WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:04.839 Something's going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What's going to happen? 3 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:28.160 I welcome to the occult Rejects. We have a fantastic 4 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:31.239 show planned for you. But before we get to the 5 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:34.840 guest of honor, let's go around the room, go around 6 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:38.640 the panel and introduce each other. We'll start with the 7 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.880 Mad Scientists in the corner. Lisa, how are you. 8 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.039 I'm doing well, Thank you, Tim. I'm very excited to 9 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:51.759 be here, looking forward to simple studies marios always giving 10 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:56.920 like knowledge to fill your brain, to go on and 11 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:01.000 wonder to more. I'd like to plug the Quote Researchest 12 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:04.680 dot org. A lot of some of our recheck contribute there, 13 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.560 especially Ethan has contributed, some jen is considered read some 14 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:10.959 audio and so if you could check us out there 15 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:12.480 on a Quote Research Institute dot. 16 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:19.000 Thank you, Thank you, Jim the Ninja, how are you, sir? 17 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:23.200 Hey Tim, what's up? So great to see you. Great 18 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.719 job about this. It's I think it's hilarious that makes 19 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.200 people do this. I've done it once before, so I 20 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:34.000 feel you. So I'm gonna plug. Obviously, my show, which 21 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:38.640 is Threshold Saints tons of upcoming episodes this month and 22 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:43.599 next month, literally two a week, maybe three so pactful 23 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:46.760 and also the Gray Lodge, so we have a Gray 24 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.680 Lodge YouTube channel. We will be live streaming our Friday 25 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:54.599 night Gnostic Mass as well as our Speculative Ontology. Speculative 26 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:57.439 Gnostics series will be starting to see that Friday night, 27 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.159 so you're interested follow us on Twitter, you can follow 28 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:02.760 me out will Carmen me Born to be uk O 29 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:05.319 and g Reborn or to ig Or on the show. 30 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.719 Count at threshold sins and thank you to the panel 31 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:11.319 of course, Mario, who's also been super supportive of the 32 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:14.319 Great Lodge and the spaces, so of course I have 33 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.479 to pay homage. Thank you so much. And thank you 34 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:18.039 Nick of course for inviting me. 35 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:21.479 Of course, and of course we have Nick. 36 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:27.000 I don't know, yeah, thanks for going Nick, good, Thanks 37 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:29.719 thanks for coming on. My voice is still shot, which 38 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:31.520 is why I have you doing the intro kind of too, 39 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:33.400 but that is an idea. I think I'm going to 40 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.639 start just making everybody doing the intros. I mean, we're 41 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:37.319 all part of the show, right and why not. So 42 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.840 thank you very much for doing the intro. I really 43 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:43.680 appreciate you always coming on, Tim, and you know, Mario, 44 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:45.919 it's always amazing to have you on the show. I 45 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.039 always appreciate it. It's always you know, magic, so uh yeah, 46 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:50.599 the occult rechecks check us out. 47 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.680 Thank you, thank you, Tyrone. What's up? Man? 48 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.199 Welcome, Thank you for letting me come here. I appreciate it. 49 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.479 Uh you know, it's always been great to be here 50 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:04.680 with you guys. You can find everything about me on 51 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.960 rebirth oftheword dot com. Everything anything from my YouTube channel 52 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:12.680 to my Spotify to just reading articles you'll find on there. 53 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:13.800 Thank you. I appreciate it. 54 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:16.879 Headless Giant, what's up? 55 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.840 How's going? Everybody? You can find me on x at 56 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.120 the Headless Giant and on Twitter at the Headless Giant. 57 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:27.680 And if you have any sort of paranormal slash weird 58 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:30.560 dream stories, you can send them to my email at 59 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.840 the Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot com and we 60 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:36.879 will read those out on Thursdays. So check that out. 61 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:37.439 Thank you. 62 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:39.319 Yeah, check that out. 63 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.599 And we have Ethan Indigo Ethan, what's up. 64 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.319 Honored to be here with you guys. Thanks for the involvement, Tim, 65 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.520 great job as at mc MARI. I'm really excited about 66 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:54.360 this and for your interpretations and sharing your knowledge and 67 00:03:54.800 --> 00:04:02.080 what a controversial subject is and Headless and Ricardo and 68 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:04.719 I have been doing a little podcast on Sundays. People 69 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:09.199 have been getting giving positive feedback about otherwise. I'm a 70 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:13.800 writer on the esoteric and the exoteric Evan and Yeah, 71 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.360 I just enjoy sharing ideas with everyone. 72 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:19.600 Thanks Sunday Mornings trialogus. 73 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:22.959 That's what I was going to ask about. Cool and 74 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.519 I am Tim Constantine my show with sixth Sensory Podcast 75 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:30.680 as always, happy to be here. I'm happy to kind 76 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.680 of introduce everyone. That's awesome, thanks for asking me and 77 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:42.279 to our guest here, the main attraction Mario from Symbolic Studies. 78 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.879 How are you, hey, Tim, I'm pretty good man. Thanks 79 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.120 for the intro and thank you for the invite Nick 80 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.120 and setting this up. Of course, really excited to dive 81 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:56.240 into all of this material with you. It is indeed controversial. 82 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.439 So as I was writing my notes and kind of 83 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:01.480 figuring out I want to talk about, I'm like, wow, 84 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:03.079 how am I going to talk about some of this stuff? 85 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.639 But I think I have a game plan and we'll 86 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.639 plow through as a team here. But I people aren't 87 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.040 familiar with my work, they can check out Symbolic Studies 88 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.360 dot com. I'm all over the place, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter 89 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:14.920 things like that. 90 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:19.000 Yeah, and you know, I'll jump in here and comment 91 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.319 on that controversial element to this work. I know what 92 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.720 you're talking about, but I do want to say from 93 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.480 my perspective, you know, we're over here, we're kind of 94 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:32.360 isolated in our isolationist culture in the West, and when 95 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.839 we hear the term Arian and stuff like that, we 96 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:38.000 automatically think many of us think about like movies like 97 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.240 American History X, and we think about skinhead guys and 98 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.160 neo Nazis, et cetera. But that Arian term, in my research, 99 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:48.680 has nothing to do with any of that, and it 100 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:55.519 comes from like the Magi priests, class Zoroastrian, Iranian stuff. 101 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:58.560 And I'll let Mario Brook all that down, but just 102 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:00.399 want to get jump in there and say that at like, 103 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.759 let's just open our minds for this one to night. 104 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:07.160 Yeah, there you go, Yeah, right on exactly. 105 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:10.360 Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm really glad you said that, 106 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:14.839 because I have here written in my notes somewhere that 107 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.600 the symbolism, the deep core symbolism that I want to 108 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:22.439 talk about, has nothing to do with Hitler, has nothing 109 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:25.079 to do with World War Two. It completely predates all 110 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.480 of that stuff, right, and so that is obviously part 111 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:32.000 of the conversation here. The word arian is very interesting, 112 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:35.759 and so there's a lot of things here that I 113 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:39.519 want to discuss that completely predate anything that has happened 114 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.680 over the last you know, one hundred and two hundred years. 115 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:44.639 So that's a great, you know thing, just to point 116 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:45.480 out right off the bat. 117 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:47.800 So one of the. 118 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.480 Things I think the show has actually started because Nick 119 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.199 was interviewing somebody. There was some conversation. Maybe you guys 120 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.160 remember at some point, but I know that World War 121 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.439 two came up, and I believe either the Swasaka came up, 122 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.240 Hiller came up, something along these lines. And I just 123 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.000 commented in the chat I was really digging the show 124 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:08.000 that that's a whole episode we could talk about this symbolically, right, 125 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.519 And so Nick invited me on. And one of the 126 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:13.720 things for me that I've always wanted to contribute to 127 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.879 this conversation, and there's authors who have certainly done this before, 128 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:25.160 is talk about the polar symbolism associated with the Nazi Party, 129 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:27.759 And to me, it feels as much it feels as 130 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:31.839 though there was a strategic campaign to include this symbolism, 131 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.720 to drag it through the mud essentially because it is powerful, 132 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:39.759 powerful stuff. The swastika, just as an example, is such 133 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:42.639 a primordial, important symbol. 134 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:44.360 Some people say it's universal. 135 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.800 It's damn near universal from what I can gather as well, 136 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.360 So many cultures you can find examples of the swastika. 137 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:51.560 All over the world. 138 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.199 So what does that mean and why would it be 139 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.480 the perfect symbol to sort of tarnish or have a 140 00:07:57.839 --> 00:07:58.759 campaign against? 141 00:07:59.040 --> 00:07:59.199 Right? 142 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.399 So, if people have followed my work, one of the 143 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:06.079 things I like to talk about is this great symbolic 144 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:11.199 shift from polar to solar. Basically right and polar symbolism 145 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:15.480 is very primordial, very ancient. It very much relates to 146 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:20.079 the last Golden Age, right, it relates to things like 147 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.360 the North Star, the northern sky, the world axis or 148 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:28.480 axis moonde. And so because I've gotten really interested in 149 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.120 that information, it's really been something that I promote heavily 150 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:37.519 because I see that it unlocks a lot of transcendental truths, 151 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:41.720 metaphysical truths. It really will take your symbolic awareness to 152 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:44.639 the next level, in my opinion, So I feel like 153 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.960 my early symbolic journey, you know, I hadn't yet come 154 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:52.200 across that material, and so I felt like, you know, 155 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.000 my sort of framework with symbolism, it just wasn't complete. 156 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.519 I felt like I was lacking almost a foundation. And 157 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.559 it wasn't until I found sacific authors that talked about 158 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.080 some of this stuff did I feel like I really 159 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:09.080 found something that was giving me, you know, structure essentially. 160 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:14.159 And this is basically traditional symbolism, and so traditional symbolism 161 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.159 to me, it really has a lot to do with 162 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:23.639 unifying principles, unifying concepts, the concept related to the center 163 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:27.200 and the idea that everything is expressed from the center 164 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:30.919 and returns back to that same center, you know, ideas 165 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:36.120 and concepts related to non duality, related to hierarchy and 166 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:41.000 the center being the apex of a hierarchy. Right, And 167 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:47.879 so this symbolism, according to traditional perennial authors, right, this 168 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:52.840 is all pervasive because with this early tradition, this primordial tradition, 169 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.480 it's been called, this is what precedes all other traditions. 170 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.440 So all tradition sense basically are echo or fragments of 171 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.200 that tradition. So you will see aspects of it all 172 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:08.919 over the place, right, And there's so many basic symbols 173 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.879 that go back to this as well. So the tree, 174 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:15.000 the world, tree, right as an example, the mountain, the 175 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:20.440 world mountain, you know, the stone, the pillar or pole 176 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:23.080 or post. That's going to be a huge one for 177 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:26.039 today basically is discussing. 178 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:25.919 All of that. 179 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.000 And what I found is that this symbolism has been 180 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:34.000 demonized in the modern world, thanks in part to things 181 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.519 like World War One and World War Two and the affiliations, right, 182 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.200 the people associated with it, and the you know, just 183 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:44.440 the different sort of historical things associated with it. So 184 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:47.200 to me this is very interesting as well because I'm 185 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.679 starting to see and I'm sure you guys have noticed this, 186 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:51.720 and this has become kind of like a talking point 187 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.480 among some people, is that sort of the programming from 188 00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:59.120 these world wars is in some ways starting to break 189 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:01.080 down for a lot of people. Yeah, or at the 190 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:04.919 very least it's starting to shift, right, And so people 191 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:08.120 are starting like Kanye West as an example, right, you know, 192 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:12.279 he's using the swastika. He has chains, swastika chains and 193 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:16.399 shirts and all this stuff. And so I'm not saying 194 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:19.519 that's necessarily a positive thing or negative thing. 195 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:20.879 It just it just is what it is. 196 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:23.960 It's things are being sort of reshaped and retoold right now. 197 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:27.440 But this cultural breakdown is definitely part of the conversation. 198 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.039 And you can't keep something like the swastika contained and 199 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:33.399 suppressed for that long. 200 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:34.679 Its power is too great. 201 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:38.840 It's existed for such a long time that it's going 202 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.720 to be known and it's going to be sort of understood. 203 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:46.000 So you know, Mariel, real quick, I just wanted to say, 204 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.279 I think I've said it before. I think that is 205 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:50.600 actually one of the more it's not calling the guy 206 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:53.279 a gangster, but the fact that he took that symbol 207 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:57.279 and fucked it off, that's a real magical I mean, 208 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:59.360 that's just fucking that's crazy. 209 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.720 You know, like that, that he had that power totally. 210 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:09.720 I'd like to throw in just one thing. It seemed 211 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.720 like it was forgotten for a long time in the 212 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.679 West before he kind of revived it, because you see, 213 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.799 before you know, the rise of Hitler and the Nazis, 214 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:23.399 there was no real conception or popular consciousness around the 215 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:26.879 swastika anymore. It had been a long sort of dormant 216 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:29.639 symbol in that part of Europe for a long time. 217 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:34.080 Yeah, yeah, if you want, at some point, if you 218 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:37.759 don't break down the Swaska, I can break down how 219 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:39.759 the Nazis got a hold of that if you want 220 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:41.799 at some point. And I just wanted to comment on 221 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.360 the Saska in general because I went out on a 222 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:47.679 limb there in the intro and brought up that term area, 223 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:49.440 and I just had a feeling we were want to 224 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:52.320 talk about that. But what I was thinking when I 225 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.440 used the term area and I was definitely thinking about 226 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:55.159 the swastika. 227 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:56.159 Man. 228 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:59.480 I don't know how far back it goes. You probably 229 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:01.320 know more about that in I, but I've read that 230 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.559 it goes back to the at least goes back to 231 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.879 the ancient Zoroastrian cults of Iran, and that's why in 232 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:11.480 nineteen thirty five Iran actually changed their name to Iran, 233 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.120 which means Rian, because they were trying to reconnect with 234 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:18.000 those Aryan roots. But you go back to like King 235 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:21.200 Darius of the old Persian Empire, and on his tomb 236 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:24.480 it says son of a Persian, son of Aryan race, 237 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.440 and all these guys were using that swastika. So I'm 238 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.919 interested in how far it goes back. 239 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:36.360 There's only two there's only two current states in the 240 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:40.120 world that use Aryan as the root for the name 241 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.600 of their country. That would be Iran. And who can 242 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.559 guess the other one Ireland? Oh oh yeah, they ran 243 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:49.720 in Ireland. 244 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:52.440 Right right? Yeah, you know. 245 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:55.799 The way I see it is that, like I said before, 246 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.840 like this concept of a center being the point of 247 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:02.960 expression and also return right, this is really this is 248 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:06.720 the basis of my metaphysical understanding of all things basically, 249 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.159 and so it permeates everything. Nothing can sort of escape 250 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.679 this concept in my opinion, from what I've gathered now, 251 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:16.600 and what I've noticed is a lot of words that 252 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:21.399 are r ar ir as headless just mentioned with Ireland 253 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:26.519 and er all go back to a northern primordial kind 254 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:30.200 of original dynamic pretty much. So like one of the 255 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:34.200 things the Arctic right ar right, King Arthur, he's like 256 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:39.399 a northern king ersa major right, a northern constellation, which 257 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:43.279 is very much related to the Swasika. So humanity almost 258 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.600 across the board when you dig deep enough into the 259 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:51.480 esoteric symbolism, it seems as though so many cultures have 260 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:54.879 this concept of a northern origin story. 261 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:59.240 And actually it's interesting. I have a book here called 262 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.320 The Arctic Home in the Vedas. 263 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:08.240 I'll tell yep exactly so the Arctic Home in the Vedas, right, 264 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.279 and so just the first sentence here the idea of 265 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:15.480 a lost ancient civilization located at the north pole right. 266 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.039 And so when I was in India, I was in 267 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.000 India a little over ten years ago, and there was 268 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:25.399 one small town. I don't know, I can't even remember 269 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:29.000 the town anymore, but you know, there was lots of taxis. 270 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:30.639 I've told this story before, so if you've heard it, 271 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:31.360 my apologies. 272 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:35.600 But there was lots of little taxis around and walking 273 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:38.720 around waiting for a taxi or finding where we're we're 274 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.120 going to go. It was really interesting to see that 275 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:46.240 a lot of these taxis had gigantic bold red stickers 276 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.159 on them and they all said Riyan and they all 277 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.360 had a red swastika right next to it. And then 278 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:57.960 the little bookstore outside for tourists had minekomf there. 279 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.799 And so that was a revelation for me at the time, 280 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:02.679 where I'm like, whoa mine comp is right here? 281 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:05.679 And then all of these people are claiming this aryan 282 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:10.399 thing with the swastika, you know, because this idea of 283 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.360 our homeland being in Hyperborea or Paradise or the original 284 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.519 garden vied, and you know, it's so ancient that I 285 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:20.399 don't think we can really escape it. I think it 286 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:24.480 goes through waves in ways where people sort of rediscover it, 287 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:27.360 have this kind of identification with it. 288 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:29.679 Right, But it just goes back to what I was saying. 289 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:32.720 Emanation from the center also returned back from the same center, 290 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:37.200 and so humanity had this sort of origin story. 291 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:40.639 All of humanity. In my opinion, it's kind of no different. 