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<v Speaker 3>Dogmanencounters dot com Forward slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks again

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<v Speaker 3>so much for joining us for this live stream episode

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<v Speaker 3>of Dogman Encounters Radio. I really appreciate you listening. Before

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<v Speaker 3>we bring on tonight's guest, I wanted to put something

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<v Speaker 3>out there for you. Cody from episode five point thirty four,

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<v Speaker 3>if you'll remember, he came on and talked about his

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<v Speaker 3>experiences with a dog woman, a female dog man named Sasha. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>not long ago, he contacted me to bring me up

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<v Speaker 3>to speed to let me know that since we spoke

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<v Speaker 3>last he had had several experiences with Sasha and she's

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<v Speaker 3>still coming around. And last night we spoke for about

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<v Speaker 3>two hours until the wee hours of the morning, and

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<v Speaker 3>you won't believe what happened when he had this one

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<v Speaker 3>particular encounter with her. I'm not going to get into

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<v Speaker 3>any details about it, but I will let you know.

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<v Speaker 3>The good news is Tuesday night, at nine pm Eastern time,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to air a special live stream where Cody's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be backed updates you to let you know

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<v Speaker 3>what's been going on, so we hope you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to make it again. That's Tuesday, Tuesday night

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<v Speaker 3>at nine pm Eastern Time, all right. Having said all

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<v Speaker 3>of that, tonight's guest was featured on episode five twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>and on that episode, he talked about a bad dogman

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<v Speaker 3>encounter he had one late evening where fortunately his dog, Dallas,

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<v Speaker 3>a white American bulldog, gave his life, saving his from

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<v Speaker 3>this dog man that was about to kill him. At

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<v Speaker 3>least in my opinion, it sure sounded like that dog

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<v Speaker 3>man was about to kill Cam if Dallas, his dog,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have rushed to his aid. Well, since we spoke last,

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<v Speaker 3>Kim had another encounter with that same dog man, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>something I was hoping would never happen, but unfortunately it did.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you listen to Cam share the details of

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<v Speaker 3>this most recent experience, this most recent encounter, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately it went just about as bad as it could

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<v Speaker 3>have gone. So without any further ado, let's bring Cam

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<v Speaker 3>in here now. Kim, thanks so much for coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Jampan man Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're welcome, but I just hate the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>you're back here for the reason that you are. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I was hoping you'd never have an other experience, but

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<v Speaker 3>it just didn't shape out to be that way, did it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, my luck, it's always been that way. It can't

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<v Speaker 2>go wrong. It will go wrong as it can go.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's yeah, I'm sitting here, I'm so loud. Still

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<v Speaker 2>got another shot one day, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's Murphy's law. Are you further away from your

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<v Speaker 3>phone now, Caim than you were when we did the

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<v Speaker 3>sound check? Because you don't sound as good as he

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<v Speaker 3>did in the soundcheck.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I'm still here. Comeover. Is that any better?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a little bit better. I think we can work

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<v Speaker 3>with that. Okay, Yeah, thanks for doing that. Whatever you did. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>For anyone who missed that episode, Episode five, twenty eight, Cam,

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<v Speaker 3>please tell them about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. My name is Cam. I'm thirty one years old,

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<v Speaker 2>more Central, Mississippi. I've got three kids, married to my

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful wife. Yes, like I said, Like I said, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not too much about me that's out of the ordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, see, my friends, when I can work hard

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<v Speaker 2>all the week long and come home and enjoy my family,

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<v Speaker 2>slash hunt and fishing time on the weekends, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just another dude.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is a shame. You've carved out a good

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<v Speaker 3>life for yourself. It's just so unfortunate that dog Man

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<v Speaker 3>is hanging around. I really wish that wasn't the case. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>let's dive right into it, Kim. I'm sure there are

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<v Speaker 3>some people listening who didn't listen to episode five twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>and with that in mind, for them to understand what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on with this most recent experience, they need to

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<v Speaker 3>know about your backstory. So can you give us, like

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<v Speaker 3>a brief, a fairly brief explanation on what happened when

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<v Speaker 3>you had that first encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I won't linger on it. It's you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to hear it. Like they said, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>in so five twenty eight, but in a nutshell, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been some problems in my grandparents' farm. Me and my

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Tyler went to uh then out in the coyotes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we thought that was you know, I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>would fix the problem. And during all this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I have my dog with me. Uh we run into

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<v Speaker 2>the dog Man runs into us. We were, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>minding our business, and uh it kind of approaches us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and just he's scary. You know. He approaches us,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tyler took a shot at him because he felt threatened,

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<v Speaker 2>so I shot him. Uh, he runs from us. We

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was gone. We both agreed that it was

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<v Speaker 2>time to go. He flanked us. I guess he knew

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<v Speaker 2>where my truck was or saw us come in, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe why in the process of running away he heard

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<v Speaker 2>us coming back and he flanked us. He knocked me

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<v Speaker 2>off the four wheeler, knocked me out, and Towers again,

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was out for this part, but Towers

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<v Speaker 2>says that he was on me and that was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much in his mind it. You know, I was fixing

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<v Speaker 2>to die. And then here comes Dallas, is my dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, he essentially tackles this thing off of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the time I'm coming around, coming to got

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<v Speaker 2>my wits back about me, he was uh he was

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<v Speaker 2>all but dead and uh kind of make mad dash

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<v Speaker 2>for this thing and kills my dog, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had I had luckily had somebody with me and

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<v Speaker 2>uh Tower, they picked up my rifle off the ground

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<v Speaker 2>at some point you know during all this, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh emptied it on him and he almost shot me.

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<v Speaker 2>He really did shot, but he saved my life and

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<v Speaker 2>the thing ran away, and I mean we had to

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<v Speaker 2>go and bury my dog that night. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>tell my grandpa about this, and uh woke him up

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<v Speaker 2>in the miss like one o'clock, one thirty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, I mean it was just really it. I

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<v Speaker 2>went out looking for him, you know, several times since

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<v Speaker 2>things many took you know, he took my dog, who

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<v Speaker 2>was like my you know, my best friend, and he

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<v Speaker 2>took my peace of mind. He took my you know

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<v Speaker 2>that I can't take my kids hunting out on this

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<v Speaker 2>playub is where it was where I grew up, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh yeah, hey, they took a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>from me, man, But I'll get him back one day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. My mind's all but made up. Somehow, someways

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. But here on Friday, the thirteenth of all days,

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<v Speaker 2>was I talked to Vic. Yes it was last week,

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<v Speaker 2>told him about all this, but uh oh, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>ready for the me to talk about the next cart

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<v Speaker 2>And I just kind of jumped into that Endine app.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're fine. You're fine. By the way, Cam, are

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<v Speaker 3>you using your earbuds now? Because in sound check. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't hear any chirping, but there's like a chirping artifact

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<v Speaker 3>when you're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. No, no, I think it's just my speakerphone.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be what the phone's laying on.

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<v Speaker 2>Possibly hold, I'm not sure what's going on now? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that any better?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? That right there is?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, that is better.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we have you tell us about this most recent experience,

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to make sure you understand when we

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<v Speaker 3>had that conversation. Not too long after that, I made

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<v Speaker 3>a post on my Facebook page. I just put it

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<v Speaker 3>out there that I'd been putting a lot of thought

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<v Speaker 3>into this most recent experience. It was really frustrating for

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<v Speaker 3>me because I saw it as a checkmate type of

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<v Speaker 3>a situation. There weren't any good options for dealing with it.

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<v Speaker 3>There might have been some options, as some people thought

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<v Speaker 3>were options, but they really weren't. I mean, sending people

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<v Speaker 3>out there to try and hunt this dog man that's

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<v Speaker 3>only going to aggravate it and just increase the possibility

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<v Speaker 3>that it actually does harm someone their own, your grandfather's

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<v Speaker 3>proper year, maybe even follows you to your own. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's not an option. So I mean, it was just

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<v Speaker 3>really frustrating because there were no good options to try

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<v Speaker 3>and solve that situation that you're in. So I put

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of thought into that. I normally don't spend

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<v Speaker 3>too much time laying in bed thinking about dog me

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<v Speaker 3>and encounters and everything, but yeah, that got some mileage

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<v Speaker 3>on me. It definitely did. I just hate the fact

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to deal with this. It's just so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, you know, but you know frustrating, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's the that's a problem that has literally stared

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<v Speaker 2>me in my face twice now, and yeah, dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>it's really the only option that I have however it

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<v Speaker 2>comes about. But I appreciate all your help, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the words and the you know, asking around and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. And I'm not going to send a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of people out there, hire a team to come out

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<v Speaker 2>and not play. I'm not gonna put anybody else's life

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<v Speaker 2>in danger. Just to just clear there, that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do. It's not my goal.

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<v Speaker 3>Good man. I'm glad you're not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>We spoke before we came on the air, and I

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<v Speaker 3>put Kim. I let Kim know that there is a

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<v Speaker 3>gentleman named Beer Helper who's going to hopefully help him

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<v Speaker 3>resolve this situation. He says he's had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>experience dealing with this kind of a situation before with

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<v Speaker 3>other people, so hopefully that is going to work out.

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<v Speaker 3>I really hope it will, but I guess time will

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<v Speaker 3>tell on that. Well, Kim, with that, didn't you further Ado,

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you're ready, please take your time and tell us

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<v Speaker 3>about this most recent experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, so, I'm not superstitious to the whole Friday at

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen thinking that happened to follow on a Friday that

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<v Speaker 2>it was thirteenth, we normally cut out from work. I

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<v Speaker 2>worked with Tyler. Y'all listen. I y'all know who Tyler is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the reason I'm able to tell you all the story.

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<v Speaker 2>But me and Tyler worked together all day every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not with the with the company I was looking for,

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<v Speaker 2>so I get to see you and hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>and argue with Tyler all day long. But we we

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<v Speaker 2>got off work. I got off work. Tyler was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to go with me to my grandparents place. We were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna spread corn, check cameras usual, and his dad called

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<v Speaker 2>him and said Hey, I need you to go to

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<v Speaker 2>this lady's house. There's something we have to do. And

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<v Speaker 2>he felt bad. He's like, man, you gonna be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be fine, don't worry about it. So I, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>my kids hadn't seen my grandparents in a while, so

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<v Speaker 2>I called my wife, who was off for the doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>She works for is off on Friday so she has

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<v Speaker 2>were home, so I called her. I said, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a while since bro seen grandma and grandpa.

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<v Speaker 2>If y'all would like to meet me out there, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I got my corn ah meet them there,

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<v Speaker 2>walked them into the house at the carport, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, Grandpa said, you know, he said, hey, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>fixing to go and reread all his corn do all this,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, no, you ain't going back, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going with you. I was like, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they want to see you, and b I'd

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<v Speaker 2>went and grabbed the foolilver and brought it back down,

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<v Speaker 2>got the corner out of my truck, went spread, bag,

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<v Speaker 2>checked my camera, saw some good deer, some kyodes and stuff. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 2>went spread the next bag, check, next camera, and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw this great, big bruiser buck that I've been hunting

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<v Speaker 2>for like two years now, and I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>shot last year. So I got excited. All right, let me,

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<v Speaker 2>let me hurry up and get this other corner. So

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<v Speaker 2>I bet money he's over here in this bottom on

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<v Speaker 2>this camera too well. And in the the first two cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>in the first bit of corn, I spread that was

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<v Speaker 2>in the exact same spot where man Tyler had that

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<v Speaker 2>run in with this thing the first time. So I

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<v Speaker 2>go and I get my h my last one hundred pounds,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh make my way down into that bottom where

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<v Speaker 2>is normally where the big deer are anyway, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I spread it, checked cameras, and sure enough he's there again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm so excited. I mean, that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>through the trees. I need to move this. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a climber stand. From what climber stand is, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>of it that you dig into the tree and you

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<v Speaker 2>essentially inch worm your way up a tree figure as

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<v Speaker 2>high up as you want to go, or as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as as big as the accommodations for the tree stand

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<v Speaker 2>will take for the tree. A man, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>move that thing. So I got thinking, I got looking

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<v Speaker 2>and being picky enthoosy like I am. Took me a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes and I figured out where I wanted. I

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<v Speaker 2>put it on a tree. It's a bigger tree than

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<v Speaker 2>it was onside the stead. It took me a second,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, I get this thing set up on the tree,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, man, I haven't used it's meant

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<v Speaker 2>sitting now since last year. I was, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>climb up and make sure I'm not going to fall

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<v Speaker 2>or have a break or something opening morning in my look.

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<v Speaker 2>So I climb up to what I feel like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five feet, maybe above twenty feet. It's it's much harder

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, even something with a nose like a

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<v Speaker 2>white tailed there. It's it's extremely hard for them to

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<v Speaker 2>wind you from that high up, you know, unless everything's

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<v Speaker 2>just incredibly not in your favor and you're let you

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<v Speaker 2>let your wife wash your hunting clothes the night before.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, I climb up. I feel like it was

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<v Speaker 2>probably twenty five feet and uh man, it felt really

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<v Speaker 2>good that day. The wind was blowing and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's still green. There's nothing dead out there right now,

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<v Speaker 2>like all the green stole on the trees. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>the breeze was kicking. Felt good. And you know, I'm chunky.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not in the shape that I used to be

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<v Speaker 2>much heavier than I was, so I was out of

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<v Speaker 2>breath by the time of making that or that that

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<v Speaker 2>high and uh, I sit there for a minute and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know everything, I'm just kind of taking it in. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's beautiful. It feels great, nice change of pace

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<v Speaker 2>from that hot, sticky Mississippi air we have. And uh

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<v Speaker 2>see something out of my proof where I turned on

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<v Speaker 2>a look and it's him. He's there. Just all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I know where there is and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the shock factor is like at eleven, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I had seen this thing, had hurt him, hide and

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<v Speaker 2>no hair. Nowhere have I seen this thing. And like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I went out several times after you know,

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<v Speaker 2>me and Tyler had this running with him, hoping I

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<v Speaker 2>could see him and I could shoot him, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>kill my dog, you know, and uh, but man, here

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<v Speaker 2>he is. And it was all you know, broad daylight,

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<v Speaker 2>broad daylight. Me and him. Man, we were god ten

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<v Speaker 2>feet probably from each other that night. But by the

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<v Speaker 2>time everything was said and done, when Tyler shot him,

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<v Speaker 2>that dude he probably could have reached out if he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to, because his arms are wall unnaturally just weirdly

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<v Speaker 2>weirdly long. And seeing him in broad daylight, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel so stupid now for thinking that he

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<v Speaker 2>looked like a hyena broad daylight. He is exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>way I remember, look to be slightly smaller, like slim

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<v Speaker 2>not smaller in stature, but slimmer for whatever reason. And

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<v Speaker 2>it is I mean, I kind of resigned myself to, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never going to see him, and I'll never have

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<v Speaker 2>a shot to get him. It'll never happen. He got

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<v Speaker 2>my dog, He robbed me of the ability to bring

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<v Speaker 2>my children out here, and then safely have them come

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<v Speaker 2>and do something that I enjoy and I want them

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy, you know. I just had that felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to have to eat that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>find somewhere else to take my kids. But here he is, man,

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean it was, you know, just wow, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the shot, the awe of the but regardless, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen him. It had been a half second. I

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<v Speaker 2>pulled my pistol out and he was probably don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably seventy yards too far, and uh, I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you he's He's very fortunate I didn't have my three zero.

