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Speaker 2: Ol, Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on.
Thank you for telling a friend. And that's how we
spread the word cool. What hat is that?
Speaker 3: New York pilots?
Speaker 2: All that's right. I love a game.
Speaker 3: Collegiate Baseball League.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Oakley, you're a big Oakley guy. Yeah, that's
all right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have a pair of Oakley sunglasses. I was just
like the sweatshirt.
Speaker 2: I had a dream the other night.
Speaker 3: They had a sale one day and I bought a few.
Speaker 4: I uh, somebody, somebody's trying to get me to buy Oakley,
not sunglasses, ski goggles, not kidding, And I said, no,
I want to go buy these this brand knock around,
I like, knock around their glasses, their sunglasses, and they're inexpensive.
And they're like, I mean, I say expensive, I don't know,
twenty five dollars a pair. But they hold up their
knock around they could fall down. They and they a
bunch of different styles. You can get your sports teams
if you want. It's a great website. And then they
have ski goggles and things as well, and sometimes they
run package deals and I just like them. I've liked
them for a while. And uh so I in my dream,
I'm going no want, I want. It was a weird thing.
It was just this week and this is so funny.
You wear the Oakley thing.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I saw you hanging out with
Juice Fields on Super Bowl Sunday. Yeah, yeah, how is
that party?
Speaker 3: Great spread, trevendous spread, great party, that tremendous party. Yeah,
Jet Juice want a ton of money?
Speaker 2: Look at you? Yeah you texted me.
Speaker 3: Ye his his his boiler busted the night before. Oh
my god, and he want enough money to pay for it.
And then some okay turned the super Bowl. So yeah,
I mean he's very successful.
Speaker 4: Yeah he Uh it looked nice and I it was
a fun time. He's taller than I thought. Yeah he
has tall that or you shrunk, No, No, he's tall okay. Yeah,
because I wasn't sure what expect and I felt bad
because I was invited there. I was invited to Kevin,
not Kevin's house, but Kevin's buddies and uh and then
Arnie Roth's child who uh rbtl uh said, invited me
to his he has a loft downtown and uh, I
went to none.
Speaker 2: I had just so much work in schoolwork stuff. I
didn't do any.
Speaker 4: I didn't do any I didn't even really watch the game.
It was kind of a boring game.
Speaker 3: You know it, but it kept you in it just
because you're waiting for New England to be just to
wake up. Yeah, because when because I've seen Seattle play before,
and I've seen Arnold in games where you let the
opponent hang around. It's three nothing, six nothing, nine nothing.
You don't want to be kicking field goals. You want
to bury them. And eventually they they did. And you know,
of course Collinsworth is praising Drake made everybod's killing collins Worth.
I think Collinsworth does a great job. And he's like,
you know, now he's started to fight his rhythm. Next play,
Oh what do I know?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Who would make that play? Patrick Mahoes. By the way,
there were bets on Cashi on whether or not Collinsworth
would mention Patrick.
Speaker 2: Mahomes you're kidding, no, oh wow?
Speaker 3: And somebody asked him about it in a radio row at
the Super Bowl, and so he didn't mention mahomes once
the entire game. Yea, so people want some money on Collinsworth,
whether or not he mentioned Patrick Mahoe. So yeah, but
we had a great time. But juiced to throw a
heck of a party. He's got a beautiful house. He
took him like years to remodel it. He and his
wife done a great job. They got a nice little dog,
two great kids. My nephew and niece are terrors. Oh
my gosh. They had like the second quarter. We had
to calm my nephew down. He's like bam, bam, he's
breaking all my nieces or his cousin's toys and stuff.
You want. You want to talk about a halftime show?
My goodness, we're picking up stuff.
Speaker 4: Well, the halftimes show is the most washed halftime show
in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 3: See what controversy does? It creates cash?
Speaker 2: I guess I don't even know. Like I I watched it.
I didn't. I thought I get it, I get it.
I see what this is.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see it. I didn't see any halftime show.
I was driving home. Oh but my wife wanted to
listen to it because she's a music person. We'll buy
people she like, you know, and so I just they
played it on the radio broadcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I didn't understand it.
Speaker 4: No, I mean either, but it was okay, eating fun.
It kind of reminded me of the Caribbean a little bit,
and I thought that there was a lot of cool.
Speaker 2: Things in there.
Speaker 4: When he gave himself his young self the grammy, I
was like, that's that's pretty cool, and you know, just
kind of a pitch to Puerto Rico and Latin countries
and it was all in Spanish.
Speaker 3: I mean, the people who were gonna hate it said
they hated it. The people were gonna love it said
they loved it. You could tell. But there was one
person locally who actually gave bad Money a compliment and
said that he really enjoyed it. And it's somebody that
I didn't think would say that. And I'm like, Okay,
here's a thinking person. Oh okay, here's someone who is
not just swept away by audiology. Yeah he's he's I'm
gonna give this a neutral I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Give this conservative talk show host. Yes, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna give this some Yes, it was Bob, and he
gave it. He gave it a fair shake, and he
said he really enjoyed it. Everybody else on one side
a ledger, you could pretty much figure out what their
opinion is.
Speaker 2: There was it's interesting. This is very interesting because there
are there.
Speaker 4: I had put up a clip and all I said
in the clip was I enjoyed it. I thought it
was more about unity. I thought it was showing kind
of the melting pot of what this country is, the
influences of that. I wasn't offended by the fact that
it was all in Spanish. It was all in Spanish,
so and uh, I thought it was kind.
Speaker 2: Of cool and it felt like a good vibe.
Speaker 4: And what did I care. It's a halftime show. It's
not a do you know what I'm saying, It's a
half time it's entertainment. If I didn't and I said,
you know what, if you didn't like it, there was
an alternative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three million people want didn't have to You didn't
have to like it, right, You didn't have to like it, Yeah,
I mean to like either one of them. You could
like both, yeah, or like both like it just didn't matter.
So I had put something up there.
Speaker 4: And man, the the stuff it went, it went flying.
Speaker 3: You know, our favorite pastime is in this country outrage.
Speaker 4: Well it was weird to me because it's it's not
you ever notice that when you're in an argument. Okay,
So whenever there's an argument and someone calls you a name,
it's basically over the argument.
Speaker 3: Isy've lost, thoughts well, yeah, proud of ideas, not because
it's resolved, exactly, because it just fell off a freaking
cliff man. There's nothing there and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: What the what the argument is about. The argument could be.
Speaker 4: About parenting, football policy, whatever it is. You go to
name calling, and it's basically like it's over.
Speaker 3: Once you reach the ad hominem portion of the program.
It is no longer a valid exactly. You've lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels okay, So I've been If I.
Speaker 3: Call you an a hole in the argument, I've lost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the next second you're a washed up loser
and somebody I have no care.
Speaker 2: I'll just say this. I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't enter into the arguments on my own page.
I usually don't look at them, but now I'm getting
notices that they that people are commenting on these stuff.
Speaker 3: People which are really four people comment to your post.
Speaker 4: Over and over, and you know it's it's I go,
we're not debating anymore. It's like you're auditioning for middle school.
But it was Bjsha. It was an old it was
an old producer of the of a legendary morning show
in this town had gone and just said how awful
this was. And then people are putting up pictures of
Bad Bunny in address, and bad Bunny says all these things,
and I'm like, okay, when we start litigating the past.
The only thing that I saw was a guy who
seemed to be tastefully and respectfully dressed, paying homage to
the football game that his uncle played with his uncle's
number sixty four, and that who gave himself a Grammy,
which who wouldn't want to give yourself when you're a
kid going hey, hang in there, it's gonna you know,
all your dreams come true.
Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I thought it paid it.
Speaker 4: But this, I mean, well, to take bad Bunny, I
take that side out of it. It was like I'm
watching this and I see these people arguing, and I
go when it dissolves into to in you know, into insults.
Speaker 2: Did that person just lose the argument? And what does
it say when our leaders do it? I don't. I
mean they're out of ideas.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's kind of it kind of comes up with like,
that's it, that's the best you got. You're the guy
in charge. Well, when you're one of the people in charge.
Speaker 4: You could say things like and I think you started
to say you're out of ideas. Cognitively, yeah, you you
have nothing else to say.
Speaker 3: Or at the very least, you don't know how to go.
Speaker 4: Well, you've lost cognitive control. Yeah, right, you've got so
pissed off. And I believe me, I've been there. I
think I probably you know in the past you all
have or you don't.
Speaker 2: We all have. You don't have a stronger point left.
You feel threatened, not necessarily wrong, but threatened.
Speaker 3: I mean you think about all your thoughts, they're all there,
the end game of no more ideas? Right, every thought
you have, every idea you have, every belief you have,
is the end game that you've come to. That's the
conclusions that you've come to. There's that you don't or
you that's that's the best argument you can make.
Speaker 4: The only thing I can think too, is could they
wanted to stabilize you emotionally so your head's out of
the game, Like they're getting in your head a little
bit by calling you names.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: I mean, I will say when President and Drum was
on the debate stage the first time, he starts calling
a little Marco Rubio or just these little.
Speaker 2: You know, uh, sleepy, sleepy joke sleep. Yeah. But it
wasn't that.
Speaker 4: It was who was He was going after Bush's brother
and he hadn't Jeb. Yeah, he had a name for Jeb,
and I forget what the nickname was for Jeb. And
I remember going, oh my god, you.
Speaker 2: Could do that, you can do I never saw that.
He never did. And I don't know that he was
out of ideas. I don't think he was. I just
and that's where I'm going.
Speaker 4: Okay, when you attack the person instead of the position
at hominem as you say, right, and so it's basically
what that is, You're attacking the person.
Speaker 2: Not the position. You've left the substance of the argument.
And I go.
Speaker 4: Today, Pam Bondy is in front of Congress and listen
to this.
Speaker 5: She listen.
Speaker 2: It's it's the same thing. A guy called Bjyshay on
my Facebook page washed up loser.
Speaker 6: Listen, you can let her filibuster all day long, but
not on the our watch, not on our time, No way.
Speaker 2: We clear.
Speaker 7: I told you about that Attorney general before you start.
