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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka colored a podcast from the Mac

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of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

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Chrysler Dots. Gee Ram, It's Billified The Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Ol, Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on.

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Thank you for telling a friend. And that's how we

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spread the word cool. What hat is that?

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Speaker 3: New York pilots?

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Speaker 2: All that's right. I love a game.

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Speaker 3: Collegiate Baseball League.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Oakley, you're a big Oakley guy. Yeah, that's

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all right. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have a pair of Oakley sunglasses. I was just

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like the sweatshirt.

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Speaker 2: I had a dream the other night.

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Speaker 3: They had a sale one day and I bought a few.

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Speaker 4: I uh, somebody, somebody's trying to get me to buy Oakley,

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not sunglasses, ski goggles, not kidding, And I said, no,

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I want to go buy these this brand knock around,

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I like, knock around their glasses, their sunglasses, and they're inexpensive.

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And they're like, I mean, I say expensive, I don't know,

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twenty five dollars a pair. But they hold up their

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knock around they could fall down. They and they a

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bunch of different styles. You can get your sports teams

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if you want. It's a great website. And then they

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have ski goggles and things as well, and sometimes they

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run package deals and I just like them. I've liked

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them for a while. And uh so I in my dream,

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I'm going no want, I want. It was a weird thing.

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It was just this week and this is so funny.

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You wear the Oakley thing.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I saw you hanging out with

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Juice Fields on Super Bowl Sunday. Yeah, yeah, how is

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that party?

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Speaker 3: Great spread, trevendous spread, great party, that tremendous party. Yeah,

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Jet Juice want a ton of money?

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Speaker 2: Look at you? Yeah you texted me.

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Speaker 3: Ye his his his boiler busted the night before. Oh

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my god, and he want enough money to pay for it.

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And then some okay turned the super Bowl. So yeah,

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I mean he's very successful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he Uh it looked nice and I it was

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a fun time. He's taller than I thought. Yeah he

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has tall that or you shrunk, No, No, he's tall okay. Yeah,

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because I wasn't sure what expect and I felt bad

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because I was invited there. I was invited to Kevin,

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not Kevin's house, but Kevin's buddies and uh and then

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Arnie Roth's child who uh rbtl uh said, invited me

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to his he has a loft downtown and uh, I

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went to none.

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Speaker 2: I had just so much work in schoolwork stuff. I

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didn't do any.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do any I didn't even really watch the game.

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It was kind of a boring game.

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Speaker 3: You know it, but it kept you in it just

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because you're waiting for New England to be just to

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wake up. Yeah, because when because I've seen Seattle play before,

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and I've seen Arnold in games where you let the

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opponent hang around. It's three nothing, six nothing, nine nothing.

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You don't want to be kicking field goals. You want

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to bury them. And eventually they they did. And you know,

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of course Collinsworth is praising Drake made everybod's killing collins Worth.

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I think Collinsworth does a great job. And he's like,

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you know, now he's started to fight his rhythm. Next play,

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Oh what do I know?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Who would make that play? Patrick Mahoes. By the way,

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there were bets on Cashi on whether or not Collinsworth

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would mention Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes you're kidding, no, oh wow?

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Speaker 3: And somebody asked him about it in a radio row at

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the Super Bowl, and so he didn't mention mahomes once

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the entire game. Yea, so people want some money on Collinsworth,

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whether or not he mentioned Patrick Mahoe. So yeah, but

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we had a great time. But juiced to throw a

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heck of a party. He's got a beautiful house. He

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took him like years to remodel it. He and his

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wife done a great job. They got a nice little dog,

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two great kids. My nephew and niece are terrors. Oh

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my gosh. They had like the second quarter. We had

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to calm my nephew down. He's like bam, bam, he's

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breaking all my nieces or his cousin's toys and stuff.

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You want. You want to talk about a halftime show?

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My goodness, we're picking up stuff.

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Speaker 4: Well, the halftimes show is the most washed halftime show

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in Super Bowl history.

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Speaker 3: See what controversy does? It creates cash?

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't even know. Like I I watched it.

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I didn't. I thought I get it, I get it.

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I see what this is.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see it. I didn't see any halftime show.

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I was driving home. Oh but my wife wanted to

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listen to it because she's a music person. We'll buy

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people she like, you know, and so I just they

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played it on the radio broadcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't understand it.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean either, but it was okay, eating fun.

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It kind of reminded me of the Caribbean a little bit,

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and I thought that there was a lot of cool.

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Speaker 2: Things in there.

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Speaker 4: When he gave himself his young self the grammy, I

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was like, that's that's pretty cool, and you know, just

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kind of a pitch to Puerto Rico and Latin countries

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and it was all in Spanish.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the people who were gonna hate it said

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they hated it. The people were gonna love it said

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they loved it. You could tell. But there was one

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person locally who actually gave bad Money a compliment and

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said that he really enjoyed it. And it's somebody that

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I didn't think would say that. And I'm like, Okay,

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here's a thinking person. Oh okay, here's someone who is

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not just swept away by audiology. Yeah he's he's I'm

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gonna give this a neutral I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Give this conservative talk show host. Yes, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna give this some Yes, it was Bob, and he

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gave it. He gave it a fair shake, and he

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said he really enjoyed it. Everybody else on one side

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a ledger, you could pretty much figure out what their

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opinion is.

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Speaker 2: There was it's interesting. This is very interesting because there

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are there.

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Speaker 4: I had put up a clip and all I said

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in the clip was I enjoyed it. I thought it

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was more about unity. I thought it was showing kind

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of the melting pot of what this country is, the

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influences of that. I wasn't offended by the fact that

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it was all in Spanish. It was all in Spanish,

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so and uh, I thought it was kind.

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Speaker 2: Of cool and it felt like a good vibe.

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Speaker 4: And what did I care. It's a halftime show. It's

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not a do you know what I'm saying, It's a

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half time it's entertainment. If I didn't and I said,

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you know what, if you didn't like it, there was

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an alternative.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three million people want didn't have to You didn't

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have to like it, right, You didn't have to like it, Yeah,

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I mean to like either one of them. You could

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like both, yeah, or like both like it just didn't matter.

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So I had put something up there.

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Speaker 4: And man, the the stuff it went, it went flying.

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Speaker 3: You know, our favorite pastime is in this country outrage.

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Speaker 4: Well it was weird to me because it's it's not

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you ever notice that when you're in an argument. Okay,

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So whenever there's an argument and someone calls you a name,

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it's basically over the argument.

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Speaker 3: Isy've lost, thoughts well, yeah, proud of ideas, not because

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it's resolved, exactly, because it just fell off a freaking

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cliff man. There's nothing there and it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: What the what the argument is about. The argument could be.

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Speaker 4: About parenting, football policy, whatever it is. You go to

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name calling, and it's basically like it's over.

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Speaker 3: Once you reach the ad hominem portion of the program.

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It is no longer a valid exactly. You've lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels okay, So I've been If I.

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Speaker 3: Call you an a hole in the argument, I've lost.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because the next second you're a washed up loser

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and somebody I have no care.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say this. I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I don't enter into the arguments on my own page.

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I usually don't look at them, but now I'm getting

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notices that they that people are commenting on these stuff.

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Speaker 3: People which are really four people comment to your post.

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Speaker 4: Over and over, and you know it's it's I go,

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we're not debating anymore. It's like you're auditioning for middle school.

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But it was Bjsha. It was an old it was

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an old producer of the of a legendary morning show

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in this town had gone and just said how awful

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this was. And then people are putting up pictures of

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Bad Bunny in address, and bad Bunny says all these things,

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and I'm like, okay, when we start litigating the past.

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The only thing that I saw was a guy who

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seemed to be tastefully and respectfully dressed, paying homage to

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the football game that his uncle played with his uncle's

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number sixty four, and that who gave himself a Grammy,

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which who wouldn't want to give yourself when you're a

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kid going hey, hang in there, it's gonna you know,

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all your dreams come true.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I thought it paid it.

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Speaker 4: But this, I mean, well, to take bad Bunny, I

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take that side out of it. It was like I'm

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watching this and I see these people arguing, and I

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go when it dissolves into to in you know, into insults.

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Speaker 2: Did that person just lose the argument? And what does

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it say when our leaders do it? I don't. I

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mean they're out of ideas.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's kind of it kind of comes up with like,

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that's it, that's the best you got. You're the guy

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in charge. Well, when you're one of the people in charge.

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Speaker 4: You could say things like and I think you started

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to say you're out of ideas. Cognitively, yeah, you you

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have nothing else to say.

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Speaker 3: Or at the very least, you don't know how to go.

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Speaker 4: Well, you've lost cognitive control. Yeah, right, you've got so

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pissed off. And I believe me, I've been there. I

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think I probably you know in the past you all

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have or you don't.

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Speaker 2: We all have. You don't have a stronger point left.

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You feel threatened, not necessarily wrong, but threatened.

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Speaker 3: I mean you think about all your thoughts, they're all there,

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the end game of no more ideas? Right, every thought

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you have, every idea you have, every belief you have,

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is the end game that you've come to. That's the

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conclusions that you've come to. There's that you don't or

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you that's that's the best argument you can make.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I can think too, is could they

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wanted to stabilize you emotionally so your head's out of

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the game, Like they're getting in your head a little

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bit by calling you names.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I will say when President and Drum was

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on the debate stage the first time, he starts calling

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a little Marco Rubio or just these little.

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Speaker 2: You know, uh, sleepy, sleepy joke sleep. Yeah. But it

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wasn't that.

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Speaker 4: It was who was He was going after Bush's brother

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and he hadn't Jeb. Yeah, he had a name for Jeb,

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and I forget what the nickname was for Jeb. And

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I remember going, oh my god, you.

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Speaker 2: Could do that, you can do I never saw that.

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He never did. And I don't know that he was

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out of ideas. I don't think he was. I just

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and that's where I'm going.

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Speaker 4: Okay, when you attack the person instead of the position

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at hominem as you say, right, and so it's basically

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what that is, You're attacking the person.

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Speaker 2: Not the position. You've left the substance of the argument.

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And I go.

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Speaker 4: Today, Pam Bondy is in front of Congress and listen

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to this.

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Speaker 5: She listen.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the same thing. A guy called Bjyshay on

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my Facebook page washed up loser.

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Speaker 6: Listen, you can let her filibuster all day long, but

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not on the our watch, not on our time, No way.

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Speaker 2: We clear.

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Speaker 7: I told you about that Attorney general before you start.

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Speaker 5: You don't tell me.

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Speaker 8: I did tell you, because you saw what you did

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Speaker 2: Lawyer not even a lawyer. Now, I would normally say, Danny,

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you go to like you're down to the insult.

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Speaker 4: You've kind of hit the intellectual eject button in the argument, right,

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I mean it would I would say that.

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Speaker 3: Like I ever seen Lauren Babbert, who's the representative from

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Colorado calling a host on CNN a washed up loser

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or something like that, And I'm like, well, what was

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the argument?

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Speaker 2: All I know is that, like I don't know what

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Speaker 3: I just know that, like she's just going to insults

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when you have to go to the insult box.

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Speaker 2: The augument's over.

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Speaker 4: We'll hang on now, hang on now, hang on just

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a second, hold that thought and see if you agree

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with her what I'm about to say to you, because

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when I saw this, I go, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Pambot.

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Speaker 4: At that point, they're basically telling her that We're not

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going to let you run on and on and on. Well,

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she has nothing she can really say to that on

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any level, not intellectual, not anything.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're sort of at their mercy.

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Speaker 4: So to come back and insult people sometimes it's not

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because you lost, it's because you're trying to win the crowd.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And it's a world we live in now, and you're

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trying to win the style you got it. It's performance aggression.

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It's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 3: Christ Colt said, so wo what did he say? Nothing?

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Speaker 2: I just made fun of the rack, and I go,

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that's different from intellectual defeat. This is an intellectual defeat.

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Speaker 6: This is that you can let her filibuster all day long,

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but not.

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Speaker 2: On arguing issues. Just not on our time, no way.

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Speaker 7: And I told you about that Attorney General before you start.

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Speaker 2: You don't tell me.

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Speaker 8: I did tell you because I saw what you did

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Speaker 2: Lawyer not even a lawyer, she married, she married. I

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don't either. I don't know however, whoever has to deal

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with that. Oh God, you can hear that like slightly southern.

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Speaker 3: Tell me, are you but you washed up loser?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But when you drop washed up loser. I would normally go, okay,

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once loser comes right, intellectual eject button, you're out.

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Speaker 2: You're out of the argument intellectually. But now I'm starting

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to think when it when it's some when it's someone

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of power, it's like it's it's about winning the crowd

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and people want to see this.

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Speaker 3: Well then later on, yeah, I didn't get later on

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with her, Yeah, yeah, go on, it was this about Epstein. Yes, okay,

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it was about Epstein. This is all we're hearing about now.

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Speaker 2: And well they're going hard at it because they think

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there's more there. Now, there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, no one's going

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to get prosecuted for this.

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Speaker 4: But but yeah, it's really I'm fortunate, right, it's awful.

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But she go, but she's not saying like it's I

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don't mean that for anything. It's like, believe me, there

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are people on.

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Speaker 2: Both sides of the aisle, yes, that had something to

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do with it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we made we actually know a guy named

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the Bitiness Flow.

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Speaker 2: He's not he's not invulved. Bobby Slayton didn't go go ahead,

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didn't tell the story.

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Speaker 3: Bobby Slayton is not involved in the Epstein situation.

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Speaker 2: But they they went and got all the emails, or

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not all of them. They're getting.

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Speaker 4: They're letting us see certainty, just I think to satiate us.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, because like there's there's a lot more they're

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not going to show us, and there's a lot that's redacted. Okay,

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But Bobby Slayton it has since told Jeffrey Epstein he'd

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rather be in Manhattan having lunch or dinner with him

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than going to that crap hole Rochester to do. I

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think the hell whole of roches of comedy is Rochester,

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New York or something like that, Okay, And you know

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it'll be so I'm just saying, we know people who

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are like, it's kind of funny when it hits home. U.

