WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:00.160 Hi. 2 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.080 I'm doctor Maria Meyer, anthropologists, primatologist, wildlife correspondent and part 3 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:08.880 of the team on Expedition Bigfoot. I've spent my entire 4 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:13.519 life exploring the planet's wildest, most remote places in search 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.280 of the extraordinary. And now I'm inviting you to join me. 6 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.960 Introducing the Explorer Society, a global community of curious minds, 7 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.760 truth seekers, and adventures where we dive into the unknown, 8 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:31.160 from elusive creatures like Bigfoot, to the frontiers of science, 9 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:35.679 nature and unexplained phenomena. 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I don't know how it did it? 21 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:17.239 Okay, damn it. 22 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.760 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 23 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.400 over the fence and he was dead. And once you 24 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:23.480 hit the ground, I didn't see any cars. All I 25 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:25.120 saw was my dog coming over the fence. 26 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:42.760 One. What are you reportting? 27 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:44.879 We got some wond or. 28 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:48.560 Something crawling around out here? 29 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:55.719 Did you see what it was? 30 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:55.799 Was? 31 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:58.040 It was seeing enough. I'm out here looking through the 32 00:01:58.079 --> 00:01:59.879 window now and I don't see anything. I don't want 33 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:08.639 to go outside here. Hello, hit the boddy out here? 34 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:10.840 Went on out there? Let's thought of a bitch of 35 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.280 about sexty forty nine. 36 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:13.960 I don't know easy out there? 37 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:18.400 Yeah, greetings, this friend Alaska, thanks for joining me. What 38 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:20.560 I wanted to shirt with you today comes from Michael 39 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:24.000 and Courtney. They lived in Idaho. They recently moved to Montana, 40 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:26.919 and they loved the outdoors. They loved it a lot. 41 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:29.360 One of their friends up here. I told them about 42 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.240 to Kinnect Glacier and how beautiful it is and there's 43 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.280 plenty of hiking and all that. So they did what 44 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:36.400 they had to do to make a trip up here. 45 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:40.120 Their friends, unfortunately, weren't going to be in the state 46 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:41.960 at that time. Because they were going out of state 47 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:45.400 for a vacation and they were here early last June, 48 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:49.000 and so they ended up staying out at the lodge. 49 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:53.240 So being without a tour guide or without anyone you know, 50 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.080 locally who really knew the good places to go, they 51 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.240 made their own according they did their own things. So 52 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:05.080 right near the lodges Hunter's Creek. Now Hunter's Creek runs 53 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.159 south from the Knick River between the glacier and the 54 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.319 highway and stuff, and it runs south and it cuts 55 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:15.280 and cars back up in between two mountains. Beautiful country, 56 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:18.639 my goodness. But Hunter's Creek can be pretty rapid river, 57 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.039 heavy rainfalls and stuff that could be washed out. It's 58 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.039 not for the meet because Michael and Courtney had plenty 59 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.719 of experience. It was calm day, it hadn't been raining 60 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.159 for about a week, so they jumped on it. They 61 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:33.120 go up Hunter's Creek, they started their journey. It would 62 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:35.280 be to the east side of the creek, going on 63 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:38.919 up through the brush and all that. Now, it was 64 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:43.000 a beautiful day, is how it started out. For the 65 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.479 first he said, three hours or so. Because they were 66 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:49.199 doing bushwhacken, they were dealing with mosquitoes, they were doing 67 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:51.719 weird sounds they were hearing, but they assumed it was okay, 68 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:57.080 a bear or some other Alaskan wildlife was sensing them, 69 00:03:57.159 --> 00:03:59.960 winding them whatever and clearing out. So far, so good. 70 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.520 They had some bare spray, They had a single small 71 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.599 two man tent, and they had their survival stuff as 72 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.280 they call it, as far as freeze, dried meals, little 73 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:13.840 bunsen burner type, sturrough stove whatever. They were ready to 74 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:16.399 potentially spend a night out there, and they were really 75 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.319 feeling great. It was awesome. And once they get back 76 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.720 to the point of the creek, there's a split the vak. 77 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:25.800 It looks like it continues on up, but it's very 78 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.120 short distance. But Hunter's Creek banks off