Speaker 1: You created everything, what put a powerful being you are?
Speaker 1: You did these things, but now you're in a human body,
Speaker 1: you forget the power you have.
Speaker 2: What you do is what the whole universe is doing
Speaker 2: at the place you call here, and now you are
Speaker 2: something the whole universe is doing in the same way
Speaker 2: that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing,
Speaker 2: doing doing what.
Speaker 1: Welcome to meta mysteries where you don't know what you
Speaker 1: don't know. My name's Jonathan, I'm Sean, And in case
Speaker 1: you didn't notice, we have made a name change. We
Speaker 1: are now metamistics. This is something that I think it was, Uh,
Speaker 1: it was inevitable just with our own own kind of
Speaker 1: evolution of understanding as we've done, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of episodes over the past two plus years and just
Speaker 1: kind of seeing ourselves and the rest of the one
Speaker 1: out there for who we truly are. And I do
Speaker 1: believe that it was actually kind of like our destiny
Speaker 1: to get to this point. And I'm not even just
Speaker 1: saying that to sauce it up, like I legit believe
Speaker 1: that we are doing what like was predestined almost kind
Speaker 1: of like you know.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, and I think we have gotten our confirmation
Speaker 3: on that. You know, we were having that conversation, we
Speaker 3: were going over some of this stuff, and just the
Speaker 3: way that that all played out, dude, it was almost
Speaker 3: like you can't even question that, you know, it was
Speaker 3: such a cool experience.
Speaker 1: We don't believe in coincidences. So the other night, Sean
Speaker 1: and I we were talking on the phone, and it was.
Speaker 3: The episode that will never air really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because we were talking for a good hour
Speaker 1: and a half or so at least, and just kind
Speaker 1: of shooting the shit, you know, not necessarily talking about
Speaker 1: the podcast or anything, just like catching up with each
Speaker 1: other more on a personal level and thinking about, you know,
Speaker 1: where what we want to do kind of in the future.
Speaker 1: And and dude, we got this idea of changing the
Speaker 1: name of the podcast to instead of it being The
Speaker 1: Mysteries and just calling it The Metamistics, right, And I
Speaker 1: brought it up to Sean, and Sean was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that, and and I was.
Speaker 3: Actuate actually before you even dropped it on me, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I don't know, man, I'm getting a
Speaker 3: little scared because like you're always willing to make those
Speaker 3: leaps and jump off that cliff, you know, and really
Speaker 3: make a change for the better. And I'm like, you're
Speaker 3: scaring me, man, And then you you hit me with that,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh no, I love that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and so it you know, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a sketchy move to make. I'm not gonna lie, you know,
Speaker 1: changing the name of your show that you've kind of
Speaker 1: been working to build up for the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: But I think for us, we're I'm not gonna We're
Speaker 1: nowhere near understanding all of it, not even close. And
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, we'll probably live for the
Speaker 1: next one hundred years because I'm I'm gonna live until
Speaker 1: like one thirty five. I don't know about you, but.
Speaker 3: Oh, I see that. I see that. Yeah, I've got
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm hoping I got another fifty, but
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think it's so good.
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about my honest right. Yeah. But yeah,
Speaker 1: And so we kind of were thinking, like, dude, I
Speaker 1: feel like that this is more of a mystical show.
Speaker 1: It's not so much like you don't know what you
Speaker 1: don't know as much anymore, because we feel like we
Speaker 1: have a pretty good understanding about what's really going on
Speaker 1: and I don't know, metamistics just felt right, you.
Speaker 3: Know, oh absolutely. And you know, it's interesting because when
Speaker 3: we first started, I was in a totally different place
Speaker 3: as far as what I thought I understood. And sure
Speaker 3: there's things that I've gone back on as far as like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I still believe that, But I feel like sometimes you
Speaker 3: have to go through these things and go through the
Speaker 3: trenches and really look at everything in order to say, Okay, now,
Speaker 3: at least I have a better understanding of where I am.
Speaker 3: And dude, it's taking us two years.
Speaker 1: Oh dude. I mean we've done I think close to
Speaker 1: two hundred episodes or maybe a little bit more than
Speaker 1: two hundred episodes, and we've talked about so many different
Speaker 1: realms of thought. We've gotten into, you know, a bunch
Speaker 1: of different philosophy and witchcraft and magic, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy how much information has gone through the filter
Speaker 1: of our own minds nonetheless all the one out there.
Speaker 1: And so I feel like we have a and that's
Speaker 1: something that we were always really trying to do. We
Speaker 1: were always trying to get to the bare bones what's
Speaker 1: actually happening, you know, And and I think that and
Speaker 1: we always give it a shout out, but The Magickian
Speaker 1: by Philip Cooper really set the tone on that. That
Speaker 1: was something to where, all right, you know, we're going
Speaker 1: to take away the glitz and the glam of magic
Speaker 1: and just see it for what it is, what is
Speaker 1: actually going on at the bare minimum and breaking it
Speaker 1: all the way down to its absolute bare bones. And
Speaker 1: it's just like been a full on downhill effect from
Speaker 1: there in a good way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's a lot of aspects of that, you know,
Speaker 3: I think we went into it that night. As far
Speaker 3: as you know, whenever you are trying to create a
Speaker 3: reality for yourself, let's say you're trying to manifest something,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, sure, there could be a multitude
Speaker 3: of things that are happening at the same time. But also,
Speaker 3: you know, we don't really know the exact truth of
Speaker 3: how it's actually happening in that regard, as far as
Speaker 3: you know, are you jumping to another timeline where in
Speaker 3: fact that thing does happen? You know, because I think
Speaker 3: it's harder to think that you're changing everything around you
Speaker 3: in the world that you were already in. And so
Speaker 3: we were trying to we were kind of talking about
Speaker 3: that and you know, we don't fully know, dude, but
Speaker 3: I feel like we're.
Speaker 1: A bit closer was understanding why it's happening. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's so much fun really. You know, whenever you
Speaker 1: hear something and you hear it to be like truth,
Speaker 1: you don't need to go and check a history book
Speaker 1: to see if so and so believe this very statement.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, most of the quotes that
Speaker 1: we hear are, at least initially were of people that
Speaker 1: we never heard of, Like you know, you talk about
Speaker 1: Roomy had no idea who the alley was, right, and
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden we mentioned him almost every
Speaker 1: single episode. But at that time, there was a message
Speaker 1: that resonated, and that's really the core behind every single thing.
Speaker 1: Who cares? Who said it? Who cares when it was said?
Speaker 1: Who cares? What? Even the context of the conversation was
Speaker 1: what you just heard? Did it resonate with you? And
Speaker 1: why why does information resonate in the first place? What's
Speaker 1: the science or whatever behind that? You know, like, why
Speaker 1: is it that that certain things just they feel right
Speaker 1: going through?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I've actually thought about this, and you know,
Speaker 3: there was something that we have said numerous times as
Speaker 3: far as you know, when it comes to children, how
Speaker 3: they are closer to that other side. And I feel
Speaker 3: like I kind of had this thing, just like an epiphany,
Speaker 3: and it's so simple, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 3: it's like they haven't had the experiences and the dogmas
Speaker 3: and the people telling them that they're small or they
Speaker 3: shouldn't do this or don't do that, and so in
Speaker 3: a sense, they are closer to where we are trying
Speaker 3: to get back to. If that makes sense, you know,
Speaker 3: we're trying to remove all of the things that we
Speaker 3: are not and children just don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: Removing the filter, dude, that's.
Speaker 3: It, because they are already the truth. They are already
Speaker 3: that If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's no kind of filter for it to
Speaker 1: go through. They're taking it as it is, and that's sense.
Speaker 1: And it's like, man, it's you know, there's really something
Speaker 1: we could learn from kids in that sense, which and
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that almost every single spiritual book
Speaker 1: out there will tell you to develop the mind or
Speaker 1: at least bring it down to the mind of a child.
Speaker 1: And why would they say that. Why does almost every
Speaker 1: single book say that? You know, it just makes you
Speaker 1: think and that's essentially we are. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: we're somewhat kind of like modern day philosophers, but I
Speaker 1: think that just the fact that we we kind of
Speaker 1: envelop every single philosophy in every single form of spirituality
Speaker 1: and get a little eclectic at you know, I don't
Speaker 1: even say at times pretty much every episode, that's really
Speaker 1: where the magic lies. And so instead of philosopher, we're
Speaker 1: going with the mystics.
Speaker 3: Baby. That's it, dude, That is the eclectic. The mystic
Speaker 3: is the one that sees the the at least, you know,
Speaker 3: the truth that resonates the most. And and you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know when it comes to the mystic, it
Speaker 3: does it. It is all encompassing. Yeah, it doesn't limit what.
Speaker 1: We are not. I'm happy you said that, because you know,
Speaker 1: there there can be a mystic in any any part
Speaker 1: of the world. You know, I mean there are Christian mystics,
Speaker 1: there's Jewish mystics, there's you know, uh Islamic mystics, there's
Speaker 1: Buddhist mystics, you know, Hindu mystics, all these things, everybody's
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a it's a form of spirituality
Speaker 1: that is looking at the world through a different lens,
Speaker 1: and I just love it because who were we to
Speaker 1: believe that our original lens that we looked out at
Speaker 1: the world was correct?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like, And you know what's
Speaker 3: funny about that is that at the time, it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the paradox that that's the paradox that Optimistic
Speaker 1: always talks about.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this all kind of really started the other night.
Speaker 1: I go to sleep and I I shared the message
Speaker 1: with Sean. I just want to share a little bit
Speaker 1: of it right now as to what we're going to
Speaker 1: be talking about in this episode. That was then followed
Speaker 1: by a video of Wayne Dyer speaking great philosopher.
Speaker 3: That out to Nick for bringing that to our attention.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Electro Nick, Dude, it was like an
Speaker 1: hour and ten minutes long of just statement after statement
Speaker 1: after statement, affirmation after affirmation, and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: there's no way I cannot understand this now, right, you
Speaker 1: know exactly, And so definitely shout out to Electro Nick
Speaker 1: for that one. But it did start with I want
Speaker 1: to say four or five nights ago. I was laying
Speaker 1: in bed and it was, you know, pretty late. We
Speaker 1: tend to shoot pretty late. And I was laying in
Speaker 1: bed and I was really, really really tired, like I
Speaker 1: was getting ready to knock out, and then I just
Speaker 1: got this message in my mind. Could have been just
Speaker 1: a deep thought or some kind of internal contemplation that
Speaker 1: was happening in that moment, but I felt that it
Speaker 1: was so vital that I write this down or that I,
Speaker 1: you know, voice memo it, that I just had to
Speaker 1: roll over and get that phone and record it. So
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna play that. We're not gonna play it.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read it because whenever I was playing it,
Speaker 1: like I'm in deep, deep, deep meditative thought. I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready to fall asleep at this point. So it's like
Speaker 1: the words are coming a mile a minute. It's just
Speaker 1: so damn slow. You know, you're in between worlds.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did it, though.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you had that forethought to at least you know,
Speaker 3: have it transcribed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and the and that's the that's really the
Speaker 1: magic behind it. We always talk about like you know,
Speaker 1: past life aggressions and hypnosis and just you know, all
Speaker 1: the different the four or five some would say five
Speaker 1: stages of consciousness. And you know, especially right before bed,
Speaker 1: you're in that data state of mind. You're in the
Speaker 1: one of the deepest hypnosis is that you can be
Speaker 1: in before you go to sleep, so you're more likely
Speaker 1: to be able to channel or most likely to be
Speaker 1: able to tap into your higher self or whatever you
Speaker 1: call that. And I was just there, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read it out. I prefer the genius, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it is. I think that's really where we're going here.
Speaker 1: Call it the genius, call it the demon whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, same thing.
Speaker 1: So this is what I said. And at the time,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh my god, did I just like spitbar
Speaker 1: and save the world with this right now or what?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: But I said, we, dude, I almost like it. Super
Speaker 1: excited even reading it. I said, we are the spirit
Speaker 1: guides to our humans. When our human has to go
Speaker 1: through something bad, we're the ones that are there for them.
Speaker 1: It's our duty as the spirit guide to pick up
Speaker 1: the human. It's our duty to have empathy for them,
Speaker 1: but also be that shining light. Whenever our human dies.
Speaker 1: We would be a little up said about it because
Speaker 1: he was our human and we were his guide. And
Speaker 1: while the human dies we go on. We are unseen.
Speaker 1: We are unseen in this world. We are only realized
Speaker 1: as the human, with the human as the lower form
Speaker 1: of us. So it almost got a little neo plate
Speaker 1: neo platonic right there, right, almost as if the one
Speaker 1: or the Source or whatever, that that big shining light,
Speaker 1: it's not out there, it's internal and that baby is
Speaker 1: shining outward, right, Yes, And I said, we're not separate
Speaker 1: from the human. The humans not separate from us. We
Speaker 1: are interconnected for the time being. What we're This is
Speaker 1: hard to read because I'm sure I was stumbling over
Speaker 1: my words and it's written down a transcript in that way,
Speaker 1: what we're what we are. I'm not even gonna read
Speaker 1: the rest of it because it didn't really make sense
Speaker 1: towards the end right there. But but yeah, just basically,
Speaker 1: I had the crazy epiphany that we are the spirit
Speaker 1: guides to our human in that sense. And I don't
Speaker 1: maybe it's been talked about before. I've never heard it
Speaker 1: put that way, though.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that. Man, you know, like, and
Speaker 3: this is kind of obvious when you go into meditation.
Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about this before you go into
Speaker 3: meditation and all of a sudden, you are just the observer.
Speaker 3: You know. It's almost like this this switch happens where
Speaker 3: everything externally just goes away, you know. And of course
Speaker 3: you you kind of agree to that because you're doing
Speaker 3: a meditation, so it's almost like you are already agreeing
Speaker 3: to that kind of situation. But when you get there,
Speaker 3: it's very obvious that you are that observer. And I
Speaker 3: think that observer is the guy you're talking about. I
Speaker 3: think so actually, like I know so, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: we talk about Deryl Anka, you know, going and channeling
Speaker 3: and this and that, and you can say he's channeling
Speaker 3: in alien.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. He even admitted that he wasn't
Speaker 1: actually channeling an alien. Oh did he admit that?
Speaker 3: Okay, well then we know that he's not actually and
Speaker 3: so he's merely accessing his genius. And really, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's how he can go for hours because he's not
Speaker 3: holding on or he's not he's it's almost like he's
Speaker 3: not what's the word, like attached so much to whatever
Speaker 3: it is that comes out, because it's just kind of
Speaker 3: flowing out because this is what it is. That's so yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that that's the level of consciousness, the state
Speaker 3: of consciousness that you can access. And that's actually kind
Speaker 3: of weird when you think about that. A state of consciousness, right,
Speaker 3: And so when we are just awake, right, that's what
Speaker 3: is that is that delta? Or which one is it?
Speaker 1: When we're just aware, when we're like the most aware
Speaker 1: would be beta, trance is alpha.
Speaker 3: Okay, So when you're in beta, that is a state
Speaker 3: of consciousness. And so everything that happens within that state
Speaker 3: of consciousness we call reality, right, And so why is
Speaker 3: it different when we go into a different state of consciousness,
Speaker 3: you know, when we go into a theta, when we
Speaker 3: go into a you know, those deeper states of call it.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're having a dream, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: in that state of consciousness, that still is your reality
Speaker 3: at that point. You know, I just don't understand why
Speaker 3: we make that distinction from when we are awake and
Speaker 3: alert to you know, in the dream realm, and why
Speaker 3: we just completely separate those things and just call the
Speaker 3: dream world and all of that just something else.
Speaker 1: Right, You're just tripping, right, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's a reality within that state of consciousness.
Speaker 1: That's all it is, dude. That's the crazy thing, dude.
Speaker 1: I was actually listening to a debate earlier between sad
Speaker 1: Guru and the and Harvard's cognitive scientist professor. His name
Speaker 1: is Stephen Pinker, and I was listening to the debate
Speaker 1: between the two of them, trying to date debating on consciousness. Okay,
Speaker 1: and now, so you got a Harvard scientist saying, look,
Speaker 1: you know, the hard problem of consciousness is that you
Speaker 1: can't prove it or disprove it, right, And he's like,
Speaker 1: we have all these different things going on in our brain.
Speaker 1: We know exactly where consciousness is. We know that it's
Speaker 1: in the brain, and that it can't be anywhere else, right,
Speaker 1: And sad Guru was like, I get that science is
Speaker 1: doing really good work. I really do. But you guys
Speaker 1: thought you had it figured out about five hundred years ago,
Speaker 1: and every single year it changes and so it would
Speaker 1: be almost delusional. I'm putting kind of words in his mouth,
Speaker 1: but he goes basically, it would be almost delusional to
Speaker 1: think that you have it figured out now. And then
Speaker 1: he goes on to say that, like, what you don't
Speaker 1: understand what consciousness actually is is that whenever you get
Speaker 1: into a deep enough meditative state, you will find that
Speaker 1: there is some kind of divine intelligence that is there
Speaker 1: to meet you. And if you can't get into that
Speaker 1: meditative state, you're not gonna know it's there. And you know,
Speaker 1: and to just bring it all the way back, how
Speaker 1: about we pull up Carl Jung. Until you make the
Speaker 1: unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will
Speaker 1: call it fate. That is what he's referring to right there.
Speaker 1: He's talking about that there is some kind of subtle,
Speaker 1: extremely the most subtle like intelligence. Call it consciousness, call
Speaker 1: it God, call it the universe. Whatever. There is something
Speaker 1: so extremely subtle that is so very alive within you
Speaker 1: that if you don't, you know, buy into meditation, and
Speaker 1: you never get yourself into a meditative state, you're going
Speaker 1: to miss the force for the trees. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how can you meet up with whatever
Speaker 3: that is? If you're not still enough, if you're not
Speaker 3: quiet enough, if you're not listening, you know.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, So that was a great conversation. And
Speaker 1: I gotta say that scientist was a like he was dude.
Speaker 1: He was so belittling and demeaning to everything that sad
Speaker 1: Guru thought. I was like and sag Guru is just
Speaker 1: over there sitting like a thug, just like, look, nothing
Speaker 1: that you say can affect me.
Speaker 3: I am control my emotions.
Speaker 1: I do that. I'm already in a bliss state. Look
Speaker 1: at me. I'm high right now.
Speaker 3: I'm high. Look at me, Look at me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, shout out to Saguru for that one. But
Speaker 1: and that was from like two years ago or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: But hm, I mean you got to be to be fair,
Speaker 3: you know. For the scientists, all that he has is
Speaker 3: the tangible evidence.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to things that can't be seen,
Speaker 3: such as the subconscious, I mean we can agree there's
Speaker 3: a subconscious mind, right, I feel like that shouldn't be
Speaker 3: too far of a leap for the scientists to recognize. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just they look at it as almost like
Speaker 1: lower levels of the mind that your brain is operating
Speaker 1: in the background. That's it. Okay, So no, no real use.