Speaker 5: You don't tell me.
Speaker 8: I did tell you, because you saw what you did
in the center.
Speaker 2: Lawyer not even a lawyer. Now, I would normally say, Danny,
you go to like you're down to the insult.
Speaker 4: You've kind of hit the intellectual eject button in the argument, right,
I mean it would I would say that.
Speaker 3: Like I ever seen Lauren Babbert, who's the representative from
Colorado calling a host on CNN a washed up loser
or something like that, And I'm like, well, what was
the argument?
Speaker 2: All I know is that, like I don't know what
the argument is.
Speaker 3: I just know that, like she's just going to insults
when you have to go to the insult box.
Speaker 2: The augument's over.
Speaker 4: We'll hang on now, hang on now, hang on just
a second, hold that thought and see if you agree
with her what I'm about to say to you, because
when I saw this, I go, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Sure, Pambot.
Speaker 4: At that point, they're basically telling her that We're not
going to let you run on and on and on. Well,
she has nothing she can really say to that on
any level, not intellectual, not anything.
Speaker 2: Right, you're sort of at their mercy.
Speaker 4: So to come back and insult people sometimes it's not
because you lost, it's because you're trying to win the crowd.
Speaker 2: Okay, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And it's a world we live in now, and you're
trying to win the style you got it. It's performance aggression.
It's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: Christ Colt said, so wo what did he say? Nothing?
Speaker 2: I just made fun of the rack, and I go,
that's different from intellectual defeat. This is an intellectual defeat.
Speaker 6: This is that you can let her filibuster all day long,
but not.
Speaker 2: On arguing issues. Just not on our time, no way.
Speaker 7: And I told you about that Attorney General before you start.
Speaker 2: You don't tell me.
Speaker 8: I did tell you because I saw what you did
in the center.
Speaker 2: Lawyer not even a lawyer, she married, she married. I
don't either. I don't know however, whoever has to deal
with that. Oh God, you can hear that like slightly southern.
Speaker 3: Tell me, are you but you washed up loser?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But when you drop washed up loser. I would normally go, okay,
once loser comes right, intellectual eject button, you're out.
Speaker 2: You're out of the argument intellectually. But now I'm starting
to think when it when it's some when it's someone
of power, it's like it's it's about winning the crowd
and people want to see this.
Speaker 3: Well then later on, yeah, I didn't get later on
with her, Yeah, yeah, go on, it was this about Epstein. Yes, okay,
it was about Epstein. This is all we're hearing about now.
Speaker 2: And well they're going hard at it because they think
there's more there. Now, there's a lot.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, no one's going
to get prosecuted for this.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, it's really I'm fortunate, right, it's awful.
But she go, but she's not saying like it's I
don't mean that for anything. It's like, believe me, there
are people on.
Speaker 2: Both sides of the aisle, yes, that had something to
do with it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we made we actually know a guy named
the Bitiness Flow.
Speaker 2: He's not he's not invulved. Bobby Slayton didn't go go ahead,
didn't tell the story.
Speaker 3: Bobby Slayton is not involved in the Epstein situation.
Speaker 2: But they they went and got all the emails, or
not all of them. They're getting.
Speaker 4: They're letting us see certainty, just I think to satiate us.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, because like there's there's a lot more they're
not going to show us, and there's a lot that's redacted. Okay,
But Bobby Slayton it has since told Jeffrey Epstein he'd
rather be in Manhattan having lunch or dinner with him
than going to that crap hole Rochester to do. I
think the hell whole of roches of comedy is Rochester,
New York or something like that, Okay, And you know
it'll be so I'm just saying, we know people who
are like, it's kind of funny when it hits home. U.
Speaker 2: Well, is funny. And I and and and I.
Speaker 3: Found that in that vein if he were like doing
something bad, that'd be different.
Speaker 2: I would be supposed to.
Speaker 4: Go to dinner with Woody Allen and he goes, I
wish I was going to dinner with you and Woody Allen.
And then I think he Epstein was a fan of
stand up comedy, so I think he took.
Speaker 2: Lewis Black to a dinner there with him. I don't remember.
I wish. I was so tempted to call Bobby, but
then I'm like.
Speaker 3: He's probably getting it from all sides.
Speaker 4: Bobby was a friend of mine and I don't even
know that we were really friends. We hung out. I
opened for him a few times. I am seed for him.
Let me rephrase that. I I don't want to say
the wrong way. I am seed the shows he did
and uh I and we hung out with each other
and he's come on the podcast graciously many times. But
he's brother Weez's friend. You know, they were tight and
uh so I don't I don't know about Uh yeah,
I wouldn't call.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's just like there's he's like Sean Gruden Washington, the
Washington Redskins got investigated, and Seohan Grudge just happened to
like call de Morris Smith, the head of the Players
Association by a certain name. This was fifteen years before
they opened up these emails because of that email had
nothing to do with anything that were being investigated for.
Speaker 2: And so it becomes news.
Speaker 4: Well, yes it gets out. We can't have people we
just you just can't write.
Speaker 3: And he's the NFL and it's it's advancing, like it's
going to the next level.
Speaker 2: I don't think. My only question for Bobby is like,
how cool that you're mentioned? Like that's my thing? I go, God, damn,
you got mentioned in the file. He do it?
Speaker 3: He could play Epstein bingo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And by the.
Speaker 2: Way, Bobby has I would I would absolutely bet all
the money in my bank account. That's not that much,
but I would bet all that that He never would
do something like that because he has a daughter who
he loved and her mother died and it was just
her and Bobby when she was like sixteen seven team
I think she died and h Sasha I think is
her name, and really pretty girl. She was in a
girl group for a while. But Bobby, I just go,
how could you go?
Speaker 4: And the one I'm curious about honestly in the Epstein
files and don't want to get back to the arguing
thing Peter Tia No.
Speaker 2: Okay, Bill Gates. Oh yeah, I'm just curious about Bill Gates.
I really am, because I because so philanthropic and yet
some of this stuff he did, if you hear about
it or read about it, depends on where you hear
the information.
Speaker 4: Again, I always go I'm not so sure, but kind
of controlling in a way. Yes, you know, and money
is power and you have control when you have that.
Speaker 3: But I, at one point the richest man in the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So what do you do when someone throws.
Speaker 2: An insult tag you in an argument?
Speaker 9: Me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate arguing. So yeah, whatever, Okay, yep you
in Yep, that's right.
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't fire.
Speaker 3: I'm a doucia, soaurus I just repeat what back what
they say, I'm a douce to source put back. Then
Pam BONDI said, look at the economy, look at the
Dow Joe, look at.
Speaker 2: The S and B five hundred.
Speaker 3: Okay, she's deflecting. She was deflecting basically, look at the
stock market. Why are we talking about this?
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're not answering the question, right, right, Okay, Yeah,
I mean I've been in situations like that, even just
sort of recently, where I've had to say to somebody,
I'm not here to litigate the past. I'm not I'm
Mark mcgworth. I'm here to well, I'm not here to
litigate the past. Well, it's done, is done. I can't
change them. I want to have things moving forward, and
believe it or not, we're on the same page. It
was a statement I've recently made, and I go, okay,
you know a lot of people thought when that happens.
Speaker 2: Yet, go ahead.
Speaker 3: When people argue, you need to remember you can't look
at your person like as an adversary. You need to
look at them as a partner.
Speaker 2: You're a person, Yes, the person you're.
Speaker 3: Arguing with, you actually want to look at them as
a partner. If you're really trying to solve the issue, Yeah,
you really want to look at them as a partner.
Speaker 2: And that way you'll actually But.
Speaker 4: Sometimes even in a like okay, I thought you're talking
more about romantic relationship, no nostand what you're saying in.
Speaker 3: Other words, like you and I are on opposite sides
of a certain subject. You know, it's the argument becomes
more productive if I look at you as a partner
than an adversary, right, And that way we come to
a conclusion that where we could both learn from.
Speaker 2: Who do who? Do most people our age argue with
younger people? Do you think so older people? I don't
have an answer. I have an answer. I don't know
that it's a correct answer, but I have an answer.
Are people are as people somewhere in our age who
do they argue most with? And I would think it's
their partner, their spouse.
Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I think you
meant like non extors like to argue with millennials.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I've phrased that wrong. But so that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: My wife and I don't argue at all. I think
it's a little weird.
Speaker 2: Okay, but but maybe you should.
Speaker 4: Or at least bring things up, because otherwise, if nothing's
brought up and everything's boring all the time, a little
little spark once in a while.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're very affectionate her, all reped ups think I
should Yeah, boo, tonight we're gonna play lawn darts.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean when you name call it destroys progress.
Speaker 4: Then there's people who just freeze right, nothing goes forward
because they.
Speaker 2: I've been in that situation.
Speaker 4: You freeze right, you can't think, well, you start to
internalize it, what is this really?
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, now instead of like
you know, you're not listening anymore in the argument, why
are you saying that to me? And then five minutes later,
Why didn't I say this exactly?
Speaker 2: You feel like George Costanza. It's it's like a bill here.
Speaker 3: It's like, why did I say that?
Speaker 2: I do that?
Speaker 3: I was thinking about that earlier.
Speaker 4: I think the people that usually win, and I think,
if if you're in a relationship, pay attention to this
for a second. The people that win are the ones
that can regulate and use a calm tone. I really do,
even if the other person is like raising their voice
and doing things. And think back to moments in your life,
whether it be with a partner, a coworker, and anybody,
a girlfriend at one point, a boyfriend at one point,
you know, because you don't reward the insult by giving
them anything.
Speaker 2: And I even.
Speaker 4: Got something. I was out somewhere and I just thought
of this. Now a couple argument kind of breaks out
and the guy says something to his wife like, yeah,
you're such a wherever you get to be such a
mouthy bitch.
Speaker 2: Or something to that effect. And I think she said,
if we're done name calling. It was always like being
scolded by a.
Speaker 3: Teacher, accusations aud it, Well that's what it's called.
Speaker 2: If we're done name calling, and actually like to get
back to the actual issue here, which is the fact
that you're drawn and we need to go home. Yes,
and did, but I remember thinking, oh, that's that's different.
