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<v Speaker 1>Jis and New Yorker.

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<v Speaker 2>Toxi. I'm around.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the seventy seven WABC Mini Cast. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>into the stone Zone right here on the Roger Stone Show.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a political junkie, you're in the right place.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have a very heated primary for governor of

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<v Speaker 3>Florida going on in a couple of weeks. Early voting

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<v Speaker 3>started this weekend in some counties, started a little earlier

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<v Speaker 3>in some other counties, and it's getting quite contentious.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>To talk about that and a number of other things

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<v Speaker 3>is my colleague Troy Smith, the editor and publisher of

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<v Speaker 3>Slingshot Dot News and a Sage political analyst of the

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<v Speaker 3>national and state scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Troy welcoming back into the Stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Zone, Rodre. As always, it's an honor to join you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that you are a political junkie as

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<v Speaker 1>I am. So this Florida race heating up as we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the finish line here, I'm paying attention, You're

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention. Can't wait to get into this here. Wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get your thoughts on just a few days out here,

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<v Speaker 1>where you think this thing is going to end up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's very important that some people release lose perspective

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<v Speaker 3>between let's call it the twitter verse or the blogger

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<v Speaker 3>sphere and the real world. Those are two different things.

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<v Speaker 3>So political stuff going on on Twitter, while it's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>and provocative and sometimes bunging, that doesn't mean that the

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<v Speaker 3>average Republican primary voter, who by the way, is sixty,

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<v Speaker 3>the average age is almost seventy. That's the average age.

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<v Speaker 3>So when people keep talking about the young vote in

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican primary, sure there are some we want more,

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<v Speaker 3>but this is an older electric. They're not hanging on

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<v Speaker 3>x or Instagram or any other popular social media platforms.

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<v Speaker 3>You have three candidates here. Byron Donalds is in a

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<v Speaker 3>commanding position. He has not only the endorsement of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>but he has amassed an incredible campaign war chess, which

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to need even in red Florida. And what

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<v Speaker 3>will be could be I think will be a difficult

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<v Speaker 3>deal for all Republicans because we are forced to stop

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<v Speaker 3>the Iranians from afaghan nuclear weapon. If we cared more

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<v Speaker 3>about elections and getting re elected and not caring about

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<v Speaker 3>whether America will be the target of a nuclear attack,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we could not do that. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 3>that a little bit later. But the other two candidates

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<v Speaker 3>and is Vice Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins seems like a

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<v Speaker 3>very nice guy, served his country with honor, but has

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<v Speaker 3>never gotten I think what was probably the promised endorsement

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<v Speaker 3>and support of Ron DeSantis. De santis master plan, as

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is to run his wife, Casey DeSantis for governor.

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<v Speaker 3>This is very much like ler Lean Wallace.

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<v Speaker 2>Ran for governor of Alabama. Was elected. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>it was considered a pretty good governor.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's because George is really running things. After George Wallace,

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<v Speaker 3>the Alabama governor and independent presidential candidate, couldn't under their

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<v Speaker 3>state constitution run.

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<v Speaker 2>For another term.

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<v Speaker 3>But that plan was destroyed when Ron DeSantis and Casey

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<v Speaker 3>DeSantis and our current Attorney General James Uthmeyer siphoned ten

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars in money federal money earmarked for the poor,

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<v Speaker 3>the elderly, and the handicapped out of Medicare and into

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<v Speaker 3>a dark money committee, where they then funneled it into

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<v Speaker 3>the campaigns against two statewide constitutional amendments that they opposed,

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<v Speaker 3>one of them having to do with the legalization of cannabis,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is, of course fraud. They avoided this is

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<v Speaker 3>through something called the Hope Foundation. When the governors first

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<v Speaker 3>asked about it, his first instinct was to say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my wife's deal, like he knew nothing about it

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<v Speaker 3>through his own wife under the bus. I thought that

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<v Speaker 3>was hysterical. But the state legislature investigated. The committee clearly

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<v Speaker 3>proved that they had illegally taken ten million dollars. They

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<v Speaker 3>avoided federal indictment because they replaced the money, but they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't replace the money from their own funds or political funds.