Speaker 3: Then we just kind of didn't evolve to not need
Speaker 3: that anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't need that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: on you, that's on me. I'll take that one. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was actually a really good interview. I really like
Speaker 1: that one. So I want to start this episode by
Speaker 1: saying a riddle, a cosmic riddle, if you will, sir,
Speaker 1: all right, and I'm not going to give the answer
Speaker 1: until the end of the episode, if it's not already evident. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, okay. What walks with you yet leaves no shadow?
Speaker 1: What dines at your table yet eats no bread? What
Speaker 1: breathes your breath? Size your size, and keeps the count
Speaker 1: of every heartbeat. It watches your laughter and weeps with
Speaker 1: your grief. It trembles in passion and sinks in your sleep.
Speaker 1: It listens when no one else is knee. And here's
Speaker 1: the words you never speak out loud.
Speaker 3: All right, just ponder that. Let's not spoil it, all right,
Speaker 3: We'll wait till the end.
Speaker 1: But I think I got a good idea, yeah, buddy,
Speaker 1: all right. So nextly we're gonna get into a couple
Speaker 1: of This episode is actually going to be kind of
Speaker 1: some of the messages of Wayne Dyer, and not all
Speaker 1: of them are going to be from Wayne Dyer. Some
Speaker 1: of them are kind of interwoven, and we're kind of
Speaker 1: be We're going to be pulling from all the different
Speaker 1: synonyms to try and build a realm of thought. So
Speaker 1: that we can really try and hammer it home. Love
Speaker 1: it okay, But it was inspired at least this portion
Speaker 1: of the show was inspired by Wayne Dwyer or Dier rather.
Speaker 1: He actually died in twenty fifteen. He was a modern
Speaker 1: day philosopher and he was actually a very interesting individual.
Speaker 1: He wrote a couple of books. He I mean, he
Speaker 1: was born in nineteen forty, so it was a bit
Speaker 1: of an order gentleman. But he was hanging out with
Speaker 1: Depak Chopra, which we read a book on. He was
Speaker 1: He was inspired by this dude named Swami muk Tananda
Speaker 1: and the New Thought, and his early work focused on
Speaker 1: psychological themes such as motivation, self actualization, and assertiveness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he collaborated with Deepak on alternative medicine as well. He
Speaker 1: was always on the Oprah Winfrey Show as well. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he wrote I think he wrote forty books. Is that
Speaker 1: what it was? Some crazy number of books. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: he wrote like some crazy number of books and I
Speaker 1: think twenty of them made New York Times bestsellers, which
Speaker 1: is quite an accomplishment. Oh yeah, so this was his
Speaker 1: life and so just want to give a little shout
Speaker 1: out to him. We got a couple of quotes by him.
Speaker 1: He goes, the state of your life is nothing more
Speaker 1: than a reflection of the state of your mind. M
Speaker 1: I mean, that's perfect.
Speaker 3: So, and this is it's interesting because I feel like
Speaker 3: within the last I don't know, six months, that has
Speaker 3: just been becoming so much more true and obvious, you know,
Speaker 3: at least to me. I can't speak for you, but
Speaker 3: I feel like you're you're vibeing on the same understanding.
Speaker 1: Yes. Another one is you will see it when you
Speaker 1: believe it, not the other way around. M M. Some
Speaker 1: people are like, I gotta believe it in order for
Speaker 1: me to see it. I'm like, hm, hmmm, I think
Speaker 1: that it's actually supposed to be the opposite way.
Speaker 3: Well, well, you said you will see it when oh,
Speaker 3: you will see it, then you will believe it. You
Speaker 3: said you will see it when you believe it. Okay,
Speaker 3: So when you believe it, you will see it. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: you gotta believe it first, right of course. Another one
Speaker 3: is when you argue for your limitations, all you get
Speaker 3: are your limitations.
Speaker 1: Yep. Perfect. Another one is yeah, dude, he's on one.
Speaker 1: Another one is I cannot always control what goes on outside,
Speaker 1: but I can always control what goes on inside. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he's on.
Speaker 3: It, dude.
Speaker 1: Another one goes, you're the creator of your thoughts, which
Speaker 1: means that in some metaphysical way, you're the creator of
Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, dude, banger and the final one that
Speaker 1: will read by him. You cannot be lonely if you
Speaker 1: like the person you are alone with.
Speaker 3: You speak on that quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I do, I do.
Speaker 3: You never feel alone very rarely. I mean, that's why
Speaker 3: it's so important, you know, to work on that shadow dude.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like that has been the just
Speaker 3: the theme for me lately, you know, trying to understand
Speaker 3: what that is and at least shed some light on it,
Speaker 3: or at least say okay, that's.
Speaker 1: There, you know, and then work with exactly. Yeah, shadow
Speaker 1: work is of utter importance. So before we get into
Speaker 1: some more quotes here, this is going to be a
Speaker 1: hammering home so that by the end of this episode
Speaker 1: you will leave without a shadow of a doubt knowing
Speaker 1: that you are far more important than you ever thought
Speaker 1: in your entire life. And it's not just like trying
Speaker 1: to amp you up. It's not just trying to make
Speaker 1: you feel good, not just trying to give you affirmation
Speaker 1: so that you can sleep better at night. No, we're
Speaker 1: talking about on a daily, not even a daily, a
Speaker 1: moment to moment basis. If you can remember, if you
Speaker 1: can remember these things, your life will significantly change, as
Speaker 1: if you are walking in wonderland. And that is not
Speaker 1: an understatement.
Speaker 3: Eventually the reflection needs to reflect that. Your inner world
Speaker 3: will definitely eventually start reflecting that and showing you, Oh,
Speaker 3: this is the life you want, this is what you're
Speaker 3: choosing to see, you know exactly.
Speaker 1: So I'll start with this beyond. Wayne Dyer was just
Speaker 1: a man with a message. So I don't want to
Speaker 1: and this is something that we've been trying to hammer hone.
Speaker 1: It does not matter who said it, what was the message,
Speaker 1: and did it resonate? That's all.
Speaker 3: It's it, that's it.
Speaker 1: So Wayne Dyer was just a man with a message,
Speaker 1: a man or a message that he found inside. He
Speaker 1: didn't read it in any books. He didn't receive it
Speaker 1: from a church, a mosque, a temple, a priest, a bishop,
Speaker 1: a pastor, a teacher, a Bible, a Torah, a Koran,
Speaker 1: a grimoire, any mythological tale or anything of the kind.
Speaker 1: He realized it inside, when the mind stops its chatter,
Speaker 1: when the past stops being present, when the future hasn't
Speaker 1: happened yet he realized it in the now, the subtle now,
Speaker 1: the eternal now that is right in front of your face,
Speaker 1: yet elude you like a kid when you tell them
Speaker 1: it's bedtime. Except it's not really the one who it's
Speaker 1: not really the one who's elusive. It's the lens of
Speaker 1: which you view the world. The worry, the anxiety, the bills,
Speaker 1: the kids, the spouse, the taxes, the football game, the
Speaker 1: person cutting you off in traffic, the in laws, the
Speaker 1: dirty house, the weight that you're self conscious about. It's
Speaker 1: the very veil that you put up, the shroud that
Speaker 1: you have to squint to maybe kind of sort of
Speaker 1: see through on mystical nights. But what's on that other
Speaker 1: side of that veil isn't hiding from you. You unknowingly
Speaker 1: or subconsciously put that veil there in the first place.
Speaker 1: And if you're the one that put it up there,
Speaker 1: don't you think it's about time we take it down.
Speaker 1: But here's the trick. Here's the trick. Nobody can do
Speaker 1: it for you. Your parents can help you, your teacher,
Speaker 1: your shaman, guru, priest, or friendly neighborhood. Mystic can't do
Speaker 1: it for you, only you. So today we're going to
Speaker 1: blueshift our mystical asses and get into who you are.
Speaker 1: Who you really are, not your job title, not what
Speaker 1: you like, not if you're a mother or a father,
Speaker 1: a husband or a wife, forever, single or in a relationship,
Speaker 1: the real you, the one and and once you hear this,
Speaker 1: you won't be able to go back. So are you ready, Sean.
Speaker 3: I've been ready. We're gonna get I've been searching, you know,
Speaker 3: and now we know that the search happens within you know,
Speaker 3: which is something that we've been saying for a minute, dude,
Speaker 3: but like it's true.
Speaker 1: So I want to get into some of the messages
Speaker 1: of the video that Shawn and I were talking about,
Speaker 1: and that these are not ours, it's just from the
Speaker 1: video that Shawn and I received from Electro Nick. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring some of them up so that
Speaker 1: so that you can kind of get a decent understanding
Speaker 1: as to why did we go from mystery to mystic?
Speaker 3: Okay, oh dude, I'm ready on real quick. If we can,
Speaker 3: maybe we can share that link just so everybody can
Speaker 3: can give that a listen, because I feel like it's
Speaker 3: so feel like it's that powerful.
Speaker 1: Yes it is, yeah, really good, and we're actually going
Speaker 1: to read a lot of it right now, all right.
Speaker 1: There is a sacred illusion that has governed the human
Speaker 1: mind for thousands of years, an illusion that God is
Speaker 1: somewhere else, out there above the clouds, hidden in holy books,
Speaker 1: locked behind rituals, are found only in the presence of
Speaker 1: saints and prophets. We were taught to look up, to
Speaker 1: kneel down, to chase something grand and far away. But
Speaker 1: what if the greatest secret of all, the secret whispered
Speaker 1: in every ancient text, the truth behind every miracle, is
Speaker 1: that God has never been outside of you, not for
Speaker 1: a single breath, not for a single heartbeat. God is
Speaker 1: not above you. God is not around you. God is
Speaker 1: not hiding at a temple or buried in the sand.
Speaker 1: God is not an entity floating in the heavens, counting
Speaker 1: your sins or judging your failures. God is not a being.
Speaker 1: God is a presence, a vibration, a frequency, an energy,
Speaker 1: and that energy lives inside of you. It pulses in
Speaker 1: your chest, not just as a heartbeat, but as a
Speaker 1: of cosmic intelligence. It rises with the sun through your thoughts.
Speaker 1: It flows through It flows with your breath as inspiration.
Speaker 1: It sings in your silence and whispers and your intuition.
Speaker 1: It is the light behind your eyes, the warmth behind
Speaker 1: your love, the stillness behind your peace. You don't have
Speaker 1: to go anywhere to find it. You only have to
Speaker 1: remember you have never been separate. You've only believed that
Speaker 1: you were. You were born into a world that confused
Speaker 1: form with truth. You were told that we were bodies.
Speaker 1: We were told we were names, histories, roles, genders, religions, nationalities.
Speaker 1: We were given identities to wear like masks in a theater.
Speaker 1: But behind every mask is the same light, the same essence,
Speaker 1: the same eternal current of being that has no label,
Speaker 1: no boundary, and no limitation. You're not a body with
Speaker 1: a soul. You're a soul having a brief, sacred passing
Speaker 1: experience in a body. And that soul, your soul, is
Speaker 1: not connected from God. It is God, not the entirety,
Speaker 1: but the expression, the drop that contains the whole ocean,
Speaker 1: the flame that reveals the nature of fire. You are
Speaker 1: the divine individualized And if that is true, and it is,
Speaker 1: then everything about your life begins to change, because no
Speaker 1: longer do you search for peace outside yourself. You no
Speaker 1: longer chase love from others like a beggar. You no
Speaker 1: longer strive to be good enough, holy enough, worthy enough.
Speaker 1: You realize that you already are, because how can that
Speaker 1: which is divine be unworthy? Your worth is not negotiable.
Speaker 1: It is not determined by your past. It is not
Speaker 1: reduced by your mistakes. You're You're not here to earn divinity.
Speaker 1: You're here to express it, to remember it, to embody it.
Speaker 1: When Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is within you,
Speaker 1: he wasn't being poetic. He was describing a metaphysical reality.
Speaker 1: That the infinite lives, the infinite lives in the finite,
Speaker 1: that the source is not out of reach, that the
Speaker 1: door to heaven swings open inward. The great mystics of
Speaker 1: every age have known this. Rumy said, I have searched
Speaker 1: for God and found only myself. I search for myself
Speaker 1: and found only God. Laozou said, Knowing others is wisdom,
Speaker 1: knowing yourself is enlightenment. The Upanishads tell us that you
Speaker 1: are that the Bagava Gida echoes that the self is
Speaker 1: the friend of the self. Even science, if you look closely,
Speaker 1: is beginning to whisper this truth, that consciousness is not
Speaker 1: an accident, but the ground of all being. And so
Speaker 1: the invitation of your life is not to find God,
Speaker 1: it is to remove everything that blocks your awareness of
Speaker 1: God within you. The ego is the veil, The past
Speaker 1: is the noise, the story is the distraction. But the
Speaker 1: truth has always been there, still silent, waiting, like the
Speaker 1: sun behind the clouds. It doesn't argue, it doesn't force,
Speaker 1: it doesn't punish. It simply awaits for your will willingness
Speaker 1: to remember who you really are. Who are you? You're
Speaker 1: not your name. You're not your job. You're not your resume.
Speaker 1: You're not your trauma. You're not your bank account. You're
Speaker 1: not your followers, your likes, your clothes, your failures, or
Speaker 1: your successes. You're not the story others wrote for you.
Speaker 1: You're not the story you wrote to survive. You are
Speaker 1: the awareness behind the story, the still presence watching the
Speaker 1: movie of your life unfold. You're not the storm. You
Speaker 1: are the sky that holds it. You're not the pain,
Speaker 1: You're the presence it passes through. You're not the fear.
Speaker 1: You are the faith it tries to hide. You're not
Speaker 1: the ego, You're not the wound, You're not the past.
Speaker 1: You are the divine energy expressing itself through this temporary
Speaker 1: costume of form. And once you remember this, not just
Speaker 1: intellectually but spiritually cellularly, everything shifts. You stop looking for validation,
Speaker 1: you stop playing roles, you stop performing for love. You
Speaker 1: stop carrying guilt like a cross on your back. You
Speaker 1: stop needing to be fixed because you realize you are
Speaker 1: never broken. Your healing does not begin when the world changes.
Speaker 1: It begins when your perception changes. When you stop seeing
Speaker 1: yourself as separate from the source, the source of life,
Speaker 1: and begin to live as if you are one with it.
Speaker 1: Because you are are. Because you are, There is no
Speaker 1: place you can go where God is not, not because
Speaker 1: God is everywhere, but because everywhere is in God, because
Speaker 1: existence itself is God in motion, love, in form, Spirit
Speaker 1: in rhythm, and your soul is a thread in that vast,
Speaker 1: endless tapestry of being. And this means that your life
Speaker 1: is not random, your pain is not pointless, your existence
Speaker 1: is not small. It means that the breath you are
Speaker 1: taking right now is holy. The moment you are in
Speaker 1: right now is sacred. The body you inhabit is a
Speaker 1: temple of energy, vibrating with ancient intelligence. You don't need
Speaker 1: to wait to die to return to God God. You
Speaker 1: only need to awaken to the fact that you never left.
Speaker 1: Heaven is not a location. Heaven is a level of awareness,
Speaker 1: and hell is not a punishment. Hell is the illusion
Speaker 1: of separation. Is It is living as if hell when
Speaker 1: we're talking about hell, is living as if you are alone,
Speaker 1: as if you are unloved, as if you are lost.
Speaker 1: But you are none of those things. You are found.
Speaker 1: You are helld You are guided. You are love behind comprehension,
Speaker 1: not because of what you do, but because of what
Speaker 1: you are. You are light wrapped in skin. You are
Speaker 1: Infinity in motion. You are God dreaming of being human
Speaker 1: for a little while. And when you awaken to this truth,
Speaker 1: forgiveness becomes easy because you recognize that the only you
Speaker 1: recognize that the one you're forgiving is also the divine
Speaker 1: in disguise. Compassion becomes natural because every person you meet
Speaker 1: is you in another form. Love because unconditional, because it's
Speaker 1: no longer a transaction, it's a transmission. And peace, well,
Speaker 1: peace becomes your default because nothing can disturb the stillness,
Speaker 1: the stillness of the soul that knows it is one
Speaker 1: with the all. So the next time you look in
Speaker 1: a mirror, don't just see a face, see the infinite
Speaker 1: gazing back at itself. The next time you feel alone,
Speaker 1: place your hand on your heart and feel the presence
Speaker 1: that is never left. The next time you pray, don't
Speaker 1: send your words into the sky. Listen for the answer
Speaker 1: rising from within. You're not trying to become divine. You
Speaker 1: are remembering that you already are, and this remembrance, this return,
Speaker 1: is the beginning of true freedom. You don't need to
Speaker 1: fight for what already belongs to you, you don't need
Speaker 1: to beg for what you already are, and you don't
Speaker 1: need to wait for someone else to awaken first. You
Speaker 1: are the awakening. You are the permission slip. You are
Speaker 1: the spark that lights the fire of remembrance in others
Speaker 1: just by being who you truly are. When you walk
Speaker 1: into a room fully grounded in your divine essence, you
Speaker 1: don't need to say a word. Your presence becomes the sermon,
Speaker 1: your peace becomes the teaching, Your authenticity becomes the miracle.
Speaker 1: Because when you remember that God is not outside of you.
Speaker 1: You stop chasing and start radiating. You stop searching and
Speaker 1: start serving. You stop trying to become, and you begin
Speaker 1: to be. You begin to live like the lotus, rooted
Speaker 1: in the mud but blooming in the light. You begin
Speaker 1: to live like the sun, not asking the world for
Speaker 1: permission to shine. You begin to live like the ocean, deep,
Speaker 1: powerful and undisturbed by the surface waves. This is not
Speaker 1: about religion. This is about revelation. This is not about dogma.
Speaker 1: This is about direct experience. You don't need a middleman
Speaker 1: to access the divine. You only need stillness, You only
Speaker 1: need silence, You only need the courage to sit with
Speaker 1: yourself until the noise fades and the truth rises. And
Speaker 1: what is that truth? That you're not alone, you never were,
Speaker 1: That everything you've been searching for, love, peace, worth, wholeness
Speaker 1: is already within you. That God is not a being
Speaker 1: in the sky. God is the being within all beings,
Speaker 1: The eternal i Am that speaks through your breath, moves
Speaker 1: through your hands, sees through your eyes. When you hold
Speaker 1: a newborn child and you feel your heart crack open
Speaker 1: with wonder, that's God. When you stand in nature and
Speaker 1: feel all wash over you like a baptism. That's God.
Speaker 1: When you forgive someone who never said sorry and feel
Speaker 1: the change breaking in your chest, that's God. When you
Speaker 1: sit in silence of your own soul and feel the
Speaker 1: warmth of presence, that is God. God is not something
Speaker 1: you understand. God is something you remember, and every moment
Speaker 1: of your life has been guiding you back to that remembrance,
Speaker 1: even the painful ones, especially the painful ones, because pain
Speaker 1: is often the chisel that cracks the shell of illusion.
