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Speaker 1: Sixty eight years ago. Today, December two, nineteen fifty four,

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Senate Resolution three oh one, the censure of the Senator

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Joseph McCarthy, was entered into the record. The transcript reads

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resolved that the Senator from Wisconsin, mister McCarthy, failed to

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cooperate with the Subcommittee on Privileges and Elections of the

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Senate Committee on Rules and Administration in clearing up matters

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referred to that subcommittee which concerned his conduct as a

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Senator and affected the honor of the Senate, and instead

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repeatedly abused the Subcommittee and its members who were trying

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to carry out assigned duties, thereby obstructing the constitutional processes

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of the Senate. And that this conduct of the Senator

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from Wisconsin, mister McCarthy, is contrary to Senatorial traditions and

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is hereby condemned. Section two reads the Senator from Wisconsin,

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mister McCarthy, and writing to the Chairman of the Select

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Committee to study censure charges mister Watkins, after the Select

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Committee had issued its report, and before the report was

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presented to the Senate, charging three members of the Select

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Committee would deliberate deception and fraud for failure to disqualify themselves,

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in stating to the press on November fourth, nineteen fifty four,

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that the special Senate Session that was to begin November eighth,

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nineteen fifty four was a lynch party quote unquote, in

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repeatedly describing this special Senate Session as a lynch b

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in a nationwide television and radio show on November seventh,

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nineteen fifty four, In stating to the public press on

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November thirteenth, nineteen fifty four, that the chairman of the

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Select Committee, mister Watkins, was guilty of quote the most unusual,

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most cowardly things I've ever heard of, and stating further

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quote I expected he would be afraid to answer the questions,

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but didn't think he'd be stupid enough to make a

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public statement. And in characterizing the said Committee as the

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unwitting handmaiden, involuntary agent and attorneys in fact of the

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Communist Party, and in changing in charging that said Committee

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in writing its report imitated Communist methods that it distorted, misrepresented,

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and omitted in its effort to manufacture applausible rationalization in

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support of its recommendations to the Senate, Which characterizations and

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charges were contained in a statement released to the press

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and inserted in the Congressional Record of November tenth, nineteen

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fifty four, acted contrary to senatorial ethics, and tended to

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bring the Senate into dishonor and disrepute, to obstruct the

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constitutional process of the Senate, and to impair its dignity.

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And such conduct is hereby condemned. Does that sound petty

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to you, mister.

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Speaker 2: Fair Extremely so, extremely so. Sounds like an outright moral

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which is always the camouflage utilized to destroy a political opponent,

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especially when that political opponent has an accurately characterized and

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given situation.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting we talk about whether certain historical figures will

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be rehabilitated, and I think as every day progresses and

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every hour progresses, Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin is vindicated,

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is rehabilitated, is shown to be the hero that he was.

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Speaker 2: I completely agree. As a matter of fact, there are

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very few individuals within American politics, particularly twentieth century American politics,

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that you can point at as having been more sort

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of maligned, not just with his political reputation, but also

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with his personal reputation, which we'll probably get into. You know,

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people and people like people like John McCain, for example,

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and in contrast, get portrayed as these as these great heroes,

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as these exemplars of Americana, as opposed to people like

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McCarthy with much more tangible the thing I'm speaking of

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at this instance's service records, but much more tangible sort

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of performances and public lives. But Senator McCarthy, you know

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you could, you could very easily say, made the wrong

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enemy with the wrong group of people, and it very

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much cost him everything, including his life when he died

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in I think the Fesden Naval Hospital in nineteen fifty seven.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about that life. So he

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was born November fourteenth, nineteen oh eight and little Shoot, Wisconsin.

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Jump forward to nineteen thirty five. He graduates from Marquette

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University Law School. Thirty nine. He has elected a circuit

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judge in Appleton, Wisconsin. From nineteen forty two to nineteen

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forty five, McCarthy had enlisted in the US Marine Corps,

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serving in the United States and the Pacific theater of operations.

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I don't know if he ever got shot down, but

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you know, you mentioned McCain, and I like my pilots

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that don't get shot.

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Speaker 2: So actually, the one of the things, this is kind

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of skipping ahead a little bit, but one of the

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one of the smear tactics that I think his political

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enemies started using against him in his later career was

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basically calling into question his service record. You know what

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they started saying about him. Joe McCarthy was a officer

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in the United States Marine Corps during World War Two,

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and he was a specifically, he was an intelligence officer

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that briefed bombing cruise before they went out and did raids.

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his Oh, he volunteered to fly all these collbat missions,

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but none of them were actually dangerous, they were all

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safe and he never got shot at. Let him unload

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a bunch of AMMO on some trees to make him

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feel like a soldier. And so they called him tailgun

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or Joe and basically stuff like that. Basically, I personally,

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you know, he forged his own commendation letter for his

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distinguished service. We're kind of skipping ahead, but this is

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kind of what I'm talking about. I don't think any

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of that's necessarily true. I think I think he very

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much did fly several combat aviation missions that he volunteered

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to because that kind of stuff was normal during during

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World War Two. And and really I think I think

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this is this is just this is just what happens

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when you decide to cross the wrong group of people. Anyway,

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forgive me, continue.

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Speaker 1: On, let's not go there, all right. So nineteen forty four,

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he runs unsuccessfully for US Senate while serving in the Marines.

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Match just someone trying to do that today.

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Speaker 2: Well, the small, small, small little aside. Actually, uh, we've had,

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we have had senators who were actively serving in the

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US military before I forget, I forget, there was one name.

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This is this is this is just complete aside. But

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during during the Battle of Balls Bluff in the American

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Civil War, which is one of the first battle that's

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the one battle where a US senator actually died in combat.

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And you know, he was actually one of Abraham Lincoln's

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a really really good friends, but he was shot in

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the head. I completely forget his name, this senator. But

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that's the one battle where we've had senators die in combat.

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So in American history before now, before everything got boring.

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Edwin Dickinson Baker. Edwin Dickinson Baker was his name. Before now,

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when everything got boring, we had senators who would run

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for Senate while serving in the US military. So this

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very much had precedent.

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Speaker 1: So he gets out in forty five, gets out of

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the out of the Marines, and in Novenumber fifth, nineteen

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forty six, he is elected to the US Senate. Nineteen fifty.

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February ninth, McCarthy delivers a speech in Wheeling, West Virginia,

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attacking communists in the State Department. This marks the beginning

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of his anti communist tirade, and I have a speech

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of his that I will read when we get to that.