My parents didn't do that. They were screaming at each other.
Speaker 3: But I think we have more information now to understand
how to. We have more thought leaders and more information
and podcasts and people who specialize in psychology to kind
of who have written books and given us better ideas
on how to do that. Our parents' generation, like they
were raised by the World War two generation, they didn't
have time to find their innercesse I get that work
on their personal growth.
Speaker 4: I'm sure I can take that as an answer anymore.
I hear what you're saying and I understand it, and
I will say.
Speaker 2: This, it was to the mood, Alice. I will say this.
Speaker 4: I think that everybody I like to believe this, and
I sometimes waffle a little bit, but everybody is doing
the best, did the best.
Speaker 2: They could with what they had, right, Okay, So if
we go with that, So that's it.
Speaker 4: However, the generational trauma that went on in my family,
all right, we hear about generational trauma. That's different. Intergenerational trauma.
Mom and dad fought a lot. They screamed in front
of each other. I find somebody who does that same
dance with me. I yell and scream in front of
my kids. Those kids grow up, they find somebody that
does it. It's intergenerational trauma, and it really is, and
it's something that just never kind of resolves. And what
you wind up doing is this awful dance. It's drinking.
It's the you know what I mean, And I gotta
tell you I saw it in my family. I mean
terribly so, terribly terribly so. And that's where I think,
like the name calling often happens more with divorce, co parenting,
that sort of thing, and if you can stay away
from them, I mean, just keep that not it's not
even a dickish tone.
Speaker 2: Tone.
Speaker 4: The big joke used to be that, you know, it's
it's not what you said, it's how you said. It's
your tone. You know, I think I even heard it's
your tone, Tony.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean that's that's part of communication, right,
But seven thirty eight fifty five thirty eight of it.
Speaker 4: Is tone, right, So I think tone is important and
that's where I go. If you can regulate and reframe
and keep your tone. That's because those.
Speaker 2: Things can be tough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even workplace disputes. I had workplace disputes when we
work together all the time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we did too with each other. Yeah, it's
not not that many, but mostly it was upstairs. Ye,
but that would boil down to us. We'd be under
pressure and then you know, so things would boil over.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing that I thought. I heard somebody
say once that Richard Nixon normalized lying because of the
Watergate scandal.
Speaker 2: Iron monocrocal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he normalized lying that when you see and
this was somebody like years ago, and I thought I
thought about that a lot, and I go, well, maybe
maybe I don't know what they're saying. Basically, is leaders
set the tone. This is normalized now, so people lie.
Maybe that's true, Maybe that's not so. Now he takes
the insults, right, we got Pam Bondy.
Speaker 2: But I mean, even I keep saying, I gotta say
it again. I don't know where we end up. But god,
I laughed, laugh.
Speaker 3: It's opening the door to look like a Banana republic. Yes,
this is what happened to Banana republica.
Speaker 4: But it lowers the temperature standard is exactly what I
was thinking, Like this standard right now, we've just lowered
the level.
Speaker 2: We've come down.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if the one thing I will
say because I often thought about that quote that I
don't even remember where who said it or where I
heard it, but Richard Nixon normalized line and I always thought, Wolly,
that seems a little and it was something that just
kept rattling around in my head for many years now,
and I thought maybe, I mean, maybe that's true. And
now when you see this, we see more insults. Now,
maybe that's maybe we don't maybe maybe people are going,
all right, but enough of this. We got to go
the other way.
Speaker 2: But I think it just shows that that dominance, right,
that's what that is.
Speaker 4: It's dominance. I'm going to dominate. This thing is more
powerful than dialogue. And we don't see a whole lot
of dialogue right now.
Speaker 2: No, nobody's trying to learn, they're trying.
Speaker 3: To win well or are they performing? Because that too
for the viral clip, what goes viral?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she told them, Danny, she told them along was
this this thing, and I don't know that this is
like ten seconds.
Speaker 6: This is you can let her filibuster all day long,
but not on our watch, not on our time.
Speaker 2: No way.
Speaker 7: And I told you about that Attorney general before you start.
Speaker 2: You don't tell me.
Speaker 8: I did tell you because I saw what you did
in the center.
Speaker 2: Lawyer, not even a lawyer, a lawyer, Oh god, oh god.
Every guy has to got to go there is you.
Speaker 4: I don't care if you're even if that, if that's
your side of the aisle, if you're a man, and
you hear that, your figure guts to tell you.
Speaker 2: God damn it. Here we go again. Yep, Oh yeah,
the big thing is outrage like that travels faster than nuance,
the actual.
Speaker 4: PAMBONDI saying nothing to that and playing by the rules
would be fucking boring.
Speaker 3: Right Well, that's called every day I'm serious.
Speaker 5: But it's a artisan is structural shit.
Speaker 2: It's a fucking noise, is what it is.
Speaker 4: When people go But you know what, what people I
don't know if it's true or not, but we hear
about they're trying to distract you.
Speaker 2: They're trying to distract you. That's a fucking distraction right there.
And I don't even know anybody did it on purpose.
She was probably really pissed yes, legitimately, but it's a distraction.
It means nothing. They're not talking about an issue.
Speaker 3: No, this was the issue within the issue within the issue.
Speaker 4: Right discussing, and I think, like the guy who called
Bjshay a washed up loser on other thing, and it
made me laugh on my I did chuckle.
Speaker 2: I got a chuckle.
Speaker 4: And then BJ comes back to basically saying everything I've
said here. If you're if this is where you're reaching to,
I'm happy to get back to talk about the issue.
But if this is it, then the argument is over. Yeah,
And it was kind of I'm summarizing what he said.
They're synopsizing, but.
Speaker 2: You can see it.
Speaker 4: And I will say, arguments, I don't think arguments end
when somebody wins.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I think the arguments will end when someone regulates, when
someone keeps it even tone. I will tell you this,
And I don't know the kind of house you grew
up in. I know the stereotype of Italians is loud,
right and yelly and almost like they're talking yelling, and
or they're yelling but they don't like. People aren't even
emotionally bothered by it because it's just the normal volume, right,
or even the speech pattern of the tone.
Speaker 2: Here he comes.
Speaker 4: You know, the number of people that I know or
have met over the years who never heard their parents argue.
And that's why when I when you said to me,
they came from the World War two generation. Okay, but
the number of people I know who did not hear
their parents argue, like they knew they were disagreements, but
they wouldn't argue in front of the kids.
Speaker 3: And my parents never argued in front of us. You
knew something was up, but they never argued.
Speaker 2: It never got loud with each other.
Speaker 3: My father would, my mother would shed just go cry.
But the point was, but they never they never.
Speaker 4: It was never a back and forth Okay, yeah, dominant
yeah over dialogue.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I got it because I said so.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the loudest person wins the room. Right. Oh,
he wanted to know my father, you just want to
shut up because.
Speaker 3: I'm louder than everybody else. And there are times, now
it's an adult where I wish I could go back
and actually, hey, Dad, now that i'm your age, when
you were you know, my age, I'd like to talk
to you about it.
Speaker 2: Few things.
Speaker 3: The way you handled certain things.
Speaker 4: Well, the louder, the loudest person wins the room, and
I think the commons person could potentially win the future.
You win the future because you're probably going to be
heard and regularly. But it is we pay attention to
the cartoon character.
Speaker 2: This is what we did, and that's the distraction. I
think it is a little bit. And I don't know
that it's an intentional distraction. I don't think it. I
don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but Jesus, but the cartoon character can
come through though. Like remember that episode of the Office
where Michael Scott all of a sudden, they're all at
these meetings in New York and they're handing out per
diems and Mikelake, you know, he doesn't he they're all
in meetings and he's just screwing off having parties in
his room, and then out of nowhere, he closes a
dealer with another paper company. They're like, oh, wow, we undermasturbated.
Speaker 2: You guess maybe you should estimate me.
Speaker 3: You know, It's it's weird because when that guy's in
charge and getting stuff done, you're like, you'll put up
with the cartoon type of stuff that goes on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there is there is certainly an argument
to be made for that.
Speaker 3: But I saw some maga people today going uh oh,
and I'm like, over Pompambondi and I'm like, okay, well
have you been paying attention.
Speaker 4: I mean, it is a weird thing when we start
as adults just hurdling insults like that. I mean, it
can be funny and it can be stuff, but when
we start, you know, every every single thing that flies
in the face, it's it's not even deflected as much
as it's just it's just shit on.
Speaker 2: There's not even shut down. It is shit on.
Speaker 4: And that's not an argument because anybody can do that.
Give me some kind of substance here, And I think
that's becoming a bigger issue.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 4: Will usually wins, like I really do think at least
you win the future, right, you win the future. And
I wish we could get back to cooler heads and
actually have some dialogue in any because I think this
is across the board for so many take politics out
of it. Politics, of course, is the first thing that's
going to pop in. Everybody said, because everything is going
to become a political thing. But on any issue, you
just wish that it would, and it does make me
wonder when I look at this and go if the
leaders are doing it and we see it more, could
the person be right about Richard Nixon normalizing line.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but we will will take a moment.
I have an interesting I haven't watched much.
Speaker 2: Of the Olympics. I haven't either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to. I enjoy like some of the stuff.
The skiing I could get into and then I used
to love watching.
Speaker 2: Although I got to tell you, as much as I
love to go fast, I don't think i'd like bob sledding. No,
I'm not sure that I would like bob sledding because
I don't know that I'm in control that I think
that's just a whole lot of gravity and going fucking fast.
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything I'm doing other than
talking and praying. You know what I mean, at least,
whether it's whether it's a placebo or not.
Speaker 2: I got a brake pedal at a steering wheel. I
think I got a little more control. I saw like
I was watching from a guy's view, and I go,
I'm not sure I want to get tossed around and
not know that I can kind of, you know, slow
into a turn, fast out of a turn. Yeah, I
mean you go away up a fucking wall.
Speaker 3: I don't know you're driving, but you ain't got no wheels,
there's no gas pedal, there's no break, and I don't.