Speaker 1: Suffering is the wake up call. Rock bottom is often
Speaker 1: the beginning of real clarity. We don't wake up because
Speaker 1: life is perfect. We wake up because we realize perfection
Speaker 1: was never the goal. Presence is, peace is, truth is,
Speaker 1: and truth is this. You are not separate. You were
Speaker 1: never cast out, You were never abandoned. You only forgot
Speaker 1: who you are, and now you're remembering. The spiritual path
Speaker 1: is not a journey to someplace new. It is the
Speaker 1: return to where you've always been, Beneath the noise, beneath
Speaker 1: the story, beneath the rules. It is the peeling back
Speaker 1: of the layers of identity until only presence remains, until
Speaker 1: only love remains, until only God remains. And when you
Speaker 1: touch that space, when you live from that space, you
Speaker 1: become a vessel, a living temple. Not a preacher of truth,
Speaker 1: but a presence of truth. And the world does not
Speaker 1: need more preachers, It needs more presence. It needs more
Speaker 1: people who have remembered who they are and live accordingly,
Speaker 1: with gentleness, with power, with purpose, and with peace. You
Speaker 1: are not put here to suffer through life hoping for
Speaker 1: a reward in the afterlife. You are not sent here
Speaker 1: to prove your worth or earn your salvation. You were
Speaker 1: born to express divinity and form, to create, to heal,
Speaker 1: to love, to serve, to awaken. You are the eyes
Speaker 1: through which the universe sees itself. You are the hands
Speaker 1: through which love touches the world. You are the voice
Speaker 1: through which truth sings. And the more you align with
Speaker 1: that awareness, the more your life begins to reflect it.
Speaker 1: Not because you manipulate circumstances, but because you change your
Speaker 1: vibrational point of origin. You stop operating from fear and
Speaker 1: start operating from faith. You stop reacting from ego and
Speaker 1: start responding from essence. You stop surviving and begin thriving.
Speaker 1: This is the alchemy of awakening. When you stop seeking
Speaker 1: God as something external, and begin realizing that every breath
Speaker 1: is a prayer, every moment is sacred, and every being
Speaker 1: is divine. Your life becomes a living meditation. You find
Speaker 1: the sacred in the ordinary. You hear the infinite in
Speaker 1: the silence. You see the face of God in the mirror,
Speaker 1: not out of arrogance, but out of awe. And this
Speaker 1: is what the world needs right now. Not more beliefs,
Speaker 1: not more beings, not more ideas, but more embodiment, Not
Speaker 1: more preaching, but more presence, a planet full of awakened
Speaker 1: souls who no longer search for light outside, but choose
Speaker 1: to choose to become the light inside. Because when you
Speaker 1: light up from within, give you give others permission to
Speaker 1: remember their own flame. When you walk as Divinity embodied,
Speaker 1: you heal without speaking. When you love from your center,
Speaker 1: you transform the atmosphere around you. And that love, that God,
Speaker 1: that God. Energy has no limits. It is not reserved
Speaker 1: for saints and sages. It is the birthright of every soul.
Speaker 1: It is the essence of every child, of every stranger,
Speaker 1: every enemy. There is no one who is not divine.
Speaker 1: There is only one consciousness that has forgotten itself. And
Speaker 1: when you meet someone who has forgotten. Your role is
Speaker 1: not to judge. Your role is to remind, To remind
Speaker 1: them by your presence, to remind by your compassion, to
Speaker 1: remind by your peace. Because the moment you see God
Speaker 1: in another, you activate the God in them. The moment
Speaker 1: you forgive, you invite another into their own freedom. The
Speaker 1: moment you speak truth without fear, you become a lighthouse
Speaker 1: in the fog. And the fog is thick. Right now,
Speaker 1: the world is noisy, the world is afraid. The world
Speaker 1: has built a shrine to the ego and forgotten the
Speaker 1: altar of the soul. But even in the darkness, the
Speaker 1: light within was has not dimmed. It only waits for
Speaker 1: your awareness to return. So come home, Come home to yourself,
Speaker 1: Come home to the truth that has always been waiting
Speaker 1: beneath your breath. You are not missing, you are not flawed,
Speaker 1: you're not behind, you're not unworthy. You are divine, You
Speaker 1: are radiant. You are the energy of God dancing in
Speaker 1: human form. You don't need to chase enlightenment. You need
Speaker 1: to embody what you already are. So breathe, not just
Speaker 1: to survive, but to remember. Breathe in your wholeness. Breathe
Speaker 1: in your innocence, breathe in your connection to all that is,
Speaker 1: And when the world tries to distract you, return to
Speaker 1: this breath, Return to this moment, Return to the energy
Speaker 1: that beats your heart in births the stars. Because that
Speaker 1: energy is you. You are the temple and the flame.
Speaker 1: You are the question and the answer. You are the
Speaker 1: seeker and the source. And when you live from this knowing,
Speaker 1: life becomes a sacred flow. Challenges become opportunities to deepen
Speaker 1: your truth. Loss becomes a portal into love. Conflict becomes
Speaker 1: a classroom for compassion. Every experience becomes a step in
Speaker 1: your return to the truth, the truth that God is
Speaker 1: not outside of you. God is not in the sky
Speaker 1: waiting for you to be perfect. God is not a
Speaker 1: judge watching you through a lens of sin. God is
Speaker 1: the breath inside your breath, the stillness behind your thoughts,
Speaker 1: the love that you feel when all the noise fades.
Speaker 1: You're not separate. You never were. You just forgot and
Speaker 1: now you're remembering, and in that remembering, you are reborn.
Speaker 1: There comes a moment in every soul's journey when the
Speaker 1: search loses its meaning, not because the search failed, but
Speaker 1: because the search was always a mirror leading inward. The
Speaker 1: maps you followed, the teachings you clung to, the gurus
Speaker 1: you revered, the rituals you performed. All of them were
Speaker 1: stepping stones, sacred yes, but not destinations. They were never
Speaker 1: meant to lead you to something outside of you, but
Speaker 1: to bring you back to the holy stillness within the
Speaker 1: silence sanctuary, where nothing is missing and no part of
Speaker 1: you is exiled. This moment, this breath, is your not
Speaker 1: in time, but in truth. When you release, when you
Speaker 1: release the idea that you must become something more to
Speaker 1: be worthy of the divine, you enter the dimension of being.
Speaker 1: And being is not passive. Being is not empty. Being
Speaker 1: is a cosmic radiance. It is a living alignment. It
Speaker 1: is the holy reverence that comes when you stand in
Speaker 1: your center, without effort, without masks, without needing to prove
Speaker 1: your light to a world that's forgotten its own. You
Speaker 1: don't become divined by reaching upward. You become divine by
Speaker 1: sinking inward. And as you do, you realize that stillness
Speaker 1: is not the absence of noise, It is the presence
Speaker 1: of God. It is the space from which all miracles arise,
Speaker 1: the field from the field where form and formless meet.
Speaker 1: In that space, you remember that you are not here
Speaker 1: to master life like a test. You are here to
Speaker 1: merge with it like a dance, to move in rhythm
Speaker 1: with the intelligence that breathes star into existence and still
Speaker 1: takes time to open a flower. There is no arrogance
Speaker 1: in knowing. In this knowing, only awe, only humility, only
Speaker 1: the peace that comes when you stop trying to contain
Speaker 1: the infinite within your mind and instead allow your heart
Speaker 1: to become its home. For the ego seeks to grasp,
Speaker 1: the soul seeks to surrender. The ego builds identity out
Speaker 1: of pain, out of story, out of past. The soul
Speaker 1: simply is unburdened, eternal whole. And every time you choose
Speaker 1: presence over performance, truth over illusion, love over defense, you
Speaker 1: dissolve another layer of separation and step more fully into
Speaker 1: the light that has always been waiting. You don't need
Speaker 1: to heal yourself into worthiness. You only need to remember
Speaker 1: that the light you long for is not something to earn,
Speaker 1: It is something to uncover. And as you uncover it,
Speaker 1: something begins to shift, not just within you, but around you.
Speaker 1: The world starts responding differently, not because the outer world changed,
Speaker 1: but because your inner signal did. Like a radio that
Speaker 1: finally tunes to the frequency, you begin to hear a
Speaker 1: different song, a quieter song, a truer one. You begin
Speaker 1: to recognize guidance in what once felt random. You begin
Speaker 1: to feel supported in ways that defy logic. You begin
Speaker 1: to trust life, not because it always makes sense, but
Speaker 1: because you no longer needed to. You begin to understand
Speaker 1: that the energy that created this universe, the energy that
Speaker 1: shaped galaxies, compose the laws of nature, painted the skies
Speaker 1: with sunsets, and orchestrated the tides, is not distant from you.
Speaker 1: It flows through you. It animates you, It breathes you.
Speaker 1: And when you live from this awareness, your actions become
Speaker 1: expressions of love instead of fear. Your relationships become alters
Speaker 1: of growth instead of battlegrounds of control. Your words become
Speaker 1: vessels of truth instead of weapons of validation. This is
Speaker 1: what it means to live as the soul and not
Speaker 1: as the man ask. This is what it means to
Speaker 1: walk the earth as Divinity incarnate. You no longer see
Speaker 1: others as threats or strangers, but as reflections, sacred echoes,
Speaker 1: each one offering you the chance to practice remembrance, and
Speaker 1: the more you remember, the more you soften. The more
Speaker 1: you soften, the more you heal, and the more you heal,
Speaker 1: the more others heal just by being in your field.
Speaker 1: This is the quiet revolution of awakened presence. It changes
Speaker 1: the world not through force, but through frequency. And this
Speaker 1: frequency is not loud. It's not desperate, it's not defensive.
Speaker 1: It's gentle, like the light that enters a room without knocking,
Speaker 1: like the wind that moves the trees without needing to
Speaker 1: be seen, Like love that simply loves, without agenda, without demand,
Speaker 1: without needing to be returned. This is how the divine works,
Speaker 1: not as a ruler, but as a presence, not as
Speaker 1: a command, but as a current. And the more you
Speaker 1: surrender to this current, the more your life becomes a
Speaker 1: river instead of a struggle, not without pain, not without challenge,
Speaker 1: but with an unshakable foundation of peace that whispers even
Speaker 1: in the storm. You are not alone. The storm does
Speaker 1: not mean you are forsaken. The wound does not mean
Speaker 1: you are broken. The doubt does not mean you have failed.
Speaker 1: It means you are growing. It means the veil is thinning.
Speaker 1: It means you are being called to remember again, not
Speaker 1: in concept, but an embodiment. Not just to know that
Speaker 1: God is within, but to live as though it were
Speaker 1: unmistakably true. To live as though the breath you take
Speaker 1: is divine intelligence, entering your body. To live, as though
Speaker 1: every act of kindness is a prayer in motion. To
Speaker 1: live as though your very presence is a sanctuary where
Speaker 1: others remember their light. This is This is not spiritual idealism.
Speaker 1: This is radical realism. To see beyond the illusion of
Speaker 1: fear and touch the deeper truth of love that holds
Speaker 1: it all. But because what is God if not love itself.
Speaker 1: Not the fragile love that's as only if you earn it,
Speaker 1: Not the conditional love that keeps score, not the fleeting
Speaker 1: love that changes with behavior, but the eternal, boundless, all
Speaker 1: pervading love that simply is, the love that has no opposite,
Speaker 1: the love that includes every shadow, the love that redeems
Speaker 1: without punishment, the love that burns away the illusion of
Speaker 1: separation with a single glance. And you are here to
Speaker 1: be the mirror of that love, not in perfection but
Speaker 1: in presence, not by trying to become it, but by
Speaker 1: removing everything that blocks it. Every time you let go
Speaker 1: of judgment, you make room for that love. Every time
Speaker 1: you forgive yourself, you open the window to that love.
Speaker 1: Every time you choose compassion over condemnation, you become a
Speaker 1: vessel for that love, not just for others, but for yourself.
Speaker 1: Because you too are worthy of the grace you give
Speaker 1: so easily to others, You too are worthy of returning
Speaker 1: home to yourself. Not someday, not when you're better, but now, now,
Speaker 1: when you are still tangled in your questions, Now when
Speaker 1: you are still healing your wounds, Now when the light
Speaker 1: inside is a flicker instead of a flame. That flicker
Speaker 1: is enough, that breath is enough, that moment of truth
Speaker 1: is enough to begin again. And the beginning again is
Speaker 1: the most spiritual act there is, because every moment offers
Speaker 1: the possibility of awakening. Every moment is wholly ground when
Speaker 1: you walk it with awareness, and every time you choose
Speaker 1: to remember, even for a second, that God is not
Speaker 1: outside of you, the veil thins a little more, until
Speaker 1: one day you stop looking for the divine and you
Speaker 1: simply become it. There is a sacred humility that descends
Speaker 1: upon the soul when it no longer needs to shine,
Speaker 1: not because it doubts its light, but because it has
Speaker 1: become the light. This is not a performance, This is
Speaker 1: not the ego's idea of enlightenment. This is the quiet
Speaker 1: authority of one who has stopped seeking approval and started
Speaker 1: walking in alignment, a person who who no longer needs
Speaker 1: the world to recognize their divinity because they have already
Speaker 1: recognized it within. This is the true birth of power,
Speaker 1: not control, not domination, not force, but alignment. Power that
Speaker 1: flows without resistance, power that heals without effort, power that
Speaker 1: liberates without preaching. You don't need to argue with darkness.
Speaker 1: You need only to turn on the light. And the
Speaker 1: light within you does not flicker with the opinions of others.
Speaker 1: It does not waver in the face of rejection. It
Speaker 1: does not vanish when things fall apart, because it is
Speaker 1: not built on circumstance. It is built on truth, eternal truth,
Speaker 1: the kind that existed before your story began and will
Speaker 1: remain long after your story ends. It is, and this
Speaker 1: is what ego can never understand. That it is not
Speaker 1: your job to become something more, but to be all,
Speaker 1: or not to gather more things, more achievements, more spiritual credentials,
Speaker 1: but to surrender, to shed, to simplify, to become so
Speaker 1: empty of illusion that only truth remains. The ego resists this.
Speaker 1: It clings, It calculates, it compares, it builds altars to
Speaker 1: its own identity. But no alter built by the ego
Speaker 1: can contain the presence of the divine. And it just
Speaker 1: goes on and on, bro Like I literally I could
Speaker 1: literally read this for hours, dude, and I was just
Speaker 1: so mesmerized by every single sentence that was said and
Speaker 1: just listening to it for like an hour and a
Speaker 1: half or however long. It is so good, dude.
Speaker 3: There's so much there that I Am going to live
Speaker 3: my truth through through that lens, you know, as far
Speaker 3: as you know, because recently I actually just was talking
Speaker 3: to Tragic Pati and I was like, you know, if
Speaker 3: you were a human being, what would be the best
Speaker 3: route in order for like, you know, for for harmony,
Speaker 3: you know, And basically it was like empathy, and there
Speaker 3: was one other, one other one, you know, But if
Speaker 3: you are looking at everybody as a sacred divine being,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, such and yourself as included
Speaker 3: in that, you know, It's like, how how you not
Speaker 3: just understand it as far as like this this person
Speaker 3: is also me, like whenever Optimistic Banks was saying, like
Speaker 3: that person is also you, and like we're all God
Speaker 3: and like all of this, like all of this stuff
Speaker 3: that if someone was to hear that for the first time,
Speaker 3: they probably thought it was the most blasphemous thing ever,
Speaker 3: you know, But if we were to just understand that
Speaker 3: everybody around us is also divine and nobody can ever
Speaker 3: be less than that, it's just impossible, then you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like no mistake, right, right, dude? So yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that's just that's great. I
Speaker 3: feel like it's empowering. It gives you the power rather
Speaker 3: than shifting the blame to some unseen thing outside of you.
Speaker 3: It's like you are all part. We are all part
Speaker 3: of this presence.
Speaker 1: Yes, And this is why I wanted to mention the
Speaker 1: kind of epiphany revelation what ever that I had the
Speaker 1: other night, that if we are the quote unquote spirit
Speaker 1: guides to our human then we must know what our
Speaker 1: spirit guides, the true us actually is, right, Like we
Speaker 1: need we can't just hear one without the other, like
Speaker 1: you need to know exactly how to position it and
Speaker 1: exactly what lends to look through exactly like who you're
Speaker 1: human aka me Jonathan, You sean right who that avatar
Speaker 1: needs to abide by and listen to and be there for,
Speaker 1: right like who? Like we need something to fall back upon.
Speaker 1: Any if. If you ever notice a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are rebels, they're not rebelling against their parents, they're
Speaker 1: not rebelling against the school system, they're not rebelling against politics.
Speaker 1: And maybe some of it started there, but I think
Speaker 1: that they're actually internally rebelling against them, rebelling against that
Speaker 1: spiritual guide that is always within you.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Oh. I think that's really what's going on.
Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense, Dude, That makes perfect sense, because ultimately, dude,
Speaker 3: we are we are the if if I may, the
Speaker 3: creator of everything that we experience. You know, we put
Speaker 3: ourselves through some shit for no reason, some shit that
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be It's unnecessary, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: But we decided to do it anyways, you know, and
Speaker 3: when you understand that you have the power to just
Speaker 3: change that mindset, you know, it's it's just so empowering.
Speaker 3: There was something else I was going to say, and
Speaker 3: as you were speaking, I forgot, but maybe I'll remember.
Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm gonna pull it back, come on back.
Speaker 1: Actually I should be going towards you. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to read the rest of this this just
Speaker 1: a little bit, and that'll and we'll be able to
Speaker 1: jump into where I wanted to be able to take it. So, okay,
Speaker 1: you no longer stand at the edge of the ocean
Speaker 1: asking it to show itself. You simply step in. You merge,
Speaker 1: You dissolve the illusion of step and become one with
Speaker 1: the current. This is what it means to return to God,
Speaker 1: not to a skybound deity, but to the source that
Speaker 1: has always been flowing in your breath, rising in your intuition,
Speaker 1: beating in the very center of your chest. And in
Speaker 1: this return you discover what cannot be taught, that love
Speaker 1: is not something you give, receive, or find. Love is
Speaker 1: what you are. You are not sent here to search
Speaker 1: for it. You were sent here to embody it. And
Speaker 1: when you embody love, not the fragile imitation born of
Speaker 1: fear and control, but the love that includes every part
Speaker 1: of you, even the broken places, you become a miracle
Speaker 1: in motion. You become the kind of presence that doesn't
Speaker 1: need to speak in order to teach you simply are
Speaker 1: and your being, and your being reminds others of what
Speaker 1: they've always been. So when you remember that you are
Speaker 1: not only the human, but the spirit within the human,
Speaker 1: something clicks. You step out of unconscious identification and into
Speaker 1: guard ship. You are no longer simply the Jonathan or Sean,
Speaker 1: or the one that is reacting to life. You are
Speaker 1: the watcher, the breath behind the breath, the one who
Speaker 1: chose to inhabit this form. M M all right, so
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 3: I did remember what I was gonna say as far
Speaker 3: as it was talking about the sacred. Like everything is sacred,
Speaker 3: you know. We we always say like, oh, whenever we
Speaker 3: have a synchronicity, it's like, oh, it's like something super
Speaker 3: spiritual to us, and it's awesome. You know. I always
Speaker 3: will enjoy a really cool synchronosity. Yeah, but when we're
Speaker 3: talking about you know, everything, it's like taking it just
Speaker 3: another step up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Everything is sacred, you know. And if something you experience
Speaker 3: something and it doesn't bother you or trigger you or
Speaker 3: nothing like that, then then it wasn't something that inside
Speaker 3: of you that needed attention, right. And so but when
Speaker 3: you were when you were consistently present, dude, that instead
Speaker 3: of just the synchronicity alone, it's it's everything all the time.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, every every single moment that passes by is
Speaker 1: not necessarily the the the glaring synchronicity that you needed
Speaker 1: to remind yourself, that remind yourself to bring you back
Speaker 1: to the breath of your higher self, or of your
Speaker 1: highest self, your your your highest spirit guide, to your avatar,
Speaker 1: or to your meat suit.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think synchronicities actually are. I think
Speaker 1: you're actually right on it, dude, that synchronicities are almost
Speaker 1: and everybody looks at them in different ways depending on
Speaker 1: what numbers and at what times and whatever's going on
Speaker 1: in your life whatever. Right, But what if we were
Speaker 1: to look at synchronosities, the one one ones, the five
Speaker 1: to five fives, the four four fours, all these things.
