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this stuff, So thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 1: The healthcare the port is having a massive, massive effect

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on society and men and boys, but it is having

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a brutal effect on ULTI many girls. Haidie Olsen joins us.

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There's a link in the show notes. She is a

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sexual assault nurse examiner. And Hei, do you welcome to

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Chad.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you tackling this issue and just being willing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. And I guess it's hard.

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the top of the show is if we have the

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Holy Spirit in us, it should be uncomfortable, shouldn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: I don't want to think about the ramifications that this

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to dig into that job, the sexual assault nurse examiner.

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a sexual assault survivor and really, when I just closed

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what was happening to me, it was not handled well,

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believe or really even accountability for my perpetrator, who, as

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becoming a forensic nurse, to feel like I want to

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trauma like this and say I believe you. How can

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this and in a more uh documentary sense with some

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secret is out, maybe the worst and best day.

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injuries after a sexual assault, and research shows about ninety

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when we can create safety in that moment as well.

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doing a very good job of that, and that in

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Speaker 3: Will be uncomfortable for people.

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walks with the lord, and I imagine that you also

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Speaker 1: And so how do you do that? How do you

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start touching their body? They just had their bodies touched

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which is that I am praying, I am covering myself

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in Jesus's blood, and I am spending time with the

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Lord as I'm driving in because this is a spiritual battle.

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God doesn't love me, he doesn't see me. If he did,

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sexually assaulted is one of the most evil things that

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of establishing safety is giving people a choice. So if

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you know you deserve to be safe. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: So I've had to.

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Speaker 5: Learn over time I cannot let my own experience or

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Speaker 3: Do you have a share that you were assaulted with kids.

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Speaker 5: And the reason that I don't is not because I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, my wife has helped, and this may

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sound like a distraction, I promise it's not. My wife

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and I have helped a number of families flee states

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like Washington and Oregon in California where their kids were

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on the virgin being medically kidnapped in order to be

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tranced chemically surgically I referred to as mutilation, and in

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that help was so frustrating for people is early on,

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when this was happening to kids and to families, no

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they wouldn't do that. Our doctor offered to do a

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she's actually a boy, I'd call her brave.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? You should be celebrating this. So

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this was the establishment being completely untrustworthy. Parents have to leave,

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you can't have your kid around this stuff, and then

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to your role as a sexual assault nurse examiner where

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Speaker 1: Societal blockades, or people saying haven't the kids have enough?

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Speaker 3: I always hoping you were going to say, oh no,

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Speaker 5: Yes, there's multiple layers of i'd say barriers that I

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have experienced in this work, and so from not having

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support from an institution to kind of being pushed out

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of jobs, you know, for speaking up and wanting to

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create change and do the right thing. And you know,

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us to universally screen kids for trafficking because we have

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and when we screen them, well, we finally get a

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lot of disclosures around for an exposure, you know, being

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groomed online from you know, actual trafficking disclosures. It's really

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important to ask kids about that. And just being told

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this is not a good use of our resources.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, you just you were asking to ask questions.

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Speaker 5: Right right, and our nurses wanted to We had the capacity,

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we had the will. You know, it wasn't gonna hurt

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anyone in the hospital. No one's gonna be asked to

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do a job they didn't want to do. Just could

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be coming and do this, and we're told it was

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not a good use of our resources. So it is

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mind blowing the pushback we get. I've talked to many

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other hospitals kind of trying to get them on board

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with these types of screening questions or education around you know, pornography, exploitation, trafficking.

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is going to create a revenue for us if not

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Speaker 3: This is going to create a revenue.

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Speaker 5: So no, probably it's not going to create a tangible

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revenue to recognize trafficking victims in your hospital.

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Speaker 4: But is it the right thing to do?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: And they say no to it? So, uh yeah. I

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Speaker 5: I also get pushbacks sometimes just from people doing this

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work and that they don't think some of the issues

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got in my evaluations was I felt like I was

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dragged to a Southern Baptist convention against.

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Speaker 4: Why will no?

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Speaker 5: And I So I will say, in those settings, you know,

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Speaker 4: Or professional, I don't talk about my faith. I don't.

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Speaker 5: I purely approach this from a research standpoint, because I

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know that's tim going to get by in is to

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say here's all the research, here's the anecdotal eviand and

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here's what we're seeing frontlines.

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Speaker 4: It's real, right, like.

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Speaker 5: There's no religious there's no political affiliation with any of this.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's so horrible to hear.

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Speaker 1: I was really hoping you'd say no, no, no, But

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Satan is always always working.

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Speaker 3: But God wins in the end. And I could see

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why Tim wants to run his coffee company.

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Speaker 1: He's CEO Bone Frog Coffee founder there because there's no

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one shooting at him. We checked off on these things.