Speaker 2: Know that you're I guess you're serting. But it looks
like it stays on the track itself. Yes, so it's
really bad.
Speaker 3: I watch Cool Runnings Bill and apparently the driver is
it has to do all the work.
Speaker 2: Everybody else just has to go. He does drive. Yeah,
is there pedals in there?
Speaker 3: I don't know if. I don't know if there's pedals,
but like there's I think.
Speaker 4: There was still there is okay, but maybe I take
it back. But what I'm thinking is I thought, or
maybe it's de loge this. You're laying plasted dude on
the sledge. Oh yeah that yeah, I mean that is
like I feel like you have no control.
Speaker 2: And even the.
Speaker 4: Bob sled, I felt like it was a lot of
body weight shifting, like you needed to shift your weight. Yes,
and if I'm doing that, I want to be in
a in a one man bob sled, not a two
man bob slip because I will blame him for it
is if we roll over, even.
Speaker 2: If it was my what do you mean you a fat?
Ask you shift and I tell you not?
Speaker 3: Pharsa walker, and I for when he's going through his personalities.
He wanted to be a bob sledter or was it
ninety eight, I don't remember. He was trying to be
a bob sledter because he couldn't he couldn't get in
the sled fast enough. Oh, he never made the team.
He couldn't get in the sled.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean, certainly big, he gets speed, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
his thighs are probably way too big, too muscular.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: Uh, well, something happened at the Olympics that transcends the Olympics,
and we will get to it right after this. Ever,
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Speaker 5: Second, I love.
Speaker 10: The songs you shut You said, why.
Speaker 5: Did you knew with him today?
Speaker 10: And snub me out like I was saying, because you're
my fellow, my God, have me your fellow in fly
five time I'm out.
Speaker 5: The door, your tam Man down, li Rod. I see
him myself like I knew, I will lie. Have I
told you I was trouble? You know?
Speaker 2: Let im know over. I wish they would bring this
back the style of pop music. Somebody probably will. Somebody
probably will. She did a great job.
Speaker 3: She was she was a musical genius. She was talented.
She could play instruments and she could write. Yeah, but
unfortunately it was trouble. Yeah, she was troubled well, twenty
seven club Speaking of the twenty seven clubs, do you
hear the Kirk Cobain story?
Speaker 2: No, I knew Vanderbeek died today. Yeah, he did forty eight. Yes,
stage three.
Speaker 3: I know my father had Stage four. He lasted four years.
Speaker 2: Well, stage three when they found it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if my father was stage four when
they found it. Yeah, fantasticized to his liver. Okay, so
that's why I was like, oh, yeah, I don't know.
And then Brad Arnold from three doors down just died
of colon cancer too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's a weird thing because I have I'm due for
a colonoscopy and I went in for the accidental physical.
Speaker 2: I told you about that. Yes, yeah, how many drinks
you're having a week?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I said, and again I goes, you're overdue,
bah bah. I get a text message they don't even
call you anymore. Hey, we have an opening Thursday at
three o'clock to poke your act Like I'm thinking, I go, cli, well,
I couldn't tell if it was spam. Wept saying you
have are at the top, and I'm going, what is
so I had to say no because I got fishery stuff.
I have fisher But I'm like, that's a little scary though.
Was that quick?
Speaker 2: And they don't even call you anymore, like at least
when you used to, when you used to be you
could say not that day? What else do you have? Right?
And I got a human there now it's like it's right, yeah, Wren.
And I'm like I was weird. It's just the world
we're in. Yeah. Whatever.
Speaker 3: But like with the cobaine thing. Yeah, And there's a
bit off detected named Tom Grant for years who has
maintained that this was a homicide. This was not a suicide.
Nobody in Seattle believed him. People tried to throw him
off the scent. The police departments always argued, no, he
doesn't know what he's talking about. Really, Well, an independent
group came in and studied the evidence and have determined
that yes, this was in fact a homicide.
Speaker 2: Really yes, really, So what did Courtney Love do? That's
what everybody's waiting.
Speaker 3: For hard to prove now right, Well yeah, now, but
I mean there's no statute of limitations on the biggest
thing was he can't approve it, they said. But the
big thing was there was ten times the amount of
heroin that would kill somebody. Oh in somebody, even a
heroin addict.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't do that, wouldn't do that. But I thought he'd
died of a self afflicted gunshot.
Speaker 3: But his shoes were on. If you're going to shoot
a gun shot, you're gonna use a shot gun, you're
gonna take your shoe and your sock off and use
your big toe to like pull the trigger. He had
too much heroin in the system to even stand up,
let alone do that. And they found the shellcasing where
they found the gun, the shellcasing, it's going to be
in a certain vicinity.
Speaker 2: Yeah it wasn't.
Speaker 3: That was the first to get tipped off Tom Grant,
And for years nobody wanted to take him seriously. There's
a documentary called Soaked and Bleach about it. Well, now
an independent group has come in and investigated said, oh,
this was a homicide.
Speaker 2: Say this for thirty years, Bill, Wow, and you believed it.
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean I was a little when I was a
little I was fourteen when I'm like, well, this suicide.
But they ruled in a suicide immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. I was like, wow, that's quick. He
was fourteen years old.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, that's really fast.
Speaker 2: Well, I would think that you would walk in and
know it's a suicide.
Speaker 4: Nobody else is around, there's a note, there's blood, it
looks like the gun was in his mouth, and that's
what I would, you know, And I would go maybe
what he did was like have it where he could
kick a door and the door pulled the trigger. I
don't know, you know what I'm saying, like somehow, you mean,
and that's why the shoes.
Speaker 3: Were but the between the wound and everything else that happened,
there's certain ways that if you're alive, that your blood
will spill. They said this was the cleanest suicide they've
ever seen. Suicides are a messy crime scene.
Speaker 2: I can't read all that stuff. I know, it's hard.
Speaker 3: I just Chris Cornell, it's like all a suddeny rulled
Oh yeah, tell you it's a it was a suicide.
Usually it takes about six weeks for them to figure
out what's going on. So people are starting to wonder, Okay,
who's in on this?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to go there, No,
let us not.
Speaker 4: I want to go back to the song we just heard,
which is about you, and she's admitting to cheating in
that song, right, and I will ask when have you
messed up?
Speaker 2: And everyone knew?
Speaker 4: And I don't even mean necessarily romantically, but you've messed
up and everyone knows. And just think about that first,
like I don't even have to say anything. And then
I want you to imagine winning the bronze medal and
calling it the worst week of your life, because that
is exactly what happened for an Olympic Nordic skier out
of Norway. He wins the bronze and breaks down, crying
and saying that he feels like he lost the gold
medal of life with this woman that he loved and
he cheated on her. And he's saying this now and
national television through tears.
Speaker 3: So he just basically melted down. Yeah, and from what
I can gather, a cathartic sad state.
Speaker 2: From what I can gather, he cheated and then admitted
it to her a while ago.
Speaker 4: That's what I was gathering in one story, and she
knew he had already confessed privately. But now he goes
on it's national TV in Norway and admits it, and
so now everyone knows. So here, So now they're at
the it's after the race. The winners go up, kind
of like uh PGA, when they, you know, the golfers finished.
They come up and they sit at a dais and
they get asked questions. And this is what happened at
the Olympics.
Speaker 2: Listen to this. It's a it's a pretty good.
Speaker 9: You talked in the mixed shown about about meeting your
love of your life and cheating on her.
Speaker 2: But how do you feel about it right now? Do
you think it was the right choice? Hard?
Speaker 9: Yeah, if it's the right choice or not, but it
was the choice I made. We make different choices during
our life, and that's how you make life basically. So
today I made the choice to tell the world what
I did. So maybe maybe there's a chance that she
will see what she really means to me, and maybe not,
but I don't want to think I didn't try everything
to get her back. So yeah again you want I
don't want to steal the show today. I hope, I
hope this is just like a day or two long
thing and then then your Olympic medalist forever.
Speaker 2: First, what I have to say this a completely off
topic on this.
Speaker 4: The fact that you can answer such a question in
a language that is not your native language is so
impressive to me, right, especially in English, and English is
being spoken like I didn't realize that you have to
speak English in every cockpit around the around the world,
not the country, the world. It's called aviation English, and
they try to teach that to all the crew members
of every flight around the world. So English is kind
of becoming the international language. But I'm like, that's where
when he goes, that is uh, that's his life, it's
it's life. Uh yeah, because I go I don't know
what else.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. Can you come up with a
word that quickly? They always say, you.
Speaker 4: Know another language well enough when you dream in it.
I've never dreamt in another language. I've never dreamt an Italian?
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you? But can you speak it?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, but it was spoken around you, Yes, often you
could occasion and you when you were a kid, Yeah,
and you could understand it. Not really Okay, all right,
I don't know. I'm just saying, like, to me, that's
that's impressive.
Speaker 2: Impressive.
Speaker 4: But here's I don't know. I don't I don't know
how I would feel if that were me. I don't
know how I would feel if I did it and
told I don't know. It's excep to me. This isn't
about cheating. It's about the confession the cheating, and I go,
people usually do it out of guilt.
Speaker 3: Well, was he caught before he admitted it?
Speaker 2: I don't think he was caught.
Speaker 4: I think he just it was weighing on him so
much that he said to her, I have to tell
you about something, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he couldn't just tell her, he had to tell
the world.
Speaker 4: Well, he told her and then he and and I
think he hadn't heard from her after that. And I
think in the latest article she said that it's uh,
it's a very hard thing to get over.
Speaker 3: That's why he was he was like trying to like
reach out.
Speaker 2: I think he's reaching out, you know, is it me
you're looking for?
Speaker 3: But that's a terrible Norwegian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's like I can't live with the weight anymore.
Like sometimes you'll heart's take it away from that murders,
Like somebody just goes, I can't take it anymore, all right.
You just carried around that guilt and after so many years,
you know, or I think I remember seeing somebody saying
after they were caught after thirty five years on the
run or thirty five years, I don't even know if
they were on the run. They were probably in the
same vicinity, but no one could pin it to that person.
