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Speaker 4: You're listening to Paranormal Portal on Revolver podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Oh I've lost a control? Is all that enough?

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Speaker 2: She saw?

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Speaker 5: She saw?

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Paranormal Portal podcast. I'm

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your host Brent Thomas, and I'm absolutely thrilled you're here.

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Thanks for being here and checking out the show. Always

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a big thank you to Revolver for making our podcasting

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possible and spreading us all over the face of the

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podcast verse. And I'm not alone. I got my good

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friend and co host here with me tonight, mister Don.

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Speaker 5: Longbeard, that's folks, it is.

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Speaker 4: And tonight we want to talk to you about the

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dog Man. The dog Man, oh you know, so so Bigfoot,

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Don is of course a pretty incredibly powerful, huge animal being, cryptid, hominid,

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whatever you want to describe it as. It's this this

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really ominous presence, and they've been witnessed all over the

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face of the earth pretty much with the exception and

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then the in the US. They've been cited everywhere except

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for Hawaii. There's no there's no claims of Bigfoot in Hawaii. Now,

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if Bigfoot had a little smaller but really crabby, ferocious cousin,

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that would be the dog Man.

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Speaker 5: It got a mendula, that's got whatever the hell I

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because because it's got bad teeth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's got ferocious teeth, I mean, you know,

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and that's a that's a good point, and we'll certainly

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get to the the anatomy of it in a bit.

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But so, ladies and gentlemen, everybody, if you're familiar with

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bigfoot nowadays, you're familiar with the dog man because you know,

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these kind of things really go hand in hand, and

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there's lots of great shows that have done an amazing

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job showcasing the dog man and showcasing encounters with the

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dog men, and that's never going to be what we're

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about here on the portal. We're not about trying to

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duplicate what other people are doing. We just love to

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have discussions about these different things and talk about them

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because you know, it's it's it's one thing to maybe

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know that something is out there, at least even inkling

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of it, but there's so much more to this phenomena

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that just seems to to just defy explanation. So the

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dog man, ladies and gentlemen, is this six to eight

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foot Sometimes you hear nine foot reports out there, but

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it's it's a canid cryptid, and then by kenid that

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means dog like or like a canine like, and oftentimes

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they're reported as being incredibly tall, really long arms with

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claws at the end, which is not a big foot

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trade at all. So people are witnessing these almost talons

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at the end of their fingers, and they do have hands,

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but they can they can operate either quadrupedally or bipedally.

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looks like a wolf or a German shepherd kind of visage,

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and they have what appears to be like the upper

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body similar of a human being down to the waist

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and in the thighs, but that's kind of where the

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similarity stop, because they do have the backward legs, yes,

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wolf for dog or anything because they're so distinct. But

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reports as well, but the Michigan dog Man, of course,

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them not being you know, aggressive, you know right, And

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like you said, the meaner cousins, you know, right, And

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of force or power in order to get people out

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of whatever area they're in. They apparently don't have a

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whole lot of time for people. So like, there aren't

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Speaker 4: It's more like I saw a dog man and I

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I mean, these are these are just incredibly intense encounters.

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is this when I die? Because this is such a large,

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menacing being and has intelligence. The physical display of strength

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you know, you can't run it. You can't. There's nothing

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we physically are capable of. If it weren't for the

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a human being could really mount any kind of resistance

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just due to the fact that they are so far

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off the charts. Fast, strong, cunning, quick, and you know,

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you think about it, ladies and gentlemen, we are not

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with sidewalks and paths and roads that are paved. And

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it to our comfort. So the places where we have

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cities and towns and communities are no longer even resembling

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what they once were prior to the habitation of people. However,

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these beings live in those environments. They live and survive

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and thrive in those situations, you know, and they know

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when something's not right. They know when people are around,

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long before people are even aware that something just doesn't

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even feel right. I mean, they knew, you know. I

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mean they know when people are just maybe even thinking

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of coming. It's like, wait, my dog man sense is tingling.

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they are is they are They apparently resemble the werewolves

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in the Underworld series is what I've heard most commonly

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referred to when people that have witnessed these things come

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forward to discuss it. That's what they liken it too,

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and that to me is absolutely terrifying. You've seen those

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movies right down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely likings yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, without the whole man transform.

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Speaker 4: So they're like they're like ferocious and big all the time. Now,

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Speaker 5: I think we're sorely lacking, you know. I mean it's

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one thing to you know, go and lift weights and

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Speaker 5: But I mean, you know, we're as individuals, we're fine,

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you know, but we fit into our paradigm. Are are

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our earth paradigm as we've cut it out, as you

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so aptly put, you know, we've shaped it around our needs.

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mean we swim slowly. A minno could pass you know,

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an Olympic swimmer. I mean, honest to god, I mean

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little little beanie babies with attitude, you know.

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a part of their environment. We don't. We are absolutely

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fish out of water in the traditional sense of the word.

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after us, we would be sorely lacking in so many

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different ways. If it wasn't for our technology, we would

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Speaker 5: And excelled climbing out of there with crutches anyhow.

