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<v Speaker 1>You're watching Chewing the Cud.

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<v Speaker 2>We've missed Kinsman and Mike Benu Room don't care what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying. I think I look bloody sexy. H Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Cheering the Cud this week. I'm joined by the

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<v Speaker 2>man who always has an egg. Well, it's more of

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<v Speaker 2>a butt it's missed.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi. How are you? I'm fine? Thank you. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. That's why I stopped saying butt plug.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you got for us this weekness?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this week I'm talking about a mighty Morphing Power

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<v Speaker 3>Ranger because it's apparently the nineties. And then we have

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<v Speaker 3>an Eastere game to play in our Game of the week.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's before we welcome Jordan Charles to the show

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<v Speaker 3>on Spotlight on screen. Now you can see our social

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<v Speaker 3>media just search for at the Cud TV. And as

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<v Speaker 3>people who have popped up in our comments go along

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom of our screen, it's time for Mike in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Buzz thirty seconds or that was already not makeup? Ale

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<v Speaker 1>over it? What mean? Is cup? No my makeup? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel about mini eggs? I quite quite like

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<v Speaker 1>it a mini egg? How many do you have in

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<v Speaker 1>a handful?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not supposed to be on a tiet. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>but how many you actually having a handful? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>could easily flee a couple in a couple in did

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<v Speaker 3>you know serving sizes eight mini eggs? Eight mini eggs?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight mini eggs not a bag?

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<v Speaker 3>That's ridiculous. Who's going to portion out eight eggs? People

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<v Speaker 3>are counting calories? But they've been they've been issued with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Warning of mini eggs okay, because basically they call they

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<v Speaker 2>kill children, they're choking hazard. Basically, cabries have been told

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<v Speaker 2>that they have to put water labels on them because

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<v Speaker 2>people are putting them in their children are eating them

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<v Speaker 2>right as children would and choking on them because they're

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<v Speaker 2>going too quickly with them and they're a hard shells.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's isn't that really on the children not knowing

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<v Speaker 2>how to chew? Yeah, but you can't. You can't stop

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<v Speaker 2>that happening. Does everything you stick in your mouth have

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<v Speaker 2>to come with a label?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, well comes with the noise.

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<v Speaker 2>You should try not to say that. So what we're

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<v Speaker 2>basically saying is mini eggs are not for kids, They're

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<v Speaker 2>only for adults.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's more for us than that's that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a bad thing. No, solve the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a lot of East Dreggs at home?

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<v Speaker 3>I celebrate a star because I'm one of those weird, beardy,

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<v Speaker 3>weirdy type people. So I've already had my Easter egg Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>nice big. I go for luxury rather than quantity for.

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<v Speaker 1>Quality, right, Okay, Well be thankfully don't live on Orkney.

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<v Speaker 1>Why what's happened in Orkney? Because they've gone for out

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<v Speaker 1>quantity of equality?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, the main shop has as they've accidentally ordered

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>And twenty East eggs. How many seven hundred and twenty?

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<v Speaker 2>It was supposed to order eighty and ordered seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty because he kept forgetting it up placed in.

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<v Speaker 3>Order, so he just kept ordering again and again Easter eggs. Well, yell,

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<v Speaker 3>what's he going to do with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? What is actually is doing a raffle to win

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred Easter eggs? Training it with one hundred of them.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still got a shed load left though. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to have one hundred Easter eggs or one?

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<v Speaker 2>But very very happy person, I think, But what is

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<v Speaker 2>actually said? I was reading this news story. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's more saying there's more eggs than are people on

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<v Speaker 2>the island, right, because he's tiny, tiny, How many.

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<v Speaker 1>Eggs do you think each person would have to get through.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're not just like chuck them at the puffins.

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<v Speaker 2>The Puffins don't like it, don't like I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>puffs renowned for not liking any strengths. In fact, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a well known fact. I forgot.

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<v Speaker 3>How many actual people are on the actual island.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the disappointing part of the new story.

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<v Speaker 2>It averages out one and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, like that's a day. Well, I suppose he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to make actual sales. But yeah, but it's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>one and half a day. That's easy done.

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<v Speaker 3>Question is is what's what's what's the facilities in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of diabetic hospitals?

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<v Speaker 2>Not great, eating three strikes in one day won't give

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<v Speaker 2>you diabetes. I mean, if you've already got diabetes, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not really great for you. Or if you're pre diabetic,

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<v Speaker 2>is going to push you over. But it's only three strekes,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be right. They're not the massive ones.

