WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.680 Well, w I am Gary Jeff Walker, and it all 2 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:07.839 begins now. It started when I was six years old 3 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:12.560 and got my first transistor radio nine volture for Christmas, 4 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.440 and it opened up this incredible world of music and 5 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:20.320 magical voices coming through the airwaves and right into my 6 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:25.120 brain for better or for worse. This is where my 7 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:29.239 journey started that made me, at the age of seven 8 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:33.359 years old, want to be on the radio someday. And 9 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:38.000 the disc jockeys who saved radio with the advent of 10 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:42.280 television in the nineteen fifties and sixties are the ones 11 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:46.320 that I emulated most. And we have three of those 12 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:50.479 gentlemen featured tonight in interviews from the past year. Great 13 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:55.600 American history on the radio. It's something I love and 14 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:59.399 these are guys again that I ultimately respect, that I've 15 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.079 had the great opportunity to do interviews with over the 16 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.719 last calendar year or so. Tonight, we will start with 17 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:10.079 a true National Radio Hall of Famer. He was inducted 18 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:13.239 last November and I had the chance to speak with 19 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:17.680 him just before it all came down. Well deserved. A 20 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:20.719 man who worked at some of the biggest radio stations 21 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:24.400 in America, started in Detroit, but you'll hear the whole 22 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.480 story if you just tune in. Another one of his 23 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:31.480 compatriots from satellite radio also will be featured on this 24 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:36.840 show tonight. Next hour, we'll be talking to Shotgun Tom Kelly. 25 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:40.120 And if you're not aware of the name or the person, 26 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:46.439 what an accomplished guy who spent his life in radio 27 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:52.840 mostly on the West Coast, but pat Saint John Shotgun Tom. 28 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:56.319 And then at the end of tonight's show, the eleven 29 00:01:56.319 --> 00:02:00.359 o'clock hour, we'll be featuring a man who go by 30 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:03.680 the name of John Records land Decker, and Records is 31 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:07.840 truly his middle name from his mom's side. He's one 32 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:12.039 of the people that further encouraged me by listening to 33 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.719 them to get into this business that I've been lucky 34 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:17.960 enough to be a part of for more than forty 35 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:22.599 four years now. And John Landecker will close up the 36 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.039 show tonight. It was an interview that I always wanted 37 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.879 to have because I grew up hearing John Records land 38 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:32.280 Decker on WLS in Chicago when I lived in the 39 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:36.120 Chicago area as a kid, and then later on as 40 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:39.759 a teenager when John Records land Decker was on at night, 41 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:44.000 and that big signal that eighty nine on the AM 42 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:50.159 dial signal was blasting out across to America, and you 43 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.919 will hear the origins of something called boogie check. If 44 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:57.599 you're not familiar, well it's a great primer on what 45 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:01.599 I grew up with listening to. If you are familiar, Ah, 46 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:04.080 what a treat. Some of your favorites are coming up 47 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.520 tonight too as we count down to twenty twenty five, So, 48 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:11.319 without any further ado, after the break, my interview with 49 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:14.879 Pat Saint John on his way to the National Radio 50 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:20.360 Broadcasters Hall of Fame, a disc jockey that helps save 51 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:25.280 the medium, and he's coming up next on the Nightcap 52 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:29.680 New Year's Eve seven hundred WLW. It would suck if 53 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:31.800 I was in a coma because I'd miss Mike McConnell. 54 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.000 If you were in a coma, you probably wouldn't care 55 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:35.599 about the weather and traffic. 56 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:36.960 But he'd missed the news and sports and. 57 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.879 The investment news and all those McConnell last starting your 58 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:42.080 day getting the latest word at a healthy dose of 59 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.520 my infects you is Mike mcconald's charm makes you feel good. 60 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:47.879 No coma's for me. I want McConnell. So tune in 61 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:49.479 and get the goodness you deserve. 62 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:50.319 Coma free is. 63 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:52.280 The way to be if you love Mike McConnell. 64 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:57.240 Mike McConnell tomorrow morning at bye on seven hundred WLW. 65 00:03:58.199 --> 00:03:59.840 The holidays are a blast. 66 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.520 Was in flame, throwing wats here in the heart of 67 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:06.439 the Midwest out to America at night. And I have 68 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.560 looked forward to this conversation for a long time. But 69 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.479 I will tell you, Gary Jeff Walker checking in, by 70 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.439 the way, I will tell you that this is one 71 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.800 of the harder interviews to do. When you really have 72 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:22.959 such an admiration for somebody you're talking to, you're worried 73 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:24.800 that in the middle of a question it's going to 74 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:29.879 come out, well what about the boof? And I'm just 75 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:32.360 I'm kind of at that point when I was thinking 76 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:33.240 about talking. 77 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:36.439 To this guy. He is one of my radio heroes. 78 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:36.759 You know. 79 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.639 I've been on the radio somewhere for forty three years, 80 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:43.480 and I still get starstruck when I talk to the 81 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.720 people that I admire the most in this business. And 82 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.319 I'm not trying to make him blush or make him 83 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:51.560 feel bad. He says himself that he's tired of talking 84 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:53.920 about his own story, but I wanted to take a 85 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.360 few minutes out tonight. We have a segment here that 86 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:00.120 we do occasionally called American History on the radio. When 87 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.720 we were doing it to relate to certain big events, news 88 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.279 events that happened before the advent of TV and how 89 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.800 radio played an important role. And then we got into 90 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:13.319 some of the local radio stars that people connected with 91 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:17.800 on a regular basis here in Cincinnati and around the Midwest. 92 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:20.800 And so now we're going national. 93 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:24.040 I guess the host of the Pat Saint John Show 94 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:26.199 on sirius XM sixties Gold. 95 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.240 Yes, I am a subscriber. I hope my boss didn't 96 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:29.519 hear that. 97 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.920 Also for forty two years in New York City and 98 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:39.079 started out when I did, I mean I was nineteen 99 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:42.160 years old, right out of what I call thirteenth grade 100 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:44.759 junior college, and that my first professional radio job in 101 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.800 June nineteen eighty. Pat goes back to the seventies in 102 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:54.199 Detroit and CKLW in Toronto. Pat Saint John, good after it, 103 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:55.399 good evening, and how are you. 104 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.680 I'm doing great, Gary, Jeff. That's a pretty nice build 105 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:01.759 up there, pretty nice. 106 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:01.759 I know. 107 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:04.800 I hope nobody's disappointed at the end. But and I 108 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.079 know they won't be My listeners will not be. 109 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:07.800 Pat. 110 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:11.720 The first thing I was gonna ask you about because 111 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.439 it kind of parallels. This is the only thing that 112 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:18.040 parallels are two careers. You've been a lot more successful 113 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:20.959 than me in our forty plus years on the air 114 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:27.040 or almost fifty now, but we both started. We both 115 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.759 started at like eighteen nineteen years old. 116 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.279 That's right. And I was going to say, as far 117 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.680 as success goes, hey, man, if you're doing what you 118 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.360 love to do, and I know you are, you know, 119 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.040 then we're then we're the same on that. 120 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.600 Yeah, what when did you get the first bug? I 121 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:45.759 got bit by the radio bug when I was about 122 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:48.920 seven years old listening to these great DJs out of 123 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.519 Chicago on WLS and WCFL. 124 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.879 What was it for you, Pat, Well, for me, it 125 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.160 was about the same age when I started getting records 126 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.399 when I was six or seven and I was listening 127 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:05.199 to the radio in Detroit stations like w x y 128 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:09.600 Z and w k and R and then c KOW, 129 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:13.079 which is in Windsor, by the way, not Toronto. 130 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:13.560 Right, I know? 131 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:14.480 Yeah? 132 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:17.279 See that was that was that fanboy thing that came 133 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:17.959 back to bite me. 134 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:22.040 Well, that would have been too long of a commute 135 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:26.759 for me, you know. I then, you know, listening to 136 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.959 the to the radio and collecting rock and roll records. 137 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.480 It never occurred to me that I could actually do 138 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:35.680 that on the radio. I didn't even think about that. 139 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.639 And it wasn't until I was in high school when 140 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:43.079 they when they came out with a radio station at 141 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:46.639 the high school in Southfield, Michigan. Southfield is just north 142 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.399 of Detroit, and it was a ten lot FM station. 143 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:53.600 And I used to go down to the hallway and 144 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:57.120 look through the glass and see these students doing these 145 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.360 radio shows. And I listened to him and I go, well, 146 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.800 I can do better than that. And so I asked 147 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:07.839 how would I get involved. They put me in touch 148 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.800 with the with the teacher who was the manager of 149 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:16.240 the station, and he told me, he said, yeah, I 150 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:17.920 think I could use you. I didn't have any of 151 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:20.480 the classes or anything, but he made me. He said, well, 152 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:21.720 you've got to have a third. 153 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.839 Class FCC license, all right. 154 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:26.560 So I went and I took the test and I 155 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.920 got it, and the last half of my senior year 156 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.360 I got on the radio. I was able to get 157 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:37.840 on this station. It had about a five mile radius, 158 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:41.600 but it was still real. In fact, the radio station. 159 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:44.039 I think you'll find this interesting. This was like the 160 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.720 first year of the radio station. It was w s HJ. 161 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.759 That stood for Southfield High JS, which was the name 162 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.440 of the you know, the team the sports teams there, sure. 163 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:57.080 And. 164 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:02.840 That radio station. I wasn't part of it, but the 165 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:07.279 teacher was, and he was able to convince the manager 166 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:12.240 of the Who that we were this radio station in 167 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:16.399 Detroit and we'd love to host a concert, and they 168 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:21.480 said yeah, and on Thanksgiving this was before this was 169 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:25.200 a few months before I actually started, but we actually 170 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:29.600 had the Who in our high school gymnasium. And this 171 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:36.639 was in this was Thanksgiving eve eve in sixty seven, 172 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:42.879 and the Who played our played our gymnasium, with the 173 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:46.120 first group being a local group in Detroit called the 174 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.039 Unrelated Segments. The second group were the amboy Dukes and 175 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.320 then the Who, and they were the DJs from Ckow 176 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.919 who introduced them. So it was it was fascinating. But anyway, 177 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:58.080 I was. 178 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:01.399 Trying to get my job off the will you hoodwink 179 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:05.639 the Who and to play in your high school, you know, 180 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.159 and he got the Duke, So you had Ted Nugent, right, 181 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.320 was part of the Boy Dukes at the time. 182 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:16.440 Oh yeah, uh uh, it was rock and good Night. 183 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:17.519 But anyway, all of that. 184 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.320 Was happening while I was going, well, maybe I could 185 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.000 do this and then I'll try to make a long 186 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:27.960 story short here. And I was dating a girl. This 187 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.279 is just out of high school. And I was dating 188 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:38.279 a girl and her father knew the general manager of 189 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:41.559 w I think it was w q x R. It 190 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:45.519 was a classical radio station in Detroit. He set up 191 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:50.840 an interview with me. And I went down and and 192 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:54.039 you know what, my my mom said, well, you know 193 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:55.919 you're going on an interview like this, you got to 194 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.360 have a suit and tie. She took me out, got 195 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.360 me a suit. You know. I went down. I drove 196 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:06.519 down to downtown Detroit to the station, went in and 197 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:09.440 when I told the secretary, I have an appointment with 198 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.799 so and so. You know, I didn't know anything about 199 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.080 classical music. Didn't matter to me. I just wanted to 200 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:15.080 get in on the radio. 201 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:16.759 Sure and so I. 202 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.159 Said, I'm here. I've got an appointment with mister so 203 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.480 and so. She says, do you have a first class 204 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.799 FCC license? And I said, no, I've got a third 205 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.519 class you know, a first class would enable you to 206 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:32.639 open up a piece of equipment and go inside and 207 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.080 fix it. There was no way I could do that, 208 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:37.799 and so she said, I'm sorry. Our announcers have to 209 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:40.840 have first class licenses because they do double duty. I 210 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:44.039 never even got to see the guy. Never even got 211 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.759 to see the guy. So I'm pretty you know, I'm 212 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:49.600 pretty disappointed. I get back in the car. I'm driving 213 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:55.080 down East Jefferson Avenue in Detroit, and on the left 214 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:58.759 is this great, big marquee, like a theater marquee of 215 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:03.559 radio station WWW known as W four. 216 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:05.840 Right, I'm driving. 217 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.200 Past this thing, and I'm going, well, I don't know, 218 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:11.759 I'm dressed for an interview. I made a left hand turn, 219 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:16.120 drove into the parking lot, walked into the place, asked 220 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:22.360 that secretary do you have any openings for announcers. She says, well, 221 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:26.000 I don't know. We might hold on and she calls 222 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:30.519 the program director. He comes downstairs and says, come on. 223 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:32.759 He gives me a tour of this place. Now, W 224 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:36.279 four at that time was a beautiful music station. Okay, 225 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:41.600 so that's getting closer. It was automated, which means there 226 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:46.000 was just a wall of real to reel recorders and 227 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.480 all of this stuff in my you know, and my 228 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:51.679 jaw dropped and I'm going, man, look at this. Well, 229 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:58.480 he gives me some copy off the off the off 230 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:02.320 the wire and said, here, make me a tape. He says, 231 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:05.759 because we need we do need somebody. So I borrowed 232 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.559 a cassette recorder and a and a microphone from a 233 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:14.480 friend of mine. I talked the news, I did this thing. 234 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:19.320 I drove it down and handed it to him, and 235 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:22.799 by the following weekend he hired me. And I worked 236 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:30.240 the overnight show, doing hourly news headlines, weather forecasts, and 237 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:36.039 doing commercials. And I made two fifty an hour. That's 238 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.039 two dollars and fifty cents. 239 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:40.639 Oh no, I mean very similar to what I was 240 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:43.720 making my first job. And I was, you know, reading 241 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:47.639 news and doing the DJ thing and going to school 242 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:50.759 board meetings to take notes for the local news department. 243 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:52.399 And it was all minimum wage. 244 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.080 Pat Yeah, well, I mean this was probably lit. I 245 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.639 don't know, it didn't matter, it didn't matter at all. 246 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:00.960 I was doing what I wanted to do. So now 247 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:04.080 I'm on the all night show. All of these little 248 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:09.240 news headlines and weather things, they were all pre recorded 249 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.960 you'd record them, then you'd feed them. You'd put the 250 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:16.600 reel to reel on that machine and it would actually 251 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:21.519 it would actually air a little bit later when the 252 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:24.559 automation told it to go to that particular Sure. So, 253 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.720 because I had all this time on my midnight to 254 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:34.960 eight am shift, I was bringing my I was bringing 255 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.200 my own forty fives in and I started making tapes 256 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:43.200 for CKLW, which was which was the number one station 257 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.360 in Detroit, even Toledo. You know, this is in Windsor. 258 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:48.919 And it was a like you say, a fifty thousand 259 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:53.879 want powerhouse that reached you know, half the country at night. 260 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:59.200 So I did that and started sending these tapes to CKLW, 261 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:03.720 and I never got They always said to me, well, 262 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.039 we don't have anything right now, but we'll keep your 263 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:07.759 we'll keep your tape on file. 264 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:10.799 Yeah sure, the old brush off, Yeah. 265 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:13.159 The old brush off. But I sent a few tapes 266 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:17.039 over there and had pretty much given up when one 267 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.240 day they got a new program director. The guy called 268 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.759 me and said we might have something for you. We've 269 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:27.320 got we've got would you you know, could you could 270 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:28.440 you come over for lunch? 271 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:29.279 Uh? 272 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:33.840 Yeah? So I went over there. I had lunch with him. 273 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:38.399 His name was Jim O'Brien and Dick smythe who was 274 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:44.399 the program He was the news director. And now I'm eighteen. Okay, yeah, 275 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:46.840 this is a fifty thousand watch channel. That's the number 276 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:51.799 one channel. And they offered me three nights a week 277 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:59.080 doing the overnight show, two days a week driving around 278 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:03.039 the c K marrow getting news actualities, and one night 279 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:09.159 a week actually pulling a news shift. And I was 280 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:13.360 like and and he offered me one hundred and fifty 281 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:14.080 dollars a week. 282 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:15.080 How about that? 283 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.559 Now that was good money. But because I was used 284 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:22.679 to talking to the DJs, you know, on the phone, 285 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:24.399 I call the hit line and all of this this 286 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:28.919 before I get there, and they told me that the 287 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:33.679 union minimum, the after minimum, was two hundred dollars a week, 288 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.080 which is ten thousand dollars a year. 289 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:38.480 Yeah. 290 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:42.879 So one night I'm on the air and the union 291 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:46.080 steward comes in. He worked at CKLWTV. It was all 292 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:48.279 in one building, and he said, how's it going, you know, 293 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:50.919 and I'm going, oh, this is this is doing great? 