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that's important because, of course, you talk to people that

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ladies and gentlemen. So for those skeptics that are out there,

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three years old. I've never seen nothing. Well, by being

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two or three times a year and fishing, you know

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a dozen or sometimes camping at you know. Yeah, I

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mean really when our experience in the woods and in

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the wilds is extraordinarily limited, and it seems that for

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the most part, these beings as well have chosen not

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to have us around. So when we're around, they of

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course aren't for the most part. But you know, some

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of the greatest stories for me are the ones where

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the people that have been, you know, skeptical of all

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this stuff suddenly do have an encounter and then they

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quit hunting. You know, so many hunters that have encountered

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bigfoot and stuff or dog man will just hang it up.

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It's just like, way, wait a minute, nope, you know,

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I mean, it's just a nope factor that So that's

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in a nutshell what the dog man is, ladies and gentlemen.

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one cryptid well, there's several, but this is one of

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them for sure. That's on my top of the don't

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want it list, the nope list for me personally, because

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they're never happy to see people there. Every encounter is

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just this really aggressive confrontation. And people have had cameras,

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they've had guns, they've had everything, and once they're confronted

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some ideas that have been out there and uh, you know,

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some claims, and you know, we're going to reference a

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few things. But I hope I don't I would. I

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don't want to impress on any of you that this

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really incredibly complicated and robust topic area all by itself.

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obviously there's there's shows like Vic Kundiff what is his

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dog Man Encounters dog Man Encounters show, and he dedicates

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all of his time to dog Man and and that's

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a whole lot of encounters and uh experiences with these things.

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other shows do cover this from time to time. And

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that's the way we'll be on the portal is we'll

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we'll definitely tell this and give it as much light

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as we can. Now. We we had the pleasure of

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having Linda Godfrey on the on the portal UH few times,

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and she was wonderful and really incredibly knowledgeable. She's she

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gave us some photos that we got to premiere which

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were excellent, and you can you can find Linda's appearances

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channel at YouTube dot com slash Paranormal Portal and start

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with the first one she gave us. She had on

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also a co investigator of hers, Lee Hemple, and they

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gave us some photos of some things that they'd uncovered

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on Lee's property and it's just amazing and bizarre, and

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they were talking about the you know, when they were

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taking like dead deer and stuff and placing them out

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with camera traps, and and how just tons of weirdness happened.

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That seems to really defy the imagination and may demonstrate

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a real supernatural side to this whole phenomena, which I

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find absolutely astounding, because I think we have a tendency

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don when when confronted with things like Bigfoot and dog Man,

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we like to put them in a very physical category.

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makes it easier for us to comprehend. But what if

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they are also a supernatural being of some kind.

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Speaker 5: Well, the only thing I could think of theirs were screwed,

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because you know, if they're supernatural, you know, there have

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been reports. I was listening to Art Bell ages ago,

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and he was talking to somebody who was out at

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Skinwalker Ranch, and they said that it was nighttime. They

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had IR goggles and IR cameras out there, and with

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their naked eye they did not see this happen, but

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through the IR. One witness said that he basically saw

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a portal open and out came a dog man.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I you know, and that's funny because that does

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kind of line up with some of the things that

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Linda was talking about in a rudimentary sense, because what

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she referenced was they had these camera traps with carcasses

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tied down, and she said it was it was really phenomenal.

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the story from both her and Lee. But she said

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that suddenly there'd be just the weird mist in one frame. First,

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like there'd be a regular frame, then a weird mist

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that seemed to obscure most of the scene, and then

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nothing in the frame after that, you know, even the

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carcass would be gone. And so something happened, and her

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her co researcher Lee, you used Moultrie trail cams, and

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he had all of the specifics down about how many

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how many frames per second it was capturing, and I

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think it was three frames per second that it was

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set to capture. So if something triggered today would do

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three shots over the period of a second, and so

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all of this would have transpired within that same period. Now,

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the area that they were showcasing and talking about. Of course,

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was Bray Road, which is one of the books that

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really put Linda on the map. And Linda Godfrey, I

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think is truly the godmother of the dog Man, you know,

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I mean, she really put it on the map for

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all of us because she's been at it for a

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long time and she's really done an amazing job of

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taking all of this different information from so many different sources,

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making it cohesive and making it, you know, at least

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have makes some kind of sense. Like she's covered so

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many things from claims to legend to Native American legend,

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and she's tied it all together really well. And her

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material is really phenomenal, and if you haven't read her books,

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please check them out because you know you won't miss it.

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But they did actually have some really weird things that

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showed up on trail camp photos as well, and those,

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of course, ladies and gentlemen are on that episode. She

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let us premiere it for the world, and I was

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really honored with that. But a great episode, and it's

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to this day it's still our most popular episode by

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a long shot. So but really, she really did a

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lot of correlating of different events to put together some

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sort of behavior pattern. One of the things that she

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was able to isolate is that these dog men seemed

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to follow waterways. So they use these streams and lakes

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and ponds and aquifers and stuff as you know, maybe

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not aquifers because they're underground, right, but but they use

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them as they're basically their their mode of transportation. They're

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always sighted within close distance of a waterway. And I

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believe the Bray Road, of course, has a waterway going

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right through there in the form of a stream of

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some so I thought that that was really interesting. And

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I don't know, is that just what do you suppose

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that is done?

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Speaker 5: You know, it would makes sense because I mean, you know,

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if if you were out lost in in the woods,

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and or even if you knew where you were, but

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you know, weren't sure, you know, you know, you would

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want to find a waterway too, because you know, rivers flow.