when you're facing 79 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.959 south and banks off to the left and carves back 80 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.360 up through. There's a lot of gravel and stuff in 81 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:37.519 through there. Again, it wasn't for the meek. They were 82 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.000 really earning this, you know what I mean, the brushes, dance, 83 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.199 dealing with the mosquitoes, breaking trail a lot. The game 84 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.839 trails seem to go uphill versus they were trying to 85 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:49.879 skirt around, and there was a few in there, but 86 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.720 it was really really hard going for him. It took time. 87 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:55.759 Once they got to that split where it continued straight, 88 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.439 but it hooks off to the left there, the weather 89 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:02.279 started changing that opportunity at that point. According to what 90 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:04.959 Michael was saying, that Courtney was like, Yeah, let's just 91 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:07.079 do it. We got our rein gear stuff, we got 92 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:09.560 everything we need. We're here. We may not get a 93 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:11.600 chance to come back, we may get caught up doing 94 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.879 other stuff. So they decide, Okay, we're gonna go on up. 95 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.240 We're gonna get back up in between these mountains and 96 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.839 just exist there and feel the energy and do what 97 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:25.279 they wanted to do. Now, once they make that turn, 98 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.759 weather comes in on them pretty fast, and that's how 99 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:32.120 it happens here in Alaska. Started raining. The ceiling just 100 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:34.360 came down on them to where they're pretty much socked in. 101 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:38.920 Imagine just a drizzly rain that's essentially like a fog, 102 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.079 and that's what it is when the clouds touch the ground. 103 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:44.560 They continued on. They would stop every once in a while 104 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.800 because they were hearing noises off in the distance, but 105 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:51.319 being new to Alaska, they were reasoning it away, it's 106 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.560 this sound. It must be this, and I hear this 107 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.920 animal makes this noise, and so they're explaining in a 108 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:00.240 way amongst each other. They freely admit they were doing 109 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.519 that to not freak themselves out because they knew nothing, really, 110 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.319 and they feel foolish, trust me, they feel very foolish 111 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.120 for just tearing out like that with just some bear spray, 112 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:12.519 because their friends offered them a firearm for while they 113 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.560 were here, and they turned it down they saw no need. 114 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:17.639 Michael was like, I'm not a hunter, I don't care 115 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:19.439 for guns per se. I won't need it. We have 116 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.800 bear spray, and we're not going to be doing anything 117 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.879 too crazy out here. At least that's their initial thoughts. 118 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.360 They get back up in there, they keep going. Hats 119 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.639 off to them for being adventurous, I get it. But 120 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.480 they kept going even when there were certain things happening 121 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:37.879 around them that maybe they should have just stopped where 122 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:41.000 they were and let it go or whatever. But they 123 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:44.639 make their way up and they are on the what 124 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:49.240 would be the north side of Hunter's Creek, up against 125 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.319 where the gravel meets the brush, and that's where they 126 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:56.120 decided to hunker down under some alders and willows overhanging 127 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.319 the bank because the way the raindom stuff is raising 128 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.639 the level of creek, not enough to be danger to 129 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:03.920 them because it was still multiple feet away. They weren't 130 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:07.600 in the immediate danger of getting washed out, but things 131 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.279 were changing, So Michael said, they set up their little 132 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.800 two man tent. It was just so drizzling and wet. 133 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.000 Everything was soaked. What they wanted to do was start 134 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.759 a fire or at least use their stove to start 135 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:20.879 drying out some of their clothes. They were having a 136 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.000 hard go of it at first. They didn't want that 137 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:26.800 sternal burner or whatever inside the tent because the co 138 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.720 two and potentially catching the thing on fire. Right, So 139 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.319 they were trying to figure out a nice meetum. So 140 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.560 they took the rain fly and extended it. Instead of 141 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.680 clipping it to the little dumb tint they had, they 142 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:39.120 clipped it up onto some brush to where they had 143 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.720 a little bit