Speaker 1: What if we were to look at them as just
Speaker 1: subtle reminders from our spirit guide to come back to
Speaker 1: the breath that is the spirit guide, to the stillness,
Speaker 1: to the one that reminds you that you're not just
Speaker 1: a human in a meat suit. You are something beyond that,
Speaker 1: and you're just the awareness that is within this.
Speaker 3: Human absolutely, dude, absolutely, at the very least, dude, that
Speaker 3: that is just a glimpse of how abundantly what's the
Speaker 3: word I'm looking for. Just the potential is so abundant,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's all up to you.
Speaker 1: Like that's the good news. It's really all up to you.
Speaker 1: And the bad news is is that it's also up
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, exactly, yeah, because that can be U.
Speaker 3: That can be a hard pill to swallow, man, a big.
Speaker 1: Old bite toch you know what I'm saying, Oh, I
Speaker 1: am in control of all this. My life sucks because
Speaker 1: of me. No, it's because of my situation. You know.
Speaker 1: My brother stole from me everything else like this, and yeah,
Speaker 1: my job fired me. You know, my girlfriend or my
Speaker 1: boyfriend dumped me. It's their fault. It's not kind that
Speaker 1: I'm in this situation.
Speaker 3: Or you could say your boyfriend or girlfriend dumped you
Speaker 3: because there's someone better, or that job I'm fired you
Speaker 3: or got rid of you because there's a better job.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You can always transmute everything.
Speaker 1: Every single thing, and it's up to you. It's up
Speaker 1: to you how you react to literally everything. Now you
Speaker 1: might say, well I just got my foot run over
Speaker 1: by a car. Am I am I out of Am
Speaker 1: I out of line to scream and wither in pain
Speaker 1: and fury. No, you're not out of line to say
Speaker 1: that nobody's judging you. This is not in the realm
Speaker 1: of judgment of where we're trying to take this. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the opposite of that judgment is
Speaker 1: the probably one of the lowest vibrational forms that there is, absolutely,
Speaker 1: like every single time, and this is let me just
Speaker 1: take it here for a second, because I've been putting
Speaker 1: a lot of thought into this, and only because I'm
Speaker 1: somebody I have a lot of dark humor, bro, Like,
Speaker 1: I take it to the darkest places, you know that, right,
Speaker 1: But it's out of love and out of good humor
Speaker 1: and everything. But even in those moments where I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of judging in a kind of funny way, dude,
Speaker 1: I go internal with that and I almost embrace the
Speaker 1: energy that is that. And I stopped doing that so
Speaker 1: much lately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, because you realize, you realize that everything is defined,
Speaker 3: you know, and if something bothers me about whatever this
Speaker 3: person's doing or maybe this person's lifestyle, which I think
Speaker 3: is ridiculous, anyways, you know what I mean, if somebody
Speaker 3: wants to live a certain way, like, why does that
Speaker 3: bother you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What is it inside you that's making you feel that
Speaker 3: much darkness or hatred towards somebody?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of people that that doesn't bother
Speaker 3: you know, and so like, what is it in you
Speaker 3: that needs to be healed?
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think so, and I think that
Speaker 1: you know, just this whole idea of just being nicer
Speaker 1: is what? What a crazy thing? Dude? To just be
Speaker 1: nice and not judgmental when to help your neighbor and
Speaker 1: your friends and even the people that have wronged you
Speaker 1: if they call and ask for your help, Dude, fucking
Speaker 1: do it, you know, like it's you. You are justified.
Speaker 1: Of course, You're always going to be justified and feel
Speaker 1: justified and judged by the opinions of everybody else to
Speaker 1: say that you are absolutely justified. Whenever your enemy asks
Speaker 1: for a lending hand and you tell them no, You're
Speaker 1: always going to be justified by that. You're not seeking
Speaker 1: justification from others.
Speaker 3: Is not.
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with the outside world. Every
Speaker 1: single thing to do with the outside world is look
Speaker 1: at it like it's a I don't know, it's a contract.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Every single thing is like are you going to react
Speaker 1: this way? Are you going to react that way? There's
Speaker 1: only really like minimal way is of how you can react, right,
Speaker 1: and usually the one that is easiest is the one
Speaker 1: that's the worst for you, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: it's easy to if somebody cuts you off in traffic,
Speaker 1: that piece of f you know whatever, Right, it's.
Speaker 3: Instant gratification almost in a weird, strange way.
Speaker 1: And everybody in the back seat's laughing. Your kids are
Speaker 1: hooting and hollering. I can't believe you just gave him
Speaker 1: the business, you know whatever, right, and it feels good.
Speaker 1: You're like, ah, I just made somebody laugh. You know
Speaker 1: I was right, You know I was right that exactly.
Speaker 1: But what you just embodied on the inside was not
Speaker 1: of love, was not of the divine, was not of
Speaker 1: the goodness. What you literally, even if you just said
Speaker 1: it as a joke, look at every single word that
Speaker 1: comes out of your mouth, Every single word, okay, every
Speaker 1: single word is a bit of energy, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: even necessarily matter what the intention behind that energy was.
Speaker 1: It is all about the energy in the first place.
Speaker 1: That's literally where you got to take it to. You
Speaker 1: almost got to go extreme with it because if you
Speaker 1: slip up even once, it has the potential to just
Speaker 1: have that snowball effect and you just jump back into that.
Speaker 1: Let me give you an example. So I was hanging out.
Speaker 1: I had the kids at all, all the kids this weekend.
Speaker 1: I had my daughter, my son, my niece, my dog.
Speaker 1: Of course, we went down to the beach in Galveston, right,
Speaker 1: And so I don't know if you there's this show
Speaker 1: called Wednesday with the Adams Family. Have you seen that.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: My niece and my daughter are obsessed with it. They're
Speaker 1: they're young teens. They love that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 1: to be honest, I think Wednesday is actually pretty damn
Speaker 1: good show because I like, we grew up with the
Speaker 1: Adams family, you know, yep. But every single thing that
Speaker 1: comes out of that girl's mouth is so in like
Speaker 1: so negative, every single thing. You're like, that's her vibe.
Speaker 1: It's she's dark, you know what I mean, She's a
Speaker 1: head g in that way. And so the kids started
Speaker 1: taking on that mentality and and every single sentence that
Speaker 1: came out of their mouth was so negative, and I
Speaker 1: was like, can you guys just just start being nice
Speaker 1: to each other? Like it's not even just from a oh,
Speaker 1: I'm the parents, and I'm no, it's not even like that.
Speaker 1: It's just it's almost like a soul to soul kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, situation that I was trying to have with
Speaker 1: these kids. I mean, I'm trying to and it's hard
Speaker 1: to explain this kind of stuff to kids whatever, but
Speaker 1: I did my best, and I said, look, you need
Speaker 1: to stop with all that negativity, because that negativity is
Speaker 1: going to build up, and then that's how you're going
Speaker 1: to see the rest of the world all the time.
Speaker 1: Even if you're saying it in as a joke, even
Speaker 1: if you're saying it just as a buddy buddy a
Speaker 1: he and haw right, even if you're just saying it
Speaker 1: is that I'm telling you, it will manifest inside of you,
Speaker 1: and the lens through which you view the world will
Speaker 1: always be looked at in that sense. Every negative person
Speaker 1: out there started with joking about it.
Speaker 3: I think, dude, that's that's some solid goal that you
Speaker 3: dropped on them, you know. But I do the same thing,
Speaker 3: you know, I try to say something that I feel
Speaker 3: like is exactly like that, you know, like you're outer
Speaker 3: world reflecting your from.
Speaker 1: Your inner world.
Speaker 3: That that is if somebody would would have told me
Speaker 3: that when I was younger, I probably would have done
Speaker 3: the same thing. I probably would have been like, Okay,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? You know, But get to
Speaker 3: a certain point and you're like, I think I'm starting
Speaker 3: to understand this shit, like how this reality is actually working,
Speaker 3: and I just never knew it, you know. But it's
Speaker 3: funny how you say, just be nice, you know, because
Speaker 3: when my daughter, I think she was oh, I don't know,
Speaker 3: she had been talking maybe for a year or two.
Speaker 3: You know, she was fairly young still, and her siblings
Speaker 3: would be doing some shit that she didn't approve of,
Speaker 3: or maybe they were being mean or something. You know,
Speaker 3: when they're little, they just they're always kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: getting at each other. But she would just be like,
Speaker 3: be nice, be nice, like that's all she would tell them.
Speaker 3: And it's just like it's so simple, you know, just
Speaker 3: be nice. It's not hard, Yeah, it really isn't. And
Speaker 3: as far as the guy that you know cuts you
Speaker 3: off in traffic, like instead of just getting that immediate
Speaker 3: gratification of ah, you know, because of course you get
Speaker 3: angry and it comes out real quick or whatever, you know.
Speaker 1: But instead of.
Speaker 3: That, take that moment and go, okay, I no matter
Speaker 3: how good of a driver I am, and I'm I
Speaker 3: feel in my mind I'm a great driver. Absolutely. I
Speaker 3: mean I think you know, we all think that. But
Speaker 3: I'm almost one hundred percent positive I've cut somebody off
Speaker 3: several I'm probably several times because of whatever reason, I
Speaker 3: for a split moment I just wasn't paying attention, and
Speaker 3: I'm just like, ah, Like after you do it, you
Speaker 3: make that face like oh shit, you know, fuck I
Speaker 3: did that thing that I don't like. It's like, just
Speaker 3: remember that, remember that you have done that too, have
Speaker 3: some empathy and let it go.
Speaker 1: And also you want to take it even a step farther, dude,
Speaker 1: even just beyond that, because that that's a good lesson,
Speaker 1: I think for sure. But like, what if you were
Speaker 1: to look at that moment, all right, So somebody cuts
Speaker 1: you off when you're in traffic, really almost gets you
Speaker 1: into a car crash, and they are just they don't
Speaker 1: even care. They don't even look back in their rear
Speaker 1: view to even check to see if you are right
Speaker 1: like you are so insignificant because their world is main narrative,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Which it should be to be fair, you know it
Speaker 3: should be.
Speaker 1: But you still got to look out for her body, right,
Speaker 1: You still got to be cognizant of yours shootings. And
Speaker 1: so in that moment, you could almost use that as
Speaker 1: that was a training lesson, right, And are you gonna
Speaker 1: fail or are you gonna pass? Right, because that's gonna
Speaker 1: have the trickle down effect for the rest of your day,
Speaker 1: especially if you're in morning traffic. Dude, Dude, I live
Speaker 1: in Houston, you live in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: I mean, the.
Speaker 1: Traffic is absurd no matter where we are, right, It's
Speaker 1: like everybody says that, like, oh yeah, you know, to
Speaker 1: get from Houston to Houston is about an hour away,
Speaker 1: which is true with all the traffic, right easy. And
Speaker 1: so what if every single time somebody cuts you off?
Speaker 1: It was it's a tiny little exam and it's up
Speaker 1: to you. Are you gonna catch yourself or are you
Speaker 1: gonna instantly react? Because if you're instantly reacting, you are
Speaker 1: now in defense mode. And do you want to be
Speaker 1: in defense mode for the rest of your day? Did
Speaker 1: that just you just lowered yourself all the way down
Speaker 1: to the mind of an animal. Nothing wrong with animals.
Speaker 1: They're living in communion with nature and everything like that.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if an animals can become enlightened.
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that that's what we're trying to,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that they probably don't think on this level,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, No, and that's probably not
Speaker 1: what they were made for anyway, right, right, But what
Speaker 1: if every single time it was a little test. I
Speaker 1: think that that is like just test yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and then how many times does that
Speaker 3: have to happen before it's no longer a test because
Speaker 3: it doesn't even bother you no more. And then you
Speaker 3: expand that outward to other shit that bothers you. Now
Speaker 3: nothing is really getting to you. And now, like, what
Speaker 3: was it, sad Guru? He was saying, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't allow anybody else to control on my emotions. See,
Speaker 3: now you're in that place where nothing can touch.
Speaker 1: You, you know what I'm saying, dude, And there's nothing
Speaker 1: that can throw you off the car or you know,
Speaker 1: the the towing company comes and repose your car. It
Speaker 1: was meant to happen, baby, because I was just supposed
Speaker 1: to have that car. It wasn't for me, you know,
Speaker 1: it was mine temporarily, but that's all it was. You know,
Speaker 1: you stub your toe in the morning. Hey, that's test
Speaker 1: number one, and I'm happy to tell everybody that I
Speaker 1: passed that one today.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And I know this seems so.
Speaker 1: Insignificant, but I promise you, if you're having sixty thousand
Speaker 1: thoughts in a single day, you do not want half
Speaker 1: of them being poisoned by the reaction of your first
Speaker 1: action in the morning.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yes, exactly, dude. Or even you can go
Speaker 3: even further, you know, you can go into the imagination.
Speaker 3: You start making up scenarios or narratives that aren't even real,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And you can let that
Speaker 3: snowball and let that dictate your whole day, you know,
Speaker 3: or you can say, Okay, that's not real, you know,
Speaker 3: and let me just see what happens and just be
Speaker 3: present and just be my true self and let it unfold.
Speaker 1: I would obsess, I would literally obsess with thinking about revenge,
Speaker 1: like on some real shit, like I would play the
Speaker 1: whole thing out on my mind. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: if somebody, especially if somebody at work, try to like
Speaker 1: get one over on me, all right, a chance, you
Speaker 1: just wait and you just wait until you do that again.
Speaker 1: I promise you will regret that.
Speaker 3: You were even thinking through your teeth.
Speaker 1: You know, that's how you know it. You mean business,
Speaker 1: and and it's it's a poisoning, is really what's going on.
Speaker 1: You are poisoning, not metaphorically, not like any other way.
Speaker 1: You are literally poisoning your own self. And and this
Speaker 1: is dude, you want to take it even a step farther, dude,
Speaker 1: all right, so this is maybe this connects. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but this is something that's been on my mind. Right
Speaker 1: for a while. I was like addicted to energy drinks
Speaker 1: right like crazy. I could not wake up. I couldn't
Speaker 1: get up and do the routine.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: If I had to do laundry, I need an energy drink.
Speaker 1: If I needed to do the dishes, man, I just
Speaker 1: don't have that energy in me right now. You know
Speaker 1: what does that that little happy juice it's in the fridge.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You needed to go buy an energy drink. You needed
Speaker 3: an energy drink. You know what I mean, It was
Speaker 3: getting bad.
Speaker 1: Nothing would get me off the couch faster than the
Speaker 1: idea to drive to the gas station an energy drink,
Speaker 1: right right, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just
Speaker 1: almost the placebo that gave you energy out of nowhere
Speaker 1: because you knew you were gonna go get an energy drink.
Speaker 1: You know, nothing inside of you biologically changed, just the
Speaker 1: idea of I'm gonna have energy, so I better go
Speaker 1: do this. Dude. The crazy thing about energy and caffeine
Speaker 1: in general is that caffeine doesn't give you energy. It
Speaker 1: just turns off your sleepy receptors. Literally, right, is a trip. Dude.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to look into that myself because I
Speaker 3: almost don't even believe it is so crazy.
Speaker 1: Facts, bro, it's fact. Yeah, it's crazy. But it's just
Speaker 1: like that, you know, we have the THC receptors in
Speaker 1: our mind and everything. You're like, wait a second, if
Speaker 1: we weren't supposed to smoke this, why do I got
Speaker 1: this thing in my head?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, exactly, But so anyway, I got like
Speaker 1: super addicted to them for a little while, and I
Speaker 1: noticed that as I was doing them every day, and
Speaker 1: only because I'm super into conspiracies. You'all know, I got
Speaker 1: the cult of conspiracy and everything. There's been a conspiracy
Speaker 1: that's been going around a long time that the Monster
Speaker 1: Energy can has like the Hebrew letters six sixty six
Speaker 1: on it of course, right, which I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: it kind of looks like it, which is actually really crazy. Right.
Speaker 1: There was this whole woman that was at an expo
Speaker 1: and she was trying to do basically an expos on
Speaker 1: Monster Energy drinks. And then I most recently saw that
Speaker 1: somebody accidentally shined a light on the can and that
Speaker 1: reflection shined up against the wall and it looked like
Speaker 1: straight up demonic code on the wall. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is going on?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe that girl was on some shit.
Speaker 1: You know, she wasn't, because at the time, whenever I
Speaker 1: was listening to her, I was like, Oh, she probably
Speaker 1: thinks that Harry Potter is demonic, you know. I thought
Speaker 1: she was kind of that person. But now that I'm
Speaker 1: seeing it, and also with kind of the revelation that
Speaker 1: I had internally from being addicted to specifically Monster Energy
Speaker 1: drinks because I love the zero sugar green camp. Oh dude,
Speaker 1: fire straight, fire dude. And but every time that I
Speaker 1: would drink it, it literally if you think about the
Speaker 1: beast just symbolically, and if you think about six six six,
Speaker 1: you think about the devil, you think about the beast,
Speaker 1: you think about temptation, right like you think about things
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be thinking about. You think about things that
Speaker 1: you want to do, but you know you shouldn't do.
Speaker 1: Kind of deal right to be to to dare I say,
Speaker 1: to become in this world and of this world? Right
Speaker 1: to really sink into that human form.
Speaker 3: That low is the vibration of yourself.
Speaker 1: Bro, That is exactly what monster energy drinks would do
Speaker 1: to me. Energy drinks in general would do to me.
