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<v Speaker 1>All right. This is Jeff Crampton from Hokatoke, Alberta, Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>and I play at the Roco Golf Course in Calgary,

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<v Speaker 1>but like Fred, I also like to play EPCs on

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<v Speaker 1>Santi Bay and Baja Mexico. This is golf Smarter number

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<v Speaker 1>of nine fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I know one of Brad's good friends, Jason Logan, the

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<v Speaker 2>editor of Score Golf. He was a guy who's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't wear a golf glove, just grew up, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>need it, didn't want one, and he finally tried one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he got a free glove in a tournament

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<v Speaker 2>or something, and he just hadn't worn a glove in

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen years, and he was amazed at the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>My golf spy did some testing with golfers who wore

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<v Speaker 2>a glove and didn't wear a glove, and you'll hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ball further, so you have better control of the club,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's data on it can actually increase your distance.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was fairly nominal, but it will have

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<v Speaker 2>an impact on your game. I can't imagine playing golf

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<v Speaker 2>without one. I get fairly sweaty hands and sometimes I'll

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<v Speaker 2>chip without a glove. Maybe for a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>extra feel, but I couldn't hit a full shot, couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine it. I think the data is something like ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of golfers wear golf glove.

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<v Speaker 3>Red Rooster golf Gloves continues to raise the bar and

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<v Speaker 3>turn heads with co founder Kerrie Mark. This is Golf Smarter,

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<v Speaker 3>sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf minds to

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<v Speaker 3>help you lower your score and raise your golf IQ.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf

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<v Speaker 3>Smarter podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Carry Hello, Fred, great to see.

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<v Speaker 3>You, Bud, so glad to have you back on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And before we go anywhere, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for supporting our Golf Smarter Ambassador

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<v Speaker 3>program and giving gloves and glove storage compartments to the

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<v Speaker 3>Golf Smarter Ambassadors who request them. We give them a

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<v Speaker 3>choice of gifts and yours has been one for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time and I really appreciate your generosity with this.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been great. Yeah, they seem to really enjoy getting

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<v Speaker 2>to choose from our wide range of gloves. And I

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a really cool update for you on the

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<v Speaker 2>glove compartment. We're working on the two point zero version

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be able to share one of the pre production prototypes.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, well, I you know, you recently sent me

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<v Speaker 3>the latest glove compartment. It's beautiful. It's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if it's leather, but it feels like it. It

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<v Speaker 3>looks like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're upgrading from that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have an update on that. So we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>we do have an upgrade on that. We're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>do working with customs. We're working with some golf courses,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing some corporate events, member guests. To be able

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<v Speaker 2>to while we're talking, I'll show you we can do

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<v Speaker 2>like embroidery, okay, so we can customize it. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing this is the latest and greatest. It's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like an etched pewter, so you can sort of

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<v Speaker 2>So we're starting to be able to customize that. We

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<v Speaker 2>obviously been selling a lot of them to our own customers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the higher end version of the glove compartment. We

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<v Speaker 2>call it the cockpit, and it's more of a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go in the in the shoe locker. You can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>throw it in your bag, as opposed to the glove compartment,

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<v Speaker 2>which hangs on your bag and you know, you sort

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<v Speaker 2>of dry the gloves during the round, so they.

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<v Speaker 3>We just call them all cockpit. I think that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great name. That's a Brad's wife. She

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<v Speaker 2>comes up with all these amazing names. She's just got

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<v Speaker 2>a great marketing mind. And most of the names of

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<v Speaker 2>our products.

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<v Speaker 3>She let me ask where red Rooster golf. That name

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<v Speaker 3>came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's actually my nickname.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can see my Oh you have red hair,

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<v Speaker 3>so red rooster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my dad, I mean I have My mom and

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<v Speaker 2>dad have of dark brown hair, and all my siblings

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<v Speaker 2>I have. I have four siblings. I'm the only redhead

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<v Speaker 2>in the family. And my dad used to call me

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<v Speaker 2>the red Rooster. That was my nickname. And we liked

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of the tagline, wake up your golf game,

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<v Speaker 2>and we kind of came up with the name and

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<v Speaker 2>tried to beat it and and we couldn't come up

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<v Speaker 2>with anything better.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's I'm glad it's not the ginger golf. And

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<v Speaker 3>how's business. I mean, it's really come a long way

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<v Speaker 3>since we were first introduced to red Rooster golf. When

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<v Speaker 3>you were just had this idea of creating a glove

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<v Speaker 3>subscription service, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we've been chatting since our Kickstarter launch, so

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<v Speaker 2>you've been with us from the start and that that

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<v Speaker 2>started as well. And you know, I know you were

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<v Speaker 2>intrigued by the subscription service and I remember having a

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<v Speaker 2>really good chat to just kind of talk through that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's still, you know, you know, our most popular I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's our best service. It's just it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>know when to change a glove, and when gloves arrive,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that nice reminder and it's you get our best price.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course we sell lots of gloves just people

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<v Speaker 2>can buy them as needed. It's so easy with shop

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<v Speaker 2>pay and once you create an account, and we're always releasing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've got eleven new glove styles to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of show you here. We're doing lots of fun things

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<v Speaker 2>with colors and with different celebrating you know, Fourth of

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<v Speaker 2>July Canada Day, the British open, so there's lots of

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<v Speaker 2>call them like sort of mini drops, So lots of

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<v Speaker 2>lots of our customers are just flexible to see what's

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<v Speaker 2>the latest and greatest kind of like color or style

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<v Speaker 2>we come out with, and they want to be flexible

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<v Speaker 2>to grab them. But it's ever since the Kickstarter and

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<v Speaker 2>we launched later that fall, it's just been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that hockey stick Curve just continues to grow.

