Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice,
mixing some vodka. In a podcast from the Mac of
All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler
Dots Jeep Rahm, It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome, and thank you forgetting your pot on.
Speaker 3: Thanks for telling a friend.
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me a text earlier today.
Speaker 4: Someone sent me.
Speaker 2: A text earlier today that I would say, a text
that said, um, just oh wait see you tonight.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bitch at you. So it's a regular.
Speaker 4: Monday, right, And I wrote for what?
Speaker 3: Just wait? If I tell you it won't be as fun.
It won't be I can't imagine. What'd you want to
picture me about? All right?
Speaker 4: You should know I have an idea. You have an idea. Okay,
what do you think the idea is?
Speaker 3: Why? I don't know. I don't want to say. You just
tell me. Okay, Well you call me at six fifty
nine that Jimmy Fallon was at McConnery's right.
Speaker 4: I don't even like that you're saying that I did that.
Speaker 3: But yes, oh I'm sorry, No, no, I'm sorry, it's okay. Well,
you just throw me, you threw me a bone. No,
I did throw your bone. I tried to. This was cool,
don't get me wrong. Even though he was only there
atill seven thirty.
Speaker 4: Oh is that all he was there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was there five thirty seven thirty. He had
a whole freaking dad like, a whole freaking tour of him.
He stopped at different places. But here's that. That's not
my problem. My problem is is that I asked if
you were going and you said no, okay.
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to the west Side.
Speaker 3: Well, why didn't you tell me? All of a sudden,
I'm going through I worked eleven thirty. I'm sitting there
and all of a sudden, I see your stupid fucking
face and I see Jimmy Fallon and I would have
come down because it was eleven thirty. I would have
made it. He was there to close right. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so you so, as far as I'm concerned, you fail.
I suck hay On a second.
Speaker 2: Here's what I know is and I don't even like
to say this, and I don't want anybody to get
upset with me. I got worried he was in and
where he was right or where he was heading Yes,
So at five point thirty he was not at West Side. Okay,
I'm just telling you, yeah, telling you I was reported, right,
but I'm just saying I don't think that's true. So
I got a hey, we're heading there, and I said,
I'm making chicken chili for my son right now.
Speaker 4: I'm not leaving.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll let you know when we head back. Now,
head back could be we're going to hang out at
X y Z and it's you know, nobody, not many people,
or or it'll be you know, he does what Jimmy does.
So I wasn't sure what that meant. Just so, but
you and I wasn't sure I was gonna go.
Speaker 3: You couldn't. But when you got there, all of a sudden,
you can throw me a text, Hey soldier, I know
you get out at eleven thirty. I didn't know when
you got it. I told you when we were talking
basically basically, you failed miserably. You failed miserably, how because
you should.
Speaker 2: Have used I thought I was doing a solid, telling
you like a solid, I worked Saturday nights and.
Speaker 3: You know it, yes, but I just wanted to They
would have been solid if you said, hey, come on
down to the come down down to the east Side,
come down down here, and I would have come down
there and I would have been happy because I would
have been able to hang in with your group. Basically,
what you is you don't want me and with your
group you don't want me, and you don't think I'm
good enough to hang out with with you. And uh,
you know all the schmos from the East Side that
this is not true at all.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I I well, see the thing is like,
it's not it's somebody's really this guy is such a
good friend. And that's why one of the stories I
posted was Jimmy talking about how he met Damien. Damien's
been on the podcast and we can go back through
I'm not remembering one episode of the top of my head,
but Damien has talked about exactly that story, how they
met and how they became friends. They stayed in contact,
you know, and and remained and this.
Speaker 3: Is before he this is before he.
Speaker 2: This was SNL hel and and Damien didn't know what
SNL was. He was he was just he was from
Ireland and had no idea and and was here basically
like on a green card.
Speaker 4: So it didn't or visa or whatever.
Speaker 3: But it nice for Jimmy to meet the guy that
didn't really know who he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I think like there was a time
where Jimmy told this story in Damien's versions a little different.
He did say like they weren't cell phones, but people
were starting to take pictures and Damien, according to Damien's story,
uh freaked out and said said to Jimmy, Jimmy, he goes,
I'm afraid, like my visas up or something here taking
pictures and he's like, nobody.
