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Speaker 3: And now, what are your reporting? I got a screen
Speaker 3: going on here. Something just kid, my dog, something killed
Speaker 3: your dog? My dog? We're flying through he or over
Speaker 3: the tree. I don't know how it did it?
Speaker 4: Okay, damn it.
Speaker 3: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 3: over the fence and he was dead. And once you
Speaker 3: hit the ground, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 3: saw was my dog coming over the fence.
Speaker 5: One. What are you reportting?
Speaker 3: We got some wond or.
Speaker 1: Something crawling around out here?
Speaker 3: Did you see what it was?
Speaker 1: Was?
Speaker 3: It was seeing enough. I'm out here looking through the
Speaker 3: window now and I don't see anything. I don't want
Speaker 3: to go outside here. Hello, hit the boddy out here?
Speaker 3: Went on out there? Let's thought of a bitch of
Speaker 3: about sexty forty nine.
Speaker 2: I don't know easy out there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, greetings, this friend Alaska, thanks for joining me. What
Speaker 3: I wanted to shirt with you today comes from Michael
Speaker 3: and Courtney. They lived in Idaho. They recently moved to Montana,
Speaker 3: and they loved the outdoors. They loved it a lot.
Speaker 3: One of their friends up here. I told them about
Speaker 3: to Kinnect Glacier and how beautiful it is and there's
Speaker 3: plenty of hiking and all that. So they did what
Speaker 3: they had to do to make a trip up here.
Speaker 3: Their friends, unfortunately, weren't going to be in the state
Speaker 3: at that time. Because they were going out of state
Speaker 3: for a vacation and they were here early last June,
Speaker 3: and so they ended up staying out at the lodge.
Speaker 3: So being without a tour guide or without anyone you know,
Speaker 3: locally who really knew the good places to go, they
Speaker 3: made their own according they did their own things. So
Speaker 3: right near the lodges Hunter's Creek. Now Hunter's Creek runs
Speaker 3: south from the Knick River between the glacier and the
Speaker 3: highway and stuff, and it runs south and it cuts
Speaker 3: and cars back up in between two mountains. Beautiful country,
Speaker 3: my goodness. But Hunter's Creek can be pretty rapid river,
Speaker 3: heavy rainfalls and stuff that could be washed out. It's
Speaker 3: not for the meet because Michael and Courtney had plenty
Speaker 3: of experience. It was calm day, it hadn't been raining
Speaker 3: for about a week, so they jumped on it. They
Speaker 3: go up Hunter's Creek, they started their journey. It would
Speaker 3: be to the east side of the creek, going on
Speaker 3: up through the brush and all that. Now, it was
Speaker 3: a beautiful day, is how it started out. For the
Speaker 3: first he said, three hours or so. Because they were
Speaker 3: doing bushwhacken, they were dealing with mosquitoes, they were doing
Speaker 3: weird sounds they were hearing, but they assumed it was okay,
Speaker 3: a bear or some other Alaskan wildlife was sensing them,
Speaker 3: winding them whatever and clearing out. So far, so good.
Speaker 3: They had some bare spray, They had a single small
Speaker 3: two man tent, and they had their survival stuff as
Speaker 3: they call it, as far as freeze, dried meals, little
Speaker 3: bunsen burner type, sturrough stove whatever. They were ready to
Speaker 3: potentially spend a night out there, and they were really
Speaker 3: feeling great. It was awesome. And once they get back
Speaker 3: to the point of the creek, there's a split the vak.
Speaker 3: It looks like it continues on up, but it's very
Speaker 3: short distance. But Hunter's Creek banks off when you're facing
Speaker 3: south and banks off to the left and carves back
Speaker 3: up through. There's a lot of gravel and stuff in
Speaker 3: through there. Again, it wasn't for the meek. They were
Speaker 3: really earning this, you know what I mean, the brushes, dance,
Speaker 3: dealing with the mosquitoes, breaking trail a lot. The game
Speaker 3: trails seem to go uphill versus they were trying to
Speaker 3: skirt around, and there was a few in there, but
Speaker 3: it was really really hard going for him. It took time.
Speaker 3: Once they got to that split where it continued straight,
Speaker 3: but it hooks off to the left there, the weather
Speaker 3: started changing that opportunity at that point. According to what
Speaker 3: Michael was saying, that Courtney was like, Yeah, let's just
Speaker 3: do it. We got our rein gear stuff, we got
Speaker 3: everything we need. We're here. We may not get a
Speaker 3: chance to come back, we may get caught up doing
Speaker 3: other stuff. So they decide, Okay, we're gonna go on up.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get back up in between these mountains and
Speaker 3: just exist there and feel the energy and do what
Speaker 3: they wanted to do. Now, once they make that turn,
Speaker 3: weather comes in on them pretty fast, and that's how
Speaker 3: it happens here in Alaska. Started raining. The ceiling just
Speaker 3: came down on them to where they're pretty much socked in.
Speaker 3: Imagine just a drizzly rain that's essentially like a fog,
Speaker 3: and that's what it is when the clouds touch the ground.
Speaker 3: They continued on. They would stop every once in a while
Speaker 3: because they were hearing noises off in the distance, but
Speaker 3: being new to Alaska, they were reasoning it away, it's
Speaker 3: this sound. It must be this, and I hear this
Speaker 3: animal makes this noise, and so they're explaining in a
Speaker 3: way amongst each other. They freely admit they were doing
Speaker 3: that to not freak themselves out because they knew nothing, really,
Speaker 3: and they feel foolish, trust me, they feel very foolish
Speaker 3: for just tearing out like that with just some bear spray,
Speaker 3: because their friends offered them a firearm for while they
Speaker 3: were here, and they turned it down they saw no need.
Speaker 3: Michael was like, I'm not a hunter, I don't care
Speaker 3: for guns per se. I won't need it. We have
Speaker 3: bear spray, and we're not going to be doing anything
Speaker 3: too crazy out here. At least that's their initial thoughts.
Speaker 3: They get back up in there, they keep going. Hats
Speaker 3: off to them for being adventurous, I get it. But
Speaker 3: they kept going even when there were certain things happening
Speaker 3: around them that maybe they should have just stopped where
Speaker 3: they were and let it go or whatever. But they
Speaker 3: make their way up and they are on the what
Speaker 3: would be the north side of Hunter's Creek, up against
Speaker 3: where the gravel meets the brush, and that's where they
Speaker 3: decided to hunker down under some alders and willows overhanging
Speaker 3: the bank because the way the raindom stuff is raising
Speaker 3: the level of creek, not enough to be danger to
Speaker 3: them because it was still multiple feet away. They weren't
Speaker 3: in the immediate danger of getting washed out, but things
Speaker 3: were changing, So Michael said, they set up their little
Speaker 3: two man tent. It was just so drizzling and wet.