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<v Speaker 3>The replacement of the money came from state taxpayers. So

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<v Speaker 3>this scandal prevented the possibility of Casey Santus running for governor.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus and all honesty, Ron DeSantis has worn out his

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<v Speaker 3>fundraising capability. He had a well funded run for president

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<v Speaker 3>because he was able to escort money from the utilities

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<v Speaker 3>and the insurance industry, particularly in Florida. He's worn out

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<v Speaker 3>his welcome with the legislature, retired of being bullied, fairly

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<v Speaker 3>popular despite his knife in the back to the man

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<v Speaker 3>who made him governor. You've heard me say that Ron

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<v Speaker 3>was an undistinguished congressman running in single digits against the

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<v Speaker 3>favorite Adam Puttnam State Agriculture commissioner until Matt Gates, end

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<v Speaker 3>of mine, talked to President Trump into endorsing the little

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<v Speaker 3>known Congressman Ron DeSantis. Trump never knew that DeSantis in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen, when they were both on the ticket together

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<v Speaker 3>post convention, had refused to endorse Trump. Trump didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>that Ron DeSantis was informed by the FEDS that mar

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<v Speaker 3>Lago was going to be raided graded, but did not

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<v Speaker 3>have his lawyers have give Trump's lawyers heads up, which

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<v Speaker 3>there would be nothing inappropriate about. And then, of course

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<v Speaker 3>he challenged the man who made him. But to get

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<v Speaker 3>back to the race here, DeSantis has not endorsed any candidate,

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<v Speaker 3>including his own lieutenant governor, who he appointed to a

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<v Speaker 3>vacancy when when the lieutenant governor de pardon me, the

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<v Speaker 3>attorney General resigned to take the US Senate seat, and

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<v Speaker 3>DeSantis appointed his counsel, James Uthmeyer, a man deeply involved

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<v Speaker 3>in the movement of those illegal funds. So this, I

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<v Speaker 3>think explains why there is no Desantius candidate for governor.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's a former Speaker, Paul Renner, who has

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<v Speaker 3>a very conservative record, seems like a very decent fellow

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<v Speaker 3>really be He's raised substantial money, but not as much

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<v Speaker 3>money as it takes to compete in the states as

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<v Speaker 3>expensive as Florida, which is a huge state. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>Renner would be an excellent Renner would be an excellent

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<v Speaker 3>appointment to the office of Secretary of State, which the

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<v Speaker 3>governor is entitled do. If Byron Donalds is elected governor.

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<v Speaker 3>But then there's an interesting candidate, let's call him, an

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<v Speaker 3>eccentric and provocative candidate named James Fishback. Fishback seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be an internet phenomena and polling of the real world.

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<v Speaker 3>I must tell you he doesn't fare very well online polls.

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<v Speaker 3>He's doing great, We're told the young people are for him.

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<v Speaker 3>He has been a pretty aggressive critic of Israel and

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<v Speaker 3>our foreign policy. We'll talk about that in a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>He made a wild accusation last week that Byron Donalds

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<v Speaker 3>was currently under federal investigation for sex trafficking. He built

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<v Speaker 3>it up with a big press conference and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of predictions about what the bombshell he was going to drop,

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<v Speaker 3>but the US Justice Department immediately put out a statement

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<v Speaker 3>saying that it was completely and totally false. So look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Byron Donald's cruises to this nomination, and he

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<v Speaker 3>has got a solid record as a conservative, and I think, nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 3>because of the year, I think he's in for an

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<v Speaker 3>uphill fight. He will be extremely well funded, and he

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<v Speaker 3>is a fighter. The Democrats are in tough shape. It's

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<v Speaker 3>hard to believe that the party of Luton Childs, who

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<v Speaker 3>was both governor and senator, the Party of Rubin Askew

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<v Speaker 3>was governor and a presidential contender, the party of Leroy Collins,

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<v Speaker 3>the legendary former Miami governor of Florida. They couldn't come

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<v Speaker 3>up with anybody as a kid other than a former

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<v Speaker 3>Republican Congressman David Jolly, who's now a Democrat and a

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<v Speaker 3>lobbyist who seems to be running on transgenderism as his

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<v Speaker 3>key issue. So, uh again, We're gonna follow this race

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<v Speaker 3>very quickly. I guess what I'm saying Eutroy is that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that Fishback will perform on election day

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<v Speaker 3>on primary day the way he's performing online. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think these kind of gotcha politics are not healthy for

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<v Speaker 3>the system.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I agree with you, Roger, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>actions of ron Cassandras in this race really points to

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<v Speaker 1>who he really is. You've been talking about it for years,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you know any of these reports come out

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<v Speaker 1>the usually launce himself that he's being considered for some

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<v Speaker 1>position in Washington, d C. We talk about it every time,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that this guy backstab President Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>ran against him in twenty twenty four, told Americans one

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<v Speaker 1>reason why President Trump couldn't be a great leader, and

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<v Speaker 1>then refused to endorse him. And we've covered that for years,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I. But just his actions a few days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this, Roger. He came

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<v Speaker 1>out and basically said that Paul Renner would be a

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<v Speaker 1>great governor and gave a soft not a total endorsement,

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<v Speaker 1>but like a soft endorsement of Paul Renner. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Collins, his own lieutenant governor, goes to the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>and say this basically, what's going on here, This is

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<v Speaker 1>my governor. I have volunteered to become lieutenant governor after