Speaker 4: He goes, it's probably me. He goes, are you famous?
And he goes, yeah.
Speaker 2: He goes for what, like he didn't really know, and
he like and he said, I'm on a comedy show
Saturday Night Live. And he's like, are you funny? And
he and even they and Jimmy even said when he
was here, yes, and he would and they just talked
about So here's the thing, like Damien and I know
that this is kind of hard for some people maybe
to believe. Damien has been unbelievably an unbelievable friend to
me and many other people I know for many years,
Like you know that, like help me out when I
was separated would come and get me, always inviting me
down to the cottage, even when I was married. Take
we would do things together, and there was a lot
of stuff. He and I were probably a little closer
than maybe we are now. Everything shifts and changes a
little bit, our time and things. But so I would
never want to overstep with his friendship with Jimmy because
he's very protected with Jimmy. No, no, but but you're right.
The point of Jimmy Cumming is to bring attention to
the bar.
Speaker 3: Right, And it's different. I think I'm different because I'm
I'm with you know, if I go in and hang
out with you, I don't think that that would be
a big deal.
Speaker 4: But no, it wouldn't.
Speaker 3: But so then it goes back, my bitch, I just kidding.
Speaker 2: So I thought, because he was going to be out
close to where you are, I thought I just said, hey, man,
he's there if you want to go over, And I
knew by that point, And you're right, I didn't send.
I did not jump on this right away. I waited
a beat because I figured let word get out. So
then if you're hearing it, hey, did Bill tell you
you go?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I saw it on Facebook. I saw it on Facebook,
you know what I mean. And and so that that.
Speaker 3: Was I saw it on Facebook, and then I text
you that's what happened. Yeah, and then but but.
Speaker 4: I know I called you when said but here.
Speaker 3: The thing is is day I would have actually come out, though.
Speaker 4: Well I did. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what I should have. I should have texted.
I should have made a point of that if he
goes to if he goes to the east Side, I
go out. I'll come out. Well we're gonna meet the
fun Well let's let let's let's let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about this and and fame for a second, because uh,
people lose their ever loving minds around celebrity. They I've
never seen it, and I've seen it several times when
Jimmy's in town. Yeah, several times, grown adults acting feral
for selfie. I mean, that's the only way to describe it.
I'll give you one story. Last time Jimmy was here,
I think, like I don't, I don't. Sometimes there's a
car service, sometimes there's not. And I think they tried.
So they were looking for a bigger car, and a
really good friend of mine had the car had a
car that they and said you can use it. So
they were going up to Iron Smoke in in Fairport. Yeah,
and uh, the guy looks at me, and you know
it was and Jimmy sometimes again, you want to talk
about friendship. He has a handful of really good buddies.
Speaker 3: From high school. Yes, actually he's still friends. I know
a girl that went to high school with them.
Speaker 2: Okay, So he has these people and and some of
those guys, like some of those guys came up for
the grand opening of the of the West Side without
Jimmy at all. So yeah, and they become friends with Damien.
Speaker 3: Does he know you by name? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think it was because he recognized me and said,
you're one of Damien's boys.
Speaker 4: Let me have your phone.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 2: And then when I was up front, were saying, hey, Jude,
together for a second.
Speaker 3: I see you fucking miss everything?
Speaker 2: All right, whatever, it doesn't matter. So what I'm saying
is people get feral. So I had come in to
the bar and I brought my son, who was reluctant
to be there but wanted to see Jimmy. So I
go up to the bar and there's nothing. You know,
it's sort of filling in. It's filling in words, getting
out right and people know. So I have my card
out and I say, may I have a Guinness right too?
Event and they go yeah, and some bartenders will just
keep track and then you get it at the end
of night, so don't I don't know. I'm still holding
my card. All of a sudden, Jimmy comes behind the bar.
You wouldn't believe the behavior. You wouldn't believe it. I'm
standing there and this girl, who I think I'm gonna
guess is underage, I don't know, and she says to me,
I'm small.
Speaker 3: Can I just get right up there?
Speaker 4: And I said, I'm just waiting for a beer. I'll
be out of her way.
Speaker 2: And they were pouring it right, and she's like, well,
I mean. And then Jimmy gets back there and he's
hugging the people behind the bar and high five in
him and you know, he's just polite to everybody.