Speaker 3: Everything was soaked. What they wanted to do was start
Speaker 3: a fire or at least use their stove to start
Speaker 3: drying out some of their clothes. They were having a
Speaker 3: hard go of it at first. They didn't want that
Speaker 3: sternal burner or whatever inside the tent because the co
Speaker 3: two and potentially catching the thing on fire. Right, So
Speaker 3: they were trying to figure out a nice meetum. So
Speaker 3: they took the rain fly and extended it. Instead of
Speaker 3: clipping it to the little dumb tint they had, they
Speaker 3: clipped it up onto some brush to where they had
Speaker 3: a little bit of an overhang to make a makeshift
Speaker 3: little clothesline deal to start drying out some of their
Speaker 3: clothes with this little burner in the meantime, heat up
Speaker 3: some instant coffee. Now, according to Courtney, she was sitting
Speaker 3: there and she was just hanging up some socks or
Speaker 3: something along those lines and trying to make a mcgui
Speaker 3: for a little spot to hang it to where it
Speaker 3: would dry and actually catch some of the heat and
Speaker 3: not just be wasting time. So as she's doing this,
Speaker 3: she hears a whistle, and she said the whistle was
Speaker 3: so loud. It was sharp, crisp, very short. She said,
Speaker 3: it sounded like someone was in her ear doing it,
Speaker 3: just real loud, real fast. It happened real quickly, and
Speaker 3: it was coming from the opposite side of the brush
Speaker 3: where they were pushed right up on. So the opening
Speaker 3: of the tent, the little dump tin is facing the
Speaker 3: bank where the brush is hanging down, and they got
Speaker 3: the little fly ties off to the branches, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. She was startled because she was turned basically,
Speaker 3: her left shoulder was towards the opening of the tent
Speaker 3: and her right shoulder was facing the tree, so it
Speaker 3: was right in her right ear. She said, it sounded
Speaker 3: like it whistled right in her ear, and it startled
Speaker 3: her and she stumbled back. Mike let this point was
Speaker 3: digging out some stuff in his pack inside the dump
Speaker 3: tent of trying to repack some things and find some stuff,
Speaker 3: some dry clothes and whatnot, and she was startled so
Speaker 3: badly she flopped into the tent and it startled him,
Speaker 3: and he was like, what the hell because he did
Speaker 3: not hear the whistle. He had been sitting there listening
Speaker 3: for all the different sounds. He was the first one
Speaker 3: to pick up on it. So Courtney found it very
Speaker 3: odd that he didn't hear what she just heard, because
Speaker 3: it startled her enough to put her into the tent,
Speaker 3: just from the jolt of the shock. She's like, how
Speaker 3: could you not hear that? Instead of arguing, he was like,
Speaker 3: he put up his hand, like, hold on, let's be
Speaker 3: quite a second. And so they're sitting there and it
Speaker 3: happened again, and on the second one, Michael heard it
Speaker 3: same identical whistle. According to what Courtney said, it was
Speaker 3: very sharp, crisp and short, just one note, very sharp.
Speaker 3: They both look at each other, whoa And he was
Speaker 3: like whispering to her, I don't know how I missed
Speaker 3: the first one. That's crazy that I didn't hear that
Speaker 3: first one. That is loud, he said. Acoustically, you could
Speaker 3: feel the whistle, even though it was short and sharp,
Speaker 3: you felt it. There was a concussiveness to it. They
Speaker 3: sat there for a minute, looking out the opening of
Speaker 3: this dome tent into the brush. It's daytime. What's the
Speaker 3: land of the midnight sun? That time of year, Grantua
Speaker 3: wasn't solstice yet, so they had many hours before it
Speaker 3: got dark. But it wasn't gonna get like pitch black dark, right.
Speaker 3: So as they're sitting there trying to assess what's happening,
Speaker 3: they start hearing movement in the brush. Michael already had
Speaker 3: the bear spray ready to go. They had a small
Speaker 3: canister and a big canister, and from the sounds he
Speaker 3: was hearing, he grabbed the big canister and told her
Speaker 3: to stay inside, even though it's a little domb tint.
Speaker 3: He said. He felt foolish telling her to stay there,
Speaker 3: like somehow she was safer in this dumb tint, even
Speaker 3: though there's nothing too. It's this thin piece of nylon
Speaker 3: he gets out. He's in the process of getting on
Speaker 3: his raincoat again, to walk out and examine the brush
Speaker 3: and see what's potentially making this noise and if it's
Speaker 3: a bear scared off, mace it whatever. As he's doing so,
Speaker 3: they heard the whistle again now, he said, just as
Speaker 3: he was just fixing the arm of his raincoat to
Speaker 3: get it on and flip the hood up as so
Speaker 3: as the hood was up, that's when the third whistle happened,
Speaker 3: and the brush started shaking real violently. And it wasn't
Speaker 3: just one branch, he said. It seemed like the whole
Speaker 3: brush in front of him was a lie, just shaking
Speaker 3: back and forth. He said, a lot of the leaves
Speaker 3: were still sprouting and coming in. It was very dense
Speaker 3: though he had a field of view, but it was
Speaker 3: obscured by the sheer density of all the small plants
Speaker 3: and stuff because they were just blooming some of them.
Speaker 3: Some of them had been bloomed to the leaves and everything.
Speaker 3: It was a very surreal moment for him because he
Speaker 3: couldn't see anything, but yet everything seemed to be moving
Speaker 3: in front of him, jostling back and forth. Of course,
Speaker 3: with all the water falling. He hears Courtney's squeal. Now
Speaker 3: he's ten fifteen feet away. She's literally right off his
Speaker 3: right hand side. He turns to look at her, and
Speaker 3: she's looking back at him, mouthing quietly, get back in here,
Speaker 3: get back, come back. So he takes a few steps
Speaker 3: because he's weirded out. This shouldn't be happening. All this
Speaker 3: brush is it's just shaken like crazy. He goes back
Speaker 3: over to him. Squat's down and he's holding that bear's brain.
