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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, I'm welcome to ano episode of We're

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Black and Today I have got my number one, like

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top correspondent when I need someone with a good take

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in a jiffy and a break. Okay, we have Philip

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Solomon here, Philip, how are you thank you for coming?

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Speaker 2: Of of course, black blast boots on the ground, all

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three bees, let's go lujah.

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Speaker 1: So let's get straight into it. This is honestly a

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hot topics episode, but also a fashion episode. Oh fashion

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is a hot topic so always. The real house Lives of

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Atlanta reunions have dropped, and okay, I will say at first,

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when they showed like a review of the trailer, I

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was like, what is this? Where are they going? Why

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do they look like this? And also was the background

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that was not upsetting but it was just like it

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felt like it flashed. But the full version of the

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looks dropped and I am just enamored by these looks.

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So the first thing we're gonna do is literally go

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get into the looks and rate them. And you know

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how much I love, love, love a rating child, so

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I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Shoe it love a rating here. And my thing is

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I've been kind Okay, I always want to judge a

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look from head to toe, and so when everyone says

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it looks so much better standing up, I want to

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be like, listen, I'm with you. I love that, except

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we've been doing this for years. That was it's a reunion.

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It's a reunion. You're gonna be sitting down for ninety

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seven point four percent of it. So it needs to

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actually look better sitting down than standing up, because that's

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how people are gonna remember it. That's what's gonna actually air.

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Like all of us know we're gonna get the full video,

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head to toe, whatever else. But to be honest, if

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you actually watch the reunion, it needs to be a

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good look like from the made rooms up. Yep.

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Speaker 1: But because when you know better, you do better. And

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these are our veterans. These are our veterans, so they

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should know that you don't you don't have you can't

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have the opportunity to say, well, you guys, see the

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phot book. But I feel like I will make an

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exception because these are Atlantic ladies. And also the looks

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are so damn good standing up, Like, let's just get

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straight into.

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Speaker 2: It, baby. They do know how to stand up. They

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know how to stand up. Well, Okay, that's fair bare minimum. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Number one that they have on the website shah Mia,

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and this is we're not talking about the season, y'all.

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We're not talking about the season. We are talking about

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the look. We're also talking about the second round BBL

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that she is insistent upon showing us and everyone in

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the room.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I actually love the cutout and this heloette for her.

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I don't usually, but with all of this metallic and

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all of this fabric, and I think we can all

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admit in seeing her in some of her confessional looks,

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she's a smaller lady. And so if you don't give

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us that cutout and show that you have like a

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tiny waist going into those big hips, then I do

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think that, like you do lose the look a little bit.

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So I also understand why that cutout had to be there,

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just to give us a little bit of a visual

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palette cleanser exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I will say it's giving a little bit of Hella,

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a little mermaid like she's in a clam, but the

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most fabulous clam I have ever seen.

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Speaker 2: She's giving us cram on clam clam slam all day,

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every day, Okay, a clam that.

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Speaker 1: Produces pearls, Honey, we can do it. Last time I

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did the Valley Ringion looks, we did on a scale

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of five. So's this on a scale of ten for me,

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especially because I love the way that she has the

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big chunky rings going on, but it's not too much

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and she picked an updue a down de would not

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work on this. This is honestly a solid nine nine

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point five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going eight point five just because I know

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that she can serve a look standing up, but her

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Pashua when she sits does not do good things for

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this dress or for her in general. I want to

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recommend a specialist for some sculiosa. I don't know what's

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happening here, but I will say she can definitely give

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you a look standing up. I just wanted to maintain

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that level of poison elegance when she's on the couch.

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Speaker 1: And that is fair. Okay, eight point five, nine point five,

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So she's averaged out about it. Nine Angela. I am

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a fangela. This is absolutely my favorite look standing up

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sitting down. I mean I know that it kind of

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is a basic, Like I see this this dress on

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fashion nobook, but for some reason, the glam, the way

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that it just looks against her skin, the strappy size

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twelves that she puts up on. Charles, Listen, this is

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just fasty and disrespectful, Like she looks beautiful.

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Speaker 2: What do you think she looks like? And go with

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me on this one? My chocolate Jessica Rabbit? Am I

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wrong here? Like it's just like the same solutes, Helloette.

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It's the hair, It's everything that I'm like, Wait, I

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hated it, but the more I looked at it, I

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was like, wait, I kind of love it. Actually, the

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more you think about it, You're like, wait. Though for

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her age and for her body type, she's not a

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small woman, so I think this really does a lot

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to bring her in at the hips. The hair is

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covering the holders, which are again not white in general,

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but compared to some of these other smaller women could

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look Yeah, these women are right, So I totally understand

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why the choices were made that they were. It for

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me easy nine out of ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give her a nine point five for sure,

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if it closest to the ten that I think I've

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ever like given someone in at least five looks of

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remis Angela. You are everything, okay.

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Speaker 2: Miss Phaeda.

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Speaker 1: Miss Phaeda, I I like it, but I feel like

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there is a lot going on, and I don't know

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if I would have did the curtain sweat bangs with this.

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Speaker 2: I think that for me, this is my nine to

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five out of ten. And I'm gonna tell you why.