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<v Speaker 2>I shot him right in the head. He did not

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<v Speaker 2>see me. That was That was like the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed after Oh my god, there he is. That's

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<v Speaker 2>him right there. He didn't see me, and the wind

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<v Speaker 2>was at my face. So I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>he has not seen me. He's not smelled me. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was, I'm I wanted to pull my

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<v Speaker 2>phone out and call my wife. I wanted to tell

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<v Speaker 2>her like, hey, I love you. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see you again, I don't you know, or call

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<v Speaker 2>my grandpa and tell him, hey, you know, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>the girls stay in the house. We need to call

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<v Speaker 2>the game, you know, all he seems to go through

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<v Speaker 2>your head and uh, oh man, it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's there's there's a lot at one time. But regardless,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he hasn't seen me. And it was weird

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just strength. Man. The last time we saw

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<v Speaker 2>each other, he came and found us. So it's just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of weird to have him just absmindely walking, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of. I mean, if he if he'd have kept

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<v Speaker 2>going and not got distracted, he would have seen me.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like at some point he definitely would have

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<v Speaker 2>seen me. But uh, man, it's just there he is.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't get over the you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to say. It's hard. There's there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of words for seeing that. At night, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a nightmare. Everything's dark and shadowy and all this

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm talking broad day. I mean, I might as

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<v Speaker 2>well have been watching the neighbor's dog walk down this

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<v Speaker 2>pine tree, this pine tree thicket. But uh, anyway, man,

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<v Speaker 2>he's parallel in this thing, and he's in between what

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a creek bed and this pine tree

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<v Speaker 2>thicket and this pine tree thicket is where all these

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<v Speaker 2>big deer come from. So it makes and you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna tell you, It all kind of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, man, I turn to look and I see

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<v Speaker 2>something else, And for for about a half second, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, there's another one. Well it

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<v Speaker 2>was and it was a dog. It's this dough walking

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<v Speaker 2>down in this creek bed. And if the wind hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>been in my face, he would have winded him and

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<v Speaker 2>she would have never gotten close to him. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>she comes up out of this creek bed and they're

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen to twenty feet maybe twenty five it's feet.

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<v Speaker 2>He sees her, and man, he makes pass for full

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<v Speaker 2>fledged lunges at her, and it was kind of awkward looking,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was like he like his movement was awkward

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<v Speaker 2>looking because dude, he was striding coming down there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I didn't have such hatred for this thing, it

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<v Speaker 2>would almost be it's weird to even say this that

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<v Speaker 2>it would almost be beautiful, you know, like like not

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously he's not beautiful, but this is I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's mathve. Dude, he's like eight feet tall, between seven

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<v Speaker 2>and eight feet tall. It's a monster, like a living, breathing,

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<v Speaker 2>walking monster, and he makes the pass for this dough

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<v Speaker 2>and she dipped on it. She pump faked him and

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<v Speaker 2>was gone, and he did not chase her. Did not

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<v Speaker 2>chase her, which was weird. But I realized that the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time he had been walking down this that he'd

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<v Speaker 2>been parallel in this this pre this ticket, he was limping.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the limp to him And I told Vic this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm and I'm I can't confirm this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure this, but I feel like Tyler blasted him, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>broke his arm or something when he when he took

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<v Speaker 2>one of like, I mean, the dude, the dude up

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<v Speaker 2>until this point he has eight rifle rounds at right,

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<v Speaker 2>unless they all went through and came out the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>that dude has like seven three h eight rounds. And

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<v Speaker 2>when that round that Tyler hit him with out of

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<v Speaker 2>his two forty three, I mean, he's got multiple high

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<v Speaker 2>power rifle rounds in him. So it would make sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me that that's where his limp came from, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you don't really see deer limping because they

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<v Speaker 2>just hurt themselves walking around in the woods. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>think that this thing would be any different being an

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<v Speaker 2>apex predator. But man, right about you know, second or

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<v Speaker 2>two goes by and he's missed this steer, and man,

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<v Speaker 2>he just kind of shook and looked frustrated, like like

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<v Speaker 2>a dog. And I realize really really quick that the

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<v Speaker 2>wind is at my back and he is almost dead

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me. And as soon it must have

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<v Speaker 2>been at my back for a minute before I actually

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<v Speaker 2>realized it, because as soon as I realize, oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>he looks up and he didn't look directly at me,

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<v Speaker 2>but it didn't take him but a half second, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are all over again, just like last December, staring

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<v Speaker 2>each other in the face, and it's you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>will never feel safe in that situation. I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>if they had him at this zoo, I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>staring at one you will not feel safe. Depending on

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<v Speaker 2>who you are, you may or may not feel genuine fear,

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<v Speaker 2>but safe is one thing you will never feel, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, and but what I guess what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting that is last time I saw this thing, it

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<v Speaker 2>was me, my friend, a big dog, me and me

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<v Speaker 2>and me and Tyler are both armed to the teeth really,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what got us out alive. But this time

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<v Speaker 2>he sees me, I have a pistol, just me. There's nobody, nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, And it's like a I mean I pretty much,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like like I had before that was eye

415
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<v Speaker 2>myself to hey, I'm not going to see this thing

416
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to have a chance to get

417
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<v Speaker 2>to get him back for taking my bubba from me.

418
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<v Speaker 2>You know. Right then I had resigned myself to, well,

419
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.920
<v Speaker 2>this is I guess this is it. You know, he's

420
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<v Speaker 2>gonna die. I'm gonna die. We're both gonna die. I mean,

421
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't you know, And uh man, A whole bunch

422
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:21.039
<v Speaker 2>of things go through your head. But that's that was

423
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:24.119
<v Speaker 2>a certain you know. I certainly thought it was a

424
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<v Speaker 2>certainty that one or both of us was going to

425
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.359
<v Speaker 2>be dead before one of us left, if anybody left.

426
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:32.880
<v Speaker 2>But uh, I was I thought for a second. I

427
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, man, he's gonna have to he's gonna have

428
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.039
<v Speaker 2>to make it to the tree and he's gonna have

429
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>to climb up from under me. And I, you know,

430
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have it. I wouldn't like I was messling

431
00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:42.559
<v Speaker 2>with some big, long, crumbersome rife. I have my pistol.

432
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, if he does that, I can

433
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.640
<v Speaker 2>shoot him right in the face. He's going to be

434
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.559
<v Speaker 2>right here, directly underneath me, and I can hit him

435
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:54.079
<v Speaker 2>head neck, chat, you know, whatever, anything I can to

436
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:58.440
<v Speaker 2>try to And you know, it's all these things, all

437
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:02.240
<v Speaker 2>these thoughts, all this. You know, it happened so quick,

438
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and you know, somehow you process it. I guess that's

439
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Speaker 2>your crimeal response to an adrenaline rush. I don't know.

440
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:12.880
<v Speaker 2>But man, right there, out loud to myself, I was like, girls,

441
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I love y'all. I love y'all so much, and I

442
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>just thought, I was like, man, I'm never going to

443
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>see him again. I won't be able to say by nothing.

444
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:21.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I kind of got mad again, like

445
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know when when he had when he

446
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 2>had taken my dog Man, and I screamed at it

447
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.240
<v Speaker 2>or bored at it whatever. You know, if somebody had

448
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.279
<v Speaker 2>been standing there looking at me, I'd probably look like

449
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 2>a like an idiot, like Tarzan or something screaming from

450
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.319
<v Speaker 2>a tree. But you know, that's that's what came out.

451
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't plan it, didn't think about it just kind

452
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 2>of happened, and it got the message across to him

453
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I'm here, I'm not afraid of you,

454
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 2>and if you want to kill me, you've got to brother,

455
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:53.319
<v Speaker 2>because I'm not going anywhere. And uh man, he looked

456
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:54.960
<v Speaker 2>at me and he showed me his teeth and he

457
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:56.759
<v Speaker 2>returned the favorite And when I tell you, it was

458
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the loudest thing I've ever heard in my life. I

459
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:01.880
<v Speaker 2>used to under the Pyramid when I was little. I

460
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you'll know where the Pyramid had methods

461
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>as a massive bass pro shop now, but I used

462
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.599
<v Speaker 2>to go and watch monster trucks at the Pyramid, and

463
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I was like the loudest thing I've ever heard. It

464
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:16.759
<v Speaker 2>was unnecessarily loud to have those things inside, but at

465
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:18.640
<v Speaker 2>that point in my life, up until that point, that

466
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:20.319
<v Speaker 2>was probably the loudest thing I've ever heard. But man,

467
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:24.799
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about like like kirks ear drump so loud.

468
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Man's so close to me, and.

469
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh man, you know, I just I don't I don't care.

470
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not afraid. I'm not gonna back down. And maybe

471
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe he didn't get enough of a fear response for

472
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 2>me or from me, and he was going to try

473
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.039
<v Speaker 2>to elicit you know, some more fear for me or

474
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 2>something that people people say these things can smell your

475
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 2>fear and they feed on your I don't know how

476
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>true that is or isn't, but uh man, it just

477
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:00.559
<v Speaker 2>threw me for the I mean, just through me for

478
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 2>a loop. He starts to walk towards me. He didn't

479
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>charge me, he didn't rush me, he didn't act like

480
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 2>he needed to hurry up and get to me. He

481
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 2>took steps, deliberate steps, like he was going to walk

482
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>to the tree where I was, and I was going

483
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>to allow him to do so. Dude, I shot eight

484
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 2>times and I don't think I hit him but twice,

485
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>but it stopped him dead in his track. And I anyway,

486
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll get to what I'm gonna say. So he stops,

487
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 2>reaches with his and I'm gonna stay it again. I'll

488
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 2>never get tired of saying it, because it's always going

489
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 2>to be some kind of weird to say it with

490
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>his hand not paul hand reaches over and grabs his

491
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 2>ribcage and kind of, you know, he winces. They touched

492
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>another spot with his other hand, but he had deliberately

493
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:47.920
<v Speaker 2>reached all the way across his body and grabbed where

494
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm positive I hit him, and he looks

495
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 2>up at me, and it's hard to explain how it

496
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 2>how it works, because it's not. So he looks at me,

497
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 2>right and and when I when I if anybody listened,

498
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 2>if anybody remembers when when that night when he was

499
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 2>holding Dallas, after Dallas had got him, had got him

500
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 2>off of him, and he was holding Dallas in his hands,

501
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, damn near dead. Sorry farm my language, but

502
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.400
<v Speaker 2>he looks at me at that, you know, while we're

503
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>standing there. He looks at me and it was like

504
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>he was saying. There were no words. I didn't hear

505
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 2>a voice in my head. It was like he projected

506
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 2>this challenge to me, come here boy, like calling me boy,

507
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>like you know, like like tiny human. Whatever it was,

508
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 2>however he meant it, but it was this I got.

509
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I got that message the same way this time, except

510
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>it was you know, I'll get you like next time,

511
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.880
<v Speaker 2>or you know what, however he meant it. But maybe

512
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's what people mean when they say they communicate

513
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>telepathical or they can whatever people say, because I got

514
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 2>that loud and clear, and there were obviously no words.

515
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:11.920
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, I didn't hear a voice in

516
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 2>my head. But he did his best to let me know,

517
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.799
<v Speaker 2>to portray to me right there that I'll get you.

518
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, at some point it's going down. However, he's

519
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:24.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna phrase it. And he turns and he runs again,

520
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and for the second time, I'm watching this thing that

521
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>killed my dog turn and run and get away. Scott. Yeah,

522
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>he caught. He caught a bullet or two, but he's obviously,

523
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>you know fine. But he dropped down, backed off Ford

524
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>because when he saw me, he stood up. Sorry, didn't

525
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 2>mean to leave that out was figure. It was kind

526
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>of unspoken, but he saw me, he stood up, take steps,

527
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 2>I shoot, Everything goes by, and he turns around and

528
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>drops down and runs. Well, I've been here before, been there,

529
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 2>done that, got the postcard, all that. I've seen him

530
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 2>run away and faint and escape before, so I don't move.

531
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get down or anything. I screamed for him

532
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 2>for a second and he didn't come back. So eventually

533
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I pulled my I called my grandpa and I tell him,

534
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, look, I just ran it. Because he

535
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 2>calls him the wolf said hey, I just ran into

536
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the wolf. You know, I'm okay. I shot him. He's

537
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>gone out of side. I can't see him, I can't

538
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:21.079
<v Speaker 2>hear him, but I know that this is what happened

539
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 2>last anyway, told Grandpa Sa to get the girls. Put him.

540
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>He's got a stormproof room in his house. To get

541
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the girls. Get everybody in the tornado room right now.

542
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, now, I didn't have any real reason to

543
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 2>do that. It was just, you know, I'm sorry. The

544
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 2>helicopter dad and me, one of my girls in a

545
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>steel room made me feel a lot better. And Grandpa's like, well,

546
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting the truck. I'm coming to you. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

547
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>You're the only thing up there between them and this

548
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 2>thing right now. And he never probably had any aim

549
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 2>of going up there to the how he may not

550
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>even know that house is there, I don't know. But

551
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I told girl. I was like, no, don't don't do

552
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 2>this anyway. I h man. I start to, you know,

553
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>after a couple minutes, to make my way down, and

554
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Grandpa calls me and he tells me, he said, hey,

555
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 2>they're up. What do you want me to do if

556
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming to stay there? And man, I make it

557
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 2>to probably ten feet I stopped. I look, and I

558
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>hollered again, and I can't say what I said, but

559
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I said, you so and so I'm still here. Come here,

560
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>come back, come here, And he wouldn't come here, so

561
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>I I guess he's gone. I jumped from probably five

562
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>or six feet. I didn't even go to the last

563
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>few feet to the ground. I jumped and h man,

564
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I run to the four wheeler and I'm gone, I'm

565
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>out of there. But like I said, I know, I

566
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.559
<v Speaker 2>know for a fact that he will absolutely he did before,

567
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>like I said, been there and done that. He may

568
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 2>have been waiting to flank me, or may have run

569
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 2>somewhere out of sight to where he doesn't get an

570
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>angle on me and go somewhere else. I mean, I

571
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know what he was going to do. So I

572
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 2>struck out over the hill, back down into the pasture

573
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 2>where Tyler and I originally had to run in with him.

574
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm screaming for him the whole time, like here

575
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I am, come get me, you know, all this stuff,

576
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 2>And never saw him again, didn't see him, didn't hear him.

