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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show and twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: I hope you're all doing well and in good spirits.
Speaker 2: I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast
Speaker 2: to start off the new year. We are blessed with
Speaker 2: the company of Tim in Wisconsin and his life took
Speaker 2: us through Real turn at three forty three am, Mark
Speaker 2: in the beginning of a series of strange events that
Speaker 2: challenged his understanding of reality. Despite his attempts to lead
Speaker 2: a normal existence, he was constantly drawn into a world
Speaker 2: filled with UFOs, nightmares, lucid dreams, possible aid in interactions,
Speaker 2: and inexplicable synchronicities. Join us as he delves into these
Speaker 2: bizarre experiences, recount in traumatic moments as guideposts for self discovery.
Speaker 2: His account serves as a personal testament to the idea
Speaker 2: that sometimes truth can be stranger than fiction. Tim is
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Speaker 2: much of appreciate it. Now on the show. Hello, Tim,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Hi there, Thank you so much for having me. It's
Speaker 1: really an honor to be here.
Speaker 2: We are glad you've joined us today. And you're calling
Speaker 2: from Wisconsin in the US.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1: Well ten pm our time, and it's fridged out there,
Speaker 1: so it's nice to be closing up doing this call
Speaker 1: with you in our room.
Speaker 2: That's the main thing. Keep nice and cozy. Okay, Now, Tim,
Speaker 2: you've got some experiences to share with us. Would you
Speaker 2: like to start at the beginning please.
Speaker 1: Sir, Yes, absolutely, and again just thank you so much
Speaker 1: for the opportunity to share. And I'll start a little
Speaker 1: bit about myself, if that's all right. So my name
Speaker 1: is Tim Kaye from the Midwest. Just turned forty this
Speaker 1: year and I was born in Madison, Wisconsin, raised in Barboo, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I live and work in the Forest, Wisconsin with my
Speaker 1: family and three kids, my wife and two cats. Actually,
Speaker 1: on my fortieth birthday, I celebrated by publishing a book
Speaker 1: about my life and experiences. So that was really interesting
Speaker 1: in a fun process. So my hobbies include modeling, many
Speaker 1: painting modeling as in building models, rut down the runway,
Speaker 1: you know, learning things outdoor life, hiking, camping, do a
Speaker 1: lot of reading, video games, creative arts. I was a
Speaker 1: B to B marketing professional for fifteen years, working in
Speaker 1: different industries, and I've done most aspects of a full department,
Speaker 1: including writing, editing, designing, lightweb developments, and more. Pretty regular person,
Speaker 1: maybe even what you might call a dull dad other
Speaker 1: than these things that have happened to me over the
Speaker 1: time of my life. Some you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people I've talked to keep bringing up the concept of
Speaker 1: a star seed and star trial or whatever and apply
Speaker 1: that to my experiences. They and my experiences I've come
Speaker 1: to believe and likely span my whole life. And they
Speaker 1: began to peak in my mid twenties and then again
Speaker 1: with what I would call information downloads, lucid dreams, and
Speaker 1: even a random event of what probably was automatic writing
Speaker 1: or drawing, and that was in my mid thirties. I've
Speaker 1: always had an interest in the weird and unexplained or
Speaker 1: it's too plausible, and quite a bit of you know,
Speaker 1: strange things and synchronicities throughout my life that I always
Speaker 1: try to just play off as coincidence, but lately it's
Speaker 1: just been more of a well, you know, there might
Speaker 1: be more to that than what I thought. Going on
Speaker 1: to my mom and dad. Mom was born and raised
Speaker 1: in South Dakota on the farm. You know, she did
Speaker 1: say she had some experiences there, didn't go into much detail,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of leave it there with that one.
Speaker 1: My dad was born at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska, actually,
Speaker 1: and they met and married. They lived in Rithsburg for
Speaker 1: quite a while. My brother and I were born in
Speaker 1: the late eighties, mid to late eighties, and for a
Speaker 1: time we lived in Loganville, Wisconsin, and again my mom
Speaker 1: sued that she had some boddy events there, and then
Speaker 1: we moved to Watoma and didn't really remember much from there.
Speaker 1: But kind of my earliest memories are from where we
Speaker 1: live most of my young life, which was in Fairboo, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to try to get right to it.
Speaker 1: And one of my earliest experiences, which at the time
Speaker 1: I didn't realize was really related to anything, but I
Speaker 1: always wondered I was a recurring nightmare and in the
Speaker 1: nightmare there what I see in the scene or my
Speaker 1: knee is kind of up in the air, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking into this dark space, which is a room of
Speaker 1: some sort of circular shape, and at the foot of
Speaker 1: where I'm laying, and I see these two figures, one
Speaker 1: a female, one a male, and they both have this
Speaker 1: strikingly plain and pale skin that they look like they're
Speaker 1: dressed in evening attire, one in a like black sequence
Speaker 1: dress and that was the female had long black hair
Speaker 1: curled out the bands, but again very light and features.
Speaker 3: In the face couldn't make out eyes.
Speaker 1: The male was taller with dark, short cropped hair what
Speaker 1: looked like kind of a cheesy mustache. I just remember
Speaker 1: feeling very scared in that dream, more than just scared,
Speaker 1: And as it as the dream kind of progresses, I
Speaker 1: will I come to the awareness of a fear to
Speaker 1: my right leaning over me and kind of having this
Speaker 1: just be looking colds and the ball kind of had
Speaker 1: and a primacy grin and kind of hands coming towards me.
Speaker 1: The scene changes again and I see this device overhead
Speaker 1: that looks like a long needle with a wider base
Speaker 1: and kind of this intricate workings of what looks like
Speaker 1: golden at the base and again. You know, the fear
Speaker 1: is pretty strong there as a kid, not knowing what's
Speaker 1: going on, and the dream always ended with feeling some
Speaker 1: kind of weird pressure and either my abdomen or you know,
Speaker 1: my rear end basically, and then it would stop. So
Speaker 1: that one always stuck with me, and I had it
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. This would have been
Speaker 1: probably elementary school. Do also remember during that time, This
Speaker 1: is a conscious memory of a few times laying in bed,
Speaker 1: I would be overcome with fear and I would take
Speaker 1: my blankets and put them over my head. And what
Speaker 1: I remember is seeing light, which I thought at the
Speaker 1: time was probably moonlight or you know, dust light coming
Speaker 1: in through my blanket. I would immediately start feeling white
Speaker 1: pressure around my sides on a blanket coming down, kind
Speaker 1: of poking feelings, and it just I was terrified. I
Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. I couldn't hear anything. My
Speaker 1: brother was asleep in the bunk bed below me. I
Speaker 1: had the top bun And what was interesting is there
Speaker 1: was this little hap above gray window that was shining
Speaker 1: into our rooms, and I was that had something to
Speaker 1: do with it.
Speaker 3: In that light.