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<v Speaker 3>Canadians love the hockey stick Curve.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, and so and so do entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. It's it's so viral. You know, golf such

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<v Speaker 2>a social game. So when you find a product and

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<v Speaker 2>if it delivers and it meets your expectations, you tend

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<v Speaker 2>to brag about it and recruit and golfers, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>talk and share. So product's good and we get lots

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<v Speaker 2>of word of mouth advertising, so we just continue to grow.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations, the product is very good. Thank you, very good.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you first kicked did the Kickstarter campaign? What

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<v Speaker 3>what did you have a five year plan and think

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<v Speaker 3>about expansion. I'm sure that you did, because you do

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<v Speaker 3>have a great business mind. But what were you hoping

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<v Speaker 3>to achieve with Kickstarter? And then how did you see

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<v Speaker 3>that developing?

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<v Speaker 2>That always, yeah, that's a good question. We did. We

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<v Speaker 2>did do some strategic planning. That's how we came up

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<v Speaker 2>with We did envision ourselves five years down the line.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things that that exercise really helped

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<v Speaker 2>us do is we thought about we imagined ourselves being

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<v Speaker 2>fairly successful, and I would say we're ahead of expectations

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<v Speaker 2>at this point going into year three, which is which

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<v Speaker 2>is great. I think we tried to be fairly conservative

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<v Speaker 2>and I was a big fan of the Kevin Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand true fans. That was kind of we felt

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<v Speaker 2>like we needed to start there. And the Kickstarter goal

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<v Speaker 2>was to get eleven get a thousand backers. We thought

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<v Speaker 2>if we could, if we can convince a thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>to buy gloves from us, it'll sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll tell a friend of a friend and things will

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<v Speaker 2>sort of mushroom and grow. And the Kickstarter we got

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<v Speaker 2>was eleven hundred eighty seven backers, so it you know,

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<v Speaker 2>met the expectations, exceeded them, and we felt like we

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<v Speaker 2>could build a business around that, especially on the subscription model.

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<v Speaker 2>We have more than two thousand subscribers, but this year alone,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have more than fifteen thousand customers. You know, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably sell seventy five thousand gloves this year.

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<v Speaker 3>You are kidding, no, So it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been going great.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, where does that put you in the glove industry,

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<v Speaker 3>Are you like serious competitors.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, No, we're still we're still pretty small. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the market's huge, you know, there's there's there's no definitive data,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's between sort of fifty and sixty million gloves

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<v Speaker 2>are sold every year in the United States alone. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a huge market, but most of it is

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<v Speaker 2>through appropriate the gloves are sold through pro shops and

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<v Speaker 2>so that's still you know, we're a direct to consumer brand.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we did the five year visioning, the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing we identified was if we're successful, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>give back. What would that look like. That's how we

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<v Speaker 2>came up with the Play at Forward program where we

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<v Speaker 2>donate gloves to youth golf and that's been amazing, just

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<v Speaker 2>super rewarding to give kids these gloves. And our youth

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<v Speaker 2>gloves come in eight sizes, you know, four sizes for

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<v Speaker 2>each hand. We have the smallest glove available in the

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<v Speaker 2>market period. Because I have three daughters who I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 2>desperately trying to convince to play golf, and they're tough

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<v Speaker 2>nut to crack, but all three of them, even though

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<v Speaker 2>they're twelve, ten, and seven, they wear our smallest glove

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<v Speaker 2>and they're tiny girls with small hands, and there were

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<v Speaker 2>no gloves that fit them that we could find, so

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<v Speaker 2>that we sort of it was sort of problem solution.

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<v Speaker 2>That give back has been great. But I think the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing is, as we sort of thought about the

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<v Speaker 2>five year visioning, we never we thought we would be

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<v Speaker 2>direct to consumer. Maybe maybe forever we didn't. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really think about the sort of retail slash golf shops,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're really being pulled in that direction. We get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of golf clubs reaching out to us because

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<v Speaker 2>they see a lot of their members or a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of their guests wearing red rooster gloves. They know, they

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<v Speaker 2>hear about the quality, and they they'd like to carry them.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're planning on attending the PGA Show next year

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<v Speaker 2>with the intention of I call it sort of tiptoeing

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<v Speaker 2>into to retail. We will work with, you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>select partners where there's a fit. There's obviously no golf

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<v Speaker 2>shops that aren't already selling gloves, so what we're offering

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<v Speaker 2>isn't novel, but our our approach is a little bit different,

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<v Speaker 2>our price points a little bit different, and obviously our

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<v Speaker 2>give back programs unique. So that's kind of going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the next phase, which five years ago we couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have envisioned, you know, year four moving into retail, but

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<v Speaker 2>here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the advantage of being a direct to consumer company

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<v Speaker 3>in a space like golf that is so attached to

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's owning the customer experience, So we don't

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<v Speaker 2>in the direct to consumer space, We're not handing that off.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, we take full responsibility for the product

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<v Speaker 2>and for the relationship. So we love that. So our

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<v Speaker 2>customer service is a big part of what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you know, we're still doing and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>when we did the Kickstarter we old twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>gloves to eleven hundred customers, and when we finally got

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<v Speaker 2>those gloves, you know, three or four months later, we

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<v Speaker 2>did handwritten notes to everybody we were really appreciative of.