577
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe maybe five minutes goes by, maybe,

578
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, from the time I hit the ground out

579
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>of the stand till I was on the four wheeler moving,

580
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, all right, I gotta go, I

581
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 2>gotta go. He's gone, So man, I book it back

582
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 2>to the house and man, I get there and my

583
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>wife is hysterical. And when I say hysterical, I mean

584
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you should never let your kids know that something is wrong,

585
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>right as if there's any parents listening right now, you

586
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>got to keep it chilled for your kids. They never

587
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>need to know anything is wrong. Man, my kids are

588
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:47.559
<v Speaker 2>scared to death right. Well, my kids are twelve, four

589
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and almost two. My twelve year old is a gangster

590
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 2>among gangsters. I'm so proud of that kid. I can't

591
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 2>even tell you. I walked in. My grandmama has her

592
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>break barrel single shot four ten looking out in the windows.

593
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 2>My grandpa has a big, big desert eagle pistol that

594
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.359
<v Speaker 2>he is walking around brandishing. And you know, of course

595
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Speaker 2>my kids don't know what's wrong, but something's wrong. I mean,

596
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, the kids, they're not stupid, they're just young. Obviously,

597
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Speaker 2>something wrong. Mommy screaming and crying for reason. So I

598
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.799
<v Speaker 2>take her and I say, hey, go in that room.

599
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna come talk. Well, I tell my oldest. I

600
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.440
<v Speaker 2>tell Kay, I said, babe, watch your sister. Mama's okay.

601
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>He was just scared. Daddy got hurt. I'm fine, Everything's okay.

602
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 2>And she looked at me and she said I got this.

603
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh damn, right you dou who didn't? Right?

604
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>You do? But uh, I get Kadie calm down, and

605
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 2>uh man, it was a anyway we decide say wait,

606
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>see sides right. Then we're leaving. We're going. We're not

607
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 2>where this, that and the other. I look, I just

608
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 2>needs you just sitting here with Grandmama for a minute.

609
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 2>And uh, you know, I gotta I gotta talk to Grandpa.

610
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>So I told him, man, I you know, I love you.

611
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 2>I can't stand the thought of something happened to you.

612
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Y'all gonna have to find somewhere to go. You know,

613
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 2>you can't stay here. That's not the same. And boy,

614
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 2>when I tell you, that conversation went just about how

615
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I should have known it was gonna go. Uh my

616
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 2>grandpa looks like John Wayne. He acts like John Wayne

617
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>as well, and it's kinda he wasn't happy with what

618
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I said, and he, you know response, he was like,

619
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I can't say everything instead, But he said, you know,

620
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 2>he said, I mean, he said, what, well, hell, so

621
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 2>where do you want me to go? What what I

622
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>look like? Abandoned in this place that I've worked my

623
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 2>my butt off all these years to pay for and

624
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>to own so that one day it can be in

625
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 2>your family and I can give it to you. He's

626
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask you something. Are you gonna everything? He said,

627
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna let that thing keep you from coming

628
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>out here and doing what you love to do? And

629
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well known? And he was like, okay, well,

630
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>how can I think you can just by asking me

631
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 2>if anyway left that alone? And uh, you know, he's

632
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.559
<v Speaker 2>the wrong man, and he ain't scared nothing. Man, he

633
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna be made to leave. He's not gonna you know,

634
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>he'll stay there and fight that thing if he has to. Honestly,

635
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 2>he ain't even seen him. He hadn't seen him that

636
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>running with't had done anything. But that's how that went.

637
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 2>And uh yeah, so it's I mean, it wasn't you know,

638
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I say it ended it, It didn't

639
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>end you know, didn't end it all. I guess it

640
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:57.079
<v Speaker 2>was over for the time being. But that's that's essentially

641
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 2>what happened with it this time a stint of it.

642
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Nobody was hurt as except except him, And uh, I'm

643
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 2>so alive. Obviously I'm here and I will tell you

644
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 2>guys about it. But uh, I've done a lot of uh,

645
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 2>just a lot of thinking, a lot of planning, scheming,

646
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.880
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it, about what I'm going

647
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 2>to do to handle this situation. And I've got a

648
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 2>couple of bilops. But that's what I'm dealing with here.

649
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>And now h Fix lent me his listening and listening

650
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 2>here and his his advice best advice he can offer,

651
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, and once again gave me a platform to

652
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.280
<v Speaker 2>come and talk to some people who believe me and

653
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't make fun of me. You know, is that.

654
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, as you know, I'm all too glad to do that.

655
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 3>And like I told you, I don't have nightmares about

656
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 3>dog men. I normally will help eyewitnesses. Some days it

657
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 3>gets just absolutely ridiculous how many eyewitnesses need help. But

658
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, it's like a switch.

659
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.079
<v Speaker 3>When I'm done helping them, then I just move on.

660
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I do whatever to try and unwind. If there's time

661
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.039
<v Speaker 3>to maybe hit the woods and go for a nice walk,

662
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 3>then I will, but I don't carry that with me.

663
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 3>But man, after hearing about this most recent experience, I did.

664
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I did carry that with me quite a bit for

665
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>some time. And like I said, it was just so frustrating.

666
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 3>It seemed like a no win situation that there weren't

667
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 3>any good options for And that was me. This didn't

668
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 3>happen to me. I can only imagine on your end

669
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 3>how difficult this has been. Those are your kids, that's

670
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>your wife, that's your grandfather. I can just I can

671
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 3>only imagine how this has hitching, how difficult this has been.

672
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I've imagine, Man, it's a it's uh that's frustrating, you know,

673
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 2>the uncertainty and uh yeah, just I guess the helplessness,

674
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, I I myself. I'm not. I'm not

675
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not helpless, but I am in certain ways,

676
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Like my Grandpa's not gonna leave. There's no you know

677
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, there's absolutely no yeah, there's no convincing him,

678
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>there's no change in his mind, there's no yeah. And

679
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 2>so also I guess that's not it. So as of

680
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 2>speaking of my grandfather, as of today Friday, as of Wednesday, morning,

681
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 2>his dogs are both dead. Both of them are dead

682
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 2>in his yard. Buddy, Bloody is all get out when

683
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you go past his house and he you know those

684
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, those are only two dogs he got. He

685
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 2>got sorry, he got three dogs. One of the old

686
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 2>she don't even go outside, you know, she's not long

687
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>for the world. She's on the way out. But Dack

688
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and Ruby have been running that property, you know, since

689
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>they got there because or five years old or so,

690
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>and uh, Jack and Ruby turned up dead Wednesday morning.

691
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 2>You go past their house, their driveway runs all the

692
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 2>way to the back of the property, past their house,

693
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.400
<v Speaker 2>and at their at the house, it stops, it goes

694
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 2>into their crup work, but it turns into their yard

695
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:33.519
<v Speaker 2>and there's like a trail that it would have been

696
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.039
<v Speaker 2>the driveway it was way back, you know when we

697
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>own the property, I guess. But right there at the

698
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>trailhead where it goes from yard to narrowing down to

699
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.320
<v Speaker 2>just a trail that goes back to where Dallas and

700
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.920
<v Speaker 2>my other dog are buried. They were both laid out

701
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 2>right there, just sewed all the pieces. Man. So now

702
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>not only is it not only is it going to

703
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.800
<v Speaker 2>be impossible for me to change. My Grandpa's he's going

704
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 2>to be on the war path. He's he's going to

705
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:06.920
<v Speaker 2>go out of his and it's that that's the helplessness

706
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about. He's going to go out of

707
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.679
<v Speaker 2>his way to do everything that he can to kill

708
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:19.000
<v Speaker 2>her name, you know, whatever he can, this thing, this monster,

709
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 2>this dog. Man. I mean, it's you know, there's no

710
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing that I can do for as far as

711
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>telling him, like Grandpa, just leave it alone, because I mean,

712
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 2>and what what kind of hypocrite would I be? I'm

713
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 2>gone looking at it. I'm gone looking for him since

714
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 2>he took my dog to me. And you know, my

715
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 2>my grandpa is a hard, hard, hardhearted man. But dude,

716
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.440
<v Speaker 2>his dogs and his grandchildren and you know, now his

717
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>great grandchildren are the only things he's ever been sold

718
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>for in his life. And man, those were house dogs.

719
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 2>They get wet out during the day to run some

720
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 2>but man, those are there, those are lap dogs. You

721
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>know that was there was a Jack was a or

722
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 2>it's year old blue healer and uh and Ruby, I

723
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>don't even know what God know she was, but she was,

724
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she was the light of their lives. They

725
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 2>love those dogs. And now you know they're gone, and

726
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, if you know, I I don't know, man,

727
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>that it makes sense to me that he would have

728
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>done it. But there's a lot of coyotes too. I mean,

729
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:26.199
<v Speaker 2>I just they've been running around in the woods with

730
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>coyotes for years now and nothing's happened to him, and

731
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, it just kind of I don't know, but

732
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:35.079
<v Speaker 2>he seems to think that it was it was the

733
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 2>wolf man. I don't I don't. Oh, I don't know

734
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 2>what to tell him. I don't know. I just I

735
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 2>told him, like, let me just just hang back and

736
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 2>let me handle. I'm gonna figure out a way to Hannibal.

737
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm gonna devise a way to get him.

738
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna get away with everything that he's done.

739
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's you know, there's there's gonna be some

740
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of some kind of consequences for him, and he's

741
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>he's not happening. No, that's not enough for him. He

742
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 2>says about like I was when it when it killed

743
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>my dog. You know, he's a he's a he's a salty,

744
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 2>gritty old man.

745
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't, Wow, I'm so sorry to hear

746
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 3>that happened that's horrible. I hope he doesn't wind up

747
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 3>getting himself killed now he's so upset about that dog

748
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 3>me and killing his dogs. And I bet good money

749
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 3>it was that Dogmian that did that. I wouldn't be

750
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:37.360
<v Speaker 3>surprised in the least if it was that dogman in fact, you,

751
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:41.320
<v Speaker 3>like I said, I bet good money on it. Before

752
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:44.159
<v Speaker 3>we move on, I want to put this out there.

753
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Both David Daniels and Bang Bang, thank you so much

754
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 3>for your donations. I really appreciate it. I do. Before

755
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 3>I started doing some questions, some other questions at Sha

756
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 3>Kim in our most recent conversation, you told me, and

757
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 3>I didn't until then. You told me that you live

758
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 3>pretty close to an area that it's very well known

759
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.760
<v Speaker 3>for dog mean activity. Please talk us through that.

760
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I do so. I'm not I'm not sure of the

761
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 2>like the origin of the story or whatever. But if

762
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you've ever heard of this, the dog man stage of

763
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 2>locket rants, those are real people. You can look them up.

764
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't know about the story, it's not. I just don't know.

765
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 3>It didn't happen.

766
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 2>It didn't no story.

767
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.039
<v Speaker 3>That's all it is is a story. Not to interrupt you,

768
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:46.679
<v Speaker 3>but when you talk with people with eyewitnesses Bonifie Dogman,

769
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:51.320
<v Speaker 3>eyewitnesses from that area of Taylor, Mississippi. And they never

770
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:55.239
<v Speaker 3>heard about that happening. They're family members, never heard a

771
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 3>whisper about that ever happening. They're friends who like them,

772
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 3>and their family grew up in that area, and their

773
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 3>uncles and grandfather and in great grandfather, everyone grew up

774
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 3>in that area. No one ever said a word about

775
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:12.320
<v Speaker 3>that supposed siege ever happening. That's all it is. It's

776
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 3>just a story. But anyway, not to interrupt, I'm sorry,

777
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.599
<v Speaker 3>I apologize, Please continue.

778
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.639
<v Speaker 2>No, you're good. I just I legitimately didn't know the

779
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.599
<v Speaker 2>legitimacy of that. But it's it's supposedly you know, it's

780
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 2>it's Taylor, Taylor, Mississippi. I don't live far from it

781
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.719
<v Speaker 2>at all. And me and Tyler just built a house there,

782
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>me and him and his dad and no dude or

783
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 2>two and uh this I don't know if this was

784
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 2>something I told you the other day or not. But

785
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 2>there's a there's a I can't remember her name, but

786
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>me and my wife went out not long ago with

787
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 2>a couple of her friends who she hadn't seen in

788
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a while. There was a woman there at the far

789
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:52.920
<v Speaker 2>we were at and I ended up having a conversation

790
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 2>with and she is from Taylor, and she told me

791
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:58.880
<v Speaker 2>she didn't know what it was, but VIC, I guarantee

792
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>you'll know what it was when I start talking about it.

793
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 2>This woman said that she was outside on her back

794
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>porch smoking a cigarette or doing something and big, big,

795
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>huge tree starts like shaking, shaking right out behind her house,

796
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.199
<v Speaker 2>like scared her to death, she said. She said, I

797
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>went inside because I thought I heard like a month

798
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.239
<v Speaker 2>from or something. And she looked at me like like, please,

799
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 2>don't think I'm crazy, And I'm like, I promise I'm

800
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>not gonna call you crazy. If I were to tell

801
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you my accounts of what I've seen or been through

802
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you probably called me crazy. But she continues

803
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>on and tells me this, yeah, this went on forever,

804
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Like I went inside and drank coffee and myself away

805
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 2>and all this that and the other. But again, this

806
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.679
<v Speaker 2>is in Taylor's in Taylor. Well, there was some some

807
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.800
<v Speaker 2>other radio show I listened to where this guy claims

808
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>to have been working at a like a ower substation

809
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 2>off of Old Taylor Road at sundown and seeing like

810
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 2>a pack of these things or so again, I don't know.

811
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that real name. I don't know if

812
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 2>this really happened. I don't know. But Taylor is, always

813
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 2>has been, and probably always will be a spot where

814
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean just countless you know, accounts and sightings and

815
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff has happened. But no, I don't. I

816
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 2>don't live very far from it. All. I've got my

817
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:30.079
<v Speaker 2>good buddy Allen lives like five minutes from there, you know,

818
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 2>he's a don't and he had a big foot encounter

819
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 2>in Abbeyville. Him and him and another dude that I

820
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.519
<v Speaker 2>went to school with. They've they've told me, you know,

821
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 2>they told me about this. I mean, it's weird things everywhere, man,

822
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>and it just why did it have to be on

823
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 2>my place? You know? Why do I have to be?

824
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't mean to sound like why I

825
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 2>meet people, because I'm gonna find a way to deal

826
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 2>with it, don't worry. But it's just, yeah, Taylor's real close,

827
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and apparently they're they're way far out from Taylor too,

828
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.960
<v Speaker 2>because I'm in fifteen minutes from it. Probably we did,

829
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 2>we just built the house there for these these pretty

830
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>wealthy people and uh took everything in me to ask them, Like, man,

831
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I ain't say anything weird out behind your house or anything,

832
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 2>have you? Yeah, yeah, no, Yeah, it's Taylor's hots always

833
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:25.119
<v Speaker 2>has been, probably always will be. But uh that and

834
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 2>it always brings national forest too. See.

835
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:36.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're surrounded by hotspots. Unfortunately, says sheman has to

836
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:40.039
<v Speaker 3>be that way, but yeah, that's how it is. Let's

837
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.320
<v Speaker 3>get to some questions now from the listeners in the chat.