Speaker 1: I remember being an on color sometimes I remember and
Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird green or kind of a
Speaker 1: lighter blue or greenish blue. And every time that that
Speaker 1: would happen, once you know, they started whatever it was
Speaker 1: started getting to broaden, it felt like they were pushing
Speaker 1: the blank down around me.
Speaker 3: When I looked back at that.
Speaker 1: You know, in those elementary years, I try to remember
Speaker 1: other things that may have gone on that those are
Speaker 1: the main ones. I do remember experiencing deja vu very often,
Speaker 1: and it was very startling, and it was just I
Speaker 1: felt like I was suffering through deja vu because it
Speaker 1: felt like I was doing something I'd already done. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, kind of fruitless things going on,
Speaker 1: like them doing it again.
Speaker 3: Why am I do this? I already have done it,
Speaker 3: that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: There's some other synchronicities, and you know, elementary school and
Speaker 1: growing up, but there wasn't much after those really early
Speaker 1: years that I recalled I did, so, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of forwarding fast, forwarding on to college, very busy and
Speaker 1: you know, doing my own thing, becoming an independent person,
Speaker 1: going to class, that sort of thing, finding new friends.
Speaker 1: As an art graphic design major, I was very shocked
Speaker 1: to find how much time I had to spend in
Speaker 1: the studio rather than going out and going to parties
Speaker 1: and drinking like a lot of classmates, which was interesting.
Speaker 1: But anyways, I remember one particular nightmare I had during
Speaker 1: college was very lucid, very vivid. There was an image
Speaker 1: of this creature, a nit maarriish thing looking at me,
Speaker 1: laying on its side and screaming like like a I
Speaker 1: don't know, it was like gurgling and screaming at the
Speaker 1: same time. Had these catlike eyes with a slit. It
Speaker 1: was all gray and has this really pronounced ridge bony
Speaker 1: structure on its chest, and from what I could see,
Speaker 1: it almost looked like it was being crushed or it
Speaker 1: was in pain or something like that. So towards at
Speaker 1: the at the end of the dream, I remember changing
Speaker 1: from sheer terror and dread to like almost pity, And
Speaker 1: of course the dream just stops abruptly and I wake
Speaker 1: up and I'm left with, you know, wonders of what
Speaker 1: the heck was that and what is going on there?
Speaker 1: So probably worth mentioning. I took a trip out to
Speaker 1: Utah with my mom. She drove and we went through
Speaker 1: the mountains in Colorado, through the snowstorm and into Utah.
Speaker 1: I did remember that we saw what I thought was
Speaker 1: an odd craft that was silently flying kind of over
Speaker 1: the valley that we were in on the other side
Speaker 1: of the mountains, and it was shiny and silvery. Don't
Speaker 1: remember hearing any sound or seeing any other aircraft or
Speaker 1: even jet trails behind it. Now I tend to just
Speaker 1: kind of chalk it up as maybe it was just
Speaker 1: a plane or you know, a jet, but it was
Speaker 1: still very odd, and I'll kind of always refer to
Speaker 1: that as the possible.
Speaker 3: Fighting I had.
Speaker 1: And you know, to the listeners here and you you're
Speaker 1: probably gonna, you know, get familiar with a lot of
Speaker 1: what I've had as experiences aren't typical traditional U of
Speaker 1: both signings, but there's some in there. So that's forward
Speaker 1: a little bit more met my life in college and
Speaker 1: later around we moved in together in post college. We
Speaker 1: got our own apartment that was just outside of Madison, Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: in a little town called sun Prairie, and it was
Speaker 1: going pretty well and you know, doing the work thing
Speaker 1: and all that. What was interesting is that at that
Speaker 1: time I started to notice this peculiar sense of anxiety
Speaker 1: that would just spend most evenings or around us usually
Speaker 1: after dinner. This was in my mid to early twenties again,
Speaker 1: and my wife would fall asleep pretty early after dinner,
Speaker 1: you know, just before we actually went to bed. I
Speaker 1: remember I was feeling really alone at that point and
Speaker 1: I just always had a vague, unsettled feelings for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: We also were into, you know, looking at the stars.
Speaker 1: This before we had kids and we can go do
Speaker 1: this stuff. Late night, we took a drive I remember,
Speaker 1: probably within the winter, outside of Town North on the
Speaker 1: highway and or something like that, and we looked over Madison.
Speaker 1: Now granted, Madison has the air now Guard true Acts
Speaker 1: airfield there and international Airport and some private airstrips, so
Speaker 1: very busy airport. But I do remember seeing what I
Speaker 1: thought was a peculiar aircraft. If it was an airplane,
Speaker 1: I thought it was some something strange where it was
Speaker 1: hovering this light. It was night again and probably the
Speaker 1: size of a small button over Madison, and the light
Speaker 1: stayed very bright and then suddenly disappeared, and you know,
Speaker 1: at the time I was really unsure what that could
Speaker 1: have been, and reported it to move on forward again,
Speaker 1: and we're going to get to kind of where things
Speaker 1: I would say heat up for my own experiences, and
Speaker 1: up until this point, you know, even those early nightmares
Speaker 1: and experiences I had kind of pushed aside, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would say forgot about, but just
Speaker 1: was trying to live life. After the birth of my
Speaker 1: first son was about three months in, I started waking
Speaker 1: up late at early mornings, almost every.
Speaker 3: Day at the same time, and that time.
Speaker 1: Was three point forty three am, and I would wake
Speaker 1: up feeling like I was in shop or in terror,
Speaker 1: or suddenly like, you know, something had just happened. But
Speaker 1: the interesting thing was I never had any dreams to
Speaker 1: speak of or remembered, and never had any knowledge of
Speaker 1: anything happening. I'd wake up suddenly, sit up, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm breathing kind of fast in that state of anxiety
Speaker 1: and high stress. I'd look over my wife's to sleeve
Speaker 1: like nothing happened. And I'd say that probably went on
Speaker 1: for months, months and months I've been It culminated in
Speaker 1: a major event of becoming aware of things. I would
Speaker 1: say that I was the catalyst for changing my life
Speaker 1: trajectory of either.
Speaker 3: Kind of ignoring me.
Speaker 1: It's things for the rest of my life, are really
Speaker 1: looking into them.
Speaker 3: One night.
Speaker 1: I am waking up, but I realized I'm not able
Speaker 1: to open my eyes and I can't move. And to
Speaker 1: add to it, I am hearing this deafening hum, this
Speaker 1: rhythmic low hum that's like vibrating my whole.
Speaker 3: Body and my bones.
Speaker 1: And the best way I could describe it is the
Speaker 1: sound that the alien probe made in the Star Trek
Speaker 1: film with the whales. You know, that's a pretty specific reference,
Speaker 1: but it sounded so much like that it really stuck
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 3: Before long, you know.
Speaker 1: That stopped. I could open my eyes and like all
Speaker 1: at once, I sat up, just completely not knowing what
Speaker 1: is going on. Look to my right, my wife is
Speaker 1: akin a sleep, dead to the world. I tried to
Speaker 1: whisper her, you know, to her, pushed her. She never
Speaker 1: woke up. I look around and the room is just
Speaker 1: kind of covered in this weird light. It's kind of blue,
Speaker 1: maybe moonlight. I'm not really sure.