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Do you ever have IDs go off in the office, No,

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not so far. Do you ever have people shoot it

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you on the way to work?

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Speaker 3: No, not so far.

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Speaker 3: So the discussion about pornography.

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Speaker 1: You and I were talking before the show in the

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green room and I hope that shrimp was good.

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Speaker 3: I hope that was okay for you in the steak

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and all that.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about your LLC helping companies and organizations.

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I want to talk more about that. I asked you

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if you ever helped churches have prepared them to have

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conversations with young people about porn and sexual trauma, etc.

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shying away from this absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I think honestly churches might be the worst offenders in

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some ways. Wow, where you know, we we raise the

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issue and they're like, yeah, no, we don't need to

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talk about that. It's not an issue here, not our kids.

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No one here has ever struggled with that.

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Speaker 4: Just to really, I.

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Speaker 5: Think having their blinders on and not wanting to address

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the issue. And so that's been really disappointing because you know,

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churches have an opportunity to be on the front lines

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bringing healing and redemption and truth to this issue, and

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they're not, I mean far and few between. Some churches are,

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but most churches are not, and so that has definitely

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been a disappointment in terms of.

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Speaker 4: Getting buy in. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're told to be watchers at the gate

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Christians who abide with christis an old testament, a piece

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of scripture.

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Speaker 3: But we are told to.

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Speaker 1: Warn when we see, when we see spiritual dangers coming.

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We're told in I think my wife pulled this out

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the other day Proverbs, that we're told to speak out

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for those with thoughtful effectively. And I don't know that

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there are more silenced people than kids who are being

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sexually assaulted or trafficked in the spiritual danger. My goodness,

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this can, as you said, keep people apart from Christ.

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and Jesus said, causing these little ones to stumble on

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the way to him.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 1: I don't often get flabbergasted, but I guess I'm just

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lucky to be a member of a church and volunteer

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with kids at a church where we do talk about this,

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but people exist, pastors exist who say, oh, no one

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at our church suffers from this, and no one at

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our church looks at porn.

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, And I think there's even a disconnect when

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it comes to understanding how porn impacts men and women. Right,

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it might be like, well, some of the guys in

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our church struggle with porn, but definitely none of the women,

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is even being impacted by pornography. We have to be

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realistic and address this. And I think there's multiple layers

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why the church is not addressing it. But if you

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look at statistics around how much of the church, congregation

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and even pastors are consuming porn, that absolutely plays a

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role in it, right, But we don't want to address

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something we feel a lot of shame about and don't

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want to go there. But I think there's also a

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huge generational gap. If you are talking to you know,

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church leadership that didn't grow up with internet porn the

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way that millennials and Gen.

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Speaker 4: Zs are, they don't get it. Right, Like sometimes it's

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like it's not that big of a deal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I saw Playboy once, you know, a long

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constantly being inundated with very hardcore pornography that just pops

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up in front of you. Like this is a totally

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different animal that we're talking about with the internet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we can I don't want to get into

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the salute and specific, but we can talk about some

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of the dynamics of what hardcore means today because hardcore

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of the day I met something. People who praise God

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have not seen this stuff. I have no idea what

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hardcore means today. I told you i'd share a bit

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of good news with you.

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Speaker 3: So I will.

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Speaker 1: And this there's a lot of pastors who listen to

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the show and thank you.

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Speaker 3: You guys have a hard job.

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Speaker 1: And Satan is all over you and your families, and

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we should hold you up in prayer, and thank you

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for listening or watching the show. I appreciate any way

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you choose to consume the show. Let me tell you

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about some of how this bears fruit and how do

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I hope this is this is helpful for you. A

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mom got in touch with me and my partner John,

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John's a lot younger than me, and.

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Speaker 1: And she said, hey, you know, I'm really asking you

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to pray for my son. He has relapsed in using

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pornography and vaping, and and this kid was in a

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tough circumstance and we'd even talked beforehand, how are you

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going to avoid these temptations? And so.

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you know, hope you guys can interact with him.

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Speaker 1: And from time to time I'll take kids aside, just

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have one on once because I never get to do that,

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and so it's not unusual. So I pulled this young

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man out and said, hey, we're gonna have a one

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on one today and sat down. So, hey, so what's

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going on with you guys? Well, I relapsed with porn. Wow,

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thank you for sharing that with me. And how did

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you feel about it? I felt sick. And so we

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processed this and what was Satan saying to you? He's

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the same thing you said, He'd say, it's just once,

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and so you know, how can I help you.

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Speaker 2: Be?

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe an accountability partner, and do you have that, Beau. Yeah,

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you know, I've told my mom now that when I

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have temptation, I'm going to go to her.