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<v Speaker 1>No they aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they're just yah, they're just eggs. You can pop

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<v Speaker 2>one of them and not even notice. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>can pop things in and not even notice, why not

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<v Speaker 2>share that with us. We're at the coud TV on

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<v Speaker 2>social media and that brings us to our story of

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<v Speaker 2>the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, do you like subway sandwiches? Oh? I could? I

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<v Speaker 1>could slip one of those down the gullet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you could. You can take twelve inches, keny more

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<v Speaker 2>than I believe it. What's your favorite sub Bay sub?

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<v Speaker 1>Say? Subways? Brother, just sub I quite like a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of tuna. Maoo, you have it toasted? No good? Who

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<v Speaker 1>wants warm fish? Warmfish in mayonnaise?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the good news is for all subway fans that

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<v Speaker 2>they have launched a special Easter Subway what's in that?

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<v Speaker 1>Cabbage cream? Eggs? Ooh, sweet things and bread? Sweet things

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<v Speaker 1>in bread.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the thing is Subway bread is renowned for being

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<v Speaker 2>sweet so much in the fact is Ireland.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually technically called a cake. Oh yes, sugar yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like American bread.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're only to sell five hundred of them across

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<v Speaker 1>the country. I can't imagine that's nice if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine the taste and going, I wonder what that

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<v Speaker 1>tastes like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a sandwich and a cream egg for dessert. Mummon, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all going in the same place, but they are

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<v Speaker 3>two separate events.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but how do you also feel about hot chocolate,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what that is, because it's a toasted one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I don't. I don't have a bread stick

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<v Speaker 3>in my hot chocolate. Okay, you've been very negative about

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<v Speaker 3>this idea. I'll have a flake in my hot chocolate. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that you can't stir a flake in it's just not

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<v Speaker 3>And that's no longer a mug of is it? That's

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<v Speaker 3>no longer a mug.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite of heart chocolate or mug. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my.

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<v Speaker 3>Favorite things to do with hot chocolate or coffee is

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<v Speaker 3>get a kit cat bite off both ends, shut it

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<v Speaker 3>in gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad that you're open minded towards this because

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<v Speaker 2>because you can only get five undred of them, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nowhere I was going to get one for the show today, sheepskate.

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<v Speaker 2>I do, however, Well, there's limited availability. I do, however,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a mind of imagination and ingenuity. You are

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<v Speaker 2>a clever Yeah, So I have a toasty maker and

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<v Speaker 2>I have made.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you cut the crust?

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<v Speaker 3>I have cut the crussh you big kids.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go on then, because you have to cut that

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<v Speaker 2>because everybody knows that the middle bit is possible to break.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheers, okay, mm hmm, that's good, right, mm hmm. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>bout my head for a bit of one. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a taste sensation, that's m hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely a taste sensation. I'm not too sure if

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<v Speaker 3>it's a good one, but it is a sensation. Mm

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<v Speaker 3>hmmm mmm mm hmm. It's not an idiot, but well,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for that, Mike, love try. I want to move

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<v Speaker 3>on because I don't want to shove any more of

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<v Speaker 3>it in about.

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<v Speaker 1>What plant more? M you don't have to eat any

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<v Speaker 1>more of it, then that's fine. You've tried it, you

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<v Speaker 1>gave it a go. There's a lot of queue involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a lot of Yeah, you have to get

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<v Speaker 3>your mouth around it and then you and enjoy what

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<v Speaker 3>what spurts out of the filling.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, so you're not you're not a fan of that,

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<v Speaker 1>then no, why not?

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<v Speaker 3>Because because because it's it's it's it's it's merging two

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<v Speaker 3>things that I don't feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate is just delightful.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but the balance is all wrong. Balance is

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<v Speaker 3>wrong for what it's just it's just too much sweet

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<v Speaker 3>in the bread I like. I like a glass on

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit it's of chocolate in but it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little bits of chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what are you doing? I play it in my cupboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, you could also get do the camera once

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<v Speaker 1>just say thank you? Are we eating it now? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we okay? Facing the sweet shop? Right? This is a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to pop it in? You've heard that before.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you done something to this?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done anything to it, trust at all. That

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<v Speaker 1>subwhere we're going just close that I think popped to

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<v Speaker 1>Love again. No, no, no issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Subway of and said I'm only going to do five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred of these. This is a great conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great, going to do five under of these. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they are talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About all those things that they could possibly do. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So coming soon you may see a mars bar subway

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<v Speaker 2>or a Snickers. You're up for a mars bar, but

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<v Speaker 2>not because that is that not the wrong amount of sweet?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? Skip? Little Timmy is down and well.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't wait three minutes, no idea. Look, Timmy has

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<v Speaker 2>stuck down all paraly.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're doing a pressure fing flipper everything. Everything's by

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<v Speaker 1>the sea. It's fine. I was just saying it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that I want to have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, Okay, I couldn't tell what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's all from the buzz this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well thanks for that, and it's left.

