Speaker 1: You're watching Chewing the Cud.
Speaker 2: We've missed Kinsman and Mike Benu Room don't care what
Speaker 2: you're saying. I think I look bloody sexy. H Welcome
Speaker 2: to Cheering the Cud this week. I'm joined by the
Speaker 2: man who always has an egg. Well, it's more of
Speaker 2: a butt it's missed.
Speaker 1: Hi. How are you? I'm fine? Thank you. We don't
Speaker 1: talk about that. That's why I stopped saying butt plug.
Speaker 1: What have you got for us this weekness?
Speaker 3: Well, this week I'm talking about a mighty Morphing Power
Speaker 3: Ranger because it's apparently the nineties. And then we have
Speaker 3: an Eastere game to play in our Game of the week.
Speaker 3: And that's before we welcome Jordan Charles to the show
Speaker 3: on Spotlight on screen. Now you can see our social
Speaker 3: media just search for at the Cud TV. And as
Speaker 3: people who have popped up in our comments go along
Speaker 3: the bottom of our screen, it's time for Mike in the.
Speaker 1: Buzz thirty seconds or that was already not makeup? Ale
Speaker 1: over it? What mean? Is cup? No my makeup? How
Speaker 1: do you feel about mini eggs? I quite quite like
Speaker 1: it a mini egg? How many do you have in
Speaker 1: a handful?
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to be on a tiet. I know,
Speaker 3: but how many you actually having a handful? Because I
Speaker 3: could easily flee a couple in a couple in did
Speaker 3: you know serving sizes eight mini eggs? Eight mini eggs?
Speaker 1: Eight mini eggs not a bag?
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. Who's going to portion out eight eggs? People
Speaker 3: are counting calories? But they've been they've been issued with the.
Speaker 2: Warning of mini eggs okay, because basically they call they
Speaker 2: kill children, they're choking hazard. Basically, cabries have been told
Speaker 2: that they have to put water labels on them because
Speaker 2: people are putting them in their children are eating them
Speaker 2: right as children would and choking on them because they're
Speaker 2: going too quickly with them and they're a hard shells.
Speaker 2: So it's isn't that really on the children not knowing
Speaker 2: how to chew? Yeah, but you can't. You can't stop
Speaker 2: that happening. Does everything you stick in your mouth have
Speaker 2: to come with a label?
Speaker 1: Now, well comes with the noise.
Speaker 2: You should try not to say that. So what we're
Speaker 2: basically saying is mini eggs are not for kids, They're
Speaker 2: only for adults.
Speaker 1: Well, that's more for us than that's that's why I'm
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad thing. No, solve the kids.
Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of East Dreggs at home?
Speaker 3: I celebrate a star because I'm one of those weird, beardy,
Speaker 3: weirdy type people. So I've already had my Easter egg Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: nice big. I go for luxury rather than quantity for.
Speaker 1: Quality, right, Okay, Well be thankfully don't live on Orkney.
Speaker 1: Why what's happened in Orkney? Because they've gone for out
Speaker 1: quantity of equality?
Speaker 2: Well, well, the main shop has as they've accidentally ordered
Speaker 2: seven hundred.
Speaker 1: And twenty East eggs. How many seven hundred and twenty?
Speaker 2: It was supposed to order eighty and ordered seven hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty because he kept forgetting it up placed in.
Speaker 3: Order, so he just kept ordering again and again Easter eggs. Well, yell,
Speaker 3: what's he going to do with that?
Speaker 1: Well? What is actually is doing a raffle to win
Speaker 1: one hundred Easter eggs? Training it with one hundred of them.
Speaker 3: He's still got a shed load left though. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: who's going to have one hundred Easter eggs or one?
Speaker 2: But very very happy person, I think, But what is
Speaker 2: actually said? I was reading this news story. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's more saying there's more eggs than are people on
Speaker 2: the island, right, because he's tiny, tiny, How many.
Speaker 1: Eggs do you think each person would have to get through.
Speaker 2: Because they're not just like chuck them at the puffins.
Speaker 2: The Puffins don't like it, don't like I don't like
Speaker 2: puffs renowned for not liking any strengths. In fact, it's
Speaker 2: a well known fact. I forgot.
Speaker 3: How many actual people are on the actual island.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the disappointing part of the new story.
Speaker 2: It averages out one and a half.
Speaker 1: Exactly, like that's a day. Well, I suppose he's got
Speaker 1: to make actual sales. But yeah, but it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: one and half a day. That's easy done.
Speaker 3: Question is is what's what's what's the facilities in terms
Speaker 3: of diabetic hospitals?
Speaker 2: Not great, eating three strikes in one day won't give
Speaker 2: you diabetes. I mean, if you've already got diabetes, it's
Speaker 2: not really great for you. Or if you're pre diabetic,
Speaker 2: is going to push you over. But it's only three strekes,
Speaker 2: it'll be right. They're not the massive ones.
Speaker 1: No they aren't.
