WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.039 Hey, everybody, it's Tuesday. 2 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:29.679 That's right, you're getting the Sad Bastard cover of Jen's 3 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:34.039 introduction to the Giant BombCast. How the hell are you doing? 4 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.000 It's a lovely day, isn't it? On this Tuesday? July 5 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:42.240 twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. My name is Jeff Beckler, 6 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:46.640 filling in for Jano Choa, Dan Reiker, Mike Manati Bowl 7 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:50.600 all three of our friends out on assignment, but we 8 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.799 have filled in their seats with butts that we greatly 9 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:59.200 and deeply admire. Isn't that right? Jason Finelli today? 10 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:01.920 How we doing? Everybody? Yes, I am very excited to 11 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:04.200 be here. I'm glad that the nine hundred episode grace 12 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:08.200 period has ended. I made it through and now I 13 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:10.760 am able to hang out on the BombCast and talk 14 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:13.480 about cool stuff. And I very much appreciate y'all inviting 15 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:14.200 me for the ride. 16 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:18.319 Of course, that's how it works. Nine hundred episodes we 17 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:22.760 can that unlocks the freaks. We've we've hit that milestone 18 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.680 and we're happy to do it. The second freak on 19 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:28.519 the program today, Tarbo Sean, how's it going, Bud? 20 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:31.840 Yes, nine hundred episodes is what took for Turbo Shan's 21 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:34.280 return to happen. So thank you for having me back. 22 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.560 I'm glad to be here. I am also going to 23 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:39.319 be out the rest of the week, so good luck 24 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:40.439 with that editing and stuff. 25 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:41.640 Man, you can't need it. 26 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.519 Yes, is there an editor in the house you're asking? 27 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:51.680 Generally speaking? Co captain of the ship, mister Jeffrey Michael 28 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:53.159 Grub How you doing, Bud? 29 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:55.680 Pretty good, jeff and you had the nine hundred episode 30 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:58.840 probationary period is up. I think I think we're gonna last. 31 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:01.680 That's going for I think it's gonna work out just 32 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:02.280 fine for us. 33 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.879 There's some sort of statute of limitations we also have 34 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:07.400 to read the documentation on and like what that also 35 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.120 allows us to do moving forward. It's a very exciting 36 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:14.280 time here at Giant Bomb. That's right, What are you 37 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:17.919 doing not going to GiantBomb dot com slash join supporting 38 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:21.479 the business, supporting the programs, supporting the content you want 39 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.400 to see. Please head over there. We also have a 40 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:26.960 merch store, brand new merch store. If you've never heard 41 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.280 about it. It's not new at all. Actually, it's been 42 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.599 there for a very long time. It stored at GiantBomb 43 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:33.000 dot com. Go check out all the merch and all 44 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:34.800 the stuff that's there at the moment. 45 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:40.439 There's good somebody, No, we were all just agreeing with 46 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:44.199 your assessment of the merch store. I didn't realize I 47 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.719 ended up getting two pairs of the joggers, and I 48 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:48.719 don't regret it now. I'm just gonna throw those in 49 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:51.199 on rotation. Very happy with that. You do need to 50 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.840 rotate your joggers, folks. They're like tires. You have to 51 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:59.199 keep them. Even my admirable ass wears them out. Yeah, 52 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.639 you gotta be careful or so the tread on the 53 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:04.240 butt pads will get worn down. You can't have that 54 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:05.439 does not handle the grub butt. 55 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:10.240 Well yeah, yeah. My dad has a similar philosophy with clothing. 56 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.719 He he just won't wear it. Like he'll buy a 57 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:15.639 new thing and it'll be like, what. 58 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:18.680 Am I gonna do? Wear this and have it wear out? 59 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:20.240 I'm not joking. 60 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.879 That is a song, but that's it. You know. I 61 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:26.560 remember growing up going into his bedroom and being like, 62 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:28.680 oh man, a lot of your clothes still have tags 63 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.680 on him? What's that about? He's like, what am I 64 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:32.960 going to wear this clothes? I'm like, I guess. 65 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.639 I suppose I suppose you're not. I don't know why. No, 66 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.000 I have the young newer version of that. 67 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:44.120 Grub can relate where my very pretty shirts from the 68 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.560 Yetti I don't want them to like because they only 69 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:47.759 last so long because. 70 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:52.199 You're shirts from the Yetti. What does that mean? 71 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:59.080 Yeah, we have our guess where we I did. 72 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:00.800 I don't know what happened was sewn, but me I 73 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:02.680 hit my mid life crisis. There was a time in 74 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.560 my life I would never wear video game shirts, and 75 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.159 then I was like, I'm gonna die one day. I 76 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.360 like video games. Someone put them on my shirts. I 77 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:12.719 don't care anymore. It And so Yetti is one of 78 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.039 these T shirt vendors that always has like one for 79 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.959 like a day or two, and you got to get 80 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.120 in there and get them. And they're relatively affordable. They're 81 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:21.040 like eighteen. 82 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:22.680 Dollars, but you get what you pay for. 83 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:24.759 It's like a Threadless kind of situation. 84 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:25.680 Definitely. 85 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.360 Yeah, well it's threadless the ones that like a print 86 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.879 on demand, like you could do it yourself or not. 87 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.680 I think the way the way Threadless used to do 88 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:36.920 it was like they would I think they I don't 89 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:39.759 know if they bought designs from artists and then like 90 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.959 featured them for some sort of time. Yeah. Yeah, and 91 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:44.639 it's like Dreadless, Yes, yeah. 92 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:47.639 The same same thing. Ripped Apperil does a similar thing 93 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:49.920 as well, where they just have like a daily featured artist. 94 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:52.680 But I see I have the exact opposite. My dad 95 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:54.759 still wears T shirts that I gave him after I 96 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:59.120 was done working for gaming retail in two thousand and nine, 97 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.839 so I and my mom has to bake him get 98 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:04.120 more shirts. He's like, no, they're perfectly good shirts. What's 99 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:07.959 the matter with you? Everything's Fine's I cannot relate to 100 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:11.240 the leave tags on clothes. That's just not how I 101 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:14.439 was grown, I was raised. It just doesn't translate. 102 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.199 The old Fort shirt I wore yesterday I got from 103 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:25.839 a thrift shop in the year two thousand. Wait, I 104 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.839 thought that, I thought. 105 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:30.240 I thought. 106 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.240 I also said old part when I bought it. People 107 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:36.600 old old Fort, old Fort, but old. It's my old 108 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:38.639 fart shirt. It definitely is my old fart shp because 109 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.800 that's the kind of hanging a cursive line thing going on. 110 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:50.439 Got a real loose loose as on that old Fort design. 111 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:52.680 I did see someone in Chad saying, why the hell 112 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:55.360 is grub baring your shirt that says old thought on it, Like. 113 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.600 Yeah, I said, old, that's just kids not being able 114 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.920 to recursive though, Sean, that's that was Curtis. 115 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:07.000 I mean, like what even when we were in elementary, 116 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.879 I remember being like this, sh ain't gonna. 117 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:12.720 Accusing the youth of not keeping up or something. Don't 118 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:14.399 know a cursive that's a waste of time? 119 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:16.360 What an incredible waste of time? 120 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.839 Yeah, that is. I couldn't tell you the last time 121 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:22.800 I wrote cursive and I learned that first through or 122 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:24.079 fourth through sixth grade. 123 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.920 And we school so much time spent on learning Curtis, 124 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:29.920 so much time think of it's so much. 125 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.000 It's so much shame for not being able to use it, 126 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:36.120 like going to your awards ceremony and having that penmanship 127 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.600 award where that person could just walk around being like, yes, 128 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:40.319 I wasted the most time. 129 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:46.800 And I'm sorry if your only response to why learning 130 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.920 cursive is that, how are you going to sign your name? 131 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:54.759 List put your ear close to the speaker's fuck you? 132 00:06:55.439 --> 00:07:01.040 Okay you that's dumb as hell? Who came all right? 133 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:01.519 Yeah? 134 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:05.279 Like you, I can't. You didn't sign your name, Therefore 135 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.279 it is not a blinding tet. You can throw a 136 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.839 picture there, it doesn't matter. Ninety nine percent of ship 137 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.480 is signed with a freaking clickie button on a docu 138 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.560 sign these days, anyway, who gives a ship? 139 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.240 Yeah? I type my name and it made cursive for 140 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:20.439 me on a document just yesterday, and I was like, 141 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:21.079 I pay a. 142 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:25.120 Computer to write in curson for me. Now, can we 143 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:26.639 go back to the T shirt thing for a second. 144 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:28.120 If you guys had, if you guys had to. 145 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:30.680 Run your own T shirt brand, like, what would be 146 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.519 like the general vibe or sort of the theme of 147 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:35.360 Because I was thinking the other day, I would love 148 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:36.839 to have the time to start a T shirt brand 149 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:40.160 that just takes dead trademarks from companies that don't exist 150 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:41.800 anymore and sell that shit. 151 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:46.279 Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Oh, give it away the good ideas, 152 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:46.759 all right. 153 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.680 No mandemark trade shit. 154 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:54.639 Yeah, I'm pretty sure Bubble also dabbles in currently. 155 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:00.319 I think I got a virtual boy shirt from Red 156 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:04.879 Bubble once. Yeah, I'm interested in keeping that trademark, but 157 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:06.000 also they. 158 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.240 Are I'm a basic bitch, right. You know what my 159 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:12.680 T shirt company would be like? It would be like 160 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:14.519 a satanic pinball skull. 161 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:18.639 You know, I do like that a lot. 162 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:19.519 Uh. 163 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.399 I think I would make like I like the logos 164 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.800 where it's like an actual company logo, but it says 165 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:31.279 something else, like like cola cursive. There it is again, 166 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:33.600 but it says like, you know, street fighter or something 167 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:35.440 like that. 168 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:39.960 Classic the classic picture of of like the cast of 169 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.440 Seinfeld and it just says Nirvana underneath. 170 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:47.480 Stupid. Like my favorite one is it's Garfield, right, the 171 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:50.200 Garfield and Friends logo, but it's just Neon Genesis even Jelly, 172 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:52.320 and it makes me laugh every single time. Just dumb 173 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.159 ship like that. I would make T shirts that I 174 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:56.480 hope would make people laugh. That's that would be what 175 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:57.120 I would want to do. 176 00:08:57.159 --> 00:08:58.519 There was a there was a guy at packs that 177 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:02.399 sold just a bunch of different Pokemon T shirts, but 178 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.720 all the Pokemon were like rebranded as something also so 179 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:11.000 but doof is that one of them Sean was doo 180 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:15.480 Fees like BUCkies, so the BUCkies and. 181 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.080 Yeah, one of my favorite is was it's a blast Oise, 182 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:25.440 but it's baja blast Ois. I keep making like one 183 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.720 of those shirts, but then like keep getting taken down 184 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:29.360 for who knows what reason. 185 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:32.000 But then some people take it too far. I was 186 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.879 at a local convention too many games here in Oaks, Pennsylvania, 187 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.679 and they had Poor Kirby and it said hawk to it, 188 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.840 and I'm like, no, that. 189 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:42.960 Well, he doesn't spin on that thing. He sucks up 190 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:48.200 that thing, spits it out when he's done. 191 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:49.480 Yeah, that's true. 192 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:52.120 It's all part of it just piss me off from 193 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.039 the from the point of view of like you gotta 194 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:58.480 do you got to put in more effort, Like yeah, yeah, 195 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:01.759 the level of effort there is really depressing. I fuck 196 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:08.399 that put these people in jail maybe, you know, maybe. 197 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:10.240 So? 198 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:12.559 Uh? Is there anything else we have to discussed before 199 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:16.399 we get into the next thing? I I've just seen 200 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:18.080 Happy Gilmore Too is awesome. 201 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.279 I want to watch it for good things. But is 202 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:21.919 it one of those things where like people had such 203 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:25.000 low expectations and now they're setting my expectations higher and 204 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:26.159 now I'm going to be disappointed. 205 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.519 My spoiler free review is just like I thought it 206 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:32.360 was better than it had any right to be. 207 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:35.559 That's the bar was low. Let's just say the bar 208 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:37.840 was certainly low. Uh. 209 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:40.600 And I, you know, watched it with the family and 210 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.279 we had a we had a mostly good time with it. 211 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:45.960 How much Shooter mcgabbin is in the movie because I'm 212 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.639 realizing as I get older, Shooter mcgabbin is maybe one 213 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.440 of my favorite characters of all time. He is so 214 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.039 funny in every scene he's in in the regard so yeah. 215 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:56.080 So with again, without spoiling, there is a line and 216 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.279 it's it's there. There's a line that he says that 217 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:02.080 I don't think it's enough credit it up and I 218 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.320 mean now that they made it part of the script 219 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.879 in this movie, that it will. But he does say 220 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:09.480 something to in the first movie that they go back 221 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.759 to here that I thought was like, very clever to 222 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:14.879 answer your to answer your question. There's there's a good 223 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:18.279 amount of him. I don't think you know, yeah, you 224 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.720 get as much Shooter as you want. I think, all right, fantastic. 225 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.320 What the hell is like the overall plot of Happy. 226 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.240 I don't want to, I don't wanna and he plays golf. 227 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.320 Let's let's just without getting into because I saw it too, 228 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.519 so without getting into too many spoilers, basically, think of 229 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.240 a recent story involving the p g A and a 230 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:48.519 Upstartia sort of in that vein another league comes up, 231 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:51.960 only this one where you hate you don't want to 232 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:53.799 like that league because of Saudi Arabia. You don't want 233 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:56.360 to hate you want to hate this league because everyone 234 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.399 there sucks. But it's it's that is the story, Like 235 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.840 something comes up he has asked to there's a major 236 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.919 plot point. Sure that I do not I'm not gonna say, 237 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:11.279 because it kind of fuels his return. 238 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.279 It's more than I was expecting. 239 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.320 It's yeah, you know, it's there. It's it's fine, It's fine. 240 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:21.559 I'm surprised it's fine. 241 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:23.080 I'm actually saying. I mean, I know he's got like 242 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:25.399 a huge deal with Netflix, which explains why he didn't 243 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:28.000 do the futers and whatnot. But this definitely felt like 244 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.639 something that was probably on that path. But yeah, I mean, 245 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.039 like I think it was. It was fine. I do 246 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:34.759 like that. A lot of it is like New Jersey 247 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:37.679 stuff too, which is cool. There's like some cool local 248 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:42.559 hockey Jersey Easter eggs, which I thought was dope. I 249 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:47.080 also think people do not know what the word cameo means. 250 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.960 I think this has been the movie where people are like, 251 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.639 did you see did you see all the cameos? Like, 252 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:55.960 guess this movie is like overridden with cameos. But Benny 253 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.399 Safty being in the movie. Is not a cameo character 254 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:01.240 in the movie. 255 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.720 He's the villain. 256 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.320 He's in the movie. He's an actor in the movie. 257 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:10.600 That's not a cat. I didn't realize Benny Safty was 258 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:12.039 like that much a part of the movie. 259 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:12.639 I only just. 260 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:14.440 Yesterday I saw him in an interview for this movie. Like, 261 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.639 fucking Benny Safti's in this, all right, must be it 262 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.720 must be a cameo and then all right, cool. I 263 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:21.799 love Bennie Safty. I just can't get enough of that guy. 264 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:25.440 Yeah, he's very I like him. I like him in 265 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.279 his role Alive does. 266 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:32.559 He just plays characters from Oppenheimer again, just that honestly, 267 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:36.639 it's more the character from the Curse. Okay, it's it's. 268 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:38.279 More like coded that way for sure. 269 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.159 Uh So I watched I watched the movie with my 270 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.000 wife and and I think the one thing that she 271 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.639 took away from it is how much love he shows 272 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.039 Adam Sandler does to all of his people around. Now, 273 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.720 he does take that. He does take that too far 274 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:54.679 with a certain member of his crew, who I want. 275 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.320 But here he was barely the right. 276 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.279 But like, yeah, he's. 277 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:07.159 No, no, no, no, no, no, much much worse. But like 278 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:10.480 he includes his wife and daughters. He includes like people 279 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.399 John Lovets I'll spoil one for you makes a cameo, 280 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:17.440 and I love the critic. The critic is one of 281 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:19.759 my favorite, like guilty Pleasure cartoons of all times. And 282 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.720 see him in there was really cool. A bunch of 283 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.000 other faces that show up. Some I had to look up, 284 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.039 like some I didn't realize who they were until after 285 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.600 the fact that I was like, oh, that was that person. 286 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:30.840 That was kind of cool too, right, So filling in 287 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.840 some current pop culture blanks while also bringing in the 288 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:35.039 old guard pretty cool stuff. 289 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.559 I don't know what people are expecting out of this movie, 290 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:40.879 Like I played hockey and like the guys in the 291 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.320 locker room were like, this movie sucked, and I'm just like, 292 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:44.679 what were you expecting? 293 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:50.240 Like I'm expecting Gilmour Too and all of these sequels to, like, 294 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:53.480 you know, the legacy equels to old comedies are always 295 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.519 complete and utter trash. They are like unwatchable trash a 296 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.840 lot of times, like Joe Dirt Too is actually legitimately 297 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:02.600 maybe one of the better, one of the better, one 298 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:06.200 of those and it sucks. So yeah, well the only 299 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.639 time this I mean, look, I think the most. 300 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.559 The most guilty example of this is Anchorman two. I 301 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:18.279 think Anchorman too, like really ship and died in litigation? 302 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:24.200 I really like you know what, like like maybe put 303 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.759 on some weird taboo embargo list, Like seriously. 304 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:32.519 Your very legal system today, dreff. You want to people. 305 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:40.399 That I'm probably sixty percent of the way to being 306 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:45.159 a lawyer on a good day, could pass the bar exam? Yeah, 307 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.360 I mean probably not at all, but also. 308 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.120 Maybe better than which state though? 309 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:53.159 Which states? New Jersey? 310 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:58.159 Baby, come on, I'm doing practicing New Jersey law and 311 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:01.399 golf law and hockey and Bill and Ted was okay, Yeah, 312 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:05.440 that's a good point. There was nothing wrong with that. Yeah, 313 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.200 And the hern Kumar movies got better. That was a 314 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.080 little bit different. So that was like a sequence of 315 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:11.200 films that wasn't like going back to the Well or 316 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:15.720 anything like that necessarily, right, Yeah, all right, with that 317 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:27.120 behind us, folks, let's get in some video games. Video games. Man, 318 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.480 Now that I'm like, I'm. 319 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:32.120 Doodling in my notebook putting Esquire after my name, and 320 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:34.039 it kind of rules not gonna lie. 321 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.679 Ye es squire not that's got a ring to it. 322 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:42.480 It does have a ring to it. Uh, man, I've 323 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:44.440 been I've not been playing the game that a lot 324 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:46.840 of people have been playing because my son has been 325 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:52.440 playing it. That's right, the Donkey Kong Bonanza. Yeah, Danelly, 326 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.360 you have exploded in public about this game. 327 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:02.159 That is a that's one way to put it. Maybe 328 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.599 I'm getting arrested next, not. 329 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:06.319 That there's anything to spoil, but we're not going to 330 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:07.079 be spoiling anything. 331 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:08.119 Yeah, we're. 332 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:10.880 Blue Sky, that's right. 333 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:16.759 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will. 334 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.559 You know this sayer dirty laundry on the podcast. I 335 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:21.440 didn't know what that meant, and then once I figured 336 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.640 out what it meant, I was a little angry at you, Jeff. 337 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:25.559 But if you didn't know what it meant, how is 338 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:26.359 that a spoiler? 339 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:28.960 Because it clicked into place and I was like, oh, 340 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.319 you didn't let me, you didn't let me experience that. 341 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:32.000 Come right. 342 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.599 It did not register to me as a spoiler. I 343 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:37.400 posted one of the pictures, one of the bonanza thing, guys, 344 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.359 and people are like that spoiler. I'm like, Oh, it 345 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.000 just doesn't register to me at all as a spoiler. 346 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:44.119 It's so out of context. 347 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.200 There's nothing it's funny because okay, fair enough, It's like, 348 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:49.119 technically the kind of thing you say you don't like 349 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:50.359 spoil this gameplay stuff. 350 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:51.240 I'm like, but that's not. 351 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.200 But if like, okay, I want to talk about too much, 352 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.200 because if it is what I think it is, I'm like, oh, 353 00:17:58.319 --> 00:17:59.799 I see what that is. 354 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:01.440 There's there's more to. 355 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:02.000 It than you're thinking. 356 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:02.359 That's all. 357 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:04.680 So yeah, yes, yes, okay. 358 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:07.880 So I got I got yelled at too for my 359 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.000 Blue Sky post about the best Bonanza song because I 360 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:14.480 mentioned the number of Bonanza songs, not remembering that the 361 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:19.079 Bananza direct had less bananzas exists. 362 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:21.559 That's an insane thing for someone to be mad about. 363 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:27.960 Yeah, I'm talking about songs here, shut up anyway, Hey, 364 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:30.000 this is not a spoiler. We talked about it before 365 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:31.920 the show. The Zebra Bananza song is just the best 366 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:34.279 one that There's no getting around it. If you have 367 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:36.440 not heard it, if you're not interested in the game, 368 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:39.400 their chat is already singing it. I love it. Go 369 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:41.799 listen to that song, even out of context. It's an 370 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.759 absolute banger. I will warn you though, if you search 371 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.640 for that song on YouTube or anything Bananza on YouTube. 372 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:52.759 The recommended feed has been a very heavy spoiler laden 373 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:57.119 place since that game has come out. Luckily I was 374 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:59.319 able to beat the game before something would have been 375 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.039 spoiled for me. Uh, but yeah, just might be careful 376 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:03.920 of that minefield. 377 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:06.240 Se you're gonna get so annoyed with me too because 378 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:09.359 my kid spoiled me again or ertrold me on this 379 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:12.519 game and I enjoyed it more because of that. And 380 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:14.440 we were like, I know that's how you like that. 381 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:17.440 I didn't not always. I don't always like that. It's 382 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:19.279 just like it's happened a couple of times, and this 383 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.960 that happened, we were like popping off with She's like, 384 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:24.480 I see I told you and I'm like, oh, I 385 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:26.960 didn't believe you. And it's kind of that's that's real. 386 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.000 It's but you know that's the thing though, that's within 387 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.240 the grub ecosystem. Man. That's how you guys like to, 388 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:36.519 you know, share things with each are. That's cool. It's 389 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:39.440 just like what even you pus snake, that's not that 390 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:41.359 bad man, Come on now, like we we both know 391 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:43.519 that's not that bad. But like people going out of 392 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.359 their way or like being the first person on YouTube 393 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:48.759 to have like the thumbnail is just hey, here's what 394 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:50.160 the final it's like. 395 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:53.960 Come on, I hate that speaking of Jail, I hate 396 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:58.680 that ship, but you know, find the line right. I 397 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:02.519 finished it on Sunday night, and then Monday morning when 398 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.079 my kids woke up, I found a YouTube video and 399 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:08.119 I was like, you're watching this right now because it's amazing, 400 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.039 and they were like, oh, okay, because they don't mind that. 401 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:11.559 They don't they don't care about spoilers yet that I 402 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:13.400 don't enough to have opinions on those sorts of things. 403 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.799 So when I showed them that, they're like, whoa. And 404 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:18.680 then now they want to play it even more now 405 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:20.599 that I'm finished. Take can as we talked about again 406 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:23.440 pre show during my playthroom, No, you're not touching it 407 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.680 because checkpoints are brutal in this game, and if you 408 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:27.480 accidentally kill me at a certain point and I go 409 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:29.960 back too far, I'm going to be very upset. But 410 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.839 now that I'm done, they can go crazy. I can't 411 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:36.039 wait for them to figure this stuff out and see 412 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.359 what they can find for themselves. Very very excited. 