Speaker 3: He's shaking real hard. He still got the little safety
Speaker 3: tab on there and all that. He wasn't ready plain
Speaker 3: and simple and those were his words too. Now he
Speaker 3: leans down to Courtney and she said, it's over there.
Speaker 3: It's over there. He was like, is it a bear?
Speaker 3: Is it a bear of moose? And she just shook
Speaker 3: her head. She kept shaking her head. Now. When I
Speaker 3: asked Courtney about this particular moment, she said she didn't
Speaker 3: know what she saw. She said it looked like a man,
Speaker 3: but not a man. It looked like a mountain man,
Speaker 3: but not really, because the skin color was different, the
Speaker 3: eyes were different. It had a very wide jaw, she said. Essentially,
Speaker 3: when Michael stood up and was standing over and fixing
Speaker 3: his coat, that whistle happened. It caught her attention just
Speaker 3: as the brush started coming alive. She said she saw
Speaker 3: this thing looking at her through a small little opening
Speaker 3: in all the brush. She said, about twelve feet away,
Speaker 3: looking at her. When she looked at it, fairly typical.
Speaker 3: It was like a very tan colored skin, like a buckskin.
Speaker 3: Heavy wrinkles, black eyes. There was no whites to the eyes.
Speaker 3: They just looked beady and black, whit set, jaw, pursed lips.
Speaker 3: It didn't show its teeth or anything like that, and
Speaker 3: she couldn't make out ears. She said the head was conical,
Speaker 3: but not really. It was human shape basically, but much
Speaker 3: larger looking at her. She said, once she made eye
Speaker 3: contact with it, that's when it was like prone on
Speaker 3: the ground almost because from her vantage point, she's looking
Speaker 3: up at the bank, and there's a couple of feet
Speaker 3: difference between where the gravel of their tent is at
Speaker 3: and the bank in the trees. Right, she's looking up
Speaker 3: basically up at this thing, and she said it almost
Speaker 3: looked like it was doing a push up when it whistled.
Speaker 3: Then it rolled itself back almost out of her view
Speaker 3: and started grabbed a couple of those bands to start
Speaker 3: shaking everything right, And because their tent flies were tied
Speaker 3: to this tree, the whole tent was shaking as well.
Speaker 3: Now as they're assessing what the hell, and she's explaining
Speaker 3: what I just explained to you to Michael. Michael's trying
Speaker 3: to fumble with the little safety, little pull off thing
Speaker 3: for his bear spray. He trusts Courtney, so when she
Speaker 3: said that's what she saw, he held it. He was like, okay,
Speaker 3: that's what you saw. He was confused by it, but
Speaker 3: he wasn't going to doubt her because it was obvious
Speaker 3: she saw something. Even if he wasn't sure if she
Speaker 3: knew what she saw, he knew that she was freaked out.
Speaker 3: So he pops that safety off of there. As he does,
Speaker 3: he shake him pretty hard, he said. He stepped back
Speaker 3: away from under where they had that rain fly tied
Speaker 3: off so he could stand up and try to get
Speaker 3: a better vantage point. So what he did was he
Speaker 3: wasn't sure how well the bear spray was going to work,
Speaker 3: so he shakes the canister. He turns away from the
Speaker 3: tent facing towards the creek facing south, and gives it
Speaker 3: a little burst. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these messages. So happens that
Speaker 3: the wind was blowing towards him a little more than
Speaker 3: he had realized when he did that, So the main
Speaker 3: blast went out, but the smaller particulates that kind of
Speaker 3: bloomed off of that initial spray made their way back
Speaker 3: to him. And also Courtney. When that happened, they both
Speaker 3: start hacking. So now they got a different dilemma. They're
Speaker 3: trying to catch that breath. They just got o seed,
Speaker 3: and so they're hacking. They're like, holy crap, that stuff's powerful.
Speaker 3: And so during this little discussion about how bad it is,
Speaker 3: Courtney starts looking for these baby wipes that they bring
Speaker 3: for bathroom use or just a bird baths or whatever
Speaker 3: when you're out in the field. I use it myself too.
Speaker 3: They come in handy for real. She's looking for the wipes.
Speaker 3: And he squatted back down, talking or and he set
Speaker 3: the canister down. He said, when he set the canister down,
Speaker 3: he heard a grunt in the runt sounded like it
Speaker 3: was coming directly from behind the tent, so it startled him.
Speaker 3: He grabbed the canister again, stood up, got out, made
Speaker 3: his way out from underneath that rain fly, and stood
Speaker 3: up to look over the backside of the tent, and
Speaker 3: he saw nothing. So he walked around the tent, looking
Speaker 3: back towards the bank, trying to make out if there
Speaker 3: was anything. He's just not seen because of his vantage
Speaker 3: pointing his perspective. But there's nothing in his line of sight.
Speaker 3: He said. He comes back around and squat's down, tells Courtney,
Speaker 3: I feel like we are being stalked. Courtney says the
Speaker 3: same thing. They agree that they do not want to
Speaker 3: stay there. They don't know what to do because whatever's
Speaker 3: making the noise out in front of him is still there.
Speaker 3: It's not a constant of rustling and noise making, but
Speaker 3: it's happening often enough. They know whatever it is right
Speaker 3: over there in that general area. Courtney said. She told Michael,
Speaker 3: let's go, let's grab our packs. The tent was separate
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. They're a little stove, they're wet,
Speaker 3: clothes were good without it. She alre had already put
Speaker 3: the lid on little sternal type burning She had already
Speaker 3: put the lid on it to shut it off or whatever.
Speaker 3: And she tells him, let's go, let's back out of here.
Speaker 3: We can retrieve the stuff or replace it. Either way.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be here. Michael agrees. Now at
Speaker 3: this point in time, as they gathering their stuff, Courtney
Speaker 3: was one gathering the stuff, because remember Michael was unpacking
Speaker 3: some stuff out of his pack looking for dry clothes,
Speaker 3: so Courtney's stuff what she wanted to stuff in there
Speaker 3: and zipped it up for him and got her own stuff.
Speaker 3: Slides the backpack over to Michael, who's standing watch holding
Speaker 3: this bear spray, hoping that he doesn't have to use it.
