he is the mandatory. The WBO is gonna press that
he allowed this fight to take place. They're not gonna
mess around. And I hate to see usik as undisputed
once again, come off that win and get stripped of
a belt by an organization for no real reason.
Speaker 2: How realistic is a Parker fight in your mind? On
a scale of one to ten? Is that a seven?
Is that a five? Is it an eight?
Speaker 3: I'm not doing numbers, but yeah, that think is absolutely
possible if he wants to keep the belts. Parker's a
worthy challenger. He's a former champion, he's the current interim champion.
He's with Frank Warren now well Alexanderusiks not with Warren,
but they've done a lot of business together. It's a
very makeable fight. I don't think it's gonna be the
kind of fight where Joe Parker. If you look at
the type of guys he's fought, he's not gonna price
some stop out. He wants the opportunity. There's no reason
why that fight shouldn't happen, and it would be it's
not gonna maybe draw ninety thousand, but okay, not every
fight's gonna draw ninety thousand.
Speaker 2: Well, and it may be back at Sauny Arabia for
the lucrative money as part of the read season in
the winter December January something like that. At that fight.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that that if Turkey's putting on those
types of shows in Saudi, that he wouldn't want to
have Alexander Russeg defending the undisputed title in Saudi Arabia
against a very worthy fighter. And keep in mind Busik
has scored his wins against Tyson Fury in Saudi Arabia.
He also has, you know, as Turkey has put Joseph
Parker on cards in Saudi Arabia where he defeated Deanthay
Wilder and has also had another victory. So no reason
why they shouldn't make that fight. Clearly, clearly, that should
be the next EVUE championship fighting.
Speaker 2: All right, real quick. Neither one of us was able
to watch the Bam Rodriguez victory. We can't comment on
how he did what he did. He did win by
TKO tonight Dan in the tenth round over Kafu, the
South African. It makes him to unified junior bantamweight champion.
So just say something because again we can't analyze the fight.
You and I didn't see it. I've seen the highighlight
of the of the bizarre tko where he hurt Cafu.
I don't know if you've seen this, Dame, and they
fell each other kind of like a football tackle. Then
Cafu's got no legs, he's wobbly. The ref waves him off,
so it was kind of weird.
Speaker 3: I've not seen one. The only thing that, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Weird Howida ended. But what about the significance of the
win for Rodriguez and the future and what he's got coming.
Speaker 3: Well, the future has said he won the fight. I
don't know. I assume he's not injured, which is good,
and so he'll move on to November twenty second. He'll
be in the three belt unification fight with Fernando Martinez,
which is a tremendous matchup, and that'll be one of
the fights on that very deep threat season card. That
will also include David Benavidez against Anthony Ard and h
and Brian Norman against Devin Haney and the fight between
the young guys Sam Noakes and uh and Uh Bill A.
Mason for the vacant wb A lightweight title. And then
you add you add CAFU, I mean not CAFU. You
had Bam Rodriguez in the unification against Martinez, and that's
a that's a great show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again that's coming in No so bamb will
be right back. He's an exciting fighter. There's no doubt.
Aren't any other final thoughts from Vegas. I will say
to the audience, We're going to do a full podcast
recap that'll be out on the normal timeline. We're just
doing this live after the fights. You said you were
around Many Pacquial after this was over with, and you believe,
just repeat it, you believe he's gonna continue to fight.
He's gonna fight again, perhaps with Barrios, perhaps with somebody else.
Speaker 3: Right, it's not a matter that I believe it. Many
said it multiple times. He said literally and I quote,
the pac Man is back. So he has every intention
of fighting again. I can't tell you if it'll be
again later this year. Although that said, look, PBC does
not have a lot of inventory. If you will to
headline a pay per view card, obviously many packyoken. I
mean me, they'll look at the results of how this
event did. But if they can secure the proper opponent,
I can absolutely see Manny, you know, in the fourth quarter,
possibly in another fight here in Las Vegas. You know,
I guess you know, some good quality, reputable opponent. He's
not looking to fight nobody's He either wants to fight
and big names or fight for titles. He's you know,
he's in the wealthyweight division. To bring him on, he said.
Speaker 2: Any other closing thoughts, anything else being out there for
the return of Paqui, how it does in controversially in
the draw, anything else on the card, anything else for
left Hard.