Speaker 3: At the time a room.
Speaker 1: Was painted light blue, baby blue, so I don't know
Speaker 1: if that, you know, could have been part of it.
Speaker 1: But the next part of this experience was probably really
Speaker 1: even tipped the skill more to being so.
Speaker 3: I guess terrifying.
Speaker 1: At the time, I suddenly became aware of this presence
Speaker 1: right next to me on my left side of our bed,
Speaker 1: and as an instinctive reflex, I swipe out with my
Speaker 1: left hand and look over at the same time, and
Speaker 1: I felt this deep, deep hold my hand entered, and
Speaker 1: I noticed right as that happened, this shadow kind of
Speaker 1: melts and flits out of our window right at the
Speaker 1: foot of our bed, and that would have been facing
Speaker 1: kind of the north west ish side. That was like,
Speaker 1: if you kept going in the straight line, you hit
Speaker 1: the Madison Airport. So after that happened, I sat there
Speaker 1: for a while, just kind of trying to gather my
Speaker 1: wits that was an insane thing that had just happened,
Speaker 1: and went to the bathroom and came back to bed,
Speaker 1: And those events started to taper off after that, the
Speaker 1: waking at three forty three. But I remember having a
Speaker 1: conversation a few times with my brother shortly afterwards and
Speaker 1: started to think that and you know, this is where
Speaker 1: the conspiracy side of this phenomenon kind of comes into plane,
Speaker 1: Like you wonder if you were really losing it or not.
Speaker 3: I could have.
Speaker 1: Sworn I had a AT and T cellphone. This was
Speaker 1: probably let's see about thirteen twelve years ago, so pretty
Speaker 1: basic functioning at the time. I remember when we were
Speaker 1: talking it would sound like a landline was picking up
Speaker 1: and clicking off on my phone. So I always wondered
Speaker 1: if you know, something was going on as far as
Speaker 1: like being listened to, And I know how crazy that
Speaker 1: can sound, but to the people who was experienced things
Speaker 1: like this, nothing is really out as the realm of possibility,
Speaker 1: you know, just a really life altering series of events there.
Speaker 1: And that was something that I really tried to forget about, honestly,
Speaker 1: in the series of life events, I was really unfulfilled
Speaker 1: with my work and my job kind of left there
Speaker 1: unsure of what to do.
Speaker 3: Took some other jobs, stayed at.
Speaker 1: Home for a little bit, and eventually got a great
Speaker 1: role in another town in another state in Rochester, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So we're right the next stage of life. Soon after that,
Speaker 1: we had another child, and there was some other odd
Speaker 1: events that occurred. I had some again I've been played
Speaker 1: by nightmares and Lucid James forever. One of the houses
Speaker 1: we had there was a toy that we got that
Speaker 1: was badly powered and it was dead, or at least
Speaker 1: the batteries weren't working right, and a couple of nights
Speaker 1: we had it go off randomly in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. And at that house, I always felt like
Speaker 1: somebody was watching me or were kind of messing with us.
Speaker 3: I know that's a.
Speaker 1: Little more on the paranormal ghost side of things, but
Speaker 1: there was something with that house. And then I had
Speaker 1: a nightmare of someone taking over my body, and another
Speaker 1: one of a nightmare of my wife and I at
Speaker 1: my dad's house, which was my grandma's health and I
Speaker 1: ended up talking to someone that was possibly dead in
Speaker 1: that house or had died, and which if we fast
Speaker 1: forward a little bit, the same room that my dad
Speaker 1: later passed away in, which was very unnerving to me
Speaker 1: the time. But again, like through all this, I've got
Speaker 1: a new job, our family's growing, and we're in a
Speaker 1: new home, news state, and we're trying to live our
Speaker 1: lives and a lot of all this other stuff. Kind
Speaker 1: of I forget about push away brush aside. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, nah, I don't really interesting things often, that's
Speaker 1: nothing's going on there. Well, we're at a grocery store
Speaker 1: towards our the end of our time living in Rochester.
Speaker 1: The star is called highbe and for whatever reason, I
Speaker 1: came across an advertisement for something with what you would
Speaker 1: call your typical grain a face of a grand there
Speaker 1: I stopped into my tracks. I was frozen. It triggered
Speaker 1: something in me, and that always.
Speaker 3: Stuck with me. You know.
Speaker 1: It took me a minute to feel myself away, but
Speaker 1: that seeing that visual just struck something in me like
Speaker 1: I had seen it before, or it just it wasn't good.
Speaker 1: And again that happened. I didn't say much to anybody.
Speaker 1: I kind of went on my way, but I'd always
Speaker 1: unraveled something, and I think that slowly kind of kept coming.
Speaker 3: To the surface over time.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to fast forward again some more. Eventually
Speaker 1: I got an even better opportunity back home in Madison.
Speaker 1: My wife told me that we were expecting our third child.
Speaker 1: And after everybody got back home, I moved first and worked,
Speaker 1: and then I would go back and visit until we
Speaker 1: were all moved there. I got this weird interest in
Speaker 1: the topic that seemed to come from nowhere. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to live a normal life again and new
Speaker 1: big change. But I was always with one foot in
Speaker 1: each world, you know, this side of things in the
Speaker 1: the UFO and possible induction stuff. On the other I
Speaker 1: just felt compelled to start reading more on the topic.
Speaker 1: I read books and bogs other things, websites, you know,
Speaker 1: watch some documentaries, but in particular, I think the first
Speaker 1: book I read was John Max John eMac's book Encounters
Speaker 1: or something like that. And again, we are in our house,
Speaker 1: we're currently in now, and I came to a page
Speaker 1: with an experience who's drawing of a gray with black eyes,
Speaker 1: and it just completely got me triggered something deep up
Speaker 1: here and you know, revulsion, like just I couldn't look
Speaker 1: at it. Instinctively shut the book and put it down.