Speaker 3: Fortunately for him, they were facing the right direction because
Speaker 3: he said the wind was at our back at this point,
Speaker 3: because it was coming from the south blowing down. For
Speaker 3: the most part, it was blowing away from them in
Speaker 3: the direction they were looking. Once his pack was slid
Speaker 3: over to him, he squatted down, got it on, kept
Speaker 3: an eye out. He was hyper paranoid at this point,
Speaker 3: and he said he stood back up holding the canister,
Speaker 3: and he noticed brown movement about twenty feet or so,
Speaker 3: because from his vantage point looking up a little bit
Speaker 3: of a rise on the bank and stuff with the brush,
Speaker 3: he was guessing it was about twenty feet. So he figured,
Speaker 3: you know what, I have nothing to lose at this point.
Speaker 3: You know, this bear spray is supposed to have a
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty foot dispersion when it shoots out, So he
Speaker 3: points it up in that direction and lets it go.
Speaker 3: He didn't empty the whole can or anything. He just
Speaker 3: sent a nice cloud that direction. A courtney at this time,
Speaker 3: she said she was just standing up and getting her
Speaker 3: back fitted and connected in the front. When he let
Speaker 3: that bear spray burst go. As soon as he let
Speaker 3: it go, and it drifted back in through the little
Speaker 3: undergrowth and all that stuff, he said, the whole place
Speaker 3: lit up with activity. He couldn't make out what was
Speaker 3: going on, and all he could see was little blips
Speaker 3: of hair or whatever it was. He couldn't really make
Speaker 3: out because it was just it was so fast and
Speaker 3: so broken and startling to him. But there was a
Speaker 3: lot of movement going on back there, and then they
Speaker 3: heard some whoops. They heard four consecutive whoops. They said.
Speaker 3: It almost sounded like a distress call kind of deal, right,
Speaker 3: So that really freaked them out. Michael grabs her arm
Speaker 3: and starts leading her back down Hunter's Creek. When they
Speaker 3: start getting a little bit of a distance between the
Speaker 3: tin and where they were standing and where they happened
Speaker 3: to be, they stopped and they were listening, because again
Speaker 3: after the whoops, it pretty much went quite except for
Speaker 3: the sound of the rustling of the brush. From what
Speaker 3: Michael said, all of a sudden he heard stomping, bipedal stomping
Speaker 3: coming down the riverbank just inside the brush. Their direction,
Speaker 3: and that's when he turned, held her hand and they
Speaker 3: took off running. Now understand, this isn't all just fine gravel.
Speaker 3: There's bigger boulders, smaller boulders. They very in size. It's raining,
Speaker 3: it's misty as hell. It's pretty much like a fog,
Speaker 3: a rain fog, and they're trying to retreat as fast
Speaker 3: as they can, listening to the sound off to their
Speaker 3: right as they're going, because it had caught up to
Speaker 3: him and was starting to pass them, Michael said, for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, he stopped. Courtney smacked into him and they
Speaker 3: both stumbled and Michael fell down, he said, as he
Speaker 3: was getting back up, because this is all happeneding real fast,
Speaker 3: he said, he jumped right back up, but then fell
Speaker 3: right back down because he had hurt his knee and
Speaker 3: didn't realize how bad it was until he tried to
Speaker 3: put pressure on it again. So he went to the
Speaker 3: ground again, and he said he was looking up at Courtney.
Speaker 3: Oh crap, this pretty bad. I can't put weight on it.
Speaker 3: They're having this little discussion because at this point, understand,
Speaker 3: the bank is a little taller, and so whatever is
Speaker 3: making that noise is definitely out of sight. But they
Speaker 3: can't make out exactly what it's doing or where it's
Speaker 3: at because the elevation changes are coming down the creek.
Speaker 3: Where they were with the tint, there was just maybe
Speaker 3: a couple feet difference between the actual bank and the gravel,
Speaker 3: and when they were coming back down that distance grew.
Speaker 3: It was about four foot of bank. They were having
Speaker 3: a harder time making out what was going on back there.
Speaker 3: So he's standing there hurting. He's trying to bend his
Speaker 3: knee and get it to where it won't give out
Speaker 3: on him. Once he reached a point to where he
Speaker 3: could hobble, he said, twenty minutes must have passed. The
Speaker 3: noise got dead silent. Once it was silent over where
Speaker 3: they had heard the noise paralleling them out, they heard
Speaker 3: noise back up towards the direction of the tent, and
Speaker 3: at this point they had gone enough distance to where
Speaker 3: the tint they could make it out. But there was
Speaker 3: something over by the tent, but with the mist and
Speaker 3: the way it was, it was really hard to see.
Speaker 3: Their tent was neon green. The fly was black, so
Speaker 3: it stood out. The rain fly had neon green riding
Speaker 3: on it or whatever for whatever manufacturer, but the tint
Speaker 3: was bright and they could make it out, but barely
Speaker 3: with how dense that cloud was on him. They said
Speaker 3: they saw something dark moving in the mist, and it
Speaker 3: looked like it was going back and forth around their
Speaker 3: tent as they're trying to figure out what the hell
Speaker 3: to do. So at that point, they said, they turned
Speaker 3: back around and Mike did his best, hobbling as best
Speaker 3: he could. They backtracked to where they trail marked the
Speaker 3: path they took to drop down onto the gravel part
Speaker 3: of Hunter's Creek. When they were gutting through all that
Speaker 3: brush and stuff, they tied some trail markers to so
Speaker 3: when they were on their way back out of there,
Speaker 3: they knew, oh, that's our trail, and they basically had
Speaker 3: trail broken there already. So they reached that point, and
Speaker 3: when they did, he was having a hard time getting
Speaker 3: up the bank, so he was trying to turn and
Speaker 3: shimmy himself up because his knee was really hurting back.
Speaker 3: He's still having issues with it to this day. He's
Speaker 3: getting himself up and Courtney's already up top there. She's
Speaker 3: holding the bear spray at this point, and he keeps looking.
Speaker 3: He can't stop looking back up the creek. He's freaking,
Speaker 3: he said, he sent something ominous was coming because everything
Speaker 3: was getting more and more dense with the fog and stuff.
Speaker 3: It was just adding to the terror. And I asked him,
Speaker 3: I was like, what kind of feeling were you truly?
Speaker 3: Were you just freaked out and like you would basically
Speaker 3: let that amplify because you were freaked out, or was
Speaker 3: it something that felt projected with the fear part? And
Speaker 3: he said no, the thing that stood out to him
Speaker 3: the most was in those moments he was scared, but
Speaker 3: he felt there was a weird kind of curiosity thing
Speaker 3: going on. And he said he doesn't know where he
Speaker 3: got that idea. Even though he was in fear, he
Speaker 3: felt like whatever was happening was this weird curiosity thing.
