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to the hotline and welcome in. Bill Seals, publisher of

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Cycling Report On from the ON three network. He's also

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the PA announcer at Urbandale Jayhawks, the official Urban Urbandale Jayhawks.

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Speaker 3: Love this Jayhawk Nation? Bill, How you living?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, guys, Appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you hopping on.

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Speaker 2: Interestingly enough byu heads into ames. Yes as an undefeated

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Yes is almost a top ten team. Yet they are

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not favored in this game two and a half point favorite.

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Vegas is not in the I guess win loss prediction game.

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Speaker 3: They're in the betting game.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of Iowa stay being favored in

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this game?

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't make much of it, to be honest.

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It's surprising to me. They must know something that I

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don't know.

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Speaker 4: You know, I I know what I've seen from this

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team the last couple of games. You know, it was

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not good.

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Speaker 5: Particularly at Cincinnati. They struggled to stop the run. That

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thing got away from them really quick. They couldn't claw

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back in and Colorado probably one of the worst efforts

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out of this team that we've seen this season. And

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and you know, a team that that was one of

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the least penalized in the Big Twelve, and I think

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in a national scene as well. And they just the

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last two weeks have just been very uncharacteristic out of

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this team. A lot of mistakes and just not winning

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in the margins, I think. And on the flip side,

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you know, you look at BYU, They're doing the little

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things right now, they're winning in the margins and Iowa

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State not doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this, uh, this game is going to be an

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interesting one. Even ESPN Analytics only given b YU a

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fifty four chance of victory. This could be another one

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score game. Iowa State has lost two concentcutive games, but

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these have been close games, have they not?

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Speaker 5: Well, the Colorado one, I would say so the Cincinnati won.

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The final margin was that Iowa State got a late

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score in that, but they were down I believe twenty

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four points at one time in that game. If my

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memory serves me, correctly. They were down big at the half. Yeah,

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I think it was thirty one to seven was the

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score at half in that game, and they had to

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claw back into that one. And I wouldn't really say

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that one was close. It might have been in the

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final margin, but it didn't feel all that close to me.

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Speaker 2: So the scoreboard tells a different story than what actually

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happened in these games. Cincinnati got to win thirty eight

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to thirty. Colorado got to win twenty four seventeen. Both

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of these games, though interestingly enough, were on the road,

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not at Trice old that Iowa State does not lose

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thrice at Jack Trice.

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Yeah, I believe that the figure now is

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nine out of our last ten that they wanted home,

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and they've really they've they've taken care of business at home.

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And I'm not discounting that this game was a credit

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to Iowa State fans. This game was sold out. I

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think within twenty four hours after that loss against Colorado

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that they announced this thing was a sellout. So the

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fans are far from giving up on this season with

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a couple losses, with the injuries starting to mount and

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things just not looking too good going into that bye week,

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but yeah, it's still going to be a lively atmosphere.

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Tomorrow it's homecoming. They'll induct some former athletes into the

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Hall of Fame, and yeah, it should about two thirty

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pm kickoff too. It's going to be a beautiful afternoon

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for football for sure.

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Speaker 2: Talking Iowa State psychlotes here, you're on ESPN the Fan

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with Cyclone Insider publisher Cyclone Report Bill Seals. Bill, what

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is it that Iowas State does well? What is their identity?

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What is it that they are looking to maybe improve upon?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that's kind of evolved a little bit

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as this season's gone on. I think early the identity was,

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no doubt it was Rock Obec. It was a team

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that had a couple of really great tight ends they

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leaned on pretty heavily. Going into the season. A lot

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of the talk was on Rock Obec. Now Here of late,

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run the ball a lot better than they have last season.

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of found a little bit of an identity there. They

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they got believe it was one hundred and seventy seven

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yards last game out of a Boo Sama if you'll

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in Provo a couple of years ago. He's probably won

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the Cougar fans remember, and they had two hundred and

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thirty four yards on the ground in that game.

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Speaker 4: So they've been able to go to that.

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to need to go to that

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again tomorrow just to keep Dyu's offense off the field.

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They're going to need to establish that a little bit.

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to figure that might be the case when they break

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in pretty much an entirely new receiving corps of a

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Jaden Higgins Jalen Knowle, both now with the.

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Speaker 4: Houston Texans were.

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Speaker 5: Drafted by them, and a pair of two.

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Speaker 4: One thousand yard receivers gone.

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Speaker 5: So it's been a lot of you know, those guys

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just really struggled though going into the bye week, so

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there's been a lot of uncertainty kind of who's going

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to show up each week out of that group. So

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now for this cyclone team.

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Speaker 2: Running the ball effectively versus a BYU defense that's pretty

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good in the run game. Now, they did give up

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their biggest rushing total last week versus the speedy, a

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you know, outside run game of the University of Utah.

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the weaknesses right now of the Iowa State team that

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you think that BYU will try to expose that maybe

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other teams the last two weeks have been able to expose.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 5: I think the inability to stop the run consistently. They

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got it under control a little bit in the second

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half against Cincinnati, and this just the first half was horrendous.

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Colorado had a little success there. And Dominic Orange, the

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anchor in the middle of that three three five defense,

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probably not gonna play tomorrow. He's got an ankle injury.