413 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:42.240 So for me, this game is awesome. Really like this 414 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:44.720 in the game of the year so far. It feels 415 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:47.160 fantastic to play all the stuff we talked about before. 416 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:50.319 I think the criticisms would be and I think this 417 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:52.200 continued from what we talked about last week. The bosses 418 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:55.680 are too easy. They're just they don't they don't feel 419 00:20:55.720 --> 00:21:00.039 like a culmination of anything. It just is, here's a 420 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.000 this theme after this level, and if you know what 421 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:04.359 you're doing, you are you could probably beat this thing 422 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:07.799 in about fifteen seconds. And that's true for I'm going 423 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.960 to say the majority of the bosses, most of them now, Thankfully, 424 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:15.160 the last few bosses get a little bit more challenging 425 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.279 and they that does feel like a culmination in a 426 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:20.240 good way. But I don't think that undes sort of 427 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:23.200 the disappointment. And maybe that's like we're so from soft 428 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.200 pilled at this point that I'm like, bosses should be 429 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.240 important and I should be learning stuff and that should 430 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.279 be challenging, and maybe that's just not right for a 431 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:31.319 platform or I don't know, but I definitely think I 432 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.000 came away a little disappointed from the bosses. 433 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:33.519 Now. 434 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.160 I know what you're saying, though, because this game, first 435 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:40.559 of all, this game is like the most Nintendo game 436 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:44.359 in a while yep. Because it's not necessarily things that 437 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:47.480 they've done in the distant past, but is everything that 438 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:50.039 they down the Switch One all in one place, the 439 00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:53.160 little Odyssey. It's a little breath of a while. Yeah, 440 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.599 it's a lot Splatoon and it's all coming together in 441 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.519 just a It feels like it would have been planned 442 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:02.359 as like a swan song for the Switch, which it 443 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:05.799 technically was planned as before they moved the project over 444 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.000 to Switch too, and now it's like, well, this is 445 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.279 the switch to everything. We down the Switch one, but 446 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:14.079 more of it and better and this is what Nintendo 447 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:18.160 is nowadays. And in those games, I do think that 448 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.640 the bosses are more important, Like in Splatoon, they have 449 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.920 fantastic exactly the different phases and the way it ramps 450 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:30.400 up visually being really interesting. And in here, at least 451 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.640 because I'm early on, I'm taking my time with the game. 452 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:37.200 I'm still only in well, I'm in subble. I just 453 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.799 got to sell level six hundred. So far, every boss 454 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:44.119 has just been here's a health bar, you whack them 455 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:47.039 like ten times, especially if you have cong bonanza and 456 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:51.640 just finish them. You know, Yeah, it's way too easy. 457 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:54.079 It's yeah, way way too easy. And I think you know, 458 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:57.279 there's an upgrade system, so if you are specing in 459 00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:59.680 any sort of way to sort of make yourself more survivable. 460 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:02.880 It's going to trivialize a lot of that stuff very quickly. 461 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.359 I held off on upgrading health into the very end 462 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.640 of the game, just to kind of improve that challenge 463 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:14.400 a little bit. But outside of that, I mean, you're 464 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.319 shown you're right. It is all of those ideas from 465 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:18.160 all these Nintendo games. You can like spot them and 466 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:19.880 be like, oh my god, they took that off the 467 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.240 menu and used it in a really great way. It 468 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:24.640 is totally cohesive. There's nothing that feels out of place. 469 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:27.480 It all serves a larger purpose of establishing like the 470 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.559 central thesis of Donkey Kung Binanza, which is, you know 471 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:32.799 everything can be destroyed and everything can be you know, 472 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:35.240 you can interact with everything and it has knock on 473 00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:39.839 effects and all that stuff really really really works. I 474 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:42.480 think I like the sort of structure of the game 475 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.720 of Hey, we are going to do our best to 476 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.559 encourage you to not play like Sean is and just 477 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:49.319 go after those bananas. We're gonna throw a bunch of 478 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:51.759 bananas down a hole that is on the next level, 479 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.799 and you're gonna be so enticed that you are going 480 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:55.720 to think I should just go get those now. And 481 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:58.200 I'll come back to this level later, and I think 482 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:00.799 that kind of makes this nice and through the game 483 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:03.519 of you're gonna kind of be like, Okay, I'm chasing 484 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:05.920 down these this big bunch of bananas, or I'm chasing 485 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:09.359 down the main objective and I'll find stuff along the way, 486 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:11.440 but I'm going to sort of rush through this game 487 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:13.640 and then come back around and explore it, and things 488 00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:16.640 change at that point, which give you more reasons to explore. 489 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:18.640 So I think they really thought about that as well. 490 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:22.599 And I also just think that the pacing of placing 491 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:26.200 various challenges around the level of here's here's one where 492 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:27.440 you're going to go into a room and it's going 493 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.200 to be a platforming challenge or some other similar kind 494 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.559 of challenge, and it's going to be a little bit 495 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:34.880 more difficult. I don't think they're again, nothing in this 496 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:38.039 game is the most difficult, but I do think it's 497 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:41.079 well paced out, and then you can always make it 498 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:43.599 a little bit more challenging by one hundred percent in it. 499 00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:45.640 And maybe that's not what people want when they are 500 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:47.400 looking for a challenge, but for me, I'm like, no, 501 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:48.920 that's totally how I want it to work. I'm a 502 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:51.920 fine with like, oh, I stumbled into a Banandium gym here, 503 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:53.759 and now I got. 504 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.640 Enough to do whatever, to upgrade or whatever. 505 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.960 And now finding the last five in this in this world, 506 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:02.839 it's actually kind of difficult, and where is this thing? 507 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:04.079 How do I even get this? How do I get 508 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.240 around there? How do I Some of them are difficult 509 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.319 platforming challenges. I could think of one that I was like, Oh, 510 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:08.799 that's clever. 511 00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:11.279 So it just has all of it. It does all 512 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:12.039 of it really well. 513 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.240 But yeah, I'm really really enamored with everything that experienced 514 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.920 this game, and I'm still playing it. Credits happened. I'm 515 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:21.440 one hundred percent of this thing for sure. 516 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.599 Yeah, springboarding off of what you said there, I do 517 00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:27.720 think that it's awesome. We talked about me and you 518 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:29.559 talked about this a lot of the GB plays where 519 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.000 it's very accommodating the fact that you can play it 520 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.640 and just mainline it basically and then come back and 521 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:39.039 do anything you want later. It's it's that's really how 522 00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:42.480 it's designed. I would say, But that freaking sonar man, 523 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.440 the sonar clap, I just can't do it there. The 524 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:47.759 game is telling me hee, But what if you went 525 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:51.799 over here, Yeah, went over here. It's it's great breadcrumbs, 526 00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:54.599 and I love that the game lets you play however 527 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.359 the hell you want. You can go just right down 528 00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:59.039 the main path, or you can do what I'm doing, 529 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.039 and you just do every little thing they see, not 530 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:06.240 necessarily everything everything. I'm not like opening the map and saying, Okay, 531 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.799 I'm missing four bananas. I can't move on to the next. 532 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:09.920 Area at now. 533 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:10.279 Yeah. 534 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.759 Yeah, I'll come back and get those later. That's fine. 535 00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.279 Are you saying you don't want the game to hold 536 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:17.160 your hand, like you don't want it to show you 537 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:18.880 where it goes? You're pushing it? 538 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:20.240 Say that like that? 539 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.359 That like because it the game of the world feels 540 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:26.079 so well designed and it works so well with its 541 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.240 systems of like the sonar, that it can't help but 542 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.039 feel like he's being like the way I was drawn 543 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.480 to the next level by like a bunch of bananas 544 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.359 just went down that hole. He's being drawn in a 545 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.880 different direction because he collapsed and he sees a bunch 546 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:40.960 of flashing things all around that makes him want to 547 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:41.960 go explore in that direction. 548 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:43.200 And it works on both lides. 549 00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.799 Yeah, but the lack of handholding is like it's an 550 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:50.880 option like the game, just it's not explicitly telling you 551 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:53.720 it's not thing you need to go down this path. 552 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.519 It's saying this is the path, here is your next checkpoint. 553 00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:58.160 Go do the thing. It's a very like Breath of 554 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.599 Wild Tears, the Kingdom thing of Hey, this is where 555 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:04.079 your next objective is, go do the thing. But if 556 00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.400 you want to do every little thing that we've hidden 557 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:09.759 along the way, We're not gonna stop you. Pauline's not 558 00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:12.279 gonna stop and say, hey, DK, we really need to 559 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.400 get going and do the next thing. Like no, she's 560 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:16.480 just gonna like comment out, Wow, that was really fun. 561 00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:18.839 I'm thinking to myself, that was fun, Pauline, I am 562 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.079 having a great damn time this playing the video game. 563 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:27.559 You are, Yeah, you're right, yeah exactly. I will say this, though, 564 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:31.240 I found that some layers I wanted to get out 565 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:33.759 of as soon as possible. I just did not find 566 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.160 myself enjoying that particular layer as much. One of them 567 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:46.960 being the landfill, where's mostly digging and you're just basically 568 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.599 you're always confined in those Like I like being able 569 00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:54.119 to explore and punch, like punch through walls and like 570 00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:55.799 dig a tunnel through wall and see what's on the 571 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:58.880 other side. But when it becomes the entire level, and 572 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:01.559 when the camera sometimes I always found I found sometimes 573 00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:03.720 I found that the camera had a lot of trouble 574 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.319 if it's like trying to follow me as I'm making 575 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.039 my tunnel and it's going all over the place, and 576 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:10.680 I'm silhouetting over here, and it's just not lining up 577 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:12.440 where I want it to, don't I can't see what 578 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:14.519 I'm trying to see. That I think was one of 579 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:16.400 the weaker parts of the game. So then have an 580 00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:19.400 entire layer where that is the dominant viewpoint I have 581 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.759 for most of the layer. I just wanted to get 582 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.319 out of there as soon as possible. I don't know 583 00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.559 it'll stop me from wanting one hundred percent of the game. 584 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.440 I may just grin and Barrett go back, find the bananas, 585 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.480 and be done with it forever. But I feel like 586 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.960 that part of it just added a little frustration that 587 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:37.720 otherwise I would have been fine with. 588 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.680 I definitely got used pretty quickly. You see the camera 589 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.799 the way it works underground, but I know that that 590 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.960 is going to be the source of a lot of 591 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.559 frustration for a lot of casual players. I think are 592 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.839 typical players where but like for me when I was 593 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.559 doing it's like, Okay, if the camera is ever in 594 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:55.960 a situation where I see that silhouette, it's probably not 595 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.000 going to feel good. So I just try to bring 596 00:28:58.039 --> 00:28:59.839 the camera down into the ground, and once it does 597 00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.160 that and everything becomes transparent, then it's like, oh, this 598 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.440 is this is pretty good because at a certain point, 599 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:06.000 and I think this is the main reason that I 600 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:10.279 followed that main trail, the main main bread crumbs is 601 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:13.200 because the game is about destruction and about punching, and 602 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.720 the materials have different strengths to them, and when you 603 00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.319 punch through sand, it like evaporates, and when you punch 604 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.400 through stone it takes a couple punches before you move on. 605 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.240 I just started like taking the path of least resistance, 606 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.160 and sometimes that meant like I'm just going to fuel 607 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.480 my way through this level and not even really see 608 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.559 what's going on. And somehow I don't know how to 609 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:34.839 say this without making it sound like excusing the camera, 610 00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:37.880 but it just didn't bother me because I was loving 611 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.440 the way that felt so much that I could feel 612 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:43.519 my way through it, and I'm kind of like, Okay, 613 00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.319 I'm glad that they made a game and didn't shy 614 00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:50.480 away from enabling that sort of play because the camera. 615 00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.200 It was a little bit tricky in those situations. 616 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:54.079 I think the camera is like the best they could 617 00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.359 have done without just putting it like you know, right 618 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.000 behind DK, well you have no field of view. 619 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.359 Was pretty close. It's a pretty close camera. 620 00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:04.759 It is, but it's also you can't you can rotate it. 621 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.039 You can see like unless it's like bumping into a wall, 622 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.920 you can see all around you and our thing. I 623 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.880 think that's very good, I do think on the subject though, 624 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.279 maybe my one ripe with the game is that it 625 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.160 does feel like the two halves are very separated out 626 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:21.799 at least the way I'm playing. I can very much 627 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:26.440 feel that I am doing the digging portion on the overworld, 628 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.319 and then I go two separate areas to do the 629 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:30.480 platforming challenges. 630 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:31.279 I haven't at. 631 00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:34.680 Least sure what halfway ish maybe through the game, I 632 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:41.759 haven't had any platforming challenges really in the main large areas. 633 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.960 It feels like I'm going somewhere else, and I think 634 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.559 I do kind of prefer the way, because I wouldn't 635 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.640 say I have a problem with it. It just feels a 636 00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:52.720 little weird, and I think I prefer the way that 637 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.279 say Mario Ossy did this somewhat and in a comical fashion. 638 00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.839 SoC Frontiers did this a lot where you'll just be 639 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.319 in this big open area and then a puzzle will 640 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.279 be floating in air. It's like, well, I got to 641 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.079 get up there and do the platforming puzzle or whatever. 642 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.440 But maybe it's because you have so much mobility in 643 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.160 this game that they didn't watch you like breaking things 644 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:15.720 in order to get there. They watch I don't know 645 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:17.119 about that platform challenge. 646 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.559 That's exactly what I was going to say is I 647 00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:21.519 have now gone back and I've been watching some other 648 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.799 people play. I did that quick look with Mike. I 649 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:27.960 sequence breaked like five things in this game because I 650 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.200 was just like, I'm going to play the dumb Jeff way. 651 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:31.640 I know the game's trying to get me to do 652 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.720 that thing over there, but I don't care. I'm just 653 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:36.279 I think I can make this work by throwing some 654 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.880 sand over there, or I can probably string together these 655 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.400 platform and things. And in those in that moment when 656 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.240 I was able to cross some massive gap that I 657 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.519 clearly I was not supposed to do in this moment. 658 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.880 It was awesome, but it reminded me Sean that was like, 659 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.200 I wish there was more of this sort of designed 660 00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:57.319 purposely through the game, and I was doing it more 661 00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.519 frequently in these levels as opposed to going into the 662 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.599 challenge room. So I definitely felt that in that moment. 663 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.200 Yeah, now I'm with you there, and that sort of 664 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.599 applied to you were saying the boss fights were mostly 665 00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:10.519 too easy, but the ones that were difficult you could 666 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.240 kind of figure out ways to brute force as well. 667 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:13.960 A later one. 668 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.000 I'm not going to say exactly who it is or 669 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.200 where it is, but you had to like create platforms 670 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:21.680 for yourself in order to get where you needed to go, 671 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:24.400 and you did that by throwing chunks. You just throw 672 00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:28.000 a chunk and then we won't But I noticed I 673 00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.920 could throw the chunk at the enemy and just progress 674 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:35.039 the boss fight from there by doing the damage I 675 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.880 needed to do. So it just made it I didn't 676 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.359 have to go to the platform and then hit anymore. 677 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.319 I just already did the hit, so I could just 678 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.599 throw a bunch of chunks and then go to the 679 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.799 next part of the fight. If that makes sense. It 680 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.359 makes sense probably the Jeff, but that to me, it 681 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:55.559 sort of puts a spotlight on what little inconsistencies or 682 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:58.400 what little gripes I have, while being able to brute 683 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:01.440 force is fun. As Jeff just said, I kind of 684 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:07.279 wish there was more of a integrated platforming or integrated Yeah. 685 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.559 Yeah, give me a chance to make It's so open 686 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.440 that I can like define my own capabilities to get 687 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.759 through this world. Sure, I guess do I want both? 688 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:17.880 I want this and then I want Mario Odyssey too. 689 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.160 Is really because I think the way they design this 690 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.640 game works for what it is, and if I had 691 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.720 to choose, Sean, I think I'm on your side, where 692 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.839 the jumping around in Odyssey is probably my slight preference, 693 00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.960 but that does I don't want to forsake this to 694 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.480 get more of that, because the destruction in here and 695 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.240 the ability to like have these materials work together. 696 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.680 Has been so cool to see. 697 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:40.799 It is one of these another Nintendo game that's like 698 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.119 I bet developers to play this and pull out their 699 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:44.960 hair and say, oh my god, I can't believe anyone 700 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:45.799 actually did this. 701 00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:49.519 It's different flavors, you know, and I think that's cool. 702 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.000 It's like with Pizza, I do want that, like pepperoni pizza, 703 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.519 but I also like the barbecue chicken pizza or whatever. 704 00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:57.119 I like mixing it up. Well, I like to get 705 00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.720 the supreme sometimes. That's what Nintendo's kind of doing right now. 706 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.920 Other stuff feels like in the same house, but it's 707 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.319 different flavors of the same thing. I appreciate that they're 708 00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:07.640 doing that, And Bonanza feels like another one of those. 709 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:15.599 That was a very risky analogy because I feel like we. 710 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.400 Dodged a few bullets there. I thought you were gonna 711 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.679 say meat the meat people, the meat. 712 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:22.920 Lovers, like, look, I get it. You want to put 713 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.400 pepperoni or buffalo. 714 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:28.760 Chicken so much like a meat lover's one. Yo, I'm 715 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:35.639 getting the itis immediately. Yeah, I'm just like, what have 716 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:36.239 I done? 717 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:37.880 Yeah? 718 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.760 Well, I feel left out in this Donkey Kong's conversation 719 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:42.880 because I started playing this game. 720 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:47.639 Right like an idiot, like a moron, like a buffoon. 721 00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:50.480 Because I live with a ten year old super cool 722 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.280 gamer who was like, you're not playing this I am, 723 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.960 And I'm like, I guess you're right, like the same 724 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.400 thing to me. She literally comes up, since that mine 725 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.239 now and took to switch to you away. 726 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.519 He's like he goes, why weren't you playing this in 727 00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.159 your office? And I was like, well, I guess I 728 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.360 kind of wanted you to see it. But now in retrospect, 729 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:13.039 I realized all I have done is given you this 730 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.000 game to play ahead of me. It's kind of like 731 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.239 Astrobot all over again. So I've been watching did play 732 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:24.039 this game for about six hours and he is one 733 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:25.960 of these people who was just like, I can't believe 734 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.199 this game is letting me do all this destruction. That 735 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:32.400 is very neat. I think I have heard a lot 736 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.400 of the criticism that you guys are starting to pop up, 737 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.960 mostly with like there's too many needless bananas, right, Like, 738 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:43.440 I hear that a lot, and I didn't get it 739 00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:48.000 through his play because he's like everything, Yeah, that's just 740 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:49.000 what I've heard anecdotally. 741 00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:51.199 I actually would agree with that. 742 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.440 I've had so many we're just like I'm just telling 743 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.519 it's like, oh, there's there's one, Okay, I didn't do 744 00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.280 anything to get it. 745 00:35:58.480 --> 00:35:59.239 Just like that. 746 00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:01.480 I don't like the idea of like, oh, you have 747 00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.679 to do something to get the banana. If you were 748 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.960 playing the game and you're exploring, you happen to stumble 749 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.960 across one I think having like a handful of those 750 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.599 in each levels is cool. And then there are also 751 00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:13.239 the ones where you have to do something right. 752 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.840 But think Odyssey never had one where you like really 753 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.719 just get it for no reason. You do, like even 754 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:23.159 a small thing, you know, you make water plant or something. 755 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:23.840 You know what I'm saying. 756 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.239 Well, I definitely I remember hearing a very similar criticism 757 00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.360 for Odyssey of people like I'm just stumbling across moon 758 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.199 shines or whatever they're called. They're not calling alcohol. 759 00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.960 That's a whole different game big jugs, but like they're 760 00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.800 just rewards for exploration, right, You're exploring these open these 761 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.960 open places and getting these like every time. I'm a 762 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.719 big sonar guy, So every time I do the sonar 763 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:50.760 clap and I see the silhouette of a banana over there, 764 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.679 my first thought is, all right, well, how am I 765 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:54.719 getting over there? I'll tell you the game clicked for 766 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.199 me at one point, very early there was it was 767 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.760 just a banana behind one of the concrete walls, and 768 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:02.440 I'm trying to get around it. I don't think I 769 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.280 had the first bonanza yet, so I'm just trying to 770 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.519 figure out the best way to get to get this banana, 771 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.159 and then I realized it's going to the Wall's going 772 00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:11.880 to the wall and get the banana that way, and 773 00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:14.360 that was like, okay, cool, it's gonna reward me for 774 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.960 doing things out of my out of the way they 775 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:17.559 want me to do it. 776 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:17.719 Now. 777 00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.159 I did notice that I would get bananas like by 778 00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.320 digging into a hidden room that I wasn't supposed to 779 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:26.880 be in and then fighting my way out of it, 780 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.840 as opposed to coming in, getting the banana and leaving, 781 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:33.239 which again I think is just a reward for exploration. 782 00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:37.199 The thing. It's the open world versus like the old 783 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.239 Zelda formula argument, Right, do you want to be rewarded 784 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.880 for exploration or do you just want to go around 785 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.920 the empty world? We'll see what's there and then get 786 00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:46.960 back on the beaten path. And I think I prefer 787 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.239 what Bonanza is doing here as opposed to that alternative. 788 00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:55.000 Sure, yeah, I mean I can tell he's having fun 789 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.840 exploring and we're laughing a lot, and it's just real 790 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.480 goofy and dumb and doc he's kind of a he's 791 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.880 kind of an idiot. I mean, you know, you know, 792 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.039 like I god forbid this guy like looks like he 793 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:10.280 knows what's happening. 794 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:14.280 Well, no, he's just so empty headed and I love it. 795 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:19.920 Yeah, any dialogtry is just like actual options then bananas. 796 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:25.320 Yeah, and I answer bananas every time. Everyone live your truth. Brother, 797 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.920 It's great, Primates. I really got to say, like, you know, 798 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.679 I've been craving bananas so bad in the last like 799 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:35.239 two weeks. 800 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:35.960 It's been crazy. 801 00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:38.599 I have to ask. Yeah, I have to ask all 802 00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:41.159 four of you. Since you started playing this game, like 803 00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:42.679 like a week a little more than a week ago, 804 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.440 how many times have you, your children or anyone else 805 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.559 who has watched you played this game said, oh, banana, 806 00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:51.440 because I am at least in the hundreds. 807 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.039 Yeah, it's at least. It's definitely been like a banana. 808 00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.519 I just I walt pass, I walk past the fruit ball. 809 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.199 Oh banana. Yeah, come, it just become a thing. 