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March eighth, same year, nineteen fifty, the US Senate establishes

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Foreign Relations Subcommittee, chaired by Senators Tidings of McMahon. The

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Tidings McMahon Committee begins investigating McCarthy's accusations against the State

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Department June twenty fifth, nineteen fifty. A couple months later,

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North Korea invade South Korea. Nineteen fifty. Same year, December,

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The McCarran Committee works with McCarthy to expose a li

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alledged communists. Six months later June fourteenth, nineteen fifty one,

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nineteen fifty two November fourth, About a year and a

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half later after that, McCarthy is re elected to the

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US Senate and Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower is elected President

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of the United States nineteen fifty three. A couple months later,

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January twentieth, McCarthy becomes chairman of Senate Permanent Subcommittee on

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Investigations nineteen fifty three, same year, August thirty first, six

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months later, seven months later, McCarthy begins investigating communists in

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the US Army. About nine months later, nineteen fifty four,

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program See It Now the Press.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of where you start seeing the

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at least the foundations laid for the sort of third

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estate taking a much larger role in electoral politics, because

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Deal regime, basically you didn't have this one big man

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directing the whole press anymore. So starting with McCarthy, you

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really kind of see this journalism class, be it newspaper men,

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TV men, various reporters kind of start collectively advancing their

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own interests as a media group, and that's kind of

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evolved into what you see now.

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Speaker 1: So from the same year, nineteen fifty four, this is

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basically a month later, forty days later April twenty second

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through June twenty through June seventeen, there are televised hearings

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of the McCarthy looking into communists in the army. Six

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months after that, November nineteen fifty four midterm elections, Republicans

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become the minority party in the Senate. McCarthy loses his

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chairmanship of Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. Roughly a month later,

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nineteen fifty four, December second, the US Senate votes to

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condemn McCarthy sixty eight years ago today, about six months

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after that, almost to the day, about about three and

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a half years after that, almost to the day, May second,

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nineteen fifty seven, McCarthy dies of Bethesda Naval Hospital. He

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is buried in Appleton, Wisconsin, on May sixth, So a

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short life he was what forty nine, Yeah, he was young.

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he had reached his forty ninth birthday. He would have

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been forty eight. Yeah, and yeah he's gone.

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Speaker 2: It was what did him? I think it was like

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a pulmonary embolism. But here's the thing, like when you

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had people, especially people who would die in military hospitals

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post war, you have all sorts of strange reasons on

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unattributed reasons. There's there's several figures who die in military

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hospitals after the Second World War that kind of have

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question marks right next to their death and there, you know,

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the McCarthy is one example. There's two other examples. The

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other one is, of course George Patten, who had a

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miraculous recovery and then the next day he was dead,

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very strange after, you know, after making a bunch of

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comments around a similar a similar group of communists kind

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of getting into the US government like McCarthy did. And

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then the third was actually Admiral William Forestall, who was

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the last cabinet level secretary of the Navy and the

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first cabinet level Secretary of Defense the Department of Defense

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was changed from the Department of War to the Department

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of Defense, and Forestall was the sect death. And he

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checks himself into Walter Reed Medical Hospital, and you know,

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his because his mental state is so terrible, even though

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he planned on going fishing that weekend with his son,

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and then somehow his mental state just descends so much

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Walter Reed. Very very very curious, and I mean, it's

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with really vocal, outspoken figures who were very much war heroes,

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who very much did fight and did do their service

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to their country and felt like the country was kind

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of being stolen out from under them after the war,

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and they all just mysteriously die in military hospitals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want to be the kind of people

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who jump into conspiracy theories, but it does seem that

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it is right around this time, right around the time

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that the the quote unquote red Scare happened, that you

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start seeing people, you know, when people start speaking out

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against communists, as as we know that General Patten did,

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and he said said things like, we we fought the

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wrong enemy, and you know, wanted to go into wanted

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to go into Russia. He knew that they were weak

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and that they could probably be taken, but of course

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that wasn't going to happen. It seems like people who

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really went against that at the time were yeah, just

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you know, passed on rather early, forty eight years old,

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fifty seven years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, it's it's it's it's really strange. Yeah,

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I don't want to get into sort of conspiracy mindset,

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but you know, this is this is this is how,

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this is how these sort of politics are worked. There's

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all sorts of you know, plots to kill people, plots

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to silence people, you know, plots to do anything. That's

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that's why McCarthy's service record was smeared, especially after he

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we're going to get into this, but especially after he

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starts going after the army, which very much did have

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a problem, especially post war, with these sort of these

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sort of officers with ambiguous ties to the Soviet Union

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or and if not to the Soviet Union, to the

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remnants of the Socialist Party of America, which was in

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many ways a sort of an arm of that, you know,

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And I mean it's it's it's just weird. It's really

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weird that this is. You can see this pattern with

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they all just mysteriously die untimely deaths.

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Speaker 1: Yes, especially people talking about communism, as we already talked

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about in the timeline. He really started speaking out against

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it in nineteen fifty. And here's a This is Joseph

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McCarthy on communism in nineteen fifty. And just stop me anytime,

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because this is it's about three three hundred words, but

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it's a nice little uh, he goes. He starts off saying,

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five years after World War had been won, men's hearts

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should anticipate a long peace and men's minds should be

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free from the heavy weight that comes with war. But

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this is not such a period. For this is not

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a period of peace. This is a time of the

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Cold War. This is a time when all the world

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is split into two vast, increasingly hostile armed camps, a

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time of a great armament's race. Today we can almost

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physically hear the mutterings and rumblings of an invigorated god

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of war. You can see it, feel it, and hear

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it all the way from the halls of Indo, China,

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from the shores of Formosa right over into the very

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heart of Europe itself. Today we are engaged in a final,

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all out battle between communist atheism and Christianity. The modern

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champions of communism have selected this at have selected this

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at this time as the time, and ladies and gentlemen,

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the chips are down, they are truly down. He's interesting.

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I mean, it's very I'm not comparing it even comparing

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the the the thought of what he's saying there, the

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spirit of what he's saying there, but almost a very

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Yaqi like type of prose.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a there's a reason, matter of fact, correct

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me if I'm wrong, but I believe Actually Yaki himself

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wrote a speech for Senator McCarthy after the war that

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he never gave, but he was supposed to give it

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to the UH I was I think it was the

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German American Association of America or something like that. And yeah,

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like this is this is a you know, we've we've

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talked about Yaqui before on your channel outside of here,

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and this is kind of the era where you have

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these sort of you have these sort of what you

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would call post war right figures, because you know, we

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we we've talked about this before. The American right wing

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that existed before World War Two, the sort of America

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to be sure, but was a significant minority, kind of

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just vanished overnight after December seventh. And you've got these,

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you've got these. You know, after the war, a lot

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of them went and fought, you know, in Europe or

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in the Pacific, and they came back and they tried

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to they tried to have a semblance of a recreation

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of a sort of post war American right. I can

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virtually guarantee you if George Patten had made it back

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to the United States, there would be a very healthy

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and true right wing in the country right now. I

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can virtually guarantee you that if someone, let's say like

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Douglas MacArthur won the presidency, we would have had something similar.