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<v Speaker 2>We call that group OURRGS, our Red Rooster Original Gangsters.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, every time I received a glove and I

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we still do it, We enjoy it. We know

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<v Speaker 2>tell a friend. But we also we offer we call

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<v Speaker 2>it our best Glove Guarantee, like any issues. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>and any issues it's and no questions asked, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>typically exchange. I can't remember ever issuing a refund. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're golf gloves. They're made of soft leather. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>We've also got a great manufacturing partner, and it's rare,

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<v Speaker 2>but we enjoy the interaction. Live chat, lots of email,

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmingly the feedback so positive that it's so fun to

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<v Speaker 2>that relationship, you know, you ship the gloves to them

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<v Speaker 2>and they take over, and they're now you're playing middle

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<v Speaker 2>you know, playing a bit of telephone. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>they have issues, we'll fully support them, but we're not

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<v Speaker 3>And would you rather be in pro shops or retail

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<v Speaker 3>or PGA superstore type of situations? Do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we want to start with with golf courses. So

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, and that and we're at the point

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<v Speaker 2>now where we can handle that. So, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>three years in, we've got that pretty dialed in. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're learning, you know, a new channel. So we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to move slowly. We have a number of courses that

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<v Speaker 2>have expressed interest for you, and so we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like start with our best friends where there's

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<v Speaker 2>So we're looking for partners willing to you know, we will.

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<v Speaker 2>We're pretty honest that this is all new for us

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<v Speaker 2>and be all new for us next year. We'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>along the way, So we want to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not sort of pushing our way in making a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sales calls. We actually just have a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of golf courses that have expressed interest and this is

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<v Speaker 2>them and meet those needs. So we'll kind of start

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<v Speaker 2>see how things go. But yeah, we're excited about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great. That's great. So by going to a retail

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<v Speaker 3>direction when you get there, does that make it more

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<v Speaker 3>healing for larger companies to buy you out? Is that

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<v Speaker 3>a goal for Red Rooster Golf? For you guys, now

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, no, no, we're in this one. We're taking

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's not really a consideration. I've never really thought of.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I have how a serial entrepreneur I have,

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<v Speaker 2>one I've never been in a business that I'm been

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<v Speaker 2>this passionate about. So I'm really enjoying it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing really well, which is great. We're making a

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<v Speaker 2>really good living, we're having fun doing it, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been through that where I did sell a

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<v Speaker 2>business and probably had some regret after just that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was enjoying it. It was making money, we were

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<v Speaker 2>having fun, and we sold it and we did well.

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<v Speaker 2>But all of a sudden, I had a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years there I was sort of soul searching and I'm I'm,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, forty six turning forty seven in a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm looking to do this for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>And so that wasn't really a consideration. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>actually just we're excited about the retail space because we've

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<v Speaker 2>got partners who really want us. So it's it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the right fit. We we kind of had said no,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we're like, why would we say no? These are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, perfectly good partners. It's a good channel. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to you know, push our way in or

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<v Speaker 2>we don't. It's a bit sort of stress free, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have a great manufacturing partner who can support us.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just it feels like the next logical step.

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<v Speaker 3>You're an August baby, Yes, me too, August eleventh, August fourth, okay, Leo, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think I've got twenty plus years on you.

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<v Speaker 3>You said forty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be forty seven on August eleventh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sixty nine, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking good for it? Looking good for sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, it's because we're both wearing our red shirts today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys have won some awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've done Yeah, we've done well. My golf Spy

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<v Speaker 2>has been awfully good to us score golf as well.

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<v Speaker 2>The you know, the product's really good. It's uh, we

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<v Speaker 2>we built It's funny because we tried. We wanted to differentiate.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we came into the market, the idea was

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<v Speaker 2>build a glove that last. There's this expectation from golfers

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<v Speaker 2>that when you buy, you know, the more you spend,

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<v Speaker 2>the longer that glove will last. But usually the more

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<v Speaker 2>you spend, the thinner and softer that glove is. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for instance, like the titleist players glove, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful glove, but it's built for touring pros. It's

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<v Speaker 2>good for a round or two realistically, especially in the heat.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, most golfers expect to get eight, ten,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve rounds out of a glove, so we built a

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<v Speaker 2>glove that will hold up to that. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>think the only knock was we don't have the thin

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<v Speaker 2>soft glove. So last summer we came up with the

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<v Speaker 2>Sussex that is our call it our tournament glove. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny because we only offer one glove in that

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<v Speaker 2>style and it's now our number one seller.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were sort of known for our durability and

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<v Speaker 2>known for our you know, still super soft glove, but

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<v Speaker 2>we'll sort of meat expectations and now our thin soft

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<v Speaker 2>glove is the glove that is outselling everything. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>nice to have options.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting because if you think about you want to

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<v Speaker 3>build a glove to last, I wonder if the consumer

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<v Speaker 3>impression of a subscription service, oh I can get a

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<v Speaker 3>new glove every month, I wonder if they're not very

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<v Speaker 3>good gloves. I mean, you know, you think the mindset

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<v Speaker 3>could be if they want me to change it out

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<v Speaker 3>every so often, then how good can the glove be?

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<v Speaker 3>And yet you're like, no, no, no, these gloves will

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<v Speaker 3>last you. And the other thing is, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>live on the West Coast. I don't have to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with humidity, so I don't go through gloves that fast.