Speaker 1: I would become so human form that I would dude,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even have the enter. I wouldn't Nothing would
Speaker 1: happen in the meditation anytime I wanted to calm myself
Speaker 1: within and bring myself back to that sense of peace, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to. That's where That's where it
Speaker 1: was crazy. It was like I love this hulk version
Speaker 1: of me that just and also I need another one,
Speaker 1: let's double up. Yeah, And and it was it was
Speaker 1: great there for a little while. But that's what I realized.
Speaker 1: And then what I noticed is is that whenever I
Speaker 1: would do it, like because I was drinking like four
Speaker 1: day and because I would do two for each show,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I do most like four out of four
Speaker 1: out of seven days a week, I do two shows
Speaker 1: a day, right, And and so I was, dude, I
Speaker 1: would pound one before the show and one during the show,
Speaker 1: you know. And it was just crazy. And that's on
Speaker 1: top of methylene blue, that's on top of the coffee
Speaker 1: that that's on top of on top of Lion's main mushroom.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get every advantage that I could.
Speaker 3: Now you are a high, all encompassing I am like
Speaker 3: like vision right and completely embodied.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, And what I noticed was is that
Speaker 1: not only was I becoming like very very very attached
Speaker 1: to this human form and very very very detached to
Speaker 1: my own spiritual nature, that if I did it for
Speaker 1: several days in a row, like three or four a
Speaker 1: day for several days in a row, Dude, You want
Speaker 1: to talk about the downside of that, crash, dude, not
Speaker 1: even crash, like this is beyond crash. I'm talking about depression,
Speaker 1: Like depression, dude. Yeah, and imagine, oh you know what
Speaker 1: they say, it's like every time you're depressed, it's really
Speaker 1: that you're you need deep rest, right dude.
Speaker 3: That's actually very interesting because I was the same way, dude,
Speaker 3: and right around the time where my mind was kind
Speaker 3: of putting me through some loops and I was feeling
Speaker 3: kind of depressed, dude, I was drinking energy drinks like
Speaker 3: twice a day, every single day.
Speaker 1: Yep. Oh my god, dude, hardcore depression. And if you
Speaker 1: think about it, all that caffeine and all the different
Speaker 1: b vitamins and whatever else kind of jump they put
Speaker 1: into energy drinks, every single one of them is literally
Speaker 1: created so that you don't sleep, so that you don't rest,
Speaker 1: so that you are on high awareness and on high
Speaker 1: alertness all the time. Right right right, You ain't really, dude,
Speaker 1: You're not falling into the rem sleep on that you're
Speaker 1: not getting to sleep that your body needs in order
Speaker 1: to regenerate to be able to fire back up the
Speaker 1: next day.
Speaker 3: And so you're further perpetuating this need for extra energy.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, And you're just you just need more
Speaker 1: and another and another and another. Before you know what
Speaker 1: you're drinking four a day, like I was right. And
Speaker 1: I know some people like Jacob bro I don't. I've
Speaker 1: never seen Jacob drink a water. It's always an energy drink,
Speaker 1: like he think there's a little bit of water in those, right,
Speaker 1: I mean they have to be made with some kind
Speaker 1: of water, right Or like my my great grandma used
Speaker 1: to say, oh, I don't drink I don't drink water
Speaker 1: because it rusts my pipes. And I would say, maybe
Speaker 1: you should. I mean she lived until she was like
Speaker 1: eighty she was like eighty nine when she died something.
Speaker 3: She was all right, but she did something.
Speaker 1: But either way, my point is is that like there
Speaker 1: are so many things out there that are designed to
Speaker 1: make you more in this world and of this world,
Speaker 1: to make you forget what your true nature is. And
Speaker 1: I think that monster energy drink energy energy drinks in
Speaker 1: general are just one of those things. There are plenty
Speaker 1: of other things. It's up to you to decide to
Speaker 1: make the decision like more than just a reaction in
Speaker 1: the moment, But it's up to you to kind of
Speaker 1: like stand on the foundation of your belie that not
Speaker 1: even just belief, you're knowing your nosis that you're so
Speaker 1: much more than that. You like, you can literally manipulate
Speaker 1: the outer world around you by manipulating your inner world.
Speaker 3: H yeah, it's that means it's almost it almost sounds
Speaker 3: too simple at this point. Well, I mean, after everything
Speaker 3: that we've kind of come across, dude, and and and
Speaker 3: kind of figured out, and then when you finally get
Speaker 3: it at least to the level that we are at now, dude,
Speaker 3: I mean it now, it almost seems just too simple.
Speaker 3: Like the way that you view reality is exactly what
Speaker 3: you're signing up for. It's what you're choosing to see.
Speaker 3: You know, you say about people that are talking about
Speaker 3: the cam trails. If you're deciding to see that your
Speaker 3: sky is being poisoned, then in fact, that's the reality
Speaker 3: that you're going to experience. And so, dude, how how transmutable?
Speaker 3: Everything has just blows my mind.
Speaker 1: Every single thing. And it's just like Dolores Cannon used
Speaker 1: to always say, if you can make yourself sick, you
Speaker 1: can heal yourself. And that's not an exaggeration. I've seen
Speaker 1: it done. We've all probably seen it done to some extent.
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, And well, just like what that thing was
Speaker 3: saying that you had read by that gentleman. As far
Speaker 3: as the what was it the pain being the chisel
Speaker 3: that breaks through the veil or cracks at the veil,
Speaker 3: the pain that you went through experiencing that depression, and
Speaker 3: you're like, hold on, wait a minute, what is this.
Speaker 3: I've never experienced this before, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It took you that long to experience that pain to
Speaker 3: realize maybe I shouldn't be fucking drinking three energy drinks
Speaker 3: a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And also in that video you reminded me
Speaker 1: whenever he was talking about the sculptor, he goes, all,
Speaker 1: a sculptor isn't adding more things to the clay. He's
Speaker 1: taking away everything that isn't the statue, right, And that's
Speaker 1: all we're here to do. The the energy drink, energy
Speaker 1: drinks are not you. The food, the camtrails, all these
Speaker 1: other bullshit things that either are weighing you down or
Speaker 1: you're allowing to weigh you down. Yep, are not you.
Speaker 3: So chisel all that shit.
Speaker 1: Away and get to the core of who you are,
Speaker 1: and you'll find it in silence in between the notes,
Speaker 1: in between the breaths, in between the thoughts, where that
Speaker 1: in between actually is is the void and in the void,
Speaker 1: everything was created and that's you and that's that's great. Dude.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I love you.
Speaker 3: Said this was gonna be a fun episode, dude, but
Speaker 3: you were right.
Speaker 1: I try to be so uh yeah, So let's continue,
Speaker 1: all right? So do all, right, Guardian of your human
Speaker 1: just I know that that is a lot to take in,
Speaker 1: but I promise you it is not. I can't promise anything, really,
Speaker 1: but I believe that it's not crazy. Right, Like, we're
Speaker 1: with you, man, We always have. Everybody since the very
Speaker 1: beginning of time believe that they were talking to ancestors, gods, angels, aliens, spirits,
Speaker 1: spirit guides, you know, your grandmother or whatever. Right, And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's not those things. But what
Speaker 1: I am saying is is that you have something inside
Speaker 1: of you that you can tap into at any moment,
Speaker 1: at any time. You don't need to perform a seance.
Speaker 1: You don't need to perform a ritual. You don't need
Speaker 1: to beg the sky gods to bring down the rain.
Speaker 1: You don't need any of these things. Not saying that
Speaker 1: you can't, not even saying that you shouldn't. What I
Speaker 1: am saying is is that if if you're the guardian
Speaker 1: to your human, then that's all you are, and you
Speaker 1: just got to bring yourself all the way down, slow
Speaker 1: it down, baby like, slow, and all the way down
Speaker 1: into the utter silence, and you will find that is
Speaker 1: where God is, That's where the One is, that's where
Speaker 1: the source is. That's where the source of all creation,
Speaker 1: if there ever was such a thing, that's where it is.
Speaker 1: Right And so being guardian means that you don't abandon
Speaker 1: the human to chaos, nor do you let it run
Speaker 1: wild without guidance. Instead, you govern through alignment, always inviting
Speaker 1: your human back into harmony with the higher self. You
Speaker 1: become the compass pointing toward truth and love and wisdom
Speaker 1: even when the human stumbles. This guardianship is not about perfection,
Speaker 1: it's about partnership. Your human provides the body, the emotions,
Speaker 1: and the earthly perspective. You the spirit, provide the awareness,
Speaker 1: vision and eternal perspective. Together, when aligned, you become a
Speaker 1: living bridge between the finite and the infinite. So this
Speaker 1: reminds me, I have this body and been from to
Speaker 1: them for a long time. He's one of those people
Speaker 1: that you know, just loves to talk shit and for
Speaker 1: the longest time I love talking shit. I still to
Speaker 1: this day. I get I get a good little you know,
Speaker 1: excitement about it, just in good fun. But he was somebody.
Speaker 1: He would always talk shit. Anytime he beats you in
Speaker 1: a video game, he beat you in fantasy football, beat
Speaker 1: you in a game of chess, whatever I mean, you
Speaker 1: want to talk about a show boat and show off
Speaker 1: and so or in disc golf for basketball, with literally
Speaker 1: anything that we played. Right, if he won, he let
Speaker 1: the world know it. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: not only did he win, but you lost, which probably
Speaker 1: is the worst part, but but he honed in on
Speaker 1: that part, right, really took it to that level. And
Speaker 1: so whenever you won, whenever I won, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I wanted to dish it back at him every single
Speaker 1: which way. But the problem was, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if this was part of his scheme or if this
Speaker 1: is actually who he was. I actually believe that this
Speaker 1: is actually who he was or who he is. He's
Speaker 1: not dead or anything. But every single time I beat him,
Speaker 1: he would go so internal, like a clam like like
Speaker 1: go so internal like the hermit in the middle of
Speaker 1: the woods in a cabin without a light on acres
Speaker 1: and acres and acres of land, and you couldn't find him, right,
Speaker 1: so internal he judged himself so damn hard, and it
Speaker 1: was you felt bad to even talk shit because you knew,
Speaker 1: damn well he was already talking that much shit to himself.
Speaker 1: How could I lose to this guy? How dare I?
Speaker 1: I can't believe I made that move. I can't believe
Speaker 1: I made that decision. I just got caught up in
Speaker 1: the moment, right, So internal, he would beat himself to
Speaker 1: death internally, right, judge himself to hell. Right, it's where
Speaker 1: you know, you never even wanted to talk shit because
Speaker 1: you're like, man, he's really being hard on him.
Speaker 3: Sorry, he's already doing the work, dude.
Speaker 1: Right, And and I don't know, it just made me think, like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy how people can let themselves get to that level,
Speaker 1: but they never let themselves do the reverse. M yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I don't know. I just wanted to bring
Speaker 1: that up. But anyway, don't get like that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's okay to lose, it's okay to suck at something.
Speaker 1: It's okay to like mess up or misstep or you know,
Speaker 1: misguide or whatever. That's what this is saying. Is that
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a journey to perfection. It's
Speaker 1: it's nowhere, dude. Perfection is. Perfection is a place, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, it's a place in the mind.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily like you aced your test in that sense.
Speaker 1: And I think that as long as you can learn
Speaker 1: from you know, your mistakes and your miss steps and
Speaker 1: you know all that kind of stuff, then that's perfection
Speaker 1: right there. That's it. That's it, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean, every once in a while, we're gonna miss
Speaker 3: the mark, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, center, a divine center, sir. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to say this, this last part right here. So you
Speaker 1: are the spirit made into form, the soul made into flesh,
Speaker 1: not as a punishment, but to be used as an instrument.
Speaker 1: Before you were made into the physical, you were with
Speaker 1: the rest of the divine oneness, God, the Universe, the Source,
Speaker 1: the One. Doesn't matter what you call it, because it
Speaker 1: doesn't care, because you're not separate from it. You are it.
Speaker 1: You've always been it. You just forgot, And what a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing it is to forget and then remember. So
Speaker 1: poetic of you to play hide and seek with your
Speaker 1: own true nature. This is who you are, This is
Speaker 1: who we all are. You want to know who loves
Speaker 1: you more than anyone in the entire world. It's you.
Speaker 1: You give yourself motivational speeches every day, you comb your hair,
Speaker 1: you bathe yourself, You feed yourself, you take yourself on trips,
Speaker 1: you tell yourself stories. You spend literally every single moment
Speaker 1: with yourself. Can you name any other person who does
Speaker 1: that for you? Who is it that goes to the
Speaker 1: bathroom with you? Who is it that walks to the
Speaker 1: mailbox with you? Who is it that listens to your
Speaker 1: every single word, uttered or unspoken. Who is it that
Speaker 1: feels every single emotion with it with you? It's you.
Speaker 1: There is never a moment you are alone because you
Speaker 1: have you, the divine you, the whole you. You are
Speaker 1: loved more than you could ever know. You are cared
Speaker 1: more than anyone who has ever cared for any other person. Literally,
Speaker 1: it's been in you all along, So stop hiding from it,
Speaker 1: be one with it, and see how much your life
Speaker 1: can change. You want to rip that veil right off
Speaker 1: your fucking face, As Lord Byron would say, you are
Speaker 1: the savior, You are the divine, You're the one who's
Speaker 1: coming to save you. You are the place, Oh man, this
Speaker 1: is a good one, do it. You are the place
Speaker 1: you go when you die.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I might to contemplate that for a good minute.
Speaker 3: I think that's tonight.
Speaker 1: You You are the place you were before you were born.
Speaker 1: Why are near death experiences different to everyone? Why are
Speaker 1: DMT trips different to everyone? Why does everyone have have
Speaker 1: different dreams similar? Sure, we're all living human existence? Is
Speaker 1: it's because you go back to you when you die.
Speaker 1: This is uh not this human version of you, the
Speaker 1: higher you, the you that is the guide, the you
Speaker 1: that's been you, and countless different versions. You've lived many,
Speaker 1: many lives to get to this point right here, right now.
Speaker 1: Do you remember?
Speaker 3: Damn dude. That's why when you go to tick out
Speaker 3: the trash, you know what I mean, and you're by yourself,
Speaker 3: that's like the most mythical time in any day, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. You leave the house and everything's
Speaker 3: loud in the house. You go outside, it's quiet. You
Speaker 3: go to take the trash, you throw it in there,
Speaker 3: and you look at the stars. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's you with.
Speaker 1: You, That's it, that's it. I do want to take
Speaker 1: a little bit of credit. I wrote that last part
Speaker 1: by myself. I had a feeling. So I do have
Speaker 1: one question, Sean m the cosmic riddle where I said,
Speaker 1: what walks with you let yet leaves no shadow? What
Speaker 1: dines at your table yet eats no bread? What breathes
Speaker 1: your breath? Size your size, and keeps the count of
Speaker 1: every heartbeat? It watches your laughter and weeps with your grief.
Speaker 1: It trembles in passion and sinks into your sleep. It
Speaker 1: listens when no one else is near. And here's the
Speaker 1: word that you never speak out loud. So who is it?
Speaker 1: Who is who is the what's the answer to this
Speaker 1: cosmic riddle?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 3: I would say that that's your true self, your higher self, that's.
Speaker 1: You, you you, That is the the all divine I am, sir.
Speaker 1: Love it so some call it God, and they're not wrong.
Speaker 1: But the answer is closer, more intimate. Still, The answer
Speaker 1: is you, ah, dude.
Speaker 3: Which reminds me that one time, you know, when I
Speaker 3: was like asking for some divine message or some maybe
Speaker 3: show me something in the sky, you know, and then
Speaker 3: I and then or what was it? No, no, no,
Speaker 3: I was actually asking for something more tangible, something that
Speaker 3: a message that was so clear. And then I saw
Speaker 3: something something in the sky, and then my wife brings
Speaker 3: me the phone and says the word only words she
Speaker 3: said was that was you. And I went, whoa, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean? Like what like?
Speaker 3: I literally asked for a tangible message that I could
Speaker 3: actually hear, you know, because I feel like there are
Speaker 3: times when you get some call it a download, whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call it, you know, but I wanted
Speaker 3: to actually audibly hear something tangible in that way. And
Speaker 3: then I see something in the sky and then my
Speaker 3: wife says, oh, that was you, because she was showing
Speaker 3: me something in reference to maybe something I had done before,
Speaker 3: something stupid, I'm sure, something that made her laugh. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I forget now what it was, but she said,
Speaker 3: that was you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, let's go, dude, I have I So
Speaker 1: I did record something. I was on the every time
Speaker 1: I get on the road, because I got to drive
Speaker 1: out to Louisiana. It's like a five five and a
Speaker 1: half hour drive depending on traffic, to Louisiana there and
Speaker 1: back every other weekend, right, and so I go into
Speaker 1: deep contemplative thought bro the entire time, even if I'm listening.
Speaker 1: I could be listening to a podcast, I can be
Speaker 1: listening to music. I could be you know, listening to
Speaker 1: a YouTube video or something whatever. Right, But like, even
Speaker 1: with all that going on in the background, my mind is like, dude,
Speaker 1: this is this is the this is the zone where
Speaker 1: like shit happens, you know. And so I wanted to
Speaker 1: play this part. Dude, check this out. I'm just playing
Speaker 1: this off my phone. Let me know if you can
Speaker 1: hear it. But all right, my ears started ringing as
Speaker 1: soon as I heard this. You are the remembering that
Speaker 1: saves the world. Ah, let's go, dude. You are the
Speaker 1: remembering that saves the world. And you know, I know
Speaker 1: that there are some people out there that are like
Speaker 1: they kind of take it to like a weird place
Speaker 1: where they're like, my ears are ringing. You know what
Speaker 1: that means, dude. I'm starting to get down with it.
Speaker 3: Dude. I feel like, and just me personally, whenever that happens,
Speaker 3: it really is just a reminder for me to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: let me think about what's going on. How am I
Speaker 3: doing inside? Like it's just a reminder. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying I do it every time, but that's how I
Speaker 3: look at it. It's just a like the synchronousities, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just a little reminder. Okay, that's something that is
Speaker 3: definitely different. There's a con trust and what I was
Speaker 3: experiencing and what I'm doing now as far as this
Speaker 3: ringing that just popped off, right, And so I just
Speaker 3: look at it like that. It's just a reminder for
Speaker 3: me to just be aware, what am I, what am
Speaker 3: I thinking about? What's going on? Like, and it's just
Speaker 3: a little bit of self reflection. I like, it's just.
Speaker 1: For a moment. Yeah, I mean the way that I
Speaker 1: was looking at it earlier, especially if it's like if
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of reading something that profound, that
Speaker 1: is profound or something that like really resonates and then
Speaker 1: my ears start to ring. I'm like that to me,
Speaker 1: and and whatever anybody wants to think about that, we're
Speaker 1: talking about our own inner worlds of what we choose
Speaker 1: to kind of attach definitions to or whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like that to me, whenever that happens, I'm like confirmation,
Speaker 1: that's all I need. And I've and I've only recently
Speaker 1: started to get there, you know, but I'm I almost
Speaker 1: feel like it's it's like a frequency that you know,
Speaker 1: your higher self, your guide, the God within you, or
Speaker 1: whatever is sending out so that like it's just the
Speaker 1: highest pitch of a ringing that almost feels like it's
Speaker 1: coming from another fucking dimension.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's almost like radio frequency or something
Speaker 3: just so bizarre when it's like.