292 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:43.000 I've been thinking a lot about antennas, and just like 293 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:46.240 a simple pole emitting a signal, right, it emits from 294 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.679 the middle and it expands outward. It's not unlike a ripple, Right, 295 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.000 you throw a pebble in a pond, it ripples out 296 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.679 from the center, right, And so the signal is strongest 297 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:58.440 the closest it is to that pole, and then it 298 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:02.120 gets weaker and weaker and weaker. Right, And so humanity, 299 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.039 in my opinion, has had this fall from grace from 300 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.759 this center and sort of the further we've either literally 301 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:12.279 physically migrated away. I've been thinking a lot about nomadic 302 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:15.640 symbolism and how that's the root for all humans. Basically 303 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:19.839 is this perpetual travel. And when you're thinking about that, 304 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.759 by the way, according to what I've looked into, the 305 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:28.559 vast majority of nomadic migrations are from south to north 306 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.559 and then back again, not east to west, right, So 307 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:33.720 you're literally going to the north. So it's almost like 308 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:37.680 a symbolic pilgrimage basically in many ways, right, and so 309 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:43.839 so humanity seemingly has migrated away from the north, and 310 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.200 I think this is encoded in a lot of different 311 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:47.640 storylines as well. 312 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:52.480 Right, go ahead, Yeah, I was going to say that 313 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:56.839 there's something about the northern symbolism that is so intrinsic 314 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.400 to all of these stories that really doesn't get tension. 315 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:02.319 If you go back to the Greeks, they talk about 316 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:06.680 the separation of Udernos, the sky from the earth, and 317 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:10.559 they talk about castrating the pole. Right, So the pole 318 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.240 is that symbol that separates the sky from the earth, 319 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:16.759 and that would be at the northernmost climbs, right, So 320 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:23.559 this is where the original sky came away from the earth. 321 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:27.279 And so that's that's sort of like invisible pole is 322 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:29.599 sort of present and that symbolism as well. 323 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:33.759 If I may, If I may, When you were talking 324 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:36.880 about India, I went back and brought up one of 325 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.880 the daily mythology drops that I put on my x 326 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.160 account every now and then every single day, I do a. 327 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:44.640 Daily mythology drop and one of them was the swatsika. 328 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:51.240 And I learned that in Hinduism, the swasika represents sir Yah. 329 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:54.039 I guess that's how you say s u r Ya, 330 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:57.920 which is the Sun god, which is a prosperity and 331 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:01.599 good fortune. So, uh, you know, we had it at 332 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:03.880 one time a good thing, and then you know, most 333 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.480 people know it as the negative connotion as it is 334 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.880 today with the Nazism and so on and so forth. 335 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:11.480 But it's it's interesting. 336 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:12.400 Oh go ahead, go ahead. 337 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:14.440 No, I was just gonna say to back that up, 338 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:18.559 the one of the world's oldest religions is Jainism, related 339 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.960 to Hindus, and it is first and foremost in there. 340 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.519 Every book must have a swastika in the beginning page, 341 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:30.359 and then every temple entrance there. 342 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:32.359 Must be a swastika as well. 343 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:35.480 Did I did I come through clearly? 344 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:37.720 Oh? Yeah, yeah, definitely. 345 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:42.640 And it's it's it's interesting because oh oh yeah, I 346 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:43.119 finish off. 347 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:46.400 Go ahead, go sorry, sorry, I'm I'm I'm delaying. 348 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:47.400 I apologize you guys. 349 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.279 And also it really has and maybe Jim might be 350 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:52.279 able to build on this better than I don't mean 351 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:54.119 to put you on the spot. But it also really 352 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:57.799 has the center point. As you point out, it has 353 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:02.319 two lines intersecting with results in the four corners, which 354 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:06.079 results in the four directions and four corners of this 355 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:10.240 mandala like formation that it kind of illustrates and related 356 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:14.759 to the sun and so forth, and seasonal changes as 357 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:17.119 you point out, right right right. 358 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:20.000 That's sorry. I'm just going to jump in really quick 359 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.559 after Ethan just because he brought us. Something really interesting 360 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:26.960 about Jainism is that Jaans do have a deep contric 361 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.559 system as well. They also have a lot in common 362 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.559 with certain Temple of Set ideas in terms of self 363 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:38.480 belief and like self apotheosis. That is also part of Jainism. 364 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:42.640 And it's in general considered to be one of the 365 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:48.039 wealthiest diasporas religions in the world. And they also control 366 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:50.920 a big part of the diamond trade, so and they 367 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:58.279 also control all religious iconography iconographical publishing of Indian deities 368 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:01.200 ad hoc. So especially in the seventies, like when people 369 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:04.519 think of Hinduism, they think of those like shiny lithographs 370 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.920 with like holograms. Those were all done by Jane publishing companies. 371 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:12.160 So it was Jane's who kind of incorporated the if 372 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:15.799 you want to call it couplistic, sort of coloring elements 373 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:18.519 of the gods and the goddesses. So there's something really 374 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:23.400 interesting with Jainism and what everybody's saying there is kind 375 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:27.519 of something very primordial, very old, and a lot of 376 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:33.880 the ideas both intra Buddhism particularly, but also in modern magic, 377 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.559 like the idea of SkyFlying or sky dancing, like the 378 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:41.039 dig Embara Janes, the you know they would go skyclad. 379 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:42.799 That's the word I was looking for. I'm sorry, so 380 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.519 like Wickens use that word like skyclad, and obviously that 381 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:48.799 comes from Jainism. It's a kind of a corruption of 382 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.759 the idea. But you know, there's a lot of tontric 383 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.039 ideas I think in modern times. 384 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:57.200 I agree with you. 385 00:21:57.279 --> 00:21:59.799 Someone jumping here real, okay, because this is interesting because 386 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.119 I had already put up my mythology drop, so I 387 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:05.839 did India already and talked about how it was related 388 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.480 to the Sun guy and Jainism is actually under there. 389 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:12.079 I highlighted it stands for the seventh Saint, super Chavanta. 390 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:14.160 So this is why I want to give people idea. 391 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:17.839 So when I do these daily mythology drops. 392 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:20.880 I usually take lots of my books, and I usually 393 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.359 I have a lot of tabs on my books that 394 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:26.880 I take information from, So that way is not my opinion, 395 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.319 my theory, or my idea. I'm actually taking it from 396 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:32.799 different texts and I'm trying to put it into a 397 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:36.599 consolidated format so everybody can get the basic gist of 398 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:37.880 what is basically been saying. 399 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:38.960 So that's why I created that. 400 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:42.000 And it's funny that y'all was mentioning geniism because in 401 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:46.319 prehistoric Europe, the swasika appears on pottery, roomstones and textiles. Now, 402 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:49.359 I also went in back with somebody who was saying 403 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:52.359 about the I think in the comments, somebody was saying 404 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:57.000 something about the oldest swasika could be fined in Ukraine. 405 00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:59.839 And I actually found two websites that I like to 406 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:02.279 go to that actually brings that up. 407 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.079 And here I bring it up if Nick can bring 408 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:07.880 it up real quick. 409 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.440 But it does go back to twelve thousand years and 410 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:14.440 it gives you a history of it on Ancient Ancient 411 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:18.039 dash origins dot net. Now there's other websites that I 412 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.599 went to that said the same thing, but this was 413 00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:22.440 you know, this one gave you a good breakdown and 414 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.720 you can listen to, you know, the little article that 415 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:28.160 they have on there, and it literally gives you, you know, 416 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:32.880 the different ways how the Druids did the swatsika at 417 00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:33.359 one time. 418 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:38.319 They give you the in the twelve thousand your symbolism. 419 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:40.359 It gives you a little idea of I guess it's 420 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:45.000 found on some kind of uncovered and Missine Ukraine carved 421 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:47.960 on the ivory figurine, which dates back in incredible twelve 422 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.079 thousand years. One of the earliest cultures that are known 423 00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:53.000 to have used the swatsika was a Neolithic culture in 424 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:55.880 southern Europe in the area that is now Serbia, Croatia, 425 00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:01.440 Posnia and her Ziggovina, known as the Vinka culture, which 426 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.640 days back around eight thousand years ago. So, I mean, 427 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.359 that's pretty interesting that somebody put that in the comments 428 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:09.200 because I wanted immediately to look at it. So we 429 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:13.000 going back at least twelve thousand years with this information. Yeah, 430 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:15.759 so miss you know what, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm so sorry. 431 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:18.400 The other thing is I wanted to say, it's just 432 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.880 like with mythologies. You see how one myth was told 433 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:24.359 in a traditional oral story twelve thousand years ago and 434 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.079 now we have the Holy Bible that everybody believes in today. 435 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.480 It's the same thing with this is that they took 436 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.400 the Swazika and meant one thing back then, the Sun God. 437 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:33.720 I actually wrote an article on it. 438 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:36.119 The first representation of a god is a son because 439 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.000 of the agriculture of needs and everything else. 440 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:43.400 Yeah, so I'm trying to swing it around and take 441 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.200 it back to Tomrio here. But I do want to say, like, 442 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:50.160 if you look at some where we're talking about empire 443 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.599 lineage here, I think, and you know, you guys talked 444 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:58.000 about the Hindus, and if you look at the Brahma, 445 00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:02.480 some of the Brahma families, it came from the Caucacious Mountains. 446 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.720 There's DNA tests to prove that, as did the Scythians 447 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.880 and the Ukraine people come out of there. So if 448 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.519 you go back, you've got I want to go back 449 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.400 to this er your you are ir ar thing that 450 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:18.799 Mario broke down, that goes back to a civilization in 451 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:23.240 the north. Well, you've got er the Kalds, which was 452 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.000 an ancient city. You've got Uric, you know, the city 453 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:29.000 of Gilgamege. So if you look at that, you've got 454 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:34.000 before Babylon. There were the Kaladeans before them. I would 455 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:41.160 argue Samarans before them, Arians before that, Atlanteans. Question mark, 456 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:43.119 are you know what I'm saying? Like, are we going 457 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.960 back Mario to to an actual civilization of in the north. 458 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:51.400 It seems as though there's something to that. Yeah, definitely, 459 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:54.720 you know, I look at this place more like a field, right, 460 00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.480 and so it's like a tourist field. So I kind 461 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.759 of see it that we're existing on a plane perhaps 462 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.680 within literally this torus field dynamic, right. And so the 463 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.160 torus field is another example of this emanation from the 464 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:09.839 center and return back to that same center. And so 465 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:14.319 it seems as though all things come from a center 466 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.160 of some sort. A tree, as an example, emanates from 467 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:21.240 a seed, right, And so the north is symbolic of 468 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:26.559 this exact same center. And so northern symbolism, polar symbolism, 469 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:31.640 axial symbolism, traditional primordial symbolism, it's very much all the 470 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:35.319 same thing, in my opinion, And like the pre imminent 471 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.559 sort of symbol we have of this in the heavens 472 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:40.599 at least would be in my opinion, the North star, 473 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:44.839 the pole star, because this is really where this they 474 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.519 refer to it as the world axis, as I've already mentioned, 475 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.480 but you can refer to it as like the interstellar 476 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:54.119 axis as well. It's literally this symbolic cosmic pole that 477 00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.359 exists between all realms above and below basically right, So 478 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.960 from the North Pole to the North Star, aka the 479 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.160 Pole Star. It's called the pole star for a reason. 480 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:05.640 And so all of the fixed stars go around the 481 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:09.000 pole star, right, including the stars of the zodiac. And 482 00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:12.000 I'd like to segue just briefly to this idea of 483 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:15.559 the sun. In my opinion, what I've learned in traditional 484 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:22.240 symbolism the sun, solar symbolism is actually subordinate and younger 485 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.559 than polar symbolism. So that's a really important distinction, that 486 00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.200 solar symbolism is more of a modern thing actually in 487 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.759 the grand sort of scheme of things, basically right. And 488 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.960 so I actually have some quotes about that, and this 489 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.240 relates back to the swastika, by the way, and I 490 00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:42.000 do have some slides that we should share with the 491 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.960 Swaska in just a minute. But before that, you know, 492 00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:49.279 I have a pretty good symbolic library, and so I've 493 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.079 been collecting symbolic dictionaries from like two thousand and six 494 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.720 or seven, and I've just been buying up everything that 495 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.359 I can see whatever. So I have all of these 496 00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.839 different books, I can look up the sun in like, 497 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.240 you know, dozens of different books and I have. I've 498 00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:03.799 done stuff like that. That's how I get a lot 499 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.279 of my research personally. And what I've noticed is that 500 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.400 a lot of newer books associate the swastika with solar symbolism, 501 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:14.920 and to be honest with you, that never sat well 502 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.079 with me. It just never made sense personally. Well, that 503 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.400 was before I knew that there was this great shift 504 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:25.359 from polar to solar. So there were solar there are 505 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.119 solar deities that were once known as being polar deities. 506 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.200 You'll actually find that a lot of solar sun gods 507 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:34.079 actually have a relationship with the North Pole or Hyperborea. 508 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.720 You know that their origin story is somewhere in the 509 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:40.599 north right. And so there are a lot of deities 510 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:41.400 from ancient. 511 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.680 Cultures that were actually polar in nature, but modern people 512 00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:51.279 basically misinterpreted the symbolism and put a solar sort of dynamic. 513 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.119 So it wasn't until I found higher quality authors did 514 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.680 I start reading about the true origins of the swastika. 515 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.559 Actually being a polar symbol, not a solar symbol. Polar 516 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.759 or solar symbolism comes from polar symbolism. So the Sun 517 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.559 symbolically is also a pole, believe it or not, and 518 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.400 so on. Modern versions of the sun card as an example, 519 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.680 in the tarot, oftentimes, like in the right way, you 520 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.359 will see a young boy holding a huge pole with 521 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.359 a flag on it, because the Sun has become the 522 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.200 symbolic pole for a lot of people. It's become you know, 523 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.559 if you're a heliocentrist, you're basically saying that the Sun 524 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:31.920 is the center, the Sun is the point of pivot. 525 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.200 So symbolically, the Sun itself also has polar symbolism associated 526 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.000 to it with it. So again, polar symbolism is at 527 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:44.720 the apex of the hierarchy. Solar symbolism came afterwards and 528 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.759 is more subordinate. There was a time before solar worship. 529 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.480 There was a time before the sun had all everyone's focus. 530 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:52.279 Basically is what I'm trying to say, And there's so 531 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.880 many examples of this, but one of the things I'll 532 00:29:55.920 --> 00:30:00.680 say about axis symbolism and pole symbolism, it is the 533 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:04.400 bridge between heaven and Earth, right, and so we also 534 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.720 are axis symbols. We operate as a bridge between heaven 535 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.200 and Earth. This has been referred to as the Great Triad, 536 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.559 that there's a triune relationship between Heaven. 537 00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.720 Earth and man. We are that symbolic bridge, as is 538 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:17.279 a tree, as is a lot of things. 539 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.279 A pillar, you know, the pillar or a pillar in 540 00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:24.240 a building, symbolically separates heaven and Earth, right, and so 541 00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.680 it separates and it connects. This is what you'll see 542 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:30.319 in the Magician card. The magician holds up a wand 543 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:35.000 phallic symbolism is polar symbolism, is world access symbolism as well, 544 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:37.960 holding up that wand to the heavens, and then he's 545 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.119 pointing his other hand down to the ground as above, 546 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.799 so below he's basically saying, I connect Heaven on Earth 547 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:45.960 and I also separate Heaven on Earth. 548 00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:49.319 It's the same dynamic, right, this world axis and Maria 549 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:50.559 really go for it. 550 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.400 Have you heard of the Path of Soul's religion talked 551 00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:58.880 about by a lot of noun documentors in North America? 552 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:00.640 No Half of Souls. 553 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:08.319 It refers to this northern symbolism as the way out, Yes, exactly. 554 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.079 So this is what you get in Egypt too, And 555 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.640 so the idea is it's a transference of how you 556 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:20.880 get out of this realm from the polar being the 557 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.279 northern you know, climbs to being the sun. 558 00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.680 M hm right, yeah, yeah, exactly. 559 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:33.000 The idea that there's an actual spot in the north 560 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.880 where you can descend through the the atmosphere or something 561 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.000 it aligns with the North Star. Perhaps. 562 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.799 Yeah, it's referred to the most common way to refer 563 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.799 to it as the stairway to Heaven. Yeah, exactly, So 564 00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:49.759 the stairway to heaven exactly. So this is the opening 565 00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.960 in the cave. That's another sort of way of looking 566 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.880 at it. In royal arch freemasonry, it's the keystone, right, 567 00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.480 so the keystone is removed and so yeah, exactly. So, 568 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:03.759 you know, in my opinion, the North Star there's debate 569 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.359 whether or not the North Star shifts or doesn't shift. 570 00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.000 Some people now are convinced that it's never shifted and 571 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.039 it's always been the same. If it shifts or doesn't shift, 572 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.759 it almost doesn't matter if it shifts. However, what I've 573 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:18.319 learned is that some people say that it's actually a title, 574 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.559 that the Pole Star is more so a title almost 575 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.160 like a king. The king receives the title and receives 576 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.599 the throne, but it's not the same king perpetually, right, 577 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.359 And so the North Star is almost like a role 578 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.119 that's always been fulfilled by the star closest to that 579 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.799 axial spin right of the fixed stars going around that 580 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.559 point of pivot. And so when you really dive deep 581 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.440 into world axis symbolism, like if you look at the 582 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:46.480 name is escaping me now. But there's different myths about 583 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.799 the primordial universe being in chaos and that all of 584 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:55.519 the elements were basically fused together and it wasn't until 585 00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.519 the world Axis came to be was there actually separation 586 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.640 between heaven and Earth. So then actually they became or 587 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.279 there now was space for things to grow and you 588 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.359 know whatever mix and divide and all that. 589 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:07.960 Kind of stuff. 590 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:14.079 Right Ovid's metamorphoses, there's one of the first places it's 591 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:14.680 called the chaos. 592 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:16.880 That's basically what the chaos is all about. 