Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to game Breaking News with me Jeff Grub,
Speaker 1: your host from GiantBomb dot com. Thank you for tuning in.
Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to be talking about PlayStation
Speaker 1: five getting another price increase. We'll try to make it
Speaker 1: a good one for you. It will be because Emma
Speaker 1: Fife is on the show. Emma, how are you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm just great, Grub. I lost my mind over the weekend.
Speaker 3: Oh but I did go to a.
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders and AOC fighting the Oligarchy rally Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: which was their biggest one yet, thirty six thousand people.
Speaker 2: All those numbers, and that might only be counting the
Speaker 2: people that actually were like in the perimeter, because there
Speaker 2: were a bunch of people that were on the outside
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was rad.
Speaker 2: Joan Bias played and so like I truly felt like
Speaker 2: I was at a rally from the seventies in an
Speaker 2: amazing way. Yes, you're right, liberal games media strikes again,
Speaker 2: that's me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, it was. It was awesome, and uh
Speaker 3: yeah it was it just like it was.
Speaker 2: It was so like chill like again, like people were
Speaker 2: obviously amped up, but like the vibes were very like
Speaker 2: peaceful and we're gonna yeah again. It was like very seventies,
Speaker 2: like give piece a chance, everybody singing. Imagine like this
Speaker 2: is truly what happened over the weekend. So that was
Speaker 2: pretty amazing. Yeah, and then Bernie went to Coachella, so
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my understanding. Those you've got obsessed with something though. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I became a bit of a PopMart collector over the weekend.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: So PopMart is this, It's just a store that sells
Speaker 2: cute licensed stuff. So they have like a really cute
Speaker 2: line of DC Justice League figures. They have a line
Speaker 2: that they did with like powerpuff Girls. Again, it's like
Speaker 2: a lot of licensed things, but similar to a Sanrio,
Speaker 2: except that they didn't create these characters. They also have
Speaker 2: some just kind of mascot characters. They're not from anything else,
Speaker 2: person say, or they're from like I don't know, a
Speaker 2: like Chinese artist put them in a book kind of thing,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, so I became irrevocably of Okay, so
Speaker 2: somebody in chat knows what I'm talking about, because there's
Speaker 2: I can't afford the Giant Chopper, and specifically it is
Speaker 2: the Giant Chopper.
Speaker 3: That is Labooboo, which is the creature that has blown up.
Speaker 2: The girls are going wild for Labooboo right now, Okay,
Speaker 2: and I say girls is an all encompassing term. That's
Speaker 2: so I spent my entire Friday trying to get No.
Speaker 1: I didn't entire Friday because I was working, Okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is Labuoboo, and yeah from Dynasty Warriors.
Speaker 3: Okay, different than Lubu from Dynasty Warriors.
Speaker 2: This is la Booboo and she is a little elf
Speaker 2: creature based on Nordic mythology by a uh Chinese artist.
Speaker 2: I'm blanking on the first name, but Loung is his
Speaker 2: last name. And the girl she is, she is the
Speaker 2: moment everyone is trying to get one of these. Uh.
Speaker 3: They sell out immediately.
Speaker 2: On Poshmark Poshmark, I mean they're on Poshmark, Tube, Pop,
Speaker 2: No Climax and Chat. I see you asking about Taykoko,
Speaker 2: and I've become completely obsessed with Tychoko. I literally bought
Speaker 2: a lanyard during a Pop Mart TikTok live stream last night.
Speaker 2: I bought some Blindebox lanyards that are in the Labuobu
Speaker 2: series because one of them is Tychoko.
Speaker 3: So Tychoko is also from the.
Speaker 2: Monsters series, and Taykoko is a little skeleton and it's
Speaker 2: like Labooboo's little boyfriend who she's constantly tormenting.
Speaker 3: It's bad, I've gone crazy.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's like a a beanie baby sort
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 3: It's totally a beautye baby thing all over again.
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing is that, like I want to
Speaker 2: get more, but I want to like show up at
Speaker 2: a pop mart vending machine which they call roboshops at
Speaker 2: the exact right time to just finally to just like
Speaker 2: find one. You know what it is though, It's like
Speaker 2: there's something fun about it because there is the like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's the like physical aspect of it
Speaker 2: and the fact that you can maybe come across them
Speaker 2: in the wild because it is that like beanie baby thing,
Speaker 2: and in a world where.
Speaker 3: So much is where so much is digital, this feels,
Speaker 3: I don't know, this feels kind of fun.
Speaker 2: I got a Yes, I got a Pucky also, So
Speaker 2: this is Pucky also from their line. Pucky is like
Speaker 2: a little baby character, but this is Pucky in a
Speaker 2: cat costume.
Speaker 3: And I got this from the Robust shop. So, okay,
Speaker 3: I've lost it.
Speaker 1: I've totally lost it, but you caught me up because
Speaker 1: I definitely have seen some of these little fellows on
Speaker 1: my timelines here or there, and I just like was
Speaker 1: scrolling past it. Now when I see it, La Boo Boo,
Speaker 1: Is that the character's name?
Speaker 3: Boo Boo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm seeing is a future uh uh a
Speaker 1: costume for Mike Manatti.
Speaker 4: Clearly they have the same exact.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, La Boo boo, this this little elf girl
Speaker 2: and Mike Manatti basically the same person.
Speaker 3: That's yes, little mischievous because you know.
Speaker 4: Cause and mischief do the Laboo bo does?
Speaker 1: They do? They ever, like dress up as like one
Speaker 1: of the licenses that they're doing stuff.
Speaker 3: With or what they haven't officially sold that.
Speaker 2: However, they do make clothes for Laboo bo so you know,
Speaker 2: we're just waiting for a uh you know, well, they
Speaker 2: do like figures.
Speaker 3: So for example, there's this whole Labooboo.
Speaker 2: Figure one piece line, which is what we were also
Speaker 2: talking about in chat with the Giant Tony Tony Chopper. Uh.
Speaker 2: But they you know have ones where it's like oh
Speaker 2: but obviously like Frankie is Taykoko, but everybody else is
Speaker 2: just like La Boo boo in different costumes.
Speaker 3: It's wild.
Speaker 4: I'm just what I'm learning.
Speaker 1: I got to keep this. I got to keep this
Speaker 1: away from my kids. That's the most important thing that
Speaker 1: I'm taking away from this conversation. Let's explain what we
Speaker 1: do here most weekdays. I Jeff Grubb will help piece
Speaker 1: your gaming life back together. That includes breaking jan did
Speaker 1: do you have?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there you see everybody.
Speaker 1: I think, okay, I think that should pop up here
Speaker 1: on the thing here in a second, there you go, everybody.
Speaker 1: There's a little boo boo.
Speaker 3: Here's a boot it.
Speaker 1: All right? Uh yeah, I love that. Okay, you haven't
Speaker 1: started Blueprints. I thought you mentioned Blueprints.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I mentioned that my husband is playing.
Speaker 2: I had intended to start Blueprints this weekend, but then
Speaker 2: I lost my mind.
Speaker 3: But I'm back now.