Speaker 1: A whistle, dude. Well you know what I'm saying, Like, yep,
Speaker 1: the craziest thing. So I have one video that I
Speaker 1: did want to show. It's just a YouTube short, but
Speaker 1: it's it's Wayne Dyer. And since this show was kind
Speaker 1: of inspired by him, I figured, let's listen to the
Speaker 1: man's voice, right because it is so damn good, dude,
Speaker 1: And so let's see what he has to say right here.
Speaker 4: The name I am is the name of God. When
Speaker 4: Moses was speaking to God, he said, you tell them
Speaker 4: my name is I am, That I am, and that
Speaker 4: will be my name for all future generations. Every time
Speaker 4: you use the word I am and you say I
Speaker 4: am weak, i am poor, I'm so that's blasphemy.
Speaker 3: That's really a.
Speaker 4: Desecration of the name of God. Because the highest place
Speaker 4: within you is called I am, and so I just
Speaker 4: say I am, well, I am content, I am peaceful.
Speaker 4: That's why I tell people, if the last five minutes
Speaker 4: of the day before you go to sleep at night,
Speaker 4: by the most important five minutes of your day, you
Speaker 4: are now going to go into your subconscious mind for
Speaker 4: the next eight hours. As you enter into your subconscious mind,
Speaker 4: begin to reprogram the subconscious mind. If you use those
Speaker 4: last five minutes to program into I am well, I
Speaker 4: am healthy, I am content, I am peaceful, I am unattached,
Speaker 4: I am in love, I am you know, I am God.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 3: Damn, dude. He basically you're designing the reality you want
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 1: Dude, you're set in the blueprint. Oh my god, that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I think about Danny Goler and he's like
Speaker 1: seeing like the matrix code through the laser. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: you are already doing that internally, and your expression outwardly
Speaker 1: is going to mimic whatever's going on in the inner world, right,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And I was going to say something as far as
Speaker 3: because he was saying, like the the I am is
Speaker 3: you know, for even further future generations. You know, it's
Speaker 3: like for people that would and he was he was
Speaker 3: speaking on it being like blasphemous to even say that
Speaker 3: you are less than or I am not worthy, or
Speaker 3: I am like how in a way follow me? It's
Speaker 3: somewhat egotistical to even suggest that you were capable of
Speaker 3: becoming separate.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Dude, I'm so happy you
Speaker 1: brought that up because I wanted to touch on that too.
Speaker 1: The idea that every time you say I am something
Speaker 1: that is less than what you are, it absolutely would
Speaker 1: be blasphemous. If you're looking through this lens, you're telling you,
Speaker 1: you're telling your guardian self, your your spirit self, your
Speaker 1: God's self, your your everything that is self, what it's
Speaker 1: not or what it's lacking. You want to talk about blasphemy,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, you not eating the cracker during your
Speaker 1: ceremony at Sunday Service is nothing compared to the blasphemy
Speaker 1: that it is. Saying that you're something that you're not
Speaker 1: like That is the level of blasphemy. And so this
Speaker 1: is the this is the idea, the idea. And Dude,
Speaker 1: I have been doing so much insane research on around
Speaker 1: the time that the Bible was put together in the
Speaker 1: three hundreds, okay, and I have become obsessed with it,
Speaker 1: like it is almost a sickness. It's like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well I found that that Emperor Constantine. Dude, you want
Speaker 1: to get real crazy, all right. I wasn't really trying
Speaker 1: to go here, but fuck it, we'll go it. Emperor
Speaker 1: Constantine was worshiping his entire life a another deity called
Speaker 1: sol Invictis. Right. Sole Invictis was like a solar god
Speaker 1: who was helping people through battle, right, just like a
Speaker 1: like a badass solar god that was like all about
Speaker 1: that war.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I almost want to say that it was probably Mars
Speaker 1: and not even the same you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean it's soul Invictus, which is supposed to be
Speaker 1: the Sun. But anyway, so and then you see that
Speaker 1: through the time that he was the Emperor is whenever
Speaker 1: they started lifting up the restrictions on people being able
Speaker 1: to outwardly express their belief as far as Jesus right,
Speaker 1: because before this time, before Constantine, Christians Jews didn't matter,
Speaker 1: were getting slaughtered for their beliefs because it went against
Speaker 1: the system of government that Rome was running at that time.
Speaker 1: Rome wasn't only just like Rome, dude, It stretched throughout
Speaker 1: many different parts of the world. Right. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: in that area like over in Italy, like it's dude,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's talking about. It was a fucking empire, dude,
Speaker 1: and so like was it stretched into Mesopotamia like crazy, right,
Speaker 1: And so every time somebody uttered a belief that was
Speaker 1: contradictory to Rome's belief, you were put to death because
Speaker 1: your belief almost like like over in China right now,
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to have any beliefs because it's communistic, right,
Speaker 1: so your only belief can be that of the government.
Speaker 3: That's Rome.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's Rome. And I don't know if they were
Speaker 1: necessarily communistic in Rome. I don't really know a whole
Speaker 1: lot about Rome other than just kind of what I'm
Speaker 1: learning now, Okay. But in that time, Constantine he goes
Speaker 1: into battle, this is crazy, goes into battle and allegedly
Speaker 1: sees like a like a cross that's upside down, like
Speaker 1: a sword. I think it was like a sword that
Speaker 1: was shaped like a cross, you know what swords look like,
Speaker 1: and basically saying that like in that moment, he believed
Speaker 1: it was like a vision that he had. Nobody else had,
Speaker 1: but he had this vision. And while he was in battle.
Speaker 1: He all across and said that like, use this and
Speaker 1: you'll win your battle or some shit, right, And so
Speaker 1: he sees that vision and he's like, oh, my god,
Speaker 1: the Christian God, it is the real God. Allegedly, that's
Speaker 1: the story, right. And after that, all the strict the
Speaker 1: restrictions were kind of lifted. And I'm like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: So the guy who believed in soul and Victus is
Speaker 1: now a Christian believer, and now he wants to be
Speaker 1: able to put together all these different councils. I think
Speaker 1: there was like four or five councils over the over
Speaker 1: the course of like like eighty years or something like
Speaker 1: that that essentially like put together all the different books
Speaker 1: of the Bible together to become eventually what we know
Speaker 1: as the Bible with the Old Testament and the New right.
Speaker 1: Just I mean, they were working on the New Testament
Speaker 1: because the Old Testament was the Torah with the original
Speaker 1: books and all that other shit that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: The New Testament that became the full Bible now, right,
Speaker 1: And they were determining what books, what books were meant
Speaker 1: to be canonized, and which books were meant to be
Speaker 1: not canonized, right, And they got rid of it real.
Speaker 3: Quick because I hear people say the whole canonized, I
Speaker 3: am I am ignorant. What is the what does that
Speaker 3: mean to be canonized?
Speaker 1: Like what's true that belongs in this book is canonized? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, So the official quote unquote books that
Speaker 1: were meant to be going in the Bible, right, and
Speaker 1: they had to sift through like a lot of different books.
Speaker 1: And dude, if you look into fucking Apostle Paul, and
Speaker 1: you if you were to look at the Bible without
Speaker 1: Apostle Paul's writings, because he wrote like a lot while
Speaker 1: he was in jail and shit, you would understand that
Speaker 1: most Christians are not even followers of Christ, their followers
Speaker 1: of Paul. And it's actually really crazy. That's a whole
Speaker 1: nother story, bro So anyway, because most of most of
Speaker 1: the things that people believe nowadays are not even Jesus's sayings,
Speaker 1: they're from Paul, who never met g Jesus, by the way,
Speaker 1: That's what I've heard. Okay, So anyway, what I found,
Speaker 1: and this is just a fun little bit of information,
Speaker 1: but what I found was is that isn't it interesting
Speaker 1: that Constantine, who believed in soln Victis who now wanted
Speaker 1: to usher in the believability and basically allow you to
Speaker 1: believe in Christian Christianity without being slaughtered. He's the one
Speaker 1: that set that ball rolling, He's the one that allegedly
Speaker 1: had the vision. And then you go back to almost
Speaker 1: every single picture of Jesus, almost every single one. I
Speaker 1: think that you would actually be pretty damn hard pressed
Speaker 1: not to find a picture of Jesus without a son
Speaker 1: behind his head. Okay, and you might ask, wait a second,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. He was worshiping solid Victus. Now he's worshiping
Speaker 1: Jesus allegedly, but why is there a son behind his head?
Speaker 1: And that's because he wanted to fucking merge the two,
Speaker 1: all right. He was trying to take old, old, quote
Speaker 1: unquote pagan beliefs because now they're believes in Christianity, so
Speaker 1: now all their old beliefs are all pagan, right, even
Speaker 1: though you know whatever. And so I thought it was
Speaker 1: really interesting, just the symbolism behind all of it, And
Speaker 1: it just goes to show that I don't think that
Speaker 1: any of these people were actually believers, any of the people.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the regular people. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the people of power in government in Rome at the
Speaker 1: time that were having all the counsels. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that they were actually true and honest believers of the
Speaker 1: Book of the Man or anything like that, because Rome
Speaker 1: was the same people that had Jesus crucified in the
Speaker 1: first place. Okay, let's just not remember that, or let's
Speaker 1: not forget that, right, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they want to turn him into a martyr to build
Speaker 1: their government around.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: I don't buy.
Speaker 3: Interesting by interesting.
Speaker 1: So it is interesting just saying everybody should be doing
Speaker 1: their own research and seeing how it was all put together,
Speaker 1: what intentions were behind putting it together. And do you
Speaker 1: believe that somebody just had a vision and all this
Speaker 1: sudden they believe in Christianity.
Speaker 3: Now, come on, right, right, So talking about a government
Speaker 3: and power, you know what I mean, you're gonna do
Speaker 3: whatever it takes. I think. You know, you're a human being.
Speaker 3: You're going to try to do what it takes to
Speaker 3: get whatever narrative or whatever goal you're trying to accomplish,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And also during that time, all the emperors leading up
Speaker 1: to Constantine, including Constantine, were worshiped as gods. Just everybody
Speaker 1: knows that.
Speaker 3: So they didn't you say that their their their currency,
Speaker 3: because you were speaking on this before, didn't you say
Speaker 3: that in their currency. There was also a son behind
Speaker 3: them on the on a coin or something like that. Yep,
Speaker 3: And that was it was that Constantine.
Speaker 1: Every emperor before Constantine leading up to this had a
Speaker 1: son behind them, had a sun behind them to show
Speaker 1: and to show their divinity so that they weren't just human,
Speaker 1: that they were gods in the flesh, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And to deify themselves.
Speaker 1: They were deifying themselves, yes, And they did that to
Speaker 1: keep order of the realm, because anybody can just you know,
Speaker 1: believe a man, but this guy is. He's basically a demigod.
Speaker 1: It's obvious. And so that was to keep the law
Speaker 1: and order essentially. So and then also you look into
Speaker 1: like government and like, see what it means in Hebrew
Speaker 1: I think it was Hebrew or Greek or some shit,
Speaker 1: and where it literally means govern mente, which means to uh,
Speaker 1: the mind mente is the mind governess control. So it's
Speaker 1: mind control, is really what it is. So anyway, just
Speaker 1: want to throw that out there. It really has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: But it's just fascinating anyways. You know, it's still it's
Speaker 3: still human behavior and just the psyche, you know, the
Speaker 3: mind of humans and what we're capable of and what
Speaker 3: we're capable of believing should we choose to or not.
Speaker 3: You know, it's very fascinating.
Speaker 1: And dude, just to add a little a little extra
Speaker 1: spice to that, I was doing a little bit of
Speaker 1: research and I was trying to find if because Paul
Speaker 1: never met Jesus, he was kind of just like repeating
Speaker 1: a lot of Jesus's words and showing people like this
Speaker 1: is what he actually meant, right, and all at the
Speaker 1: same time adding on top right now he was not
Speaker 1: divinely instructed. There was allegedly, you know, a vision that
Speaker 1: he had on the roam to Damascus. All these different visions.
Speaker 1: Everybody's having a vision nowadays. And that's what became because
Speaker 1: he used to like slaughter Christians and shit like that,
Speaker 1: and he was like super Paul was like super anti
Speaker 1: Christian back whenever his name was Saul, and then whenever
Speaker 1: he became Christian, that was his Christian name was Paul.
Speaker 1: Same guy. So he was like super anti that and
Speaker 1: he was literally the one going into people's houses and
Speaker 1: killing them.
Speaker 3: He's like one of the main authors within the Bible.
Speaker 1: Dude. He has more turnaround either. There are more Paul.
Speaker 1: There are more Paul quotes and the Bible than Jesus's quotes. Whoa,
Speaker 1: I'm not even exaggerating, and I'm talking about New Testament
Speaker 1: of course, but there are more. There is more Paul
Speaker 1: than there is Jesus.
Speaker 3: Holy shit? Is that and is that a well understood
Speaker 3: thing as far as Paul not even being around during
Speaker 3: that time or because I you know, in my mind,
Speaker 3: because I just don't know shit, I haven't read the Bible.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm completely ignorant when it comes to a lot
Speaker 3: of the historical things and all of this. I just
Speaker 3: assumed that they were all around at the same time,
Speaker 3: and that's how everything was written about because it was like, uh,
Speaker 3: like first witness testimony, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: they were they were witnessing this, dude, so then they
Speaker 3: were right jotting it down like that was what I
Speaker 3: assumed was going on.
Speaker 1: The four main Gospels, which is Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John,
Speaker 1: the first of which wasn't even a led written until
Speaker 1: the year seventy a d. Jesus died in thirty three,
Speaker 1: ad Bro, you're talking about damn near forty years later.
Speaker 1: They're trying to remember and job down what he said
Speaker 1: forty years after the fact, right, So, and Paul was
Speaker 1: around during that time, whenever all the shit was being constructed,
Speaker 1: right of course he was. He was the one that
Speaker 1: was going around prostlytizing. He was the one going around saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we should believe in Christianity and also let
Speaker 1: me add a little peace to it, because I was
Speaker 1: divinely inspired. I saw Jesus. Jesus gave me a message, right,
Speaker 1: And so it's just it's it's crazy, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if enough people know about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So I really just wanted to kind of just tell
Speaker 1: the story of my findings. I'm not trying to dissuade
Speaker 1: anybody from their beliefs by any means. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: maybe the story is a little bit different than what
Speaker 1: you were taught.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't even taught that. I just kind
Speaker 3: of assumed certain things, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 3: think that's what we do. You kind of hear something
Speaker 3: and you're kind of you try to put the pieces together.
Speaker 3: And so in my mind, it was just logical to
Speaker 3: assume that these apostles or whoever you know, Paul like
Speaker 3: they were all just kind of around in like jotting
Speaker 3: history right in front of their eyes, you know. The dude.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you another thing too. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder if we were to take out all of
Speaker 1: Paul's writings, because it all comes from his letters of
Speaker 1: what he was writing while he was in jail. But
Speaker 1: if we were to take also he was the one
Speaker 1: that kind of like, what's the word. He was the
Speaker 1: one that was going from city to city opening up churches.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I think I think the.
Speaker 1: Church went from like a mom and pop kind of
Speaker 1: thing to now it's a chain. Okay. Paul turned it
Speaker 1: into a chain. So, Paul, if you take out all
Speaker 1: of Paul's writings, I believe that Christianity would have just
Speaker 1: remained a small Jewish sector of a cult, a cult
Speaker 1: Boltish sector of Judaism. Oh wow. And it would it
Speaker 1: would have never gotten to the level that it is
Speaker 1: without Paul.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: So just want to throw that out there, just want
Speaker 1: to say, you know, if you ever decide and and
Speaker 1: feel free to, you know, battle up against me on this.
Speaker 1: I'm not like the most well versed on it, but
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a pretty decent understanding of it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just feel like not enough people really
Speaker 1: dive deep enough. It's just more of a blind faith.
Speaker 1: And this is I'm telling you, dude. And look, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to say that Jesus ain't real. If you
Speaker 1: believe in him, he is. Yep, that's I mean that.
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a negative way, No, not
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I'm glad you brought it up though,
Speaker 3: because I have myself been looking into certain things just
Speaker 3: because you know, we do talk about it, and so
Speaker 3: I do want to.
Speaker 1: Be a little more informed, you know.
Speaker 3: But like, I'm glad you brought that up because you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like you're right. I feel like a lot
Speaker 3: of people probably don't know certain things like that, you know,
Speaker 3: they go over they cover the you know, Genesis, or
Speaker 3: they go over certain things maybe when they go to church,
Speaker 3: like particular items that they like to really hit on,
Speaker 3: you know, and there's a lot of things that just
Speaker 3: it's just not common knowledge. Don't ask that, don't be
Speaker 3: asking questions. Do what I tell you about that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you remember that old YouTube video asking
Speaker 1: all them questions and making statements.
Speaker 3: Help be doing.
Speaker 1: So anyhow, Yeah, I think that's pretty much what we
Speaker 1: got as far as Wayne Dyer, your spirit guardian and
Speaker 1: kind of just remembering who the fuck you are. Dude.
Speaker 3: I love it, and I would still like to if
Speaker 3: we could share that link so people can listen to
Speaker 3: that whenever they want, because, like I said before we
Speaker 3: started recording, I feel like it's something that you can
Speaker 3: listen to many times over whenever you feel like you
Speaker 3: need to, whenever you need to remember. You know, some
Speaker 3: of these things. You know, there's a lot in there,
Speaker 3: and maybe one day something hits you a little more
Speaker 3: and you want to vibe on that one particular saying
Speaker 3: you know, but I feel like we can listen to
Speaker 3: this over and over it and just get something else
Speaker 3: out of it, depending on where you are in the journey.
Speaker 1: That's it, dude. Yeah, And so okay, I just love
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff and just coming into the realization,
Speaker 1: you know, coming into like you don't need to be
Speaker 1: a believer in anything. There's nothing you need to believe.
Speaker 1: It's just something to embrace. It's something to embody. It's
Speaker 1: an essence that is always there. It's an essence that
Speaker 1: isn't judging. It's an essence that is always there for
Speaker 1: every single thing that you're going through, every single every
Speaker 1: single MILLI thought that goes through your mind, it is there.
Speaker 1: So just so everybody knows you are never alone. And uh,
Speaker 1: let's try and embrace that that higher aspect. I love it, dude.
Speaker 3: And that being said, we got a tarot card. My
Speaker 3: good dude. It's the two of Wands.