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<v Speaker 3>Me with a rather nice and unusual sensation down the

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<v Speaker 3>back of my throat because.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't warm pleasure as always.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick around because coming up next we have missed in

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<v Speaker 2>the celebrity show biz news. You're watching chewing a cud

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<v Speaker 2>with mist and Mike. Now let's get ready for the

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<v Speaker 2>showbiz with the one in the hat. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>look quite pretty actually, anyway, time for the show is news.

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<v Speaker 3>First up, one of my favorite shows is back, The

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<v Speaker 3>Umbrella Academy.

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<v Speaker 1>I like The Umbrella Academy. Yeah, I really really enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just got that right sense of being offbeat. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun, yeah, and thrilling exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's back for its fourth season and this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the final season.

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<v Speaker 1>Sadly, okay, and we've had Elliott Page promoting it now.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not really able to give away very very much

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<v Speaker 3>because obviously they want it to be a surprise and

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<v Speaker 3>interesting for us, but they have said they're not really

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to tell us anything. But it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>as per usual, very fun, classic Hargreaves, chaos and hijinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. Yeah, very much looking forward to it for these

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<v Speaker 2>They're not actually siblings, though they kind of they've got

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<v Speaker 2>to subvert the storyline and giving us an ending to end.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole season well from the end of last year

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<v Speaker 1>season three. The spoiler alert. If you've not watched it yet,

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<v Speaker 2>It has been a year. It's been a while. They

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what can you do? Nothing? Well, I heard a

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, moving on, I also have a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a story about Now this might be a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>But do you remember the Power Rangers? Do Do Do

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<v Speaker 1>Do Do Do? Yeah, don't do any more of that

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty four years ago. What did you mean twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago? Twenty four years ago? No, how depressing?

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I was already like coming home from school and

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<v Speaker 3>smoking things I shouldn't and drinking. Okay, at least that's

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<v Speaker 3>how I remember it. I never really engage with them,

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<v Speaker 3>but I knew that they were a big thing for

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<v Speaker 2>I liked the green one because his name was Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>and he had a lot He had a ponytail.

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<v Speaker 3>See I kind of looked like that back in the day,

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<v Speaker 3>so I didn't know I do you know who? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't look like it at all now. Darius remember Darius

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<v Speaker 3>Denesh from like the X Factor Dead now? Yeah he's

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<v Speaker 3>dead now, sadly, and he turned out to be quite

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<v Speaker 3>dish year as he grew up. But back when he

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<v Speaker 3>was on X Factor with the long pony tile and

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<v Speaker 3>the sally, yeah, that's what I looked like. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he appeared on X Factor and I never lived it

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<v Speaker 3>down throughout high school. Thanks high school bullies. Anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not the story.

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<v Speaker 1>The story. I wasn't gay at that point. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out till later.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not know anyway back on with the story

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<v Speaker 3>as posed by traumatic childhood. Actually, this is a sad

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<v Speaker 3>story which I think he played Billy Cranston, this guy

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<v Speaker 3>called David Yost and actually he had such a bad

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<v Speaker 3>time during that show because he was gay and still is.

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<v Speaker 3>But they really bullied him on that show for it,

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<v Speaker 3>so much so that he put himself into conversion therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was apparently about two years, and it just completely

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<v Speaker 3>mucked with his head, as conversion therapy would do.

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<v Speaker 1>He said it gave it. He had a nervous breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>because of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It took him two years to become comfortable and really

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<v Speaker 3>open about himself. And it wasn't an overnight process, and

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<v Speaker 3>it took him a long time to be happy and comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>He's now an anti conversion therapy campaigner, and he said

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<v Speaker 3>the end result of conversion therapy were numerous thoughts of

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<v Speaker 3>suicide and nervous breakdown, five weeks in a hospital and

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<v Speaker 3>years trying to mend my mental health while operating out

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<v Speaker 3>of survival mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Psychologically destroying and torturing me is not a first right amendment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very probably at the minute because of course the

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<v Speaker 2>UK and the anti conversion therapy bills still being not

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<v Speaker 2>debated by It's.

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<v Speaker 3>Taking its time, yes, but it's certainly I perceive it

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<v Speaker 3>to be a lesser issue in this country than it

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<v Speaker 3>is an America.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm still something we could do with legislating again exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>especially a trans siblings. So until it risk about this, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very important that he shares how traumatic it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can be to go through conversion therapy, and it's good to.