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Speaker 2: Well, is funny. And I and and and I.

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Speaker 3: Found that in that vein if he were like doing

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something bad, that'd be different.

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Speaker 2: I would be supposed to.

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Speaker 4: Go to dinner with Woody Allen and he goes, I

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wish I was going to dinner with you and Woody Allen.

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And then I think he Epstein was a fan of

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stand up comedy, so I think he took.

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Speaker 2: Lewis Black to a dinner there with him. I don't remember.

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I wish. I was so tempted to call Bobby, but

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then I'm like.

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Speaker 3: He's probably getting it from all sides.

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Speaker 4: Bobby was a friend of mine and I don't even

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know that we were really friends. We hung out. I

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opened for him a few times. I am seed for him.

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Let me rephrase that. I I don't want to say

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the wrong way. I am seed the shows he did

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and uh I and we hung out with each other

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and he's come on the podcast graciously many times. But

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he's brother Weez's friend. You know, they were tight and

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uh so I don't I don't know about Uh yeah,

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I wouldn't call.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just like there's he's like Sean Gruden Washington, the

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Washington Redskins got investigated, and Seohan Grudge just happened to

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like call de Morris Smith, the head of the Players

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Association by a certain name. This was fifteen years before

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they opened up these emails because of that email had

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nothing to do with anything that were being investigated for.

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Speaker 2: And so it becomes news.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes it gets out. We can't have people we

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just you just can't write.

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Speaker 3: And he's the NFL and it's it's advancing, like it's

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going to the next level.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. My only question for Bobby is like,

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how cool that you're mentioned? Like that's my thing? I go, God, damn,

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you got mentioned in the file. He do it?

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Speaker 3: He could play Epstein bingo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, Bobby has I would I would absolutely bet all

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the money in my bank account. That's not that much,

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but I would bet all that that He never would

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do something like that because he has a daughter who

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he loved and her mother died and it was just

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her and Bobby when she was like sixteen seven team

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I think she died and h Sasha I think is

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her name, and really pretty girl. She was in a

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girl group for a while. But Bobby, I just go,

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how could you go?

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Speaker 4: And the one I'm curious about honestly in the Epstein

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files and don't want to get back to the arguing

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thing Peter Tia No.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Bill Gates. Oh yeah, I'm just curious about Bill Gates.

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I really am, because I because so philanthropic and yet

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some of this stuff he did, if you hear about

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it or read about it, depends on where you hear

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the information.

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Speaker 4: Again, I always go I'm not so sure, but kind

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of controlling in a way. Yes, you know, and money

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is power and you have control when you have that.

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Speaker 3: But I, at one point the richest man in the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So what do you do when someone throws.

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Speaker 2: An insult tag you in an argument?

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Speaker 9: Me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate arguing. So yeah, whatever, Okay, yep you

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in Yep, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you don't fire.

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Speaker 3: I'm a doucia, soaurus I just repeat what back what

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they say, I'm a douce to source put back. Then

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Pam BONDI said, look at the economy, look at the

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Dow Joe, look at.

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Speaker 2: The S and B five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Okay, she's deflecting. She was deflecting basically, look at the

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stock market. Why are we talking about this?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're not answering the question, right, right, Okay, Yeah,

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I mean I've been in situations like that, even just

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sort of recently, where I've had to say to somebody,

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I'm not here to litigate the past. I'm not I'm

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Mark mcgworth. I'm here to well, I'm not here to

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litigate the past. Well, it's done, is done. I can't

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change them. I want to have things moving forward, and

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believe it or not, we're on the same page. It

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was a statement I've recently made, and I go, okay,

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you know a lot of people thought when that happens.

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Speaker 2: Yet, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: When people argue, you need to remember you can't look

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at your person like as an adversary. You need to

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look at them as a partner.

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Speaker 2: You're a person, Yes, the person you're.

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Speaker 3: Arguing with, you actually want to look at them as

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a partner. If you're really trying to solve the issue, Yeah,

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you really want to look at them as a partner.

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Speaker 2: And that way you'll actually But.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes even in a like okay, I thought you're talking

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more about romantic relationship, no nostand what you're saying in.

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Speaker 3: Other words, like you and I are on opposite sides

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of a certain subject. You know, it's the argument becomes

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more productive if I look at you as a partner

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than an adversary, right, And that way we come to

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a conclusion that where we could both learn from.

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Speaker 2: Who do who? Do most people our age argue with

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younger people? Do you think so older people? I don't

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have an answer. I have an answer. I don't know

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that it's a correct answer, but I have an answer.

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Are people are as people somewhere in our age who

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do they argue most with? And I would think it's

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their partner, their spouse.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I think you

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meant like non extors like to argue with millennials.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I've phrased that wrong. But so that's

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what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: My wife and I don't argue at all. I think

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it's a little weird.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but but maybe you should.

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Speaker 4: Or at least bring things up, because otherwise, if nothing's

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brought up and everything's boring all the time, a little

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little spark once in a while.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're very affectionate her, all reped ups think I

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should Yeah, boo, tonight we're gonna play lawn darts.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean when you name call it destroys progress.

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Speaker 4: Then there's people who just freeze right, nothing goes forward

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because they.

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Speaker 2: I've been in that situation.

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Speaker 4: You freeze right, you can't think, well, you start to

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internalize it, what is this really?

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, now instead of like

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you know, you're not listening anymore in the argument, why

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are you saying that to me? And then five minutes later,

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Why didn't I say this exactly?

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Speaker 2: You feel like George Costanza. It's it's like a bill here.

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Speaker 3: It's like, why did I say that?

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Speaker 2: I do that?

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about that earlier.

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Speaker 4: I think the people that usually win, and I think,

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if if you're in a relationship, pay attention to this

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for a second. The people that win are the ones

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that can regulate and use a calm tone. I really do,

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even if the other person is like raising their voice

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and doing things. And think back to moments in your life,

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whether it be with a partner, a coworker, and anybody,

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a girlfriend at one point, a boyfriend at one point,

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you know, because you don't reward the insult by giving

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them anything.

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Speaker 2: And I even.

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Speaker 4: Got something. I was out somewhere and I just thought

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of this. Now a couple argument kind of breaks out

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and the guy says something to his wife like, yeah,

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you're such a wherever you get to be such a

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mouthy bitch.

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Speaker 2: Or something to that effect. And I think she said,

471
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if we're done name calling. It was always like being

472
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scolded by a.

473
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Speaker 3: Teacher, accusations aud it, Well that's what it's called.

474
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: If we're done name calling, and actually like to get

475
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,000
back to the actual issue here, which is the fact

476
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,319
that you're drawn and we need to go home. Yes,

477
00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:06,720
and did, but I remember thinking, oh, that's that's different.

478
00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:09,519
My parents didn't do that. They were screaming at each other.

479
00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 3: But I think we have more information now to understand

480
00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:17,519
how to. We have more thought leaders and more information

481
00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:22,400
and podcasts and people who specialize in psychology to kind

482
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,440
of who have written books and given us better ideas

483
00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:28,160
on how to do that. Our parents' generation, like they

484
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,039
were raised by the World War two generation, they didn't

485
00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:34,559
have time to find their innercesse I get that work

486
00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:35,519
on their personal growth.

487
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Speaker 4: I'm sure I can take that as an answer anymore.

488
00:22:38,079 --> 00:22:40,519
I hear what you're saying and I understand it, and

489
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I will say.

490
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Speaker 2: This, it was to the mood, Alice. I will say this.

491
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Speaker 4: I think that everybody I like to believe this, and

492
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,480
I sometimes waffle a little bit, but everybody is doing

493
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the best, did the best.

494
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Speaker 2: They could with what they had, right, Okay, So if

495
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we go with that, So that's it.

496
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Speaker 4: However, the generational trauma that went on in my family,

497
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,880
all right, we hear about generational trauma. That's different. Intergenerational trauma.

498
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,720
Mom and dad fought a lot. They screamed in front

499
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of each other. I find somebody who does that same

500
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:17,799
dance with me. I yell and scream in front of

501
00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:21,240
my kids. Those kids grow up, they find somebody that

502
00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:24,319
does it. It's intergenerational trauma, and it really is, and

503
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,240
it's something that just never kind of resolves. And what

504
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:30,079
you wind up doing is this awful dance. It's drinking.

505
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,559
It's the you know what I mean, And I gotta

506
00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:34,680
tell you I saw it in my family. I mean

507
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:37,799
terribly so, terribly terribly so. And that's where I think,

508
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:42,920
like the name calling often happens more with divorce, co parenting,

509
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,000
that sort of thing, and if you can stay away

510
00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:48,079
from them, I mean, just keep that not it's not

511
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,400
even a dickish tone.

512
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Speaker 2: Tone.

513
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 4: The big joke used to be that, you know, it's

514
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,759
it's not what you said, it's how you said. It's

515
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:58,960
your tone. You know, I think I even heard it's

516
00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,920
your tone, Tony.

517
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean that's that's part of communication, right,

518
00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:05,119
But seven thirty eight fifty five thirty eight of it.

519
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 4: Is tone, right, So I think tone is important and

520
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,759
that's where I go. If you can regulate and reframe

521
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:13,839
and keep your tone. That's because those.

522
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: Things can be tough.

523
00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, even workplace disputes. I had workplace disputes when we

524
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work together all the time.

525
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we did too with each other. Yeah, it's

526
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:23,319
not not that many, but mostly it was upstairs. Ye,

527
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,960
but that would boil down to us. We'd be under

528
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,160
pressure and then you know, so things would boil over.

529
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 4: But here's the thing that I thought. I heard somebody

530
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:40,240
say once that Richard Nixon normalized lying because of the

531
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:41,200
Watergate scandal.

532
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: Iron monocrocal.

533
00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he normalized lying that when you see and

534
00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:47,720
this was somebody like years ago, and I thought I

535
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:50,799
thought about that a lot, and I go, well, maybe

536
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,599
maybe I don't know what they're saying. Basically, is leaders

537
00:24:54,599 --> 00:24:58,319
set the tone. This is normalized now, so people lie.

538
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:01,559
Maybe that's true, Maybe that's not so. Now he takes

539
00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:04,119
the insults, right, we got Pam Bondy.

540
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: But I mean, even I keep saying, I gotta say

541
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,160
it again. I don't know where we end up. But god,

542
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,640
I laughed, laugh.

543
00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:18,279
Speaker 3: It's opening the door to look like a Banana republic. Yes,

544
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,119
this is what happened to Banana republica.

545
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: But it lowers the temperature standard is exactly what I

546
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:24,640
was thinking, Like this standard right now, we've just lowered

547
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,559
the level.

548
00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:26,759
Speaker 2: We've come down.

549
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 4: And I don't know if the one thing I will

550
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,640
say because I often thought about that quote that I

551
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,640
don't even remember where who said it or where I

552
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,359
heard it, but Richard Nixon normalized line and I always thought, Wolly,

553
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,200
that seems a little and it was something that just

554
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,759
kept rattling around in my head for many years now,

555
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,839
and I thought maybe, I mean, maybe that's true. And

556
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,599
now when you see this, we see more insults. Now,

557
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,960
maybe that's maybe we don't maybe maybe people are going,

558
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,440
all right, but enough of this. We got to go

559
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,000
the other way.

560
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: But I think it just shows that that dominance, right,

561
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:02,559
that's what that is.

562
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 4: It's dominance. I'm going to dominate. This thing is more

563
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,319
powerful than dialogue. And we don't see a whole lot

564
00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:11,200
of dialogue right now.

565
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,079
Speaker 2: No, nobody's trying to learn, they're trying.

566
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 3: To win well or are they performing? Because that too

567
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:19,440
for the viral clip, what goes viral?

568
00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, she told them, Danny, she told them along was

569
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,799
this this thing, and I don't know that this is

570
00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:26,119
like ten seconds.

571
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,799
Speaker 6: This is you can let her filibuster all day long,

572
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:31,000
but not on our watch, not on our time.

573
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: No way.

574
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,319
Speaker 7: And I told you about that Attorney general before you start.

575
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: You don't tell me.

576
00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 8: I did tell you because I saw what you did

577
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,000
in the center.

578
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: Lawyer, not even a lawyer, a lawyer, Oh god, oh god.

579
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359
Every guy has to got to go there is you.

580
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,599
Speaker 4: I don't care if you're even if that, if that's

581
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,079
your side of the aisle, if you're a man, and

582
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,599
you hear that, your figure guts to tell you.

583
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,519
Speaker 2: God damn it. Here we go again. Yep, Oh yeah,

584
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:03,920
the big thing is outrage like that travels faster than nuance,

585
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,720
the actual.

586
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 4: PAMBONDI saying nothing to that and playing by the rules

587
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,680
would be fucking boring.

588
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:13,839
Speaker 3: Right Well, that's called every day I'm serious.

589
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:16,319
Speaker 5: But it's a artisan is structural shit.

590
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: It's a fucking noise, is what it is.

591
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,839
Speaker 4: When people go But you know what, what people I

592
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,880
don't know if it's true or not, but we hear

593
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,680
about they're trying to distract you.

594
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:29,279
Speaker 2: They're trying to distract you. That's a fucking distraction right there.

595
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,359
And I don't even know anybody did it on purpose.

596
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,400
She was probably really pissed yes, legitimately, but it's a distraction.

597
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,039
It means nothing. They're not talking about an issue.

598
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 3: No, this was the issue within the issue within the issue.

599
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,799
Speaker 4: Right discussing, and I think, like the guy who called

600
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:48,079
Bjshay a washed up loser on other thing, and it

601
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,799
made me laugh on my I did chuckle.

602
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,599
Speaker 2: I got a chuckle.

603
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,079
Speaker 4: And then BJ comes back to basically saying everything I've

604
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,839
said here. If you're if this is where you're reaching to,

605
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,480
I'm happy to get back to talk about the issue.