And when they did, through more or better technology as
it was developed, the person goes, I feel somewhat relieved
because I've been carrying this around for so long that
I was like, that's weird thing to say.
Speaker 3: But Matt, maybe, yeah, I could see that psychotagy and
plays different games with different people. I get pretty messed
up to do something like that, of course, So I mean,
I'm not surprised by the psychology of relief. I mean
it's it's almost like it's kind of strange to us
because we're thinking logically. But I mean, I remember Ron
Washington was the manager of the Texas Rangers, brought them
to the World Series Back to back gears. They lost both.
In fact, they had a lot of Buffalo Bills jokes
because they were actually like a one hour away from
winning it one year. And then he decides to call
a press conference on a Thursday afternoon to announced that
he was cheating on his wife.
Speaker 2: Well, I round a third and slid home, but not
with her.
Speaker 3: It's like, holy cow, serious, seriously, dude, I mean, like
what he really did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all kind.
Speaker 3: Of like, you know, like Sports World was like that
was awkward. Why do we need to know about it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Because it's like I can't keep continuing a lie or
or I'll say this letterman was great with this. I
control the narrative, Yes, right now, Dave was coming out
ahead of it and probably spoke to his wife, right,
but might have been forced to speak to his wife
because I think this stuff had gone on. He was
trying to be they were going to extort him, which
somebody was going to try to extort him exactly with
video or whatever. And so he came out and he
confessed it. And it is the idea of if I
tell it first, I control the narrative. I'm not sure
that in the manager's case. I wonder if this other
woman goes either you say something or I'm saying something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so maybe hey, you don't know they got.
Speaker 3: Up next top tens. Apologies to my wife for cheating.
Speaker 4: I don't know if this was Richard Nixon or Gerald
Ford or I maybe I have the wrong president altogether.
I think because my father used to quote it all
the time. When they have you buy the balls, your
heart and mind will follow, you know what I mean.
And that's that's that's.
Speaker 2: Kind of it.
Speaker 4: You know, there is argument though, to not say anything
yea in these situations. I mean, it just is like,
even if you carry tremendous skill, right and that that's
a you thing. And sometimes I think it's almost selfish
to then admit it.
Speaker 2: Oh I made this terrible mistake. Oh fuck you. You
know what I mean, A fuck you. I'm sorry for yourself, yes,
and it's this big So then so then what you
get to you know, that was really brave. You stood
up there, you were a brave Yeah, you know it
was brave.
Speaker 4: Is when you had your fucking pants down, you're dick
buried and somebody that wasn't your wife.
Speaker 2: And I don't think this guy, by the way, is married.
I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 4: But and look, sometimes a confession could traumatize.
Speaker 2: A lot of people.
Speaker 4: Right if you were married and have children and then
you went and had an affair and they find out,
you could have a really rough relationship forever there. If
you have a daughter, you could have this whole trust
issue with.
Speaker 2: Men after that.
Speaker 4: There's all kinds of I mean, there's real shit that
can come out of that. So that you may keep
your mouth shut, and I don't know, it kind of
shifts the emotional.
Speaker 2: Burden a little bit.
Speaker 4: Too, because you know, it's not so much on you
now now it's on the person who you fucked over.
Oh it's selfish relief.
Speaker 3: I think sometimes I wonder where the manipulation came into,
or if manipulation came in as a factor for him
to have to admit this, or.
Speaker 2: Well somebody saying it. I think he was just look,
these guys do these It was a twenty ca So
give me, what's that? A marathon on skis?
Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, it looks hard as hell, and these guys
make it look so right, right, like the one guy
who went up the hill and went viral.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just fucking like those yellow blades.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no big deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember see on my Nordic track from the nineties.
Speaker 4: There is a lot of school schools in our area
have Nordic ski teams and they you can join and
you can go up to the top of Bristol Mountain
and it's a circle and they have races up there
and stuff. And I think you can get a season pass,
like get a season passed for downhill and you're talking
I don't even somewhere. Probably five, not that many, but
depends if you get your family. It's gonna cost you
a lot. It's fifty bucks for a season ticket at
the tower.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 4: It was yeah, because my neighbor, who was a professional
cyclist in the winter, he would go up and do
that kind of skiing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can't.
Speaker 2: I'd be cross country skiing and he'd be laughing me. Yeah,
he'd be I want the fucking dude. That is a dude.
Speaker 4: That is a workout. So now you're exhausted. You come
through and the whole thing on your mind is you
cheated on your girlfriend. You told her she sent you
to the Olympics. She was probably gonna come with you
and cheer you on. Be ringing the cow bell or
whatever they.
Speaker 2: Do there and she's not there moment without her.
Speaker 3: You got a picture because you pictured this whole thing.
Speaker 4: Got it?
Speaker 3: Visualize winning, visualize you got it, Dan, Visualize yourself on
the metal stand bronze medal because you're a Bills fanc
You're never gonna get the gold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at least you get something that's from the Olympics.
Speaker 5: You get up there.
Speaker 4: It's like I would always say this, I'd never want
to win silver. I never want to win silver because
it means I was second best.
Speaker 2: I just like, just like, hey man, bronzot even if
I like I tweaked a muscle, I was projected to
be the runaway gold. I tweaked my fucking hammy coming
around you know, the third turn or whatever. That was
more of a racing.
Speaker 3: Well, did you wear the Dream Team in ninety two? Yes,
So when they won the gold, Croatia won the silver,
and Lithuania won the bronze. Lithuania, lithuan me and basketball
team were outfitted with tied I T shirts from The
Grateful Dead, and those dudes look like, man, we're just
happy to be here. TUSA. They're high five of the
Louith the way he hits. They're taking pictures at Croatia
is standing there like we had no shot? Yeah, none,
and then draw not draw some Petrovitch but I think
it was Tony Kukach said, well, we do United States.
Speaker 2: This is like winning gold.
Speaker 3: But he didn't say it with a little smile on
his face. He was like, we couldn't beat these guys,
which they had no shot, of course, but like you're
right like first and third here, like you know, but second, oh,
forget it.
Speaker 2: I always I did. I always thought that I'd go.
Speaker 4: You never want to be the second because it meant
you you're usually right in them running there, I mean, impressive,
impressive as hell, but let's just get really just on
the level I would go, I'd rather slow down and
another guy gets the silver. Yeah, maybe I'm in danger
of not even making the podium, but I want I
would rather the bronze.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, just.
Speaker 3: You're the Nancy Carrigan. I got it there unless somebody
hit my knee first, then it looks like an accomplishment.
But yeah, you want to talk about a situation where
everybody knows you screwed up?
Speaker 2: Did you see?
Speaker 3: Will was it Will Campbell, the the left tackle with
the New England Patriots. He had a lot he had
rough playoffs, and he had a horrible Super Bowl. So
after the Super Bowl, whether they like it or not,
after games, you got to talk to the media, and
he blew them off. Yeah, and he got a lot
of crap for that. So it's almost like he doubled
down on his pain. And so he apologized on Monday,
and he's got tears in his eyes for not talking
to anybody. But it's like the fact that he didn't
talk actually made it worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the game. It was a terrible game.
But you don't want to I don't know. You gotta
face the music, and it sucks. It sucks.
Speaker 3: And he's twenty two to twenty three years old.
Speaker 2: He's a young kid, and in that situation.
Speaker 3: I know what it's like to be that age and
screw up and sure, but you know, like I've had,
like I remember kinda yelled at radio at that age
and much older. But you gotta face the music. You
got you gotta face the music.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You gotta grow up. You got you get. You make
a lot of money here. No one's feeling bad for that.
Speaker 4: That's right, Danny. We were giving you a behavioral change
over time. That's what you were looking for, behavioral change.
Speaker 2: I don't tell you people now.
Speaker 3: The break group is a great trading ground for growing up,
even if it was twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine,
thirty thirty one, thirty two.
Speaker 2: Thirty three.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of couples who survived affairs, and
I know one or two. Oh, I know if you
that survived affairs? Yes, yeah, did they ever? I would
love to know they turned to christ I'm not joking, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's usually when a lot of guys
do well. You want because you don't want to lose
half your shit and your kids.
Speaker 3: Well in divorce, Let's be honest, the man's good the
most to lose. That's why most men are not most men,
A lot of guys are now just like, I'm not
doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 3: I have the most to lose. You have nothing to lose.
Why would I risk at all?
Speaker 4: Well, I think too, if you're gonna stay with somebody,
there's a difference between regret regret. As I got caught,
I wish I didn't. Remorse is I'm truly sorry.
Speaker 2: I heard you. You know what I mean. Yeah, there
is a difference there, and you got to be able
to know the difference and.
Speaker 3: Know how there's a thin line, but you got to
know it.
Speaker 4: But the thing that I'm kinda spins in my head
about this one is you admit it on national TV
in your country. Now, there's a good chance that if
something like that happens, the people closest to her are aware.
I will tell you that had I ever done anything
like this, you think I'm telling margin Bill, No, Okay,
stick a microphone in my face, and now they know.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I talked a lot of
shit on the radio, But they didn't live in the town,
you know for streaming, right, This is this is the
national stuff. You know. Yeah, your your co workers know,
Her friends know, her cousin knows, her aunt, her big
mouth grandmother, everybody in that fucking family knows. They all know,
and they all think you're a piece of shit. That's
what I got. Some of those may be crazy and
reach out to the girl he did it with. Well,
that could be future children if you if you are,
I'm saying I didn't think of that. Dies on the
internet future children. Well no, now you weren't married.
Speaker 3: Right, so wasn't in that country song before Mama was mama?
And those guys dug up all that stuff about their mom.
Speaker 2: Oh, guy, I got was mom. I'm gonna have to
dig that up. So that's where I go.
Speaker 8: Was that.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of mobs who were who weren't
exactly the mom they are now. My mom was a saint,
I'm sure. Oh she was real. I've done the homework.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I have it. But it's Silver Creek. I
mean that's a small town, so the secrets could die
there though too. Yeah, and I was taking this one
of the grave with me, but I just can't your mom.
Speaker 3: My mother couldn't even drive until she married my father.