838
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:47.119
<v Speaker 3>The first one up is from Peppercat, and she wants

839
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 3>to know, Hi, Vic and Kim, can you share details

840
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 3>about how the teeth it showed you look like? Sorry

841
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:54.840
<v Speaker 3>about your experiences with dog men?

842
00:47:56.239 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you appreciate it. No, they're they're big, They're

843
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 2>not some people. And again I'm not speaking for anybody

844
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.599
<v Speaker 2>else because I can only speak for myself my first

845
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:13.519
<v Speaker 2>hand experience. But man, if you took let me use

846
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 2>my dog. For example, Dallas was they big, big dog

847
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 2>man and his teeth were hard to say, an inch measurements.

848
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I never once measured him, but they were big enough.

849
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 2>He'd a bitch your hand, he'd have shattered your hand. Dude,

850
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.400
<v Speaker 2>These dogs, I mean, these dogs, this dude's teeth are

851
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>like two and a half, possibly three times the size

852
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 2>of I mean, head's big. It's not like cartoonishly big

853
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>like people make it out to be like some people

854
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 2>that again, maybe somebody has seen one that looks like that.

855
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but he's pretty proportionate. And his teeth

856
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 2>follows suit. I mean they were and they weren't nasty,

857
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>dingy yellow teeth. I mean, he's got a pile full

858
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of pearly whites. It's so Imagine his breath that's not

859
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.519
<v Speaker 2>too good. His teeth don't look like years ago through

860
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:02.519
<v Speaker 2>the dentist. Imagine can get dubbed on with him? They

861
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 2>ever felt like it?

862
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:08.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they normally do get the job done with them. Unfortunately.

863
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 3>The next one is from Tim Webb, and Tim wants

864
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.159
<v Speaker 3>to know, what was the first feature you noticed on

865
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the dog men.

866
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Kim as posture? Posture? Man like that? You know, I don't.

867
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you heard the you know, the

868
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:29.159
<v Speaker 2>ordeal that went down this last December that gave me

869
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 2>the platform to do a bit with But man, it

870
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>was I swear to you swear, and when I and

871
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 2>this this this past couple weeks ago, Man, it was

872
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the same, like I really I felt like, like, I know,

873
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I know, I don't sound so stupid even to myself

874
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 2>for thinking he looked like a hyena, like on all

875
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 2>fours anyway, he looks like a hyaena. Is this posture

876
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.199
<v Speaker 2>resembles a hyaena? His back legs are way more tucked

877
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:01.559
<v Speaker 2>up under him in his front. I got to get

878
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 2>out of the habit of trying to say front legs.

879
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:06.960
<v Speaker 2>He has arms, does not have front legs, but they're

880
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:11.360
<v Speaker 2>they're long. They're really really long. I mean, like like

881
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>in comparison, his front legs are like you're seeing somebody

882
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 2>with one of those really ugly squatted trucks where the

883
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:19.119
<v Speaker 2>back end the bumpers almost dragging the ground. In the

884
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.679
<v Speaker 2>front end you can't see over the hood his front arms,

885
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, his front his arms are that much longer

886
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.519
<v Speaker 2>than his legs are in the rear, you know, at

887
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 2>least from that posture. It's it's really weird looking, man,

888
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:35.880
<v Speaker 2>it's strained. But you know, but in broad daylight, man,

889
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there was really anything about him that

890
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get just crazy good looking. I mean it was, man,

891
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.440
<v Speaker 2>it was dark the first time, and what really stuck

892
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 2>out to me the first time where his ears they

893
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 2>were really forward facing. They don't have these these tuffs

894
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 2>of hair on the end like lots of people say.

895
00:50:54.440 --> 00:51:03.159
<v Speaker 2>But his eyes, man, they have their own like not bioluminescs.

896
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 2>They're they're luminous themselves, like they have a glow of themselves.

897
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 2>There was no there was no moonlight to shine his

898
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 2>like for his eyes to shine, and we weren't shining

899
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.519
<v Speaker 2>a flashlight at him. His eyes have a glow in

900
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 2>and of or all of them, I guess, have a

901
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 2>glow in and of themselves. And it's yellow, like yellow

902
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.280
<v Speaker 2>as yellow could be, like some people call it amber.

903
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 2>That's that's pretty close, I guess. But I mean, and

904
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's creepy looking. But dude, in broad daylight,

905
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>you figured he's not all madded up. They looked like

906
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 2>he just went to the gloomer. But you think about

907
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 2>like suit of deer. They live outside all day, all

908
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 2>day long, all year round. They're never inside. But they

909
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:48.800
<v Speaker 2>looked I didn't normal, like they look like a like

910
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 2>a dog. Would I mean that he wasn't all madded

911
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 2>and mangy looking or excuse me, I wasn't all madden

912
00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 2>or mangy looking. Or anything like that. But he I mean,

913
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, it's just really really hard to

914
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:09.159
<v Speaker 2>just outright describe looking at one of these things. It's

915
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 2>not normal. You're not supposed to have to think about

916
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.280
<v Speaker 2>something like that. But but no, man, overall, you know,

917
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:18.599
<v Speaker 2>in the i'd say, in the first few seconds of

918
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 2>laying eyes on him in broad freaking daylight, his posture

919
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:24.599
<v Speaker 2>with what got me first, and I kind of and

920
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I realized exactly that's exactly why I thought he was

921
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 2>what he was when I first saw him and dark.

922
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Then Yeah, like I've told you before, life is so

923
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 3>complicated and difficult. It really is a shame yet to

924
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 3>deal with these experiences. It's just not fear, It's not

925
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 3>This next question is from Monique, and Monique wants to know, Kim,

926
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 3>do you have any fear? I would we myself.

927
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, what do you mean by theater? Like,

928
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.880
<v Speaker 2>am I afraid of him? No? I'm not. No, it

929
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>was it was it was frightening, no, no joke all

930
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever side the first time I lay I

931
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:12.639
<v Speaker 2>laid eyes on him, Yeah, there was like a shocked,

932
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, fear factor for a minute or so. But overall, man,

933
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 2>like I don't you know you'd be surprised that the

934
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 2>things that I'm scared of it, I mean, it'd be

935
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:25.440
<v Speaker 2>something you'd probably laugh at me, Like I'm scared of height.

936
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was, I was when I climbed, when

937
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.119
<v Speaker 2>I when I re arranged my climbers stand, I climbed

938
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 2>up that I had to be twenty five feet. So

939
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.119
<v Speaker 2>they say at thirty feet a white tail. Even if

940
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 2>they just can't wind you, they can't get your sin,

941
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 2>you know. So I didn't want to go that high.

942
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to go how it was, but I

943
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 2>needed to get as close as that thirty foot Marcus.

944
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:47.639
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I could. And even then I may

945
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 2>have been shy of but anythow that didn't have a

946
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>measure mistake. But I was more nervous about being up

947
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that high than I was because when I saw him,

948
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 2>all your your your adenoaline spikes. I don't care who

949
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.480
<v Speaker 2>you are, how composed you are, you're adrenaline spike. You're

950
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>hearing dolls itself and everything else kind of slows down.

951
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Like I guess that's your body's response to or your

952
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 2>instincts or whatever, your response to do an out like

953
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 2>an outside threat but you know what I'm what I'm

954
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:20.840
<v Speaker 2>afraid of. What I'm terrified of other than you know,

955
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 2>heights and getting a stop. Afraid of needles as well.

956
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 2>You'll have a laugh at me. But uh, I'm afraid

957
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 2>of my my you know, my kids being living in

958
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:35.199
<v Speaker 2>the world where those things are. I'm a helicopter dad,

959
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I'm I'm I'm my kids. But man,

960
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.920
<v Speaker 2>by their old enough move out happened my dad, leave

961
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 2>me alone. I don't care. They're gonna be safe, you know,

962
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 2>they you know, I try to work on letting them

963
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.880
<v Speaker 2>have a little bit more freedom, you know or whatever.

964
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>But now you know, man, they definitely can't go outside

965
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:58.559
<v Speaker 2>by themselves. I've never once seen this thing at my

966
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:05.199
<v Speaker 2>house I live. I I live probably I live forty

967
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.960
<v Speaker 2>minutes from my grandparents' property like my house where I

968
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 2>live where I reside with my family, it's probably forty

969
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:14.760
<v Speaker 2>minutes me, you know. But I still as being the

970
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:16.960
<v Speaker 2>helicopter dad that I am and not having a dog

971
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>like Dallas anymore. I don't have a big male dog

972
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to protect my kids anymore. My dogs would do it,

973
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:24.719
<v Speaker 2>but it's just not the same sense of security, you

974
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 2>know that I used to get. But I'm terrified of

975
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.400
<v Speaker 2>my kids being outside with something like that out there,

976
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 2>like that scares. That scares me to the point of

977
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:40.199
<v Speaker 2>like I don't even know, like I don't have words

978
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:44.639
<v Speaker 2>for that. That's terrifying. I mean, that's terror. But yeah,

979
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm plenty scared. I'm not. I'm not

980
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:48.360
<v Speaker 2>going to say that I'm not scared of anything at all,

981
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:50.760
<v Speaker 2>because yeah, I'm I'm scared of that. I don't fear

982
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:54.519
<v Speaker 2>any man. And you know, seeing that thing, you know

983
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, I'm used to it, never used to it.

984
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.679
<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm not afraid of him. You know, i'd

985
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm not king of Earth either, But you better have

986
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 2>as much of a healthy fear of me as I

987
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:13.760
<v Speaker 2>could have him. But I mean, I don't. No, I'm

988
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:17.079
<v Speaker 2>scared of plenty I do have. I do have fear,

989
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:18.960
<v Speaker 2>no doubt, Yeah, I have fear.

990
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 3>It's only natural that you would, and you are human

991
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:26.280
<v Speaker 3>after all. One of the reasons why this has been

992
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:30.760
<v Speaker 3>so difficult for me is just one of the reasons

993
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:34.760
<v Speaker 3>is the fact that what something you just mentioned. Your kids,

994
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, kids are going to be kids. You can

995
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.320
<v Speaker 3>only throttle them back so much. They're going to be kids.

996
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:44.920
<v Speaker 3>And I mean in our conversations, I've been trying to

997
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 3>impress upon you how dire of a situation this is.

998
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.960
<v Speaker 3>You asked about if you moved, what are the odds

999
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.000
<v Speaker 3>that might follow you? Well, like we talked about in

1000
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 3>that last conversation, Yeah, there is every possibility that that

1001
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 3>fil knows where you live. It followed you home from

1002
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 3>your grandfather's house. No guarantee that's the case, but there's

1003
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 3>a strong possibility that that is reality. Well, if it

1004
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 3>does know where you live, then one of the frustrating

1005
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.880
<v Speaker 3>aspects of all this is you could move one hundred

1006
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 3>miles away and it might show up one day. I

1007
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 3>don't know how they do that, but I mean that

1008
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:28.239
<v Speaker 3>happens with these things. So it goes right back to

1009
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:31.880
<v Speaker 3>the whole fact that there are no easy solutions for this.

1010
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:36.079
<v Speaker 3>It's just really frustrating, it really is. It's frustrating for me, So,

1011
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 3>like I said, I can only imagine how frustrating it's

1012
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:42.679
<v Speaker 3>got to be for a dad. You trying to wrap

1013
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.719
<v Speaker 3>your mind around all this and to try and resolve it.

1014
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 2>It's just bad. Yeah, it was just me. You know,

1015
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have kids about wasn't married. You know, it

1016
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.400
<v Speaker 2>is what it is. You know, I'm not gonna let

1017
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.480
<v Speaker 2>it control me. I'm not going. I'll never not go

1018
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.719
<v Speaker 2>to my grandparents' house. I mean, you know, And that's

1019
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 2>that's my play. I don't care. I don't think I

1020
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:15.960
<v Speaker 2>said this before, but I don't care how long that

1021
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.159
<v Speaker 2>thing's been around. I don't. It doesn't matter to me

1022
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 2>one bit. That's that's mine, that belongs to me and

1023
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 2>my family, and you know that's I myself will be okay.

1024
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I just I just want my kids to be okay.

1025
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hope that's the case. I hope you will

1026
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:38.039
<v Speaker 3>be okay. There is no guarantee on that, unfortunately, because

1027
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 3>as sneaky as these things are, as fast as they are,

1028
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.519
<v Speaker 3>if it really wants to come get you, if you

1029
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 3>go into that area, put yourself in its presence, then yeah,

1030
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:49.119
<v Speaker 3>it's in total control of that. I don't care if

1031
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.760
<v Speaker 3>you're armed or what. It's just a bitter truth than this.

1032
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:58.679
<v Speaker 3>The next question is from Mark Mazumucci Mazzamechi, and he

1033
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 3>wants to know any chance of upgrading the four wheeler

1034
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:04.519
<v Speaker 3>to something with walls.

1035
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Huh, the four wheeler was upgraded, so the one. What?

1036
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Uh what, Grandpa? And it's my grandfather for this is

1037
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:19.559
<v Speaker 4>a mine that this happened with. But uh so, up

1038
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 4>until this past December, he had a.

1039
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Under a Foreman five hundred the fuel injected one full drive. Yeah,

1040
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:33.880
<v Speaker 2>perfect farm four wheeler. Uh h terribly fat in my

1041
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 2>might run forty five fifty miles an half or something

1042
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:43.079
<v Speaker 2>like that. But uh and since then Grandpa has upgraded

1043
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.519
<v Speaker 2>to a cannon Renegade one thousand R. Which what possessed

1044
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:50.400
<v Speaker 2>him to do that? I have no idea, But I

1045
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:54.519
<v Speaker 2>will tell you that while I was, while I was

1046
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:57.679
<v Speaker 2>out and about right after, you know, while before I

1047
00:59:57.719 --> 00:59:59.440
<v Speaker 2>made my move to go back to the house this

1048
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>last time around, dude, I was rip roorn, snorting that

1049
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:08.079
<v Speaker 2>thing and screaming for that dude, he'd have had a

1050
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:10.239
<v Speaker 2>time catching me if he if he'd ha showed himself again,

1051
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 2>he'd had a time catching me on that thing, because

1052
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 2>it was a I mean, my grandpa is seventy seventy

1053
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:24.639
<v Speaker 2>six seventy seven now, and uh, I just I'm not sure.

1054
01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure he bought it because he knows I want,

1055
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:29.159
<v Speaker 2>because he knows I want to pull my my duck

1056
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:32.000
<v Speaker 2>boat duck hunting with it and stuff. I mean, it's

1057
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just bad to fall. It's grateful with it.

1058
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:37.280
<v Speaker 2>But he's he's never been a side by side guy.

1059
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:39.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's never really been one of the you know,

1060
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess. Uh, I don't know if it's something to

1061
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 2>do with it being closed or or what. But uh no,

1062
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:49.480
<v Speaker 2>if I I don't know, if I get something by myself,

1063
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.679
<v Speaker 2>yeah I might get I might get something to think closed.