606
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,319
But if this is it, then the argument is over. Yeah,

607
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,680
And it was kind of I'm summarizing what he said.

608
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,279
They're synopsizing, but.

609
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: You can see it.

610
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,599
Speaker 4: And I will say, arguments, I don't think arguments end

611
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:15,519
when somebody wins.

612
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: I don't.

613
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: I think the arguments will end when someone regulates, when

614
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,400
someone keeps it even tone. I will tell you this,

615
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,079
And I don't know the kind of house you grew

616
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,319
up in. I know the stereotype of Italians is loud,

617
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,720
right and yelly and almost like they're talking yelling, and

618
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,559
or they're yelling but they don't like. People aren't even

619
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,559
emotionally bothered by it because it's just the normal volume, right,

620
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,960
or even the speech pattern of the tone.

621
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:48,759
Speaker 2: Here he comes.

622
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: You know, the number of people that I know or

623
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:57,640
have met over the years who never heard their parents argue.

624
00:28:57,759 --> 00:28:59,559
And that's why when I when you said to me,

625
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,440
they came from the World War two generation. Okay, but

626
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,160
the number of people I know who did not hear

627
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,599
their parents argue, like they knew they were disagreements, but

628
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,200
they wouldn't argue in front of the kids.

629
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:14,079
Speaker 3: And my parents never argued in front of us. You

630
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,480
knew something was up, but they never argued.

631
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,559
Speaker 2: It never got loud with each other.

632
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: My father would, my mother would shed just go cry.

633
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:22,759
But the point was, but they never they never.

634
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,279
Speaker 4: It was never a back and forth Okay, yeah, dominant

635
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,160
yeah over dialogue.

636
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:30,359
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I got it because I said so.

637
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,039
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the loudest person wins the room. Right. Oh,

638
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,880
he wanted to know my father, you just want to

639
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,759
shut up because.

640
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,319
Speaker 3: I'm louder than everybody else. And there are times, now

641
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:42,039
it's an adult where I wish I could go back

642
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,759
and actually, hey, Dad, now that i'm your age, when

643
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,599
you were you know, my age, I'd like to talk

644
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,039
to you about it.

645
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:49,599
Speaker 2: Few things.

646
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: The way you handled certain things.

647
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: Well, the louder, the loudest person wins the room, and

648
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:57,240
I think the commons person could potentially win the future.

649
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,000
You win the future because you're probably going to be

650
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,799
heard and regularly. But it is we pay attention to

651
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:04,720
the cartoon character.

652
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: This is what we did, and that's the distraction. I

653
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,960
think it is a little bit. And I don't know

654
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,400
that it's an intentional distraction. I don't think it. I

655
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:12,759
don't know.

656
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, but Jesus, but the cartoon character can

657
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,720
come through though. Like remember that episode of the Office

658
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,880
where Michael Scott all of a sudden, they're all at

659
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,400
these meetings in New York and they're handing out per

660
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,039
diems and Mikelake, you know, he doesn't he they're all

661
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,319
in meetings and he's just screwing off having parties in

662
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,680
his room, and then out of nowhere, he closes a

663
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,720
dealer with another paper company. They're like, oh, wow, we undermasturbated.

664
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:37,039
Speaker 2: You guess maybe you should estimate me.

665
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: You know, It's it's weird because when that guy's in

666
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,759
charge and getting stuff done, you're like, you'll put up

667
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,359
with the cartoon type of stuff that goes on.

668
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there is there is certainly an argument

669
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,400
to be made for that.

670
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: But I saw some maga people today going uh oh,

671
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:58,160
and I'm like, over Pompambondi and I'm like, okay, well

672
00:30:58,279 --> 00:30:59,279
have you been paying attention.

673
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it is a weird thing when we start

674
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:07,839
as adults just hurdling insults like that. I mean, it

675
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,240
can be funny and it can be stuff, but when

676
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,559
we start, you know, every every single thing that flies

677
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,079
in the face, it's it's not even deflected as much

678
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:19,759
as it's just it's just shit on.

679
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: There's not even shut down. It is shit on.

680
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: And that's not an argument because anybody can do that.

681
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Give me some kind of substance here, And I think

682
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,559
that's becoming a bigger issue.

683
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,759
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.

684
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 4: Will usually wins, like I really do think at least

685
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,799
you win the future, right, you win the future. And

686
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,799
I wish we could get back to cooler heads and

687
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,440
actually have some dialogue in any because I think this

688
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:50,599
is across the board for so many take politics out

689
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,119
of it. Politics, of course, is the first thing that's

690
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,839
going to pop in. Everybody said, because everything is going

691
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,440
to become a political thing. But on any issue, you

692
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,279
just wish that it would, and it does make me

693
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:02,880
wonder when I look at this and go if the

694
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,039
leaders are doing it and we see it more, could

695
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:08,680
the person be right about Richard Nixon normalizing line.

696
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

697
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, but we will will take a moment.

698
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,559
I have an interesting I haven't watched much.

699
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:17,079
Speaker 2: Of the Olympics. I haven't either.

700
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to. I enjoy like some of the stuff.

701
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,359
The skiing I could get into and then I used

702
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:24,160
to love watching.

703
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:26,839
Speaker 2: Although I got to tell you, as much as I

704
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,279
love to go fast, I don't think i'd like bob sledding. No,

705
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:34,200
I'm not sure that I would like bob sledding because

706
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,480
I don't know that I'm in control that I think

707
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240
that's just a whole lot of gravity and going fucking fast.

708
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,759
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything I'm doing other than

709
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:45,359
talking and praying. You know what I mean, at least,

710
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:48,279
whether it's whether it's a placebo or not.

711
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,559
Speaker 2: I got a brake pedal at a steering wheel. I

712
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,440
think I got a little more control. I saw like

713
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,359
I was watching from a guy's view, and I go,

714
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,079
I'm not sure I want to get tossed around and

715
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,640
not know that I can kind of, you know, slow

716
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,079
into a turn, fast out of a turn. Yeah, I

717
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,759
mean you go away up a fucking wall.

718
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: I don't know you're driving, but you ain't got no wheels,

719
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:12,759
there's no gas pedal, there's no break, and I don't.

720
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:14,519
Speaker 2: Know that you're I guess you're serting. But it looks

721
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,960
like it stays on the track itself. Yes, so it's

722
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,400
really bad.

723
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,319
Speaker 3: I watch Cool Runnings Bill and apparently the driver is

724
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,319
it has to do all the work.

725
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: Everybody else just has to go. He does drive. Yeah,

726
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:24,599
is there pedals in there?

727
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:26,599
Speaker 3: I don't know if. I don't know if there's pedals,

728
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:27,839
but like there's I think.

729
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,319
Speaker 4: There was still there is okay, but maybe I take

730
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,839
it back. But what I'm thinking is I thought, or

731
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,240
maybe it's de loge this. You're laying plasted dude on

732
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,720
the sledge. Oh yeah that yeah, I mean that is

733
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:41,480
like I feel like you have no control.

734
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: And even the.

735
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,759
Speaker 4: Bob sled, I felt like it was a lot of

736
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,440
body weight shifting, like you needed to shift your weight. Yes,

737
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,640
and if I'm doing that, I want to be in

738
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,759
a in a one man bob sled, not a two

739
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:57,240
man bob slip because I will blame him for it

740
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:59,519
is if we roll over, even.

741
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: If it was my what do you mean you a fat?

742
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:02,599
Ask you shift and I tell you not?

743
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,359
Speaker 3: Pharsa walker, and I for when he's going through his personalities.

744
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,279
He wanted to be a bob sledter or was it

745
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:09,000
ninety eight, I don't remember. He was trying to be

746
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:11,320
a bob sledter because he couldn't he couldn't get in

747
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,320
the sled fast enough. Oh, he never made the team.

748
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,360
He couldn't get in the sled.

749
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean, certainly big, he gets speed, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

750
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,159
his thighs are probably way too big, too muscular.

751
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,079
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

752
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: Uh, well, something happened at the Olympics that transcends the Olympics,

753
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,559
and we will get to it right after this. Ever,

754
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:34,480
look at your wall and think, hmm, that hole definitely

755
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,480
wasn't there yesterday, Or maybe your fawcet's got a drip

756
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:44,440
that's slowly driving you into madness. That's when he got

757
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,559
to call my buddies at Mac of All Trades, Because

758
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,920
it's your home and if you don't have the skills

759
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,599
to fix it yourself, go to the people who do

760
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:56,519
and trust me. There's nobody better than Mac of All Trades.

761
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,000
They do everything leaky Fawcett, they got it. Drafty windows

762
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,280
and doors done, electrical plumbing, carpentry sure, full kitchen or

763
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,599
bathroom model, Oh yeah, they'll do that too. From patching

764
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:12,639
the hole that someone made by definitely not slamming the door,

765
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,320
to transforming your entire space. Mack of All Trades gets

766
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,480
it done quickly and the right way. Stop putting up

767
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,280
with cold drafts and half finished to do list. Give

768
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,559
them a call at five eight five to zero two

769
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,719
ninety two eighteen, or find them online at Macofalltrades dot net.

770
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,159
Get started on that to do list today, Mac of

771
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:50,880
All Trades. No job too small. You don't know who

772
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,480
it is you wellness.

773
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,679
Speaker 5: Second, I love.

774
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 10: The songs you shut You said, why.

775
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,159
Speaker 5: Did you knew with him today?

776
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 10: And snub me out like I was saying, because you're

777
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:19,079
my fellow, my God, have me your fellow in fly

778
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,239
five time I'm out.

779
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 5: The door, your tam Man down, li Rod. I see

780
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:38,760
him myself like I knew, I will lie. Have I

781
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,880
told you I was trouble? You know?

782
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: Let im know over. I wish they would bring this

783
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,440
back the style of pop music. Somebody probably will. Somebody

784
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,239
probably will. She did a great job.

785
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: She was she was a musical genius. She was talented.

786
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,480
She could play instruments and she could write. Yeah, but

787
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,320
unfortunately it was trouble. Yeah, she was troubled well, twenty

788
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,000
seven club Speaking of the twenty seven clubs, do you

789
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,960
hear the Kirk Cobain story?

790
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,679
Speaker 2: No, I knew Vanderbeek died today. Yeah, he did forty eight. Yes,

791
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:16,960
stage three.

792
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: I know my father had Stage four. He lasted four years.

793
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,199
Speaker 2: Well, stage three when they found it.

794
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,079
Speaker 3: I don't know if my father was stage four when

795
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,440
they found it. Yeah, fantasticized to his liver. Okay, so

796
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,360
that's why I was like, oh, yeah, I don't know.

797
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,360
And then Brad Arnold from three doors down just died

798
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,400
of colon cancer too.

799
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

800
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,119
Speaker 4: It's a weird thing because I have I'm due for

801
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,159
a colonoscopy and I went in for the accidental physical.

802
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:44,199
Speaker 2: I told you about that. Yes, yeah, how many drinks

803
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:44,800
you're having a week?

804
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I said, and again I goes, you're overdue,

805
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,800
bah bah. I get a text message they don't even

806
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,119
call you anymore. Hey, we have an opening Thursday at

807
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:58,000
three o'clock to poke your act Like I'm thinking, I go, cli, well,

808
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,760
I couldn't tell if it was spam. Wept saying you

809
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,559
have are at the top, and I'm going, what is

810
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,920
so I had to say no because I got fishery stuff.

811
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:09,880
I have fisher But I'm like, that's a little scary though.

812
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,519
Was that quick?

813
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:12,679
Speaker 2: And they don't even call you anymore, like at least

814
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:14,840
when you used to, when you used to be you

815
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,280
could say not that day? What else do you have? Right?

816
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,880
And I got a human there now it's like it's right, yeah, Wren.

817
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,400
And I'm like I was weird. It's just the world

818
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,400
we're in. Yeah. Whatever.

819
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: But like with the cobaine thing. Yeah, And there's a

820
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,440
bit off detected named Tom Grant for years who has

821
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,239
maintained that this was a homicide. This was not a suicide.

822
00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:40,119
Nobody in Seattle believed him. People tried to throw him

823
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:43,239
off the scent. The police departments always argued, no, he

824
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,119
doesn't know what he's talking about. Really, Well, an independent

825
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:49,599
group came in and studied the evidence and have determined

826
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,679
that yes, this was in fact a homicide.

827
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: Really yes, really, So what did Courtney Love do? That's

828
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,000
what everybody's waiting.

829
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:04,039
Speaker 3: For hard to prove now right, Well yeah, now, but

830
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:09,119
I mean there's no statute of limitations on the biggest

831
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:10,920
thing was he can't approve it, they said. But the

832
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,320
big thing was there was ten times the amount of

833
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,159
heroin that would kill somebody. Oh in somebody, even a

834
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:17,199
heroin addict.

835
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: Wouldn't do that, wouldn't do that. But I thought he'd

836
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,880
died of a self afflicted gunshot.

837
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: But his shoes were on. If you're going to shoot

838
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,519
a gun shot, you're gonna use a shot gun, you're

839
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:27,000
gonna take your shoe and your sock off and use

840
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,960
your big toe to like pull the trigger. He had

841
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,920
too much heroin in the system to even stand up,

842
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,760
let alone do that. And they found the shellcasing where

843
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,039
they found the gun, the shellcasing, it's going to be

844
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:36,920
in a certain vicinity.

845
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah it wasn't.

846
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: That was the first to get tipped off Tom Grant,

847
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,360
And for years nobody wanted to take him seriously. There's

848
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,480
a documentary called Soaked and Bleach about it. Well, now

849
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:48,159
an independent group has come in and investigated said, oh,

850
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,119
this was a homicide.

851
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: Say this for thirty years, Bill, Wow, and you believed it.

852
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:56,159
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I don't know.

853
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,639
Speaker 3: I mean I was a little when I was a

854
00:39:57,679 --> 00:39:59,840
little I was fourteen when I'm like, well, this suicide.

855
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,679
But they ruled in a suicide immediately.

856
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. I was like, wow, that's quick. He

857
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,599
was fourteen years old.