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But all of these sort of military men who experienced

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the fight and experienced what the Soviets really were and

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all this other stuff, they kind of they kind of

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all just vanish, and you know, Yaqui Yaki and people

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like him, you know, h Keith Thompson and other similar individuals.

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H Keith Thompson I think was still in the military. Actually,

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when when this started occurring? Really you see this, You

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see this sort of influence from these post war right

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wing figures, and it starts entering the discourse of mainstream

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politicians such as Joseph McCarthy, such as the people who

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who get on huact with him going after these communists.

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Speaker 1: But he wasn't. He was in the Senate, and I forget,

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what's the House? Yeah, forgive me. It's a common it's

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a common misconception, and it's a smear. It's it's it's

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something that's been drilled into us, that that McCarthy and Hughack.

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McCarthy and Huck McCarthy and Hugh Ack. Yeah it was.

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That was a House committee. And yeah, he was in

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the Senate.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, but I'm more than capable of being wrong.

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I'm very capable of being wrong.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I thought it for years. I thought of

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and a friend of mine, I said it to a

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friend of mine. My friend of mine is like, uh no, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, regardless, regardless, McCarthy did have a camp of

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individuals around him who kind of you know, there there

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were a few. There weren't a lot, but there were

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a few who kind of joined him, and and this

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this later became the foundation for what we would call

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the John Birchers. The thing is is that the John

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Birchers were very conveniently set up to basically contain all

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of this to this sort of crazy group of of

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fringe characters before, during, and after after McCarthy's lifetime. But yeah, no, yack.

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You can see Yaqui's hands on a lot of this

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and a lot of the hands of people who were

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working with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the what you're talking about is you're talking about gatekeepers. Yeah,

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and gatekeepers on the right. And I say it all

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the time. The gatekeepers on the right right now are

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you don't even need left progressive screaming fascist. And so

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you have these people who call themselves the right. The press,

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everyone calls them the right, and they are by no

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means right wing, but they will be the first people

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to scream fascist at the drop of a hat.

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Speaker 2: Oh of course, you know, you know, and this existed

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back then too, you had you had you know, quote

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unquote Republicans going against McCarthy, like, oh, this man is deranged,

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this man is crazy. Matter of fact, I think Eisenhower

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actually was of that camp. This sort of like this

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sort of like we're not going to go this far

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despite the fact that Eisenhower was saved from court martialing

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early in his career by a certain billionaire by the

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name of Bernard Baruch, but we're we're not going to

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get into that either.

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Speaker 1: But regardless, he should have been hung by the neck

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for what he did after the war in Germany.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's that's a whole other topic. But

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you're you're completely correct on that. And you see this

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sort of line of interests, you know, and this is

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this is where you had people like Yaki running around

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post war, and you have like like, these people didn't

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just die out, like the America firster Is and the

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Charles Limberg Caucus didn't die out during the war. A

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lot of them went to fight because they were genuine

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American patriots who wanted to fight and protect America, and

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America was at war, so they went and fought, and

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a lot of them came back and believed they fought

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a war or at least that they're The consolidations made

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after the war were really strange, especially after the sort

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of basic surrendering of China to mouse communists, where we

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basically just kind of let it happen, and that was

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that was, that was that was, that was the big

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sort of alarm bell that people like McCarthy and other

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individuals started taking. And that's that's why Yaki's words, Yaki

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is a sort of thought leader behind the scenes, started

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penetrating into into mainstream discourse. This is the first time

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post war you see this happen, and then it kind

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of gets quashed, and then it starts happening another couple

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of times in the decades up until this point, and

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every time it gets kind of quashed as it happens.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to continue with this. So okay,

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says ladies and gentlemen. Can there be anyone here tonight

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who is so blind as to say that the war

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is not on? Can there be anyone who fails to

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realize that the communist world has said the time is now,

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that this is the time for the showdown between the

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democratic Christian world and the communist atheistic world. Unless we

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face fact, we shall pay the price that must be

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paid by those who wait too long. As one of

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our outstanding historical figures once said, when a great democracy

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is destroyed, it will not be because of enemies from without,

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but rather because of enemies from within, the truth of

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this statement is becoming terrifyingly clear, as we see this

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country each day losing on every front. At war's end,

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we were physically the strongest nation on earth, and at

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least potentially the most powerful intellectually and morally. Ours could

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have been the honor of being a beacon in the

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desert of destruction, a shining, living proof that civilization was

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not yet ready to destroy itself. Unfortunately, we have failed,

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miserably and tragically to arise to the opportunity. The reason

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why we find ourselves in a position of impotency is

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not because of our only powerful potential enemy has sent

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men to invade our shores, but rather because the traitorous

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actions of those who have been treated so well by

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this nation. It has not been the less It has

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not been the less fortunate or members of minority groups

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who have been selling the nation out that comes later,

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but rather those who have all had the benefit that

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the wealthiest nation on earth has had to offer the

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finest homes, the finest college education, and the finest jobs

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in government we can give. This is glaringly true in

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the State Department. There, the bright young men who are

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born with silver spoons in their mouths are the ones

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who have been worst. In my opinion, the State Department,

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which is one of the most important governing departments, is

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thoroughly infested with Communists. I have in my hand fifty

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seven cases of individuals who would appear either to be

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either card caring members or certainly loyal to the Communist Party,

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but who nevertheless are still helping to shape our foreign policy.

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It's quite the accusation there.

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Speaker 2: Huh, well, what's funny. What's funny is is he has

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a number to back it up, and he waves around

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a piece of paper and one of the as matter

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of fact, in the US public school system, the red

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scare is actually something that's focused on quite a bit,

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specifically to eternally Burn McCarthy and effigy in the public

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school system of the United States. You know, they make

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you matter of fact, it stretches across more than one class.