1064
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:54.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just safer for the kid, even if

1065
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.559
<v Speaker 2>we're not talking about you know this, it's just safe

1066
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:00.679
<v Speaker 2>for kids to have something over their head. Say some

1067
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 2>crazy happens and you roll or whatever. Yeah, I get

1068
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>for me, I guess that's possibility. Now, Grandpa, he spent

1069
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 2>his money. He's tired in the Dutch, but he ain'tna

1070
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:11.079
<v Speaker 2>spend money on anything else.

1071
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, keep in mind too, if you're riding around out

1072
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 3>there and something that's got walls, that's just to make

1073
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 3>you feel better. If it wants to get you. It

1074
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.000
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter if you're in a side by side with

1075
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:25.840
<v Speaker 3>glass doors. It can still get you if it wants to.

1076
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:29.880
<v Speaker 3>So I'm glad, you know, to keep ahead your head

1077
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:34.719
<v Speaker 3>on a swivel, because anytime if it does decide that

1078
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.400
<v Speaker 3>it really has it in for you, it wants to

1079
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.760
<v Speaker 3>get you, then yeah, that's when all the problems really start.

1080
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately.

1081
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 3>This next question for you is from Catherine Cohen, and

1082
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 3>she wants to know do you have a plan in

1083
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 3>place if this dog man breaches your home?

1084
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, yeah, I do. Well, I mean, you know,

1085
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:58.119
<v Speaker 2>it's much of a bunch of a plan as you

1086
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:02.400
<v Speaker 2>can have. I mean, it really would depend. You know,

1087
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:05.960
<v Speaker 2>am I in my home in the middle of the

1088
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:07.599
<v Speaker 2>night in the sins? I mean, I've got dogs. It

1089
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:12.360
<v Speaker 2>won't get in my house without me knowing. But my

1090
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:15.960
<v Speaker 2>my doors and windows stay locked. So I mean, other

1091
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.639
<v Speaker 2>than fourced entry, there's no way it's going to get in,

1092
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:24.400
<v Speaker 2>which you know, of course not you know, not a naive.

1093
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:30.199
<v Speaker 2>If he wanted to fourth entry, he certainly could. But yeah, yeah, man,

1094
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:33.079
<v Speaker 2>we got a twelve games with a bunch of slugs,

1095
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 2>a three o eight loaded up with all five rounds

1096
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and smith and Western forty caliber pistol that has been

1097
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:41.559
<v Speaker 2>old trusted by my side and has stopped him once.

1098
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Whether you know he just decided, Okay, how that hurt,

1099
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:48.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna leave or or that thing's a danger to

1100
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 2>my life. I don't know. I'm not in his head,

1101
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.880
<v Speaker 2>but uh, yeah, I know, my my wife is is

1102
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 2>really good with a gun. I'm really good with a gun.

1103
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know, all but our oldest. We have two

1104
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 2>youngest children sleep in our bed, so they'd be right there.

1105
01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 2>But uh, you know, my oldest are into the house.

1106
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's really it's Yeah, I guess there's much

1107
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:18.079
<v Speaker 2>of a plan as you can have in place. It's

1108
01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:21.559
<v Speaker 2>just kind of hard to plan for, you know, something

1109
01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:24.679
<v Speaker 2>you don't know, many angles on, you know. But yeah,

1110
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean I guess as much as you can't have one,

1111
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:27.280
<v Speaker 2>we have one.

1112
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Well those are that thing. I hope that never does happen,

1113
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.440
<v Speaker 3>so you have to find out how prepared you are

1114
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.679
<v Speaker 3>in that event. I really hope it never does. Hondra's

1115
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Kirazalez has the next question. He wants to know. Sorry

1116
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:44.960
<v Speaker 3>to ask this, but where their heart's gone. I'm sure

1117
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:47.559
<v Speaker 3>he's asking about your grandfather's two dogs.

1118
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:56.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm honestly not sure. I know they were partially eating,

1119
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:04.440
<v Speaker 2>and you know, my Paula does it's not some of them,

1120
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:10.920
<v Speaker 2>but like that's my grandpa or whatever. But responsibility and

1121
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:11.840
<v Speaker 2>told me they was.

1122
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:19.920
<v Speaker 3>So maybe, well that is their mo o. So yeah,

1123
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.199
<v Speaker 3>if the dog man did actually dispatch them, then there's

1124
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:28.800
<v Speaker 3>a strong possibility that's the case. So yeah, it's unfortunate.

1125
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 3>This next question is from Michigan meat Eater, and he

1126
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.639
<v Speaker 3>wants to know did you feel as safe as you

1127
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:38.599
<v Speaker 3>could in the tree or do you think they can climb?

1128
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, because I'm scared of heights. First of all,

1129
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm terrified being up there. But no, I mean it

1130
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:50.480
<v Speaker 2>was kind of it was more so that he didn't

1131
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:56.599
<v Speaker 2>see me, yeah, at first, and it was just kind

1132
01:04:56.599 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 2>of I guess it was like knowing that I had

1133
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:03.280
<v Speaker 2>to drop on him, essentially because I promise you. I

1134
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.760
<v Speaker 2>promised you. If i'd have had my three oh a,

1135
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if one would have done the job

1136
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 2>or not, but i'd have put one right in the

1137
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.039
<v Speaker 2>left side of his face or on the left side

1138
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:16.519
<v Speaker 2>of his head. But I mean, I'm a decent shot

1139
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:19.519
<v Speaker 2>with a pistol. I mean, I'm well above average shot

1140
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:23.440
<v Speaker 2>with a pistol, but at seventy yards through brush and

1141
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:26.239
<v Speaker 2>all that, it's just, you know, that wasn't something I

1142
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:29.599
<v Speaker 2>was willing to I wouldn't I wouldn't that comfortable say that,

1143
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:34.599
<v Speaker 2>but being being up might have given me a little

1144
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:38.320
<v Speaker 2>bit of extra security. But no, I mean I did.

1145
01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:43.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, excuse me, I thought to myself

1146
01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:47.960
<v Speaker 2>at some point that you know, he's going to have

1147
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:51.920
<v Speaker 2>to come up this tree, and when he does, he's

1148
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:54.679
<v Speaker 2>going to be directly below me. And you know, a

1149
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:59.559
<v Speaker 2>big bulky climber. Stand I mean, it's like a it's

1150
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 2>like a I mean what brand it is, But it

1151
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:07.079
<v Speaker 2>was I had had a good shot down the tree

1152
01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:10.719
<v Speaker 2>under me. He he you know, he'd have had to

1153
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:13.480
<v Speaker 2>come straight from the ground directly to me and snatch

1154
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:16.159
<v Speaker 2>me out or whatever he plan to do, because I

1155
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:20.039
<v Speaker 2>you know him, him not having eyes on me and

1156
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:22.760
<v Speaker 2>not winding me at first and having to drop on

1157
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:25.880
<v Speaker 2>him is really what gave me my there's no sense

1158
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:27.639
<v Speaker 2>of security. Let me let me not say that, let

1159
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.280
<v Speaker 2>me not miss leave anybody. It gave me as much

1160
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.239
<v Speaker 2>of a sense security as I could have had in

1161
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:33.920
<v Speaker 2>that situation.

1162
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:39.079
<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, in a situation like that, you'll take

1163
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:42.599
<v Speaker 3>any bit of confidence or feeling of security that you

1164
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:47.239
<v Speaker 3>can get. So I'm glad you had some looks like

1165
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:50.679
<v Speaker 3>Andre's car Azalez. This is another question for you. He

1166
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:54.199
<v Speaker 3>wants to know, Kim, did this attack seem malicious in nature?

1167
01:06:55.800 --> 01:07:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, man, do this I will be honestly,

1168
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:05.639
<v Speaker 2>it's it's been. It seemed like it was malicious since

1169
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:10.119
<v Speaker 2>the first time. I mean what I tell you when

1170
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I say that, man, this thing had my dog man like,

1171
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.559
<v Speaker 2>he had a hold of him, and it was this

1172
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:29.079
<v Speaker 2>isn't something, you know. So he had bitten Dallas a

1173
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of times by the time, by the time I

1174
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.960
<v Speaker 2>was up and standing and was fully conscious of where

1175
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I was and what was going on and why I

1176
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:40.000
<v Speaker 2>heard the noises that I was in. I don't realize

1177
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:48.960
<v Speaker 2>how big this thing's claws are. Right Like he Dallas

1178
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:52.559
<v Speaker 2>couldn't have got if he was you know, if he

1179
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 2>was fully, fully conscious and still full of fight, he's

1180
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:02.360
<v Speaker 2>still cutting. He still couldn't have gotten way that. I mean,

1181
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:06.519
<v Speaker 2>he had calls in him while he looked at me.

1182
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:11.199
<v Speaker 2>And when I when I when I say that, you know,

1183
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:13.719
<v Speaker 2>he didn't open his mouth and use words. He didn't.

1184
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:17.079
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear a voice in my head. But come on, boy,

1185
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.119
<v Speaker 2>come here, boy, come here to me, Come here, boy.

1186
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:25.880
<v Speaker 2>That that challenge, that that that goating. They're trying to

1187
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:29.239
<v Speaker 2>goad me into and I and now looking about, I

1188
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:31.479
<v Speaker 2>did exactly what he wanted. I ran straight for him.

1189
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:33.920
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what he wanted me to do. And you know,

1190
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't really care, man, I you know, I die

1191
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:39.279
<v Speaker 2>with my brother. I don't. I don't. I don't. You know.

1192
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:42.199
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have I would never want to leave my kids.

1193
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:45.760
<v Speaker 2>But man, in that moment there there was there was

1194
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:47.960
<v Speaker 2>one option, and it was trying to save my dog. Man.

1195
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.680
<v Speaker 2>But he was I mean, he was already gone, and

1196
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't, you know, I didn't realize that. But

1197
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 2>he was very well already gone. And he knew that.

1198
01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Not Dallas, but this thing. It knew that. But man, no,

1199
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:05.199
<v Speaker 2>when he when he saw me this this past Friday,

1200
01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:09.840
<v Speaker 2>but whatever do fridays go her along those? No, Man,

1201
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.000
<v Speaker 2>when he turned and looked, and so I'm telling you

1202
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it was it was the wind must have been at

1203
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.920
<v Speaker 2>my back for like a couple of seconds, because there's

1204
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:19.520
<v Speaker 2>no way he winded me so fast as to I

1205
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:21.439
<v Speaker 2>just felt the breeze behind me and he winded me

1206
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:28.279
<v Speaker 2>because we were still forty yards maybe if that I'm

1207
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:32.039
<v Speaker 2>probably more like thirty. But no, man, he looked up

1208
01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:33.560
<v Speaker 2>at me and showed me to like he knew who

1209
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:38.399
<v Speaker 2>I was. He's, dude, there's near human intelligence in these things.

1210
01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not an I'm not an expert or anything

1211
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:45.960
<v Speaker 2>like that. But you know, I've I've I said this

1212
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:48.760
<v Speaker 2>to Vic and it's and it's in a weird way,

1213
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:52.760
<v Speaker 2>but I've got way more experience with this thing, or

1214
01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:54.760
<v Speaker 2>with these things in general than most people. I've got

1215
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:56.880
<v Speaker 2>face to face experience with them, which not a lot

1216
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.680
<v Speaker 2>of people can say. And when I tell you that, yeah, no, absolutely,

1217
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:05.399
<v Speaker 2>there's no question that there's there's malice about it. I mean, yeah,

1218
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:06.840
<v Speaker 2>he looked at me and showed me his teeth. I

1219
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know if he was trying to

1220
01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:11.359
<v Speaker 2>get beer from me or you know, that was just

1221
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:17.600
<v Speaker 2>something he does instinctally. Maybe it probably is. Maybe, but uh, yeah,

1222
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:21.560
<v Speaker 2>there's there's no lack of malice when it comes to

1223
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:22.239
<v Speaker 2>me in this thing.

1224
01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Fairly, no, I'd say not. Unfortunately, it looks like Sonia

1225
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Vassalo has the next one up on deck. She wants

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01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:35.680
<v Speaker 3>to know. Sorry if Cam mentioned this and I missed it,

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01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:38.720
<v Speaker 3>but what color were the dog man's eyes?

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01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Man, there's between yellow and amber. I guess that would

1229
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:50.680
<v Speaker 2>call it amber. And you know it's they don't stand

1230
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.239
<v Speaker 2>out as much in the daytime, you know, obviously, so

1231
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:57.439
<v Speaker 2>but uh man that that first night when we saw him,

1232
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:00.600
<v Speaker 2>it was that was man that was creepy. That I mean,

1233
01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 2>his his size and his posture and the way he moved.

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01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Really what was what was the creepy part about it?

1235
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:09.399
<v Speaker 2>And I knew what it was like, you know, I

1236
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:12.199
<v Speaker 2>knew as soon as he stood up. I didn't even

1237
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:14.920
<v Speaker 2>have like a complete and total visual on him yet,

1238
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 2>but that's what was creepy. But no, they're you know,

1239
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess amber is like a yellow brown, I guess,

1240
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 2>but I guess, I guess yellow would be the best word,

1241
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:33.359
<v Speaker 2>the best. And I guess I saw less of him

1242
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:35.239
<v Speaker 2>this past time around because I was, like I said,

1243
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 2>broad daylight, I don't sign as much, but I have

1244
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:44.880
<v Speaker 2>seen him when they were at there or most whatever

1245
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the illuminated whatever the word is. But it's it's pretty

1246
01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:52.159
<v Speaker 2>close to yellow. That's the best part I can give you.

1247
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got too good to look at them, unfortunately,

1248
01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:02.079
<v Speaker 3>could he laughing? Wolf has next question. Coodie wants to know, Well,

1249
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:06.039
<v Speaker 3>it's actually a piece of advice. His message is, Kim,

1250
01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I feel for you. Be safe, but don't take this

1251
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:12.680
<v Speaker 3>creature lightly. Sasha maybe a sweetheart by comparison, but yours

1252
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:13.720
<v Speaker 3>is indeed a monster.

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01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I mean, man, I won't I promise. I'm

1254
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I said if I was a single dude

1255
01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:23.840
<v Speaker 2>with no kids, that's you know, that's not something I

1256
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:29.239
<v Speaker 2>would ever stay lightly. I'm glad your experiences don't go

1257
01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:31.319
<v Speaker 2>this way, and I hope and pray that they never do.

1258
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:41.560
<v Speaker 2>As a Yeah, I just don't. Oh, it's just just

1259
01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:50.920
<v Speaker 2>confusing and unnerving. And if you're a man, if your

1260
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.520
<v Speaker 2>experiences with yours are pleasant, do whatever you can to

1261
01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 2>keep it that way, because I'm you.

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01:12:55.840 --> 01:13:03.000
<v Speaker 5>Know, I'll I'll die before I take him lightly. You

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01:13:03.079 --> 01:13:06.239
<v Speaker 5>know it's there, I die if I did take him lightly.