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that's what they're going to try and do anyway, And

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and injuries, I would say that's kind of presented a

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big time weakness for this team. And it seems like

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it's all been on the defensive side of the ball too.

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I mentioned Don Orange the secondary. That group from what

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the start of this year, it's an entirely different group.

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lost a couple of safeties moved moved on, graduated, and

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then they lost their two starting quarterbacks from the start

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of this season, so they've got two entirely new ones

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there that going into this year had little to no

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experience at Iowa State. So I think there's a lot

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of weakness is on the defensive side of the ball,

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and much of that probably attributed to the injury bug.

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Speaker 2: Right now, so the injury bug here with Iowa State.

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What's the latest on the injury report? I know you

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elaborated on it a little bit here, but like, why

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is it that i Always States has so many injuries and

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who's coming back this week?

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Speaker 3: Do you think they can make an impact?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they had a lot of injuries at the

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linebacker position last year. That was kind of the position

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of choice, and they went out in the off season

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and hired a new director of sports medicine, and supposedly

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he had done some great work in the off season.

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this season. It has kind of been the same old story.

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John tes Williams Jeremiah Cooper. Those guys both out for

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the rest of this season.

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Speaker 4: They won't be back.

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Speaker 5: A couple of guys that will be back though this week.

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a one A one B at running back right now.

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then he was out against Colorado.

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Speaker 4: He should be back.

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Speaker 5: A depth guy in the secondary. Kaijon Cummings Coleman, he

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had started a couple of games early in the season,

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had missed a couple.

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Speaker 4: He should be back.

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Speaker 5: So getting a little bit of that depth back in

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the secondary, but still nothing to kind of make up

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for the losses that they've had at the at the

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cornerback position.

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Speaker 3: What is the Kyle.

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Speaker 5: Conrart too, got ye get a placekicker. Kyle CONRARTI he

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is expected to be back as well. He'd been dealing

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with what I had heard was like a hip flexor

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type of injury there, and he had missed multiple games

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with that. But with the luxury have in that second

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bye week, they have gotten him back and I expect

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him to be ready to go tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Love that breakdown. Yeah, what what's the biggest concern right now?

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Would you say? Is it the is it the special teams?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: It sounds like the offense has actually been pretty good

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all things considered.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's the defensively, that's where the

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main concern right now is.

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Speaker 4: And they've been running.

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Speaker 5: This three three five scheme, had a lot of success

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with it and had the personnel to fit, but they've

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just been bit by the injury bug the last couple

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of years and they're just not able to get into

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a lot of the packages and some of the things

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that they want to do out of that. And when

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they're they're so experienced on the back end, that affects

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what they do on the front end, and they're not

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going to leave those guys out to dry in the secondary,

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that front six. So I think defensively, run defense. That's

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the biggest concern I think if you're an Iowa State

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fan for tomorrow and them being able to stop that, uh,

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that two headed monster with with Bock, with you know,

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LJ and with with Bear running the ball, It's going

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: So what has the coaching staff of Iowa State and

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your insiders discussed in their preparations for BYU, Like from

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a scouting report standpoint, what have they articulated about their

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concerns heading into this game.

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Speaker 5: With against by You said, yep, yeah, I think I

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think just the mobile quarterback. It starts with that. That's

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been a thorn in Iowa State side defensively. They faced

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a lot of these guys this year, quarterbacks that could

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think six to seven games last season, the last six

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really struggling. Rocko and the and the wide receivers not

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really on the same page. And you wonder there b

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that turnover margin and and what they've been able to

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do turning teams over this season. I think that's another

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area concern. Iowa State's really going to need to to

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Speaker 2: On Saturday talking Iowa State with Iowa State Insider, hearing

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to know the faux segment and we're breaking it all

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down b YU versus Ioways stayed here on your Utah

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cyclone football. How do you see this game playing out?

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Give me a score prediction. What do you think happens

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Speaker 5: Well, I think this is going to be another one

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for Iowa State played in the in the twenties. I've

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actually got the Cougars winning this one by seven. That's

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why I was saying when you asked me about the

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points spread at the start of this segment, why I

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didn't I didn't see what Vegas is seeing in this one.

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Speaker 4: I think that just that Cougar.

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Speaker 5: Run game and what we've seen out of this Iowa

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big area of concern for me. And the Cougars are

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doing a great job winning, you know, turnover mart or

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the time of possession in battle. That's not always a

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telltale sign for how a game's gonna go, but I

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is going to try and do offensively, and that's you know,

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grind out those lengthy drives, keep the ball in the

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hands of Bachmeyer and and.

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Speaker 4: The run games.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's going to be the difference in

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this game, I've got at BYU twenty seven Iowa State twenty.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know Kugarnation is optimistic, but also cautiously optimistic.

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Speaker 3: Is I've mentioned it's hard to beat.

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Speaker 2: I always stayed at home and at Jack Trice, and

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currently I always states five and zero all time against

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the Cougars. So they're on five game winning streak and

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it's a natural grass field. BYU doest play on a

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natural grass field as well. But last time in twenty

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twenty three, when Ioway State came to Lavelle, they made

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by you look silly on their home field, right, And

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I do B what you. I know b Yu remembers

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that there's plenty of players on this team that would

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like nothing more than to to gain revenge at Jack Trice.