Speaker 1: I was shaking after seeing that. That obviously didn't sit
Speaker 1: well with me. And we were putting our kids to
Speaker 1: bed during that time, and I tried to not say
Speaker 1: anything to anybody, but I always knew that that meant
Speaker 1: something that I couldn't ignore it anymore. I needed to
Speaker 1: find out what was going on. Yeah, Shortly after that,
Speaker 1: I reached out to move on ERT team, the group
Speaker 1: that actually worked with people who might be contact these
Speaker 1: or experiencers that way, not just those that have seen
Speaker 1: you a boat. They had a questionnaire online and I
Speaker 1: took it filled it out, and many I remember were
Speaker 1: in the positive response from you know, like missing time,
Speaker 1: different things like that, and eventually I got an email
Speaker 1: from one of their consultives in their team. We schedled
Speaker 1: a call, and I remember we talked for a bit
Speaker 1: about my experiences and my families, and you know, their
Speaker 1: determination was that I was likely a lifelong experiencer. And
Speaker 1: in between our discussions, I had a very long string
Speaker 1: of lists and dreams where it seemed like it wasn't
Speaker 1: just dreams, it was you know, memories coming back to
Speaker 1: the surface or things like that, and I shared that
Speaker 1: with them. I remember one of them being the event,
Speaker 1: or I should say, a scene of me witnessing myself younger,
Speaker 1: witnessing some sort of I guess the description nowadays would
Speaker 1: be a Manti type entity that was in the sign
Speaker 1: of some sort of biological suit. And I swear like,
Speaker 1: if I didn't know better, I would have just been
Speaker 1: thinking I had a dream about the Independence Day Aliens,
Speaker 1: but it was different, different enough where it wasn't the same,
Speaker 1: and it was just so vivid that I thought I
Speaker 1: felt everything. I felt the emotions of scene as as
Speaker 1: a kid, the visual and all that stuff, and I
Speaker 1: drew it. I've thrown most of these fams and you
Speaker 1: can find them on my media online and stuff in
Speaker 1: the book that it was just incredibly moving to see
Speaker 1: that and experience that in a dream. But shortly after that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm working, living like being a dad, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, man, you know, if other people are
Speaker 1: going through this, going through these stages of doubt, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to see if I can help. So I
Speaker 1: reached out and I applied and I joined MUFON as
Speaker 1: a field investigator, which is actually really interesting work. I
Speaker 1: did many cases. Eventually, because our state only had like
Speaker 1: two of us, I became their assistant state director. Ont
Speaker 1: of the cases came to me was not enough information
Speaker 1: to do much. And there are some even that I
Speaker 1: thought were not real people, you know, these some like
Speaker 1: Scoopers are you know, a little bit of my wild
Speaker 1: imagination thought they might have been planted people trying to
Speaker 1: discredit the organization. So I don't know, they just didn't
Speaker 1: sound like real people. Only a couple really got me,
Speaker 1: a couple of sidings of UFOs that seemed very genuine
Speaker 1: and very unique in that typical and I will say this,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as location. I did notice a
Speaker 1: lot tended to be near the Great Lakeside in Wisconsin Lake, Michigan,
Speaker 1: so take that as they will. And there were a
Speaker 1: couple other ones that were a little more interesting to
Speaker 1: me than involved entities or creatures. One end, I think
Speaker 1: it was eau Claire or someone seeing that they were
Speaker 1: seen or had seen reptilian type people or creatures. Then
Speaker 1: another one was way of North, I think in Superior,
Speaker 1: and I think it even had a correlating news story
Speaker 1: that these two kids were camping out in the yard
Speaker 1: they heard this preacher are outside with tent and they,
Speaker 1: I guess if I remember correctly, they got out of
Speaker 1: their tents to see what was going on, and they
Speaker 1: saw this huge, very humanoid, very musthily big thing.
Speaker 3: Of course, they're struck with beer.
Speaker 1: They're just kids that kind of freeze there and they
Speaker 1: watch it go run chear through the forests next to
Speaker 1: them and just kind of like take out a bunch
Speaker 1: of trees. And I tried to correspond with them more,
Speaker 1: but they kind of petered off, and what we usually
Speaker 1: would happen in these cases, so you're left with wiring
Speaker 1: if it was true or not, but it was it
Speaker 1: always stuck with me.
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Speaker 1: I eventually left move on for some personal health reism,
Speaker 1: you know, with mental health and anxiety, so a lot
Speaker 1: of that took priority, But I never lost interest in
Speaker 1: these things, and I still wanted to learn more about
Speaker 1: my own truth. When I got engaged with the er
Speaker 1: team member and he pointed me to a community of
Speaker 1: experiences and that was called opus Ope. That was probably
Speaker 1: the biggest curve of learning and enlightenment of some of
Speaker 1: these things that people go through and how these these
Speaker 1: memories can be altered or screened or whatever, and the truth.
Speaker 3: Can be kind of hidden from us.
Speaker 1: I also found quantum healing hypno therapist specialists near me,
Speaker 1: but it's the one that Dolores Cannon does, and we
Speaker 1: met and we did a few sessions. It was interesting
Speaker 1: because my first session didn't go as we thought it
Speaker 1: would based on want to share with us. We thought,
Speaker 1: you know, we'd get right to abduction or et things,
Speaker 1: but actually it went straight to what looked like a
Speaker 1: past life sometime in the eighteen hundreds. As with what
Speaker 1: we determined was my soulmates, I was living with some
Speaker 1: form of indigenous Native American in we think California somewhere,
Speaker 1: and it looked like I had several lives beyond that,
Speaker 1: other ones and other sessions. Here's where it kind of
Speaker 1: gets interesting. The first thing that I remember being revealed
Speaker 1: was apart from those conscious memories where I'm blacked out
Speaker 1: with it's or I'm feeling the poking around my blanket,
Speaker 1: here it's tapping at my window. And what I see
Speaker 1: in this session in my revealed memory is what I
Speaker 1: would describe as a more whitish, tall gray with a
Speaker 1: big head, but it's more rectangularly oval, if that makes sense,
Speaker 1: very wrinkly, three long fingers tapping on my window in
Speaker 1: those seep gay black, horrible looking eyes. Horrible. Just because
Speaker 1: you know a lot of my previous recollections and memories
Speaker 1: being retrieved, I remember that feeling. I don't think I
Speaker 1: have that sort of reaction as much anymore. I remember
Speaker 1: my vision goes blank after seeing the creature doing this,
Speaker 1: and I remember seeing this image of a set of
Speaker 1: interwoven rings starting to spin, and I hear.
Speaker 3: A voice saying do you like that? Or how do
Speaker 3: you like that?
Speaker 1: And as a kid, I'm responding with an excited and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it. And then again I go blink in
Speaker 1: the memory, and then it comes back where I'm looking.
Speaker 3: At my feet now.
Speaker 1: My feet are wrapped in my old dinosaur blank that
Speaker 1: I had, and I'm seeing what spears to be there
Speaker 1: craft right opening. And what's interesting is these entities now
Speaker 1: are appearing as light schemes or energy or I'm seeing
Speaker 1: there or or something like that. One is really tall,
Speaker 1: seems to be the one in control. It's got device
Speaker 1: in one hand, little like metallic remote sort of things,
Speaker 1: and what I remember is looking over to my left,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing one shorter being that's like off purple in film, right,
Speaker 1: And of course I don't know what any of this means.
Speaker 3: It's just what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then those three figures are, you know, ushering me
Speaker 1: kind of two or three feet off the ground. I
Speaker 1: can't move into their craft. And that's kind of where
Speaker 1: that that part of the memory stops. I don't know
Speaker 1: what was done to me that was hidden. The next
Speaker 1: part of the recall, I'm on my back staring up
Speaker 1: into the sky on our driveway, and I remember seeing
Speaker 1: the lights or the sky above me is completely multicolored
Speaker 1: and shifting like a great big tin wheel in the sky,
Speaker 1: and at the center is a black kind of star
Speaker 1: like shape spoor ling along with it, which I always
Speaker 1: thought was you know, that was bizarre.