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You know, you follow a river, e you're upriver or

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down river, you're going to come to something, you know,

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because there's going to be homesteads on there, There's going

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to be possibly you know, if you're if you're falling

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the Mississippi, there's a million cities on that are you know,

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a million towns, you know, so, I mean, you know,

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it just makes sense that somebody or something would follow waterways. Now,

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they would be of course following waterways for you know,

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the benefit of the water itself. But then again game

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needs water as well, so not only that, but they're

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hunting as well, So it would totally make sense to me.

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Speaker 4: It's true.

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Speaker 5: You know, they would be following it for both water

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and food. And maybe they understand that this, you know,

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flows this way and it goes here, you know, migratory routes, right,

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things like that. So it makes total sense.

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Speaker 4: No, it does, You're right, And that's that's a good,

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a good, a good way of looking at it. That

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it does make sense that well water is of course

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key to any prey animal. Absolutely, that's you know, the

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lions in the Serengetti are always hanging around the waters

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because that's where the the the herbivores go to drink.

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Speaker 5: But you know what's funny about that, though, is they

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share the water. It's when they get away from the

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water that they don't you share any more.

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Speaker 4: That's true, That is that is a curiosity. I guess

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I never considered that but you're right, but I think

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it's very interesting in both those things I pulled up

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our garbage. I just looked at two of the things

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I pulled up and like, nope, nope, I got I

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got something pulled up here. I thought I had pulled

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it up, but I guess I had omitted it. But

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this is something from Wikipedia, and it talks about the

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Michigan dog Man, And if you don't mind, I'll read

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this at least portions of it. I don't want to

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be exhaustively reading it. But it says the Michigan in

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Michigan folklore. Of course, this is Wikipedia, ladies and gentlemen,

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so everything that's not the normous folklore. The Michigan dog

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Man was allegedly witnessed in eighteen eighty seven in Wexford County, Michigan.

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I did not realize that it went back that far.

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The creature is described as a seven foot tall, blue

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eyed or amber eyed, bipedal canine like animal with the

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torso of a man and a fearsome howl that sounds

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like a human scream. According to legends, the Michigan dog

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Man appears in a ten year cycle that falls on

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years ending in seven I didn't know that. Sightings have

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been reported in several locations throughout Michigan, primarily in the

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northwestern quadrants the Lower Peninsula. In nineteen eighty seven, the

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legend of the Michigan dog Man gained popularity when disc

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jockey Steve Cook at WTCM FM recorded a song about

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the creature and its reported sightings. Okay, so, and then

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it goes on to the history. It says this creature

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is unknown to most of the modern world until very

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late in the twentieth century. It is said to have

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been stalking the area around Manistee River since the days

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when the Otdawa tribes lived there. Odawa adoa Odawa. I

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don't know if I'm pronouncing that. Well, I'm going to

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take your word for it. It's just it's not a

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word I'm familiar with. So I apologize to the Odawah nation.

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That's not my intent to butcher your name. Authentic source

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sources for sightings made prior to nineteen eighty seven, however,

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have never been documented beyond Steve Cook's song to discuss below. Huh, well,

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it sounds like there was a documentation in eighteen eighty seven,

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wasn't there.

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Speaker 5: That's what I read as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know how they get to that

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that has never been documented prior to that, and that

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would be of course not necessarily true. Now, I suppose

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that would be a good segue to talk about things

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like the Sinocephaly and stuff from the ancient world, sure,

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and the Egyptian depiction of the god Anubis, all of those. Now,

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the Sinocephae were these apparently fierce warriors in the ancient

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world who had the heads of dogs, and in fact,

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one of these was supposedly went on to become a

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saint of the Catholic Church. It was Saint Christopher, I think,

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who was supposedly a Sinocephaly, or in other words, had

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the head of a dog. And these were very, very

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fierce warriors, and they they created terror wherever they went.

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In fact, many ancient armies would allegedly, if I'm understanding

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this history correctly, would allegedly make fake dogheads and put

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them on a few of their soldiers as they marched through,

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just so that other armies wouldn't attack them. So they

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were they were regarded with such fear that that it

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even protected people just by looking like there were some there,

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and so this is, you know, this is not a

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new thing of having these excuse me, man like dog

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creatures or you know, canine type men running around. This

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is you know, pretty much as old as our modern

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histories or any histories not modern at all. So I

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think that that deserves some kind of reference at least

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in this whole deal, that it's not just an old,

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old thing, is it.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry I was reading about Saint Christopher. No, you know,

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I did, I did. I do agree, you know, I

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do see the report about an eighteen eighty seven siding,

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so I can definitely you know, you know, I see

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a different one than what you talked about, and it

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talks about it had black fur, a tail was huge,

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at least three feet long. But yeah, I mean obviously

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they go back before, you know, nineteen seventy seven, you know,

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when the disc jockey made that song, you know. But yeah,

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I did look up Saint Christopher and that is the one. Yeah,

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that is the one. Now, I always thought Saint Christopher

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was also supposed to be It says was supposed to

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be seven foot tall with the head of a dog.

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Now I always was told that he was. Yeah, the

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story of children he found and then came across the

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Mighty River, so he was he's a saint of children

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and travelers.

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Speaker 4: Well there you go. But he's apparently a dog man saint.

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Speaker 5: And it does it does say, is I'm sorry this sinocephal.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's how I think it's pronounced.

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Speaker 5: Well that's you're closer than I am. I'm sure a das.