Speaker 2: I'm like back to my sanity. Uh and Blueprints it's
Speaker 2: going to get started today. But I know that Gabe
Speaker 2: is loving it. He started it and he was basically saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is really interesting.
Speaker 3: This is fun. I'm not totally sure what the.
Speaker 2: Game play is yet, but the deeper he's gotten into it,
Speaker 2: the more he's been enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm Mike.
Speaker 1: Wait, my notes have fully gotten crazy now taking I
Speaker 1: was not taking many notes for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Forty hours. I had a few screenshots, and now I'm
Speaker 1: basically studying for an exam. That's basically what I'm doing now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fun stuff. All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: PS five prices have increased in some regions, but not
Speaker 1: the United States. This is from Georgiaang at game Spot.
Speaker 1: Let's just read what's happening first. Sony has a notes
Speaker 1: that it has raised prices for the digital and standard
Speaker 1: editions of the PS five console and select regions, but
Speaker 1: not in the United States. However, Sony has also decreased
Speaker 1: the price of the PS five disc drive attachment, which
Speaker 1: I bet it doesn't sell a ton of anyhow, The
Speaker 1: price changes are now in effect. In a statement, Sony
Speaker 1: said it was a tough decision to raise prices and
Speaker 1: it's not the first time. Sony first race prices back
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, with a backdrop of a challenging
Speaker 1: economic environment, including high inflation and fluctuating exchange rates. Sony
Speaker 1: Interactive Entertainment has made the tough decision to raise the
Speaker 1: recommended retail price of the PlayStation five console and select
Speaker 1: markets in Europe, Middle East Africa, as well as Australia
Speaker 1: and New Zealand. Here is how the price is breakdown.
Speaker 1: In Europe, the PS five Digital edition will go from
Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty euros up to five hundred euros.
Speaker 1: The standard version that comes with a disk drive, like
Speaker 1: the add on that's included that that's not going up
Speaker 1: in price at all in Europe, but the disk drive
Speaker 1: will go down from one hundred and twenty euros to
Speaker 1: eighty euros. In the UK, the digital edition is going
Speaker 1: up by forty pounds, from three hundred and ninety pounds
Speaker 1: to four hundred and thirty pounds. In Australia, the digital
Speaker 1: edition is going up seventy Australian dollars. The PS five
Speaker 1: standard with the disk drive is actually going up in Australia,
Speaker 1: but only by thirty dollars. And in New Zealand the
Speaker 1: digital edition is going up by sixty New Zealand dollars.
Speaker 1: And then the standard edition with the this dribe is
Speaker 1: increasing by fifty as well, so that means that will
Speaker 1: now be nine hundred and fifty New Zealand dollars. It is.
Speaker 1: You know, I think the initial reaction I had here was, Okay,
Speaker 1: what is what is going on? Why is it everywhere
Speaker 1: except for the United States? The United States is certainly
Speaker 1: one of the factors here in terms of the tariffs,
Speaker 1: and not the tariffs obviously aren't aren't being applied to
Speaker 1: these other countries. That's not what's happening, but it has.
Speaker 1: The tariffs have destabilized the global economy. And when they
Speaker 1: talk about you know, here's Daniel maud A hue Ga
Speaker 1: X on Twitter. I mean, I think he said it
Speaker 1: last night. As soon as I saw this, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he says, everyone is about to find out that the
Speaker 1: PS five price won't just increase because of tariffs. The
Speaker 1: knock on effect in terms of inflation, exchange rates, and
Speaker 1: macro trends are also impacting global prices. Even if one
Speaker 1: region is impacted, Sony may raise prices everywhere to offset losses.
Speaker 1: You know, things have become so unmoored from a stabilized
Speaker 1: global economy that these companies are like probably looking around,
Speaker 1: be like, we got to make as much money now
Speaker 1: as we can because we don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: In one two years, things could be a lot worse.
Speaker 1: And they do have a guaranteed win here pretty soon, Emma.
Speaker 1: Right with grand theft Auto six, that's I think that's
Speaker 1: really the foundational thing here is Grand theft out of
Speaker 1: six is going to come there. They know there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of people waiting on the sideline. They're going
Speaker 1: to hit those people where it hurts, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw your post about that yesterday and I yeah,
Speaker 2: that to me, that is a no brainer. Again, it's
Speaker 2: like we're looking at a destabilized global economy. Uh, as
Speaker 2: far as the US goes, and them not increasing prices here,
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's set in stone, you.
Speaker 4: Know, that's that's that's gonna happen, yep.
Speaker 3: For now.
Speaker 2: But they're they're basically increasing the prices in markets wherein
Speaker 2: they know what the sort of taxation, tariff, import fees.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they know better what's happening in these countries, No.
Speaker 3: Better, what's happening exactly right now?
Speaker 2: You know, we're just kind of I feel like this
Speaker 2: is happening kind of across the board in terms of
Speaker 2: commerce in the US. Is there's a lot of things
Speaker 2: that you know, we're already set at a certain price
Speaker 2: because they've been in the US market for a long
Speaker 2: time and they're just.
Speaker 3: Riding it out right now until.
Speaker 2: They can make a decision. You know, the reason that
Speaker 2: we're unable to order Nintendo Switch tos is because they're
Speaker 2: not in the market yet, so they don't know what
Speaker 2: to set the market price at. All of these other
Speaker 2: things were already set at a certain market price, and
Speaker 2: they just don't know what they need to set the
Speaker 2: updated market price at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're right, they're anchored to their previous price, so
Speaker 1: they have to work from there. Well, Nintendo did announce
Speaker 1: a price right before those tariffs happened, so they have
Speaker 1: a little bit of anchor. But they probably feel like
Speaker 1: they can make some moves before they actually get that
Speaker 1: they launched, which is why they have not announced what's
Speaker 1: happened with pre orders yet, although that could literally happen
Speaker 1: at any second. Ema, we will have to kind of
Speaker 1: keep our eyes open. But yeah, I think that you're right.
Speaker 1: The play the PlayStation five price increase will come to
Speaker 1: the United States here pretty soon. They are just waiting
Speaker 1: for the dust to settle, and it's honestly, it just
Speaker 1: gets kicked up and gets kicked in our eyes every
Speaker 1: time it feels like things might start to calm down.
Speaker 1: So you know, we are here on Monday recording the
Speaker 1: show over the weekend or late on Friday, I think
Speaker 1: there was the announcement from someone. I think it was
Speaker 1: the Customs and Border Patrol, the organization that was like, hey,
Speaker 1: there will be an exemption on electronics and computers from
Speaker 1: China and everywhere will be exempt from these tariffs. So
Speaker 1: for one thing, when that was when that was announced, Emma,
Speaker 1: that should just put to the lie just how much
Speaker 1: this is about bringing us manufacturing here. Because if you
Speaker 1: make something in China, it was gonna have zero percent tariffs,
Speaker 1: but if you make it here and import the processor
Speaker 1: that you need, it would be one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: five percent tariffs. So clearly we knew all along. Obviously
Speaker 1: we know that's never he doesn't care about anyone else.
Speaker 1: He doesn't care about us manufacturing, doesn't care about any
Speaker 1: of that. We don't have to pretend that he does.