810 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.119 Last night I was playing games with friends and have 811 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.280 a friend who does not He doesn't have the game. 812 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.280 He does have a switch to, but like just randomly 813 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:13.000 he said, Oh, I'm like, how do you know about this? 814 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.119 I think, And to go back to Donkey Kong. The 815 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.400 best way to describe that guy, I think is the 816 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.599 word O's a lovable of you just want to. Even 817 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:29.920 when he's like sort of being like, no, I don't 818 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.039 care what Pauline wants, I just want bananas, You're like, yeah, 819 00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:33.639 I get it. He's still he's still a monkey. And 820 00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.800 the dichotomy between those two d K and Pauline is 821 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:39.880 a relationship. 822 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:40.159 Yeah. 823 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.719 I'm not just saying that as a father of daughters, 824 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:44.239 because there's a lot of that there. But it's also 825 00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.639 like this this I don't know, there's there's the way 826 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:49.119 that they capture, the way that the two of them 827 00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.639 talk to each other, Pauline's chats with you when you 828 00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.320 go to the Getaways. I watched every single one and 829 00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.159 other games that would be something I would skip to 830 00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.239 just get over. But the way that she like is 831 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.440 just thinking about things and and the way that like, 832 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:03.000 oh look at this over there, and making observations about 833 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.519 the world that you're in. And if you notice, from 834 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.760 the beginning of the game, she's very nervous, very reserved, 835 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.559 very kept in. But as the game progresses, she starts 836 00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:13.559 to break out of that shell, and you see her 837 00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.920 breakout of that show. I thought it was great character, you. 838 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:17.519 Know, in terms of breaking out of the shell. Though 839 00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.519 I do wonder how this game went is different if 840 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.119 she stayed as odd Rock longer. He's like, very quickly 841 00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.519 they transition from odd Rock to Pauline. I'm like, that 842 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.400 was like an hour or something like. Yeah, I know, 843 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:32.800 she's part of the marketing. It's not like some secret 844 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.559 that she's like the other main character. And it's definitely 845 00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.920 better for marketing for it to be decam Pauline. Old 846 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.000 people know who that is. Younger people are like, oh, 847 00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.320 it's sort of a father daughter kind of thing going 848 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.440 on here. It's cute. But I do kind of wonder 849 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:48.920 if they will have kept that surprise how we all 850 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.159 have reacted to that, especially because odd auder Rock was 851 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.280 kind of cute, like yeah, and especially the yeah, the 852 00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.440 way she speaks and everything be a little stilted, and 853 00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:59.840 it's like you get a bit and she's like I'm happy. 854 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:03.880 I'm like, oh, it's adorable. I kind of wonder, you know, I. 855 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.719 Like left the room for an hour. I had seen 856 00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.280 the Rock and I'm like, oh, that's funny. That's your buddy, 857 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:10.599 you know. 858 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.599 I guess it makes sense for a dumb idiot, you know, 859 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.039 Gorilla to have a dumb rock as a friend like that. 860 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.320 And then I came back and he's like that rocks 861 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:20.719 a girl. 862 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:21.800 Now, I'm just. 863 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:24.559 Sick. 864 00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:29.280 I wish it was almost a little bit even more 865 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.000 of a musical than it is. She sings that's Pauline's 866 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:36.719 whole thing, and she there are the banansa powers, Like 867 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.880 those are musical moments. She's singing, that's what turns you 868 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.639 into those things. It's awesome, yes, And then the ending, 869 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:44.519 of course, is going to have a couple of those moments. 870 00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.199 I kind of wish there was just like a few 871 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.800 more spread throughout that We're similar to Jump Up Superstar 872 00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.440 from Odyssey, Yeah, a little bit, because I'm like, I 873 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.039 think this game might be a musical, and I like 874 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.320 that idea of Nintendo going all out on that. And 875 00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:57.880 there are some songs Where'm like, oh, yeah, I think 876 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.280 these are going to be like hits with people who 877 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.079 like like show tunes and stuff like that, especially like 878 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.159 the end credits song. Yep. 879 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.559 But I would like even more of that. I think 880 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:09.920 they kind of underplayed that that strong card that they 881 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:10.320 had there. 882 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:13.480 Yeah, but I would like to give props to the 883 00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.400 vocalist to that, Jenny Kid, I think it's her name, 884 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:16.719 And I don't know if this is her first turn 885 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:18.039 doing voice acting or what? 886 00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:22.639 But man, she yeah, everyone obviously, I don't know what 887 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.199 the final bosses. Everyone keeps talking about or like the 888 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.840 ending or whatever it is, and I'm just like, okay, well, 889 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.960 I'm looking forward to seeing that. It's not seeing Donkey 890 00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.920 fight the Chiquita Corporation. I don't. 891 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.840 Banjo shows up with a gun and he's revealed to 892 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:44.400 be the real bad guy. Looking forward to experiencing that 893 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:49.039 with my family. Very good. All right, what's uh? What's 894 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:50.000 everyone else playing? 895 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:50.159 Who? 896 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:54.840 Someone has Mario Paint in Rundown here? And I want 897 00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.280 to know more about this game. I've never heard of it. 898 00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:02.599 Uhed on switched to yesterday. Yeah, so Nintendo last night 899 00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:07.440 released this on Nintendo Switch Online Super Nintendo Entertainment System, 900 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.800 and they included mouse support, So on Switch one you 901 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:12.719 could plug in a USB mouse, something you could do 902 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:14.159 in a lot of games on Switch one. 903 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:15.559 But it's kind of enough feature. 904 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.559 They don't talk about a ton But on switch to, 905 00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.039 obviously you could just use the joy Con and it 906 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:24.000 works like a mouse and there's like no problem there, 907 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:25.719 and it's it's great and Mario Paint's back. 908 00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:27.159 It is. 909 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.800 Still that game, and I still like like, I'm still 910 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.039 like like messing around, but I was never great at 911 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:38.199 any paint program. Although I just got done listening to 912 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.400 that book The History of the Pixel, where they talk 913 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.679 a lot about the history of paint programs, and so 914 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.280 I'm like a little bit more curious about, like how 915 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.119 is this working. I'm like a little bit more in awe. 916 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:48.639 Whereas a kid, I'm like, yeah, this is what you 917 00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:50.480 do a computers. You're drawing them and you make stuff. 918 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.119 But I did forget like how much there is. There's 919 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.039 quite it's quite capable. There's an anime music week, right, 920 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.199 there's music. There's a famous music maker where it's like 921 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.639 that is still something that to this day, people have 922 00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:07.480 recreated that online and added a bunch of other sound profiles, 923 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.360 so you can use the Mario Paint Music Making tool 924 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.599 to recreate other songs and stuff like that. But yeah, 925 00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.719 that's the one I played with the most as. 926 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.679 A kid, like making the Star Wars theam or trying 927 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:19.239 to make the Star Wars theme as best I could, 928 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.840 things like that. But yeah, it's just cool to see 929 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:22.159 this back. 930 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:26.199 It's cool to see cool Secene Nintendo just drop this 931 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:28.880 into Nso I was like what are they gonna do 932 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.880 with Mario paint. They will do something have the mouse, 933 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:32.920 but are they gonna like re release it or something 934 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.400 like that. It's like, no, it's just in the Nintendo 935 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.880 Switch online. It does make me wonder, like, do they 936 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:42.360 follow this up with a new Mario paint that is 937 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:44.679 a full release, because it's like they do have a 938 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:46.360 mouse for this thing, and they're kind of making a 939 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:47.760 big deal about it. I don't know. 940 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.960 I'm a little bit a good question. 941 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.360 And if it were me, If it were me, I 942 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.199 would say, you make a Mario music maker and just 943 00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.559 include the paint features with it, because the music maker 944 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:02.599 has been what has as per uh yeah, as persistent 945 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:04.760 all these leaders. So if you market it as a 946 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.519 music maker and hey there's paint stuff too, I think 947 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.559 that would make more sense. As far as a new 948 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:10.320 piece of stuff. 949 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:12.639 I was I was gonna say southing similar Mario Maker three. 950 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:14.679 It's more than just levels. It is all the Mario 951 00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.960 paint stuff because still just right, Mario Maker, you just 952 00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:19.320 have it all in one place, right. 953 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:24.039 It's wild how influential the music part of that has 954 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:28.760 been from the original paint, right, It's like without Mario Paint. 955 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.039 There's no teenage engineering. 956 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:33.199 I feel like, you know, there are a lot of 957 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.519 people from our generation that got introduced to the idea 958 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:41.679 of a digital audio interface from Mario Paint. Like it 959 00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:43.559 was just the first time that people realized that you 960 00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.840 can make music with a computer, like pre eye opening. 961 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.000 Anytime there's like a someone who works with synth tunes, 962 00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.000 chip tunes and that kind of stuff, like a GDQ couch, 963 00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.079 they'll say like, yeah, I got my start, you know, 964 00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:58.039 making this stuff for Mario Paint, and then I just 965 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.639 got really into doing this sequence of stuff and now 966 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:01.199 it's my job. 967 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.519 We had always assume that Mario Pain was going to 968 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:06.400 be a thing with the mouse as soon as there 969 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.599 was the mouse, right, Like, that's the first. 970 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.960 Thing that everyone thought of. Yes, absolutely, yep, Yeah, well 971 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.320 that's cool to see what uh. 972 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.000 I feel like there are still game Cube like gaps 973 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.079 in uh Nintenna Switch Online, and I'm like. 974 00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.320 Yeah, there's like four games on there so far, so yeah, 975 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.599 like we're I mean, there's not a ton of gaps 976 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.639 left on the systems that were on before GameCube in 977 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.280 terms of games that would be easy for Nintendo put 978 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.079 to put on there. Right, they're not making a lot 979 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.679 of third party deals. And then in terms of first party, right, 980 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:44.639 nothing too glaring. There's a couple exceptions on in sixty 981 00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.760 four specifically where it's like, ah, why isn't is it 982 00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.480 did Diddy Kong Racing and Donkey Kunk sixty four. Well 983 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.199 it's like, well that's some rare stuff, but they own 984 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:53.760 those things. They could put it on there, they just 985 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.840 haven't yet. But for GameCube, yeah, there's there's a ton 986 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.760 of stuff that they could still do, and they've announced 987 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:02.639 a few that haven't even come out yet. I would 988 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:06.400 imagine a lot of it gets dicey, just because I 989 00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.960 do think that era is maybe a bit ripe for the. 990 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:13.760 Sort of like remastering Harvest right where it's at the 991 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:14.639 right right. 992 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.800 So there's at least with first party, Like wind Waker 993 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:21.760 was there day one and we all thought wind Waker 994 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.840 wasn't gonna happen because they would just port over win 995 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:27.119 Waker HD. But they're like they did, they just put 996 00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.039 that on service. So whether they do win Waker HD 997 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:33.000 on switch to or not, like, that's that's just there. 998 00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:36.159 And so you assume thing could happen with Twilight Princess 999 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.679 saying could happen with Mario Sunshine, even though they have 1000 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:43.920 the option just you know, literally re released at Yeah, 1001 00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.599 but all the first party stuff, I don't know. It 1002 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.280 seems like maybe they'll do both or they just put 1003 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.280 up the GameCube original third parties. Yes, it's a little 1004 00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.599 different because they would may want to get right off 1005 00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:56.159 a remaster. 1006 00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:57.280 Yeah, definitely. 1007 00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.079 So Yeah, I don't expect a ton like or not 1008 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.440 a ton, but even a little bit of third party 1009 00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.159 the way that some of the other platforms did, because 1010 00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:06.760 I think a lot of those are going to do 1011 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.559 exactly this. They are going to follow it up with 1012 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.079 remasters and re release them because that generation, you could 1013 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.199 still make a ton of money from rereleasing those games. 1014 00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.400 There's a lot of demand for those games generally. It's 1015 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.920 why the retro market's so expensive, and people always get excited. 1016 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.639 You say, hey, that GameCube game is coming back. Yeah, 1017 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:23.840 people hop on that. Yeah. 1018 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.960 Playing Bonanza, I've been thinking to myself, Man, wouldn't it 1019 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.920 be cool of like Aspire if someone did like a 1020 00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.880 Hull Ultimate Destruction HD, Like. 1021 00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:33.159 Man, that would be cool. 1022 00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:33.679 I'd love that. 1023 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:38.280 So Sunshine was the only Mario GameCube game. 1024 00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:41.639 Right truct A Nameline platformer. 1025 00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:46.199 Yes, yes, right, yeah, okay, interesting, all right, very good. 1026 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:47.840 Let's see. 1027 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:53.920 We've also have WW two K twenty five on our. 1028 00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:56.639 List, specifically on the switch to, which is why I 1029 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:57.639 figured I would bring it up. 1030 00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.960 Okay, what do you got that verse? 1031 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.440 She came out a couple of weeks ago, uh, when 1032 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:05.599 I went under fire for some community creation things that 1033 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.039 were left out, but I didn't have a chance to 1034 00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:09.639 get into that and see how much of a difference 1035 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:13.800 it really made. But as far as like playing WWE 1036 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.760 on the go on my switch to, it feels really good, 1037 00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.519 Like I really, I really, I feel like it controls well. 1038 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.119 That this series did not feel good on Switch one, right, 1039 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:24.719 it was like pretty rough on switch one. 1040 00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:29.960 I don't I only this is my first switch WWE experience. 1041 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.840 I played on pretty rough before this, so yeah, yeah, yeah, 1042 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.760 this one, this one feels pretty good. The way that 1043 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.880 the code came with all of the dlc attached to 1044 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:42.440 it too, So I'm already up to date with where 1045 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:46.920 the consoles are now, all the modes are there. It's 1046 00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.400 a full package, except for just the community community thing 1047 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:51.519 that I hadn't had a chance to really explore yet. 1048 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.239 But as far as like comparing it to the console 1049 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:57.199 or PC experience, I was very impressed. I felt like 1050 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.079 I was able to you know, play matches and and 1051 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.639 do everything I would want to do with just as 1052 00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.760 much you know, speed or quality or whatever as I 1053 00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:09.960 did in previous versions on the PlayStation five. And being 1054 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.639 able to have that ww E two K experience wherever 1055 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:14.639 I want now in the way that it should be 1056 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.639 is it's pretty damn cool. I think that's and it's 1057 00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:21.360 a good way to get Like my nine year old 1058 00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.840 really likes WWE, but she's never allowed to stay up 1059 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:25.880 to watch it. So now if she's not doing anything like, hey, 1060 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:28.239 go pick your favorite wrestler and go mess around for 1061 00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:29.760 a little while, and she can start to build that 1062 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.079 fandom up a little bit too. But yeah, I think 1063 00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:34.440 it plays great. It's a it's a good option if 1064 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:36.360 you're a wrestling fan who wants to be able to 1065 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:41.199 play this outside of your house. The lack of cross 1066 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:45.239 progression kind of sucks. I wasn't able to connect or 1067 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:46.719 if I haven't figured it out. At least I got 1068 00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:48.440 my two K account there, but I wasn't able to 1069 00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:51.400 connect to my PlayStation account. I don't know if that's 1070 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.400 a possibility, But for the most part, I was impressed 1071 00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.199 with this port, especially now with the switch to and 1072 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.519 switchboards being what they were before. It's good to see 1073 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:03.039 this year now. 1074 00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:06.440 Yeah, I do find myself thinking when it comes time 1075 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:07.920 to buying a game, like I was singing this with 1076 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.599 Tony Hawks because I would have a copy. I was thinking, like, 1077 00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:14.880 do I like, yeah, should maybe I gets the Steam version. 1078 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:16.960 I know it's on game Pass, but maybe, you know, 1079 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:18.880 I'm just feeling weird about a lot of that stuff 1080 00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.360 in general. Maybe I get when it's on sale on 1081 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.000 like a green Man Gaming or something like that. Then 1082 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.280 I have the realization don't switch too, and it's probably 1083 00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.039 pretty good on switch too, Like you know, maybe I 1084 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.639 don't want to spend all that money, especially with current 1085 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.639 events on that right now, but maybe I get like 1086 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.079 the physical switch To version when that hits to bargain 1087 00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:40.880 Bin or something, because that would be like a decent 1088 00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:42.679 way of play that. And it is weird to be 1089 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.480 back in that place of thinking, oh, yeah, I can 1090 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.559 play a third party game on my switch and it's 1091 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.119 not like a hugely compromise experience. Well, we'll get to 1092 00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.519 the point where it is like, yeah, it's it's thirty fps. 1093 00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:56.239 Bigger consoles are sixty or whatever, but nice to have 1094 00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.559 that option again. Kind of feels like even better than 1095 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:01.719 when this WHICH one launch because there is so much 1096 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:03.000 extra power out the gate. 1097 00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.239 Yeah, there's some there is a knock on effect of this, 1098 00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.920 Like you know, now that I've turned on my switch 1099 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.320 to to play a video game, I feel like there 1100 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:14.760 is this knock on effect where it has opened up 1101 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.599 the doors to things where like when the original came out, 1102 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:18.960 you were just sort of like, oh, all right, this 1103 00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:21.320 is sort of starting from scratch, but being able to 1104 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.280 do you know, Tears of the Kingdom at sixty frames 1105 00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:28.440 and just yeah, that has changed the dynamic at least 1106 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.760 for me and what I'm looking for and now considering 1107 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.960 it as a mobile thing, where like it was basically 1108 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.559 cemented into the dock for you know, five years, for 1109 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:43.079 me is definitely like a consideration that I've only just 1110 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.760 started to have with this thing. I'm it's growing on me. 1111 00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:50.440 I think I still need some more you know, compelling 1112 00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.119 first party stuff, but yeah, sure, yeah. 1113 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:54.079 Well we'll get there. 1114 00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:56.000 I think it's been a good start now with Donkey 1115 00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:59.320 Kong that's helped like really establish like oh, this thing 1116 00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.320 feels worth it for me at this point. Would I 1117 00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:04.599 recommend it to someone who's like, hey, what about that 1118 00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:06.800 switch to I'm like, okay, well, if you're feeling that 1119 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:08.519 way about it, if you're like asking about it, no, 1120 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.920 just wait, we wait to this holiday see what these 1121 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:12.800 other games are like. But you could easily wait till 1122 00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.159 next year, and they're probably going to have an Animal 1123 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.079 Crossing within the next couple of years and a few 1124 00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:19.559 other things that you'll want and once you know, like 1125 00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:21.960 I've pulled this before, my friend has ten game really 1126 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:23.920 doesn't buy a new console until it has ten games 1127 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:25.840 he wants to play. And I think you can sort 1128 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:27.760 of like scale that up and down depending on like 1129 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:29.960 where you're at, like five games you want to play. 1130 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:30.840 That's probably. 1131 00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:36.599 Well, he's got much more savings than I do, so 1132 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:37.360 you want. 1133 00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.400 To on every console, you know? 1134 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:41.960 Exactly, Yeah, that's true exactly. 1135 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.880 With the switch too, was these things aren't going down 1136 00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.880 in price. We'll just buy it right away, buying it 1137 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:48.960 either way eventually, you. 1138 00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:54.679 Know, Sorry, real quick, LEXI just got me so bad. 1139 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:58.440 I'm like, oh, didn't Nintendo announce the direct and the tweet? 1140 00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:00.559 It's the you tweet it's and the name of the 1141 00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:02.760 console is we you thanks a. 1142 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.880 Lot, like you got my ass, got my too? 1143 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:11.639 Haven't deleted that well? I mean true, the name of 1144 00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:16.079 that console was once the week just for like, yeah, 1145 00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:18.920 like maybe we just you know, bring that tweet out back. 1146 00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:21.039 You know, I just tweeted it again. 1147 00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:24.639 So it's like the thanks about unless we're getting Mega 1148 00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:26.880 sixty four in to a skit, Yeah. 1149 00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:29.960 Can you go get a switch to Can you get 1150 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.719 one if you like work hard for like a couple 1151 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:35.480 of days, I bet you'll be able to find one. 1152 00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.400 But you're not gonna be able to go like tonight 1153 00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.000 to target and one target and walk in and get 1154 00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:44.679 one now. And this thing, you know, this thing's expensive. 1155 00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:45.480 I guess I've never. 1156 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.320 Really like had a hard, long, hard conversation with myself 1157 00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:52.800 like wow, this thing that doesn't have that much. It's 1158 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:56.400 the best selling console ever, fast, the fastest selling through 1159 00:54:56.440 --> 00:55:00.679 the first sorry fast, that's the probably. I think that 1160 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:04.280 is still surprising given its cost and the state of 1161 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:06.239 the state. That is surprising. 1162 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:08.119 I think a lot of people are just like me though, 1163 00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:10.920 of being like, well, I'm gonna have to get one 1164 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.239 of these eventually, because there's gonna be the next Mario, 1165 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.079 the next Zelda, the next Pokemon. Might as well just 1166 00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.039 buy it while it's like, because it seems like there 1167 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.760 were a lot available at the start, I might as 1168 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.719 well pick one up now and then just I'll have 1169 00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:24.800 it for the rest of the year, especially if there's 1170 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:26.480 any surprises or anything as well. 1171 00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:31.800 Right, But I'm building the economic sort of like consideration 1172 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:35.239 into that conversation, right where like, oh. 1173 00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.199 Yeah, I don't feel great's five hundred dollars. 1174 00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:42.719 That's like, you know, if you a physically responsible person 1175 00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.400 would not just be like, well, I'm just gonna like basically, 1176 00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.400 you know, dump five hundred dollars into this thing as 1177 00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:51.800 some sort of I don't know, it's not an investment. 1178 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.480 It's not some kind of like uh, you know, you're 1179 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:57.079 basically just sort of giving. 1180 00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:59.519 Your pretending access, right your purchasing the ability to access 1181 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.960 more ways to pay them even more money. Yeah, exactly. 1182 00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.760 Yeah, it's a slip slope, right, Like, so I don't 1183 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.760 that's what I can't connect the dots from that position 1184 00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:09.880 of like, oh, I'm just gonna do this as a 1185 00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:12.960 preemptive sort of It's a switch. 1186 00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:16.239 Is a switch a fect like everyone had to switch 1187 00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:17.719 one and they're like, okay, well I know what this 1188 00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:19.960 is and that's why we all said it needs to 1189 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.360 just be switched to. And they did just go switch 1190 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:24.760 to because everyone knows what switch one is. And they're like, 1191 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.199 oh crap, it's like PlayStation I just yeah, I just 1192 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.719 buy the next one. Like PS five, let's be real 1193 00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:32.559 with ourselves. PS five doesn't have that much exclusive software 1194 00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:36.159 that's worth buying one for. If your hardcore inside ecosystem, 1195 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.239 you buy because your games are better than ever and 1196 00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:40.159 you want to play the exclusive. 1197 00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:41.119 Exact same thing. Here you go. 1198 00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:43.559 But yeah, it's also like a five hundred dollars thing 1199 00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:46.679 that you're probably it's probably not a great buy in 1200 00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.440 you know, the grand scheme of things, but it's just 1201 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:51.920 what you do because that's what you know that's very 1202 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.039 comfortable with the earthing. 1203 00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:55.920 I was gonna say PlayStation doesn't have any first party 1204 00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:00.639 software because they keep canceling it anyway. Uh, but like see, 1205 00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:03.599 I I justified it as a day one purchase because 1206 00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.199 it's a work thing, right, Being the freelancer in the 1207 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:07.840 in the business that we are, I need to be 1208 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.239 able to play these games. But there's also a fomo 1209 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.480 thing attached to it. If I had the opportunity to 1210 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.719 be on this podcast and y'all were talking about Bonanza 1211 00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:18.280 and I hadn't played it, i'd be tear my hair around. 