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<v Speaker 3>The times that I've played in human weather, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this thing's changing color and sticking to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because I like taking off for putting, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We have found with subscribers that if anything, they because

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<v Speaker 2>our gloves last so long that they move off the

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<v Speaker 2>subscription because the reminder comes up and they're like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know this thing, I don't need it replace brand new

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<v Speaker 2>so far. So, but there's a lot of flexibility with

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<v Speaker 2>the subscription too, so it's not doesn't have to be monthly, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We have some who are on buy we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or they get multiple gloves when the gloves come in

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<v Speaker 2>a month, or you can get them every two months,

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<v Speaker 2>every three months. Every quarter, you can skip a shipment,

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<v Speaker 2>you can set you know, you can get a glove

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<v Speaker 2>in October and set your next one for April. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's the customers using the subscription are the ones who

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<v Speaker 2>are pretty active with it because you can change gloves.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get rain gloves one month, you can get

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<v Speaker 2>our practice glove, the range rooster, you can get a

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<v Speaker 2>new style, and you can so it's pretty flexible and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that are customers that use that flexibility are

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that that kind of appreciate it. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, others like to get five six gloves at

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<v Speaker 2>a time and there's their gloves for the year. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's more just giving people as many options as

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<v Speaker 2>possible so that they choose which one suits them best.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody wears gloves. Why do we wear gloves when we're

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're right. We actually have a lot of customers

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<v Speaker 2>who wear two gloves. Oh wear among both hands and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's for sun protection and for sometimes it's for feel.

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<v Speaker 2>But the gloves started it. It's for feel, right, especially

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<v Speaker 2>like in humid conditions, and it's that you know that

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<v Speaker 2>soft ca bread of leather, it's really tacky, so it

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<v Speaker 2>really it's for grip. I know one of Brad's good friends,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Logan, he's the editor of Score Golf, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was a guy who's like, hey, I don't wear a

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<v Speaker 2>golf glove and just grew up, didn't need it, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>got a free glove in a tournament or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>he just hadn't worn a glove in like fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was amazed at the difference. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>golf my golf spy did. They did some testing with

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<v Speaker 2>golfers who wore a glove and didn't wear a glove,

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<v Speaker 2>and you actually you'll hit the ball further, so you

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<v Speaker 2>and there's you know, data on it can actually increase

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<v Speaker 2>your distance. I think it was, you know, fairly nominal,

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<v Speaker 2>but it will have an impact on your game. I

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<v Speaker 2>hands and I can't hold on. Sometimes I'll chip without

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<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't hit a full shot. I couldn't imagine it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the data is something like ninety five percent

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<v Speaker 3>Incredible. Yeah, it makes total sense. And again I probably

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<v Speaker 3>when I pull out a wedge and definitely the putter,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll pull the glove off. So it goes on and

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<v Speaker 3>off and on and off. And I've never had any

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<v Speaker 3>problem with any tearing or wear like that. If I

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<v Speaker 2>That's where we see the most wear for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, but I think figuring out what size glove

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<v Speaker 3>to wear is probably a huge issue for most consumers.

419
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:43.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what we see we do. I mentioned we're doing

420
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:48.359
<v Speaker 2>a pro am brad Is a Brad's in Ottawa in

421
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>late July playing in the PJ Tour America's event, and

422
00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.759
<v Speaker 2>that program is two hundred people in it. And when

423
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.319
<v Speaker 2>we fit up those two hundred people, I would estimate

424
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.480
<v Speaker 2>that just about everybody's you know, got a glove. Most

425
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.079
<v Speaker 2>of them are like they hide it when because it's

426
00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:08.680
<v Speaker 2>usually like pretty old and ratty, even though they've spent

427
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, these pro ams. You might they're spending thousands

428
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 2>of dollars to play in this event and they've got

429
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:15.519
<v Speaker 2>this you know, rolled up glove.

430
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 3>But they can stand up on its own.

431
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Probably yeah, yeah, pretty crusty.

432
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Give you the finger right with one fingers sticking.

433
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Up or holes in it. So everybody's happy to get

434
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 2>a new, fresh glove. But I would estimate that at

435
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 2>least half of them will lead or upwards of that

436
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.119
<v Speaker 2>will leave with a glove in a size that they're

437
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.160
<v Speaker 2>not currently wearing. In a lot of cases, most people

438
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.799
<v Speaker 2>just don't know what cadet sizes are. So that's slightly

439
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:49.039
<v Speaker 2>shorter finger in a wider palm, and most people just

440
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:51.160
<v Speaker 2>know it's not a very good name. It sounds like

441
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>you're in the military, or they say, or it sounds

442
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>like a kid's glove. So the industry needs to come

443
00:25:58.200 --> 00:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>up with a better name for cadet.

444
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Late yet can change that now, but maybe could change mind.

445
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:10.799
<v Speaker 2>And normally it's and I would say one hundred percent

446
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.799
<v Speaker 2>of the time when we're changing their size, they're going

447
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>down at least one size sometimes too, they're never going up.

448
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 2>I've never come across someone who's wearing a glove that's

449
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:24.160
<v Speaker 2>too small. They're always wearing one that's too big, right,

450
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and you want it. The glove should be really tight.

451
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Most people will wear it almost like a regular glove.

452
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.640
<v Speaker 2>You can just see most gloves are just a bit loose.

453
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.440
<v Speaker 2>They're pulling the strap way over. The thing gets so

454
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.599
<v Speaker 2>you get a more wear and tear in that case,

455
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.079
<v Speaker 2>and the glove doesn't last as long and obviously doesn't

456
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Speaker 2>perform as well. So we love doing events where we

457
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 2>do glove fittings because we expose them to you know,

458
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>our gloves come in thirty four sizes when you include

459
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 2>thirty six sizes, when you include our youth gloves, you

460
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:02.680
<v Speaker 2>know talking feet, nail, female, right, left hand, cadet and

461
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>regular that it's a really wide range. And when we

462
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:09.799
<v Speaker 2>lay them out on the table and everybody sees how

463
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 2>many size options they're, they're often blown away because they think,

464
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's probably like eight to ten sizes and

465
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>both so we can really fit up, you know, and

466
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>we go up to you know, double xcel. So often

467
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 2>females are wearing like a men's size because the female

468
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 2>sizes are pretty a pretty small range. Some women wear

469
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.079
<v Speaker 2>a kid's glove, you know, and some guys need to

470
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 2>wear a female glove they've got a smaller hand, and

471
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, we love those events. It's just it's fun

472
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:49.519
<v Speaker 2>to get somebody fit properly. For In a lot of cases,

473
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:51.400
<v Speaker 2>it's the first time they've ever had a glove that

474
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, fits them really well. Makes a big difference,

475
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and you've educated them on something and they, you know,

476
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>modify that moving forward. So we try to do as

477
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>many events as we can fit in the calendar.