Speaker 3: Just agreed polite to exactly how he is on the show.
Speaker 2: And she so this person's like, well, I mean, I'm
dying a thirst too, I'm going to get a water
and she wedges her way in and I'm like, oh
my God, and I couldn't believe all of a sudden,
it's like you're pushed up against the bar. So now
I'm sort of trapped. And my point wasn't to be
there for Jimmy. I was standing there to get a beer.
So now the beer's delayed, right, and I think the
one they were porn for me, he took it, started to.
Speaker 4: Drink because I had asked.
Speaker 3: Forget it and I saw the port it. Did you
ever get your guinness?
Speaker 4: I did so? Uh, And then.
Speaker 2: That Jimmy's coming around and he kind of made eye contact,
and I go, I just point to this girl right
who had wedged way in right, He couldn't have been
nicer to her. She He gives her a hug, He
does all this, he she leans over the bar. They
take a selfie. He took my phone out and did
a selfie, a video and a selfie for with me
but and my son. And then but while I'm standing there,
a woman about my age trying to get her daughter
who's like in her twenties.
Speaker 4: And I was amazed at the number of women that
were there.
Speaker 3: Seeing another another fail Bill.
Speaker 2: And he and she like all of a sudden goes, yeah,
get in there. Get in there, she saying to her daughter.
And I was like, mom, i'll be I'll be fine.
And the mother goes, no, get in there, and she
puts her hand on my ribs and push and I
don't move. And I turn around and go, did you
just push me? And she's like, no, I didn't push you.
I go, the fuck you didn't. I go, I'm getting
a beer. I'll be out of your way.
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loved this guy at night, Mark Boulger, because Mark would
do things like he was building the world's largest meatball
in the parking lot. And then he had word builder Bob,
who was just some guy call up and I just
found it, like I was like I was I was
like ten nine, ten years old. I'm like, this is
the greatest shit in the world. Who are these guys?
But then as I got older, the cool station became
the rock station, right and they had the best morning
show in Poughkeepsie and all that.
Speaker 3: So now.
Speaker 2: I get to college and I my parents didn't play
a lot of music, you know, they just didn't. And
you didn't know the artist. You knew maybe the top
forty songs and things and what was on the time.
At the eighties, even def Leppard had crossed over. They
were being played on top forty stations and shit like that,
so you knew all that stuff. I get to the
I wound up working at an AM station that is
the sister station to the big rocker in town with
the cool morning show and all that stuff, and I.
Speaker 4: Really want to be over there.
Speaker 2: And I'm like nineteen years old, And after like two
months of kind of hanging out doing the filling in
for the morning show on the original hit so the forties,
fifties and sixties, they come to me and go, hey,
would you like to do midnight to six am Saturday
night into Sunday morning.
Speaker 3: Well, and they used to have live DJ's, live.
Speaker 2: DJ's twenty four hours a day, so I go sure.
So now I get in there, and I don't know
the music that well.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I was also in college and I was working at
a deli and I used to always lose the name
that tune whenever, and they'd listen to that rock station
once they started working there. I was fucking cleaning up now, right,
But so this.
Speaker 4: Is true story.
Speaker 2: So I'm taking to think about this Saturday night a
rock station.
Speaker 3: Most people have it on, they're drinking their partying.
Speaker 2: Right, It's like and it's it's nineteen ninety one, so right,
there's no we don't have social media, we can't write ever.
Speaker 4: Call the DJ.
Speaker 2: Let's call the DJ and get a song played, and
they'd be worm man bray his song. So I was like, fuck, man,
this is my opportunity. I could tape the phone calls,
I can do all this shit. And I get a
request and I figure, I don't know if they left
me a slot that I could play a request or
I just went rogue. I probably just went rogue because
I was so excited just to talk to people and
have people hear me. I thought, this is the coolest
thing in the fucking world. So somebody says, can you played.
Dan Fogelberg, leader of the band. Okay, are you familiar
with that song? Dan Fogelberg, leader of the band. No,
it's the leader of the band has died. But it's
I think it's leader of the band. Is the name
of the song?
Speaker 3: Is it the Christmas One?