1212 00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.159 So I knew I was getting it eventually. I knew 1213 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:22.960 I was gonna want a day one and any day 1214 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:24.519 that I didn't have it after launch, I was just 1215 00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.079 going to think about it until I got it. That 1216 00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.559 being said, if I did not have a big box 1217 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.800 retailer credit card, I don't know that I would have 1218 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:34.760 been able to do it day one. That sort of 1219 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.400 helped me as well, So I get I kind of 1220 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:39.199 I get both sides of it. I need it for 1221 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.119 the job that I do, but if it weren't for 1222 00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.239 that single thing, I don't know that I would have 1223 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:46.559 been able to So I get why people would wait. 1224 00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:48.679 Oh yeah, min payment plan too, don't you worry? 1225 00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:54.559 But that's fair, Hey zero, just paying four? I love it. 1226 00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.039 Yeah, it makes the whole world go around. Yeah, this 1227 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:03.679 time around maybe books, I like, I don't know. 1228 00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.599 I was. I was talking to like my my buddies, 1229 00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:10.719 but my kids friends, and I don't think it's kids. 1230 00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:15.079 I think I think it's just this is. 1231 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.559 How it goes right now, is we are in the 1232 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:20.920 first part where it's going to be the most dedicated 1233 00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:23.639 Nintendo fans. And this is for every console for the 1234 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.800 most part. But like the people willing to go and 1235 00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.639 get on their what the computer at like nine pm 1236 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.679 and sit there for an hour and a half, refreshing, refreshing, 1237 00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:34.719 trying to get a pre order at best Buy is 1238 00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:36.760 going to be a certain person with a certain level 1239 00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:39.719 of disposable income that like kind of lives and breathes Nintendo. 1240 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:41.679 It turns out they have made a lot of those people, 1241 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.400 so for the first like a couple of months, they 1242 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.400 can really thrive on that matpi is Catel when he 1243 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:50.840 had the Sirkana report for game sales from last month 1244 00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.079 and it was Nintendo switched to sales, and it's like, yeah, 1245 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:54.920 this is the fastest selling ever. Everyone's like, so the 1246 00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:57.639 price right, Everyone's complaining about the price. This proves the 1247 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.400 price is right right, And he's like, look, it proves 1248 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:03.360 the price is correct for this early audience. But it's 1249 00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.480 gonna have another test when it gets to this holiday. 1250 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.639 And will the families that show up at that point 1251 00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:10.800 with the kids saying, hey can I get a switch 1252 00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:12.719 to will they will those kids be able to commit 1253 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.440 convince their parents at that point, at this price, that's 1254 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.000 gonna be. That's still up in the air. We really 1255 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:18.159 don't know if that's happened yet. 1256 00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:20.320 Yeah, they had this entire year as like a buffer 1257 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:23.039 for us hardcore fans and even like some of like 1258 00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:27.239 the connected like soccer moms and dads who are watching 1259 00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:33.679 like you know today connected soccer, the ones who watched 1260 00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:35.679 like the news shows and they're like, this is the 1261 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.320 hot new item right now, the switch to it's out. 1262 00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:40.679 You gotta grab this for you know, like the kids 1263 00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:41.519 are gonna want. 1264 00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:44.800 This, and I promise talk about the concept of connected 1265 00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:52.280 soccer mombs like before represented by the coolest Deborah imaginable. 1266 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.679 But that's why the game at the end of the 1267 00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:59.920 year is Pokemon, because then once all the hardcore pros 1268 01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:03.840 they're switched to you, I still makes. 1269 01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:07.159 A chasm is widening, like the the you know, you're 1270 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:11.159 the grub children the back of our children are not 1271 01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:16.000 typical children, no, and something is changing. And I do 1272 01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.519 think I think, yeah, I think they're I think may 1273 01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.199 I'm sure they've realized it internally, but like that number, 1274 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.639 they're the target number. It is rising. 1275 01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:29.840 The age number is rising because Kindo has mostly buffered 1276 01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:33.920 themselves against these The this concern, the problem that we're 1277 01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.679 talking about is he make a bigger problem for Sony 1278 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.320 and Microsoft, who are like, oh, we have to try, 1279 01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:41.119 we have to build our consoles in such a way 1280 01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:43.800 that we convince a new generation of children who do 1281 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.400 not accept paying five hundred dollars for a console as 1282 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.159 a default way to access their games, that they need 1283 01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:50.960 to do that when they can just go get all 1284 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.039 their games anywhere else for free right now and their 1285 01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:56.880 friends are already playing it. That's such a massive hurdle 1286 01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.960 and definitely certainly that affects them, but it's much much, 1287 01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:04.119 much less as opposed to what has happened with Microsoft, 1288 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:06.920 and especially Microsoft, but also even Sony. 1289 01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.000 Right, And part of that is because Nintendo has positioned 1290 01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.119 itself to be the first console with all of its 1291 01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:15.199 family friendly software and stuff like that. I agree with you. 1292 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:17.880 It really is Pokemon, it really is. 1293 01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:21.480 And and you were saying that Nintendo's given themselves a 1294 01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:23.519 buffer for the first year. I don't know that they 1295 01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:26.679 think the same way because when Pokemon comes out, they're 1296 01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:30.519 bundling it with the switch to remember, so they they 1297 01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.679 think they they think they can win this holiday at 1298 01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.079 this price point, and I don't. I don't know if 1299 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.320 that's possible. I'd like to think so, but I'm not 1300 01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.480 sure that that's going to happen. But they're certainly going 1301 01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:42.840 to try. They're certainly not sitting resting on their laurels. 1302 01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:46.320 They got the Mario Kart sikos in the door, and 1303 01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:49.159 now they're going to get the Pokemon sicicos at at 1304 01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:50.280 at holidays. 1305 01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:55.320 That's time. Mario Kart was such a smart, like potential packing, like, yes, 1306 01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:57.639 you paid more, but you paid less than individually. That's 1307 01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:00.440 why it was such a sick launch game package in game, 1308 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:03.519 because you get all the hardcore sickles, but you do 1309 01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:05.960 get some of those families like I was talking about, 1310 01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.239 because they look at and they're like, oh, Mario Kart, 1311 01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:10.679 the new Mario Kart. There's absolutely parents who are going 1312 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:12.000 to be like, well, we already have Mario Kart. We 1313 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:13.719 only an other one. But there's gonna be the other 1314 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:15.559 ones who enjoy playing with their kids and our thing, 1315 01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:17.280 and the kids want to where they're like, that's just 1316 01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:18.840 the next one. Yeah, I guess we will just get 1317 01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:19.239 the next one. 1318 01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:19.519 Why not? 1319 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:23.480 I guess I'm just sort of like, I don't know, 1320 01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:26.239 I feel like Nintendo is positioned to. 1321 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.000 Do a better roadblocks or like a version of it. 1322 01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:37.320 Yeah, everyone's trying to do the roadblocks, of course, but 1323 01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:39.199 like who are all that stuff? 1324 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:41.440 Yeah, right, of course, but like I do think from 1325 01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:44.800 like a one to one like let's just rip this off, certainly, 1326 01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.599 but that's like all right, like you know what I mean, 1327 01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.159 Like they really are who's positioned better to do that? 1328 01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:54.679 They've already sort of like conceded like, oh, we're going 1329 01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:57.400 to go on other platforms from like a mobile device 1330 01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.280 point of view, and and and and try and you know, 1331 01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:05.519 find children where they are. You know, I'm not rooting 1332 01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:08.280 for them to do that, but certainly you would also 1333 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:11.440 probably have a much better sort of like good faith 1334 01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:15.639 relationship with parents who half of them don't even understand 1335 01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:17.639 what roadblocks is and the other half is sort of 1336 01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:21.719 like too idiotic to be concerned, right, Yeah, And. 1337 01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:27.559 The roadblocks and as concept of user generated content funding 1338 01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:34.199 and fueling, again it's anithetical too. Of course, I still 1339 01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.559 think you're right that that Nintendo could easily go into 1340 01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:38.480 that space and do something. Not easily, but they could 1341 01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.840 go in that space and probably dominate it if they 1342 01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:44.239 wanted to. I personally kind of feel better about Like 1343 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.760 we I live in a no Roadblocks county. We have 1344 01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:59.559 been locally just saying like but straight up right like, yeah, well, 1345 01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:00.880 I'm sorry, Jason, what are you going to say? 1346 01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:03.360 I'm the same as you. Well, Roadblocks does not get 1347 01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:06.280 played in this house. I will I refuse to allow 1348 01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:08.599 any of their devices to have it. And if I 1349 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:11.280 have to dabble onto it for a job or a 1350 01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.159 writing article or whatever, I held my nose the entire 1351 01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.760 time I do it. So Nintendo trying to figure out 1352 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:22.840 a way to eighth Roadblocks's shtick, it's simps ape there 1353 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:27.960 simply for the giving the parents an alternative they're familiar with. 1354 01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:30.519 So I'm one hundred percent agree with you. If there 1355 01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:34.920 was a Roadblox user generated content program that was Nintendo's 1356 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:39.440 with their ips and their characters and their worlds and 1357 01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:41.159 all that stuff, and you can just do whatever you 1358 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:45.960 wanted with that, I think that would be an absolute gangbuster. 1359 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:48.360 And Minecraft sort of gave them that with that. But 1360 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.159 the Mario Tian specifically to the switch version, right, my 1361 01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:54.280 kids play that all the time. So if they tried 1362 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:56.639 to do that again with something that's purely and maybe 1363 01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:58.800 they call it Mario paint to get to nostalgia people 1364 01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:01.760 in and to wrap this discussion in nice big bo. 1365 01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:05.079 I don't know, but I now that you've said that, Jeff, 1366 01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:07.400 I'm surprised they haven't done it yet. I really don't. 1367 01:05:07.679 --> 01:05:10.320 It just seems like, I mean, I'm sure they've obviously, 1368 01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:13.119 I'm sure they are aware of that and either truy 1369 01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:14.679 ideas all the time for sure. 1370 01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:18.119 Yeah, I think. I think. Lastly, the chat pointed out 1371 01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:22.760 Nintendo just doesn't follow trends and they just don't do 1372 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:26.199 things unless it makes sense for them creatively, because they 1373 01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:28.880 you know, they're a business first and foremost their legal 1374 01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:31.760 team reminds us of that all the time. But they 1375 01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:33.639 want to get a game out there that is like 1376 01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:36.519 someone in the company's vision for what they want to be. 1377 01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:39.840 It's why they didn't have a shooter until Splittoon came out, 1378 01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:42.639 because they wanted something that could be the family friendly thing, 1379 01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.280 the cute thing that everyone wears on T shirts and 1380 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.920 like bags and stuff like that. They wanted something that 1381 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.599 would connect with everyone, and they nailed it, Like yeah, 1382 01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:55.320 Paintball of course, like that that's a natural fit for Nintendo. 1383 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:57.159 That's what they're doing here. I think that's what the 1384 01:05:57.559 --> 01:05:59.599 play test thing is probably going to end up being, 1385 01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:01.639 is them trying to do that kind of thing. They 1386 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:04.280 dabble here and there, Mario maker a little bit even 1387 01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.280 gain build their garage a little bit Labo if you 1388 01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:09.280 think of it, kind of a little bit as well. 1389 01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:12.119 You know, that was leaning into the harderboard toys trend 1390 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.719 of that era. But I think they're gonna get there. 1391 01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:17.519 It's just a matter of, well, let's not just rip 1392 01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:19.800 something else off, let's make this make sense for us. 1393 01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:22.400 And that's why, like you know, Bonanza took them this 1394 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:25.519 long to basically make a Minecraft in a way, it's 1395 01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:28.239 you know, you're not like building huge structures in everything. 1396 01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:30.679 They leaned into that in the direct, like you know, hey, 1397 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.159 sculpt with the mouse and everything like that. So they're 1398 01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:35.880 they're getting there just when it makes sense for them. 1399 01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:36.199 To do so. 1400 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.320 Now, somebody in Chad also makes a great point the 1401 01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:41.360 reason we might not have seen this yet is because 1402 01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.920 of Nintendo coming off of me Verse and all of 1403 01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:49.519 the interesting drawlings. Let's say that happened there, they may 1404 01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:51.679 be like, oh, we can't do user generated content. 1405 01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.239 Ever, again, technology is not where we need it to be. 1406 01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:57.960 We need more dick detection, dammit. 1407 01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:03.880 I think wherever that is, I believe in just you know, 1408 01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:07.559 working away in that room like work for an intendent 1409 01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:16.599 uh not shingy profit and intended together. 1410 01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:21.320 I was gonna say, this seems like a job exclusively 1411 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:26.159 for a digital profit. Not only that, but to also 1412 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.760 advise them to stop using the letter oh and number 1413 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:36.559 zero interchangeably in codes for the Nintendo's actually good about that, 1414 01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:38.199 right because they still did that. 1415 01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:40.599 No, No, they have it so like it's not only 1416 01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:42.239 to do the is it not the like you can't 1417 01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:44.800 use both. They gray out all the things they don't 1418 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.440 use on the keyboard. When you the code, it might 1419 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:49.880 not work on uh if you're doing it on the website, 1420 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:51.320 because obviously got it, you're on. 1421 01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:54.719 Billboard there if you figured that out. Dick detection is 1422 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:59.639 the next logical step detection detection. 1423 01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:02.639 We don't have a lot of other games that we've 1424 01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:04.840 been playing, so that was a pretty hefty uh what 1425 01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.960 we have been playing segment. I'll just say real quick, 1426 01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:10.519 I'll be able to talk about Ninja Guide in a 1427 01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:13.079 rage bound next week. I can't say anything else at 1428 01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:15.760 this point, but yeah, looking forward to talking about that 1429 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:16.560 game for sure. 1430 01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:18.960 Very good. All right, Well that means we're going to 1431 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:20.720 take a break. When we come back, we'll get into 1432 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:26.880 the news. Stick around, we'll be right back. Hello, and 1433 01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:32.840 welcome back to the Giant Bomb Cast. I believe news 1434 01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:35.720 is in the air, Isn't that right, Jeff Grubb? 1435 01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:37.479 That's right. 1436 01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:38.720 I had to turn down way too much. 1437 01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:45.800 There we go. This feels official, sor right, everybody who've. 1438 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:46.239 Got some news. 1439 01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:48.640 Also, just let me get back away from these emails. 1440 01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:50.640 I forgot to put emails and jamas out. He usually 1441 01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:52.640 does that, even when he's out, he usually does that, 1442 01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:55.520 but this time he's very out. So going from that, 1443 01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:57.000 go over to the headlines. 1444 01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:58.319 Here, here we go. 1445 01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.239 Microsoft has re first plans to charge eighty dollars for 1446 01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:07.119 The Outer World's two. Microsoft originally was going to charge 1447 01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:08.840 eighty dollars for this and a bunch of its other 1448 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:10.119 holiday games. 1449 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:11.439 A few weeks back. 1450 01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:14.199 You might remember they said, hey, just let you all 1451 01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.600 know we're charging eighty dollars for games going forward, starting 1452 01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:19.479 with The Outer Worlds Too, which is coming out October 1453 01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:22.920 twenty ninth. Well, they have gone back on that decision 1454 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:26.920 is now seventy dollars instead of eighty, and people are 1455 01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:31.199 kind of happy it's only seventy dollars, but so quite 1456 01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:35.479 a move there. This also applies to Call of Duty, 1457 01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:38.239 and there's a Grounded two. Maybe, I don't know, there's 1458 01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:40.079 other games coming out this year. I don't think ground 1459 01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:42.399 of two is going to be that much, but yeah, 1460 01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:45.920 so they are postponing it. That does not mean they 1461 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:48.439 will never charge eighty dollars for a game. They probably 1462 01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:52.640 will do so sometime next year. Everyone sort of speculating. 1463 01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:54.640 Oh, Gears of War e day, they could easily do. 1464 01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:57.560 That for eighty dollars at that point, probably get away 1465 01:09:57.600 --> 01:09:59.760 with it, and now people will know it's coming and 1466 01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:01.680 be like, oh, okay, at least we didn't pay eighty 1467 01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:05.239 dollars for the Outer World too. What do you guys 1468 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:05.960 think happened here? 1469 01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:11.279 We talked about this on the message last week with 1470 01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:15.199 my tinfoil hat theory that it was never going to 1471 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:20.479 be My theory is that was never going to be 1472 01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:23.439 eighty dollars. They just put it out there to see 1473 01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:25.920 what fan reaction would be like, and Out of World's 1474 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:27.560 two was a safe enough game that they could do 1475 01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:31.560 that and reverse decision later on. I was told that 1476 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:36.119 was too smart for Microsoft, but I really, I really 1477 01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.039 do think that that they just were kind of like, 1478 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:40.439 let's test the waters here and we can, you know, 1479 01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:44.039 save ourselves if we want, if we need to, and 1480 01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:47.800 back up on this price. And that's exactly what happened. 1481 01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:50.399 I don't think you're going to see eighty dollars from 1482 01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:52.920 first Party until Gears of War e day. Like you said, 1483 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.840 I think that's one where they can justify yes, here 1484 01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:58.279 it is new Gears of War that you've been waiting for. 1485 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:00.640 This is where we're going to go up to. Now 1486 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:02.119 they're going to have egg on their face because they 1487 01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:04.760 were like, well, why did you renegge before and now 1488 01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.319 you're going to go back to it now. And the 1489 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.880 only answer they're going to have is, well, it's Gears 1490 01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:13.920 of War, which is prime Microsoft these days just likes 1491 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.119 to put themselves back themselves in the corners they didn't 1492 01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:17.840 have to back themselves into in the first place. 1493 01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:20.640 Professional Rake Stepper Honor Company. 1494 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.439 Yeah, yes, exactly right, I think. 1495 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:26.560 But yeah, Mike, sorry, well just I think the grounded 1496 01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:29.399 version of the conspiracy theory. Yeah, I think you're onto 1497 01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.439 it there where they were they need to try it 1498 01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:34.600 with something. They needed to test the wire, you know, 1499 01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:37.560 quote nquote we need They don't have to, but they 1500 01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:40.199 needed to try it eventually for something if they're going 1501 01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:43.319 to charge more. Uh, this was not the game to 1502 01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:45.880 do it on, Like you're saying, no, that is Gears 1503 01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:47.960 of War or the next Halo or something like that. Yeah, 1504 01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:49.960 this was a weird one to try it out on. 1505 01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:52.560 But I do think that they were just trying it 1506 01:11:52.680 --> 01:11:55.479 and seeing, all right, is this going to work? Oh no, 1507 01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.439 it did not work. Pre Orders are bad and everyone 1508 01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:02.199 hates us, like take it back to Yeah, I mean it. 1509 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:07.520 It sucks to admit that there is like zero consequences 1510 01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:10.600 also of this, Like there's not someone who's like I 1511 01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:15.239 am now just never going to play the outer world, 1512 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:17.600 like you know what I mean, Like if there is, 1513 01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:20.640 that's a very small population. And the thing that sucks 1514 01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:22.720 is like you kind of can just do this now, 1515 01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:26.680 you kind of can just like you know, test defenses 1516 01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.760 a little bit and see. I think all that's really 1517 01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:33.479 netted out of this is the discovery that like you 1518 01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:36.159 can charge eighty dollars for a game, but there's a 1519 01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:40.840 there's sort of a unknown list of titles that earn 1520 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:44.880 that level of expense, right, and like it's this undefined 1521 01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:47.520 list of games, and we all will sort of like 1522 01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:50.399 figure that the market kind of will you know, decide 1523 01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:51.239 that I guess. 1524 01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:53.920 Right, And but that what this does is it, you know, 1525 01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:57.079 moves that window of like acceptable game prices even higher 1526 01:12:57.119 --> 01:12:59.880 because now because now people are like very ready to 1527 01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.720 settle on the seventy dollars price, and you know we 1528 01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:06.079 were months ago people are still like kind of complaining 1529 01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:08.119 about that, be like, yeah, seventy dollars per game, that's 1530 01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:08.680 too expensive. 1531 01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:09.159 That's done. 1532 01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:11.920 We're not having that conversation anymore. It's eighty dollars and 1533 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.079 seventy dollars is well cemented into place. 1534 01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:18.119 Exactly what it does is it just lowers the defense 1535 01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:20.279 over a long enough period of time, Yeah, where it 1536 01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:23.319 kind of just like chips away at that resistance and 1537 01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:24.640 normalizes it. 1538 01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:28.920 That's really another way, Juiff, I think you're ons on though, 1539 01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:33.119 of Like the reason there's not gonna be an effect 1540 01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:35.640 from all this, in part is people feel how they 1541 01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:39.000 feel about Microsoft right now. People are either just they 1542 01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:41.439 hate Microsoft and they want nothing to do with them. 1543 01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:44.680 I'm slowly leaning into that with all the layoffs and everything, 1544 01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:47.239 or they're just gonna play the games no matter what. 1545 01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:51.039 And so this hasn't really changed anything because that's just 1546 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:52.880 where the company is at right now. 1547 01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:56.840 Real quick, I was like speculated them on it was Gronditude. 1548 01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:58.960 Grounditude's only thirty dollars. It's in early access. 1549 01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:02.880 There's no way thanks more so so early access today. 1550 01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:03.319 Yeah. 1551 01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:05.439 Yeah, Well, I'm like, I'm gonna download it as soon 1552 01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:06.960 as we're done. Maybe try to find some way to 1553 01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:08.960 play it this week. Sean, you're gonna be around to 1554 01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:14.600 play it. No, our buddy's going to EVO. Everybody have fun. 1555 01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:18.520 Hollow Knight Silk Song will be playable at Gamescom. Xbox 1556 01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:21.560 confirms Hollow Knight's Silk Song will be playable at Gamescom 1557 01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:25.520 twenty twenty five. It was announced in twenty nineteen. I 1558 01:14:25.560 --> 01:14:30.039 think Mike played it around twenty nineteen or twenty twenty allegedly. Yeah, 1559 01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:34.600 and now yeah, it's gonna be there. This game feels 1560 01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:36.800 like it might actually come out this year. They said 1561 01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:39.720 it's coming out this year, but they've said such things before. 1562 01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:42.880 Here it is, and now people are gonna get a 1563 01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:45.039 chance to go hands on. I don't know at this point, like, 1564 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:47.640 can it live up to expectations? What do you guys 1565 01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:48.760 think the release date's gonna be. 1566 01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:53.760 The fact that it's tied to the Rock ally X 1567 01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:57.319 kind of or Rock the Xbox Rock Ally excuse me, 1568 01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:02.439 is kind of worrying. I feel like, here's the thing I. 1569 01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:05.800 Think that real quick is they made it sound like 1570 01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.640 it's tied together, but Team Cherry went on like it 1571 01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:12.159 later to say it is not like a launch game 1572 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:16.239 for the Xbox rog l i X. They definitely are associated, 1573 01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:18.800 but I don't know if tied is the right word. 1574 01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:23.439 Because they want people to think of it as a console. 1575 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:27.560 Yeah, but the does the fact that the smoking mirrors exist, 1576 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:29.840 in the fact that the game has taken so long 1577 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:32.720 to come out, there's a lot of red flags. I 1578 01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:34.640 want to be wrong. I want this game to be 1579 01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.359 as well received as the first one, but something about 1580 01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:40.840 it just is not sitting right with me. And if 1581 01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:45.119 it comes out and people are underwhelmed or just whelmed 1582 01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:49.199 instead of being, you know, crazy about this thing, I 1583 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:50.960 feel like that's going to be disappointing. 1584 01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:55.000 Yeah, I mean, it's got That's one of the reasons 1585 01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:56.880 I think it has taken so long is that people 1586 01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:00.119 making the game are well aware of how they be 1587 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.159 a disappointed follow up, and they are so used to 1588 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:04.399 the praise. They're like, man, we got to get this way, 1589 01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:05.880 we got to get this right. I do not envy 1590 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.720 any indie studio that's in that position. All like, there's 1591 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:10.479 a handful of them that like put out just banger 1592 01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:12.760 game and they're going to do the follow up, and 1593 01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:14.800 now they got to live up to that, and a 1594 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:17.199 lot of those end up taking ten years for that 1595 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:21.039 reason of Oh, those expectations must weigh heavy on their shoulders. 