294 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:52.840 He said, you know, taking care of you. The JI 295 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:54.639 get a thing. I said, yeah, I'm getting one hundred 296 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:58.159 and fifty bucks a week. He said, huh. He said, no, no, no, no, no, 297 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:01.519 they can't do that. You're gonna get two hundred dollars 298 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.720 a week. That's the minimum. I'll take care of this. Well, 299 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:06.440 the program director wasn't happy. 300 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:07.640 No, no doubt. 301 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.759 Yeah, you know, but that was the union minimum. So 302 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.799 now I'm getting ten thousand dollars a year. My mom 303 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:16.960 and dad said, there's no way they're going to pay 304 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.000 you that kind of money. 305 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:19.400 But they did. 306 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:22.240 And you know what, I was rolling in the dough 307 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.960 at that time, Well, rolling in the dough. 308 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.200 I don't know what, go ahead, please, I was. 309 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:30.680 Just gonna say, I mean, I don't know. And years ago, 310 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:32.960 I mean a couple of years after that, I heard 311 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:36.839 an air check in myself and it scared me because 312 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.960 and I said, why in the world would they hire me? 313 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:44.960 Because when I went in there, I had never had 314 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:50.279 other than five months on the high school station. I'd 315 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:56.440 never been really a DJ. When I had made those tapes, 316 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:01.079 Gary Jeff, I, I like, I wrote down everything that 317 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.519 the DJs said on the air, so that I would 318 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:08.799 have the proper format, I would have the terminology, I 319 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:10.920 would have all of that. That's part of why I 320 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:14.400 got Why I got hired, I think because they could 321 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:16.880 see I knew the format. But at the same time, 322 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.000 when I heard this air check on myself, I went, 323 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.119 why did they hire me? I was awful because what 324 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:23.680 I was doing was copying the other DJs, so I 325 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.799 would be going two oh clock, Oh big ag, and 326 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:31.039 I'm like, it's the greatest thing I ever learned was 327 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:32.559 to kind of be yourself. 328 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:33.559 Yeah. 329 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.200 So, and to this day, I don't like hearing recordings 330 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:39.559 of myself. I can't stand it. 331 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:39.799 Oh. 332 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:42.720 I listened to those early cassettes Pat. 333 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:46.920 Of me at ten ten WHI n the voice of 334 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:51.799 Sumner County Gallaton, Tennessee, And it's the same effect. It's like, 335 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.920 oh my god, what was I doing? And today it's like, 336 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:00.519 you know, I would really like a few more minutes 337 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:02.319 with you. Do you have any any more time at all? 338 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:04.200 Pat? 339 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:05.960 I want to talk about New York, and I want 340 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.680 to talk about what you're doing now, and I want 341 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:12.400 to talk about the Hall of Fame, because oh yeah, 342 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:13.359 this is huge. 343 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:14.160 Pat. 344 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:18.279 Saint John is our guest into the next segment here 345 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:21.640 in the Nightcap, and uh, this is what I've been 346 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:24.119 looking forward to a long time because I'm a fan, 347 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:27.720 and you you don't get to talk to your your 348 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.640 your faves a lot, even at. 349 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:31.680 Even at my level. 350 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.279 So we'll we'll break and we'll come back more with 351 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:38.359 Hall of Famer Radio Hall of Famer Pat Saint John 352 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:42.920 from Sirius XM here on the Nightcap on seven hundred 353 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:44.960 w l W stay Put. 354 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:52.559 News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred w l W, Cincinnati. 355 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:00.359 Many across the globe already into the New y with 356 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.759 the nine thirty report, I'm Shawn Gallagher breaking now the 357 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:06.559 world continuing to ring in twenty twenty five, which will 358 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:10.079 happen soon here in the Eastern time zone. Celebrations already 359 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:11.880 underway at Times Square in New York. 360 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:14.920 Revelers in New York City are gathering in Times Square 361 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.000 getting ready to watch the ball drop and ring in 362 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:20.039 twenty twenty five. Herbert and his wife Susanna flew in 363 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:21.319 from Vienna, Austria. 364 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:24.799 One point on the bucket list was some times Throotble. 365 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.000 Officials say there are more than a million people in 366 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.119 total packing into Times Square this year, taking in musical 367 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:34.400 acts from Rita, Aura, Carrie Underwood, TLC, and others. Mike Debuski, 368 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:35.839 ABC News New York. 369 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:39.920 Now the latest traffic in weather together and right now 370 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:42.519 taking a look at the major interstates and highways. 371 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.480 No new accidents now the late news forecast from a 372 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.039 train heating and cooling weather center on news radio seven 373 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:50.559 hundred wl's job as. 374 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:52.799 Much colder temperatures on the way overnight as we usher 375 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:56.519 in twenty twenty five, rain and snow dwindling into early 376 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:58.960 parts of Wednesday morning, with a few flurries out the 377 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.720 door on Wednesday. We may see a wintry mixed at 378 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:04.079 times throughout the day on Wednesday or New Year's Day, 379 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:05.880 but it will be a little bit above freezing and 380 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:09.599 thirty seven degrees and mostly cloudy skies getting chilli overnight 381 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:12.119 into Thursday down into the mid twenties and will continue 382 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:14.440 the cold spell into the weekend with snow chances Thursday 383 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:16.640 to Friday. From your severe weather station, I'm nine first 384 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:20.799 wanting media rollins just Brandon Spinner. News radios seven hundred wlw. 385 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:23.039 RD are still showing rainshower activity for most of our 386 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:27.759 Try state, seeing some dry spots in Butler, Warren and 387 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.240 also some parts of Clinton County, even seeing some snow 388 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:32.920 mixing in parts of southeast Indiana, mainly in Dearborn and 389 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:37.240 Franklin Counties are current temperature thirty nine degrees. Ohio State 390 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:39.200 Highway Patrol this New Year's he was looking out for 391 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:41.279 those behind the wheel who may be under the influence. 392 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:44.359 Three fatal accidents occurred during the New Year's reporting period 393 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:46.960 last year in the state due to drunk or impaired driving, 394 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.880 while two hundred and eighty arrests were impaired driving were made. 395 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:53.640 Highway Patrol is urging anyone who who believes they see 396 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.880 a suspected impaired driver to call Pound six seven to seven. 397 00:21:57.480 --> 00:21:59.880 Come Friday, the new Congress will be sworn in. President 398 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:02.079 Douk Trump his voice to support for current House Speaker 399 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:04.920 Mike Johnson to retain the gabble, but others in the 400 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.640 GOP don't feel the same way, wanting change. 401 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:10.279 In a series of posts on the X platform Monday, 402 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:13.599 Northern Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey says he will not support 403 00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:16.799 keeping Mike Johnson as Speaker of the House, comparing Johnson 404 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:19.920 to Paul Ryan, saying that the GOP lost its majority 405 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.799 two years after Ryan became speaker, and Massey says he 406 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:24.440 doesn't want history to repeat itself. 407 00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:24.960 Quote. 408 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:27.920 I respect and support President Trump, but his endorsement of 409 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:29.799 Mike Johnson is going to work out about as well 410 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.519 as his endorsement of Speaker Paul Ryan end quote. He's 411 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:35.440 calling on his fellow Republicans to join him. I'm Jack Crumley, 412 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:37.559 News Radio seven hundred WLW. 413 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:40.279 Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow named the AFC Offensive Player of 414 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:43.319 the Week after Saturday's overtime win against the Broncos, in 415 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:45.799 which he threw for four hundred and twelve yards in 416 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.839 three touchdowns. Bengals now getting ready to face the Steelers 417 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:51.119 on Saturday night. They need a win and also some 418 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:53.720 help to make the playoffs. They'll need the Dolphins and 419 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:56.480 Broncos to both lose Sunday. Burrow on the big Week 420 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:57.880 eighteen matchup in Pittsburgh. 421 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:01.759 M time he played divisional opponent's a big game and 422 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:03.079 this one is no different. 423 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:04.799 Means a lot to. 424 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:10.440 The city, to the organization, to the owners, coaches, players, 425 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:13.519 and this is a big game for our season as well. 426 00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:16.440 The Steelers, meanwhile, can still win the AFC North. The 427 00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:18.519 Ravens would have to lose earlier in the afternoon to 428 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:21.440 the Browns and then Pittsburgh would have to win. Kickoffrom 429 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.920 Acrasher Stadium Saturday night, eight o'clock here on the Big 430 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:27.240 One College Basketball, it was Xavier picking up a big 431 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:29.720 ninety four to seventy two win. It's intas Center Overseat 432 00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:32.279 and Haul this afternoon is their first Big East win. 433 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:35.119 The Musketeers will be at Georgetown Friday night to bop 434 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:37.359 at eight here on the Big One. Meanwhile, tenth Brank 435 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:40.359 Kentucky with a eighty eight to fifty four win over 436 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:44.000 Brown at Rapperina. The quarterfinals of the College football Playoff 437 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.400 getting underway tonight, as the start of the third quarter 438 00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:49.400 has Penn State leading Boise State seventeen to seven in 439 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:52.279 the Fiesta Bowl in Glendale, Arizona. On New Year's Day, 440 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:54.640 a triple header As Texas and Arizona State will face 441 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:56.720 off in the Peach Bowl at one o'clock, then at 442 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:58.759 Ohio State and Oregon and the Rose Bull at five, 443 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.359 then eight forty five. I've at Notre Dame in Georgia 444 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:04.079 in the Sugar Bowl, fighting for that last spot in 445 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:06.680 the semi finals. 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Then welcome to the world of Alcopol Cigars, 464 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.279 where we're keeping you real using only premier. Your radio that. 465 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:11.599 I started out with as a birthday or Christmas gift 466 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:17.160 in late nineteen sixty six, the Great thing about transistor radios, 467 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:20.359 and if you were alive and well at the time, 468 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:22.640 I think you can still get them as novelty items 469 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.680 today is that they ran on nine volt batteries. And 470 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:28.720 the way you would check and make sure your nine 471 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:33.880 volt battery was good or not was to take the 472 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:38.519 two the positive and negative prongs on the end of 473 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.400 the nine volt battery and rub them against your wet 474 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.599 tongue if you've got to spark a nice little shock treatment. 475 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.039 The battery was good if there was nothing when you 476 00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:52.160 put your toe. So I guess my first French kiss 477 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.079 was of a nine volt battery, checking to see if 478 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:57.319 it still had power. 479 00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:00.839 Sorry if that's too graphic for you, but. 480 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:06.200 Anyway, with the ninefold battery firmly emplaced in my six 481 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:11.200 transistor ge portable transistor radio, I've got my ear piece in. 482 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.799 Let's listen to part two of the interview with Radio 483 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:16.680 Hall of Famer Pat Saint John. 484 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:38.720 Now on the nightcap. Oh but yes I can. 485 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.759 Part two of our interview with Radio Hall of Famer 486 00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.119 Pat Saint John just announced he was going to be 487 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:51.279 inducted into the National Radio Hall of Fame. With an 488 00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:55.039 incredible class of people. There's no doubt about that. Among them, 489 00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:58.799 one of them that I personally knew was Jerry House 490 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:04.519 from Nashville, from WSIX, and I worked for a short 491 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.319 period of time in between full time jobs at ninety 492 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.359 eight W six when Jerry House was doing mornings there. 493 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.759 So you know, I listened to one Hall of Famer 494 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.119 and I worked with another one of them in this 495 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:17.880 year's class. 496 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.799 So I'll lucky meeting him at the at the induction ceremony. 497 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:23.680 That's really cool. 498 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:25.559 He probably will not remember me. 499 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.359 I was just doing weekends and spot stuff for the station, 500 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.640 but I'd been in the market a long time before 501 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:39.039 that show. Jerry House so inventive, so funny he had. 502 00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:42.160 He actually co wrote a number one song called the 503 00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:47.039 Little Rock I think, yes, while he was there in 504 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:47.880 the music city. 505 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:49.559 So Pat Uh. 506 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.359 After Detroit, you move on to New York, the biggest 507 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:56.039 market in the country, and you stay on New York 508 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.480 radio for over forty years and become a fixture at 509 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.559 places like WPLJ and later WCBSFM. Tell me about a 510 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.000 little bit about the New York days. 511 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:09.720 Pat with WNW FM in the middle there for about 512 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:13.799 eleven years. Yeah, it was really great. You know, when 513 00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:17.880 I left Detroit. I well, actually I worked at wri 514 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:21.920 IF in Detroit, which was the ABC owned and operated 515 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.000 channel there. This is when I was getting where my 516 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.759 head was going, was into the FM stuff, you know, 517 00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:35.319 I was getting into the album cuts and digging that. 518 00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.119 So I got into classic rock and so I was 519 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.319 at WRIF when they offered me the job in New York. Luckily, 520 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.519 the ratings were good in Detroit and they offered me 521 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.200 this gig, which I originally turned down because I was 522 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.720 just getting I thought, starting to get known in Detroit, 523 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:58.200 my hometown. But yeah, they convinced me to come. My wife, 524 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.920 who was my girlfriend, and at the time we decided 525 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:05.359 we went, you know what, we're going to be together forever. 526 00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.839 Why don't we'd do it? And so we got married. 527 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.960 So I moved to New York. Started in April of 528 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.519 seventy three. I worked about four weeks there, flew home 529 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.720 on a Friday, got married on a Saturday, flew back 530 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.000 on Sunday, and we were there forty two years. 531 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.759 Well, I mean, it's it's wonderful if you've got somebody 532 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.279 that cares about you with you going, you know, to 533 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.160 the Big Apple and oh, I mean. 534 00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.680 She's been my you know, she's been my partner, my 535 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.240 better half, as they say, She's helped me through all 536 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.400 these decisions. In this past May, we just celebrated our fiftieth. 537 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.440 Wedding Anima, congratulations, so thank you. 538 00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.079 So you know that was amazing. You wonder where does 539 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:50.759 the time go, because it just it's I don't know 540 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.880 how I got here. I mean, I'm still nineteen in 541 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.359 my head, you know, and it just it goes by 542 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.400 so quickly. But you know, we've had a we had 543 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.359 a oneonderful run when I was and the reason I 544 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:05.799 left New York and at that time I was I 545 00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:11.000 was working for Serious XM already that last station that 546 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:13.480 I was at. Now this is before CBSFM, which I 547 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:18.920 did just for fun while I got hired at Serious XAM, 548 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:24.480 which started off as CD Radio. I started there in 549 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.200 nineteen ninety eight, believe it or not. I was one 550 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:33.359 of the first eight employees. And you know, everybody went, 551 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.839 who's going to pay for radio? 552 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:36.039 Not? 553 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:39.319 You know who's going to do this, but you know, 554 00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.319 but I believed in it sounded like a good deal. 555 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:46.640 So anyway, this October, I'll celebrate twenty five years here 556 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.279 on satellite radio. When I started the satellites weren't even. 557 00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.039 Up yet, simply amazing. 558 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.960 I've been on WLW now for twenty six and a 559 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.920 half years with a Saturday morning show, Good You, Thank You, 560 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:04.160 and I know what it's like to become ensconced and 561 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.759 be one of those people that you know, people have 562 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:10.200 appointment listening. They tune in specifically to hear certain things 563 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.279 that they know you're going to do. And I do 564 00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.799 the same thing with you on the birthdays on your 565 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:20.279 afternoon show on Sirius XM sixties Gold. I always want 566 00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.640 to hear the birthdays because I mean, that's how I 567 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:24.920 start my Saturday morning show at five point thirty in 568 00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:28.759 the morning. I do you know, historical or as I 569 00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:32.519 like to say, historical hysterical notes and people tied to 570 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.400 this particular date in history, including but not limited to these, 571 00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.079 And we do that. But I've done that for years 572 00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:40.839 and some people may think it's corning, but it's something 573 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.920 that I do. It's something you do and something I 574 00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.680 tune in specifically for from Pat Saint John on. 575 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.400 Your Well It's just one of those things that people 576 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.680 like to hear it or it gives you, It gives 577 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.839 me a chance when I say somebody's birthday to get 578 00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:58.240 into you know, to play something from them that you 579 00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:01.920 might not even normal here on a regular basis. And 580 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.319 it's just, uh, you know, it's one of those things 581 00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.400 to uh, to entertain folks, you know, where where our 582 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:11.039 job is kind of to to entertain in between the 583 00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:15.200 records if we can. And I think that uh, you know, 584 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.680 sharing the music, sharing the love for uh, for all 585 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.119 this and for and for radio whatever. It's a it's 586 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.960 a it's a really good thing. It's a personal medium. 