Speaker 3: Later on, I'll have met a.
Speaker 1: Few other experiences through Opus who shared the same sort
Speaker 1: of experience with the multi colored sky. So that was
Speaker 1: very very interesting to me that many of us shared that.
Speaker 3: I've heard it from others as well.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: Another piece to that memory is I remember seeing while
Speaker 1: I'm on my back, I look to my right and
Speaker 1: I see my neighbor a young young girl. She's in
Speaker 1: this nightgown and carrying out like a brown long mirrored
Speaker 1: stuff funny, which is peculiar detail that I recall, and
Speaker 1: she gets up and runs her house. Well, not till
Speaker 1: this particular session was probably two or three years ago. Now,
Speaker 1: I didn't ever follow up with that neighbor until this
Speaker 1: summer when I was writing my book. I wanted to
Speaker 1: see if she had any recollection of it. We're pretty close,
Speaker 1: that neighbor and I good friends, so I figured, you know,
Speaker 1: she would be open to talking. What just blew me
Speaker 1: out of my box. There was such a shock, was well,
Speaker 1: she didn't remember anything like that happening, but she did
Speaker 1: say that she knew she was a star seed as well,
Speaker 1: some kind. But even more so was that she confirmed
Speaker 1: that she had that sort of stuffy and carried it
Speaker 1: with her all the time. So that to me confirmed
Speaker 1: that that memory was very very likely a true event,
Speaker 1: and that we may have been together when taken and
Speaker 1: brought back together. Just you know, just a crazy thing
Speaker 1: that this stuff can reveal about your life if you
Speaker 1: look into it. Other sessions that kind of came out
Speaker 1: of that, we tried to get to the bottom of
Speaker 1: what happened at three forty three am, But it kept
Speaker 1: not producing much. Even my subconscious would say no, if
Speaker 1: it's blocked or it was very well hidden. There was
Speaker 1: a time where we might have gotten some feedback that
Speaker 1: it might have been a mistake, and they kind of
Speaker 1: screwed up and bring me back, and that's why I
Speaker 1: woke up early. Another part revealed that the Plenities was
Speaker 1: likely involved in the visitors that I've been experiencing in
Speaker 1: my life, and that there are other times in my
Speaker 1: life that I'm probably were near or saw different types
Speaker 1: of craft from who elsewhere. One looked like an egg
Speaker 1: on three legs with the Christmas tree lights inside. Another
Speaker 1: one looked like a weird fidgetoy with three or four
Speaker 1: The first one was much smaller, about the size of
Speaker 1: a person, and the next one that I remember seeing
Speaker 1: in this other stud and was massive and it was
Speaker 1: over trees and hills and like three arms with circles
Speaker 1: cut out in each end, slowly passing over the countryside.
Speaker 3: A two years.
Speaker 1: Ago, my dad passed away. And now this isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: UFO related, but I think it is related in who
Speaker 1: I am and just kind of coming to terms with
Speaker 1: that I might attract some other paranormal things. He passed away.
Speaker 1: We were cleaning out his house, and you know, you
Speaker 1: hear about the hitchhiker effect these days. I think it
Speaker 1: was brought up in a few books about Skinwalker Ranch
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. Well, after we clean out
Speaker 1: the house, I noticed that I felt like I was
Speaker 1: fighting something at home and in my dream that was
Speaker 1: not of this world. A lot of knights I would
Speaker 1: haven't tell yet. I feel like something was in our room,
Speaker 1: being afraid to go to bed, and then I would
Speaker 1: have these bizarre nightmarees of different things. One night I
Speaker 1: woke up choking in I had march on my filt.
Speaker 1: I had dreams of being lifted and paralyzed many times,
Speaker 1: like I was unable to move, like something to have
Speaker 1: control of me.
Speaker 3: And then wake up.
Speaker 1: And I started having like thoughts of harm and visions
Speaker 1: and dark events to come. And another night I heard
Speaker 1: Latin prayer evolving in a dream and a gush of wind,
Speaker 1: and then those thoughts were gotten.
Speaker 3: The next day, just.
Speaker 1: This incredible journey of a lot of unexplainable things. And
Speaker 1: during that time, as I was falling asleep, I'd see
Speaker 1: flashes of green lights and triangles and I'm falling asleep.
Speaker 1: Now more recently, in the last couple of years, a
Speaker 1: lot of the overtly kind of visitation and strange things
Speaker 1: have kind of stopped. But I did have a year
Speaker 1: where I was walking most nights and I would see owls,
Speaker 1: owls every night, different owls, owls in different areas. I
Speaker 1: remember another night I was walking and I saw what
Speaker 1: I think was a UFO in the era constellation. It
Speaker 1: could have been a firefly, but I don't think so.
Speaker 1: There was a bunch out, but this was way up
Speaker 1: high above me. It's about the size of a star,
Speaker 1: the same color, of same brightness, and it just suddenly
Speaker 1: was moving and did a u turn very fast and
Speaker 1: very sharply, and then disappeared. It was probably you know,
Speaker 1: the span of two fingers outstretched that this happened up
Speaker 1: in the sky. And what was really weird it is
Speaker 1: I something got this like because I'm walking, Oh you
Speaker 1: should look up, you know thought It was like my
Speaker 1: own thought, oh you should look up, like someone was
Speaker 1: getting my attention. That's why it always kind of stuck
Speaker 1: out with me.
Speaker 3: Is very unique.
Speaker 1: More recently, like in the last you know, six months,
Speaker 1: weird dreams of I'm always at these meeting places where
Speaker 1: like a lot of people would meet, you know, weird
Speaker 1: type of airport, hotels or schools or shopping areas. It's
Speaker 1: very weird. I've also had a bunch of people reach
Speaker 1: out to me on social media after seeing the documentary
Speaker 1: that I was part of. They were very moved by
Speaker 1: it felt like very connected, and one lady even felt
Speaker 1: like she knew me from somewhere, like deeply. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just this phenomenon is so multifaceted and layered. It's
Speaker 1: very hard to just put it into one nice, neat package.
Speaker 1: That's something I've been kind of working through and I
Speaker 1: guess trying to understand better, and you know, I guess
Speaker 1: kind of ultimately, I've tried to live all my life
Speaker 1: in the normal world, always knowing that I really probably
Speaker 1: didn't fit. I'm no longer a maybe person. I'm pretty sure,
Speaker 1: you know, after all these things occurred, that there is
Speaker 1: more going on out there, the consciousness of the universe.
Speaker 1: Things that go bump in the night are real, and
Speaker 1: I encourage everyone who may have these sort of things
Speaker 1: to try to find the courage to go on their
Speaker 1: own journey of discovery, you know. I just I hope
Speaker 1: that's what everybody can get out of this, and if
Speaker 1: they'd like, you know, they can read more in my
Speaker 1: book which is sale on Amazon. It is three forty
Speaker 1: three Am Awakenings.