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So yeah, it does connect those two that I just found.

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So it's very interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was really interesting too. And of

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course I don't know, you know, it's it's at least

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a real curiosity that there's reports of these things going

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that far back, including becoming a saint of the Catholic Church,

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which you know, which makes me believe. Then do you

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think these things talked with people at some point?

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Speaker 5: Well, they must have, because you know, I mean, to

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be spreading the word of God, you know, you have

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to speak you know, the language.

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Speaker 4: Now they just gave him pamphlets?

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Speaker 5: Did you like to watch Tower? But you know, it's

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it's interesting because you know, but then again, if you

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if you talk about speaking in tongues, who knows what

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can happen?

472
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,599
Speaker 4: Right, So his recruiting must have been amazing you need

473
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,039
to go to church. Okay, Okay, no problem.

474
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 5: Can I get a free pair of undies please? You know,

475
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:18,599
but I mean, I was just reading. I just happened

476
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:22,880
to come across one of Linda Godfree's blogs. I was

477
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,279
coming through. I didn't realize this was hers. But it

478
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:32,200
talks about it talks about David Walks as a bear.

479
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,839
It's called Bear's Den by David Walks as a Bear.

480
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,359
And it says it talks about the legend of the

481
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:42,599
dog Man. However, from the you know, the native.

482
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: Side.

483
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 5: It says, so there's the legend of the dog Man

484
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,920
here in Michigan North Woods. Eh. There's even a nifty

485
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,319
song about him. Eh. Hey, it seems like a shape

486
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:58,559
shifting deal to me. So here we go. But first,

487
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,400
if you want to learn more about okay, well skip

488
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,559
that part. Now. As a rule, Indians are pretty generic

489
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,799
like Americans, British Lithuanians. Their cultures and the languages very

490
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:11,359
a bit. It says, back in the eighteen sixties there

491
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,640
were a group of warriors of Cheyenne warriors called the

492
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,440
dog Soldiers or dog Bend for many poor US troopers.

493
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,720
So this is back, you know, back in civil or

494
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,160
pre Civil War. I suppose they were the special forces

495
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480
of their time, like wolves or wild dogs. They were

496
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:32,799
tenacious in their pursuit of prey and would come back

497
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:36,640
against and against again and again and again until they

498
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,880
want victory. But these are but depending on your point

499
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,759
of view, shape shifting can change. For Indians, shape shifting

500
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,960
is applied in hunting, song and dance, healing and warfare.

501
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,039
A brave well study his spirit animal for many years

502
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,319
to learn of its uniqueness and mannerisms. So basically what

503
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,720
I'm getting here is that they, through their spirituality and

504
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:04,680
the the connection with their spirit animal, that they would

505
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:08,279
change into an animal in that kind of a sense.

506
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:11,279
So you know, if you want to look back that far,

507
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,200
you know they're they're you know, if you want to

508
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,559
look at the shy and dog man, then you know

509
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,599
you're you're talking about a different kind of dog man,

510
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,799
I'd imagine. But they're talking about shape shifting. Wow, you

511
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:24,680
know too. And it says shape actually shape shifting into

512
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:29,160
real dogs in quotes, real dogs that they mimicked in battle.

513
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:32,480
So huh, I wonder if some of them come from

514
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:33,240
that as well.

515
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to know, I guess, but yeah, this

516
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:38,680
the rabbit hole gets pretty deep when you start looking

517
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,880
into the into the histories that I might have contributed

518
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,640
to this modern day experience that people are having. But

519
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,839
you know, it's it's it's incredible. And the thing that

520
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,480
that I find amazing is that this is one that

521
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,640
I didn't hear about until maybe maybe ten years ago.

522
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:02,759
Before that, i'd never heard anything about a dog man,

523
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,720
and but then again, it was not part of our

524
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:11,000
popular culture until more recently. Again anyway, so I'm sure

525
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000
in the first nations they've they've had, you know, stories

526
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,240
and legends about these things for you know, all time,

527
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:23,480
but you know, I'm not familiar with most of those.

528
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:26,039
But when you know, I think I learned about this.

529
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,519
I think through dark Waters is where I first heard

530
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,000
of the dog Man and I was listening to him.

531
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,519
Maybe it wasn't ten years ago, maybe it was less.

532
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,000
I don't remember how long ago I was listening. I

533
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:40,039
think it was see him, but maybe i'd heard about

534
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:42,759
it before then, But just you know, I didn't really

535
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,200
know what to do with it, so I just threw

536
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,559
it in the back of my mind with all the

537
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:48,960
other garbage that I've heard and not known what to

538
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,519
do with. Through my life. But yeah, but it's just

539
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,039
one of those one of those stories that once I

540
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:58,119
heard it, it really was just like, oh my god,

541
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,880
you know, I was, I was really taken aback when

542
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,000
I started researching Bigfoot. And that's still, you know, of course,

543
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:10,519
is incredibly profound. In fact, I just went out mushroom

544
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:15,119
hunting today in the mountains and I was always looking

545
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,640
around thinking what would it be like to see like

546
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,359
an eight foot hairy thing stalking you? Now I wasn't

547
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:24,400
thinking in terms of dog men, but but I mean,

548
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:26,440
so that would be like, that would be like the

549
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,799
next step, you know, like you're playing the game of

550
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:32,039
what if? It gets worse every time, like, well what

551
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,480
if this? Then? What if this and this? So what

552
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,119
if a big hairy thing was stalking you and it

553
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:38,720
looked like a.