Speaker 1: But now it's just so blatantly obvious that that was
Speaker 1: a lie, and we can just move on from that.
Speaker 1: But that that okay, computers, cell phones, you know, smartphones, tablets,
Speaker 1: all these things are going to be exempt.
Speaker 4: What about consoles?
Speaker 1: What about Well, we'll hang on, we'll wait and see,
Speaker 1: and then it's like we get to later in the
Speaker 1: weekend and okay, first we hear maybe those tariffs are
Speaker 1: temporary as well. That was Lutnik was on Fox News
Speaker 1: saying that apparently that pissed off a bunch of people
Speaker 1: in the White House. So they're still fighting amongst themselves
Speaker 1: about how they're going to do this. Trump is now
Speaker 1: also saying that they're going to be temporary. He's also
Speaker 1: saying that there's no such thing as any exemptions. Even
Speaker 1: though there's this exemption, does clarity exist. They've clarified the exemption.
Speaker 1: It does not include consoles. So the switch to PlayStation
Speaker 1: five are still going to be subject to all of
Speaker 1: these insane tariffs ten percent from Vietnam, Cambodia, and one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five percent or whatever it's at now
Speaker 1: for China. So the dust is just simply not it's
Speaker 1: not even begun to settle. It whirling around.
Speaker 2: That's exactly I was gonna say. It's swirling around. We're
Speaker 2: in a we're in a dust storm. Still uh, maybe
Speaker 2: it's not completely blinding us, but it's still it's still
Speaker 2: in one of those little whirlwinds.
Speaker 1: I want to look away. That's I know that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's you know, I think that the
Speaker 2: solution here is that, yeah, Trump just needs to become
Speaker 2: a hardcore gamer and then he'll exempt consoles.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's that's the solution.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really what it is. Like, let's let's
Speaker 3: be completely honest. Is he's like, oh, people need cell.
Speaker 2: Phones, so like, but he doesn't see consoles as like
Speaker 2: a thing that people need.
Speaker 1: And then I mean I think, you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: Apple donated a million dollars to his his you know,
Speaker 1: non election campaign or whatever like when he was brought
Speaker 1: into office, and a bunch of other companies like that did,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that they are using that leverage they
Speaker 1: got from giving money to get an audience with him
Speaker 1: to get him to agree to come over with these exemptions.
Speaker 1: Even they can't get him to commit to him long term,
Speaker 1: which is you know, apparently what was happening inside the
Speaker 1: White House on Friday. So we need to start stabilizing
Speaker 1: things again. Let's commit to long term exemptions. Let's commit
Speaker 1: to just making decisions on all these things and just
Speaker 1: go out there and tell the market what they want
Speaker 1: to hear in a lot of ways. And he cannot
Speaker 1: get to Monday with that. He cannot make it past
Speaker 1: the weekend without throwing a king, throwing you know, wrench
Speaker 1: into the works and messing things up again. So if
Speaker 1: I am one of these companies having to decide the
Speaker 1: price of what my product is going to be, especially
Speaker 1: if I've already been selling it at a certain price
Speaker 1: for several years now, I'm just waiting a little bit
Speaker 1: longer until I get at any information, not all the
Speaker 1: information that's going to be impossible in this environment, but
Speaker 1: any information. And again, they can't wait forever because GTA
Speaker 1: six is coming, and they do want to raise the
Speaker 1: price before that because they have to have wins now,
Speaker 1: because the future is more uncertain than it's ever been.
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw the you know, the University of
Speaker 1: Michigan does a consumer sentiment index. Em it's done it
Speaker 1: since the late seventies. I think it is at its
Speaker 1: lowest point ever. The confidence that the American consumer has
Speaker 1: in the American economy and in their own future is
Speaker 1: at the lowest point it has ever been. That includes
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, that includes COVID, that includes you know,
Speaker 1: gas shortages in the late seventies. Like it is really bad.
Speaker 1: So like that, like that that should be an indicator
Speaker 1: that people are feeling super queasy, and of course they
Speaker 1: should be.
Speaker 4: Look around.
Speaker 1: The news is terrible. But if I'm a company trying
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, well maybe we can like you know,
Speaker 1: have a good year this year and next year we'll
Speaker 1: have our some big games and they'll really hit dance
Speaker 1: like now you've got to make money now and hope
Speaker 1: you can then survive whatever happens next. It's rough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, it was like even on
Speaker 2: I saw people in chat talking about it earlier the
Speaker 2: well last week tonight. Last night, John Oliver did a
Speaker 2: whole you know, the main segment was on tariffs, and
Speaker 2: one of the big points that.
Speaker 3: They were bringing home about it was that.
Speaker 2: The confidence in the US in terms of being an
Speaker 2: economic partner in participating in the global economy, it's it's gone, like.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I mean because I mean, like if we
Speaker 1: just like put it in playing terms of what the
Speaker 1: original tariffs were going to do, they were going to
Speaker 1: result in the deaths of thousands of people, if not
Speaker 1: more than that, in places like Cambodia and via places
Speaker 1: that are just kind of getting like especially Cambodia that
Speaker 1: is really just sort of getting its manufacturing up and running.
Speaker 1: They've assembled their entire economy to work with the United
Speaker 1: States and make stuff for us that will buy. And
Speaker 1: this has been very good for both countries. It's obviously
Speaker 1: going to always be an imbalance and we always actually
Speaker 1: benefit more than these countries we buy stuff for. But
Speaker 1: that's sort of the evil we've accepted to be. Like, well, slowly,
Speaker 1: over time, their lives will improve. We've even seen this
Speaker 1: with China and all this stuff, and then to pull
Speaker 1: the rug out from underneath them would have just absolutely
Speaker 1: killed thousands of people. And that was his idea. That
Speaker 1: was the whole thing, is I'm gonna hurt these people
Speaker 1: because the number that says USA on this side is
Speaker 1: lower than this country over here, like Cambodi's got a
Speaker 1: higher numbers. That drives me insane. It's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: people don't deserve to die because you don't understand what
Speaker 1: you're looking at, So how can anyone trust us? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you just can't. So it is going to be
Speaker 1: a messy situation that will not just be unraveled when
Speaker 1: he changes his mind or gets distracted by something else.
Speaker 1: It has permanently wrought damage on the trust of this country.
Speaker 1: So back to PS five price increase. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: It'll probably go to the United States here pretty soon.
Speaker 1: I think the switch to probably still will see something
Speaker 1: or very well could Xbox should go up in price.
Speaker 1: But everything's going to go up in price now. Inflation's
Speaker 1: going to come roaring back.
Speaker 3: It's going to come roaring back, as you say though,
Speaker 3: for the world.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, everyone's going to pay the price of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone is going to pay the price.
Speaker 1: Yep. You know, if things were starting to calm down
Speaker 1: with inflation, they were starting to calm down with exchange
Speaker 1: rates a little bit, they were, they were bounced around
Speaker 1: for other reasons. But now all this stuff has completely
Speaker 1: thrown that stuff into chaos again. And so if you're
Speaker 1: Sony looking around like, okay, we have to do this
Speaker 1: now because we can get away with it now, and
Speaker 1: of course that's always how it goes.
Speaker 4: These companies do what they can get away with.