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<v Speaker 3>Make something positive out of a horrible experience because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure all the kids that were watching it back in

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<v Speaker 3>the day did not realize that that's what was going

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<v Speaker 3>on behind the scenes. Now anyway, onto a lighter story. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>American Idol it's still going on. It's apparently season twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't usually watch these kind of shows. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>not my kind of thing, but they are big, they

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<v Speaker 3>are popular, and it's still going It's Luke Bryan, Katie Perry,

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<v Speaker 3>and Lionel Richie on the judging panel now, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know the format. They go through auditions, they get to

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<v Speaker 3>a big audition, and then somebody comes out as a

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<v Speaker 3>pop star at the end, and you never see of

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<v Speaker 3>them hear of them ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Clautson, who Kelly Cloutson.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Kelly Clarkson is I've got a few of

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks on Jim she was an American idult person.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them do all right, but out of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Which American, isn't it, I don't know any of them exactly. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's young anyway, that's not the point.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they're going through the audition stages at the moment, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, you know how it usually goes. You'll

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<v Speaker 3>get some clips and stuff coming out, and there'll be

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<v Speaker 3>some amazing ones, and there'll be some real clunkers, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they'll be the odd why the hell do they

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<v Speaker 3>even turn up because they're just so awful. Well, one

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<v Speaker 3>of these has come out and it kind of genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>blew my mind. Is actually really good and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that this one might be one of those more force

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<v Speaker 3>for good things, which is really good considering the size

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<v Speaker 3>of the platform. So we have Amari, a bubbly twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eight year old waitress from Indiana. She does this stripped

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<v Speaker 3>back acoustic cover of Britney Spears's Toxic Okay, and it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's not a Darius no no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 3>she's really good. She finishes it with a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a Darius moment, but he is actually quite good. She

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<v Speaker 3>does that mouth trumpet mimicking kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of, but she's really good at it. Okay, really good

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<v Speaker 1>at it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ridiculous, but she's really good. And it's the whole

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<v Speaker 3>thing's really super cute and very jazzy and stripped back,

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<v Speaker 3>and I really really appreciated it. And she just has

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful personality. She really shone through, absolutely gorgeous. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she's just nice, affable, down to her. But Katie Perry

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<v Speaker 3>pipes up and thinks that she might have a little

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<v Speaker 3>song now. Before she goes into that song, she explains

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<v Speaker 3>why this song is important to her, and she tells

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<v Speaker 3>the panel that she's actually transgender, and she reflects that

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<v Speaker 3>during her transition, she actually lost a lot of friends.

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<v Speaker 3>The people in her life just walked away. She says,

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<v Speaker 3>it's normal to lose a lot of people. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>mad at them. I understand. I don't expect people to

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<v Speaker 3>understand everything. I want to love everybody. So many people

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<v Speaker 3>would have been really happy if I'd just stayed in

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<v Speaker 3>my little box. And sometimes I miss that person. And

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<v Speaker 3>then she then goes on to sing she used to

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<v Speaker 3>be Mine from the musical Waitress, and it's stunning, absolutely slight.

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<v Speaker 3>She does it in this talk singing style and all

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<v Speaker 3>of the emotion comes in through that. It's perfect. Lionel

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<v Speaker 3>Richie describes it as perfectly imperfect, and it genuinely is.

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<v Speaker 3>If you go onto YouTube, you should be able to

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<v Speaker 3>find a clip of it rather than having to watch

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<v Speaker 3>the whole damn show. And she's amazing, genuinely.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks that missed.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say something wildly inappropriate, but all

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say is stick around because coming up

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<v Speaker 2>next we have our game of the week. You're watching

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<v Speaker 2>Chewing the Cud and this week we're going to play

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<v Speaker 2>a game of that's mighty interesting, and that's for our

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<v Speaker 2>very own bunny Smuggler.

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<v Speaker 1>That's missed. So off your pop okay and the bootse

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<v Speaker 1>you car probably all the week, So we're going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's mighty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So mister has got a range of Eastern related questions

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and I was trying to get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is no way, shape or form a knockoff of QI.

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<v Speaker 3>You any questions, sir, mister, I do and in depth

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<v Speaker 3>and difficult, and you're going to really struggle this week

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<v Speaker 3>to get any questions on this quiz?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds about right? Are you ready? I'm pretty not clever? Right? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you ready for this? Who wrote the Tale

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<v Speaker 1>of Peter Rabbit? An author? Correct? Well done? But which

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<v Speaker 1>author you're muppet?

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Henderson was known, but author no? Which author wrote

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<v Speaker 3>the Tale of Peter Rabbit?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? And Jessica Fletcher?