Speaker 3: Of an Experience or so.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say thanks for everybody and for
Speaker 1: you posting and allow me to share my story. I
Speaker 1: hope it encourages others to come forward, to share the
Speaker 1: stories and bring the truth out there.
Speaker 2: That's great, interesting, Tim, thank you. When you would have
Speaker 2: these dreams, these experiences, did you ever notice any physical
Speaker 2: changes or marks on your body as these occurrences?
Speaker 1: Not many, No, No, I just remember that I almost
Speaker 1: always would wake up afterwards and it would be you know,
Speaker 1: later on after the three forty three am stuff. There
Speaker 1: was different times night, but no no markings that I
Speaker 1: can remember.
Speaker 2: What about anything health wise?
Speaker 1: Ever?
Speaker 2: Have any problems or do you see improvements or any
Speaker 2: decline in health?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting you say that, definitely. I guess you
Speaker 1: would say decline in health. I mean, they're more weird
Speaker 1: things than actual bad health. And I guess some of
Speaker 1: them have led to some problems, some issues, some good
Speaker 1: challenges and every time I've gone to a doctor. I've
Speaker 1: been seeing a lot many for a while, They've not
Speaker 1: been able to come up with an explanation. There's no
Speaker 1: clear indicator of what's going on. For example, just this year,
Speaker 1: what was I mean? I can give you the scientific
Speaker 1: name of pleomorphic adenoma removed from my left salivary, which
Speaker 1: is your space land. And what I found interesting was that,
Speaker 1: you know, only really people who smoke or you know,
Speaker 1: been in other chemical, highly potent chemical areas get those.
Speaker 1: I'm not a smoker. I've never been in you know,
Speaker 1: chemical area like that or worked in that field. When
Speaker 1: I did my own research. Okay, of course I asked
Speaker 1: the doctors in directly face to face. They just kind
Speaker 1: of shake their head and we don't really know what's
Speaker 1: going on at But if you look defind cases that
Speaker 1: people have received radiation treatment to their neck, can't often
Speaker 1: get those. But I've never had radiation therapy. So the
Speaker 1: only thing I can think of is well, process of
Speaker 1: elimination is the fringe science. Those things that have happened
Speaker 1: to me couldn't be part of that, you know, I
Speaker 1: can briefly list other things. Got anxiety, Clearly, I had
Speaker 1: some PTSD from the experiences. As far as waking up,
Speaker 1: I have had vision changes of visual snow long ago
Speaker 1: I started having those these sensations of like spider winds,
Speaker 1: cotton touching my face all the time, which you know
Speaker 1: isn't bad help, but man, it was freaking annoying because
Speaker 1: nothing was there, and I kept feeling like something was
Speaker 1: sleep problems, gaps roun testinal issues that they can't figure out.
Speaker 1: And now I've got this partial. I just saw my
Speaker 1: neurologists and was having issues with sensation, burning mouth, couldn't
Speaker 1: feel things in my mouth, taste, I couldn't feel things
Speaker 1: on my head, and you know, did MRIs. They really
Speaker 1: couldn't find anything that they thought would be responsible for it. Now,
Speaker 1: I was in a car accident two years ago, but
Speaker 1: they tell me that I didn't have any brain damage,
Speaker 1: nothing lasting, just a concussion that I'm supposedly healed from.
Speaker 1: But it was like probably since the time of three
Speaker 1: or forty three am awakening that there was a slow
Speaker 1: decline in just overall good health.
Speaker 2: I would say, Okay, yeah, it is something which does
Speaker 2: come up during these experiences. If you do, you don't
Speaker 2: have to go into too much detail. If you don't
Speaker 2: want to, but do you recall any procedures or experiments
Speaker 2: that may have been done on you at that time?
Speaker 1: I would say not, not consciously. I don't remember anything
Speaker 1: like that. The only thing that I could say is
Speaker 1: the early recurring nightmares probably were you know, procedures taking
Speaker 1: I guess we all have heard this now semen or
Speaker 1: something from when I was younger with that device. I
Speaker 1: remember just how awful that felt so and it wasn't
Speaker 1: like it was just a dream. I mean, I really
Speaker 1: remember feeling it each of those times I had that
Speaker 1: recurring nightmare. Beyond that, like I said, whatever happened at
Speaker 1: three forty three am is completely blocked from me. Don't
Speaker 1: know what happened there. So I would probably only say
Speaker 1: that one one thing, but I'm sure that there has
Speaker 1: been many others. I forgot to mention that as a kid,
Speaker 1: I noticed that my steps them in. My nose was
Speaker 1: always goofy. It was pushed to one side, the left side.
Speaker 1: I'd have bloody noses all the time, and just recently
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, having imaging done on it there,
Speaker 1: the doctors like, dude, did you ever break your nose
Speaker 1: or have an injury to your face and I'm like no,
Speaker 1: and they showed me it's pretty messed up in there,
Speaker 1: and you know, they never happened to me. The only
Speaker 1: theory I have is, of course we hear about people
Speaker 1: who have had things done in their nasal passageways, and
Speaker 1: like I said, there wasn't a conscious memory. But in
Speaker 1: one of the hypnosis sessions, I do remember a procedure
Speaker 1: being done where I'm laying down and I'm seeing this
Speaker 1: rod that's in a rectangular shape coming towards my face
Speaker 1: and it's got this blue energy in it, and I
Speaker 1: remember it pop in my nose and then that part
Speaker 1: of that hypnosis memory goes away. So you know, if
Speaker 1: you put everything together, I guess the answer.
Speaker 3: Of the yes.
Speaker 1: And we call another scene from one of the sessions
Speaker 1: where I'm outside my body looking at what looks to
Speaker 1: be a kind of a weird creature with a scalpel
Speaker 1: like device instrument in their handout to do something to
Speaker 1: my right hip, and it has these weird inscriptions on it.
Speaker 1: But at the time when I'm noticing him, he looks
Speaker 1: at me in the session and then it all stops. Now,
Speaker 1: what's interesting about that is just this year of recovery
Speaker 1: from the car actent. They did imaging of my abdomen
Speaker 1: and hips and stuff, my lower spine. They saw that
Speaker 1: I had a bone island in the right hip.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a coincidence or what, but
Speaker 1: those are the facts there, and you know, you can
Speaker 1: interpret as you will.
Speaker 2: When you were younger, was there any things that seemed
Speaker 2: to have stood out? I mean, I'm talking on the
Speaker 2: lines of teleprophy and synchronicities and feelings. Is there anything
Speaker 2: that stands out from when you were a child when
Speaker 2: some of these things started to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it wasn't even when these things would happen,
Speaker 1: but I always felt and I couldn't explaining this and
Speaker 1: when I was really young, but as I got older
Speaker 1: and I found a word for it, impact empathy. I
Speaker 1: always felt the energy and moods of other people around.