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I really she has experimented with a lot of bad blondes,

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and this blonde against this emerald, I was like, you

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finally found the good relationship. It's like she almost does

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glam from the neck up and then from the neck down,

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and they never communicate, and so I'm always like, what

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is happening? She always looks good on either one or

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the other oars separately, but this I think is one

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of the first times for her that head to toe

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the look is cohesive. I also understand why she did

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the two pieces on the side, because she opted for

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that with that low of a neck. Normally you would

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have to bring in like a chunky necklace or something

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because she's a smad woman, and so I appreciate that

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in lieu of the necklace, she was like, I'm just

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gonna give you a little bit of hair on the side,

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just to frame the makeup, to frame the mug. All

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about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I will accept that. For me, this gets my

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eight point five.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad.

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Speaker 1: It's just I think that the neckline, like the sharp neckline,

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and then we have the material is very intense, and

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then we also have a train. It's just a lot

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going on, a lot going on. But I will say

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is that it could have went worse. And she's so tiny,

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so there's so much fabric to put there. So yeah,

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it's just it's just so good. Oh we have the trendsetter.

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Speaker 2: Oh what did she call herself? One?

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Speaker 1: Carlos Kings The.

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Speaker 2: Delusion, The Delusion show for what two years? I set

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the trend here. I was like, girl, I have sweaters

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older than I have almost every piece of clothing in

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my closet that's been there longer than you've been on

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this show. Yeah, this this I think we can look

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at the intro to the show, look and that watch

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what happens live. She loves a structural piece, and I

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think that it's awful because it eats her up every time.

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She is a small little lady and to just put

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herself in a fabric retail cocoon every time that I'm like, damn,

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I just want, I think for her, I want to

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bring everything out of her shoulders, neck and roll it

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all down, and she just insists on putting things around

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her and every look makes her look like hot ursula

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every single time.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's it's absolutely too much and I

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I miss Paris, her stylist. Oh, by the way, I

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believe style Drew if I am not mistaken or at

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least it is working with you in some capacity. But

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this is it's a lot. But I don't completely hate it,

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like I'm hating her confessional looks.

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Speaker 2: And her professional looks this year. Yeah, has those boobs

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in her nose, just like like up there that I

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was like, girl, you need to breathe just a little bit.

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my favorite hairs that I've seen on her, just because

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it's it's doing a lot. It's doing too much, but

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normally it's doing three much. So I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: I will take it too. And you know what, I'm

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feeling generous, So I'm only given a seven.

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Speaker 2: Fair I will definitely go with you on that exact

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same number. Seven perfect And guys, I.

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Speaker 1: Am putting the link in the bio so you can,

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you know, rate along with us and see these looks.

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Or you can just simply type in or row of

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reunion looks and they will pop up for you if

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you're listening, if you're watching on YouTube. Hell, let us

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know what you think about these looks. Now, we have

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Dreu Sidoor as Juice a door written by Juice Door

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known as Juice Door on the game. Shout out to

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that new episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta where we

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got a pooch haul cameo, we got a game reference,

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and I just love when we talk about the game. Now.

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I will say that this is not one of my

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favorite reunion looks for this reunion, but I do appreciate

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a crimped hair, and I respect a house of crimped hair.

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Now crimped hair with this dress, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a weird relationship going on from the neck

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up versus the neck down. I think that once again

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someone else that has experimented with a lot of bad

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shades of blonde, this is not a bad shade for her.

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I actually think it does great things for her. But

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leaving it all down in the crimp against the sequence

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against the pattern against the piece under the neck right.

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There's just so many things that are happening and none

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of them are in agreement. And so although I do

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like the hair and I do like the dress, I

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hate it together for me, for sas we get it

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for me, the dress is always for her. It's an understatement,

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which is weird, but that's also because we've seen some

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hilarious shit on her. But like this for her is

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almost kind of lazy, and.

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Speaker 1: Drew, I will say, you are a dead ass wrong

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getting in that confessional with the cardigan on Don't.

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Speaker 2: Piss Me All is she gets like smaller every week.

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She okay, number one, number one this year factor they

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have her in the stairway of her own home. I

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don't know why. There's a beautiful room right off to

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the left with a grand piano and stuff, and they said,

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you get to sit in the hallway. So they gave

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her Amazon a six to wear for that confessional. And

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it gets worse every week, even though we've been seeing

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the same looks and I hate them.

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Speaker 1: I hate that card And then she posted on Instagram

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to troll us because she's like, yep, yep, I'm gonna

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own it.

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Speaker 2: No, Drew, like, don't piss me off.

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Speaker 1: But okay, just this reunion look, I dislike it. It's

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in the bottom with Kelly and Pinky, which I'm going

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easy on Pinky because it's her first reunion.

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Speaker 2: And Drew you know better.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's too much jewelry too, like it's just

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too much the hanging dangling earrings. I'm I'm sorry, but

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I have to give you a seven. And that's being generous.

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Speaker 2: Also, I think that this would look great in person,

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but being on television, once you cut your neck off,

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you have to understand like what that does visually on

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a screen. It just doesn't open you up a little bit.

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And so I think for me, I'm gonna go seven

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point five because it's safe. I don't hate it. It's

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just a matter of I don't love it the way

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that it's styled and put together.

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Speaker 1: And it's also because we have so many different looks,

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like look at this, I mean, like it's not fair. Yeah,

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I don't really have anything to say to this, but ten. Yeah,

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this for me is a solid Okay, I can't tell

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is it a bola?

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Speaker 2: Is it looking like an a? Like? Have we seen

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this in like an Instagram video. Does it move at all?

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Like I'm just trying to figure out what the okay, cool, Yeah,

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it's see how it's separated throughout. But like does that

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make me like it more or less? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's just I it doesn't look like a cheat bola though,

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Like it looks like a very Like it's the feathers

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a song.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that chicken isnked. That is an an endangered species.