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I I used porn last night, and I'd like you

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to take my phone away from me for while. And

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he confessed to the vaping. And he said, it's so funny, todd,

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because it wasn't even fun. It wasn't even fun. I

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just felt sick. I felt sick while I was doing it.

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I don't you know. I don't know my dad. So

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I told my mom and I told him thank you

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for sharing that with me. And I talked later to

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his mom and he confessed to you, Oh yeah, I

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forgot that part. That's how I knew. Now that's part

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of the good news. The second piece of good news

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about with a young kid who is clearly addicted to

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video games, clearly, and I was giving him this challenge,

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don't use a video game for five days, and he

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was pushing back, and this this young man who confessed

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to the porn usage, raised his hand and I go, yes,

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I may I speak into this? I said yes, and

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he looked at the other kids and they're from very

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different backgrounds. He goes, may I speak into this with you?

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so for me it has to be none, and maybe

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for you it needs to be none, because if it's

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just hard for you to not do a stupid video

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game for five days, it might need to be none.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, thank you for sharing that.

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Speaker 4: It's so encouraging.

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Speaker 5: I love kids, they're so incredible and yes, it's like

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they surprise you in the best ways.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, pornography is there's no upsides to it. What

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it does to our brains, our relationships, you know, there's

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just looking at it here and there is never going

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to be a healthy behavior. It's similar to like, is

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you know, doing meth here and there good for our bodies? No,

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it's never before us and absolutely we know it's addicting.

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brain and give us those chemical releases where we want

478
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to go back and do more. And so yeah, it

479
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is one of those things where it should be nothing,

480
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no partaking at all, in my.

481
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Speaker 3: Opinion, and I totally agree. I couldn't agree more. And

482
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when you.

483
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Speaker 1: Step away from this and through the glory of God,

484
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and I don't say this prideately, please understand I have

485
00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:28,680
shame that I ever looked at this stuff. But it's

486
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been well over twenty years. And the reason I stopped

487
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was I realized that I was watching people being sex trafficked. Yes, right,

488
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Oh my gosh, I can never do this again. I

489
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,839
want to get into these conversations about how your organization,

490
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,880
your company helps people, and organizations have these conversations, schools

491
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,279
and other groups and churches. You know, I'm at a

492
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,119
church where we talk about this a lot, and so

493
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in that way we're really blessed. But you mentioned what

494
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is hardcore today. My wife and I have these conversations

495
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,519
from time to time that the boys have been programmed

496
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:13,799
by computers and hardcore porn to have certain expectations of

497
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,440
sexuality and sexual interactions.

498
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,839
Speaker 3: And you see the results of these with girls. So

499
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,079
what are some of the results of these?

500
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, like you said, I will not

501
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,880
give any graphic details, but if you're not familiar with

502
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,000
what's happening.

503
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Speaker 4: Online mainstream porn.

504
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Speaker 5: The algorithms on these sites are set for men who

505
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,400
have been looking at internet porn for the last ten

506
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,000
twenty years. So when someone goes on to Pornhub, it's

507
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,279
set for here's the person whose brain is so desensitized

508
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,079
to this content. We have to show you something really shocking,

509
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:51,319
really violent, So your brain is that same chemical release.

510
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,000
And so when the eight year old stumbles onto a video,

511
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they're getting the same algorithm set for the forty five

512
00:25:57,839 --> 00:25:59,519
year old male. You know, it's been looking at this

513
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:06,880
since and so it's extremely violent. It's very degrading and horrendous,

514
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,519
and there are absolutely torture type incest rate fiend. I mean,

515
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,279
the worst things you can imagine are just right front

516
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:17,200
and center. And so it's not just a kid seeing

517
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240
an image of a naked person. It's very very violent.

518
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,200
So of course, if we have a young kid whose

519
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,000
brain is not even fully developed watching this content and

520
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:29,240
no one has talked to them about this or even sex,

521
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,720
this is setting your sexual template. So we think about

522
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,119
a boy I've been watching this for years. When I

523
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,319
go to have sex with someone, I'm going to emulate

524
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:39,680
what I'm seeing important because I think that's what girls like.

525
00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:42,640
So it's going to be very violent, it's probably gonna

526
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,759
involve strangulation, it's going to be very degrading. There's no atonement,

527
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,880
there's no looking at this other person and are they

528
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,359
enjoying it? You don't learn that important. There's no learning

529
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,559
about mutuality or consent. It's very consumptive with females. What

530
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:02,960
they're learning is I should enjoy being degraded, I should

531
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:06,039
enjoy violence, I should enjoy other people watching this. I

532
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:09,599
should exploit myself because that's what I'm seeing from girls

533
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:12,799
and pornography. And so if this is what's setting kids

534
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:16,599
sexual template, this is really confusing. So even think about it.