Speaker 2: No, they're just yah, they're just eggs. You can pop
Speaker 2: one of them and not even notice. And if you
Speaker 2: can pop things in and not even notice, why not
Speaker 2: share that with us. We're at the coud TV on
Speaker 2: social media and that brings us to our story of
Speaker 2: the week.
Speaker 1: Now, do you like subway sandwiches? Oh? I could? I
Speaker 1: could slip one of those down the gullet.
Speaker 2: Yes you could. You can take twelve inches, keny more
Speaker 2: than I believe it. What's your favorite sub Bay sub?
Speaker 1: Say? Subways? Brother, just sub I quite like a bit
Speaker 1: of tuna. Maoo, you have it toasted? No good? Who
Speaker 1: wants warm fish? Warmfish in mayonnaise?
Speaker 2: Well, the good news is for all subway fans that
Speaker 2: they have launched a special Easter Subway what's in that?
Speaker 1: Cabbage cream? Eggs? Ooh, sweet things and bread? Sweet things
Speaker 1: in bread.
Speaker 2: Now, the thing is Subway bread is renowned for being
Speaker 2: sweet so much in the fact is Ireland.
Speaker 3: It's actually technically called a cake. Oh yes, sugar yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like American bread.
Speaker 1: But they're only to sell five hundred of them across
Speaker 1: the country. I can't imagine that's nice if you're not
Speaker 1: just imagine the taste and going, I wonder what that
Speaker 1: tastes like I.
Speaker 3: Like a sandwich and a cream egg for dessert. Mummon, Yes,
Speaker 3: it's all going in the same place, but they are
Speaker 3: two separate events.
Speaker 2: Okay, but how do you also feel about hot chocolate,
Speaker 2: because that's what that is, because it's a toasted one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't. I don't have a bread stick
Speaker 3: in my hot chocolate. Okay, you've been very negative about
Speaker 3: this idea. I'll have a flake in my hot chocolate. Okay,
Speaker 3: that you can't stir a flake in it's just not
Speaker 3: And that's no longer a mug of is it? That's
Speaker 3: no longer a mug.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite of heart chocolate or mug. One
Speaker 1: of my.
Speaker 3: Favorite things to do with hot chocolate or coffee is
Speaker 3: get a kit cat bite off both ends, shut it
Speaker 3: in gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you're open minded towards this because
Speaker 2: because you can only get five undred of them, there's
Speaker 2: nowhere I was going to get one for the show today, sheepskate.
Speaker 2: I do, however, Well, there's limited availability. I do, however,
Speaker 2: I have a mind of imagination and ingenuity. You are
Speaker 2: a clever Yeah, So I have a toasty maker and
Speaker 2: I have made.
Speaker 1: Have you cut the crust?
Speaker 3: I have cut the crussh you big kids.
Speaker 2: We'll go on then, because you have to cut that
Speaker 2: because everybody knows that the middle bit is possible to break.
Speaker 1: Cheers, okay, mm hmm, that's good, right, mm hmm. I'm
Speaker 1: bout my head for a bit of one. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's a taste sensation, that's m hmm.
Speaker 3: It's definitely a taste sensation. I'm not too sure if
Speaker 3: it's a good one, but it is a sensation. Mm
Speaker 3: hmmm mmm mm hmm. It's not an idiot, but well,
Speaker 3: thanks for that, Mike, love try. I want to move
Speaker 3: on because I don't want to shove any more of
Speaker 3: it in about.
Speaker 1: What plant more? M you don't have to eat any
Speaker 1: more of it, then that's fine. You've tried it, you
Speaker 1: gave it a go. There's a lot of queue involved
Speaker 1: in this.
Speaker 3: There is a lot of Yeah, you have to get
Speaker 3: your mouth around it and then you and enjoy what
Speaker 3: what spurts out of the filling.
Speaker 1: Now, so you're not you're not a fan of that,
Speaker 1: then no, why not?
Speaker 3: Because because because it's it's it's it's it's merging two
Speaker 3: things that I don't feel.
Speaker 1: Chocolate is just delightful.
Speaker 3: I know, but the balance is all wrong. Balance is
Speaker 3: wrong for what it's just it's just too much sweet
Speaker 3: in the bread I like. I like a glass on
Speaker 3: a little bit it's of chocolate in but it's it's
Speaker 3: it's a little bits of chocolate.
Speaker 1: Okay, what are you doing? I play it in my cupboard.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you could also get do the camera once
Speaker 1: just say thank you? Are we eating it now? Are
Speaker 1: we okay? Facing the sweet shop? Right? This is a treat.
Speaker 1: Don't want to pop it in? You've heard that before.
Speaker 1: Have you done something to this?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I haven't done anything to it, trust at all. That
Speaker 1: subwhere we're going just close that I think popped to
Speaker 1: Love again. No, no, no issue.
Speaker 2: Subway of and said I'm only going to do five
Speaker 2: hundred of these. This is a great conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, going to do five under of these. Right,
Speaker 1: they are talking.