587 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.680 It's a communication business. And it's like you know, even 588 00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.519 for you know, a talk show. You can you can 589 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.359 read the internet and read newspapers or whatever, but when 590 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.640 you're connecting with a real human being, I think, uh, 591 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:42.759 you know that's always been. 592 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:44.319 The beauty of radio. 593 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:45.920 Well, no, that's the magic of ready. 594 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.279 That's the whole trick is one to one communication and 595 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.759 you do it so well, and it's all about it's 596 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:55.759 all about you when I'm talking. It's it's not about y'all, 597 00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.359 it's not about hey everybody, it's it's about you. 598 00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:01.240 And it's a one on one. 599 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.880 It's one to one communication when it's done right and 600 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.519 you do it right, and that's one of the reasons 601 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.079 I love listening to you. Of all of them, of 602 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.839 all of the people you have interviewed Pat Saint John 603 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:18.200 through your career, famous folks, musicians and the like. Was 604 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.880 there anybody that just surprised you like you you well, 605 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.000 I didn't expect that. Was there something like that that 606 00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.079 happened in any of the times that, Yeah, being in 607 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.039 New York and stuff, you met them all because they're 608 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.039 all in the biggest city in the country. 609 00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:35.680 When they tend to America or whatever, Yeah, they all come. 610 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.160 So I mean over the years, I mean I have 611 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.039 interviewed well, with the exception of John Lennon, the Beatles, 612 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:47.279 the Stones, the Who since they played my high. 613 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.079 School, Yes, since they played your high. 614 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:54.039 School and they actually, uh they actually remembered it or 615 00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.799 they said they did it anyway, And I have I 616 00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.839 brought in my high school yearbook when I was going 617 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:02.119 to talk to them, and there's a picture of Keith's drum. 618 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.039 Well this was Pete and and Keith and they both 619 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:11.840 signed it. They both autographed the uh my high school yearbooks. 620 00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.599 So that my favorite interview. 621 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.000 Well, I have a couple of them. James Taylor was one. 622 00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:21.800 He was just so sweet Leon Russell. I'm the biggest 623 00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:26.760 fan of Leon Russell anywhere. He he was just he 624 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:28.639 was just the greatest. And to have him on my 625 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.280 show with his keyboard playing, playing anything, he was great. 626 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:36.760 I mean surprising. You asked for surprising, and that might 627 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:41.039 be Keith Richards. And the reason that was so surprising 628 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.000 was he was just so down to earth. He was 629 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.760 just you know, I met Mick Jagger and it was like, Hi, 630 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:51.760 how are you see it? But Keith was just like 631 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.719 a normal person, you know, he was just like friendly 632 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.320 and he was just you know, I don't know. 633 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:03.679 He was just very very laid back and very just yeah. 634 00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.880 Very kindness. Can be no star treatment at all, no, 635 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.920 nothing like that. Just just a conversationalist and that was cool. 636 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:11.199 So that might have been a surprise. 637 00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:12.280 I think the. 638 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:16.679 Biggest one for me. The biggest surprise was the day 639 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.519 that Poco reformed back in the mid eighties. I don't 640 00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.639 know if you remember they actually had a top forty 641 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.920 hit call it Love or whatever, but was the original 642 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:29.320 members of Poco, which of course included Jimmy Messina and 643 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:30.360 Randy Meisner. 644 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:32.480 Yeah, and I didn't know. 645 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:34.639 I knew that they might come by for an interview 646 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.719 because we had him at a concert. This is when 647 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.679 I was in Nashville to headline our fireworks show that 648 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:42.880 we had downtown. We had a couple of those a year, 649 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.239 and we always had a big headliner well that in 650 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.039 Felix Cavalery. I got to sing on stage with Good 651 00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:52.480 Loving with Felix Cavalery at one of those shows. But yeah, yeah, 652 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:56.440 Randy Meisner and Jim Messina walk in. Jim Messina's got 653 00:35:56.440 --> 00:36:00.559 his acoustic guitar and they break into your mamadome dance 654 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.159 and then they did take it to the limit right 655 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.679 in front of me acoustic and Randy Meisner's hitting all 656 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:11.599 those notes. But yeah, you know, to be fortunate enough 657 00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.119 to have these opportunities, we're very, very lucky people, both 658 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:15.320 of us. 659 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.039 You bet, you bet. 660 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:17.800 There's no question. 661 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:19.880 Like we said right at the beginning of this, I mean, 662 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.559 we're doing what we always wanted to do. Not everybody 663 00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.639 gets to do well they always wanted to do in life, 664 00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:27.599 and you and I are doing that. 665 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.000 I wanted to ask you real quick before we get 666 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:30.639 to the Hall of Fame. 667 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.239 We're talking to Pat Saint John American History on the 668 00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.480 radio on the Night Camp on a Monday night on 669 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:41.880 seven hundred WLW. So, Pat, your kids, your grandkids, chasing Sienna, 670 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:47.079 we've we've kind of we've become very very obviously you 671 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.000 love them very much, but we've become very attached to 672 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.280 hearing them occasionally on your Saturday night request show or 673 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:57.800 occasionally on your afternoon show on Sirius XM. What do 674 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.440 they think about that as it become pass say for 675 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.320 them to go Grandpa needs us again? 676 00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:03.519 Yeah? 677 00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:10.119 Yeah, yeah, they you know, even even teenagers today, they 678 00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:12.639 don't know so much about radio, you know, which is 679 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:17.519 kind of sad. But you know, my kids, my grandkids there, 680 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.400 Sienna is six and Chase just turned ten, and Chase 681 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.400 has been on the radio with me since he was two, 682 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.719 since since as soon as we moved out here to 683 00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.960 San Diego. So they just kind of take it in stride. 684 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.320 They understand it because they'll hear me on the radio, 685 00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.400 and but they're they're cool with it. But I don't 686 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.639 think they have any aspirations that this this is what 687 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.960 they want to do. Well, they haven't figured that out yet, 688 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.280 but but yeah, they take it in stride, and you know, 689 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.000 and I say, hey, can we do something? And they're 690 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:50.480 always pretty good about it, you know. 691 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.719 Okay, all right, So the Radio Hall of Fame. 692 00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.119 A good friend of mine who does some segments with 693 00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.079 me on my Saturday morning show, we do a rock 694 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.039 and roll Archie out segment. 695 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.800 On a talk show on AM, which was kind of cool. 696 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.880 We get to play great portions of some great songs 697 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.719 and he tells the stories. His name is Jim Lebarbara. 698 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.400 They call him the Music Professor. He's in the Ohio 699 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:18.199 Broadcast Hall of Fame and among the top fifty top 700 00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.039 forty DJs of all time and one other survey. 701 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.679 But anyway, we do that and. 702 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.360 It's fun because I still because I started in music 703 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.039 radio and I still get to do the music DJ 704 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.559 part in that little segment. But all of the segues 705 00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:39.039 and the themes that you do so well that I 706 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.280 just marvel at. I mean, as a as a listener. 707 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:46.280 I'm also somebody in the business and I appreciate greatness. 708 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.119 And I hear that on a regular basis from Pat 709 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:53.199 Saint John and it's just you and back to and 710 00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:53.679 back to. 711 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.920 Nobody's going to pay to listen to radio. I thought 712 00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:58.639 the same thing. 713 00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.599 Everybody's going, well, you know, Gary, Jeff, they got satellites. 714 00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.280 Now there's all this competition. I said, nobody's gonna pay 715 00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.559 for freaking radio. What are you talking about? And here 716 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.239 I am doing it. So I mean, did you expect 717 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.760 the nod from the Radio Hall of Fame the induction? 718 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.360 Uh no, not really, you know, I was. I was 719 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:23.880 nominated last year and didn't get in, And when I 720 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.920 found out I was nominated, of course I was, you know, 721 00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:27.000 I was hoping for that. 722 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:27.639 I was sure. 723 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:29.599 I thought it was thought it was cool. When I 724 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:34.440 didn't get in, I sort of I was okay with that. 725 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.559 I thought, you know, I didn't do this to win 726 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.760 on I've never won an award ever, and I you know, 727 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.440 certainly didn't have that as a goal, So you know, 728 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:48.719 I was, I was actually fine with it. On the 729 00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:52.000 other hand, this year, when I was nominated again, that 730 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.360 was my attitude, all right, I mean, I get in again. 731 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:56.400 But then I did, and it was a nice surprise. 732 00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:59.920 I must say. I'm I'm happy about that. I wonder 733 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.440 if I'm I don't know, it's it's kind of I 734 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.360 don't know to think I'm going to be in that 735 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:11.400 Hall of Fame with you know, Dick Clark and Alan 736 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:15.440 Freed and Wolfman Jackets like, that's a that's a headshaker 737 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.920 to me, you know. Oh yeah, but I'm you know, 738 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.679 I'm I'm I'm happy about it. I can't lie. 739 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.280 No happy about it. 740 00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.800 And you're right, we don't, none of us, I don't 741 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:33.639 think get into the business to win awards or to 742 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:39.039 be lauded in some kind of you know radio mausoleum. 743 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.760 I mean, we don't think about it in those terms. 744 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.880 I got into radio because I was thrilled by the 745 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.239 magic of those voices coming through the airwaves at night. 746 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.599 Especially those those big voices and w ls. 747 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.800 You know, then they kind of had their condescending lilt, 748 00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.199 and that was kind of fun when you're a seven 749 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.320 eight year old kid to listen to these voices of God. 750 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:03.000 Talking down to people. 751 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:07.079 But but I got into it because number one, I 752 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:08.719 was so passionate about it. 753 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:10.039 It's all I wanted to do. 754 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.239 And number two, I figured I could make some make 755 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.400 enough money to live and meet some chicks. 756 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:16.360 And I did all of that. 757 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.920 Yeah right, right, Yeah, that was that was part of it. 758 00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:24.440 Yeah, sure, meet girls, man, come on, Oh. 759 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.840 Yeah, so true. Well, you know what, we're just we're 760 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.880 lucky to still be doing this. Yester all of these 761 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.639 years and to still have that passion, to still have 762 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.480 that drive, to still have that that uh, that excitement 763 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.280 that you're going to be going on the air. 764 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.719 People always people ask me, and I'm sure you get 765 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.400 to ask this, you know, well, I mean, are you 766 00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:48.960 ever gonna hang it up? And I go, why, I mean, 767 00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:51.719 unless I have to, unless they force me to. 768 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.360 No, I'm never gonna retire. 769 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.079 No, you know what, as long as we can do 770 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.400 this and feel like we're doing a good job, we're 771 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:01.440 going to keep on doing it. 772 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:02.079 I have no. 773 00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.480 Plans to retire at all. It'll I will be going 774 00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.159 as long as I can, and I know you will 775 00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.119 be too, and we can do future interviews, you know, 776 00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:12.320 ten twenty thirty years down the line. 777 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.320 Right exactly. I'll just have to make sure I don't 778 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.199 drop my teeth in the middle of the conversation. Pat 779 00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.519 Saint John, thank you so much for making my night man, 780 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:23.920 and I'll be listening to you. 781 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.719 Gary Jeff, thank you. I mean it an it's an 782 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:30.519 honor to be asked to do this, and it's great 783 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.960 to be on the air. And you'd be sure to 784 00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.440 if you've told them. Thank your management for allowing me. 785 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:37.239 To be on your show. 786 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.119 No, I don't tell him anything. 787 00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:39.440 Pat. 788 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.880 It's better better to ask forgiveness than permission. Believe me, 789 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:44.639 take care. 790 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.199 That's a great well. I enjoyed our conversation. 791 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.639 For sure, all right man, Thanks so much, Pat, Saint 792 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:53.159 John on the nightcap. I don't know if you enjoyed it, 793 00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.719 but I loved it as a fan. We'll continue in moments. 794 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:00.599 I'm seven hundred WL. 795 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:04.239 Scott's flowing here with a quick reminder for you. 796 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:06.440 If you missed part of my show, you can still 797 00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.400 listen to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app and hear 798 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:12.199 what you miss is. Heaven only knows why you missed 799 00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:14.119 part of my show, and I don't know. I suppose 800 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.199 there's legit reasons like fell to a coma, or you 801 00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:19.800 had to run to the store for emergency grapes, you 802 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:20.400 know whatever. 803 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.440 Just be sure to hit up my podcast and let 804 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:24.079 me know you care. 805 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:26.280 Just in time for the night New. 806 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.280 Year's Eve, the special Nightcap, the last nightcap of the year, 807 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.559 mind you, and it's our focus on American history on 808 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:35.679 the radio this past year. Another one of the interviews 809 00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:38.800 that I was fortunate enough to line up and have 810 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:42.039 on the ear was with a guy who's on serious ExM. 811 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:42.599 You'll hear that. 812 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.159 But he's also got a star on the Hollywood Walk 813 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.320 of Fame, not everybody had. 814 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.199 I don't have one of those. You have one of those, 815 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:51.960 Not that it matters. 816 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.639 Sure, he was releasing a new book this past year, 817 00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:01.400 which we talked about, and his career spans TV and 818 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:06.280 radio in southern California like nobody else. Maybe great voice, 819 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:10.119 one of those voices that inspire you to try and 820 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:15.159 sound like them, and you never do because you're not them. 821 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:20.400 Shotgun Tom Kelly joins us in the next segment, and 822 00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.559 for this hour, I really enjoyed doing that. I thought 823 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:26.440 it was one of the better interviews I've done with anybody. 824 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.320 You be the judge, but it's coming right up next 825 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.440 as we count you down for the last couple of 826 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:40.280 hours of twenty twenty four here on seven hundred WLWA. 827 00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:44.079 You got two types of people in America, hopeful, positive 828 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:47.599 Americans and negative elitist America hating butt wipes. 829 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:49.679 Why would anyone want to be a negative butt wipe? 830 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:51.800 They need to sit down and listen to Bill Cunningham 831 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:53.519 to cure them of their butt wipe ways. 832 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:58.079 The American Bill loves America. 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That's iheartadvertising 852 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:13.239 dot com. 853 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:21.639 The holidays are a blast, but the financial hate, I. 854 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:23.280 Said, Shotgun. 855 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.360 It's another episode of American history on the radio on 856 00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:34.320 the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW and tonight one of 857 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:39.280 the great voices and American radio history joins us. 858 00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:40.360 Another one of those. 859 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:44.880 I'd like to celebrate the people and the events and 860 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:49.159 the music that makes radios such as special media, and 861 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.360 we definitely have one of those to start the program 862 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:56.480 this evening. He has a star on the Hollywood Walk 863 00:46:56.519 --> 00:47:01.679 of Fame. He is a regular about this time at 864 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:08.480 night on sixties Gold on Sirius XM. Legendary disc jockey 865 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:11.159 Shotgun Tom Kelly joins us. 866 00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.079 Hello, Shotgun, how are you. 867 00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:18.559 Oh Gary, I'm doing great. I love being on seven 868 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:19.880 hundred WUL. 869 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:21.039 I love it. 870 00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:22.199 Oh. 871 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:26.239 I love hearing you say seven hundred w l W 872 00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:28.000 in your inivitable style. 873 00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:29.360 Thank you. 874 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.400 Hey. You know I got to tell you. I just 875 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.960 came from I get my nails done, and I'm a 876 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:38.480 very sanitary guy, and I was talking to my managurist 877 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:40.239 and there was a lady getting her hair done there 878 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:42.679 and she overheard me saying that I was going to 879 00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.719 be on w LW. She goes, no, No, that's seven 880 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:52.000 hundred WLW. Evidently she said she lived in Indianapolis and 881 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.159 she used to listen. That was the station that really 882 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.719 used to come in and that was her station. Man, 883 00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:57.320 how about that? 884 00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:58.599 Oh, it's a powerhouse. 