Speaker 3: Me all the time.
Speaker 1: I felt very connected to animals, like I knew what
Speaker 1: they were feeling and they knew what I was feeling,
Speaker 1: and I was always drawn to them quite a bit.
Speaker 1: As far as the events as they would happen, there's
Speaker 1: not conscious memories of like hey am talking to you,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, telling me to go do this. You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of accounts of people hearing a
Speaker 1: voice like, can't go outside, and I didn't know why
Speaker 1: or who it was, and I went outside and then
Speaker 1: the event starts. No, that didn't happen until probably my
Speaker 1: mid thirties, when I was having these really profoundly lucid
Speaker 1: dreams where I wasn't I knew I was dreaming, but
Speaker 1: I was not just dreaming, and I was having these
Speaker 1: information exchanges from somebody. The first one being I was like,
Speaker 1: in this room, it was all round, I'm standing, and
Speaker 1: I hear this louge booming voice just say like three
Speaker 1: words to me. And it was something I looked up later,
Speaker 1: trillium taco ferao glycosaatees. Like, what the hell? How why
Speaker 1: would I think that in my dream?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I looked it up later and it had it's some
Speaker 1: sort of experimental cancer treatment chemical made from the trillium roots,
Speaker 1: trillium being a plant. I had a couple of pre
Speaker 1: cognitive dreams and during this time of a blizzard and
Speaker 1: the next day a blizzard was, you know, totally blanking
Speaker 1: our entire city. There was also some I think, some
Speaker 1: sort of message about people that might have passed somewhere,
Speaker 1: and I was given some information and looked it up,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of close to being actress. And
Speaker 1: again it was very limited, like during the day doing
Speaker 1: my every day stuff, not really so much that you know,
Speaker 1: not a lot of like telepathy or kind of things
Speaker 1: going on in that nature. I do talk about a
Speaker 1: very kind of a darker synchronous city. When we were
Speaker 1: a kid, my friend and I, it's a really silly one.
Speaker 1: We were listening to some music in his basement.
Speaker 3: He had a pet cat, and.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we hear the cat kind of
Speaker 1: rustling against his laundry room door, and we look over
Speaker 1: and it's laying upside down, kind of pushing on it.
Speaker 1: We didn't think anything of it at the time, and
Speaker 1: then it did even more and then stopped, and one
Speaker 1: of us, I think I think I did first, went
Speaker 1: over to check on the cat, and it stopped moving,
Speaker 1: but I put my ear to its chest and I
Speaker 1: could hear its heart beating, but it got flower with
Speaker 1: every beat, and it eventually stopped, and we think the
Speaker 1: cat cata seizure and passed away, which is really awful
Speaker 1: and sad. It was always always stuck with my friend
Speaker 1: and I is that the song that was playing with
Speaker 1: Metallica's Die I Die, My Darling, And it's just that's
Speaker 1: sort of synchronicity you just can't make up. It was
Speaker 1: just the weirdest thing in My friend and I have
Speaker 1: always from that day paid attention to the little weird
Speaker 1: things in life. Like people now it's memes about the
Speaker 1: glitches and the matrix, but we've always noticed little things
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, that's exactly it. You mentioned that your mother
Speaker 2: had had a UFO sit in. Is there anything that
Speaker 2: your mother is ever mentioned to you? Maybe she had
Speaker 2: possibly empathic abilities as well.
Speaker 1: I think she's very similar along those lines. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think that's probably where I got it from, because
Speaker 1: we can often have conversations and we don't have to
Speaker 1: say too much with each other, and we know what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. As far as like those those sightings
Speaker 1: and things, she doesn't like to talk about them a lot,
Speaker 1: so I don't really know all the details, just that
Speaker 1: she probably did. They were very startling, and she was younger,
Speaker 1: and you know that she was changed by them. But
Speaker 1: it's like a part of her that kind of she
Speaker 1: keeps hidden. Away from a lot of people, but shared
Speaker 1: with me and my family. So it's just very interesting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think she has some definite abilities that
Speaker 1: she's probably less aware of or less willing to put
Speaker 1: out there, but I know she capable of that, and
Speaker 1: she does kind of wonder sometimes.
Speaker 2: Okay, So these type of subjects, it wasn't stuff wasn't
Speaker 2: really discussed in the house, your childhood home.
Speaker 1: Not when we were young, not at all. No. No,
Speaker 1: as as I got older and I started going through
Speaker 1: these things and started wondering, and she shared with me
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. We did talk as adults about
Speaker 1: this stuff, and it was much more. She's very open
Speaker 1: to this stuff and it finds it very interesting, all
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So yeah, I mean we had
Speaker 1: things that happened that were just generally weird that we
Speaker 1: talked about when you're kids, but nothing like that that
Speaker 1: wasn'tuntil we were later much older.
Speaker 2: Would you say that your experiences have they been positive, negative,
Speaker 2: or even neutral?
Speaker 1: I would say I'll until this point, just from the
Speaker 1: things that I can remember. I try to balance this
Speaker 1: with how everything was at the time. If you just
Speaker 1: go by back when I was waking up, it was
Speaker 1: terror sheer terror when I would see the two pictures,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, terror, So probably right now where I'm standing,
Speaker 1: probably neutral. I would like to shift the balance to positive,
Speaker 1: just because of all the community and great people and
Speaker 1: support and understanding I've met. But back in the early
Speaker 1: days when these were happening, I mean, they're nightmarish things
Speaker 1: going on, feeling terror and dread and ivan PTSD like symptoms,
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going on seeing those pictures, that's of
Speaker 1: course the negative, you know. But if I have, which
Speaker 1: is my goal, more understanding of what is going on
Speaker 1: and the why, and more enlightenment. My goal is to
Speaker 1: hopefully see this from a broader perspective and develop a
Speaker 1: more neutral, positive understanding of it.
Speaker 2: So would you say these experiences over time have changed
Speaker 2: your life and your perspective?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But I always that's the funny thing. I always
Speaker 1: had a suspicion that stuff that we don't play under
Speaker 1: stand have always been going on.
Speaker 5: But it did. It did.
Speaker 1: It's once I had those experiences in my mid twenties
Speaker 1: and then had the drive and passion to figure it out. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it changed everything about me. It changed life forever. I mean,
Speaker 1: knowing that it might have been alive in another life,
Speaker 1: have maybe an eternal soul like what a lot of
Speaker 1: people talk about, and having another soulmate. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: how do you balance all this stuff? You know, you're
Speaker 1: always wondering, You're always going, well, what is going on? There?
Speaker 1: Is this really real Sometimes, like the dreams can get
Speaker 1: so vivid that when you wake up you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm awake. Right, It's just changed so much. Meeting different people,
Speaker 1: some really wonderful people I never would have met if
Speaker 1: I didn't have these experiences trying to find answers. I
Speaker 1: think I really grew up as a person as well,
Speaker 1: really matured in some ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. This is a good thing about the
Speaker 2: show is people come on and share, and you know
Speaker 2: you're actually reaching people which aren't involved in the community.