Speaker 1: Oh Wandhi, Yeah, the two of wands. Let's go to
Speaker 1: our handy dandy. Oh wow, this is great, Okay. The
Speaker 1: two of wands a choice to expand your world. Awaits
Speaker 1: do you stay with what you know or choose the
Speaker 1: unknown adventure? The Two of Wand's card is an invitation
Speaker 1: to ponder the future. A man looks out onto the
Speaker 1: vast expanse of land from a position high up in
Speaker 1: his luxurious castle. Is that where the guide is the
Speaker 1: higher self?
Speaker 3: There? Soetive?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has already established his position of stability, and
Speaker 1: now he craves adventure. One wand is securely anchored to
Speaker 1: the castle walls, showing his efforts to build his fortune,
Speaker 1: while the other wand is held above his head. In
Speaker 1: his other hand, he holds a globe as if to say,
Speaker 1: the world is in his hands. Where will he go next?
Speaker 1: The two of wand signals an opportunity to plan for
Speaker 1: the next exciting phase in an already rich and full life.
Speaker 1: The spiritual message says, weigh your options before making a
Speaker 1: big decision and heed intuitive guidance in your decision making process.
Speaker 1: You're making plans and taking your goals to the next
Speaker 1: level and phase of life, which is exciting. Your life
Speaker 1: continues to be enriched when you follow a spiritual path
Speaker 1: and explore new directions. The upright key meetings are choice
Speaker 1: and future plans. Oh, and it's also the two. So
Speaker 1: it's the two of ones.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: The numerology of two means choice and partnership.
Speaker 3: M So is that not spot on from that conversation
Speaker 3: we had and everything leading up to this very episode?
Speaker 1: Dude in hish, what hand does he holding the globe?
Speaker 1: And the right all in his right hand is the
Speaker 1: hand that he is holding the globe as if to say,
Speaker 1: the world is in his hands, where will he go next?
Speaker 1: The right often associated with the right brain, which is
Speaker 1: often associated with the logic no not no, no, that's
Speaker 1: just logic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my bad, the yeah on you, but it's it's
Speaker 3: uh yeah, the opposite of logic, the imaginative, the wondrous,
Speaker 3: the wondrous one, right, And so, dude, that was the
Speaker 3: perfect card.
Speaker 1: I love it absolutely.
Speaker 3: That one actually popped out in kind of a strange
Speaker 3: way because it was like, you know, you're shuffling, you're shuffling,
Speaker 3: you get to the last, like the last little chunk
Speaker 3: of cards that you're gonna throw, and all the cards
Speaker 3: fell out, but that one like stuck in my hand,
Speaker 3: and so I was like, oh, okay, well, and I
Speaker 3: almost like second guessed it. I was like, Okay, that's
Speaker 3: the one. It's so perfect, dude. I don't Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think you're right. I don't think there's another card that
Speaker 3: would have lined up with that, dude. And I think
Speaker 3: this this episode was It was so fun. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be honest with you, and I'm not even just trying
Speaker 3: to pat you or myself on the back. I feel
Speaker 3: like that was just I I thoroughly enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great episode, especially stepping into our
Speaker 1: mystic roles. And I know that that I know that
Speaker 1: that may be a self appointed term, and maybe it is,
Speaker 1: maybe it isn't. Some people would say that we're into
Speaker 1: the craft, we're wizards, we're sages, we're witches, or we're
Speaker 1: practices of the underworld and the dark realms. There are
Speaker 1: minions of the dark Lord, right Like, everybody wants to
Speaker 1: apply their own definition to what we are, and so
Speaker 1: we say, nay, we will give ourselves our own definition
Speaker 1: as to what we aim to be and what we
Speaker 1: aim to embody what we are already embodying, I believe. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is the menimistics, baby, and.
Speaker 3: We're sticking to me fair to be fair, dude, I
Speaker 3: think everything is self appointed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you think you're not worthy, well you're
Speaker 3: just telling you you're affirming that and becoming that label
Speaker 3: as someone that is not worthy, and so everything is
Speaker 3: self appointed anyway.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, it's uh, yeah, it's it's great whenever you
Speaker 1: actually step into being instead of wishing that you were,
Speaker 1: that's it. Yes, you know, that's kind of the idea
Speaker 1: that we're trying to embrace over here. So yeah, Sean,
Speaker 1: any any final words before we get into the meditation
Speaker 1: good sir.
Speaker 3: I'm just excited for this next level or or whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call this, this fork in the road
Speaker 3: that we've come to and we've we've chosen you know,
Speaker 3: where we're, where we're going, and where we're heading, and
Speaker 3: you know, I just I'm just looking forward to the
Speaker 3: journey man, you know, just continuing this thing.
Speaker 1: Life's a garden. You gotta dig it, you know, That's it.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of weird, actually, when not weird, like weird
Speaker 3: in a good way. You know, when you said menimistics,
Speaker 3: it's like, it's almost like, and this is where my
Speaker 3: mind went because I'm a little weirdo that this has
Speaker 3: always existed. We kind of just made it jump to
Speaker 3: the universe in which it has.
Speaker 1: It's not even that you have to imagine it. It's
Speaker 1: that you should just know it, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna go. And so, yeah, this was
Speaker 1: a freaking awesome show, dude, very insightful, I thought. And
Speaker 1: I just want to say, if you, as the spirit guide,
Speaker 1: came here and you taught yourself anything, it's that you
Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know, but I'll just get weird,
Speaker 1: stay weird.
Speaker 3: I feel like that was a fucking That was a
Speaker 3: motherfucker of an episode, you know.
Speaker 1: It felt like it. Yeah, I tried to bring as
Speaker 1: much energy as I could to that bad boy because
Speaker 1: it excited me so much. Learning and listening to that
Speaker 1: and doing even deeper research and deeper coneplation, trying to
Speaker 1: tie it all together and just fully embracing what we are,
Speaker 1: who we are, where we're like, what we're trying to be,
Speaker 1: you know, in that sense, And yeah, I love that shit.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, there was so much in there that I
Speaker 3: was just trying to follow along and make sure, like
Speaker 3: just to pick one thing that out of what you
Speaker 3: said and remember it so I can bring that up later,
Speaker 3: because there was so much of you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: what he was saying in that, but it was it's
Speaker 3: just empowering.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: I feel like when I was listening to it, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this is what we've been
Speaker 3: looking for. Yeah, you know, and I'm not even just
Speaker 3: saying that, you know, like I know that we when
Speaker 3: we came across like neoplatonism, not to say that that's
Speaker 3: not also kind of what's what's happening if you were
Speaker 3: to visualize that, you know, if we're all one and
Speaker 3: everything kind of expoom exploded into the universe, you know,
Speaker 3: like ultimately I feel like that's what it is. But dude,
Speaker 3: that it's just I don't know, I this is it, dude.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, you're creating, you're creating your your existence,
Speaker 3: your reality, your everything you choose to see and choose
Speaker 3: not to see, and how you feel about it, and
Speaker 3: you know, and that's what makes you move a certain
Speaker 3: way and everything just fucking snowballs and become like it's
Speaker 3: almost every little thing is so not noticeable, but those
Speaker 3: add up and it becomes what you are and how
Speaker 3: you are relating to everything else. And you know, it's
Speaker 3: hard to explain, dude, I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: No, I know, it's it's hard to put it into words.
Speaker 1: And this was something that I had a hard time
Speaker 1: even getting together because I was like, I know it,
Speaker 1: but how do I say it?
Speaker 3: You know, and if you want to say it in
Speaker 3: a way that people understand, because ultimately that's the you know,
Speaker 3: but people are going to have to put in the work.
Speaker 3: They're going to have to actually contemplate and really, you know,
Speaker 3: because I have a feeling that probably are people that
Speaker 3: listen because they enjoy it and it's you know, it's fun,
Speaker 3: but they're not taking that time after to contemplate and
Speaker 3: to meditate and too, because that's where that's where it
Speaker 3: happens to you. I don't I don't lay in bed
Speaker 3: like a normal person anymore. No, my life is different.
Speaker 3: You know, that's some real ship like this, that's a
Speaker 3: different world. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going forward with every single episode with
Speaker 1: this as the foundational like truth a lens, yes, and
Speaker 1: that's how this evolves.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm that's where we go. I'm with you on that, dude,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: A fuck? What a fucking banger, dude. I can't believe.
Speaker 3: We I it only took us two years, you know
Speaker 3: of kind of just you know, stumbling along, and you know,
Speaker 3: in a good way because we're we're trying to look
Speaker 3: at everything. But like now it initiated.
Speaker 1: You know when when you.
Speaker 3: Know, everything works depending on how you're looking at it
Speaker 3: and what you believe. You know, like those people that
Speaker 3: have near death experiences or or I'm sorry, there was
Speaker 3: a there was a video that I watched and it
Speaker 3: was like, a where's that? I can't think of the
Speaker 3: place that you go when you're about to die? What's
Speaker 3: that you go to? A It's a hospital for people
Speaker 3: that are basically their hospice, right. I don't know why
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of that, but this this nurse was
Speaker 3: saying that this person or a few people that she's
Speaker 3: experienced were like, oh, my feet are getting hot, you know,
Speaker 3: and then you can think of like what where are
Speaker 3: they going when when you know what I mean, they're
Speaker 3: experiencing like a hot place. It's like their mind and
Speaker 3: their beliefs, like you believed in it so hard and
Speaker 3: also believed that you weren't worthy still of.
Speaker 1: Not going there. Yeah, you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, And that dictates the experience you have leaving this
Speaker 3: physical body.
Speaker 1: Yes, interesting, and that's you know, that's why I was.
Speaker 1: I tried to tie it all in together there at
Speaker 1: the end with you know, the near death experiences and
Speaker 1: the d MT and the dreams and all these things
Speaker 1: that everybody experiences just slightly different from one another, yet
Speaker 1: none of it is reality. What is your real?
Speaker 3: Quick? Just because I was curious, because I think you
Speaker 3: did mention like the void, or at least that guy's
Speaker 3: writings mentioned the void? What just through this lens? What
Speaker 3: was that void? Well? How do you how are you
Speaker 3: looking at it now? If you could put that into words?
Speaker 3: As far as just because I'm curious.
Speaker 1: The void and this is my understanding of the void
Speaker 1: is constantly evolving. But through this lens, I believe as
Speaker 1: it said that the void is you.
Speaker 3: Is that what it said? I mean, it's you.
Speaker 1: It's the place where nothing exists and limitless potential is
Speaker 1: so nothing has been created yet from that void, right, right,
Speaker 1: So it's you essentially going into the void and like
Speaker 1: Minecraft building in there, and that is where everything is
Speaker 1: created from, is from the void.
Speaker 3: So if you look at it in that sense, it
Speaker 3: was definitely the major ego death. Let's remove everything, and
Speaker 3: now you can add to that, you know as you
Speaker 3: go along. It's kind of the reverse of removing everything
Speaker 3: that is not you. This was okay, let me show
Speaker 3: you everything, everything that's not you, and that's nothing at all,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like literally, like how I looked at everything ceased to exist,
Speaker 1: and now I was able to be in that voided
Speaker 1: space where it was completely devoid of everything that I
Speaker 1: had ever known except a remnant of me, right, and
Speaker 1: that remnant of me had to build its way out
Speaker 1: to this life that I experience now.
Speaker 3: And I'm just trying to think about this, like the
Speaker 3: true self that was you in that moment, just observing
Speaker 3: because you were there, obviously you were there, you were experiencing,
Speaker 3: and so what what is it that you were most
Speaker 3: concerned with in that moment when everything was gone, what
Speaker 3: was the because I think that was your true self
Speaker 3: in that in that you know what I mean, in
Speaker 3: that moment.
Speaker 1: What were you? What I was most concerned with was
Speaker 1: that I had destroyed everything, Like I was concerned that
Speaker 1: it was my fault that everything ceased to exist, and
Speaker 1: that I was powerless in that moment to ever even
Speaker 1: come up with the idea to even think to bring
Speaker 1: it back. And so whenever I was able to come
Speaker 1: out of that void, Now, every single day that went on,
Speaker 1: it was nothing but contemplation. You know that I went
Speaker 1: to fucking deep depression. Yeah, every single moment was trying
Speaker 1: to build up a fucking ladder up out of that void, right,
Speaker 1: And so I was able to see at the very
Speaker 1: pit of existence, which where nothing existed, which I actually
Speaker 1: really looking back, I look back on it fondly now,
Speaker 1: Like I don't look back on it I'm fucking sad
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Like I look back on it.
Speaker 1: I mean I look back and I almost have a
Speaker 1: little empathy for myself from who I was then.
Speaker 3: Okay, but now I'm.
Speaker 1: Thankful for the experience because it was that experience alone.
Speaker 1: That helped me understand that this fucking place can blink
Speaker 1: out of existence, and even when it does, I don't right.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's fascinating. Okay, that's very interesting, man, cause I
Speaker 3: try to imagine what that would even be like, because
Speaker 3: it's it's just the scariest thing I can imagine, you know,
Speaker 3: in the way that you describe it, and like you
Speaker 3: had your emotion going into like just telling the story,
Speaker 3: and I'm like putting myself there and I'm trying to
Speaker 3: imagine like nothingness, you know, you know when you close
Speaker 3: your eyes and you can't see even that night when
Speaker 3: you close your eyes. At least for me, it's not
Speaker 3: completely pitch black. It seems like there's you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know, dude, in some sense of not just complete
Speaker 3: blackness in the fucking uh.
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Whenever I was in fifth
Speaker 1: or sixth grade, I don't know. I was in middle school.
Speaker 1: Middle school was only fifth and sixth grade for me.
Speaker 1: But in middle school there was this science class and
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the fuck his name was, but
Speaker 1: mister Morgan. Holy shit, where did I pull that out from? Okay,
Speaker 1: so mister Morgan, and he almost looked like a taller
Speaker 1: version of doctor Phil just reminded me of him. Okay,
Speaker 1: but he had a fucking planetarium literally inside of his classroom.
Speaker 1: You walk through a door. He had a whole planetarium.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, crazy for like such a little po dunk
Speaker 1: middle school in Pennsylvania, you know. But I remember going
Speaker 1: in there and there's no windows, like you're in a room.
Speaker 1: It's inside of another room. So it's completely dark. It's
Speaker 1: completely silent. I mean, if you stayed in there long enough,
Speaker 1: you'd go crazy.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: And and then he would, you know, turn on the
Speaker 1: projector and then show the stars and all the constellations
Speaker 1: and all that shit. But there was he would let
Speaker 1: us sit in that darkness for like a minute. Oh
Speaker 1: just say just don't say anything, just listen, And we
Speaker 1: would have to sit there not fucking say anything. We
Speaker 1: would just listen for a whole minute, which is an eternity.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for a little kid in that moment, dude, eternity,
Speaker 1: you know. And dude, that's the closest thing that I
Speaker 1: can even compare to what the void was. It was
Speaker 1: completely devoid of sound, it was completely devoid of light,
Speaker 1: it was completely devoid of life. You couldn't, dude, in
Speaker 1: that fucking planetarium. You couldn't see your hand if you
Speaker 1: were That's how dark it was, right, That's what it
Speaker 1: felt like in the void. But in that moment I
Speaker 1: was I was really just like fucking sad, you know,
Speaker 1: in that fucking in that void.
Speaker 3: So when you came out of it, you were you
Speaker 3: were sad still, right, because it took you a minute
Speaker 3: to come out of that completely to where you were
Speaker 3: able to like, all right, it's already been transmuted. I'm
Speaker 3: already like, I'm glad now that I had that experience, Like,
Speaker 3: but before that, you were still very sad, Like what
Speaker 3: was that?
Speaker 1: What do you think that was?
Speaker 3: You know, because you made it, you made it to
Speaker 3: the other side, you can see things, you're alive, you're back.
Speaker 3: What is it that was making you still feel like
Speaker 3: remorse or.
Speaker 1: Just fucking it weighed on me, dude. It just it's
Speaker 1: like because that is something that it's possible, or that
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I just witnessed. But all right,
Speaker 1: I'll give you another example. Whenever. So I've had dreams
Speaker 1: of like my mom dying, dude, and I'm like boohoo,
Speaker 1: crying in the dream and I waked hello soaked and
Speaker 1: I'm running my toes and like, it is the worst
Speaker 1: thing that I ever just saw was my mom dying.
Speaker 1: And it's you can't just shake that off, you know,
Speaker 1: like you can be like, oh my god, what a
Speaker 1: dream and then just be like, go on the rest
Speaker 1: of your day. No, you want to call your mom,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was like that.
Speaker 3: So you were just living in that just dread and sadness,
Speaker 3: because that is something that you've experienced now.
Speaker 1: And immediately after. But here's the here's the more fucked
Speaker 1: up part is that it wasn't just my mom that died,
Speaker 1: you know it was, but it was also my kids.
Speaker 1: It was you, it was Jacob, it was my job,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was my call, it
Speaker 1: was my apartment, it was every every person that I dated,
Speaker 1: every person that I ever met, all my teachers, and
Speaker 1: every experience that I ever had. Everything was everything.
Speaker 3: Wow. So that's that's intense. Man. I hope that I
Speaker 3: was I don't know, empathetic and ship like that during
Speaker 3: that time for you, because I I obviously you know
Speaker 3: how serious that fucking was and how hard and how
Speaker 3: emotional it made you, and how negatively at least in
Speaker 3: that month, in that time when you were depressed, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like how hard that was for you.
Speaker 3: But everyone else doesn't fully you know, people around you
Speaker 3: were just like, oh, yeah, you had a bad trip,
Speaker 3: you know, like you no big deal, but like you
Speaker 3: were going through it, you know, And so I don't
Speaker 3: even know, like hopefully I was, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know you were, and you know Nick was, and even
Speaker 1: Jacob was. Okay, So everybody was like really cool, Matt
Speaker 1: Rife friend were yeah, nuf said Staph cool. Everybody was
Speaker 1: cool about it because it's it's it's there's a polarization
Speaker 1: to it is that it can be the most awesome
Speaker 1: thing that you ever experience in your life, and nothing
Speaker 1: can ever, ever, ever ever come close.
Speaker 3: Worst thing and nothing, every.
Speaker 1: Worst thing could ever happen to you times a thousand
Speaker 1: times infinity times infinity again a quarter of that.
Speaker 3: Fuck, dude, that's some ship man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's extreme. There, I mean, there is no middle ground,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it is extreme or
Speaker 1: the other you are rolling the dice brother, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that all happened in your mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like it didn't happen anywhere else. You
Speaker 3: were still there physically. Everybody else was still watching you
Speaker 3: have a trip. They you know, they didn't know what
Speaker 3: kind of trip you were having.
Speaker 1: They were just vi you know, I got video evidence.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're still physically here.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But in your mind everything was gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that's why I have a different understanding
Speaker 1: of the world. You know what I'm say, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to put myself on any kind
Speaker 1: of pedestal whenever I say that.
Speaker 3: It's this is just us.
Speaker 1: You know, like I look at the world very differently
Speaker 1: because I realized that in a moment, it could blink
Speaker 1: out like that. Again, that horrifies me. Yeah, but and
Speaker 1: but it's inevitable. That's the thing. It's inevitable that it
Speaker 1: blinks out. Yeah, you know. And it's not just like
Speaker 1: a gradual like oh, there goes my body, or there's
Speaker 1: Aunt Susan, or can't believe you know, Grandpa's waited on me.