858
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, that's really fast.

859
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: Well, I would think that you would walk in and

860
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:08,840
know it's a suicide.

861
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: Nobody else is around, there's a note, there's blood, it

862
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:14,000
looks like the gun was in his mouth, and that's

863
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,039
what I would, you know, And I would go maybe

864
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,400
what he did was like have it where he could

865
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:21,519
kick a door and the door pulled the trigger. I

866
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,559
don't know, you know what I'm saying, like somehow, you mean,

867
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,079
and that's why the shoes.

868
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,679
Speaker 3: Were but the between the wound and everything else that happened,

869
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,000
there's certain ways that if you're alive, that your blood

870
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,559
will spill. They said this was the cleanest suicide they've

871
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:40,280
ever seen. Suicides are a messy crime scene.

872
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: I can't read all that stuff. I know, it's hard.

873
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: I just Chris Cornell, it's like all a suddeny rulled

874
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,679
Oh yeah, tell you it's a it was a suicide.

875
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,360
Usually it takes about six weeks for them to figure

876
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,159
out what's going on. So people are starting to wonder, Okay,

877
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:52,880
who's in on this?

878
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,679
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to go there, No,

879
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:56,840
let us not.

880
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,159
Speaker 4: I want to go back to the song we just heard,

881
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:01,840
which is about you, and she's admitting to cheating in

882
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,440
that song, right, and I will ask when have you

883
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,559
messed up?

884
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: And everyone knew?

885
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,199
Speaker 4: And I don't even mean necessarily romantically, but you've messed

886
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,039
up and everyone knows. And just think about that first,

887
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:17,800
like I don't even have to say anything. And then

888
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,280
I want you to imagine winning the bronze medal and

889
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:27,440
calling it the worst week of your life, because that

890
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:39,639
is exactly what happened for an Olympic Nordic skier out

891
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:45,559
of Norway. He wins the bronze and breaks down, crying

892
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,360
and saying that he feels like he lost the gold

893
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,960
medal of life with this woman that he loved and

894
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:59,800
he cheated on her. And he's saying this now and

895
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:01,280
national television through tears.

896
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 3: So he just basically melted down. Yeah, and from what

897
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,079
I can gather, a cathartic sad state.

898
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: From what I can gather, he cheated and then admitted

899
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,039
it to her a while ago.

900
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: That's what I was gathering in one story, and she

901
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:23,440
knew he had already confessed privately. But now he goes

902
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:28,800
on it's national TV in Norway and admits it, and

903
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,599
so now everyone knows. So here, So now they're at

904
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:37,360
the it's after the race. The winners go up, kind

905
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,679
of like uh PGA, when they, you know, the golfers finished.

906
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:43,039
They come up and they sit at a dais and

907
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,719
they get asked questions. And this is what happened at

908
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,239
the Olympics.

909
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: Listen to this. It's a it's a pretty good.

910
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,199
Speaker 9: You talked in the mixed shown about about meeting your

911
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,480
love of your life and cheating on her.

912
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 2: But how do you feel about it right now? Do

913
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,400
you think it was the right choice? Hard?

914
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, if it's the right choice or not, but it

915
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,719
was the choice I made. We make different choices during

916
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,519
our life, and that's how you make life basically. So

917
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,400
today I made the choice to tell the world what

918
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:23,559
I did. So maybe maybe there's a chance that she

919
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:30,880
will see what she really means to me, and maybe not,

920
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:35,480
but I don't want to think I didn't try everything

921
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:40,239
to get her back. So yeah again you want I

922
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,639
don't want to steal the show today. I hope, I

923
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,960
hope this is just like a day or two long

924
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,199
thing and then then your Olympic medalist forever.

925
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: First, what I have to say this a completely off

926
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:55,119
topic on this.

927
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,679
Speaker 4: The fact that you can answer such a question in

928
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,079
a language that is not your native language is so

929
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,679
impressive to me, right, especially in English, and English is

930
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,079
being spoken like I didn't realize that you have to

931
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,320
speak English in every cockpit around the around the world,

932
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:14,960
not the country, the world. It's called aviation English, and

933
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,800
they try to teach that to all the crew members

934
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,039
of every flight around the world. So English is kind

935
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:25,360
of becoming the international language. But I'm like, that's where

936
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,280
when he goes, that is uh, that's his life, it's

937
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,079
it's life. Uh yeah, because I go I don't know

938
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:31,440
what else.

939
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know. Can you come up with a

940
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:35,280
word that quickly? They always say, you.

941
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,679
Speaker 4: Know another language well enough when you dream in it.

942
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,800
I've never dreamt in another language. I've never dreamt an Italian?

943
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you? But can you speak it?

944
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:44,199
Speaker 9: No?

945
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 4: Okay, but it was spoken around you, Yes, often you

946
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,199
could occasion and you when you were a kid, Yeah,

947
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,320
and you could understand it. Not really Okay, all right,

948
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,559
I don't know. I'm just saying, like, to me, that's

949
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:56,360
that's impressive.

950
00:44:56,559 --> 00:44:57,079
Speaker 2: Impressive.

951
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: But here's I don't know. I don't I don't know

952
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:05,159
how I would feel if that were me. I don't

953
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,719
know how I would feel if I did it and

954
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,920
told I don't know. It's excep to me. This isn't

955
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,239
about cheating. It's about the confession the cheating, and I go,

956
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,960
people usually do it out of guilt.

957
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,039
Speaker 3: Well, was he caught before he admitted it?

958
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he was caught.

959
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: I think he just it was weighing on him so

960
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:29,840
much that he said to her, I have to tell

961
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,280
you about something, you know.

962
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he couldn't just tell her, he had to tell

963
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:34,280
the world.

964
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: Well, he told her and then he and and I

965
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:39,000
think he hadn't heard from her after that. And I

966
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:42,239
think in the latest article she said that it's uh,

967
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:44,119
it's a very hard thing to get over.

968
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 3: That's why he was he was like trying to like

969
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:46,679
reach out.

970
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: I think he's reaching out, you know, is it me

971
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:52,320
you're looking for?

972
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,079
Speaker 3: But that's a terrible Norwegian.

973
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's like I can't live with the weight anymore.

974
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,480
Like sometimes you'll heart's take it away from that murders,

975
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,519
Like somebody just goes, I can't take it anymore, all right.

976
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:12,199
You just carried around that guilt and after so many years,

977
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:16,079
you know, or I think I remember seeing somebody saying

978
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,559
after they were caught after thirty five years on the

979
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,079
run or thirty five years, I don't even know if

980
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:23,360
they were on the run. They were probably in the

981
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,039
same vicinity, but no one could pin it to that person.

982
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,079
And when they did, through more or better technology as

983
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:33,920
it was developed, the person goes, I feel somewhat relieved

984
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,960
because I've been carrying this around for so long that

985
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,920
I was like, that's weird thing to say.

986
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: But Matt, maybe, yeah, I could see that psychotagy and

987
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,400
plays different games with different people. I get pretty messed

988
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,960
up to do something like that, of course, So I mean,

989
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,280
I'm not surprised by the psychology of relief. I mean

990
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,800
it's it's almost like it's kind of strange to us

991
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,239
because we're thinking logically. But I mean, I remember Ron

992
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,679
Washington was the manager of the Texas Rangers, brought them

993
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,000
to the World Series Back to back gears. They lost both.

994
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,920
In fact, they had a lot of Buffalo Bills jokes

995
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,760
because they were actually like a one hour away from

996
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000
winning it one year. And then he decides to call

997
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:08,960
a press conference on a Thursday afternoon to announced that

998
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,840
he was cheating on his wife.

999
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: Well, I round a third and slid home, but not

1000
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:14,360
with her.

1001
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: It's like, holy cow, serious, seriously, dude, I mean, like

1002
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:19,000
what he really did.

1003
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all kind.

1004
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: Of like, you know, like Sports World was like that

1005
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,719
was awkward. Why do we need to know about it?

1006
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Right?

1007
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 4: Because it's like I can't keep continuing a lie or

1008
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,599
or I'll say this letterman was great with this. I

1009
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,000
control the narrative, Yes, right now, Dave was coming out

1010
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,320
ahead of it and probably spoke to his wife, right,

1011
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,519
but might have been forced to speak to his wife

1012
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:44,920
because I think this stuff had gone on. He was

1013
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,119
trying to be they were going to extort him, which

1014
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:48,840
somebody was going to try to extort him exactly with

1015
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,559
video or whatever. And so he came out and he

1016
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,199
confessed it. And it is the idea of if I

1017
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,360
tell it first, I control the narrative. I'm not sure

1018
00:47:57,519 --> 00:47:59,679
that in the manager's case. I wonder if this other

1019
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:02,360
woman goes either you say something or I'm saying something.

1020
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so maybe hey, you don't know they got.

1021
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:10,039
Speaker 3: Up next top tens. Apologies to my wife for cheating.

1022
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if this was Richard Nixon or Gerald

1023
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,320
Ford or I maybe I have the wrong president altogether.

1024
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:18,360
I think because my father used to quote it all

1025
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,800
the time. When they have you buy the balls, your

1026
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,920
heart and mind will follow, you know what I mean.

1027
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,920
And that's that's that's.

1028
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,159
Speaker 2: Kind of it.

1029
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: You know, there is argument though, to not say anything

1030
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,039
yea in these situations. I mean, it just is like,

1031
00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:36,320
even if you carry tremendous skill, right and that that's

1032
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,800
a you thing. And sometimes I think it's almost selfish

1033
00:48:40,159 --> 00:48:40,880
to then admit it.

1034
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: Oh I made this terrible mistake. Oh fuck you. You

1035
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:47,719
know what I mean, A fuck you. I'm sorry for yourself, yes,

1036
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,559
and it's this big So then so then what you

1037
00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:53,320
get to you know, that was really brave. You stood

1038
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,119
up there, you were a brave Yeah, you know it

1039
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:55,519
was brave.

1040
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:57,559
Speaker 4: Is when you had your fucking pants down, you're dick

1041
00:48:57,639 --> 00:48:59,199
buried and somebody that wasn't your wife.

1042
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: And I don't think this guy, by the way, is married.

1043
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:04,159
I don't think that's the case.

1044
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 4: But and look, sometimes a confession could traumatize.

1045
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,519
Speaker 2: A lot of people.

1046
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:16,039
Speaker 4: Right if you were married and have children and then

1047
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,320
you went and had an affair and they find out,

1048
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,199
you could have a really rough relationship forever there. If

1049
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,480
you have a daughter, you could have this whole trust

1050
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:25,079
issue with.

1051
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: Men after that.

1052
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,519
Speaker 4: There's all kinds of I mean, there's real shit that

1053
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:30,880
can come out of that. So that you may keep

1054
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,079
your mouth shut, and I don't know, it kind of

1055
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,440
shifts the emotional.

1056
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Burden a little bit.

1057
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: Too, because you know, it's not so much on you

1058
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:43,719
now now it's on the person who you fucked over.

1059
00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:46,880
Oh it's selfish relief.

1060
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: I think sometimes I wonder where the manipulation came into,

1061
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:52,760
or if manipulation came in as a factor for him

1062
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,280
to have to admit this, or.

1063
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:57,559
Speaker 2: Well somebody saying it. I think he was just look,

1064
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:00,519
these guys do these It was a twenty ca So

1065
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,360
give me, what's that? A marathon on skis?

1066
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, it looks hard as hell, and these guys

1067
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,960
make it look so right, right, like the one guy

1068
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,280
who went up the hill and went viral.

1069
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:10,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, just fucking like those yellow blades.

1070
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no big deal.

1071
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:15,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember see on my Nordic track from the nineties.

1072
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: There is a lot of school schools in our area

1073
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:22,400
have Nordic ski teams and they you can join and

1074
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:24,760
you can go up to the top of Bristol Mountain

1075
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:27,239
and it's a circle and they have races up there

1076
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,480
and stuff. And I think you can get a season pass,

1077
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:32,679
like get a season passed for downhill and you're talking

1078
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,400
I don't even somewhere. Probably five, not that many, but

1079
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,360
depends if you get your family. It's gonna cost you

1080
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,840
a lot. It's fifty bucks for a season ticket at

1081
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,280
the tower.

1082
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:44,639
Speaker 9: It was.

1083
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 4: It was yeah, because my neighbor, who was a professional

1084
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,159
cyclist in the winter, he would go up and do

1085
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:50,840
that kind of skiing.

1086
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can't.

1087
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 2: I'd be cross country skiing and he'd be laughing me. Yeah,

1088
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,320
he'd be I want the fucking dude. That is a dude.

1089
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,519
Speaker 4: That is a workout. So now you're exhausted. You come

1090
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:04,719
through and the whole thing on your mind is you

1091
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,239
cheated on your girlfriend. You told her she sent you

1092
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,000
to the Olympics. She was probably gonna come with you

1093
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:10,840
and cheer you on. Be ringing the cow bell or

1094
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,360
whatever they.

1095
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,079
Speaker 2: Do there and she's not there moment without her.

1096
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:16,159
Speaker 3: You got a picture because you pictured this whole thing.

1097
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:16,679
Speaker 4: Got it?

1098
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: Visualize winning, visualize you got it, Dan, Visualize yourself on

1099
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:23,880
the metal stand bronze medal because you're a Bills fanc

1100
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,039
You're never gonna get the gold.

1101
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at least you get something that's from the Olympics.

1102
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 5: You get up there.

1103
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 4: It's like I would always say this, I'd never want

1104
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,079
to win silver. I never want to win silver because

1105
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:36,119
it means I was second best.

1106
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: I just like, just like, hey man, bronzot even if

1107
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,079
I like I tweaked a muscle, I was projected to

1108
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:48,199
be the runaway gold. I tweaked my fucking hammy coming

1109
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,960
around you know, the third turn or whatever. That was

1110
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,519
more of a racing.