Speaker 2: About all those things that they could possibly do. Right,
Speaker 2: So coming soon you may see a mars bar subway
Speaker 2: or a Snickers. You're up for a mars bar, but
Speaker 2: not because that is that not the wrong amount of sweet?
Speaker 1: What is it? Skip? Little Timmy is down and well.
Speaker 2: You couldn't wait three minutes, no idea. Look, Timmy has
Speaker 2: stuck down all paraly.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 1: Now you're doing a pressure fing flipper everything. Everything's by
Speaker 1: the sea. It's fine. I was just saying it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I want to have one.
Speaker 2: Oh right, Okay, I couldn't tell what you were saying.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's all from the buzz this week.
Speaker 1: Well thanks for that, and it's left.
Speaker 3: Me with a rather nice and unusual sensation down the
Speaker 3: back of my throat because.
Speaker 1: It wasn't warm pleasure as always.
Speaker 2: Stick around because coming up next we have missed in
Speaker 2: the celebrity show biz news. You're watching chewing a cud
Speaker 2: with mist and Mike. Now let's get ready for the
Speaker 2: showbiz with the one in the hat. I think I
Speaker 2: look quite pretty actually, anyway, time for the show is news.
Speaker 3: First up, one of my favorite shows is back, The
Speaker 3: Umbrella Academy.
Speaker 1: I like The Umbrella Academy. Yeah, I really really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: It's just got that right sense of being offbeat. It's fun.
Speaker 1: It's fun, yeah, and thrilling exactly.
Speaker 3: So it's back for its fourth season and this is
Speaker 3: going to be the final season.
Speaker 1: Sadly, okay, and we've had Elliott Page promoting it now.
Speaker 3: He's not really able to give away very very much
Speaker 3: because obviously they want it to be a surprise and
Speaker 3: interesting for us, but they have said they're not really
Speaker 3: allowed to tell us anything. But it's going to be
Speaker 3: as per usual, very fun, classic Hargreaves, chaos and hijinks.
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, very much looking forward to it for these
Speaker 1: two get nicked hopefully, but their siblings, hopefully not with
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: They're not actually siblings, though they kind of they've got
Speaker 2: raised together. They're not related. But you don't know what's
Speaker 2: behind it all, and that's what we might find out
Speaker 2: in season four. You see, apparently the show runner, Steve Blackman,
Speaker 2: doesn't plan to tread the same ground, and they're going
Speaker 2: to subvert the storyline and giving us an ending to end.
Speaker 1: The whole season well from the end of last year
Speaker 1: season three. The spoiler alert. If you've not watched it yet,
Speaker 1: you're too late. Get over it.
Speaker 2: It has been a year. It's been a while. They
Speaker 2: lost all their powers, didn't they. Yes, so it could
Speaker 2: be a very boring season.
Speaker 1: Well, what can you do? Nothing? Well, I heard a
Speaker 1: rumor that oh, nothing happened.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll find out what's all been going on while
Speaker 3: they were all born at the same time, whether they
Speaker 3: are actually siblings or not, and because there has been
Speaker 3: romances between it's already happened. Yeah, but we will find out,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking forward to it. Apparently that's going to
Speaker 3: be released on August eighth.
Speaker 1: Not that towards the end of the year, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've still got a little time to wait yet,
Speaker 3: but it's in the pipeline.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But anyway, moving on, I also have a bit of
Speaker 3: a story about Now this might be a bit of
Speaker 3: a flashback for you. I mean I was already kind
Speaker 3: of a little bit too old when these guys came out,
Speaker 3: really at least on British TV.
Speaker 1: But do you remember the Power Rangers? Do Do Do
Speaker 1: Do Do Do? Yeah, don't do any more of that
Speaker 1: because we have to pay royalties. But yes, I bet
Speaker 1: we don't bet it's out of copyright.
Speaker 3: Well, the nineties weren't that long ago. It's only been
Speaker 3: a decade. But yes, the original cast.
Speaker 1: Twenty four years ago. What did you mean twenty four
Speaker 1: years ago? Twenty four years ago? No, how depressing?
Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, anyway, So from the original cast of the
Speaker 3: Power Rangers, there's the Blue Power Ranger Billy just there
Speaker 3: on the far left.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite of the Power Rangers? As I said,
Speaker 1: I was a little bit too old for this when
Speaker 1: they first came out.
Speaker 3: Really, I was already like coming home from school and
Speaker 3: smoking things I shouldn't and drinking. Okay, at least that's
Speaker 3: how I remember it. I never really engage with them,
Speaker 3: but I knew that they were a big thing for
Speaker 3: kids at the time.
Speaker 2: I liked the green one because his name was Tommy
Speaker 2: and he had a lot He had a ponytail.
Speaker 3: See I kind of looked like that back in the day,
Speaker 3: so I didn't know I do you know who? I
Speaker 3: used to get shouted at me when I was at
Speaker 3: school because this is what I looked like and I
Speaker 3: don't look like it at all now. Darius remember Darius
Speaker 3: Denesh from like the X Factor Dead now? Yeah he's
Speaker 3: dead now, sadly, and he turned out to be quite
Speaker 3: dish year as he grew up. But back when he
Speaker 3: was on X Factor with the long pony tile and
Speaker 3: the sally, yeah, that's what I looked like. And then
Speaker 3: he appeared on X Factor and I never lived it
Speaker 3: down throughout high school. Thanks high school bullies. Anyway, that's
Speaker 3: not the story.