593 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:22.200 Everything amalgamated sort of together in this heap until the 594 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.200 world Axis brought structure and brought order. This chaos is 595 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.519 also related to the full card. The Full always has 596 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.640 a bag with him, generally at the end of a pole. 597 00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:37.039 The poll is so significant with the full card. And 598 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.599 it's been said that there's the elements in that bag, 599 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:42.720 but everything was mixed together. So in the full card 600 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.079 you have chaos, and then that's followed by the Magician card, 601 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.559 which is order. So then you actually have the elements 602 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.200 displayed on the table, organized on the table right in 603 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:54.079 front of the magician. 604 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:56.640 So order out of chaos. Right. 605 00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.559 The world axis brings order because it brings a point 606 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.960 of pivot. So let me just finish this thought real quick. 607 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:09.840 So all leaders symbolically represent the axis. Right, the leader 608 00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:13.960 of any organization represents the poll, the points of pivot 609 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.920 for that organization. Right, you're giving orientation to your people, 610 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:21.000 That's what it represents. I did a breakdown like two 611 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.199 months ago on my channel called Death and Taurus, and 612 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.079 it was about the passing of the pope and the 613 00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.159 ushering in of this new pope, and I broke down 614 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.679 all the symbolism about how the pope is a symbolic 615 00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.840 axis or he's a symbolic poll. Right, And so if 616 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.679 it's the point of orientation, if it's the point of pivot, 617 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.800 if it's what you look towards for guidance, right, spiritual 618 00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:45.679 guidance and whatnot, it all makes sense in my opinion. 619 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.920 So if the pope is traveling, you know, in a vehicle, 620 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.440 everyone's eyes go towards the pope because he's a walking 621 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:57.880 mobile axis basically. And there's even some traditions, like my 622 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.159 understanding is an Islam, a mom actually has a relationship 623 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.880 with pole itself, like with axis, right. And there's actually 624 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.280 a lot of polar symbolism in esoteric Islam and in Sufism, 625 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.519 which I think is super super interesting and fascinating. 626 00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:15.559 Even in mainstream Islam they're making the somnambulations around the 627 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:19.800 Central Mountain, right, So there's a lot of polar symbol 628 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.960 in all of it, but it's it's kind of pars unless. 629 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:24.159 You know it. 630 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:25.719 Yeah, exactly right. 631 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.719 So well let me just say one thing, sorry Mario, 632 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:34.719 about what Headless just said, because the sort of expression 633 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:39.039 of it in Islam is actually understandable from a contract perspective. 634 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:42.400 The black cube is that of Rahu. It's very clear 635 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.480 in the Grida Prana that that is the stone of Rahu. 636 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.599 It also has the seven yonis in case in silver. 637 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.400 This is also a part of the Yoginei tntras, so 638 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.639 that that it's not polar. What the Islam is actually 639 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:02.039 referring to it's actually solar. It's solar mixed with attorney, 640 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.840 and it's both of those sort of in dialectical relationship. 641 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:08.039 So I just wanted to say that. Sorry, Mario makes 642 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:09.000 the age. 643 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:10.800 Man. 644 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.079 I ask you a question, Mario, have you read Albert 645 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.320 Church words, signs and symbols, because everything that you're talking 646 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:17.880 about I literally. 647 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.519 Learned in this book right here. No, I haven't read 648 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:22.840 that yet. I actually think I do have it though. 649 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:23.920 Yeah. 650 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:25.960 It actually am on page one. 651 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.239 Eighty seven, which is funny at one eighty seven, and 652 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.360 you know the murder and all this other stuff, how 653 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:33.119 the murder nutbers used. 654 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:39.480 But literally, that's why I brought it up, right. 655 00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:41.480 But it literally says, and I'll read it out, it 656 00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.480 says that this sign of the swartzika was found in 657 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:48.199 Britain three thousand between BC until three hundred and eighty. 658 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.599 Will proved pretty conclusively. 659 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.440 That the time of the exodus of the Druids from 660 00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:56.320 Egypt was at the time they had the swartzika, after 661 00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.360 they have converted this from the figures up the four quarters, 662 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.960 and before they had changed the same into the out 663 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.119 cross by evolution, probably more than twenty thousand years ago. 664 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.199 If Flinders Petre is right in his dates as to 665 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.639 recent his discoveries at Abodolts, then it goes on and 666 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.639 it says, thus we see how one from the cross 667 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.320 now used amongst the Christians. So he's saying that originated 668 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.880 directed from the sacred symbol of the Swartzika. So the 669 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:27.119 cross and the Swanzika have a relationship. And I'm literally 670 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.800 it's right here if anybody wants to read it for themselves. 671 00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:36.239 That book says that, man, I say something that's blowing 672 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.239 my mind, and I hope you guys find it valuable 673 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:44.039 to a relationship between Maria, what you're presenting and something 674 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:49.480 I've been thinking about from Buddhist teaching and firstly, though 675 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:57.320 more primarily the Heaven, Earth and Man symbolism I think 676 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:02.400 is very much in the great Initiator that is Thoth 677 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.400 or Hermes Trismegistus, and this is what he has mastered, 678 00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:11.519 these three levels of being, and in many different cultural 679 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.960 kind of self development systems we can find that orientation 680 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:17.079 of this trinity. 681 00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:19.559 But something that blew my mind is. 682 00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:24.400 What you were talking about, how the North and the 683 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.199 Pole is seen as the way to ascend and rise 684 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.719 up and rise out. What I'm always thinking about the 685 00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:39.840 exoteric or the primary teaching, whether it's an esoteric teaching regardless, 686 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:44.719 but the esoteric aspect of a pole in relation to 687 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.599 this rising out of a cave and rising up, well, 688 00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:53.079 that's a tube. And there's a Buddhist teaching that says 689 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.840 you're kind of stuck in a tube and you're going 690 00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:03.159 to be ascending or decent or maybe going back and forth, 691 00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:07.519 which I think in our average human development that we 692 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:08.840 do go back and forth. 693 00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.320 He talked about. He said, you go to the north 694 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:14.639 and then descend back. 695 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:18.440 Down right, And in terms of self development, we want 696 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.880 to ascend. Sometimes we go back and forth. Sometimes we 697 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.159 don't know which way to go. And in fact, we 698 00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.599 start out as a tube. We don't start out as 699 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:33.159 a heart. We start out as a digestion tube. And 700 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.039 of course we come out of the great matrix and 701 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.920 womb tube. So as you're describing the pole and that 702 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:44.440 aspect of self development and rising up, I was thinking, oh, well, 703 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.320 the esoteric aspect of the pole is the tube. Thank 704 00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.679 you for letting me share that. Yeah, if I may, 705 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:52.760 if I may. 706 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.880 When you was mentioning in the Pope, I actually This 707 00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.440 is a picture of my eighteen seventy three Bible. This 708 00:39:57.559 --> 00:39:59.559 is the oldest book that I own, is from eighteen 709 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.400 seventy three in this condition. It's a really interesting book. 710 00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:05.360 I'm slowly going through it and sharing what I have 711 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.320 on there. And it's interesting that you mentioned about the pope, 712 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:10.679 because in my eighteen seventy three Bible, if I was 713 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:12.559 at if I was born in that time frame and 714 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.480 I wanted to go to a store to buy a Bible, 715 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.039 this will probably be the Bible that I would buy, right. 716 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:20.519 And it has the apocrypha in there, and it says Abadon, 717 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.639 the Hebrew term for the destroyer of the Angel of 718 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.920 the bottomless pit, whose name in Greek is Apollon, from 719 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.480 their occurrence, and it tells you descriptions and the rabbits. 720 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:30.039 But see this is what it says. It says some 721 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.760 have applied the name to Satan exclusively. Others also applied 722 00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:35.800 to Mayama, others to the Pope of Rome. 723 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:42.559 It's a polyon. It's well, I don't know how many 724 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:44.239 rabbit holes we want to go down here. I don't 725 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:45.639 even know if I want to go down that rabbit hole. 726 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.159 But it's yeah, and it's you know, it's been conflated 727 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.719 with Semyaza and Azazel and many of these other ancient 728 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:59.760 you know, entities that sort of live and reside across 729 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.039 multiple different panels. But so, Mario, you said that, like 730 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.480 solar symbolism comes from polar symbolism. 731 00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:10.159 Yep, yeah, exactly. 732 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.719 So what was going on in the sky then? Does 733 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.519 that say something about the astrology of the ancient world 734 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.880 where there were there multiple suns? 735 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:23.280 Well, you know, that's a that's a great question. 736 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.360 The way I'll present it, well, one, I have a 737 00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:31.760 presentation called the Rising Sun Esoteric Solar Symbolism. If people 738 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.159 really want my full sort of take on that, definitely 739 00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:36.960 watch that presentation. I think it's one of my best, 740 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.079 and I talk about how solar symbolism comes from polar 741 00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:45.119 symbolism essentially, and basically, the way I break it down 742 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.719 is that there have been three, from what I gather, 743 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.639 symbolic major skyclocks. In today's world. It's the path of 744 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.440 the Sun, which is the ecliptic. So people are paying 745 00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:02.000 attention to the constellations around the ecliptic, right, So twelve 746 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.599 or thirteen based on your system, and so prior to 747 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.800 that or it almost seems as though there's like an 748 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:11.000 intermediary phase. I'm still figuring out the ways in which 749 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:15.760 to kind of word this, but undoubtedly people were looking 750 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.920 towards and still do towards the moon as a time piece, 751 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:23.039 a timekeeper, right, so the lunar skyclock, and a lot 752 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:26.719 of religions still use the lunar calendar for their holy days. 753 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:26.920 Right. 754 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.239 Well, from what I've gathered based on my research, according 755 00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:36.440 to some of these traditionalists and perennialists, the first skyclock, 756 00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:41.920 the most primordial skyclock, was actually the fixed stars going 757 00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:46.119 around the polestar. And so we're dealing with a stellar tradition, right, 758 00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:50.440 And so the fixed stars go around the polestar counter clockwise. 759 00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.760 And what I've mentioned before is that when we're dealing 760 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.719 with rotation, just like with the Kabba cube, I brought 761 00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.800 it up on this channel before, But like circumambulation rituals 762 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.440 going around a point of pivot, if the object is 763 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.440 around or if you're revolving around an object and it's 764 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.960 on your right hand side, that's a clockwise rotation. Symbolically 765 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.480 a clockwise rotation just like the sun. The sun goes clockwise, 766 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:18.119 just like our standard clock. The faces of a clock, 767 00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.000 because we're dealing with a solar tradition. In today's world 768 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:27.599 with heliocentrism, a clockwise rotation is expansive and a counter 769 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:31.159 clockwise rotation is actually contractive. It brings you closer to 770 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:33.599 the center, It brings you closer to the point of emanation. 771 00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.239 Of all things, it brings you closer to the pole itself. 772 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.320 A clock itself can even operate with that axis right 773 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.960 there in the middle. It's as well no matter how 774 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.440 if you're talking about new clocks or you're talking about 775 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.400 old clocks. It's just you just need a poll, right, 776 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.039 and then it's going to tell you the time based 777 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:50.480 off of the shadow of the sun and everything. 778 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:51.280 Go ahead, head listen. 779 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.360 Victor Schauberger talks about those two different directions as being 780 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:57.679 explosive versus implosive. 781 00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:58.800 For there you go. 782 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.119 So the impluse so for us, is what creates zero 783 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.760 point energy because it's constantly imploding upon itself like a tornado. 784 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.679 This is the the secret of the polar symbolism is 785 00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.320 that is where you find that infinite energy point. 786 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:18.280 Yeah, if I may, if I may interject really quickly, 787 00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:18.960 sorry about that. 788 00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:20.519 That. 789 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.800 I think also in Tyron mentioned in a jarred of 790 00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.880 memory is that the universe creates in pairs, and so 791 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.840 we constantly talk about polar symbolism. We talk about pole star, pullstar, 792 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.119 coors star, and somewhere in the text it's always mentioning 793 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.800 the cross. Yet no one remembers to, I guess, mention 794 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:44.000 the Southern Cross, which is the Southern Pole. In that 795 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:49.159 in the Northern hemisphere, because the countries have basically dictated 796 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.119 and rolled over the most of the Earth, is that 797 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.920 we concentrate mainly on the North Pole star as our 798 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:01.239 navigation point, as you know, kind of directions. But in 799 00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:05.199 the Southern hemisphere they use the Southern Cross as their 800 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:09.159 way of navigation the way that the Northern hemisphere uses 801 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.440 the North Pole. And when you look at the Southern Cross, 802 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.440 it pretty much looks like a cross. And so when 803 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.000 you kind of look into occultism of what the cross is, 804 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.280 you almost look at the cube cross, which is the 805 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:26.559 test react, and the test react itself is basically transcending 806 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:31.119 time and space to I guess you know, quantumly move 807 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.320 within areas. So I just wanted to interject that that 808 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:37.840 I thought that would be important to mention. 809 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.039 Sure, and that's a whole conversation could be had about 810 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:47.639 the Southern Hemisphere, Antarctica, the psyopy nature of some things 811 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.599 that are going on there, the Nazi interests in Antarctica, 812 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.239 the final experiment with the flat Earth community, and stuff 813 00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.679 like that going down there. So yeah, that's a whole conversation. 814 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.719 Yes, the one thing every country on Earth agrees on 815 00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:07.719 is that nobody should go down there without their specific intrusion. 816 00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:12.679 So it's interesting to compel them to agree. 817 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.280 Yeah, right, exactly. 818 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.519 You know something I wanted I just wanted to add 819 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:19.840 this in real quick. I've been wanting to say for 820 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.320 a minute. It's it's just kind of minor. You're talking 821 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:26.519 about like stars spinning around a pole. The may pole 822 00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:28.239 was actually a big thing to be taught to the 823 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:32.079 SS kids, you know, so I do kind of think 824 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.440 like that does look a little bit like spinning stuff. 825 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.320 I'll even say there's been times I've wanted to use that, 826 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:41.440 Like when we spoke about making that image. I've even 827 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.159 thought of using a may pole as a way to 828 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.039 explain it, like seeing all these things spiraling out of 829 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.440 that eclipse. But you know, like if you looked under 830 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:51.639 the maypole and watched it from the ground, it might 831 00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.320 look like that. So I've even wanted that type of 832 00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:55.599 ship for symbolism as well. 833 00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.159 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, exactly. Yeah. There's a ton 834 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.800 of traditions that go around a pole. The maypole is 835 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:02.239 one of them. 836 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:02.559 I know. 837 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:04.719 In Voodoo there's another pole. 838 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.480 It's called the peris still i think, and they look 839 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.159 at it as like the navel of the universe basically, right, 840 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.199 So no matter where you're at, even if you're in 841 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:16.159 the furthest extreme south, in my opinion, it's still subordinate 842 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.159 to the center that it expanded from or was expressed from. 843 00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:20.239 That's just my opinion. 844 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.159 But what I was building up to is basically the 845 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.039 leader being an axis being a bridge. The full title 846 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.519 of the pope is Pontifex Maximus and that means the 847 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:34.400 ultimate bridge builder. So he is a bridge between heaven 848 00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:41.000 and earth. Right, and so for the Germans, Hiller was 849 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.920 an axial figure. He was an axis, he was a pole, right. 850 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.239 He was supposedly or he was supposed to be the 851 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.039 point of pivot for his people. He was going to 852 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.559 be the point of orientation for his people. He's the leader. 853 00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:59.039 So all leaders literally sort of imbue this axial symbol 854 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:04.000 and this bridge between heaven and Earth, right explaining, And 855 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:09.320 so to me that's so interesting because also they use 856 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.599 the swastika, which is also an axial symbol. It's symbolic 857 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.559 of the spin of Heaven, of all spin. Really, my 858 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.519 personal opinion is Earth is not spinning. That's an inversion. 859 00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:25.199 The heavens are spinning above, right, And so they're using 860 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.079 an axial world axis symbol in the swastika, and they're 861 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:36.119 referred to as the Axis versus the Allies, the axis 862 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:41.440 of evil right now. Also very interesting that they invaded 863 00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:46.239 whole land, right, and so it's kind of embedded all 864 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.719 over the place with all of this stuff. And so 865 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.400 to me, a huge thing about this too is that 866 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:57.599 a leader is an axis, including an evil, nefarious leader. 867 00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:02.199 And so, like the Lore as an example, Lord symbolism 868 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:05.320 has a lot of axial symbolism baked into it, but 869 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:08.760 so does the Dark Lord as well. It's the same 870 00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:13.079 axis symbolism. The devil in the Devil card oftentimes is 871 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:17.559 squatting on top of like a pedestal. Right, that's kind 872 00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:20.639 of like his primordial center. Right, it looks very much 873 00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.880 in some cards like the Right Way, it kind of 874 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.079 looks like the Monolith from two thousand and one, or 875 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:28.400 it looks even like the Cobbacue, right, and so the 876 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.960 axis symbolism translates whether you're talking about a positive or 877 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.360 negative figure. And then now I think it's really fascinating. 878 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:39.039 Iran has been brought up a few times and now 879 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.559 Iran is the new axis of evil and so and 880 00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.280 they've got clear polar symbolism, you know, baked into a 881 00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:47.039 lot of what they do. 882 00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:47.679 And so. 883 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.199 To me, it's very strategic. It feels like it's a 884 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.559 it's a deliberate campaign once again to suppress this symbolism 885 00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:59.440 because it's too holistic, it's too unifying. 886 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:01.000 So yeah, so let's get to this. 887 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.599 There's there's another angle, right there is that that the 888 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:09.199 trickster spirit is always a Northern spirit. That is, that 889 00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:11.880 is a constant I found in a lot of mythology, 890 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.880 is that this trickster is a Northern polar deity. 