Speaker 3: There were some good performances in the preliminaries too. I
mean Gary Russell looked really good in the comeback after
three and a half years, scored a knockout, not against
the top upon it, but he looked sharp. I thought
that was good. Mark Macsaia, who was the Filipino that
worships Mannipacia, had a very exciting but one sided win
and in his fight as a former featherweight champion now
at fighting at the junior lightweight limit. So he did
what he was supposed to do. So all in all,
I thought it was it was a very entertaining part
the figure o A fight against Joet Gonzales. I thought
Joette Finean got a little bit hosed in that fight.
That was really close. I felt bad Joette, you know,
just as a hard luck loser in some of the
fights he's dropped. But I will say this, between the
three fight preliminary card and the four fight pay per
view card, this was a very good event topped about him.
Every single fight was worthwhile to watch.
Speaker 2: Pitt Bull cruise also current junior to Wayne Over the
last minute.
Speaker 3: Look south Sado was a little overmatched. I thought he
also took the fight on one day's notice. But it
was also the same thing for Pitbull. You remember he
wasn't taken on a one day notice, like he wasn't training.
He was in an eight rounder on the undercart. He
just moved up, but he just was outclassed. He seemed
a little bit guns Yes, he was holding a lot
and even with that happened, Pitbull still made it fun
to watch, so again I thoroughly enjoyed the event.
Speaker 2: And by the way, again Fondorra and Zoo had just
heated up in that seventh round and then again Zoo
was was taking some shots at the end of the round.
And I think this is worth saying, and we'll follow
up on the podcast. At this point, you wonder where
Tim Zoo goes from here. He's been beaten repeatedly. He's
been knocked out again, second time, he's been knocked out
since last fall when martaz Alaye knocked him out. I
don't know where he goes from here at this point
on big stage.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have nothing but good wishes for whatever
he does. And I'm not saying he should retire, but
his time near the top Rafterdavus Dog that would never
be at that level again.
Speaker 2: And we can stop all the comparisons to his dad
and blah blah blah blah blah, because he just at
the biggest moments here. He's been beaten and beaten badly. Tonight.
The story again is the controversy. Dan believes Manny Pacquiao
was the winner. I understand that he looked good at
forty six years of age incredible that he was able
to go to the twelve rounds. We wondered. We have
the answer. He was able to go the twelve rounds
with Mario Barrios. Will we see him again? We'll find out.
All right, let's do this. You regroup, get yourself back
to Northern Virginia. It's gonna be a fun day of
travel for you. And why don't we reconvene on the
Big Fight weekend capping podcast, the Fight Freaks to Night
recap podcast off the weekend. I appreciate you being live
in the press room at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Good stuff here tonight, anything else We good tonight from Vegas.
Speaker 3: I'm out baby, And.
Speaker 2: Again as we come back in here on the pod
that is from our YouTube page and our live recap
that we did late night Saturday night and the Sunday morning.
Dan again is traveling all Sunday afternoon and Sunday evening,
so we went ahead and wanted to put this recap
pod out. He'll be back with us in the preview
mode later in the week. And the most prominent fight
that we're previewing is Xander Zaiez going for a world
Championship in the ESPN Top Rank main event Madison Square
Garden Theater, fighting a lesser known Mexican, a guy that's
thirty four and three and Jorge Garcia. Garcia upset Charles
Conwell back in February and is taking Conwell's spot here
in this interim title fight with Ziaz, who comes in
here with a twenty one to zero record. Ziaz defeated
Sean Spomer earlier this year by TKO has headlined now
a couple of times in New York. He's got a
chance to be a world champion, got a chance to
be a player at one hundred and fifty four pounds.
So before we get into the full fight week, let's
go to our insider Dan Rayfield with Ziaz about this
matchup and what's on. I'm the line here especially for
future Big Time pay Day's unification, et cetera. If he
can get the win here you go.
Speaker 3: Well, it is my great pleasure to welcome back to
our podcast this week. It is Xander Zias. Xander, We've
done this before, but this one's a little bit different.
We'll tell the folks we've talked about your fights before,
but this time you're getting ready for I think we
can agree your biggest fight of your career so far,
You'll be taking on Jorge Garcia for the vacant WBO
Junior Middleweight world title. It will take place July twenty sixth,
headlining the ESPN Top Rank card at the Madison Square
Guarded Theater, a place you're very familiar with. So tell
me just first off, again, you've been doing interviews getting
ready for this fight. It's a little bit different, isn't
it as you think about what might be in store
for you on that night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so if you I mean it is a
bit different because obviously, like you said, is the biggest
fight of my career, fighting for a world title, something
that I've been working for since I'm literally five years old,
since I've started boxing. You know, that's the dream of
every fighter to become WOR world champion, and I have
my opportunity on July twenty six But in the other sense,
it's for me, it's just another fight, another night at
the Garden. I've been there before. There's gonna be my
eighth time, so nothing new. I got to go in there,
do my job, say focus, maybe a judgments, and then
come out victorious.