478
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 3>And what's the process of getting fitted for a glove.

479
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.160
<v Speaker 2>So often will when they come up they've got a size,

480
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>we get them to put on their glove. We can

481
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>tell right away if the glove they're wearing fits or not.

482
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:21.319
<v Speaker 2>It's usually too big. So they usually start with, you know,

483
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 2>this is the size I wear. We either, you know,

484
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 2>if that glove fits properly, then we'll give them an

485
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>If they're a medium, then we'll give them a medium.

486
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>And often but we'll do a fitting. We'll put the

487
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>medium on. We'll get them, you know, to try that

488
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 2>glove on. We look at the fit and we'll see

489
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.079
<v Speaker 2>if if it's a little bit loose, you know, we

490
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:43.759
<v Speaker 2>might go down to a small. If it's a little

491
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, tight in the palm, we might go to

492
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 2>a cadet medium, which gives them a little bit more

493
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:54.720
<v Speaker 2>space through. We call cadet like a construction hand. It's

494
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of like it's that sort of meaty palm and

495
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 2>shorter fit. And there's you're a cadet.

496
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I am yeah, medium, medium large cadet.

497
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>There you go medium large cadet and.

498
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Talk about specific size.

499
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 2>And I think also as a direct to consumer brand,

500
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>we're finding that a probably a higher percentage of our

501
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 2>customers were cadet because they have a hard time finding

502
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>cadet in pro shops. A lot of pro shops just

503
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:32.319
<v Speaker 2>carry regular gloves. Red Rooster carries the widest range of

504
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>sizes of any brand, including Titleist. Titleist doesn't carry right

505
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>hand cadet. They just don't do it because it's a

506
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>relatively small market and they are not worth it for them.

507
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>And those customers are our customers because we offer it

508
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and they can't find it other places. So I think

509
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>we tend to skew also with lefties, you know, they

510
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>have a hard time finding gloves we offer, you know.

511
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 3>And clubs and clubs.

512
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we go kind of like deep on the

513
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 2>on the sizes and kind of build those relationships. So

514
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I do think we're kind of probably if you look

515
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 2>at our customer data, it's probably not industry data. We're

516
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 2>just finding maybe those we serve the obscure sizes that

517
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 2>are maybe hard to find.

518
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the advantages of direct to consumer.

519
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so one to one.

520
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Communication as opposed to you know, surveys to middlemen whatnot.

521
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

522
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>What about women who have long nails and they have

523
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, like they're really concerned about the quality of

524
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 3>the life of their nails and the look and stuff.

525
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Does that change the size of the glove if they

526
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 3>have the longer nails.

527
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what they'll often do is we'll see the those

528
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 2>are now that the women's gloves do have longer fingers

529
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>relative to the men's glove simply because like that is,

530
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>women have kind of longer, thinner fingers, and so those

531
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 2>gloves are kind of fitted to that. Anyway, they are

532
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>slightly longer, not for the purpose of the nails, and

533
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>certainly like some nails just can't be accommodated. I hear

534
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 2>some women they actually cut the top and of the

535
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 2>fingers so that the if you have very long nails,

536
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 2>so that they can go through. In other cases, the

537
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.319
<v Speaker 2>gloves are sort of allow for that little extra room

538
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 2>so that the nails fit in there. We have a

539
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of female customers and we've rolled

540
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 2>out I think I showed you these rainbow of colors.

541
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>We've got, you know, a beautiful lavender, you know, sort

542
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 2>of purple glove, and this pink glove here a soft pink,

543
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 2>and this yellow canary color and this really nice soft

544
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 2>green emerald color. So we've we've also tried to not

545
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:03.759
<v Speaker 2>only offer enough sizes and for women, but also like

546
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>styles that appeal to them. So these gloves that I

547
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 2>showed you, they were offered to female only. We would

548
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>often make a glove and it's realistically more styled for

549
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 2>men offered in women's sizes. And now we're featuring more

550
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 2>styles that cater to the female audience, fit their personal

551
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, style tastes, match outfits. Just trying to be

552
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 2>flexible to meet that market. That's one of the biggest

553
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 2>growing markets right now for new golfers is female golfers.

554
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Especially with lots of colors women buy like just the

555
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 3>rainbow of colors all at once, just depending on the

556
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:42.240
<v Speaker 3>outfit that they have.

557
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's right. We would see like all four

558
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>of those gloves.

559
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Even if I did that from my various styles of

560
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.640
<v Speaker 3>clothes or colors of clothes. Nobody would notice. But the women,

561
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.400
<v Speaker 3>they're like, wait a minute, didn't you wear that colored

562
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 3>glove last time we played together?

563
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 2>That's right? The details.

564
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let's talk about the product line because you know,

565
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 3>again when we first started, you had a couple of gloves,

566
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 3>and you have really gone way beyond that. Now again,

567
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 3>the Red Rooster brand is so strong and it looks

568
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 3>so good that you know, you've just found other places

569
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 3>to put your logo on it and it's not just

570
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 3>gloves and hats.