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But when was the last time that Iowa State under

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Matt Campbell lost three times in a in a row

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or lost on their home field.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been Uh, it's been a while. They they

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did have that that one loss last season. They had

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a two game losing streak last season and one of

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those happened to come at home. And I think that's

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been the only blemish that they've had over over the

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last couple of years. So yeah, actually it was Yeah,

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Texas Tech beat them in Ames last it was November second,

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So it's been almost a year since Iowa State lost

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at home and Texas Tech won that one game by

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one point last season in Ames.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And I really don't think that this team's much different

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than the recent Matt Campbell teams.

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Speaker 3: They just had a few injuries, in my opinion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've had a few, so yeah, and

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everything started off great, gosh, they.

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Speaker 4: This was the healthiest that they've been in a while.

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They had all their guys.

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Speaker 5: They started off the season in Ireland and looked really

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good against Kansas State. I don't even I think that game,

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it seemed like it was a lot worse than the

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more lopsided, I should say than what the final score was.

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And they just they go and they win five games

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again in a row to start a season. But now

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again the injuries are starting to mount and the defensive

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side of the ball just decimated, and you know, not

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to mention what they've dealt with in the kicking game.

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I mean, they had an offensive lineman do a kickoff

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at Colorado.

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Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: That's just how decimated they are have been at the

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kicker positions. So that gives you an idea what they've

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Speaker 3: From a recruiting standpoint.

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Speaker 2: How would you evaluate the recruiting under Matt Campbell from

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a recruiting ranking standpoint? Development Like, what's the talent level

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last one have not been good. To be honest, I

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think a lot of fans have been We're hoping for

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better results coming out of that eleven win season a

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year ago. Right now, they're fifty seventh nationally in that

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twenty twenty sixth class. They've got nineteen commits, so this

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class pretty much soul.

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Speaker 4: I think the story.

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Speaker 5: Has been some of the de commitments that they've had

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and this one thing that you mentioned how the recruiting

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has been under Campbell. I think it's been identifying great

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talent early and they've locked up a lot of these guys,

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but they've had two of them that they've lost, both

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to SEC schools over the last few months that would

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have been cornerstone pieces of this class. Jet Tamala out

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of a Nebraska flip to Alabama, and then also Bryce

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and Wessell flipped to h to Missouri alignment. So otherwise

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this class probably a lot a lot of spots higher

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than fifty seventh in the last year's class.

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Speaker 4: Kind of in the same boat.

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Speaker 5: But you know, Matt Campbell will be the first to

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tell you he doesn't look at doesn't look at star rankings,

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and they he trusts his own staff to do their

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own evaluations.

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Speaker 4: They don't care about all the outside noise.

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Speaker 5: But that's kind of on a national scale, that's the

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probably the perception right now.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Matt Campbell flirts with any job opening

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seeing a little bit of these decommitments and maybe the

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the idea that that his talent level could be capped

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at Iowa State, Well.

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Speaker 5: That's that's kind of been a lot of a lot

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of folks have speculated that he's been there ten years now,

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the last offseason. He continues to take care of his

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assistant coaches. I think he's taken like a million and

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a million and a half out of his salary and

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putting into the rev Share Fund at Iowa State as well.

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So I think he's really invested in in staying at

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Iowa State and continuing to build and and you keep

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the talent around and and just keep keep rolling, so

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to speak.

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Speaker 2: Best way to support you what you do, how you

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do it for all of our listeners to today at

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a cyclone report through the Iowa State fan

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site on the on three network. You can log on

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Speaker 5: You can get onto the message boards, the forums and

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read all of those as well, not just the ones

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guys have seen kind of what on three has really

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become here in the last couple of years, and I'm

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Speaker 4: So lots of lots of benefits.

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Speaker 2: You do great work. Appreciate you joining us. We'll see

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure.

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a half point dog heading out to Ames and Jack

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Trice Stadium. BYU versus Iowa State is set at I believe.

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Speaker 3: Forty nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: So that number has been interesting to me because it's

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kind of the over under for all of BYU's games

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thus far this season have been around that forty seven

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We'll see how this game plays out, and ESPN Analytics

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slightly in favor of the BYU Cougars fifty four percent

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chance of victory for the Cougars so we'll see, but

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Speaker 2: The Iowa State Cyclones on the line. We got John Walters. John,

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how are you living?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing real well. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic man letting his delve into your mind and gets

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your perspective on this game and your program. One thing

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that I said about these two programs and these two

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head coaches, Matt Campbell Killani, I think they're much more

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similar than they are dissimilar. Would you agree?

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Speaker 6: Oh? One hundred percent? You know, Matt said this week, I.

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Speaker 7: Think the ultimate compliment that any coach can pay another coach.

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He said, if my sons want to play college football.

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I'd want him to go play for Kilani Sataki, and

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I mean, I don't know how you can get any

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better than that from one coach to another as a compliment.

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Ryan Harklaw, who does our sideline reporting for our cycle

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and radio network, was in Jacksonville camp at the same

480
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time as coach Sataki with the Jaguars, and they were

481
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roommates actually, so they're good friends and they talk quite

482
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a bit, and there's just a ton of risks. I

483
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mean for the way he does things, the way that

484
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he puts the players first.