554
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 5: Dog man backwards knees?

555
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that that would just that would that would

556
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,960
screw me up something huge. I don't know if I

557
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,839
could even move the time to go, yeah, and you

558
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,880
just hope it's far enough away so you've got time

559
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,079
to go. But now, the other thing that I've noticed

560
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,200
is a lot of these accounts and encounters with these

561
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:01,400
these beings is really pretty close like they get up

562
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,079
pretty close before they reveal themselves, and then it's like,

563
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,839
you know, you can't run, you know, you can't, you can't.

564
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,159
Speaker 5: There's nothing physically you can do.

565
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, all you can do is just stand there. And

566
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,920
most people that encounter them just freeze because and I

567
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,559
suppose it's a primal response. It's the fight or flight. Well,

568
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:21,519
you know, you can't outrun it. You know, you can't leave,

569
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,440
so you can't fly, fly, so there's no flight available

570
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,079
to you other than you know, the mere seconds it

571
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,519
would take to just you know, disembowel you while you're

572
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:32,960
in full stride, you know, I mean really, there's just

573
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,719
nothing you could do if if you're confronted with something

574
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,360
so big and so powerful, but you know, what do

575
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,519
you do? And so a lot of people talk about

576
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:46,800
just freezing, right, and and that seems to be honestly

577
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,840
the best response, because then they continue the staring match,

578
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,360
and once they've exhibited their dominance, then they just kind

579
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,079
of back up. And and of course everybody that's had

580
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:00,920
these experiences doesn't stick around and go let's see if

581
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,519
we can see it again. They're like, let's get the

582
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:06,079
hell out of here. Yeah, it's a long past time

583
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:08,719
to go. Let's get the hell out of here now.

584
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,280
But horribly intense experiences, very wild. But ladies and gentlemen,

585
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,840
we're gonna go to our break. We're a little late

586
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,719
going to the break, but we're going to do that now.

587
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,639
So please stick with us and we will get into

588
00:35:21,639 --> 00:36:04,559
more of this on the other side. Don't go away,

589
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,639
all right, ladies and gentlemen, We are back and uh

590
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,480
we are talking about the dog Man phenomena tonight, and

591
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,199
Donn and I are just going through a whole laundry

592
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:18,480
list about this thing that we've we've been uncovering through

593
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:22,360
the years of doing the paranormal portal along with our

594
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,480
own you know, personal match that we've gained through the

595
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:29,519
research and such. But this, honestly, don is it's got

596
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:32,199
to be about the most terrifying thing you could encounter

597
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:38,199
in the woodlands. Bar none. I mean, like nothing comes close, right,

598
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,000
I mean, honestly, if you see a bear, you know,

599
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:45,039
you can go o bear you get They tell you

600
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:49,119
get big, you know, make make a low voice bear,

601
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,880
you know, and they put your arms out really wide

602
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,599
and tall, and and you try to increase how big

603
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:58,239
you look. And most often bears will avoid people at

604
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,199
all costs. Anyway.

605
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you remember I had that one that ran

606
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,679
across my yard that day, and there were four of

607
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,480
us standing out there. He just he and he had

608
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:07,119
to have been a four or five hundred pound bear

609
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,119
and just ran right through my yard, looked right at us,

610
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:11,800
kept going. I'm like, you just keep going. So yeah,

611
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,559
I mean if if you avoid them, they'll avoid you

612
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:15,599
for the most part. Yeah.

613
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 4: Don't you wonder what was going on that pushed that

614
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,559
bear there?

615
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 5: Well, I know that he was visiting the next door neighbors,

616
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,639
and the next door neighbors have some pretty intimidating dogs,

617
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:28,480
so the dogs were barking. He was coming from that direction.

618
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:30,880
I think he was just thinking, get the hell away,

619
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,719
you know. But yeah, he just ran right through. He

620
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,119
jumped up into my yard, ran across my yard and

621
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,199
down to the pond. I'm like, oh, wow, wow, okay, cool.

622
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's a positive encounter.

623
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: Yes, it wasn't bad.

624
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: So that's like you saw wildlife. Yep. And it continued

625
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,320
through your yard and we respected it and it didn't

626
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,639
need anybody on the way through. Nope, and then done yep. Now,

627
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000
now repeat that scenario in your head with a dog.

628
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,119
Speaker 5: Man barked, yeah. You know, I don't know if they

629
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:01,679
would have stopped and just look, or you know, ran

630
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,920
and looked over like hey, what's up and then down

631
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,039
the hill. I think they would have been like, hey,

632
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:06,639
your lunch.

633
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, I'm so hungry. Of course I don't know that.

634
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,480
You know the other thing about these these supercrypt these

635
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,599
supercryptids or whatever, I don't know what else to call them.

636
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:21,760
It's just they're so big, so powerful. But in many cases,

637
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:25,039
dogs don't want anything to do with them. You know.

638
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:28,079
There's so many stories of bigfoots, right, and how these

639
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:32,039
these fierce hunting dogs will cower underbeds just because they

640
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:35,039
know they're near. So there's some kind of primal knowledge

641
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:39,519
in those dogs, on a genetic memory or whatever that says, no,

642
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:43,559
these things can kill us, you know, they like learned

643
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:46,559
that somewhere in their ancient history. And of course the

644
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,039
same thing is true with dog men. And now, granted,

645
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,760
there are many stories regarding bigfoot where people's dogs get

646
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,559
torn apart, you know.