Speaker 1: The story. I wasn't gay at that point. I didn't
Speaker 1: come out till later.
Speaker 3: I did not know anyway back on with the story
Speaker 3: as posed by traumatic childhood. Actually, this is a sad
Speaker 3: story which I think he played Billy Cranston, this guy
Speaker 3: called David Yost and actually he had such a bad
Speaker 3: time during that show because he was gay and still is.
Speaker 3: But they really bullied him on that show for it,
Speaker 3: so much so that he put himself into conversion therapy.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 3: It was apparently about two years, and it just completely
Speaker 3: mucked with his head, as conversion therapy would do.
Speaker 1: He said it gave it. He had a nervous breakdown
Speaker 1: because of it.
Speaker 3: It took him two years to become comfortable and really
Speaker 3: open about himself. And it wasn't an overnight process, and
Speaker 3: it took him a long time to be happy and comfortable.
Speaker 3: He's now an anti conversion therapy campaigner, and he said
Speaker 3: the end result of conversion therapy were numerous thoughts of
Speaker 3: suicide and nervous breakdown, five weeks in a hospital and
Speaker 3: years trying to mend my mental health while operating out
Speaker 3: of survival mode.
Speaker 1: Psychologically destroying and torturing me is not a first right amendment.
Speaker 2: It's very probably at the minute because of course the
Speaker 2: UK and the anti conversion therapy bills still being not
Speaker 2: debated by It's.
Speaker 3: Taking its time, yes, but it's certainly I perceive it
Speaker 3: to be a lesser issue in this country than it
Speaker 3: is an America.
Speaker 2: But I'm still something we could do with legislating again exactly,
Speaker 2: especially a trans siblings. So until it risk about this, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I think it's very important that he shares how traumatic it.
Speaker 1: Can be to go through conversion therapy, and it's good to.
Speaker 3: Make something positive out of a horrible experience because I'm
Speaker 3: sure all the kids that were watching it back in
Speaker 3: the day did not realize that that's what was going
Speaker 3: on behind the scenes. Now anyway, onto a lighter story. Okay,
Speaker 3: American Idol it's still going on. It's apparently season twenty two.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't usually watch these kind of shows. It's just
Speaker 3: not my kind of thing, but they are big, they
Speaker 3: are popular, and it's still going It's Luke Bryan, Katie Perry,
Speaker 3: and Lionel Richie on the judging panel now, and you
Speaker 3: know the format. They go through auditions, they get to
Speaker 3: a big audition, and then somebody comes out as a
Speaker 3: pop star at the end, and you never see of
Speaker 3: them hear of them ever again.
Speaker 1: Kelly Clautson, who Kelly Cloutson.
Speaker 2: You know Kelly Clarkson is I've got a few of
Speaker 2: the tracks on Jim she was an American idult person.
Speaker 1: Some of them do all right, but out of twenty
Speaker 1: two seasons.
Speaker 2: Which American, isn't it, I don't know any of them exactly. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that's young anyway, that's not the point.
Speaker 3: Okay, they're going through the audition stages at the moment, okay,
Speaker 3: and you know, you know how it usually goes. You'll
Speaker 3: get some clips and stuff coming out, and there'll be
Speaker 3: some amazing ones, and there'll be some real clunkers, and
Speaker 3: then they'll be the odd why the hell do they
Speaker 3: even turn up because they're just so awful. Well, one
Speaker 3: of these has come out and it kind of genuinely
Speaker 3: blew my mind. Is actually really good and I think
Speaker 3: that this one might be one of those more force
Speaker 3: for good things, which is really good considering the size
Speaker 3: of the platform. So we have Amari, a bubbly twenty
Speaker 3: eight year old waitress from Indiana. She does this stripped
Speaker 3: back acoustic cover of Britney Spears's Toxic Okay, and it's good.
Speaker 3: It's it's not a Darius no no, no, no no,
Speaker 3: she's really good. She finishes it with a bit of
Speaker 3: a Darius moment, but he is actually quite good. She
Speaker 3: does that mouth trumpet mimicking kind.
Speaker 1: Of, but she's really good at it. Okay, really good
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 3: I'm ridiculous, but she's really good. And it's the whole
Speaker 3: thing's really super cute and very jazzy and stripped back,
Speaker 3: and I really really appreciated it. And she just has
Speaker 3: a beautiful personality. She really shone through, absolutely gorgeous. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: she's just nice, affable, down to her. But Katie Perry
Speaker 3: pipes up and thinks that she might have a little
Speaker 3: bit more in her and asks her to do another
Speaker 3: song now. Before she goes into that song, she explains
Speaker 3: why this song is important to her, and she tells
Speaker 3: the panel that she's actually transgender, and she reflects that
Speaker 3: during her transition, she actually lost a lot of friends.