Speaker 3: Well, when you signed with Top Rank, and I remember
being at the press conference, you were sixteen years old.
They were like, look, he's sixteen, but he's not even
gonna turn professional until he's seventeen. You've done your part,
Your team has done its part. Top Rank has done
its part. You're now twenty two years old, you're undefeated,
you've looked good, You've climbed up the ladder, You've fought
who you have to fight. We've got all kinds of
experience now and now here we are five years later,
you're getting ready to fight for a German Await world title.
So and then doing it a place like the Madison
Square Guard in theater that I know is important to you.
If I sent to you on that day at the
press conference at age sixteen, hey, five years from now
you're fighting for the world title at the Madison Square
Guard theater. You're undefeated in your headlining, you know, a
big card. How would you have reacted? What would you
have said?
Speaker 4: Well, maybe if you put it that way five years ago,
I would have said, yes, I will be fighting for
a world champion in five.
Speaker 1: Years, but probably not at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 4: You know, never thought it was going to be in
at the theater, or you know, with the circumstances that
are happening, you know, headlining the last card on ESPN.
You know, at a lot of things are happening that
maybe I didn't expect five years ago. But I knew
that if I stayed the course and if I stay focused,
I was going to be fighting for a world tider
sooner than later.
Speaker 3: So I remember, Xander in one of our previous interviews,
we did it and you sat in front of a
looked like a bookshelf and you had your regional titles stack,
and we kind of chatted a little bit about that,
and you mentioned to me, you know, these are important
to me. I've worked for them. They're They're a way
to tell me that I'm making my way up the ladder.
But I want the big boy belts. Yes, now you're
one fight from winning and getting the big Boy Belt,
one of the big boy belts. And how does that
feel knowing that you can now have that if you win,
to put in that beautiful bookshelf for those other nice
title belts.
Speaker 1: No, it feels amazing.
Speaker 4: And I'm right now the background is not the same
because I'm in my camp house. For the first time
in my career, I moved to to a camp house,
so I got the nutritionist, all the sparing partners here,
so we all living together for this camp. But yes,
really exciting. Like I told you before, something that I've
worked for my whole life. You know, before the world
titles is the regional belts. I got those. Now I
have to add the big boy belts like you said,
and then the WBO is the first one.
Speaker 1: So really exciting.
Speaker 4: And just happy to be in this place, in this
position at twenty two years old.
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk a little about your opponent, Jorgey Garcia.
He is thirty three four thirty three and four with
twenty six knockouts. He has won eight fights in a row.
He's coming off by far and away, the biggest win
of his career. He scored that split decision victory in
a really good performance. He deserved that split decision, at
least in my estimation against the unbeating the Olympian United
States Olympian Charles Conwell, you know, to put him in
the position within the WO ratings, and I wonder, like,
how do you approach him. He's on a hot streak.
He's got confidence off that victory. Xander. He's got more
knockouts twenty six than you have professional fights, which is
twenty one. He seems like he's got momentum in a
lot going for him the same way that you do.
Speaker 1: No, I'm obviously exciting.
Speaker 4: He like you said, he deserves his victory against Cornwall,
he did serve his shot out of world title.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because a year ago we were sitting down.
Speaker 4: Looking at the rankings and my dad we have a
conversation that I think I have to say, I have
to look for it. But he sent me a screenshot
and I think I was number eight and Horygard Ship
Prayers was like either.
Speaker 1: Nine or or eleven.
Speaker 4: Or something like that, and he told me, this is
who you're going to be fighting for the world title.
And I'm like, there's no way, like this kid, like,
how is it gonna be possible? I mean, at that time,
I think Tim Zu is still the WO champ and
and you know, a lot of things were happening, so
I didn't I didn't really realize what was going on
at the time, but my dad told me that, and
now that we sit back and we look at it,
it's like, look, I told you twenty twenty five, you
will be fighting for the world title against god Ship Pressed.
He said, he actually said he was gonna be in
the perto Rican Prede. Obviously Pertorican Praide didn't happen. But
same guy, same city, same place. So it's exciting.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been. I've been. We've been watching him
and getting prepared for him because.
Speaker 4: We knew at some point we're going to be fighting him,
either for the world title for just another fight.