571
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right. So the first products who did it

572
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>was the gloves, and we offered it an accessory, the

573
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>glove compartment, and we're coming up because.

574
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 3>They're the original one. Yeah.

575
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And so this is the second version of this

576
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 2>is going to be like a two point zero. We've

577
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>made this is it's waterproof. We've improved the velcro here,

578
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 2>we've improved the zipper. It's a more rugged, easy to

579
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 2>open zipper. It has the inside has a closed pocket.

580
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Now it used to be open, so now you can

581
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 2>put your phone in there, you can put some of

582
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 2>your accessories, ball markers, et cetera. And then we have

583
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the dividers so you can put you know, three or

584
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>four gloves, keep them separate so they don't you know,

585
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 2>stick together.

586
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 3>Thick. Does that make that thicker?

587
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>It is, it's slight. It is slightly thicker, yeah, so

588
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 2>it can carry a little bit more. That's kind of

589
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:38.280
<v Speaker 2>like the upgrade on that product. I'd mentioned the what

590
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 2>we call the cockpit, which is the higher end version,

591
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the leather version for those that want to keep the

592
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 2>gloves kind of safely either in their their locker or

593
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 2>inside their their bag. We've come up with you know

594
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>that we had launched in the last two months alone,

595
00:34:56.119 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>last sixty days, we launched eleven different you know glove styles,

596
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.679
<v Speaker 2>everything from our Canada a glove flag gloves to the

597
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 2>we called the Liberty for Fourth of July, or our

598
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:15.199
<v Speaker 2>US flag or we got the Scottish glove to celebrate

599
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Royal true and the British Open.

600
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 3>So I love that it's a that you have it

601
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 3>as a wide glove, but you have the thumb colored, Yeah,

602
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 3>to match the velcrow flat. That's pretty cool.

603
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's been really just how we're just kind of

604
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 2>trying to have some fun with some of the styles.

605
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Some of them are limited edition, and then we're starting

606
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>to come up with like some of these accessories like.

607
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 3>The way this wait before we go there on the

608
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 3>limited edition? Do you number them?

609
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>No?

610
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 3>That I mean, if you want to make them collectible,

611
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 3>is limited edition? You got a number them and be like,

612
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 3>oh I got number twelve.

613
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you can do that for some other accessories,

614
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 2>but gloves don't last too long, so and you're not

615
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>likely to put them in a drawer, want you to

616
00:35:57.960 --> 00:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>use them.

617
00:35:58.320 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>But some of them put them on the wall. You

618
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 3>have them on the wall.

619
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Well that's to celebrate our kickstarter Okay, but yeah, we

620
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>certainly could we could, We could try. We are working

621
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 2>on some limited edition headcovers, leather headcovers that we're working

622
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 2>with our with our partner, and some of those can

623
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>can be fun. We are finding that in some cases,

624
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>like the Scotland glove here called the Saltire, I mean

625
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 2>it we only made a hundred of them, so you know,

626
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>they didn't last the day you know, we sent an

627
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>email out and they were all gone. So sometimes we're

628
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>we're learning that lessons more.

629
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, and what other accessories that let's talk about

630
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<v Speaker 3>your hat line. Do we have a bucket hat yet

631
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 3>or a big brim hat. I've been bugging you for this,

632
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 3>Yes we do.

633
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>We've got we have fourteen new hat styles coming, everything

634
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>from performance hats to visors and bucket hats.

635
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<v Speaker 3>We have good idea.

636
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 2>What's a performance hat just super breatheable so for the

637
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>heat so and and really like holds the dries quickly

638
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 2>and actually really good in the just more of a

639
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:20.159
<v Speaker 2>performance material. We do have some a couple of dad

640
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>hats as well, so the you know, traditional kind of

641
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>like cotton hats, we're trying to have a and they're

642
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the lower profile. The performance hats are made of the

643
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, dry wicking material and have some breathe ability,

644
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>some holes in them. And then we've got you know,

645
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Speaker 2>four styles of two different styles and and two different

646
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>colors of visors, and then two different styles and two

647
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>different colors of bucket hats. So we really want to

648
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>have that wide range of of hats. We've got you

649
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of customers who that's great real estate too,

650
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, marketing wise, if you can get

651
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:03.079
<v Speaker 2>customers who love our gloves that's not near as visible

652
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.880
<v Speaker 2>as say a head cover, of course, which we've been

653
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>in the head covers for a while. That's probably the

654
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 2>best real estate on a bag. If you can get

655
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 2>a red rooster head cover on one of your customers,

656
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that's highly visible. And of course you can't beat a hat,

657
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, so uh and then you know, I'm a

658
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm a guy where you know, sun's sleeves, and obviously,

659
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>as a redhead, I'm pretty sensitive to have always worn

660
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 2>bucket hats. So we wanted to produce some of our

661
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 2>own and I'm really I'm really happy with the with

662
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 2>what we've come out with, and as soon as they're ready,

663
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to send you some some pictures of the

664
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<v Speaker 2>pre production samples and you can you can choose your

665
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 2>bucket hat. Fred. I know you're a proponent.

666
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:48.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm big proponent of big brim hats too, because I

667
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 3>think that I still think that the PGA should make

668
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.320
<v Speaker 3>it that baseball caps are just they don't do anything

669
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 3>other than protect you, you know, your eyes from the sun,

670
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 3>but the side of your head and your back of

671
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>your neck, you're exposed and it's just not healthy.

672
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>You see you always see you see a lot of

673
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:14.519
<v Speaker 2>caddies right now wearing but not players.