891 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:16.320 M hmm, yeah, yeah. 892 00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:23.880 From the Mario, the Nazis during their reign acknowledged Iran 893 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.079 as being their brothers. Essentially, Hitler himself said, there are 894 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.360 there are like a potent form of the Aryan bloodlining 895 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:36.880 they're our brothers. But you know, I just want to 896 00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.119 comment on where the Nazis perhaps got that symbol from. 897 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.840 It's there's a good chance that they got it from 898 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.280 a guy who was a Sufi East and Eastern mystic 899 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.000 who was also spent time in Turkey, who was part 900 00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:55.400 of the Turkish freemasonry scene. There's a guy named Sabatandorf. So, 901 00:50:56.440 --> 00:51:00.559 because the Nazis got the symbol from the Two Lace Society, 902 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.840 which was started by Walter Nauhaus and Rudolph Bo Sabatandorf. 903 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:08.960 Those guys were these German occultists. They were in about 904 00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:14.039 ten other orders. They were again Freemason's Germanten, German Norden 905 00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:17.760 of the Holy Grail. They were Reskrucians, alchemists, they were 906 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:21.880 in everything. So they took all those influences and amalgamated 907 00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.639 them into this two Lay Society. Well, the Two Lay 908 00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:28.880 Society goes on to sort of sponsor and branch off 909 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.920 and become the German Workers Party, which becomes the Nazi Party. 910 00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:38.840 So Hitler and the Nazis simply kept the symbol. The 911 00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:43.239 Thule Society had already introduced it, and they came in 912 00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.639 and they straightened out the edges. Because the Tuley had 913 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:48.960 the edges of the Swaska bent a little bit. They 914 00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.920 came in, they straightened out the edges, kept the symbol. 915 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.760 Hitler himself, from what I've read and what I've researched, 916 00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:57.280 added all he did was add the red and the 917 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:01.440 white and black. And they did this with the Tooley's. 918 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.679 The Tulei Society had an ocult newsletter, I think it 919 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:09.079 was called the Beobacher. The Nazis kept that as well, 920 00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:13.320 and they turned it into the Nazis Party's main newsletter, 921 00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.320 a newspaper that went out. So I just want to 922 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:22.679 break that down. But I think possibly Sabatandorf got it 923 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:27.159 from some of these influences that came down from this 924 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:32.599 Magi this uh the Persian area and Magi pre sad bloodline. 925 00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:37.760 Tim, Tim, do you get the sensation that the Nazis 926 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.840 were kind of like the German form of the Mormons. 927 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:45.039 There's this magical influence sort of bubbling up from the 928 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.960 bottom and then spreading out into these different, sort of 929 00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:49.440 normified symbols. 930 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.639 I do absolutely. I mean, it would take me a 931 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.159 whole episode to break it down, but I agree with 932 00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:56.079 that for sure. 933 00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:01.320 It's like there's it's like there's ancient orders that sort 934 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.000 of come to the surface in these different movements from 935 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:04.679 time to time. 936 00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:06.280 That's what it is. 937 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.400 And that's why I brought up Iran earlier, because I mean, 938 00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:13.360 because of this Persian area and Magi group, Zoroastri and 939 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.760 all that stuff, they're all kind of a part of that. 940 00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.880 And I think in the book that Mario held up, 941 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.960 that book is by about Tilik. I think I think 942 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.840 he talked about how this whole Persian area and bloodline 943 00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:29.000 thing too. But yeah, yeah, it goes back to these 944 00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:33.599 these basically these secret orders that had this information to 945 00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:34.079 begin with. 946 00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:40.199 Yeah, really quickly, I just want to insert the edition 947 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.880 of the Black and White. I believe Jin and Nick. 948 00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.800 Please correct me if I'm wrong. Those are the color 949 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:50.440 stages of the great work, isn't it? In alchemy? Those 950 00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:54.880 are the actual re statement of when converting whatever it 951 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:57.880 is that you're working on to the different phases to 952 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.719 ultimately get you to the magnum o, this great work 953 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:01.280 in helchemy. 954 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:09.800 The Greido and Robido, Yes, that's correct. Yeah, yeh, Rubido 955 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:12.280 is the red. She's talking about the black and red, 956 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:13.840 but yeah, Albido is also. 957 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:20.519 Yeah, No, you're toullly, right, Lisa, that's a great option. 958 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.280 Yeah, that's super interesting, just real quick, just because I 959 00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:27.280 brought it up or I opened it and grabbed it here. 960 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.360 But you know, I don't have too many Iranian esoteric books, 961 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:35.199 but I have this one, The Man of Light, and 962 00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:38.079 it's by Henry Corbyn. The Man of Light in Iranian 963 00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:42.519 Sufism and uh. In it they talk about Sufi's meditating 964 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.159 on the world axis and like gaining enlightenment and stuff 965 00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:45.320 like that. 966 00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:48.199 But if you open it, it's the first image here. 967 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.719 Literally you're going to see Ursa Madrin minor, right, So 968 00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.519 it's just showing you how significant that is. It's literally 969 00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.719 the first image in the book when you open it up, right. 970 00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.920 So I see this as potentially Some authors like this 971 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:04.280 guy named W. H. Mueller in his book Polaria, he 972 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.199 talks about how he thinks that the great wars of 973 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:11.639 the world are essentially esoterically between solar and polar factions 974 00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:12.159 pretty much. 975 00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:15.119 Can I get a date on that book on Man 976 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:18.920 of Light? Yeah, yeah, totally. So let me see here, 977 00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:20.960 well you look at for that. 978 00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:24.519 I wanted to add, Timmy, you mentioned I ran kind 979 00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:27.519 of like, you know, using the swastigua, and you know, 980 00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.639 you know Patsy Party, we also saw that popping up 981 00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:33.320 with the az Off Battalion over in Ukraine. So I 982 00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:35.159 mean this gne keeps on popping up every time there's 983 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:35.400 a war. 984 00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:37.880 Yep. 985 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:41.079 So if we're looking at theos oh, go ahead. 986 00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:42.480 Oh just real quick. 987 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:44.280 I was just going to say that, you know, if 988 00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:48.360 we're talking about solar versus polar orders, right factions, right 989 00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:52.480 deep deep esoteric factions. I think it's very interesting that 990 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.760 the Nazis had the swastika. The reverence for the swastika 991 00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:59.840 clearly a pole, a point of pivot right. And then 992 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.360 the Jews also are well known for their twin pillars 993 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.519 like in front of Solomon's Temple, right, and in freemasonry, 994 00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:11.039 in esoteric Judaism and things like that. So literally it 995 00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.599 can be broken down as like the single pillar order 996 00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:17.400 versus the dual pillar order, the twin pillars right, and 997 00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:19.800 so to me it's really interesting as well, I was 998 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.239 in this camp, so I'm not throwing shade at anybody, 999 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.800 but a lot of people modern in the modern esoteric world, 1000 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:29.639 they will spend a lot of time studying and researching 1001 00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:34.639 the two pillars boas Jacquin, solar, lunar, whatever. But a 1002 00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.000 lot of times they will never study the single pillar. 1003 00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.000 And when you study the single pillar, it's polar essentially, 1004 00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.239 is what it all breaks down to in my opinion. 1005 00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.679 Mario, if I could interject, we're talking about a type 1006 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:50.599 of energy, am I right? Like you can feel this 1007 00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.679 stuff when you interact with it, but it's not really 1008 00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:56.760 clear to the audience unless they have an extended interaction 1009 00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.239 with these symbols to know what that feeling is. So 1010 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.239 I want to ask you what is the feeling you get? 1011 00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:06.039 What is I would call it drill? Right, So rill 1012 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.360 coming from that polar symbol. You've studied it for a 1013 00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:12.920 long time. I'm sure you can identify the emotions and 1014 00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:15.719 things like that associated with it in yourself. 1015 00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:18.440 Yeah, I think rill is appropriate. You know. 1016 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.800 I just think of a unity, supreme unity, you know. 1017 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:26.440 I think of the middle path, the middle way, the 1018 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:30.559 internal journey, you know, being concerned with what's happening more 1019 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:34.519 so locally and within versus without. To me, one of 1020 00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.159 the greatest ways I can break it down is polar 1021 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:41.960 symbolism brings a vertical orientation, this axis between the above 1022 00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.639 and below, and to me, in my opinion, solar symbolism 1023 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.760 has brought about a horizontal orientation where everything's completely flattened 1024 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.480 out right, and so I think that that was one 1025 00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:56.079 of the big distinctions here between these things. But if 1026 00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.000 you show the first slide, if you don't mind whoever's 1027 00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.920 controlling the deck here, it's just the standard swastika that 1028 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:02.840 you're going to find. 1029 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:04.360 Associated with the Nazis. 1030 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.360 And one of the things that did happen as well 1031 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:11.199 is that it forms more of an X THENT across right. 1032 00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:15.079 It's tilted slightly right, but it's clear that this looks 1033 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.960 like it's supposed to be moving, and in my opinion, 1034 00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:20.199 when we're talking about movement again, it goes back to 1035 00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.599 the movement of the heavens. I think that that's perhaps 1036 00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:26.239 the greatest, most transcendental, sort of symbolic example that we have, 1037 00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:30.280 so the movement of all things again around this interstellar axis. 1038 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.719 And we can go to the next slide here, and 1039 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:35.719 it's just a quote from Reneguent on. 1040 00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:41.440 Mario real quick. There's that triscalion element to the tilted 1041 00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.639 swastika that I think, you know, if people look into 1042 00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.599 the triscalion, they see it's the three sides and it's 1043 00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:50.599 in that sort of motion kind of thing. And you've 1044 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:52.719 only got two flags of the world that have the 1045 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.159 triscalion on it, which would be Sicily. 1046 00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:56.920 And the Isle of Man. 1047 00:58:57.519 --> 00:58:59.039 Yes, both of them are legs. 1048 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.079 Yeah, So I say to your point about the pole 1049 00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:08.199 and then it being flattened like a field. I looked 1050 00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:11.639 up the etymology or meaning of Poland and it means 1051 00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:12.800 people of the field. 1052 00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:15.880 So pole there is field. 1053 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.800 Just oh interesting, Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. 1054 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:23.199 If the swastika is meant to convey motion and movement, 1055 00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.360 I'm still kind of thinking about this idea of real 1056 00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:30.480 being associated with it, like that's that's very interesting to me. 1057 00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:33.280 And I just want to point out that, like from 1058 00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:36.519 what I understand, the concept of real really came about 1059 00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.760 through Edward Buller, Lytton or Lynton, who was a part 1060 00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:44.440 of that group of the Thule Society. Like they were 1061 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.679 all in the same kind of a cou circle, like 1062 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:51.159 with Sabatano or Fron even Bolobovsky. But I just want 1063 00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.840 to point out that I think this symbol like we've 1064 00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.960 presented today, in my mind, we've presented that the symbols 1065 00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.880 going back to a much much older culture and it's 1066 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:03.199 just the secret societies and the mystery schools sort of 1067 01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.480 carrying it along and passing it along like a baton. 1068 01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:09.599 Yeah, and I would love to circle back around to 1069 01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:12.159 Vrill because there's a lot to chew on with that 1070 01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:16.440 for sure. So about the Swaska, went On says in 1071 01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.159 his book Fundamental Symbols. In my opinion, this is one 1072 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.440 of the greatest symbolic books you can get your hands 1073 01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:24.519 on in the modern world. The Swaska is essentially the 1074 01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:27.000 sign of the poll. It would seem that in modern 1075 01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:31.039 Europe it's true significance has never been made known. Most 1076 01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:33.679 often it is made out to be a solar sign. 1077 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:36.360 Exactly what I said earlier, and exactly my hunch as well. 1078 01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.639 So when I read this, it blew my mind, which 1079 01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:42.719 it could only have become accidentally and in a rather 1080 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.920 indirect way. And he has other quotes too about again 1081 01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:50.920 polar symbolism being truly primordial and solar symbolism being subordinate. 1082 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.079 So if you want to go through the next slide, 1083 01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:56.880 we were kind of already on that, but you can 1084 01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.679 see all of the different sort of variations. So the 1085 01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.400 fact that the Nazi swastika also it's rotating what way 1086 01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:09.079 in the polar direction. It's going counterclockwise, not clockwise right. 1087 01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.079 This is more primordial again, just like the fixed stars, 1088 01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.599 and just like the early skyclock, the early skyclock. Just 1089 01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.800 to be clear as well, it was really ursa major 1090 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:19.719 and minor going around the Pole Star because it was 1091 01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.519 the center of the wheel of heaven basically right at 1092 01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.119 least to northern people or people in the northern hemisphere, 1093 01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:29.800 but as far as China and India as well, they 1094 01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:34.000 had a reference, a reverence for these stars, these original 1095 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.480 seven Stars of Enlightenment or some major has been referred to, 1096 01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:37.840 so you can go to. 1097 01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:41.039 You could see a little bit of the triscalion in 1098 01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.639 some of those symbols, and the triscalion is said to 1099 01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:47.559 be the oldest symbol in human history. 1100 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:53.239 Someone in the chat brought up the idea of well field, 1101 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:56.559 which is a Chinese character for a farm, and it 1102 01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:01.039 also forms the character for sun as well. I just 1103 01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:04.960 wanted to say this, in Chinese cosmology, like the Pole 1104 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:08.079 Star symbolism is extremely important. It's related to the Temple 1105 01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:11.039 of Heaven in Beijing, which people will sometimes say is 1106 01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:14.559 like a Taoist temple, but that's really a Tangrist or 1107 01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:19.280 a kind of heaven worship temple, and so the star 1108 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.880 sort of asterism worship is a really important idea in 1109 01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:27.079 Chinese culture because they've had different periods where they preferred 1110 01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.880 planets or stars, but the sort of pole star, and 1111 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.760 it's there are also Buddhist parallels, but it's a very 1112 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:38.960 important deity for both that kind of like Manchurian Tangrism 1113 01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:42.840 as well as East Asian Buddhism. Sorry, I just wanted to. 1114 01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:44.360 No right on, thank you. 1115 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.079 So the next slide you can go to it's just 1116 01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:51.679 more examples, right, obviously of Swaska's around the world. 1117 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:54.119 But there you go. 1118 01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.440 There's the there's some major going around the Pole Star. Right, 1119 01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:00.360 So my understanding I've said this so many times before 1120 01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:02.760 as well, but I actually think we get the number seven. 1121 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:05.920 The literally the shape of the number seven, I think 1122 01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:08.760 is a northern shape. I think it relates to basically, 1123 01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:12.000 when you're looking at or some major the end of 1124 01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:16.039 the vessel, part of the dipper points towards the Pole Star, 1125 01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:19.280 and so there's kind of an implied line from that 1126 01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.519 last star there towards the Pole Star, and it looks 1127 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.199 just like the number seven. And so the number seven 1128 01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:28.719 is so significant and so important for so many different reasons. 1129 01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:29.760 It's absolutely wild. 1130 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:35.599 So there's even rail Mario, if I get interject real quick, 1131 01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:38.400 think about the Little Dipper and the question mark. 1132 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:43.639 Hmm, there you go, that's what you're saying. 1133 01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:47.320 Yeah, yeah, right right, Well, speaking of the Little Dipper, 1134 01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:51.079 if you go to the next slide, you'll see the 1135 01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:53.920 Little Dipper as well, or some major and URSA minors, 1136 01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.159 So that's what I'm talking about. So people have said 1137 01:03:56.199 --> 01:03:58.480 that basically it's URSA major going around the Pole Star 1138 01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:01.559 like four times a year, one per season, right, just 1139 01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:04.639 almost if you take a snapshot, which again seems as 1140 01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:08.519 though this was the primordial skyclock things. Time was a 1141 01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:11.119 bit different, people had a different interpretation of time. So 1142 01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:14.239 you're following URSA major going around the Pole Star once 1143 01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:17.519 a year basically, right. And there's all sorts of different 1144 01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:20.719 ways in which people use URSA major and minor for 1145 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.800 like eye tests and like things like that. So it 1146 01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:26.440 goes on and on and on and on. The Dipper 1147 01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:32.480 history is absolutely wild. You can cruise through the next 1148 01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.679 slide and go to the Black Sun, I think because 1149 01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:41.519 to me, in many ways these are like very closely related. 1150 01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:45.320 And so once again this to me just it just 1151 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.800 feels like a wheel, you know, wheel symbolism. We're talking 1152 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.679 about India. India's flag is a wheel. You can't have 1153 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:56.000 a wheel without the central axis. Right, So there's twelve 1154 01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.239 spokes right that are emanating. They're all going. By the way, 1155 01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.360 once again, if there's a rotation here, it looks like 1156 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:03.320 it's going counterclockwise, not clockwise. 1157 01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:04.119 Right. 1158 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.239 You could even say, by the way I've talked about this, 1159 01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:10.800 there is an aspect here. You can basically make the 1160 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:13.280 argument that the left hand path is polar, that there's 1161 01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:15.440 a whole aspect of the left hand path being polar. 1162 01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:19.760 And if you're going around a central totem counterclockwise, that 1163 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:22.760 central totem is actually on your left hand side as well. Right, 1164 01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:27.719 So there's even a left hand dynamic with counterclockwise rotation. 1165 01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.960 And when you get into like black magic and some 1166 01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:36.199 of these authors I'm thinking of, like Kenneth Grant, I'm 1167 01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:39.920 thinking of like Michael Lakino, Stephen Flowers, things like that. 1168 01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:43.440 Some of these guys they're all about Nazi symbolism and 1169 01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:47.639 they have a whole relationship with the black sun and Saturn. 1170 01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:48.320 And all sorts of things. 1171 01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.239 Right, But to me, This feels almost just like a 1172 01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:55.840 more circular, a more wheel like Swasika essentially, but the 1173 01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:57.880 fact that there's twelve spokes. 1174 01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.000 Mario, can I ask you a question. Do you think 1175 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.119 I think the Nazis came up with the sun and 1176 01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:06.880 ride or did it exist prior to them, you know, 1177 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:10.639 putting it in the basement of that Castleabelsburg. 1178 01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:12.679 I don't know. I'm not sure where it came from, 1179 01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:13.400 to be honest. 1180 01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:17.280 With you, have you ever read through that Vivelsburg working 1181 01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:17.880 that a Quino? 