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Somewhere there's some green bird walking around naked, go naked hair.

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It's that bird. But I will say I think this

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dress for her is really smart. I think she has

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the ability to look kind of square, kind of rhombassy,

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and so in taking those pieces in front and bringing

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it into the waist and like really drawing your eye in,

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I'm like, that's smart. Whoever styled her knows what they're doing.

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They know what's going to look good on television, because again,

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she is a beautiful, shapely woman. But there are times

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that on the show I'm like, I don't know who

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dressed her, and that that doesn't do anything for her.

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This definitely does things for.

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Speaker 1: Her, Like this is a title card.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, please easy?

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Speaker 1: So what did you give it though, just you need

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your number.

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Speaker 2: I want to give it a nine point five because

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I always believe there's room for growth. A nine point

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eight and that's okay.

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Speaker 1: And she looking just like Law with that waterfall called

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me tail too. Yep, look and just let your syster do.

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She just looks excellent. Pinky, pinky, pinky, you.

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Speaker 2: Have this.

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Speaker 1: I'm listening almost. I'm open for change looks.

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Speaker 2: Because all of her looks throughout the season have looked

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so I don't want to say a low budget. Instead,

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I'm gonna say fiscal. I'm gonna say pedestrian, because even

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if she's wearing a sweater and leggings, you know it's

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an expensive sweater leggings. I just think that her actual

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hilouettes are very achievable, and that's not necessarily what we

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look to a housewife franchise for. So I think that

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this is smart of her in knowing that it really

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does pull the beauty back to her hair, make up,

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the face. I think she's been trying to almost kind

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of overshadow her own facial beauty all season with these

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crazy wild things that she's and I kind of love

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how this is the first time I can say all

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season that she has looked upscale. Also, in knowing what

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we know and there is more than likely a pregnant

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housewife on her side of the couch, I will say

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this helps. This does exactly what it's supposed to do.

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So I agree completely.

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Speaker 1: So are you? You can't? You managed to change my mind?

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And I also feel gracious because this is her first reunion,

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so I'm willing to go up to seven point five fair?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Perfect? Now we have the she just announced that she

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has a country single out go stream, that she has

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a country album coming out. Go stream that because we

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are here for black people, black women in country, and

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she's talks about Beyonce been country, ky Michelle has also

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been country, So let us support, let us rally. And

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we see that that is a part of her storyline

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and that that's been a part of her storyline since

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she was on Love and Hip Hop, so she's not

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new to this. She's chew to this. So definitely support

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ky Michelle. And I also just love how simple this is.

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I mean, she's so tiny, she's another really really tiny housewife.

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I know that this might be too simple for some,

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but I feel like with the red hair, it accentuates

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that forest green, and she has sequence. The boobs are

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on display, the curves are on display. I mean she

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didn't woke it up with jewelry. I have to give

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this a solid eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I really like this a lot. I think that

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here's my thing. If you've already done reality and you've

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already done love and hip hop, this reunion look to me,

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reads very love and hip hop, and I think that

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you can make it housewives by accessorizing it properly, whether

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that is with an evening elbow length glove or whatever. Like,

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I just think that it can be elevated. I think

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this is a great place to start. But when whether

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we do an updo or we add a glover. So,

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I just wanted to look more regal and expensive. And

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I don't mean that as far as changing out the dress.

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I think the dress is perfect for her. We just

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have to do something. We got to add on something,

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bring that hair up a little bit. Because it is

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giving a the best one at a love and hip

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hop reunion.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, okay, So then what do you give it

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in rings?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, let's go eight point five. Only because she has

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been so inconsistent this season. She could have shown up

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with the three so or okay. So I'm gonna say

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this for her, I go, you know what, that's a

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real good choice our hit or miss sister. Okay, another sister, Cynthia.

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I mean, this is giving mother of.

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Speaker 1: The House flu to the show. The only complaint that

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I do have, what is this shoe?

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Speaker 2: The shoes she I don't know whether she rented them,

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where she purchases them from a lord of the rings

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clear and said, I don't know what's happening the shoes.

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The shoes. I actually didn't have a problem with the

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look like everyone else on the internet, right, But for me,

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I was like, oh but those shoes, though, are crazy.

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Speaker 1: Those are lemon pepper steppas like Cynthia I and I

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feel like, especially when you get movement on, like I

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understand this look. It's just the shoes that make it

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look like a Gotham villain. But the rest, I mean

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something you can get away with a lot due to

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the face card alone. So I'm going to give this

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an eight.

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Speaker 2: And I very rarely like cutouts, but I think she's

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super smart and how it's being used here, I think

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it carries it up right. If you close it up.

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You're like, that's too much black all I was, so

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I actually love exactly how it's used, where it is,

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how big it is, everything is exactly where it should be.

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I'm going full eight three. I feel like we are

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the same.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like these looks are excellent, ladies. Like I

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will say maybe part five of all time, especially four Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: It's Atlanta. I was gonna say, it's Atlanta. So there's

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there's a low bar in knowing that. Like even what

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we let black senior girls wear to their senior problem,

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we expect, uh, like we expect perhaps Sean nannity absurdity,

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and so we kind of let that happen. And that's

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the same absurdity that we expect from Potomac and Atlanta.

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Like we know the reunion looks are gonna be crazy

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every time, right right, good job, ladies.

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Speaker 1: I mean like I have never And then also it

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looks like I don't know what the background is, but

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in the pictures of looks that they're like in the

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reading room, like we are going to get red down.