They taught her how to drive. But yeah, do you
know that song father figured by George Michael. Yes, that's
my parents. My father really like was kind of a
father figure to my mother because they were like nine
years apart, and her father was kind of an absentee.
Speaker 4: Dad, you open your mouth today, it's getting creepier and
creepier with that family.
Speaker 2: He was loud. It's what he did. I want to
go back and tell what were you doing?
Speaker 3: I swear a three years old, I knew I was
never gonna wear a tie, yeah, wear a suit, Yeah,
I was never gonna grow a mustache.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was never gonna be mean. Okay, not that
he was mean, he was just loud. I didn't know
any better. I'm trying to public shaming does it purify?
You've just shamed yourself, like if other people did it
to you.
Speaker 4: The scarlet letter was public shaming, right, you were the
prostitutor whatever, you already had a kid out of adultery,
whatever that was. Uh, I don't because I always feel
like it's a weird thing. This year, twenty twenty six
is a little bit of a weirder, weirder year than
I thought.
Speaker 2: Not a bad year, not everything, but I feel like everything.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty six at some point is content. Go
back to the thing we talked about in the beginning, right,
the argument and how I just said, you're going for
the viral clip. It's it's about winning the crowd. That's
not It's not about winning the argument. It's about winning
the crowd. The com person wins the argument. And you know,
the Pambondi thing wasn't really about an issue. She just
felt like, you're not gonna shut me down, you know,
And it's a powerful I am, it's a powerful I
get that.
Speaker 3: Even though everything on Capitol Hill really is just kabookie theater.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I just feels like everything is content.
So if you're gonna do a live confession, now it's everywhere.
Speaker 2: This is a guy from Norway.
Speaker 3: It was just using normal and he was a bronze
medallist who we don't forget otherwise.
Speaker 2: You got it. He was in the gold.
Speaker 3: He didn't get hitting the knee with a with a
freaking tire iron like Nancy Carriet. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
he didn't lose four straight Super Bowls. No, this is
a there's a Brod's medallist.
Speaker 4: I just think I don't know, man, because almost everybody
has hurt someone not and I'm not even saying through cheating, but.
Speaker 2: Has hurt some one. Yeah right.
Speaker 4: Everybody I believe has hidden something something, Maybe not forever,
but you hit something for a long time, you had
a secret, maybe you're holding one now, maybe you're holding
a secret whatever.
Speaker 2: I think everybody has debated telling the truth. Do I
say this? Do I not say this what happens if
I do? What if happens if I don't?
Speaker 4: How many times I'm sure there's a plus minus column
on a lot of things, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 4: You sometimes wonder and and I always thought, like a
little bit not so much this because can he come
back from a mistake, Like I'm trying to think of
people who did have legitimate comebacks from mistakes President Clinton?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean if they let's put it
this way, in two two thousand, if he could have
had a third term, yeah, he would have won, hands
down over George W.
Speaker 2: Bush.
Speaker 3: America was doing great, and I remember having great Antser said,
I don't care who he screws as long as I
get my Social Security check.
Speaker 2: See that was all. See. Now, did he normalize cheating?
You know what I mean? I mean, we could I'm
just saying.
Speaker 3: And by the way, because we'll think about it after Kennedy,
after Kennedy who was messing around on their Wifey.
Speaker 4: Hang on a second, Maybe I had that wrong. Maybe
it wasn't Nixon, Maybe it was Bill Clinton normalized lying.
Could be I did not have sex with that woe
have sexual relations with that?
Speaker 2: Woman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I remember going in and chopping out the
audio and being so proud of myself and leaving it
for brother. We's who played it?
Speaker 2: Who did this? Is it great?
Speaker 4: Because they said, and I had sex with that woman?
Because you know I did not took that did not out. Yeah,
it's uh.
Speaker 2: I think it was Clinton that they said normalized lying.
I don't know why I thought Nixon, I.
Speaker 3: Guess, well, but yeah, because he denied the whole He denied,
and then and then gerald Ford suffered because of it.
That's how we ended up with Carter.
Speaker 2: Right, But they can't really say that he was aware
of somebody. Well maybe I don't know.
Speaker 4: I couldn't remember the whole thing, but I think it
was Clinton he did, I mean normalized lying and getting.
I mean Bjay's must have become really popular. Michael Lewinsky
was a big Halloween costume.
Speaker 2: Oh she was. Oh yeah, the dress with the blue
dress with the stain on it, those shitty wigs.
Speaker 4: Her hair always looked like a wig. It always looked
like you just wanted to walk up behind her. When
she was younger, yes, and as she got older. She's
she's an attractive woman. You know, she's in her forties.
Speaker 2: She's in her fifties. She looks good.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so, but I used to want to just
go can someone just walk behind her and just kind
of yink it to the right like.
Speaker 2: It's a wig or something, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3: No, that's her hair.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll well end to here. Think about this. The
medals are breaking. I'm sure you're selling this. Oh yeah,
many many people's medals are like falling off the things
that they're on. Oh they're not breaking in half, they're
coming off the chain or I think they're being dropped.
I don't know if somebody's chipped or cracked or whatever.
They're crappily made. Whatever this is I have.
Speaker 4: And by the way, Italy too, I'm very disappointed by
the Italy. By the way, you're coming out with an
electric ferrari, for god's sakes, you know, and you can't
get metals right, You can't get metals right. But they
hired a former designer from Apple to design the inside
of the Ferrari.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's really really fucking cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has his own company now and doesn't. But
either way, to have that foresight, all the things you've
built so many years, and I mean.
Speaker 3: Bought the world how to eat well.
Speaker 2: And outside of the leaning tower piece, you got. Now
these shitty metals, I don't come on get together guys.
But the metal will tarnish, right, yeah they will.
Speaker 4: It's real, and I will say the real podium and
pretty much in life, in your relationship, the real podium
is true and nobody wants to be standing on that
one alone. So I don't know what will happen with
this guy, and we'll have to uh, we'll have to see.
Speaker 3: It's funny how these guys come into our lives every
four years or every eight years, so just a flash
and then oh yeah I.
Speaker 2: Remember so yeah, yeah, yeah, Well any ego I always
think of every once in a while. I don't you
remember him?
Speaker 4: He was a I think he was a British ski jumper, okay,
and like he had no form knowing that I don't
even think he like they just had an open spot
in the Olympics and I'm not doing anything for the
next couple of days.
Speaker 2: I think that was it.
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, or like that guy the Greek shooter,
like the yeah, we just walked in no glasses. Yeah
we're Bonnie Blair. She won the ninety two. Yeah, in Albertville,
she won the gold. She had all these commercials like
who is this? But America had not won a gold
Like for the first week, I was like, oh, body Blair,
who I misspoke?
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the words I just said. Truth is
not the real podium anyway, relationship.
Speaker 4: Trust is the real podium in your relationship, and you
don't want to stand on trust alone because if the
other person doesn't trust.
Speaker 2: You, you're up there by yourself. Yeah, there's no trust,
I say truth trust.
Speaker 4: I was getting my words mixed up, and I'm very
five letters t r U doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I screwed it up.
Speaker 3: We got four to five letters right. That should be
the lesson. You get one letter wrong and we can't
trust you.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well there you go, you can't trust me. We'll
take a moment. This weekend is a big weekend, and
I think we have to help guys out. It's Valentine's weekend.
But what I'm going to talk about shouldn't be It's
not exclusive to that. But I mean as a man
who has failed many, many, many times, and we'll probably
I think I think many many times have I failed?
And I'm sure, I have more failures yet to come,
but I think there's a big difference between effort and intention, gentlemen,
big difference, Oh, effort and intention.
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Speaker 5: I'll go.
Speaker 4: You got this long.
Speaker 5: Bostmas on Shoot, don't kiss me.
Speaker 2: I know this song's about though, it's not I know
what you're gonna say.
Speaker 9: It is not.
Speaker 2: It's not about Kevin. Nope, let's stay corrected. It's about me. No,
it's uh Eric Clapton Is Eric Clapton?
Speaker 3: What about Clapton?
Speaker 4: Clapton was the rumor, and she was asked about that
several times, much along the line.
Speaker 2: Like you know who's you're so vain about?
Speaker 3: And Don Knutson family guy?
Speaker 10: Did that?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: She uh.
Speaker 4: She said that she was with Clapton at the end
of the nineties and she had written this song prior
to that. Now, whether it was the release or I
have no idea because I don't remember when that came out,
and it may have. If she went like ninety eight,
this could have been out in ninety seven, ninety six.
She said, it is an amalgalgu.
Speaker 2: Conga. I can't even fucking talk.
Speaker 3: Now, analgamation. Yeah, it's one of those tricky words.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what I just said. It's just
basically it's a combo platter of a bunch of guys.
Speaker 2: She dated that. She said, you knew they were bad
for you, but yeah, they were irresistible, and I go, yeah,
I've been there. Yeah, I've been there with pretty much
everyone up to my wife Jesus, But isn't that usually
the case? I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, the only one you end up like with
is the last one, that's the idea.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's true. But I mean if someone
wrote a song like this about me, I would be
fucking flattered. Oh god, I would have it played every
time I walked into a room.
Speaker 2: I would. I would just have that line go, you know,
but you were my favorite mistake and be like, hey,
I am available, and she vouches. I'm verified, I'm verified,
I'm pussy.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 3: That's why I can't believe that the song watches. That's
why I can't believe the song is about an amalgamation. Well,
she said, dude, you are my favorite mistake.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, so it's one of them.
Speaker 4: He's just saying that there was a couple that she
had and maybe she was protecting Eric. I don't know,
she could be maybe possibly, you know, she was afraid.
Speaker 2: We found out.
Speaker 3: By by the way, who you're so vain was about? Well,
they even she said it was like Carlor Simon.
Speaker 2: Carly Simon said it was Warm Batty. Uh, many people.
Speaker 4: He said that it was Mick Jagger, but she said
it was two people. One may have been Warm, but
it was somebody else. So I don't know it was
it was Taylor, No, it was not what's his name?
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh Chamer, the People you Love, James Taylor, James Taylor, Jay.