Speaker 2: You know, they don't really have other people to talk
Speaker 2: to and share with. It's important to find a community,
Speaker 2: you know, network with other people which have had these experiences.
Speaker 2: You'll find some common ground. You won't always necessarily get
Speaker 2: the answers, but you'll certainly find connections and friendships. Possibly
Speaker 2: can meet some wonderful people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably one of the biggest things is even
Speaker 1: your closest family members, you know your wife or you
Speaker 1: know significant other kids. You can share so much for them,
Speaker 1: but they truly don't have the understanding if they haven't
Speaker 1: gone through it. And finding those people out there who
Speaker 1: have and are in the same position and are just
Speaker 1: really yearning to understand what has happened, and you can
Speaker 1: bounce ideas off of them. You can like the wildest
Speaker 1: thing like, well, this to me what you guys all think,
Speaker 1: and some of them might come back and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: that exact thing happened to me. I did this. I
Speaker 1: found out about this with regards to it. And then
Speaker 1: while you have an understanding of something that has been
Speaker 1: aching at you forever, and you can let that piece
Speaker 1: be I guess resolved.
Speaker 3: You know you have a peace about it.
Speaker 1: That part that is unsettled can then rest and you
Speaker 1: can move on. It's really about like processing, understanding and
Speaker 1: awareness and moving on and like taking all that as
Speaker 1: a whole person and just living in a much different,
Speaker 1: hopefully better way for everybody. And that's a lot due
Speaker 1: to these communities.
Speaker 2: It is important because you know, I've had guests on
Speaker 2: it which have never shared these experiences, and sometimes it
Speaker 2: can be forty odd years from the time about the
Speaker 2: experience of the time, and they're sharing it. You know,
Speaker 2: I've never told anyone, including family members in some cases,
Speaker 2: and of course it can be difficult telling your friends
Speaker 2: that can be very fifty to fifty. The hard thing
Speaker 2: is he's shared these experiences with your own family members.
Speaker 2: You need the closest people to you, and they don't
Speaker 2: believe you. You know, that can be very difficult to have
Speaker 2: someone not believe you. It's one thing to listen, it's
Speaker 2: a very different thing to believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I was fortunate. I think in my family
Speaker 1: nobody really outright disbelieve me, and we're very most of
Speaker 1: the time, very supportive. But again, you know, most didn't
Speaker 1: have a way to truly relate to it or understand.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was very careful in who I
Speaker 1: was more vocal about it too, and how much I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, some relatives that might have a
Speaker 1: harder time. I might just hear like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I had some experiences and they're really in my life.
Speaker 1: Or like with my mom, I can probably be the
Speaker 1: most open about it because of her own experiences and
Speaker 1: she's just more of an open understanding person with this,
Speaker 1: you know, respect to the stuff. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite comfortable like some people might be going
Speaker 1: out there in a lot of mainstream realm and me
Speaker 1: and like, hey, you know, this happened to me. But
Speaker 1: this book and speaking and sharing has been really part
Speaker 1: of this process of kind of healing and growth and
Speaker 1: trying to get through all.
Speaker 2: This stuff, educating and healing. Three forty three am Awakening
Speaker 2: of an experiencer. Where can people get you booked? Tim?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 1: They can get it on Amazon. It's an e book
Speaker 1: on Kindle and unlimited Kindle Unlimited. It's in paperback in
Speaker 1: a hardcover version.
Speaker 2: Many different options. I've used kind or and I don't
Speaker 2: mind it, but I love the smell of a book.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. If I can get a paperback of books, I
Speaker 1: am all over it. So that's why I wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure a paperback was available.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll put Tim's links below to the Amazon and
Speaker 2: his website, and you have images as well that people
Speaker 2: can view.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely wonderful stuff.
Speaker 2: You did. Great, Tim. You said you were nervous, but
Speaker 2: you know we didn't pick up on any of that.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Well, that usually
Speaker 1: is the result of having a very friendly and gracious
Speaker 1: and awesome host. So I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: We never judge people. I never get people on here
Speaker 2: to say that didn't happen to you, or you're mistaken,
Speaker 2: this is what happened to you. We don't do that.
Speaker 2: There's shows that do, sure enough, but you know we don't.
Speaker 2: This is like I said, this is more of a
Speaker 2: digital campfire, you know, where we can just hear people's
Speaker 2: accounts and people can take from it as they will
Speaker 2: some friendentertainment, yeah, others because they're you know, they are
Speaker 2: going through their own experiences and they're looking for they're
Speaker 2: looking for a lighthouse, you know, they're looking for direction.
Speaker 2: So it really helps. So yeah, and every episode I release,
Speaker 2: I get a ton more emails from people which you
Speaker 2: have either had the same experience or seen the same thing,
Speaker 2: going through the same problems. So it does help. So
Speaker 2: you know there's people listening out there which will get
Speaker 2: a lot from you. Tim.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I hope. So, you know, I think that's
Speaker 1: a wonderful just a great way to approach it, just
Speaker 1: letting people share and they can take what they will
Speaker 1: from it, and that was really what I wanted to
Speaker 1: do with my book too, Like, hey, this is what
Speaker 1: happened to me. Some of it I don't even want
Speaker 1: to believe, and you take from it what you will.
Speaker 1: And I hope it helps other people because I didn't
Speaker 1: know where to go when I was struggling through all this,
Speaker 1: and I've made a lot of mistakes and went down
Speaker 1: some rabbit holes I should know, and I'm just hoping
Speaker 1: that this will help others come to their own truth
Speaker 1: and be at peace with it a little bit faster
Speaker 1: maybe than I did.
Speaker 2: That is unfortunately a process, and a lot include myself,
Speaker 2: have all gone down that that way.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. I mean it was it
Speaker 1: was really great being here with you. It's a great
Speaker 1: show and a great format, and I just love you
Speaker 1: for it, so thank you again.
Speaker 2: You're more than welcome, Tim. Like I said, this show
Speaker 2: wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the guests like yourself
Speaker 2: and the listeners. Tim, I really appreciate you coming on
Speaker 2: and sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Great to meet you and get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: It's always good to make a new friend. Tim. Okay,
Speaker 2: keep in contact all right and we will speak soon.
Speaker 2: And you enjoy the rest of your evening.
Speaker 1: All right, Pak soon you Toobe.
Speaker 2: Take care, take care bye and now Tim Brighte, Well
Speaker 2: that's it for this episode. Keep updated and connected with
Speaker 2: the show on x, Facebook and Instagram. And if you
Speaker 2: haven't encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,
Speaker 2: you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,
Speaker 2: or you can reach out to me via the contact
Speaker 2: page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A
Speaker 2: big thank you to Tim for sharing tonight, and as always,
Speaker 2: thank you all for listening. I will be back next week.
Speaker 2: Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye
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