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You kind of actually learn it all simultaneously. You learn

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it in history class, the same time. You read The

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Crucible by Arthur Miller in English class, and it's put

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together for a reason, because it's kind of meant to

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reinforce from various points that McCarthy is bad and randomly

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accusing people of that he was randomly accusing people he

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had no reason to do. Is he was just going

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around doing this for political gain. Well, people who just

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start randomly accusing people of things don't tend to name

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a specific number, and don't tend to have a list

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in their possession with names, and they start naming names

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and start going after individuals. And I mean, to be

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to be completely honest with you, I mean, it's more

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than fifty seven. It was a lot more than fifty seven.

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But one of the problems McCarthy actually had, and he

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wasn't he wasn't a bad man with bad intentions. He

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tried to do too much at once. He really did

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try to do too much at once, was to be fair,

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at the time, you didn't know, you didn't know how bad,

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how how really uh how really close to total subversion?

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The United States government was by these this coterie of

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organized individuals that had been working behind the scenes that

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counted amongst their number. Very likely you know Dwight Eisenhower

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and George Marshall, and you know other other such other

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such high up generals, and obviously FDR and his coterie

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and the people who came after and in the foundation

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of what what you would call the military industrial complet

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well we call today the military industrial complex. But really

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it was just a sort of consolidation, a palace coup,

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if you will, of these individuals, ensuring that their niche

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within the US political system was never again challenged. And

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any time it was, you know, after McCarthy, it just

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became easier each time because they could just bring up

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the mcarthy example and quash it.

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Speaker 1: I will go on because here comes a name. This

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brings us down to the case of one Alger hisss.

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As you hear this story of high treason, I know

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that you are saying to yourself, well, why doesn't the

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Congress do something about it? Actually, ladies and gentlemen, one

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of the important reasons for the graft, the corruption, the dishonesty,

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the disloyalty, the treason and high government positions. One of

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the most important reasons why this continues is a lack

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of moral uprising on the part of the one hundred

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and forty million American people. One hundred and forty million.

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In the light of history, how this is not hard

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to explain. It is the result of an emotional hangover

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and a temporary moral lapse which follows every war. It

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is the apathy to evil which people who have been

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subjected to the tremendous evils of war feel. As the

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people of the world see mass murder, the destruction of

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defenseless and innocent people, and all the crime and lack

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of morals which go with war, they become numb and apathetic.

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It has always been thus. After war, However, the morals

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of our people have not been destroyed. They still exist.

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This cloak of numbness and apathy has only needed a

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spark to rekindle them. Happily, this spark has finally supplied.

475
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:45,400
That has finally been supplied. He has lighted the spark

476
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,599
which is resulting in a moral uprising and will only

477
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:52,119
end when the whole sorry mess of twisted, warped thinkers

478
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,759
are swept from the national scene, so that we may

479
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:59,559
have a new birth of national honesty and decency in government.

480
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:11,400
I'm i'm, it's I wonder if you asked the what

481
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,440
three hundred and thirty million people in the country now,

482
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,440
and I don't know how many of those would even

483
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:24,119
be Americans technically who Algerhiss was and what position he held,

484
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,880
if they would.

485
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:31,359
Speaker 2: Even know, well his his was far from unimportant, for sure.

486
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:42,039
His his is interesting. I mean, I don't know, he's

487
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,759
He's sorry, I had a whole point, I had a

488
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:48,240
whole thing I was going to go into, and it

489
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:49,960
just completely slipped from my mind.

490
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry it happens, man, I'm sorry, no, but but no.

491
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,559
Speaker 2: In all reality, Alger Hiss is kind of like the

492
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,480
archetypal example of the type of end of visual that

493
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:07,000
Joe McCarthy was going after. You know, his decently educated guy,

494
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,960
you know, John Hopkins, graduate from Maryland, one of the

495
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,720
you know, old family, all this other stuff. But like

496
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:16,440
a lot of this sort of waspy elite that happens,

497
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:19,960
especially in the latter half of the twentieth century, a

498
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:23,519
lot of them start getting involved with the Socialist Party,

499
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:27,200
if they hadn't been involved already, and you know, very much,

500
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,359
very much turn into assets for not just the Soviet

501
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:32,839
Union but for this but for this group. We keep

502
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,960
talking about because because because the thing is, it's like

503
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,519
I'm not and I'm not talking about an ethnic group

504
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:38,480
or anything like that. This was a this was a

505
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:42,559
coterie of people that first unified under the banner of

506
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,640
the Socialist Labor Party of America. And they've got precedents

507
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,079
before that, but the the Socialist Labor Party is one

508
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:53,160
of the direct predecessors of the later Socialist Party of America.

509
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,640
And their world headquarters was in New York City, all right,

510
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,839
And so so from the foundation of the Socialist Labor

511
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,599
Party of America in eighteen seventy six in New York City,

512
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,599
you have this what we call the long March of

513
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,039
the institutions, the long March of the institutions. This this

514
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:20,319
slow subverting, this slow taking over of all of these

515
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,039
various these very but it'd be public schools, whether it

516
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,319
be you know, small government post offices or the like.

517
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,079
You know, how did these people get into the State

518
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:31,400
Department in the first place. Well, they worked their way up,

519
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,759
They made little political gangs. They understood how the American

520
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:38,119
political system worked. They took very much advantage of the

521
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,480
rising tide of trade unions, especially in urban centers, to

522
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:45,599
get themselves into the American political system right and his

523
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,480
his somehow manages to make his way into the State Department,

524
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,200
where he is one of the key lawyers, one of

525
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:57,359
the key architects of what would later become the United Nations.

526
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:02,000
And when he's later tried and macarthy McCarthy starts going

527
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:05,000
after him. When when he's later tried for being an

528
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:09,119
espionage agent for the Soviet Union, it kind of no

529
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,599
one really stops to question, well, wait a minute, why

530
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:13,680
was this guy at the top of everything if he

531
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,480
was supposedly doing this, this, this, and this.

532
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there's stuff I want to say, but I

533
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,680
don't want to say.

534
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,079
Speaker 2: We have to be we have to be careful on YouTube.

535
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know where I want to go. But it's

536
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:41,319
you know, let's let's bring this up. Okay. So this

537
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:44,720
whole quote unquote red scare as it's called as it's

538
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,599
as it's top. Now, McCarthy is to villain the Rose,

539
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,880
the Rosenbergs, the heroes who gave their lives for liberty

540
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,559
and freedom.