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And I just never thought the theme would be in

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the colors warst green, gold and black, and those just

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colors just accentuated each other so amazingly.

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Speaker 2: I believe that it's an homage more than likely to

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the Scotland trip.

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Speaker 1: I believe, yes, Traders, which we did not get to

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see them.

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Speaker 2: If they show me one more scene in a trailer

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that we do not get to see, I'm making Especially

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In the City, they went hard on all those scenes

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we never saw. They Watluca. Who is Katie? They said,

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you know what, erase her? And I'm like, no, but

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I want to see something.

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Speaker 1: Oh, let us up.

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Speaker 2: How much does she know? Listen if you want to

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haegway there. I did not watch In the City all season.

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Couldn't do it. Couldn't And then I don't blame you.

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I took seven hours all day and I did it

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start to finish. And I will tell you I am

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glad that I did it start to finish, because if

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I had to wait week by week for that. It's

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one of those shows that could hold up if you

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watch it all at once. How I watched Next Gen

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NYC season one. It holds up if you watch it

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all at once. But if I had to like wait

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for these cliffhangers and stuff, I'm like, yeah, no, nope, no,

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I don't want that at all.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't hook you, So okay, give me because I

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talked about this with Ryan Bailey. Definitely go listen to

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So Bad as Good with Ryan Bailey. When we recap

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Atlanta and also recapt the in the City reunion, which

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did not need to be two parts. It could have

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been an email but anything. It should have just been

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one part, and every look there gave house. But now

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I was like, watch it Happens Live reunion. They were

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exactly where they deserved. But just your general quick thoughts

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on in the City and if and where you see

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season two going.

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Speaker 2: Number one, Ryan Belly return my DM number two. I

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think that I think, Uh, my real question is I

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have to ask objectively as a viewer, Okay, without Summer House,

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is this a show? Not really, because if you really

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think about it, if you take Summerhouse away, it can't

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stand on its own. And I say that in knowing

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that I loved It's one of my favorite transitions ever

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from vander Pump into his summer House where they literally

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went to the Summer House and Stacy and all that left,

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and then we picked up episode one exactly where they

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left off, and I was like, that was smooth. That

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was good, but it was still able to stand on

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its own. It almost kind of like introduced us to

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Summer House, then walked away in the city. Summerhouse introduced us,

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and then they stayed to make sure we were okay.

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They stayed every episode. It's a nice.

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Speaker 1: Stayed and not only that too, Literally popcorn on what

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you are saying, we are asking for more Summer House

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people if we're having a season two. That's how critical

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in the City is.

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Speaker 2: I will say, although people did not love of Jason,

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sorry I've only known him for a day. Because I

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will say, the guys other than Andrea really kept the

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show moving that I was like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so Kenny and Gavin Kenny Sorry, okay, Kenny, Yeah,

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that's only one we can keep the.

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Speaker 2: Val Also that yeah, him and Lindsey carried the show

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on their backs. And I said, okay, somebody has to

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do it. Somebody has to do it.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So for a season two, if we see it coming,

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what do you think that they need to do to change.

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Speaker 2: Either you have to bring West onto the show for

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Amanda or get rid of Amanda. But what we're doing

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now of the half and half out, don't get me wrong.

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I don't need any more Amanda in my life. But what

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I'm saying is she has nowhere to go because nobody

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likes her, and so in turn, either to get us hooked,

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we have to see those like scenes with her and

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West just like having fun, having a lunch, having something,

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or get him in off the show completely, but her

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like being there and fighting back and forth and not

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cleaning up her laundry. That's not a plot, that's not

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a storyline. You're just messy. You're a hoarder. You're a hoarder,

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and we don't want to watch it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't give a fuck. So okay, we're gonna

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veer off into some territory that of my peers are

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loving right now. We went from Summerhouse to Love Island

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and now you guys have been dropped off at the

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Big Brother House. I am not a Big Brother watcher, However,

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I love that this is something that everyone comes together

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and is the other, you know, matching point to a

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lot of social talk on threads, Instagram, everywhere you go,

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people are talking about Big Brother. We have the live

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feeds going on. Me I only know that there's a

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lot of tension and stuff was Miss Selina as Cities.

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I am a drag Race. I am a drag Race

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girl down, So that's who I'm rooting for tele pathically.

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But let me know what's going on in the Big

474
00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:04,200
brother space.

475
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,279
Speaker 2: Cool, So let's start off with ours. So just for

476
00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,599
those of you guys that are not really Big brother fanatics,

477
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,880
I'll tell you it's very much like Survivor meets like

478
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,079
the real world where they're all in a house. Except

479
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,880
here's the element that kind of makes Big Brothers special.

480
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,720
They're on a live feed twenty four hours a day,

481
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,759
so at any point you could turn on Paramount Plus

482
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:26,519
and see what they're doing in the house. That's good

483
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:30,200
because you don't really get the edit once, like when

484
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:33,599
they filmed my show, or they film Survivor or whatever else.