Speaker 3: Maybe your dad can give me the lottery numbers given
hiss there.
Speaker 4: That's what That's what I told him, Like, how about
you give me the lottery numbers. Maybe you know we
could we could be rich before having to.
Speaker 1: Fight for the titles.
Speaker 3: Well, you might get a chance to be rich if
you keep on winning, like uh yes, sir, boxers do.
Before this fight between yourself and Garcia was made, Sebastian
Vandora was the WBO and the WBC champion. You were
his WBO mandatory challenger. You attended his fight earlier this
year in March, when he knocked out Cordel Booker. You
got in the ring with him, not in a confrontational manner.
Obviously you were allowed to be in there. You guys
took photos together. Both of you talked up the prospect
of fighting each other. You were the mandatory was due.
They ordered the fight top rank and his people at
PBC and TGBR promotions, everybody was talking about it, Sam
s Lukawisz, They were trying to make the match. I
thought it was going to happen, and then suddenly he
swerves and ends up taking the rematch against Tim Zoo
from their fight from when he won the title against
him and the vacant WBC title, And I'm just wondering, like,
what that happened?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: Were you disappointed that then happen. I think a lot
of people were sort of really interested at that, and
then the Garcia if I just sort of materialized kind
of out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: No, for sure, it was. It was disappointing.
Speaker 4: It was frustrating at the beginning because it's like you said,
you know, I went to his fight. I I earned
my spot as the as the number one contender to
to fight him. When there we talked to each other,
it was it was supposed it was supposed.
Speaker 1: To be, or it was supposed to happen.
Speaker 4: We we had conversations, We went back and forth for
a couple of weeks. Then a couple of days before
the negotiation period was over, they cold us and said, hey,
this is what we're gonna do. So obviously frustrated, I
feel like, you know, it's part of business, it's part.
Speaker 1: Of our boxing. Maybe he had a better, better opportunity
against Tim Zoo. I wanted to fight him.
Speaker 4: I wanted to to take both of his belts, but
I guess hit didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't want that. He didn't want to, He didn't
want to do that.
Speaker 4: He wanted to fight for for the w b C
and then and you know, take part on on another
rematch against Tim Zu, which was a great fight the
first one. So can't be mad at him. I feel
like it's it's business and and down the future, it's
something that we can make happen.
Speaker 3: So you don't look at this as oh, you know,
he's ducking me or this or that. You're realistic enough
to understand that the Zoo fight from the from the
financial perspective, probably even from the public interest perspective, it's
a little bit it's bigger than him and you, I guess.
Speaker 1: No, for sure.
Speaker 4: For sure, I feel like, you know, you have to
be mature enough to understand that the business side of boxing,
and and I feel like I did that.
Speaker 1: Obviously, wasn't happy about it.
Speaker 4: I wanted to fight against the champion, but I know
that when it happens and if he comes out, Victorias
against him, Zoo and I have to talk about Victoria's
against jure Garcia Prez is going to be even bigger fight.
Speaker 3: We mentioned earlier about how you're going to be fighting
once again at the Madison Square Guarden theater. This will
be your eighth fight at Madison Square Guarden, either in
the main arena or in the theater. It'll be your
fourth fight in a row in the theater. I mean,
you've really become sort of synonymous with that venue in
terms of their their boxing program. They've got a few
guys that fight there. But you know, Xander's Eyes is
a regular there. Tell me what it means to you
to be in a place like that. Obviously, there's a
lot of Puerto Rican fans will be there for you.
That's why Top Rank puts you there in the first place,
because of the type of draw you can bring in
what does that, What does that building mean to you?
And how comfortable are you fighting there?
Speaker 1: Man? I'm really really comfortable fighting there.
Speaker 4: I feel like now I don't even have to show
ID I just walk in and they already know me.
Speaker 1: So so it's amazing.
Speaker 4: It's amazing to be fighting again and in the Mecal Boxing,
a place that brings or has brought a lot of
legendary fights and a lot of gender legendary fighters to
to to become champions and fights there. So to be
able to fight for a world title at twenty two
years of age in the city that never sleeps, in
a venue with such historical moments in the sport, it
means it means the world to me.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for for this one.
Speaker 3: Well, don't forget the idea. We don't need any snaff
foo's on fight night, so make sure you got the
id hand of your credential and all that well, sir.