541
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:57,839
Speaker 2: That's the same thing with real quick that's the same

542
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,759
thing that that they kind of drill in your head

543
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:02,279
with reading Arthur Miller's The Crucible, which is a play

544
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:05,240
about the Salem which trial. Yeah, and it's like, oh,

545
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,160
you know, it's it's meant to make you think that, like, oh,

546
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:13,119
these terrible backwards people with these horrible ideologies always just

547
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,239
end up killing everyone for no reason. And the obvious

548
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,719
in Arthur Miller, who was a very well known communist

549
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,159
and his works kind of his works kind of reflect

550
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,639
that worldview was was I don't know if he was

551
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,960
stripped of citizenship. He was he had some sort of

552
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,800
international travel restriction on him because of this stuff, but

553
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:39,199
you know, yeah, that's that's that's very similar.

554
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: Right. So the point is that this didn't have to happen,

555
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:50,079
and this was the fault of everybody who went along

556
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,679
with the program, you know, a program I'm talking about.

557
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,760
To me, the greatest thing that could have happened in

558
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,679
World War two was if the US like funded both sides,

559
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,840
funded Germany and funded the Soviet Union and just let

560
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:12,159
them fight it out and destroy each other pretty much,

561
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:15,960
and then maybe step in whenever when everything's too weak

562
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,360
or even not even just broker broker truces and you know,

563
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,960
just had these yeah, whatever you want to do with Germany,

564
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:28,679
but definitely make the Russians, you know, who were the

565
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,559
more dangerous to the world. That obviously not even make

566
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,280
them junior partners, but just make them a vassal state.

567
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: Or they could have they could have, you know, they

568
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,440
It's like Paton said, they had the forces, and being

569
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:46,360
in Europe, they could have very easily just spun them

570
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,119
up and gone against the Soviets. The Soviets were already

571
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:55,599
bled fricking dry. Their entire supply chain was run by us.

572
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,119
Their entire economy was more or less run and planned

573
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,920
by US. And we could have, you know, if we

574
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,360
wanted to it. Yeah, it would have cost a lot

575
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,920
more dead, sure, But if the United States was really

576
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,639
a sort of imperial power looking out for its oh

577
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:14,599
for its own national interests, it would have done something

578
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,880
like that. It would have been able to sell it,

579
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,239
It would have been able to get get get through

580
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,440
with it, you know, the United States, the United States

581
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:26,360
was nowhere near the devastation that Europe had had. And

582
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,320
while that wasn't that wasn't known so much amongst the

583
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,480
popular conscious of the Americans. If if if we had basically,

584
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,039
if we had basically taken our forces in being and

585
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:38,599
gone after the Soviet Union and started listing all of

586
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:42,480
this stuff we knew they did, the war crimes, all

587
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:46,119
this other stuff we could have easily, we could have

588
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:49,000
easily like like spun that as a young you know,

589
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,199
we we we we allied with them to take out

590
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,239
this much more dangerous power and now we're going after

591
00:36:54,360 --> 00:37:00,360
these terrible slav whatever. But we didn't do that. Why

592
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,199
didn't we do that?

593
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:11,079
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, well there's a reason. You know, they're people constantly,

594
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:15,480
you know there. I like to in conversation when I

595
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:18,599
talk about World War Two, I like to lead with, oh,

596
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:21,039
you mean the war that the United States fought side

597
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:24,920
by side with the Communists, leading to us leading to

598
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:30,000
a century of murder. And then I let them because

599
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:32,719
they don't want to argue that. They just absolutely flip

600
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,639
it and go, oh, would you rather fight with Germany

601
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,639
and you know, fight with mister Mustache? Well, you know,

602
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,880
then he then he gets to take over the world,

603
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,880
and then you find out that you're dealing with somebody

604
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,800
who has an IQ below eighty. Because it's like, yeah,

605
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,519
I'm sure that if we if the United States and

606
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,800
Germany had allied, that the United States would have allowed

607
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,880
would have allowed him to do whatever he wanted, because

608
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,599
that's what we do, right. I mean, it's just, oh,

609
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:04,599
we're not going to put any we're not going to

610
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:08,360
put any restraints on anyone, right that we ally with

611
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:15,599
people are just they're so sad, they're so brainwashed. I mean,

612
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,159
something that we've clearly we clearly see over and over

613
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,920
again now and any kind of any kind of discussion

614
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,719
when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to Ukraine. Now,

615
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,360
one of my favorite, one of my favorite things, and

616
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,199
when I say favorite, I mean things I cannot despise

617
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,039
is people who just constantly keep bringing up the fact

618
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:44,920
that there's Nazis in Ukraine. Oh it's just like, are

619
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,760
you a right you're a right winger? Right, You're you're right,

620
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,159
you're a right wing anti fascist? Okay, great, right, yeah

621
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:52,800
that makes sense.

622
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the thing about it is, I mean,

623
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,400
and and a lot of the work, a lot of

624
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,480
the work that you're doing that my mentor, or Thomas

625
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:02,960
seven seven seven is doing with you on his on

626
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,000
your show and on the YouTube channel he's going to

627
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,440
be launching pretty soon. You know. This sort of revisionist

628
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,199
narratives have very much, very much taken hold in these communities,

629
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,400
especially and they're starting to they're starting to get some

630
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:18,719
traction outside of this community, you know, the the idea

631
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,280
that you know, perhaps perhaps we should understand World War

632
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,360
Two as it actually was as a series of competing interests,

633
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,880
but not say, competing national interests except for one instance

634
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,400
and likely the Third Reich. But outside of that, it's

635
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:38,920
kind of this it's kind of this sort of strange

636
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:43,440
series of like, you know, the the nascent national security

637
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:46,880
state that you start getting with OSS and double agents

638
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,519
and and and the sort of this sort of whole

639
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:52,599
espionage war that underpins the whole thing and kind of

640
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,639
exacerbates during the Cold War, especially after the invention of

641
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,320
weapons of mass destruction, which basically necessitate instanceutional lying in

642
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,159
order to in order to prevent or at least mitigate

643
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,760
the social consequences of people living with the realization that

644
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,519
any day, at any time, they could be eliminated entirely

645
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:16,920
from the earth regardless. You know, that's that's not to

646
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:21,119
excuse anything, because because basically the United States turns into

647
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:25,920
one big how should we say, open air laboratory after

648
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,239
the Second World War and even before. So the thing

649
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,760
is is that it wasn't it wasn't as established before. So,

650
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,519
and this isn't just a laboratory for science experiments, although

651
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:39,280
there are plenty of that. It's a laboratory for let's say,

652
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,760
let's say certain political objectives. And anytime anyone within that

653
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,239
sort of laboratory that became the United States, within this

654
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,199
this playpen that was the federal government and associated entities,

655
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,719
anyone who really kind of peeks up against that, speaks

656
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,639
against it, you know, like says, hey, maybe maybe things

657
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:03,199
shouldn't be this way, gets quashed, gets their their their

658
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:08,320
personal combat record disparaged in the papers. Socially, their name

659
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,800
is tarnished, their dragged through the mud, and they're essentially

660
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,159
banished forever from politics and from public life. And you know,

661
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,800
we're still living with the consequences of that. We're still

662
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,840
living although it's they're getting diminishing rates of return now,

663
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,239
but we're still living in a world where that's kind

664
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,039
of the norm.