Speaker 3: The people in her life just walked away. She says,
Speaker 3: it's normal to lose a lot of people. I'm not
Speaker 3: mad at them. I understand. I don't expect people to
Speaker 3: understand everything. I want to love everybody. So many people
Speaker 3: would have been really happy if I'd just stayed in
Speaker 3: my little box. And sometimes I miss that person. And
Speaker 3: then she then goes on to sing she used to
Speaker 3: be Mine from the musical Waitress, and it's stunning, absolutely slight.
Speaker 3: She does it in this talk singing style and all
Speaker 3: of the emotion comes in through that. It's perfect. Lionel
Speaker 3: Richie describes it as perfectly imperfect, and it genuinely is.
Speaker 3: If you go onto YouTube, you should be able to
Speaker 3: find a clip of it rather than having to watch
Speaker 3: the whole damn show. And she's amazing, genuinely.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks that missed.
Speaker 2: I was going to say something wildly inappropriate, but all
Speaker 2: I want to say is stick around because coming up
Speaker 2: next we have our game of the week. You're watching
Speaker 2: Chewing the Cud and this week we're going to play
Speaker 2: a game of that's mighty interesting, and that's for our
Speaker 2: very own bunny Smuggler.
Speaker 1: That's missed. So off your pop okay and the bootse
Speaker 1: you car probably all the week, So we're going to play.
Speaker 1: That's mighty interesting.
Speaker 2: So mister has got a range of Eastern related questions
Speaker 2: for me, and I was trying to get it right.
Speaker 1: This is no way, shape or form a knockoff of QI.
Speaker 3: You any questions, sir, mister, I do and in depth
Speaker 3: and difficult, and you're going to really struggle this week
Speaker 3: to get any questions on this quiz?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Sounds about right? Are you ready? I'm pretty not clever? Right? Okay?
Speaker 1: How are you ready for this? Who wrote the Tale
Speaker 1: of Peter Rabbit? An author? Correct? Well done? But which
Speaker 1: author you're muppet?
Speaker 3: Jim Henderson was known, but author no? Which author wrote
Speaker 3: the Tale of Peter Rabbit?
Speaker 1: Was it? And Jessica Fletcher?
Speaker 3: No, Jessica Fletcher is a fictional character and it's not
Speaker 3: an actual author. Very very famous lady, mainly because of
Speaker 3: these books. Enid Blake close but no cigar. Sorry, it
Speaker 3: was Beatrix Potter.
Speaker 1: Oh that's mighty interesting. Yeah, So so okay, let's try
Speaker 1: another one. What kind of bird delivers eggs to children
Speaker 1: in Switzerland for Easter? What kind of bird? Mm hmmm?
Speaker 1: News and orthological nature? Check out you with the long
Speaker 1: words not as thick as you look. So it's a bird.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a bird. This is a tradition in Switzerland.
Speaker 3: We have bunnies, they have they have a bird.
Speaker 1: They have a bird. But a bird for the word no,
Speaker 1: I'll give you the answer because you're obviously not going
Speaker 1: to get it. It is a Google gool Google. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's mighty interesting.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're blowing things away here.
Speaker 1: I'm well known for that. I've written on toilet walls
Speaker 1: and everything. Let's try another question.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, this is my interesting Sorry, that's your line,
Speaker 3: but it is according to the Bible, that jolly book.
Speaker 3: How did Judas identify Jesus in the Garden of Gathemony?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that same.
Speaker 2: No, that's a tap on grinder, And it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're getting closer, tap on grinder, scruff.
Speaker 1: He waffed him on scruff.
Speaker 3: He didn't waff him on scruff. Think two days where
Speaker 3: you didn't have such digital aids.
Speaker 1: He walked up to the k a right love even closer, Jeff,
Speaker 1: fancy a shag closer. Here's twenty p.
Speaker 3: What happens when a fellow walks around and hanging out
Speaker 3: with twelve guys all at once exactly?
Speaker 1: So no, it wasn't an orgy. He wiped his own
Speaker 1: seaman away from his die. No, he kissed him. Oh
Speaker 1: that's mighty interesting. Okay, the Bible is not obviously not
Speaker 1: your thing, so let's try it is.
Speaker 2: Because according to different parts of the Bible, I can
Speaker 2: prove that we're all women.
Speaker 1: Now that's mighty interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hang on, we're doing this is the wrong way
Speaker 2: around because in the Bible it says that we are
Speaker 2: all children of the Lord.
Speaker 1: But then later on it says that God so loved
Speaker 1: the world he gave his only son. We're a woman,
Speaker 1: then that is mighty and rest. This is the wrong
Speaker 1: way round. I'm supposed to be giving either fact.
Speaker 3: Right, Back to the quick, Okay, back to the quiz.
Speaker 3: So what is Easter known as in France? I'm not look, Oh,
Speaker 3: let's shock.