The other aspect of this fight, of course, we have
to discuss a little bit is as we've discussed, you
are a Puerto Rican fighter. Your opponent, Jorge Garcia, is
from Mexico. We all know that is one of the
great rivalries in boxing. History, and I wonder from your perspective,
how significant is it to you to not only partake
in a fight in that rivalry, but to do so,
you know, in a main event world championship fight, which
is you know, in a lot of people's minds, the
greatest rivalry in boxing.
Speaker 4: Yes, like you said, I feel like it is the
greatest rivalry in boxing. And to be able to take
part in one of those fights at championship fight against
a good Mexican warrior, somebody that is gonna is gonna
come put pressure and gonna come try to take everything
away from me means a lot. Means the world to
me because you know, going back to you know, in
the history of boxing and watching all those wars between
Puerto Rico and Mexico's always exciting for all the fans saying,
and just to be able to be a part of
that part of history means the world to me.
Speaker 3: So if you win, you won't be the youngest Jummy
middleweight champion in history, for Ando Vargas was twenty one
years old when he won the JUM middleweight title, but
you'll be one of the youngest if you are victorious.
But you'll also join a list of great Puerto Rican
champions that have come before you. You know, some of
the legends of all time. You got you know, fighters,
I've watched the millions of times, will fred O Gomez
and Benitez and Tito Trinidad, Miguel Coto, Ivan Calderon, I mean,
Luis ORTIZI go on for like a week talking about
the greats that come from your island. When you think
about that, those names and the fact that obviously you're
not at their level, at least not yet, but that
you can join them as being a world champion, That's
that's like a really big deal. I think for anybody
that's keeped in the Puerto Rican boxing culture.
Speaker 4: I get goose bumps. I get guzbump just from thinking
about it. Obviously something that I want to do. I
want to bring glorid to Puerto Rico. I want to
stat my name, you know, next to all those great
legends from Puerto Rico and b a world champion. I
just make my people proud, make my family, my team proud,
and overall make myself proud.
Speaker 3: Now, if you are victorious, and we've discussed a little
bit like Fondora you mentioned in tim Zoo and others.
But you have a real You're in a really good
weight class. Like I look at the champions besides yourself
and some of the other top contenders and guys with
interim belts. It's in my estimation, it's it's may not
have huge star power in terms of the names, but
there's a lot of guys that are really solid that
can beat probably anybody on any different in that division
I'm talking about. Besides Zoo and Fondora, you got martaz
A Leev tough as nails with the IBF title. There's
a Virgil Ortiz and Joannes Teas they have interim titles.
Jeron Buten has just announced that he's leaving welterweight to
move up. And wait, there's Keith thurmanis still kicking around.
He had a good performance in his recent fight Boa
Chuck Majimov. I mean Azuz Ramos ericson Lubin, You're you're
Florida compatriot. We could go on and not tell me
about your thoughts on the depth of your division, the
fact that you have a title. These are guys that
are gonna be hunting.
Speaker 2: You for sure.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's the hottest the hottest division in
boxing right now. He got great, great names in the division,
like you said, a lot of names that can't be
anybody on any given night. But once I become a
world champion, there's snow escaping. Now there's snow. Oh but
he hasn't done this. No, but he hasn't done that.
Now they got to fight. Everybody's going to get it.
Speaker 3: How is Louis arm Louise? How is Garcia going to
get it in this fight?
Speaker 1: Man Garcia is?
Speaker 4: I expect the best Garcia press to show up that night,
but he got to expect the xiangnersizers that has done
everybody anybody has seen I mean something special. I'm going
to put my name on the top of the list.
I'm going to show the world in the division why
I'm one of the best at one hundred and fifty
four pounds and they're going to see a next level
type of fighter come July twenty six.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing the culmination, having followed your
career from day one at age sixteen at a press conference,
and here we are five years later as you get
ready to fight for the world title. So Xander, I
wish you luck, genuinely. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Dan, thank you very much for your time.
Speaker 4: Thank you once again for for another interview another you know,
great great again article an interview, So hopefully I'll see
you in New York.
Speaker 3: Appreciate That'sander. Good luck to you man, right.
Speaker 1: Brother, Thank you again.