485
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Speaker 6: You can see when he talks to.

486
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Speaker 7: The media or just does a sideline interview, whatever the

487
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case may be, that his priorities are in the right places.

488
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And Matt's very much the same way. I mean, I

489
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know that a lot of coaches, and Matt understands this

490
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as well as anybody.

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Speaker 6: They're going to be measured on wins and losses.

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Speaker 7: And that's part of it, that's part of the deal.

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But ultimately, what kind of impact are you having on

494
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these young people's lives? And that might sound really corny,

495
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but Matt lives it every day. I know Coachataki does

496
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the exact same thing, and it's critical. I mean, these

497
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kids are really influenced by these coaches and the way

498
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they lead their programs. And if you do it in

499
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a really positive direction, you turn out a lot of

500
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really good young men.

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Speaker 6: And that's exactly I think what's happening in both programs.

502
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Speaker 2: What's the culture like under Matt Campbell since he became

503
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the head coach, revamped, remodeled, restructured, reorganize it, instituted his

504
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way or the highway?

505
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Speaker 3: What has that been like? What is the culture like

506
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there in ames.

507
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Speaker 6: Well, on the football field, it's all about details. It's

508
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you know, you're not going to just.

509
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Speaker 7: Out recruit everybody and win at Iowa State.

510
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Speaker 6: You're not Texas.

511
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Speaker 7: You're not just going to say, hey, we're going to

512
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get a bunch of five star guys and we're going

513
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to out recruit everybody and win games that way. So

514
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in order to win games, Iowa State has to do

515
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little things really really well, and that's what they've done

516
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through the years, and it's avoiding penalties, it's avoiding drop passes,

517
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it's avoiding turnovers, it's creating your own turnovers. And so

518
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those are the areas that Matt calls the margins, and

519
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,960
that's what Iowa State is one in. Going into these

520
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:53,079
last two games that they've lost against Cincinnati and Colorado,

521
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Iowa State had won nine of its last ten one

522
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,279
possession games, and a lot of those games come down

523
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to a play here or play They're not jumping off sides,

524
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not committing a false start when you.

525
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Speaker 6: In the middle of a really positive drive.

526
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Speaker 7: And those little detailed things that Matt talks all about

527
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all the time that I would say it has to

528
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do well. But from a bigger picture perspective, it's creating

529
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people that are in it for the team more than

530
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,519
they're in it for themselves, that view them as the

531
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sport is something bigger than themselves, so they want to

532
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do anything they can to help the team win.

533
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Speaker 6: And it's just a really positive environment.

534
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Speaker 7: When you're around it every day, you're just so impressed,

535
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and you know, from a fan perspective, it's like, Okay,

536
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,119
I would say, used to have this huge hurdle in

537
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,400
front of them that they didn't honestly feel like they

538
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,680
could win every game. Now maybe the players and coaches

539
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got themselves.

540
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Speaker 4: To that point.

541
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Speaker 7: I know the fans didn't really feel like they had

542
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a chance. This program has gotten to the point where

543
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I don't care who they're playing, when they're playing, where

544
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they're playing. They feel like, if they play well, they'll

545
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have a chance to win.

546
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Speaker 6: That doesn't mean they're going.

547
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Speaker 7: To win every game, but if they play well, they'll

548
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at least have a chance to win. And that was

549
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a big hurdle, I mean a mental hurdle, I think,

550
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and the fans now are at a point where it's like, hey, yeah,

551
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,400
it doesn't matter. He's won at Oklahoma, he's won in

552
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,640
Texas a couple of times, he's won everywhere in the

553
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,960
Big Twelve conference. And so there's no game that you

554
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:22,240
look at and say, no, that one's impossible. It's just

555
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:24,599
write that one off and try to stay in there

556
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and hang in there and get to next week.

557
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Speaker 6: It's not that way at all.

558
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Speaker 2: Talking to Iowa State Cyclone Football with the Voice of

559
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,960
the Cyclones here on ESPN the Fan, John Walter's breaking

560
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,000
it all down. So what is the trajectory of this

561
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,759
Iowa State program right now? And is there a lot

562
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:50,680
of optimism and aims as in relation to that trajectory, Yeah.

563
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Speaker 6: I think it's continuing to go upward, and it's not that.

564
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Speaker 7: You're never going to have a down year. I was

565
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:58,799
State went four and eight a couple of years ago.

566
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Twenty twenty two, they at four and eight. They lost

567
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,480
all their one possession games that year. I think they

568
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,880
went one in eight that year in those close games,

569
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and so you know, it's not a guarantee that you're

570
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000
gonna win all those and sometimes the ball doesn't bounced

571
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your way, and as I mentioned earlier, Ila State doesn't

572
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:18,119
have the overwhelming talent to just be able to absorb

573
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that and still win a ton of games.

574
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Speaker 6: But overall, the trajectory of the program continues to.

575
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 7: Move forward in a really positive direction because Matt has

576
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continued to stack good recruiting class upon good recruiting class.

577
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And when I say good recruiting class, it might not

578
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,640
be viewed that way by twenty four to seven sports arrivals.