647
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,599
Speaker 5: And there's the stories of them killing coyotes and wolves

648
00:38:58,639 --> 00:38:59,079
as well.

649
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 4: Yes, up, and you know, they they clearly don't like

650
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,280
the competition, and they I think I think, for for

651
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,079
the most part, with dog men and bigfoot dogs give

652
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,920
them away, you know, because the senses of a dog

653
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,800
are so much more at tuned and can pick up

654
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,199
the subtle bits of noise that they might make. Because

655
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:24,079
for our ears, they're absolutely silent, you know, they make

656
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:26,760
no noise. But for a dog's ears, I'm sure they

657
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:31,079
know they're coming and certainly alert. But I think that

658
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:33,639
they try to take out the dogs if they're interested

659
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:40,079
in in stealth, in stealth and possibly stalking property for

660
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,199
you know, for whatever reason. You know, not necessarily they're

661
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:45,519
going to eat people, but they may want to eat

662
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:48,800
something on your property, like you may have chickens chickens

663
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,519
for instance, you know, or something to that regard. So

664
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:55,719
that is possible that they that they actually single out

665
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,320
dogs and take them out so they can do their

666
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,280
stuff without being alerted, you know. And you think about

667
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,440
that down how many times? And you live out in

668
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,880
the country and I used to live out in the

669
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,480
country too. I live in a more urban setting now,

670
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,280
But how many times did you go out at night

671
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,480
and just some dog in the far distance? Oh yeah,

672
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,400
was just you know, I can't tell you back back

673
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,880
where I lived in Minnesota, it would be like this

674
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:23,440
chain of barking, you know, from like a mile away.

675
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,480
It was really faint, and then as time progressed, the

676
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,440
you know, the successive dogs at different houses would be

677
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,039
you know, alerting as well. And it's very very creepy.

678
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,440
You know, you don't know what they're alerting to. And

679
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:40,199
once you start looking into this stuff, you know, it

680
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,800
becomes part of your part of your possibility pool. It's like, well,

681
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,400
you know, that could just be a deer, or what

682
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,599
if it's a bigfoot. You know, what if it's a

683
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:51,360
dog man. You know, that's the kind of stuff I

684
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,440
think about because I don't know. Maybe maybe dogs alert

685
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,159
for deer all the time too, I don't know.

686
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 5: Wow, I just found an interesting description. Please, it's I'm

687
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,519
just gonna read the description. I'm going to read the

688
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:08,960
lead up to it. About fifty yards to the right

689
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,159
of us, we saw something moving. We didn't think any

690
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,480
of it, anything of it until we heard big twigs

691
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,039
start to snap. I got out my mag light and

692
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:19,400
shined it in the area. I saw something that was

693
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,280
not human. There were crickets all around, and all of

694
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,840
a sudden, they all stopped. I kept on seeing something

695
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,519
move over in the woods, kind of a silhouette. I

696
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:30,199
thought it was a deer until I shined my light

697
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,679
on it. It must have been six foot nine. It was tall, huge, tall.

698
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,559
It was humanoid. I could see below the mid section.

699
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,760
I could see the I could see thighs, but not feet.

700
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,119
I'm believing it's bipedal.

701
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,039
Speaker 6: Wow.

702
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 5: The hair was either dark brown or black, probably dark brown.

703
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,320
Must have been covered. It must have covered most of

704
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,199
its body, maybe an inch long. We did see one arm.

705
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,639
One of my friends saw it. It was behind a tree,

706
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,480
a little wooded area, and it stood half behind the

707
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,159
tree and exposed. It didn't move at all until we

708
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,400
had the light on it. His upper arm was longer

709
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,360
than a human's. When we shine the light on it, it

710
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:13,599
was just standing looking a little hunched. So six foot

711
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,239
nine is the guest there. He says, it was just huge, tall,

712
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:23,119
humanoid mid section thighs but knocked feet. It's you know,

713
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,760
so either dark brown, inch long fur. One of its

714
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,320
arms was longer than a human So interesting.

715
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,079
Speaker 4: Wow. Oh.

716
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 5: I only got a small view of its face. I

717
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:41,159
could tell it was very hairy, but it didn't remind

718
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,960
me of a dog's face. It made me think more

719
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:49,079
of a human. Interesting. So this one, this one, this

720
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,840
report is still being I guess, is still being Oh no,

721
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,880
this is from six or two thousand and six, So

722
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,000
maybe I'll have to chase that one down a little

723
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,880
bit more. But that's interesting.

724
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,039
Speaker 4: That's a lot interesting. That is really wild. I don't know,

725
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,159
you know, it's so they follow waterways. They they obviously

726
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:18,440
are known to take down you know sometimes well I

727
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,440
can only say they're alleged two of course, because there

728
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,880
are no facts in any of this, unfortunately, but there's

729
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,719
a lot of allegation. But they're known to, you know,

730
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,599
go after herds and farmers fields, such as sheep, such

731
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:36,039
as other animals such as you know, bigger animals, smaller animals.