Speaker 2: Nice work from Dan. And this is another piece at
the one hundred and fifty four pound puzzle. Obviously, Terrence
Crawford has one of the belts as well at one
hundred and fifty four pounds and the way that Fundora
looked the other night, he was fantastic. What's gonna happen
in Fundorra and Ziaz We're negotiating to maybe have a
two belt titled defense by Fondorra, but they ended up
deciding Samson Lukawitz and Fundorra and PBC that hey, we're
gonna fight Tim Zoo instance, So we vacated this wo
belt that will be on the line coming on Saturday
night against Garcia, the Mexican veteran in the ESPN Top
Rank main event. By the way, Bruce Shoeshoe Carrington will
fight Matteas Haita in the featherweight matchup that is for
the vacant interim WBC Featherweight title on Saturday night. Also
Emiliano Vargas also in action, son of Fernando Vargas. So
we look forward to all of that in the preview
mode later in the week. The fights on Saturday night
at the Madison Square Garden Theater for the Top Rank
show that we'll be there on Saturday. All right, let's
continue in the recap mode. Get another perspective here, and
that is from Ricky Carroll again, the lead writer on
Big Fight Weekend dot Com the website. Want to talk
Alexander Usik and his victory over Daniel Dubois and what's
next for Usick. We elaborate on this what's legitimate. You
heard Dan say earlier in the pod, it should be
Joseph Parker, will that? Will that be next? Certainly, Usik
was seen on the social media videos late night Saturday
night with Derek Chesa in his locker room. I don't
have to see that fight, and as I said to Dan,
I don't have to see Tyson Fury for a third
time either, because Tyson Fury hasn't done anything in the
interim after Usik beat him twice to have a third
fight for early next year. But anyway, let's get to
the conversation with what Ricky's thoughts are on what he
saw with the Usik knockout of Dubois and the future
and much more, and do that here on the recap
pod right now. All right, Ricky, impressive. Another knockout for
Alexander Usik against Daniel Dubois. This one quicker, this one
in the fifth round, this one emphatically at the end.
That's me saying that what are your thoughts? As he
once again is undisputed he maybe shouldn't have had the
IBF belt taken away it figuratively was. Now it's back,
it's back in a big way. What are your thoughts?
Thank you for doing this and what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: No, no, I I appreciate you having me. Yeah, he
was dominant from the first bell. I just thought he
looked really, really sharp, normal husic, light on his feet
in and out.
Speaker 6: What surprise he was. He looked like he was annoyed.
Speaker 5: He seemed like he was annoyed at the beginning of
the fight, and he had a bit more spite in
his punches than I've maybe seen. I don't notice that's
him just getting used to heavyweight. Maybe, but he's been
heavyweight for quite a while now, right, But he's annoyed.
Speaker 2: Why annoyed because he had to fight this guy again
to get the IBF belt back and annoyed why in
your opinion?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Maybe?
Speaker 5: In my opinion, I thought he was disrespected in the
build up a little bit.
Speaker 6: There was a lot of people speaking.
Speaker 5: About how much Dubois had had improved, and rightly so,
he has definitely improved since the first fight. But yeah,
and there was still too much spoken about the low blow,
if I'm being honest, not the fact that the other
eight and a half rounds of their first fire were
really one sided.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, And it was even more.
Speaker 5: One side this time, bar the first part of the
third round, probably the first half of the third round tonight.
I thought Dubois seemed to be a little bit more positive,
but I just don't think he could figure out who
Six's movement, his feet, movement in and out he was
countering was just so sharp. Every time he fell short,
dubar or missed, he was getting punished very like. It
was well, it really good to watch.
Speaker 2: We see, we see why the man is undefeated and
formally undisputed at cruiserweight and now undisputed here. It hasn't
happened accidentally. It's happened for the reasons that you're saying.
He's difficult to hit. We's got the high guard. He's
difficult to hit. He uses head movement, he uses leg
he uses in and out with the legs. He's bouncing
up and down, and it almost it almost looked like
to me that he was measuring Dubois for the counter
and that at some point he knew the counter punch
from Usik is gonna come. He's gonna get the opportunity,
and that's what we saw in the fifth round. He
caught him with a counter in the third round, near
the end of the third round, hard left, and uh,
yeah he did. He did wabble a little bit and
then he caught him and hurt him, and then didn't
take long to finish with the thundering left where dubois
gum shield as you guys call it, her mouth piece
came flying out and he's down on all fours and
got the vacant look, and uh that was emphatic. That
was emphatic tonight. What about what about him being the
ultimate road Warrior. Dan Rayfield was talking about this when
you look at his career going back to cruiserweight and
fighting Gasiev in Russia and fighting Huck in Germany and
coming to England and fighting Anthony Joshua Tottenham Hotspur Stadium,
and you know, seemingly, you know, go back and and
come back and fight Duboin. In this situation at Wimbley
the man, the man is not phased by any of this.
Pick it up on that, Alexander Rusik.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan brings up a good point. He's he can
go anywhere, any country.