579
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They might view it as just okay or middle of

580
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,519
the pack recruiting class. But Matt really doesn't care how

581
00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:46,319
many stars are next to a guy's name. He wants

582
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to know that that guy can play in his own mind,

583
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and he's a fit for the program. And they found

584
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really good players and developed players and turn them into

585
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,720
NFL players in a lot of cases, but their developmental

586
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:00,440
program and so they have to stack class says they

587
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,599
have to have sophomores and freshmen coming in behind the

588
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juniors and seniors that are able to play and able

589
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to step in and take on a bigger role. And

590
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that's something that he's really been good at. And I

591
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,519
think a big part of that is not getting so

592
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married to the transfer portal that you say, Okay, we're

593
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just going to go flip our roster every year like

594
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some programs do, where you're bringing in, you know, fifteen

595
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guys from the portal.

596
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Speaker 6: I could think of a year or two ago, there.

597
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Speaker 7: Was so much fascination with the portal that a lot

598
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of coaches were saving you know, ten or eleven scholarships

599
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off the recruiting class.

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Speaker 6: To get it to portal guys.

601
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Speaker 7: And with Matt, he said, okay, fine, not that they

602
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don't take portal guys.

603
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Speaker 4: They do.

604
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Speaker 7: They'll take four or five a year. But he was

605
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never one to say that, and so at the time

606
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he was saying, Okay, if everybody else is zigging Will

607
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zag who are the best high school players that we

608
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haven't offered yet and they haven't got some guys late

609
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:57,319
in that class, and really it turned out to be

610
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great players, even going back a couple classes earlier.

611
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Speaker 6: Rock Party was one of those guys.

612
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Speaker 7: He was a guy that you know, didn't get a

613
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,200
lot of recruiting attention until late in the senior year,

614
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and he had a tremendous senior year and ended up

615
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,759
at Iowa, stayed over offers from Alabama and Texas A

616
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and M that kind of came in.

617
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Speaker 6: At the last minute too.

618
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Speaker 7: But it's something unique, I think in today's college football.

619
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And so the program is built on a really solid

620
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foundation and as long as coach Gambell and his staff

621
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are here, I think it'll continue to thrive and do well.

622
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the development of these players. I don't

623
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know if this is a comprehensive list, but I was

624
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:38,359
stayed almost sad. I want to say fifteen to twenty

625
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,440
players in the NFL right now.

626
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and good players. You know.

627
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Speaker 7: I mentioned Brock Party, Bri Sall with the New York Jets,

628
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,240
Will McDonald with the Jets, Charlie Kohler with the Ravens,

629
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,319
TJ Tampa with the Ravens. I mean David Montgomery with

630
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,440
the Lions. There's a lot of really good players in

631
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the NFL. The two rookie receivers for the Texas, Jayden

632
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,160
Higgins and Jalen Knowle, we're both here a year ago

633
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,640
and they're off to a great start in their NFL career.

634
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Speaker 6: So He's produced really good players.

635
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:10,319
Speaker 7: Some of them have gone on to the NFL, some

636
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:13,279
of them haven't, but they've had really good careers that

637
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:14,039
Iowa stayed.

638
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,839
Speaker 6: And it's not an overnight thing.

639
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,119
Speaker 7: Typically, Typically it does take a couple of years for

640
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,200
these guys to develop.

641
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Speaker 6: But they're really good day to day with these guys

642
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,079
and bringing them along.

643
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Speaker 7: And that's why I say they go and seek out

644
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,119
a certain type of kid that they can see maybe

645
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,920
three years from now, this guy's.

646
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,119
Speaker 6: Going to be a really productive player.

647
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:33,839
Speaker 7: Where other coaches might be more impatient and say we

648
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,160
need results right now, I've got to save my job.

649
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,319
Matt doesn't have that kind of insecurity about it, so

650
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,039
he will go recruit a guy and say, I recognize.

651
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: That it's going to be two years, three years.

652
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,039
Speaker 7: Before this guy can really make a contribution for us,

653
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,519
unless he progresses faster than we're even thinking, and sometimes

654
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:54,759
that does happen. But to have that kind of security

655
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,039
in your own decisions, I think is really important.

656
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Great breakdown, let's talk about this particular game b Yu

657
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,559
versus Ioway State.

658
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: How do you see you playing out?

659
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Speaker 2: What are the strengths of weeknessus this Iowa State team

660
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,279
right now? And what do you think b Yu brings

661
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,480
to Jack Trice this weekend?

662
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: Well, man, it's been really impressive what Byu has done,

663
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,000
and to do it with a true freshman quarterback is

664
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,799
absolutely unbelievable, and I am so impressed by him. And

665
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:27,000
you know they've been they've been winning the close games,

666
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,039
just like we just talked about there. You know what

667
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,400
three and OHO in their big twelve games, I think

668
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,240
you know, or three and oh in their one possession

669
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,839
big twelve games. And that's how you that's how you

670
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:39,160
win championships. You win a bunch of those close games.

671
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,000
But there's a calmness about Bachmeyer that you know, you

672
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,799
just don't see in a true freshman. He really has

673
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:48,759
a quiet confidence about him.

674
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Speaker 6: But the way he plays the game is so unique too.

675
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Speaker 7: And he was talking to our color analysts today Eric Haft,

676
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,519
and he said he's reminded of Tim Tebow when he

677
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:02,440
watches Bachmeyer play because such a big run threat, such

678
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,039
a big, physical, pounding guy. But it's the run game

679
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:08,920
is I think where it begins and ends for both teams.