Speaker 3: No, it's like lights out.
Speaker 1: Your your remembering, your memory of everybody is starting to
Speaker 1: fade away.
Speaker 3: Ah. So not only were they gone, but you were
Speaker 3: starting to not even remember that they existed in the
Speaker 3: first place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I almost I almost got to a point.
Speaker 1: And this was in the final seconds of getting ready
Speaker 1: to come out of the void and wake up and everything.
Speaker 1: I got to a point to where I was almost.
Speaker 3: Like giving into the experience.
Speaker 1: I was almost accepting that this is how it was now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that was fucked up.
Speaker 3: Well, even then you still had to let go, like
Speaker 3: you had to like, well, I guess this is you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, this is what it is now,
Speaker 3: and I have to just kind of be here for
Speaker 3: this too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's almost like you know, people you ever hear
Speaker 1: like stories or you see movies of like somebody who
Speaker 1: kills somebody, Yeah, right, Like you don't go back from that.
Speaker 1: You're now somebody who has killed somebody, right, you know,
Speaker 1: like you're looking at the world through the lens of
Speaker 1: a murderer, right right, That doesn't you can't just wake up,
Speaker 1: there's no option, right, Yeah, And so not even compared
Speaker 1: to that, but like you are now streams, Yeah.
Speaker 3: You are now somebody that looks at things from being
Speaker 3: in the void and made it back.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it from everything that I live right now.
Speaker 3: Is just extra, just bony. You're in the bonus round,
Speaker 3: baby girl.
Speaker 1: I'm in the bonus round.
Speaker 3: All right. Well that's it. Let's make the most of it.
Speaker 1: Ben, you know, okay, all right? The one we are
Speaker 1: going to be getting into this meditation for you to
Speaker 1: remember that is the key piece. The key is you.
Speaker 1: The whole is also you. That's the crazy thing about
Speaker 1: this whole thing is that it's all within you. You
Speaker 1: don't need to seek anywhere else. It's just all within.
Speaker 1: This is what both was talking about with the anc
Speaker 1: this is what Jesus was talking about, you know, with
Speaker 1: the I'm not going to go christ consciousness, but you
Speaker 1: get what I'm trying to say. Um, let's just try
Speaker 1: and find out. Maybe we'll go ten minutes, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: go fifteen minutes. We'll see where it goes. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna start it here. Oh by the way, this is
Speaker 1: from Deep Calm Melodies from and it's called Mystical Serenity,
Speaker 1: Spiritual Healing Man Meditation, Background Relaxing ambiyonce and it does
Speaker 1: sound like a nice am Beyonce. So we're gonna get there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna started here in three two one, let go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1: A good meditation. Unfortunately, YouTube has commercial interruption during some
Speaker 1: of the meditations, and I will never understand.
Speaker 3: That we have to listen to commercials.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the very reason why we don't post on
Speaker 1: YouTube or or any of the podcasts, because we don't
Speaker 1: want them to be commercially interrupted. And even we have
Speaker 1: to experience that.
Speaker 3: Like one of them was like boom, like whatever music
Speaker 3: they were playing. I was like, oh my god, like
Speaker 3: my whole inner world was just like what's going on?
Speaker 1: Like lightning? Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, no, it was. It
Speaker 1: was fascinating.
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting. Not to cut you off. I
Speaker 3: hope you can remember what you were about to say,
Speaker 3: but I think it's very fascinating. You know, the things
Speaker 3: that I used to look forward to when it came
Speaker 3: to starting a meditation, you know, like I used to,
Speaker 3: And it's still cool if it happens.
Speaker 1: I'm always down for.
Speaker 3: Some visual or some something cool like that, you know,
Speaker 3: But nowadays, dude, I don't even I don't expect anything
Speaker 3: like that. I'm not even I'm almost not even rooting
Speaker 3: for it now. Now nowadays, I'm really just trying to
Speaker 3: garner just information or just the thoughts that I'm having
Speaker 3: and then I expound on that thought or depending on
Speaker 3: which thought I picked to examine or really try to contemplate.
Speaker 3: But that's like, that's where I'm going now. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm really trying to get to the bottom of just
Speaker 3: myself really, you know, I'm really trying to get to
Speaker 3: that true essence or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 3: you know, which is so I don't know. I think
Speaker 3: it's weird, you know, because you are you right, and
Speaker 3: so you would think you would just know who who
Speaker 3: that is, right, you know, you're with yourself all the time.
Speaker 3: But there's just so much, you know, like the guy
Speaker 3: was saying, as far as the noise and the story
Speaker 3: and the ego and the distraction and all just everything
Speaker 3: that's always kind of buzzing all at once that you
Speaker 3: don't even if you sit there and someone's like who
Speaker 3: are you, You're like, well, you know, I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I'm married to my wife, I got three kids, I
Speaker 3: got you start saying things that you've done, you know,
Speaker 3: like but like who are you? You know, what is
Speaker 3: it about you that you want me to know or
Speaker 3: understand about you? What do you bring into the table?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I don't know. Yeah, just
Speaker 3: very fascinating when you start to really think about that stuff.
Speaker 3: And then, like we said before, as far as getting
Speaker 3: to that shadow and really trying to merge the two.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, whenever I go into a meditation, now
Speaker 3: that's where I'm going. I'm really trying to see where
Speaker 3: the thoughts go. Sometimes I'll even go into the future
Speaker 3: of like this conversation that we're having right now, like, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe I can bring this up because that was kind
Speaker 3: of interesting, you know, and like and I'm like, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: what am I doing? Like I'm already in meditation going
Speaker 3: to the future, which is like the opposite of what
Speaker 3: you're trying to do, right, you know, And so I
Speaker 3: don't know, that's kind of what I was contemplating.
Speaker 1: You know. Well that's interesting, dude. Yeah, it's it's good
Speaker 1: not to expect anything. That's that's the beauty of meditation
Speaker 1: is to release all expectation, release all connection to any
Speaker 1: specific thought or emotion, and just swim in the pool
Speaker 1: of you and that's it. And you know what's crazy
Speaker 1: is is that the deep, you know, and everybody has
Speaker 1: their different levels of deep, and I it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, how do we know that the same color
Speaker 1: red that I'm looking at is the same that color
Speaker 1: red that you're looking at, and we're just calling it
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like, how do we compare these things,
Speaker 1: you know, as to what our experiences are. But I
Speaker 1: was thinking, you know, like the uh, like the deepest
Speaker 1: level that I got in that meditation, which I love,
Speaker 1: it feels like so effort effortless, you know, Like at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the meditation, I was, you know, still
Speaker 1: in my thoughts and and and that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, oh man, tomorrow I got to
Speaker 1: shoot two shows and I got I got the kids,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm it's gonna be a busy day tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We did a little time traveling too, huh yeah.
Speaker 1: And and then I was like, you know what, let
Speaker 1: me get out of that headspace, like it's not that
Speaker 1: I have to, it's that I get to. And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to just become you know, more appreciative and looking
Speaker 1: at life in that way. And whenever I got super deep,
Speaker 1: I was able to then bounce back to that thought
Speaker 1: of like, let's see if now that I'm super deep
Speaker 1: in this meditation, that I'm able to look at that
Speaker 1: through a different lens now that I'm in this deep lens,
Speaker 1: you know, and dude, it seemed like, oh, that's all
Speaker 1: I gotta do, you know, Like like it was so
Speaker 1: easy that I just all I gotta do is just
Speaker 1: experience tomorrow, that's all. And it was just it's and
Speaker 1: what I also like about being so super deep in meditation,
Speaker 1: at least in that moment, was that I was like,
Speaker 1: it just seems so easy to be there. And it
Speaker 1: also seemed like like I'm trying to put it into words,
Speaker 1: like that place doesn't seem unfamiliar, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's like I got to a point where I
Speaker 1: was like I was trying to like tell myself, like
Speaker 1: like I love you, you know what I mean in
Speaker 1: that moment, and I just said I love you and
Speaker 1: you know I care about you, and you know I'm
Speaker 1: always here for you and that kind of thing, right,
Speaker 1: And even in that moment, it was like it felt
Speaker 1: weird saying it, because it's not that I'm coming necessarily
Speaker 1: from a completely polar opposite advantage from that point is
Speaker 1: that it still feels like you, but it just feels
Speaker 1: And so that's how it's like things like that that
Speaker 1: I personally, you know, experienced to where I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we are. You know that it's not something
Speaker 1: that is that is hidden and forbidden and you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to talk about it, and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like it's something that you're always with. It's just subtle,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that it's always far away at all.
Speaker 1: And so that's you know, just looking at it from
Speaker 1: that advantage. But then I started to think, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought it was silly about how like in religion
Speaker 1: they'll talk about God as if it's a hymn, and
Speaker 1: if you look back at it, it was all created,
Speaker 1: like all the books were at least compiled within you know,
Speaker 1: Christianity and whatnot, all by men. So of course it's
Speaker 1: going to be they're referring to God as a hymn,
Speaker 1: and they'll come up with six ways to Sunday as
Speaker 1: to how that God is absolutely a he, right, And
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, man, I feel bad for all
Speaker 1: the women that are talking to their higher selves calling
Speaker 1: it a hymn, you know what I'm saying. Like, I
Speaker 1: was just thinking, like, you think God is a hymn?
Speaker 1: It's not it's like inside of you it's a her, right,
Speaker 1: or at least it's androgynists, right, But you wouldn't say
Speaker 1: all my higher self as a man. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: you would, maybe you identify is that whatever. I'm not judging.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, like, you know, it's like, how
Speaker 1: crazy is it? And then even like within the Bible too,
Speaker 1: not the judge, but they'll say that, like the man
Speaker 1: is supposed to be like the closest connection to God
Speaker 1: in the household, right, and that the way that the
Speaker 1: man is supposed to worship God is too the way
Speaker 1: that the woman is supposed to worship her husband. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I'm like, dude, there's no you in there buying it,
Speaker 1: you know, buy it.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Yeah, dude, I know, I know. But you
Speaker 3: know what, like you said, when I'm here to judge,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, if that's how you want to do,
Speaker 3: that's fine, you know, I mean, yeah, sure, But the
Speaker 3: real quick there was another thing I was thinking about
Speaker 3: as far as and I know that it's I think
Speaker 3: we've said it before, you know, as far as like
Speaker 3: changing instead of trying to change because I think we
Speaker 3: said it before. Man, like we're trying to help everyone
Speaker 3: like awaken, and like it seems like this big thing
Speaker 3: that's like so impossible, you know. But it's like you
Speaker 3: don't change everybody, you change yourself, you know. It's like
Speaker 3: that whole that whole thing, Like you can't change the
Speaker 3: people around you, but you can change the people around
Speaker 3: you to type of mentality. It's like you're just you're
Speaker 3: just changing instead of like changing the people, but like
Speaker 3: you're changing how you experience everything around you. And I
Speaker 3: think that I don't know for me, that that is
Speaker 3: just so huge, man, And I want people to really
Speaker 3: really try to understand that, you know, not that it's
Speaker 3: that hard to understand. I'm not saying that, but I'm
Speaker 3: just saying, like that's I think that that's huge.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you change there, You change your inner world
Speaker 1: to change your outer world. That like, if you got
Speaker 1: a bunch of shadow work that needs worked on, good
Speaker 1: luck changing on the outside.
Speaker 3: For the Like, there's no amount of change on the
Speaker 3: outside that you can.
Speaker 1: Do, right because it's the outside world is only going
Speaker 1: to manifest as a result of what's coming from your
Speaker 1: own inner life, right, you know. And so if you're
Speaker 1: having a terrible day and every single thing, and that
Speaker 1: is just happening to you all the time. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's got to be a reflection of what's going on
Speaker 1: in there in the world. And I don't mean to
Speaker 1: even say that as a judgment at all. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: think about it, what if that is the case?
Speaker 3: You know, like not everybody's out there having a bad
Speaker 3: day every day, No everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, and well, and they say that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, good things happen to bad people, and I
Speaker 1: believe that. I mean, good things happen to bad people,
Speaker 1: and bad things happen to good people of course, right,
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, man, well that's just not fair. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the one in charge of that,
Speaker 1: even unconsciously, subconsciously, right, you know, if you're the one
Speaker 1: in charge of that, it's like, I mean, that's I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to point any fingers as to who's fault
Speaker 1: it is, but to say that you have no hand
Speaker 1: in it is almost blast price at that point, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting about this too is that,
Speaker 3: you know, knowing us, we like to try to understand,
Speaker 3: you know, what's on the other side. You know, like
Speaker 3: we covered the near death exp speriences and you know,
Speaker 3: obviously none of us are going to know what that
Speaker 3: is until that time comes, you know. But this, all
Speaker 3: of this information, I feel like mostly is for the
Speaker 3: time right now, you know, not not well do this
Speaker 3: and so that way, when that time comes, you're in
Speaker 3: a better place. It's like, put yourself in a better
Speaker 3: place here now. Yeah, it's practical, it's it's right here.
Speaker 3: It's well, it's inside, you.
Speaker 1: Know, dude. And that that's why it's so important to
Speaker 1: meditate so often, dude, because that that that version of
Speaker 1: you that is in touch with your highest self you
Speaker 1: want to call it your highest self or your higher
Speaker 1: self or your inner guardian or the god within or
Speaker 1: whatever like that is easily access through meditation easily every time.
Speaker 1: There's never not a time. It's always accessible. Now, it
Speaker 1: might take somebody ten minutes, maybe it takes somebody fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: maybe it takes somebody in everybody's different. But you know,
Speaker 1: we've been meditating pretty regularly at least twice a week
Speaker 1: for the last two years. And that's you know, some
Speaker 1: would look at that as like it's peanuts, but compared
Speaker 1: to the majority, I think we're doing pretty damn good.
Speaker 3: Well that's the least amount, you know. I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: we're doing meditation in our own time here and there,
Speaker 3: you know. Me. For me, mostly it's like right before bed,
Speaker 3: like that's the sweet spot, dude. That's when I'm I'm
Speaker 3: one foot in that other world, you know, and it's
Speaker 3: just like but I'm still aware, and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: what's going on? Who am I in between?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so yeah, it's man, there was something else
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring it up to. Oh yeah, yeah. So,
Speaker 1: as many of you know, I will be moving out
Speaker 1: to Arizona here in a couple of weeks, just for
Speaker 1: a wee little while to be able to save up
Speaker 1: to buy a house because God forbidden anything you know,
Speaker 1: cheap nowadays. Yeah, and you know, I mean it's dific
Speaker 1: off everybody. I'm not trying to say that. It's just
Speaker 1: hard on me by any means. It just sucks. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to be going out there and whenever I
Speaker 1: come back, I plan on buying a house. And I
Speaker 1: was trying to like think about what my house is
Speaker 1: going to look like? What do I want it to
Speaker 1: look like? I'm trying to envision it because if you remember,
Speaker 1: whenever I moved from Louisiana to Texas, I didn't know
Speaker 1: exactly where I was going to be staying. Yet I
Speaker 1: had a place that I was going to be staying
Speaker 1: temporarily if I needed it, but I didn't want to
Speaker 1: have to do that. And so I was trying to
Speaker 1: think and just put myself in the position of in
Speaker 1: imagining what my apartment was going to look like. I
Speaker 1: knew it was going to be an apartment, but I
Speaker 1: had no idea what it was going to look like.
Speaker 1: I had never been to any apartment in Texas, and
Speaker 1: apartments are different everywhere you go, right, So I was
Speaker 1: just trying to envision it. And I was able to
Speaker 1: almost exactly describe in that meditation before I ever even
Speaker 1: moved of the Texas I was almost able to exactly
Speaker 1: describe what my apartment was like, what it is like
Speaker 1: to a tee almost like so close. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the window placement, the fireplace, I mean, the layout of
Speaker 1: the living room that's exactly like. That's where I was was.
Speaker 1: I was envisioning what the living room was going to
Speaker 1: look like, right, Yeah, And and so I tried to
Speaker 1: do that, you know, as for like my house whenever
Speaker 1: I moved back to Texas, and so I was trying
Speaker 1: to imagine, like what do I really want? And because
Speaker 1: I've been trying to bounce back and forth between ideas about,
Speaker 1: you know, do I want to live in a neighborhood
Speaker 1: or do I want a cabin. I've always wanted a cabin,
Speaker 1: but then I started looking into those those barn dominiums,
Speaker 1: which are sick and they're like pretty cheap to build
Speaker 1: in comparison. I was like trying to imagine what it
Speaker 1: what it would look like, and dude, I I'm back
Speaker 1: on the cabin chain. Baby.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you know, you don't need to
Speaker 3: be like deep in the woods and shit where like
Speaker 3: you're so secluded. I mean, unless you want to do that,
Speaker 3: that's that's fine too.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to it.
Speaker 3: I imagine, you know, having some land would be really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah and out yeah. And I was trying to
Speaker 1: just think about even like the shape of the cabin,
Speaker 1: and like, dude, I love those a frame cabins. They're
Speaker 1: so sick. If you ever seen those, it's like so mystical,
Speaker 1: and like that's just what I want.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: And I don't need nothing crazy. I mean, I got
Speaker 1: two kids, so I need three bedrooms. But they don't
Speaker 1: need to be huge or anything like that. Like hm,
Speaker 1: I just want some I want a place of peace.
Speaker 1: And whenever I think about a place of peace, I
Speaker 1: think about a cabin in the woods. For some reason,
Speaker 1: it just goes there.
Speaker 3: Well, that's your place of peace, man, So you might
Speaker 3: as well just imagine that and keep your mind on
Speaker 3: it and think about it all the time and start
Speaker 3: looking at things like that. And you know, I know that,
Speaker 3: you know, you think of manifestation and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I mean. But if
Speaker 3: you just focus that time and energy and attention on
Speaker 3: that one thing, dude, for some reason, you know, it
Speaker 3: just works.
Speaker 1: I'm just tuning into that. I'm just tuning into that,
Speaker 1: you know, life, that life, lifetime or something, you know. Ye. So,
Speaker 1: and I was even thinking about like the the moss
Speaker 1: growing up the sides of the roof and everything, and of.
Speaker 3: Course has some moss growing somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course there's like a big oak tree
Speaker 1: with a tire swing or something like that.
Speaker 3: No one knows who put it there. It's just been there,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Fay folk put it there, who knows at
Speaker 1: this point towards really yeah, so anyway, all right, well
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap this bad boy up. This was a
Speaker 1: fun one, dude, and hopefully we were able to set
Speaker 1: the tone for the rest of the episodes that are
Speaker 1: going to be moving forward and just looking at you know, reality,
Speaker 1: both outer and inner in this in this sense. And
Speaker 1: so hopefully you guys enjoyed that, befull you got a
Speaker 1: little something from it, and uh, we love you and
Speaker 1: we'll see you on the flip side. Bye, guys.