1182 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:18.519 Did you know? 1183 01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:21.639 He went to the castle and I think I've read 1184 01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:24.920 through his own writings on that, and it seems like 1185 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:28.159 he was trying to interact directly with the black Sun 1186 01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:33.440 and used the black Sun symbolism that's you know, ingrained 1187 01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:36.280 in like the marble floors and put up on the 1188 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:39.440 walls of the Vivelsburg castle that Himer had, you know. 1189 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:43.360 But this is like tied to inner Earth too, And 1190 01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:46.719 what was the Nazis at least because they were speaking 1191 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:51.360 of real they believed that there was an entrances to 1192 01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:54.400 the inner Earth, and they believed furthermore, they believe some 1193 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:57.320 of the entrances were up at the North Pole, up 1194 01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.880 near that whole Hyperborean thing, and also that there was 1195 01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:04.159 like a race down there. And part of the belief 1196 01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:07.559 was that inside the Earth they didn't have a sun 1197 01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:10.280 in there, but they had some other form of energy 1198 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.559 that they call it the black Sun. That it was 1199 01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:16.320 like the like the sun up here on the surface 1200 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.920 procures the life force for plants and stuff. Well down there, 1201 01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:23.480 it was the black Sun that had some sort of 1202 01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:27.599 a life force energy for real like stuff that facilitated 1203 01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:29.719 life down there. I always thought that that was fascinating. 1204 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.039 Yeah, Wikipedia says it was the Nazi symbols, so it 1205 01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.760 didn't actually have a version before that. But I think 1206 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:40.239 that's just too convenient because it's got the twelve spokes, 1207 01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:45.119 which is perfect for that coolar symbolism, you know. I mean, 1208 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:48.320 how could it not have existed before the time of 1209 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:50.400 the Nazis, That's what I want. I want to know. 1210 01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:55.280 So, in my opinion, the Black Sun from everything I've gathered, 1211 01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:57.480 if you want to skip a couple of slides and 1212 01:07:57.599 --> 01:07:59.360 go to the list, there's a list that I have here, 1213 01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:03.880 and there is the tile work in the castle. We 1214 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.280 can go past that there. 1215 01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:05.920 You go right here. 1216 01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:11.920 When we're referring to the spiritual sun, black sun, philosopher's son, 1217 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:17.119 midnight sun, invisible sun, central Sun, or secret son. We're 1218 01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:19.600 actually referring to the exact same thing in my opinion, 1219 01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:24.159 in my estimation, and it's actually a stationary son at 1220 01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:26.960 where the center. That's why it has so much center 1221 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:29.840 symbolism associated with it, and that's why a lot of 1222 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:33.239 symbols that associate with the center as well have been 1223 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.600 related to the center of the world. And I think 1224 01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:41.600 that there has been basically it's been misunderstood, and I 1225 01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.840 don't personally. I know that there's major caverns, I know 1226 01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:49.239 that there's major things underneath the earth, but I am 1227 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:53.119 not personally like a hollow earther person. So when I 1228 01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:55.359 think of the center of the earth, I don't think 1229 01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:58.680 of actually penetrating the earth. I'm only thinking of the 1230 01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:01.199 middle of the earth, like as in the north, as 1231 01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:04.520 in the central pole, basically right the world axis. So really, 1232 01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:07.159 in actuality, the black Sun is a world access symbol. 1233 01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:10.000 It represents the center of the wheel, it represents the 1234 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:12.439 point of pivot for all things. It's just it's a 1235 01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:17.880 more esoteric understanding of things. And even midnight, the midnight sun, 1236 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:22.000 the midnight time of day, time of night, midnight has 1237 01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:25.399 all sorts of polar connotations with it. There's a reason why, 1238 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:29.479 as an example, you know the Catholic Mass, the midnight 1239 01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:33.439 Mass happens. You know in Capricorn. There's a huge attorning 1240 01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.960 aspect with midnight. You know, the turning of the year 1241 01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:39.399 from year to year. You know at midnight. All of 1242 01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:43.800 the midnight celebrations, generally in the West, happened during Capricorn season, 1243 01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:46.840 and so there's a lot of good reasons for that. 1244 01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.159 And also I'll just say, twelve o'clock on a clock 1245 01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:51.159 is pointing up. 1246 01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:55.720 North on a compass is pointed up, so literally twelve 1247 01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:59.199 o'clock on a clock face and then North is in 1248 01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:01.720 the exact same position. So I made a video about this, 1249 01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:03.720 about all of the ways in which it relates to 1250 01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:04.119 each other. 1251 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:05.880 So that's my person. 1252 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:09.119 We also have to consider how cold it is in 1253 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.560 the winter, so you could see the entire sky. There's 1254 01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:16.279 no humidity, there's no clouds, there's nothing blocking your view 1255 01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:21.079 of the entire night sky. So to have these celebrations 1256 01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:24.319 in the winter time seems so natural. You know, you've 1257 01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:27.560 got all these fires and everything, you know, glowing and 1258 01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:30.159 then you're looking up at the sky and you're appreciating 1259 01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:33.000 your gods. In that way, it makes so much more 1260 01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:39.520 sense to appreciate this polar sort of world in the wintertime. 1261 01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:43.159 M Yeah, I mean even the Northern lights. 1262 01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:45.479 You know, there's a whole thing with the Northern lights 1263 01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.239 and the symbolism behind the Northern lights and what that 1264 01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:51.640 represents and everything else. Also, Christmas is like the most 1265 01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:53.640 overt northern holiday that we actually have. 1266 01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.680 Where does Santa come from? It comes from the North Pole. 1267 01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:00.560 It's more of a modern tradition, but the whole dynamic 1268 01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.840 of putting a star on top of a tree, that's 1269 01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:05.920 the North Star on top of the world tree, that's 1270 01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:07.960 basically the world axis in your home, and you're putting 1271 01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:10.000 the central star, you know, right on top of it. 1272 01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.640 In my opinion, so if you just want to go 1273 01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:18.520 up one slide, this is one of Gwennan's quotes. He says, 1274 01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:22.079 it goes without saying that these two symbolisms, polar and solar, 1275 01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:24.880 must never be confused, and that, as we have often indicated, 1276 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:29.439 polar symbolism is far more fundamental and in fact truly primordial. 1277 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:32.439 I can't find anything that contradicts to this personally, that's 1278 01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:35.840 just though. And then if you just want to go 1279 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:38.000 back to the black sun symbol to just go up 1280 01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:41.159 one or two, you know, we're dealing with twelve spokes. 1281 01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:47.079 That means there's a hidden relationship with the number thirteen. Right, 1282 01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:50.920 The number thirteen breaks cycles. It's even been said that 1283 01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:55.039 the number thirteen breaks solar cycles. And so in the 1284 01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:58.640 astrology world, there's you know, people debate on whether there's 1285 01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.800 twelve or thirteen signs. If you have twelve, you know, signs, 1286 01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:05.960 that means that there's actually a relationship with the number 1287 01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:08.880 thirteen because also there's the point of pivot in the middle. 1288 01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:09.159 Right. 1289 01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:12.279 If there's a thirteenth sign, however, which it would be 1290 01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:13.399 a Luturus. 1291 01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:17.560 Lunar calendar, that's exactly right, the luter calendar would include 1292 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:18.479 that thirteenth sign. 1293 01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:20.319 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. 1294 01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:25.680 So when you get deep into a fucus symbolism and 1295 01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:29.960 you start understanding why it's the thirteenth sign, it's because 1296 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.520 it breaks solar paradigms, It breaks solar patterns thoroughly. And 1297 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:37.840 actually a fucus is more central, which means that it's 1298 01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:41.640 actually more northern than all of the other signs. A 1299 01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:44.600 fucus has been referred to as a bend in the 1300 01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:48.920 river or the exit from the zodiac where to the 1301 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.319 northern sky. That's what it's all about. That's what a 1302 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.520 fucus is, the most polar sign in the zodiac, which 1303 01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:58.000 is why it's such a controversial sign. 1304 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:02.079 Right away, those are just some of my thoughts, you know, 1305 01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:03.039 on the block sum there. 1306 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:11.319 So Aquino wrote that he was in here in the 1307 01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:17.760 Hall of the Dead in Heimrich Kindler's sanctorium. He talks 1308 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.880 about how I just think this is interesting, right, so 1309 01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:21.199 I'm just gonna throw it in and he's like he 1310 01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:24.560 talks about how he starts to see sigils before him 1311 01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:28.439 and they go on to like influence the order of 1312 01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:33.479 the trapezoid. But he's like, you know, I see, I 1313 01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:37.720 see the two lower points, the three curved sixes, the 1314 01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:40.760 trient rising from the flames of Hell. I saw its 1315 01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:43.560 ladder design in the church, the sixes and the flames 1316 01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:46.439 now gone. And he just goes on to kind of 1317 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:50.119 talk about how he's he's adapting the sisual based on 1318 01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:52.520 this vision that he has, and he says in here 1319 01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:56.840 somewhere where that the feeling of the room rushed over him, 1320 01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:03.479 and it's like, man, this guy's like totally embracing like stuff. 1321 01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:07.520 I totally get what he's doing, though I do understand 1322 01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:11.279 from a tontric perspective, like he's trying to receive the word. 1323 01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:14.239 This is obviously a big part of the order of 1324 01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:19.319 trapezoids is the keywords from each angle represents a key word. 1325 01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:23.279 They don't have all the keywords. A Quano didn't leave 1326 01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:25.359 them all of them. That's just sort of the lore 1327 01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:28.640 as far as I understand it. And so it's always 1328 01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:32.359 like this kind of search for the spectral, like Mario's 1329 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:36.640 talking about, like the thirteenth sort of it's an axial pivot. 1330 01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:39.840 So this is like very contric again, like this is 1331 01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:43.039 why there's two real factions. There's like the faction that 1332 01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:46.760 draw from the ETAs in this like kind of tenth 1333 01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:53.840 century Pagan kang material, and then there's also people who 1334 01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:57.680 draw from Tontra. And then like so this more you know, 1335 01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:00.600 primordial Himalayan stuff, because like when you guys are talking 1336 01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:04.359 about like our Ariyans, this is very well understood for 1337 01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:06.000 East Asians. I know this is going to be a 1338 01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:09.560 sort of surprised people. But Tibetans believe that they are Ariya, 1339 01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:12.960 they believe that they are noble, they think that they're 1340 01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:16.079 the shows and ones. So it's it's often a matter 1341 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:19.640 of perspective, often a matter of view, like who do 1342 01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:22.000 you put in the place of the Magi. Well, if 1343 01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:24.359 you ask men Buddhists, they would say that they are 1344 01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:28.079 the true inheritors of like the tradition of the magi, 1345 01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:31.119 because we even practice homa to this day, which is 1346 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:34.880 a fire worship. So I'm just saying that there are 1347 01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:39.279 you know, there are racial component is only one layer. 1348 01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:43.119 It's really like so much more further ranging than that. 1349 01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:47.560 Even geographical like what is considered the north, like Kazakhstan 1350 01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:50.600 considers itself the north, Like where I live is considered 1351 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:51.359 to be like. 1352 01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:54.000 Subarctic exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 1353 01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:56.199 No, No, that that's the whole entire thing is the 1354 01:15:56.279 --> 01:16:00.399 center is everywhere, and so so from what I've gathered 1355 01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:04.560 is that the original homeland potentially was at the north. Uh, 1356 01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:07.720 the original pilgrimage location was at the north. So that 1357 01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:13.520 means that all pilgrimage locations all places where people kind 1358 01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.680 of like plant their flag, they put their pole in 1359 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.800 the ground, right and they call this home and they 1360 01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:21.600 say that this is I think it's a very healthy 1361 01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:24.840 thing for a culture or a group of people to 1362 01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:27.159 have a place in their backyard that they consider to 1363 01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:29.760 be the navel of the earth, the center of the world, right, 1364 01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:31.880 And so there's so many examples of this. 1365 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:33.880 That's healthy, that's really healthy. 1366 01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:36.960 And also it goes back to this primorial origin story 1367 01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:39.960 that all of humanity has, even at a level. 1368 01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:43.000 Oh just real quick, you're not like what happens though? 1369 01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:47.439 What do you mean is what's the only version of 1370 01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:49.880 polar symbolism North America has? 1371 01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:53.560 It depends on how glogacysm. 1372 01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:56.840 I mean, that's the only. 1373 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:02.319 There's actually multiple. Now there's you know, you have Tibetan 1374 01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:06.319 Buddhism that obviously I Nick showed the image. There's that's 1375 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:10.279 sort of the symbol also of Bonpo, which is the 1376 01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:13.760 primordial they say twenty six thousand years. That's their own dating. 1377 01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:17.000 They say they're the pre Deluvian religion. So I'm just 1378 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:18.720 passing it along. I don't belong to it. 1379 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:21.720 I thought you were. 1380 01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:24.039 Go ahead. 1381 01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:28.399 Uh sorry, I'm I'm delayed. 1382 01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:28.920 I'm delayed. 1383 01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:29.680 I'm sorry I have this. 1384 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:32.000 I was gonna say I thought you were talking about 1385 01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:34.239 the Hope and Navajo and other. 1386 01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:36.279 American Indian Yeah, exactly. 1387 01:17:37.359 --> 01:17:41.680 With the swastika, and before World War Two, many people 1388 01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:44.760 in the United States were used it as a fashion 1389 01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:48.880 symbol and also many American Native American culture did too, 1390 01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:52.600 just because they had already you know, found it to 1391 01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:53.239 be profound. 1392 01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:56.680 It's it's true, we think, but it goes back to 1393 01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.800 the concept of what is this rill? What is this 1394 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:05.680 energy coming from this north place? And in my experience, 1395 01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:08.680 it feels like a slap across the face. That's what 1396 01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:13.199 real feels like to me. It's like, wake up, wake up, 1397 01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:14.399 what are you doing? 1398 01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:15.520 Right? 1399 01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:19.319 That slap across the face feeling? Is this kind of 1400 01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:24.319 brill that is before like a combat scenario, You've got 1401 01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:28.479 to wake up. And if everything in America is pointing 1402 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:32.960 to this thirteen right, we've got thirteen colonies, thirteen arrows, 1403 01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:38.119 thirteen stars, all these thirteens, it's pointing towards that same 1404 01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:40.560 kind of slap in the face feeling. 1405 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:41.560 Right. 1406 01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:47.239 I'm not saying that, you know, all polar symbolism is that, 1407 01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:51.399 but that's an element of it. You know, that slap 1408 01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:54.760 in the face, cold water, wake up, what are you 1409 01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:58.479 doing with your life. Kind of feeling goes along with 1410 01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:02.359 this polar symbolism that I think is rising up in 1411 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:04.640 the current eon we're entering into. 1412 01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:08.920 You know, it's interesting too, there's a lot to be 1413 01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:13.039 said about the age of Aquarius potentially bringing about a 1414 01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:17.399 polar age, and just my sort of loose interpretation of that, 1415 01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:21.760 my armchair interpretation of that. It's fascinating that the card 1416 01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:25.079 that corresponds with Aquarius in the major arcana is the 1417 01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:29.439 star card. There's usually seven stars in the heavens, either 1418 01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:33.720 seven in total or one with seven surrounding it. I've 1419 01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:37.439 made multiple videos and presentations about how this is the 1420 01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:40.520 star of stars. It's the pole star, right, So there's 1421 01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:44.119 a direct in my opinion. I know there's room for 1422 01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:47.000 debate here, but in my opinion, it's a reference to 1423 01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:50.119 the North Star. And so isn't that interesting there's a 1424 01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:53.159 north star connection with Aquarius. There's actually north star northern 1425 01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.720 connection with all the signs in my opinion, and actually 1426 01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.239 the origins of the zodiac itself. 1427 01:19:57.800 --> 01:19:58.920 You know, it's the same. 1428 01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:01.640 Story above and below this idea about man migrating or 1429 01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:03.880 having an arcticome land, it's the exact same thing with 1430 01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:09.479 the stars in my estimation from what I can gather, right, So, yeah, 1431 01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:11.760 something I want to think it. 1432 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:14.920 Goes back to the tricksters. 1433 01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:18.399 Oh go ahead, No, I agree with that too, actually 1434 01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:20.439 head of those. Yeah, I like the trickster, the astro 1435 01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:23.399 theological trickster that as I like to call it. And 1436 01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:28.000 these conjunctions like we've got this Saturn Neptune conjunction and 1437 01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:31.760 coming up next year, and some people were talking about 1438 01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:35.119 how it's going to you know, be a Renaissance type 1439 01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:36.119 of a period. 1440 01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:39.760 Zero point ingress. I just want to say, zero point 1441 01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:40.720 ingress is happening. 1442 01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:44.680 And I was gonna I was wondering what, you know, 1443 01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:49.279 what Mario sees as far as those conjunctions, like, is 1444 01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:53.640 there anything you know significantly polar in in the cards 1445 01:20:53.720 --> 01:20:54.359 for the future. 1446 01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:56.159 I think it is. 1447 01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.680 Well, no, sorry, that's what we're saying about the trickster thing. 1448 01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:03.640 No, that's that's that's my point. It's like, look around 1449 01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:05.960 at what's going on around us. This is not just 1450 01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:12.279 confined to these esoteric reviews of symbols. It's happening right now. 1451 01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:17.800 We're seeing this shift from solar back to polar. We're 1452 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:20.800 seeing it happen in front of us. That's what we're feeling. 1453 01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:24.880 You know this, this is current events. I think a 1454 01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:28.159 lot of people don't understand that. But there's a shift 1455 01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:32.840 in consciousness happening. Whether we accept it as being like 1456 01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:36.119 a fourth dimensional, fifth dimensional kind of thing, it's not 1457 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:40.560 the thing that's happening. There is a shift in consciousness. 1458 01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:43.560 And well, there's a shift in consciousness if we decide 1459 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:47.960 that we're all moving in an axial system. I personally 1460 01:21:48.039 --> 01:21:50.359 believe we are moving in an axial system as well, 1461 01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:54.279 but I'm also good at so we believe in axial system. 1462 01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:56.520 That's like kind of foundational for us. 1463 01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:01.359 So that's what the foundational aspect of it. It's like 1464 01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:04.039 there's a shift in the foundation itself. 1465 01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:09.319 I think if you're just like totally oblivious to everything, 1466 01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:10.600 then it doesn't matter. 1467 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:14.199 Well, I think when i'm something I kind of wanted 1468 01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:14.880 to throw in here. 1469 01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:19.199 How I think what Headless was trying to say, how 1470 01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:22.000 I was seeing it is that like during the Nazi party, 1471 01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:25.359 and I would say, now, now you're seeing the swasticker. 1472 01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:27.399 No matter how the fuck it's used, it's still popping 1473 01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:31.279 up regardless, it's showing up in different areas, and people 1474 01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.119 are getting into this mindset. Something's got to change and 1475 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:37.880 people start rising up regardless of what the outcome is. 1476 01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:40.880 I what I was gonna say is I do see 1477 01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:44.720 how I think the Nazi Party, you know, with Hitler, 1478 01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:45.840 perfected that. 1479 01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:48.760 Kind of rise up change. 1480 01:22:49.039 --> 01:22:51.520 What the fuck is wrong? These peoples are bad? That 1481 01:22:51.680 --> 01:22:54.680 person's bad. Why we're letting this happen? And we're seeing 1482 01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:56.800 it again now when we had oh. 1483 01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:59.560 The trainees, these people, COVID. 