680
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,880
I mean, Ioa State has to run the ball well too,

681
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,760
and that's hard to do against BYU's rush defense. But

682
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,559
Abu Samas, coming off one hundred and seventy seven yard

683
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,079
rushing game, had a one hundred yard rushing game and

684
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,639
Iowa States win in Pro Bowl a couple of years ago.

685
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,559
He's a talented running back. Carson Hanson's a good running back.

686
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,800
You are going to put a lot on the shoulders

687
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,639
of Rock Obecs if you're Iowa State. But at the

688
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,159
same time, he's probably not going to have as much

689
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,800
success if you don't at least gain one hundred yards

690
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,719
on the ground. And I think with those two guys,

691
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,000
that's the hope is that they'll, you know, be into

692
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,119
triple digits and rushing yards. I think with BYU, which

693
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,320
is averaging two thirty rushing yards a game, you got

694
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,519
to somewhere hold down between one hundred one hundred and

695
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:49,639
fifty if you can to force Bachmeyer to beat you

696
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,920
through the air, because as good as he is running

697
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,840
the football, and I know he can throw it too,

698
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,039
but you'd rather take your.

699
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,519
Speaker 6: Chances on him throwing it and beating you.

700
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Speaker 7: Than just saying, okay, we can just lineup and gains

701
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,920
six to seven yards on every running play between him

702
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,840
and Martin. That's a scary proposition. So defense, particularly up

703
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,079
the middle, slowing down the run game of BYU is

704
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,800
I think really critical. Both teams are going to be

705
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,840
determined to run the ball and establish that. They're both

706
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,840
trying to getting into third and short situations where the

707
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,159
playbook is wide open and some of that play action stuff.

708
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,639
Speaker 6: Can really work.

709
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 7: But yeah, predictable passing situations are what both defensive coordinators

710
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,800
are trying to create. And and so it'll be a

711
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,320
fascinating chess match between these two schools. They're built pretty similarly, really,

712
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,719
I think there's a lot of similarities in the way

713
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,880
they play, and so it'll be it'll be a fascinating

714
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,719
chess match to see. I think, in particular, which team

715
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,039
can establish a ground game.

716
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,519
Speaker 2: I was stinks five and oh all time against the

717
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:52,199
ba Ucouver's last time they met at Lavelle I State

718
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,960
destroyed by BYU slipping all over the football field on

719
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,000
their home turf. Iowa State was sure footed, I want

720
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:04,760
to say in twenty twenty three, prior to the BYU game,

721
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,639
I thought I Always stayed had a home game in

722
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,159
which the turf was a little bit slippery, and so

723
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,800
they changed maybe their footwear play having to play on

724
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,920
the road on a same similar surface. Do you recall

725
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440
that at all in twenty twenty three, What do you

726
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,280
recall about it?

727
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 7: Well, sure, I think you might be onto something as

728
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,840
far as the cleats, I don't know, but it sure

729
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,599
seemed like Iowa State had better footing that day.

730
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,679
Speaker 6: And I would State.

731
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 7: Does play on a grass field here names and it

732
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:37,840
gets a lot of do on it overnight, and you know,

733
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,920
it gets slippery at times, and so they're kind of

734
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:43,039
used to playing on those surfaces and that might have

735
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:44,920
had more to do with it than anything if that

736
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:49,159
surface was a little bit more wet than it.

737
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:53,119
Speaker 6: Typically is on that night. But yeah, I always say

738
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:54,400
played very well that night.

739
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 7: Now at BYU, that was not one of the more

740
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,239
successful teams. Obviously these last couple of years, they've played

741
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,159
at a much higher level I mean, I would love

742
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:06,559
to see I would stay to have a putting advantage.

743
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,639
I don't think it's necessarily going to happen. I think

744
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,280
they both used to playing on grass. That's the field

745
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,480
will beyond tomorrow. The weather looks perfect, it's going to

746
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:15,239
be about sixty degrees that you're playing right in the

747
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,559
middle of the day at two thirty, So I wouldn't

748
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:19,239
think that footing is going to be a big issue

749
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,960
for either team. But yeah, obviously played really well out

750
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,719
there a couple of years ago, and obviously this is

751
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,320
a totally different animal, and I expect a very competitive

752
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,159
football game that'll come right down to the closing minutes.

753
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: For BWAU fans that are heading out to Ames, what

754
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,239
where's the places to go? Things to see, places to eat?

755
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,079
Give us a breakdown of what Kugarnation needs to expose

756
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:48,920
themselves to out there at Ames.

757
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,599
Speaker 7: Well, Ames is a college town, that's a great college town.

758
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,480
The campus itself is absolutely beautiful. So if they if

759
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,519
they want to walk around the campus, since I mean

760
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,920
with the fall colors and everything going on right now,

761
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,239
it's a perfect.

762
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,639
Speaker 6: Time to do that.

763
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 7: So I think they'd really enjoy walking around Iowa State's campus.

764
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 6: There's several great restaurants and names.

765
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 7: Provisions is one that frankfurt Schol always talks about every

766
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,280
time he comes into town. Hickory Park and Bod's Cornbread.