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<v Speaker 3>No, Jessica Fletcher is a fictional character and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>an actual author. Very very famous lady, mainly because of

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<v Speaker 3>these books. Enid Blake close but no cigar. Sorry, it

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<v Speaker 3>was Beatrix Potter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's mighty interesting. Yeah, So so okay, let's try

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<v Speaker 1>another one. What kind of bird delivers eggs to children

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<v Speaker 1>in Switzerland for Easter? What kind of bird? Mm hmmm?

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<v Speaker 1>News and orthological nature? Check out you with the long

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<v Speaker 1>words not as thick as you look. So it's a bird.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's a bird. This is a tradition in Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 3>We have bunnies, they have they have a bird.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a bird. But a bird for the word no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the answer because you're obviously not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get it. It is a Google gool Google. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's mighty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're blowing things away here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well known for that. I've written on toilet walls

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. Let's try another question.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, this is my interesting Sorry, that's your line,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is according to the Bible, that jolly book.

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<v Speaker 3>How did Judas identify Jesus in the Garden of Gathemony?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that same.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's a tap on grinder, And it's like, oh,

426
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<v Speaker 2>you're getting closer, tap on grinder, scruff.

427
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<v Speaker 1>He waffed him on scruff.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't waff him on scruff. Think two days where

429
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<v Speaker 3>you didn't have such digital aids.

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<v Speaker 1>He walked up to the k a right love even closer, Jeff,

431
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<v Speaker 1>fancy a shag closer. Here's twenty p.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens when a fellow walks around and hanging out

433
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<v Speaker 3>with twelve guys all at once exactly?

434
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<v Speaker 1>So no, it wasn't an orgy. He wiped his own

435
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<v Speaker 1>seaman away from his die. No, he kissed him. Oh

436
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<v Speaker 1>that's mighty interesting. Okay, the Bible is not obviously not

437
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<v Speaker 1>your thing, so let's try it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Because according to different parts of the Bible, I can

439
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<v Speaker 2>prove that we're all women.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Now that's mighty interesting.

441
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hang on, we're doing this is the wrong way

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<v Speaker 2>around because in the Bible it says that we are

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<v Speaker 2>all children of the Lord.

444
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<v Speaker 1>But then later on it says that God so loved

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<v Speaker 1>the world he gave his only son. We're a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>then that is mighty and rest. This is the wrong

447
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<v Speaker 1>way round. I'm supposed to be giving either fact.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Back to the quick, Okay, back to the quiz.

449
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<v Speaker 3>So what is Easter known as in France? I'm not look, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>let's shock.

451
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 1>A lad day, no surrender, no lotta. That's a song,

452
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<v Speaker 1>not the name for Easter. Bastile day, no brioche day. Right,

453
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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually don't know how to pronounce this. My niece,

455
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<v Speaker 3>who lived in France for a long long time, will

456
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<v Speaker 3>be very annoyed at making it.

457
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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Facts pas facts p A with one of those little

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<v Speaker 3>fiddly bits on the top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Q u E s now packs is pax? I don't know.

461
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and it's shoffing packs and you shove

462
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 1>it up your chickens. Oh that's mighty interesting. Moving on,

463
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<v Speaker 1>what is the day before Good Friday? Called? Do you

464
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<v Speaker 1>actually want to know the answer to this? Or joined

465
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<v Speaker 1>a comedy moment? A comedy moment would be a first

466
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<v Speaker 1>on this show.

467
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<v Speaker 2>I'm so I have a memory of going on the

468
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<v Speaker 2>Thursday before Good Friday queuing up for a pat of butter?

469
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<v Speaker 2>Was my gran because the council used to give us

470
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<v Speaker 2>butter instead of money. So yeah, he says in what

471
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 2>comedy moment? So I told your story instead?

472
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<v Speaker 1>What? Hi? What were we doing? It's Mornday Thursday because

473
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<v Speaker 1>you get more day money. God, you got it right,

474
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<v Speaker 1>well done.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I'm a smart What is the name of the

476
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<v Speaker 4>rabbit in Winni the poop rampant? No, this is rampant rabbit.

477
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<v Speaker 3>He's not a rampant rabbit if I remember correctly, He's

478
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 3>quite an old rabbit days.

479
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<v Speaker 1>If the batteries work, the batter's work. Well, the name

480
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 1>of the rabbits in Winnie the Pooh was rabbit. That's

481
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>not very imaginative. I mean, that's very interesting on them. Now.

482
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<v Speaker 3>We talked about this earlier. Actually true or false? Easter

483
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<v Speaker 3>is named after the pagan goddess Estra.