Speaker 1: Worth pointing out. I guess for now, the PS five
Speaker 1: Digital Edition in most of these countries now is actually
Speaker 1: more expensive or the same price as the switch to.
Speaker 1: The switch to got announced and was looking kind of
Speaker 1: rough in comparison because it was more expensive than a
Speaker 1: PS five Digital edition. Well now the PS five Digital
Speaker 1: Edition is is more expensive, and then like even with
Speaker 1: the Mario Kart World Bundle, that's the same price as
Speaker 1: the digital edition now, so it's like, Okay, Nintendo maybe
Speaker 1: benefits a little bit, but I think people already feel
Speaker 1: like that's expensive and they're having a hard time just
Speaker 1: to find that and PS five being you know, getting
Speaker 1: a price increase won't necessarily make them feel better, all right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, we talked about this. Unlike smartphones, Nintendo switch
Speaker 1: to and other video game consoles won't be exempt from
Speaker 1: Trump tariffs. This is from Jordan Miller at VGC. US
Speaker 1: President Donald Trump has announced that smartphones, computers, and other
Speaker 1: devices will be exempt from his tariffs, but video game
Speaker 1: consoles liked a nintend switch to, will not, and a
Speaker 1: notice published over the weekend US Customs and Border Patrols
Speaker 1: said that specific goods would be exempt from Trump's ten
Speaker 1: percent global tariffs on most countries and his Chinese import
Speaker 1: tax which is set to set to send tech prices
Speaker 1: skyrocketing due to the large number of components manufactured in
Speaker 1: China and the assembly of products themselves. It was estimated
Speaker 1: that new smartphones laptops would increase in price by hundreds
Speaker 1: of dollars, but the new exemptions have lessened the potential
Speaker 1: impact of these products. I you know, once again, you know,
Speaker 1: we're kind of just gonna have to wait and see
Speaker 1: what happens with all this. But I think this is
Speaker 1: just a perfect example of how unclear messaging makes everything
Speaker 1: so much worse. I mean, people were messaging me all
Speaker 1: weekend or tagging me on social media saying, hey, look
Speaker 1: is this good news? Are the consoles going to be exempt?
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, We'll just where it's gonna
Speaker 1: wait and we're gonna find out more. And I was
Speaker 1: expecting the worst, and here we are. What do you
Speaker 1: think Nintendo does next? Do you think that they can
Speaker 1: just come out and start selling it at four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars in five hundred with Mario Kartworld, keep
Speaker 1: it at a similar price, try to get all the
Speaker 1: systems from Vietnam that they can, and reintroduce pre orders
Speaker 1: here this week or are we still waiting for a while.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that that is likely what they
Speaker 2: will attempt.
Speaker 1: To do.
Speaker 2: Because you know, obviously again it's like we have all
Speaker 2: the stories about the stock that's coming from Vietnam, where
Speaker 2: there's going to be a lesser teris it. I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately Nintendo wants to be able to move
Speaker 2: product in the US. It is a giant market, and
Speaker 2: so if they can basically put aside a certain amount
Speaker 2: of stock of the console that they can then pre
Speaker 2: order to the US, so they know that they can
Speaker 2: solid at that price point and they're not going to
Speaker 2: take a loss on it because it was you know,
Speaker 2: manufactured within this exemption period. Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 2: that that is likely what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: I just think that in.
Speaker 2: Terms of those pre orders coming up, uh, it's going
Speaker 2: to be a limited stock, so it's going to be
Speaker 2: extremely difficult to get one of those consoles and then
Speaker 2: you know, then then you know, reassess for release.
Speaker 1: Yep. I think I think that they'll probably right have
Speaker 1: to just make a move here pretty soon, try to
Speaker 1: try to like I don't know, hope against hope that Yeah,
Speaker 1: that they see a stabilization here and that things kind
Speaker 1: of just revert back to what they were because you said, I, well,
Speaker 1: we tried a bunch of stuff, and now you know,
Speaker 1: I got all the deals I wanted, so we're going
Speaker 1: back and I won. Hey, everybody, aren't you sick of
Speaker 1: winning already? I think he could do that move, and
Speaker 1: I think they're hoping for that, but they just don't know.
Speaker 1: So maybe they just pull the trigger on pre orders
Speaker 1: as is right now, and then if you know, tariffs
Speaker 1: on Vietnam go back up like they're set to do
Speaker 1: after that ninety day pause, they will then have to
Speaker 1: raise prices at that point. But in the meantime, I
Speaker 1: think they're like, let's just go with it, because we do.
Speaker 1: They do have quite a few switch tos in America
Speaker 1: right now. They are shipping a lot from Vietnam at
Speaker 1: a ten percent tariff, so they'll lose money on those,
Speaker 1: but I think they're ready to do that, and then
Speaker 1: you know, from from there, I think they will just
Speaker 1: have to be more ready and more on their toes
Speaker 1: and ready to respond depending on what happens next. And
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's rough stuff, all right. Let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about the
Speaker 1: other news, including Marathon getting its gameplay reveal and how
Speaker 1: everyone's feeling about that. We'll talk about that right after this.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back into it. Me and Emma
Speaker 1: are still talking about the news, including Marathon gameplay revealed.
Speaker 1: Marathon is a new extraction shooter from Bungie, launching on
Speaker 1: September twenty third, and alpha signups are open now. Bunchie
Speaker 1: showed off gameplay over the weekend on Saturday, and it
Speaker 1: looks promising. The game putrid a new unique art style
Speaker 1: and fast paced skill based combat, but it's high difficulty
Speaker 1: and gear loss upon death may deter casual players. The
Speaker 1: game will be a premium product with seasonal content updates
Speaker 1: including new weapons, mods, runners, and cosmetics.
Speaker 4: Concerns remain about the game's price.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that more in a second, but first
Speaker 1: potential for mainstream success is a question mark as well
Speaker 1: because of Bunchie's history with live service games and PvP balancing.
Speaker 1: And this game is very much about you know. It's
Speaker 1: pvpve it's an extraction shooter. You go into the world
Speaker 1: with a team of three. It's you know, and I
Speaker 1: think it's six three player teams. You're all going after
Speaker 1: loot and trying to get as much as you can,
Speaker 1: and the players that could survive and actually extract get
Speaker 1: to keep to their stuff, cash that in or do
Speaker 1: whatever they're going to do with it, and then use
Speaker 1: those resources to go into the next you know, it's
Speaker 1: a compound interest game. We have a lot of compound
Speaker 1: compound interest games where it's like, oh, I've had some success,
Speaker 1: and now I can use that success to have even
Speaker 1: more success in the next round. I am interested in this,
Speaker 1: but I also mostly interested because I think Bungie still
Speaker 1: makes the best feeling shooters, So I want to play
Speaker 1: their new shooter and we'll see if extraction can work
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 4: I really have not you know, this is a genre
Speaker 4: I've not really touched much.
Speaker 1: And it's because it doesn't sound appealing to me, Emma.
Speaker 1: But I bet if I get in there with a
Speaker 1: crew of people, and you know, I'm playing it with
Speaker 1: some friends every Friday night or something like that, I
Speaker 1: bet I would be into it.