767
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,400
There's a bunch of them that are really, really good.

768
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 6: So I think they'll be able to find a good

769
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,239
place to eat.

770
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:25,519
Speaker 7: If they want to head down to De Moine, that's

771
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:27,559
about thirty minutes south of here, they can go down

772
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:29,519
to see the state capitol and walk around to wine

773
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:33,000
and enjoy downtown Des Moines. But you know, Ames is

774
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:36,239
a college town and it's a really fun college town.

775
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,679
I think what they're really going to enjoy is walking

776
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,079
around tomorrow in the five or six hours leading up

777
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,679
to the game. If they just walk around out the

778
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,000
exterior of the stadium, it's really a sea of cardinal

779
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,159
and gold in every direction you can possibly look.

780
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:51,679
Speaker 6: I've said many times.

781
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 7: Iowa State's lost a bunch of football games through the years,

782
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,760
but they've never lost a tailgate.

783
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,679
Speaker 6: This is a great tailgating environment. And it's when you're

784
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:00,679
in the box.

785
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 7: Where I am calling the game from and where Greg

786
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,119
will be tomorrow calling the game for BYU, you look

787
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,639
off in any direction and you see these tents and

788
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,360
these flags, and it's just so cool to look at

789
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,960
from up there, and so I think they'd really enjoy

790
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:15,880
that part of it. So I'd recommend they get to

791
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,039
the stadium as early as possible and kind of walk

792
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,840
around and become friends with some of the Ioway State fans.

793
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,320
It's a very friendly fan base. They'll be welcoming, and

794
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,800
I think the BYU fans that come here are going

795
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,760
to have a great experience.

796
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 6: I know several that are that are coming, and they'll

797
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,239
have it. They'll have a great experience.

798
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: Love that breakdown. Break down the game for me?

799
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: How do you see it playing out in a day

800
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:42,320
game b YU versus Ioway State at Jack Trice this weekend?

801
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,119
Speaker 7: Well, I think you know when Matt Campbell was asked

802
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:48,880
what's the keys, you know he the first thing he

803
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,199
said to was turnover margin. And you know BYU leaves

804
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,000
the big twelve in interceptions with nine.

805
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 6: They've been very good at turning opponents over.

806
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 7: Rockobeck has done a very good job of taking care

807
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,719
of the football this year. If he can avoid turning

808
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,760
it over and the Segmales don't lay it on the

809
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,039
ground too often and can win that turnover margin, maybe

810
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:10,840
force Bachmeyer into throw he doesn't want to make, kind

811
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,679
of third and long or something like that. Then I

812
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,800
think it really improves their chances of winning. But that'll

813
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,199
be a stat for sure to keep an eye. And

814
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,679
I mentioned rushing yardage earlier. I think and when I

815
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:25,519
say rushing yardage, if BYU rushes for one fifty, and

816
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:29,679
I always state rushes for one forty, I'd almost consider that

817
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,480
a win for Iowa State because BYUS averaging two hundred

818
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,360
and thirty rushing yards a game, it's kind of their.

819
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 6: Butt and butter. They still throw it very well, but they.

820
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,079
Speaker 7: Want to establish that run game, so at least, you know,

821
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,679
getting them into that one hundred and fifty vicinity of

822
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,280
rushing yards or fewer. But the combination of Martin and

823
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,599
Bachmeyer is really tough to stop on the ground, so

824
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:52,960
that's a big challenge. But I think, yeah, which team

825
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,679
can establish a run, which team can win the turnover margin,

826
00:40:56,599 --> 00:40:59,199
avoid big mistakes, and then special teams always seem to

827
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,559
come into play tight games. And thankfully for Iowa State,

828
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,360
they're getting their kicker back tomorrow and Kyle Conrarti he's

829
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,280
been missing for a few games now, and that's really

830
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,199
changes your strategy when you don't have your kicker at

831
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,960
your disposal. And so both these kickers are excellent, They're

832
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,800
two of the best in the Big twelve. And Farren

833
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,119
and Conrarti, the punt games for both teams are really solid.

834
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,159
They both have really good returners. So I'd kind of

835
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,719
keep an eye on that game within.

836
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 6: The game of who wins special teams as well.

837
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: Is this the game.

838
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: Of hope that allows Iowa State fans to believe that

839
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,119
they can still go to a Big twelve championship game

840
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:37,559
this year?

841
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,159
Speaker 7: Well, I think at this point in Iowa State's position,

842
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,119
you know that you have to win them all. You

843
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,039
have to win your next five games if you want

844
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:48,719
to even be in the discussion for the Big twelve

845
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,119
championship game, because you know, last year, four teams including

846
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:54,880
BYU and Iowa State, tied with two losses and the

847
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,039
tiebreakers worked out to Iowa States benefit and Arizona States benefit.

848
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,159
But I would think this year it's highly unlikely you're

849
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:06,039
going to have, you know, another championship game that matches

850
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,320
to two loss teams as possible, But for Iway State,

851
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,119
you're not even in the discussion if you're not one

852
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,320
of those two loss teams and they already have two losses,

853
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,760
so they have to win out. But in a little

854
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,400
weird way, I do think that kind of helps them.