674
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Right right, and like too cool? Come on, guys, you're

675
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Speaker 3>playing that club. It may not be a cool club

676
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:24.480
<v Speaker 3>playing it.

677
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:28.000
<v Speaker 2>So I think Joel Damon and even his not a

678
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>wide brim really.

679
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 3>But no, it's bigger than most. I like his hats.

680
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I would love to. I've always wanted to, you know,

681
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 3>and then Full Swing came out, but I want I've

682
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 3>been trying to get in touch with him for a

683
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 3>long time to talk to him about why because he's

684
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 3>a cancer survivor. But his feelings about getting other players

685
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 3>to wear the larger is so.

686
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.800
<v Speaker 2>What guys, Yeah, that would be interesting.

687
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 3>You know. I mean, like, if you're a golfer, you're

688
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 3>supposed to drop your ego anyway, So let's do this.

689
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.639
<v Speaker 3>Are are you still looping for your partner Brad.

690
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's he's not playing much these days, and uh,

691
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>but I I love to caddy for him because I

692
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:17.480
<v Speaker 2>just love to see that kind of game up close,

693
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 2>and I love to to see how he I don't

694
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 2>want to say picks a part of golf course. He's

695
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 2>actually ultra conservative. So it I learn a lot just

696
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:29.239
<v Speaker 2>in seeing.

697
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 3>How conservative play very and you see.

698
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 2>That's what it is. He's very you know, when we

699
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.079
<v Speaker 2>would you know, in a practice round, he's choosing lines

700
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:48.840
<v Speaker 2>off the tee. He's he's looking for the biggest landing area.

701
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Now maybe that requires flying a you know, a bunker,

702
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:57.840
<v Speaker 2>but often it means, you know, playing conservative, maybe it's

703
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>a threewood or an iron off the tee. Then he's

704
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 2>looking for the middle of the green. And so as

705
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:07.920
<v Speaker 2>we chart stuff, I'm often surprised at sort of how

706
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:11.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, the better rounds come from playing the most conservative.

707
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 2>You kind of let the birdies come to you. You

708
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 2>try to you avoid the bogies, and you know, par

709
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 2>is always a good score on any hole, and it's

710
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>funny when you play that way and you sort of

711
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:26.840
<v Speaker 2>lay back the you know, the birdies do tend to

712
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Speaker 2>come to you, and when you're pushing for them, that's

713
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 2>when the bogies show up. So yeah, I love looping

714
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>for Brad and I'm always trying to get him out

715
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:41.199
<v Speaker 2>to play more tournaments, kind of selfishly so so I

716
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>can get on the bag and just so I can

717
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>get him playing more. He still plays just I love

718
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>playing golf with him period because it's he's just on

719
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 2>another level.

720
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. When I was up at the Lab Golf

721
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Factory and got a chance to play with Sam and

722
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 3>his tour development director Liam Bedford, these guys have a

723
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 3>completely different game. I mean it was it was really

724
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 3>fun to watch their swing and to watch the ball

725
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 3>flight and their intention. It was amazing. And I learned

726
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 3>a fascinating stat when I was playing with them that

727
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.519
<v Speaker 3>there was an experiment done by I don't know if

728
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 3>it was a chorus or a group or whatever it was,

729
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:29.280
<v Speaker 3>but they they had golfers play without a flag on

730
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 3>the green. Oh, and statistically they hit more greens because

731
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.719
<v Speaker 3>everyone was just trying to go for the center of

732
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 3>the green sure, instead of flag hunting. So without flags,

733
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:49.159
<v Speaker 3>there was better results on greens and regulation. I thought

734
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:54.719
<v Speaker 3>that was absolutely exciting and interesting and something to keep

735
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 3>in mind. Just go for the center of the green,

736
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:57.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, It's.

737
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Like it's hard to do sometimes, especially when you have

738
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 2>like a wedge in your hand or you but.

739
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:05.360
<v Speaker 3>It flags up front.

740
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure, Statistically, you're right, that's how you play your best golf.

741
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well, I want to I want to thank

742
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 3>the audience for for hanging tight on this interview because

743
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it sounded like an infomercial for Red Rooster Golf,

744
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 3>and maybe it was, but it's only because I I'm

745
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:32.000
<v Speaker 3>excited about your product, I'm excited about your company, and

746
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:36.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm always fascinated to learn more about the guys who

747
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 3>on a Kickstarter campaign come on that can actually turn

748
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 3>their company into a success and grow with it and

749
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 3>grow with demand. So it is just an honor to

750
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>have you guys as part of our our family and

751
00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 3>watching you grow. Congratulations man, Yeah, thanks Fred.

752
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 2>It's fun. You know, when we started, we had some

753
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.840
<v Speaker 2>i think conservative expectations and we've met them, but we've

754
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it along the way. Brad and I, you know,

755
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 2>we grew up playing junior golf together, so it's been

756
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:18.199
<v Speaker 2>a great way to you know, rekindle our friendship and

757
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.039
<v Speaker 2>get involved in the game that we love so much,

758
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know, with our give back programs. So it's

759
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>it's something that we really enjoy. And I want to

760
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.639
<v Speaker 2>share one other thing with your audience where we're working on.

761
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 2>It's a contest that's going to come out later this fall.

762
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It's it's our Golden Glove twenty twenty four's it's called

763
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 2>our Golden Glove Contest, and it's a way to kind

764
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of like a reward some of our customers, but it's

765
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:51.000
<v Speaker 2>also to sort of educate consumers on the breadth of sizes.