Speaker 4: These games are very popular, But how are you feeling
Speaker 4: about it?
Speaker 1: What do you think the chances for success for marathon
Speaker 1: are standing at right now?
Speaker 2: So looking at it again, it is not my kind
Speaker 2: of game. It's not my genre. Good luck to them.
Speaker 3: It looks cool. I like the art style, so at
Speaker 3: least that.
Speaker 2: Is putting you in a place where it just doesn't
Speaker 2: look like a you know, black and brown and tan,
Speaker 2: low color grading call of duty, so that at least
Speaker 2: gives it, in my mind, a chance to attract attention
Speaker 2: and have people decide, oh, okay, we're gonna try this
Speaker 2: game out.
Speaker 3: However, I do think that it is a.
Speaker 2: It's a mistake in this day and age to have
Speaker 2: a high level of difficulty.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying like, oh, we should make games
Speaker 3: easy so everybody can play. That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What I mean is that there needs to be adaptability
Speaker 2: so that you can attract more casual players, because I
Speaker 2: feel like that is something that Bungee has even struggled
Speaker 2: with in the past in terms of having these big launches,
Speaker 2: because their games look cool and they feel good to play,
Speaker 2: so people show up, but then they end up in
Speaker 2: a position wherein oh the now, only a hardcore collection
Speaker 2: of people pick around for it. And again I'm not like,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say you need to make this
Speaker 2: game for everyone. I just think that there needs to
Speaker 2: be some level of being able to retain players who
Speaker 2: are interested and get into it, but you don't want
Speaker 2: them to get to a level where it's more frustration
Speaker 2: than fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I am trying to, like look at the Steam concurrent
Speaker 1: players right now, because I agree with everything you're saying
Speaker 1: that there are so many barriers to me seeing the
Speaker 1: enjoyment in an extraction shooter. Now, I am someone who
Speaker 1: has often enjoyed pushing through barriers or having a game
Speaker 1: that pushes against me and forces me to play in
Speaker 1: new ways.
Speaker 4: So I don't think that's inherently a problem.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think when we throw out a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff like the Eldering night Rain is a
Speaker 1: multiplayer focused game, and even that other one that they're doing,
Speaker 1: the dust Bloods, that's multiplayer focused, and people are like, well,
Speaker 1: that's a mistake, and it's like, well, you know, multiplayer
Speaker 1: games are the most played games. They just are. They
Speaker 1: just are by far the most played games. Look. I
Speaker 1: mean you can look at Steam. Multiplayer games always have
Speaker 1: more players than a traditional game, and that's not just
Speaker 1: like you know, oh, concurrence, but definitely concurrence also they
Speaker 1: sell better. And now that has gone up and down
Speaker 1: and fluctuated over the years, but traditionally it's been very
Speaker 1: true that multiplayer games tend to sell better. So there's
Speaker 1: an audience out there for multiplayer games, and it's maybe
Speaker 1: not the audience that always tunes into this show. It's
Speaker 1: definitely not the kind of thing. I'm not catering to
Speaker 1: that audience. There are people who do, so it's not
Speaker 1: the first thing I think of, But I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: then what about extraction shooters specifically? And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't is Escape from Tarkoff even on Steam.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it is. I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: So that's not going to show up on the most
Speaker 1: play games, but that's sort of the one that sort
Speaker 1: of dominates that genre. Still. There's also you know, the
Speaker 1: Hunt Showdown, you know that is on Steam, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't have like one hundred thousand concurrens or something like that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find to hear Hunt Showdown eighteen ninety six,
Speaker 1: you know, it tops out at about twenty five thousand
Speaker 1: concurrent players, which is you know, far away from the
Speaker 1: top fifty, let alone the top the top ten. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, okay, a battlefield game coming out
Speaker 1: and being not having a single player campaign, Okay, that
Speaker 1: makes sense because you don't Those games have get to
Speaker 1: get hundreds of thousands of concurrent players sometimes and they
Speaker 1: can kind of push through any of these things where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh that's niche or whatever, it's not something
Speaker 1: I want to play. It's like, well, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people who do want to play it. I
Speaker 1: don't think extraction has had that moment yet where where
Speaker 1: it's like it's had It's Fortnite or it's Call of
Speaker 1: Duty or it's Halo to sort of bring it to everybody. Now,
Speaker 1: Marathon could be that, And if it is, I do
Speaker 1: think there's obviously something to this style of play. Developers
Speaker 1: seem to like it a lot. I think that's why
Speaker 1: they keep making Extraction modes. But in this moment, it's
Speaker 1: just so much easier to see all the ways this
Speaker 1: won't work than how it will. But of course I think, Emma,
Speaker 1: if it is fun to shoot things in Marathon because
Speaker 1: it's a bungee game, I think that's going to go
Speaker 1: a very long way to getting it over the top, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: I guess also that it's a lot of discussing happening
Speaker 2: in chat right now. Is the reality that this is
Speaker 2: not a free to play and obviously we saw how
Speaker 2: well that went with Concord.
Speaker 3: Not the same.
Speaker 2: Kind of game at its core, per se, except that
Speaker 2: they're both shooting mcshoot shoots.
Speaker 3: So I guess I.
Speaker 2: Do wonder if it is going to attract enough attention
Speaker 2: while asking people to pay money to play it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean that's the other conversation here. Marathon
Speaker 1: won't be full price. A bunch of says it will
Speaker 1: be a quote premium title, so it's not going to
Speaker 1: be free to play. This is from Evan Campbell at GameSpot.
Speaker 1: Even after a reveal showcase over the weekend, there was
Speaker 1: confusion about one crucial aspect regarding Marathon, the game's price point.
Speaker 1: Developer Bungie has clarified that the Extraction Shooter won't be
Speaker 1: a quote full price title. However, the entry the entry
Speaker 1: cost still hasn't been detailed, with that info apparently arriving
Speaker 1: in the summer. Originally, GameSpot's Marathon preview noted that the
Speaker 1: game would be full price. Since Bungie has referred to
Speaker 1: the shooter as a premium title on Twitter, Warrior sixty
Speaker 1: four shared those details before the official Marathon account stepped
Speaker 1: in to spell out the current pricing situation for Marathon. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's described as a premium experience, but it won't carry
Speaker 1: a premium price tag. Think seventy dollars what the entry
Speaker 1: costs will ultimately be for the game. We'll have to
Speaker 1: wait for a few months though, So it's coming out
Speaker 1: in September. I think, you know, at one point it
Speaker 1: did it leaked or maybe it was speculator, or maybe
Speaker 1: it showed up on a store a forty dollars price tag,
Speaker 1: and I just think everyone can't help but go like Concord, right.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's definitely like that is.
Speaker 1: The bad taste that's still in Sony's mouth for sure.
Speaker 1: The owners of Bungee got in a lot of people's mouths.
Speaker 1: And I think if we look around at the market,
Speaker 1: if you are one of these people making one of
Speaker 1: these games, Emma, like even a battlefield, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: be like, maybe we got to find a way to
Speaker 1: get this free to play. I guess so hard to
Speaker 1: compete with Fortnite so hard to compete with so many
Speaker 1: these other games that are you're free or so old
Speaker 1: that everyone just already has them in their stands.