535
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:17,920
So you have kids who are great up at a

536
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,960
Christian home, maybe they've never had sex as anyone, but

537
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,920
they're both looking at porn. They get married and have sex,

538
00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:25,839
what's that sexual encounter going to be like?

539
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: Right?

540
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 5: Probably kind of traumatizing and confusing and not fun and

541
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:33,519
isn't going to feel intimate because it's this porn world

542
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,279
that they're playing off of and think that those expectations

543
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,400
are what they should be doing. And so a lot

544
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:43,359
of sexual damage is being created in kids across the

545
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,319
world because of this.

546
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Yes, and I remember that you shared an instance with

547
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,599
us on the American Fender radio show about a brother

548
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,119
and sister.

549
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you talk about that.

550
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 4: Sure.

551
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 5: So there's just huge rates of child and child sexual

552
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,400
assault happening that is porn and influenced. So we see

553
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,119
a lot of kids who are watching pornography over and

554
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,799
over and over again, and then they're acting it out

555
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,400
on other kids. And this is backed in research. If

556
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,519
you look at research, there is absolutely this relationship between

557
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,559
kids seeing porn and then they act out what they see.

558
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,400
Of course, kids have mirror neurons in their brain. We

559
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:20,519
know they copy what we do. Of course they're going

560
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:24,960
to copy what they see online. And so this instant

561
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,079
I was referring to as a twelve year boys actual

562
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,359
assaulted as five year old sister and the dad walked

563
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,160
in and saw it, so there was no question about

564
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,319
what happened. Absolutely horrendous situation. And the parents told me,

565
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:38,079
you know, we have found violent pornography on his phone.

566
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,759
Is this related? And it was like ding, the light

567
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:43,680
bulbs went off for me, of like, of course it's related,

568
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,599
and that for me was a huge catalyst and starting

569
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,200
to ask kids about pornography, because I'm just seeing such

570
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,039
huge correlations and causation between the kids sees porn, then

571
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,079
they act it out and harm another child, and so

572
00:28:58,119 --> 00:28:59,960
there's this ripple effect of trauma happen.

573
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, And there's there's so much research on this.

574
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:08,039
It's it's unavoidable. The neurological changes, the pathway changes. You

575
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,480
talked about, the mirrored synapses, and these learning behaviors that they're.

576
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:14,319
Speaker 3: Also the destruction of marriage.

577
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: And it gets away from kids, but the destruction of marriage,

578
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:20,720
the confusion of people on gender. You and I talk

579
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:24,359
briefly about sissy hypnoporn, which is very purposely aimed at

580
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,400
boys to make them want to be like.

581
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: Girls, so they're the sexual objects.

582
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: All this stuff just straight from Satan's design to mock marriage,

583
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,119
to mock becoming one flesh in marital union, to mock

584
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,599
all this and so very clear from this, and I

585
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,559
wanted to get with you now to talk about how

586
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:46,759
we discuss porn. We'll do this in just a second,

587
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:48,880
and then I want you to talk about what your

588
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,240
company does and how people can work with you, and

589
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:56,240
hopefully churches if you're listening this is happening, and I

590
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:59,720
guarantee there are kids in your congregation. Unless you are

591
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,920
five people in a home church, I guarantee their kids

592
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,480
being impacted by this in your congregation. Now, I've been

593
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,359
talking about getting down to renew healthcare, and I shouldn't

594
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:11,400
say this as someone who's in business with them, and

595
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,440
I shouldn't say this is someone who gets a share

596
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,559
of revenues from people who go down there. That's our

597
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:19,759
business arrangement. I haven't been able to schedule the time

598
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:24,720
because I am not psychologically well enough to sit on

599
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an airplane on a ramp for six hours. And this

600
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,359
has been happening to people, and I recognize that. I

601
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,640
know there's reasons that people aren't going down. So let

602
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,359
me just give you this heads up. This is going

603
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to come to pass.

604
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Speaker 3: It'll be over.

605
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to go down for the anti aging protocol.

606
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,599
So this can turn out to be good news for

607
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all of us. If you're interested in the anti aging protocol,

608
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this male clinic level look at your body, starting with

609
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an epigenetic analysis of your aging, looking at all of

610
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your organs, the performance of your organs, us greeting you

611
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,640
for cancers, et cetera. They will then take that information

612
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and put together a plan for you. They'll present it

613
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to you how much it will cost. It's not cheap,

614
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but then again, dying painfully is not cheap, and not

615
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being able to live life to the folk.

616
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Speaker 3: Extents is not cheap.