Speaker 1: A lad day, no surrender, no lotta. That's a song,
Speaker 1: not the name for Easter. Bastile day, no brioche day. Right,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get it.
Speaker 3: I actually don't know how to pronounce this. My niece,
Speaker 3: who lived in France for a long long time, will
Speaker 3: be very annoyed at making it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Facts pas facts p A with one of those little
Speaker 3: fiddly bits on the top of it.
Speaker 1: Q u E s now packs is pax? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and it's shoffing packs and you shove
Speaker 1: it up your chickens. Oh that's mighty interesting. Moving on,
Speaker 1: what is the day before Good Friday? Called? Do you
Speaker 1: actually want to know the answer to this? Or joined
Speaker 1: a comedy moment? A comedy moment would be a first
Speaker 1: on this show.
Speaker 2: I'm so I have a memory of going on the
Speaker 2: Thursday before Good Friday queuing up for a pat of butter?
Speaker 2: Was my gran because the council used to give us
Speaker 2: butter instead of money. So yeah, he says in what
Speaker 2: comedy moment? So I told your story instead?
Speaker 1: What? Hi? What were we doing? It's Mornday Thursday because
Speaker 1: you get more day money. God, you got it right,
Speaker 1: well done.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm a smart What is the name of the
Speaker 4: rabbit in Winni the poop rampant? No, this is rampant rabbit.
Speaker 3: He's not a rampant rabbit if I remember correctly, He's
Speaker 3: quite an old rabbit days.
Speaker 1: If the batteries work, the batter's work. Well, the name
Speaker 1: of the rabbits in Winnie the Pooh was rabbit. That's
Speaker 1: not very imaginative. I mean, that's very interesting on them. Now.
Speaker 3: We talked about this earlier. Actually true or false? Easter
Speaker 3: is named after the pagan goddess Estra.
Speaker 1: You're asking me whether it's named after God's called Estra.
Speaker 3: Yeah, true or false. I'm not pronouncing that correctly, by
Speaker 3: the way, But hey ho, I'm.
Speaker 1: Supposed to get it right. If you don't even give
Speaker 1: me the right question, pronounce it properly.
Speaker 3: I can't pronounce it properly. That's why I pronounced it wrong.
Speaker 3: It's a very very old word. Nobody knows how it
Speaker 3: is supposed to be pronounced.
Speaker 1: Sal e O s t r E is the tear?
Speaker 1: Normal shape? Tear?
Speaker 2: Is it slanty t It's not a slanty t okay,
Speaker 2: no idea is I just wanted to make it sound.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm talking about. I know Old
Speaker 2: English had an F which was an S. True according
Speaker 2: to this yes it is true. According to other pagan authors,
Speaker 2: it's not true at all. But hey ho, that's a
Speaker 2: history for you.
Speaker 1: What a in a minute? Hang on a minute, hang
Speaker 1: a minute. So it is isn't? It can't be both.
Speaker 1: It depends on who you talk to. There are scholars,
Speaker 1: it's common that's what the university system is for. There
Speaker 1: are scholars. It's actually. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The people do argue it's commonly thought as being that,
Speaker 3: but I have sources that say it's not.
Speaker 2: Actually, that's very gravy on milam Oh, that's mighty interesting.
Speaker 1: What does the rabbit from Alice in Wonderland always carry?
Speaker 1: It's a better batress.
Speaker 2: You are obsessed with this sex toy, aren't you. Well,
Speaker 2: look you know when you get get something, I need
Speaker 2: some batteries. You never find batteries. There's always someone that's
Speaker 2: called practice then.
Speaker 1: That remember when this was written they weren't batteries back then?
Speaker 1: When was it written? A long time ago? Before batteries?
Speaker 2: Alice in Wonderland? Yes there's Carol, Yes, Victorian times. Yes
Speaker 2: that batters did we Yeah, they weren't known as batteries
Speaker 2: and they were they weren't easy to move and stuff.
Speaker 1: But we've had batteries for centuries before batteries were common use.
Speaker 2: And if you're a triple A, it was a watch
Speaker 2: it as it was always running late because he was
Speaker 2: office tits on speed. That's mighty interesting. But can we
Speaker 2: after this short break. We have Jordan Charles in Spotlight.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to during the good We've had someone knock
Speaker 2: on our door, so let him in and it's actually
Speaker 2: Jordan Charles, so let's get to know him in Spotlight.
Speaker 1: So welcome, thank you, thank you for having me. It's
Speaker 1: our pleasure. So for people that don't know who you
Speaker 1: are and what you do, you're an artist in residence. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So the Mill has its beautiful new fifth floor space
Speaker 5: kind of like a multipurpose residency space, and so I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm one of the first resident artists up there, kind
Speaker 5: of getting to use the space to just take some
Speaker 5: time away and make some incredible work hopefully Okay.
Speaker 1: And so what kind of work is it that you
Speaker 1: do while you're in that space.
Speaker 5: So I'm a singer and a writer, and so I'm
Speaker 5: currently writing a musical and so I've been up there, yeah,
Speaker 5: playing around with the songs and kind of making puppets
Speaker 5: and kind of just trying to test out this brand
Speaker 5: new idea.