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like, how do you make the Fortnite model work
Speaker 3: in other games?
Speaker 2: Because I have a bunch of friends who are deeply
Speaker 2: into Fortnite, they're also deeply into purchasing Fortnite skins. Yes,
Speaker 2: so it's finding ways to make those in game transactions
Speaker 2: feel worth.
Speaker 3: It is kind of the key to.
Speaker 2: Finding the way to make your premium game free to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, you know, and I don't have experience
Speaker 1: with extraction. Christian I know in chat who I know
Speaker 1: loves Extraction Shooter says he's never played a free to
Speaker 1: play extraction shooter that has worked. I can imagine that,
Speaker 1: like balancing the in game economy, you know, separate from
Speaker 1: your real world spending is crucial to making that feel fun.
Speaker 1: That's the stuff that does appeal to me, like risk reward,
Speaker 1: being in the moment being like I have a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. Should I just be prioritizing surviving now? Or
Speaker 1: I see a big shiny thing over there, I want
Speaker 1: to go get that as soon as you tell me, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can go get that, but someone on the other
Speaker 1: side of that hill it's probably waiting for you, and
Speaker 1: they probably spend one hundred dollars to get stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously it doesn't have to be paid to win, but
Speaker 1: if if they like look cooler to me. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the things I'm getting out of out of
Speaker 1: like doing all this work and trying to extract. That
Speaker 1: can also poison the well of feeling good about the
Speaker 1: extraction loops.
Speaker 4: So it's got to be difficult to make this make sense.
Speaker 1: Gotcha game, gotcha game, Just wi fus, that's always the answer.
Speaker 1: We'll see. I think it looks cool and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try it. I want an extraction shooter. I want to
Speaker 1: like have an experience with one. I think I'll just
Speaker 1: save it for this one. This will be the one
Speaker 1: I actually go in with. All right, let's update on
Speaker 1: Oblivion and the shadow drop. Last week, I think it
Speaker 1: was last week on this show, am I.
Speaker 3: We were talking about it.
Speaker 1: We were talking about it, like, yeah, yeah, it should
Speaker 1: shadow drop at any moment, you know. I'll give people
Speaker 1: a week now, the week of April twenty first, So basically,
Speaker 1: the last week of this month, next week, essentially, so
Speaker 1: that it should shadow drop then, which I think, you know,
Speaker 1: other people have said, but I've gotten separate confirmation that
Speaker 1: that's going to be the case. So shadow drop last
Speaker 1: week of the month. I'm man, I am. I'm getting
Speaker 1: excited for this one, although I imagine I'll still be
Speaker 1: playing Blueprints by then. I'm like, I'm going to spend
Speaker 1: the rest of this month, the rest of this month
Speaker 1: playing Blueprints, and then hopefully I can wrap it up
Speaker 1: and be ready for Oblivion. We'll see.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm excited about this.
Speaker 1: We still, I mean, they have still not like announced
Speaker 1: any events, right for Microsoft. They announced something for for June,
Speaker 1: for the Summer Game Fest.
Speaker 4: Yes, but I don't know, I don't know where this
Speaker 4: show is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe too that basically like what what Microsoft
Speaker 2: Xbox was saying for Summer Game Fest was that they
Speaker 2: were only doing the press conference. And yeah, but still,
Speaker 2: but that that'll be after Okabe drops.
Speaker 1: Yes, that'll be long after Oblivion drops.
Speaker 4: That's right, So yeah, we'll see. This will have to
Speaker 4: be something else.
Speaker 1: I guess people have heard maybe there's an Xbox event
Speaker 1: happening on the twenty third I just haven't seen that anywhere,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. But yeah, hey, next week, let's
Speaker 1: get let's get down. I'm ready to go back to oblivion. Uh.
Speaker 1: Mafia the Old Country release date revealed on Steam. This
Speaker 1: is from Insider Gaming. The release date for Mafia the
Speaker 1: Old Old Country has seemingly been revealed in a blog
Speaker 1: post published on Steam a short while ago. It looks
Speaker 1: as though the game will be released on August eighth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Previously, the game only had a window
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five, so this narrows it down. Mafia
Speaker 1: the Old Country was first teased in August at Gamescom's
Speaker 1: Opening Night Live ceremony. They fuller trailer dropping in December
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four at the Game Awards. Take two could
Speaker 1: have a stacked released release slate lineup now with Mafia
Speaker 1: the Old Country, Orderlance four, which I think is actually
Speaker 1: coming up the same day as Marathon, which is a
Speaker 1: little weird, and GTA six all dropping within mere months
Speaker 1: of each other. Yeah, you ever spend any time with
Speaker 1: the Mafia games? I tried the first couple and just
Speaker 1: never could get into them.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I was like, is this like The Godfather?
Speaker 1: The game Yeah, it is like Godfather the game, which
Speaker 1: is action not that bad. You know, it's an open
Speaker 1: world crime game. They try to add a little different
Speaker 1: the flavor on top to be a GTA without being GTA,
Speaker 1: And you know, I think they're all right, but they've
Speaker 1: never been great, I think, and I've always wanted them
Speaker 1: to be like kind of just get up that next level.
Speaker 4: I hope this one does it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is one that they I think they
Speaker 1: kind of made in response to In this they being
Speaker 1: Hangar thirteen the studio in response to their last game
Speaker 1: getting canceled several years ago during the pandemic. They were
Speaker 1: working on like a shooter with like magical powers and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I think that we're gonna scrap
Speaker 1: that go back to Mafia, and here we are. It
Speaker 1: feels like kind of a quick turnaround. But I have
Speaker 1: no idea what development. Maybe they were working on this
Speaker 1: in conjunction with that and it had been in the
Speaker 1: works for years and now they're ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or they just turned that into this and in
Speaker 2: this Mafia you will be able to do wizard spells.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm down there.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Warlock Mafia. Yeah, let's actually just it would be a
Speaker 1: shame if I were to finstrate you magically through this window. Yes, yep,
Speaker 1: I would. I would definitely be excited about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Take two's lineup does look pretty good. They are if
Speaker 1: they have Mafia, Borderlands four. Yes, Borderlands four and GTA
Speaker 1: six really all dropping within months, although I continue to
Speaker 1: think it's like, well, you know, they have those other
Speaker 1: two games, so if they feel like they have to
Speaker 1: delay GTA six, they won't hesitate. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like they're gonna have all this and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big year for them, So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Are you a Borderlands person as well at all? Have
Speaker 1: you ever played a Borderlands because I've only played the
Speaker 1: first one and I'm like kind of in the mood
Speaker 1: for this one.
Speaker 2: Played Tails from the Borderlands, Oh like telltale thing.
Speaker 1: It's honestly probably the best one. So yeah, right totally
Speaker 1: and final check GT six. I mean, I know we
Speaker 1: were just talking about for the PlayStation price increased thing,
Speaker 1: but I'm leaning more toward it coming out.
Speaker 2: This year me too, now I think Halladay no, yeah.