885 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.920 I just can't believe that you're out in LA and 886 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:07.760 you're sitting next to a lady. And first, first and foremost, 887 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.159 I can't believe that you got your nails done for this. 888 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:11.320 Thank you so much. 889 00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:15.519 I really appreciate it to be listen, nothing's nothing but 890 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:16.199 the best for you. 891 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:16.920 Gary. 892 00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.360 You know you realize this as a radio all right, 893 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.960 So I shotgun Tom Kelly. 894 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:24.760 Uh. 895 00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.719 I want to again the voice and everybody can hear 896 00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.840 this incredible set of pipes. 897 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:32.639 You got on you man. 898 00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:33.360 Uh. 899 00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.639 And that was the first thing, the first thing that 900 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.199 we we recognize and hear about you, the first time 901 00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.519 we hear you. But I want to go back to 902 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.320 your roots. The book, the new book is all I 903 00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:50.199 want to do is play the hits and I'm looking 904 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.920 forward to reading it when I get a copy, and 905 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.480 I plan on getting a copy. 906 00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:55.679 So, but. 907 00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.440 I want to go back to four. 908 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.360 You were in radio and I'm sure you detail some 909 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:06.559 of these stories in the book, but let's wet the 910 00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:09.840 whistle of the audience a little bit here. What our 911 00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.559 beaks was some early Tom Kelly information. I will first 912 00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.440 tell you that I got bit with the radio bug 913 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.559 when I was about six or seven years old and 914 00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:24.239 got my first transmitter back in the transistor. Rather, I 915 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.719 didn't get my first transmitter until I was about in 916 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:28.599 the sixth grade, and I built one of those FM 917 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:30.000 transmitters that went about. 918 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:31.280 Two hundred and fifty feet. 919 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:36.960 But anyway, my first transistor is probably in they the 920 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.639 Winner of nineteen sixty seven, and we were living in 921 00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:42.920 suburban Chicago at the time, and I was listening to 922 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:48.840 all these great voices on eighty nine WLS and WCFL 923 00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.400 and Fred Winston, fred Winston and Larry lu Jack and 924 00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:57.000 then later John Landecker, who's still on the radio. I mean, 925 00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.079 it's it's a godsend to be on the radio all 926 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.960 these years later, when you know, people like me were 927 00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:06.000 kids and now we're the old timers. But so, where 928 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.519 did you first get bit with the radio bug? 929 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:09.239 Tom Kelly? 930 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.960 You know, that's very interesting, Garret, because that is exactly 931 00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.280 my story. You were a little younger than I was, 932 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.119 but my mother was a big radio fan, and she, 933 00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:23.719 you know I was. I was born and raised in 934 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.199 San Diego, California. What a great place. And I was 935 00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.880 ten years old. I came home from school. I went 936 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.760 to Saint johnaan Across Catholic School in Lemon Grove, and 937 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.559 my mom was listening to KOGO, which is an iHeart 938 00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:41.119 station and a big powerful station in San Diego. And 939 00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:43.199 so she was listening to a guy by the name 940 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.199 of Frank Thompson. He was on the air all mobile, 941 00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:51.360 you know, on remote in the Kogo mobile studios, and 942 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.440 so he was interviewing people. My mom heard that, and 943 00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:57.599 so she said, Tommy, there's a man on the radio, 944 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.679 his name is Frank Thompson on kog O, putting people 945 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:02.039 on the air. Why don't you get on your bike 946 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.320 and you ride down there. Maybe he'll put you on 947 00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.920 the air. So I didn't know if I wanted to 948 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.639 be and radio. We're not at ten years old, but 949 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:11.119 I wrote my bike down there, and I looked in 950 00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:14.360 the window. Gary, you can appreciate this. I looked in 951 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.760 the window and I saw two turntables and then microphone 952 00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:20.639 and he was talking into what. There was a speaker 953 00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:27.679 outside and I was absolutely mesmerized, and so I was 954 00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:30.880 looking at him and he says, well, this is Frank 955 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.719 Thompson on kog Oh, there's a young man looking through 956 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.880 the window here of the Kogo mobile studio. Come in here, 957 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.920 young man. What's your name? My name is Tom. What's 958 00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.199 good to go to? Tom? I go to Saint johnath 959 00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.280 Across Catholic School. Well, Tom, here's four tickets to see 960 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:48.239 the lat Birds when they come to Westgate Park. And 961 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.360 I went home. My mom heard me on the radio. 962 00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:56.159 What a thrill? And then I built my own little 963 00:51:56.239 --> 00:52:01.360 radio station. That was how it started, Gary La T Birds. 964 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.000 There's a throwback. There's a blast from the past. 965 00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:08.159 I remember the roller I remember the roller Derby too, baby. 966 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.320 Yeah, I was hoping you'd break that up. Remember that 967 00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:13.440 they used to pull each other's hair as they go. 968 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.599 Yeah, that's great. 969 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.639 Roller Derby was one of the first things I ever 970 00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:21.360 saw on a UHF TV station was Roller Derby and 971 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:25.079 the La T Birds were playing Chicago. I forget even 972 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.400 what the Chicago's team was, but they were playing at 973 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:31.440 the roller rink in Hammond, Indiana, and I was just 974 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.519 a little kid about the same time I was getting 975 00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:34.519 interested in radio. 976 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:40.119 So you had those early sparks. 977 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:44.000 Were there any other guys that you listened to on 978 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:45.800 the radio when you were young that you kind of 979 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:48.400 emulated and you wanted to be like Tom? 980 00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.519 Yeah? Well, first of all, I followed Frank Thompson around. 981 00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.440 He was the guy that would he was most most 982 00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:57.760 accessible because he'd be in that cogo mobile unity and 983 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.519 that was easy to get into, as you know, you 984 00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:02.679 just kept a little kid, just kept walk into a 985 00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:07.280 radio station. Especially. He worked for a AMFM TV facility 986 00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.679 they called Broadcast City, and it was owned by time 987 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.119 Life Broadcast at that time, very class the organization. So 988 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.280 the only access I had was him and that trailer, 989 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:21.239 And so I followed him around, and of course he 990 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.960 had this great voice, and I kind of imitated him 991 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.039 when I did my little my little radio station in 992 00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.239 my bedroom. Yeah, and I always wanted to be like 993 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.639 Frank Thompson, you know. And by the way, Frank Thompson 994 00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:36.760 was a Canadian I found out, and he was educated 995 00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.199 at Long Greens Radio School Lauren Green before he got 996 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:43.920 did the dance, but Anson he was he had a 997 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:45.239 radio school. Did you know that? 998 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.280 Oh yeah, Yeah, And when you can hear that and 999 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.800 you want to talk about fantastic voices. 1000 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.360 Lord Green was just amazing. 1001 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:54.920 You know. 1002 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:56.320 The song Ringo just. 1003 00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.719 It all, just one of my favorites. 1004 00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:01.440 It tells you every thing you need to know about 1005 00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:03.639 the vocal talents of one Lauren Greed. 1006 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:06.880 And you want to say, what that guy am for breakfast? 1007 00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:08.440 No question? 1008 00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:13.480 But anyway, Yeah, so Frank Thompson I admired. He became 1009 00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:15.320 a friend and then a friend of the family. Later 1010 00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:17.679 on Frank got out of the disc jockey thing and 1011 00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:21.079 he worked in Seattle at kJ R and Seattle It, 1012 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.760 became a news director and so he was a news guy, 1013 00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:28.559 you know when I at the end of his life, 1014 00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:31.639 but he was very respected up there. So you asked 1015 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:33.159 some of the other people that I used to listen 1016 00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:36.960 to in San Diego. Yeah, I used to love my 1017 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.679 favorite disc jockey, and now now I wanted to go 1018 00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:44.039 any radio station that I could look at. And there 1019 00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.119 was a station at seventh and ash k c b Q, 1020 00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:51.960 which I eventually got a job at later on, and 1021 00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.159 you could watch the disc jockey's on the air on 1022 00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:59.880 the second floor. So I used to love to watch, 1023 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:04.559 uh Seamus Patrick O'Hara. And then of course there. 1024 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:05.800 Was this who Jackson. 1025 00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:07.079 He wasn't Irish, was he? 1026 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.039 Uh? He may have been, but he was a He 1027 00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.320 was a great jock. And of course Happy Hair in 1028 00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:18.480 the morning. I think Happy Hair worked in Cleveland at 1029 00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:21.920 one time about that Uh did a morning show. Anyway, 1030 00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.639 there was There was so many disc jockeys on that 1031 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:28.599 station that I admired. And of course I can actually 1032 00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:31.679 see them. To go down at seventh and Ash look 1033 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.360 up there in the second floor and watch them do 1034 00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.760 their show. Now, this is interesting. Uh. They had there's 1035 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:41.000 the They had a mirror on the ceiling so you 1036 00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:44.599 can see the disc jockey turn the dobs. It looked 1037 00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.239 like I was looking at a spaceship. That board was 1038 00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:50.320 so incredible, you know what I'm talking about. And I 1039 00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:53.639 always had the Neil Ross, who's a good friend of mine. 1040 00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:57.079 He he co wrote my book as a matter of fact. Uh, 1041 00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.719 and him and I would would be at seventh and 1042 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.400 Aunt watching these guys and we'd say to each other, God, 1043 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:05.639 we'd love to be able to work that board. And 1044 00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:09.760 eventually Neil Ross and myself in our adult life, got 1045 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:12.880 hired at Casey BQ and we got to run the 1046 00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.760 same board Gary, and I mean, what a what a 1047 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.440 throw that is. And by the way, the picture uh 1048 00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:23.800 uh uh. There's a story the lady, and this is 1049 00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:27.679 in my book. The lady. Her name is Phyllis. She 1050 00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:29.719 was in choice. She was a receptionist, but more than 1051 00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:34.639 a receptionist, she was a security guard. So anyway, I 1052 00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:37.639 would go up there and said, uh, ma'am, my name 1053 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.079 is Tom and I'm doing a report in school and 1054 00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:43.079 I can't get a good picture of the disc jockey 1055 00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:44.960 on the air. Is there any way on getting the 1056 00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:48.159 studio just for a moment to take the picture? She goes, no, Son, 1057 00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:50.320 if you want your picture, you have to take it 1058 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:53.280 from the street. Well, I was a little forlorn, and 1059 00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.599 then I saw this guy coming up and I noticed 1060 00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.199 it was Scotty Day. He was the midday guy. But 1061 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:03.360 what I can't but I didn't realize he was the boss. 1062 00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:07.239 He was the program director of Casey BQ. So I 1063 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.159 told him the story. He said, you're doing a report, 1064 00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:13.800 said well, follow me. So we went up there and 1065 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:18.920 Phyllis was sitting at the desk and Scotty Days said, Phillis, 1066 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:21.519 I'm going to take this young man into the studio 1067 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:24.760 and you should have seen the look on her face. 1068 00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:29.559 She was there's the most angry look I've ever seen 1069 00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.559 on a woman in my life. It was almost scary. 1070 00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:36.440 Who well, anyway, yeah, So I got into the studio 1071 00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.480 and I had my little brownie camera. It was filled 1072 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:43.719 with slide film and I had, you know, a flash 1073 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:46.679 cube and all that stuff. So I only had one 1074 00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.639 shot left. And so I got back and the guy 1075 00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.559 on the air was Bill Bishop, who became the voice 1076 00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:56.920 of Judge Judy later on, but he was on the 1077 00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.760 airs of disc Jockey. And I went back and I 1078 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:04.039 took that picture of that incredible control board and Bill Bishop, 1079 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.760 and I had that picture in my pool hall blown 1080 00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:11.639 up thirty by thirty. I mean, you get asked Art Volo, 1081 00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.840 you know America's best radio friend. Yeah, and he'll tell 1082 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.360 you about that. And that picture is in the book, 1083 00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.400 taken when I was twelve years old. And also there 1084 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.199 was another picture of me at that board, taken when 1085 00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.920 I was an adult. Worton at KCBQ. 1086 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.880 How did you piece together your own little radio station, 1087 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:33.320 your little home radio station. 1088 00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:34.320 How'd that come about? 1089 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:38.320 Oh? Well, you know, listen to this, Gary, this is 1090 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.360 very interesting. I wanted to be on the air. I 1091 00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:44.800 wanted people to hear me. So I had speaker extensions 1092 00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:47.119 out into the patio my mom and dad, and they 1093 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.119 were listening to me, and that was cool, but I 1094 00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.239 wanted to do something better. So my friend Tom Brown, 1095 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.400 this is in the book, by the way, all I 1096 00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:58.960 want to do is play the hits available on Amazon 1097 00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:05.199 Aaron Barnes and Noble. I wanted a string speaker wire 1098 00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:08.639 from my bedroom to my friend across the street, Tom Brown, 1099 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:12.840 And so I did. I went over the telephone pole. 1100 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:14.519 I mean I didn't climb up there. I threw it 1101 00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:17.400 up there and I got into his He had a radio, 1102 00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:22.280 a clock radio, and I saw these the speaker, and 1103 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:26.079 I just tapped, just hooked the wires up to the speaker, 1104 00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.159 and my bedroom looked like it was coming out of 1105 00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:33.119 a rail radio but the radio was off. So anyway, 1106 00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:37.840 I had one listener, and so I was broadcasting from 1107 00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:42.760 my bedroom to Tom's bedroom. And one night I decided, 1108 00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.119 and by the way, I put the switch on there. 1109 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:46.880 So when he wanted to listen to real radio, when 1110 00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:49.559 you do that, so one night I wanted to do 1111 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.960 an all night show. So he was at summer camp, 1112 00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:58.280 and he forgot to, you know, flick the switch off. 1113 00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:05.079 And at midnight little shotgun Tom Tom Irwin at that time, 1114 01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.519 no ladies and gentlemen, the greatest shits onors, you know. 1115 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:12.639 And so anyway, I woke his entire family up. His 1116 01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.400 dad came on and tried to turn off the knob. 1117 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:18.239 It wouldn't go off, and he tried to unplug the radio. 1118 01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:20.599 Still wouldn't go off. So he picked up the radio 1119 01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:25.079 and it broke the connection. Well is that a weird story, 1120 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:29.639 but it's in the book. And so I got frustrated 1121 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:32.920 with that idea. And you mentioned something, Gary, You said 1122 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:35.079 that you had a transmitter. 1123 01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.480 Yeah, we built a little I was in this program 1124 01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:41.960 at the end of sixth grade. It was for kids. 1125 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.559 It was actually summer school that we wanted to go 1126 01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:48.199 to because we had special interests and we had good 1127 01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:50.159 enough grades that they let us go to this six 1128 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.559 week summer school and one of them was a radio class, 1129 01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:56.639 and they gave us all of the components to build 1130 01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.719 a little FM transmitter. It broadcast about two hundred and 1131 01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.280 fifty and I was doing my own little broadcast and 1132 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.559 it was fun soldering it together and putting it together. 1133 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.760 But anyway, what we're going to say, Tom. 1134 01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:12.800 Oh, Well, what I was going to say is I 1135 01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.320 had a friend of mine who said he had a 1136 01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:18.760 transmitter that he was going to sell me for five bucks. 1137 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.400 So he built the transmitter on a cigar box. And 1138 01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.679 this guy, Wes Owen is his name. He was very, 1139 01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:29.639 very smart, and he still is to this day. But anyway, 1140 01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:33.559 Wes knew everything about electronics. So he built this transmitter 1141 01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:37.000 that broadcast on eight p forty on the AM dial 1142 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.800 and sold it to me for five bucks, set out 1143 01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.519 of power supply, and I brought it into my room 1144 01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:46.360 and now I'm actually on the air, Gary on the 1145 01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:51.400 air at eight forty am. And so my mom and 1146 01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.599 dad would come in and say, look at our son. 1147 01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.079 He's staying out of trouble. He's not the stealing stuff 1148 01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.280 out of stores. He's got this wonderful hobby. Well what 1149 01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.360 they didn't realize, Gary, is I wasn't committing local crime. 1150 01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:06.880 I was committing federal. 1151 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:11.440 Five I will stop right there. We'll stop right there, shotgun, 1152 01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.280 Tom Kelly. All I want to do is play the 1153 01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:16.239 hits as the book, and we'll be back with part 1154 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.199 two of the interview on American history. On the radio, 1155 01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:25.159 actually on the radio on seven hundred WLW. 1156 01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:32.000 News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 1157 01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:35.480 Now two and a half hours away from twenty twenty five. 1158 01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:42.480 What the ten thirty re parts, I'm Ley Mawin breaking Now. 1159 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.159 What you hear is the New Year's celebration in Paris, France. 1160 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:48.559 Here in the eastern part of the United States, we're 1161 01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:51.760 counting down the time until twenty twenty five begins with 1162 01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:54.639 a new year that means new construction projects across the 1163 01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:57.920 Tri State o Dotts Kathleen follow shared that the Norwood 1164 01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:02.119 Lateral project would be completely finished by June twenty twenty five, 1165 01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:06.400 with reservicing and rehabilitation still needed on the tiny stretch 1166 01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.159 between Paddock Road that's State Route four and I seventy five. 1167 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:14.159 Reconfiguration of the I seventy five southbound ramp to westbound 1168 01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:14.920 I seventy. 