of an overhang to make a makeshift 144 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.319 little clothesline deal to start drying out some of their 145 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.879 clothes with this little burner in the meantime, heat up 146 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:52.160 some instant coffee. Now, according to Courtney, she was sitting 147 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:55.079 there and she was just hanging up some socks or 148 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.959 something along those lines and trying to make a mcgui 149 00:07:58.040 --> 00:07:59.920 for a little spot to hang it to where it 150 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.160 would dry and actually catch some of the heat and 151 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:06.360 not just be wasting time. So as she's doing this, 152 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.519 she hears a whistle, and she said the whistle was 153 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:15.360 so loud. It was sharp, crisp, very short. She said, 154 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:17.639 it sounded like someone was in her ear doing it, 155 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:21.040 just real loud, real fast. It happened real quickly, and 156 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:23.279 it was coming from the opposite side of the brush 157 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.439 where they were pushed right up on. So the opening 158 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.879 of the tent, the little dump tin is facing the 159 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.240 bank where the brush is hanging down, and they got 160 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:33.639 the little fly ties off to the branches, you know 161 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.720 what I mean. She was startled because she was turned basically, 162 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:40.639 her left shoulder was towards the opening of the tent 163 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.639 and her right shoulder was facing the tree, so it 164 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:45.600 was right in her right ear. She said, it sounded 165 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.639 like it whistled right in her ear, and it startled 166 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:51.759 her and she stumbled back. Mike let this point was 167 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.519 digging out some stuff in his pack inside the dump 168 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.480 tent of trying to repack some things and find some stuff, 169 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:00.799 some dry clothes and whatnot, and she was startled so 170 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.799 badly she flopped into the tent and it startled him, 171 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:05.600 and he was like, what the hell because he did 172 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.759 not hear the whistle. He had been sitting there listening 173 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:12.480 for all the different sounds. He was the first one 174 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.039 to pick up on it. So Courtney found it very 175 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.879 odd that he didn't hear what she just heard, because 176 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:20.360 it startled her enough to put her into the tent, 177 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.519 just from the jolt of the shock. She's like, how 178 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.080 could you not hear that? Instead of arguing, he was like, 179 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:27.879 he put up his hand, like, hold on, let's be 180 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.559 quite a second. And so they're sitting there and it 181 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:34.039 happened again, and on the second one, Michael heard it 182 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:38.000 same identical whistle. According to what Courtney said, it was 183 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:41.720 very sharp, crisp and short, just one note, very sharp. 184 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:44.600 They both look at each other, whoa And he was 185 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:46.799 like whispering to her, I don't know how I missed 186 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.440 the first one. That's crazy that I didn't hear that 187 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:53.320 first one. That is loud, he said. Acoustically, you could 188 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.080 feel the whistle, even though it was short and sharp, 189 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:59.480 you felt it. There was a concussiveness to it. They 190 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.519 sat there for a minute, looking out the opening of 191 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.840 this dome tent into the brush. It's daytime. What's the 192 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.759 land of the midnight sun? That time of year, Grantua 193 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.360 wasn't solstice yet, so they had many hours before it 194 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:14.720 got dark. But it wasn't gonna get like pitch black dark, right. 195 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.200 So as they're sitting there trying to assess what's happening, 196 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:21.679 they start hearing movement in the brush. Michael already had 197 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.240 the bear spray ready to go. They had a small 198 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.919 canister and a big canister, and from the sounds he 199 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.879 was hearing, he grabbed the big canister and told her 200 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:32.960 to stay inside, even though it's a little domb tint. 201 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.519 He said. He felt foolish telling her to stay there, 202 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:37.960 like somehow she was safer in this dumb tint, even 203 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.399 though there's nothing too. It's this thin piece of nylon 204 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.320 he gets out. He's in the process of getting on 205 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:47.360 his raincoat again, to walk out and examine the brush 206 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.080 and see what's potentially making this noise and if it's 207 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.200 a bear scared off, mace it whatever. As he's doing so, 208 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:57.840 they heard the whistle again now, he said, just as 209 