Speaker 1: And it's been Yeah, it's been a great time. Actually
Speaker 1: you said puppets, I am very excited about. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So we've been working with an amazing puppeteer Carolyn Adda,
Speaker 5: who yeah, makes incredible puppets out of like recycled materials
Speaker 5: and new new, and so we kind of yeah, got
Speaker 5: her to come and work with us and make some
Speaker 5: things for us. And she made puppets out of like
Speaker 5: rubber gloves and like bin bags and bits of cardboard.
Speaker 5: But they kind of, yeah, moved and spoke and did
Speaker 5: incredible things. I think you'd have loved it.
Speaker 1: Well. First got you into the arts.
Speaker 5: So many many years ago, when I was about four
Speaker 5: years old at our school, we'd all do this like
Speaker 5: arts festival. Everyone would get up and do like a
Speaker 5: little poem and you don't learn the same one. And
Speaker 5: there was this little poem about a chicken and my
Speaker 5: and so we all got up and did that little
Speaker 5: poem about the chicken, and I got up.
Speaker 1: And did mine.
Speaker 5: And the head mistress, who was like a scary woman,
Speaker 5: she was a you know, stern, stern woman, but lovely,
Speaker 5: she came up to my parents and she said that
Speaker 5: one drama lessons now.
Speaker 1: And the rest is history. And when did it become
Speaker 1: a career for you?
Speaker 5: It became a I've been doing it full time for
Speaker 5: about seven years now. I did a TV show called
Speaker 5: Let It Shine. It was Gary Bardo TV show, and
Speaker 5: he was kind of looking for people to play Take
Speaker 5: That in his own musical. You might have noticed I
Speaker 5: don't really look like any of the members of Take That,
Speaker 5: so it was a bit of a it was a
Speaker 5: bit of a job. But yeah, I did that show
Speaker 5: and I was working full time at the time, and
Speaker 5: I kind of tried to do the job and you
Speaker 5: know this at the same time, and they basically like,
Speaker 5: you can't take two months off to go and do
Speaker 5: this show. So yeah, with no bookings, no plans, no nothing,
Speaker 5: I just quit my job. And yeah, took a leap.
Speaker 1: Nice. So you took that leap, and it's all history
Speaker 1: since then. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And of course during the pandemic, arts took a bit
Speaker 2: of a pause, shall we say, just a little one
Speaker 2: week off.
Speaker 1: So what was it you were doing during the pandemic.
Speaker 5: Well, actually, like directly before the pandemic was the first
Speaker 5: time that I came to the mill to work on
Speaker 5: this musical Audia, and I hadn't touched it for years,
Speaker 5: and then I had just kind of got myself together
Speaker 5: to start working on it again, and I did my
Speaker 5: first little residency here at the mill, and it was
Speaker 5: kind of this, you know, the start of new things,
Speaker 5: big things, and that was in January twenty twenty, and
Speaker 5: then obviously Mark twenty twenty. Then you know, things kind
Speaker 5: of like fell apart for everyone in the arts really,
Speaker 5: so I just kind of took the time and I
Speaker 5: kind of focused on other things I hadn't had the
Speaker 5: chance to really look at, so I didn't do I
Speaker 5: kind of I started writing poetry much more in the pandemic.
Speaker 5: I really that was really kind of something that really
Speaker 5: helped me get through, especially some of the more difficult
Speaker 5: early times. I kind of, yeah, just got it out
Speaker 5: through poetry that hadn't written in like five years, and
Speaker 5: just other things I just stuff like to get play
Speaker 5: around with. I started to play around with makeup and
Speaker 5: kind of created a like an aesthetic and like clothes
Speaker 5: and started learning how to sew properly, and yeah, just
Speaker 5: kind of tried things out. Banana bread, no banana bread,
Speaker 5: but lots of baking. And because I'm I'm diabetic, so
Speaker 5: there's like lots of like sugar free baking and experimentation
Speaker 5: and yeah, different things, a.
Speaker 1: Lot of banana breadur in the pandemic. Yeah, what's what's
Speaker 1: your most what's your biggest inspiration?
Speaker 5: I'm inspired by a lot of things really kind of
Speaker 5: like quite directly, especially in the work I'm making at
Speaker 5: the minute, a lot of the kind of you know,
Speaker 5: big musicals that we all that we all love, kind
Speaker 5: of people like Alan Menkin, kind of that Golden Age
Speaker 5: of Disney. But then also like inspired artistically by by
Speaker 5: people's kind of just commitment to really being themselves and
Speaker 5: being their full, yeah, full authentic person, So people like
Speaker 5: Genelle Monet and Beyonce, you know, kind of really bringing
Speaker 5: all of themselves into the work, but it also still
Speaker 5: being really beautiful and elevated and incredible.
Speaker 1: So yeah, particular themes that you work with or ideas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at the minute, especially I'm working a lot with mythology.