732
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,239
They're known to go after dogs. In fact. Now that

733
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,719
the confusion can also come in when you're talking about

734
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,840
a type four bigfoot, which is, yeah, the baboon knows

735
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,320
one like the Beast of Seven Shoots, and there's a

736
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,920
famous picture of that and allegedly the backstory, according to Duke,

737
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,119
is that it's you can see something white in its arms,

738
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,199
and what the backstory of that is is that it

739
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,880
was apparently carrying in its arm, under one of its arms,

740
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,239
a full poodle, you know, not the little toy poodle

741
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,519
size or the little mini poodles right, more of a

742
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:16,960
standard yeah, like the German shepherd sized poodles. And it

743
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:19,639
was carrying one of those, or it had like it

744
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:21,800
had like gotten it and was going to eat it.

745
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,159
And it's like now when you look at the pictures

746
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,639
of those they have, they do have, like you said,

747
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:29,440
exactly the bad boon type of snout. And so you

748
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:31,519
got to wonder, as we're looking into this, how much

749
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:34,920
is it just miss misidentification? Sure? You know, what if

750
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,079
there are a lot more Type four bigfoots and maybe

751
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:40,679
not not really the dog man around, what if they're

752
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:42,920
all Type four bigfoots? And that's what's hard to tell,

753
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,519
ladies and gentlemen. There's really no way to no way

754
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:48,280
to know for sure. But I think the clincher for

755
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,000
that is when people get views of the full body,

756
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:55,480
when the backward knee comes in to say, that's not

757
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:58,360
a bigfoot trade at all. That is something completely different, right,

758
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,960
and that you know, imagine if you're if if a

759
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,280
wolf was standing up on its on its back legs,

760
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,199
stretching into the sky, it would it would have the

761
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,840
wolf type legs, and now the feet are bigger on

762
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,800
the dog man, but but you know, there'd be no

763
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,320
mistaking that for a bigfoot. I don't know. I you know,

764
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,360
this is one of those topics that I really wish

765
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,079
I knew a lot more about it, But then again.

766
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,159
Speaker 5: We don't want to know much more.

767
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: It's one of those that it's it's it's kind of

768
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,199
better just to know pieces of it, because then I

769
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,960
don't have to think about it every time I'm mount

770
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,559
in the woods, you know, because you know, honest to God,

771
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:40,800
when you read about these things and then you do

772
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,480
go out in the forest like I got as I

773
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,960
was explaining going out mushroom hunting, you suddenly think about

774
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,760
those things. It's like, what would I do if a

775
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,840
nine foot bigfoot decided, you know, to charge us? What

776
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,920
would I do if there was a dog man just

777
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,639
suddenly appeared, And you know, we're out next to a

778
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,119
creek bed up in the mountain, so there's a waterway,

779
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,679
and this is going through my mind, like what if

780
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,960
you know, what would you do? And I don't know,

781
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:09,679
I don't know. I keep getting stuck on that don

782
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,320
that's where my head goes back to it's like what

783
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,960
would I do?

784
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,679
Speaker 5: Well, you know that's they tell you, you know, play

785
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:17,639
that game with yourself. You know, if I'm in this situation,

786
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,119
what would I do? You know? That way, you know,

787
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:24,320
you have you trained yourself to think about it, so

788
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,880
you hopefully could react when it happens. If it happens.

789
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,440
Let's let's say if it happens in this case, because

790
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,159
we don't want it to win it happens, right, because

791
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:38,239
you know, like you said, you know, there there have

792
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,480
been reports this this one report that I was just

793
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:45,639
reading talks about it chasing his car up to forty

794
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:50,000
miles an hour. Wow, and it was on its four

795
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:53,559
on four feet at that time. Oh okay, so you

796
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:55,880
know he he does believe it was a dog man.

797
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,519
But you know, think about that for a minute, you know,

798
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:02,360
I mean, you know something that can run it forty

799
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,360
miles an hour, you know, and yeah, it's on its

800
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,360
four legs. But you know they use every advantage they can, right,

801
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:09,639
you know.

802
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: And so and that's just the one you're seeing.

803
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what if they hunt packs?

804
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,599
Speaker 4: Right? That's the other parts. Are they a social animal? Yeah?

805
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:21,239
I mean, because we believe bigfoot are There's many, many

806
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,719
accounts of bigfoot pushing deer and then there'll be an

807
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,920
ambush party somewhere under the route there pushing and you know,

808
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:31,760
and it's really pretty pretty uh, you know, complicated.

809
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 5: It's not sophisticated.

810
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:36,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sophisticated. Yes, thank you. It's like it's not like,

811
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,480
oh me see deer, nummy, you know, and and right,

812
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:42,360
you know, and then the game is on. It's like

813
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,559
they they do actually have a strategy and that really

814
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:49,400
denotes a lot of intelligence. Now, wolves also hunt in

815
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,960
that they do, and they are, but they are also

816
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:56,199
a very intelligent animal. Are they human intelligent? No? But

817
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,559
what if these things are, these dog men are human intelligent?

818
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 5: Well, you know, that brings up another question though, too

819
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:08,119
is are dogmen natural? Are they supernatural? Or are they

820
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:10,440
genetically modified as well?