Speaker 3: He couldn't really flesh it out. It was just something
Speaker 3: that he felt at that time. As he was getting
Speaker 3: up on the bank, just as he got himself squared
Speaker 3: and was about to stand up, they heard some more
Speaker 3: whoops and it sounded like it was coming right back
Speaker 3: from where their tent was, and so they stood there
Speaker 3: a minute trying to figure it out. Right now, they
Speaker 3: had their phones, they had cameras and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: But because of the rain and stuff, they had everything
Speaker 3: stowed away in their backpacks. So Courtney's, hey, let's get
Speaker 3: out one of our phones. Let's record some of this
Speaker 3: so we have some kind of record of it. And
Speaker 3: so Michael's yeah, go ahead, and so he's letting her
Speaker 3: dig in his pack to get his phone out and
Speaker 3: power it up and all that to start recording some
Speaker 3: of this stuff. Because the noises that started after the
Speaker 3: whoops they heard were just they said, god awful, like
Speaker 3: initially like some hyenas cackling. Some of it just sounded
Speaker 3: like stuff they ain't never heard before. They couldn't even
Speaker 3: imitate it. It was just weird vocalizations, right. So she's
Speaker 3: trying to power up his phone and it's just not
Speaker 3: turning on, even though it was fully charged when they
Speaker 3: put it in the pack. So he goes, turn around,
Speaker 3: let's use yours. For whatever reason, mine must be dead.
Speaker 3: I'll dig yours out and we'll use your phone to record.
Speaker 3: So they do that same result, the phone was dead.
Speaker 3: They said screw this. They started going They wanted to
Speaker 3: try to capture some of it, but they just the
Speaker 3: devices weren't working, you know what I mean. And so
Speaker 3: they continued on, and he said for about an hour
Speaker 3: they had heard movement behind them periodically that would make
Speaker 3: them stop, turn around, look, point to bear, spray, nothing, nothing,
Speaker 3: absolutely nothing, so they would continue on. And he said
Speaker 3: it was only for about the first hour and then
Speaker 3: all that stopped. And then a little while later they
Speaker 3: started hearing different noises, but they could tell, oh, that
Speaker 3: must have been in the ground, squirrel or what have you,
Speaker 3: because it wasn't as big, it wasn't making as much
Speaker 3: noise or whatever. And as they made their way back
Speaker 3: down Hunter's Creek, little by little, as they got out
Speaker 3: of that area, they said they felt lighter, their spirits
Speaker 3: felt less ominous, less oppressive kind of feeling like they're
Speaker 3: in imminent danger. And they got out of there without
Speaker 3: any further anything. The one thing, though, is as soon
Speaker 3: as they were almost back down to the road that
Speaker 3: leads to the lodge there, the Kinick River Lodge, which
Speaker 3: is Kinick River Road, just as they were getting ready
Speaker 3: to get out there, right near the road, they heard
Speaker 3: a long drawn out kind of scream come from back
Speaker 3: up around the corner where their campsite was. And that
Speaker 3: was it, And so I asked him, I was like,
Speaker 3: did you ever go back for your stuff? He said no,
Speaker 3: he didn't have day. He was like, no, we didn't
Speaker 3: go back. They had a high end tent, they had
Speaker 3: high end clothing and all that. He was like, it
Speaker 3: could have all that stuff we left could have been
Speaker 3: worth close to six hundred bucks. I didn't care. He
Speaker 3: was like, I wasn't going back there. This happened just
Speaker 3: the first few days of their trip up here, and
Speaker 3: they were going to be here a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: They ended up going to Anchorage. The cost of the
Speaker 3: lodge was a bit much, and it was like less
Speaker 3: than half to stay in a place in Anchorage and
Speaker 3: didn't have a rental car. They said they basically just
Speaker 3: played tourists around anchors rest of their trip. They felt
Speaker 3: totally uncomfortable. They tried mc cre they tried Bird Point,
Speaker 3: and they said anytime they would get where there wasn't
Speaker 3: much infrastructure around them, they would just get nervous and stuff.
Speaker 3: I want to thank them for sharing. They've been in
Speaker 3: contact with me for gosh, we lost contact for a
Speaker 3: little bit just due to life circumstances. But they initially
Speaker 3: shared this with me a few months after it had happened,
Speaker 3: So it had to have been August of last year
Speaker 3: or so that they initially reached out. We talked a
Speaker 3: little bit. I told him I get back a hold
Speaker 3: of them, and then that didn't pan out, and then
Speaker 3: they were able to get back a hold of me,
Speaker 3: and I was able to get the finer details of
Speaker 3: what happened. Courtney said that when she had eye contact
Speaker 3: with this thing, she said that it felt very strange.
Speaker 3: She said that it was weird to feel drawn to
Speaker 3: a monster that she was seeing, because in those moments
Speaker 3: when she made eye contact, after that whistle and stuff,
Speaker 3: before the breast start shaking, she said she felt like
Speaker 3: she wanted to stand up and go that direction. I asked,
Speaker 3: I said, I have reports of trance like feelings, and
Speaker 3: she said that's exactly what it was. She said she
Speaker 3: was almost in a trance when she was feeling this,
Speaker 3: because inside she was like, well no, but like her
Speaker 3: motions were almost like she had to stop herself, what
Speaker 3: the hell. So that's another intriguing thing. Grant you. It
Speaker 3: could have been curiosity, because in all honesty, if they
Speaker 3: were truly aggressive, we wouldn't have heard from him. Everything
Speaker 3: seemed to be a curiosity thing. They left so things stopped.
Speaker 3: But again, thank you Michael and Courtney for sharing that
Speaker 3: I wanted to share with you today. Comes from Donovan
Speaker 3: Donovan's at the Basket. He didn't want to rebuild. The
Speaker 3: village just occurred in this comes from nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3: Donovan was twelve. Donovan had two younger sisters. His mom,
Speaker 3: because he was older, would have him do a lot
Speaker 3: of chores when his dad was away, and his dad
Speaker 3: would too, It's just how it was, so him being
Speaker 3: the eldest, he would be responsible for doing after dinner dishes,
Speaker 3: tending to his sisters, make sure the homework's done, just
Speaker 3: stuff like that. This happened in the spring of seventy eight,
Speaker 3: and it built up over time. So what initially happened
Speaker 3: was is one of the nights it was around March
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy eight, he was doing the dishes as he
Speaker 3: normally did. He would make a habit of cracking the
Speaker 3: window with the hot steam so it didn't fog up
Speaker 3: the window. Because he said, for a long time, every
Speaker 3: time he would be doing the dishes and it had
Speaker 3: had that mirrored effect, he would always feel like he
Speaker 3: was being watched, and when it got steamy. He felt
Speaker 3: like it got even worse. So he had the intuition
Speaker 3: to know that he was being watched, but didn't understand why.