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.639 he was just fixing the arm of his raincoat to 210 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.320 get it on and flip the hood up as so 211 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:06.960 as the hood was up, that's when the third whistle happened, 212 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:10.840 and the brush started shaking real violently. And it wasn't 213 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.279 just one branch, he said. It seemed like the whole 214 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.080 brush in front of him was a lie, just shaking 215 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:19.000 back and forth. He said, a lot of the leaves 216 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:22.120 were still sprouting and coming in. It was very dense 217 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.600 though he had a field of view, but it was 218 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.399 obscured by the sheer density of all the small plants 219 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.759 and stuff because they were just blooming some of them. 220 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.200 Some of them had been bloomed to the leaves and everything. 221 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:36.639 It was a very surreal moment for him because he 222 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:39.440 couldn't see anything, but yet everything seemed to be moving 223 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.759 in front of him, jostling back and forth. Of course, 224 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.399 with all the water falling. He hears Courtney's squeal. Now 225 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.919 he's ten fifteen feet away. She's literally right off his 226 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.720 right hand side. He turns to look at her, and 227 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.679 she's looking back at him, mouthing quietly, get back in here, 228 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:59.720 get back, come back. So he takes a few steps 229 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.480 because he's weirded out. This shouldn't be happening. All this 230 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:06.080 brush is it's just shaken like crazy. He goes back 231 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:08.679 over to him. Squat's down and he's holding that bear's brain. 232 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:11.000 He's shaking real hard. He still got the little safety 233 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.679 tab on there and all that. He wasn't ready plain 234 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:17.279 and simple and those were his words too. Now he 235 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.840 leans down to Courtney and she said, it's over there. 236 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:21.879 It's over there. He was like, is it a bear? 237 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.080 Is it a bear of moose? And she just shook 238 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.159 her head. She kept shaking her head. Now. When I 239 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:30.440 asked Courtney about this particular moment, she said she didn't 240 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:34.120 know what she saw. She said it looked like a man, 241 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.639 but not a man. It looked like a mountain man, 242 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:40.360 but not really, because the skin color was different, the 243 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:45.000 eyes were different. It had a very wide jaw, she said. Essentially, 244 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:47.879 when Michael stood up and was standing over and fixing 245 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.519 his coat, that whistle happened. It caught her attention just 246 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.559 as the brush started coming alive. She said she saw 247 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:57.440 this thing looking at her through a small little opening 248 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.159 in all the brush. She said, about twelve feet away, 249 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.320 looking at her. When she looked at it, fairly typical. 250 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:08.159 It was like a very tan colored skin, like a buckskin. 251 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.600 Heavy wrinkles, black eyes. There was no whites to the eyes. 252 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:16.840 They just looked beady and black, whit set, jaw, pursed lips. 253 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:18.519 It didn't show its teeth or anything like that, and 254 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.200 she couldn't make out ears. She said the head was conical, 255 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:25.080 but not really. It was human shape basically, but much 256 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.840 larger looking at her. She said, once she made eye 257 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:31.600 contact with it, that's when it was like prone on 258 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:34.559 the ground almost because from her vantage point, she's looking 259 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:36.879 up at the bank, and there's a couple of feet 260 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.320 difference between where the gravel of their tent is at 261 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:42.919 and the bank in the trees. Right, she's looking up 262 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.120 basically up at this thing, and she said it almost 263 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.360 looked like it was doing a push up when it whistled. 264 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.399 Then it rolled itself back almost out of her view 265 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.320 and started grabbed a couple of those bands to start 266 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:59.919 shaking everything right, And because their tent flies were tied 267 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.080 to this tree, the whole tent was shaking as well. 268 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:07.360 Now as they're assessing what the hell, and she's explaining 269 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:10.679 what I just explained to you to Michael. Michael's trying 270 00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:14.480 to fumble with the little safety, little pull off thing 271 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:17.720 for his bear spray. He trusts Courtney, so when she 272 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.559 said that's what she saw, he held it. He was like, okay, 273 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:23.759 