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<v Speaker 1>he allowed his lieutenant governor to go out and become

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<v Speaker 1>part of this university systemicsion questions about that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have Jay Collins, who is DeSantis's lieutenant governor,

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<v Speaker 1>and then DeSantis comes in and praises Paul Renner. It

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<v Speaker 1>just shows that lack of loyalty and why Ron DeSantis

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<v Speaker 1>should never be considered for something at a high higher

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<v Speaker 1>office or anything like that nature. This guy does not

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<v Speaker 1>have loyalty in his DNA. As they say, Roger, he

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<v Speaker 1>is a backstabber. He is somebody who has overseen utility

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<v Speaker 1>rates to their highest levels. In Florida, we pay the

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<v Speaker 1>highest of the nation, whether you're talking about people's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>different fees and things like that with the state. And

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<v Speaker 1>then not to mention when it comes to the mismanagement

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<v Speaker 1>of many things on the state level. Of the ten

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars that you talk about that was siphoned to

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Desantles's charity, I mean, there's so many examples here, but.

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<v Speaker 3>This istility utility rates, utility rates the highest in the

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<v Speaker 3>country because Ron took nine million from Florida Power and

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<v Speaker 3>Light and its subsidies. Insurance rates the highest in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>He's signed a bill. So if your home is destroyed

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<v Speaker 3>by a hurricane and you don't like what the governor

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<v Speaker 3>got with the insurance payer company offers you you can't

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<v Speaker 3>sue them. Round Santis signed that into law. Republicans, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>are just as guilty. You know, it's always ansure on

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<v Speaker 3>the Internet. People tell me he's the best governor in

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<v Speaker 3>the country. I usually check and see that many of

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<v Speaker 3>them don't live in Florida. He's been good on some issues,

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<v Speaker 3>I would and he's certainly notably better than Andrew Gillim,

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<v Speaker 3>who I read yesterday is now back in prison for

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<v Speaker 3>his being caught and tested positive for meth amphetamine. We

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<v Speaker 3>wish him the best in his recovery. The other thing

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<v Speaker 3>I think is interesting, Troy, that I want to touch on,

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<v Speaker 3>because you've been through a campaign. You go to your

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<v Speaker 3>mailbox and you get seventeen individual big floppy mailings for

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<v Speaker 3>candidates for the state Assembly, for a state representative, for Congress,

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<v Speaker 3>for governor, and there are so many of them, and

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<v Speaker 3>politicians use them, but and political consultants love them because

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<v Speaker 3>the markup is very lucrative. But they're completely and totally ineffective.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, as someone who you know who got a

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<v Speaker 3>degree or I should say studied marketing and went and

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<v Speaker 3>started as a direct mail copywriter, I raised seven million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars through the mail for Ronald Reagan. That is not

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<v Speaker 3>direct mail. Those big floppy pieces, they're so oversaturated they

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<v Speaker 3>have no impact, no matter how outrageous the headline is.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, mail is a close face envelope that appears

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<v Speaker 3>to be hand addressed. Your computer programming. Do that in

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<v Speaker 3>the upper left hand corner is just your return address.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't say Troy Smith for Congress. When you open

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<v Speaker 3>it up. It's a three page letter folded in a

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<v Speaker 3>is the letter head, not Chroic Smith for Congress. Has

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<v Speaker 3>the appropriate disclaimer at the very end of the letter,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is a it's in a chatty conversational tone.

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<v Speaker 3>But the more you tell, the more you sell. As

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<v Speaker 3>they say in direct marketing, you have a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>make your case. I often include a picture postcard of

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<v Speaker 3>the candidate and his wife, or the kididate and her husband,

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<v Speaker 3>direct mail, and you can even get a bulk stamp

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<v Speaker 3>and put it on slightly crooked so that people open it. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>think about it. When you go to mailbox, what's the

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<v Speaker 3>One is a pile of things you're going to throw away,

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<v Speaker 3>the Sam's clud flyer, the car wash flyer, the political flyers.

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<v Speaker 3>or other things. You're not sure what they are, but

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<v Speaker 3>going to open. That is direct mail. It's expensive with

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<v Speaker 3>effective in Republican primaries where older voters will open an

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back and talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About cable and why it's changed the face of politics,

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<v Speaker 3>talk about these text messages that no doubt, if you

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<v Speaker 3>live in Florida, you get fifteen Umber Day telling you

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<v Speaker 3>who to vote for. These are all the mechanics of

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<v Speaker 3>politics that I have fifty years experience in, and I

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<v Speaker 3>see him playing out right here in this Florida governor's race.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back with Troy Smith. Troy, welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>into the Stone zone here on the Rogerstone Show. The

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<v Speaker 3>US Senate confirmed Trump attorney and Acting Attorney General Todd