1264
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I guess, but uh hopefully I'd say I'd be I'd

1265
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 2>say I'd be happy he was up and left and

1266
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:17.760
<v Speaker 2>was gone forever, and if if there was some way

1267
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I could know that he would never come back without

1268
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:25.399
<v Speaker 2>him being dead. But at this point that's just it's

1269
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:27.640
<v Speaker 2>really just not enough for me. Like I want to

1270
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:31.039
<v Speaker 2>see him, I want him. I don't want to mount

1271
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:32.920
<v Speaker 2>any stuff on the wall. I don't want to say

1272
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 2>him like that, but I want him dead. He's got

1273
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:39.800
<v Speaker 2>to go. There's there's evil there, man, there's absolutely evil there.

1274
01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:42.720
<v Speaker 2>And you know it's it's kind of a like it's

1275
01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:47.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of muddy water we're waiting in right now, because honestly,

1276
01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Tyler casts the first stone. If you if you really

1277
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:51.840
<v Speaker 2>want to, really really really want to break it down,

1278
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:55.920
<v Speaker 2>sput hair to get technical. You know, we fired on him,

1279
01:13:57.079 --> 01:13:59.039
<v Speaker 2>but the dude had no b I mean, he didn't

1280
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:02.079
<v Speaker 2>have any business there, Like you didn't have what business

1281
01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:04.680
<v Speaker 2>you have coming and trying to scare me? You know

1282
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:07.039
<v Speaker 2>what business you have trying to elicit some kind of

1283
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a some kind of you know, trying to feed on

1284
01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:13.920
<v Speaker 2>my fear or whatever, if that's true or whatever. It mean,

1285
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.199
<v Speaker 2>you don't have any business coming around me or my family,

1286
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:19.680
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, God forbid, if i'd had my kids

1287
01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:22.399
<v Speaker 2>with me, you know what do you I don't even

1288
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:24.600
<v Speaker 2>know that's do that's I don't even think about that,

1289
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:34.399
<v Speaker 2>but uh, I promise I would definitely have it. That's

1290
01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:37.159
<v Speaker 2>that's at all. You know, everything came to a head.

1291
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Stop out for one second, taking a lot, man, I

1292
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:45.079
<v Speaker 2>promise you that I will not uh moving forwards. But yeah,

1293
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:49.800
<v Speaker 2>if you I got to look into your your bit, dude,

1294
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to know how your interactions with what you

1295
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.720
<v Speaker 2>call Sasha. I'd like to know how those go. That

1296
01:14:56.800 --> 01:15:00.119
<v Speaker 2>might must be nice to have non violent interact. It

1297
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:01.960
<v Speaker 2>is just one of these things, man, I would know.

1298
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:06.079
<v Speaker 3>I wish they could all be that way. I really do.

1299
01:15:07.039 --> 01:15:09.760
<v Speaker 3>And just to make a reminder, like I said at

1300
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:13.279
<v Speaker 3>the top of the show, Tuesday night, nine pm Eastern Time,

1301
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Cody's going to be on updates about his most recent

1302
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.439
<v Speaker 3>experiences with Sasha, So I hope you can make it

1303
01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:23.640
<v Speaker 3>and listen to him do that. The next question for

1304
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.279
<v Speaker 3>you is from David Daniels, and Dave wants to know

1305
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:29.399
<v Speaker 3>was he close enough to tell if his eyebrows are

1306
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:31.359
<v Speaker 3>as expressive as dogs can be.

1307
01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, damn, Tony, there's there's near human intelligence

1308
01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:43.359
<v Speaker 2>with these. Like I've had dogs. I've had dogs that

1309
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.680
<v Speaker 2>were crazy smart, Like they most of the time dogs

1310
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:50.119
<v Speaker 2>understand the tone of your voice or a certain sound,

1311
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 2>or they associate a certain word with something that they like,

1312
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:57.960
<v Speaker 2>like when you when you say to a dog, Hey, hey,

1313
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:02.920
<v Speaker 2>what would you like to do to day? Dallas, would

1314
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.439
<v Speaker 2>you be partial to maybe a cold cup of tea,

1315
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:08.399
<v Speaker 2>or would you like a treat and here's treat and

1316
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:10.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh yeah, no, And you see that you

1317
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:13.560
<v Speaker 2>get that reaction for him, whether it's he cocks his

1318
01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:16.640
<v Speaker 2>head or he barks or you know, he cuts his

1319
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.600
<v Speaker 2>eyes at you with his with his eyebrows like that.

1320
01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:22.079
<v Speaker 2>But no, I mean there's it's deeper than that. It's

1321
01:16:22.119 --> 01:16:24.920
<v Speaker 2>absolutely deeper. I mean, dud luck to me with this

1322
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:30.239
<v Speaker 2>hateful it's so much different than a hateful look from

1323
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:35.760
<v Speaker 2>a person would give you because there's like, I'm not

1324
01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:42.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna say there's human h features. I mean obviously there

1325
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:49.520
<v Speaker 2>are his hands, you know, but I wouldn't even compare

1326
01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:51.279
<v Speaker 2>it to it. I mean, it's it's like staring down

1327
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:56.039
<v Speaker 2>a big nightmarish harry human that wants to do you

1328
01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:59.079
<v Speaker 2>in each year or whatever. I mean, it's I wouldn't

1329
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:01.920
<v Speaker 2>compare that to it. That's that's something that's innocent and

1330
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.279
<v Speaker 2>pure and kind of you know and illicit smiles from

1331
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:07.880
<v Speaker 2>people when dogs cocked their head or give you that

1332
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:10.760
<v Speaker 2>facial expression. I definitely wouldn't compare it to that.

1333
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's definitely apples and oranges. Bang Bang has the

1334
01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:19.720
<v Speaker 3>next one for you She wants to know, Kim did

1335
01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 3>it smile?

1336
01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:26.640
<v Speaker 2>No? No, No, he didn't smile. Man, I feel like

1337
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:28.880
<v Speaker 2>he was smarting at me that like the first time

1338
01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:33.399
<v Speaker 2>by while he was killing my dog. I feel like

1339
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:37.319
<v Speaker 2>there was a smart like it was a you know,

1340
01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't know, not not this time. No,

1341
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:51.199
<v Speaker 2>because it was I mean, it was anger and this

1342
01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:57.239
<v Speaker 2>animalistic determination that I'll get you. You know, I just can't.

1343
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I cannot stress that enough. I'll get you those three words,

1344
01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.439
<v Speaker 2>I'll get you those three words come to your boy,

1345
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:09.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I just yeah, I don't. Oh.

1346
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:10.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure tons of thoughts were going through your head

1347
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.880
<v Speaker 3>about what it was thinking at the time and saying

1348
01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:17.079
<v Speaker 3>to itself. So I'm sure there have been other thoughts

1349
01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:18.680
<v Speaker 3>besides that as well.

1350
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't doubt it.

1351
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:22.880
<v Speaker 3>David Seal wants to know how tall the tree was

1352
01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:28.960
<v Speaker 3>that you're in. When you have this experience, have.

1353
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:32.119
<v Speaker 2>No idea it's a big I mean a big tree side.

1354
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean they ain't you know, a big one hundred

1355
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:35.960
<v Speaker 2>year old oak tree, big or anything like that. It

1356
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:40.279
<v Speaker 2>was small enough to climber stand on comfortably where I had,

1357
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:42.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I felt like I wouldn't I didn't have

1358
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:46.920
<v Speaker 2>my I probably had it on the I was like

1359
01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:51.680
<v Speaker 2>one one peg or so above the or one peg

1360
01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:57.880
<v Speaker 2>or so from having it like fully extended. Yeah, I

1361
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:00.439
<v Speaker 2>couldn't tell you how tall the tree it was. Any tall,

1362
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:02.479
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I wouldn't a third of the way up

1363
01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the tree his eyes, I was probably one hundred feet tall.

1364
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1365
01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Maybe, well that's still pretty darn tall. David Daniels wants

1366
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:15.479
<v Speaker 3>to know didn't have any patterning on its fur.

1367
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, he's dude. He's dark dark gun metal gray

1368
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:29.039
<v Speaker 2>like like not not black, not black, but there's I

1369
01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:31.439
<v Speaker 2>mean he's probably dirty a little bit too, but no,

1370
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.279
<v Speaker 2>he's dark gray man, just straight up as plain Jane

1371
01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:40.279
<v Speaker 2>as you can be, dark gray like. There's no I mean,

1372
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:43.079
<v Speaker 2>I got a good look at him this time. There's

1373
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:47.840
<v Speaker 2>no there's no mistaking, there's no that's not night time,

1374
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:51.880
<v Speaker 2>this time broad daylight. The dude is exactly the way

1375
01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I remember him, just I say, playing there's no plane

1376
01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:57.600
<v Speaker 2>to its just the flat color.

1377
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:03.119
<v Speaker 3>You got too good to a look. Baby girl wants

1378
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:04.960
<v Speaker 3>to know. Was he very muscular?

1379
01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's more like a lean muscle though, Like

1380
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I said, I've heard a lot of people say, like, man,

1381
01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:15.960
<v Speaker 2>this thing looks like a body builder like I had.

1382
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:20.039
<v Speaker 2>And you know, there I didn't seem abs. I mean,

1383
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, yeah it was obviously has abdominal abdominal muscles,

1384
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:29.920
<v Speaker 2>but you can't really there's no distinguished techtooral muscles or

1385
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:35.239
<v Speaker 2>abdominal muscles. But it shoulders are big, like I said,

1386
01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I said Vica screenshot of I don't remember what it was.

1387
01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:41.159
<v Speaker 2>It was from it like the thumbnail from one of

1388
01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:43.079
<v Speaker 2>his episodes. I don't remember which one it was or

1389
01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:46.640
<v Speaker 2>what it said, but the picture in it is I

1390
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:50.840
<v Speaker 2>mean that it's it's shoulders are slightly larger than what

1391
01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 2>that picture was. And that's that's about it. I mean,

1392
01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:58.399
<v Speaker 2>it looks just like him, Like it's almost like somebody

1393
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:01.640
<v Speaker 2>was there and took that picture. Sure you know, but

1394
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:08.880
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, it wasn't a I mean, he wasn't buff

1395
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:11.119
<v Speaker 2>like so like I hear some accounts of these things

1396
01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:15.760
<v Speaker 2>being but I mean, yeah, he's wild animals, the musculars

1397
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:16.359
<v Speaker 2>he needs to be.

1398
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:21.359
<v Speaker 3>That picture. I'm looking for the episode number right now.

1399
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I remember he said. The caption says when I talk

1400
01:21:27.119 --> 01:21:28.399
<v Speaker 2>about them, they come around.

1401
01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:30.600
<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yeah, episode five.

1402
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's the one. I just I just saw

1403
01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the thumbnail and it was kind of like not deja vou.

1404
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:42.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know that's I mean, that's it, Like that

1405
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:46.840
<v Speaker 2>is that is all? But it I mean his ears

1406
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:51.600
<v Speaker 2>aren't long and pointy. I mean, every everything pretty much

1407
01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:53.079
<v Speaker 2>from what I can tell in that because it's not

1408
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:56.079
<v Speaker 2>like a full picture where it stands up and you know,

1409
01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:59.520
<v Speaker 2>you get a few like I got of this thing.

1410
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:03.680
<v Speaker 2>But that's that's it. I mean, if I had to

1411
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:05.960
<v Speaker 2>say that, this one is the closest I've ever seen

1412
01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:06.600
<v Speaker 2>that takes it.

1413
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Got another question for you. I don't really know what

1414
01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:15.359
<v Speaker 3>her name is, it's symbols, but she wants to know

1415
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.800
<v Speaker 3>why don't you call the Fish and Wildlife, who will,

1416
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:21.079
<v Speaker 3>in turn tell you it's a bear, of course, but

1417
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:24.159
<v Speaker 3>they will also call the federal who will I think

1418
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.560
<v Speaker 3>she means federal authorities who will come eradicate it? Well,

1419
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.840
<v Speaker 3>they might, and they might not. Odds are they won't

1420
01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:34.319
<v Speaker 3>eradicate it, and all he would be doing is bringing

1421
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:38.399
<v Speaker 3>trouble down on himself. So definitely recommend against doing that,

1422
01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:42.359
<v Speaker 3>would not recommend that at all. This next one is

1423
01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:45.159
<v Speaker 3>from Liz M and she wants to know so this

1424
01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:48.319
<v Speaker 3>one looked like a hyena from the first encounter. Well,

1425
01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:53.640
<v Speaker 3>this was the dog man from the first encounter, so yes, definitely.

1426
01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:56.479
<v Speaker 3>The next one is from David Z three to four

1427
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:59.239
<v Speaker 3>and Dave wants to know how much furd did it

1428
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:00.199
<v Speaker 3>have on the show.

1429
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Shoulder I shoulders to the covered fir. I mean, you

1430
01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:08.159
<v Speaker 2>can tell. The only reason I can tell his shoulders

1431
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:10.239
<v Speaker 2>are bigger is because they kind of bulged out of it,

1432
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:14.600
<v Speaker 2>not like huge, bulging handed ball shoulders. But I mean

1433
01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:20.119
<v Speaker 2>there's he's big, and he's I mean, he's I mean,

1434
01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I forget how big. The only gauge I really have

1435
01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:27.399
<v Speaker 2>of how you know, other than just seeing him and

1436
01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>have an eyes on him, how big he is was

1437
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:35.479
<v Speaker 2>the the tree that he walked out and walked out

1438
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>towards while me and Tyler, you know, the first time

1439
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:39.840
<v Speaker 2>we ever saw him for some of e laid eyes

1440
01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>on him. There's a bit old branch and I had

1441
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:44.279
<v Speaker 2>a measurement on it. I forget how tall it was,

1442
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:48.279
<v Speaker 2>but uh, I mean he was like I think I

1443
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:51.479
<v Speaker 2>said that they want hunched over, but on two feet

1444
01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.159
<v Speaker 2>they're never just standing straight up with their backs straight

1445
01:23:54.159 --> 01:24:01.520
<v Speaker 2>with a good posture. But I mean for monster, and

1446
01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:08.720
<v Speaker 2>you know it's face. It says, what does it say?

1447
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:13.159
<v Speaker 2>How much hair was on his face? I mean, all right,

1448
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>like a dog's face. It's not it's not like I said.

1449
01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:19.600
<v Speaker 2>It's not like in like I've heard some other people

1450
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:23.479
<v Speaker 2>descript like some people's descript and say, uh, you know,

1451
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:26.279
<v Speaker 2>you like there's there's almost no hair on their chest,

1452
01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:31.159
<v Speaker 2>or don't. That's not like he's he's hairy. He's like

1453
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:37.199
<v Speaker 2>a dog pretty as well as I can describe it.

1454
01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't. It doesn't seem to be any lack of

1455
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:41.239
<v Speaker 2>hair anywhere on him. There's a lack of the tail.