Speaker 4: It was either James Taylor. I think it was Warm
Warm Batty or Mick Jagger. Well, Mick Jagger sang backup
on the song.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: So if you listen really close, and this is what
I miss about albums, is you you used to be
able to read the liner notes and go holy shit.
John Mayer played on this song but you know so
and was backed up saying, singing on this, look at
this and it's kind of whom sag a cuts like
a knife? Yeah, yeah, yeah what he did, yeah, which
I don't think many people knew. And uh, I think
that was around that came in around the time of
the uh Billy Bob.
Speaker 2: Had his penis chopped off.
Speaker 4: He came John Bobbit, John Bobbitt, that's right, John Bobbitt,
and instead of cuts like a Knife, the.
Speaker 2: Parody song why Why Good? What is it go ahead,
tell me, tell me what it is that cuts like
a wife, cuts like a wife. And then it was
like it was terrible.
Speaker 4: It was I think Bob Wolf did it and I
was in there and I had a scream in the background,
like a knife went to.
Speaker 3: I would try to do parody songs. We did one
for Cocoba, for Libo Joe.
Speaker 2: That was awesome. We did another one for that was awesome.
Eric Coltz. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Little Douche.
Speaker 2: Cup Little Douche Group. We even did one here. We
did yeah, what do we do remember? No, we did
do one.
Speaker 4: It was uh, oh, I'll remember it in a second.
It was I'll pull it up here because I have
it saved.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like, was it.
Speaker 3: I did e Connors and Faris commercial pretend commercial featuring
an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I know that, but that was apparently this
was a song that we did.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 2: We had changed the wordst to something and then we
we wanted to get back.
Speaker 4: I'll figure it out. I don't remember now. Hmmm, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 4: Do Yeah, this is terrible, but I got it. I
fucking got it. Look at me, I fucking got it.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, Ai, Yeah, but you remember the song, yeah,
the thighs, Yeah, hungry.
Speaker 2: Thighs, hungry. I was heard.
Speaker 3: I heard Eric Carmen today. It's so weird and don't
see it. Let's try to talk off a post. Does
it kind if you laugh all the way to the post?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh men?
Speaker 11: Nice guys, your shadows burn my yes, every just spoke.
Speaker 5: Fleeting maybe this morning I thought it. But there are
two versions. Yeah, it wan.
Speaker 3: Hung that was like, this was this, This was the
Jennifer Lopez version, She.
Speaker 11: Will take a thunder Star, wild, wild and wet.
Speaker 2: Why why stopping.
Speaker 5: Crack the sky l one two three four daddy, I think?
Speaker 2: And the covers. That's right.
Speaker 3: That's rather like we used to subscribe to a system,
to a service that did parody socks. And remember when
Bristol Palin got pregnant. There was a song out by
I forgot the guy's name, but it's it's too late
to close your thighs.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, I vaguely.
Speaker 3: Remember Timberland and somebody Timberland and One Republic doing a
song like too late but it's too late to close
your thighs?
Speaker 4: All right, Danny, you know you could you could use
Ai to write a song for your loved one. You could, right,
I don't know that that's very thoughtful because you didn't.
Speaker 2: You didn't do a lot. Yeah, you didn't do a lot.
But it's a thought that counts.
Speaker 3: I'm told women that's all they care about it.
Speaker 2: Well, here's what they thought a last minute bouquet. Is
I remember the date? Yes, I remember the date. I
don't know.
Speaker 4: Now if you're in a quasi relationship, a sort of relationship,
you're not really sure what situationship you're in.
Speaker 3: I'm here's the situationship Booka's.
Speaker 4: Fine, you know a thoughtful detail. One you kind of
plan and you do something, and that's I pay attention
to you. That's the panty dropper. That's the bandy dropper.
That's the whole game right there, because if you actually
pay attention to listen, there are hints that are dropped
sometimes in conversation. They're not even hints. I shouldn't call
them that because it's not. It's just conversation. You pick
up on something you know, like, oh my god, you
won't believe this, my favorite whatever broke today, but make
a mental note, put it in your Amazon car bingo, Bingo.
Speaker 3: Have delivered. Yes, one year I had my wife. I
sent my wife flowers the day before Valentide's Day at work,
and I said, everyone's getting flowers tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Only one lady's getting it today.
Speaker 3: She loved it. And my wife hates valatized days. Say
she doesn't hate it, she's apathetic toward it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a little lame. But send them the
flowers a day before. Yeah, you're getting them a day before, baby,
because they were not checked up in praying. Don kidding,
they probably were the same they were. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would say this too, and not for Valentine's Day,
but anything that requires the celebration.
Speaker 2: Don't ask what do you want to do. I don't
think that that's a good idea.
Speaker 3: No, you should have already in your mind for the
last year, taking a mental inventory.
Speaker 2: All right, let me rephrase that, because sometimes I guys go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but every idea I do out, Yeah, that happens too.
Speaker 4: Okay, but let's say it's a milestone, say it's a
fortieth fiftieth.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't ask what do you want to do? You
should know because this shouldn't be collaborative. Yeah, this should
be I pay attention. We're going to stay Brazil. I
get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I gotta think if women are to me,
they're emotionally intelligent, more emotionally intelligent than men on the standard.
I'm not going to say everybody, but I mean more
often than not, they're more emotionally intelligent. And I think
a lot of times they see past things. So when
it's something like what do you want to do? It
doesn't it comes off off as collaborative, and I think
it kind of feels like I don't think about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you're looking to keep the spark alive, yeah,
think ahead, you got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to play a preemptive striker.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is this, if she's planning dinner and
she's and you have kids, and she's getting the babysitter
and she's doing this, that that that's it's a concierge service, dude, right,
I mean, you know she's project management.
Speaker 2: I don't that's not That's not the way you should be,
especially if it's a celebration for her whatever that is,
or whatever you want to do. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't get a driver's license picture like you know,
blown up either, that's a bad idea too. I saw
that an episode of Home Improvement Knocking.
Speaker 4: Now, I will say I am a huge, huge, huge
fan only because only only because it entertains me.
Speaker 2: Over compensation, big, big, big fan of overcompt We've seen
a few people, Oh, big, big, big fan.
Speaker 4: It's I'm telling you, like, if you start doing things
where you're paying for everything and you're just overspending, that's
my favorite. Because I don't think women remember the money.
I really don't.
Speaker 2: I think in the end, I mean it's nice, right.
Speaker 3: Although they remember the moments.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, and I'm gonna kind of they'll
take an emotional bank. I'm gonna I'm gonna poke it
somebody here.
Speaker 4: I think the two fit chicks who do a podcast here,
all right, I think one of them would be well,
maybe both, but definitely one.
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 4: It would be very I would remember the money, spend,
the lavish spending, the leaven.
Speaker 2: And you know what, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: I think that if you took a woman to an
expensive restaurant that she hasn't been to, she remembers that, yeah,
remember that you were Yeah, But.
Speaker 3: Say if it's out of I don't want to say
out of character, but if it's out of routine, yeah, yeah,
she would remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah I was.
Speaker 4: Let me dig back into my at the chimes, my
knowledge of the gimes, Lucy, there you go, reaching back
into my knowledge of of women. I think that most
women don't want expensive as much as they want intentional.
And I think that spending money on a nice restaurant,
while impressive, to really seal the night, eye contact, listening right,
paying attention. Even this story you've heard for the fucking
ninetieth time about Beth and how she once farted on
her way into a meeting and everybody laughed.
Speaker 3: No, I don't mean I was gonna say, is there
something I told you about that I'm not aware of?
Speaker 7: But I do.
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of times, especially let me
say that, I think there are women who get to
a certain age and they have kids, and they do
things and they feel like they're not seen.
Speaker 2: I really do. I think that that's a real thing.
I think it's a real feeling they have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how. That's how like when the kids all
of a sudden grow up and go off the college,
you got, the parents look at each other and go Okay,
what do we have left?
Speaker 4: Yeah, kids are going Sex becomes fuck you when you
pass each other in the hallway.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not a good thing. Not a good thing.
But I do I think you want to feel desired.
Oh yeah, I want to go hot. You want to
feel hot, feel sexy.
Speaker 4: You do one hundred and nothing like undivided attention. If
you make her feel like the only woman in that restaurant,
any dropper, you might get blown in the car. Buddy,
I'm just saying they could happen.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, taking notes. See, my wife is afraid.
My wife's not a big Valentine's Day fan. No, but
I know I gotta do so so I get that
in our anniversary is like the week after. Okay, so
so back to back, you're your anniversary.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: A lot of women'll say Valentine's say, I don't want
to made up holiday Hallmark to remind you.
Speaker 2: That you love me. It's kind of a shitty thing.
Speaker 3: However, well, well it's out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but here here's what I thought about, because I
think about like my sons all the time, and I
go what men are taught and not not sat down
and go let me teach you something, but just by
watching example, your taught performance, your taught performance. And women
are looking for and probably taught more about connection because
they're about a connection with somebody. I just have a
connection with that guy. Why are you dating him? He's
got a fucking beer belly, his pants ride low. I
don't know, I have a connection. Usually they also have
a big wallet.
Speaker 3: I well, yeah, like I see these being a big
Sopranos fan, the algorithm's got to me, right. So you
see these pictures on Twitter or Instagram of a cartoon
version of Tony Soprano in like a bath in a
bathrobe and a cut short shirt and boxers with the
newspaper under his arm, and then you see the women
that love him, and they're all gorgeous. Yes, I mean
it's like there is an aura.
Speaker 2: With certain men.
Speaker 3: Sure, there is attractive. The looks are secondary. It's all
about it's about the guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a leader, he's.
Speaker 3: A James his orange. I can see his Charlie Charlie Murphy,
his orange.
Speaker 2: I can see.
Speaker 4: But it's like it's yeah, and it is. There's something
about an energy. There's a way they carry themselves. There's
in confidence to it that all that is is part
of it, and you really can't fake that ship.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I mean you can, you can try.
I love all these things. I get fed the weirdest things,
like I get this thing now on how to text women.
If you're texting good morning, your lame is basically what
you're going. I'm going, okay, I score away.