485
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:36,880
They know who already has won it, so they can

486
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000
go back and do a hero edit, a villain edit

487
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:43,000
or whatever else. Even drag Race, you know who's confessionals

488
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:44,960
to use weighing more of because they end up in

489
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,319
the end. For this show, they are only giving us

490
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,799
episodes twelve hours behind what we're seeing, so in turn,

491
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,200
they're editing it as we go. It's very much like

492
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,480
of Island in that there's no such thing as a

493
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,480
good or bad edit. We just get all the information

494
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,680
and we kind of make the choices for ourselves. So

495
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,960
there's no real hero or the villain. So with that said,

496
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720
because there's no real hero or villain, there's a lot

497
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:12,039
of downtime. These people kind of become your friends when

498
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:14,240
you're like cleaning the house and leave the live feed

499
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:16,359
on and they're just like talking about shit, like in

500
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,720
the living room and you're just like there without having

501
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,480
just like me. Right, No, honestly, it's great, Like that's

502
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,440
why I love listening to like a podcast because it's

503
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,720
a conversation I don't have to participate in and that's great.

504
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,880
And so it's that. But I will say miss Selena

505
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,920
from drag Race is in the house as Jason. He

506
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,519
didn't want to play as a drag Race also, to

507
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:44,200
be honest. To be honest, ABS being one of the

508
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,799
more conservative networks, has not made any mention of drag

509
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,279
Race or any real mention of the effect that he

510
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,440
was on another show. But there are contestants that are

511
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,240
just like everyday people like you and me that have

512
00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:00,519
also been on drag Race based games American but because

513
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:02,839
they're not on CBS shows. We're not acknowledging it. We're

514
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,559
just gonna pretend like they're normal people. And so the

515
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,839
current thing with Jason is that, and this is a

516
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,440
discussion that I think you can even hop in on.

517
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:18,119
He is the only like per okay, he is one

518
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,759
of the only few people of color on the cast,

519
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:28,400
and he is the only real LGBTQ representation. And because

520
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,680
you're cut off from the outside world, no TVs know anything.

521
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,960
They are in there for three and a half months.

522
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,599
They don't even There are weeks where they're doing challenges

523
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,880
in the backyard, so they're not not even a lot outside,

524
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,880
and so they lose their mind in there, just like

525
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,160
not seeing hunlight and stuff, and they're playing twenty four

526
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,359
hours a day. He's lonely. He's real lonely. And there's

527
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,880
a meme going around right now of him. He's crying

528
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,480
and he looks up at the camera and he says,

529
00:28:56,519 --> 00:29:00,400
I miss gay people. And I'm like, yeah, literally, when

530
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:05,000
you've surrounded yourself as an adult with a community that knows,

531
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:08,119
he supports your whatever else, and now you're with all

532
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:11,400
these people from let's say conservative areas or the Midwest

533
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,839
or whatever else, and it's just a matter of like

534
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,640
they don't get you, and even worse so they don't

535
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,839
want to and you're just there and you're like, ah,

536
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,920
it's it's hard to watch, Like I want him to

537
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,599
stay and I want him to do well, but a

538
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:26,079
part of me, you know, when you're like, I want

539
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,480
him out. I need him out of there. Yeah, because

540
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,319
I don't think it's doing good things for his mental

541
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:32,119
health right now.

542
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, at what costs. I hate to hear that, but

543
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,759
that is that is real, and I'm rooting for whatever

544
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,039
outcome they want. I mean, I think that they are

545
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,599
making history right on the show. And I also saw

546
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,359
that there may have been like an not an offhand comment,

547
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,240
like a clment that someone was like, oh miss me

548
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:56,319
with that drag queen shit or something like that.

549
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's currently being targeted by a UFC fighter

550
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,720
in the house, which like again when they say when

551
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:07,200
they say they're like casting real people, that's a guy

552
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,720
from the uf And you're like, Okay, this is not

553
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:09,519
a real person, but.

554
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like like you're I would be like, this

555
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,440
is the guy from General Allen, Like, Hi, what do

556
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:15,799
we talk?

557
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,359
Speaker 2: Not regular people? He's just regular people, just regular people

558
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,240
who just hang out in the UFC ring anyway. So

559
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:28,799
and he is very much just like like any straight

560
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,519
broie Joey. That's like messing with that drag stuff. You'll

561
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:33,559
never catch me to dress or whatever, and like they

562
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,279
don't realize that. Like that's the thing with this show.

563
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:40,279
A lot of people have been canceled because there's no edit,

564
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,759
like there that's why I can never be on this

565
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,960
show because I say things too quick without thinking about

566
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,799
it and thinking like, oh well, they'll like they'll never

567
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,279
use that in the edit. And there is no edit

568
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:54,400
because the feeds are alive, so they are dropping things

569
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,039
and saying things that you're like, I wouldn't say that.

570
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:02,000
And like even one of my amazing black queen's on

571
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:06,039
the show is a special ed. She's a guidance counsel

572
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:09,880
at an elementary school and she said she said to

573
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,839
one of the girls that was acted up, she said, listen.

574
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,119
And this was again not in like a house situation,

575
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:17,839
just like a very casual conversation that she was like, listen,

576
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,359
I don't know anyone that acts like that that does

577
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,640
not have an IEP. And I was like, oh, like

578
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,480
again that that would not have made the edit normally

579
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,039
in any other show, but because it's a live feed,

580
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:30,839
I was like, this is not gonna go well. And

581
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,599
so like it's one of those where like as an

582
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:35,240
educator you can say that, and so like it's just

583
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,400
it's hard because you want to real lives, but you

584
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,039
can't edit them anymore.

585
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: One thing about me, you get me in that house,

586
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:46,279
that whole show might be taken off here.

587
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: So you'll know when the CBS editors lose it because

588
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:54,839
mid sentence, mid word, they cut the feed and they

589
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:57,160
put up a Big Brother. They'd be like, you know who,

590
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,440
I hate Big Brother? Anyway, up there we go, help

591
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:01,000
somebody it. Somebody caught it.