1111
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: Well, did you wear the Dream Team in ninety two? Yes,

1112
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:55,840
So when they won the gold, Croatia won the silver,

1113
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,760
and Lithuania won the bronze. Lithuania, lithuan me and basketball

1114
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,280
team were outfitted with tied I T shirts from The

1115
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,280
Grateful Dead, and those dudes look like, man, we're just

1116
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,519
happy to be here. TUSA. They're high five of the

1117
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:11,840
Louith the way he hits. They're taking pictures at Croatia

1118
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:16,079
is standing there like we had no shot? Yeah, none,

1119
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,639
and then draw not draw some Petrovitch but I think

1120
00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:21,119
it was Tony Kukach said, well, we do United States.

1121
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: This is like winning gold.

1122
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: But he didn't say it with a little smile on

1123
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,559
his face. He was like, we couldn't beat these guys,

1124
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,679
which they had no shot, of course, but like you're

1125
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,920
right like first and third here, like you know, but second, oh,

1126
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,360
forget it.

1127
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,039
Speaker 2: I always I did. I always thought that I'd go.

1128
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: You never want to be the second because it meant

1129
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,440
you you're usually right in them running there, I mean, impressive,

1130
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:43,679
impressive as hell, but let's just get really just on

1131
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,079
the level I would go, I'd rather slow down and

1132
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,039
another guy gets the silver. Yeah, maybe I'm in danger

1133
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,280
of not even making the podium, but I want I

1134
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,320
would rather the bronze.

1135
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,199
Speaker 2: I don't know why, just.

1136
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,559
Speaker 3: You're the Nancy Carrigan. I got it there unless somebody

1137
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:00,559
hit my knee first, then it looks like an accomplishment.

1138
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,239
But yeah, you want to talk about a situation where

1139
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,239
everybody knows you screwed up?

1140
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 2: Did you see?

1141
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,199
Speaker 3: Will was it Will Campbell, the the left tackle with

1142
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,760
the New England Patriots. He had a lot he had

1143
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,880
rough playoffs, and he had a horrible Super Bowl. So

1144
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:18,360
after the Super Bowl, whether they like it or not,

1145
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,519
after games, you got to talk to the media, and

1146
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:22,880
he blew them off. Yeah, and he got a lot

1147
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,360
of crap for that. So it's almost like he doubled

1148
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,960
down on his pain. And so he apologized on Monday,

1149
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,599
and he's got tears in his eyes for not talking

1150
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:31,440
to anybody. But it's like the fact that he didn't

1151
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:33,480
talk actually made it worse.

1152
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the game. It was a terrible game.

1153
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,480
But you don't want to I don't know. You gotta

1154
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:41,679
face the music, and it sucks. It sucks.

1155
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 3: And he's twenty two to twenty three years old.

1156
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: He's a young kid, and in that situation.

1157
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: I know what it's like to be that age and

1158
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,440
screw up and sure, but you know, like I've had,

1159
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,199
like I remember kinda yelled at radio at that age

1160
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,039
and much older. But you gotta face the music. You

1161
00:53:56,119 --> 00:53:57,360
got you gotta face the music.

1162
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:57,599
Speaker 2: Man.

1163
00:53:57,639 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: You gotta grow up. You got you get. You make

1164
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:01,760
a lot of money here. No one's feeling bad for that.

1165
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 4: That's right, Danny. We were giving you a behavioral change

1166
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,280
over time. That's what you were looking for, behavioral change.

1167
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: I don't tell you people now.

1168
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: The break group is a great trading ground for growing up,

1169
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,679
even if it was twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine,

1170
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,679
thirty thirty one, thirty two.

1171
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: Thirty three.

1172
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of couples who survived affairs, and

1173
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,519
I know one or two. Oh, I know if you

1174
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,119
that survived affairs? Yes, yeah, did they ever? I would

1175
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:27,000
love to know they turned to christ I'm not joking, okay.

1176
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's usually when a lot of guys

1177
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,159
do well. You want because you don't want to lose

1178
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:34,400
half your shit and your kids.

1179
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:38,079
Speaker 3: Well in divorce, Let's be honest, the man's good the

1180
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,199
most to lose. That's why most men are not most men,

1181
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,159
A lot of guys are now just like, I'm not

1182
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:42,519
doing it.

1183
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:44,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not doing it.

1184
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 3: I have the most to lose. You have nothing to lose.

1185
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,480
Why would I risk at all?

1186
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: Well, I think too, if you're gonna stay with somebody,

1187
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,079
there's a difference between regret regret. As I got caught,

1188
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,679
I wish I didn't. Remorse is I'm truly sorry.

1189
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: I heard you. You know what I mean. Yeah, there

1190
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,880
is a difference there, and you got to be able

1191
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,840
to know the difference and.

1192
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: Know how there's a thin line, but you got to

1193
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:05,199
know it.

1194
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 4: But the thing that I'm kinda spins in my head

1195
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,880
about this one is you admit it on national TV

1196
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,079
in your country. Now, there's a good chance that if

1197
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:22,000
something like that happens, the people closest to her are aware.

1198
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,360
I will tell you that had I ever done anything

1199
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,559
like this, you think I'm telling margin Bill, No, Okay,

1200
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:31,519
stick a microphone in my face, and now they know.

1201
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I talked a lot of

1202
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,559
shit on the radio, But they didn't live in the town,

1203
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,840
you know for streaming, right, This is this is the

1204
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,039
national stuff. You know. Yeah, your your co workers know,

1205
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,199
Her friends know, her cousin knows, her aunt, her big

1206
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,639
mouth grandmother, everybody in that fucking family knows. They all know,

1207
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,960
and they all think you're a piece of shit. That's

1208
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,599
what I got. Some of those may be crazy and

1209
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:55,440
reach out to the girl he did it with. Well,

1210
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,440
that could be future children if you if you are,

1211
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,599
I'm saying I didn't think of that. Dies on the

1212
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:06,760
internet future children. Well no, now you weren't married.

1213
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: Right, so wasn't in that country song before Mama was mama?

1214
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:13,039
And those guys dug up all that stuff about their mom.

1215
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: Oh, guy, I got was mom. I'm gonna have to

1216
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,440
dig that up. So that's where I go.

1217
00:56:17,679 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 8: Was that.

1218
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: I know a lot of mobs who were who weren't

1219
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:27,159
exactly the mom they are now. My mom was a saint,

1220
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,039
I'm sure. Oh she was real. I've done the homework.

1221
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,519
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I have it. But it's Silver Creek. I

1222
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:37,159
mean that's a small town, so the secrets could die

1223
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,639
there though too. Yeah, and I was taking this one

1224
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:42,800
of the grave with me, but I just can't your mom.

1225
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 3: My mother couldn't even drive until she married my father.

1226
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,840
They taught her how to drive. But yeah, do you

1227
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,400
know that song father figured by George Michael. Yes, that's

1228
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,079
my parents. My father really like was kind of a

1229
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:57,199
father figure to my mother because they were like nine

1230
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,719
years apart, and her father was kind of an absentee.

1231
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: Dad, you open your mouth today, it's getting creepier and

1232
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,000
creepier with that family.

1233
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: He was loud. It's what he did. I want to

1234
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,960
go back and tell what were you doing?

1235
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:10,639
Speaker 3: I swear a three years old, I knew I was

1236
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:12,599
never gonna wear a tie, yeah, wear a suit, Yeah,

1237
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:13,800
I was never gonna grow a mustache.

1238
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was never gonna be mean. Okay, not that

1239
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:17,199
he was mean, he was just loud. I didn't know

1240
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:22,360
any better. I'm trying to public shaming does it purify?

1241
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,320
You've just shamed yourself, like if other people did it

1242
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:25,760
to you.

1243
00:57:26,239 --> 00:57:28,679
Speaker 4: The scarlet letter was public shaming, right, you were the

1244
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,400
prostitutor whatever, you already had a kid out of adultery,

1245
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,760
whatever that was. Uh, I don't because I always feel

1246
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,760
like it's a weird thing. This year, twenty twenty six

1247
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,719
is a little bit of a weirder, weirder year than

1248
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:44,079
I thought.

1249
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:50,039
Speaker 2: Not a bad year, not everything, but I feel like everything.

1250
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty six at some point is content. Go

1251
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:55,320
back to the thing we talked about in the beginning, right,

1252
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:58,880
the argument and how I just said, you're going for

1253
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,800
the viral clip. It's it's about winning the crowd. That's

1254
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,880
not It's not about winning the argument. It's about winning

1255
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,159
the crowd. The com person wins the argument. And you know,

1256
00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:10,599
the Pambondi thing wasn't really about an issue. She just

1257
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:12,519
felt like, you're not gonna shut me down, you know,

1258
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:15,360
And it's a powerful I am, it's a powerful I

1259
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,119
get that.

1260
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: Even though everything on Capitol Hill really is just kabookie theater.

1261
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I just feels like everything is content.

1262
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:27,960
So if you're gonna do a live confession, now it's everywhere.

1263
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:29,199
Speaker 2: This is a guy from Norway.

1264
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: It was just using normal and he was a bronze

1265
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,960
medallist who we don't forget otherwise.

1266
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: You got it. He was in the gold.

1267
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:36,679
Speaker 3: He didn't get hitting the knee with a with a

1268
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,239
freaking tire iron like Nancy Carriet. Oh no, no, no, no, no,

1269
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,320
he didn't lose four straight Super Bowls. No, this is

1270
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,639
a there's a Brod's medallist.

1271
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: I just think I don't know, man, because almost everybody

1272
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,440
has hurt someone not and I'm not even saying through cheating, but.

1273
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: Has hurt some one. Yeah right.

1274
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: Everybody I believe has hidden something something, Maybe not forever,

1275
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:10,360
but you hit something for a long time, you had

1276
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,159
a secret, maybe you're holding one now, maybe you're holding

1277
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,480
a secret whatever.

1278
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:17,559
Speaker 2: I think everybody has debated telling the truth. Do I

1279
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:19,920
say this? Do I not say this what happens if

1280
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,320
I do? What if happens if I don't?

1281
00:59:21,639 --> 00:59:24,599
Speaker 4: How many times I'm sure there's a plus minus column

1282
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:26,119
on a lot of things, you know what I mean?

1283
00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

1284
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:34,679
Speaker 4: You sometimes wonder and and I always thought, like a

1285
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,679
little bit not so much this because can he come

1286
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:39,639
back from a mistake, Like I'm trying to think of

1287
00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:45,159
people who did have legitimate comebacks from mistakes President Clinton?

1288
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean if they let's put it

1289
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:51,400
this way, in two two thousand, if he could have

1290
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,920
had a third term, yeah, he would have won, hands

1291
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:55,920
down over George W.

1292
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: Bush.

1293
00:59:56,679 --> 01:00:01,159
Speaker 3: America was doing great, and I remember having great Antser said,

1294
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,039
I don't care who he screws as long as I

1295
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:04,480
get my Social Security check.

1296
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:08,519
Speaker 2: See that was all. See. Now, did he normalize cheating?

1297
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:10,719
You know what I mean? I mean, we could I'm

1298
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,199
just saying.

1299
01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:15,679
Speaker 3: And by the way, because we'll think about it after Kennedy,

1300
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,800
after Kennedy who was messing around on their Wifey.

1301
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 4: Hang on a second, Maybe I had that wrong. Maybe

1302
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,239
it wasn't Nixon, Maybe it was Bill Clinton normalized lying.

1303
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,840
Could be I did not have sex with that woe

1304
01:00:29,079 --> 01:00:30,280
have sexual relations with that?

1305
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:30,679
Speaker 2: Woman.

1306
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I remember going in and chopping out the

1307
01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:36,119
audio and being so proud of myself and leaving it

1308
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,960
for brother. We's who played it?

1309
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: Who did this? Is it great?

1310
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: Because they said, and I had sex with that woman?

1311
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:50,199
Because you know I did not took that did not out. Yeah,

1312
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,199
it's uh.

1313
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: I think it was Clinton that they said normalized lying.

1314
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:55,800
I don't know why I thought Nixon, I.

1315
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: Guess, well, but yeah, because he denied the whole He denied,

1316
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:04,000
and then and then gerald Ford suffered because of it.

1317
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:05,360
That's how we ended up with Carter.

1318
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: Right, But they can't really say that he was aware

1319
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,840
of somebody. Well maybe I don't know.

1320
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 4: I couldn't remember the whole thing, but I think it

1321
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:17,679
was Clinton he did, I mean normalized lying and getting.

1322
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,480
I mean Bjay's must have become really popular. Michael Lewinsky

1323
01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:24,480
was a big Halloween costume.

1324
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh she was. Oh yeah, the dress with the blue

1325
01:01:27,079 --> 01:01:31,079
dress with the stain on it, those shitty wigs.

1326
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 4: Her hair always looked like a wig. It always looked

1327
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,119
like you just wanted to walk up behind her. When

1328
01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:37,840
she was younger, yes, and as she got older. She's

1329
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,199
she's an attractive woman. You know, she's in her forties.

1330
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: She's in her fifties. She looks good.

1331
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, so, but I used to want to just

1332
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,679
go can someone just walk behind her and just kind

1333
01:01:50,719 --> 01:01:51,920
of yink it to the right like.

1334
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:54,039
Speaker 2: It's a wig or something, but it wasn't.

1335
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,679
Speaker 3: No, that's her hair.

1336
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: Well, I'll well end to here. Think about this. The

1337
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,280
medals are breaking. I'm sure you're selling this. Oh yeah,

1338
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,960
many many people's medals are like falling off the things

1339
01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:07,280
that they're on. Oh they're not breaking in half, they're

1340
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,519
coming off the chain or I think they're being dropped.

1341
01:02:10,519 --> 01:02:13,159
I don't know if somebody's chipped or cracked or whatever.

1342
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,480
They're crappily made. Whatever this is I have.

1343
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,079
Speaker 4: And by the way, Italy too, I'm very disappointed by

1344
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:20,760
the Italy. By the way, you're coming out with an

1345
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,960
electric ferrari, for god's sakes, you know, and you can't

1346
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,960
get metals right, You can't get metals right. But they

1347
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:32,199
hired a former designer from Apple to design the inside

1348
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:32,920
of the Ferrari.