Speaker 2: Pass it, But I go, why why is that a
my algorithm? What the fuck did I do?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's usually like I started the doctor what's his name?
I get all the blood tests? Now, oh doctor, heyman hymen? Yeah,
and now I get all of it. Okay, that I get.
We talked about it. I looked it up. Okay, you
connected me. Where's this texting ship from? I don't text anybody.
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, I know.
Speaker 3: I know a guy who was gay was getting ads
for dating women in their sixties. He goes, clearly algorithms, well,
they turned into men, some of them.
Speaker 2: Have you seen him. I'm just saying, I mean, you're
shooting in the other hole anyway, Jeez.
Speaker 3: Ended up becoming a trans fad.
Speaker 2: I just say, right, that's true. Yeah, that is I
think that men with like, what do men do? What
did your dad do? What did your dad do for
your mom? Card flowers?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no? In life? What did he do? Oh?
He provided? Well, he solved their problems.
Speaker 3: Yes, car broke down, Dad took care of him, got it?
Speaker 2: That is how men? And what did you learn? Take
care of your wife? Men solve shit? Yes? Right? Men?
Speaker 3: Men, Men problem solve.
Speaker 2: Men are problems. We'll probabm. We'll see.
Speaker 3: I've had to like to coach myself not to try
to solve all her problems, like when she comes home
and she's venting. Just listen, Yeah you don't, well you
know what you should tell your cowork right, because.
Speaker 2: That's what we do.
Speaker 3: What we do, we portray different, we do how we're raised.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, just listen.
Speaker 4: Do you know how hard that was for me to
I'm learning my first semester? Oh yeah, first semester of
grad school. Okay, yeah, because in there you're not supposed
to say anything, and I'm like going to.
Speaker 2: Get to sit in the stew. I am, Yeah, you
gotta sit in the stew. Yeah did I say that?
Or do you know that you said that? Oh? I
caught it yes, yeah, I listened to you. Okay, you
gotta sit with a minute.
Speaker 3: That's in the stew well, that was slow, let us
slow cook. And fifty minutes I couldn't. I would start solving.
I would be like, why don't you just sell that
bitch to you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Or whatever it was?
Speaker 3: And is this a way to keep the racket going
week to week?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, I understand what you're saying. What the truth
is is that if I solve your problem, the problem
isn't solved. But if you solve your problem, Oh, it's
like leading the horse, you got it, It's like meeting
the person where they are and helping them find their
own ladder on the way out. Because and again, and
I think I always thought I love this saying, and
I was never sure if I fully understood it. Words
don't teach, right, words don't teach, and experience teaches, So
I can. I can tell you the formula and then
you apply it and it's like it doesn't work, or
it does work, or you don't care. But when you
struggle through it and figure it out, it means more
to you.
Speaker 3: Right, like, like let's take that Nordic dude, Yes, Okay.
Now we talk about this in church with salvation, right, Okay,
Well what do I say? Well, No, it's got to
come from your heart. If like, if like this guy
cheated on his on his girl, Okay, and well, Billy,
what do I do?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, if you say, well, say this, Okay, I'll just
repeat that. It's not meaningful like say you're sorry, I'm
sorry for I've sorry for what I do. Cheating, I'm
sorry for cheating. It's not from the heart, right, you
gotta like help, This gotta come from you. It's got
to come from your mind, your body, your heart, your spirit.
Speaker 2: Men solve problems. Women feel, they feel shit, they feel
twenty eight days everything, they feel everything and and so
Valentine's Day, or even a brain. It's not about it's
not about solving anything, right like make It's about, in
some way kind of signaling you pay attention.
Speaker 3: Yes, you want to telegraph it. Plant those little seeds.
Speaker 2: Fellas you're if you're uncomfortable, plant signaling infection, you're in trouble.
Plant the seed of love. Do it now. And here's
the thing. Attention is currency. Yes, attention is current.
Speaker 3: Certainly is now on the flip side, talk about women
with feelings and feeling things out and thinking them with their.
Speaker 2: Feelings probably don't feel like getting me nothing.
Speaker 3: For Validyde's Day.
Speaker 2: What do you want? Dan?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 3: My point is like America, like they gear the advertising
towards the men. It's like the men's responsibilit for the yes, yes,
and then they create a second holiday. That's why, Okay,
you're going to create a second holiday at October Cold
Sweetest Day. I don't know if you've heard of this.
This is a Buffalo holiday or whatnot.
Speaker 2: It's a Polish thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's also well that's Dingus Day, that's after Easter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the point is that these the florists have come
up with these holidays to get men to open their wallets,
to spend more money, to feel kill something if you
give them more stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, and you know what, but they never tell the way.
Get it from a flowers, Get them from a local flowers,
don't do them hundred flowers sucks. And if you think
a fucking gas station flowers, you're already you're already in trouble.
Because if she says it's fine, guess what, it's not fine.
Who's got great flowers. Fine is the worst word. She
could say.
Speaker 3: You know who's got great flowers? What Trader Joe's tremendous flowers,
great flowers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trader Joe's.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, good tip, goods, good tip, fellas.
Speaker 4: Here's something else and she'll notice this. You spent five
days total of nine hours, five days and nine hours
total putting together your fucking fantasy football team, and you're
gonna freestyle Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: Can't do it? Fuck you in trouble. I can't do it,
So I say fuck you. You know, I mean, here's
the thing.
Speaker 4: Danny can recite you playoff stats from nineteen ninety two.
Does he know what his wife left for dessert?
Speaker 3: I know that I'm not spoking with tobacco. So my
wife just got we just on frozies Christmas cookies. I
wanted to go to Crumble, like.
Speaker 2: You know, we've been a year. I want to get some.
Speaker 3: She goes, you know, we got cookies at home, which
is an old phrase from your parents.
Speaker 2: Like we got food at home? Yes, okay, I do
that a lot. Now, Oh yeah, we can on freeze
the cookies.
Speaker 3: So we bring the Christmas cookies up that we froze. Okay, well,
now apparently I've eaten every like brand. I've eaten all
of them. But now I have to leave one cookie
of each kind left for her for bath.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's the thing. There's like fucking roommates or siblings
or something. That's what he did. Your mom would say,
don't eat them all, Danielle, leave one for your sister.
Speaker 3: One day, I ate all the bacle var that she had,
and I didn't realize they're cut diagonal. I think I
told you this story.
Speaker 2: I thought, Oh that was my half.
Speaker 3: No, that was the only piece left.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 4: So much sugar. Oh, I know, that is so much sugar.
It's I mean, it's good, but it's so much sugar.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 3: But I have to be But I've learned to be
mindful of my wife, not to eat all the cookies
or even eat all of the same kinds of cookies.
Leave at least one for my wife each of each delicacy.
I guess.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like guys, never gain thing for Valentine's Day,
don't even try.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they do.
Speaker 3: You can get them a set of golf balls for
Valentine's they'll show them you love them.
Speaker 2: Get them some bullets. Yeah, I think you can get them,
Like where where's the pack? Like, here's go.
Speaker 4: My buddy Mike, due to got blackballed from an ad agency,
was working out because he ad Age magazine used to
have contests in the back of the hand take two
products that wouldn't go together. And he made this smoke
and poke Marlboro's cigarettes in the condom, and I think
he came in third or something in the thing.
Speaker 2: So he gets mentioned in his big dumb faces in there.
He's now super successful.
Speaker 4: He went to work for Deutsch after that and now
started his own company, which is also an investment firm,
and it's really doing well. But he did the smoke
and poke, and I go, now, why couldn't you do like,
you know, for Valentine's Day? It's like a bottle of wine,
a couple of viagra, or hymns or the whatever other
shit they're selling online. They've hymns and hurts, but I
think there's also isn't there like something that's supposed to
take fifteen minutes for the hardest erection of your life.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I got Those are the ads I
see when I'm sitting on the crapper and then in
a pair of boxers with hearts on him.
Speaker 4: How fucking got the nuts for that certain age of
a certain age I got? I understand that.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm thinking, Like these days, drawers and dogs,
these days, whether it be Valentine's Day, and I know
people will go, I hate okay, but her birthday and
anniversary a special day that means a lot to her, Like,
I don't know whatever that is.
Speaker 4: It's not about not disappointing her. That's not That shouldn't
be what it's about. It should be more about showing
her she matters without her.
Speaker 2: Having to ask. Because let me tell you something, if
she has to ask, she's already decided yes, she doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: And that's when things get in trouble, and that's when
things fall apart.
Speaker 2: No, and that's not about February fourteenth. No, that's about
every each buddy, mother fucking day. Every day is Valentine.
Speaker 3: Because even that exhausted me every day in my life,
Resurrection Sunday.
Speaker 2: And Valentine's Day. That's funny, Great Congress is his birthday
every day?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: It's also Greg's birthday. It's not the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Well, no, but but you said Juice, and Juice said
to us, it's like his holiday. Oh gosh, and it's amazing.
Does he work the next day?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Was he drunk? No?
Speaker 3: You should see the spread he had. Man, I'm disciplin.
Told my wife to put the desserts in her purse.
We had a blast.
Speaker 2: Hey, honey, steal a couple of those. I'll leave you half.
Speaker 3: He's got like sixteen TVs of that house.
Speaker 2: Thinking about you, honey, I'm thinking about you. I was
thinking about you. He left you half.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, we got the super Bowl, the Big
Street downstairs, and then he's got like college basketball and
the other TVs.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's like a yeah, it's a sports bar. Yeah,
that's awesome. And now I wish I had taken Jackson
over there.
Speaker 2: Jackson.
Speaker 4: Jackson came to my house and then I wound up
just staying home and I made uh many steaks and
some other stuff.
Speaker 2: And then he looked at me and goes, I needed
a day off. We did two nice sho okay, all
right for Dann Barrillo. For you Valentine's Day suckers, do
it right or don't do it at all. I'm Bill
Moran and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 8: Don't even know when we was up to.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't have let us in, and that would let
it and them was like the rich, no sin Elvis pence.
Speaker 2: They bowl a bar to the Bastland Games.