592
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Every time they might want to delay it by like

593
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,240
five ten minutes before.

594
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,119
Speaker 2: Literally every season someone's like, you know what, women need

595
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
less of logo. You're like, yep, there we go. There

596
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,319
we go, and like someone was said, you know what,

597
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:18,680
this is not gonna end well. I don't know how

598
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,079
it's gonna end, but it's not gonna end well. So currently,

599
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,920
on this day, about a half hour ago, there is

600
00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:28,759
that same UFC fighter that is targeting our girl had

601
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:31,960
a video reservice from his own Instagram, like this is

602
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:35,920
from his Instagram and someone in the background is saying,

603
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:39,720
I can't breathe, and he says on this Instagram video

604
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,880
he looks and he goes, can't breathe. She's just like

605
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:48,960
George Floyd now again in his head, he thought that

606
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,839
was hilarious, and like, my issue is, I was like, listen,

607
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,200
I think a lot of things are hilarious that I

608
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:57,319
know I cannot say outside of my own head because

609
00:32:57,799 --> 00:32:59,960
you don't know who it's gonna affect or who's gonna

610
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,519
especially in going on to a reality show. Can I

611
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:07,680
tell you when I was in final auditions for The

612
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,279
Circle on Netflix, they went back and scrubbed my socials

613
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:15,640
from years ago because I think I told you this story.

614
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,240
Apparently I had a bunch of really aggressive tweets towards

615
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,319
Jordan's Sparks in two thousand and nine, and I don't

616
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,119
know why, because I've never met that woman. I've never

617
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,200
met that woman. And the producer was like, what did

618
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,519
you have Againsten Sparks? And I said, what do you mean?

619
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,319
And they say they pulled up the tweets and I said,

620
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,559
I don't know who that was, Like it was ten

621
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,240
years earlier. I don't know what it was, but something

622
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,400
about that woman she said one step at a time,

623
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,039
and I said no, no, Jordan Sparks, and so I

624
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,640
went back. I deleted it. But still there are so

625
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,400
many things on social media that you have to be like,

626
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,480
people are going to be looking at me. You gotta

627
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,000
scrub it, you gotta clean it up.

628
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I think that this comes down to

629
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:03,119
also a huge producer in this stup because as far

630
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,920
as twenty twenties was six years ago, it was literally

631
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:12,800
just twenty twenty. And also that's on his Instagram. That's

632
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,159
what I'm saying. When people are doing casting for whether

633
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,679
it's Housewives to Love Island, you can literally get a

634
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,599
person for ten dollars an hour just to scroll down

635
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,960
and just watch or look or read. Just on playing

636
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,840
social media, because this isn't like it's a resurface video

637
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,960
from a paywall or a snapchat of a person. This

638
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,599
is you just told me this was on.

639
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: There was the man's highlights. No, no, no, it was in

640
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:42,920
the highlights.

641
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: You could clan, not just say Instagram highlights. He thought

642
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,400
that was so funny that he was like, actually, this

643
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,599
was a great day. Let me let you put that

644
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,199
fort day highlights. I would love to see the Big

645
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,119
Brother logo and it's just him without out of the

646
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,480
house point right period.

647
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: But like so I don't know if the show's going

648
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,920
to do anything or whatever else because again, this has

649
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,039
all happened within the past hour, so I have no

650
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:08,559
idea what's going on coming.

651
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:11,679
Speaker 1: And that's what's so good about Big Brother that I'm

652
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,719
seeing now that like, right now things are happening between

653
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,199
I miss gay people, they need an iep and now

654
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,719
this horrible, not even funny thing that's going on. It's

655
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,440
just like, this is who they are? Tell me what

656
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,519
what is I've never known what is the voting element

657
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:30,039
of it? All?

658
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,679
Speaker 2: Cool? So every week there's a head of Household, So

659
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,880
like you win a competition, it airs every Sunday, but

660
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,760
we know that the head of Household normally happens on

661
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,639
Saturday mornings if you watch the live feed, and that

662
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,519
whoever wins that gets to nominate three people for a anniction.

663
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,960
Then throughout the week they campaign and stuff to try

664
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,519
and convince the other people to not vote them out.

665
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,199
Then every Thursday night, a cast member is evicted from

666
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,079
the house. And so really it's so this UFC fighter

667
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,719
is the head of household for this week and Jason

668
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,639
Slash Helena has been nominated and so now we wait

669
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:18,079
a few hours to see if she will stay in

670
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:18,880
the house.

671
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: Wow, because it literally is as we record, it's Thursday,

672
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,800
almost eight pm. So we'll be finding that out very

673
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,360
soon and keeping us updated.

674
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: Ch'all.

675
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay, Well, one last hot topic because

676
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,079
I just wanted to come on here in yeap like

677
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,199
I love talking to Philip, so good for my soul.

678
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,239
You guys also love our chemistry. They always are like, hey,

679
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,760
you and Philip are leasing together. So that's why I'm

680
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,119
just like, hey, are you ready, Like what's going on

681
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,519
there every day? Quickly? Have you seen devil Ware's produ two?

682
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: I have not, and I'm gonna tell you why. My

683
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,840
hot take is, I haven't seen devil Ware's product one.

684
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,239
And I believe in not being a trader and one

685
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,559
of those that only sees this equel because I think

686
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:03,000
it's weird.

687
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: That is weird. I just want to oh a public announcement.