1596 01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:27.159 With release news expected soon, Metroid Prime four has been rated. 1597 01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:31.760 This is from Andy Robinson VGC over there he spotted 1598 01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:35.399 someone else might have spotted. The South Korea's Classification Board 1599 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:37.079 has rated Metroid Prime four. 1600 01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:40.319 Usually not always, but usually. 1601 01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:43.439 When that happens, we get the game six weeks to 1602 01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:46.159 sixteen weeks later, something that it could come out any 1603 01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:48.479 time before the end of the year is the reality here. 1604 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:50.640 But this is like signs of life. It also is 1605 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:53.319 signs that, man, they should tell us when that game's 1606 01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:56.840 coming out here relatively soon. That goes toward the rumored 1607 01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:02.119 Nintendo Direct that is supposed to happen this week. I'm 1608 01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:04.880 still hopeful for that. You know, when a Direct usually happens, 1609 01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:08.159 usually happens on like a Wednesday or Thursday. So we 1610 01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:10.479 can still get it this week, and if we do, 1611 01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.920 I fully expect them to give us the give us 1612 01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:16.960 the release date. But I'm thinking probably November, maybe December, 1613 01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:19.199 even for this game. It feels like they are going 1614 01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:21.359 full on into the year for Metro Prime four. 1615 01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:25.359 Yeah, if it's not the week before Black Friday, which 1616 01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:27.720 is a sweet spot they like to release their big 1617 01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.359 games in, it'll be I think maybe two weeks after, 1618 01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:32.840 like in that first week, second week of December sort 1619 01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:36.399 of slot there. But we do kind of have to 1620 01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:38.600 have that July Nintendo Direct soon, right, We're running out 1621 01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:44.319 of July. There's over yet to be fair, So Nate 1622 01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:46.600 the hate you have one day for an announcement. 1623 01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:47.000 If it's not. 1624 01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:50.199 If a Nintendo Direct is not announced at nine am 1625 01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:52.760 Eastern tomorrow, you may have been wrong. 1626 01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:56.319 So Nate, you have my blessing to yell at Jason 1627 01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:59.880 Nelly dip shit around the hell I said that one. 1628 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:05.159 Yeah, Hey, I'm looking forward to it. I hope he's right, 1629 01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:08.159 but you know, he's got he's got forty eight hours 1630 01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:09.000 and then he's wrong. 1631 01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:11.560 He's also not the only one. VGC has also said 1632 01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:13.960 they heard of Direct is happening. I think one's gonna happen. 1633 01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:15.600 I think the question is is going to be a 1634 01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:17.760 main Direct, a Mini or something. I don't know. 1635 01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:20.119 Yeah, yeah, there is. 1636 01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:23.800 I don't know how. What's usually the time period between 1637 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:25.000 them announcing in the direct? 1638 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:27.720 It could be like twenty four hours, right, twenty five hours. 1639 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.600 Usually they have occasionally done it where they did not 1640 01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.399 announce anything and they just released it, like Shadow dropped 1641 01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:36.479 it and that was a Nintendo Direct Mini. So it 1642 01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:37.439 could be anything. 1643 01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:37.840 Really. 1644 01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:40.680 Sometimes they've announced it two days ahead of time. Most 1645 01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:43.479 of the time usually it's about one day. So, okay, 1646 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:44.600 we'll see. 1647 01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:48.119 Speaking in twenty four hour increments, there's plenty of July left. 1648 01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:52.439 I'm just looking forward to this getting rated because that 1649 01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:55.760 said is a real product that we will have semi soon. 1650 01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:57.600 Oh, it's a real product, Sean. 1651 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.319 I can tell you that it's hard to believe. Like Derff, 1652 01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:02.960 you might not know U about me. I'm a huge 1653 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:06.279 Metroid fan. Yeah, and I've it was rough for a 1654 01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:09.239 long time there, for a solid decade. It sucked to 1655 01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:12.119 be a Metroid fan, but I'm getting the dread, not 1656 01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:15.439 not actual dread, but the Metroid dread effect all over again. 1657 01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.520 Where Oh my god, it's been so long since Prime three, y'all. 1658 01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:22.920 I was in middle school when Prime three dropped. It's 1659 01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:24.159 been that freaking. 1660 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:30.119 Long to say that, Yeah, that sucked actually for you. 1661 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:31.800 Guys and me, but I just had to put one 1662 01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:33.159 on the podcast at least once. 1663 01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:35.840 The back of my brain was like, all right, left, 1664 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:37.239 throw of the man there and then just gave up. 1665 01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:37.640 Was like. 1666 01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:44.000 Almost twenty years since Metroid Prime three came out, and 1667 01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:47.640 like waiting that long for a game that only happens 1668 01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.000 so often. So I'm so looking forward to this. 1669 01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:53.159 I don't believe you. I don't think that I don't 1670 01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:54.079 just refuse him. 1671 01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:55.399 We refuse what you just said. 1672 01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:55.760 We're just. 1673 01:19:57.239 --> 01:19:59.800 Yeah, I like Metroid too. I also think it's like, 1674 01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:03.039 you know, I guess yeah, but you're right. It's like 1675 01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:05.319 two decades go by and you're like, I haven't played 1676 01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:07.359 a substantial entry in this thing in a while. It's 1677 01:20:07.399 --> 01:20:11.399 like even is it even real anymore? It just Metro 1678 01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:15.119 Prime and Metro Prime three. I guess two did not 1679 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.199 stick with me. In the way that one in three 1680 01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:18.600 did is weird. 1681 01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:21.199 It's it's not as good as the one for sure. Yeah, 1682 01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:22.880 I yeah, I'm with you, Sean. 1683 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.199 I I doesn't sound like I'm as much of a 1684 01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:28.239 sicko as you are, but I certainly am looking forward 1685 01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:28.439 to this. 1686 01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:29.039 Uh. 1687 01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:30.960 And also for the fact that, like Dan has it 1688 01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:32.840 on his Fantasy Critics. 1689 01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.560 So sweet, he's got his counterpick, so he thinks it's 1690 01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:37.479 not going out this year. 1691 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:42.039 Yeah, I mean as someone who completely borked their counterpick 1692 01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:47.239 as well this year, and also having six. 1693 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:50.600 I counterpicked GT six. My I'm the one who's counter 1694 01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:52.199 who's crazy counterpick actually worked out? 1695 01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:54.000 Yeah, you're the smart guy all along. 1696 01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:00.279 Hey, I drafted GTA six and unnamed third three D 1697 01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.319 Mario Platform or he got right. 1698 01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:06.640 So Mike had the number one pick and he picked 1699 01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:10.560 unnamed three D Mario Platform with the first pick. He 1700 01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:12.279 was that confident you work out. 1701 01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:15.039 Nicky called us all idiots for not picking Mario Kart 1702 01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:18.159 after World came out. God, glad I didn't pick Mario Carrall. 1703 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:21.079 It's probably not as high as it we thought it 1704 01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:21.640 would have been. 1705 01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:22.039 It was. 1706 01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:25.560 I think it's like high eighty still, right, don't get 1707 01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:25.840 me wrong. 1708 01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:28.600 It's maybe getting points, but you're not getting all the points. 1709 01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:28.840 Yeah. 1710 01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:31.359 It wasn't like a ninety five like we thought. 1711 01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:33.920 Yeah, it's not a first that's not a first round 1712 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:35.319 draft performance. 1713 01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:35.239 That you got. 1714 01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:37.479 We got to do an update on the draft here. 1715 01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:40.039 Sometimes we do eighty seven. 1716 01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:43.840 By the way, for Mario kartt World's high. I think 1717 01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:45.800 it's still more than my pick. I think I picked 1718 01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:48.159 Doom and that flopped for me as well. 1719 01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:51.720 So for all losers and all I all I do 1720 01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:53.960 looking at my list is like, where are the games 1721 01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:56.039 that I've picked, Like, where are they coming out? 1722 01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:59.680 What is their story? Give me give us one? What 1723 01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:01.479 is and you are you looking at it? Like what's on? 1724 01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.520 Officially it's like, you know, skate story I'm not expecting, 1725 01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:10.760 but it's like, I'm very obsessed with this little game 1726 01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:14.159 that speaks to me in ways that I can't really 1727 01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:18.680 put into words. It's coming out this year, yes, uh 1728 01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:21.640 you know, so, I'm And then you know Silent Hill 1729 01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:23.960 f that's got a date, right, that's got over. 1730 01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:26.119 I think God that was Yeah, that's wild that they 1731 01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:28.520 dated that. Yeah, I'm still not it comes like that. 1732 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:30.039 Selling Hill Too just came out last year, and they 1733 01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:31.359 already have Selling Hill f ready to go. 1734 01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:34.640 While yeah, all right, let's keep going here. 1735 01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:38.479 H Io has hidden its entire not safer work Games library, 1736 01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:42.680 and then some as payment product providers pressure stores. Uh, 1737 01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:46.319 this is the ongoing story. Happened with Valve and Steam 1738 01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:48.920 last week. Steam seem to be a little bit more 1739 01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:54.640 capable of picking the offending games that were that sort 1740 01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:57.880 of broke the rules set down by payment process payment 1741 01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:03.079 processors who have been influenced by these anti porn crusader groups. 1742 01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:07.119 I think in Australia or from somewhere wherever, and so 1743 01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:08.960 Valve was able to just pick a few games get 1744 01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:10.960 them off the store, and I think they're probably gonna 1745 01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:14.000 take down more games as this goes along. Itch did 1746 01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:17.279 not seem to have this internal capacity to like pick 1747 01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:20.720 and choose, so any game that was tagged with adult 1748 01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:23.920 at all was removed from the store. And I said, 1749 01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:25.640 they'll try to bring back as many games as they can, 1750 01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.880 but they also said for sure some games won't be 1751 01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:32.399 coming back. This is sort of just the way some 1752 01:23:32.800 --> 01:23:37.199 of these things go, where these very you know, insular 1753 01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:41.600 groups can go to these processing companies and demand that 1754 01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:44.319 they don't allow their technology to be used to purchase 1755 01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:48.399 certain things, and I don't. I think these are relatively 1756 01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:51.800 conservative companies in all senses of the word conservative, where 1757 01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:55.000 they're like, you know, politically conservative, but also conservative in 1758 01:23:55.119 --> 01:23:57.520 terms of decision making and not wanting to take any 1759 01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:01.279 risks or not wanting to get the headline of oh, 1760 01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:05.680 MasterCard is a porn pro porn group or whatever, and 1761 01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.920 so they're like, whatever, we'll just do this, leave us alone, 1762 01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:11.640 and now here we are you cannot use I guess 1763 01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:13.520 you can't. It's not that you can't use your master card. 1764 01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:15.199 It's like you cannot make one of these games and 1765 01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:18.920 then make money on Steam and Hio anymore because someone 1766 01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:22.119 might use a visa or a MasterCard to make that 1767 01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:26.640 purchase and that has been disallowed. It seems like it's 1768 01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:29.000 going to keep spreading too, Like they started with Valve, 1769 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:31.399 they went here and it's like okay, they're going to 1770 01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:33.960 just move on to the next target. And of course 1771 01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.039 it's like you say, I don't buy porn games. It's 1772 01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:39.079 affecting all kinds of games. There was one that was 1773 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:43.000 just like a joke on adulting, and that got taken 1774 01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:45.560 down because they had the word adult in it. And 1775 01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:50.279 it's going to as always, you know, the stated goal 1776 01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:53.800 is we are going after these deviants and their pornography 1777 01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:57.880 and the underlying you know, dog whistle, but it's so 1778 01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:01.079 loud it barely qualifies as a dog. So they're going 1779 01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:02.760 after LGBTQ people. 1780 01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:05.600 And the good news here. 1781 01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:07.920 The one side of the story that is similar bright 1782 01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:10.279 is it seems like a lot of people who considered 1783 01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:14.119 consider themselves gamers hate this, and they are calling up 1784 01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:16.239 the credit card companies and trying to tie up their 1785 01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:19.039 phone lines with complaints about this, trying to fight back 1786 01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:22.119 against it. And it's like if there is one group, 1787 01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:25.079 one sort of a group of consumers that knows how 1788 01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:27.720 to get loud and annoying, it's gamers. And so I'm 1789 01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:30.039 like feeling a little hopeful that they can get in 1790 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:32.760 the ass of these companies and maybe change the way 1791 01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.359 that this is being handled, because it's happened in other place, 1792 01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:38.640 It's happened like OnlyFans definitely got targeted before things like that, 1793 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:43.399 So hopefully that the fight can maybe end here and 1794 01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:45.479 some pushback and some sanity can return. 1795 01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:51.760 But yeah, I've only been kind of anecdotally following this story, 1796 01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:53.680 and I don't know if you are if you have 1797 01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:56.399 the appetite to unpack it and sort of every company 1798 01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:58.600 to do it. I heard like Hassan talking about it 1799 01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:03.119 a little bit. What is the driving force? Like what 1800 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.760 and and how are they able to manifest this amount 1801 01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:07.680 of influence. 1802 01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:12.039 So it's an Australian group called a collective shout right, yes, 1803 01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:15.079 and they are. I think they're just very good at 1804 01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:17.119 getting the ear of these companies. How they're able to 1805 01:26:17.159 --> 01:26:18.760 do that, I think it was something we're still not 1806 01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:19.359 sure about. 1807 01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:22.239 But that's my question, right, because all of these freaky 1808 01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:25.960 groups are out there, But like it's the power, it's 1809 01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:28.600 the influence that I'm like not clear about. 1810 01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:31.600 My guest, My guess would be it's like like there's 1811 01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:34.439 someone connected at a group like this that knows how 1812 01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:38.239 to get a hold of like you're not necessarily a lobbyist, 1813 01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:41.239 but knows how that process works and is able to 1814 01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:44.479 get the ear of someone important at MasterCard and Visa 1815 01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.439 and things like that. And it probably does come from 1816 01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:50.800 like the world of lobbying and religious lobbying, but I 1817 01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:51.520 don't know for sure. 1818 01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:55.439 Well, I remember reading that there was some far right 1819 01:26:55.520 --> 01:27:00.840 wing Chrysto Christo nationalist aka crysto fascist groups uh that 1820 01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:06.159 were providing access or money or something to this Australian group, 1821 01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:08.560 and the Australian group was just the mouthpiece, right, because 1822 01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:11.720 that's how this ship works. You get someone who was 1823 01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:14.239 willing here we go, Jeff, there's you get someone who 1824 01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:17.279 is willing to be the voice for this, and you 1825 01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:20.119 have all these cowards in the background who just throw 1826 01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:22.840 the money because they know they'll do what they want 1827 01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:25.319 them to do. This is the same thing that happened 1828 01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:30.640 back when the FCC declared radio and television wasn't covered 1829 01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:34.520 because some priest in Mississippi decided he didn't want to 1830 01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:36.159 hear what was on the radio, and instead of just 1831 01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:38.920 turning the fucking thing off, he decided that everybody else 1832 01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:41.000 had to be like him and no different than that. 1833 01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:43.640 And he's the same playbook over and over. It's about 1834 01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:44.039 the kids. 1835 01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:47.600 It's the kids, the kids. No, No, it's because you 1836 01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:50.239 don't want to be inconvenience and have to teach your 1837 01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:51.520 kids if you don't want them to. 1838 01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:54.359 They just got done er off to this stuff and 1839 01:27:56.479 --> 01:28:00.560 they got to go everyone else's problems. They're like, we 1840 01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:01.640 know what's going on here? 1841 01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:06.600 Yeah, I mean yeah, My my thing is, get the 1842 01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:08.560 fuck out of them, Get the fuck out of here. 1843 01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:11.640 Leave us alone. Man, We're not messing with you. We're 1844 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:14.600 not We're not messing We're not messing with you. And 1845 01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:16.640 the fact that anytime you go out and talk about 1846 01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:18.960 how much you love Jesus, you are, if you want 1847 01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:23.239 to get into it, disobeying his words in the Bible themselves. 1848 01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:24.840 I have receipts people. 1849 01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:29.159 Pretty nasty piece of literature. Also, if you're really sure. 1850 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:35.159 And the people sh yeah, the people who love to 1851 01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:38.640 say that they're you know, protecting kids and the moral, 1852 01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:41.880 the moral, the minority, or whatever the hell they call themselves, 1853 01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:46.199 can just fuck right off. Mind your own business. Let 1854 01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:49.159 people do what they want to do in the privacy 1855 01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:51.279 of their own if they're not hurting anybody, if no 1856 01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:54.560 one's being hurt, and they are kids sending adultstery, kids 1857 01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:56.560 sending of things on their own time with their own money, 1858 01:28:56.840 --> 01:28:58.359 leave them the fuck alone. 1859 01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:03.920 That's my two CENTI No, no, absolutely on topic like this, Jason, 1860 01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:07.800 because like that's the problem is that they see people 1861 01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:12.119 existing different from them and they just can't allow that 1862 01:29:12.279 --> 01:29:15.199 because that is in their mind twisted from what morality 1863 01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:17.720 should be. And that's the way biggots always are. They 1864 01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:20.520 see someone who is different from themselves and they say 1865 01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:24.279 this cannot be allowed to stand. And that is fucked 1866 01:29:24.359 --> 01:29:27.560 up because the hilarious thing in all of this is 1867 01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:32.439 that these absolute morons on the Internet have been whiny 1868 01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:35.680 and bitching about like censorship. This censorship that when like, 1869 01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:38.079 you know, a game gets localized in way to like 1870 01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:40.439 cover up an underage girl or something like that. But 1871 01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:45.359 this is literal censorship. This is an outside force saying 1872 01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.399 you can't have this thing because someone didn't like the 1873 01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.520 way that was presented, or they're trying to force values 1874 01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:55.680 on you. And I'm glad to see that people are 1875 01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:58.279 getting loud and angry about this, because this is the 1876 01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:00.439 kind of thing that we actually need need to get 1877 01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:02.359 loud and angry about it. I know, you know, I'm 1878 01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:05.520 often maybe even a little heavy hand in saying, man, 1879 01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:08.000 shut the fuck up and just enjoy video games, but like, 1880 01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:10.319 this is the thing. This is the reason I say 1881 01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:13.560 bathe your anger and your energy, because this is the 1882 01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:16.760 thing we need to get loud, vocal, and angry about 1883 01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:20.239 because otherwise it's gonna be a snowball effect. And you know, 1884 01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:22.359 first it's like oh, we're just getting rid of the porn. 1885 01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:25.399 It's like, oh no, we're getting rid of the porn 1886 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.920 related to queer people. Then we're getting rid of queer people. 1887 01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:32.000 And it's just it all flows from that bigoted point. 1888 01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:36.039 Of view that is a that to me is obviously 1889 01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:39.199 the troubling thing is the slippery slope stuff and and 1890 01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:41.159 just calling it out for what it is and not 1891 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:43.840 this you know, bullshit excuse up front of like, oh 1892 01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:45.960 we're doing this trying to avoid some kind of content. 1893 01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:49.960 It's rough. It's wow. We are just we're just following 1894 01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:53.319 the Dystopian playbook page by over and over and over. 1895 01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:55.960 We're like we saw a Vfa Vendett and we're like, oh, 1896 01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:59.199 let's do this part like right now, that one part. 1897 01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:02.600 Yeah, you know, it's it's insane. What a fucking night 1898 01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:03.600 are yep? 1899 01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:03.920 Yeah. 1900 01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:07.239 These people just want to punish others because it's they 1901 01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:10.000 see other people enjoying aspects of themselves that they hate 1902 01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:12.640 about themselves, Like this thing is inside me and I'm 1903 01:31:12.680 --> 01:31:14.199 ashamed of it and I hate it, and they see 1904 01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.199 it in other people and they're celebrating, they're prideful about it, 1905 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:17.399 and they want to punish them and. 1906 01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:21.880 Uh, yeah, that's that is It's sick and we gotta stop. 1907 01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:24.680 It here because it will just keep continuing if we don't. Uh. 1908 01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:30.079 Sony South Tencent claiming its Light of Motoram game is 1909 01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:33.640 a slavish clone of its Horizon series, and I don't know, 1910 01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:35.319 let me just take a look at this thing. Oh 1911 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:39.039 my god, that's just Horizon. Uh. This is one of 1912 01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:41.760 another instances of this, but this one feels even more 1913 01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:44.279 egregious than a lot of the other instances of this, 1914 01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:48.279 so much so that Sony said that a couple of 1915 01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:52.119 years ago and twenty twenty three, ten Cent began developing 1916 01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:54.439 the Light of Motoram and then came to Sony and said, hey, 1917 01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:57.920 can we license Horizon because we're all pready making a 1918 01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:00.640 Horizon game. Would you mind if we just borrowed the 1919 01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:03.560 IP for a bit, And Sony said no, tense, it 1920 01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:07.039 kept making the game and now they're promoting it and 1921 01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:10.319 if you look at it, it's just the red haired 1922 01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:16.279 lady from the Horizon. It's so not funny that it's hilarious. 1923 01:32:16.439 --> 01:32:20.720 It's yes, I remember the game as Mornings, where you 1924 01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:23.119 like first talked about this story like a while back. 1925 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:25.199 It was either you're the host. Grub was just like 1926 01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:27.199 I saw this on a timeline this morning and thought 1927 01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:29.359 a new Horizon got announced. 1928 01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:31.159 The show. 1929 01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:31.880 It's nuts. 1930 01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:34.359 Show me this sketch of this where it's like, oh, 1931 01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:39.720 what they've got animal mech Walker's too. Oh yeah, they 1932 01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:43.119 called them mechanimals animals. 1933 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.399 The only thing this game is missing is that the 1934 01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:50.800 name Light of Motoram or whatever the name is, isn't 1935 01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:53.640 an anagram of Horizon zero down. Yeah, that's the only 1936 01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.199 thing that would make this better if they just rearrange 1937 01:32:56.239 --> 01:32:58.000 the letters to make a different name. Like, what what 1938 01:32:58.079 --> 01:32:59.760 do they think they did? You think we're dumb? 1939 01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:00.600 Do they do? 1940 01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:02.199 They do they think we don't have? Yeah? I guess 1941 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:02.399 they do. 1942 01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:08.000 I was trying there, Yeah, I was. 1943 01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:10.439 I was sort of on the fence, like because people 1944 01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:13.640 say that derivative games sometimes become their own thing, and 1945 01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:15.840 I was like, yeah, but this is even in that 1946 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:18.760 first image, this is very very close. And then we 1947 01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:21.560 find out that they actually pitched it. We're told no, 1948 01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:23.439 and we're like a few, We're gonna do it anyway. 1949 01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:27.039 Come on, guys, this isn't even like Palow World, where 1950 01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:29.319 at least Power World has its own like gameplay style 1951 01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:31.439 and everything they were going for. If they're rip off designs, 1952 01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:34.119 this is Krack and Yoshi, the you know, the urban 1953 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:36.840 legend all over again. 1954 01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:37.159 Man. 1955 01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:38.960 They're just like, hey, well if we pitch this, no, 1956 01:33:39.359 --> 01:33:41.520 we'll make our own with black chack and hookers. You know. 1957 01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:44.640 This is why. I mean, they didn't even choose a 1958 01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:47.159 different color palette. No, No, they. 1959 01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:54.000 Agree looks like literal Yeah veg or VG twenty four 1960 01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:56.600 to seven has a if you like Google image search 1961 01:33:56.640 --> 01:33:58.560 for a light of motor amy. Scrolled down a little bit, 1962 01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:01.119 there's comparisons between the two key arts that are just 1963 01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:02.960 like beat for beat, exactly the same. 1964 01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:08.880 It's yeah, I mean, I get being inspired by something, 1965 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:10.640 but you got to change it else. The teacher is 1966 01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:12.159 going to know you copyed the homework. Bro. 1967 01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:17.800 Yeah, really real obvious here. I mean, so what is 1968 01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:19.880 the suit result in I don't know. 1969 01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:23.000 I mean, I think any jury, any judge, is gonna 1970 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:26.680 look at this and go, clearly they copied you. Is 1971 01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:28.760 that they copy you in an a legal way. It's 1972 01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:31.960 going to be different by country, So I'm not sure 1973 01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:33.920 what the result will be here. I bet that they 1974 01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:36.760 do find some way to come to a conclusion and 1975 01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:39.159 maybe this game gets canceled or if it is forced 1976 01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:42.520 to legally change a certain percentage of how it presents, 1977 01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:45.479 But I don't know. I'm also like at a certain point, 1978 01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:48.520 like this is it's embarrassing, Like I would never want 1979 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:50.760 to be someone who did this myself. But if this 1980 01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:52.600 thing existed, I don't I don't know how much of 1981 01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:55.840 a real threat it is to Horizon, although I say 1982 01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:58.439 that and then maybe two years from now becomes one 1983 01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:00.640 of those one of the biggest game in the world. 1984 01:35:01.479 --> 01:35:04.800 The way that what is the Mijoyo game Sean the 1985 01:35:06.159 --> 01:35:06.800 Breath of the Wild? 1986 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:10.439 Yes, yeah, get you. Yeah. That's also the thing is 1987 01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:14.039 that this regardless of what this game is, unless it 1988 01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:16.479 is a sixty dollars game the release hand Steam, which 1989 01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:20.159 I'd imagine it's not. I'd imagine some free to play 1990 01:35:21.279 --> 01:35:25.079 costume driven gotscha driven something. They were never going to 1991 01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:28.239 exist in the same world. It's just you can't rip 1992 01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:30.880 off the art in that way. And so it's definitely 1993 01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:33.000 what you said, some judge somewhere is gonna have to 1994 01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:35.319 be like, all right, you guys need to sell this. 1995 01:35:35.479 --> 01:35:37.720 Here's the percentage I'm tossing out there of what you 1996 01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:38.399 need to change. 