that's what you saw. He was confused by it, but 274 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:27.759 he wasn't going to doubt her because it was obvious 275 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.200 she saw something. Even if he wasn't sure if she 276 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.960 knew what she saw, he knew that she was freaked out. 277 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.080 So he pops that safety off of there. As he does, 278 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.799 he shake him pretty hard, he said. He stepped back 279 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.360 away from under where they had that rain fly tied 280 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.639 off so he could stand up and try to get 281 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.919 a better vantage point. So what he did was he 282 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.399 wasn't sure how well the bear spray was going to work, 283 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.960 so he shakes the canister. He turns away from the 284 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:59.080 tent facing towards the creek facing south, and gives it 285 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:03.480 a little burst. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. 286 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:11.159 We'll be right back after these messages. So happens that 287 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.879 the wind was blowing towards him a little more than 288 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.080 he had realized when he did that, So the main 289 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:22.440 blast went out, but the smaller particulates that kind of 290 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.240 bloomed off of that initial spray made their way back 291 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:29.720 to him. And also Courtney. When that happened, they both 292 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:32.600 start hacking. So now they got a different dilemma. They're 293 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.720 trying to catch that breath. They just got o seed, 294 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.679 and so they're hacking. They're like, holy crap, that stuff's powerful. 295 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:41.320 And so during this little discussion about how bad it is, 296 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:44.480 Courtney starts looking for these baby wipes that they bring 297 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:47.159 for bathroom use or just a bird baths or whatever 298 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:49.720 when you're out in the field. I use it myself too. 299 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:52.799 They come in handy for real. She's looking for the wipes. 300 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.240 And he squatted back down, talking or and he set 301 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:58.120 the canister down. He said, when he set the canister down, 302 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.759 he heard a grunt in the runt sounded like it 303 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.559 was coming directly from behind the tent, so it startled him. 304 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:06.879 He grabbed the canister again, stood up, got out, made 305 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:09.799 his way out from underneath that rain fly, and stood 306 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:11.759 up to look over the backside of the tent, and 307 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.399 he saw nothing. So he walked around the tent, looking 308 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.279 back towards the bank, trying to make out if there 309 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:20.919 was anything. He's just not seen because of his vantage 310 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.639 pointing his perspective. But there's nothing in his line of sight. 311 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:28.039 He said. He comes back around and squat's down, tells Courtney, 312 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.240 I feel like we are being stalked. Courtney says the 313 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:34.200 same thing. They agree that they do not want to 314 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:37.879 stay there. They don't know what to do because whatever's 315 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:40.399 making the noise out in front of him is still there. 316 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:43.840 It's not a constant of rustling and noise making, but 317 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:47.559 it's happening often enough. They know whatever it is right 318 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:52.000 over there in that general area. Courtney said. She told Michael, 319 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:56.440 let's go, let's grab our packs. The tent was separate 320 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:59.240 all that kind of stuff. They're a little stove, they're wet, 321 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:03.240 clothes were good without it. She alre had already put 322 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.640 the lid on little sternal type burning She had already 323 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:08.839 put the lid on it to shut it off or whatever. 324 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.279 And she tells him, let's go, let's back out of here. 325 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:16.000 We can retrieve the stuff or replace it. Either way. 326 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.319 I don't want to be here. Michael agrees. Now at 327 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.640 this point in time, as they gathering their stuff, Courtney 328 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.400 was one gathering the stuff, because remember Michael was unpacking 329 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:28.680 some stuff out of his pack looking for dry clothes, 330 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.720 so Courtney's stuff what she wanted to stuff in there 331 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.079 and zipped it up for him and got her own stuff. 