688
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:13,320
It's now streaming on Disney Plus both of them, if

689
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,960
not if the first one might be on HBO Max,

690
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:19,159
but just for you guys, just like it's just such

691
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,480
a good fun watch if you are a fashion girl,

692
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,760
if you're an Anhatholy girl negga, if you are a

693
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,800
Lady Gaga girl, like, just it's a good watch. And

694
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,159
I think that it's there is something to say. It's

695
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,880
not necessarily a positive thing because that's what was supposed

696
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,079
to be, Like this was supposed to be moving with

697
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,320
the year, and it came out, it had its big moment,

698
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:48,440
but was the moment really big enough? So much so

699
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:52,679
that it skipped the whole rent Us for twenty dollars

700
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,559
and went straight to Disney, like you just watch it

701
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:57,039
on Hulu. So that's just something I want to leave

702
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:00,000
you guys to ponder with. But lastly, we got Taylor

703
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:06,599
Frankie paul Taylor Frankie Pauling. She posted a photo of

704
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,079
things that she collects, and we know that she is

705
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:15,199
in a very heated fight custody fight with both of

706
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,960
her baby daddy's ghetto one being her ex husband Tate,

707
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,400
the other Dakota. You know, Dakota Koto's recently gone to

708
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,119
public with his girlfriend Shanaya, friend of the cast, So

709
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:28,079
because he got to get a storyline, the way that

710
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:34,000
he can. And on the photo that Tanna Frankie Paul posted,

711
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:40,920
she kept a letter from Dakota and posted it when

712
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,639
people were just like, what are you doing? Not only this,

713
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:48,400
has this man treated you terribly? He going back to them,

714
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,800
We already know that, but now you're at the point

715
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,480
where you are literally battling for custody of your child

716
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:59,199
and they even the most recent update in the custody

717
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,599
is that she rejected an agreement that will give her

718
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,760
some more time with her kids. But I believe that

719
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,760
there's more to that. I think that Dakota and Tate

720
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,719
have both been running to the blogs, and I do

721
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,599
think that they are in kudes point blank period. But

722
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,920
with that being said, why add this fuel to the

723
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,679
fire If you're trying to paint this person out to

724
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,320
be the abuser, which, of course, like I believe that

725
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,079
there was abuse on both sides, A terrible person who's

726
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,599
trying to keep the kids away from the mom, Why

727
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:32,039
are you posting a picture? And even like, if keeping

728
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:35,039
the love letter is one thing, but posting it is another,

729
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,119
do you think it was motivated by him going public

730
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:40,159
with his new girlfriend? Who's the friend cash?

731
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,519
Speaker 2: And I I just think that there has to be

732
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,039
reality television rules of engagement the same way that you

733
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,239
know that, Let's say, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Once

734
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,920
Derry posted those text messages from Kyle before the reunion,

735
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,519
once the actual screenshots go up, you know that relationship

736
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:06,800
is over. I just think you could argue and yell

737
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,639
and scream all day, but once you start posting evidence,

738
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,519
I think it gets icky and gross, and then we

739
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:18,320
lose that trust between is it for the show or

740
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,519
is it like an off camera situation. What's hard for

741
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,119
Taylor is that she makes all of her money off

742
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:29,599
of online in engagement and outrage. That is her job.

743
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,440
That she doesn't know how to do anything else, and

744
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:35,840
so in turn, it's hard to get that engagement when

745
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,800
all she's doing is going to rehab and going to

746
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:43,000
counseling and bettering herself. So as much as I say

747
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:44,800
this is a hot mess and nobody needs to see it,

748
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,360
do we want to see her doing pilates and going

749
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,559
to see a therapist? Probably not so. I guess I

750
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:54,440
understand to get your money, get your bag, But like

751
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,880
it is also very telling that no one on the

752
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,280
cast really posts with her. They didn't want to shoot

753
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,159
the second half of the season with her. Like, I think,

754
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:06,559
if you have to look around and there's nobody there,

755
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,639
you have to now look in the mirror and be like,

756
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:10,679
what did I do? Where am I in life?

757
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: Reflect?

758
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:14,119
Speaker 2: Reflect? Please?

759
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,599
Speaker 1: I think the thing is that I get with Taylor.

760
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,320
She's of the mind that all publicity is good publicity

761
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,280
and this is my job. But this is now bleeding

762
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,320
over to her personal life. If you are arguing in

763
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,440
court and trying to get your kids and saying, hey,

764
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:33,000
this is my abuser, he's done X, Y and Z

765
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,800
and he's keeping me away from my kids, you do

766
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,000
not then go and post a love letter that he

767
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,360
wrote you. That seems like it would hurt your case.

768
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:44,519
So that is the mind that I'm at when it

769
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:49,159
comes to this, And Taylor just learn how to literally

770
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:56,159
decipher what is going to generate headlines without hurting you

771
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,440
having a relationship with your kids that you are bitterally

772
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,000
fighting for.

773
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: Literally at this you just have to learn to have

774
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:08,840
problems that match your age. Every time I see her

775
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,840
having an issue, I go, these are some twenty three

776
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,199
year old as hell issues, and like, she's not twenty

777
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,519
three anymore, Like it would be the same, like the

778
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:21,000
same way that like the Lalla that we're watching now

779
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:26,639
is having thirty six seven eight year old like like

780
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,400
problems and issues. If she was still that ten years

781
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,519
ago one, I'd be like, that's an issue. That's why

782
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:36,320
we can't stand Jax Taylor and Tom Saneville because they

783
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,079
haven't evolved, and we're looking for that level of evolution

784
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:43,719
out of her, which we still haven't seen. Something it might.