766
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 2>So our adult gloves come in twenty eight sizes, and

767
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.960
<v Speaker 2>we have one glove, a Golden Glove, in each one

768
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of those sizes, and it's like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,

769
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.320
<v Speaker 2>those are going to be seeded into orders over a

770
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:09.880
<v Speaker 2>couple of months, and when though that Golden Glove shows

771
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 2>up in your order, that customer will automatically win a

772
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars shopping spree on redroostergolf dot com and

773
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>then they're entered in a draw for a trip for

774
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:25.800
<v Speaker 2>two to stream Song. So that trip will be in January,

775
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:28.320
<v Speaker 2>it looks like probably just before the PGA show. So

776
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to kind of share that with you. It's

777
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.360
<v Speaker 2>something that we're having a little bit of fun with.

778
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 2>When we saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and their

779
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of remake, we came up with this idea and

780
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 2>it was a way to kind of celebrate our customers

781
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and educate them on the different sizing and just kind

782
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>of have some fun.

783
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Ah, that is brilliant. I love that idea totally. The

784
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.079
<v Speaker 3>chocolate factory, the Golden Glove. Yeah, that is great, all right,

785
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 3>so look for that for the fall of twenty twenty four. Kerrie.

786
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Great to talk to you again, man.

787
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Congratulations, Thanks fredppreciate it.

788
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Well. It's been almost a month since we recorded last

789
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.639
<v Speaker 3>week's episode with Sam Han and I've not touched my

790
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.119
<v Speaker 3>club since because of summer travel. But I'm headed back

791
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 3>out to the course this week and could not be

792
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 3>more excited to get out there again, especially to keep

793
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 3>improving with my new lab broomstick putter. But also I'm

794
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 3>going to start testing out an electric caddy from MGI.

795
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm going to use it for the next month.

796
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, I always walk the golf course and I

797
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:37.599
<v Speaker 3>have a three wheel push cart, and it's pretty hilly

798
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 3>here in northern California, so sometimes my back gets tested

799
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:44.519
<v Speaker 3>pushing the cart up and down the hills. So testing

800
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.039
<v Speaker 3>out an electric caddy is something I've wanted to do

801
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:49.239
<v Speaker 3>for a long time. They've reached out to me. They

802
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.239
<v Speaker 3>sent me one to try out. And I'll use it

803
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 3>for the next month, and then we're going to have

804
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 3>a conversation with their VP of US Sales about the product,

805
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:02.320
<v Speaker 3>the benefits of walking, and the latest statistics on how

806
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 3>so many golfers are walking now more than ever. And

807
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 3>if you have any questions about these electric caddies that

808
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 3>you'd like me to ask their VP, then please write

809
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:14.840
<v Speaker 3>to me and let me know what you want to

810
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 3>hear and I'll make sure that gets discussed now. This

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00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.360
<v Speaker 3>week's Golf Smarter Ambassador Jeff Crampton, who lives and plays

812
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 3>in Alberta, Canada. He mentioned that he also plays at

813
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 3>TPC Donzonte Bay in Loretto, Mexico, located on the east

814
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 3>coast of Baja California. I'll leave a link in today's

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<v Speaker 3>show notes of a video I created about one of

816
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.480
<v Speaker 3>the most beautiful holes I've ever played, and that's number

817
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 3>seventeen at TPC Donezonte Bay, which is the only TPC

818
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.440
<v Speaker 3>course in Mexico. And when you come up over the

819
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 3>hilltop to get the view of this par three that

820
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.880
<v Speaker 3>is looking out to the Sea of Cortes onto a

821
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 3>green that is elevated about one hundred fifty feet above

822
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 3>the wh It's breathtaking, and I'll make sure so you

823
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 3>go to Golfsmarter dot com and click on today's show

824
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and you'll see the video. Or I'll just leave a

825
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.079
<v Speaker 3>link in the show notes. It's a short video and

826
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 3>you can see it. It's again, it's mind blowing. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that golf course and hoping to get there

828
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 3>again before the end of this year. Jeff wanted to

829
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 3>see Tony Manzoni's video of the Lost Fundamental, and he

830
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 3>got it for free just by sharing with us where

831
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<v Speaker 3>he plays, where he lives, and which episode number this is. Now,

832
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 3>now that we talk to Carrie about the Great Gloves

833
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.320
<v Speaker 3>and the multitude of choices they offer a Redrooster Golf,

834
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<v Speaker 3>I want to remind you that when you sign up

835
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<v Speaker 3>to be a golf Smarter Ambassador, you get a choice

836
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<v Speaker 3>of three free gifts, and one of those choices, along

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<v Speaker 3>with Tony Manzoni's Lost Fundamental video, is a glove and

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<v Speaker 3>glove storage compartment or cockpit from Red Rooster Golf. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't think of how I could make it any easier

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<v Speaker 3>for you to become one of our ambassadors. All you

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<v Speaker 3>need to do is introduce a future episode just write

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<v Speaker 3>to Golf Smarter Podcast at gmail dot com and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get back to you because you know, I just can't

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<v Speaker 3>give the instructions here because I give specific instructions on

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<v Speaker 3>which episode it's going to be. So I'll get back

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<v Speaker 3>to you after you write to me with some simple

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<v Speaker 3>instructions on how to call in record and I'll even

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<v Speaker 3>give you a script of exactly what to say if

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<v Speaker 3>you have any questions, comments, or suggestions for upcoming episodes,

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<v Speaker 3>like the suggestion that I got this week for getting

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Mangum of the Putting Zone back on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't talked to Jeff since twenty seventeen, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>already written to him and he has already said, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do it. So stay tuned. We'll have Jeff Mangum to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about putting again, and that's always an adventure with Jeff. Anyway.

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