Speaker 5: The show draws from europeur mythology, West African mythology, and
Speaker 5: I've always been a bit of a fantasy nerd. I
Speaker 5: love D and D at the moment, so like that's yeah,
Speaker 5: that's always.
Speaker 1: A big Sorry, this has just got very excited, said
Speaker 1: twenty waiting for me. As soon as we wrap the
Speaker 1: second round, I'll come with you.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that big, yeah, fantasy is definitely a big,
Speaker 5: a big inspiration, a big theme, and kind of tying
Speaker 5: that in with my own identity however I can, whether
Speaker 5: that's my blackness or my queerness, like kind of yet
Speaker 5: bringing those two things together.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm just waiting for desperate. Yeah, he's giving me.
Speaker 5: He's giving me kind of like barbarian fighter vibes, but
Speaker 5: like with a heart of gold, heart.
Speaker 1: Of gold heart runs.
Speaker 2: So with all those inspirations that you've got and all
Speaker 2: those things you can draw inspiration from, how does that
Speaker 2: come across any poetry?
Speaker 5: I think it comes across quite directly, to be honest,
Speaker 5: because my poetry is quite it's quite conversational. It's quite
Speaker 5: kind of yeah, they could almost be, you know, more
Speaker 5: unspoken word monologues. Yeah, so I think it comes in
Speaker 5: quite directly because I'm often speaking from, yeah, a place
Speaker 5: of my own experience kind of you know, have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a poem called.
Speaker 5: I Lost, which is very much just kind of me
Speaker 5: and my musings about my feelings about you know, my
Speaker 5: history and access to elders and queer elders and black elders,
Speaker 5: and you know, yeah, I think it's it's it's it's
Speaker 5: it's there because I if I'm writing poetry, it's one
Speaker 5: of the most direct forms I have of really just
Speaker 5: putting my heart on the paper.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me say, it's about your history. What what
Speaker 2: is your history? How would you describe that?
Speaker 1: Oh? Long and storied, and that's how I describe it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that the parts of my history that are
Speaker 5: really important to me are, yeah, being a Caribbean person
Speaker 5: living in Britain, understanding what that means historically as much
Speaker 5: as I can. I'm currently reading Black and British by
Speaker 5: David L. Shoga, which is about you know, the history
Speaker 5: of black people in Britain going back way wait, you
Speaker 5: know to you know, medieval times almost so, yeah, kind
Speaker 5: of like accessing that as much as possible. And then
Speaker 5: my identity is a queer person and how those two
Speaker 5: things kind of like, you know, interplay and have interplay
Speaker 5: throughout my whole life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just trying to.
Speaker 3: Access the ancestors as much as possible through through what
Speaker 3: I'm doing. In terms of your back catalog and everything
Speaker 3: that you have done, well, I.
Speaker 5: Like, you've got to get a back catalog, but yeah,
Speaker 5: let's let's use that.
Speaker 3: What's been the most satisfying the proudest thing that you've
Speaker 3: produced so far.
Speaker 5: I mean, other than the show that we you know,
Speaker 5: we had our sharing last night at the mill, other
Speaker 5: than that. Very recently, I took part in a competition
Speaker 5: Pride's Got Talent. It's run by Pride in London, and
Speaker 5: I kind of took part in it almost almost at
Speaker 5: whim really, I kind of just had some time and
Speaker 5: just kind of really went for it. But then once
Speaker 5: I was there, I was kind of so infused and
Speaker 5: kind of really really dove in and somehow managed to
Speaker 5: fool them into giving me the crowd. So thank you,
Speaker 5: thank you, thank you. Uh and so yeah, kind of
Speaker 5: a yeah and and and then and the final was
Speaker 5: it the Adelphi Theater, so kind of big old Western theater,
Speaker 5: which was a brand new experience for me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just kind of being able to do that
Speaker 1: and making it through was what does the future hold?
Speaker 5: The future holds spending more time working on my on
Speaker 5: my own work, now working on this show, hopefully kind
Speaker 5: of taking it to a to a yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: to a full production or you're on stage somewhere, and
Speaker 5: just yeah, really kind of committing to myself as an artist.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the next challenge.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, And if we want to find out what
Speaker 2: you're doing in a way up to how would we
Speaker 2: get in a hold of you?
Speaker 5: You can follow me at I am Jordan Charles on
Speaker 5: my Instagram where you can see me doing some more
Speaker 5: gay nonsense, or you can follow Obsidia Collective at we
Speaker 5: are Obsidia O B S I D I A. And
Speaker 5: you can find this at Obsidia Collective dot com as well,
Speaker 5: where you can find all manner of things about me
Speaker 5: and the musical and what's coming up next?
Speaker 1: And so would you like to come back on and
Speaker 1: talk about the musical? If I must, I'd love to perfect.
Speaker 2: Well, that's almost the end of the show. Remember to
Speaker 2: find us on our social media is at the cood TV.
Speaker 1: Thank you for watching and we'll see you soon. Bye, babe.
Speaker 1: Very excited about having me on about the musical. Yes, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you.