665
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean we live in we live in

666
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,079
a world where it's like the is it they're calling

667
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:40,679
for Trump to Look who Trump's meeting with. Trump is

668
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,159
meeting with the you know, the white supremacist Nick Quintis,

669
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:49,960
And that means that anyone who meets you know, then

670
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,079
anyone who meets with that that guy you know, shouldn't

671
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:55,719
have a job in government. Well ask the ask the

672
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,039
next question. Should they have a job at all? Should

673
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:02,880
they be should they have a house? Should they should

674
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,719
they be allowed to go into a supermarket?

675
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: What?

676
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: What kind of world are we living in?

677
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:09,039
Speaker 2: I mean? What?

678
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So, some some people have thoughts that you don't

679
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:15,679
think that you don't agree with. Some people have thoughts

680
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:23,920
that you find reprehensible. So okay, so what I find, Yeah,

681
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,119
I've I'm very well read in Lenin, and I find

682
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,199
much to learn from him when it comes to strategy

683
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,400
and some things, some of his thinking, but for the

684
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,000
most part, his what his actions turned into or I

685
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:43,960
consider to be reprehensible, and I consider, you know, I'm

686
00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:48,719
glad that he I'm glad he died miserable and sick,

687
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,760
you know, because of what what he did to people. Okay,

688
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:57,280
there's a there's a there's.

689
00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: A German proverb that goes yahdas designa, which means everyone

690
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:03,000
gets what they deserve.

691
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,199
Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately they don't.

692
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: Well in this life for the next they get what

693
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,440
they deserve.

694
00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: Well, let's hope there is a next life, because I'm

695
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,239
my faith is it is that they're in the next life,

696
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,920
and that a lot of the things that we've a

697
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,679
lot of the things that people have done in this life,

698
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,280
they will get to pay for in the next.

699
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: And well, yeah, well, speaking speaking of speaking of people,

700
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,440
you know, paying for things, I remember one time when

701
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,559
I was when I was in college, I was going

702
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:40,440
through my college library and I found this one book.

703
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: It was titled something like Essays of American Conservatism or

704
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,719
something like that, and you know, I looked through the

705
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,639
table of contents. It was a lot of you know,

706
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:54,920
Verry Goldwater, Bill Buckley, sort of you know, milk toast stuff,

707
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:58,480
and but then my eyes kind of land on a

708
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:02,639
revel Ope Oliver Peace that somehow snuck its way into

709
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,280
this book. Now I understand mister Oliver was in many ways.

710
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,400
I don't I don't want to curse on this channel,

711
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,639
but let's just say, let's just say not not right

712
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,119
in the head in certain instances. However, he was a

713
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,039
very insightful commentator, and he was a genius philologist. He

714
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,639
was a genius at the Romance languages, and in many

715
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:25,199
ways his work is still the gold standard for people

716
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,440
in the field. But he wrote this article. It was

717
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:30,800
called I think it was titled something like the Extent

718
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:34,239
of the Communists Infiltration of America or something like that,

719
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,039
and he essentially outlines all of these things. And it

720
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:41,519
was insane that I came across this because he was

721
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,119
outlining all these things that you know, the dissident right

722
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,519
was talking about at the time that people that people

723
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:49,679
in these spheres on live streams were discussing were bringing

724
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,079
about the slow erosion of the United States. And he

725
00:44:53,239 --> 00:45:00,840
references this this book called the Pentagon Case. So the

726
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,360
Pentagon Case is as it's a novel, but it's like

727
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,360
it has it's a novel quote unquote with like names changed,

728
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,320
but it's basically a confessional and it's a confessional with

729
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,159
name change, written like a novel basically because the individual

730
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:20,119
who wrote it under the pseudonym Colonel Victor J. Fox.

731
00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:24,039
That wasn't his real name, but the pseudonym Colonel Victor J. Fox,

732
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,559
he wrote this book called the Pentagon Case. He wrote

733
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:28,320
a couple of other ones later on, but this one

734
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,760
is the important one. So Colonel Victor J. Fox was

735
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,119
a pseudonym adopted by a gentleman by the name of

736
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:38,280
Lieutenant Commander Robert A. Winston now Robert A. Winston was

737
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,800
a legend amongst the Pacific War's sort of aerial aerial

738
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,519
ace community. He was a Navy test pilot. He test

739
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:51,239
piloted the Boeing F four B, the F three F,

740
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:55,320
the Grumm and F THREEF. Rather, he flew on the Enterprise.

741
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,559
The Enterprise, by the way, had another undersung admirle by

742
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:01,639
the name of John G. Crommelin, who went home and

743
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,079
also also was politically maligned because Admiral John G. Crommelin,

744
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:09,800
who was the executive officer board the USS Enterprise, came

745
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,239
back and basically started talking about all of this same

746
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,639
stuff that was happening, and they they dragged him through

747
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,760
the mud too. They painted him as an Alabama backwards hillbilly.

748
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,880
But Robert A. Winston is interesting because because he was

749
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,760
also one of the first individuals to start working in

750
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,480
psyops all right, in syops. He after the war, after

751
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:35,960
his naval piloting career, he you know, he he got

752
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:40,679
involved with OSS, with that whole, with that whole how

753
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:45,400
would you say that whole nascent intelligence community sphere that

754
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,920
you know, the CIA hadn't been founded, yet the the

755
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,199
FBI was still very much a law enforcement entity. These

756
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,039
were the kind of people actually that Yaqui was involved with,

757
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,119
and that John John Birch the Man was involved with,

758
00:46:59,679 --> 00:46:59,920
and that.

759
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: H.

760
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: Keith Thompson were involved with. Right, So these are the

761
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,480
kind of figures you have to point out a lot

762
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:11,519
of them were double agents during the war. But Robert A. Winston,

763
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:13,639
he wrote this book called The Pentagon Case where he

764
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,599
basically outlines all of the various all of the various

765
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:26,599
sort of all of the various, the various subversions that

766
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:30,039
occur in the United States. Both in the Pentagon. I apologize,

767
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:31,559
I lost my train of thought for two seconds. I

768
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:35,800
was trying desperately to get it back. The Pentagon, for example,

769
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,039
he talks about things like how inside the Pentagon images

770
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,239
of wounded soldiers with you know, in pain getting treated

771
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,239
by medics were placed everywhere as a demoralization tactic instead

772
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,679
of triumphant photographs of soldiers coming back from a bombing

773
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,920
run or something like that. Stuff as little as that.