617
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Speaker 1: And you get something else, you know what helps you

618
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financially to come back with the three to five things

619
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The three to five things you focus on huge money saver.

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Speaker 3: You go to the.

624
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Speaker 1: Doctor, doctor recommends something like this. You could say, hey,

625
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is it within these three to five things? I don't

626
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think so that's going to be my concentration. So be

627
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the CEO of your health. Come back with the plan

628
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and the things you can do at home, and get

629
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this set up now so that when this travel thing passes,

630
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and it will, you and I can all go down

631
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together and have a great time making sure that we're

632
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the CEOs of our own health. Go learn about this

633
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the patient ambassadors will help you. It's renew dot org

636
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,279
healthcare telling me you're part of the Todd Herman Shaw family.

637
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,920
When I had a super uncomfortable conversation once with my

638
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,279
mom when I was a kid, my dearest friend at

639
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:13,880
the time had moved away and he bequeathed to me

640
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,759
a couple of penthouses and some playboys because he was

641
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:18,680
moving he didn't.

642
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: Want his mom to find these things.

643
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: So lucky me, I was bequeathed this pornography and I

644
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,240
hid it, I thought. And I came home from school

645
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,160
one day and my mom had them laid out on

646
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,759
the kitchen table, centerfolds and everything. And I walked in

647
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:39,680
and said, all throws away, and she said.

648
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,839
Speaker 3: No, no, no, sit down. Let's go through these together.

649
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: And she looked at some of the pictures with me.

650
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:53,400
Do you think that women enjoyed doing this? Probably not?

651
00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:58,319
She read some of the deer Penthouse. I never thought

652
00:32:58,319 --> 00:32:59,200
this would happen to me.

653
00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,359
Speaker 2: But.

654
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: She goes, do you think this is the way sex

655
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:03,880
really is?

656
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:05,799
Speaker 4: No?

657
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: And we went through that process. She closed the magazines

658
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,440
and she said, well, those are yours to do with as.

659
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:18,279
Speaker 3: You wish, and that through them.

660
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: Why now that sadly was not the last time I

661
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:24,400
ever looked at porn, but that was a very effective

662
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,599
way to plant a seed of I have a mom

663
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,960
and other female family members, and I'd never want to

664
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,880
seem treated this way.

665
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: So when you talk to churches or.

666
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: Youth groups or youth organizations or schools, what have you,

667
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,640
how do you coach them into talking with kids and

668
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,319
others about porn and trafficking, et cetera.

669
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, you know, I think when I I'm sure

670
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,480
it was mortifying having that moment with her mom want

671
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:57,440
me to say, but.

672
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,119
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for recognizing that it was absolutely the

673
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,519
most horrible thing I can imagine.

674
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:07,359
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, but I appreciate that she didn't shame you. Right,

675
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,760
it was like, Todd, You're a horrible kid. How could

676
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,079
you ever be attracted to this? What's wrong with you?

677
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,599
Because that is not helpful. And the reality is that,

678
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,199
of course, there isn't a lord to porn like we

679
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,400
I think, sort of clutching our pearls and being like,

680
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,920
how could anyone look at this?

681
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,199
Speaker 4: Not helpful.

682
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,079
Speaker 5: I think the reality is when we approach it from

683
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,400
a standpoint of we know it's everywhere, we know everyone

684
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,719
sees it. Let's have a conversation. You're not a horrible

685
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,639
human being if you see it or if you're drawn

686
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,639
to it. But here's how it's harmful. Here's why we

687
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,119
don't want you to see it because it hurt your brain,

688
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,639
your body, your relationships, It impacts our relationship with the Lord,

689
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960
and so we want better for you than this. But

690
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,800
we get there's an appeal here and that you are

691
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going to be exposed to it.

692
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: All over the place.

693
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 5: Your friends are looking at it, it's online, it's popping

694
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,400
up on your phone. So let's talk about how to

695
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,920
handle that. So really it's taking the shame out of

696
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,599
it and doing it in an age appropriate way. So

697
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,920
what I will tell different groups that I'm working with. So,

698
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:13,440
for example, I just did a big conference in Birmingham,

699
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:18,000
Alabama last week, and the conference was for frontline responders,

700
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:21,519
healthcare workers, and therapists. And what we thinked about was

701
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,920
how do you assess the kids you're working with on

702
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,119
this issue and how do you treat them if.

703
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,159
Speaker 4: They've been exposed to porn?

704
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 5: And so some of the pointers I was giving them

705
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,440
was obviously in an age appropriate way. We want to

706
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,239
screen every kid who has access to a device for

707
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,800
porn exposure. So if mom and dad are handing three

708
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,880
year old the phone, guess what, we need to have

709
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,159
some level of conversation with the three year old because

710
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,440
there is a high chance they're going to be exposed.