855
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,719
I think it takes some of the pressure off, if

856
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,960
you will, and that you know, they've kind of been

857
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:26,159
pressing a little bit. I think in these last couple

858
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:29,239
of games on the road, you know, they went into

859
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,840
those two games undefeated and then lost one and it

860
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,159
turned it into two losses.

861
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 6: Same thing happened to him last year.

862
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,639
Speaker 7: They lost at home by one point to Texas Tech,

863
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,760
went down to Arrowhead, got beat by Kansas, and then

864
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,199
they really turned it around and won their final three games.

865
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 6: And I think in a strange kind of.

866
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 7: Way, it kind of takes some of the pressure off

867
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:50,679
that people are starting to write you off, think you

868
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,280
have no chance to get to the championship game. IO

869
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,559
States better when they're the hunt hunted or the hunter

870
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,639
instead of the hunted, and so go relax, take the

871
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,320
edge off, take that weight off their shoulders, and just

872
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,679
go play football and let the chips fall where they may,

873
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,280
but be able to look in the mirror at the

874
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,840
end of the day and know that you played really

875
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,000
well and if that results will win, great.

876
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,159
Speaker 6: If it doesn't, at least you know you played really

877
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:15,400
well and you're in a great spot.

878
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 7: And so I think I would say it'll be loose,

879
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:21,239
looser than they have been in those last couple of games,

880
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,400
and I think they'll play really well. That doesn't mean

881
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,320
I don't think b YU will play really well too.

882
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 6: I do.

883
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,559
Speaker 7: I think it'll be a great football game. I think

884
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:30,079
it'll come right down to the finish. So I'm looking

885
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,159
forward to two teams playing at a high level, a

886
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:36,000
great showcase for the Big Twelve Conference in these two institutions.

887
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,480
When you consider a national TV audience with Jason Bennetti

888
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:42,599
and Robert Griffin on the call on Fox, I think

889
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,079
it's going to be a tremendous showcase for the Big

890
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:47,880
Twelve Conference, and I think the game itself will live

891
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:48,320
up to that.

892
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: Villain John, we appreciate you great in shy, great knowledge,

893
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,039
good luck on your call. We invite everyone to follow

894
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:01,159
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895
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:02,880
we salute you man. Thanks for hopping on for a

896
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,119
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897
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898
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it when you do. I feel like BYU's gotta get

912
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:54,599
that dub, get to get that victory real quick. To

913
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,880
end the show. Prognostication score, What do you got for me?

914
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,320
Brett always bringing the hammer at ap.

915
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:07,159
Speaker 8: You go to so I think Bayu wins at thirty

916
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,480
four or thirty one. I think this could end up

917
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:11,800
being a game similar to Oklahoma State last year, where

918
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,360
they have Gona. They have a running back that has

919
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,360
the history of giving us trouble and I think he

920
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,920
could do that again. But I think I think Iowa

921
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,920
States beat up enough that we can score some points

922
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,199
on him. So I think we went thirty four to

923
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:22,639
thirty one.

924
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:29,199
Speaker 3: Last two games in these lawsuits on the road.

925
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,079
Speaker 2: By the way, they've scored thirty and seventeen respectively. Offensively,

926
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,480
they've given up thirty eight and twenty four. Obviously, Colorado

927
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:41,920
that was a very close game for BYU, and they

928
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:45,360
played on their home field right and scored twenty four points.

929
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: So I'm taking that into account.

930
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,119
Speaker 2: I'm getting a field that By's gonna yes, win this game,

931
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,400
but it's gonna be another one score game. It'll be

932
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,239
a close one. I'm going thirty one twenty eight BYU.

933
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,559
They don't have a really a field goal kicker there.

934
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,079
They have some kicking game problems, but they do have

935
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:04,480
a great offense, a great quarterback, and some great tight

936
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:07,480
ends and I think physical line play. I think they

937
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,880
may be able to score more points than they have

938
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:12,559
the last few weeks.

939
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: On average, they score thirty versus.

940
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: Cincinnati at Cincinnati, being at home, I expect them to

941
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:20,800
have a good offensive output.

942
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:25,159
Speaker 3: That twelfth man showing up. It should be a sold

943
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:25,840
out crowd.

944
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,559
Speaker 2: It will be a sold out Cloud crowd, and that

945
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,599
is going to be sixty two thousand strong, sixty two

946
00:46:33,639 --> 00:46:34,320
thousand strong.

947
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: There. Score prediction, what do you got from a hammertime?

948
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:39,679
Thirty four to twenty four BYU rocks and loads. I

949
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,159
like it, rocks and loads.

950
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:42,119
Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go Cougars, guys. Enjoy the weekend, enjoy the game.

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We appreciate you. Oh Vic, Vic, you got a score prediction?

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Speaker 3: What do you got?

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Speaker 6: I do?

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Speaker 7: I have a twenty seven to seventeen and BYU wins

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the time of possession battle, big key into the win

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in this game.

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Speaker 3: Love it.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope it happens. Let's hope it comes to fruition.

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That's our show, guys. We'll see you next week, hopefully

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celebrating eight to o and another victory for the Bau

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Cougars and an exhibition win over by over UNC at

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the Delta Center. This is Cougar Sports on one of

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three nine ninety eight point three ESPN.

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Speaker 3: The phase