1484 01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:02.279 All this stuff is all, you know whatever, you're seeing 1485 01:23:02.319 --> 01:23:06.560 it again now Trump may not be fucking wearing the swastika, 1486 01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:10.600 but it's showing up in other countries anyway, right. 1487 01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:15.159 And you know, if we look at ourselves and understand that, hey, 1488 01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:20.119 you know, there's a shift that's been delayed a long time, 1489 01:23:20.520 --> 01:23:23.840 and we all know that a lot of people are 1490 01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:29.520 just coasting because they don't have to consider any of 1491 01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:33.680 the energetic consequences of their actions. You know, like it's 1492 01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.840 just not a thing where we live right now. But 1493 01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:40.920 if we take an introspective look at what we've done, 1494 01:23:42.239 --> 01:23:44.960 it's it's not a pretty picture, you know, because it's 1495 01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:50.119 like there's a perspective shift that's happening, right, So we're 1496 01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:54.119 seeing ourselves from outside ourselves. And I think that's what 1497 01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:58.680 things are happening with this trickster level energy because as 1498 01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:02.439 we see ourselves and the things we've done, like who 1499 01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:05.840 we've elected, what we think is going to happen, we 1500 01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:09.199 understand that that's not a reality and never has been, 1501 01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:14.319 and that's a big blow to our collective egos. You 1502 01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:16.119 know what I'm saying, It's like, that's. 1503 01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:19.640 Not that would be That would be the next big 1504 01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:24.039 shift in consciousness is people waking up from from the 1505 01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:27.279 current SiO that you know with the government stuff. 1506 01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:28.760 That's I don't want to get too political here or 1507 01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:29.600 so I'm trying to like and. 1508 01:24:29.640 --> 01:24:31.359 The next one and the next one. You know what 1509 01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:34.079 I'm saying, It's like, it's all of it is within 1510 01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:35.479 that same perspective. 1511 01:24:36.680 --> 01:24:37.399 One thing I did on. 1512 01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:41.800 Chris, you got Chris Bledsoe out there saying that there's 1513 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:46.359 a a shift in consciousness coming next year on Easter 1514 01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:51.079 that's connected with the divine fitling in so uh, Nick, 1515 01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:52.319 I think I jumped on you there. 1516 01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:54.720 Oh. 1517 01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:57.520 Another thing, I have associated that symbol with the the 1518 01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:00.359 idea of death. That's just my opinion because my own 1519 01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:04.159 experiences and in the times when you see it. You're 1520 01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.800 seeing a lot of fucking death, regardless if it's from 1521 01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:10.279 a bomb, a fake disease, an injection, whatever the fuck 1522 01:25:10.359 --> 01:25:10.560 it is. 1523 01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.920 People have been dying. Also, when you see this image rising. 1524 01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:19.439 Path souls, you know it's the path of souls. It's 1525 01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:24.800 the change in the in the equinox, when theodox shifts. Well, 1526 01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:26.079 we're seeing it. 1527 01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:29.840 You gotta remember a god was always seen in fire, 1528 01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:31.760 or most of the time he was seen in fire. 1529 01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:34.960 You know, the burning bush, the thing that led to Israelites. 1530 01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:37.000 And what does fire create? What does it do? 1531 01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:40.279 It destroys things, But it's also a rebirth after that, 1532 01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:42.239 So every time you destroy something's got to be a 1533 01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:43.159 rebirth right after. 1534 01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:46.840 That's the magician, the return when he comes back. 1535 01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:51.159 The major has also been referred to as the coffin 1536 01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:55.520 of Osiris, right, and so that's very interesting. Also, we 1537 01:25:55.640 --> 01:26:00.239 can't forget that dot, the hidden Sepharos on the cobblistic tree. 1538 01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:05.399 The eleventh is the gateway to the Clipophic tree, the 1539 01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:08.000 root side or the night side of the Tree of life, 1540 01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:13.000 and Doth associates with the north right, and so so 1541 01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:15.720 there's that relationship as well. And so the death thing definitely. 1542 01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:17.079 There's like a lot of different angles with. 1543 01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:22.600 That Zoroastra Tostrianism, with their fire, with their fire guy, 1544 01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:24.960 you know, cleansing up the body. Instead of cleansing with 1545 01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:28.000 with with water, they was cleansing with fire. 1546 01:26:28.119 --> 01:26:29.399 They had to fire. 1547 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:32.520 Yeah, I think that's I think that's a great wave. 1548 01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:41.279 Actually, Iranians are converting back to Zoroastrian religions right now 1549 01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:42.600 in record numbers. 1550 01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:45.279 I don't think they ever really if you understand how 1551 01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:50.720 Iranian Islam really worked, the Iranians never really converted to 1552 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:56.079 anything point. They've always been Zoroastrian Manichean. They've always been 1553 01:26:56.119 --> 01:26:59.880 a mystery religion country. The rumor was even during the 1554 01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.000 seventies at the the king or the prince, I'm forgetting. 1555 01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:05.399 I'm sorry, Lisa, I'm trying to I'm not being exact. 1556 01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:09.600 I know I should be more specificity. He the rumor 1557 01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:12.239 was always that he was a Zoroastrian, that they would 1558 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:15.359 import like all these animals, like very like that Rodolfo 1559 01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:18.680 guy in Mexico. They would import like lions. That's part 1560 01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:21.560 of vitic Yashna. People want to talk about, like return 1561 01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:24.319 to the worship of the ancestors and the gods like 1562 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:30.359 that requires human sacrifice, eagle sacrifice, elephant sacrifice, lion sacrifice, 1563 01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:34.079 for sacrifice literally every day into a into a like 1564 01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:37.720 a huge yajna fire. So this is not a realistic 1565 01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:42.520 it's like the click backwards that that we can't really 1566 01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:46.600 go backwards to like a Vedic you know, kingship. We 1567 01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:48.920 have to sort of move forwards. And I think that's 1568 01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:52.760 also like the tonka that I that Nick brought up 1569 01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:54.960 before with the goddess holding it like that is the 1570 01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:59.079 goddess of the pole Star. She is the Barbello of 1571 01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:02.079 the seven Mantos, the seven mothers of the Pole Star. 1572 01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:06.720 And every click backward is a click forward in time. 1573 01:28:09.680 --> 01:28:12.199 Well, it's interesting you say that headless because she did 1574 01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:17.359 a pole is actually the actual quote unquote air quotes 1575 01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:21.399 pole of her husband and she bites it off and 1576 01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:25.600 she but he actually gains it back. It's just it's 1577 01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:27.520 one part of the story, right, because that's a much 1578 01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:30.479 more sort of dharmic way to consider it. In different 1579 01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:33.680 parts of the story can there is no real chronology 1580 01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:36.399 because if you live in a dharmaic system, it's axial, 1581 01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:39.920 oxial and cyclical at the same time. So different parts 1582 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:42.760 of the story actually don't need to be in chronological order. 1583 01:28:43.319 --> 01:28:45.479 They can, but they can still be connected. 1584 01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:47.079 So that the. 1585 01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:53.920 Might represent this sort of knowledge being dormant in many 1586 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:57.479 different cultures, because you do see it showing up as 1587 01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:00.439 somebody like if you look at the Soup or the 1588 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:04.039 Sumbee tribe, they were a branch off of the Persian 1589 01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:07.880 Aryan bloodline. That's where we get Sweden. 1590 01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:12.000 Sweden was named, so maybe the Swedes seems like they 1591 01:29:12.039 --> 01:29:13.760 were part of this at some point, part of this 1592 01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:17.760 persian Arian bloodline, and they used that Swiss swastika a 1593 01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:21.159 lot over there, and even like I think there were 1594 01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:21.840 hired all. 1595 01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:25.720 He was looking and he found some records that indicated 1596 01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:31.520 that Odin from Norse mythology founded the Swedish dynasty and 1597 01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:36.239 that he came out of maybe even a Semitic bloodline. 1598 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:41.079 So it's not clear who Odin really is. That's what 1599 01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:43.199 I think is really interesting about what you're saying to 1600 01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:45.640 him is that a lot of people, like I'm not 1601 01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:48.880 into the I'm not into any paganism, but like in particular, 1602 01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:51.880 I'm not into the North stuff, but I do understand 1603 01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:54.079 it to a degree because of people around me, and 1604 01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:57.520 I will just say that he's a very dynamic figure, 1605 01:29:57.680 --> 01:30:00.560 so he can like take what to saying like that 1606 01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.720 could be part of his story. And like the thing 1607 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:07.000 about Odin, even though I don't really identify with that 1608 01:30:07.119 --> 01:30:10.520 at all, is that he can handle many stories attached 1609 01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:12.840 to him. Yeah, he's kind of like a deity of 1610 01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:17.880 the paradoxes, many paradoxes, so he can actually handle contradiction. 1611 01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:21.439 Totally. And I see Odin as being very mercurial. 1612 01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:23.399 And I know that you were talking about the trickster 1613 01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:27.359 Headless and the trickster is very mercurial as well. Right, 1614 01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:29.840 I see mercury all over the place, And actually I 1615 01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.920 would say that if there's a deity slash planet that 1616 01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:37.359 is highly polar nature, it's mercury. Always associated with the phallus, 1617 01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:40.119 with the pole, you know, all of these different types 1618 01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:43.279 of things and traveling between realms, being the messenger of 1619 01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:46.039 the gods. How is he getting there through the central axis? 1620 01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:46.880 In my opinion? 1621 01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:48.800 And so I just want to riff on a couple 1622 01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.079 of things real quick about sort of the spiritual shift 1623 01:30:51.279 --> 01:30:54.279 with everything here. So just bringing up the wheel because 1624 01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:58.399 it's appropriate with the swastika symbolically the wheel, right, we're 1625 01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:00.479 all kind of like our own wheel. The wheel is 1626 01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:04.199 one of the most important symbols out there in my estimation. 1627 01:31:04.840 --> 01:31:08.520 The outside of the wheel relates to division and multiplicity. 1628 01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:12.880 It represents being outside of self. The outside of the 1629 01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:16.880 wheel is best related to Earth itself and physicality. It's 1630 01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:19.960 the least balanced part of the wheel. And so you 1631 01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:21.600 want to go to the center of the wheel. You 1632 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:23.279 want to go to the center of your wheel, know 1633 01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:26.279 thyself and you'll know the universe. The middle of the 1634 01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:29.520 wheel is the transcendental part of the wheel because you're 1635 01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:32.760 now dealing with the axle. And when you get there, symbolically, 1636 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:36.800 you are the prime mover unmoved mover. You are immutable. 1637 01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:39.239 You cause the wheel to turn by being stationary. This 1638 01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:41.439 is going to the center of self. To me, this 1639 01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:43.920 is what polar symbolism is all about, is the center 1640 01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:47.880 of self and realizing the transcendental aspect of self that 1641 01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:53.760 completely surpasses your actual own identity and personality and birth 1642 01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:56.279 date and sun sign and all that kind of stuff. 1643 01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:58.680 You're a part of the Godhead, right, and so it's 1644 01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.720 acknowledging the most aspect of who you are. So that's 1645 01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:04.479 what polar symbolism brings about. That's why I think it's 1646 01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:07.399 actually a dangerous thing, or was a dangerous thing to promote. 1647 01:32:07.600 --> 01:32:10.560 Because it's too holistic. It brings everything back to center. 1648 01:32:11.159 --> 01:32:14.680 And what Gwennon says, who's my mentor teacher right now, 1649 01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:18.159 is that the difference between the Golden Age and the 1650 01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:21.640 current dark age that we're in is literally the loss 1651 01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:25.479 of the awareness of the center of Heaven of Earth 1652 01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:28.720 it self. Right, there's a golden thread or cord that 1653 01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:30.560 exists between the center of self and the center of 1654 01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:32.920 the cosmos, you know, And so that's kind of how 1655 01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:33.319 I see it. 1656 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:35.840 And there's a very strong heart. 1657 01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:39.880 Based aspect to polar wisdom as well, being the symbolic center, 1658 01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:42.920 one of the symbolic centers in self right, and so 1659 01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:44.880 also the heart itself also. 1660 01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:47.199 Being related to like a seed being related to. 1661 01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:50.359 A cave also pumping blood and then the blood returning 1662 01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:52.800 back to it, So it has the toroidal symbolism connected 1663 01:32:52.840 --> 01:32:56.199 to it, heart also being an anagram for Earth as well. 1664 01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:57.800 There's all sorts of things that go along with it. 1665 01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:02.880 The color green related to it, you know, the central 1666 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:04.960 chap he dealing. 1667 01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:08.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something interesting that you said Mario 1668 01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:12.319 about like the return to self, because this is the 1669 01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:14.880 difference between like maybe you could say that if you 1670 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:17.960 want to say there's a horizontal access between east and west. 1671 01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:22.479 We don't have an eternalist idea fixed self. So like 1672 01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:24.680 when you're like this, you can see this. In Islam 1673 01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.720 they have a much more i would call it Gevatic 1674 01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:31.479 and NETSC or a Venus in Mars kind of relationship 1675 01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:34.039 where they like to purify the full self, like they 1676 01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.520 want no self, but they kind of want to go 1677 01:33:36.720 --> 01:33:41.239 through the fire into annihilation. And obviously Gwennan did become 1678 01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:44.319 a Muslim in the end and so but they also 1679 01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:46.600 have that preference and just like Mormons, Mormons like that, 1680 01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:50.399 like NETSC kind of like a return infinite money, infinite 1681 01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:54.399 money magic. That's totally fine, but I'm just saying that 1682 01:33:54.560 --> 01:33:57.520 they also have like a more eternalist kind of idea 1683 01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:00.680 of the soul and like where it's like we have 1684 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:04.039 a more infinite kind of way of looking at it 1685 01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:06.680 where you can also go up, you can also come back. 1686 01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:10.479 It's like a dynamic kind of it's a dynamic action 1687 01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:13.479 of the sult rather than fixed so what and there's 1688 01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:15.560 no soul, there's no soul, sorry. 1689 01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:18.319 No worries. What camp does this fit in with the 1690 01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:19.199 concept of. 1691 01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:27.000 Getting to such a transcendental point within that the self 1692 01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:30.560 does not exist, nor does duality, nor does separate. 1693 01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:33.079 Yes, you have to be well obviously. Yeah for TNRE 1694 01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:35.960 you have to be nondual for one hundred percent like must. 1695 01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:39.000 But then there's no self. But there is a self 1696 01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:42.319 that because just because you negate something doesn't mean it 1697 01:34:42.359 --> 01:34:45.640 doesn't exist. This is ton tric logic. So yes, it's 1698 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:49.039 a little paradoxical, but we would say that the paradox 1699 01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:51.399 is always resolved in the concert. So if you're doing 1700 01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:55.319 an external deity practice, it makes sense. This, this concept 1701 01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:58.640 makes sense, is what I'm saying. And so, uh, basically 1702 01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:02.039 you get to a place of uh emptiness, which is 1703 01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.960 as Lisa so eloquently said, I often quote you, Lisa 1704 01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:07.279 saying this as masslessness and luminousness. 1705 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:11.600 So exactly that's what I mean when I when I 1706 01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:14.439 I think that when you return to your most ultimate self, 1707 01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:17.359 that that's what occurs, is what It's interesting language. 1708 01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:23.680 What I'm hearing is Jim preaching Rudolph Spangler's Decline of 1709 01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:28.720 the West. When a certain society has reached a conclusion 1710 01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:33.359 point for the questions they've had of nature. They start 1711 01:35:33.479 --> 01:35:35.520 to decline and shift. 1712 01:35:36.319 --> 01:35:40.439 Right, and so is it a decline or is it entropy? 1713 01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:45.920 And that you're inserting randomness and you're not inerting chaos, 1714 01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:51.439 you're inserting randomness. And so it's this movement towards disorder 1715 01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:55.279 in order to promote order. And it's almost like the 1716 01:35:55.359 --> 01:36:00.359 Swastika itself, in its spiral or it's infiniteness, is trying 1717 01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:05.159 to reset or maybe with the rail or the Nazis, 1718 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:07.840 we're trying to do is to throw the cards up 1719 01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:12.279 in the air so that they can create randomness in 1720 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:17.439 order to reset the deck in their favor in odds. 1721 01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:19.479 And that's I think. 1722 01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:23.920 I think when we concentrate on the actual swastika and 1723 01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:27.560 talk about systems or government systems, we are being so 1724 01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:30.920 myopic in our thoughts. It has nothing to do with Matt, 1725 01:36:31.279 --> 01:36:34.039 It has nothing to do with the current government systems 1726 01:36:34.279 --> 01:36:37.119 that are in existence today. It has everything to do 1727 01:36:37.319 --> 01:36:40.239 with creating randomness so that we can reset the odds 1728 01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:43.720 in our favor or whoever is holding the cards rather 1729 01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:45.479 or at least attempting to. 1730 01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:51.800 Ecoherence. I think that's exactly that's one of the key words. Further, 1731 01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:54.000 if you want to call it the aon. So I think, yeah, 1732 01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:57.720 that's at least exactly what she said, encapsulated perfectly. 1733 01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:02.199 Heard of sailor he burned it all down with a 1734 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:06.920 chaotic mentality, so you can rebuild rebellious mentality. 1735 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:10.640 Exactly exactly, because if you think about World War Two, 1736 01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:12.920 let's just be honest, it had nothing to do with 1737 01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:17.680 the Nazis. It had everything to do with occultism. It 1738 01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:21.720 did nothing to do anything other than I'm going to 1739 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:24.199 take your toys because I want to be a more 1740 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:25.520 powerful magician. 1741 01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:26.119 Was it? 1742 01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:26.880 That was it? 1743 01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:30.159 That's all pretty much. That's what I think. 1744 01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:35.199 It's Oswald Stangler. I kept saying Rudolph, but it's Oswald 1745 01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:37.479 Spangler clime of the West. He was not part of 1746 01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:43.079 the Nazi Party, but he was making a quantitative review 1747 01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:47.000 of the different societies that had risen up and then 1748 01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:50.920 fallen down. And so what he concluded was when they 1749 01:37:51.039 --> 01:37:56.640 had answered the questions that started those societies, then they 1750 01:37:56.960 --> 01:38:02.000 ended up declining and shifting into something else. And so 1751 01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:05.800 I think that's a really potent examination of history. Is 1752 01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:09.319 because all of this stuff comes from the mind. First, 1753 01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:13.680 you know, and so the mind of the people participating 1754 01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:18.399 in that society end up creating the aggrigores that can 1755 01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:22.279 be answered or declined, you know what I'm saying. So 1756 01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:26.840 that whole shift, I think is pretty specific to what 1757 01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:29.439 we're going through now in the United States and why 1758 01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:33.720 it's so poland you know, it all draws back into itself. 1759 01:38:35.079 --> 01:38:39.000 Also, the Nazis knew that they couldn't show the world 1760 01:38:39.159 --> 01:38:43.680 certain aspects of their full character, especially the occult stuff, 1761 01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:46.560 And that's why we're playing catch up right now, and 1762 01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:49.880 a lot of people are finding that there's a lot 1763 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:52.239 of information out there that's kind of been hanging out 1764 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:55.760 in the shadows. Like you can't just watch a lot 1765 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.359 of World War two documentaries and expect to know the 1766 01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:02.479 full nature of what went down with that war. And like, 1767 01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:06.159 the Nazis were really good at masking certain elements of 1768 01:39:06.279 --> 01:39:10.880 their character. Like even when they held the Olympics, they 1769 01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:14.359 put on a totally different, you know, facade for the world. 1770 01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:17.279 They stopped being racist to the Jews out in the streets, 1771 01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:20.159 and you know, they were harassing Jewish businesses. They stopped 1772 01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:22.600 all that, and they did other things they put on 1773 01:39:23.920 --> 01:39:25.920 They put on a mask for the camera. They knew 1774 01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:29.800 how to mask this stuff. And even like if you 1775 01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:33.279 look at the story of Hitler and the clairvoyant han Nussen, 1776 01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:38.199 Hitler kind of used him, got him on a chanologe 1777 01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:41.239 out of him, including occult knowledge and how to use 1778 01:39:41.319 --> 01:39:43.800 mandrake root and all kinds of stuff for ritual purposes. 