1349
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's really really fucking cool.

1350
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has his own company now and doesn't. But

1351
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:41,239
either way, to have that foresight, all the things you've

1352
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,159
built so many years, and I mean.

1353
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,719
Speaker 3: Bought the world how to eat well.

1354
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: And outside of the leaning tower piece, you got. Now

1355
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,599
these shitty metals, I don't come on get together guys.

1356
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,519
But the metal will tarnish, right, yeah they will.

1357
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 4: It's real, and I will say the real podium and

1358
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:59,519
pretty much in life, in your relationship, the real podium

1359
01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:03,000
is true and nobody wants to be standing on that

1360
01:03:03,079 --> 01:03:05,559
one alone. So I don't know what will happen with

1361
01:03:05,639 --> 01:03:08,079
this guy, and we'll have to uh, we'll have to see.

1362
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,159
Speaker 3: It's funny how these guys come into our lives every

1363
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:12,599
four years or every eight years, so just a flash

1364
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:13,280
and then oh yeah I.

1365
01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:15,679
Speaker 2: Remember so yeah, yeah, yeah, Well any ego I always

1366
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:16,880
think of every once in a while. I don't you

1367
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:17,480
remember him?

1368
01:03:17,519 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: He was a I think he was a British ski jumper, okay,

1369
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,159
and like he had no form knowing that I don't

1370
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:27,599
even think he like they just had an open spot

1371
01:03:27,639 --> 01:03:30,559
in the Olympics and I'm not doing anything for the

1372
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:31,320
next couple of days.

1373
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:32,719
Speaker 2: I think that was it.

1374
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,199
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, or like that guy the Greek shooter,

1375
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:40,719
like the yeah, we just walked in no glasses. Yeah

1376
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:45,239
we're Bonnie Blair. She won the ninety two. Yeah, in Albertville,

1377
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,000
she won the gold. She had all these commercials like

1378
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,559
who is this? But America had not won a gold

1379
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:52,239
Like for the first week, I was like, oh, body Blair,

1380
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,079
who I misspoke?

1381
01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the words I just said. Truth is

1382
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:00,559
not the real podium anyway, relationship.

1383
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 4: Trust is the real podium in your relationship, and you

1384
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,960
don't want to stand on trust alone because if the

1385
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,360
other person doesn't trust.

1386
01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:12,159
Speaker 2: You, you're up there by yourself. Yeah, there's no trust,

1387
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,719
I say truth trust.

1388
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:19,079
Speaker 4: I was getting my words mixed up, and I'm very

1389
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:21,800
five letters t r U doesn't matter.

1390
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:22,679
Speaker 2: I screwed it up.

1391
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 3: We got four to five letters right. That should be

1392
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,039
the lesson. You get one letter wrong and we can't

1393
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:29,440
trust you.

1394
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: Okay, Well there you go, you can't trust me. We'll

1395
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,199
take a moment. This weekend is a big weekend, and

1396
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,880
I think we have to help guys out. It's Valentine's weekend.

1397
01:04:40,119 --> 01:04:42,119
But what I'm going to talk about shouldn't be It's

1398
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:45,159
not exclusive to that. But I mean as a man

1399
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,199
who has failed many, many, many times, and we'll probably

1400
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:53,639
I think I think many many times have I failed?

1401
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:55,679
And I'm sure, I have more failures yet to come,

1402
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,320
but I think there's a big difference between effort and intention, gentlemen,

1403
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,800
big difference, Oh, effort and intention.

1404
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:07,639
Speaker 2: Get to that right after this.

1405
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,039
Speaker 4: If the new year has you saying I did not

1406
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:13,199
sign up for this, like a worker's comp case, social

1407
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:17,400
security disability, or a personal injury claim, don't try to

1408
01:05:17,559 --> 01:05:19,079
google lawyer your way through it.

1409
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: Go to Connors and Ferris.

1410
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,039
Speaker 4: They have offices in Buffalo, New York City, Syracuse, and Rochester,

1411
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,480
and they'll get back.

1412
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,039
Speaker 2: To you within twenty four hours. Yeah, so even when

1413
01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:33,960
you're stress scrolling at two am, you can call two

1414
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,440
six to two COMP, tell them a little bit about

1415
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,480
what's going on in your life, and within twenty four

1416
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:41,039
hours one of their attorneys will get back to you.

1417
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,360
You'll talk to real lawyers who.

1418
01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:47,239
Speaker 4: Will explain things in plain English, not legal mumbo jumbo.

1419
01:05:47,719 --> 01:05:54,079
Workers comp, social security disability, personal injury complicated. Absolutely something

1420
01:05:54,119 --> 01:05:59,559
you should handle alone. Nope, Connors and Ferris experienced, responsive

1421
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:02,920
and admitted to serving you better. Called two six two

1422
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,840
COMP helps available right now.

1423
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 5: I'll go.

1424
01:06:34,239 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 4: You got this long.

1425
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 5: Bostmas on Shoot, don't kiss me.

1426
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,559
Speaker 2: I know this song's about though, it's not I know

1427
01:06:50,679 --> 01:06:51,360
what you're gonna say.

1428
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:51,719
Speaker 9: It is not.

1429
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:59,039
Speaker 2: It's not about Kevin. Nope, let's stay corrected. It's about me. No,

1430
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,599
it's uh Eric Clapton Is Eric Clapton?

1431
01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: What about Clapton?

1432
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,239
Speaker 4: Clapton was the rumor, and she was asked about that

1433
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,920
several times, much along the line.

1434
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: Like you know who's you're so vain about?

1435
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 3: And Don Knutson family guy?

1436
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:18,119
Speaker 10: Did that?

1437
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: What?

1438
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what?

1439
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1440
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 9: She uh.

1441
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,559
Speaker 4: She said that she was with Clapton at the end

1442
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:32,440
of the nineties and she had written this song prior

1443
01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:34,480
to that. Now, whether it was the release or I

1444
01:07:34,599 --> 01:07:37,239
have no idea because I don't remember when that came out,

1445
01:07:37,239 --> 01:07:39,079
and it may have. If she went like ninety eight,

1446
01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:40,719
this could have been out in ninety seven, ninety six.

1447
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,880
She said, it is an amalgalgu.

1448
01:07:47,159 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: Conga. I can't even fucking talk.

1449
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 3: Now, analgamation. Yeah, it's one of those tricky words.

1450
01:07:52,679 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 4: I don't even know what I just said. It's just

1451
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,639
basically it's a combo platter of a bunch of guys.

1452
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: She dated that. She said, you knew they were bad

1453
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:05,760
for you, but yeah, they were irresistible, and I go, yeah,

1454
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:08,480
I've been there. Yeah, I've been there with pretty much

1455
01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:14,719
everyone up to my wife Jesus, But isn't that usually

1456
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,319
the case? I guess I don't know.

1457
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,119
Speaker 3: I mean, the only one you end up like with

1458
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:20,720
is the last one, that's the idea.

1459
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:30,319
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's true. But I mean if someone

1460
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,239
wrote a song like this about me, I would be

1461
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,960
fucking flattered. Oh god, I would have it played every

1462
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,159
time I walked into a room.

1463
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,079
Speaker 2: I would. I would just have that line go, you know,

1464
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,239
but you were my favorite mistake and be like, hey,

1465
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:48,960
I am available, and she vouches. I'm verified, I'm verified,

1466
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:49,560
I'm pussy.

1467
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:50,279
Speaker 1: See.

1468
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:55,520
Speaker 3: That's why I can't believe that the song watches. That's

1469
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,359
why I can't believe the song is about an amalgamation. Well,

1470
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,399
she said, dude, you are my favorite mistake.

1471
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 2: I know, I know, so it's one of them.

1472
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 4: He's just saying that there was a couple that she

1473
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,439
had and maybe she was protecting Eric. I don't know,

1474
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,800
she could be maybe possibly, you know, she was afraid.

1475
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,319
Speaker 2: We found out.

1476
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 3: By by the way, who you're so vain was about? Well,

1477
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,239
they even she said it was like Carlor Simon.

1478
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,359
Speaker 2: Carly Simon said it was Warm Batty. Uh, many people.

1479
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,039
Speaker 4: He said that it was Mick Jagger, but she said

1480
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:28,560
it was two people. One may have been Warm, but

1481
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,199
it was somebody else. So I don't know it was

1482
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:34,319
it was Taylor, No, it was not what's his name?

1483
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah?

1484
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: Uh Chamer, the People you Love, James Taylor, James Taylor, Jay.

1485
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 4: It was either James Taylor. I think it was Warm

1486
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,840
Warm Batty or Mick Jagger. Well, Mick Jagger sang backup

1487
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:44,319
on the song.

1488
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: Yes.

1489
01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:47,399
Speaker 4: So if you listen really close, and this is what

1490
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,039
I miss about albums, is you you used to be

1491
01:09:50,119 --> 01:09:52,159
able to read the liner notes and go holy shit.

1492
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,560
John Mayer played on this song but you know so

1493
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,720
and was backed up saying, singing on this, look at

1494
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,680
this and it's kind of whom sag a cuts like

1495
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,000
a knife? Yeah, yeah, yeah what he did, yeah, which

1496
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:04,920
I don't think many people knew. And uh, I think

1497
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,279
that was around that came in around the time of

1498
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,239
the uh Billy Bob.

1499
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: Had his penis chopped off.

1500
01:10:14,199 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 4: He came John Bobbit, John Bobbitt, that's right, John Bobbitt,

1501
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,520
and instead of cuts like a Knife, the.

1502
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,039
Speaker 2: Parody song why Why Good? What is it go ahead,

1503
01:10:26,079 --> 01:10:28,960
tell me, tell me what it is that cuts like

1504
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,720
a wife, cuts like a wife. And then it was

1505
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:33,479
like it was terrible.

1506
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 4: It was I think Bob Wolf did it and I

1507
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:37,399
was in there and I had a scream in the background,

1508
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:38,119
like a knife went to.

1509
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,319
Speaker 3: I would try to do parody songs. We did one

1510
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:44,960
for Cocoba, for Libo Joe.

1511
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: That was awesome. We did another one for that was awesome.

1512
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:49,239
Eric Coltz. Yeah.

1513
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Little Douche.

1514
01:10:51,279 --> 01:10:54,520
Speaker 2: Cup Little Douche Group. We even did one here. We

1515
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,159
did yeah, what do we do remember? No, we did

1516
01:10:58,239 --> 01:10:58,560
do one.

1517
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 4: It was uh, oh, I'll remember it in a second.

1518
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,359
It was I'll pull it up here because I have

1519
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:07,920
it saved.

1520
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was like, was it.

1521
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 3: I did e Connors and Faris commercial pretend commercial featuring

1522
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:21,920
an NFL quarterback.

1523
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, I know that, but that was apparently this

1524
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:25,920
was a song that we did.

1525
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:26,520
Speaker 9: Oh.

1526
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: We had changed the wordst to something and then we

1527
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:30,920
we wanted to get back.

1528
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:36,159
Speaker 4: I'll figure it out. I don't remember now. Hmmm, that's interesting.

1529
01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: Let's see.

1530
01:11:41,319 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 4: Do Yeah, this is terrible, but I got it. I

1531
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,720
fucking got it. Look at me, I fucking got it.

1532
01:11:59,119 --> 01:11:59,520
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1533
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, Ai, Yeah, but you remember the song, yeah,

1534
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,760
the thighs, Yeah, hungry.

1535
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,319
Speaker 2: Thighs, hungry. I was heard.

1536
01:12:10,359 --> 01:12:14,159
Speaker 3: I heard Eric Carmen today. It's so weird and don't

1537
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:22,079
see it. Let's try to talk off a post. Does

1538
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:23,520
it kind if you laugh all the way to the post?

1539
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: Oh?

1540
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:27,119
Speaker 2: Oh men?

1541
01:12:27,319 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 11: Nice guys, your shadows burn my yes, every just spoke.

1542
01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:44,239
Speaker 5: Fleeting maybe this morning I thought it. But there are

1543
01:12:44,279 --> 01:12:47,520
two versions. Yeah, it wan.

1544
01:12:52,079 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 3: Hung that was like, this was this, This was the

1545
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:11,119
Jennifer Lopez version, She.

1546
01:13:11,239 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 11: Will take a thunder Star, wild, wild and wet.

1547
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:22,279
Speaker 2: Why why stopping.

1548
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 5: Crack the sky l one two three four daddy, I think?

1549
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,359
Speaker 2: And the covers. That's right.

1550
01:13:47,399 --> 01:13:50,279
Speaker 3: That's rather like we used to subscribe to a system,

1551
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,279
to a service that did parody socks. And remember when

1552
01:13:54,319 --> 01:13:57,439
Bristol Palin got pregnant. There was a song out by

1553
01:13:58,079 --> 01:14:00,760
I forgot the guy's name, but it's it's too late

1554
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:01,920
to close your thighs.

1555
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,079
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, I vaguely.

1556
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 3: Remember Timberland and somebody Timberland and One Republic doing a

1557
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,079
song like too late but it's too late to close

1558
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:11,600
your thighs?

1559
01:14:14,399 --> 01:14:17,319
Speaker 4: All right, Danny, you know you could you could use

1560
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:20,600
Ai to write a song for your loved one. You could, right,

1561
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:25,199
I don't know that that's very thoughtful because you didn't.

1562
01:14:25,239 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: You didn't do a lot. Yeah, you didn't do a lot.

1563
01:14:27,119 --> 01:14:28,199
But it's a thought that counts.

1564
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:30,079
Speaker 3: I'm told women that's all they care about it.

1565
01:14:31,239 --> 01:14:35,239
Speaker 2: Well, here's what they thought a last minute bouquet. Is

1566
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,680
I remember the date? Yes, I remember the date. I

1567
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:40,000
don't know.