821
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: Well, that's a good point. Now, there's a lot of claims,

822
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:16,280
ladies and gentlemen, that the dogmen that we're dealing with

823
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:22,840
in today's world are some kind of experiment or maybe

824
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,079
a failed experiment, maybe a very intentional experiment. I don't know,

825
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:30,360
but there are claims from several different sources out there,

826
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,039
and I have no dog in this race, no horse

827
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:36,079
in this race at all. So for me, I don't

828
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,119
know what to make of those claims. Is it possible,

829
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:41,400
I guess because I don't think there's a lot of

830
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,800
restraint on government testing, and you know, in most cases

831
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:48,559
they kind of just do whatever they want to see

832
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:52,920
if they can. Well, hell, it happens everywhere, but especially

833
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,280
in government things, because when they are trying to develop

834
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,239
a weapon, and if it's a by logical weapon, then

835
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,159
that's even better that has intelligence and can be directed,

836
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:06,880
you know, I mean, would you put it past them done?

837
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:10,119
Speaker 5: Not at all, because we already know, we already see

838
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:13,920
stories about them using pig genes to clone you know,

839
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:18,760
human human hybrid human pig hybred, you know. And now

840
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,320
whether that's true or not, it doesn't matter, because you know,

841
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,079
they there have been these secrets that have come out,

842
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,840
you know, talk about you know, the black, black, black

843
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,840
aircraft programs like the A twelve and the and the

844
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:38,920
the the SR seventy one's, you know, they were black

845
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,760
projects at one time, but now they're fact, you know,

846
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,880
so who knows.

847
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, exactly in the U two spy plane and

848
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,159
all that exact those are all just rumors but then

849
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,119
they then they come out so TRB three t R

850
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:55,480
three B. Yeah, that's the new one, right, that's regul

851
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,199
So you know, would you put it past the gum

852
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,440
at all? Now? Okay? And I don't think I would either,

853
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,840
because you know, I mean, what did China do? They

854
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,039
just came out and talked about putting human brain genes

855
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:16,480
into monkeys, into chimps, and it's like, really, I saw

856
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:20,599
that movie. It doesn't end well, yeah, exactly, It's like, wow,

857
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,960
could you really could you really not see how that

858
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,920
works out? Let me direct your attention to nineteen seventies TV.

859
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 5: Wow.

860
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: So you know, I mean, clearly the experimentation issue is

861
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,360
is probably on the board somewhere. I don't know if

862
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,079
it accounts for everything people are seeing, but maybe it accounts.

863
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,079
Speaker 5: For some of it, you know. And we've had somebody

864
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:47,280
on the show so that, you know, Dog Soldiers.

865
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:49,639
Speaker 4: Yep, I know, I know. Keep that in mind, yes,

866
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:52,840
and I you know, I don't discount that it's not possible.

867
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,119
I'm just saying it's just one of those things that

868
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,679
I generally just try to stay positive, you know, that

869
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,599
things aren't quite as bad as they could be, and

870
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:06,159
maybe that makes me naive. It might very well be

871
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,719
a naive state of mind, but I just think that

872
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:14,079
I would like to think that hopefully everybody's working towards

873
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:16,679
a common good here. But you know, i'd probably be

874
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,639
pretty disappointed if I knew all the truths. But then again,

875
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:22,320
you know, who can know. We're never going to know

876
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,360
everything that's been done or is being done. But you know,

877
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,760
these things are out there. Clearly, there's a lot of witnesses.

878
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,920
There's thousands and thousands of witnesses to these creatures as well,

879
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,199
and that's not counting big for this is just dog men.

880
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,960
There's thousands of encounters with dog men, and so people

881
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,280
are seeing something and hopefully, you know, we'll continue to

882
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,559
dive into this phenomena and come to a better understanding

883
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:54,079
of what this all means. But I don't know. It's

884
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,199
the idea that the thing that keeps surprising me as

885
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:00,599
we discover the paranormal and as we read search it down,

886
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,159
is how little we probably know that, yeah, you know,

887
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,440
there's a fact, and how how how much are we

888
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,880
looking at the world through rose colored glasses because we

889
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,800
don't even have a clue of all that's going on

890
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,519
around us and that's uh, that's kind of frightening. Really

891
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:19,119
it is. I think it is, it is, But what

892
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:21,440
do you think I think there?

893
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 5: I think I agree. You know, there's just too much

894
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,280
going on, you know, too many different people and countries

895
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,519
and types you know, all the you know, because we

896
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:34,280
have you know, back you know, Cold War era. You know,

897
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,119
the Russians are you know, doing these experiments with psychics

898
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:40,559
and and remote viewing and this, that and the other.

899
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:45,519
Speaker 4: But they human and yeah, ape DNA right or or

900
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,679
at least cross breeding. They tried crossbreeding. I don't think

901
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:49,199
they knew about DNA back then, but.

902
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 5: Well yeah, but I mean it just it just speaks

903
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,599
to the point of somebody's had to have done some

904
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:59,800
kind of experimentation, right, you know, to come to these conclusions.

905
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,920
And it's just all scary, you know, whether you believe

906
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,280
it's natural, supernatural, or you know, genetically modified in some way,

907
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,559
it's just scary all the way around, especially as you said,

908
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:11,840
when we talk about the dog men.

909
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely so, ladies and gentlemen. I think that's going to

910
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:18,000
wrap up our journey tonight, just a nice all around

911
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:22,199
discussion about the dog man phenomena. It's certainly something We'll

912
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,360
be diving into way more specifically in future episodes, but

913
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,360
we wanted to put it on our podcast map here tonight.

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