1169 01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:17.119 Four needs finishing touches like resurfacing. 1170 01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:19.920 The big one is Phase eight of the Mill Creek 1171 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.639 Expressway project, which is replacing three railroad bridges and the 1172 01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.719 tracks over I seventy five, State Round five sixty two 1173 01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.360 and Prosser Avenue. The big back bridge work is scheduled 1174 01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:32.440 to finish mid March, depending on the delivery of the 1175 01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:35.559 steel girders from Bowling Green, Kentucky. With design work on 1176 01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:38.599 the Brent Spence Bridge project still being worked on. That's 1177 01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:41.800 the only project. Fuller couldn't confirm if work would start 1178 01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:45.280 in the new year. Now the latest traffic and whether 1179 01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:48.199 together we have a crash on US Route fifty East 1180 01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:52.039 at Chambers. This is towards the Ohio Indiana state line, 1181 01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.519 inside the two seventy five loop. It is still open, 1182 01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:58.760 but you are going to expect some lane closures as 1183 01:03:58.800 --> 01:03:59.320 you approach. 1184 01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:03.360 The lates forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling Weather 1185 01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:07.440 Center on News Radio seven hundred WLW. 1186 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:09.239 Much colder temperatures on the way overnight as we usher 1187 01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.000 in twenty twenty five, rain and snow dwindling into early 1188 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:15.440 parts of Wednesday morning, with a few flurries out the 1189 01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:18.119 door on Wednesday. We may see a wintry mixed at 1190 01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:20.519 times throughout the day on Wednesday or New Year's Day, 1191 01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.400 but it will be a little bit above freezing and 1192 01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:26.079 thirty seven degrees and mostly cloudy skies, getting chilly overnight 1193 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:28.559 into Thursday down into the mid twenties and will continue 1194 01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:30.920 the cold spell into the weekend with snow chances Thursday 1195 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.079 to Friday. From your severe Weather station, I'm nine first 1196 01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:36.559 Warning Media rollind Just Brandon Spinner News Radio seven hundred WLW. 1197 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:39.199 Still plenty of rain to go around south west Ohio 1198 01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:41.800 and northern Kentucky. Some of it is snow in the 1199 01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:45.199 northmost part of Butler County. In the southern Preble County 1200 01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.280 and mcgoverery County. Scenes of snow and around Dayton heading 1201 01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:52.199 to western Green County, Bellbrook, Beaver Creek, Fairbarn that area. 1202 01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:55.159 Right now, it's thirty nine degrees with light rain falling 1203 01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.840 in the two seventy five Loop. Puerto Rico's Governor Pedro 1204 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:02.480 Pierre Lucy receiving a call from President Joe Biden today 1205 01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:06.119 on the massive power outage affecting nearly the entire island. 1206 01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:09.239 With more is ABC's Victor Oquendo. 1207 01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.000 Nearly all of Puerto Rico ringing in the new year 1208 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:15.159 in the dark, an island wide blackout affecting more than 1209 01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:18.760 a million customers. Power outages have become common, with a 1210 01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:22.400 blackout like this is rare. Lumah Energy, the private company 1211 01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:26.239 that handles transmission and distribution of electricity, saying they're working 1212 01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:28.679 to restore power quickly and getting the medical center in 1213 01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:31.400 San Juan's Hospital back online within hours. 1214 01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.800 Earlier here on news radio seven hundred WOW in the week, 1215 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:38.159 you heard about the nearly one million chickens depopulated somewhere 1216 01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.559 in Dark County. Now, the Ohio Department of Natural Resources 1217 01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:45.480 Division of Wildlife suspects dead wild birds across nine Ohio 1218 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.760 counties might test positive for the bird flu One of 1219 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:52.679 those nine is Warren County. Several dead Canadian geese trumpeter 1220 01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:56.639 Swan's and one mallard being tested with the ODNR presuming 1221 01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:01.440 they will test positive for highly pathogenic avian influenza three O. 1222 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:05.360 Our nearby counties with these birds include Auglace County, Mercer County, 1223 01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:09.400 and Montgomery County, all northrom the Miami Valley, Ohioan's Covery Port. 1224 01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:12.159 Sick or dead wild birds suspected of having the bird 1225 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.559 flew to eight hundred ninety four five thirty five forty three, 1226 01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.639 or visit Wildohio dot gov. Our next update is at 1227 01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:23.239 eleven i'mleymowin news Radio seven hundred WLW. 1228 01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:27.079 Less than ninety minutes until the ball drops or the 1229 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.880 walleye drops in Port Clinton or whatever you've got in 1230 01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:34.119 your specific area. We beam out at night. It signifies 1231 01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:38.679 the changing of the guards. A new year, Happy new year. 1232 01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.000 Gary Jeff Walker with you on seven hundred WLW, continuing 1233 01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:47.199 my conversation with the great superstar, Hollywood Walker, star, author 1234 01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:51.639 and radio legend Shotgun Tom Kelly. 1235 01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:52.960 Here's part two. 1236 01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:57.199 They lie in boothills, all for the West, the outlaws, 1237 01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.239 the gunslingers, the bit of the kids, and wise say 1238 01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.320 a fellow like the cow that shot Bill Hiccock in 1239 01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:04.960 the back. There's always one like that, and every time 1240 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:09.039 of history. Sure most of them were vomits, but every 1241 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.800 once in a while and one of them I may 1242 01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:12.920 have lived a man. 1243 01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:20.679 We talked about Louren Green and Ringo in our first segment. 1244 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:25.119 We're talking with Shotgun Tom Kelly, who has the same 1245 01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:28.320 kind of voice as Lauren Green did. Why God, He's 1246 01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:32.840 a monster American history on the radio. Shotgun Tom is 1247 01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:37.079 our guest for the rest of this hour, and we're back. 1248 01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:42.000 I wanted to ask you, Tom about your dad because 1249 01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:44.400 in Tom's new book, all I want to do is 1250 01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.239 play the hits out now on Amazon and anywhere you 1251 01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.880 buy books about his career in his life. You talk 1252 01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:54.559 a lot about your dad, who was a train engineer 1253 01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:57.159 back in the day, and there's stories in the book 1254 01:07:57.599 --> 01:07:59.480 like the one you're gonna kind of share with us. 1255 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:00.880 Now, tell me about your dad. 1256 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:05.400 Yeah, dad was a locomotive train engineer for the Santa 1257 01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:09.360 Fe in San Diego. And I remember Dad came home 1258 01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.280 and he said, this actor they had a film crew 1259 01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.719 there and they wanted Now this is later on in 1260 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:21.720 the in the late fifties, and this actor, Dad had 1261 01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:24.479 to get on his knees and bring the F seven, 1262 01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:28.479 which is the war bonnet, the red war Bonnet, a 1263 01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:32.239 beautiful engine into San Diego. And so the film crew 1264 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:35.359 from the television station was filming that had this guy 1265 01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:39.319 get off. He was portrayed as an engineer, so he 1266 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:42.119 got he was an actor, but he got off the 1267 01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:44.760 F seven Santa Fe engine and walked into the depot 1268 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:48.000 and then they cut and turns out he was my 1269 01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:52.159 favorite children's show host. His name was Johnny Downs. He 1270 01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:55.880 used to be Johnny of Our Gang, and so for 1271 01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:58.920 years as a kid, I used to watch him on 1272 01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.880 the air and I used to say, Hey, my dad 1273 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:06.079 is Johnny Downs's engineer. He portrayed an engineer. See, so 1274 01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:11.319 just like engineer Bill in La. But yeah, my dad 1275 01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:13.920 told me that story, and he told me another story. 1276 01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:18.960 He got the nod to be the engineer on the 1277 01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:22.479 presidential train to bring the President of the United States 1278 01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:26.479 into San Diego, picked him up in Los Angeles, came 1279 01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:31.760 to San Diego, and then my dad hates crowds. He 1280 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:34.119 looked out one side of the engine and there were 1281 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:37.600 thousands of people waiting to hear the president and see him. 1282 01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:40.960 He looked out the other side and there was nobody Gary, 1283 01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:44.439 nobody there. So this was my dad's job, was done 1284 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:47.239 his This is his opportunity to get out of there. 1285 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:49.760 He grabbed his grip, he got off the engine, and 1286 01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:52.039 he was making his way to his car as fast 1287 01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:56.720 as possible, and this guy stopped him. He said, I've 1288 01:09:56.720 --> 01:10:00.760 been with these fobs all day. You're the engineer, aren't you. 1289 01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:05.079 And my dad said, yes, mister President, I am. It 1290 01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:09.119 was Harry Truman. Wow in nineteen forty eight. Yeah, So anyway, 1291 01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:11.680 my dad walked about one hundred yards with Harry and 1292 01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.880 then the Secret Service got ahold of him. He bitted 1293 01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:18.199 my dad goodbye, and then he spoke to the people. 1294 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:21.680 But you know, my dad told that story and it 1295 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:23.880 was one of his favorites. And I said, I'd love 1296 01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:27.039 to meet a president someday. So my congressman got me 1297 01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:29.960 the job of doing the MC job for a president 1298 01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.399 who came to San Diego. And I did. And so 1299 01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.359 he says, I have an idea. Why don't you you 1300 01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:37.880 know your trademark ranger at You don't have a smoke 1301 01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:40.600 of the bear hat that I wear because I did 1302 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:44.920 children's television for seventeen years locally here in San Diego 1303 01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:48.920 and on my syndicated show Words of Poppin' was syndicated 1304 01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:51.840 around the country and I won two Emmys for that show. 1305 01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:55.880 But anyway, the hat is a traditional thing that I've 1306 01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.439 had in my career, and so I wanted to meet 1307 01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:03.960 a president. So anyway, Duncan Hunter, my congressman made it happen. 1308 01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.000 I went to the White House and this is all 1309 01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:10.920 in the book. It's a deeper story in the book. 1310 01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:17.000 But anyway, we're waiting outside the Oval office. Gary White 1311 01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:21.319 House staff member comes in to tell us and by 1312 01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:24.880 the way, that hallway outside the Oval, it's not that big. Anyway, 1313 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.960 he said, Duncan shotgun the president is better to see you. 1314 01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:30.920 So we go in the Oval office. The president is 1315 01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:34.399 behind the resolute desk. He gets up from the resolute 1316 01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:38.039 desk and he walks over to the shell bookcase. Well, Gary, 1317 01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:44.359 he knows my name. He said, well, Shotgun, I understand 1318 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:47.279 that you were the MC and kept the people entertained 1319 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:50.479 why they're waiting for me in San Diego. And I said, yes, 1320 01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:53.720 mister President, I did. And I bring you my trademark 1321 01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:56.279 ranger hat, and I hope you'll put it on. And 1322 01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:59.079 he goes, well, he put it on. It was President 1323 01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:01.079 Ronald Reagan left in the book. 1324 01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:04.359 That's a great Reagan impression. You do that really? Well? 1325 01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:11.039 Uh, oh, well, a little way. Michael Reagan. Michael Reagan, 1326 01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.159 his son is friend of mine. And when you get 1327 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:15.880 a copy, you get a stamp. It's not really the 1328 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.920 president's signature. But in the book if you look, uh 1329 01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:20.600 in the book, all I want to do is play 1330 01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:24.079 the hits available on Amazon and Barnesanoble dot com. 1331 01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:24.920 Uh. 1332 01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:28.439 If you go in there, you will see, uh, the 1333 01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:33.640 president's signature. Michael Reagan went to his dad in Santa 1334 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:38.039 Barbara and actually had him sign that's actually his signature, 1335 01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:40.560 and it's not a stamp. I value that. 1336 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:41.520 That's phenomenal. 1337 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:45.439 Because of your dad's involvement with trains, You've had a 1338 01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:47.960 continuing lifelong love of trains, haven't you. 1339 01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:52.159 Tom Oh. Absolutely. But the problem is when I was 1340 01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:54.800 a kid, I was I came home from the train 1341 01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:57.600 store and I said, Dad, I'd like to have a 1342 01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:00.520 train set, and he goes nothing doing son, I worked 1343 01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:02.600 sixteen hours a day. I don't want to see them 1344 01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:09.600 when I come home. So anyway, and so maybe now 1345 01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:14.119 as an adult, I had somebody else build my train 1346 01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:18.760 layout twenty five thousand dollars Lloyd's Layouts of Los Angeles. 1347 01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:21.920 They do a marvelous job. And I've got a downtown 1348 01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:25.800 area residential area. I've got four industrial areas plus a 1349 01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:30.279 yard and the hero in the downtown area. I've always 1350 01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:33.239 wanted this because I've never seen another train layout with 1351 01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:38.680 an AM FMTV station right downtown. And I had a tower, yeah, 1352 01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:42.640 tower for the big tower, you know, not the one 1353 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:47.760 like WLWS, which is a standing tower, but it's a 1354 01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:51.279 tower on my layout, and yeah, I have lots of 1355 01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:53.920 fun with it. And if any of your listeners are 1356 01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:58.520 ever in San Diego, I'm going to run trains every 1357 01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:04.119 Wednesday from one to four and they can come out 1358 01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:07.359 to the San Diego Model Railroad Museum very near the 1359 01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:10.000 world famous San Diego Zoo, and they could see me 1360 01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:12.600 run trains and I get to visit with them. On 1361 01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.359 my show on Sirius XM sixties old Channel seventy three, 1362 01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:19.199 I've mentioned that and I've had lots of people come out. 1363 01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:19.840 It's amazing. 1364 01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:21.039 I bet you have. 1365 01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:26.359 What was your first radio job, Tom, very first. 1366 01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.000 First radio Yeah, the very first one. I was sixteen 1367 01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.600 years old. I was hanging around a radio station in 1368 01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:36.000 the week and then the weekend guy was the program 1369 01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:39.239 director of this FM station now Gary. As you know, 1370 01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:44.840 FM back in nineteen sixty six was like a background 1371 01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:48.159 music thing. AM was the big deal, and if you 1372 01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:50.039 want to really wanted to be on a big station, 1373 01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:53.119 you had to be on an AM station like KCBQ, 1374 01:14:53.680 --> 01:15:00.840 like KGB, like will W You know I love those 1375 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.880 call letters man. Anyway, So I got a job at 1376 01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:08.199 an FM station on the weekends on Sunday because nobody 1377 01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:12.880 wanted Nobody wants to work Sunday. So George Manning, who 1378 01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:16.439 was working weekends at radio station KDO, where I made 1379 01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:20.359 my little tapes for my bootleg station Anyway, he said, 1380 01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:24.159 how would you like to do Sunday Morning at kPr. I. 1381 01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:26.479 I said I'd love that. So I was sixteen years 1382 01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:28.840 old and I got my first job on the air 1383 01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:35.399 Sunday morning playing jazz Frank Sinatra, Sergio Mandez and Brazil 1384 01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:38.560 sixty six. That's how I remember. It was sixty six, 1385 01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.319 and then of course we stopped down at eight o'clock. 1386 01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:46.760 I did a children's radio show, which remember I've always 1387 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:50.399 wanted to be a children's show oh sometime in my career, 1388 01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:53.880 and I got that because I was I did Words 1389 01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:56.840 of Poppin', which is a word game show for kids. 1390 01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:00.359 McGraw hill owned that the show and I went for 1391 01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:03.520 five years. And then I did the KUSI Kids Club 1392 01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:06.359 with the cartoons and everything for about twelve years here 1393 01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:11.359 in San Diego. So that was my first kid show 1394 01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:13.520 on radio, and it was when I was sixteen. 1395 01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:17.680 So what made you so interested in doing children's programming? 1396 01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:23.039 Well, you've got to realize we all have heroes. Frank 1397 01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:26.720 Thompson was my radio hero, and Johnny downs was my 1398 01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:31.680 television hero because my dad was Johnny Downes's engineer on 1399 01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:32.119 that show. 1400 01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:34.159 Oh wow, and. 1401 01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.079 He was so good. He was so great. Johnny Downs was, 1402 01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:41.239 and I talk about him in the book because Johnny 1403 01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:43.159 and I were both in for an audition for this 1404 01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:47.640 Words of Poppin' show. And I walk in and I said, Johnny, 1405 01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:50.319 are you here to audition? He said, yes, I am. 1406 01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:52.039 I said, well, listen, I'm going to get out of here. 1407 01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:53.800 You're going to do Words of Pop and I'm going 1408 01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:56.880 to watch every Saturday. He said, you have just as 1409 01:16:56.960 --> 01:17:00.880 much right to audition as I do. So he gave 1410 01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:03.640 me a cup of coffee out of his thermous and 1411 01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:06.640 he walked in, did his audition, and he came back 1412 01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:10.840 out and he says, Shotgun, congratulations. I hope you do 1413 01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:13.520 your best. So I went in and did my audition 1414 01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:17.720 for Words of Poppin' and then I left. And I 1415 01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:19.760 knew Johnny was going to get the job. I just 1416 01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:22.960 knew it because he had the experience. And so I 1417 01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:27.880 didn't hear from the people for weeks. All of a sudden, 1418 01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:29.760 I got a phone call from the producer. You got 1419 01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:31.279 the job. I said, wait a minute, you got the 1420 01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:35.079 wrong guy, Johnny Downs. You need to hire him. He said, no, 1421 01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:39.720 you related more to the kids than Johnny did. And 1422 01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:43.760 so I did that show for five years, and that 1423 01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:46.600 story is also in the book What. 1424 01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:53.199 A Feather in Your Cap To actually supersede your childhood 1425 01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:59.319 television host hero and take a child that's incredible, Tom. 1426 01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:01.600 Well, that's happened again, because you know what, I got 1427 01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:04.359 the job at k Earth one O one in Los Angeles. 1428 01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:07.920 The real Don Steele. We all remember there. The real 1429 01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:10.920 Don Steele's voice is used in the movie Once upon 1430 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:14.159 a Time in Hollywood. I'm Burial dolds Field. Right, you 1431 01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:16.439 know when when Brad Pitt gets in the car and 1432 01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:19.279 he turns on the ignition, that's the ninety three k 1433 01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:21.760 h J. I'm Burial dolds Field. Here we go. 1434 01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:24.479 You know that that's his voice. 