484
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<v Speaker 1>You're asking me whether it's named after God's called Estra.

485
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, true or false. I'm not pronouncing that correctly, by

486
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<v Speaker 3>the way, But hey ho, I'm.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Supposed to get it right. If you don't even give

488
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<v Speaker 1>me the right question, pronounce it properly.

489
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<v Speaker 3>I can't pronounce it properly. That's why I pronounced it wrong.

490
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<v Speaker 3>It's a very very old word. Nobody knows how it

491
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<v Speaker 3>is supposed to be pronounced.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal e O s t r E is the tear?

493
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<v Speaker 1>Normal shape? Tear?

494
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<v Speaker 2>Is it slanty t It's not a slanty t okay,

495
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<v Speaker 2>no idea is I just wanted to make it sound.

496
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm talking about. I know Old

497
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<v Speaker 2>English had an F which was an S. True according

498
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<v Speaker 2>to this yes it is true. According to other pagan authors,

499
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<v Speaker 2>it's not true at all. But hey ho, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>history for you.

501
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<v Speaker 1>What a in a minute? Hang on a minute, hang

502
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<v Speaker 1>a minute. So it is isn't? It can't be both.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on who you talk to. There are scholars,

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<v Speaker 1>it's common that's what the university system is for. There

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<v Speaker 1>are scholars. It's actually. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The people do argue it's commonly thought as being that,

507
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<v Speaker 3>but I have sources that say it's not.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Actually, that's very gravy on milam Oh, that's mighty interesting.

509
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 1>What does the rabbit from Alice in Wonderland always carry?

510
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<v Speaker 1>It's a better batress.

511
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<v Speaker 2>You are obsessed with this sex toy, aren't you. Well,

512
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<v Speaker 2>look you know when you get get something, I need

513
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 2>some batteries. You never find batteries. There's always someone that's

514
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<v Speaker 2>called practice then.

515
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<v Speaker 1>That remember when this was written they weren't batteries back then?

516
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<v Speaker 1>When was it written? A long time ago? Before batteries?

517
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<v Speaker 2>Alice in Wonderland? Yes there's Carol, Yes, Victorian times. Yes

518
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<v Speaker 2>that batters did we Yeah, they weren't known as batteries

519
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>and they were they weren't easy to move and stuff.

520
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:10.799
<v Speaker 1>But we've had batteries for centuries before batteries were common use.

521
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<v Speaker 2>And if you're a triple A, it was a watch

522
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 2>it as it was always running late because he was

523
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<v Speaker 2>office tits on speed. That's mighty interesting. But can we

524
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<v Speaker 2>after this short break. We have Jordan Charles in Spotlight.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to during the good We've had someone knock

526
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>on our door, so let him in and it's actually

527
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Charles, so let's get to know him in Spotlight.

528
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<v Speaker 1>So welcome, thank you, thank you for having me. It's

529
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<v Speaker 1>our pleasure. So for people that don't know who you

530
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<v Speaker 1>are and what you do, you're an artist in residence. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Mill has its beautiful new fifth floor space

532
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<v Speaker 5>kind of like a multipurpose residency space, and so I mean,

533
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<v Speaker 5>I'm one of the first resident artists up there, kind

534
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<v Speaker 5>of getting to use the space to just take some

535
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<v Speaker 5>time away and make some incredible work hopefully Okay.

536
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<v Speaker 1>And so what kind of work is it that you

537
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<v Speaker 1>do while you're in that space.

538
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<v Speaker 5>So I'm a singer and a writer, and so I'm

539
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<v Speaker 5>currently writing a musical and so I've been up there, yeah,

540
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<v Speaker 5>playing around with the songs and kind of making puppets

541
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<v Speaker 5>and kind of just trying to test out this brand

542
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<v Speaker 5>new idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been Yeah, it's been a great time. Actually

544
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<v Speaker 1>you said puppets, I am very excited about. Yeah.

545
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<v Speaker 5>So we've been working with an amazing puppeteer Carolyn Adda,

546
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 5>who yeah, makes incredible puppets out of like recycled materials

547
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 5>and new new, and so we kind of yeah, got

548
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 5>her to come and work with us and make some

549
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 5>things for us. And she made puppets out of like

550
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 5>rubber gloves and like bin bags and bits of cardboard.

551
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 5>But they kind of, yeah, moved and spoke and did

552
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 5>incredible things. I think you'd have loved it.

553
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Well. First got you into the arts.

554
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<v Speaker 5>So many many years ago, when I was about four

555
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 5>years old at our school, we'd all do this like

556
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 5>arts festival. Everyone would get up and do like a

557
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 5>little poem and you don't learn the same one. And

558
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<v Speaker 5>there was this little poem about a chicken and my

559
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 5>and so we all got up and did that little

560
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<v Speaker 5>poem about the chicken, and I got up.