1997 01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:43.039 Yes, as someone someone no, go ahead, Jason. As someone 1998 01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:46.960 points out in chat, this will be the mobile Legends 1999 01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:50.279 Bang Bang to Horizon zero Dolin's League of Legends. That 2000 01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:51.640 is a perfect analogy. 2001 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:55.720 Yes, exactly when they went to Sony in what was it, 2002 01:35:57.640 --> 01:36:01.319 four three, twenty twenty four. Yes, when they went to well, 2003 01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:02.079 Sony was like. 2004 01:36:02.439 --> 01:36:06.159 Uh no, and also, don't do that, Like did they 2005 01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:13.119 say that? I would assume it probably did. Have you one, Yeah, 2006 01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:16.239 well we have you on the phone. Cease and desist, 2007 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:20.760 Like I don't understand, like did they how did that? 2008 01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:25.720 How did that back and forth end? They probably because 2009 01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:27.720 it probably is like one side of the call is like, hey, 2010 01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:30.439 we're not going to give you the license, and then 2011 01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:32.680 they just assumed it would be understood at that point. 2012 01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:35.479 So now you can't make this game that you've showed us. 2013 01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:37.800 You are not allowed to do that anymore. And maybe 2014 01:36:37.880 --> 01:36:40.680 ten Cent's like okay, all right, cool and hangs up. 2015 01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:42.720 It's like we're going to do this anyhow. It probably 2016 01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:45.800 went like that, which is another wild aspect of this. 2017 01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:49.880 But yeah, I don't know, I'm curious. I kind of 2018 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:51.680 want to see what it plays like. I don't know 2019 01:36:51.680 --> 01:36:53.720 if there's been video out there or anything like that, but. 2020 01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:56.479 I haven't that that cease and desist doesn't bother me 2021 01:36:56.560 --> 01:36:58.199 because I can't read it. I'm just gonna do it. 2022 01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:02.279 All right. 2023 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:05.840 Tatari has agreed to acquire Thunderful for around four point 2024 01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:09.359 five million Euro, which is about five million dollars. The 2025 01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:12.319 deal subject to shareholder approval, with a vote scheduled for 2026 01:37:12.439 --> 01:37:17.680 late August. This expands Atari's European publishing and development capabilities. 2027 01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:22.359 Thunderfold is known for steam World, but they've also published 2028 01:37:22.359 --> 01:37:24.960 a bunch of games. They did that Viewfinder game that 2029 01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:31.479 someone else made publish right that is a company. Thunderful 2030 01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:34.720 has had a lot of successful games, but they've also 2031 01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:37.079 hit a rough patch recent I think they had a 2032 01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:39.119 bunch of layoffs. Yea, okay, a fifth of their staff 2033 01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:41.920 was laid off after what they called over investment. They 2034 01:37:41.960 --> 01:37:44.319 did the thing everyone else did, had a bunch of money, 2035 01:37:44.319 --> 01:37:47.520 a bunch of cheap money out of the pandemic, and 2036 01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:50.000 then ended up investing a ton of that and not 2037 01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:52.920 many of those bets hit and now here they are. 2038 01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:56.640 Five million does feel a little bit low for a 2039 01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.199 kind of a decent sized publisher. So I think things 2040 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:02.760 are probably pretty rough there. Did they also do that 2041 01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:13.399 game from the play Dead Person Summerville? I'm sorry. 2042 01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:17.760 In twenty twenty two, they acquired jump Ship, the creator. 2043 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:22.000 Who did Okay, okay. My My thing about this is 2044 01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:27.239 I'm hoping Atari is practicing a little bit of h 2045 01:38:28.520 --> 01:38:30.720 They're holding themselves back a little bit here and not 2046 01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:33.840 embracing old trends. If you understand what I'm saying. 2047 01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:36.720 Yeah, yeah, but go ahead, right. 2048 01:38:37.039 --> 01:38:39.319 That's an extreme case, don't get me wrong, But like 2049 01:38:39.399 --> 01:38:43.600 I feel like every couple of months, in a certain cadence, 2050 01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:46.399 we hear about one of these acquisitions Digital Eclipse in 2051 01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:48.399 Nighttive being the more recent ones, that I would hate 2052 01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:53.640 for Atari to be the next test case of acquisitions 2053 01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:57.479 and mergers going berserk like we had in that situation. Granted, 2054 01:38:57.600 --> 01:38:59.880 four and a half million euros five point one nine 2055 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:04.840 million dollars not a huge investment, but I don't know. 2056 01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:08.319 I Ever since Embracer, I hear M and A are 2057 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:10.960 one company doing a lot of acquisitions, and I start 2058 01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:14.039 to get antsy. So I just hope that they're they're 2059 01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:15.479 figuring they have it all figured out. 2060 01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:19.159 Yeah, it's and I should point out Atari acquired eighty 2061 01:39:19.239 --> 01:39:22.640 two percent of the Thunderful group. Actually not the entirety 2062 01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:26.439 of it, but yeah, you're right, I do think that 2063 01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:29.399 like I could, I could see the strategy still with Atari, 2064 01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:32.359 right where with Embracer when they were making all those acquisitions, 2065 01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:35.199 we were all like, why what are you doing with 2066 01:39:35.279 --> 01:39:35.479 all this? 2067 01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:38.119 This is a lot of stuff. What's the plan? Hey? 2068 01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:41.199 Can hey Winger? First it was the name of the 2069 01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:44.319 CEO is last Lars Lars Winger? First, Can I have 2070 01:39:44.399 --> 01:39:46.640 an interview so I can ask you the question why 2071 01:39:46.680 --> 01:39:48.960 are you doing this? And he never respotted, never got 2072 01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:50.600 an answer, and they never ever want to let me 2073 01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:54.119 interview that guy. I think in this case, like night 2074 01:39:54.199 --> 01:39:57.159 Dive limited run games, they also acquired them, right is 2075 01:39:57.199 --> 01:39:59.560 that is that right? Or maybe maybe I mixed that up. 2076 01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:01.800 They definitely acquire night Dive like they a little bit 2077 01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:03.079 run for Embracer. 2078 01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:04.119 Okay, that's right. 2079 01:40:04.159 --> 01:40:07.279 That was the Embracer like for Atari, like their stated 2080 01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:08.880 goal for the last couple of years was like, we 2081 01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:12.680 are going to really play in the retro throwback space, 2082 01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:16.239 and so you know, a night Dive acquisition made a 2083 01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:18.880 lot of sense. Then be like, okay, now we're acquiring 2084 01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:22.399 a Thunderfold to help us with our publishing in Europe 2085 01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:24.960 and say, Okay, that just feels like a natural extension 2086 01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:27.680 of what they're already doing. I think if it continues, 2087 01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:29.720 if snowballs, it starts going in a direction where I 2088 01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:32.640 can't even begin to fathom the reason why they made 2089 01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:35.000 the acquisition, I would worry. But for now I'm like, Okay, 2090 01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:37.479 this still feels like an atari that has an idea 2091 01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:39.479 of what it wants to be and it's just trying 2092 01:40:39.479 --> 01:40:41.760 to execute on that. But we'll see. 2093 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:43.119 Uh. 2094 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:48.359 Okay, last handful of stories here. Following Suicide Squad's flop, 2095 01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:52.439 Warner Brothers is hiring for another live service game. Warner 2096 01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:54.880 Brothers Games is hiring for a new live service game 2097 01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:58.920 despite the commercial and critical failure of Suicide Squad Killed 2098 01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:01.880 the Justice League. The job listing for an executive producer 2099 01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:05.359 role specifies leading the development of a high quality triple 2100 01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:07.920 A game based on one of its iconic ips from 2101 01:41:07.960 --> 01:41:11.239 the vast Warner Brothers in DC Comics catalog, with the 2102 01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:14.760 role including overseeing all phases of development from concept to 2103 01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:18.359 post launch live operations. To suggest they continued to push 2104 01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:20.880 for live service although you know it could be on 2105 01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:23.920 anywhere on a spectrum of various live service capabilities for 2106 01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:27.119 any game. So maybe it's not a full on suicide squad. 2107 01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:30.000 It could be something smaller that has live service elements 2108 01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:30.239 to it. 2109 01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:32.279 Yeah. 2110 01:41:32.359 --> 01:41:34.840 They I say that to be like, oh, maybe they're 2111 01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:36.600 not going all in on another one of these. But 2112 01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:40.159 I think after Harry Potter did really well that Hogwarts Legacy, 2113 01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:43.560 they were talking in like Earning's calls about how the 2114 01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:46.920 next Harry Potter that game needs to be live service. 2115 01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:50.520 After Hogwarts Legacy made like all the money in the world, 2116 01:41:50.680 --> 01:41:53.159 so even when they have a massive success, they were 2117 01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:54.920 still like eyeing over there, like we still want to 2118 01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:57.680 just be doing live service. This feels like it's part 2119 01:41:57.720 --> 01:41:59.640 of that where they're like, we are just going to 2120 01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:01.680 keep going in that space. But I ask you guys, like, 2121 01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:04.840 what thing do they have that would be a good 2122 01:42:04.880 --> 01:42:07.840 fit for this or does that just not fit for 2123 01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:09.960 how you guys want to play games anyhouse you don't answer, 2124 01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:11.279 I have an idea. 2125 01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:15.439 How about they make a free to play platform fighter 2126 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.399 with a bunch of their ips and an all star 2127 01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:22.520 cast in a genre that the big one went away 2128 01:42:23.239 --> 01:42:25.319 Smash Brothers. So they could just go right in and 2129 01:42:25.479 --> 01:42:28.960 fill that vacuum, and everything would be great. You could 2130 01:42:28.960 --> 01:42:33.640 have characters from DC Comics and Scooby Doo and and 2131 01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:37.560 all the other WB franchises that you don't even think about. Hey, hey, 2132 01:42:37.960 --> 01:42:41.399 that basketball player was in space jam. Maybe Lebron doing 2133 01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:42.359 what's he doing? 2134 01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:44.680 Maybe he could do that? 2135 01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:47.239 I don't know, I don't know. Maybe I should give 2136 01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:50.359 Hadad and Zaslav a call and see if they would 2137 01:42:50.359 --> 01:42:54.199 be open to this idea exactly what they were looking for? 2138 01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:56.720 Sorry, what the hell are they? 2139 01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:58.920 What the hell are they looking for? Like? Do they 2140 01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:03.920 not know live service can be things like multi Versus 2141 01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:06.079 that is, you know, yeah, we just trickle out a 2142 01:43:06.119 --> 01:43:08.760 little bit of content. We reap easy, you know, a 2143 01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:11.359 couple million every you know, like a month or two. 2144 01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:14.520 What do they think it needs to be? Is kind 2145 01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:17.039 of why I'm wondering. Are they looking at old examples 2146 01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:18.520 like MMOs like World of. 2147 01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:19.119 War crafts on? 2148 01:43:19.199 --> 01:43:22.039 Are they looking at Fortnite? I'd assume that a Fortnite 2149 01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:26.439 butte That's what multi Versus was, So I'm not sure 2150 01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:28.840 what the hell they're looking for here? 2151 01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:32.479 They I don't They just want make money now, they 2152 01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:35.720 want line go up, and they're gonna throw ideas and 2153 01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:39.640 more importantly, people at the wall until something or someone 2154 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.359 or whatever sticks and it's infuriating. 2155 01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:46.920 Well, you'll get you'll get money from me if you 2156 01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:53.039 take all of the legacy adult Swim properties and smash 2157 01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:57.119 them up into a live service. Figure out a way 2158 01:43:57.159 --> 01:44:00.880 for me to like space Ghost and Aquitine with the 2159 01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:06.840 brac and uh, you know Harvey bird Man and right like, 2160 01:44:07.880 --> 01:44:10.119 figure that out and I'll give you a couple of dollars. 2161 01:44:11.039 --> 01:44:15.319 Sure, Yeah, I would love to see that. I think 2162 01:44:16.079 --> 01:44:17.680 the things we're talking about's yes, stuff I would like 2163 01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:19.119 to see. I don't know if Warner Brothers is interested 2164 01:44:19.199 --> 01:44:21.479 in any of this, and them trying to make like 2165 01:44:21.880 --> 01:44:26.039 the online live service Hogwarts legacy game. Bet that is 2166 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:28.279 not going to be what those people who bought that 2167 01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:28.800 game want. 2168 01:44:29.279 --> 01:44:33.119 And yeah, I was just thinking, remember Harry Potter Wizards 2169 01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:36.359 Unite by any chance? Yeah, yeah, when they're like, hey, 2170 01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:39.319 Pokemon go, that's a big thing. Let's make Harry Potter 2171 01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:44.319 Pokemon go. And just nobody gave a ship so Pickman. 2172 01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:47.640 The Pickman Bloom game lasted longer than that Harry Potter one, 2173 01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:48.720 but it's also probably. 2174 01:44:48.439 --> 01:44:49.239 A cheaper license. 2175 01:44:49.880 --> 01:44:53.159 Also still going, isn't it, Yes, all the time. 2176 01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:56.279 Lord of the Rings they own Lord of the Rings too. 2177 01:44:56.319 --> 01:45:00.720 Right, No, the Lord of the Rings was Embracer Group. 2178 01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:02.640 Embracer Oh, I thought. 2179 01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:05.520 Embrace that's right, Yeah, Embrace. 2180 01:45:07.640 --> 01:45:07.960 From them. 2181 01:45:08.199 --> 01:45:09.119 They might have bought it from them. 2182 01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:11.960 Yeah, I can't remember, but that has an MMO already, 2183 01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:13.760 that Lord of the Rings online, which is still going 2184 01:45:13.800 --> 01:45:16.239 strong after what twenty years maybe more. 2185 01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:17.920 That was my first thought, is like they could do 2186 01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:20.520 some like DC Universe online. But then I'm like, eh, 2187 01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:23.319 the era of making an MMO like that, like it 2188 01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:27.279 was more sustainable when like graphics could be lower fidelity 2189 01:45:27.319 --> 01:45:29.720 and everything like that. So I don't know if that's 2190 01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:31.640 a that's something that don't want to do anymore. 2191 01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:34.039 All right, enough of that. 2192 01:45:34.159 --> 01:45:36.279 I got the Fight Boys here, so YU tell me 2193 01:45:36.319 --> 01:45:39.600 about the Flex Strike from PlayStation It is their fight 2194 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:43.000 stick coming to twenty twenty six. Don't think we got 2195 01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:46.520 a price, right, but you are people are gonna be 2196 01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:48.079 able to go hands on with this thing at EVO. 2197 01:45:48.239 --> 01:45:48.560 Correct? 2198 01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:48.960 Yep? 2199 01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:53.000 Apparently not if you read If you read the blog, 2200 01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:55.760 it says that the only place it's going to be 2201 01:45:55.920 --> 01:45:58.760 at EVO is at the end of their museum in 2202 01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:00.439 a case so you can look at it, and you 2203 01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:02.000 can look at the carrying case that comes with it. 2204 01:46:02.079 --> 01:46:04.159 If you read the PlayStation blog, unless I've read that wrong, 2205 01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:07.479 it is just gonna be in the in the display case. 2206 01:46:07.600 --> 01:46:09.479 In the If you're not familiar with Evo, they have 2207 01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:12.279 a museum section which is full of half artwork from 2208 01:46:12.359 --> 01:46:16.479 famous fighting game related artists and half fight sticks through 2209 01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:18.560 the years. And it's just case after case of old 2210 01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:21.479 fight sticks, like old arcade panels and stuff like that. 2211 01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:24.159 And apparently the end of this is going to be 2212 01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:27.279 this Flex Strike with a little preview coming in twenty 2213 01:46:27.359 --> 01:46:28.279 twenty six, what have you. 2214 01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:31.720 That's so much sense. That also makes so much sense 2215 01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:35.159 because like the museum is basically Mark Man's closet and 2216 01:46:35.720 --> 01:46:40.640 he's working on the Flex Strike or like like you know, 2217 01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:43.680 it's Evo, it's Sony, it's Mark and everything, like it 2218 01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:45.319 makes sense for it to be there. At least. Yeah, 2219 01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:48.159 I hope they at least have like a demo station 2220 01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:52.119 with protype. Maybe it's not proto type ready. Maybe it's 2221 01:46:52.119 --> 01:46:54.279 a little further out than we think because. 2222 01:46:55.359 --> 01:46:57.760 Render, right, we saw the render in the in the 2223 01:46:57.960 --> 01:46:58.520 trailer for that. 2224 01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:00.720 Maybe they will really just have Hell already a go, 2225 01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:02.600 and that's why it's going to a museum, but we 2226 01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:04.920 can't get hands on when like people are playing token 2227 01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:05.399 and stuff. 2228 01:47:06.199 --> 01:47:08.079 Right, I think this is going to launch day and 2229 01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:11.399 date with Marvel Token. I really do think. I think 2230 01:47:11.399 --> 01:47:12.840 the two of them are going to count, maybe even 2231 01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:16.039 in one scenario bundled together where the flex Strike has 2232 01:47:16.079 --> 01:47:19.119 special Marvel Token designs on it or something like that, 2233 01:47:19.640 --> 01:47:21.359 kind of like how the Razor keats and A had 2234 01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:23.319 the Akuma one and the Cami one and the chun 2235 01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:25.920 Lee one, where if you get it together, they didn't 2236 01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:27.680 come with the game, the Razor didn't, but in this case, 2237 01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:30.920 if they if you buy them together, the stick will 2238 01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:32.880 have special artwork. I think that makes a lot of sense. 2239 01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:37.079 But I think it looks cool aut it. I think 2240 01:47:37.079 --> 01:47:39.319 it's it's the first wireless one. Right. People were wondering 2241 01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:43.640 why PlayStation was licensing a wall. Yeah, there was a 2242 01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:46.199 comment somebody made, well, this is why PlayStation wasn't letting 2243 01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:49.600 third parties make wireless sticks, because they're making it. I 2244 01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:51.720 think it looks really neat. I think it's really cool 2245 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:54.039 that you can just on the back of it. Uh, 2246 01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:56.640 there are three pieces one is for circular, one is 2247 01:47:56.720 --> 01:47:59.840 for square, and one is for octagonal movement, and you 2248 01:47:59.880 --> 01:48:02.079 can just snap them in and out as you please. Yeah, 2249 01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:04.319 whatever is whatever's most comfortable for you. 2250 01:48:04.560 --> 01:48:09.039 That's that's has been on like consumer grade arcade sticks 2251 01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:10.640 by sticks for a long time now, but it's always 2252 01:48:10.680 --> 01:48:14.000 been saying where even the ones that do easily opened up, 2253 01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:15.960 you have to like take off the gate because it's 2254 01:48:15.960 --> 01:48:18.399 like an arcade style gate. This is like it looks 2255 01:48:18.439 --> 01:48:21.000 like a much easier just a small piece they snap 2256 01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:23.680 on off to make it. Yeah, whatever shape you want 2257 01:48:23.720 --> 01:48:26.439 the stick to move in, which different shapes are better 2258 01:48:26.520 --> 01:48:29.119 for different games and different play styles, Like a circle gate, 2259 01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:31.560 for example, you can imagine is good for grapplers where 2260 01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:33.680 you need to do three sixty sweeping motions right very 2261 01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:36.079 quickly and stuff. Yeah, that's what they're going for there. 2262 01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:41.640 It is weird that even this needs the PlayStation link adapter, 2263 01:48:42.119 --> 01:48:44.279 just like their headphones do and everything like that. It's 2264 01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:48.079 weird that's not just using the proprietary Sony what is 2265 01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:50.880 you remind me what is the link adapter? I can't 2266 01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:54.600 play all of the wireless things. Exce Sense is a yeah, 2267 01:48:54.720 --> 01:48:57.239 USB dongle. You need to plug it in so like, 2268 01:48:57.439 --> 01:49:01.079 which makes sense on PC of course, Yeah, but no, 2269 01:49:01.279 --> 01:49:03.359 you need to use it for this as well. Like 2270 01:49:03.479 --> 01:49:05.600 at the very least they show that. Well, you can 2271 01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:07.800 also use it with other things. You can connect two 2272 01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:11.079 flex strikes to one adapter. You can keep using your 2273 01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:14.479 PlayStation headset with the adapter as well. It's so weird 2274 01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:18.359 that doesn't just work over Bluetooth or whether proprietary Bluetooth 2275 01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:19.439 that they have or whatever. 2276 01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:22.760 At least actually find for controller data, Like there's no 2277 01:49:23.159 --> 01:49:26.640 story there, which is the dual sense is bad for 2278 01:49:26.720 --> 01:49:29.239 audio but not for like controller data is so small 2279 01:49:29.319 --> 01:49:29.880 it's not never. 2280 01:49:29.800 --> 01:49:30.359 Been an album. 2281 01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:34.720 I wonder if if they the PlayStation link connection. This 2282 01:49:34.840 --> 01:49:36.720 is probably not the case, but I wonder if PlayStation 2283 01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:39.279 has figured out a latency issue, because if there's one 2284 01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:44.960 genre of that is worried about latency and frame drops, 2285 01:49:45.319 --> 01:49:47.439 it's fighting game fans. So if they figured out a 2286 01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:51.439 way that the PlayStation link is has less radio. 2287 01:49:53.199 --> 01:49:58.680 Actual you know how because you know two point that's 2288 01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:01.600 what Bluetooth technically is, but like Xbox has their own 2289 01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:04.720 proprietary two point four signal, that's what they do with 2290 01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:07.800 PlayStation link as well. And to be clear. Just to 2291 01:50:07.840 --> 01:50:10.399 be clear, you can also use it wired yes, USBC, 2292 01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:13.399 right USBC, Yeah, which is how people use that tournament 2293 01:50:13.439 --> 01:50:15.199 or I think there's a tournament lock on it, like 2294 01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:19.039 all modern fighting peripherals and stuff. I am really curious though, 2295 01:50:19.079 --> 01:50:22.359 because the wireless is definitely be a boon for like 2296 01:50:22.479 --> 01:50:26.359 the more casual fighting game player. Fighting game fans know 2297 01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:29.680 what they want though, like Jason was getting at, especially 2298 01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:32.720 people use fight sticks, because people don't use fight sticks anymore. 2299 01:50:32.760 --> 01:50:35.119 When this gut revealed, I was surprised there was not 2300 01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:38.520 also a leverless option, because that's what's hot right now. 2301 01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:41.319 I wouldn't be surprised if this does decently well if 2302 01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:44.640 they also do that. But yeah, like people who play 2303 01:50:44.760 --> 01:50:47.479 on sticks are people who played in the arcade back 2304 01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:50.039 in the day or learned when the fighting game community 2305 01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:52.399 was like this is the way to play fighting games, 2306 01:50:52.439 --> 01:50:55.239 you know, in the like early twenty tens. They're not 2307 01:50:55.560 --> 01:50:58.399 really getting new players with this, so I'm curious to 2308 01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:01.199 see how well this does. Because people have the option 2309 01:51:01.359 --> 01:51:04.399 that they like, or they have like custom built something 2310 01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:07.399 that they like, it'll be difficult to get this out 2311 01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:10.560 there and capture a new audience. But maybe they can 2312 01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:12.680 get enough people who like the convenience. 2313 01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:16.760 I think I think there is a not huge, but 2314 01:51:17.239 --> 01:51:22.279 significant and I'm using that word like squishly of overlap 2315 01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:26.359 between fighting game fans and PlayStation sikos, and they'll they'll 2316 01:51:26.399 --> 01:51:27.279 be the ones to go for this. 2317 01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:29.439 Well, yeah, this PlayStation is the place to play fighting 2318 01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:33.640 games now, Japanese games releasing only on there. They bought Evo, 2319 01:51:34.039 --> 01:51:37.079 and this is we haven't seen a ton of them 2320 01:51:37.199 --> 01:51:39.560 doing stuff with the EVO brand. They have the PlayStation 2321 01:51:39.720 --> 01:51:42.279 tournament stuff that was kind of part of all that. 2322 01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:45.319 This feels like more of them actually leaning into it 2323 01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:49.479 alongside Toko and being a first party. Arc system Works, 2324 01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:52.600 Marvel Fighting and got them Gang. So just saying those 2325 01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:57.760 words together, Jason on. 2326 01:51:57.800 --> 01:52:02.479 Yourself, you're out number grub Drift doesn't care. Yeah, I 2327 01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:07.359 don't care, but I am intrigued. So leverless is like 2328 01:52:07.520 --> 01:52:08.960 a fight stick without a stick. 2329 01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:11.560 You're gonna love this ship. 2330 01:52:11.680 --> 01:52:15.399 Okay, So audio listeners, everyone just left the call. 2331 01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:16.119 Because we all got. 2332 01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:18.239 Yeah. 2333 01:52:18.279 --> 01:52:19.159 Wait, so this is. 2334 01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:21.119 So. 2335 01:52:21.239 --> 01:52:22.399 These four buttons. 2336 01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:25.920 Are your directions and then your your your your attacks 2337 01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:26.560 are here. 2338 01:52:26.920 --> 01:52:28.520 It's without lever you see. 2339 01:52:31.479 --> 01:52:37.119 The controller is that keyboard players want play on. So 2340 01:52:37.239 --> 01:52:39.439 it's a keyboard, but with arcade buns. 2341 01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:41.720 God, a lot of people learn to play like Street 2342 01:52:41.760 --> 01:52:44.439 Fighter on a keyboard and they like discovered some benefits 2343 01:52:44.479 --> 01:52:46.239 to that makes me ill. 2344 01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:48.079 Les. 2345 01:52:49.399 --> 01:52:52.159 It's just a SD space bar, which is just so 2346 01:52:52.359 --> 01:52:54.880 much more accurate than even like a D pad or 2347 01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:55.640 anything like that. 2348 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:58.600 It's if you saw the mess I made in this 2349 01:52:58.720 --> 01:52:59.800 basement running to get that. 2350 01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:02.119 Off the bottom. 2351 01:53:02.319 --> 01:53:04.279 Yeah, I just I just knocked down another controller because 2352 01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:09.039 both of you just like puffed out of the frame. 2353 01:53:10.960 --> 01:53:12.760 Did you say you didn't know something? Wait a second, 2354 01:53:14.840 --> 01:53:18.399 All right, last story here. Lego game Boy finally revealed 2355 01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:21.560 after months of leaks. It's gonna be sixty dollars four 2356 01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:24.479 hundred and twenty one pieces. It's coming October first, and 2357 01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:26.640 it looks adorable. I already pre ordered mine. 2358 01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:30.800 It comes with cartridges for a super Wait no, it 2359 01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:33.199 comes with yeah, Legend of Zelda, a Lynks Awakening and 2360 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:35.640 what else? Yeah, Super Mario Land that you could sort 2361 01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:37.279 of display next to it, and then also has like 2362 01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:40.920 little plates you can slide into the game Boy to 2363 01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:43.000 make it look like you're playing Links Awakening, And it's 2364 01:53:43.039 --> 01:53:43.479 actually the. 2365 01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:46.319 Beach cut scene from. 2366 01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:48.199 Lenks Awakening, which is one of my favorite things ever 2367 01:53:48.279 --> 01:53:48.760 as a kid. 2368 01:53:49.119 --> 01:53:50.960 So it was like immediately, oh, I got to get 2369 01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:51.319 this thing. 2370 01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:53.720 So it's got an actual the screen is real. 2371 01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:55.319 The screen is not real. 2372 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:58.920 It is like you know, yes, so it's it's it 2373 01:53:59.079 --> 01:54:01.880 is just like static scenes that you can slide in. 2374 01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:03.840 I believe is how it's gonna work. Yeah. 2375 01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:04.680 I kind of looked at it. 2376 01:54:04.760 --> 01:54:06.159 It was just like that looks amazing, and I didn't 2377 01:54:06.199 --> 01:54:08.560 really look to figure out how exactly it's going to function. 2378 01:54:09.399 --> 01:54:13.880 But gonna be Yeah, it's not gonna be as robust 2379 01:54:13.960 --> 01:54:15.600 as like the ne E s which had the TV 2380 01:54:15.720 --> 01:54:17.600 which you could like spind a dial and like a 2381 01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:18.399 scene with Killer. 2382 01:54:18.840 --> 01:54:21.960 Yeah, it's not gonna be like that. But this is 2383 01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:22.600 really cute. 2384 01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:24.600 I saw this this morning as well. I think this 2385 01:54:24.720 --> 01:54:26.880 is where I draw the line though, of like the 2386 01:54:27.039 --> 01:54:29.880 Nintendo lego stuff that I'm going to own and build, 2387 01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:32.720 which side of the line is this on? This is 2388 01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:35.439 on the side that I'm not gonna Okay, I've heard 2389 01:54:35.520 --> 01:54:37.319 the line has been met with the ne e s 2390 01:54:37.600 --> 01:54:41.680 and the uh yeah and the TV. That's all one package, right. 2391 01:54:41.640 --> 01:54:44.479 Yeah, that's one package. Yeah, then there's some other Mario stuff, 2392 01:54:44.520 --> 01:54:46.359 But they did some other kind They did it right. 2393 01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:49.760 Like a world map one that out of a question 2394 01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:51.840 box that I kind. Yeah, that's the Mario sixty four 2395 01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:54.600 one that Mike Brother's got me for my birthday one year. Yeah, 2396 01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:56.199 that one justify gat the nes one. 2397 01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:56.800 I regret it. 2398 01:54:56.840 --> 01:54:59.880 I wish. Oh there was Anarty one, right, I don't know. 2399 01:55:00.039 --> 01:55:01.000 I think that was the first one. 2400 01:55:03.159 --> 01:55:05.479 Okay, they are. 2401 01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:07.880 The little scenes are lenticulars because I saw like they 2402 01:55:07.920 --> 01:55:11.880 have the Nintendo dropping down as you like a little bit. 2403 01:55:11.960 --> 01:55:12.600 That's fantastic. 2404 01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:16.399 Buttons work, good question actually, because. 2405 01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:18.359 They don't work on the the controllers. 2406 01:55:19.239 --> 01:55:19.760 I'm not sure. 2407 01:55:19.760 --> 01:55:22.560 The reason I'm on the side of actually might get 2408 01:55:22.640 --> 01:55:24.640 this is because it's only sixty bucks. 2409 01:55:24.840 --> 01:55:27.720 Yeah, that was purchase price. Yeah, it's small. 2410 01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:29.359 You put it in a little stand in your good 2411 01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:30.600 I believe. 2412 01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:32.159 It's one to one. Yeah, he's whole day. It looks 2413 01:55:32.159 --> 01:55:32.880 like it's one to one. 2414 01:55:33.079 --> 01:55:37.159 Yeah. They said it's just like a fraction smaller, like 2415 01:55:37.239 --> 01:55:39.680 a very small percentage smaller than the original Game Boy. 2416 01:55:39.760 --> 01:55:41.039 It's very close to one to one. 2417 01:55:41.399 --> 01:55:48.079 They wow, okay, this is detailed for sixty bucks. I'm 2418 01:55:48.960 --> 01:55:50.039 just to put on the desk. You know. 2419 01:55:50.319 --> 01:55:57.960 I think that's a care thing. Okay, what it going 2420 01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:01.560 back on that side? Okay, York Times Needle. It's wavering. 2421 01:56:03.600 --> 01:56:05.680 It's completely unreliable, is what you're saying. 2422 01:56:07.239 --> 01:56:07.920 Unpredictable? 