1779 01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:47.159 And then they killed that guy. They killed him, so 1780 01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:50.439 they cleaned up after themselves, especially with this occult stuff. 1781 01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:58.920 There's so many good examples of people that have escaped 1782 01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:07.079 from both Nazism and Communism because it seemed like dueling magicians, right, 1783 01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:09.960 and you see a lot of this because, uh, if 1784 01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:13.439 you look at how the Nazis rescued El Duccea, the 1785 01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:18.279 boss of Italy, is they used a bunch of dowsers. 1786 01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:19.239 They were. 1787 01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:23.439 Divination that story, it's awesome. 1788 01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:24.840 But here's the thing. 1789 01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:28.479 They were also using it to do sub hunting. They 1790 01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:32.920 were using dowsers to show them where these different submarines 1791 01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:34.520 were in the Atlantic. 1792 01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:38.880 Yeah, there was an admiral in the Nazi navy who had. 1793 01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:47.079 Nazis who beat the Nazis, Jerald Gardner with his Cone 1794 01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:50.159 of power. Have you ever heard of the Cone of power? Ritual? 1795 01:40:50.199 --> 01:40:54.680 Within Wika. It's the polar symbolism. You're just going around 1796 01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:56.960 in a circle and you're building up energy and you're 1797 01:40:57.199 --> 01:41:00.439 driving it out towards whatever target you want it to be. 1798 01:41:01.439 --> 01:41:04.439 And they did the Code of Power ritual to disrupt 1799 01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:10.479 Nazi dowsing, which creates an at a luma, right. I 1800 01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:13.000 mean you're creating a figure eight every time you're dowsing 1801 01:41:13.119 --> 01:41:17.800 with the with the pendulums over a map. So that's 1802 01:41:18.319 --> 01:41:22.760 plar symbolism over a solar symbolism. 1803 01:41:23.720 --> 01:41:27.479 Even in Freemasonry, the. 1804 01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:29.720 What is it? 1805 01:41:29.800 --> 01:41:33.039 The plumb line is a known world access symbol, which 1806 01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:34.840 reminds me very much of a pendulum. 1807 01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:36.880 Right there you go. 1808 01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:40.680 So one of the things I was. 1809 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:43.640 Going to bring up as well is, you know Vrill 1810 01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:47.560 was brought up several times, right, and so I have 1811 01:41:47.880 --> 01:41:51.840 a take on what's going on there with that. It's 1812 01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:55.000 been honestly years since I really dove into that information. 1813 01:41:57.079 --> 01:41:57.239 You know. 1814 01:41:57.319 --> 01:41:59.039 One of the things I heard recently as well is 1815 01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:02.960 like the well known photos of the women of that society, 1816 01:42:03.399 --> 01:42:06.439 Maria or Sik and stuff like that, they do look doctored, 1817 01:42:06.600 --> 01:42:09.640 they really do. It's very very soft, sort of lock 1818 01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:12.920 in deep than using photoshop. 1819 01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:16.119 Damn. 1820 01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:21.199 Yeah, while he's frozen, Mario, you froz there for a second. 1821 01:42:21.239 --> 01:42:23.319 But I mean, I miss far that, But I will 1822 01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:25.760 agree with you on that. I can't find a lot 1823 01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:28.760 of credibility to any of those real society pictures. 1824 01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:31.359 But what were we saying, right, right, yeah, exactly. 1825 01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:36.560 Well, one of the details that really interested me years 1826 01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:39.119 ago when I was diving through all this stuff was 1827 01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:42.960 the relationship to al Debaron. And this is a massive 1828 01:42:43.039 --> 01:42:46.000 royal star in Taurus, right, it's the eye of the bull. 1829 01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.279 So in the Taurus constellation you have two stars that 1830 01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:52.359 represent its eyes. You have al Debaran or Aldebaran, and 1831 01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:55.560 then you have Eyeen, which is like Hebrew for I itself, right, 1832 01:42:56.359 --> 01:42:59.520 And Taurus and bull and cow symbolism has been something 1833 01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:02.439 that I've been interested in for a very very long time. Actually, 1834 01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:05.119 it was one of my first deep dive rabbit holes, 1835 01:43:05.319 --> 01:43:09.359 was the cow and the bowl, and so I've always 1836 01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:11.600 been interested in it. And then, of course you can't 1837 01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:14.720 get interested, or you can't dive into Taurus symbolism the 1838 01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:18.720 constellation without getting into the Pleiades as well, right, the 1839 01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:22.720 Seven Sisters it's often called. And so one of the 1840 01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:27.319 things that real society. You know, Lore basically says is 1841 01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:32.159 that they were in contact with their ancestry from El Debaron, right. 1842 01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:35.640 And so to me, I find a lot of symbolism 1843 01:43:36.119 --> 01:43:40.680 connected to Taurus and the Pleiades very intriguing when people 1844 01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:44.239 make reference to either it being an exit out of here, 1845 01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:48.439 a gateway here, or that they're ancestry or that they're 1846 01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:51.840 in touch, you know, with you know, other beings or 1847 01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:53.880 what have you, from that neck of the woods in 1848 01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:54.399 the heavens. 1849 01:43:54.479 --> 01:43:54.640 Right. 1850 01:43:55.520 --> 01:44:00.880 And so my personal take is that this axis between 1851 01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:06.239 Taurus and Scorpio is actually a newer modern axis that 1852 01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:12.000 basically took off during the Solar Age, during heliocentric times. 1853 01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:15.960 And so with Taurus again you have aldeboron massive royal star, 1854 01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.359 and then opposite of Taurus is Scorpio, and you have 1855 01:44:19.479 --> 01:44:22.039 in Terras, which is the heart of the scorpion, right. 1856 01:44:22.720 --> 01:44:24.359 And so between Taurus. 1857 01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:27.479 And Scorpio, it's been referred to as Taurus has been 1858 01:44:27.520 --> 01:44:30.680 referred to as the I believe the silver gates or 1859 01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:33.359 the golden gate, can't remember which ones which, And then 1860 01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:36.039 Scorpio has been referred to as the opposite a golden 1861 01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:36.960 gate or a silver gate. 1862 01:44:37.680 --> 01:44:38.800 Taurus has been referred to. 1863 01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:42.520 As basically the gateway to Hell because it is opposite 1864 01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:47.479 of Scorpio, and its opposite of the galactic center. Right Scorpio, 1865 01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:49.720 when you're looking towards it, you're actually looking towards the 1866 01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:54.479 galactic center. So this axis is really important. And so 1867 01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:58.239 my personal opinion is that actually all of the axis 1868 01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:02.039 polarity signs in this zodiac are also really important. And 1869 01:45:02.119 --> 01:45:04.000 so you can look at the zodiac if you're going 1870 01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:06.880 by twelve signs, you can study the twelve signs. Obviously 1871 01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:09.199 I do encourage that. That's what I do on my 1872 01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:11.960 channel all the time. But it's almost as though there's 1873 01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:15.359 like six pairs of signs, right, So there's six sort 1874 01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:18.439 of axises that across. 1875 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:20.079 The ecliptic. 1876 01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:25.199 And so my opinion is that all of these axis 1877 01:45:25.439 --> 01:45:30.439 polarity pairings actually are all emblematic of the original axis. 1878 01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:36.079 Basically that this vertical orientation during a more golden age, 1879 01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:39.640 Hyperborian age, polar age, whatever you want to say, that 1880 01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:42.640 was the primary axis. It was vertical, and as I 1881 01:45:42.720 --> 01:45:46.119 said earlier, there was a vertical orientation with the divine 1882 01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:51.159 and then during heliocentric solar times everything became flattened and 1883 01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:55.520 everything became more horizontal. So what happened was there needed 1884 01:45:55.560 --> 01:45:59.199 to be a substitute for ursa major in the northern sky, 1885 01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:04.840 and the best substitute was the Pleiades right next to Taurus, 1886 01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:08.680 because it has it doesn't actually have seven main stars, 1887 01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:12.279 it actually has six. And there's lore about the missing 1888 01:46:12.720 --> 01:46:16.760 seventh star, about the missing seventh sister. She goes missing, basically. 1889 01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:17.840 And so the. 1890 01:46:17.880 --> 01:46:21.319 Symbolism associated with the northern sky and the world axis 1891 01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:26.000 literally shifted to Taurus and Scorpio during the solar age basically, 1892 01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:30.039 And so Guanan has written about this. There's other traditional 1893 01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:32.960 perennial authors that have written about this about this shift. 1894 01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:36.279 But I think also all of the polarities, all of 1895 01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:40.600 the six axises, axes, whatever, they all represent this original 1896 01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:41.720 axis basically. 1897 01:46:42.319 --> 01:46:43.920 So I think this is interesting. 1898 01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:47.319 So if you backtrack the symbolism, and I you know, 1899 01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:49.880 symbolic shift is one thing that I didn't even realize 1900 01:46:49.920 --> 01:46:51.000 I would get into, but I'm. 1901 01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:51.439 Interested in it. 1902 01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:55.359 So if you backtrack the symbolism, and we have this 1903 01:46:55.560 --> 01:46:58.600 group who says that they're in touch with their ancestry 1904 01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:02.720 or ets from this place in the heavens, and they look, Ariyan, 1905 01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:05.399 you know, to me, this just echoes back to this 1906 01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:08.760 northern symbolism basically that we've been talking about, and so 1907 01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:11.680 to me, that's more of a clearer sort of picture. Also, 1908 01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:15.079 the northern sky ursa major. If you look at the 1909 01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:18.399 Dendari zodiac, the Egyptian den de arizodiac, which I know 1910 01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:22.199 that's like a later creation or whatever. Ursa major is 1911 01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:25.199 a bull's thigh. It's the thigh of the bull, also 1912 01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:29.479 called the thigh of set. So there's literally northern bull 1913 01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:34.319 symbolism also attached to that portion of the heavens. So 1914 01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:36.239 I just think that there was this great shift from 1915 01:47:36.439 --> 01:47:38.960 what was going on up there, including some bull stuff, 1916 01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:41.399 and then got shifted over to that neck of the woods. 1917 01:47:42.039 --> 01:47:44.319 Yeah, and it's Flenny, it's funny. I'm sorry. 1918 01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:48.039 Even if the real society was just a lot of 1919 01:47:49.279 --> 01:47:51.880 about nothing, a lot to do about nothing, maybe there 1920 01:47:51.960 --> 01:47:54.199 is something there. I don't want to discount it totally, 1921 01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:58.079 but let's just say there's no real society. Some of 1922 01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:01.199 the other the Ata society or in the Two Ley Society. 1923 01:48:01.479 --> 01:48:04.279 Those guys was, like I said, they were in all 1924 01:48:04.319 --> 01:48:06.760 these other orders. What they were trying to do was 1925 01:48:07.319 --> 01:48:12.039 this was like a cult renaissance that's happening in around 1926 01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:14.800 the turn of the century in Germany, and these guys 1927 01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:17.760 are trying to bring back in this area and symbolism 1928 01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:20.920 and bring back in what they believe was an area 1929 01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:24.079 of bloodline. So they're trying to reconnect with it. And 1930 01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:26.359 I think that's what the Nazi Party was born out 1931 01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:29.199 of real society or no real society. 1932 01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:32.720 It's funny, ya I was mentioning play. 1933 01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:35.760 It is because when you look at plays from the 1934 01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:39.159 tainos Uh, they usually looked at it as a time 1935 01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.800 for agriculture needs. That's when they usually when the reigning 1936 01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:46.039 season used to start to begin. But then you have 1937 01:48:46.199 --> 01:48:49.359 in the Popo Vu which you have the four hundred 1938 01:48:49.399 --> 01:48:52.640 boys who are creating the plaidy system. And then if 1939 01:48:52.680 --> 01:48:55.000 you look at the Book of Ena, you have according 1940 01:48:55.039 --> 01:48:59.960 to the Hagadah, the angel Shimazi listed after a Median 1941 01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:02.880 name is ta' is Tahar, and that's basically where they 1942 01:49:02.960 --> 01:49:07.920 get God re warded is Tahar for her by commemorating 1943 01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:11.000 her as the seven star constellation plates. So you have 1944 01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:14.840 the seven star complaites everywhere from and it's usually has 1945 01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:18.920 something to do with agricultural needs. So that that's very 1946 01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:22.880 interesting because once it meets a certain point in the sky, 1947 01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:25.239 that's when the rainy season will happened, and that's when 1948 01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:27.359 they need to start doing agriculture. Where you also got 1949 01:49:27.479 --> 01:49:30.800 to remember the Seven Sisters were also known as the 1950 01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:33.760 four hundred Boys. That's the ones from the Popo Vu 1951 01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:38.359 who created the plate system because a giant basically brought 1952 01:49:38.439 --> 01:49:41.439 down their house and then they became the four hundred Boys. 1953 01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:43.840 So it's interesting y'all was talking about the plate system. 1954 01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:44.560 Very interesting. 1955 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.840 What you said, Tyrone was really interesting to me simply 1956 01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:53.159 because in Taoism, the nine emperor gods are also considered 1957 01:49:53.199 --> 01:49:57.560 to be the sons who compose the pliates. Now, this 1958 01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:00.800 is an ancient ancient like Sean Dai see sort of 1959 01:50:01.319 --> 01:50:05.279 Daoist proto Daoist pria Daoist idea, but it's continued onward 1960 01:50:05.359 --> 01:50:09.560 to this day, and they there's a conflation that has 1961 01:50:09.640 --> 01:50:12.399 happened over the last like two thousand years where sometimes 1962 01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:17.319 they get associated with different constellations, different planets. It's never 1963 01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:19.800 quite the same. But the oldest story is that they 1964 01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:23.399 are the sons of the Emperor, the Jade Emperor usually 1965 01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:28.840 but not always, who then can comprize excuse me, the Pleiades. 1966 01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:31.279 And then also to what Mario was saying, there's a 1967 01:50:31.479 --> 01:50:35.920 really interesting story from Nepal that says that the Matracas 1968 01:50:36.079 --> 01:50:40.319 or the Pleiades sisters who are called mothers, not sisters, 1969 01:50:40.359 --> 01:50:42.239 but that can also they can also be called sisters, 1970 01:50:42.279 --> 01:50:46.720 so it can be either or there's actually eight so 1971 01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:51.079 ashta matraca, so then that means that there's a hidden ninth, 1972 01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:53.760 so that can be understood. But then also goes back 1973 01:50:53.760 --> 01:50:56.239 to what Tyrone said. So the swastika would have been 1974 01:50:56.880 --> 01:51:01.560 that symbol that Lisa said, the swasti to the quarterly 1975 01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:05.640 turn of every year, it would worship a quadrant in 1976 01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:08.520 the form of the goddess riding a lion. Then she 1977 01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:11.840 would divide maybe into like the oldest one that we 1978 01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:14.600 know is called the knavroa tree, so the nine nights. 1979 01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:17.640 So then it becomes like a nine spoke wheel with 1980 01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:20.800 Dirga in the center. And sometimes you can add Shiva 1981 01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:25.359 in to make that hidden eleventh that Mario reference, because 1982 01:51:25.359 --> 01:51:28.119 Shiva really is your mind, it's not it's like the 1983 01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:31.800 person witnessing. You could say the wheel turning. So I 1984 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:33.000 just I thought that was really. 1985 01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:36.560 Interesting yeah, you can even go back to the to 1986 01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:39.079 the Dogone tribe. If you go back to the Dogone tribe, 1987 01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:43.000 they even connect to the seven seven sisters or the 1988 01:51:43.079 --> 01:51:46.079 platy system, and that represented men and fish. 1989 01:51:46.880 --> 01:51:51.000 So this is very Shiva first appeared to Brahma as 1990 01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:56.760 a massive poll that stretched thousands of trillions of miles 1991 01:51:57.520 --> 01:51:58.439 in either direction. 1992 01:51:58.720 --> 01:52:01.640 And Shiva can be am in his own piranhas though. 1993 01:52:01.880 --> 01:52:03.800 That's that's what I was talking about, shocked deep. 1994 01:52:03.640 --> 01:52:07.520 Piranhas, right, But I'm just saying, like, very literally, Shiva 1995 01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:11.720 was a poll at one time to demonstrate how far 1996 01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:15.880 he could reach in either direction. So I mean that's 1997 01:52:16.279 --> 01:52:19.239 that's polar symbolism, up, down, left and right. 1998 01:52:19.359 --> 01:52:19.520 You know. 1999 01:52:21.239 --> 01:52:22.159 Tyrone? You done? 2000 01:52:26.720 --> 01:52:27.520 Yeah? What's that was up? 2001 01:52:27.680 --> 01:52:28.079 You done? 2002 01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:28.720 No? 2003 01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:31.319 Oh yeah, I was done. 2004 01:52:31.359 --> 01:52:32.119 I was just showing some. 2005 01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:35.720 Sources from the Tainos to the to the Popo Vu 2006 01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:38.000 to the Book. 2007 01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:40.399 Of Vena, you know. And I mean you can go 2008 01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:41.279 anywhere with with. 2009 01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:43.640 The seven Sisters and play, because each one of them 2010 01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:47.520 has their own understanding. But it's a certain part or 2011 01:52:47.840 --> 01:52:53.000 time in the life where they only worship that that sunrise. 2012 01:52:52.560 --> 01:52:54.640 Or that that that star, what you want to call it. 2013 01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:57.479 So it's just very interesting because it has to I mean, 2014 01:52:57.560 --> 01:53:00.720 it goes back to the raining system, season and agriculture. 2015 01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:02.800 And what was very interesting what he was talking about 2016 01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:04.399 when he was talking about the cows and bulls and 2017 01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:07.119 stuff like that. A lot of people don't know this, 2018 01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:10.880 but if you live by a farm, most cows or 2019 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:15.479 bulls when they when they excrete, uh, their ship basically 2020 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:19.039 creates some type of a psychedelic mushroom like it's found 2021 01:53:19.079 --> 01:53:23.119 in their psychedelic like certain type of mushroom grows under 2022 01:53:23.159 --> 01:53:24.760 their poop basically, right. 2023 01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:27.960 And some people are known to take that and to 2024 01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:33.239 eat it and have a psychedelic adventure. I guess you 2025 01:53:33.319 --> 01:53:33.720 could say. 2026 01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:33.960 Right. 2027 01:53:34.319 --> 01:53:36.479 And that's why the bulls, the cows and so on 2028 01:53:36.600 --> 01:53:39.680 and so forth in certain countries, they're they're sacred animals 2029 01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:41.880 because they're the closest that we can get to what 2030 01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:44.920 we know as the godhead are outside of our consciousness 2031 01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:48.680 or something like that. So it's very interesting because in America, UH, 2032 01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:55.439 they have to inject these cows with certain types of vaccine, 2033 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:58.560 so they don't create that enzyme to create that type 2034 01:53:58.600 --> 01:54:02.119 of enzyme in the poop which would create that that type. 2035 01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:04.319 Of mushroom where they can go on a psychedelic trip. 2036 01:54:05.720 --> 01:54:08.119 I just want to add a few things here. One 2037 01:54:08.239 --> 01:54:11.960 that reminds me that I have a book by this 2038 01:54:12.079 --> 01:54:15.199 woman named Judy K. King and it's called The Isis Thesis, 2039 01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:21.680 and according to her breakdown, oh boy. 2040 01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:24.279 Oh we've lost them. 2041 01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:34.159 Uh oh, I think he made a good. 2042 01:54:36.239 --> 01:54:38.279 Okay, cool, So Judy K. 2043 01:54:38.439 --> 01:54:40.399 King and the Isis Thesis was saying that at one 2044 01:54:40.439 --> 01:54:43.439 point in time, according to her decoding of the Egyptian hieroglyphs, 2045 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:46.680 that the Egyptians had this understanding of going to the 2046 01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:50.680 Northern Sky upon death, and that they refer to the 2047 01:54:50.760 --> 01:54:53.239 opening at the Northern sky as the horn of a 2048 01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:57.720 great bull as well, right tars more more bull symbolism 2049 01:54:57.840 --> 01:54:58.560 going on up there. 2050 01:54:59.159 --> 01:54:59.439 Also. 2051 01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:01.520 I just want to mentioned too, if people want my 2052 01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:04.520 full take on the Pleiades and this whole polar to 2053 01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:08.039 solar shift and why people associate these things with the 2054 01:55:08.079 --> 01:55:11.800 bleedies in today's world, I have a presentation called the Palladians, 2055 01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:14.720 and so you can watch that and it's my full 2056 01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:17.439 breakdown on that. One of the things I mentioned there 2057 01:55:18.319 --> 01:55:21.760 is that Atlas, the Greek Atlas who held up the 2058 01:55:21.840 --> 01:55:26.079 heavens or in modern sort of context he holds up 2059 01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:29.039 the world, but in old illustrations, he's actually holding up 2060 01:55:29.079 --> 01:55:29.560 the firmament. 2061 01:55:29.640 --> 01:55:31.319 He's holding up the night sky. Basically. 2062 01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:37.119 The seven Sisters are his daughters basically. And so to me, 2063 01:55:37.520 --> 01:55:40.800 what this suggests is that he is a world axis 2064 01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:43.720 symbol and that he's a pillar basically in the middle 2065 01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:46.680 of Earth holding up the vault of heaven. But in 2066 01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:50.560 modern contexts, he's now holding up the world. You know, 2067 01:55:50.800 --> 01:55:53.960 this is post heliocentrism more than likely, is my guests, right, 2068 01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:58.000 people did not have this globular, sort of spherical idea 2069 01:55:58.159 --> 01:55:59.319 of Earth, you know. 2070 01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:05.399 Mario, Mario, the bone at the base of your skull 2071 01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:09.119 is called the Atlas bone, correct, Yeah, because it's holding 2072 01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:13.159 up the entire skull, the entire night sky, and all 2073 01:56:13.279 --> 01:56:17.119 of the memories of the Greeks were put into the 2074 01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:22.000 night sky and the asterisms of these different constellations. So 2075 01:56:22.600 --> 01:56:32.600 you've got a huge asterism, polar memory constellation crossover between 2076 01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:33.439 all this stuff. 2077 01:56:34.640 --> 01:56:36.680 Yep, yeah, yeah, exactly, for sure. 2078 01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:42.279 You've got that head piece of Isis too that always 2079 01:56:42.279 --> 01:56:44.640 struck me as looking like the Taras symbol. 2080 01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:46.840 Mmm. 2081 01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:50.159 Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, definitely related. Absolutely. 2082 01:56:50.239 --> 01:56:51.640 You know, that kind of reminds me a little bit 2083 01:56:51.720 --> 01:56:55.319 of if there's an isis equivalent in the tarot, you 2084 01:56:55.399 --> 01:56:59.239 can make the argument that the High Priestess, you know 2085 01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:01.960 she sometimes all also has kind of like this head 2086 01:57:02.039 --> 01:57:04.680 dress sort of thing. It just reminds me of you know, 2087 01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:09.239 cow horns basically, and she's sitting where always right in 2088 01:57:09.279 --> 01:57:13.119 between two pillars. She's the transcendental central pillar basically. 2089 01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:20.279 What you said about the Seven Sisters, sorry, the seven Sisters. 2090 01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:25.199 It reminds me of the genetic experiment where they have 2091 01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:28.279 determined I don't know if it's been modified since, but 2092 01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:33.720 they've determined that every single human being has come one women. 2093 01:57:34.079 --> 01:57:36.680 It's called the seven Daughters of Eve theory. And so 2094 01:57:36.760 --> 01:57:40.600 when they trace back all mitochondrial DNA, they're all traced 2095 01:57:40.640 --> 01:57:44.000 back to at least one of the seven Daughters of 2096 01:57:44.079 --> 01:57:47.520 Eve quote unquote women that have ever existed. 2097 01:57:48.319 --> 01:57:48.600 Wow. 2098 01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:53.479 Yeah, that's interesting, you know, because there's so much overlapping symbolism. 2099 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:56.359 God Is symbolism with the number seven is nuts. You know, 2100 01:57:57.720 --> 01:58:02.039 Virgin Mary had seven Sorrows of Christ or Mary, and then. 2101 01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:04.720 Also seven sisters in the constellation. 