711
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:48,440
And so you know, with three year old, of course

712
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,000
you would want to say something. You don't even have

713
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,079
to use the word porn. Write something like, hey, if

714
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,559
you ever see a picture of someone and they're not

715
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:58,360
wearing clothes where your swimsuit goes, tell.

716
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Speaker 4: Mom and dad.

717
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: It can be that simple, really short touch points here

718
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,480
and there. It's not going to put an idea inside

719
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of their head. They're not going to go type people

720
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,199
without clothes on into their brows are most likely it's

721
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,159
just like oh hmm, okay, thanks for the information. When

722
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,599
we don't get super excited and you know, emotional about it,

723
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,440
just kind of like okay, not a big deal, just

724
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:20,440
putting this out there.

725
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 4: They're not going to be curious about her.

726
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,519
Speaker 5: It's like, oh this is a big deal and everyone's

727
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,400
freaking out that it's like, oh, well, should I go

728
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:29,840
look at it?

729
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: Because everyone's got feelings.

730
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think kind of learning different ways and

731
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:39,480
there's tons of resources, you know, if anyone wants to

732
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,000
reach out to me after this, I'm happy to send

733
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,920
you specific resources around all this. But so so learning

734
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,199
how to do it at a young age, and then

735
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:51,880
obviously those conversations become more intentional and more clear the

736
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,239
older child gets so when they're at an age where

737
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,880
really you can have detailed conversations like a fifteen sixteen

738
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,480
year old, they understand what sex is at the point,

739
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,519
just short touch pain points maybe while you're you know,

740
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,800
driving to go get dinner, right, you don't have to

741
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,519
make eye contact with each other. It can be Hey,

742
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,039
remember what we talked about with porn You know, have

743
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:12,159
you seen anything lately?

744
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 4: How do you have any questions for me?

745
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 5: You know what's hard about growing up in society where

746
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,400
everyone's looking at this. I care about that, So I

747
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,360
think there's lots of ways we can approach it as

748
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,119
a professional. What I will say with teenage kids is,

749
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,960
I know a lot of kids learn about sex from pornography.

750
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,039
Have you ever seen pornography or been shown pornography? You

751
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,239
would be shocked the amount of teenage girls that are

752
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,280
because that's primarily who I'm interacting with. Yes, yes, yes,

753
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,400
everyone looks at porn. Yes, my boyfriend's sends it to me. Yes,

754
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,480
I've seen it. Yes, I've been shown it on the bus. Yes,

755
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,159
my perpetrator showed it to me right before he assaulted meat. Right,

756
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,119
everyone's being shown this content and then you know, thank you,

757
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,159
thank you for trusting me that information. How that make

758
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:55,760
you feel? You know, what questions do you have for me?

759
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 4: Again? Taking the shame out of it.

760
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,679
Speaker 5: When we have child where we think there is problematic

761
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:05,199
por news, right, so addiction type of behaviors, right, they

762
00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:06,920
just like the kid who were saying, who can't go

763
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,079
five days with that video game, the kid who cannot

764
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,199
be without their phone, who has to look at porn

765
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,119
all the time. It's impacting their body, their brain. Obviously

766
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,320
there has to be intervention because they're now following, you know,

767
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,039
an addictive pathway in their brain. There has to be

768
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,599
some intervention there. But for the kid who's seen it

769
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,199
once you know, and feels terrible about it, that does

770
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:27,880
not mean it's going to ruin the rest of their life,

771
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,079
right that there's plenty of evidence to show they'll be

772
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,000
just fine.

773
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,559
Speaker 4: You know, we don't want them to see it, but

774
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:35,400
they will be Okay.

775
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be the end of the world,

776
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:41,639
but talking about it and creating safety is really.

777
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 4: One of the biggest things that we could do to

778
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,000
bring healing.

779
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's well said. Let's talk about this.

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784
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786
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Speaker 1: Started to talk about energy being the buy and one

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791
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792
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a risk multiply for all of this.

793
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795
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802
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future results Trek twenty four, Dash four seven. There is

803
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anydear to the porn soaked kids who've had access to

804
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this their whole lives. It's not as common, but I've

805
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:15,559
run into cases where for the first time it's happened

806
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:18,320
to me and youth group that we talk about pornography.

807
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,360
This literally happened with a fourteen year old boy as

808
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we were talking about pornography after a sermon in relation

809
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to God's plan for our bodies and marriage. We had

810
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a discussion about why do Christians date. We date because

811
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we want to see if we are going to get married.

812
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We don't date to have sex or we don't, you know,

813
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date for fun. Certainly, we go hang.

814
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Speaker 3: Out with people groups of people, so we.