1435 01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:28.119 That's so anyway, when he passed away, and he was 1436 01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:32.159 one of my radio heroes. I loved the real Don 1437 01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:37.039 Steele and Wolfman Jack. I became friends with Wolfman Jack, 1438 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:40.119 but I only met the real Don Steele three. How 1439 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:40.600 was that? 1440 01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:43.279 Yeah, when he passed away? Go ahead, I'm sorry. 1441 01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:49.319 Well, when he passed away, Frank, they had the memorial 1442 01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:54.079 and Mike Phillips, the program director, was looking for somebody 1443 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:58.159 to succeed the real Don Steele. He told me this, 1444 01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:01.000 He said, he closed the door of his office and 1445 01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:04.640 he said a prayer and he said, God, please help 1446 01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:07.439 me find the right guy. And there was a whisper 1447 01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:08.600 that came into his mine. 1448 01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:11.239 Shot done dumb. 1449 01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:15.560 And he called me and he hired me, and I 1450 01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:16.880 was there for twenty years. 1451 01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:21.039 That's amazing now, and you talk about what a couple 1452 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.279 of great radio legends to have, as you know, as 1453 01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:27.960 friends and successors or whatever you succeed them, the real 1454 01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:29.760 Don Steele and Wolfman Jack. 1455 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:32.880 What was Robert like in person? 1456 01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.199 Robert was a good friend mine before I came to 1457 01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:38.920 ca Earth. He was We used to watch sixty minutes, 1458 01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:41.640 and we after the sixty minutes, we always used to, 1459 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:46.119 you know, talk about it after the show. I was 1460 01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:49.239 so anyway, I guess I was out after sixty minutes 1461 01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:51.600 one time and he called my house and my wife 1462 01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:54.199 Linda entered the phone. She said hello, and he says, 1463 01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:57.239 they oh thiss r W. Margan is shotgun there? No, 1464 01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:03.039 he's not well, tell him. Rob called and she said, okay, Bob, No, no, 1465 01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:06.319 Bob lives here. He hated to be called Bob. It 1466 01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:10.600 was always Robert W. Morgan. But anyway, No, he was 1467 01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:11.640 a he was a good guy. 1468 01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:12.479 He was. 1469 01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:18.439 He was firm, he was eccentric. H he but but 1470 01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:21.560 to me he was a good guy. But some people 1471 01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:24.760 aggravated him and and I guess he. 1472 01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:27.720 Got a wrest Well, when I said Robert, I meant 1473 01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.399 wolfman Jack because his real name was first name was 1474 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:32.880 Robert Smith, Bob Smith. 1475 01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:35.199 Yeah, oh yeah, but that's also in the book. 1476 01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:35.840 Uh. 1477 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.399 By the way, my book has got happiness, but it's 1478 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:42.279 got ups and downs. Sure, there's some things in my 1479 01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:46.479 life that happened that I'm not too proud of. And 1480 01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:50.399 uh uh my house got raided by the police. That's 1481 01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:53.560 in the book. Uh. And it was because I did 1482 01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:56.399 these tonight shows. I built a tonight show said wait 1483 01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:01.359 before Kramer in my garage and very professionally done, had 1484 01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:04.840 a crew, and I had the Sheriff of San Diego 1485 01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:07.960 County the chief of police, and I played Ed McMahon 1486 01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:12.000 and so we did this show and it was a 1487 01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:15.680 cult favorite of both departments after seven years. There were 1488 01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:19.520 some murders that happened here in San Diego of prostitutes, 1489 01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:23.239 and so they thought the police was going to, you know, 1490 01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:28.640 defend their officers. They thought an officer killed this prostitute. 1491 01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:32.720 So they took it away from the local police department 1492 01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:36.119 and the state Attorney General formed a homicide task force 1493 01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:39.760 and they raided my house. Gary and in the front. Now, 1494 01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:42.760 I was doing the kids show over at TUSI at yeah, 1495 01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:44.920 and the front. You know, I've always wanted to be 1496 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.279 on the front page of the paper, above the fold. 1497 01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:51.720 The headline was seven hundred and fifty tapes seized in 1498 01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:57.079 murdered probe. Anyway, a lot of the reporters were coming out. 1499 01:21:56.920 --> 01:22:02.159 And you know, yeah, hey, by the way, yeah, anyway, 1500 01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:06.800 they Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Rogers said that he one 1501 01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:08.800 of the dead prostitutes was on the. 1502 01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:11.000 Show, and that was a lie. So that's why they 1503 01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:15.000 rated the house. We got. 1504 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:18.920 We have two minutes, Tom, right around two minutes, and 1505 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:21.119 I want to hear about the Hollywood the Star and. 1506 01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:24.359 The Hollywood Walk of Fame. Shotgun Tom Kelly has a star. 1507 01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:31.159 And radio people don't don't get radio people don't get stars. 1508 01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:34.840 No, they don't like giving them to radio field. But 1509 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:40.039 I had to wait for mine. But you know, Robert W. 1510 01:22:40.119 --> 01:22:43.520 Morgan had a star, the real Don Steele had a star. 1511 01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:46.760 So k Earth was really the radio station of the 1512 01:22:46.840 --> 01:22:52.239 rock stars for disc jockeys. So anyway, I got rejected 1513 01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:54.119 the first year, the second year, but then the third 1514 01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:57.319 year I got my star and I asked Stevie Wonder 1515 01:22:57.359 --> 01:22:59.680 to be my speaker, and he was there along with 1516 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:05.039 Art Levo and Johnny Mathis and my program director, Johnny 1517 01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:08.399 Ka he was also a speaker, and thousands of people, 1518 01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:11.920 I mean, maybe I shouldn't say thousands. Hundreds of people 1519 01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:16.119 showed up, including Radio's best friend Art Bolo. He was 1520 01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:17.720 there to pare. 1521 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:21.479 There you go two mentions. Art got two mentions. That's perfect. 1522 01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:24.079 The book is all I want to do is play 1523 01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.680 the hits. And he has been doing it successfully and 1524 01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:32.239 supersedingly successfully now for decades and decades and decades. The 1525 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:36.399 one and only Shotgun Tom Kelly from Sirius XM's sixties 1526 01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:40.159 Gold our guest on American History on the radio, and Tom, 1527 01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:42.439 it's been such a pleasure. And I know we could 1528 01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.119 go on like this for hours, but unfortunately. 1529 01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:45.119 Yeah we can. 1530 01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:45.800 That's the time. 1531 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:48.600 With Garry, you are such a big time guy. I 1532 01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:52.159 am just delighted to be on your show because you've 1533 01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:55.119 had Pat Saint John, You've had Flash Stolps, and now 1534 01:23:55.159 --> 01:24:00.000 you've got me. Thank you thank you, thank you, Thank you. 1535 01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:03.359 The shotgun on the nightcap we continue. 1536 01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:06.039 When do you like to listen to Scott's Loan? 1537 01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:07.720 I love to listen to Slooney when I'm at my 1538 01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:09.720 cubicle because I couldn't care less about my job. 1539 01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:12.359 If I see someone smiling at work, I instantly know 1540 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:14.000 they're listening to Slowey. 1541 01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:16.359 Because everyone else looks like they're on prison work details. 1542 01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:18.000 I listened to Slony when I was in prison. 1543 01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:19.680 Did you really a bunch of us would drink the 1544 01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:21.920 hooch we made in our toilets and have a sloony party? 1545 01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:25.439 Slooney and toilet booze might be fun. Scott's loan Cloney Yes, 1546 01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:26.640 toilet drinks. 1547 01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:30.239 No Tomorrow morning at nine on seven hundred WLW, and 1548 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:33.159 check out his podcast on the Free iHeartRadio App. 1549 01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:35.800 Just in time for the New Year, the new and 1550 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:39.279 improved Free iHeartRadio App is finally here. 1551 01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:41.960 It's everything you love about radio in the punt and. 1552 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.119 Closer and closer to twenty twenty five with every minute 1553 01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:48.720 that passes. It's the Nightcap Great American History on the 1554 01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:52.800 Radio on New Year's Eve, focusing on some of my 1555 01:24:52.840 --> 01:24:57.319 favorite interviews with my favorite radio personalities from the past year. 1556 01:24:57.920 --> 01:24:59.760 And this is a guy I never thought i'd be 1557 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:04.000 able to get. He's doing talk radios somewhere, I think 1558 01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:05.439 in Chicago at WGN. 1559 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:06.239 Yeah, we cover that. 1560 01:25:07.239 --> 01:25:11.600 But in the heyday of AM Top forty radio, there 1561 01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:15.800 were no stars bigger in the nineteen seventies than a 1562 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:20.000 man they called He called Chawn Records Land Decker, and 1563 01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:21.920 Records is truly his middle name. 1564 01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:25.600 Always got a kick out of that listening to him. 1565 01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:29.560 The great voice is still alive on the Nightcap tonight 1566 01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:33.119 in an exclusive interview that he was kind enough to 1567 01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:37.680 do going back a few months ago. So, without any 1568 01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:42.199 further ado, after the break, my interview on American history 1569 01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:44.840 on the radio on New Year's Eve once again with 1570 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:49.039 John Records Land Decker coming up here on seven hundred 1571 01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:50.079 w LW. 1572 01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:54.199 Meanwhile, in the enchaned forest, the princess is calling for 1573 01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:56.640 help with blinding speed. 1574 01:25:56.760 --> 01:25:58.319 Our heroes Eddie and Rocky. 1575 01:25:58.159 --> 01:25:59.000 Rush to her, aid. 1576 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:00.479 Princess, that's wrong? 1577 01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:01.079 Are you hurt? 1578 01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:01.399 Now? 1579 01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:04.399 You think dope? I've done went dead while I was 1580 01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:06.279 listening to the podcast of your show. 1581 01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:08.239 No problem, just charge your phone. 1582 01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:11.920 I don't charge phones. I'm a princess here use my phone. 1583 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:15.359 Then hang on a minute for these pictures of women's feet. 1584 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:19.079 Eddie and Rockie. Give your day a fairy tale, ending. 1585 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:22.520 Tomorrow afternoon at three one seven hundred WLWRT. 1586 01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:26.680 Run a business and not thinking about radio, think again, 1587 01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:29.720 because more people are listening to the radio on iHeart 1588 01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:32.840 today than they did twenty years ago, and only iHeart 1589 01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:37.359 broadcast radio connects with more Americans than TV, digital, social, 1590 01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:40.640 any other media, even twice as many teens than TikTok. 1591 01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:45.880 Think radio can help your business? Think iHeart streaming, podcasting, 1592 01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:49.880 and radio. Let us show you at iheartadvertising dot com. 1593 01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:52.239 That's iheartadvertising dot com. 1594 01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:54.800 Men, the new year is here, and if you're like 1595 01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:56.800 many of us, you're going to make a resolution to 1596 01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:59.640 improve your health. But if you're feeling sluggish and low energy, 1597 01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:01.560 if you're sleep patterns are off, if you've. 1598 01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:03.640 Been thick words saying up the phone on me, oh 1599 01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:05.960 that's easy, w l' boogie check. 1600 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:10.239 Hey, mister wizard, I'm calling him the name of justice. 1601 01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:12.279 About a month ago, I called me a monkey out 1602 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:14.680 of you on the phone. So if you say the 1603 01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:15.479 right magic. 1604 01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:16.880 Word, how did you make a muggy out of me? 1605 01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:18.600 I said something wrong. 1606 01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:20.159 So if you say the right word, you'll make a 1607 01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:20.880 monkey out of me. 1608 01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:23.119 I want to make a monkey out of you. 1609 01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:28.159 Go Banana. 1610 01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:33.079 That is some of the craziness that was known as 1611 01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:37.840 boogie check, an invention of one John Records Land Decker 1612 01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:42.359 when he was on eighty nine WLS in Chicago. That's 1613 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:46.520 from nineteen seventy seven. Today, John Records Land Decker is 1614 01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:50.319 a national radio treasure and he is nightly doing a 1615 01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:53.279 talk show on seven to twenty WGN back in the 1616 01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:58.880 Windy City. And this is American history on the radio 1617 01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:03.279 on the night cap. John Records, and Records is truly 1618 01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:06.439 your middle name, Land Decker. It's such a pleasure to 1619 01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:09.159 sit down and talk with you for a few moments. 1620 01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:11.520 Well, thank you very much for having me on. I 1621 01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:12.239 appreciate it. 1622 01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:13.359 Oh Man. 1623 01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:16.520 And you know, I kind of told you, but I'll 1624 01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:20.479 tell the audience that as a kid growing up in 1625 01:28:20.520 --> 01:28:24.439 suburban Chicago, we lived in Donners Grove in Napersville from 1626 01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:26.640 like sixty five to seventy one. Now, you hadn't gotten 1627 01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:30.760 a WLS at that point, but when I got my 1628 01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:34.039 first transistor radio, I think it was seven years old. 1629 01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:40.239 WLS was locked as long as I was able to 1630 01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:42.840 have the radio on or the nine volt battery didn't 1631 01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:45.680 wear out, and my parents didn't find out. I was 1632 01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:48.880 listening in my bedroom with the thing underneath my pillow, 1633 01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:52.760 says past my bedtime, and I heard all these great 1634 01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:57.960 voices and just a commanding presence of the jocks of 1635 01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:01.840 that day. And it was not just WLS, it was 1636 01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:06.119 WCFL there. The top forty radio wars in Chicago were 1637 01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:09.640 absolutely insane with the contesting and the money that was 1638 01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:12.840 being paid to the talent and the fight over the talent. 1639 01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:16.039 You got there in what seventy three or seventy four 1640 01:29:16.079 --> 01:29:17.399 to WLS. 1641 01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:17.840 John when we were so. 1642 01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:24.600 I got there, yeah, And so anyway, I was still 1643 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:27.920 hooked on WLS when we moved away, and of course 1644 01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:31.399 with that big booming signal like seven hundred WLW has 1645 01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:34.960 big booming signal on WLS. I could hear it in 1646 01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:38.079 suburban Saint Louis when we moved there, and then to 1647 01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:42.119 even to Nashville, Tennessee in Middle Tennessee, and I would 1648 01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:45.119 listen late at night and I would hear you, and 1649 01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:49.079 I heard boogie check, and it so influenced me in 1650 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:52.680 my radio career later that I started trying to copy 1651 01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:58.000 it as crazy as it was. So what was the 1652 01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:00.119 what was the origin of the boog. 1653 01:30:01.479 --> 01:30:02.159 First of all? 1654 01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:05.359 First of all, I want to say that it's a 1655 01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:09.239 great honor to be on WLW because it's one of 1656 01:30:09.279 --> 01:30:13.039 the great radio stations in American history. And it also 1657 01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:16.800 is part of my current situation where I only appear 1658 01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:17.600 on radio. 1659 01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:19.079 Stations and have three call letters. 1660 01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:25.039 So I wanted I wanted to make it clear, all right, 1661 01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:26.840 where did boogie check come from? 1662 01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:30.479 If there was a real place that. 1663 01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:36.399 It came from, you know, some thought out, well thought 1664 01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:40.600 out plan, I let you know, But it was a 1665 01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:45.920 totally spontaneous experience on the air. I guess this sort 1666 01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:48.159 of starts with the fact that the term let's boogie 1667 01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:52.640 was a spying expression at the time. Yeah, it was 1668 01:30:52.680 --> 01:30:57.600 being printed on T shirts and other items of apparel 1669 01:30:57.640 --> 01:31:04.680 and being used and as lying and so you've got 1670 01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:14.279 that as a bass, that term boogie that is floating around. Okay, Well, 1671 01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:20.880 AM radio stations have played top forty rock music at 1672 01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:24.439 that time. I had a reputation of repeating the same 1673 01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.119 songs over and over and over again. And that's because 1674 01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:31.000 they repeated the same songs over and over and over again, 1675 01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:35.199 and I was on at night and I got really 1676 01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:38.439 tired of that. I was just you know, if you 1677 01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:42.279 heard them once in a while, it was okay, but 1678 01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:47.399 if you were there every time they repeated, it became irritating. 1679 01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:49.920 So you've got that going on. 1680 01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:53.920 Then we had a one of our air personalities was 1681 01:31:54.000 --> 01:32:00.079 named j J. Jeffrey, and he had a mustache, and 1682 01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:04.319 he was dating and before he would go out on 1683 01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:07.319 a date, he would do what he called a sixty 1684 01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:10.000 second booger check, in which he would look in the 1685 01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:13.680 mirror and see if there were any nasal deposits on 1686 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:18.439 his upperlip area. Well, one night, don't ask me how. 1687 01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:24.199 I have no idea, because it just spontaneously occurred. All 1688 01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:27.039 of that came together as the sixty second bookie check. 1689 01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:32.239 I started answering the phone live on the air at WLS. 1690 01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:36.039 I had no idea what a boogie check meant. It 1691 01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:41.399 didn't mean anything. You could interpret it, I suppose any 1692 01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.920 way you wanted to, if you were like a twelve 1693 01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:48.560 year old listener. And it just went on from there. 1694 01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:54.560 No One, as far as I knew, no one used 1695 01:32:55.760 --> 01:33:00.039 Top forty or rock radio in that manner. Prior to 1696 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:03.279 to that. I mean, they took phone calls to the 1697 01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:07.600 extent that you could hear a request or a dedication, 1698 01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.439 But this was none of that. This was just random 1699 01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:14.880 chaos going up and down the telephone line, live on 1700 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:19.520 the air, just reacting to whatever I ran into. And 1701 01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:24.239 it seemed to be something that I could do pretty well. 1702 01:33:24.279 --> 01:33:29.319 And that's pretty much it. There's no grand design design 1703 01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:30.319 to it, well. 1704 01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:33.119 You know, and it doesn't occur to me that it 1705 01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:35.479 would be a thing that you put a lot of 1706 01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:36.159 thought into. 1707 01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:37.800 But that was the beauty, no. 1708 01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:38.520 Thought into it. 1709 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:41.000 Not only that's one of the reasons I loved it. 1710 01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:45.000 It didn't require any thought, didn't require any preparation, you know, 1711 01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:45.800 I just did it. 1712 01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:48.199 No, they would call and they would be stupid, and 1713 01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:50.279 you would be rude and hang up on them. And 1714 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:54.680 the idea was for listeners hearing this, and what's a 1715 01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:55.840 booky check anyway? 1716 01:33:56.439 --> 01:33:57.880 Exactly so. 1717 01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:01.000 But it was like almost like bull riding. 1718 01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:03.399 If you could stay on eight seconds until the bell, 1719 01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:05.279 you could win, right. 