1568
01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 4: Now if you're in a quasi relationship, a sort of relationship,

1569
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,760
you're not really sure what situationship you're in.

1570
01:14:48,319 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm here's the situationship Booka's.

1571
01:14:50,399 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 4: Fine, you know a thoughtful detail. One you kind of

1572
01:14:54,079 --> 01:14:57,840
plan and you do something, and that's I pay attention

1573
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,680
to you. That's the panty dropper. That's the bandy dropper.

1574
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,399
That's the whole game right there, because if you actually

1575
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,640
pay attention to listen, there are hints that are dropped

1576
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,199
sometimes in conversation. They're not even hints. I shouldn't call

1577
01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:11,760
them that because it's not. It's just conversation. You pick

1578
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,279
up on something you know, like, oh my god, you

1579
01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:18,640
won't believe this, my favorite whatever broke today, but make

1580
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,760
a mental note, put it in your Amazon car bingo, Bingo.

1581
01:15:23,279 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 3: Have delivered. Yes, one year I had my wife. I

1582
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,039
sent my wife flowers the day before Valentide's Day at work,

1583
01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:31,399
and I said, everyone's getting flowers tomorrow.

1584
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,119
Speaker 2: Only one lady's getting it today.

1585
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 3: She loved it. And my wife hates valatized days. Say

1586
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,439
she doesn't hate it, she's apathetic toward it.

1587
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a little lame. But send them the

1588
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:45,359
flowers a day before. Yeah, you're getting them a day before, baby,

1589
01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:48,399
because they were not checked up in praying. Don kidding,

1590
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,239
they probably were the same they were. Yeah.

1591
01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:54,159
Speaker 4: I would say this too, and not for Valentine's Day,

1592
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,159
but anything that requires the celebration.

1593
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:05,239
Speaker 2: Don't ask what do you want to do. I don't

1594
01:16:05,279 --> 01:16:06,359
think that that's a good idea.

1595
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:11,399
Speaker 3: No, you should have already in your mind for the

1596
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,520
last year, taking a mental inventory.

1597
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: All right, let me rephrase that, because sometimes I guys go.

1598
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, but every idea I do out, Yeah, that happens too.

1599
01:16:20,319 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 4: Okay, but let's say it's a milestone, say it's a

1600
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:26,079
fortieth fiftieth.

1601
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,399
Speaker 2: I wouldn't ask what do you want to do? You

1602
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,720
should know because this shouldn't be collaborative. Yeah, this should

1603
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,399
be I pay attention. We're going to stay Brazil. I

1604
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:35,680
get it.

1605
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:41,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I gotta think if women are to me,

1606
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:47,159
they're emotionally intelligent, more emotionally intelligent than men on the standard.

1607
01:16:47,239 --> 01:16:49,960
I'm not going to say everybody, but I mean more

1608
01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:52,800
often than not, they're more emotionally intelligent. And I think

1609
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,319
a lot of times they see past things. So when

1610
01:16:55,359 --> 01:16:58,680
it's something like what do you want to do? It

1611
01:16:59,039 --> 01:17:02,760
doesn't it comes off off as collaborative, and I think

1612
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,920
it kind of feels like I don't think about you.

1613
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1614
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you're looking to keep the spark alive, yeah,

1615
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:12,720
think ahead, you got it.

1616
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to play a preemptive striker.

1617
01:17:16,199 --> 01:17:18,239
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is this, if she's planning dinner and

1618
01:17:18,399 --> 01:17:20,520
she's and you have kids, and she's getting the babysitter

1619
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,800
and she's doing this, that that that's it's a concierge service, dude, right,

1620
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,239
I mean, you know she's project management.

1621
01:17:28,399 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't that's not That's not the way you should be,

1622
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,399
especially if it's a celebration for her whatever that is,

1623
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,359
or whatever you want to do. I don't know.

1624
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't get a driver's license picture like you know,

1625
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,479
blown up either, that's a bad idea too. I saw

1626
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,359
that an episode of Home Improvement Knocking.

1627
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 4: Now, I will say I am a huge, huge, huge

1628
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:55,520
fan only because only only because it entertains me.

1629
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: Over compensation, big, big, big fan of overcompt We've seen

1630
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,159
a few people, Oh, big, big, big fan.

1631
01:18:04,039 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 4: It's I'm telling you, like, if you start doing things

1632
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:14,239
where you're paying for everything and you're just overspending, that's

1633
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:18,119
my favorite. Because I don't think women remember the money.

1634
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:18,720
I really don't.

1635
01:18:19,279 --> 01:18:21,319
Speaker 2: I think in the end, I mean it's nice, right.

1636
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,079
Speaker 3: Although they remember the moments.

1637
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:26,199
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, and I'm gonna kind of they'll

1638
01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:28,439
take an emotional bank. I'm gonna I'm gonna poke it

1639
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,000
somebody here.

1640
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 4: I think the two fit chicks who do a podcast here,

1641
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,479
all right, I think one of them would be well,

1642
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,119
maybe both, but definitely one.

1643
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 2: I think it.

1644
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 4: It would be very I would remember the money, spend,

1645
01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:45,039
the lavish spending, the leaven.

1646
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: And you know what, maybe I'm wrong.

1647
01:18:47,359 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 4: I think that if you took a woman to an

1648
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:55,640
expensive restaurant that she hasn't been to, she remembers that, yeah,

1649
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:56,880
remember that you were Yeah, But.

1650
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 3: Say if it's out of I don't want to say

1651
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,800
out of character, but if it's out of routine, yeah, yeah,

1652
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:02,600
she would remember that.

1653
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah I was.

1654
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 4: Let me dig back into my at the chimes, my

1655
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:17,920
knowledge of the gimes, Lucy, there you go, reaching back

1656
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,319
into my knowledge of of women. I think that most

1657
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:27,439
women don't want expensive as much as they want intentional.

1658
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:32,319
And I think that spending money on a nice restaurant,

1659
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:39,880
while impressive, to really seal the night, eye contact, listening right,

1660
01:19:40,119 --> 01:19:44,239
paying attention. Even this story you've heard for the fucking

1661
01:19:44,399 --> 01:19:48,840
ninetieth time about Beth and how she once farted on

1662
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,279
her way into a meeting and everybody laughed.

1663
01:19:51,359 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't mean I was gonna say, is there

1664
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,520
something I told you about that I'm not aware of?

1665
01:19:57,279 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 7: But I do.

1666
01:19:58,079 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of times, especially let me

1667
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,640
say that, I think there are women who get to

1668
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,640
a certain age and they have kids, and they do

1669
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,680
things and they feel like they're not seen.

1670
01:20:10,319 --> 01:20:12,239
Speaker 2: I really do. I think that that's a real thing.

1671
01:20:12,319 --> 01:20:13,600
I think it's a real feeling they have.

1672
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how. That's how like when the kids all

1673
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,359
of a sudden grow up and go off the college,

1674
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,880
you got, the parents look at each other and go Okay,

1675
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:20,720
what do we have left?

1676
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, kids are going Sex becomes fuck you when you

1677
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:24,760
pass each other in the hallway.

1678
01:20:25,079 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 2: It's not it's not a good thing. Not a good thing.

1679
01:20:28,079 --> 01:20:30,000
But I do I think you want to feel desired.

1680
01:20:30,199 --> 01:20:31,920
Oh yeah, I want to go hot. You want to

1681
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,239
feel hot, feel sexy.

1682
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 4: You do one hundred and nothing like undivided attention. If

1683
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,239
you make her feel like the only woman in that restaurant,

1684
01:20:41,239 --> 01:20:43,199
any dropper, you might get blown in the car. Buddy,

1685
01:20:43,239 --> 01:20:44,439
I'm just saying they could happen.

1686
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, taking notes. See, my wife is afraid.

1687
01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:52,000
My wife's not a big Valentine's Day fan. No, but

1688
01:20:52,079 --> 01:20:53,960
I know I gotta do so so I get that

1689
01:20:54,079 --> 01:20:56,359
in our anniversary is like the week after. Okay, so

1690
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,920
so back to back, you're your anniversary.

1691
01:20:59,079 --> 01:20:59,399
Speaker 2: I get it.

1692
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,319
Speaker 4: A lot of women'll say Valentine's say, I don't want

1693
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:05,680
to made up holiday Hallmark to remind you.

1694
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 2: That you love me. It's kind of a shitty thing.

1695
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 3: However, well, well it's out there.

1696
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, but here here's what I thought about, because I

1697
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,199
think about like my sons all the time, and I

1698
01:21:15,319 --> 01:21:18,560
go what men are taught and not not sat down

1699
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,680
and go let me teach you something, but just by

1700
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,119
watching example, your taught performance, your taught performance. And women

1701
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,680
are looking for and probably taught more about connection because

1702
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,079
they're about a connection with somebody. I just have a

1703
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:35,199
connection with that guy. Why are you dating him? He's

1704
01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:38,800
got a fucking beer belly, his pants ride low. I

1705
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:44,279
don't know, I have a connection. Usually they also have

1706
01:21:44,359 --> 01:21:44,960
a big wallet.

1707
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 3: I well, yeah, like I see these being a big

1708
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,000
Sopranos fan, the algorithm's got to me, right. So you

1709
01:21:50,039 --> 01:21:53,960
see these pictures on Twitter or Instagram of a cartoon

1710
01:21:54,079 --> 01:21:56,960
version of Tony Soprano in like a bath in a

1711
01:21:57,039 --> 01:22:01,600
bathrobe and a cut short shirt and boxers with the

1712
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,920
newspaper under his arm, and then you see the women

1713
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,319
that love him, and they're all gorgeous. Yes, I mean

1714
01:22:06,359 --> 01:22:08,000
it's like there is an aura.

1715
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:08,560
Speaker 2: With certain men.

1716
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,319
Speaker 3: Sure, there is attractive. The looks are secondary. It's all

1717
01:22:12,399 --> 01:22:14,880
about it's about the guy.

1718
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a leader, he's.

1719
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 3: A James his orange. I can see his Charlie Charlie Murphy,

1720
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:20,279
his orange.

1721
01:22:20,279 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 2: I can see.

1722
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,319
Speaker 4: But it's like it's yeah, and it is. There's something

1723
01:22:23,359 --> 01:22:27,600
about an energy. There's a way they carry themselves. There's

1724
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,680
in confidence to it that all that is is part

1725
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,479
of it, and you really can't fake that ship.

1726
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: No, I don't think.

1727
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 4: I don't think. I mean you can, you can try.

1728
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,920
I love all these things. I get fed the weirdest things,

1729
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,680
like I get this thing now on how to text women.

1730
01:22:42,039 --> 01:22:44,520
If you're texting good morning, your lame is basically what

1731
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,800
you're going. I'm going, okay, I score away.

1732
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,319
Speaker 2: Pass it, But I go, why why is that a

1733
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,239
my algorithm? What the fuck did I do?

1734
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 3: Right?

1735
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:52,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1736
01:22:52,279 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 4: It's usually like I started the doctor what's his name?

1737
01:22:57,119 --> 01:23:00,319
I get all the blood tests? Now, oh doctor, heyman hymen? Yeah,

1738
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,359
and now I get all of it. Okay, that I get.

1739
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,560
We talked about it. I looked it up. Okay, you

1740
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:09,199
connected me. Where's this texting ship from? I don't text anybody.

1741
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, I know.

1742
01:23:11,039 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 3: I know a guy who was gay was getting ads

1743
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,199
for dating women in their sixties. He goes, clearly algorithms, well,

1744
01:23:16,199 --> 01:23:17,479
they turned into men, some of them.

1745
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:23,199
Speaker 2: Have you seen him. I'm just saying, I mean, you're

1746
01:23:23,239 --> 01:23:27,000
shooting in the other hole anyway, Jeez.

1747
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,399
Speaker 3: Ended up becoming a trans fad.

1748
01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: I just say, right, that's true. Yeah, that is I

1749
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,399
think that men with like, what do men do? What

1750
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,000
did your dad do? What did your dad do for

1751
01:23:40,079 --> 01:23:41,880
your mom? Card flowers?

1752
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:42,039
Speaker 9: No?

1753
01:23:42,119 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: No, no, no? In life? What did he do? Oh?

1754
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,439
He provided? Well, he solved their problems.

1755
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,520
Speaker 3: Yes, car broke down, Dad took care of him, got it?

1756
01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:54,319
Speaker 2: That is how men? And what did you learn? Take

1757
01:23:54,319 --> 01:23:56,399
care of your wife? Men solve shit? Yes? Right? Men?

1758
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 3: Men, Men problem solve.

1759
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,399
Speaker 2: Men are problems. We'll probabm. We'll see.

1760
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: I've had to like to coach myself not to try

1761
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,239
to solve all her problems, like when she comes home

1762
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,079
and she's venting. Just listen, Yeah you don't, well you

1763
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:10,920
know what you should tell your cowork right, because.

1764
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,319
Speaker 2: That's what we do.

1765
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 3: What we do, we portray different, we do how we're raised.

1766
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, just listen.

1767
01:24:16,079 --> 01:24:17,199
Speaker 4: Do you know how hard that was for me to

1768
01:24:17,279 --> 01:24:20,199
I'm learning my first semester? Oh yeah, first semester of

1769
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,840
grad school. Okay, yeah, because in there you're not supposed

1770
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,319
to say anything, and I'm like going to.

1771
01:24:25,359 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 2: Get to sit in the stew. I am, Yeah, you

1772
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,479
gotta sit in the stew. Yeah did I say that?

1773
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,159
Or do you know that you said that? Oh? I

1774
01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:33,600
caught it yes, yeah, I listened to you. Okay, you

1775
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:34,960
gotta sit with a minute.

1776
01:24:35,159 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 3: That's in the stew well, that was slow, let us

1777
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,880
slow cook. And fifty minutes I couldn't. I would start solving.

1778
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,319
I would be like, why don't you just sell that

1779
01:24:43,359 --> 01:24:44,399
bitch to you know what I mean?

1780
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:45,319
Speaker 2: Or whatever it was?