774
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,360
He talks about stuff like how pornographical magazines.

775
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:57,679
Speaker 3: And that.

776
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: And that that that the dumbing down of the English

777
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,760
language occurring with mass media is being purported and pushed

778
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:08,400
on the front of newspaper stands, and that educational sindards

779
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,000
were dropping amongst children. He he, you know, this is

780
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,639
all this is all kind of related to this. I

781
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:14,559
don't mean to sound like I don't mean to sound

782
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:17,960
like a character in What's What's the movie? What's the

783
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,039
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb

784
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,079
doctor strains love. I don't mean to sound like General

785
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:26,519
Ripper with all of this right, with my precious bodily

786
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:28,960
fluids being taken. But this is all, like, you know,

787
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:34,000
this is all just obvious. IQ scores have dropped, literacy

788
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,280
rates have more or less dropped. Most people can't read

789
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,960
at an eleventh grade reading level. And all of this

790
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,960
was kind of pointed out by this individual, Robert A. Winston,

791
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,320
who wrote this book and published it the year after

792
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,880
McCarthy died, because the you know, the quote unquote read

793
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,159
scare as it's called. You know, you're scared of something

794
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,840
because that thing can do you harm, all right, So

795
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,519
so it was a very it was a very justified scare.

796
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,199
And you know, he kind of gets contained with a

797
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,480
lot of these people into the John Birchers. But this

798
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,800
was this was this was real. At the time, there

799
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,360
was a significant portion of the US population kind of

800
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:20,239
wondering what was going on and why why this great

801
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,000
victory that they had achieved in World War Two, which

802
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,440
America was the most powerful nation on earth, with the

803
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:29,440
best industry, with the most strong army, the best political

804
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:32,320
quote unquote, the best political system, and all this other stuff,

805
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,679
and how they just all pissed it away in the

806
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:41,920
decades after. I don't know, I mean, I just don't

807
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,280
know why. I don't know why any of it was done.

808
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:56,199
Speaker 1: Well, Kley Bono, who benefits? And it always comes down

809
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,960
to that comes down to everything I mean, and we

810
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:01,840
see it today.

811
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: You know, I.

812
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: Applied that today to the whole Kanye thing. It's like, Okay,

813
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,480
who's benefiting from him going out and saying these things?

814
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:14,039
But I don't know that.

815
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:19,079
Speaker 2: I do not, not not the individuals, not the individuals

816
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:23,400
that tend to ascribe themselves as the traditionalist or you know,

817
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,920
even even you know, further right than conservative individual basically

818
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,840
normal people with normal opinions who just want the United

819
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,480
States and other countries like it to remain true to

820
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,719
what they've always been, to these founding principles it doesn't

821
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,039
benefit us, you know, I mean some people I have

822
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:44,360
I have disagreements with my mentor over this. You know,

823
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,920
I'm not gonna I'm not going to discuss Adolphus Heedler

824
00:50:48,039 --> 00:50:52,440
one way or another. But like, you know, how does

825
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,119
it benefit us to go on national television and just

826
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:59,039
start talking about this individual and all that other stuff

827
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:01,880
because he's been dead for seventy years. Whether you think

828
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,679
he was the greatest man who ever lived or the

829
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,840
worst villain who ever lived, he's been dead for seventy

830
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,440
years and he never came to my country, right, I mean,

831
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:13,159
I mean that doesn't benefit us. That doesn't benefit us.

832
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:16,039
It's like you said, que bono, what benefits us?

833
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:24,639
Speaker 1: The to bring this back to where we started with

834
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,360
McCarthy's you you look at something like his speech there,

835
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:37,360
and you see how far we've fallen. Look at the pros,

836
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,920
look at what he's saying, Look at how he's saying it,

837
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,239
look at the the desperation in his voice. Do you

838
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,960
see anyone on the quote unquote right right now, even

839
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:54,960
those the America first Trumper people you know, who've been

840
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:04,360
elected to office, speaking with the kind of of urgency

841
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,639
that he's speaking of. I mean, he we are living

842
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,000
in a time that is much more dangerous than he

843
00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:14,400
was living in. And who is who are the ones

844
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,599
who are screaming loudice, Who are the ones who are

845
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,480
trying to put a message out there that sounds halfway

846
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:28,360
intelligent in the current world we live in, podcasters, sub

847
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,360
stack writers. I mean, look where we are, man, I mean,

848
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,519
this is like it's literally up to us. There is

849
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:40,159
no Joseph McCarthy out there. It's up to us.

850
00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:43,079
Speaker 2: And the ones, the ones that do show themselves are

851
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:46,280
always going to be fair weather friends who just who

852
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,840
just know where the wind is blowing.

853
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. Uh, I was reading a I

854
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,519
shared a tweet today. I think it was, or it

855
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,280
was I might have shared it on Facebook. I'm still

856
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,960
on Facebook because it's a great place to promote the

857
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:07,880
show and everything like that. But it was a tweet

858
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,760
that said where he said, Look, I'm not saying that

859
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,400
forming a traditionalist monarchy somewhere in northern Ohio with the

860
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,079
plan of reconquering America over five centuries is a realistic plan.

861
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,559
I'm just saying it's more realistic than thinking voting Republican

862
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:24,800
will get anyone out of this.

863
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,519
Speaker 2: I think it's more realistic than I'm thinking voting will

864
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:32,719
get anything out of this generally. You know, I make

865
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:34,960
I know, I make a lot of Hey, you know,

866
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,639
I make people angry. Oh, Paul third, he's a registered Democrat. Now,

867
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,960
I just I say that because I want to tell

868
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:44,639
I'll tell you all the reason why I say that

869
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,159
right now. Voting doesn't matter. Voting has never mattered all

870
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,239
right in the United States. You know what matters. It matters.

871
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,440
It matters where in the pipeline of power. You sit

872
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,960
and guess what. The pipeline of power is a lot

873
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:01,800
more accessible than people think it is, right, it's it's

874
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,079
a lot more accessible than just then just going up

875
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:07,519
to Congress and whipping up a frenzy about, you know,

876
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,639
one thing or another. You know, even if there is

877
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,480
something to have a frenzy whipped up about, and even

878
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:17,679
when the time favors it. Now is a lot different. Now, Now,

879
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,039
all that matters is basically going out and trying to

880
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:24,199
trying to build things with each other, trying to support

881
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,119
each other, trying to aid each other, and trying to

882
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:29,960
make sure that something like what happened to Senator McCarthy,

883
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:32,800
who will be rehabilitated, and there will be statues for him.