2102 01:58:05.439 --> 01:58:08.439 Yeah, yeah, exactly for sure, there's something else I was 2103 01:58:08.479 --> 01:58:10.359 going to say about that, but yeah, that's fascinating. 2104 01:58:12.479 --> 01:58:15.239 Does that have to do with some sort of there's 2105 01:58:15.319 --> 01:58:20.159 seven women who have different genetics that produce different types 2106 01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:20.680 of people. 2107 01:58:21.279 --> 01:58:24.640 Well, they have at least traced it back to seven 2108 01:58:24.880 --> 01:58:28.079 origins of women because mitochondrial DNA, and I'm sure you 2109 01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:32.239 know mitochondrial DNA is only passed down maternally. So when 2110 01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:34.720 you look at mitochondrial DNA, you are looking at the 2111 01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:37.399 maternal line. And if you can trace it all the 2112 01:58:37.439 --> 01:58:40.359 way back, you can pretty much start to piece people 2113 01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:44.159 together in terms of what maternal line they're coming from 2114 01:58:44.439 --> 01:58:48.319 based on haploid groups. And so when they've tried to 2115 01:58:48.439 --> 01:58:50.560 take it all the way back, they can at least 2116 01:58:50.600 --> 01:58:54.680 pinpoint it down to at least seven different haplogroups. And 2117 01:58:54.720 --> 01:58:56.960 if you're looking at mitochondrial DNA, then you're looking at 2118 01:58:56.960 --> 01:59:01.520 a maternal line, So haplogroups maternal line, right. 2119 01:59:01.800 --> 01:59:05.039 Yeah, Yeah, I was gonna say, Lady Babylon and the 2120 01:59:05.079 --> 01:59:08.800 Babylon Star seven point in star has seven's all throughout it. 2121 01:59:09.199 --> 01:59:10.920 I'm gonna do it at some point. This is probably 2122 01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:13.159 way too premature to announce anything. It doesn't really matter, 2123 01:59:13.520 --> 01:59:16.079 But I'm going to do a presentation about Lady Babylon 2124 01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:18.800 being a Northern goddess. It makes too much sense. It's 2125 01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:22.520 what the deal is in my estimation. Yeah, yeah, so 2126 01:59:22.720 --> 01:59:29.399 Sara is there is with Lady Babylon, I would imagine. 2127 01:59:29.439 --> 01:59:33.159 So I tend to see similarities over differences, so I 2128 01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:35.479 may not be the right person to ask about that 2129 01:59:36.199 --> 01:59:36.840 I believe it or not. 2130 01:59:36.960 --> 01:59:38.399 The reason I've even put this image up. 2131 01:59:38.560 --> 01:59:40.920 Some of the stuff we talked about is actually believe 2132 01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:44.319 it or not in this image, so like when people 2133 01:59:44.399 --> 01:59:47.960 don't know like what an occultist is thinking about when 2134 01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:51.640 they create something in h there's a lot of stuff 2135 01:59:51.680 --> 01:59:51.840 in this. 2136 01:59:52.119 --> 01:59:54.039 The eyeballs in here, you know. 2137 01:59:54.920 --> 01:59:56.479 Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. 2138 01:59:57.640 --> 02:00:00.479 I was also going to mention to someone brought up 2139 02:00:00.840 --> 02:00:06.680 the pleats and fish symbolism and whatever. The oceanic aquatic 2140 02:00:06.760 --> 02:00:09.439 symbolism with the northern sky is completely off the charts 2141 02:00:09.439 --> 02:00:13.039 as well. And one example of that is the stop 2142 02:00:13.119 --> 02:00:15.880 the Rishis or the seven rishis, the seven stages being 2143 02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:19.600 like fishmen or traveling by a fish like as an 2144 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:23.720 arc or a boat to Earth. Right, They're always associated, seemingly, 2145 02:00:24.039 --> 02:00:26.520 you know, with with fish symbolism, in one way, shape 2146 02:00:26.600 --> 02:00:29.000 or form. So the idea of like seven gods coming 2147 02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:31.119 from the northern sky is kind of a classic thing. 2148 02:00:32.920 --> 02:00:34.960 Even in the voyinage, you know. 2149 02:00:35.039 --> 02:00:36.920 I thought it was interesting how we talked about the 2150 02:00:37.039 --> 02:00:40.000 seven sisters had always had seven women, and it was 2151 02:00:40.279 --> 02:00:42.479 agriculture in a sense. It had all these plants and 2152 02:00:42.520 --> 02:00:44.840 different shin in it, and there was always they were 2153 02:00:44.840 --> 02:00:47.119 always green like the women, which made me think of 2154 02:00:47.239 --> 02:00:49.760 like net sock, and you know, you could have a 2155 02:00:49.840 --> 02:00:53.479 female I mean, yeah, net sock, so. 2156 02:00:53.760 --> 02:00:54.479 Which usual. 2157 02:00:56.199 --> 02:00:59.359 Totally totally yeah, yeah, another thing I did. 2158 02:00:59.319 --> 02:01:03.560 Want to try it do if possible. I can't forget 2159 02:01:03.600 --> 02:01:05.880 about it. I wanted to go over the hexagram ritual, 2160 02:01:05.960 --> 02:01:07.399 but my voice is too fucked up. 2161 02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:12.279 If you want, I can you want to talk about Midnight? 2162 02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:16.880 Oh no, even the ritual it's called the hexagram, so 2163 02:01:16.960 --> 02:01:20.520 obviously you get a hexagram. There's the LVX formula. At 2164 02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:24.960 one point you make the swastika. That ritual existed before 2165 02:01:25.039 --> 02:01:29.359 World War two, so in a ritual that was used 2166 02:01:29.359 --> 02:01:33.960 by a lot of magicians already incorporated the hexagram. Because 2167 02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:36.079 you're you're drawing that as well as you're doing it, 2168 02:01:36.680 --> 02:01:38.960 and you're throwing up the fucking swastika in it as well. 2169 02:01:39.359 --> 02:01:40.000 It's even said. 2170 02:01:40.039 --> 02:01:42.640 And then what's interesting is that if you don't want 2171 02:01:42.640 --> 02:01:44.439 to use the swastika, you can put you one harm 2172 02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:47.039 up and one that way, and you know, like almost 2173 02:01:47.079 --> 02:01:48.600 making like now I'm sorting to wonder is that like 2174 02:01:48.680 --> 02:01:50.800 some sort of access as well or some of a 2175 02:01:51.079 --> 02:01:55.000 weird thing like it's just to me, you know, instead 2176 02:01:55.000 --> 02:01:57.000 of making the swastika if that has to do with 2177 02:01:57.920 --> 02:01:58.920 you know, a polar. 2178 02:01:58.960 --> 02:01:59.840 And shit, I don't know. 2179 02:02:00.199 --> 02:02:03.640 Oh yeah, I mean so when Crowley released his thought deck, 2180 02:02:04.520 --> 02:02:09.279 he included three magician cards and the well known Magician card. 2181 02:02:09.720 --> 02:02:11.640 There's a pole right behind the magician. 2182 02:02:11.680 --> 02:02:14.439 It's almost like he's ascending the pole in one way, right, 2183 02:02:14.479 --> 02:02:18.880 He's like floating upwards. But one of the alternative versions 2184 02:02:19.359 --> 02:02:22.520 is a figure the magician in that same position, and 2185 02:02:22.600 --> 02:02:25.680 I'm assuming it's the same swasika position, and he's nude, 2186 02:02:25.720 --> 02:02:29.239 so his falluc is showing basically, and so so he's 2187 02:02:29.319 --> 02:02:35.039 associating that with the Magician card like absolutely, which makes 2188 02:02:35.039 --> 02:02:37.640 sense because again it's it's a sign of the poll, 2189 02:02:37.920 --> 02:02:38.880 it's a symbol of the pole. 2190 02:02:40.000 --> 02:02:43.800 So here's the mitochondria that mass scientist was talking about 2191 02:02:43.840 --> 02:02:50.279 the halfa glus and the seven Daughters. You got Ursula, Zina, Helena, Canapera, 2192 02:02:50.439 --> 02:02:56.760 Swedish Tara or Kentepera Tara, I'm sorry, Velda, Tara, Katrine 2193 02:02:56.800 --> 02:03:00.680 and Jasmine, and then you got halflo group you hv 2194 02:03:01.760 --> 02:03:04.439 t kJ and it gives you a. 2195 02:03:04.439 --> 02:03:06.960 Breakdown on it. And it was a book that was 2196 02:03:07.039 --> 02:03:10.920 written by Brian Sykes that talks the daughters of the 2197 02:03:11.119 --> 02:03:13.039 gene yep. 2198 02:03:13.159 --> 02:03:16.560 So now I don't know if it's been updated since, 2199 02:03:16.680 --> 02:03:19.520 but the last time I remember, I read this book 2200 02:03:20.039 --> 02:03:23.800 and I remember and it's been controversial that, you know, 2201 02:03:23.880 --> 02:03:26.640 people have said, no, the way his methodology wasn't correct 2202 02:03:26.760 --> 02:03:29.319 or whatever, but it's it's held up a little bit 2203 02:03:29.640 --> 02:03:31.960 more than what people said that it did. 2204 02:03:32.279 --> 02:03:37.680 But to me, yeah, I actually did a podcast discussion 2205 02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:40.359 with a geneticist and I talk a lot about HAPLO 2206 02:03:40.479 --> 02:03:43.920 group E one B one B with him and it's 2207 02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:48.720 just very interesting because you know, they take haplo groups 2208 02:03:48.760 --> 02:03:52.479 from what they consider the closest Homo sapien that we 2209 02:03:52.600 --> 02:03:55.399 are related to. But the thing is is that I, 2210 02:03:55.600 --> 02:04:00.479 even as a Homo sapien, our changes have been drastic three. 2211 02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:02.199 Hundred thousand years to where we are now. 2212 02:04:02.279 --> 02:04:04.600 So what do you really consider on homo safety and 2213 02:04:04.640 --> 02:04:07.560 sapient and where do you consider that you know, the 2214 02:04:07.680 --> 02:04:10.159 first half of group to come from, because we know 2215 02:04:10.279 --> 02:04:13.000 that there's been like what they quote unquote say human 2216 02:04:13.159 --> 02:04:16.560 light species from around the world. So I mean, you 2217 02:04:16.640 --> 02:04:17.800 got the seven continents. 2218 02:04:17.920 --> 02:04:18.960 I mean, let's just go with that. 2219 02:04:20.600 --> 02:04:23.680 Also, I just want to say the number seven correspondence 2220 02:04:23.720 --> 02:04:25.640 with the North is so strong that if you look 2221 02:04:25.680 --> 02:04:29.199 at older Latin maps, the north is labeled as sept 2222 02:04:29.279 --> 02:04:35.119 in trio right, sept as in like septinary septenary number seven, right, 2223 02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:38.560 And so even there's all sorts of lore and things 2224 02:04:38.600 --> 02:04:41.319 to talk about with set also basically being related to 2225 02:04:41.399 --> 02:04:44.680 sept pretty much and September actually being a reference to 2226 02:04:44.760 --> 02:04:48.840 the number seven, and so it's so intrinsically tied that 2227 02:04:48.880 --> 02:04:51.000 you'll see literally a reference to the number seven it 2228 02:04:51.119 --> 02:04:53.039 maps for the northern portion of Earth. 2229 02:04:54.199 --> 02:04:56.880 So it seems to me like that the seven dollars 2230 02:04:57.119 --> 02:05:00.680 of Eve doesn't really work with their well, with the 2231 02:05:00.800 --> 02:05:06.159 out of Africa thing, and you know, just that's just 2232 02:05:06.279 --> 02:05:08.920 my perspective upon seeing this today. But I saw that 2233 02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:11.840 they had something of the Swedish groups meant mentioned in 2234 02:05:11.920 --> 02:05:14.239 there as well. And I'll just throw this in real quick, 2235 02:05:14.319 --> 02:05:19.840 like that Swedish Norway dynasty possibly started by Odin if 2236 02:05:19.880 --> 02:05:22.720 we're to believe thor Heyerda's research, they come out of 2237 02:05:22.840 --> 02:05:25.960 the caucacious mountains, as did some of the Hindu groups 2238 02:05:26.439 --> 02:05:30.159 that went to India, like the Brahmin class. They came 2239 02:05:30.399 --> 02:05:33.680 from a cacustious mountains, if I can say that correctly. 2240 02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:36.720 And that's known because of DNA tests, And I think 2241 02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:40.079 I mentioned this earlier by missing it again because that 2242 02:05:40.239 --> 02:05:43.479 means like you got two groups there that seemingly look 2243 02:05:43.720 --> 02:05:48.239 to be very unrelated about Swedish people and people in India. 2244 02:05:48.439 --> 02:05:50.880 They don't, but if you go back far enough, it's 2245 02:05:50.960 --> 02:05:54.960 all seemingly one group that they came out of. And 2246 02:05:55.600 --> 02:05:59.079 to touch on Lisa's point, maybe they were using that 2247 02:05:59.239 --> 02:06:05.319 maternal blowoodline as well as And part of the bloodline 2248 02:06:05.600 --> 02:06:08.119 has to do with carrying off along the knowledge of 2249 02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:11.840 your ancestors and the symbols of your ancestors like the swastika. 2250 02:06:13.319 --> 02:06:15.039 Yeah, And I think one of the things that we 2251 02:06:15.199 --> 02:06:17.680 have to bear in mind is that the sun wasn't 2252 02:06:18.079 --> 02:06:21.319 shining as hot as it did today as it did 2253 02:06:21.479 --> 02:06:25.920 back then. The sun has gone through different seasons, whether 2254 02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:29.319 it's every eleven years or whether it's every one hundred 2255 02:06:29.399 --> 02:06:34.000 thousand years. So what we look at in terms of 2256 02:06:34.159 --> 02:06:38.359 melanistic groups around the world may not have been like that, 2257 02:06:38.600 --> 02:06:41.640 or they may have been like that depending on the 2258 02:06:41.760 --> 02:06:44.439 intensity of the sun. Or if we believe that the 2259 02:06:44.560 --> 02:06:47.439 poles have shifted in that the North Pole is not 2260 02:06:47.560 --> 02:06:49.760 where the North Pole is today, but it was somewhere 2261 02:06:49.800 --> 02:06:52.960 around Jonson. I mean, we're talking about a whole different 2262 02:06:53.079 --> 02:06:56.439 shift of you know people, you know, land masses and 2263 02:06:56.560 --> 02:06:58.840 what have you. So I don't think, you know, to 2264 02:06:59.239 --> 02:07:02.399 not hold on into exactly the map that we see 2265 02:07:02.479 --> 02:07:05.800 today as being the ultimate, you know, end all be all. 2266 02:07:06.520 --> 02:07:08.359 I think that's important to keep in mind. 2267 02:07:08.840 --> 02:07:12.479 The map is not the terrain as well. Right, every 2268 02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:14.680 model is just like it's an example of something. It 2269 02:07:14.760 --> 02:07:16.239 may give you a good idea about something, but it's 2270 02:07:16.279 --> 02:07:18.279 not the actual thing itself. So no matter what map 2271 02:07:18.319 --> 02:07:20.239 you're talking about or whatever model you're talking about. 2272 02:07:21.119 --> 02:07:27.000 So I find it interesting there's the Denisovan subspecies of 2273 02:07:27.239 --> 02:07:30.199 humans too, and I suppose they're not in that seven, 2274 02:07:31.199 --> 02:07:35.520 but the Tibetans happen to have like the most trace 2275 02:07:35.880 --> 02:07:42.800 remnants of Denisovan beings in them, and they also have 2276 02:07:42.960 --> 02:07:45.720 that tradition. I want to excuse me prediction I wanted 2277 02:07:45.760 --> 02:07:49.800 to mention before of when the wheel comes to Tibet, 2278 02:07:50.840 --> 02:07:55.800 it'll be the end of their current current phase of culture. 2279 02:07:56.239 --> 02:07:58.600 So yeah, the Denisovan strand is interesting. I wonder at 2280 02:07:58.640 --> 02:07:59.760 least if you know about that. 2281 02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:04.239 So they just found recently there's a Didysovan discovery that 2282 02:08:04.399 --> 02:08:07.680 was just made out of Siberia. It's a forty thousand 2283 02:08:07.800 --> 02:08:12.840 year old bracelet was found, very well crafted and circular 2284 02:08:13.039 --> 02:08:16.399 to go along with that what you're saying. So, and 2285 02:08:16.479 --> 02:08:18.840 if you look up denis Ovan's I mean they kind 2286 02:08:18.880 --> 02:08:22.600 of look they're kind of look they look like cave people, 2287 02:08:22.680 --> 02:08:25.920 like some of the drawings I've seen. They wouldn't, you know, 2288 02:08:26.079 --> 02:08:27.760 cave people don't make bracelets like this. 2289 02:08:28.399 --> 02:08:34.760 So yeah, I think also isn't I mean, I don't like, 2290 02:08:34.880 --> 02:08:37.520 one hundred percent die on the hill of seven dollars 2291 02:08:37.560 --> 02:08:37.840 of Eve. 2292 02:08:38.000 --> 02:08:38.840 It's just a theory. 2293 02:08:39.079 --> 02:08:42.680 It's just you know, what the genetic experiment showed at 2294 02:08:42.760 --> 02:08:45.640 the time when it was when the theory was published. 2295 02:08:46.199 --> 02:08:48.039 But the other thing is I think we have to 2296 02:08:48.079 --> 02:08:51.720 look at you you look at bears, you know, polar bears, 2297 02:08:51.800 --> 02:08:54.920 black bearris, you know whatever. The polar bear is going 2298 02:08:54.960 --> 02:08:57.279 to be extremely different than the black bear down in Texas. 2299 02:08:57.760 --> 02:09:02.399 But they are ursa, you know, of genus, and I 2300 02:09:02.560 --> 02:09:05.840 think that they are adapted to their environment. They have 2301 02:09:06.000 --> 02:09:08.399 to be otherwise they're not going to survive. And so 2302 02:09:08.520 --> 02:09:11.119 when you're looking at the peoples of Siberia, they would 2303 02:09:11.239 --> 02:09:14.359 have to be larger, they would have to behave esque 2304 02:09:14.800 --> 02:09:17.920 because in order to you know, increase in surface area 2305 02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:22.239 increases survivability versus you know, in Central America, you know, 2306 02:09:22.840 --> 02:09:27.399 I'll say it native, indigenous, or shorter, you know whatever, 2307 02:09:28.560 --> 02:09:32.319 and smaller and more adaptable to that type of environment. 2308 02:09:32.840 --> 02:09:35.720 So and like what Tyroone was saying, I mean, there 2309 02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:40.279 are many what's it called. It's it's not just Homo sapien. 2310 02:09:40.359 --> 02:09:43.319 There's been Homo erectus, Homo habilis, Homo, I mean, it 2311 02:09:43.479 --> 02:09:45.199 just the list goes on and on and on, and 2312 02:09:45.279 --> 02:09:49.000 I think this is where you see the mess, the 2313 02:09:49.119 --> 02:09:53.640 mixing of the different genus species to ultimately get where 2314 02:09:53.680 --> 02:09:58.199 we are today. So yeah, I would agree the Denisovians 2315 02:09:58.239 --> 02:10:01.039 do not look anything like they people from Central America 2316 02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:03.479 or the toll Techs, you know what. You know, they 2317 02:10:03.520 --> 02:10:05.600 were saying that the toll TECs have probably the most 2318 02:10:05.640 --> 02:10:08.640 happler groups of old people that they've ever surveyed. 2319 02:10:09.279 --> 02:10:13.760 So yeah, this is reminding me just one way of 2320 02:10:13.800 --> 02:10:20.760 looking at things symbolically. Some polar i guess advocates, enthusiasts, whatever, 2321 02:10:21.720 --> 02:10:25.439 I have mentioned this idea that the world tree in 2322 02:10:25.520 --> 02:10:28.680 the polar Age had seven branches, but in the Solar 2323 02:10:28.760 --> 02:10:30.880 Age it has twelve, which I think is kind of 2324 02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:33.640 interesting and symbolically at least relevant. 2325 02:10:36.239 --> 02:10:40.680 Well, weren't you saying that there were seven constellations closer 2326 02:10:40.760 --> 02:10:43.439 to the pole back in the polar Age. 2327 02:10:44.439 --> 02:10:48.720 Yeah, I've heard several ways of it being put. I've 2328 02:10:48.800 --> 02:10:53.840 heard that there's seven seven stationed zodiac close to the 2329 02:10:53.920 --> 02:10:58.359 pole star, also eight constellations around the pole star, and 2330 02:10:58.479 --> 02:11:00.319 the example I usually bring up this is probably what 2331 02:11:00.359 --> 02:11:03.159 you're thinking of, But in one of my resources, the 2332 02:11:03.239 --> 02:11:06.319 guy was making the claim that there were eight constellations 2333 02:11:06.359 --> 02:11:09.439 around the pole star in the polar Age, and this 2334 02:11:09.640 --> 02:11:12.520 was in China, and that each constellation was emblematic of 2335 02:11:12.600 --> 02:11:15.119 one of the trigrams of the eachain there's eight trigrams, 2336 02:11:15.159 --> 02:11:19.239 sixty four hexagrams. And then when people became more solar 2337 02:11:19.479 --> 02:11:24.680 over time for whatever reason, that those eight constellations shifted 2338 02:11:24.720 --> 02:11:26.520 to the path of the sun. And then they added 2339 02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:29.319 four more constellations, making twelve constellations. 2340 02:11:31.439 --> 02:11:35.039 Is that to you get it? Grab it? 2341 02:11:36.039 --> 02:11:36.600 That was for you. 2342 02:11:38.239 --> 02:11:39.520 What I don't know. 2343 02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:45.439 I thought you were the lord of the trigram. 2344 02:11:46.000 --> 02:11:46.359 I don't know. 2345 02:11:49.359 --> 02:11:51.560 Oh well, I don't know. It's too much about it. 2346 02:11:51.640 --> 02:11:55.479 But it is based on it's the eight multiplied by 2347 02:11:55.760 --> 02:12:01.279 putting two different trigrams together, so that results in the 2348 02:12:01.359 --> 02:12:07.000 sixty four potentials. So I mean it's it's and it 2349 02:12:07.960 --> 02:12:11.239 starts in the Dallas theory. It really goes from what 2350 02:12:11.720 --> 02:12:15.640 is quite simple when you explain it verbally and uh 2351 02:12:16.840 --> 02:12:20.479 mathematically if you will. But everything starts with the wuji 2352 02:12:20.840 --> 02:12:25.760 or the nothing, and it transforms from these two. Uh 2353 02:12:26.640 --> 02:12:31.359 you could look at them as polar forces, and that 2354 02:12:32.159 --> 02:12:35.520 that that being the yin and yang, and that expands 2355 02:12:35.640 --> 02:12:41.199 into four forces, the major and minor yin and yang forces. 2356 02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:47.800 And as time went on, the trigrams were developed, and that's. 2357 02:12:49.840 --> 02:12:50.319 Considered. 2358 02:12:50.640 --> 02:12:55.560 It goes around the taichi, or rather what we call 2359 02:12:55.640 --> 02:12:59.640 the yin yang symbol is the taichi, which means the 2360 02:12:59.720 --> 02:13:04.800 grand and ultimate polarity, which is interesting to this whole phenomenon. 2361 02:13:05.720 --> 02:13:09.359 And then they was that resulted with the with the 2362 02:13:09.479 --> 02:13:16.800 eight trigrams, with the eaching, it puts two trigrams together, 2363 02:13:17.119 --> 02:13:21.640 resulting in the six lines if you will, and the 2364 02:13:21.760 --> 02:13:26.199 sixty four potentials. U Jin said something earlier that I 2365 02:13:26.279 --> 02:13:31.359 thought was really interesting, the combining of these two forces 2366 02:13:32.039 --> 02:13:38.119 in an axial and cyclical combination. I don't know in 2367 02:13:38.279 --> 02:13:41.359 those symbols that you shared, it might have been in there, 2368 02:13:41.439 --> 02:13:45.640 but the quartered circle comes to mind as being a 2369 02:13:45.760 --> 02:13:50.159 really powerful kind of the combination of the axical and 2370 02:13:50.359 --> 02:13:56.640 and cyclical. So yeah, the Bagua system with that that 2371 02:13:56.880 --> 02:14:03.840 is uh, the the set of the set of hexagrams 2372 02:14:03.880 --> 02:14:08.199 and trigrams. It's really all about the eaching, which is 2373 02:14:08.279 --> 02:14:14.399 a great reading to explore esoteric symbolism, primal symbolism really. 2374 02:14:15.760 --> 02:14:18.119 Right, It just we just have to mention the fact too. 2375 02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:20.239 Whep okay, I think I cut out. 2376 02:14:20.239 --> 02:14:23.680 I'm probably back, but you know, just symbols that rotate 2377 02:14:23.840 --> 02:14:28.159 the wheel, the classic yin yang right symbol, which my 2378 02:14:28.279 --> 02:14:31.279 understanding too is I think that the primordial way the 2379 02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:35.000 ancient traditional way is counterclockwise once again, which is interesting. 2380 02:14:36.000 --> 02:14:38.920 And then also the cancer glyph also looks like it's 2381 02:14:39.000 --> 02:14:43.119 going counterclockwise, not clockwise. And so it's all the spin 2382 02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:48.199 of heaven in my opinion, right, the spin of life 2383 02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:49.479 of all things. 2384 02:14:50.239 --> 02:14:54.239 The dice spin dradals two Yep, there you. 2385 02:14:54.239 --> 02:14:58.039 Go, which I've heard actually started off as a German thing, 2386 02:14:59.479 --> 02:15:01.640 that drade were more of a German thing, and then 2387 02:15:02.039 --> 02:15:05.520 German Jews adopted it. That's my understanding of things. You know, 2388 02:15:05.600 --> 02:15:07.720 what have you guys ever looked into dradal symbolism, by 2389 02:15:07.720 --> 02:15:12.439 the way, I'm not I don't know if this is 2390 02:15:12.680 --> 02:15:15.239 I mean again, if they adopted it or kind of 2391 02:15:16.159 --> 02:15:19.119 what is it, took it for themselves or whatever cultural 2392 02:15:19.159 --> 02:15:20.239 appropriation whatever. 2393 02:15:21.520 --> 02:15:23.800 I heard one rabbi breaking it down. I think this 2394 02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:28.520 is so telling that the way he broke it down. 2395 02:15:28.560 --> 02:15:31.399 The esoteric symbolism of the dradal is that each side 2396 02:15:31.399 --> 02:15:34.159 of the Draidl has a different Hebrew letter. Each side 2397 02:15:34.199 --> 02:15:37.640 of the Dradl represents one of Israel's enemies, and that 2398 02:15:37.840 --> 02:15:41.279 they constantly are on guard because they're completely they're always 2399 02:15:41.279 --> 02:15:43.520 surrounded by people that want to kill them pretty much, 2400 02:15:44.000 --> 02:15:45.920 and that they consider themselves to be the center of 2401 02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:48.600 the earth, and so the dradal spins just like a 2402 02:15:48.720 --> 02:15:51.359 top right, and so it is an axial symbol. But 2403 02:15:51.439 --> 02:15:53.880 the way they perceived it, at least according to this rabbi, 2404 02:15:54.399 --> 02:15:57.439 is that it's all of their enemies, constant enemies surrounding 2405 02:15:57.479 --> 02:15:58.119 them pretty much. 2406 02:15:58.279 --> 02:16:07.760 So fuck who jo who even wants to like live 2407 02:16:07.840 --> 02:16:08.399 thinking like that? 2408 02:16:08.720 --> 02:16:08.960 Fuck? 2409 02:16:09.600 --> 02:16:13.640 So I had I had my favorite Nazi symbolism pulled 2410 02:16:13.720 --> 02:16:22.239 up here. So my guy Gods von berd Lichingen, and 2411 02:16:22.399 --> 02:16:23.119 let me pull him up. 2412 02:16:23.239 --> 02:16:25.039 We gotta make this quick, as Viros got a bounce. 2413 02:16:25.279 --> 02:16:31.720 Sorry, yeah, yeah, So Gots lived in the fifteen hundreds 2414 02:16:31.960 --> 02:16:36.120 and he got his arm blown off by a cannon ball, 2415 02:16:36.440 --> 02:16:41.879 and he was a mercenary soldier who fashioned for himself 2416 02:16:42.079 --> 02:16:45.680 a fully articulated metal arm, and so they called him 2417 02:16:46.559 --> 02:16:50.360 Gods of the metal Arm. And he he is known 2418 02:16:50.479 --> 02:16:54.079 for the Swabian salute, which is licked me in my. 2419 02:16:54.280 --> 02:16:59.719 Asshole, And so they told that actually a whole symphony 2420 02:17:00.319 --> 02:17:05.479 for the Swabian salute, which was him shaking his mental 2421 02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:07.520 arm at this lord who was trying to. 2422 02:17:07.559 --> 02:17:11.879 Invade his castle. So the Nazis decided that this guy 2423 02:17:12.639 --> 02:17:18.639 was their guy. So they created a whole battalion, the 2424 02:17:18.799 --> 02:17:28.319 seventeenth Battalion, seventeenth SS Grenadier Battalion. So these guys were 2425 02:17:28.639 --> 02:17:33.719 representing God's vonn Reerlichingen in the Nazi Wars. But what's 2426 02:17:33.799 --> 02:17:41.000 really interesting is the connection to this completely different Japanese anime. Right, 2427 02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:43.120 So there was a. 2428 02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:45.879 Oh, elis. 2429 02:17:49.079 --> 02:17:51.000 See, there we go. 2430 02:17:51.440 --> 02:17:54.559 So have you ever heard of the book called or 2431 02:17:54.719 --> 02:17:59.319 the anime called Berserk. It's this. It's about this dude 2432 02:17:59.440 --> 02:18:04.079 who's got a metal arm who lives in this sort 2433 02:18:04.159 --> 02:18:12.479 of I guess medieval age, right, and so his name 2434 02:18:12.600 --> 02:18:18.600 is Gots and he's talking about you know, basically, let 2435 02:18:18.639 --> 02:18:22.120 me take this off the stage. There we go. So 2436 02:18:23.799 --> 02:18:28.559 somehow this fully articulated metal arm guy who wields a 2437 02:18:28.680 --> 02:18:31.520 sword because that's that's what he built his arm for, 2438 02:18:31.840 --> 02:18:35.959 so he can hold a sword at it. Strangely enough, 2439 02:18:36.360 --> 02:18:43.719 but Guts from the book Berserk is exactly like this 2440 02:18:44.239 --> 02:18:47.559 German character, and they're separated by hundreds of years, and 2441 02:18:48.200 --> 02:18:53.040 there's actually no connection between the guy who wrote Berserk 2442 02:18:53.360 --> 02:18:58.079 and God's van bur Lichingen. So it's strange that this 2443 02:18:58.879 --> 02:19:04.159 same sort of energy reverberates over all these distant miles 2444 02:19:04.239 --> 02:19:09.559 and years with seemingly no connection. I just thought that 2445 02:19:09.680 --> 02:19:10.159 was interesting. 2446 02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:14.079 I got somebody showing up with fake arms. You gotta 2447 02:19:14.120 --> 02:19:19.680 watch out, I mean, but yeah, I can see that 2448 02:19:19.760 --> 02:19:20.760 happening now with these though. 2449 02:19:22.239 --> 02:19:25.200 That guy was a folk hero. He constructed a metal 2450 02:19:25.319 --> 02:19:28.399 arm for himself. I mean, there's so much imagery in there. 2451 02:19:28.440 --> 02:19:31.200 You got evil dead. The guy saws off his arm 2452 02:19:31.239 --> 02:19:32.799 and then builds himself into one. 2453 02:19:35.239 --> 02:19:41.399 He puts enough chains on the end of it, right, Ash, 2454 02:19:42.000 --> 02:19:46.360 that's great. I think we're gonna wrap it up. I 2455 02:19:46.399 --> 02:19:48.120 don't know if Mario is still hearing that. Maybe he 2456 02:19:48.399 --> 02:19:52.200 leave there he is, Mario. Uh, please let everybody know 2457 02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:53.879 where they can find all your amazing. 2458 02:19:53.639 --> 02:19:54.040 Work, sir. 2459 02:19:55.000 --> 02:19:57.879 Yeah, of course, Symbolic Studies dot Calm. If people are 2460 02:19:57.879 --> 02:20:02.639 interested in tarror readings or study sessions, private lessons, things 2461 02:20:02.719 --> 02:20:03.799 like that, they can hit me up. 2462 02:20:04.680 --> 02:20:06.319 Definitely check out my Instagram. 2463 02:20:07.479 --> 02:20:09.799 I think that's one of my best platforms just to 2464 02:20:09.879 --> 02:20:11.360 get my stuff because I post a lot of short 2465 02:20:11.440 --> 02:20:13.920 videos and you know all of that. 2466 02:20:14.159 --> 02:20:15.600 So anyways, thanks for having me, guys. 2467 02:20:15.719 --> 02:20:19.600 I honestly I really respect this group and I always 2468 02:20:19.680 --> 02:20:22.920 learned something new, and you guys just always bring it. 2469 02:20:23.040 --> 02:20:23.879 So this was a good time. 2470 02:20:23.920 --> 02:20:24.840 Thanks much, appreciate you. 2471 02:20:25.319 --> 02:20:27.639 Yeah, so we got to do another planet again eventually. Oh, 2472 02:20:27.680 --> 02:20:29.920 I don't know which one we're up to next. Yes, sure, 2473 02:20:29.920 --> 02:20:32.440 we'll definitely continue to work with each other. Thank you 2474 02:20:32.559 --> 02:20:33.239 very much, Marie. 2475 02:20:33.319 --> 02:20:36.719 It's always always an awesome show, always a good presentation. 2476 02:20:37.959 --> 02:20:40.239 Everybody else their links are in the bottom. Thank you 2477 02:20:40.399 --> 02:20:43.079 very much for joining the show. That's what's up everybody 2478 02:20:43.120 --> 02:20:45.600 in the chat. Thank you, and until the next one, 2479 02:20:45.760 --> 02:20:47.479 everybody be well later. 2480 02:20:48.280 --> 02:20:53.760 All right, guys, close your words. Welcome to the darkness, 2481 02:20:56.200 --> 02:20:58.000 find the blazing story. 2482 02:21:00.079 --> 02:21:00.399 The show. 2483 02:21:02.479 --> 02:21:09.239 They be called the Eclipse. I don't feel that the 2484 02:21:09.319 --> 02:21:10.399 show will begin. 2485 02:21:13.200 --> 02:21:14.079 And gues. 2486 02:21:15.840 --> 02:21:17.040 You the ship 2487 02:21:37.280 --> 02:21:37.319 M