Speaker 1: Drop November December.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they would give themselves that amount of runway
Speaker 2: I think what they would love is to drop it
Speaker 2: in the summer, but they're going to give themselves as
Speaker 2: much leeway as they can whilst still dropping at a
Speaker 2: big season. So I think it's going to be the
Speaker 2: hottest gift of.
Speaker 3: The twenty twenty five holiday season.
Speaker 1: Yeap. Yeah. And it's like, you know, we're not so
Speaker 1: close that they have to say something soon, but some
Speaker 1: the summer announcement season will be here soon, and I
Speaker 1: hope that they up at that point they just straight
Speaker 1: up say a date, but at least like a month,
Speaker 1: just say a month, that'd be nice.
Speaker 2: I just got so excited thinking that maybe there would
Speaker 2: be something around GT sex at Summer Game FESTI this year.
Speaker 4: I got, Yeah, it's not impossible.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would be at Kiwi's thing, but
Speaker 1: I think they would. Maybe they could run something in
Speaker 1: conjunction off to the side at a hotel room or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's definitely something that they might do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could just come bring GT six to.
Speaker 2: Us, Yeah, play it.
Speaker 1: It's rock stars, So they probably be like, no, you
Speaker 1: come to us, but yeah, that's that's true. All right,
Speaker 1: let's see here, and then a new prototype game is
Speaker 1: in the works. A playtester claims, we'll see. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I believe this one, but let's read the rumor.
Speaker 1: This is from Insider Gaming as well. A new prototype
Speaker 1: game is reportedly in development. And that's not like prototype
Speaker 1: is in an unfinished idea. Prototype is in that franchise
Speaker 1: that was like the Monster Superhero open world action game from.
Speaker 3: The X sixty.
Speaker 1: According to a user on Reddit by the name of
Speaker 1: big B, they were given details about a new game
Speaker 1: in the series as part of a recent focus group session.
Speaker 1: The user claims that the game will see Alex Mercer
Speaker 1: return as its protagonists. We all who can forget Alex Mercer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just all the kids clamoring for the return of Alex Mercer.
Speaker 1: Gameplay will reportedly feature shape shifting and transforming into other
Speaker 1: people in order to infiltrate areas. Lastly, it will be
Speaker 1: based in New York City. Insider Gaming reached out to
Speaker 1: big B regarding these claims and was told the following
Speaker 1: It was a UGUB survey which asked me to sign
Speaker 1: an NDA and confirm that I will not disclose the contents,
Speaker 1: which is exactly what they're doing here. It then confirmed
Speaker 1: a series of features that it could a series of
Speaker 1: features that upcoming games will include, and how popular this
Speaker 1: was with me percentage wise. It was not a play test,
Speaker 1: but did specify that these features were already planned as
Speaker 1: part of upcoming games. Okay, I mean yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any reason to assume that, or to
Speaker 1: like just take the survey at its word that say, hey,
Speaker 1: imagine a prototype game that's using these features, that's really
Speaker 1: coming and it's going to have these features. I mean,
Speaker 1: they could just be prototype, could be a stand in,
Speaker 1: they could be same prototype when they actually mean something
Speaker 1: else totally.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's just a survey, it's like Sony
Speaker 2: surveying there on and saying.
Speaker 3: What do you like about the switch too?
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, yes, Sony's not gonna make the
Speaker 2: switch too, but they're gonna make their own handheld.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It could be that they're, oh making something in the
Speaker 2: vein of a proto type but it's not necessarily another
Speaker 2: proto type game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it looks like it was relatively well reviewed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're all right, they're all right, they're okay games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just it doesn't make it like a huge
Speaker 1: amount of sense to me, because it's like these feel
Speaker 1: like the kinds of games that don't get made anymore.
Speaker 1: They are a certain level of of like you know,
Speaker 1: B tier in terms of attention getting that that feels
Speaker 1: like the kinds of things that publishers are afraid to
Speaker 1: make these days. And so it's like, really, Prototype is
Speaker 1: the one that's coming back, Huh, There's like there feels
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of games that would come back
Speaker 1: before that that would make a lot more sense. And
Speaker 1: like who's even making this? I think the studio that
Speaker 1: was responsible for the Prototype games isn't a going concern anymore.
Speaker 1: So does someone just really like who even owns the property?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it just like love it so much,
Speaker 1: like we got to get more of this. This is
Speaker 1: the key. I just don't see how this ends up
Speaker 1: really happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking, I'm just I'm trying to look into basically,
Speaker 2: like how well these games did, and Prototype two quickly
Speaker 2: comes up with information that like, even though it did
Speaker 2: perform well in its release months, it was too large
Speaker 2: of an investment for them to have made any significant
Speaker 2: returns on it. Apparently, So yeah, I'm with you, Like
Speaker 2: I guarantee you that there are people who are prototype.
Speaker 3: Freaks out there.
Speaker 2: There's there's people who love every single game, but this
Speaker 2: is not a game that I been here as like,
Speaker 2: oh you know this is kind of like a cult classic.
Speaker 4: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It was like so when the chat said a little
Speaker 1: bit ago, it was that game you beat after renting
Speaker 1: for Blockbuster and you return it and you're like that
Speaker 1: was fun and you don't really ever think about it
Speaker 1: all that much again, like it's maybe it's a maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit better than that. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: it's not completely forgettable, but it was pretty generic and
Speaker 1: and yeah, so it just it just feels extremely weird.
Speaker 1: But apparently it's it's Activision, so Microsoft owns it, right,
Speaker 1: and they owned a lot of IP so I think
Speaker 1: the same thing still stands of Okay, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a team together because that original team isn't there. They're
Speaker 1: not like waiting around begging to do more, to do
Speaker 1: more prototype, so they're like you have to be like,
Speaker 1: we have this IP, we got to go find a
Speaker 1: team to make a game based on this IP. What
Speaker 1: what I could see happen is like a prototype collection
Speaker 1: or HD re release from a little like an external
Speaker 1: team that comes in and say, hey, we can, like,
Speaker 1: you know, upres some of your games and re release them.
Speaker 1: But I bet that those games are already backward compatible
Speaker 1: and running just fine. So I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: even that much demand for.
Speaker 4: That even so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm not buying this one. I think
Speaker 1: that's where I'm putting my money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this seems unlikely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's this was the spiritual successor to Hawk
Speaker 1: Ultimate Destruction. Let's get a new one of those first.
Speaker 1: That would be great. That's what I really want.
Speaker 2: That's a licensed character with a built in audience, So
Speaker 2: that seems way more likely.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And if they just call it Haulk Ultimate Destruction two,
Speaker 1: like a sequel to that Xbox and GameCube game, I
Speaker 1: would be like, that's got a built in audience too,
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Speaker 1: look set to fix fix Andy, I Got a Problem
Speaker 1: with You, one of the two games most divisive features
Speaker 1: via its mobile app connectivity. As part of its big
Speaker 1: Switch to reveal earlier this month, Nintendo announced that Tears
Speaker 1: of the Kingdom and Breadth of the Wild will both
Speaker 1: get switched to additions, as well as a new app
Speaker 1: called zelden Notes, which.
Speaker 3: Will be part of nin app That's Right.