332 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:38.319 Slides the backpack over to Michael, who's standing watch holding 333 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:40.839 this bear spray, hoping that he doesn't have to use it. 334 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:44.400 Fortunately for him, they were facing the right direction because 335 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:46.519 he said the wind was at our back at this point, 336 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.599 because it was coming from the south blowing down. For 337 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.000 the most part, it was blowing away from them in 338 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.079 the direction they were looking. Once his pack was slid 339 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:57.279 over to him, he squatted down, got it on, kept 340 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:59.599 an eye out. He was hyper paranoid at this point, 341 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:02.759 and he said he stood back up holding the canister, 342 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:06.519 and he noticed brown movement about twenty feet or so, 343 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.759 because from his vantage point looking up a little bit 344 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:12.079 of a rise on the bank and stuff with the brush, 345 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:14.759 he was guessing it was about twenty feet. So he figured, 346 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.720 you know what, I have nothing to lose at this point. 347 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:21.119 You know, this bear spray is supposed to have a 348 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:26.440 fifteen twenty foot dispersion when it shoots out, So he 349 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.319 points it up in that direction and lets it go. 350 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:30.880 He didn't empty the whole can or anything. He just 351 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.880 sent a nice cloud that direction. A courtney at this time, 352 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.559 she said she was just standing up and getting her 353 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.640 back fitted and connected in the front. When he let 354 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:44.799 that bear spray burst go. As soon as he let 355 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.440 it go, and it drifted back in through the little 356 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:52.119 undergrowth and all that stuff, he said, the whole place 357 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.240 lit up with activity. He couldn't make out what was 358 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.599 going on, and all he could see was little blips 359 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:00.839 of hair or whatever it was. He couldn't really make 360 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:02.799 out because it was just it was so fast and 361 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:05.519 so broken and startling to him. But there was a 362 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:07.359 lot of movement going on back there, and then they 363 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:12.039 heard some whoops. They heard four consecutive whoops. They said. 364 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:15.519 It almost sounded like a distress call kind of deal, right, 365 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.799 So that really freaked them out. Michael grabs her arm 366 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:24.359 and starts leading her back down Hunter's Creek. When they 367 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:28.400 start getting a little bit of a distance between the 368 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:31.079 tin and where they were standing and where they happened 369 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:34.200 to be, they stopped and they were listening, because again 370 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:37.400 after the whoops, it pretty much went quite except for 371 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:39.599 the sound of the rustling of the brush. From what 372 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:44.720 Michael said, all of a sudden he heard stomping, bipedal stomping 373 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:49.599 coming down the riverbank just inside the brush. Their direction, 374 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:52.119 and that's when he turned, held her hand and they 375 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:57.200 took off running. Now understand, this isn't all just fine gravel. 376 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:01.960 There's bigger boulders, smaller boulders. They very in size. It's raining, 377 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.759 it's misty as hell. It's pretty much like a fog, 378 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:08.960 a rain fog, and they're trying to retreat as fast 379 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.880 as they can, listening to the sound off to their 380 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.160 right as they're going, because it had caught up to 381 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:17.759 him and was starting to pass them, Michael said, for 382 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:21.319 whatever reason, he stopped. Courtney smacked into him and they 383 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:24.519 both stumbled and Michael fell down, he said, as he 384 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:27.160 was getting back up, because this is all happeneding real fast, 385 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:29.119 he said, he jumped right back up, but then fell 386 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.039 right back down because he had hurt his knee and 387 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:33.119 didn't realize how bad it was until he tried to 388 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:35.920 put pressure on it again. So he went to the 389 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:39.359 ground again, and he said he was looking up at Courtney. 390 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:42.960 Oh crap, this pretty bad. I can't put weight on it. 391 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:46.799 They're having this little discussion because at this point, understand, 392 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.920 the bank is a little taller, and so whatever is 393 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:53.200 making that noise is definitely out of sight. But they 394 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:56.079 can't make out exactly what it's doing or where it's 395 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:59.279 at because the elevation changes are coming down the creek. 396 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.119 Where they were with the tint, there was just maybe 397 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:05.559 a couple feet difference between the actual bank and the gravel, 398 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.759 and when they were coming back down that distance grew. 399 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:12.000 It was about four foot of bank. They were having 400 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.759 a harder time making out what was going on back there. 401 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:17.160