815
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Speaker 1: Can see how people interact with other human beings of

816
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the opposite sex. But when we date, it's intentional and

817
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,000
we define the relationship. I'm dating you because I want

818
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to see if I want to marry you or if

819
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we should be married, if you want to marry me,

820
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and the topic of pornography came up, and a fourteen

821
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year old boy raised his hand and said, I'm so right.

822
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: What is pornography?

823
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:07,639
Speaker 1: And I said it is videos of people having sex

824
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:13,079
and he said, people watch that, and every other boy

825
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:16,440
in the room, I mean, they were startling laughter. I said, hey, guys,

826
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,519
right safe place. Yeah, and they stopped and I said, well,

827
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praise god, you've never seen it. So I guess my

828
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,760
question is I have concern that you can go so

829
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far in shielding your kids and protecting your kid and

830
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,599
being a helicopter lawnmower parent.

831
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Speaker 3: Guilty right here, that you.

832
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Speaker 1: Set your kid up for the first example of this

833
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:47,400
or a predator or an overly sexualized friend to say, no,

834
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this is really cool.

835
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Speaker 3: Let me show you.

836
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Speaker 1: And it's not to glorify it or to make it

837
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this super secret thing. But do you think parents should

838
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,400
warn all kids, even though sheltered homeschool kids should know

839
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that this stuff exists.

840
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 5: Yes, And thank you for bringing that up. That's such

841
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:06,639
a great point because it does create a vulnerability when

842
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,519
kids are not armed with the truth. And so I've

843
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seen that even with parents who push back on like

844
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,159
sexual abuse prevention, you know in schools of like, well,

845
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,559
my kids opting out of that because I don't want

846
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:19,880
them to think about sexual abuse. And it's like, okay,

847
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:22,599
so if it happens to them, god forbid. I do

848
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,159
not want that to happen to your child. But if

849
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:26,840
it does, they're not even going to have language to

850
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,079
be able to disclose to you what happened. And I

851
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,519
think there's this fear with parents, well, if we talk

852
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:34,920
about it, it's going to make them more curious. And

853
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:38,719
research actually shows the opposite happens when we talk about

854
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,360
it again in an age appropriate way. So we're not

855
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,440
giving them all of these you know, details about hey,

856
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:48,559
go google this thing. It's hey, this exists, and here's

857
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:51,280
the downsides, and here's why we don't want this for you,

858
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,039
but we want you to be armed with it. And

859
00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,800
here's how you know, people try to groom kids online,

860
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,159
and here's the dangers that are happening. You know that

861
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,119
we're seeing that sort of our ripple effect of all

862
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the porn exposure.

863
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Speaker 4: We want you to be safe.

864
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: That is not going to drive a child online to

865
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:13,320
go look up sex, right, And so yes, it is

866
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
a huge vulnerability when kids don't know. Because say that kid,

867
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:17,960
the one who said I don't know what porn is, right,

868
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,199
what happens when you go off to college. You now

869
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,920
away from mom and dad. Everyone in your dorm is

870
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,480
looking at it, they're showing it to you. They're traumatizing you. Right,

871
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:28,559
you have no skills to know what to do with

872
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:31,480
this information. And so we want to arm our kids

873
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:34,039
before they get to that situation. And I know how

874
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,239
to reject this. I don't have to participate. I don't

875
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,360
have to be traumatized by it.

876
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well said. And I think parents have reasonable fears

877
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:41,760
in a lot of government.

878
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: Schools these days because say, you know, we used to

879
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,119
live in the what I call the separate country of

880
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,639
Washington State. They pretended they were passing safe touch legislation

881
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:58,199
when in fact, I mean the most unspeakable sexual activities.

882
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:01,800
They were going to teach kids with this curricula up

883
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:08,360
to an including blood play. And they actually had exercises

884
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,360
where you were graded at your efficacy at talking another

885
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,320
student into having sex. So truly saying things like, well

886
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,079
we can use contraceptive, well I don't have one, Well

887
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:21,639
we can use.

888
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: Non microwavable saran wrap.

889
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: Wow, and you can use that as a dental dam

890
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:31,960
And they actually said in some of this curricula, if

891
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,800
you're not ready for full sexual intercourse yet, it's a

892
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,599
good idea to get in a hot bath with a

893
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:39,679
friends and embrace, because this is an important form of

894
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:45,960
intimacy that truly teaching kids this stuff and you've seen

895
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,039
I'm sure some of the books that make it into.

896
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,039
Speaker 3: School libraries, et cetera.

897
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: I asked a law enforcement officer who works with international

898
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:55,679
police forces to stop international sex trafficking.

899
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: His name of Jim Feuda.