Speaker 4: No? No, I know the one? You mean?
Speaker 2: I will play this for you now. I want you
to remember. I want you to remember that this is
let's see, Okay, this is from This is a Saturday
night and I'm just in there, so it's still I mean,
for most people, it's still Saturday night, even though we're
into Sunday morning. It's like twelve thirty, right, and they're
they're raging, these people, and somebody calls up and asks
for this song, and I'm excited. So I have to
find it, and I find it on vinyl.
Speaker 4: You please?
Speaker 3: This in a rocky I do know the song, Okay,
So I know this is yacht Rader.
Speaker 4: This is what yeah right is?
Speaker 2: I don't even know right, I don't really know, but
I'm like, oh, I think I know that song.
Speaker 4: I think my mom likes it.
Speaker 2: I think I don't rock station. When they're looking for
fucking Metallica, the Stones, they're looking for something with balls
and I put this on the fucking phonees light up,
you get this off to I'm all like embarrassed.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: I'm like having a panic attack by myself at like
quarter to one on a Sunday morning at nineteen, going.
Speaker 3: What do I do? What do I do?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Why? What do I do?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: That's great? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah. Because I didn't know music, right, I didn't know
and and so I was like.
Speaker 3: Listen to it. I mean you listen to your ship first.
Speaker 4: No, I just because it was on an album.
Speaker 2: Now remember albums that you had to play it right,
and then he had to back it up a quarter
of return, so you didn't get the warrant as in
now am starts if you and Vinyls becoming popular again.
You started at the beginning of the song and goes
want as it catches up to seventy five or forty
five or thirty three RPMs, and so you backed it
up and then it would you would do it and
you were trying to mix it, so it just.
Speaker 3: Kind of flowed from one to the other.
Speaker 2: And I used to love doing it when I had
two live cuts back to back and I would just
make it sound like it was a real concert because
I remember a buddy of mine going.
Speaker 3: I thought for sure you went to the bathroom or something. Dude.
Speaker 2: I just kept hearing the crowd here and then all
of a sudden, here comes another song, and like that
was when I had a little more confidence.
Speaker 4: But this I was shitting my pansts.
Speaker 2: I thought people were gonna come down to the radio
station and throw fucking rocks through the window.
Speaker 4: I thought they were gonna cut I was like, in
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Speaker 4: NOW i know.
Speaker 2: What you're saying is when we give everybody a, TROPHY.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen.
Speaker 2: Well, NOW i have seen, that but it's usually like
really little, kids, Right AND i thought it, was, LIKE
i don't, know it was when my boys were really,
little and then later on they stopped doing, that BUT
i thought it was when they were like five.
Speaker 4: Or eight or.
Speaker 2: Whatever but they also gave out awards for the kid
who scored the most goals and all. That so you
got not just the trophy for showing up every day
and putting yourself into, it you also got the the
you scored the most.
Speaker 4: Goals.
Speaker 2: Mark bill doesn't get that Because bill scored the most
goals at least in the teams THAT i, experienced and
that was twenty something years. AGO i don't know that
things have changed, now BUT i would say that is
it terrible to give every kid who came out to
every practice at four or five years old a.
Speaker 4: TROPHY i don't think it.
Speaker 2: IS i THINK i think it's one of these things
where maybe you get them to, go hey, MAN i
want to do that.
Speaker 4: AGAIN i like the.
Speaker 2: TROPHY i earned. SOMETHING i did, THIS i enjoyed, it
and maybe you keep. Going at some point point it does.
STOP i don't think they're doing it in high school for.
SURE i don't think they're doing it ON aau. TEAMS
i don't think they're doing so it ends so always
that that argument to me is always LIKE i just
feel like it's myopic and.
Speaker 3: You're, teaching you're teaching the kids young that they can't
you know that.
Speaker 2: The point is that we don't have a, Meritocracy like
you're not earning.
Speaker 4: It you're not you're not going out there and earning.
It AND i, GO i. DON'T i. DISAGREE i disagree
with four or. Five it should be about learning the.
Speaker 1: Game.
Speaker 3: Anyway they finished the whole season like fucking.