1720 01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:09.399 I've never heard that analogy, but that's great. Yeah, I 1721 01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:09.840 guess so. 1722 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:13.520 But it inspired me boogie check. 1723 01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:18.880 Hearing that as a teenager and tweeer inspired me til 1724 01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:21.560 later on in my radio career do this game? I 1725 01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:24.560 used to play at multiple stations that I've been on, 1726 01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:28.399 called what is it? And I didn't have an answer 1727 01:34:28.439 --> 01:34:30.960 for what it was. But when I got a creative enough, 1728 01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:34.760 whacky enough phone call and they exactly it, it's this, 1729 01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:38.840 and they'd go through some rambling dissertation about what it is, 1730 01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:39.800 and I say, you're. 1731 01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:42.600 Right, I can't believe you nailed it. That's great. 1732 01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:45.640 But that was all because of listening to John Records, 1733 01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:47.279 Landecker and Boogie. 1734 01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:48.680 Check you know there. 1735 01:34:49.079 --> 01:34:50.960 Over the years, people have said to me, how did 1736 01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:52.960 you splice all those phone calls together? 1737 01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:58.119 And the reason we didn't. They were always one hundred 1738 01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:00.399 percent live on delay. 1739 01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:04.439 Rather, there was never any kind of pre taping at all. 1740 01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:09.399 The only concession that was ever made to the callers 1741 01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:12.039 was the fact in the beginning WLS had no delay 1742 01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:15.640 system because no one took any phone calls alive on 1743 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:23.399 a rock station. So the big f got put out 1744 01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:26.319 over the airwaves. I mean, the SEC at the time 1745 01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:29.119 said something like, you know, do whatever you can to 1746 01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:31.239 keep these obstanities off the air. Well, you know what, 1747 01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:34.439 once they're on, they're on. I mean, you can't bring 1748 01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:38.880 them back. And once that spread around that that had 1749 01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:43.760 happened in the rape vine of the Chicago teen community, 1750 01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:47.319 that they had heard the big F on WLS the 1751 01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:53.199 night before the place exploded with phone calls, and the 1752 01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:58.840 engineering had department Engineering department had to devise the first 1753 01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:05.840 very crude delay system that allowed bookie check would be 1754 01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:08.039 on the air. You'd go into the delay system for 1755 01:36:08.119 --> 01:36:11.079 the for the phone calls and for the bit and 1756 01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:14.880 then come out of it at the end. Nowadays it's 1757 01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:17.960 all digital and everybody's on delay pretty much all the time. 1758 01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:23.720 Oh yeah, I mean yeah, from when they installed the 1759 01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:29.000 digital transmitter here at seven hundred years ago. Uh, that 1760 01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:32.119 added an extra delay to the system. But there is 1761 01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:36.720 a delay dump system that we in the talk studio 1762 01:36:37.319 --> 01:36:42.680 and in the producer's room. There are giant red buttons 1763 01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:47.239 that just say dump exactly, and I rarely imagine. 1764 01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:51.920 Yeah, if you can imagine, there was none of that. Yeah, nothing, 1765 01:36:52.439 --> 01:36:58.520 There was no delay system whatsoever, and so something had 1766 01:36:58.560 --> 01:37:01.359 to be devised. And instead of telling me that I 1767 01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:04.159 couldn't do it, which you know, might have been one 1768 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:08.239 management reaction, they were totally behind it. And I think 1769 01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:11.079 that's another thing that's very important to note here is 1770 01:37:11.119 --> 01:37:13.920 that the program director at the time, John Garan, and 1771 01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:17.840 the general manager Marty Greenberg. You know, I never asked 1772 01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:21.640 them for permission to do this. I just went and 1773 01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:25.720 did it, and they saw how popular it was immediately, 1774 01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:27.840 and they totally supported it. 1775 01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:31.439 I mean, they had our. 1776 01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:35.880 Jingle company Jam Jingles, Record Boogie Check Jingles in there. 1777 01:37:36.319 --> 01:37:36.560 You know. 1778 01:37:37.479 --> 01:37:40.640 They allowed people the air, personalities on the air to 1779 01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:44.560 do whatever sort of came to mind as long as 1780 01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:48.600 it didn't cross the lines of I suppose good taste 1781 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:54.560 or threatened the license of the radio station. So I mean, 1782 01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:58.479 I think that's important to note is that the programming 1783 01:37:58.479 --> 01:38:01.560 and the management of that radio we're totally into it. 1784 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:02.560 Which is unusual. 1785 01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:06.760 Well, I'm very very I'll tell you. As a talk 1786 01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:10.039 show host, I'm very very when I'm talking about anything 1787 01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:15.479 that's cultural or political. I am very far right. Why 1788 01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:18.319 I wouldn't say far right. I mean, I haven't blown 1789 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:22.960 up any buildings or anything, but thank god, yeah, right, exactly, 1790 01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:27.439 and don't intend to. But whatever the subject matter is, 1791 01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:30.920 whether it's been COVID nineteen, vaccines, or anything else that 1792 01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:33.680 I have talked about and taken a stand, no one 1793 01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:37.920 from iHeartMedia or here in the building has ever said Gary, Jeff, 1794 01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:38.359 don't do that. 1795 01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:40.520 You can't do that. 1796 01:38:40.840 --> 01:38:44.000 So I understand having the freedom and it doesn't matter 1797 01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:46.520 what it is, John, If you have the freedom to 1798 01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:49.760 express a thought or to do something that you think 1799 01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:53.520 you need to do for you and your audience, then 1800 01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:55.800 if you've got the green light to do that, you know. 1801 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.479 And I don't ask permission either, Like you said, it's 1802 01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:00.640 always better to ask forgiveness and permission. 1803 01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:02.760 And I haven't had have. 1804 01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:05.079 Not you know, this wasn't there was no there was 1805 01:39:05.119 --> 01:39:06.840 nothing political, no, no, no. 1806 01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:07.359 I understand. 1807 01:39:07.399 --> 01:39:09.760 I was just giving you an illustration of the same 1808 01:39:09.880 --> 01:39:14.159 kind of the same kind of acquiescence by management, of 1809 01:39:14.239 --> 01:39:17.039 letting the jock or the air talent be the air 1810 01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:17.920 talent that they are. 1811 01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:18.520 You know what I mean. 1812 01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:23.000 I understand, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I do. So. 1813 01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:25.920 I mean to have that kind of freedom though, it 1814 01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:30.840 allows for some fantastic radio and you know, you look 1815 01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:34.880 back on it now and it just for me, it 1816 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:38.079 brings back a well spring of childhood memories. Over Labor 1817 01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:41.720 Day weekend, something called rewound radio and that was on 1818 01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:47.279 iHeart too. Had had just hours and hours and hours 1819 01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:51.520 of programming from WLS and WCFL back in the heyday, 1820 01:39:51.920 --> 01:39:54.680 from the time I started listening in the late sixties 1821 01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:59.000 up through your era and up till like seventy eight 1822 01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:01.800 or seventy nine. They had all of these great voices 1823 01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:05.880 that I remember as a kid listening. One of the 1824 01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:10.000 things I loved about that era and that market and 1825 01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:13.800 that particular radio station growing up with it was not 1826 01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:16.520 only the great voices, but there was a level of 1827 01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:18.000 condescension there. 1828 01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:19.640 That was just amazing. 1829 01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:24.039 I mean, and they weren't mean necessarily to the listener, 1830 01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:27.039 but you know, it kind of had a voice of 1831 01:40:27.119 --> 01:40:30.359 God effect. And and listening to the boogey check, I 1832 01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:35.479 hear you though, iniquities shall be punished by pounding. 1833 01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:39.760 Wait, that's something that was specifically, that was specifically put 1834 01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:43.640 in there when somebody that was the was that the 1835 01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:47.640 delay system, Yes, that was used to cover up the obscenity. 1836 01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:51.279 That was That was Bill Price, our production. 1837 01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:54.359 Director, and we had him cut a number of these 1838 01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:57.479 very short bow as you know, a. 1839 01:40:57.560 --> 01:41:01.359 Violated the world's taste, and that played when. 1840 01:41:03.079 --> 01:41:06.239 That replaced the obscedity or the off pollo remark that 1841 01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:09.560 had been on the air. So that's where that came 1842 01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:12.359 from that was what that was used for, you know. 1843 01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:16.520 And I want to say something else about w ELLS 1844 01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:19.880 at that time. One of the keys to its huge 1845 01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:24.000 success was the fact that everybody got along so well, 1846 01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:29.439 and you know, the lineup of their personalities appeared on 1847 01:41:29.479 --> 01:41:34.159 each others shows. We had a great time on and 1848 01:41:34.199 --> 01:41:37.359 off the air. We had sort of a prime directive, 1849 01:41:37.920 --> 01:41:41.079 which was that the radio station was there as a 1850 01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:46.039 tool for our amusement and as a way. You know 1851 01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:48.000 that we didn't have anything to do with the listener 1852 01:41:48.079 --> 01:41:51.720 per se, but it certainly did in the fact that 1853 01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:53.479 the people who listened would always. 1854 01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:55.239 Say, you guys, ound like you were just having. 1855 01:41:55.039 --> 01:41:58.079 A great time, and that's because we were. You were 1856 01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:02.039 And I think that, you know, transmits itself out to 1857 01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:03.680 the listener and they pick up on that and they 1858 01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:04.560 want to be a part. 1859 01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:05.920 Of that, you know. 1860 01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:09.760 And I've never been at a station that had that 1861 01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:13.880 kind of camaraderie before or since. And we still as 1862 01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:22.520 a group maintain connections. It's quite amazing. Quite frankly. 1863 01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:28.520 Well, in speaking of the staff, what was Larry Lujack like. 1864 01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:29.119 John. 1865 01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:32.119 Well? 1866 01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:36.439 I love Larry lu Jack. He was a great guy. 1867 01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:47.199 He had this on air persona being sarcastic, and he 1868 01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:50.239 was one of the hardest working people I'd ever met. 1869 01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:53.760 He was at the station hours and hours and hours 1870 01:42:54.439 --> 01:42:59.199 going over newspapers and what was called wire copy at 1871 01:42:59.239 --> 01:43:02.600 the time, which from unit president of National Associated Press. 1872 01:43:04.319 --> 01:43:08.399 He was dedicated to his craft and it was just 1873 01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:09.840 a great guy to be around. 1874 01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:13.239 He was fun. 1875 01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:21.720 We all loved him, and. 1876 01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:22.039 That wasn't his persona on the air so much, but 1877 01:43:22.760 --> 01:43:25.159 because it was a bit of an act, but it 1878 01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:29.319 worked very well for him and he was really well liked. 1879 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:33.239 I'll tell you a brief, brief story. 1880 01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:38.119 Okay, here's here's what I want to do, John, I 1881 01:43:38.159 --> 01:43:40.479 want to take a break and come back and do 1882 01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:43.239 another segment if you'll indulge me, and you can tell 1883 01:43:43.640 --> 01:43:46.079 this is what they call in the business folks, a tease. 1884 01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:49.880 We're going to hear funny Larry Lujack story from John 1885 01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:53.840 Records Landecker and Records is truly his middle name. One 1886 01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:57.920 of the broad is one of the broadcasting legends of 1887 01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:01.920 my life. For certain, It's American history on the radio, 1888 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:06.279 and it continues after the break on seven hundred WLW. 1889 01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:13.239 News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati. 1890 01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:18.399 What state's new medical marijuana legalization forcing a certain dilemma? Well, 1891 01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:22.479 The eleven thirty reports, I'm lee mawin breaking now starting 1892 01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:27.079 at mednight, Kentuckians have a choice medical marijuana or the firearms. 1893 01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:31.920 Reporting from our sister station in Louisville, whas John Shannon. 1894 01:44:32.239 --> 01:44:34.680 According to a statement from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco 1895 01:44:34.760 --> 01:44:38.359 and Firearms, any person who uses marijuana, regardless of whether 1896 01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:41.560 his or her state has passed legislation legalizing it for 1897 01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:45.159 medical purposes, is an unlawful user of a controlled substance 1898 01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:49.199 and is prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition under federal law. 1899 01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:52.960 Matthew Bradscher, with the Kentucky branch of the National Organization 1900 01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.800 of the Reform of Marijuana Laws, says people who own 1901 01:44:55.880 --> 01:44:58.439 firearms and want to use medical marijuana need to be 1902 01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:00.960 aware of the risks of continuing to own guns. 1903 01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:05.079 They definitely need to be aware of the risks. You know, 1904 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:08.399 if you lie on the forum, it's federal perjury and 1905 01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:11.680 if you get caught with it, it could be a 1906 01:45:11.720 --> 01:45:13.199 time a jail up to ten years. 1907 01:45:13.279 --> 01:45:16.079 Bratcher says gun dealers could also be charged for knowingly 1908 01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:20.760 selling firearms to medical marijuana cardholders and users. I'm John Shannon. 1909 01:45:22.119 --> 01:45:24.720 Now the latest traffic and weather together. We still have 1910 01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:27.640 that crash reporting on US fifty at Chambers. This is 1911 01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:31.039 near the underpass of I two seventy five. As you 1912 01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:36.159 head towards Indiana going south, the roads remain open. 1913 01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:37.479 Just prepare for that. 1914 01:45:37.560 --> 01:45:41.199 We also have a disabled vehicle in the right shoulder 1915 01:45:41.279 --> 01:45:44.199 I seventy one I seventy five north towards the Donaldson 1916 01:45:44.279 --> 01:45:45.079 Highway exit. 1917 01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:49.119 That is not slowing anything down. Just something to watch now. 1918 01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:52.359 The latest forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling Weather 1919 01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:55.920 Center on News Radio seven hundred wl W as. 1920 01:45:55.920 --> 01:45:58.199 Much colder temperatures on the way overnight as we usher 1921 01:45:58.319 --> 01:46:01.960 in twenty twenty five, rain and snow dwindling into early 1922 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:04.399 parts of Wednesday morning, with a few flurries out the 1923 01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:07.119 door on Wednesday. We may see a wintry mixed at 1924 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:09.520 times throughout the day on Wednesday or New Year's Day, 1925 01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:11.319 but it will be a little bit above freezing and 1926 01:46:11.439 --> 01:46:15.079 thirty seven degrees and mostly cloudy skies, getting chilly overnight 1927 01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:17.520 into Thursday down into the mid twenties and will continue 1928 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:19.880 the cold spell into the weekend with snow chances Thursday 1929 01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:22.079 to Friday. From here severe weather station I'm nine first 1930 01:46:22.079 --> 01:46:26.279 warning media rollinds just Brandon Spinner News Radio seven hundred WLW. 1931 01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:27.199 Thirty eight degrees in Cincinnati. 1932 01:46:27.279 --> 01:46:32.680 Still plenty of rain in Claremont, Brown Warren, South Green County, 1933 01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:37.079 Western Clinton County, and southeastern Montgomery County. A little bit 1934 01:46:37.079 --> 01:46:40.239 of snow leading the cell in Brown County, and some 1935 01:46:40.359 --> 01:46:44.239 patches closing up in western Claremont County. At green light 1936 01:46:44.279 --> 01:46:46.600 of the seven million dollar grant to start devil ring 1937 01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:50.760 the former Seers store at Coleraine Township's Northgate Mall. The 1938 01:46:50.840 --> 01:46:53.520 abandoned store, with its parking lot set on nearly thirteen 1939 01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:56.680 acres of unused potential. It's currently owned by the Hamilton 1940 01:46:56.680 --> 01:46:59.199 County Land Bank and an entity of the Port of 1941 01:46:59.279 --> 01:47:04.279 Greater Cincinnati Development Authority. Colraine Township Developer Director David Miller 1942 01:47:04.319 --> 01:47:08.000 told The Cincinnati Business Warrior the bulldozers aren't running yet, 1943 01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:11.199 but it's close, while also noting how clean and easy 1944 01:47:11.239 --> 01:47:13.560 the path will be to tear it down. The Northgate 1945 01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:17.159 Mallseers closed down in twenty eighteen. A Tuesday morning fire 1946 01:47:17.279 --> 01:47:20.119 sets a food processing plant back fifty thousand dollars in 1947 01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:23.439 damages happening on the Coalk Foods Plan on Port Union Road. 1948 01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:26.359 After seven o'clock, first responders found the fire in a 1949 01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:30.960 second floor mechanical room. The facility sprinkler system deployed, limiting 1950 01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:34.439 the blaze to that room. Crews from Fairfield, Springdale, Westchester, 1951 01:47:34.520 --> 01:47:37.359 and Liberty Township knocked the fire down in about twenty minutes. 1952 01:47:37.640 --> 01:47:38.720 No injuries reported. 1953 01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:41.600 A faulty motor is expected to be the culprit of 1954 01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:44.840 the blaze. Employees returned to work once things settled down. 1955 01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:48.319 We are just about twenty six minutes away from twenty 1956 01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:50.239 twenty five and security is high. 1957 01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:51.880 In Times Square, a. 1958 01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:54.880 Million people are packing the streets despite rain in the forecast. 1959 01:47:54.960 --> 01:47:57.920 While officials say there's no specific threat, they remain on 1960 01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.880 high alert. All the security though in no way dampening 1961 01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:02.079 spirits on this big night. 1962 01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.760 I think it's gonna be amazing, Super excited and want 1963 01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:06.600 to do this for a while actually, and now I 1964 01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:07.439 got the chance to do it. 1965 01:48:07.520 --> 01:48:10.840 Police are monitoring the celebrations with drones, canine units and 1966 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:15.000 thousands of officers. Officers are also searching into the subway system, 1967 01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:17.640 where today a passenger was left in critical condition after 1968 01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:20.119 being pushed onto the tracks south of Times Square. 1969 01:48:20.359 --> 01:48:21.920 A suspect is in custody. 1970 01:48:22.239 --> 01:48:24.279 That's ABC's Aaron Katski. 1971 01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:28.479 That's our last newscast of twenty four. Our next update 1972 01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:32.199 in the new year at midnight. I'mley Mawen. Who's Radio 1973 01:48:32.279 --> 01:48:34.199 seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 1974 01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:35.880 It's the Marketer's Report Today. 1975 01:48:36.119 --> 01:48:39.119 Kate Cronin, Chief brand Officer of Maderna tells us about the. 1976 01:48:39.039 --> 01:48:42.399 Advantage history on the radio. On the nightcap on seven 1977 01:48:42.520 --> 01:48:43.760 hundred WLW. 1978 01:48:43.800 --> 01:48:45.760 That's a lengthy title. John. 1979 01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:50.399 When we last were talking before the break, you were 1980 01:48:50.399 --> 01:48:54.760 going to tell me a Larry Lujack story from those 1981 01:48:54.840 --> 01:49:01.039 classic vintage days at WLS Radio in Chicago, So please continue, sir. 1982 01:49:02.079 --> 01:49:04.439 Well, this isn't a story like that has a set up, 1983 01:49:04.479 --> 01:49:06.199 the middle and a punchline. But I'll tell you what 1984 01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:08.760 it was, Okay. I came to WLS and seventy two. 1985 01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:11.520 I came there from Philadelphia. I was a very young kid. 1986 01:49:12.279 --> 01:49:15.880 Larry was already there. In one of our little conversations 1987 01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:21.279 back in our little DJ offices. The discussion was, I've 1988 01:49:21.319 --> 01:49:24.920 got to be about Elvis and the Beatles, and I said, 1989 01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:29.000 you know, I really liked the Beatles. I mean, Elvis 1990 01:49:29.079 --> 01:49:33.199 is okay, you know, but I really liked the Beatles. Well, anyway, 1991 01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:37.279 Larry was a huge Elvis fan. And he goes, you 1992 01:49:37.479 --> 01:49:42.840 don't know nothing about music, you Philadelphia fill in the blank? 1993 01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:44.439 All right. Yeah. 1994 01:49:45.640 --> 01:49:49.479 So years passed, a few years past, and Elvis dies 1995 01:49:49.880 --> 01:49:52.800 in the afternoon, and I'm at the station in Larry 1996 01:49:52.880 --> 01:49:54.399 is and I say, God, he's. 1997 01:49:54.199 --> 01:49:54.800 Got to know this. 1998 01:49:54.880 --> 01:49:58.199 He wants to know this. This is important. So this 1999 01:49:58.239 --> 01:49:59.319 isn't on the air or anything. 2000 01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:02.159 So I Calledarry at home and I talked to his wife, Judy, 2001 01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:03.239 and I say, Judy. 2002 01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:04.119 It's John Landecker. 2003 01:50:04.159 --> 01:50:07.479 I got to talk to Larry Eldsteine and she goes, well, 2004 01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:12.560 he's Larry's taken a nap. And I said, well, because 2005 01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:16.520 he was the morning guy, right, so and so I said, well, 2006 01:50:17.199 --> 01:50:18.119 I think he would want to know. 2007 01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:19.880 He goes, he goes okay. 2008 01:50:21.399 --> 01:50:25.680 And Larry gets on the phone. Yeah, what is it, Larry. 