2423 01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:12.600 Yeah, based, Yeah, so Super Nintendo would you would you 2424 01:56:12.600 --> 01:56:15.760 get one of those? And I don't have the fondness 2425 01:56:15.840 --> 01:56:17.960 for us a Superannys as I do for any as 2426 01:56:18.920 --> 01:56:20.720 I would try. I think the one I would for 2427 01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:21.199 sure get. 2428 01:56:21.239 --> 01:56:23.119 I think it's in sixty four because I think that's 2429 01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:24.600 a weird looking console and I want to see how 2430 01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:24.760 they do. 2431 01:56:24.960 --> 01:56:26.800 Game Cube would be cool too, But what is it 2432 01:56:26.920 --> 01:56:27.920 like eleven pieces? 2433 01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:34.359 Like, Yeah, it's just a big leg piece. Yeah, all right, 2434 01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:36.319 that's gonna do it for the news ure. 2435 01:56:36.319 --> 01:56:38.199 If I'm handing the show back over to you, I. 2436 01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:40.359 Will take it from you with my hands and I 2437 01:56:40.359 --> 01:56:43.239 will place it on this shelf as we dip out 2438 01:56:43.359 --> 01:56:46.560 for one more break before we hit up emails and 2439 01:56:46.960 --> 01:56:49.680 super chats on the other side of this break. 2440 01:56:49.840 --> 01:56:55.920 We'll be right back, folks, Stay tuned, all right, welcome 2441 01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:58.199 back to the Giant BombCast. It is that portion of 2442 01:56:58.319 --> 01:57:03.640 the program where we look to you for emails. That's right, 2443 01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:08.600 BombCast at Giant Bomb dot com. 2444 01:57:09.960 --> 01:57:13.159 That's the email address. We'll get to these, we'll do 2445 01:57:13.319 --> 01:57:16.560 some super chats after this, and we'll be on our way. 2446 01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:17.199 Folks. 2447 01:57:17.680 --> 01:57:23.279 All right, let's get to the first email. Neil from 2448 01:57:23.319 --> 01:57:26.039 Philly says, So, I've been playing Bonanza and loving it, 2449 01:57:26.680 --> 01:57:29.199 but I couldn't help but think about what this studio 2450 01:57:29.399 --> 01:57:32.439 does next. I fully expect them to do Mario next, 2451 01:57:32.640 --> 01:57:35.520 and best case it'll be in the next three years, 2452 01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:37.359 assuming DK was mostly done for years. 2453 01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:39.640 But what then are then? 2454 01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:43.319 Now a three D Mario and DK studio swapping back 2455 01:57:43.359 --> 01:57:46.399 and forth. Then we get the Bethesa's studio issue of 2456 01:57:46.439 --> 01:57:48.640 two franchises that we only see once every twelve years 2457 01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:51.920 or so. Now that they established a new formula for DK, 2458 01:57:52.359 --> 01:57:54.720 do they give it to another studio and focus on 2459 01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:59.399 Mario or maybe reinvent another franchise. My hope would be 2460 01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:03.239 to see what they could do for a three D Yoshi, Neil, 2461 01:58:03.319 --> 01:58:04.399 you're all over the place. 2462 01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:07.880 What do you think will happen? Or what do you 2463 01:58:08.079 --> 01:58:08.800 want them to do? 2464 01:58:10.399 --> 01:58:10.560 Yeah? 2465 01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:12.359 I was gonna When we were talking about DK earlier, 2466 01:58:12.359 --> 01:58:13.399 I was like, what do you guys. 2467 01:58:13.199 --> 01:58:14.880 Want the studio to do next? We had gone along, 2468 01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:17.560 so I'm glad we have this email. I don't know, 2469 01:58:18.680 --> 01:58:20.560 you know, I think ideally they'd be able to do 2470 01:58:20.680 --> 01:58:22.960 both and do them quickly. Right in a perfect world 2471 01:58:23.199 --> 01:58:25.359 they can handle both of these things and get one out. 2472 01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:27.359 Every three years. Hooray. 2473 01:58:27.560 --> 01:58:31.239 That's not going to be possible or likely. So I 2474 01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:34.000 think the next thing they do is go back to Mario. 2475 01:58:34.119 --> 01:58:36.159 This is the three D Mario team. They will go 2476 01:58:36.239 --> 01:58:38.880 back to Mario. They what they do after that? Do 2477 01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:40.039 they try to come back to DK? 2478 01:58:40.279 --> 01:58:40.600 I don't know. 2479 01:58:40.680 --> 01:58:42.239 Do you guys get the sense that now that DK 2480 01:58:42.399 --> 01:58:44.920 is established or I go, okay, expect this to be 2481 01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.720 a going thing as we move forward, because I don't 2482 01:58:47.760 --> 01:58:49.119 necessarily feel that way. 2483 01:58:50.840 --> 01:58:52.720 I don't see why their next game couldn't be both 2484 01:58:54.760 --> 01:58:59.039 joint adventure. You've connected together, you've connected those franchises now 2485 01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:03.239 in some things, so I don't see why Mario and 2486 01:59:03.319 --> 01:59:05.319 DK couldn't partner up for a nice thing. It's been 2487 01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:07.800 connected for a long time now, Mario versus Donkey Kong, 2488 01:59:07.880 --> 01:59:11.239 stuff like that. So yeah, I think let's see what 2489 01:59:11.520 --> 01:59:13.319 Let's see what the studio can do with both of them. 2490 01:59:13.359 --> 01:59:15.800 Maybe a co op adventure, co op platform us. 2491 01:59:15.840 --> 01:59:19.560 That's sure that I don't see it. I would be 2492 01:59:19.640 --> 01:59:20.359 happy to see that. 2493 01:59:21.039 --> 01:59:24.880 I feel like unfortunately that won't happen. But I mean 2494 01:59:25.960 --> 01:59:28.439 a part of me, you know, I don't really like 2495 01:59:28.560 --> 01:59:30.800 I like Nintendo stuff. I want to play Mario games, 2496 01:59:30.840 --> 01:59:33.760 but like, yeah, I am curious, like when that next 2497 01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:36.640 three D Mario, like what the timeline is on that. 2498 01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:40.880 I think there is a bit of a sand that 2499 01:59:41.039 --> 01:59:44.039 runs out of the Nintendo hourglass with Mario, where like 2500 01:59:44.159 --> 01:59:46.239 you have to fill that shit back up at some point. 2501 01:59:46.319 --> 01:59:49.199 You can't let it run out too far before it 2502 01:59:49.479 --> 01:59:52.000 goes away. And I think, you know, some of that 2503 01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:54.680 move is maybe replenished with Wonder, but certainly not in 2504 01:59:54.760 --> 01:59:58.359 the three D fashion. So like, uh, you know, I 2505 01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:00.680 gotta yeah, I don't know, Grub, you probably have the 2506 02:00:00.760 --> 02:00:02.039 best insight to speak to this. 2507 02:00:02.520 --> 02:00:05.800 I mean that's why I do think Mario game probably 2508 02:00:05.880 --> 02:00:07.880 is going to come from them. So it's just too popular, right, 2509 02:00:07.920 --> 02:00:11.359 It's too h it's too crucial to everything they're doing now, 2510 02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:13.520 Like it's it is load bearing in terms of like 2511 02:00:13.600 --> 02:00:16.159 the structure of like how they built the company with 2512 02:00:16.359 --> 02:00:20.760 movies and theme parks as well. So certainly a three 2513 02:00:20.840 --> 02:00:22.520 D Mario is going to come from this company one 2514 02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:24.199 way or the other in the next couple of years. 2515 02:00:26.119 --> 02:00:28.399 But then, yeah, I still I wonder it's like, Okay, 2516 02:00:28.520 --> 02:00:30.960 do they then jump back to DK after that? Do 2517 02:00:31.079 --> 02:00:32.880 they try to do what they do with DK doo 2518 02:00:32.960 --> 02:00:36.560 to another character like Yoshi? I could see that, but 2519 02:00:37.359 --> 02:00:39.359 I don't know it is going to like that next 2520 02:00:39.399 --> 02:00:41.279 project will at that point take so long. So I 2521 02:00:41.279 --> 02:00:43.800 think we all are assuming that maybe maybe they've had 2522 02:00:43.880 --> 02:00:46.439 time to work on a three D Mario while DK 2523 02:00:46.880 --> 02:00:49.439 was in the polishing phase for an extremely long amount 2524 02:00:49.479 --> 02:00:53.159 of time. But I don't know. I think after Mario, 2525 02:00:53.199 --> 02:00:54.920 it's all up in the air. It's a big question mark. 2526 02:00:55.239 --> 02:00:58.600 Is it possible a different team makes the next Mario? 2527 02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:00.880 Not the three D Mario? 2528 02:01:02.359 --> 02:01:05.600 Not no, but it's possible that they you know, when 2529 02:01:05.640 --> 02:01:08.039 they're making DK and they're working with a bunch of teams, 2530 02:01:08.600 --> 02:01:10.199 there are some other teams in the credits there. I 2531 02:01:10.319 --> 02:01:12.479 think maybe they talk about, hey, we're building up this 2532 02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:14.560 technology and you could take it and now go make 2533 02:01:14.720 --> 02:01:18.319 your own Yoshi game. That could be happening, But no, 2534 02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:21.640 this is the team Kirby. Yes, a Kirby game for sure. Yeah, 2535 02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:24.319 you could see how that would work. This is the 2536 02:01:24.359 --> 02:01:26.000 team that will make the three D Mario game. 2537 02:01:25.880 --> 02:01:28.600 Though yeah, it would need to be either they hand 2538 02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:32.760 off the duty of making three D Mario two, like 2539 02:01:33.279 --> 02:01:37.520 this is the new Mario studio with people from was 2540 02:01:37.560 --> 02:01:40.239 this EPD eight, Like we got some people that, like, 2541 02:01:40.520 --> 02:01:42.800 you know, pave the way for the next generation to 2542 02:01:42.920 --> 02:01:46.159 then be the Mario studio, Like they could do that, 2543 02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:49.439 But otherwise, this is the studio that's making the next 2544 02:01:49.520 --> 02:01:52.640 Mario because that's how it's been since Galaxy, I believe. 2545 02:01:53.119 --> 02:01:56.279 So that's just that's what they do. I think it's 2546 02:01:56.399 --> 02:02:00.119 more likely that the next Decay game, or like I 2547 02:02:00.279 --> 02:02:02.720 was saying, anything else that they do that gets handed 2548 02:02:02.760 --> 02:02:04.800 off to someone else, because that's the kind of thing 2549 02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:08.399 that another team could take and maybe it doesn't necessarily 2550 02:02:08.479 --> 02:02:11.359 have the spit shine polish that EPD eight puts on 2551 02:02:11.680 --> 02:02:14.640 the three D Marios and now Bonanza, but like they 2552 02:02:14.680 --> 02:02:17.680 can get away with that because it's a different format, 2553 02:02:17.760 --> 02:02:21.640 it's it's a little newer. I think we're assuming, you know, 2554 02:02:21.680 --> 02:02:24.319 there's been a lot of conspiracy theory about like the 2555 02:02:24.479 --> 02:02:27.159 team making this game and everything like that. I think 2556 02:02:27.680 --> 02:02:32.720 we are all assuming a lot of things is right now. 2557 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.319 I'm curious to see what happens next because it got 2558 02:02:36.399 --> 02:02:39.319 transitioned from Switch one switch to so we know that 2559 02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:42.920 like at a certain point there is a little bit 2560 02:02:43.119 --> 02:02:46.239 of like leeway there where when you transition a project 2561 02:02:46.680 --> 02:02:49.199 from one platform to the other. Is what I trying 2562 02:02:49.239 --> 02:02:53.199 to get at, Like the waste between Mario Ossi and 2563 02:02:53.279 --> 02:02:56.520 DK Banazo's big, but if they're a continuing works for 2564 02:02:56.760 --> 02:02:59.520 Switch too, it doesn't need to be as big. And 2565 02:02:59.760 --> 02:03:02.960 I'm like, even if the next big game from them 2566 02:03:03.079 --> 02:03:07.000 is still quite a ways off, like how long is 2567 02:03:07.560 --> 02:03:09.760 too long? It is why I want to know from 2568 02:03:09.800 --> 02:03:12.079 you guys, because like I think about Breath a while 2569 02:03:12.159 --> 02:03:15.119 to Tears of the Kingdom and like that doesn't in 2570 02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:17.039 my head. Maybe it's just because they're both switched one, 2571 02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:19.319 it doesn't feel like that long. But it was almost 2572 02:03:19.319 --> 02:03:23.720 the entire like console generation, it was six years, six years, yep. 2573 02:03:24.279 --> 02:03:27.399 But I think there is a built in expectation for 2574 02:03:27.600 --> 02:03:29.920 a Zelda to be that because those. 2575 02:03:30.079 --> 02:03:33.079 Games are so massive. I think each franchise has its 2576 02:03:33.119 --> 02:03:36.279 own sort of like sure in Space. 2577 02:03:36.239 --> 02:03:39.680 You know, yeah, and they just I mean, they don't 2578 02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:41.279 want to go too long without a three D Mario 2579 02:03:41.359 --> 02:03:43.239 on the console for sure, So what would be too long. 2580 02:03:43.319 --> 02:03:44.760 I mean, if I think if they get like two 2581 02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:47.720 years removed from that next movie, the next Mario movie, 2582 02:03:47.960 --> 02:03:50.119 that's way too long because that's just a ton of 2583 02:03:50.159 --> 02:03:52.199 money left on the table, and they don't want to 2584 02:03:52.239 --> 02:03:52.399 do that. 2585 02:03:52.720 --> 02:03:55.279 Ideally, you have everything pop off within like three months 2586 02:03:55.359 --> 02:03:58.399 of each other, you know, like yep, so when is 2587 02:03:58.439 --> 02:04:03.079 the movie? What's the next year? I think it's twenty six, Yeah. 2588 02:04:03.119 --> 02:04:05.079 The twenty six or twenty seven, I can't remember. 2589 02:04:05.159 --> 02:04:05.800 Who's to say. 2590 02:04:05.920 --> 02:04:06.600 What are years? 2591 02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:09.520 Yeah, April third, twenty twenty six, it is next year. 2592 02:04:09.640 --> 02:04:13.760 So yeah, well so, I mean I'm. 2593 02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:16.840 Looking at EPD eight's like a wiki page now, and 2594 02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:19.239 it does seem like as time moves on, they are 2595 02:04:19.359 --> 02:04:23.279 just getting further and further big gaps between the mainline 2596 02:04:23.319 --> 02:04:26.560 marios that they make, because like Galaxy to Galaxy two 2597 02:04:26.760 --> 02:04:29.600 was three years, and then like Galaxy two, the three 2598 02:04:29.680 --> 02:04:32.119 D World was three years, and then three D World 2599 02:04:32.239 --> 02:04:34.720 Aussie it was four years. Seems like the gap is 2600 02:04:34.840 --> 02:04:37.079 kind of just widening as they're getting a little more 2601 02:04:37.159 --> 02:04:38.720 ambitious with the things that they want to. 2602 02:04:38.720 --> 02:04:40.920 Pull off, and they're still there testing stuff, yeah. 2603 02:04:40.920 --> 02:04:43.840 Right, and they're still putting out games with the support 2604 02:04:43.920 --> 02:04:47.079 of other Nintendo studios, but does feel like maybe we 2605 02:04:47.359 --> 02:04:49.640 do just have to wait a while for the next 2606 02:04:49.840 --> 02:04:52.439 big three D Mario. I know that it feels like 2607 02:04:52.600 --> 02:04:54.560 that is an essential thing they need to put out. 2608 02:04:55.039 --> 02:04:59.439 Maybe we just get something smaller or easier to put out, 2609 02:04:59.520 --> 02:05:03.079 like a two Mario or Ossy two is just Odyssey too, 2610 02:05:03.079 --> 02:05:05.039 because that would be easier to think. I'm curious. 2611 02:05:05.319 --> 02:05:09.880 I gotta say like now that uh de Bonanza is 2612 02:05:10.000 --> 02:05:13.600 like so Odyssey kind of coded, like I feel like 2613 02:05:13.680 --> 02:05:16.399 an Odyssey too, I would be a bit let down 2614 02:05:17.079 --> 02:05:18.720 at the I don't. I don't think they do an 2615 02:05:18.720 --> 02:05:22.119 Odyssey too. I think it's been too long. If they 2616 02:05:22.720 --> 02:05:24.680 if they do something that is still connected to this, 2617 02:05:24.840 --> 02:05:28.199 it's in a whole other direction, but it maybe continue 2618 02:05:28.239 --> 02:05:29.520 some stuff. But I just don't think they would do 2619 02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:32.039 an Odyssey too at this point. That would be the 2620 02:05:32.119 --> 02:05:33.920 side of always out then, wasn't it If they're doing 2621 02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:37.159 something fresh, I mean maybe I don't know so. I 2622 02:05:37.199 --> 02:05:39.840 mean the reason that the conspiracy theories are out there is, 2623 02:05:40.720 --> 02:05:43.920 you know, they did hire a new director to oversee Bonanza, 2624 02:05:44.079 --> 02:05:46.640 so you know, maybe there was someone else and we're still. 2625 02:05:46.479 --> 02:05:49.119 Working on Mario. That that this people kind of I think, 2626 02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:52.399 I think that's easy. The cope is definitely there for sure. 2627 02:05:52.399 --> 02:05:54.600 But I do think it's easy because there have been 2628 02:05:55.479 --> 02:05:59.560 pretty cataclysmic surprises in that capacity where it's like it's 2629 02:05:59.680 --> 02:06:04.359 not completely out of the realm of possibility, right, I mean. 2630 02:06:04.680 --> 02:06:10.239 No, we'll see. I just I think for Nintendo they 2631 02:06:10.399 --> 02:06:14.279 look at it as Mario is so crucially important that 2632 02:06:14.359 --> 02:06:15.840 they want to get it right. So it could still 2633 02:06:15.880 --> 02:06:17.840 take some time, yeah, but I think there this is 2634 02:06:17.880 --> 02:06:20.479 a company that feels really obsessed with timing things out 2635 02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:24.880 right now, you know the DK game launching, between DK 2636 02:06:25.000 --> 02:06:27.760 getting introduced in the Mario movie at with that new design, 2637 02:06:28.399 --> 02:06:33.439 and as the Universal Studios thing is opening right around 2638 02:06:33.479 --> 02:06:35.800 that same time, and as that movie's about to come out. 2639 02:06:35.840 --> 02:06:38.359 None of that's coincidence. That's all that's planning out, And 2640 02:06:38.760 --> 02:06:40.760 I think they will have a similar thing with that 2641 02:06:40.840 --> 02:06:42.920 next Mario movie and do it as best as they 2642 02:06:42.960 --> 02:06:46.399 possibly can, with the realities of game development still taken 2643 02:06:46.479 --> 02:06:47.880 into consideration there. 2644 02:06:47.920 --> 02:06:50.079 Now, Chet does point out this year is the fortieth 2645 02:06:50.079 --> 02:06:54.920 anniversary yep, yep. Do you think Man's plans something out 2646 02:06:54.960 --> 02:06:56.000 because forty does have. 2647 02:06:58.439 --> 02:07:01.039 It just clears the way from Mario time Machine too. 2648 02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:04.199 Come on, guys, yeah, what the world really wants? 2649 02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:06.880 Yeah, it's just like, you know, he's just getting his 2650 02:07:06.960 --> 02:07:10.239 prostate check now, you. 2651 02:07:10.279 --> 02:07:13.199 Know, prostate simulator. Yeah. 2652 02:07:14.039 --> 02:07:17.159 But thirtyth was Super Mario Maker. That's that was a 2653 02:07:17.319 --> 02:07:19.359 huge deal. But it's also thirty. 2654 02:07:19.920 --> 02:07:24.039 Thirty five was the collection three D All Stars Day. 2655 02:07:23.920 --> 02:07:27.880 And Bowser's Fury all right, yeah, oh those those are 2656 02:07:28.039 --> 02:07:30.640 both like you know, in the Grand Scam thing, smaller things. 2657 02:07:31.479 --> 02:07:33.479 Maybe they do have something of that level. 2658 02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:36.199 For this year's Surrey always gave me the sense that 2659 02:07:36.399 --> 02:07:38.720 like that was going to be the next very big thing, 2660 02:07:39.119 --> 02:07:41.159 and then they're like, we're close, but we're not quite 2661 02:07:41.239 --> 02:07:43.800 there yet. So let's just scale this down and put 2662 02:07:43.880 --> 02:07:45.640 it as an add on as we get ready to 2663 02:07:45.680 --> 02:07:47.079 make the next thing, and that's going to be d 2664 02:07:47.199 --> 02:07:50.239 K Bonanza apparently, So we'll see, we'll see. 2665 02:07:52.800 --> 02:07:56.359 Let's go to the next email here, Stephen Pasadena says, Hey, gang, 2666 02:07:56.439 --> 02:07:59.359 I've been playing a ton of Donkey Kong Bonanza and 2667 02:07:59.479 --> 02:08:01.960 I wanted to share that thanks to you guys. Whenever 2668 02:08:02.079 --> 02:08:04.680 I pick up the lift off or that shoots you 2669 02:08:04.880 --> 02:08:08.680 up into the sky, I reflexively yell I'm going vertical 2670 02:08:09.000 --> 02:08:13.000 every day time? Thanks and coats on independence. 2671 02:08:13.479 --> 02:08:17.079 Uh. Cool, cool and gross. That's how that's how he 2672 02:08:17.119 --> 02:08:18.640 gets his wings. And you don't want to see that. 2673 02:08:20.800 --> 02:08:24.640 Someone said they they call something else going vertical. I 2674 02:08:24.800 --> 02:08:26.920 just I can't think of that phrase the same way anymore. 2675 02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:28.800 Sorry, always been filthy. 2676 02:08:29.359 --> 02:08:30.239 It's pretty good. 2677 02:08:30.399 --> 02:08:35.439 I do think like, of all the bullshittery fuckery vernacular, 2678 02:08:35.680 --> 02:08:41.600 going vertical. You Yeah, that's the one that seems the 2679 02:08:41.680 --> 02:08:49.960 most important. Uh. Garrick from Los Angeles, Hey, duders, I 2680 02:08:50.079 --> 02:08:55.560 still fantasize about using the GameCube controller concept that Nintendo 2681 02:08:55.640 --> 02:09:00.640 showed but never released when the Wii was still the Revolution. 2682 02:09:01.800 --> 02:09:03.880 It's like you slide a we mode into the middle 2683 02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:06.640 of a GameCube controller. Uh do you guys remember that, 2684 02:09:06.720 --> 02:09:11.560 Jimmy jam I kind of remember it. Yeah, okay. He 2685 02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:13.920 goes on to say, what controller or game do you 2686 02:09:14.000 --> 02:09:18.840 still dream about using even though you never will. Uh. 2687 02:09:19.319 --> 02:09:22.399 The controller would be the PlayStation three boomerang, of course. 2688 02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:25.479 In the game would be Mega Man Legends three. 2689 02:09:27.279 --> 02:09:27.479 Good. 2690 02:09:27.760 --> 02:09:29.640 That's my answer answer, I. 2691 02:09:29.640 --> 02:09:32.199 Don't know on my screen. Hold on, let me let 2692 02:09:32.239 --> 02:09:34.920 me position myself if you can see up there. That 2693 02:09:35.079 --> 02:09:40.079 is signed by KG from New York Comic Con twenty eleven. 2694 02:09:40.119 --> 02:09:43.520 I want to say the Mega Man's Legends three poster there, 2695 02:09:43.640 --> 02:09:45.640 My god, what a hold of relic. That is the 2696 02:09:45.760 --> 02:09:46.319 holy Grail. 2697 02:09:46.479 --> 02:09:48.439 Yeah, did you get him to apologize for Mighty number 2698 02:09:48.520 --> 02:09:50.079 nine when he got this nature in there? 2699 02:09:50.319 --> 02:09:52.079 I don't know what if that had been announced yet, 2700 02:09:53.119 --> 02:09:56.279 but you know, I don't know, but yeah, that's said. 2701 02:09:56.279 --> 02:09:58.760 That would be the two that That p PS three 2702 02:09:58.840 --> 02:10:01.399 boomerang controller always fascinated me. 2703 02:10:02.520 --> 02:10:05.439 Just it didn't look like a double ended dildou Let's 2704 02:10:05.479 --> 02:10:14.840 be like, yeah, how never mind creative. I just yeah, I. 2705 02:10:14.880 --> 02:10:20.720 Didn't want to like have it fu anything or anything, but. 2706 02:10:20.760 --> 02:10:24.279 I was intrigued by it by its position, right, Like 2707 02:10:24.399 --> 02:10:26.119 it was always this thing of like, wow, they're really 2708 02:10:26.199 --> 02:10:29.760 going for it with this boomerang thing. And then you 2709 02:10:29.880 --> 02:10:32.079 know that lasted. All of it never saw the light 2710 02:10:32.079 --> 02:10:32.359 of day. 2711 02:10:32.439 --> 02:10:35.600 But yeah, never they were the backlash was That's one 2712 02:10:35.640 --> 02:10:38.359 of the first times that like an ugly sonic backlash 2713 02:10:38.399 --> 02:10:41.039 happened and kind of worked where I met that control 2714 02:10:41.039 --> 02:10:43.760 would have been fine, but I bet the dual shock 2715 02:10:43.800 --> 02:10:46.800 that they ended up coming out with was almost certainly better. 2716 02:10:47.479 --> 02:10:49.079 A better control six access. 2717 02:10:51.760 --> 02:10:54.439 As time does go on the controllers. Are they're really 2718 02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:57.279 dialing dialing them in in a pretty I mean with 2719 02:10:57.439 --> 02:10:59.920 a few gaps here the two paro controllers. 2720 02:11:00.279 --> 02:11:03.880 Is I really like it? It's nice. It's not that 2721 02:11:04.039 --> 02:11:06.880 half that makes the haptics work even better. It's it's 2722 02:11:06.920 --> 02:11:09.800 a good controller. My answer this would be, uh, I'm 2723 02:11:09.840 --> 02:11:13.000 not gonna say I fantasize about it. But the vitality sensor. 2724 02:11:13.079 --> 02:11:16.399 I always wanted to see what the ideas came up 2725 02:11:16.399 --> 02:11:19.399 with the vitalities. Yeah, so the we add on that 2726 02:11:19.520 --> 02:11:22.359 they were announcing as like the WE was about to 2727 02:11:22.399 --> 02:11:24.439 come out, and then everything just blew up in their 2728 02:11:24.439 --> 02:11:26.239 faces and we're not doing that ship anymore. 2729 02:11:26.840 --> 02:11:27.800 Was it was? 2730 02:11:27.880 --> 02:11:27.920 It? 2731 02:11:29.760 --> 02:11:32.000 Was it like just heartbeat or was it like also 2732 02:11:32.119 --> 02:11:35.039 like blood oxygen? I think it was just heartbeat, but 2733 02:11:35.119 --> 02:11:37.319 there could have been more to it. I could try to. 2734 02:11:40.000 --> 02:11:41.760 Yeah, you were supposed to use it after you were 2735 02:11:41.800 --> 02:11:43.680 done playing we Fit, so they could fat shame you 2736 02:11:43.800 --> 02:11:46.880 even more yet shaming. 2737 02:11:48.319 --> 02:11:48.359 That. 2738 02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:50.960 I forgot about that. But if I could adapt to 2739 02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:53.720 this question to what old controllers would you like to 2740 02:11:53.720 --> 02:11:55.800 see brought back, my answer to that would be the 2741 02:11:55.880 --> 02:11:57.199 chainsaw controller. 2742 02:12:00.119 --> 02:12:01.880 Controller, which I actually got to use for the first 2743 02:12:01.920 --> 02:12:03.079 time at dance house one time. 2744 02:12:03.520 --> 02:12:04.119 Nice, there you go. 2745 02:12:04.319 --> 02:12:04.520 Yeah. 2746 02:12:04.680 --> 02:12:07.279 I think Dan has a chainsaw as well. I should 2747 02:12:07.319 --> 02:12:08.560 be about okay. 2748 02:12:08.399 --> 02:12:13.319 Yeah, Mike used it to play several hours of Mary, 2749 02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:16.039 Kate and Ash's Sweet sixteen party game for the game. 2750 02:12:16.560 --> 02:12:17.479 As it was intended. 2751 02:12:17.880 --> 02:12:20.600 Yep. Another thing I need to talk to Dan about 2752 02:12:20.680 --> 02:12:23.279 maybe is I want to get us all doing this. 2753 02:12:23.399 --> 02:12:26.720 I've mentioned it before, but Soul Caliber on Dreamcast has 2754 02:12:26.840 --> 02:12:30.880 the Sega Best Fishing Fishing Rod controller as like a 2755 02:12:31.079 --> 02:12:34.600 supported peripheral. Do you actually swing your weapon using the 2756 02:12:34.680 --> 02:12:35.680 damn fishing rod? 2757 02:12:36.079 --> 02:12:36.199 Oh? 2758 02:12:36.279 --> 02:12:38.119 That's okay, that's what we need. Yeah, we need to 2759 02:12:38.239 --> 02:12:40.560 some matches. Caliberties that stupid thing. 2760 02:12:42.640 --> 02:12:44.960 Part of me wants like a light gun experience again, 2761 02:12:45.079 --> 02:12:47.000 like I kind of just want Have you seen this 2762 02:12:47.119 --> 02:12:50.840 thing the game the g Apostrophe A I am. 2763 02:12:52.039 --> 02:12:55.319 It is a new tech that someone's developing to make 2764 02:12:55.399 --> 02:12:59.000 light guns work on modern televisions, and it's like an 2765 02:12:59.079 --> 02:13:01.479 all in one encompass systems. So I think it comes 2766 02:13:01.520 --> 02:13:03.119 with the games and I can't remember what it comes 2767 02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:05.159 with might time. 2768 02:13:05.760 --> 02:13:12.800 Yeah, look, I'm hopeful that the technology works promising. This 2769 02:13:12.880 --> 02:13:15.399 one sounds promising, but if they are as good as 2770 02:13:15.760 --> 02:13:20.640 at naming products as they are. What are you game 2771 02:13:20.840 --> 02:13:25.119 with the word the mid What in the actual holy 2772 02:13:25.560 --> 02:13:28.600 fuck are you doing naming this whatever. 2773 02:13:28.359 --> 02:13:30.560 Game rhymes with the aim And so you just put 2774 02:13:30.600 --> 02:13:32.119 aim in the middle of the game and you got 2775 02:13:32.199 --> 02:13:36.000 the product. Baby, No more, no more discussion needed? Is 2776 02:13:36.800 --> 02:13:37.760 gamy or Jamie? 2777 02:13:38.439 --> 02:13:42.600 Literally ask one person, just just ask one person next 2778 02:13:42.680 --> 02:13:47.159 time they did and that person was other than a fortune? 2779 02:13:49.960 --> 02:13:52.159 Do you guys not know about the ascendon like gun? 2780 02:13:53.560 --> 02:13:56.439 I remember talking about this, but what was this one? 2781 02:13:56.680 --> 02:13:58.680 And so yeah, it's it's a modern like gun where 2782 02:13:59.000 --> 02:14:03.640 I believe it's just for emulating like gun games, but basically, uh, 2783 02:14:03.880 --> 02:14:06.079 it ports. I believe it's because I don't have one. 2784 02:14:06.119 --> 02:14:09.279 I believe it puts a white border around your entire screen, 2785 02:14:09.680 --> 02:14:13.119 which is enough for the uh, for the gun to 2786 02:14:13.399 --> 02:14:15.960 like detect. This is the frame of the game that 2787 02:14:16.039 --> 02:14:18.760 you're playing. This is the boundaries, and then it can 2788 02:14:18.960 --> 02:14:21.520 just you know, whatever a driver you need to install 2789 02:14:21.560 --> 02:14:23.399 or whatever. Yeah, you can just use a like gun 2790 02:14:23.479 --> 02:14:26.760 on your flat screen now. But again it's you're you're 2791 02:14:26.800 --> 02:14:29.760 not bringing back like the CRT experience. Necessarily you would 2792 02:14:29.760 --> 02:14:31.960 add to do emulation. As far as I know, but 2793 02:14:32.239 --> 02:14:35.520 still that's pretty neat. I think they are putting out 2794 02:14:35.680 --> 02:14:38.119 new like gung games that support the send in as well. 2795 02:14:39.359 --> 02:14:42.319 I think, yeah, there is something about that that I 2796 02:14:42.479 --> 02:14:45.520 just kind of want. I don't know, I'm not like 2797 02:14:45.560 --> 02:14:48.479 a huge gun game person, but there is like house. 2798 02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:50.880 It's weird because you're like the biggest gun guy I know, Like, 2799 02:14:51.039 --> 02:14:53.279 you know, I am just two A stickers all over 2800 02:14:53.319 --> 02:14:55.960 your house. Yeah, I got bare arms. 2801 02:14:59.520 --> 02:15:02.840 Yeah, so that'd be sick. I did see I did 2802 02:15:02.920 --> 02:15:07.279 see a mouse that has basically like a pistol grip 2803 02:15:07.880 --> 02:15:12.119 that has like firing action, so you basically like, you know, 2804 02:15:12.239 --> 02:15:15.079 it's it's basically just like a trigger and in a 2805 02:15:15.640 --> 02:15:18.119 grip that's a mouse and you use that as like 2806 02:15:18.199 --> 02:15:22.640 your thing, which was very dumb. I'm still going to 2807 02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:24.039 go back to this. I said this a while ago. 2808 02:15:24.119 --> 02:15:26.800 I don't know why mice don't have force feedback, Like, 2809 02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:28.560 I don't know why. That's just not like a more 2810 02:15:28.600 --> 02:15:30.920 of a common thing. There was one mouse that did 2811 02:15:31.279 --> 02:15:32.960 have that. Vinie and I were like obsessed with for 2812 02:15:33.000 --> 02:15:34.399 a while. But what was that thing called. 2813 02:15:34.439 --> 02:15:36.239 It was like two hundred and fifty dollars mouse or something. 2814 02:15:36.239 --> 02:15:42.680 It was called Swift did it. Also, it had like 2815 02:15:42.840 --> 02:15:45.359 six axis motion tracking in it as well. Right you 2816 02:15:45.399 --> 02:15:47.119 could like lift up the mouse and like tilted left 2817 02:15:47.159 --> 02:15:47.399 and right. 2818 02:15:47.680 --> 02:15:50.359 Yes, you could lift it and then change modes by 2819 02:15:50.640 --> 02:15:53.560 by changing the angle of the mouse. It was dumb 2820 02:15:53.640 --> 02:15:57.800 as hell and like lift point yeah, two point yeah. 2821 02:15:58.159 --> 02:16:01.359 Oh they have a two yeah. I just googled it 2822 02:16:01.840 --> 02:16:04.640 swift point z two. They were nice guys. 2823 02:16:04.680 --> 02:16:06.239 We wound up working with them a little bit because 2824 02:16:06.239 --> 02:16:08.239 they were just like, hey, you're the only you're sure 2825 02:16:08.520 --> 02:16:09.640 talking about us a lot. 2826 02:16:11.239 --> 02:16:16.119 Found the right weirdos. You guys want to hang out 2827 02:16:16.239 --> 02:16:16.640 or something. 2828 02:16:17.640 --> 02:16:18.680 You just want to be my friend. 2829 02:16:19.279 --> 02:16:22.000 You just want to party. Yeah, I don't know, Like 2830 02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:25.640 I couldn't remember if like the vibration also the vibration. Also, 2831 02:16:25.680 --> 02:16:27.359 I don't know if it worked in game. I think 2832 02:16:27.399 --> 02:16:28.800 there was a way to get it to do that. 2833 02:16:29.119 --> 02:16:32.680 Sure I translated into it or whatever exactly. I don't 2834 02:16:32.760 --> 02:16:35.479 understand why mice like give me that in a mouse, 2835 02:16:35.559 --> 02:16:37.559 give me in a mouse. I just want to feel that. 2836 02:16:37.840 --> 02:16:42.440 I want to feel something, make me feel something. All right, 2837 02:16:43.280 --> 02:16:46.719 we've got a couple more here, Oh, here we go, Okay, 2838 02:16:46.879 --> 02:16:48.920 maybe I can partake in this. 2839 02:16:49.639 --> 02:16:51.120 Do me read this one and you could try to 2840 02:16:51.319 --> 02:16:54.120 win it and try to do it. Sure, I hope 2841 02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:56.520 there's no answers there. Okay, yeah, I've hidden them. 2842 02:16:56.559 --> 02:16:57.079 Yes, okay. 2843 02:16:57.319 --> 02:17:01.159 From from Connor from Victoria, British Columbia High. After listening 2844 02:17:01.200 --> 02:17:03.280 to last week's episode, in hearing the quiz about the 2845 02:17:03.319 --> 02:17:07.280 original six NHL teams, which might which Jurff, I think 2846 02:17:08.159 --> 02:17:10.319 the team was able to get one of those, right, 2847 02:17:10.399 --> 02:17:13.360 how many did they get for original six? Yeah? 2848 02:17:13.399 --> 02:17:13.639 Were you? 2849 02:17:13.799 --> 02:17:15.200 Wait, were you on the episode last week? No, you 2850 02:17:15.280 --> 02:17:16.079 were busy last week? 2851 02:17:16.159 --> 02:17:17.280 Right, yeah, so couldn't make it. 2852 02:17:17.360 --> 02:17:19.559 Oh I left early. I left early, right, So I 2853 02:17:20.159 --> 02:17:21.760 like I knew the most. So I was like, they 2854 02:17:21.760 --> 02:17:23.639 were able to get like one I think of the 2855 02:17:23.680 --> 02:17:25.920 original six, and then I helped them out a little bit, 2856 02:17:25.959 --> 02:17:28.200 and I think they got the rest except for Boston 2857 02:17:28.239 --> 02:17:30.479 without much helps and they couldn't remember Boston Bruins. 2858 02:17:30.520 --> 02:17:33.280 That's I think Original six is like the entry level 2859 02:17:33.440 --> 02:17:35.319 hockey enthusiast question. 2860 02:17:35.479 --> 02:17:38.520 Yeah, exactly, all right, so this is a little bit different. 2861 02:17:38.559 --> 02:17:40.239 So after hearing that, thought I would it would be 2862 02:17:40.360 --> 02:17:42.600 fun to quiz the two hockey guys. Despite the name 2863 02:17:42.840 --> 02:17:46.520 Original six, they were not the original six teams. There 2864 02:17:46.760 --> 02:17:49.280 was at the start only four teams. Fun side fact, 2865 02:17:49.280 --> 02:17:52.120 the NHL was originally formed when three teams part of 2866 02:17:52.200 --> 02:17:54.639 the old league hated one of the other team's owners 2867 02:17:54.920 --> 02:17:56.879 and figured it was easier to leave and start a 2868 02:17:57.000 --> 02:17:59.399 new league without them instead of trying to get them 2869 02:17:59.479 --> 02:18:01.639 kicked out of the league. So I thought it would 2870 02:18:01.639 --> 02:18:03.040 be fun to see if you guys can guess the 2871 02:18:03.120 --> 02:18:07.200 original four NHL teams are Hint the nation referred to 2872 02:18:07.520 --> 02:18:10.959 in National Hockey League as Canada, not the United States. 2873 02:18:11.520 --> 02:18:15.520 Further hint, one city has two names, okay, so two differents. 2874 02:18:15.559 --> 02:18:18.280 One city has two two teams. 2875 02:18:18.120 --> 02:18:21.639 Two teams, two teams, yes, yeah, my bet. Okay, So 2876 02:18:22.840 --> 02:18:28.079 what are the original four teams? Jurf Alright, I guess 2877 02:18:28.120 --> 02:18:30.200 you know, let's just start do like say, the cities 2878 02:18:30.840 --> 02:18:37.319 okay are different, so Toronto, Montreal has to be them, yep. 2879 02:18:38.000 --> 02:18:47.239 And then there's one other city because Montreal, I'll Ottawa, Yes, Ottawa. 2880 02:18:48.559 --> 02:18:49.159 And Okay. 2881 02:18:49.360 --> 02:18:53.280 So so there's there's four teams in those three cities. Yes, 2882 02:18:53.639 --> 02:18:55.840 there's four teams in those three cities, and two of 2883 02:18:55.920 --> 02:18:58.399 them have the same name, as they. 2884 02:18:58.399 --> 02:18:59.559 Still do today. 2885 02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:02.920 How many have the same two two of the four 2886 02:19:03.959 --> 02:19:05.280 I'm one hundred percent on Canadians. 2887 02:19:05.319 --> 02:19:08.280 There's just no way. Yep, yep they are. And then 2888 02:19:09.399 --> 02:19:11.719 if there's the same name, then I would also think 2889 02:19:11.719 --> 02:19:12.559 it's the Senators. 2890 02:19:12.879 --> 02:19:16.239 Hey, Ottawa Senators, that's right, Okay, but then I'm lost. 2891 02:19:16.440 --> 02:19:19.959 I think, I honestly don't The Toronto team you're saying 2892 02:19:20.000 --> 02:19:22.719 has a different name is a different name, and the 2893 02:19:22.840 --> 02:19:25.000 only thing I would guess with them, And I don't 2894 02:19:25.079 --> 02:19:26.520 know this for sure, but I do know they have 2895 02:19:26.600 --> 02:19:29.120 that like weird Saint Patrick's stay jersey that they wear, 2896 02:19:29.680 --> 02:19:31.479 so I think it's like the same pats. 2897 02:19:31.680 --> 02:19:33.479 It was like something of them at some. 2898 02:19:33.600 --> 02:19:38.000 Point that that's an awesome guest, though that is not right. 2899 02:19:38.200 --> 02:19:41.840 I honestly am like confused about what this name even means. Okay, 2900 02:19:42.399 --> 02:19:44.760 it's you're not You're just they're not going to get it. 2901 02:19:44.920 --> 02:19:50.399 It's the Toronto Arena's Arenas. The Toronto Arenas were a 2902 02:19:50.440 --> 02:19:52.600 professional men's ice hockey team that played in the first 2903 02:19:52.600 --> 02:19:55.719 two seasons of the NHL. It was operated by the 2904 02:19:55.799 --> 02:19:59.639 owner of the arena gardens, the Toronto Arena Company, So 2905 02:19:59.680 --> 02:20:02.000 they just call it the fucking Toronto Arenas. 2906 02:20:03.280 --> 02:20:06.959 This was like nineteens like this is back before they 2907 02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:07.760 had creativity. 2908 02:20:07.920 --> 02:20:12.280 Yeah, I mean yeah, it's probably like nineteen fourteen or something. 2909 02:20:12.399 --> 02:20:13.879 It's nineteen seventeen, yep. 2910 02:20:13.959 --> 02:20:18.239 Yeah, but they had their colors blue and white. That's cool. 2911 02:20:19.239 --> 02:20:20.040 What was the fourth? 2912 02:20:20.719 --> 02:20:24.920 The fourth is another Montreal team, the Montreal Wanderers, which. 2913 02:20:24.760 --> 02:20:25.799 I like, that's a good name. 2914 02:20:25.959 --> 02:20:26.280 It's good. 2915 02:20:26.520 --> 02:20:29.000 Let's see in Montreal Wanderers. 2916 02:20:30.760 --> 02:20:33.319 They were an amateur and later professional ice hockey team 2917 02:20:33.319 --> 02:20:36.760 based in Montreal. The team played in the Federal Amateur 2918 02:20:37.040 --> 02:20:40.440 Hockey League, the Eastern Canadian Amateur blah blah blah, and 2919 02:20:40.479 --> 02:20:43.399 then they played in the original NHL, I guess, the 2920 02:20:43.559 --> 02:20:47.040 NHA and then the NHL. The Wanders were four times 2921 02:20:47.079 --> 02:20:49.559 Stanley Cup winners. Prior to the formation of the NHL, 2922 02:20:49.879 --> 02:20:51.879 the Red Bands were one of the most successful teams 2923 02:20:51.920 --> 02:20:54.159 in ice hockey. Yeah, and when you have a one 2924 02:20:54.200 --> 02:20:56.239 out of four shot, your odds got a lot better. 2925 02:20:56.559 --> 02:20:58.920 Hey, Like, I was like, we're like looking it up 2926 02:20:58.920 --> 02:21:00.600 because I'm like, well, I know, the Stanley Cup has 2927 02:21:00.639 --> 02:21:02.239 been around longer than the NHL. 2928 02:21:02.280 --> 02:21:02.840 How did it work. 2929 02:21:02.879 --> 02:21:05.639 It's like occasionally they just be like, here there's two teams, 2930 02:21:05.680 --> 02:21:08.079 you're both gonna play for the Stanley Cup and that's 2931 02:21:08.120 --> 02:21:09.680 what it worked. So you had like a fifty to 2932 02:21:09.680 --> 02:21:10.239 fifty shot. 2933 02:21:10.520 --> 02:21:13.399 So I just looked it up. The Saint Patrick's were 2934 02:21:13.479 --> 02:21:18.879 a team, oh yeah, nineteen nineteen to nineteen twenty okay, 2935 02:21:19.319 --> 02:21:23.639 and beyond I'm sorry, and beyond up until twenty six, 2936 02:21:23.879 --> 02:21:29.120 maybe even beyond. Uh and because after that Lee, after 2937 02:21:29.239 --> 02:21:33.520 those four teams it went the Montreal Canadians, Autawa Senators, 2938 02:21:33.600 --> 02:21:37.920 Quebec Bulldogs, and the Toronto Saint Patrick's. Yeah. 2939 02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:41.920 Man, hockey's an old sport, all things considered. Do you 2940 02:21:42.120 --> 02:21:46.360 watch the BlackBerry movie? Yes, where the storyline of the 2941 02:21:46.920 --> 02:21:49.959 of the CEO trying to bring the Penguins to Hamilton. 2942 02:21:51.440 --> 02:21:52.799 That'd be an insane thing. 