1456
01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't have a tail. I know that much. I was

1457
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty sure that the first time he turned and ran

1458
01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and I saw his hind quarters, and I tell you

1459
01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:53.000
<v Speaker 2>there's no tail on him. I keep saying him. I

1460
01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:56.279
<v Speaker 2>don't see genitally either, but I you know, I get

1461
01:24:56.319 --> 01:24:58.279
<v Speaker 2>the sense that the thing is a male because there's

1462
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:06.760
<v Speaker 2>this real sense of clash or whatever between us, which whatever, I.

1463
01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Think, you're right, Yeah, I beg of money. And this

1464
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:13.159
<v Speaker 3>some meal from his actions and all his behavior. This

1465
01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:16.159
<v Speaker 3>next one is from Michigan mediater. He wants to know,

1466
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:20.399
<v Speaker 3>have you your grandpa gotten anything like tril cam picks tracks,

1467
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:21.039
<v Speaker 3>et cetera.

1468
01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Now a stingle one, not a stingle one. So the

1469
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>whole thing with uh And I'll be honest with you, man,

1470
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>if I did have him, I wouldn't show him anybody.

1471
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:35.399
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, that's a I don't know. If Vic

1472
01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:37.520
<v Speaker 2>wanted a picture, I probably if I had one, i'd

1473
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>send it to him, I'd imagine. But uh no, So

1474
01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:45.199
<v Speaker 2>where he was hard day's pain us for somebody that

1475
01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:49.279
<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen his Probably so from the direction he was

1476
01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:53.560
<v Speaker 2>coming from, he was in the spot where if you

1477
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.319
<v Speaker 2>heard the you know, the account of what happened the

1478
01:25:56.319 --> 01:26:01.119
<v Speaker 2>first time. When we first see him, we didn't realize

1479
01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:04.279
<v Speaker 2>we were seeing him, didn't realize what it was. We

1480
01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:07.239
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a big deer or two hogs standing

1481
01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>next to each other or something, because he was down

1482
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:12.800
<v Speaker 2>at the and there's no change in my mind about it.

1483
01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:16.239
<v Speaker 2>At first. Tyler looks down through his scope and he's like, man,

1484
01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>there's there's something down there. I can't tell what it is,

1485
01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>but it's big, you know. Anyway, it's him. That thing

1486
01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:28.079
<v Speaker 2>was probably fifteen feet out of view of the camera

1487
01:26:28.119 --> 01:26:31.119
<v Speaker 2>that was down there. Because there is a camera down.

1488
01:26:32.079 --> 01:26:36.840
<v Speaker 2>But and I could be wrong about this, but if

1489
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:41.960
<v Speaker 2>he stalks that pine tree for us, right, which would

1490
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of explain why he was there that night and

1491
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>why he was able to you know why, it's explain

1492
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>why he was there if he stalks that pine before,

1493
01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:53.279
<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of big deer in there, which

1494
01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:58.239
<v Speaker 2>means a lot of big food sources. Makes sense. But

1495
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I was reading this sad track. Somebody said,

1496
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>that's just like the one. I hope you haven't seen

1497
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>one at all, feel but uh, what was the question?

1498
01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:16.359
<v Speaker 2>I put it off my train of thought. Read back.

1499
01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's all right, I lost my train of thought

1500
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:25.800
<v Speaker 3>too when you mentioned Tiffany's comment. Tiffany is an eyewitness

1501
01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:30.720
<v Speaker 3>who's had multiple encounters. So yeah, I mean she's going

1502
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:33.239
<v Speaker 3>to be on this upcoming Friday show where she's going

1503
01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:35.640
<v Speaker 3>to talk about some of the experiences that she's had.

1504
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:38.039
<v Speaker 3>It's an update show. She's already been on the show.

1505
01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:42.439
<v Speaker 3>She's going to talk about and encounter she had where unfortunately,

1506
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:45.159
<v Speaker 3>two dog men were fighting just feet away from her

1507
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:49.840
<v Speaker 3>out in her woods. So yeah, she knows what you're

1508
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:54.399
<v Speaker 3>going through with the unfortunate things you've experienced, not to

1509
01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:57.760
<v Speaker 3>interrupt you, I apologize. If you're not sure what the

1510
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:01.039
<v Speaker 3>question was, then I can throw the next one at you.

1511
01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I don't. I don't know if I answered.

1512
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if they have questions, I want to answer it.

1513
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:09.680
<v Speaker 3>If I remember correctly, I think he did answer it.

1514
01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think he did.

1515
01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:15.399
<v Speaker 3>The next one is from David Daniels. He wants to

1516
01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:18.439
<v Speaker 3>know or it's a comment. I can't imagine the anger

1517
01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:21.680
<v Speaker 3>you're feeling from losing the dogs. How do you control yourself?

1518
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Uh? I mean, you know if you call me control

1519
01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:36.199
<v Speaker 2>of myself, you know what I'm what I'm I mean,

1520
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:38.159
<v Speaker 2>I guess because I have bid man. You know, I

1521
01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:42.159
<v Speaker 2>can't just clock out, you know, I can't just I

1522
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:47.159
<v Speaker 2>can't just go and and uh, you know, recklessly throw

1523
01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:53.279
<v Speaker 2>myself into mindless pursuit of this monster that killed my dog.

1524
01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Though I would love I man, I love him to

1525
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.840
<v Speaker 2>be dead at my feet, you know. And I'm not

1526
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:01.039
<v Speaker 2>an evil or malicious person, you know, I'm not. It's

1527
01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:03.079
<v Speaker 2>just he's taken so much from me and doesn't even

1528
01:29:03.119 --> 01:29:05.399
<v Speaker 2>know it. He isn't not even aware of it, like

1529
01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:08.479
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, tax free for him that he killed. Well,

1530
01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:10.439
<v Speaker 2>not really, because I guess it's good shot so time.

1531
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know he didn't well on that. You know,

1532
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>that's not something that bothers him. It bothers me that

1533
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>my dog's gone. It bothers me that my kids can't

1534
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>go outside, that I can't allow them to go outside

1535
01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:27.239
<v Speaker 2>by themselves. And but that's you know, man, they're They're

1536
01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:29.600
<v Speaker 2>the only thing, man, the only thing that keeps me

1537
01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:32.760
<v Speaker 2>from I mean, I dude, i'ma be honest with me, man.

1538
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:36.720
<v Speaker 6>If I didn't have kids, if I didn't have kids, Ida,

1539
01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:42.600
<v Speaker 6>at some point, i'd have gone looking for him to

1540
01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:44.159
<v Speaker 6>an extent far greater than I had.

1541
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I went after after good season was over,

1542
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Hunt's period, deer Duck and all that was over last year,

1543
01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:56.600
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I went and sat in my stand by myself,

1544
01:29:57.800 --> 01:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>by myself. I did not take Tyler. I didn't my grandpa.

1545
01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:03.479
<v Speaker 2>I was going nothing like I would pull my truck

1546
01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>past the barn. So my grandpa wouldn't know that I

1547
01:30:06.399 --> 01:30:08.439
<v Speaker 2>was sitting out there, because I know he'd came out

1548
01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>there with me. And that's you know, I cannot be

1549
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>responsible for him being in the line of fire if anything,

1550
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:18.439
<v Speaker 2>which you know what happened. But Uh, oh, man, it's

1551
01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:21.800
<v Speaker 2>knowing that I'm I guess I'd call it the strain.

1552
01:30:22.359 --> 01:30:25.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, our kids to come home too, man, and this,

1553
01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:28.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just if I'm if I'm not here,

1554
01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:31.159
<v Speaker 2>who protects them from things like that? I mean, I

1555
01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:33.720
<v Speaker 2>don't have Dallas anymore. You don't have I don't have

1556
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:37.079
<v Speaker 2>a I don't have dogs made of gold that I

1557
01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:39.239
<v Speaker 2>know would give his life to protect me or my

1558
01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>kids anymore. It's just me. So's that's about it.

1559
01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Man, I'm so sorry it's that way. Also, I really

1560
01:30:48.680 --> 01:30:53.680
<v Speaker 3>am sham Borzi's next question. They want to know, Kim,

1561
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:56.319
<v Speaker 3>if you tried to rebuke it in Jesus' name.

1562
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, listen, this is something I'd go too

1563
01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>far into. But I'm a man. I'm not religious anyway,

1564
01:31:07.880 --> 01:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been in years. Uh tried to be. I

1565
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>grew up that way. You know. I lied to myself

1566
01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:17.399
<v Speaker 2>for several years, telling myself I still was and I

1567
01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:19.119
<v Speaker 2>was still with the lead, and I'm still this and

1568
01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I still that. And uh yeah, my my family kind

1569
01:31:22.720 --> 01:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>of clutched their pearls at me when they, you know,

1570
01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>realized that I couldn't make myself believe anymore. You know,

1571
01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>like there's a choice I had and I didn't believe

1572
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>anymore I could make myself do this. No I haven't. Uh,

1573
01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I haven't done that. I have not h But you know,

1574
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:40.520
<v Speaker 2>if if there's a guy and here were to show

1575
01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>up and uh and where this one up for me, yeah,

1576
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>i'd uh, yeah, I'd rebuke anything in his name to

1577
01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:50.119
<v Speaker 2>be honest. But no, I have not.

1578
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:56.439
<v Speaker 3>All Right, I've got the second, the last question for you.

1579
01:31:57.319 --> 01:32:01.159
<v Speaker 3>It's from Tiffany, and Tiffany wants to know. Have ever

1580
01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:04.359
<v Speaker 3>thought about going out on your property, your grandfather's and

1581
01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:07.880
<v Speaker 3>just talking out loud a truth just for you and

1582
01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:11.119
<v Speaker 3>your family's sake. It's worth a shot. I'm praying for

1583
01:32:11.159 --> 01:32:14.600
<v Speaker 3>you and your family. Kim. You know what, Tiffany, that's

1584
01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:17.239
<v Speaker 3>one of the frustrating things about this. That's one of

1585
01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:19.800
<v Speaker 3>the reasons why I was laying in bed the night

1586
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:22.359
<v Speaker 3>that Kim and I had that conversation about what's been

1587
01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>going on recently, about this recent encounter. Unfortunately, that wouldn't work.

1588
01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:30.960
<v Speaker 3>That's advice I gave you in your situation, but that

1589
01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:34.279
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't work in his situation. Because this is a dog

1590
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:39.239
<v Speaker 3>man that's been shot twice in two different encounters, is

1591
01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:42.960
<v Speaker 3>what I'm getting at the first time around, Tyler shot

1592
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:47.800
<v Speaker 3>the dog man, and well Kim did too, but that

1593
01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:52.319
<v Speaker 3>happened when the first encounter took place, another encounter happened

1594
01:32:52.840 --> 01:32:55.760
<v Speaker 3>and it was shot again. So yeah, there's no going back.

1595
01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:58.319
<v Speaker 3>There's no truce or anything like that with this thing.

1596
01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna stand down for that reason because Cam

1597
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:07.920
<v Speaker 3>goes out and asks for it too. It's going to

1598
01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:11.159
<v Speaker 3>stand down because it just decides to stand down if

1599
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>that's the case, if it actually does that. So yeah,

1600
01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:16.239
<v Speaker 3>that's one of the reasons why this is so frustrating

1601
01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:20.640
<v Speaker 3>for me. Is just a frustrating no win situation. At

1602
01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:24.920
<v Speaker 3>every turn I was thinking about options. Every option I

1603
01:33:24.920 --> 01:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>could think up was just a no go. So that's

1604
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:31.920
<v Speaker 3>why it's so difficult. The next question is the last

1605
01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:34.960
<v Speaker 3>one of the night. It's from Sham and Numinezer, and

1606
01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Shannon wants to know, are you still upset at your

1607
01:33:37.960 --> 01:33:40.079
<v Speaker 3>friend for taking the first shot?

1608
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>No? Well, well, man, that that was like a trivial

1609
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>thing at the point that would go and I'd say, well,

1610
01:33:51.720 --> 01:33:54.119
<v Speaker 2>it's tallahand done and we wouldn't be here this or that,

1611
01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know, think about it, just just think about it, right,

1612
01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't find VIC Channel until after all

1613
01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:07.600
<v Speaker 2>this had happened. I would I probably still wouldn't have

1614
01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:09.800
<v Speaker 2>told anybody this story if I hadn't found VIC Channel.

1615
01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>But that being said, you know, we're here, we're talking

1616
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:21.840
<v Speaker 2>about dog Man right now, right this this is the

1617
01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>topic of conversation. So this is something that's on our minds.

1618
01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>We're consciously aware of it, we're thinking of it. Just

1619
01:34:28.960 --> 01:34:32.800
<v Speaker 2>imagine you're not oblivious because like al I said, when

1620
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>when when the dude stood up, I know exactly what

1621
01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I was seeing, Like there was no it was it

1622
01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>was still like, you know, like, oh my god. But

1623
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:44.760
<v Speaker 2>there's no doubt I knew what I was looking at.

1624
01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:49.359
<v Speaker 2>But imagine being somebody who didn't think that, and you

1625
01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>see this like Tyler, like Tyler Thomer didn't know what

1626
01:34:55.600 --> 01:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>we were looking at, right like I you know, I mean,

1627
01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:04.399
<v Speaker 2>I guess he knew. But that's not something that you're

1628
01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>prepared to see or have a run in with or

1629
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, God for bt habit standing so close to

1630
01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you staring it. I mean, man, that thing looked like

1631
01:35:14.960 --> 01:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>it like like we were pieces of meat. You know,

1632
01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:25.119
<v Speaker 2>there there's no there's no, there there's no there's no

1633
01:35:25.239 --> 01:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>humanity in those eyes. There's there's no there's no. You

1634
01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:32.479
<v Speaker 2>don't look in there and and and see something that

1635
01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:35.760
<v Speaker 2>you could communicate with, you don't. And those those eyes

1636
01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>are they're not black, they're they're this weirdly yellowish ambrish color.

1637
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:42.800
<v Speaker 2>That's that's eerie as hell. And it grows on it

1638
01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:46.439
<v Speaker 2>that I mean, growth blows on its own. I mean

1639
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>it's it's got to be almost eight feet tall, between

1640
01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:55.199
<v Speaker 2>seven and eight feet tall, big long arms, with hands

1641
01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>on the end of big claws, big teeth, dog like

1642
01:35:58.960 --> 01:36:01.840
<v Speaker 2>leg like his legs are cut. That's a that's you

1643
01:36:01.880 --> 01:36:05.479
<v Speaker 2>know in movies as a kid. That's what scared me them,

1644
01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:06.800
<v Speaker 2>not scared me, I mean it was the whole thing

1645
01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>scared me. But those those feet, those those backwards, those

1646
01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:13.680
<v Speaker 2>haunches or whatever whatever you want to hawk, what do

1647
01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you wanna call them? That is really what what was that?

1648
01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:21.840
<v Speaker 2>What's what creeped me out. But imagine being a person

1649
01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:26.600
<v Speaker 2>who doesn't listen to dog Man Radio, who's just out

1650
01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:28.560
<v Speaker 2>hunting with your friend, and all of a sudden you

1651
01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>were looking at a literal monster. What would you do?