Speaker 3: This particular evening, it was dusk, and it so happened.
Speaker 3: He was there doing the dishes. He was almost done,
Speaker 3: and he noticed a shadow moving in the trees just
Speaker 3: twenty five feet from the back window. There and stay
Speaker 3: tuned for more sasquatch out to see we'll be right
Speaker 3: back after these messages or the kitchen window. So what
Speaker 3: he ended up doing was like he thought he was
Speaker 3: seeing things. Initially opened the window, he looked a little
Speaker 3: more and didn't see any more movement, no more shadows.
Speaker 3: Closed it back up with just a gap, did the
Speaker 3: dishes and whatnot. He noticed it reoccurring for he said,
Speaker 3: about three or four times. It so happened that it
Speaker 3: was about oh, a week or two later he was
Speaker 3: doing the dishes and he had that window cracked. He
Speaker 3: did him later than he normally would. Some things came
Speaker 3: up right after dinner. He had to go do something,
Speaker 3: help a neighbor or whatever. But when he came back,
Speaker 3: he still had to get the dishes done before he
Speaker 3: went to bed. So his mom and sisters were in
Speaker 3: the living room. Now. He was standing there at the
Speaker 3: sink doing the dishes. He was just finishing up, and
Speaker 3: he had been noticing movement out of his peripherals, but
Speaker 3: he just chalked it up to that mirrored effect because
Speaker 3: the light on above him and it being dark outside.
Speaker 3: He ignored it because for weeks he had thought he'd
Speaker 3: been seeing shadows and this and that. So he he
Speaker 3: was just doing his thing, even though he felt uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: He was just finishing up and he reaches over to
Speaker 3: shut off the hot water, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: that window flies open and something tries to grab him right,
Speaker 3: so he jerks real fast, and he flings himself back
Speaker 3: against the other cabinets across the kitchen and he slams
Speaker 3: into it because he fell down right just jumping back,
Speaker 3: breaks the cabinet doors, makes a huge Ruckus screams out loud.
Speaker 3: The thing took off. All he saw was a hand
Speaker 3: trying to grab his and he said it was real
Speaker 3: hairy up to the wrist handle was really big. He
Speaker 3: also noticed the thumb was offset down a little further
Speaker 3: than ours. Is massive hand. He said it looked like
Speaker 3: a catcher's glove, so he's freaking out. He runs out
Speaker 3: of the kitchen. His mom's up in arms, like, what
Speaker 3: the hell, What the hell? He tells her what's happened.
Speaker 3: She looks in the kitchen, sees the window wide open,
Speaker 3: runs over shuts it. They'll kind of scurry back into
Speaker 3: his parents' bedroom. His dad wasn't there. His dad was
Speaker 3: at work. Now his dad worked out of town. Right,
Speaker 3: So after that happened, everyone was nervous at dusk because
Speaker 3: they didn't know what the hell was going on. So
Speaker 3: they talked to some family, some friends. One of the
Speaker 3: other neighbors said that he had noticed the shadow in
Speaker 3: the woods as well and just chalked it up to
Speaker 3: it being someone from the village just passing through or whatnot.
Speaker 3: Thought nothing of it until this instance. And then they
Speaker 3: started talking and his auntie who lived right across the
Speaker 3: street from them, like literally straight across the street, a
Speaker 3: little gravel road or whatever. A few nights after that
Speaker 3: had happened, his little sisters were supposed to be going
Speaker 3: across to his aunt's house to do something. There was
Speaker 3: something cousin's birthday or something, so it was his responsibility
Speaker 3: to take them. It wasn't overly dark or anything like that.
Speaker 3: It was just he was real nervous about what had happened.
Speaker 3: So he didn't sleep good for a couple of nights.
Speaker 3: After the thing tried to grab his hand, he said
Speaker 3: that just a little bit of the grasp that happened
Speaker 3: just as he was pulling his hand away. He could
Speaker 3: tell it was very strong. I asked him. I was like,
Speaker 3: what were you feeling? And he said he felt like
Speaker 3: it was trying to snatch him. What other impression could
Speaker 3: you get when the thing reaches in tries to snatch it,
Speaker 3: it is what it is, right, So he has to
Speaker 3: walk his sisters across, and he was saying that he
Speaker 3: was intentionally dragging his feet. He had his boots, but
Speaker 3: he was saying he couldn't find his one boot. And
Speaker 3: finally his mom said, fine, I'll do it, grumped at him,
Speaker 3: and then she took him across the way. She comes back.
Speaker 3: She brought her brother in law, Donovan's uncle, So he
Speaker 3: has a talk with Donovan about, hey, you can't be
Speaker 3: scared of stuff and this and that, and Donovan's hey,
Speaker 3: this is what happened. This thing's out there. The uncle
Speaker 3: tried to reassure him like, Hey, sometimes weird things happen
Speaker 3: we're out in the bush. Just don't focus on it,
Speaker 3: otherwise you might unintentionally draw it in. Ganovan wasn't really
Speaker 3: feeling that because he was just doing dishes and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden things tried to grab him. As a kid,
Speaker 3: he wasn't putting it together. His uncle was trying to
Speaker 3: calm him down and reassure him, but at the same note,
Speaker 3: he wasn't really giving any reassuring things other than don't
Speaker 3: dwell on it. There was nothing tangible. Donovan felt that
Speaker 3: he could get from his uncle's advice because his uncle
Speaker 3: wasn't the one that was attempted to be grabbed, so
Speaker 3: it was a struggle for him for a little bit.
Speaker 3: His dad rotates home because his dad happened to have
Speaker 3: a job. They were doing something up working on the
Speaker 3: pipeline as that was getting put in and whatnot. His
Speaker 3: dad was at a pump station or welding somewhere near
Speaker 3: a pump station. But anyway, so he gets home on
Speaker 3: his time off. His mom explains what's going on, and
Speaker 3: his dad comes and talks to him and says, hey,
Speaker 3: what happened. He tells him everything I saw the shadow.