561
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<v Speaker 1>And did mine.

562
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<v Speaker 5>And the head mistress, who was like a scary woman,

563
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<v Speaker 5>she was a you know, stern, stern woman, but lovely,

564
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 5>she came up to my parents and she said that

565
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<v Speaker 5>one drama lessons now.

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<v Speaker 1>And the rest is history. And when did it become

567
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<v Speaker 1>a career for you?

568
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 5>It became a I've been doing it full time for

569
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.679
<v Speaker 5>about seven years now. I did a TV show called

570
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<v Speaker 5>Let It Shine. It was Gary Bardo TV show, and

571
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 5>he was kind of looking for people to play Take

572
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<v Speaker 5>That in his own musical. You might have noticed I

573
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:18.719
<v Speaker 5>don't really look like any of the members of Take That,

574
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 5>so it was a bit of a it was a

575
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 5>bit of a job. But yeah, I did that show

576
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<v Speaker 5>and I was working full time at the time, and

577
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:30.599
<v Speaker 5>I kind of tried to do the job and you

578
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 5>know this at the same time, and they basically like,

579
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:35.480
<v Speaker 5>you can't take two months off to go and do

580
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 5>this show. So yeah, with no bookings, no plans, no nothing,

581
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<v Speaker 5>I just quit my job. And yeah, took a leap.

582
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<v Speaker 1>Nice. So you took that leap, and it's all history

583
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>since then. Yeah. Yeah.

584
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<v Speaker 2>And of course during the pandemic, arts took a bit

585
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<v Speaker 2>of a pause, shall we say, just a little one

586
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<v Speaker 2>week off.

587
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 1>So what was it you were doing during the pandemic.

588
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<v Speaker 5>Well, actually, like directly before the pandemic was the first

589
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.679
<v Speaker 5>time that I came to the mill to work on

590
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.639
<v Speaker 5>this musical Audia, and I hadn't touched it for years,

591
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:11.679
<v Speaker 5>and then I had just kind of got myself together

592
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 5>to start working on it again, and I did my

593
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.039
<v Speaker 5>first little residency here at the mill, and it was

594
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 5>kind of this, you know, the start of new things,

595
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 5>big things, and that was in January twenty twenty, and

596
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 5>then obviously Mark twenty twenty. Then you know, things kind

597
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 5>of like fell apart for everyone in the arts really,

598
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 5>so I just kind of took the time and I

599
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.400
<v Speaker 5>kind of focused on other things I hadn't had the

600
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 5>chance to really look at, so I didn't do I

601
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 5>kind of I started writing poetry much more in the pandemic.

602
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.239
<v Speaker 5>I really that was really kind of something that really

603
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 5>helped me get through, especially some of the more difficult

604
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 5>early times. I kind of, yeah, just got it out

605
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 5>through poetry that hadn't written in like five years, and

606
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 5>just other things I just stuff like to get play

607
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 5>around with. I started to play around with makeup and

608
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 5>kind of created a like an aesthetic and like clothes

609
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 5>and started learning how to sew properly, and yeah, just

610
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 5>kind of tried things out. Banana bread, no banana bread,

611
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Speaker 5>but lots of baking. And because I'm I'm diabetic, so

612
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 5>there's like lots of like sugar free baking and experimentation

613
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, different things, a.

614
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Lot of banana breadur in the pandemic. Yeah, what's what's

615
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 1>your most what's your biggest inspiration?

616
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm inspired by a lot of things really kind of

617
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 5>like quite directly, especially in the work I'm making at

618
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 5>the minute, a lot of the kind of you know,

619
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 5>big musicals that we all that we all love, kind

620
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 5>of people like Alan Menkin, kind of that Golden Age

621
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 5>of Disney. But then also like inspired artistically by by

622
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.719
<v Speaker 5>people's kind of just commitment to really being themselves and

623
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 5>being their full, yeah, full authentic person, So people like

624
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 5>Genelle Monet and Beyonce, you know, kind of really bringing

625
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 5>all of themselves into the work, but it also still

626
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 5>being really beautiful and elevated and incredible.

627
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:14.159
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, particular themes that you work with or ideas.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, at the minute, especially I'm working a lot with mythology.

629
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<v Speaker 5>The show draws from europeur mythology, West African mythology, and

630
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 5>I've always been a bit of a fantasy nerd. I

631
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 5>love D and D at the moment, so like that's yeah,

632
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<v Speaker 5>that's always.