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<v Speaker 3>Blanche as Attorney General on August eighth, twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 3>by a vote of fifty to forty nine. This was

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<v Speaker 3>only after Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski bailed out on him,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think was a disgraceful. Blanche brings an unusual

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<v Speaker 3>set of qualifications to job. He kind of knows federal

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution from both sides of the courtroom. He spent many

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<v Speaker 3>years as a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of

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<v Speaker 3>New York, one of the toughest districts, before entering private

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<v Speaker 3>practice and a very successful criminal defense practice, specifically representing

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump very ably in three criminal cases brought against

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<v Speaker 3>him in twenty twenty three twenty twenty four, the so

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<v Speaker 3>called law Fair cases. So he's seen firsthand how formidable

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<v Speaker 3>the federal prosecutorial apparatus can be when it is biased

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<v Speaker 3>and twisted, and where the system is manipulated for a

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<v Speaker 3>politically targeted individual. In my view, Todd Watch is a

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<v Speaker 3>tough guy. What he really needs to do is by

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<v Speaker 3>confronting the institutional wreckage left by the Trump Russian investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>Just this week, we learned even more about the abuses

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<v Speaker 3>of the FBI opening an investigation of Donald Trump for

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<v Speaker 3>being a Russian asset with no probable cause or evidence

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<v Speaker 3>to justify, because they were angry that he had fired

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<v Speaker 3>James call Me Me over his illegal handling of the

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<v Speaker 3>Hillary Clinton server file a case yet so. Yet another

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<v Speaker 3>piece of evidence that this was that this was a setup.

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<v Speaker 3>Telsea Gabber, the crusading Director of National Intelligence. He classified

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<v Speaker 3>all the documents that showed that he was a conspicitious conspiracist,

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<v Speaker 3>included Donald Trump. A party of pardon me included Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 3>included FBI director James call Mey, CIA director John Brennan,

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<v Speaker 2>Of the ring leaders of this conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>National Director of Intelligence, Doctor General James Clapper, the White

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<v Speaker 3>particularly the acting Attorney general Trump appointe. There's very definitely

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<v Speaker 3>proven both in the Durham and investigation and in the

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<v Speaker 3>Inspector General's report by Michael Horror, which both of which,

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<v Speaker 3>never has subpoena power. How do you get to the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom of a scandal without subpoena power. And we know

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<v Speaker 3>to some extens that Horowitz whitewashed quite a bit. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is the greatest single dirty trick in American political history,

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest single abuse of power. But because it began

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<v Speaker 3>in Washington, d c. In twenty sixteen and seventeen, takes

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<v Speaker 3>you all the way through the two phony impeachments. Tolcy

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<v Speaker 3>Gabbert documented that as well, all the way to the

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<v Speaker 3>manipulation of the twenty twenty election. Then the set of

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<v Speaker 3>warfare of lawfare and Trump against against Trump in New York,

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<v Speaker 3>the evaluations case, the Egene Carol sexual assault case, the

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<v Speaker 3>hush money case, all orchestrated by the Biden Justice Department.

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<v Speaker 3>People have to be prosecuted for these crimes. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a treason's crime. There was no evidence justifying the appointment

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<v Speaker 3>of Robert Muller justifying the three year harassment of Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump where his rights were violated, and people are either

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<v Speaker 3>they invited the law and the constitution. They're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to jail when they're not. Now, if you're Trump

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<v Speaker 3>supporter or a Trump critic, you say, well, this is

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<v Speaker 3>revenge and retaliation. No, I say that it is accountability

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<v Speaker 3>and justice. Otherwise we have a two year justice system.

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<v Speaker 3>I was prosecuted for lying to Congress when no misstatement

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<v Speaker 3>I meant to made to Congress was either wilful or material.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no Russian collusion to hide. So how could

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<v Speaker 3>the judge say, Roger Stone, you're convicted of hiding, covering

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<v Speaker 3>up for Donald Trump, covering up what. No coordination or

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<v Speaker 3>communications or shift of information from Wiki leaps and no

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<v Speaker 3>Russian collusion. Those are the facts. So here's the question

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<v Speaker 3>for Tom Bunch, and I think he's up to it,

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<v Speaker 3>confident about this. Will people be brought to justice? This

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<v Speaker 3>is being investigated in Southern District of Florida because it

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<v Speaker 3>ends in the rate at Marlago. That's why the jurisdiction

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<v Speaker 2>And Joe D.

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<v Speaker 3>Genova, an incredibly able former US attorney's been added to

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<v Speaker 3>many important things that Todd Branch has to do in

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<v Speaker 3>my view. Troy, I'm sorry for the soliloquy, but I

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back for the shocking story of Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>communist organ harvesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna blow your mind, Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back for the shocking story of Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna blow your mind.