Speaker 3: Neighbors saw the shadow. He tried to grab me. Dad,
Speaker 3: that was really concerned because Donovan had never been out
Speaker 3: of line. He was always a good kid, listened, never
Speaker 3: made up stories, nothing like that. And for his dad
Speaker 3: seeing the broken cabinet doors and how much effort his
Speaker 3: son was making and retreating and smacked into him like
Speaker 3: that and just concaved him in, he realized that it
Speaker 3: was something serious. Right, his dad said he'll be back
Speaker 3: and went and talked to some of the elders and
Speaker 3: some of the other people to figure out has anyone
Speaker 3: else seen this hairy man around? So when his dad
Speaker 3: came home, he immediately went into the gun cabinet in
Speaker 3: the room. His mom always had a pistol in the drawer,
Speaker 3: like at three fifty seven, just in case for bears
Speaker 3: or whatever. So his dad got out his selection of
Speaker 3: rifles right had one in the kitchen went next to
Speaker 3: the front room door, and a rifle available in his
Speaker 3: bedroom with his wife because he always kept it locked
Speaker 3: because all the kids knew gun safety. But it was
Speaker 3: just keeping the honest people honest. So his dad has
Speaker 3: to leave. His dad's next trip though, was going to
Speaker 3: be about a month because he was going commercial salmon fishing,
Speaker 3: and so he had a discussion with Donovan about what
Speaker 3: to do if this thing came back right just to
Speaker 3: go away a couple other things. It was nothing really
Speaker 3: that he could work with because being a kid, he
Speaker 3: really didn't grasp some of the concepts about prayer and whatnot.
Speaker 3: But his dad told him, but you say a prayer,
Speaker 3: this thing should leave. He left it at that, with
Speaker 3: firearms ready readily available. As it worked out, his dad
Speaker 3: went fishing, and about two weeks after he was gone,
Speaker 3: things had calmed down and the schedule was back in order.
Speaker 3: Donovan was doing the dishes that night, tending new sisters.
Speaker 3: He had calmed down quite a bit because there was
Speaker 3: no activity going on. And this one day he was
Speaker 3: on his way back from a friend's house and they
Speaker 3: were passing a neighbor a few houses down who was
Speaker 3: keeping fish guts in the back of his pickup truck
Speaker 3: before he took it to the dump, right, and so
Speaker 3: he left him in there overnight, and they had assumed
Speaker 3: a bear got in there. The buckets weren't thrashed, the
Speaker 3: buckets were just empty, but it stunk, and the people
Speaker 3: who were standing around the truck as they were walking past,
Speaker 3: they were saying, oh, it must have been a bear.
Speaker 3: It stinks smells like a bear or whatever. And he
Speaker 3: heard that in passing and just thought it was real
Speaker 3: weird because he had seen what bears did with their
Speaker 3: buckets when they forgot him, and they were torn up,
Speaker 3: drug around and there was virtually not a big mess.
Speaker 3: They were just empty, and so he thought that was
Speaker 3: weird and it stuck out in his mind. And so
Speaker 3: a couple of nights after that, when he was doing
Speaker 3: his thing is washing the dishes again he noticed out
Speaker 3: the window, and again weeks had passed away, it's staying
Speaker 3: light out. But he noticed because the sun set directly
Speaker 3: in front of that window most of the year, whatever
Speaker 3: that was due west out the window, he was used
Speaker 3: to the sun being down low on the horizon or
Speaker 3: just behind the mountains that were off in the distance.
Speaker 3: He noticed the shadow again moving, and this time the
Speaker 3: way it was moving was like it was he said,
Speaker 3: it looked like it was darting back and forth. The way,
Speaker 3: just the motions it was making freaked him out. It
Speaker 3: wasn't right up on the house or anything, but it
Speaker 3: freaked him out. So he runs to the end of
Speaker 3: the counter and grabs a rifle and opens that window.
Speaker 3: And he said, as soon as he opened that window,
Speaker 3: as he was going to lift the rifle to look
Speaker 3: through the scope to see if he could give a
Speaker 3: better look, he heard a scream. He said it sounded
Speaker 3: like it was right outside the window, but he didn't
Speaker 3: see anything. He said that it was like a bullhorn,
Speaker 3: just screaming in his face almost. He said, it really
Speaker 3: jarred him good, it jarred his mom, really terrorized his
Speaker 3: little sisters. In moments, they were all retreated back into
Speaker 3: mom and dad's bedroom. He had left that window open. Quiz.
Speaker 3: The scream happened and they all scurried out of there.
Speaker 3: As they were sitting in the room, his mom's be quiet,
Speaker 3: She's watched the window. She was listening by the bedroom door,
Speaker 3: and they could all hear banging and clanging in the kitchen.
Speaker 3: So she thought this thing was attempting to or was
Speaker 3: in the house right, So she was like, oh hell no,
Speaker 3: she storms out. Donovan was right behind her. He told
Speaker 3: his little sisters to stay in that room. They come
Speaker 3: around the corner into the kitchen and this thing had
Speaker 3: reached into the window, grabbed one of the cabinets that
Speaker 3: had the frying pans and stuff in it, just off
Speaker 3: to the right of the sink, and had pulled it
Speaker 3: down onto the counter, and the hand was reaching around
Speaker 3: in there, clanging and clanging, And Donvah said, when he
Speaker 3: came around and saw what was happening, this thing's face
Speaker 3: was just out of view of his mom's line of sight.
Speaker 3: His mom was standing in front of him and off
Speaker 3: to the right a little bit next to the fridge.
Speaker 3: And when he came around, he could see this thing
Speaker 3: looking at his mom as it had his hand in
Speaker 3: the window, messing with this cupboard that had torn down. Right,
Speaker 3: his mom preaked, leveled the gun at the window and fired.
Speaker 3: By that point, the arm was already back out the window,
Speaker 3: half drugged, the cabinet into the window frame, broke one
Speaker 3: of the window panes, and basically it was gone, but
Speaker 3: she had fired out that window. Now, Donovan said, when
Speaker 3: he was standing there, he was startled how quickly it
Speaker 3: went from this strange hand reaching into this busted up
Speaker 3: cupboard to how quickly it tried to rip that cabinet out.
Speaker 3: Because of what happened to it when it was trying
Speaker 3: to grab his hand, it really hit home just how
Speaker 3: freaking how close it came to something really bad happening.