Speaker 6: He's that good. He is that good.
Speaker 5: He he'll win anywhere, He'll fight anywhere. He's shown his bravery,
his class. Yeah, if there was any doubters, and I
can't believe there was, but if there was any doubters,
there won't be any doubters after tonight. I don't think
that he's He's definitely number one. He's definitely number one.
I would love to see him have that have if
there is one more fight. Staying on the road Warrior conversation,
I'd like to see him have a fight in Ukraine
if it's possible. I don't know how that is. I
know they've had football back, haven't they, I think? Or
again here or there they've had.
Speaker 2: Back, right, But yeah, but at this point it's just
it's too dangerous, I think for safety, and so that'll
be there. So I was logically going there, do you believe,
first of all, at thirty eight, with all that he's proven,
that he will fight on for the record he said
in the ring thirty eight, I'm just getting started is
essentially what he said. Do you believe he will fight
on Ricky?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 5: All I'd want him to do is Joseph Parker. I
think he deserves his opportunity. Is not that I think
he'd win, because I don't think he would, but I
think he's done enough over the last couple of years
to warrant an opportunity. But apart from that, I would
rather him retire. If I'm being honest, I don't want
to see him like Fury again. I don't want to
see a trilogy against Fury. I don't want to see
a trilogy with AJ and I certainly don't want to
see a trilogy with du Borrow as well.
Speaker 2: Right well, at this point, let's pick it up on that.
What's I mean financially sure, but What does Tyson Fury
offer right now when he hasn't beaten anybody else since
the two losses? What does Anthony Joshua offer at this
point he lost twice to Usik, he got knocked out
by Duoir. I don't know what either one of them
really offer for a third fight to that point, right,
I completely agree with you.
Speaker 5: Neither of them certainly deserve to jump in front of
Parker or Cabayelle, who I think are probably the two
at the front of the queue. Parker ahead of Cabayelle.
It's just because he's more active, but both of those
are two very good heavyweights. But just because they're big names,
I don't see why they should come back and jump
to the head of the queue. And it seems like,
I don't know if you saw the Jake Paul Winterview,
the own broadcast, and he seems pretty certain that the
Anthony Joshua fights happened.
Speaker 2: In Yeah, he came right out, and he came right
out and said it is going to happen, and he
said he's gonna knock him out. But Jake says a
lot of things, and Jake I was I was in
uh Anaheim, and he said in the ring. He had
a list about fifteen people long, including Santa Claus and
the Easter Boddy about who he's about who he was
going to fight. So who knows on that, on on
what fight they make. I just I wonder, let's talk,
let's move it into legacy here with Ricky does it?
He doesn't need a Joseph Parker fight for legacy. He
doesn't need an a Jeet Kaba Yell fight for legacy.
I just wonder what motivates you to fight on into
the latter part of this year or next year for
legacy reasons? Right?
Speaker 1: For legacy?
Speaker 5: For legacy reasons, There's not really there's not really anything left,
is there.
Speaker 6: Really?
Speaker 5: I'm talking about Joseph Parker just because I think if
you're looking at one more fight.
Speaker 6: For him, he's the most deserving, right.
Speaker 5: But but apart from that, if I'm looking at it
from six point of view, there's I've seen loads of
tweets from people in the boxing industry who are saying
he should just walk away after tonight, and I think
he should. Really, he's done everything. He's proven himself in
two different weight classes if you count the undisputed at
Cruise Away that's three times undisputed now twice that.
Speaker 2: Everyone Olympic gold medal as well, the massive amateur career,
three hundred plus wins as an amateur. You're gonna take
all of it into account.
Speaker 5: And people were talking about him, people, well, a lot
of people were talking about him aging, saying he'll be
slower tonight. He's thirty eight, dud bark and punch this,
that and the other. That's probably the best I've seen
him look for.
Speaker 2: A wise and me and you know what, maybe he
is slowing a little and maybe it will be a
bigger factor if he's fighting a younger, better fighter. But
like you just said, it was not the case tonight.
It wasn't It wasn't the case tonight that he was
too slow to find the range. He found the range.
Speaker 5: He looked confident all week, even having Duboir's team. They
were trying to bait him all week at the press conferences,
shouting things in his face, and he just looked so focused,
never looked rattled once, not even for a seconds. He's
just a consummer professional, And to be honest, it's just
been a privilege to watch him. I mean, if that
is the last time we see him.