Speaker 1: The app will allow players to navigate and leave notes
Speaker 1: on an interactive game map, share creations and tiers of
Speaker 1: the Kingdom, unlock achievements, and more. The zelden Notes app
Speaker 1: also allows switch to players to roll a random daily bonus,
Speaker 1: which can be stored and used in game. This includes
Speaker 1: generic items like meals and health boots boosts, but as
Speaker 1: spotted by Zeltic, one of the rewards is an equipment repair.
Speaker 1: This will repair any items that have decayed or been
Speaker 1: used to the point where they're about to break, so
Speaker 1: you can actually repair them. And to this, I say,
Speaker 1: Nintendo or cowards, and they should have never done this.
Speaker 1: Stick to your guns. I just I'm disappointed in them.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but it's kind of a funny way to
Speaker 1: bring repairing into the into Zelda. Though in the app.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and very Nintendo to be like you need to
Speaker 2: also integrate with our other online thing even though we
Speaker 2: just learned what the internet is thirty days ago. Uh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: but my question is how does the repair happen?
Speaker 3: Like, how do how do repair? Do you have to?
Speaker 2: Is this where I spend my Nintendo Gold coins for
Speaker 2: buying games.
Speaker 1: In the shop, like you know, uh huh, it's it
Speaker 1: seems like, yeah, you just roll, like you'll open those
Speaker 1: Zelda Notes app get a random thing each day, and
Speaker 1: then you just I think probably there's probably you know
Speaker 1: how when.
Speaker 4: You bring in a mebo into Zelda where it's like one.
Speaker 1: Of the powers I wonder for, it'll be like that,
Speaker 1: like now one of the powers will be like the
Speaker 1: zelden notes interaction. So we're ready for you do the
Speaker 1: Zelda notes thing. Maybe you've an NFC the phone to
Speaker 1: your switch to I don't know, I'm kind of guessing
Speaker 1: at this point. Obviously it'll be linked to your phone's
Speaker 1: in character, but you know, they'll have some solution. I
Speaker 1: think it's probably gonna be it's probably gonna feel cheap
Speaker 1: and janky because it's uh and those are always kind
Speaker 1: of terrible for this, you know, smart glass generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that again, your your weapons.
Speaker 3: It would be one thing if.
Speaker 2: One of the points of the game was weapon scarcity,
Speaker 2: but that's simply not a thing.
Speaker 1: No, oh no, it's just like it's just like Halo.
Speaker 1: You run out of bullets in your gun, you drop
Speaker 1: your gun, you pick up another gun.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, and it's meant to kind of keep
Speaker 1: you engaged with the combat and the environment, and it's good.
Speaker 1: Weapon degradation is actually good. Yeah, but again everyone feels
Speaker 1: that way. This is not going to solve their issues
Speaker 1: with that. So it's no, it's not, No.
Speaker 3: This is annoying.
Speaker 2: If they really cared about weapon degradation and not creating
Speaker 2: some little integration for their new Zelda Notes app, they
Speaker 2: would just make it an option in the game to
Speaker 2: switch weapon degradation off.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, totally. It's it's definitely part of the balance
Speaker 1: and part of the the loop. And so yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna keep it here and it'll I don't
Speaker 1: know if it'll be in the next one. I bet
Speaker 1: they'll rethink a lot of things and at that point
Speaker 1: maybe they'll have a different kind of loop, but it
Speaker 1: really worked in these two games. All right. There was
Speaker 1: one other thing, Uh, Matt Piscatella, right before we started,
Speaker 1: just kind of shared some tidbits, you know, the empty MPD.
Speaker 1: The Circana Report as it's called now, will come out
Speaker 1: next week. But in the meantime, he's got a little
Speaker 1: bit of an update on Assassin's Creed Shadows, which he
Speaker 1: says has been the best selling video game in the
Speaker 1: United States for each of its first three weeks in
Speaker 1: the market, according to Sircana's retail tracking service, and that's
Speaker 1: based on dollar sales, so it's doing pretty good. That's, uh,
Speaker 1: probably what they wanted to hear.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they they've got so many messes and
Speaker 1: they're all responsible.
Speaker 4: They're responsible for.
Speaker 1: All of them. They made it. They made a pretty
Speaker 1: good game, Assassin's Creed Shadows. Yeah, pretty solid. So I
Speaker 1: think it's the the game that a lot of Assassin's
Speaker 1: Creed fans were actually asking for as well, So I
Speaker 1: think that they'll be happy with us. I agree. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's wrap things up. We got a pull question
Speaker 1: to get to. Uh, I have it here, let me
Speaker 1: get it. Oh, that's the game a wrap. Sorry everybody,
Speaker 1: let me go Giant bomb dot com slash at Giant
Speaker 1: Bomb and then you guys can go or no, that's
Speaker 1: YouTube dot com. I can't see the pull on the discord, Jans,
Speaker 1: so let me just get it here Giant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because everything Oh yeah, Jan said everything on his
Speaker 2: computer's frozen except obs oh fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, well at least that's still working. I got it here.
Speaker 1: Do you expect a switch to price increase? Now? I
Speaker 1: think we asked that at the end of last week.
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Forty nine percent said yes, twenty six
Speaker 1: percent said yes but a smaller one, and twenty five
Speaker 1: percent said no. I feel like we might have already
Speaker 1: answered that one as well, so maybe the new one
Speaker 1: didn't get posted. Well, have a new poll question, and
Speaker 1: that's going to be are you excited about Bungie's Marathon?
Speaker 1: Yes or no? We'll get that answered on Game Breaking
Speaker 1: News on Wednesday while we get ready for that. M fIF,
Speaker 1: why don't you tell people where they can find you
Speaker 1: on the internet, what you have going on and all
Speaker 1: that good stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, you can certainly find me at my
Speaker 2: local PopMart, robostore, at the one that is an actual
Speaker 2: brick and mortar store at a mall that's not as
Speaker 2: close but not so far from me.
Speaker 3: Maybe you could even find me at the Century City.
Speaker 2: Roboshop if I get really ambitious and want to make the.
Speaker 3: Drive over there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm at MFI Fun Blue Sky and
Speaker 2: on Instagram and the Fife on TikTok where I posted
Speaker 2: some unboxing videos and just explain, you know, a big
Speaker 2: explanation about the recent deterioration of my mental faculties.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it comes for us, all all right, let's
Speaker 1: see here, Like I said, the new pool question that'll
Speaker 1: go up on YouTube dot com slash at Giant Bomb.
Speaker 1: Just go to the community to tab you can vote there.
Speaker 1: We'll get the results. Talk about on Game Breaking News
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Today, the schedules getting kind of flipped around
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think Jam might be having something.
Speaker 1: We'll see if his computer is going to break or not.
Speaker 1: And then let's see tomorrow we'll have the Bomb Cast.
Speaker 1: We will have a return of Blight Club on Wednesday, Voicemail,
Speaker 1: Donald Truck will be on Thursday. We'll be running a
Speaker 1: upf on Friday. Looking forward to all of that and
Speaker 1: more this week. In the time Emma Fi, thank you
Speaker 1: for hanging out with me and talking about video games.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: You're very welcome.
Speaker 1: Thank you all for watching, Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 1: You're the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have
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