2943 02:21:53.280 --> 02:21:55.879 What a timeline that would have been. Yep, all right, 2944 02:21:56.360 --> 02:21:58.200 I think I does it for that quiz back? All right, 2945 02:21:58.319 --> 02:22:03.280 very good, Thank you emailer. Finally, Dalton from the Internet, Hello, 2946 02:22:03.399 --> 02:22:05.360 bomb Crue, love you all, Proud of you all. 2947 02:22:05.399 --> 02:22:07.239 Well, thanks for proud of you too. What is a 2948 02:22:07.360 --> 02:22:10.680 video game complaint You're just tired of hearing from its 2949 02:22:10.719 --> 02:22:11.200 fan base? 2950 02:22:11.680 --> 02:22:14.000 Mine is? I am so tired of hearing people talk 2951 02:22:14.040 --> 02:22:17.079 about Final Fantasy going back to Turn based Final Fantasy 2952 02:22:17.120 --> 02:22:19.239 hasn't been turn based in twenty five years, guys, let 2953 02:22:19.319 --> 02:22:22.639 it go. It has not been turn based longer than it. 2954 02:22:22.920 --> 02:22:23.760 Was turn based. 2955 02:22:23.959 --> 02:22:26.280 The last turn based Final Fantasy game was Final Fantasy 2956 02:22:26.360 --> 02:22:29.799 ten on the PS two Square Excess. Other turn based 2957 02:22:29.879 --> 02:22:34.200 games Dragon Quest, Brayley, Default, Octopath. Come on, I was 2958 02:22:34.280 --> 02:22:36.680 gonna ask you, like, I'm like, that doesn't. 2959 02:22:37.280 --> 02:22:38.520 Ever forget about thirteen. 2960 02:22:39.000 --> 02:22:42.200 Yeah you're saying, well, no, okay, so thirteen. I think 2961 02:22:42.239 --> 02:22:44.879 people are like, well, it's not traditional turn based. That's 2962 02:22:44.959 --> 02:22:47.280 not what people mean. They mean they would be happy 2963 02:22:47.360 --> 02:22:49.319 with thirteen when they say turn based. 2964 02:22:49.239 --> 02:22:52.559 Right exactly. This person, I think is either confused or 2965 02:22:52.680 --> 02:22:56.799 is specifically saying like, yeah, traditional Dragon Quest style turn 2966 02:22:56.879 --> 02:22:58.360 basis not what Final Fantasy is. 2967 02:22:58.479 --> 02:22:59.840 I think that's what That's what a lot of people 2968 02:22:59.840 --> 02:23:01.159 can or when they when they hear that. 2969 02:23:02.079 --> 02:23:08.000 Yeah, but also the Final Fantasy hasn't been that since three, 2970 02:23:08.600 --> 02:23:10.719 when was a TV introduced in four? 2971 02:23:11.000 --> 02:23:14.280 Right, yeah that's true four or something like that. 2972 02:23:14.399 --> 02:23:14.600 Yeah. 2973 02:23:15.680 --> 02:23:18.959 So also it's just I think for that people are 2974 02:23:19.040 --> 02:23:23.559 just saying they want menu driven like that combat. That's 2975 02:23:23.639 --> 02:23:25.559 because like no one really is complaining about the combat 2976 02:23:25.600 --> 02:23:29.879 and Final Fantasy seven remake. Really they're just like, yeah, 2977 02:23:30.079 --> 02:23:34.159 this is close enough to the game. Yeah. I think 2978 02:23:34.159 --> 02:23:35.840 they're just like saying, we don't want them to go 2979 02:23:35.959 --> 02:23:36.440 full action. 2980 02:23:36.920 --> 02:23:37.520 It didn't work. 2981 02:23:37.600 --> 02:23:40.159 It just didn't work for that franchise. Okay, So what's 2982 02:23:40.200 --> 02:23:43.200 the question, is uh complaints that you guys are sick 2983 02:23:43.200 --> 02:23:44.360 of hearing about from. 2984 02:23:44.280 --> 02:23:46.280 Their fan base? What is the video game complaint you're 2985 02:23:46.280 --> 02:23:49.479 just tired of hearing from its fan base? Is all 2986 02:23:49.520 --> 02:23:51.559 of them? All of them? 2987 02:23:53.239 --> 02:23:53.520 Answer? 2988 02:23:53.639 --> 02:23:57.799 Yeah? On on this podcast. Not being mad about video games. 2989 02:23:57.600 --> 02:24:01.719 For this is less a complaint and just something I 2990 02:24:01.840 --> 02:24:03.360 hear all the time. Uh. 2991 02:24:03.920 --> 02:24:07.319 I think people like whenever, you know, getting talking to people, 2992 02:24:07.600 --> 02:24:10.520 mostly strangers who you know, find out what I do, 2993 02:24:10.760 --> 02:24:12.920 and then it's just this whole fucking thing and I 2994 02:24:13.079 --> 02:24:16.840 just I can't. But it always evolves into like I 2995 02:24:16.879 --> 02:24:19.479 don't play video games anymore because there's too many buttons, 2996 02:24:19.559 --> 02:24:23.639 And I'm just like, well, your brain stopped working because 2997 02:24:23.719 --> 02:24:25.360 like I don't know what to tell you. What do 2998 02:24:25.479 --> 02:24:29.000 you mean there's too many buttons? What does that even mean? 2999 02:24:29.079 --> 02:24:32.360 You're an adult person who's able to do all kinds. 3000 02:24:32.840 --> 02:24:39.280 Have you been in a vehicle, BUTLM is what floices you? 3001 02:24:39.600 --> 02:24:42.239 You're like, well, I can't do it the controller thinking 3002 02:24:42.520 --> 02:24:46.040 it's like, I'm sorry, you're brain dead. Like the super 3003 02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:49.079 Anys controller had a lot of buttons for its time, 3004 02:24:49.319 --> 02:24:53.200 there's not that many more. What's the old controller that 3005 02:24:53.280 --> 02:24:55.040 had like a full number pad? There was a couple 3006 02:24:55.040 --> 02:24:58.479 of them. Was it Jaguar? Was it in television? 3007 02:24:58.879 --> 02:25:01.200 Television definitely had like the phone pad on that. 3008 02:25:01.280 --> 02:25:03.639 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the Jaguar did have You had 3009 02:25:03.680 --> 02:25:06.159 a controller and it was like, yeah, an amorphic blob 3010 02:25:06.280 --> 02:25:08.200 because then beneath that was also the key pad. 3011 02:25:08.360 --> 02:25:11.520 Yeah yeah, And it's like that's crazy. It drives me 3012 02:25:11.680 --> 02:25:13.959 so insane. And I guess, like you know, you hear 3013 02:25:14.000 --> 02:25:16.520 it once or twice and you're like, oh, that's just 3014 02:25:16.719 --> 02:25:20.280 you know, the complaint. But this is a common thing 3015 02:25:20.479 --> 02:25:24.000 that everyone has like met about and agreed on saying this. 3016 02:25:24.280 --> 02:25:26.879 They were like, we're going to use this excuse for 3017 02:25:27.000 --> 02:25:30.159 the video game barrier, and it's just like it's and 3018 02:25:30.280 --> 02:25:32.280 it's not even true because if you started playing, you 3019 02:25:32.319 --> 02:25:34.479 would just immediately like oh this is button does that, 3020 02:25:34.600 --> 02:25:37.559 and it just feels intuitive. It's been fun. 3021 02:25:37.920 --> 02:25:42.120 It's been fun watching the kids or young children get 3022 02:25:42.280 --> 02:25:45.680 used to dual analog stick control from playing a lot 3023 02:25:45.760 --> 02:25:48.120 of minecraft. It's like, oh, they got this crush now 3024 02:25:48.399 --> 02:25:50.159 there is. This is just never gonna be a problem 3025 02:25:50.200 --> 02:25:51.840 for them again. For the rest of their lives. They're 3026 02:25:51.879 --> 02:25:54.040 going to be able to do dual stick movement in 3027 02:25:54.159 --> 02:25:56.040 video games for the controlling the character with one and 3028 02:25:56.079 --> 02:25:57.799 the camera with the other, whether that's first person or 3029 02:25:57.840 --> 02:26:00.879 third person. It's like, Okay, well that's sorted itself out. 3030 02:26:00.879 --> 02:26:02.639 I was worried about that would be that that'd be 3031 02:26:02.680 --> 02:26:04.719 too much for them, Like, no, six eight, they got it, 3032 02:26:04.959 --> 02:26:06.719 no issue. And if a six and eight year old 3033 02:26:06.760 --> 02:26:08.600 can do it, I know, the plasticity of the brain 3034 02:26:08.639 --> 02:26:10.680 and all that stuff. You could pick up a controller 3035 02:26:10.680 --> 02:26:11.360 and figure it out. 3036 02:26:11.440 --> 02:26:11.920 I get something. 3037 02:26:13.120 --> 02:26:16.840 I agree, you know, like a like that excuse doesn't 3038 02:26:16.879 --> 02:26:17.719 make you interesting. 3039 02:26:18.760 --> 02:26:21.559 Also, like you know it is. 3040 02:26:21.840 --> 02:26:24.639 I don't even own a TV of video game complaints 3041 02:26:24.760 --> 02:26:27.399 yet without a doubt. And it's just like, just try. 3042 02:26:27.639 --> 02:26:30.639 I dare you. I defy you to just try. It's okay. 3043 02:26:30.639 --> 02:26:32.280 If you don't want to play games, that's a whole 3044 02:26:32.319 --> 02:26:34.719 other different story. But don't tell me it's because there's 3045 02:26:34.719 --> 02:26:35.840 too many buttons on it. 3046 02:26:36.319 --> 02:26:37.200 Get out of here. 3047 02:26:37.600 --> 02:26:40.399 I mean, have you not seen patro piscal pick up 3048 02:26:40.719 --> 02:26:43.799 a controller and attempt to play Marvel Rivals in a 3049 02:26:43.879 --> 02:26:47.399 way where it's so obvious. It's been like decades since 3050 02:26:47.479 --> 02:26:49.000 my man ever looked at a video of it. 3051 02:26:49.680 --> 02:26:54.159 Have a fraction of the bravery that Pedro has. 3052 02:26:54.520 --> 02:26:54.879 Just have a. 3053 02:26:55.000 --> 02:26:57.239 Fractional lot of things, Yes, for a lot. 3054 02:26:58.440 --> 02:27:01.959 But also in the realm of ames, be more like Pedro. 3055 02:27:02.760 --> 02:27:05.760 Did you guys see that the cast of Fantastic Four 3056 02:27:05.920 --> 02:27:10.280 reacting to Marvel Rivals? Okay, well they were playing with 3057 02:27:10.639 --> 02:27:12.840 the play, but did you see like the reaction when 3058 02:27:12.840 --> 02:27:15.760 they noticed the characters and how sexy they were, Like, 3059 02:27:17.200 --> 02:27:21.319 I didn't notice that. There's a moment where I think, uh, 3060 02:27:21.440 --> 02:27:26.000 the the lady who's playing I can't remember her name, Vanessa, Yes, 3061 02:27:26.120 --> 02:27:29.159 Vanessa Kirby is like selecting characters, and it's like they're 3062 02:27:29.200 --> 02:27:31.639 showing off the different costumes for the invisible woman and 3063 02:27:31.760 --> 02:27:34.280 what it was just like straight up lingerie. And it 3064 02:27:34.399 --> 02:27:36.840 happens and all three of the guys are over her 3065 02:27:36.840 --> 02:27:38.840 shoulder and they like sort of like they're like, are 3066 02:27:39.120 --> 02:27:41.920 a gast Oh my god? Is this They start like 3067 02:27:41.959 --> 02:27:44.079 looking around at each other and like is this allowed 3068 02:27:46.799 --> 02:27:49.760 so genuine that they are so shocked? It's incredible. 3069 02:27:50.840 --> 02:27:55.879 Dude's rock moment for sure, interesting, interesting element. 3070 02:27:56.159 --> 02:27:58.200 If I have a legitimate complaint. I know earlier I 3071 02:27:58.239 --> 02:28:00.840 said all of them. But honestly, people who get all 3072 02:28:00.920 --> 02:28:04.559 up in arms like purists about crossovers, I love crossovers. 3073 02:28:04.600 --> 02:28:06.360 I think it's really cool when like a fighting game, 3074 02:28:06.440 --> 02:28:10.280 guest characters and stuff like that. It brings more people 3075 02:28:10.360 --> 02:28:12.799 in if they don't stick around. That's one thing. One 3076 02:28:12.840 --> 02:28:15.920 guy likes to say that it'll get that when they 3077 02:28:16.000 --> 02:28:18.079 lose the license, it'll get the game delisted. But I 3078 02:28:18.159 --> 02:28:20.000 haven't really seen that. I don't know if that's a 3079 02:28:20.079 --> 02:28:23.879 real thing. Just let the guest characters happen, let them come, 3080 02:28:24.239 --> 02:28:26.840 let them hang out, and that's it. Am I forgetting something? 3081 02:28:26.879 --> 02:28:27.639 Am I missing something? 3082 02:28:27.840 --> 02:28:31.399 Mortal Kombat nine isn't available anymore, unfortunately. 3083 02:28:31.440 --> 02:28:35.479 I'm just blinders on there. But I don't know. I 3084 02:28:35.520 --> 02:28:36.319 think it's a lot of fun. 3085 02:28:36.600 --> 02:28:38.799 That's a good point, yeah, Because I always wanted to 3086 02:28:38.840 --> 02:28:41.520 play tech and I just like it wasn't vibing with 3087 02:28:41.600 --> 02:28:43.520 it for a very long time. But Tech and seven, 3088 02:28:43.719 --> 02:28:45.600 my friend want me to play with him. I was like, 3089 02:28:46.079 --> 02:28:49.079 I don't get tech in. This was before I learned 3090 02:28:49.120 --> 02:28:51.159 other characters I don't get Tech in I don't really 3091 02:28:51.200 --> 02:28:54.159 have a character that yels to me just yet. I 3092 02:28:54.319 --> 02:28:56.639 played a Kuma because I was like, well, I know 3093 02:28:56.760 --> 02:28:58.399 how I play a Kuma because I play street Fire. 3094 02:28:58.920 --> 02:29:00.639 It wasn't until Knocked this is where I was like, 3095 02:29:00.719 --> 02:29:03.120 I love fifteen. So yeah, I'm playing my boy Nactus 3096 02:29:03.680 --> 02:29:06.680 got me into Tech and playing with my friend is 3097 02:29:06.959 --> 02:29:10.440 like learning the game. Yeah now I yeah, now I 3098 02:29:10.559 --> 02:29:13.559 play a Lily in eight and love playing Tech and 3099 02:29:13.680 --> 02:29:15.159 so yeah, it definitely gets people on the door. 3100 02:29:16.120 --> 02:29:17.840 That's it. I don't put I don't push back on 3101 02:29:17.959 --> 02:29:21.239 any crossovers as much as like unneeded as some of 3102 02:29:21.280 --> 02:29:21.639 it is. 3103 02:29:21.760 --> 02:29:24.559 And that's mostly like the call of duty stuff, right, 3104 02:29:24.719 --> 02:29:25.840 like Woll. 3105 02:29:26.000 --> 02:29:28.840 Speaking of Tech and putting Meagan from The Walking Dead 3106 02:29:28.879 --> 02:29:31.600 in Tech and seven was an inspired choice. 3107 02:29:31.360 --> 02:29:34.280 But it just seems, you know, look yeah, but like 3108 02:29:34.639 --> 02:29:40.159 being mad at it, you're a dumbassy I The Burback 3109 02:29:40.280 --> 02:29:42.559 Brothers did a fun video where they touch on some 3110 02:29:42.719 --> 02:29:45.920 of the crossover stuff. They did a video a month 3111 02:29:45.959 --> 02:29:48.440 ago about the evolution of crossovers, but it was more 3112 02:29:48.479 --> 02:29:50.760 from like the TV and pop culture sort of point 3113 02:29:50.760 --> 02:29:53.600 of view. Definitely a video worth watching. They are amazing 3114 02:29:53.680 --> 02:29:58.120 and funny. All right, I think that does it for 3115 02:29:58.360 --> 02:30:01.399 the emails. Let's let's shift over to Grub, who will 3116 02:30:01.479 --> 02:30:05.440 handle our super chats. Yes, I have the super chats 3117 02:30:05.559 --> 02:30:08.319 right here. Let me just get them, make sure I'm updated. Okay, 3118 02:30:08.479 --> 02:30:09.760 let's go with preenty. 3119 02:30:09.879 --> 02:30:10.120 Dude. 3120 02:30:10.799 --> 02:30:14.360 The hardest boss in Bonanza is the frames per second 3121 02:30:14.520 --> 02:30:16.799 in the final boss encounter, and anyone who says it's 3122 02:30:16.879 --> 02:30:19.680 fine is crazy, in my opinion, really took me out 3123 02:30:19.799 --> 02:30:24.200 of the experience I had. I had one moment where 3124 02:30:24.920 --> 02:30:27.840 I thought the frame rate in the final boss fight 3125 02:30:28.760 --> 02:30:31.680 was not just not just distracting, distracting, but like kind 3126 02:30:31.680 --> 02:30:33.520 of harmed my ability to get out of the way 3127 02:30:33.680 --> 02:30:37.079 one moment. So it's not fine. But I'm also at 3128 02:30:37.079 --> 02:30:40.719 a point where it's like it was happening because what 3129 02:30:40.959 --> 02:30:43.719 was happening on the screen was so epic and so 3130 02:30:43.840 --> 02:30:46.239 much stuff was happening that it kind of felt earned 3131 02:30:46.280 --> 02:30:47.040 to a certain point. 3132 02:30:47.159 --> 02:30:51.639 But yeah, right, that's the definition of fine. Get over it. 3133 02:30:51.840 --> 02:30:54.600 Like it passed within like five seconds or whatever. 3134 02:30:55.440 --> 02:30:57.840 Yes, and the most for the rest of the game, 3135 02:30:57.879 --> 02:31:01.079 when the frame rate dropped one, without question, it was fine, 3136 02:31:01.120 --> 02:31:03.799 and it was almost always happening. And Sean you mentioned 3137 02:31:03.920 --> 02:31:05.680 at one point when we first talked about this, people 3138 02:31:05.879 --> 02:31:09.120 didn't know the difference between frame rate drops and frame. 3139 02:31:08.959 --> 02:31:13.079 Pauses for hits. That conversation, Oh my god, that's what happened. 3140 02:31:13.239 --> 02:31:13.879 Was frustrated. 3141 02:31:14.000 --> 02:31:15.760 I don't even know what that is, but that sounds 3142 02:31:16.000 --> 02:31:17.520 very frustrating. 3143 02:31:16.959 --> 02:31:19.879 Like when you hit something in the animation pauses for impact, 3144 02:31:20.040 --> 02:31:23.040 Like I love that. That one immediately got stamped out 3145 02:31:23.120 --> 02:31:25.079 by the people actually met about the frame rate though, 3146 02:31:25.120 --> 02:31:28.639 So I'm glad there's a little self conrection on. But yeah, 3147 02:31:30.120 --> 02:31:32.600 that's gnar, like, don't get too angry about that kind 3148 02:31:32.600 --> 02:31:33.319 of stuff. 3149 02:31:34.319 --> 02:31:35.360 All right? From L Grug. 3150 02:31:35.559 --> 02:31:38.360 Did Grub ever find out or learn why the Zebras 3151 02:31:38.559 --> 02:31:41.639 say bra? They call each other bra constantly? And I 3152 02:31:41.719 --> 02:31:43.600 was like, oh, they're talking like the kids, how dare they? 3153 02:31:44.200 --> 02:31:49.680 It's because z Bras and so they call each other bras. Yeah, 3154 02:31:50.280 --> 02:31:52.000 I knew that without the context. What do you mean 3155 02:31:52.680 --> 02:31:54.799 I needed it? Someone in chat had to tell me 3156 02:31:54.840 --> 02:31:56.319 when I was first complaining about. 3157 02:31:56.120 --> 02:31:58.280 All right, so you figured that out? Figure out why 3158 02:31:58.280 --> 02:31:59.799 they hell to eat an ice cream? What's that about? 3159 02:32:00.479 --> 02:32:00.639 Yeah? 3160 02:32:00.680 --> 02:32:02.479 I don't know their whole deals, like they love they 3161 02:32:02.520 --> 02:32:05.639 love ice cream? Are surrounded by ice and fire. It's great. 3162 02:32:05.680 --> 02:32:07.000 What do you mean that's all right? 3163 02:32:07.920 --> 02:32:10.159 Jacalobe says, great afternoon. 3164 02:32:10.280 --> 02:32:10.440 All. 3165 02:32:10.600 --> 02:32:12.879 On the subject of the ship, that's just their name. 3166 02:32:13.120 --> 02:32:13.879 What am I supposed to do? 3167 02:32:14.360 --> 02:32:14.479 Uh? 3168 02:32:14.760 --> 02:32:17.079 On the subject of shirts, maybe a game mess morning 3169 02:32:17.200 --> 02:32:20.159 shirt that type top right square of the redesign would 3170 02:32:20.200 --> 02:32:20.680 look nice. 3171 02:32:21.079 --> 02:32:21.239 Yeah. 3172 02:32:21.840 --> 02:32:23.760 I have to like be very nice to Mike to 3173 02:32:23.840 --> 02:32:26.159 get anything it related to me into the merch store, 3174 02:32:26.239 --> 02:32:27.760 So I'll try. I'll start that process. 3175 02:32:28.680 --> 02:32:30.920 This was my big thing for like a long time now. 3176 02:32:30.959 --> 02:32:33.159 We need logo shirts, Like why do we not have 3177 02:32:33.360 --> 02:32:34.000 logo shirts? 3178 02:32:34.040 --> 02:32:36.879 Like look at the logo shirts and we'll just, uh, well, 3179 02:32:37.120 --> 02:32:38.799 we'll tell him that he's in it, and then he'll 3180 02:32:38.840 --> 02:32:41.120 make a rich of it. That's how it works. 3181 02:32:41.600 --> 02:32:41.680 Uh. 3182 02:32:41.760 --> 02:32:43.559 That actually sounds awesome. And I do love that that 3183 02:32:43.719 --> 02:32:46.920 logo of the new redesign, so that'd be great. Martin 3184 02:32:47.000 --> 02:32:50.280 Hollis just wanted to say this cast is amazing. Love you, 3185 02:32:50.520 --> 02:32:53.399 Thank you, Martin. I've really enjoyed this episode. Hell yeah, 3186 02:32:53.840 --> 02:32:54.959 none of this is torture a. 3187 02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:57.559 Lot of work, but these guys make it easy. It's true. 3188 02:32:58.559 --> 02:33:02.760 Mitchie Pooh says, post clarity hit Collective shout hard, loll 3189 02:33:03.120 --> 02:33:07.879 shaking my head. I love that phrase. 3190 02:33:08.120 --> 02:33:10.000 I use it as often as I can. 3191 02:33:11.319 --> 02:33:14.040 It's also very because like they capitalized hard and then 3192 02:33:14.120 --> 02:33:16.319 following up with a lull shaking my head. 3193 02:33:16.920 --> 02:33:18.760 Just it's a perfect phrase. It's like all of that. 3194 02:33:18.879 --> 02:33:23.719 It's just so good together. Good job's refund. Yes, mar Martin. 3195 02:33:23.520 --> 02:33:26.280 Hollis is back with even more though. Jason f is 3196 02:33:26.319 --> 02:33:28.799 the sixth GB member. I love him, We love him too. 3197 02:33:28.920 --> 02:33:30.840 Thanks for he's actually he's good. Help us out all 3198 02:33:30.879 --> 02:33:32.879 week here. Oh you're gonna make them You're gonna make 3199 02:33:32.920 --> 02:33:33.959 them emotional again. 3200 02:33:34.559 --> 02:33:36.559 You weren't it though, I was supposed to be doing 3201 02:33:36.639 --> 02:33:37.959 this off air. 3202 02:33:38.120 --> 02:33:40.280 But thank you. That's very cool. I appreciate that. 3203 02:33:40.920 --> 02:33:43.479 Hell yeah for sure. 3204 02:33:44.840 --> 02:33:48.399 Simon from Saskatchewan said, watched Happy Gilmour again. Last time 3205 02:33:48.440 --> 02:33:50.680 must have been twenty years ago, and I just realized 3206 02:33:50.719 --> 02:33:53.000 his old boss with the nail in his head was 3207 02:33:53.239 --> 02:33:56.399 Jaws from Double O seven. Yes, that guy showed up 3208 02:33:56.440 --> 02:33:57.719 in quite quite a few things. 3209 02:33:57.639 --> 02:33:57.959 He was in. 3210 02:33:58.120 --> 02:34:01.840 That wasn't he also in that eighties drag Net movie 3211 02:34:01.920 --> 02:34:05.000 with Tom Hanks and Dan Probably. Yeah, that sounds right. 3212 02:34:05.399 --> 02:34:07.399 I used to watch the original drag Night all the time. 3213 02:34:07.440 --> 02:34:10.559 I only watch that movie once. The eighties Dragnet does 3214 02:34:10.680 --> 02:34:12.879 something to me, I don't know what it is like, 3215 02:34:13.959 --> 02:34:17.920 and it's like, I don't know. Yeah, huh, all right, 3216 02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:20.760 and then Nick Kearney with the last super chat. Here 3217 02:34:21.399 --> 02:34:23.840 is the Grand Turismo seven PC port that was in 3218 02:34:23.920 --> 02:34:27.280 the Nvidia leak Dead also bring back grub snacks. We 3219 02:34:27.360 --> 02:34:31.280 want hot game development leaks peas see. I'm working on 3220 02:34:31.559 --> 02:34:33.520 finding a way to make grub Snacks happen. Probably won't 3221 02:34:33.520 --> 02:34:36.639 be like a full hour long show, but maybe like 3222 02:34:36.680 --> 02:34:40.239 a bonus content for premium members where like you ask 3223 02:34:40.280 --> 02:34:42.760 a question and maybe I can address one question per 3224 02:34:42.840 --> 02:34:43.799 episode or something like. 3225 02:34:43.840 --> 02:34:47.319 That, almost like monthly Q and A or something. 3226 02:34:47.719 --> 02:34:49.440 Yeah, but but a little bit less the Q and 3227 02:34:49.479 --> 02:34:52.040 A more just specifically because it's not gonna behind the scenes. 3228 02:34:52.040 --> 02:34:56.000 It'll be like specifically me answering questions about the games 3229 02:34:56.040 --> 02:34:59.479 industry and stuff like that. Uh, grants was seven, I 3230 02:34:59.520 --> 02:35:03.120 forgot that on there. I don't know if it would 3231 02:35:03.159 --> 02:35:06.120 be dead, but it seems like it's been a long time. 3232 02:35:06.440 --> 02:35:08.200 I guess I don't. I haven't talk about the timeline 3233 02:35:08.399 --> 02:35:08.840 in a minute. 3234 02:35:08.959 --> 02:35:11.239 They released Strants Rismo SEV a little while ago, it's 3235 02:35:11.319 --> 02:35:12.559 just called fours Horizon five. 3236 02:35:13.159 --> 02:35:17.040 Ah, there it is. Yeah, I don't know. 3237 02:35:17.200 --> 02:35:19.319 They'll probably bring a Grand Rismo to PC eventually, so 3238 02:35:19.440 --> 02:35:21.479 I'll say this one's probably dead, and well maybe another 3239 02:35:21.520 --> 02:35:24.200 one comes to PC at PC at some point, we'll see. 3240 02:35:24.840 --> 02:35:26.879 All right, that does it for the super chats. I 3241 02:35:26.920 --> 02:35:29.079 think that's gonna do it for most of the show. 3242 02:35:29.239 --> 02:35:32.200 It but I just learned how to read the super 3243 02:35:32.319 --> 02:35:36.079 chats and I have missed one or two here, Okay, 3244 02:35:36.159 --> 02:35:38.639 let me refresh, let me see you here. Uh, maybe 3245 02:35:39.079 --> 02:35:41.479 maybe more came in after Nick. 3246 02:35:41.600 --> 02:35:43.639 There's three more. Oh yeah, look at that. 3247 02:35:43.639 --> 02:35:45.559 A bunch more came in. Okay, thank you appreciate that. 3248 02:35:45.840 --> 02:35:46.239 El Greg. 3249 02:35:46.360 --> 02:35:48.879 I'm surprised that jeffs aren't talking about hockey on Oops 3250 02:35:48.920 --> 02:35:51.920 all Jeff's Week, or that Jason and Jerff haven't kicked 3251 02:35:51.959 --> 02:35:54.559 Grub out of the Eastern time zone yet. You guys 3252 02:35:54.600 --> 02:35:58.280 aren't like Dan about that. Come on, I don't care. Yeah, 3253 02:35:58.319 --> 02:36:00.079 this dret's be crazy. Oh it's not Eastern time, but 3254 02:36:00.120 --> 02:36:02.360 it's also not the Midwest. It's where the fuck am I? 3255 02:36:02.879 --> 02:36:03.079 Yeah? 3256 02:36:03.360 --> 02:36:08.479 A where are you? A fair question? Yeah? B people 3257 02:36:08.520 --> 02:36:11.520 who get I mean, I think time zones are very frustrating, 3258 02:36:11.600 --> 02:36:14.159 and I don't think they should really exist. I think 3259 02:36:14.440 --> 02:36:16.280 if we were all just like grown ups, we could 3260 02:36:16.319 --> 02:36:20.760 have universal time. I'm one of those sichos. But to 3261 02:36:20.879 --> 02:36:23.479 be mad at it in a petulant way, that's not 3262 02:36:23.559 --> 02:36:25.879 surprising coming from man. 3263 02:36:26.719 --> 02:36:29.120 Consider your source here. I love the guy, but consider 3264 02:36:29.200 --> 02:36:34.440 your source. Oh yeah, honestly, I forget what time zone 3265 02:36:34.440 --> 02:36:36.360 you're on. So just hearing that your East Coast makes 3266 02:36:36.399 --> 02:36:37.959 things more convenient for me, that's fine. 3267 02:36:38.040 --> 02:36:40.360 I love that your East Coast. I love that it 3268 02:36:40.479 --> 02:36:43.360 works like I want to be in that draft. I 3269 02:36:43.520 --> 02:36:46.479 want you all right, cool, all right? That makes me 3270 02:36:46.520 --> 02:36:48.120 feel real good. I don't know what any of it means, 3271 02:36:48.200 --> 02:36:50.319 but I appreciate it. It just means like I want 3272 02:36:50.360 --> 02:36:55.200 you in my time zone. There's that entails, yeah, and 3273 02:36:58.680 --> 02:37:02.159 pleasures and luxuries. I come along with that, right exactly. 3274 02:37:04.239 --> 02:37:07.680 It's me though, is the Midwest thing that that's on? 3275 02:37:07.799 --> 02:37:10.239 That is like bickery Robin Mike about you guys are 3276 02:37:10.479 --> 02:37:15.520 more East than Kentucky. How are you Midwest? It's not. 3277 02:37:15.639 --> 02:37:17.040 It's just not how it works. First of all, the 3278 02:37:17.079 --> 02:37:20.280 state of the region. It's by the US. Since this 3279 02:37:20.440 --> 02:37:22.600 bureau came up with these names forever and it was. 3280 02:37:22.600 --> 02:37:25.000 Not US government is very good about all these things. 3281 02:37:25.319 --> 02:37:29.840 Well, yes, they took that name from the regional name 3282 02:37:29.879 --> 02:37:32.639 for itself, which was not the name, not the name Midwest. 3283 02:37:32.719 --> 02:37:35.280 To be clear, it's not that argument, not that old thing. 3284 02:37:35.399 --> 02:37:37.959 No. I just mean like the fact that Ohio is Midwest. 3285 02:37:38.000 --> 02:37:39.280 I don't know about that one, bud. 3286 02:37:40.079 --> 02:37:42.840 Well, I mean, it's it's part of the Midwest. Is 3287 02:37:42.879 --> 02:37:43.559 it Midwest? 3288 02:37:43.760 --> 02:37:45.479 No, But it's not a map. I always said, like 3289 02:37:45.559 --> 02:37:47.319 that's the thing where the name is not missing. 3290 02:37:47.639 --> 02:37:51.840 Direction Midwest is like a general direction, right, It's not 3291 02:37:52.040 --> 02:37:53.239 like it's a collection. 3292 02:37:53.319 --> 02:37:56.079 It's collection of states that were not quite the west 3293 02:37:56.239 --> 02:37:58.639 compared to the original thirteen colonies in the east coast. 3294 02:37:58.920 --> 02:38:00.639 It's like, all right, so we're going to it's midway 3295 02:38:00.719 --> 02:38:04.719 to the west as we knew it, which was Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas. 3296 02:38:04.879 --> 02:38:08.319 Kansas got added to Midwest later terch on Midwest. But 3297 02:38:10.680 --> 02:38:13.559 and then and then what happened is we continued manifest destiny, 3298 02:38:13.680 --> 02:38:15.840 expanded to the west, added a bunch of West coast 3299 02:38:16.200 --> 02:38:18.920 states and so now it all feels weird. And then 3300 02:38:19.040 --> 02:38:21.000 a bunch of states in the middle that were once 3301 02:38:21.079 --> 02:38:23.520 considered the West were like, well where do we go now? 3302 02:38:23.639 --> 02:38:25.399 And so well, I guess we're Midwest, and it kind 3303 02:38:25.440 --> 02:38:26.440 of just made everything confusing. 3304 02:38:27.200 --> 02:38:29.280 Like to be fair, when you do look at the 3305 02:38:29.399 --> 02:38:32.920 time zone map and you see like all a Michigan 3306 02:38:33.159 --> 02:38:34.200 in the East Coast. 3307 02:38:34.000 --> 02:38:36.680 You're like, what in the holy fuck have they done? 3308 02:38:36.840 --> 02:38:36.959 Right? 3309 02:38:37.440 --> 02:38:38.120 I think that's what it is. 3310 02:38:38.159 --> 02:38:40.479 It's like there's some the states in some people's heads 3311 02:38:40.520 --> 02:38:42.920 where it's like that, I thought that was way further 3312 02:38:43.000 --> 02:38:44.479 over that way. What do you talk about that's in 3313 02:38:44.520 --> 02:38:46.920 the same time zone as Connecticut. 3314 02:38:47.200 --> 02:38:50.600 Time zones may feel weird because yeah, there's like Michigan 3315 02:38:50.719 --> 02:38:52.680 is clearly what is considered Midwest. 3316 02:38:52.799 --> 02:38:54.920 Yeah, it's a vibe thing. You're right, it's just like. 3317 02:38:57.600 --> 02:38:58.200 And be done with it. 3318 02:38:59.719 --> 02:39:02.760 Well there is man the MIDI is too. 3319 02:39:06.239 --> 02:39:06.440 Yeah. 3320 02:39:06.879 --> 02:39:09.000 Yeah, and then Mountain in central No one ever cares 3321 02:39:09.120 --> 02:39:10.760 or knows when what time it is where you live. 3322 02:39:10.840 --> 02:39:13.959 So just I'm sorry on behalf of a West Coast 3323 02:39:14.000 --> 02:39:14.799 people speaking. 3324 02:39:15.000 --> 02:39:17.559 Time was a fun time to live in because of times, 3325 02:39:17.760 --> 02:39:20.600 because it's like sporting events would all happen at like 3326 02:39:21.040 --> 02:39:23.440 four PM and you would have the rest of your 3327 02:39:23.479 --> 02:39:26.879 evening to yourself and stuff like that. It was that yeah, 3328 02:39:29.239 --> 02:39:30.959 hockey game should go to the point where I'm so 3329 02:39:31.159 --> 02:39:32.959 tired I fall asleep overtime. 3330 02:39:33.200 --> 02:39:36.000 That's correct. Being out west and seeing a game start 3331 02:39:36.040 --> 02:39:38.440 at four PM and you're like this is. 3332 02:39:38.600 --> 02:39:42.239 Unholy Well, I'm like, I have to wake up at 3333 02:39:42.319 --> 02:39:44.120 nine am talking about it. 3334 02:39:44.760 --> 02:39:46.719 Yeah, it hasn't happened to me yet. But if I 3335 02:39:46.799 --> 02:39:48.879 am ever on the east, on the West coast for 3336 02:39:48.959 --> 02:39:51.280 a one pm Eagles game, my head's going, oh, yeah, 3337 02:39:51.559 --> 02:39:53.360 ten am. I don't know if I could do that. 3338 02:39:53.920 --> 02:39:56.840 Now you'll be tailgating at ten am. That's another story 3339 02:39:57.000 --> 02:40:00.239 that the game start. No, no, no, no tailgate getting 3340 02:40:00.239 --> 02:40:02.319 at seven a m. Let's be really right, of course? 3341 02:40:02.760 --> 02:40:03.159 Of course? 3342 02:40:03.959 --> 02:40:07.440 Fair enough? All right, what else we gotta grab? 3343 02:40:08.280 --> 02:40:08.559 Uh? No? 3344 02:40:08.719 --> 02:40:08.840 Oh? 3345 02:40:09.079 --> 02:40:10.520 Do we give any more super chats? 3346 02:40:10.559 --> 02:40:10.760 Yeah? 3347 02:40:10.760 --> 02:40:14.680 There was one more right right? Okay from Simon from Saskatchewan, Jeff, 3348 02:40:14.719 --> 02:40:18.840 what's the first six expansion NHL teams? Okay, I think 3349 02:40:18.879 --> 02:40:21.520 I ordered this differently. We talked about that, right the 3350 02:40:21.600 --> 02:40:24.879 for the original six No, No, the first six expansion 3351 02:40:25.079 --> 02:40:25.760 NHL teams? 3352 02:40:25.840 --> 02:40:28.399 Oh oh, I think I got? 3353 02:40:28.799 --> 02:40:31.200 Yeah, was Penguins is the one I got? 3354 02:40:31.680 --> 02:40:32.239 That felt right? 3355 02:40:32.280 --> 02:40:39.319 But yes, Penguins flyers right north Stars, right, that would 3356 02:40:39.360 --> 02:40:41.399 have been one of my guesses was the Minnesota I 3357 02:40:41.479 --> 02:40:42.079 will guess. 3358 02:40:43.440 --> 02:40:46.959 I think there's one that's weird, one or two. Maybe 3359 02:40:47.079 --> 02:40:52.360 there's six, and we did Flyers, Penguins, Stars, Nord. 3360 02:40:54.840 --> 02:40:59.520 Quebec, the Blues. 3361 02:41:00.120 --> 02:41:02.600 Is it the da that Blues? Let me double check, 3362 02:41:03.120 --> 02:41:03.840 but that sounds right. 3363 02:41:06.479 --> 02:41:09.040 A part of me wants Chad said Sabers. I think 3364 02:41:09.079 --> 02:41:09.879 that might be right. 3365 02:41:10.719 --> 02:41:13.600 One of the Blues, one of the six is not 3366 02:41:13.840 --> 02:41:16.280 called them. It doesn't exist anymore. 3367 02:41:16.399 --> 02:41:21.399 Yeah, there's always okay. The weird one is California Seals. Yeah, okay, 3368 02:41:21.559 --> 02:41:25.399 that's bizarre. Hey, okay, so did they wind up becoming 3369 02:41:25.440 --> 02:41:28.120 where they were just talking? I'll look into it, all right, 3370 02:41:28.200 --> 02:41:32.239 So what's the sixth one? Then Los Angeles Kings, the Kings, 3371 02:41:33.959 --> 02:41:34.479 that's right. 3372 02:41:34.799 --> 02:41:39.639 They became the Cleveland Barons. That's it. I don't exist, 3373 02:41:39.680 --> 02:41:40.000 that's it. 3374 02:41:40.040 --> 02:41:45.360 And then they died fucking okay? Cool? Well California Golden Seals, 3375 02:41:46.200 --> 02:41:49.079 yeah if I've heard it, Yeah, yeah, nuts, And that's 3376 02:41:49.159 --> 02:41:53.079 nineteen sixty seven, correct. They merge with the North Stars. 3377 02:41:53.719 --> 02:41:54.600 What does the how does that work? 3378 02:41:54.639 --> 02:41:55.920 How do you merge a team? 3379 02:41:56.920 --> 02:41:59.760 The two one combined and went to Dallas yeah, okay, 3380 02:42:00.040 --> 02:42:00.959 become the stars. 3381 02:42:00.760 --> 02:42:02.680 Right downstairs, which they are today. 3382 02:42:03.079 --> 02:42:06.680 Yeah, I'm interesting. Okay, so that happened, weird. I got 3383 02:42:06.719 --> 02:42:08.280 a great idea hockey in Texas. 3384 02:42:09.120 --> 02:42:13.280 Okay, it's worked out, okay for them someone. Yeah, thank 3385 02:42:13.319 --> 02:42:17.399 you so very much for tuning in, Turbo Sean, thank 3386 02:42:17.440 --> 02:42:20.280 you so much for being here. Anything to tell the 3387 02:42:20.360 --> 02:42:21.520 people before we let you go? 3388 02:42:22.639 --> 02:42:22.799 Uh? 3389 02:42:23.319 --> 02:42:25.559 Do you want me to talk about my video going 3390 02:42:25.680 --> 02:42:29.079 up at the end of the show. Yeah, yeah, I'll 3391 02:42:29.120 --> 02:42:32.239 say now, because I'm gonna be at EVO all weekend, 3392 02:42:32.319 --> 02:42:34.200 so I'm heading out tomorrow. That's why I'm not gonna 3393 02:42:34.200 --> 02:42:36.520 be here. If you're gonna be at EVO, make sure 3394 02:42:36.559 --> 02:42:39.079 to say hi. I don't bite. I'm going to be 3395 02:42:39.120 --> 02:42:41.360 doing some work stuff, so I'll have some fun stuff 3396 02:42:41.399 --> 02:42:41.920 to bring back. 3397 02:42:42.319 --> 02:42:43.879 It's not surely me last year. 3398 02:42:45.399 --> 02:42:50.280 Special case Jason. I'm going to have some videos. I'm 3399 02:42:50.319 --> 02:42:55.200 going to have some articles on gibomb dot com. We 3400 02:42:55.280 --> 02:42:56.319 haven't done those in a while. 3401 02:42:56.799 --> 02:42:57.239 That's a thing. 3402 02:42:57.959 --> 02:43:00.280 That's a thing we turns out we can write, believe 3403 02:43:00.280 --> 02:43:03.120 it or not. That's gonna be fun too. Gonna have 3404 02:43:03.120 --> 02:43:05.200 some fun stuff to bring back. But also, if you're 3405 02:43:05.239 --> 02:43:06.959 in the mood for fighting games. You know, hear me 3406 02:43:07.040 --> 02:43:09.159 and Jason talk about all of them. Evo coming up. 3407 02:43:09.520 --> 02:43:12.120 I have a video going up right after the BombCast 3408 02:43:12.280 --> 02:43:15.079 is done here live, so I'm just gonna hit the 3409 02:43:15.079 --> 02:43:19.239 switch on what it's like to be at EVO. The 3410 02:43:19.840 --> 02:43:21.920 all the footage that I filmed last year, I've now 3411 02:43:22.040 --> 02:43:25.479 repurposed a little bit gonna be It's an evergreen video 3412 02:43:25.799 --> 02:43:28.440 that's like a first person account of what it's like 3413 02:43:28.520 --> 02:43:33.120 to be there and parch partially like a beginner's guide 3414 02:43:33.159 --> 02:43:35.159 to EVO if you were looking to go for the 3415 02:43:35.200 --> 02:43:36.959 first time. If you are going for the first time, 3416 02:43:37.239 --> 02:43:39.440 you can sort of know what to expect. Had some 3417 02:43:39.559 --> 02:43:43.399 interviews with some fun people in there. I interviewed gyle 3418 02:43:43.479 --> 02:43:46.959 Win Quote the YouTuber. I interviewed Chopper from our friends 3419 02:43:47.000 --> 02:43:50.360 at New Game Plus. I interviewed my artist buddy David 3420 02:43:50.440 --> 02:43:54.559 lou and mentioned earlier on the podcast Mark Man. All 3421 02:43:54.639 --> 02:43:57.559 of those people talked a little bit in the video. 3422 02:43:58.319 --> 02:44:01.319 I think it's a really fun one. It's only seventeen minutes, 3423 02:44:01.360 --> 02:44:02.959 so definitely check that out when you're done with the 3424 02:44:03.000 --> 02:44:03.680 BombCast today. 3425 02:44:04.840 --> 02:44:07.559 Hell yeah, and. 3426 02:44:09.120 --> 02:44:10.680 Right yeah earlier today. 3427 02:44:10.879 --> 02:44:15.399 Yeah, okay, that is correct. Uh, Jason Finelli. Everyone give 3428 02:44:15.440 --> 02:44:19.079 it up. Long time, well overdue appearance on the BombCast. 3429 02:44:19.159 --> 02:44:21.760 Thank you so much for being here, buddy, you were fantastic. 3430 02:44:22.000 --> 02:44:23.079 Where can people find you? 3431 02:44:23.840 --> 02:44:26.639 I am at Jason Finelli dot com on Blue Sky 3432 02:44:27.000 --> 02:44:29.159 was able to get that domain, but big Man Finelle 3433 02:44:29.600 --> 02:44:34.200 everywhere else. I will be watching EVO uh here in 3434 02:44:34.319 --> 02:44:37.159 the basement as of right now. Still not still trying 3435 02:44:37.159 --> 02:44:38.600 to figure out a way there, but it's looking less 3436 02:44:38.600 --> 02:44:40.280 and less likely as the days go on. 3437 02:44:40.479 --> 02:44:41.440 But I think. 3438 02:44:44.559 --> 02:44:45.000 I moved. 3439 02:44:45.120 --> 02:44:45.959 I got to stop moving. 3440 02:44:46.719 --> 02:44:47.079 Moved. 3441 02:44:48.319 --> 02:44:52.360 So yeah, so I might actually I might actually stream 3442 02:44:52.360 --> 02:44:54.799 a little bit stream some EVO stream some live reactions 3443 02:44:54.879 --> 02:44:59.000 watch uh stream, Oh there you go. Friday is the 3444 02:44:59.000 --> 02:45:01.440 big showcase where they a bunch of reveals and talks 3445 02:45:01.440 --> 02:45:03.639 and stuff like that, and then Finals Day is always 3446 02:45:03.719 --> 02:45:06.879 fun because there's reveals mixed in with the actual matches 3447 02:45:06.959 --> 02:45:10.120 and the energy in that room if you're listening, well, 3448 02:45:10.520 --> 02:45:12.040 what the frig is going on here? 3449 02:45:12.159 --> 02:45:13.399 Really? This whole time? 3450 02:45:14.079 --> 02:45:16.159 This whole time. At least the recording will be fine. 3451 02:45:16.479 --> 02:45:18.520 But it's the New Jersey and the Philly Internet. 3452 02:45:18.719 --> 02:45:21.879 Just head there are butting heads. It was it was 3453 02:45:22.000 --> 02:45:24.319 bound to happen. To the person that put that in chat, 3454 02:45:24.399 --> 02:45:29.920 you jackass. But yeah, so I'll be watching Evo. I 3455 02:45:30.000 --> 02:45:32.479 got a couple of reviews going up soon, Bonanza for 3456 02:45:32.639 --> 02:45:35.600 MMRPG that should be done now that I finished the 3457 02:45:35.639 --> 02:45:39.440 game Shadow Labyrinth and reviewing that as well. And yeah, 3458 02:45:39.600 --> 02:45:44.440 if you if you like video games, wrestling or stupid 3459 02:45:44.520 --> 02:45:48.479 memes or pictures of cute kids and family fun, that's 3460 02:45:48.479 --> 02:45:50.120 where you can see on my social media because that's 3461 02:45:50.120 --> 02:45:52.920 what I usually post. And uh yeah, having a good time. 3462 02:45:53.799 --> 02:45:56.399 Hell yeah, thank you very much, Jason Grubb. What have 3463 02:45:56.479 --> 02:45:59.239 we got left on the docket for the rest of 3464 02:45:59.559 --> 02:46:02.719 the week. Yes, so look out for Game Mess Mornings 3465 02:46:02.719 --> 02:46:04.600 for the rest of the week. I'll have a good career, 3466 02:46:04.680 --> 02:46:05.719 are you, Jason? 3467 02:46:05.760 --> 02:46:09.559 I having you on again later this week tomorrow tomorrow, okay, yes, 3468 02:46:09.680 --> 02:46:13.760 that sounds right. And then we are gonna have a 3469 02:46:14.280 --> 02:46:17.079 voicemail dump truck on Thursday. We're gonna do a Delight 3470 02:46:17.159 --> 02:46:20.440 club on Wednesday instead of the traditional Blake Club. I 3471 02:46:20.479 --> 02:46:22.719 think I'm gonna play some James Bond. Dan gave me 3472 02:46:22.799 --> 02:46:25.360 that Everything or Nothing game. Uh, I have back of 3473 02:46:25.399 --> 02:46:27.479 our cinema down. I mean we'll yeah, we'll hang out 3474 02:46:27.520 --> 02:46:30.200 for a little bit and then for you PF we'll 3475 02:46:30.239 --> 02:46:32.760 hang out. We got some ideas, maybe that panel paddle 3476 02:46:32.760 --> 02:46:34.399 paddle game. There's a bunch of other stuff we could do. 3477 02:46:34.799 --> 02:46:37.479 I'm also gonna maybe try to stuff some grinditude in 3478 02:46:37.559 --> 02:46:40.200 here somewhere, but we'll have to see where. But yeah, 3479 02:46:40.200 --> 02:46:41.760 it's gonna be as good of a week as we 3480 02:46:41.799 --> 02:46:44.280 could pull off with the crew all out on assignment 3481 02:46:44.520 --> 02:46:47.719 and more leaving us you know, by the minute. So yeah, 3482 02:46:47.799 --> 02:46:50.200 look looking forward to it. But yeah, very good BombCast. 3483 02:46:50.639 --> 02:46:53.280 Glad to hang out with you guys. Hell yes, also, 3484 02:46:54.159 --> 02:46:58.079 uh Thursday on dump Truck we will be joined by 3485 02:46:58.159 --> 02:47:02.399 Vinnie Caravella and Alex the Varro. Hey wait, you couldn't 3486 02:47:02.399 --> 02:47:03.000 get the hat trick. 3487 02:47:04.040 --> 02:47:06.440 Uh No, Brad and I are having a fight and 3488 02:47:06.600 --> 02:47:10.879 we just we'll figure it out. If we can't have 3489 02:47:11.000 --> 02:47:13.840 them on together, too powerful, it's too powerful. We'll figure 3490 02:47:13.840 --> 02:47:15.079 out the time to get Brad on as well. 3491 02:47:16.079 --> 02:47:19.719 But yeah, that's for Thursday, and yeah it'll be a 3492 02:47:19.760 --> 02:47:20.200 lot of fun. 3493 02:47:20.360 --> 02:47:22.600 Stay with us and head over to GiantBomb dot com 3494 02:47:22.680 --> 02:47:26.079 slash join, support the business, support the content, support us, 3495 02:47:26.520 --> 02:47:31.000 and we'll keep continuing all of this excellent stuff. Thank 3496 02:47:31.040 --> 02:47:33.440 you so much again to Jason and Sehan for helping 3497 02:47:33.559 --> 02:47:36.000 us out today. We will be back with a brand 3498 02:47:36.000 --> 02:47:39.120 new episode next week and most of the gangs should 3499 02:47:39.120 --> 02:47:42.440 be back then as well. Until then, see you next 3500 02:47:42.479 --> 02:48:03.399 time everyone. By night, Jeantem for taking