785
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,760
This is also where it gets weird with the whole

786
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:51,159
like Utah religion thing. Something stunted her maturity and her

787
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,679
growth and between the housewives and her and whatever. There's

788
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,719
something that does not let those women evolve and move on.

789
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,840
And I don't know what it is.

790
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,559
Speaker 1: I don't either, child. I mean speaking of really quickly,

791
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:10,760
while we're talking about obviously the Utah Mormon Wives, Sina

792
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,519
allegedly wanted to be on the Secret Lives of Mormon

793
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:20,000
Wives after that vander Pump Rules break, and I was

794
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:24,480
I say to you, Shena, think bigger. You are literally

795
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:29,440
connected to each and every franchise on Bravo. At this point,

796
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,599
if she says she knows somebody Potomac, you know something

797
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:36,239
about Potomac Gina, you are bigger than this. And I'm

798
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,840
not saying that this show isn't big, It's huge. It's

799
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,360
changed Hulu, It's changed the way people are putting out

800
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,440
their shows. They're all on Dancing with the Stars, they're

801
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:48,639
starting production companies, they're doing everything. But Sina, be better.

802
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,079
This girl is desperate. You have your own brand. She

803
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:56,559
can have, just the way that Satzi has a show

804
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:58,639
right now that's on that I will not be watching.

805
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,920
That we do not fuck with at all.

806
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: I literally was like, we didn't forget number one, number one.

807
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,760
We did not forget.

808
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,679
Speaker 1: Like I don't care how much pr and how many

809
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,199
black people you put at the beginning of the show.

810
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,559
It's fucked Stossy over here, the same way that she

811
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,559
has House of Stossy. Imagine what you can do on

812
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,119
your own, baby girl. And if you don't want to,

813
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,840
the Valley is always right there and we can use

814
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,559
you right now. And I say this as a fan

815
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:27,119
of the Valley who was continuing to talk about it. Okay, stop, Shina, Shae.

816
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,199
What do you think about that?

817
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:32,199
Speaker 2: You want better for her and I want worse. I

818
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,280
think that it's so funny and like the Okay, my

819
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:39,719
example is I was on Threads last night, as per

820
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,559
your recommendation. I'm on there every night doing my homework,

821
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,519
my thronework. I'm on it on the threads and someone

822
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:54,559
someone started a thread that said do celebrities even read Threads?

823
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:59,440
And there were no responses from like anyone notable and

824
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:03,480
she she writes the hands up emoji and she goes,

825
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,159
I'm right here, and I go, girl, that's what I love.

826
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:12,880
I love that she will go to the opening of

827
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,239
a paper bag like I love that for her, And

828
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,239
she will bring her own photographer with her make up

829
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,760
a red carpet, like I love that for her because

830
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,679
I just think that that is so all of us

831
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,840
when we're like trying to stay relevant but we still

832
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,960
want to like look cool. She doesn't have that about her.

833
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,760
She doesn't want to look cool. She wants to be like,

834
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,920
hey guys, I'm still here. Like I think that's hilarious,

835
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,400
and that's my favorite thing about her. She said, well,

836
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,440
Rock was Mormon once, I could be on that show

837
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,320
and you're like, no, baby, that's not how the show worked.

838
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,519
But like still you're like, you know what, thank you

839
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:48,159
for trying though, thank you so much.

840
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have our opinions split. I'm gonna know

841
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:54,920
it sounds like you're a yes, you would love to

842
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,519
see her own seco lasm Mormon wives.

843
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: I need to see her in all the places she

844
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,199
does not belong. Top you have Project Runway, give it

845
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,440
to me, Discovery Park Week, swimming in the ocean. I

846
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,679
don't care. I don't care. I want to keep seeing

847
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,159
her on things that she has no business being in.

848
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that for you know what Forina means right,

849
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:17,639
because that's what she wants.

850
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:22,039
Speaker 2: It only works for her. I'm like, that's the brand. Duh.

851
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:24,519
Speaker 1: Oh God, I love you so much. Thank you for

852
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:27,480
coming to chat with me. Tell us where and what

853
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,039
can we can do to support you?

854
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: Always amazing. I am always on pretty much every form

855
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,320
of social media. You could either find me on Instagram, threads,

856
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,559
or at Costco like a normal person. Hit me up

857
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:40,920
on anything, including only fans. I don't have one yet.

858
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,760
I should, though right now I'm not gonna do that. Yeah.

859
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,559
Speaker 1: Well, I was saying with that body, I.

860
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,599
Speaker 2: Have a black mother, get out of here. Absolutely not.

861
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,039
She would. She lives in New Jersey and even in Austin.

862
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,400
I feel someone like snatched me out of nowhere like

863
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,679
I don't know. No, I can't be doing that anyway.

864
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,360
In the meantime, Instagram, y'all, I'm sorry about it. I'm

865
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,039
sorry about it. At Philip Solomon hit me up, whatever

866
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:05,320
it is. I respond to whatever it is. If you

867
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,280
want to talk reality, if you want to talk anything,

868
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,000
if you're just like yo, listen, I'm having a rough day,

869
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:10,559
I got you.

870
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: Not a problem, perfect, all right. Well you heard Philip,

871
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:18,159
you heard me. Follow me at blah blah blah black

872
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,199
stream this, and we have bad free episodes on Patreon.

873
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: Always.

874
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,119
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for anyone who is new here,

875
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,159
old here has been rocking with me. Thank you, We

876
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,679
love you, and we'll see you next time.

877
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: Bye bye,