Speaker 3: As his mom is calming down, they hear the gun
Speaker 3: shot across the street where his aunt lives an uncle,
Speaker 3: and his uncle was there, like right now. He had
Speaker 3: his gun with them, but he's yelling, what the hell,
Speaker 3: what the hell, And his mom was freaked out and
Speaker 3: was trying to convey what she was dealing with, and
Speaker 3: Donovan said, it was a hairy man. It tried to
Speaker 3: get me, and it tried to grab the cabinet there
Speaker 3: and trying to break and he saw it was evident
Speaker 3: that no one was lying to him. So immediately, you
Speaker 3: guys get back in the room. Gives me a chill
Speaker 3: thinking about it. So they're going back to his parents'
Speaker 3: bedroom because the uncle was standing there and making sure
Speaker 3: they went, and he's looking around. Some of the other
Speaker 3: curtains were opened that time of year. It wasn't really
Speaker 3: dark out, but it was dark in the trees, and
Speaker 3: so he's looking out the windows because all this had
Speaker 3: just happened. So when him and his mom go in
Speaker 3: the room, his sisters are pointing at their parents' window
Speaker 3: right his mom raising the rifle like that all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, the whole place shook. Something smacked the outside,
Speaker 3: and then they heard this weird noise and they felt
Speaker 3: the ground shake a little bit, and the uncle was
Speaker 3: outside in a heartbeat. Once that bam happened right when
Speaker 3: he runs outside from the opposite side of their front door,
Speaker 3: their windbreak area. They heard the uncle go out the door,
Speaker 3: but from the opposite side of the house. As soon
Speaker 3: as the door was shut, they heard a scream that
Speaker 3: reverberated through everything. Right immediately, the uncle was right back
Speaker 3: in the house. He went back there to check on
Speaker 3: them and said, hey, you guys all come over to
Speaker 3: my house with me. They gathered up. His mom was
Speaker 3: still holding the rifle and Donovan still had the rifle,
Speaker 3: and they followed him across just across the gravel driveway
Speaker 3: basically to their house. After of course, making sure everything
Speaker 3: was secure at Donovan's Prayer's house, doors were locked and whatnot,
Speaker 3: they retreat over there, and they ended up staying over there.
Speaker 3: His mom would go back and forth to gathering supplies
Speaker 3: or whatever. When Donovan's dad got home, he was really
Speaker 3: freaked out because the cabinets tore down, the window's partially
Speaker 3: broken he's hearing this craziness from his family, and he's
Speaker 3: being hard on himself because he wasn't there. But what
Speaker 3: can you do. So what ended up happening is Donovan's dad,
Speaker 3: his uncle, and some of their friends they went out
Speaker 3: trying to finding right, trying to see tracks or whatever
Speaker 3: and scare it off, try to do something because it
Speaker 3: was evident that it was interested in children, and that
Speaker 3: really freaked out everybody around. So everything went calm. Everything
Speaker 3: went quiet for a very long time on into the
Speaker 3: fall after fishings, and so it was like about a
Speaker 3: month and a half everything was this calm. Things got
Speaker 3: back to normal again. He said. It was about mid September.
Speaker 3: They had just gotten back in this growing to school
Speaker 3: and whatnot. They had come home, his dad was stressed out.
Speaker 3: It was at the kitchen table as he was asking
Speaker 3: his dad if he was okay. His dad said, yeah,
Speaker 3: just be quiet, I'm thinking about some stuff. Donovan found
Speaker 3: out later later on that evening that his dad was
Speaker 3: out back busting up wood near the tree line where
Speaker 3: he had initially seen the shadows moving, and his dad
Speaker 3: told him that as he was busting the logs, it
Speaker 3: would make that chopping noise when you're splitting wood. He
Speaker 3: hit one of the birch stumps to split it, and
Speaker 3: it split, and it had a very distinctive kind of
Speaker 3: snap kind of sound to it. And he heard an
Speaker 3: identical snap, like an imitation just inside the trees. That
Speaker 3: drew his attention, and he looked up and he said
Speaker 3: this thing was squatted down. It was hard to see
Speaker 3: behind some undergrowth, but it was looking at him over
Speaker 3: the brush, and this was in broad daylight, right and
Speaker 3: it freaked him out. He was like, what the hell.
Speaker 3: He flung the splitting mall in that direction. The thing
Speaker 3: took off. He ran inside, yelled as he was running
Speaker 3: out the door, telling Donovan's mom to go get brother
Speaker 3: in law to follow him, and so the two of
Speaker 3: them took off, went out back through the trees, chased
Speaker 3: this thing. According to what Donovan said, his dad said,
Speaker 3: it was a few hundred yards once it cleared the
Speaker 3: tree line into this marshy kind of area, and they
Speaker 3: saw it out in the open. It was looking back
Speaker 3: at them, and they just opened fired at it, just
Speaker 3: shot at it. They believed they hit it, but the
Speaker 3: thing just stumbled around a little bit and then took
Speaker 3: off running and just kept running and running. That's what
Speaker 3: his dad was so stressed out about. Now move forward
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, nothing has happened. His dad ended
Speaker 3: up having to go down to the States to tend
Speaker 3: to some stuff with one of the family members or something.
Speaker 3: Donovan doesn't exactly remember exactly what it was, but it
Speaker 3: was something to do with the cousin and there was
Speaker 3: some issues with just some family stuff. We'll leave it
Speaker 3: at that. But unfortunately, Donovan's dad was killed in a
Speaker 3: car accident down there while he was out of state.
Speaker 3: It didn't change the hairyman thing, but it took it
Speaker 3: off the front burner, if that makes sense. And so
Speaker 3: everyone morning and doing their stuff. They ended up moving
Speaker 3: away from that village not too long after. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: said he'll never forget it. He didn't express it to
Speaker 3: his parents, but telling me about it, he said he
Speaker 3: lived in perpetual terror during those from like March until
Speaker 3: mid September, and then shortly after his dad passed. But
Speaker 3: he said, up until then, that whole stretch, every movement
Speaker 3: he did, he was worried that this thing was gonna
Speaker 3: try to snatch him, going outside, going to school, walking
Speaker 3: his sisters, to his aunt's house just across the driveway.
Speaker 3: It was real hard for him to overcome it. I'm
Speaker 3: want to thank him for sharing and I'm sorry for
Speaker 3: his loss. That's rough, especially being that young. I feel
Speaker 3: like you got to be the man of the house.
Speaker 3: I want to thank you guys for joining me and
Speaker 3: we will catch you guys soon.
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