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<v Speaker 1>A big Sorry, this has just got very excited, said

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<v Speaker 1>twenty waiting for me. As soon as we wrap the

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<v Speaker 1>second round, I'll come with you.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, that big, yeah, fantasy is definitely a big,

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<v Speaker 5>a big inspiration, a big theme, and kind of tying

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<v Speaker 5>that in with my own identity however I can, whether

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<v Speaker 5>that's my blackness or my queerness, like kind of yet

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<v Speaker 5>bringing those two things together.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I'm just waiting for desperate. Yeah, he's giving me.

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<v Speaker 5>He's giving me kind of like barbarian fighter vibes, but

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<v Speaker 5>like with a heart of gold, heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Of gold heart runs.

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<v Speaker 2>So with all those inspirations that you've got and all

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<v Speaker 2>those things you can draw inspiration from, how does that

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<v Speaker 2>come across any poetry?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it comes across quite directly, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 5>because my poetry is quite it's quite conversational. It's quite

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<v Speaker 5>kind of yeah, they could almost be, you know, more

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<v Speaker 5>unspoken word monologues. Yeah, so I think it comes in

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<v Speaker 5>quite directly because I'm often speaking from, yeah, a place

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<v Speaker 5>of my own experience kind of you know, have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a poem called.

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<v Speaker 5>I Lost, which is very much just kind of me

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<v Speaker 5>and my musings about my feelings about you know, my

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<v Speaker 5>history and access to elders and queer elders and black elders,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, yeah, I think it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's there because I if I'm writing poetry, it's one

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<v Speaker 5>of the most direct forms I have of really just

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<v Speaker 5>putting my heart on the paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me say, it's about your history. What what

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<v Speaker 2>is your history? How would you describe that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Long and storied, and that's how I describe it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that the parts of my history that are

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<v Speaker 5>really important to me are, yeah, being a Caribbean person

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<v Speaker 5>living in Britain, understanding what that means historically as much

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<v Speaker 5>as I can. I'm currently reading Black and British by

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<v Speaker 5>David L. Shoga, which is about you know, the history

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<v Speaker 5>of black people in Britain going back way wait, you

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<v Speaker 5>know to you know, medieval times almost so, yeah, kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like accessing that as much as possible. And then

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<v Speaker 5>my identity is a queer person and how those two

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<v Speaker 5>things kind of like, you know, interplay and have interplay

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<v Speaker 5>throughout my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>Access the ancestors as much as possible through through what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing. In terms of your back catalog and everything

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<v Speaker 3>that you have done, well, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, you've got to get a back catalog, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>let's let's use that.

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<v Speaker 3>What's been the most satisfying the proudest thing that you've

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<v Speaker 3>produced so far.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, other than the show that we you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we had our sharing last night at the mill, other

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<v Speaker 5>than that. Very recently, I took part in a competition

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<v Speaker 5>Pride's Got Talent. It's run by Pride in London, and

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of took part in it almost almost at

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<v Speaker 5>whim really, I kind of just had some time and

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of really went for it. But then once

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<v Speaker 5>I was there, I was kind of so infused and

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<v Speaker 5>kind of really really dove in and somehow managed to

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<v Speaker 5>fool them into giving me the crowd. So thank you,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you, thank you. Uh and so yeah, kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a yeah and and and then and the final was

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<v Speaker 5>it the Adelphi Theater, so kind of big old Western theater,

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<v Speaker 5>which was a brand new experience for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, just kind of being able to do that

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<v Speaker 1>and making it through was what does the future hold?

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<v Speaker 5>The future holds spending more time working on my on

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<v Speaker 5>my own work, now working on this show, hopefully kind

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<v Speaker 5>of taking it to a to a yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>to a full production or you're on stage somewhere, and

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<v Speaker 5>just yeah, really kind of committing to myself as an artist.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's the next challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool, And if we want to find out what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing in a way up to how would we

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<v Speaker 2>get in a hold of you?

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<v Speaker 5>You can follow me at I am Jordan Charles on

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<v Speaker 5>my Instagram where you can see me doing some more

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<v Speaker 5>gay nonsense, or you can follow Obsidia Collective at we

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<v Speaker 5>are Obsidia O B S I D I A. And

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<v Speaker 5>you can find this at Obsidia Collective dot com as well,

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<v Speaker 5>where you can find all manner of things about me

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<v Speaker 5>and the musical and what's coming up next?

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<v Speaker 1>And so would you like to come back on and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the musical? If I must, I'd love to perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's almost the end of the show. Remember to

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<v Speaker 2>find us on our social media is at the cood TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for watching and we'll see you soon. Bye, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>Very excited about having me on about the musical. Yes, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.