Speaker 2: It's been a privileged to I mean in the last
four years now, two wins over Joshua were two wins
over Fury, two wins over Dubois on top of the
cruiserweight resumes. So yeah, that's a that's a that's a run.
Speaker 5: Yes, such a good point you bring up there, and
people were talking about the.
Speaker 6: Dubois run of form and fair play.
Speaker 5: He had three great wins up until tonight, three really
good wins where he wasn't the favorite in any of
those fights. H he could argue the mill of fire maybe,
but no one talks about the use hick rum. No
one's really spoke about it all week. They are a
run of form that he's had and the people that
he's beaten the lead up to this fight, and he's
got I think he's got better since the first du
Bar fight as well, and he's improved.
Speaker 2: Now, what's his place in a history right now? In
your mind? I know Dan and I have gone back
and forth. Dan's the ultimate historian, and he says he
does not at the moment belong in the top ten.
He hasn't fought enough as a heavyweight. This is now,
I believe in eighth heavyweight fight. This is a sixth
heavyweight title fight. He's won them all. Obviously. Does he
belong in the Ricky Carroll top ten at all time
or does he not belong in an all time top
ten right now?
Speaker 5: Usik, Yeah, No, in my top ten, He's definitely in
my top ten.
Speaker 6: He's in my top five.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 6: The problem I've.
Speaker 5: Got is I'm of a certain age where I only
go back so far, and if I go back further
to the days of ar Lee, Joe Lewis and.
Speaker 2: Matt Borman, Borman Marciano, those kind of guys.
Speaker 5: Right right, Well, I've seen a little bit more because
I was young, but i'd seen him. I saw the
Michael morrifire and I can remember that. But the early
days I'm just watching old videos. Of course, if the
coult for me to really really formulate, probably a fair
rounded top ten.
Speaker 6: But if I'm looking at my era from.
Speaker 5: What I know, like Lennox, Lewis, Mike Tyson, and Vander Holyfield.
Speaker 6: He definitely belongs right in the middle of all those.
Speaker 2: Now, Holyfield is an excellent comparison because holy Field was
a tremendous light heavy or light heavyweight and cruiserweight before
he was the heavyweight champion on two occasions, Usick Usick Holyfield,
Who you got who got? Among the time. I mean,
that's an interesting debate, isn't it comparable.
Speaker 6: It's a very good point. And I think Darren Barker,
who was on the Design broadcast this evening, he summed.
Speaker 5: It up perfectly, and they had Lennox Lewis from the
studio as well, and he said, I'm I would fancy
Usik against any heavyweight in history. He's saying I'm not
saying he would beat every heavyweight, but he was saying
I would give him a really good opportunity against any heavyweight.
So I would say, to answer your question, I would
probably pick Usik. And I love Holyfield as well. He
was a big He was a big favorite of my
dear old dad's and my older brothers as well, so
he was a big part of us growing up.
Speaker 6: Holyfield, but I love.
Speaker 2: Usick, and Lewis was big, and Lewis had had firepower
in either hand, that would be a challenge. But I mean,
let's give USA credit. Tyson Fury's bigger than Lennux Lewis.
Tyson Fury's every bit of six' eight every bit of
two and sixty. Pounds, yes he was The routes kicked him. Up,
yes And usik handled the much bigger man in both
of those. FIGHTS i Don't i'm not saying it the.
Cinch it's a guarantee that he Handles Lennux, lewis but
it would be a competitive fight based on what we've. Seen,
Yeah AND.
Speaker 5: I cannot tell you how MUCH i Love Lennux. LEWIS
i think he's still in my. Bio won The big, Fight.
Speaker 6: He's still. THERE i watch his videos every. Day i'm
the Biggest clues.
Speaker 2: Fan and thanks one more time To Ricky carroll a
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In detroit in A dezone a heavyweight main event for
the ladies later on this. Week we'll be in the
preview mode later on this week for all of that
as we wrap up the month Of. July for, now
we are good off the, weekend recapping The pacqui Al burrios,
draw The fundurro win out In, vegas The alexander Usak
ko win Of, dubois and Even jesse Bam rodriguez victorious
Over cafu Of South africa by the tenth. Round tko
band was impressive and got the. Stoppage and now he's
got that match With Puma martinez In, november third belt
unification fight for Bam, rodriguez who's got quite the resume
that he is amassed a fantastic smaller weight. Fighter there
is no, doubt so we gave you all that of
the recap. Mode we are good now coming off the
weekend everybody have a good. Week we've got much more
on the way in advance Of ziaz And garcia with
THE Espn top rankmin event that's coming later in the.
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