900
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Speaker 1: I asked some showed him some of this curricula, asked

901
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,039
him out. He goes, this is is a sex traffickers dream,

902
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,559
This is a pedophile's dream. So have you seen I've

903
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:11,960
seen a statistical increase in teachers being arrested for sexual

904
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,400
interactions with kids, for raping kids. I guess I don't

905
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,920
even know if I have a question here other than

906
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,199
you talked about safe touch and sexual assault prevention. But

907
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,079
parents need to be on the lookout for this stuff

908
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:28,239
and their schools too, right, And I mean, I don't

909
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,400
even I don't have a question there other than what

910
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:31,320
do you observe with that.

911
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:35,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great point. So you know, it's like

912
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:37,880
that there's vulnerabilities, two sides of the same point. Right,

913
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:40,599
Not talking about it's creating a vulnerability, But when we

914
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:44,239
approach it through this feels like grooming. What you're describing,

915
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,519
that's also creating a vulnerability. And so there's a healthy

916
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:52,440
way to approach all of this that is not normalizing

917
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,920
sexual contact between children. And so there's absolutely ways to

918
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,039
do that where it's not going to create more curiosity

919
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:04,800
or harm towards them, and it's not encouraging to do

920
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,079
for them to do things that they're not developmentally ready

921
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,400
or should be doing in this you know, context of

922
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,760
being a young child. And so yeah, there's a way

923
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,000
to do it in a healthy way. And I think

924
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,800
both things we're describing are not the way to do it.

925
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,559
But I would say a couple of things I've observed,

926
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so I see a lot when we kind of talk

927
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:25,760
about the different books that exist, there are some very

928
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sexually explicit, sort.

929
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Speaker 4: Of young adult teenage books that exist.

930
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 5: We all know this, and I've talked to so many

931
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,599
girls where that's where their porn addiction starts. They read, Yeah,

932
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:40,159
they read this content. Of course, it's arousing, it's meant

933
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:42,719
to be. They go online to google the sex act

934
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,400
that they've now imagined in their head.

935
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Speaker 4: Now they're seeing porn. Now they are.

936
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 5: Starting to go out to that visual stimuli. And so

937
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,360
those books can absolutely be a gateway into looking at

938
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,719
online porn. I've heard it many, many times from girls

939
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,280
or adults who now said, yes, as a teenager, this

940
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,199
is what's my intro into it. So I do think

941
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,760
those books absolutely can be very dangerous. But also, yes,

942
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,440
we're seeing this massive influx of young female teachers being

943
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,639
arrested for sexually abusing boys. I mean, if you're paying

944
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,039
attention to the headlines, because I do with my job, right,

945
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:22,360
I mean just massive influx, which I mean, there's so

946
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,199
many layers to it, But in my head, I wonder

947
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:31,920
what layer like or what level of pornography exposure is

948
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,800
playing in all this. With these females, you know, they're

949
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twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, they've probably grown up

950
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,159
looking at internet porn for the last ten years. Now

951
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,400
are they so desensitized they're grooming their male students and

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acting out their sexual fantasies? And how much of this

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has typed to their own addiction to pornography, probably a lot,

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because we're just seeing this massive increase in female perpetrators,

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and porn is often a part of their abuse. They're

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snapchatting naked pictures to these boys and filming their assaults.

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And I'm the following what we see with a lot

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of male perpetators. These females are now doing. And so

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you wonder if porn is kind of flipping the script with.

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Speaker 4: Some of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is why for me talking to men

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and women, this is a zero involvement thing. Don't be

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around it, don't touch it.

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Speaker 3: There is no little bit.

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Speaker 1: And if this makes you uncomfortable, because I've got from

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time to time doing national radio, I've had men contact me.

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You sound like a prude. There's nothing wrong with looking

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little porn. I'm not married.

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Speaker 3: What should I do? Well?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you haven't been gifted with marriage, here's

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one thing that's not going to get you married is

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looking at porn. And by the way, God's probably not

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going to want to trust you with his daughters. I mean, yeah,

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you might meet a porn addicted woman and then hey,

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guess what, you guys can separate yourself from God together.

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But yeah, there's a lot to this topic. So the

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link to Heidie's company is in the show notes. The

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link to the AFR documentaries there. And if you're a

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church and you're avoiding this issue, man, please pray into

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that because you're told to be watchers at the gate

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and you're chose. This is a spiritual danger. And if

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you're an organization with questions, get in touch with her,

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be a great speaker at one of your events, etc.

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Speaker 3: Just a coach.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, Heidi. Thank you for wearing the armor

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God as you do this stuff, and thank you for.

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Speaker 3: What you do in your career.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely my pleasure. This is the Todd Herman Show.

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Speaker 1: Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please

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make every effort to walk in a lot of Christ