884
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,280
Can never happen to any of us.

885
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's I think one one of the

886
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:45,280
easiest ways to get into that position of power. If

887
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,239
you if you live in a small town, run for sheriff,

888
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,159
run for shriff. It's the one thing that the John

889
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:56,880
Birch Society always had right was that if if you

890
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:03,320
have a strong sheriff who is dedicated to liberty and

891
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,800
dedicated to localism and dedicated to his town and hates

892
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:14,239
the federal government, you're you have something that most locales

893
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:14,960
don't have.

894
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: Or if you have a sheriff that already does that,

895
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,639
you don't need a run for sheriff. But be one

896
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:23,199
of his top guys, Be one of the guys supporting them,

897
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,119
supporting him, show up, show up to his rallies, show up,

898
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,679
you know, get go door to door. You know, it

899
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,239
really does start with you. And in all honesty, if

900
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,000
you have you know we were talking about I do

901
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:35,400
a weekly space. I know we're coming, we're coming pretty

902
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,280
close to the end here, but I do a weekly

903
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,119
space on my Twitter every Wednesday night. The time varies,

904
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,599
but I think I'm going to have it be from

905
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:46,159
like eight pm to ten pm in the future Eastern Standard.

906
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:48,639
But we were talking about this on Wednesday night in

907
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,880
this space I do on Twitter called Paul's Garden Party,

908
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,320
and we had an individual who actually was very active

909
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:58,199
in local government and was very well aware of what

910
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,679
occurred within localities, and he basically said, look, you have

911
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,880
a couple of people less than ten people. If you're

912
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,760
friends with less than ten people, and you all live

913
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,199
around the same area, where you can move them to

914
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,000
around the same area within a year, you could more

915
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,559
or less take over a locality. You could have people

916
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:20,079
run for town council, county treasurer, stuff like that. And

917
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,800
that is where you basically control everything, at least not

918
00:56:24,159 --> 00:56:27,039
control everything, but basically you're at that point. You're at

919
00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:30,559
that node. You have contested that node, and that's what

920
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:32,960
it takes. That's what it's going to take. That's not

921
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,000
where you stop. The problem is a lot of people

922
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:37,719
think that's where you stop is your local community. You

923
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,280
don't stop. There's always a next step. But that's the

924
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:40,920
first step.

925
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the first step, and shut up about what

926
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:50,039
you're doing, you know, well, I mean getting together and

927
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:52,360
having a plan and showing people a plan for what

928
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,079
you're doing is important to the people on the ground

929
00:56:57,119 --> 00:56:59,480
who are helping you, who are hoping to be helped

930
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:04,679
by you. But when it comes to really laying out

931
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:09,559
what you're doing publicly, shut up. But yeah, I've written

932
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,599
a lot about, you know, having a plan and having

933
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:15,159
a plan, and I think people are like then, people

934
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:17,519
are like, well, talk about what you and I'm like, look,

935
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:19,360
I'm in the middle of my own plan. I'm not

936
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,199
going to tell you what the hell I'm doing. I'm

937
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:24,320
not telling you where I'm going, and you know what

938
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,920
I'm looking at. And yeah, here's a comment. Libertarians have

939
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,599
been trying to do this in New Hampshire. Sure, okay,

940
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,880
you got a couple of problems with New Hampshire. One,

941
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,719
it's cold as hell and people don't want to move there. Two,

942
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,960
you're surrounded by liberals who all they have to do

943
00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:41,039
is cross the border and go into the state. And

944
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:44,159
three a lot of those that's not going to work

945
00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:49,880
unless they're explicitly right wing. See Robert Conquest. And I've

946
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been to the New Hampshire twice to speak at Free State,

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Free State Project events and yeah, there the right wingers

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are there, but they are outnumbered. The right wingers who

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call themselves libertarians there are outnumbered, and that just doesn't work.

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It doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, we have a we have a super

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cheat here actually real quick that I would like to

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read out from Paul W.

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Speaker 1: Paul W.

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Speaker 2: Hall rather for three US dollars, thank you very much,

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mister Hall for supporting the Old Glory Club. And he says,

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were there any ties between McCarthyite Republicans and strong Therman

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style Southern Democrats, I'd imagine they'd have been natural allies

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in this period. Well, you would think that the problem,

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the problem was strong Therman and the problem with Southern Democrats.

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And this is something, this is something that myself and

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individuals like Ryan Turnip Steed and Christopher Sambatch have tried

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to have tried to get into the consciousness that the

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Southern Democrats were interested pretty much first and foremost in

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what benefited the South, specifically their own states. Strom Thurman

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very rarely got involved. This is one of the things,

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one of actually the strengths the Southern Democrats did. Other

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than like the whole civil rights issue, the Southern Democrats

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didn't really speak up one way or another on much

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of anything. Yeah, they said a couple of platitudes here

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and there, you know about how communist subversion was was

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was you know, probably not the best thing. But they

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weren't very involved with the McCarthy Art Republicans. This was

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actually kind of limited to uh, to McCarthy himself and

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his coterie.

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Speaker 1: Well, on that note, I think we should get going.

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I know you have a you kind of have a

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hard out, so you want to you want to, I'll

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just say the Pequanana Show and I'm trying to put

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some of our talks up on h on my feed

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and drive some people here to the Old Glory Club

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because I really believe in what we're doing, even if

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I always seem to be traveling on Tuesday nights.

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Speaker 2: But the.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so the Pekenonas Show podcast is everywhere, and

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Pete substack dot com. Uh what do you what do

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you have to say?

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Speaker 2: Oh, just you know, follow me on Twitter at cav

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King Paul, subscribe to my sub stack. Even though I

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haven't published anything for like a month and a half,

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two months, but I have. I have a bunch of

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articles in the hopper right now and I'm probably gonna

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put them out in the Flurry when I get some

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time on Telegram, Hotel Fahrenheit, and but more important than

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all of that, support the old Glory Club, like share,

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support all of our content, and I'm be friends with

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everyone that you know in your life.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you everyone for showing up. I think we

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had close to one hundred people on this one at

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one point. Thank you for the super chat and till

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the next time.

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Speaker 2: More people re elected. That a completing before people and

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more than that