1781
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 3: And is this a way to keep the racket going

1782
01:24:48,079 --> 01:24:48,600
week to week?

1783
01:24:49,239 --> 01:24:49,279
Speaker 10: No?

1784
01:24:50,359 --> 01:24:53,399
Speaker 4: No, no, I understand what you're saying. What the truth

1785
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,039
is is that if I solve your problem, the problem

1786
01:24:57,159 --> 01:25:00,560
isn't solved. But if you solve your problem, Oh, it's

1787
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,479
like leading the horse, you got it, It's like meeting

1788
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,279
the person where they are and helping them find their

1789
01:25:06,319 --> 01:25:10,119
own ladder on the way out. Because and again, and

1790
01:25:10,279 --> 01:25:14,000
I think I always thought I love this saying, and

1791
01:25:14,079 --> 01:25:17,600
I was never sure if I fully understood it. Words

1792
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:22,039
don't teach, right, words don't teach, and experience teaches, So

1793
01:25:22,399 --> 01:25:26,720
I can. I can tell you the formula and then

1794
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,000
you apply it and it's like it doesn't work, or

1795
01:25:29,039 --> 01:25:31,119
it does work, or you don't care. But when you

1796
01:25:31,279 --> 01:25:33,880
struggle through it and figure it out, it means more

1797
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:34,119
to you.

1798
01:25:34,279 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 3: Right, like, like let's take that Nordic dude, Yes, Okay.

1799
01:25:37,359 --> 01:25:41,359
Now we talk about this in church with salvation, right, Okay,

1800
01:25:41,359 --> 01:25:43,199
Well what do I say? Well, No, it's got to

1801
01:25:43,239 --> 01:25:45,399
come from your heart. If like, if like this guy

1802
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,359
cheated on his on his girl, Okay, and well, Billy,

1803
01:25:49,399 --> 01:25:49,920
what do I do?

1804
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:51,199
Speaker 2: Okay?

1805
01:25:51,279 --> 01:25:54,319
Speaker 3: Well, if you say, well, say this, Okay, I'll just

1806
01:25:54,399 --> 01:25:57,520
repeat that. It's not meaningful like say you're sorry, I'm

1807
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,439
sorry for I've sorry for what I do. Cheating, I'm

1808
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,279
sorry for cheating. It's not from the heart, right, you

1809
01:26:04,359 --> 01:26:06,399
gotta like help, This gotta come from you. It's got

1810
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,119
to come from your mind, your body, your heart, your spirit.

1811
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,279
Speaker 2: Men solve problems. Women feel, they feel shit, they feel

1812
01:26:13,399 --> 01:26:17,960
twenty eight days everything, they feel everything and and so

1813
01:26:18,199 --> 01:26:21,600
Valentine's Day, or even a brain. It's not about it's

1814
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:26,640
not about solving anything, right like make It's about, in

1815
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,000
some way kind of signaling you pay attention.

1816
01:26:30,279 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 3: Yes, you want to telegraph it. Plant those little seeds.

1817
01:26:33,239 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: Fellas you're if you're uncomfortable, plant signaling infection, you're in trouble.

1818
01:26:37,039 --> 01:26:39,680
Plant the seed of love. Do it now. And here's

1819
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,479
the thing. Attention is currency. Yes, attention is current.

1820
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 3: Certainly is now on the flip side, talk about women

1821
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,399
with feelings and feeling things out and thinking them with their.

1822
01:26:48,279 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: Feelings probably don't feel like getting me nothing.

1823
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: For Validyde's Day.

1824
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: What do you want? Dan?

1825
01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:55,239
Speaker 9: No?

1826
01:26:55,399 --> 01:26:58,239
Speaker 3: My point is like America, like they gear the advertising

1827
01:26:58,279 --> 01:27:00,800
towards the men. It's like the men's responsibilit for the yes, yes,

1828
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,359
and then they create a second holiday. That's why, Okay,

1829
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,600
you're going to create a second holiday at October Cold

1830
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:07,880
Sweetest Day. I don't know if you've heard of this.

1831
01:27:08,319 --> 01:27:10,279
This is a Buffalo holiday or whatnot.

1832
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,520
Speaker 2: It's a Polish thing.

1833
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's also well that's Dingus Day, that's after Easter.

1834
01:27:15,159 --> 01:27:15,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1835
01:27:15,399 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 3: But the point is that these the florists have come

1836
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,520
up with these holidays to get men to open their wallets,

1837
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,439
to spend more money, to feel kill something if you

1838
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:23,479
give them more stuff.

1839
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,279
Speaker 2: Okay, and you know what, but they never tell the way.

1840
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,359
Get it from a flowers, Get them from a local flowers,

1841
01:27:28,399 --> 01:27:31,520
don't do them hundred flowers sucks. And if you think

1842
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:36,479
a fucking gas station flowers, you're already you're already in trouble.

1843
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,239
Because if she says it's fine, guess what, it's not fine.

1844
01:27:40,319 --> 01:27:42,520
Who's got great flowers. Fine is the worst word. She

1845
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:42,880
could say.

1846
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 3: You know who's got great flowers? What Trader Joe's tremendous flowers,

1847
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,079
great flowers.

1848
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trader Joe's.

1849
01:27:49,039 --> 01:27:49,199
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1850
01:27:49,279 --> 01:27:52,359
Speaker 2: Okay, good tip, goods, good tip, fellas.

1851
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,319
Speaker 4: Here's something else and she'll notice this. You spent five

1852
01:27:57,119 --> 01:28:01,279
days total of nine hours, five days and nine hours

1853
01:28:01,319 --> 01:28:06,000
total putting together your fucking fantasy football team, and you're

1854
01:28:06,039 --> 01:28:07,880
gonna freestyle Valentine's Day.

1855
01:28:08,039 --> 01:28:11,279
Speaker 2: Can't do it? Fuck you in trouble. I can't do it,

1856
01:28:11,399 --> 01:28:16,159
So I say fuck you. You know, I mean, here's

1857
01:28:16,199 --> 01:28:16,439
the thing.

1858
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 4: Danny can recite you playoff stats from nineteen ninety two.

1859
01:28:24,119 --> 01:28:25,880
Does he know what his wife left for dessert?

1860
01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:31,520
Speaker 3: I know that I'm not spoking with tobacco. So my

1861
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,319
wife just got we just on frozies Christmas cookies. I

1862
01:28:34,399 --> 01:28:35,279
wanted to go to Crumble, like.

1863
01:28:35,279 --> 01:28:38,199
Speaker 2: You know, we've been a year. I want to get some.

1864
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,319
Speaker 3: She goes, you know, we got cookies at home, which

1865
01:28:40,399 --> 01:28:41,600
is an old phrase from your parents.

1866
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,520
Speaker 2: Like we got food at home? Yes, okay, I do

1867
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,279
that a lot. Now, Oh yeah, we can on freeze

1868
01:28:45,319 --> 01:28:45,680
the cookies.

1869
01:28:46,079 --> 01:28:50,159
Speaker 3: So we bring the Christmas cookies up that we froze. Okay, well,

1870
01:28:50,279 --> 01:28:54,239
now apparently I've eaten every like brand. I've eaten all

1871
01:28:54,279 --> 01:28:56,159
of them. But now I have to leave one cookie

1872
01:28:56,199 --> 01:28:59,319
of each kind left for her for bath.

1873
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's the thing. There's like fucking roommates or siblings

1874
01:29:03,039 --> 01:29:05,920
or something. That's what he did. Your mom would say,

1875
01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:09,000
don't eat them all, Danielle, leave one for your sister.

1876
01:29:09,279 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: One day, I ate all the bacle var that she had,

1877
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,319
and I didn't realize they're cut diagonal. I think I

1878
01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:14,199
told you this story.

1879
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: I thought, Oh that was my half.

1880
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 3: No, that was the only piece left.

1881
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 2: That is.

1882
01:29:20,039 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 4: So much sugar. Oh, I know, that is so much sugar.

1883
01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:25,520
It's I mean, it's good, but it's so much sugar.

1884
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 9: You know.

1885
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: But I have to be But I've learned to be

1886
01:29:28,119 --> 01:29:31,479
mindful of my wife, not to eat all the cookies

1887
01:29:32,079 --> 01:29:34,640
or even eat all of the same kinds of cookies.

1888
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:39,000
Leave at least one for my wife each of each delicacy.

1889
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:39,600
I guess.

1890
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 9: So.

1891
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like guys, never gain thing for Valentine's Day,

1892
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:44,600
don't even try.

1893
01:29:46,359 --> 01:29:47,039
Speaker 2: Sometimes they do.

1894
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,039
Speaker 3: You can get them a set of golf balls for

1895
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:50,600
Valentine's they'll show them you love them.

1896
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 2: Get them some bullets. Yeah, I think you can get them,

1897
01:29:56,079 --> 01:30:00,159
Like where where's the pack? Like, here's go.

1898
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 4: My buddy Mike, due to got blackballed from an ad agency,

1899
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,760
was working out because he ad Age magazine used to

1900
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,359
have contests in the back of the hand take two

1901
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,399
products that wouldn't go together. And he made this smoke

1902
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,720
and poke Marlboro's cigarettes in the condom, and I think

1903
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,479
he came in third or something in the thing.

1904
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,079
Speaker 2: So he gets mentioned in his big dumb faces in there.

1905
01:30:21,399 --> 01:30:22,800
He's now super successful.

1906
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:24,560
Speaker 4: He went to work for Deutsch after that and now

1907
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,000
started his own company, which is also an investment firm,

1908
01:30:27,079 --> 01:30:29,840
and it's really doing well. But he did the smoke

1909
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,399
and poke, and I go, now, why couldn't you do like,

1910
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:38,079
you know, for Valentine's Day? It's like a bottle of wine,

1911
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,960
a couple of viagra, or hymns or the whatever other

1912
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,720
shit they're selling online. They've hymns and hurts, but I

1913
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,359
think there's also isn't there like something that's supposed to

1914
01:30:48,359 --> 01:30:51,319
take fifteen minutes for the hardest erection of your life.

1915
01:30:51,319 --> 01:30:53,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. I got Those are the ads I

1916
01:30:53,359 --> 01:30:56,119
see when I'm sitting on the crapper and then in

1917
01:30:56,199 --> 01:30:57,760
a pair of boxers with hearts on him.

1918
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 4: How fucking got the nuts for that certain age of

1919
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:02,960
a certain age I got? I understand that.

1920
01:31:03,119 --> 01:31:07,399
Speaker 2: That's all I'm thinking, Like these days, drawers and dogs,

1921
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:10,479
these days, whether it be Valentine's Day, and I know

1922
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,640
people will go, I hate okay, but her birthday and

1923
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,880
anniversary a special day that means a lot to her, Like,

1924
01:31:18,319 --> 01:31:20,199
I don't know whatever that is.

1925
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:25,119
Speaker 4: It's not about not disappointing her. That's not That shouldn't

1926
01:31:25,119 --> 01:31:28,760
be what it's about. It should be more about showing

1927
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,600
her she matters without her.

1928
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,199
Speaker 2: Having to ask. Because let me tell you something, if

1929
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:38,119
she has to ask, she's already decided yes, she doesn't matter.

1930
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 3: And that's when things get in trouble, and that's when

1931
01:31:41,079 --> 01:31:41,960
things fall apart.

1932
01:31:42,119 --> 01:31:45,520
Speaker 2: No, and that's not about February fourteenth. No, that's about

1933
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,800
every each buddy, mother fucking day. Every day is Valentine.

1934
01:31:51,319 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 3: Because even that exhausted me every day in my life,

1935
01:31:54,119 --> 01:31:55,520
Resurrection Sunday.

1936
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 2: And Valentine's Day. That's funny, Great Congress is his birthday

1937
01:31:59,479 --> 01:31:59,800
every day?

1938
01:32:00,079 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know.

1939
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 3: It's also Greg's birthday. It's not the Super Bowl.

1940
01:32:08,039 --> 01:32:12,520
Speaker 4: Well, no, but but you said Juice, and Juice said

1941
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,319
to us, it's like his holiday. Oh gosh, and it's amazing.

1942
01:32:17,319 --> 01:32:18,319
Does he work the next day?

1943
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?

1944
01:32:19,079 --> 01:32:20,039
Speaker 2: Was he drunk? No?

1945
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,560
Speaker 3: You should see the spread he had. Man, I'm disciplin.

1946
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,439
Told my wife to put the desserts in her purse.

1947
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:27,560
We had a blast.

1948
01:32:29,039 --> 01:32:31,359
Speaker 2: Hey, honey, steal a couple of those. I'll leave you half.

1949
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,279
Speaker 3: He's got like sixteen TVs of that house.

1950
01:32:33,359 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 2: Thinking about you, honey, I'm thinking about you. I was

1951
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,359
thinking about you. He left you half.

1952
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean, well, we got the super Bowl, the Big

1953
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,399
Street downstairs, and then he's got like college basketball and

1954
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:43,079
the other TVs.

1955
01:32:43,119 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 4: Oh, it's like a yeah, it's a sports bar. Yeah,

1956
01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:49,159
that's awesome. And now I wish I had taken Jackson

1957
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:49,560
over there.

1958
01:32:50,119 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 2: Jackson.

1959
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,119
Speaker 4: Jackson came to my house and then I wound up

1960
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:56,279
just staying home and I made uh many steaks and

1961
01:32:56,359 --> 01:32:57,039
some other stuff.

1962
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,399
Speaker 2: And then he looked at me and goes, I needed

1963
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:04,760
a day off. We did two nice sho okay, all

1964
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:10,520
right for Dann Barrillo. For you Valentine's Day suckers, do

1965
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,560
it right or don't do it at all. I'm Bill

1966
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,039
Moran and we'll see you next time.

1967
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,399
Speaker 8: Don't even know when we was up to.

1968
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 3: They wouldn't have let us in, and that would let

1969
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,520
it and them was like the rich, no sin Elvis pence.

1970
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 2: They bowl a bar to the Bastland Games.