1652
01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:35.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, you've got a gun, What would you do

1653
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:39.479
<v Speaker 2>And you could say, oh, well, I wouldn't shoot because

1654
01:36:39.479 --> 01:36:42.199
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be harm unless, yeah, Howard doesn't watch a

1655
01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:45.399
<v Speaker 2>dog man encounters. Yet Howard did what he thought he

1656
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:48.399
<v Speaker 2>needed to do to keep bus state. And you know,

1657
01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:53.399
<v Speaker 2>whether he was right or wrong, that's not that's not

1658
01:36:53.479 --> 01:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>really a moral question. It's it's a it's a you'd

1659
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>have to ask somebody who knows about dog men to answer,

1660
01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to have somebody answer that question, like, you know, Tyler

1661
01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>wasn't prepared for that. I wasn't prepared for that, and I,

1662
01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:17.119
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I mean, you know, it's just it's

1663
01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:20.720
<v Speaker 2>no I'm I'm I'm I'm definitely not mad at Tyler

1664
01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:25.399
<v Speaker 2>because even if that thing wouldn't have harmed us, even

1665
01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:29.760
<v Speaker 2>if it even if it played out to where, yeah,

1666
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>he could have not shot it and we could have

1667
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:34.199
<v Speaker 2>walked out of there and I'd have still had my dog,

1668
01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:37.199
<v Speaker 2>and man, yeah, that'd be lovely, that would be lovely,

1669
01:37:37.239 --> 01:37:41.279
<v Speaker 2>but I would still be here in this same you know,

1670
01:37:41.359 --> 01:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>frame of mind of I can never bring my kids

1671
01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>out here again. This thing is there's a literal monster

1672
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:52.079
<v Speaker 2>hanging around my grandparents' house, in this place where I've

1673
01:37:52.119 --> 01:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>run barefoot as a child until I got old enough

1674
01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>to have a dirt bike and a go cart. And

1675
01:37:57.640 --> 01:37:59.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean me and my dogs were out here.

1676
01:37:59.479 --> 01:38:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean that thing had no place there, none like his.

1677
01:38:04.479 --> 01:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>His presence was completely totally unwarranted, unwanted, and I mean

1678
01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:13.279
<v Speaker 2>just unwelcome, like he That thing is not he's he is.

1679
01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>It may not seem like it. And I'm and I'm

1680
01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:19.039
<v Speaker 2>not bragging on myself, but he's just as unstafe around

1681
01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:23.119
<v Speaker 2>me as I am around there, and and and I'm

1682
01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>not gonna blame Tyler for that. That's he reacted as

1683
01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:31.600
<v Speaker 2>a you know, I mean, Tyler's not the panicky type.

1684
01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:35.600
<v Speaker 2>He was afraid. Yeah, but I'm telling you, man, Tyler

1685
01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:37.560
<v Speaker 2>is one of those people when we're at work and

1686
01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:39.920
<v Speaker 2>something needs to get done fast and there's like a

1687
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:43.600
<v Speaker 2>rush to do it, Tyler performs under pressure like That's

1688
01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:46.319
<v Speaker 2>that's why we're friends. We have that about each other,

1689
01:38:46.399 --> 01:38:50.880
<v Speaker 2>like you know. But no, no, no, I'm not gonna

1690
01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>fault Tyler for doing I mean, if you see a

1691
01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:56.039
<v Speaker 2>monster and you have you feel like you have the

1692
01:38:56.079 --> 01:38:59.680
<v Speaker 2>ability to kill it, would you as a normal person,

1693
01:38:59.720 --> 01:39:03.079
<v Speaker 2>if you cut your experiences on dog man radio out

1694
01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:06.399
<v Speaker 2>and say you'd never heard of it before. If you

1695
01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:09.079
<v Speaker 2>were standing there in that field, in that pasture, in

1696
01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:13.880
<v Speaker 2>our position to what would you do? Yes, it's fine.

1697
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Answer to the question is a question, Kim.

1698
01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:22.279
<v Speaker 3>It's like this. Do I wish Tyler never would have

1699
01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:24.199
<v Speaker 3>pulled the trigger on that dog man when you had

1700
01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:30.000
<v Speaker 3>that first encounter, Yes, definitely. Do I think that Dallas

1701
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.279
<v Speaker 3>would still be here if Tyler wouldn't have shot that

1702
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:36.119
<v Speaker 3>dog man when you had that first encounter, Yes, I

1703
01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:40.560
<v Speaker 3>do think Dallas would be here. I do totally understand

1704
01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:43.560
<v Speaker 3>why he shot the dog man. I wish you wouldn't

1705
01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>have done it, but I understand it. It's all too

1706
01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:50.520
<v Speaker 3>easy to sit here and armchair quarterback this from the

1707
01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:53.520
<v Speaker 3>comfort of your own home and you're not out there.

1708
01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:54.079
<v Speaker 2>With the thing.

1709
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Of course it was a distance from you too, but

1710
01:39:57.279 --> 01:40:00.880
<v Speaker 3>it's all too easy after the fact, armchair quarterback this.

1711
01:40:01.520 --> 01:40:05.520
<v Speaker 3>But what's done is done. That's water under the bridge.

1712
01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:08.960
<v Speaker 3>There's no going back and changing that. When you have

1713
01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the second encounter, you shot it. I don't blame you.

1714
01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:18.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't blame you for shooting a dog man, the

1715
01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:22.680
<v Speaker 3>dog man that had already been shot by both you

1716
01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:27.479
<v Speaker 3>and Tyler on the previous encounter, or in the previous encounter,

1717
01:40:27.560 --> 01:40:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I should say, you had already shot it. And with

1718
01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:35.319
<v Speaker 3>that in mind, you saw that dog man start walking

1719
01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:39.479
<v Speaker 3>towards you. Well, you had history with that thing, and

1720
01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:43.319
<v Speaker 3>a bad one too, so you had every reason to

1721
01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:48.520
<v Speaker 3>believe that it was coming for you to take your life,

1722
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:52.880
<v Speaker 3>because at one time, at one point during that first encounter,

1723
01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:55.920
<v Speaker 3>it gave every indication it was about to take your

1724
01:40:55.960 --> 01:40:58.039
<v Speaker 3>life when it was standing above you, when you woke

1725
01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:02.279
<v Speaker 3>up and Dallas jumped in and saved you. So yeah,

1726
01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:06.000
<v Speaker 3>when you had that second encounter, I wish the situation

1727
01:41:06.119 --> 01:41:07.840
<v Speaker 3>would have been laid out so that you had to

1728
01:41:07.960 --> 01:41:11.079
<v Speaker 3>fire on it. But I mean you were in control

1729
01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:14.319
<v Speaker 3>of that it decided to approach you, to walk towards you,

1730
01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:17.640
<v Speaker 3>and when it did, I normally tell people only shoot

1731
01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:21.680
<v Speaker 3>a dog man if you're convinced you're gonna die anyway. Well,

1732
01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:23.760
<v Speaker 3>in your situation, I don't blame you at all for

1733
01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:25.520
<v Speaker 3>shooting it that time.

1734
01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:31.479
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, when I'm so the you know,

1735
01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:34.079
<v Speaker 2>the first I guess I was, I guess what I

1736
01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:35.600
<v Speaker 2>was wrong, and I was gonna say, I'm gonna say, well,

1737
01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:38.760
<v Speaker 2>you know why why did it come for me? You know?

1738
01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:41.039
<v Speaker 2>When it when? It when it when he planked us,

1739
01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:43.039
<v Speaker 2>right when he when he had tackled us, or when

1740
01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:46.159
<v Speaker 2>he tackled me. I guess he can get all of us.

1741
01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I was just the impact block that actually took the force,

1742
01:41:52.760 --> 01:41:55.520
<v Speaker 2>you know. But he came after me, and I was

1743
01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:57.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, why would he do that? Twer shot it.

1744
01:41:57.359 --> 01:42:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I shot him too, But I guess, I guess I

1745
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:03.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't make any sense. I was going to ask him question.

1746
01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I already got the answer to you. But yeah, man,

1747
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:16.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, I absolutely you know, if I if I

1748
01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:19.199
<v Speaker 2>hadn't you know, this is come weeks ago. Man, if

1749
01:42:19.239 --> 01:42:21.079
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't shot him, I wouldn't be here telling y'all this.

1750
01:42:22.279 --> 01:42:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Y'all have never heard another thing from me ever. I'd

1751
01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:28.720
<v Speaker 2>have just been you know, cam from whatever episode I

1752
01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:31.960
<v Speaker 2>was on, and if any I don't even know if

1753
01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:34.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody else would ever thought about me again or wondered, hey,

1754
01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what happened to that guy, or you know whatever.

1755
01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:41.159
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I definitely I definitely didn't have a choice

1756
01:42:41.199 --> 01:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the second time. I guess the first time we did

1757
01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and I was on the way, I did I did

1758
01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:49.399
<v Speaker 2>you know it was I swear on my light it

1759
01:42:49.479 --> 01:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>was coming out of my mouth. No, don't and he

1760
01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:56.279
<v Speaker 2>let one rip. I mean I can't. I can't blame him.

1761
01:42:56.439 --> 01:43:00.560
<v Speaker 2>But no, yeah, and you're you are right. I want

1762
01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:02.760
<v Speaker 2>nothing more than to believe that you are right. That

1763
01:43:02.960 --> 01:43:07.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe maybe I still have my dog, you know,

1764
01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:12.880
<v Speaker 2>or something that had happened. But the water under the bridge,

1765
01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:16.960
<v Speaker 2>as you said, and uh, you know, take it and

1766
01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:18.399
<v Speaker 2>try it as it comes from it.

1767
01:43:19.960 --> 01:43:23.159
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Yeah, that is water under the bridge. There's

1768
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:25.159
<v Speaker 3>no going back and changing that. All you can do

1769
01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:28.840
<v Speaker 3>is just focus on what's before you win. Just do

1770
01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:31.640
<v Speaker 3>the best you can with the life you have, and

1771
01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:35.279
<v Speaker 3>that's all there is to it. Well, Kim, like I

1772
01:43:35.319 --> 01:43:37.600
<v Speaker 3>told you before, I can't thank you enough for coming

1773
01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:39.600
<v Speaker 3>back on to update this. I hope that was the

1774
01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:42.319
<v Speaker 3>last experience you ever we have with one of these guys,

1775
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:46.439
<v Speaker 3>most notably that one. But if anything ever does happened

1776
01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:49.239
<v Speaker 3>in the future, by all means, please let me know

1777
01:43:49.319 --> 01:43:52.399
<v Speaker 3>if I can help you somehow some way, I definitely will,

1778
01:43:52.520 --> 01:43:54.359
<v Speaker 3>so please keep that in mind.

1779
01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:59.439
<v Speaker 2>And you're the big first person to get the story itself,

1780
01:44:00.720 --> 01:44:03.600
<v Speaker 2>and I hope I never have one to gain. Would

1781
01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:05.279
<v Speaker 2>love a reason to talk to you again, because man,

1782
01:44:05.319 --> 01:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>it's always pleasure. But I hope I don't again.

1783
01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Well that makes two of us. Yeah, I hope you

1784
01:44:12.119 --> 01:44:14.960
<v Speaker 3>never do also, And of course it's always great talking

1785
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:17.640
<v Speaker 3>with you, but just not about things like this because

1786
01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:20.560
<v Speaker 3>no one should have to go through this. You really shouldn't.

1787
01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:23.439
<v Speaker 3>But having said that, thanks again so much for your

1788
01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:25.439
<v Speaker 3>time and I hope you have a great weekend.

1789
01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Also. Thanks appreciates time.

1790
01:44:29.279 --> 01:44:30.920
<v Speaker 3>You're welcome. We'll see you.

1791
01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Well. Everyone.

1792
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Thanks again so much for tuning in and for supporting

1793
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:41.760
<v Speaker 3>these eyewitnesses the way you do. Like I've said countless times,

1794
01:44:41.800 --> 01:44:44.399
<v Speaker 3>you'll never know how much of a difference it makes

1795
01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:47.960
<v Speaker 3>in their lives. It really does help tremendously and for

1796
01:44:48.039 --> 01:44:51.720
<v Speaker 3>that I can't thank you enough. Just one last reminder.

1797
01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:55.000
<v Speaker 3>On Tuesday night, if you didn't hear before, there's going

1798
01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:57.439
<v Speaker 3>to be a special bonus show where Code's going to

1799
01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:00.760
<v Speaker 3>come on and talk about his most recent experiences with Sasha,

1800
01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:04.399
<v Speaker 3>the female dog woman that has been paying him visits.

1801
01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:08.359
<v Speaker 3>It's a case of this dog woman lives around his

1802
01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:12.600
<v Speaker 3>property in almost on a nightly basis. If he doesn't

1803
01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:15.159
<v Speaker 3>see her, then she does things to let him know

1804
01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:19.199
<v Speaker 3>that she's around and after that next Friday, like I said,

1805
01:45:19.279 --> 01:45:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Tiffany's going to come back on and she's going to

1806
01:45:21.960 --> 01:45:24.600
<v Speaker 3>talk about her most recent experiences, and she's going to

1807
01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:26.920
<v Speaker 3>have her daughter, her ten year old daughter with her.

1808
01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:32.159
<v Speaker 3>Her daughter had a very unfortunate experience that involved their dog,

1809
01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:37.399
<v Speaker 3>them losing their dog in a very traumatic way, very

1810
01:45:37.520 --> 01:45:42.600
<v Speaker 3>unfortunate way. I don't know if you notice a pattern here, unfortunately,

1811
01:45:42.720 --> 01:45:46.279
<v Speaker 3>but they'll both be pre Friday night, like I said,

1812
01:45:46.279 --> 01:45:49.239
<v Speaker 3>to talk about that experience, and Tiffany is going to

1813
01:45:49.319 --> 01:45:52.640
<v Speaker 3>talk about that experience I mentioned earlier where those two

1814
01:45:52.640 --> 01:45:56.239
<v Speaker 3>dogmen were fighting just feet from her. So of course

1815
01:45:56.279 --> 01:45:58.640
<v Speaker 3>we hope you tune in for next Friday show as well.

1816
01:45:59.359 --> 01:46:02.319
<v Speaker 3>But before we get out, if you've had a dogman encounter,

1817
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:06.000
<v Speaker 3>a dog me inciting, I should say that you'd like

1818
01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:08.560
<v Speaker 3>to speak with me about to get help with or

1819
01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:10.199
<v Speaker 3>if you'd like to come on the show and be

1820
01:46:10.279 --> 01:46:15.439
<v Speaker 3>a guest, please go to dogmanencounters dot com submit a report,

1821
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:17.720
<v Speaker 3>and if you do that, I'll be more than happy

1822
01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:20.479
<v Speaker 3>to schedule a conversation with you so we can find

1823
01:46:20.520 --> 01:46:23.560
<v Speaker 3>out about your encounter and have a good talk about it.

1824
01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:26.720
<v Speaker 3>But having said that, thanks again so much for listening in.

1825
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:28.199
<v Speaker 3>Have a great night.