2009 01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:31.800 It's a land Decker at the station Elvis died. 2010 01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:34.800 Yeah, I'm taking a nap. 2011 01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:37.600 We expect me to do about it? 2012 01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:42.960 Click? Okay. 2013 01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:48.800 Then thirty maybe twenty five thirty years later, the anniversary 2014 01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:56.880 of Elvis's death I'm doing afternoons on what became WLSSM, 2015 01:50:57.359 --> 01:50:59.560 and I had. 2016 01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:02.199 His phone number from whore. 2017 01:51:02.239 --> 01:51:06.640 He was living in Texas, and I called him up 2018 01:51:07.319 --> 01:51:08.279 and I go. 2019 01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:09.399 Larry, you're on the air. 2020 01:51:09.439 --> 01:51:12.159 He goes, yes, mostly informed people. Well, you put him 2021 01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:14.279 out of the air, too bad, Larry. I want to 2022 01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:17.239 tell you that I wanted to remind you know, thirty 2023 01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:23.279 years ago Altemus died and he just absolutely broke up, 2024 01:51:23.439 --> 01:51:29.279 like hysterical, and he goes a people, that's his story, 2025 01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:33.439 and he launches into this whole recap over the incident 2026 01:51:33.479 --> 01:51:38.960 that I just related to you. And and it was 2027 01:51:39.039 --> 01:51:41.239 funnier the second time around because the first time it 2028 01:51:41.279 --> 01:51:46.920 didn't happen on the air, right, So, and maybe it's not, 2029 01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:51.600 you know, like an hysterical thing that happened with Larry, but. 2030 01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:54.880 Let's just say it sort of. 2031 01:51:54.920 --> 01:52:02.359 Encapsulates his personality and how actually he was totally approachable 2032 01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:05.000 and had a great sense of humor. 2033 01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:05.800 You know. 2034 01:52:06.359 --> 01:52:09.640 Yeah, you and I have both interviewed the legendary shotgun 2035 01:52:09.680 --> 01:52:12.159 Tom Kelly this summer because he's got a book out. 2036 01:52:12.479 --> 01:52:14.439 But I wanted to ask I wanted to ask you 2037 01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:15.159 the same. 2038 01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:18.479 Kind of questions I asked Shotgun Tom and you probably 2039 01:52:18.720 --> 01:52:22.159 inquired of this as well when you talk to him. 2040 01:52:23.239 --> 01:52:25.720 What inspired you to be in radio in the first place, John, 2041 01:52:26.279 --> 01:52:26.760 What was the. 2042 01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:31.000 That's a good question. I think a part of it 2043 01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:32.319 has to do with being. 2044 01:52:33.720 --> 01:52:34.960 Around when. 2045 01:52:38.840 --> 01:52:44.880 Radio at that time still had what we would call 2046 01:52:45.159 --> 01:52:49.640 entertainment programming, before the era of rock and roll. We're 2047 01:52:49.680 --> 01:52:54.039 talking like somewhere in the fifties where you could hear 2048 01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:57.000 I mean I was really young, but you could hear 2049 01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:59.640 people I don't even need to names mean anything good, 2050 01:52:59.640 --> 01:53:03.439 anybody anymore like Arthur god for you would have a 2051 01:53:03.520 --> 01:53:07.119 variety show with singers, and you could hear drama like 2052 01:53:07.199 --> 01:53:09.720 The Lone Ranger and Sky King, and you could hear 2053 01:53:10.159 --> 01:53:12.640 comedy shows and things like that. 2054 01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:13.560 And at the same. 2055 01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:15.640 Time, my dad, who was a professor at the University 2056 01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:20.640 of massip it was blind. So I'm getting like psychological now, 2057 01:53:22.079 --> 01:53:24.640 and in retrospect, I feel that that had something to 2058 01:53:24.640 --> 01:53:26.960 do with my interest in radio, because of course my 2059 01:53:27.039 --> 01:53:31.119 father couldn't see, so therefore television. We were the last 2060 01:53:31.119 --> 01:53:33.399 people on the block to have a TV. But he 2061 01:53:33.399 --> 01:53:37.960 would get all of his information from the radio. And 2062 01:53:38.479 --> 01:53:42.439 I was a boy scout and so little Christmas reuse 2063 01:53:42.479 --> 01:53:46.199 from door to drawer and raised a certain amount of 2064 01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:48.520 money and the money that I wanted to do with 2065 01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:50.680 my money, and we went down to an electronics store 2066 01:53:51.279 --> 01:53:53.760 and I wanted to buy a six transistor radio. 2067 01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:56.079 You know, you mentioned your nine vote battery earlier. 2068 01:53:56.880 --> 01:54:02.439 And there was a channel ester six transistor AM only 2069 01:54:02.600 --> 01:54:06.119 radio that costs thirty six bucks. 2070 01:54:06.079 --> 01:54:09.279 Back in that day. That was a lot of money. 2071 01:54:11.039 --> 01:54:14.239 And I only had like sixteen seventeen dollars, and my 2072 01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:15.560 parents matched. 2073 01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:20.560 It and brought the radio home and my. 2074 01:54:20.680 --> 01:54:25.199 Father listened to his newscasts on that radio that night. 2075 01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:29.119 I was just totally into radio from the get go. 2076 01:54:30.119 --> 01:54:33.760 I pretended I had a radio station in my how 2077 01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:34.199 am I? 2078 01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:34.479 You know? 2079 01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:35.279 My bedroom? 2080 01:54:35.720 --> 01:54:37.600 Did we all do that? We all did? 2081 01:54:37.640 --> 01:54:38.520 We all did that? 2082 01:54:38.680 --> 01:54:40.279 We all that I was talking. 2083 01:54:40.840 --> 01:54:43.800 I was talking to Tom shotgun Toime. He did that too. 2084 01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:46.079 I think we all did that, and. 2085 01:54:47.479 --> 01:54:50.920 You know, And then I was in high school. I 2086 01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:53.119 went to University of Michigan High School, which was run 2087 01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:55.279 by the University of Michigan School of Education. 2088 01:54:55.319 --> 01:54:57.479 It no longer exists, but. 2089 01:54:57.439 --> 01:55:00.880 They were open to suggestion and I had a political 2090 01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:06.279 science teacher named Mylon Marriage and instead of doing a 2091 01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:09.359 term paper, I was allowed to do a term tape 2092 01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:13.079 or I actually made a recording of something. And also 2093 01:55:13.119 --> 01:55:16.079 at the time, my girlfriend, her aunt was a quote 2094 01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:21.239 unquote woman's editor of a local AM station there in 2095 01:55:21.279 --> 01:55:25.560 ann Arbor, and she got me in to see the 2096 01:55:25.680 --> 01:55:29.000 program director one afternoon and I went out there and 2097 01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:31.520 it was this station that was on a dirt road 2098 01:55:31.520 --> 01:55:36.359 across from a dairy farm in Saline, Michigan. And I 2099 01:55:36.399 --> 01:55:39.079 walked in and talked to the guy who was on 2100 01:55:39.159 --> 01:55:42.359 the area, went into the during a record. He went 2101 01:55:42.399 --> 01:55:44.960 in and got a bunch of turned out to be 2102 01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:46.960 wire copy of the news and he gave it to me. 2103 01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:49.359 He said, go into that room and when that light comes. 2104 01:55:49.079 --> 01:55:50.920 On, read this stuff. 2105 01:55:51.560 --> 01:55:53.239 And he made a bit out of the fact that 2106 01:55:53.239 --> 01:55:55.199 there was a local high school kid that was there 2107 01:55:55.239 --> 01:55:57.680 who wanted to get into radio. And that was basically 2108 01:55:57.720 --> 01:55:58.199 the beginning. 2109 01:55:58.239 --> 01:55:58.680 That was it. 2110 01:55:59.119 --> 01:56:03.760 I started going out to that station after school. I 2111 01:56:03.800 --> 01:56:06.279 was hired as a janitor for a dollar fifteen an hour. 2112 01:56:07.560 --> 01:56:09.520 They had one rock and roll show on the air 2113 01:56:09.600 --> 01:56:12.920 during the week Saturday mornings a month until noon. I 2114 01:56:13.039 --> 01:56:16.520 joined that show as a newsman. One thing leads to 2115 01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:18.880 another and another and another, and I never left the 2116 01:56:18.920 --> 01:56:19.800 business since then. 2117 01:56:20.279 --> 01:56:21.840 And that was it. Yeah. 2118 01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:25.640 I attended the thirteenth grade at Volunteer State Community College 2119 01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:30.079 in Gallaton, Tennessee, for the radio program. 2120 01:56:29.560 --> 01:56:32.520 Exactly, and did not fit. 2121 01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:35.800 I was making straight a's in school, but it didn't 2122 01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:38.880 matter once I had the job. After a month internship 2123 01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:41.119 at the local station, I was done with school. I 2124 01:56:41.159 --> 01:56:43.800 had achieved my objective. I was just going to go 2125 01:56:43.920 --> 01:56:46.359 from there. Yeah, and that's what happened with me. 2126 01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:50.119 You know, you said that you currently are like right 2127 01:56:50.119 --> 01:56:52.600 wing commentator and broadcasting. 2128 01:56:52.840 --> 01:56:53.000 Yeah. 2129 01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:55.560 I don't know about righting, but okay, but you know 2130 01:56:55.640 --> 01:56:56.359 Rush Limbaugh. 2131 01:56:56.600 --> 01:56:58.119 Yeah, oh, Rush Limbaugh. 2132 01:56:58.399 --> 01:57:00.760 Rush Limbaugh is the guy that inspiredired me, made me 2133 01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:03.319 want to get into talk radio out of music radio. 2134 01:57:03.960 --> 01:57:07.680 Well, anyway, before Rush Limbaugh was Russia Limbaugh, he was 2135 01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:08.600 a jacket k. 2136 01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:10.399 Q V in Pittsburgh. 2137 01:57:10.439 --> 01:57:12.960 And one day at my house in Chicago, I picked 2138 01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:14.760 up the phone and it's him, and I have no 2139 01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:18.359 idea where he got my number, and he was calling 2140 01:57:18.439 --> 01:57:24.039 me to see if I had any advice on how to. 2141 01:57:24.039 --> 01:57:26.000 Be a disc jockey. 2142 01:57:26.800 --> 01:57:31.560 And I didn't remember this, but I saw him at 2143 01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:34.359 a like a I think he was being inducted into 2144 01:57:34.399 --> 01:57:37.319 the Hall of Fame Radio Hall of Fame or. 2145 01:57:37.239 --> 01:57:40.279 Something, and he said that he had called and that. 2146 01:57:40.319 --> 01:57:43.680 I was eating a salad and that's what he remembered 2147 01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:50.159 of that whole experience. But you know, he started out 2148 01:57:50.199 --> 01:57:53.720 in rock radio. You started out in rock radio. My 2149 01:57:54.359 --> 01:58:00.520 tenure as a talk show host is only like four years, and. 2150 01:58:00.359 --> 01:58:01.399 That's a w g N. 2151 01:58:02.039 --> 01:58:08.159 And I specifically stay away from any political or issue 2152 01:58:08.199 --> 01:58:10.279 oriented content. 2153 01:58:12.680 --> 01:58:15.079 Just you don't want to want. 2154 01:58:15.680 --> 01:58:16.239 I just don't want. 2155 01:58:16.279 --> 01:58:18.000 I just I just don't want to get into it 2156 01:58:18.039 --> 01:58:21.000 with anybody. I can't change anybody's mind. Nobody's going to 2157 01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:26.239 change my mind. We've got so much the visit divisiveness already. 2158 01:58:27.439 --> 01:58:28.640 Everybody knows what they think. 2159 01:58:28.680 --> 01:58:31.319 They're not going to believe anything, and nobody will believe anything. 2160 01:58:31.359 --> 01:58:33.159 I would try to make them believe anyway. 2161 01:58:33.239 --> 01:58:36.960 Oh no, you know, and it makes it easier for 2162 01:58:37.039 --> 01:58:39.279 me because I'm a people pleaser. 2163 01:58:40.039 --> 01:58:42.760 Well this is this is John, This is exactly why 2164 01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:46.680 I love doing interviews like this because it is a 2165 01:58:46.760 --> 01:58:49.720 political has nothing it has to do with with an 2166 01:58:49.760 --> 01:58:53.279 interest that I have. And my whole thing is if 2167 01:58:53.319 --> 01:58:56.439 I'm really interested in a topic, I can make the 2168 01:58:56.479 --> 01:58:58.279 audience interested in it and make it. 2169 01:58:58.439 --> 01:59:01.079 Well, that's true, true, you're right, right, yeah. 2170 01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:03.960 So I mean, no, I love not, but I'm just 2171 01:59:04.479 --> 01:59:07.800 when it comes time to tackle certain topics and I 2172 01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:09.800 don't get into those people. I just tell them the 2173 01:59:09.800 --> 01:59:13.119 way I feel it may be in my opinion. My 2174 01:59:13.199 --> 01:59:15.880 opinion may be controversial, and that may be why I'm 2175 01:59:15.880 --> 01:59:18.760 considered right wing by some people. So I guess I 2176 01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:20.520 may have given you the wrong idea there. 2177 01:59:20.680 --> 01:59:22.680 Well, no, no, I think having You know, if I 2178 01:59:22.840 --> 01:59:28.039 had strong opinions that I wanted other people to hear, 2179 01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:31.279 I would do that. But it's just not a part 2180 01:59:31.279 --> 01:59:34.000 of my and I may have a strong opinion on something, 2181 01:59:34.039 --> 01:59:36.439 but it's just not a part of my broadcast nature. 2182 01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:37.960 To be doing that. 2183 01:59:38.319 --> 01:59:40.880 And you know, I'm not a shock jock either, and 2184 01:59:41.840 --> 01:59:45.079 so it's sort of this sort of old not old fashioned, 2185 01:59:45.119 --> 01:59:51.319 but I guess traditional approach to a talk radio show 2186 01:59:51.640 --> 01:59:58.079 where it's safe, we try to be humorous, informative. Obviously, 2187 01:59:58.199 --> 02:00:02.039 is something big is happening, sure, uh, news wise or whatever, 2188 02:00:02.079 --> 02:00:07.960 we get to it. But other than that, it's I 2189 02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:11.239 originally came out and talked called it a radio oasis 2190 02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:16.920 because I came on ironically in the middle of COVID, 2191 02:00:17.720 --> 02:00:23.079 and that's all you heard about. And then and then 2192 02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:25.800 it was also the political run up to the election, 2193 02:00:26.199 --> 02:00:29.439 and we all remember how what that felt like. And 2194 02:00:29.800 --> 02:00:32.840 so I just, you know, I just stayed away from it. 2195 02:00:35.239 --> 02:00:38.560 My daughter says, Dad, you got a job during COVID. 2196 02:00:38.920 --> 02:00:40.760 I said, yeah, I know. It's sort of weird, isn't it. 2197 02:00:44.359 --> 02:00:48.800 And you know, we had the ability to do and 2198 02:00:48.920 --> 02:00:53.119 you know this too, radio programs that originate not from 2199 02:00:53.119 --> 02:00:55.680 the studio but from our homes and things like that. 2200 02:00:56.000 --> 02:00:58.079 And it was a long time before I ever went 2201 02:00:58.079 --> 02:01:01.359 into the w G and studios simply because of the 2202 02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:03.640 whole COVID situation. 2203 02:01:05.279 --> 02:01:06.760 And it was a very turbulent time. 2204 02:01:07.039 --> 02:01:10.119 I mean just just like every day felt like. 2205 02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:13.800 There was nothing but doom and gloom all day long. 2206 02:01:14.199 --> 02:01:16.479 So I came on and like, you know, we're not 2207 02:01:16.600 --> 02:01:21.119 doing that now. And initially it was. I got to 2208 02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:23.000 tell you, it was very successful. I mean I had 2209 02:01:23.000 --> 02:01:28.600 some rating periods that were and for a nighttime AM station, 2210 02:01:28.720 --> 02:01:30.760 I was like fifth in the market, and I'm like, oh. 2211 02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:32.439 That's incredible in that market. 2212 02:01:32.479 --> 02:01:34.880 Well I don't think I don't think it's like that anymore. 2213 02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:38.840 Things are drastically changed, and the station has changed a 2214 02:01:38.840 --> 02:01:44.600 few things. But the great thing about WGN is that 2215 02:01:44.680 --> 02:01:47.520 it's owned by next Star Media and next Star Media, 2216 02:01:47.680 --> 02:01:50.760 we are the only radio station that Next Star Media owns. 2217 02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:54.000 They were on a bunch of TV stations, but we're 2218 02:01:54.039 --> 02:02:00.399 it so the only child. Yes, we're the only child, 2219 02:02:00.680 --> 02:02:03.199 and we get treated like that. 2220 02:02:03.199 --> 02:02:03.720 That's great. 2221 02:02:04.359 --> 02:02:07.520 John Records Landecker is our guest on the Nightcap American 2222 02:02:07.600 --> 02:02:11.159 History on the Radio. And I guess what was your 2223 02:02:11.159 --> 02:02:14.920 first big job, John, big money job, big market, because 2224 02:02:14.960 --> 02:02:17.399 you worked everywhere. You worked in Toronto, I guess you 2225 02:02:17.479 --> 02:02:18.560 worked in Philadelphia. 2226 02:02:18.640 --> 02:02:23.399 Yeah, the big break. Let's call it that, because I 2227 02:02:23.439 --> 02:02:25.159 suppose the money at the time was good, but it 2228 02:02:25.159 --> 02:02:26.720 wouldn't be anything anybody would like. 2229 02:02:27.560 --> 02:02:28.680 That's their eyes at now. 2230 02:02:28.760 --> 02:02:32.560 I was a senior at Michigan State University and I 2231 02:02:32.680 --> 02:02:36.880 was majoring in Communication Arts, and little did I know 2232 02:02:36.960 --> 02:02:42.119 that there were these two radio officionados, Dave Alberry and 2233 02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:45.520 Jim Donahue, who were students and loved radio, and they 2234 02:02:45.520 --> 02:02:49.199 were recording my show at night on this local station 2235 02:02:49.279 --> 02:02:52.520 in East Lansing, Michigan or Lansing, Michigan called WILS. 2236 02:02:52.600 --> 02:02:54.199 While I was going to Michigan. 2237 02:02:53.840 --> 02:02:56.840 State and there was a disc jockey at CKOW and 2238 02:02:56.880 --> 02:03:01.159 Detroit named Mike Rivers, and that was a huge station. 2239 02:03:01.439 --> 02:03:04.239 And he got a job offer to go to WIBG. 2240 02:03:03.800 --> 02:03:07.079 In Philadelphia, and they had. 2241 02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:10.960 An opening at that radio station. And Albury and Donahue 2242 02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:14.399 had sent him a aircheck of me, a recording which he 2243 02:03:14.439 --> 02:03:19.520 took with him, and he played this for his program director, 2244 02:03:19.600 --> 02:03:20.680 guy named Paul Drew. 2245 02:03:21.520 --> 02:03:22.800 And I got a phone. 2246 02:03:22.520 --> 02:03:27.319 Call out of nowhere saying, hey, we'd like to fly 2247 02:03:27.399 --> 02:03:30.000 you in for a job interview. Now I'm married, I 2248 02:03:30.000 --> 02:03:32.359 had a kid, I'm a senior in college. 2249 02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:33.279 My father is. 2250 02:03:33.239 --> 02:03:40.079 A professor, my mother is a social worker graduate. They 2251 02:03:40.119 --> 02:03:41.800 happened to be out of the country on what was 2252 02:03:42.039 --> 02:03:46.720 a sabbatical in Germany. My in laws one went to 2253 02:03:46.920 --> 02:03:51.640 MIT in Harvard, the other one went to Bassard. The 2254 02:03:51.680 --> 02:03:56.239 idea that I would drop out of college was something 2255 02:03:56.399 --> 02:04:00.720 I never thought of in my wildest dreams. But I 2256 02:04:00.760 --> 02:04:03.319 talked to my professors. I talked to my in laws. 2257 02:04:03.960 --> 02:04:05.880 My professor said, you know, you've got like a half 2258 02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:06.560 a year left. 2259 02:04:07.279 --> 02:04:09.720 This is exactly what you would be looking for in 2260 02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:10.840 six months or whatever. 2261 02:04:11.039 --> 02:04:16.760 Go for it. So I did. And it was terror 2262 02:04:16.840 --> 02:04:19.319 in the beginning because I got this job and the 2263 02:04:19.439 --> 02:04:22.399 guy who ran the station said, we're changing her name 2264 02:04:22.399 --> 02:04:26.439 to Scott Walker, and I'm like, what's going on here? 2265 02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:35.600 And this was a very tightly run, strict, no wiggle 2266 02:04:35.680 --> 02:04:41.279 room format, and I was not very good, to be 2267 02:04:41.319 --> 02:04:44.960 honest with you, I was surprised I wasn't fired. They 2268 02:04:45.039 --> 02:04:48.159 hired me to be on from nine to midnight. That 2269 02:04:48.239 --> 02:04:51.760 got switched to midnight to six, six nights a week. 2270 02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:53.600 Then they put me on noon to three. Then the 2271 02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:57.560 station was sold and that's where things changed. It was 2272 02:04:57.840 --> 02:05:00.880 sold the buckle we broadcasting. They came in with an 2273 02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:02.439 air personnality named Joey. 2274 02:05:02.359 --> 02:05:04.159 Reynolds and it went. 2275 02:05:04.479 --> 02:05:10.720 It went from super tight to anarchy overnight, and I 2276 02:05:10.760 --> 02:05:13.359 went back to being John Records Landecker on the air, 2277 02:05:14.319 --> 02:05:18.479 and we gave the big top forty station in Philadelphia, 2278 02:05:18.560 --> 02:05:23.000 WFIL a huge run for its money, and words spread 2279 02:05:23.199 --> 02:05:24.800 w LS Chicago. 2280 02:05:24.439 --> 02:05:25.399 About what was going on. 2281 02:05:26.239 --> 02:05:27.640 And then I got a call. 2282 02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:31.720 From WLS saying would you send in an air check? 2283 02:05:31.840 --> 02:05:32.720 And that was that. 2284 02:05:34.760 --> 02:05:38.479 So and initially the experiences at Philadelphia was horrible. I 2285 02:05:38.520 --> 02:05:42.840 mean I literally broke down in tears at a motel 2286 02:05:42.880 --> 02:05:46.039 I was staying at while we made the well my family. 2287 02:05:45.760 --> 02:05:46.279 Was going to come. 2288 02:05:46.319 --> 02:05:49.439 I'm like, what did I get myself into? I can't 2289 02:05:49.479 --> 02:05:50.119 do this. 2290 02:05:50.520 --> 02:05:52.600 But it helped, it helped lead into now. 2291 02:05:54.199 --> 02:05:57.680 Yeah, obviously Yeah. 2292 02:05:56.960 --> 02:06:00.520 It Records is truly his middle name. And I wish 2293 02:06:00.600 --> 02:06:02.600 we had more time to talk about that. Put our 2294 02:06:02.680 --> 02:06:04.520 times up and I just. 2295 02:06:05.600 --> 02:06:07.560 Let me say that that is my mother's maiden name. 2296 02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:12.399 Excellent, excellent, John Records Land actor Land Decker on American 2297 02:06:12.520 --> 02:06:15.880 history on the radio. And we'll in honor of the 2298 02:06:15.960 --> 02:06:18.840 boogie check, we'll play a little boogie. We'll play a 2299 02:06:18.840 --> 02:06:20.039 little boogie music out. 2300 02:06:23.479 --> 02:06:27.880 Yeah, a little. 2301 02:06:27.640 --> 02:06:32.720 Cool in the gang. John, thank you so much. 2302 02:06:33.600 --> 02:06:34.319 My pleasure. 2303 02:06:35.359 --> 02:06:39.880 It's the night Cabinet continues on seven hundred w. 2304 02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:40.199 L W. 2305 02:06:41.880 --> 02:06:42.239 Meeting. 2306 02:06:42.319 --> 02:06:44.239 This one of our show is because you look a 2307 02:06:44.279 --> 02:06:47.079 little too much like a wanted serial killer. 2308 02:06:50.439 --> 02:06:51.000 Don't worry. 2309 02:06:51.159 --> 02:06:53.159 You can get the podcast of our shows and here 2310 02:06:53.199 --> 02:06:56.720 what you miss check them out on the iHeartRadio ass 2311 02:06:59.640 --> 02:07:02.640 justin for the new year, the new and improved free 2312 02:07:02.720 --> 02:07:04.960 iHeartRadio app is finally here. 2313 02:07:05.199 --> 02:07:07.680 It's everything you love about radio in the Palmiers. 2314 02:07:07.800 --> 02:07:10.640 My friends will just about do it for this show 2315 02:07:10.800 --> 02:07:14.279 and twenty twenty four. Very happy New Year to you 2316 02:07:14.319 --> 02:07:16.960 and yours. I hope it is a safe and prosperous one, 2317 02:07:17.039 --> 02:07:19.279 and I hope to talk to you many many more 2318 02:07:19.399 --> 02:07:21.880 nights to come here in this slot, at least on 2319 02:07:22.000 --> 02:07:25.479 Monday and Tuesday nights from nine to twelve. Looking forward 2320 02:07:25.520 --> 02:07:30.079 to a few new changes to the nightcap starting next 2321 02:07:30.319 --> 02:07:35.319 Monday night. Until then, break out the hats and hooters. 2322 02:07:35.960 --> 02:07:37.119 Happy New Year. 2323 02:08:55.439 --> 02:09:02.399 News, Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred l J Cincinnati. 2324 02:09:02.880 --> 02:09:05.920 Happy New Year's Day listeners. So what's open? 2325 02:09:06.000 --> 02:09:08.960 Later today with the midnight report in the first one 2326 02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:12.560 of twenty twenty five, I'm Ley Mawin breaking now it's 2327 02:09:12.560 --> 02:09:14.840 to start the new year, So what's open. It's a 2328 02:09:14.840 --> 02:09:18.680 federal holiday, so banks, mail services, government offices, and garbage 2329 02:09:18.720 --> 02:09:21.760 pickup will not happen. Your garbage pickup will be pushed 2330 02:09:21.760 --> 02:09:25.000 back a day. Most Walmart locations will open for New 2331 02:09:25.079 --> 02:09:28.319 Year's Day. Some Kroger stores might close early, however, and 2332 02:09:28.359 --> 02:09:30.960 most of their pharmacies are set to shut by five. 2333 02:09:31.439 --> 02:09:34.239 Target will open today, but some locations might call it 2334 02:09:34.319 --> 02:09:37.840 a day early. Aldi Trader Joe's, Costco, and Sam's Club 2335 02:09:37.880 --> 02:09:41.439 will not open today. Most Walgreens will stay dark. Wednesday, 2336 02:09:41.560 --> 02:09:45.079 CBS will open for limited hours. However, as always, it's 2337 02:09:45.119 --> 02:09:47.840 best practice to call the store or service you need 2338 02:09:48.159 --> 02:09:49.800 to check on their hours. 2339 02:09:50.479 --> 02:09:52.399 Now the latest traffic and weather together. 2340 02:09:52.760 --> 02:09:56.239 The accident on US Route fifty by Chambers underneath the 2341 02:09:56.239 --> 02:10:00.319 I two seventy five Highway has been cleared, so for 2342 02:10:00.359 --> 02:10:02.760 the first time in twenty twenty five, we can say 2343 02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:04.399 you're looking good Cincinnati. 2344 02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:05.199 Now. 2345 02:10:05.279 --> 02:10:08.000 The latest forecast from the No Feared Dentist Weather Center 2346 02:10:08.399 --> 02:10:09.520 Advance Dentistry. 2347 02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:12.119 The thought of the dentist making you a nervous wreck, 2348 02:10:12.319 --> 02:10:15.319 We're here for you. No Fear Dentist dot Com. 2349 02:10:15.399 --> 02:10:18.720 Scattered showers and flurries through the overnights. Temperatures really drop, 2350 02:10:18.840 --> 02:10:21.640 dropping into the low thirties overnight, right around freezing and 2351 02:10:21.760 --> 02:10:24.479 thirty two degrees, and we'll stay chilly throughout New Year's 2352 02:10:24.520 --> 02:10:27.359 Day as well, thirty seven degrees for a high temperature. 2353 02:10:27.359 --> 02:10:30.000 As we ring in twenty twenty five, mostly cloudy skies 2354 02:10:30.000 --> 02:10:32.840 and a few flurries as well. Partly cloudy on Thursday, 2355 02:10:32.920 --> 02:10:35.359 Chili to start twenty six, then up to thirty six 2356 02:10:35.399 --> 02:10:38.039 and then overnight in a Friday equipper system brings us 2357 02:10:38.079 --> 02:10:40.600 a chance at snowshowers early From your Severe Weather station, 2358 02:10:40.680 --> 02:10:42.920 I'm nine first Warning Media rollin just Brandon Spinner News 2359 02:10:43.000 --> 02:10:44.800 Radios seven hundred WLW. 2360 02:10:44.880 --> 02:10:46.439 Most of the rain is breaking up. 2361 02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:50.079 We still have big patches on Clinton County, eastern Warren County, 2362 02:10:50.560 --> 02:10:54.079 northeastern Claremont County. A little snow mixed into Claremont County 2363 02:10:54.119 --> 02:10:56.520 as well, and Brown County, but most of the Tri 2364 02:10:56.640 --> 02:10:57.600 State is now dry. 2365 02:10:57.680 --> 02:10:59.000 It's thirty eight degrees. 2366 02:10:59.560 --> 02:11:02.439 Ava's Yard offering a reward of three thousand dollars for 2367 02:11:02.520 --> 02:11:06.479 information leading to the arrest of two thieves happening Christmas Day. 2368 02:11:06.560 --> 02:11:07.159 Jack's used a