Speaker 2: Puppies, RIGHT i mean that's how they, are so. Okay you, know,
LOOK i got an eight year old. Nephew he's on
a ski. Team my brother sent me a video of
him slalom, skiing. Right AND i don't think that there's
gonna be a participation trophy for every kid that was
on the. TEAM i, KNOW i really, don't AND i
don't think that that's even a thought in anybody's. HEAD
i don't think it's done to make a. POINT i
don't think it's done not to make a. POINT i
just think that that's. IT i think when they're really,
little give to him just for coming, out he thanks
for being part of, yes you, know and then if you,
CAN i, agree give the little extra to the kid
that really like you, know you don't know how much.
Speaker 3: Debt helps a kid be holding onto that.
Speaker 4: Trop did you change your opinion on? THAT i.
Speaker 3: DID i actually agreed with. WHAT i actually agreed with
What Kid rock was. Saying AND i get what.
Speaker 2: TOTALLY i get it, Too BUT i DON'T i just
giving somebody giving it a kid giving a, Kid AND
i get it at nine and we you, know now
you're in a little league WHEN i was, nine and
this was the difference AND i AND i think they
still they still do. It maybe they, don't BUT i
thought it like by, nine my town little, league you got.
Cut there were, tryouts you got, cut AND i remember
a neighbor girl said to, me you're not going to make.
It my brothers didn't make it at, nine AND i
was so fucking happy WHEN i.
Speaker 3: Did but only two kids made.
Speaker 2: It right, NOW i will also say, this you want
to talk about soft and a.
Speaker 4: PUSSY i didn't.
Speaker 2: Try out for basketball BECAUSE i KNEW i wasn't that
good AND i was probably gonna get, cut AND i
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LIKE i never played a lot of organized basketball up
until being able, to you, know try out for THE jv,
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passed The New York state test to be on varsity
in certain, sports BUT i KNEW i sucked at, basketball
AND i never tried. Out AND i still think that's
one of the worst THINGS i ever, did because learning.
Speaker 4: To handle that kind of rejection is.
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Speaker 3: SMALL i like SEEING i like seeing radio die because
all my friends are out of it. Now most of
my friends are out of it. NOW i the death
That i'm, seeing it's slowly. Dying, YEAH i still, MAN
i still. Go if you brought it back more.
Speaker 4: Local you.
Speaker 2: Could you could have something that that would be viable
and something to, people and it would have to be
more spoken. Word nobody gives a. Ship you can get
your music, anywhere uh.
Speaker 3: Call it to be able to call a radio station
and request a. Song, yeah kids. DON'T i was talking
WHEN i was talking to the kids about, this because
they all, know you, know they all know THAT i
was you, KNOW i told, THEM i told him about
what my track record. WAS i was in, radio AND
i was telling them about calling up sitting sitting all
night waiting for the song that you called. Up you
called up THE, dj wait and, rest and you would
sit up all night just to hear that.
Speaker 4: Song.
Speaker 3: Right and then when you, know when they give away,
prizes you they give a concent, ticket you would sit
there and. Listen it was just a different. Thing they
don't have that. Anymore it was very.
Speaker 2: Excited well because social media and stuff has changed it
and now it's NOT i don't know where do you win.
Speaker 4: Tickets.
Speaker 2: Maybe i'm sure they still do that with. Radio i'm
sure that's still an incentive for. People BUT i think
that most people are getting the music that they. Want
i've had a guy who was in my, mind one
of the best to program radio stations play what people
were going to like and respond. To and he said to,
me YouTube music does a better job THAN i could
have ever done with all the research in the.
Speaker 3: World you see What i'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, so, like now we've gotten to the point WHERE
ai just does it, better picks what you.
Speaker 3: Like i'll go home And i'll THROW i, Mean i'll
drive home And i'll throw on The Mark hillman channel
and it'll. Play it'll play, country it'll play, metal it'll
play you, Know Barry, manilo it all play all this
stuff that it knows THAT i, like.
Speaker 2: Right and so that's What i'm, Saying, Like i'm not
sure about, music BUT i do think if you went
back to a talk format that was talk talking about
local stuff in your, PLACE.
Speaker 3: I, mean like like what weise was and these, was
and they out and and they didn't want him.
Speaker 4: Anymore, YEAH i think that there was a they.
Speaker 3: Thought putting you, know they thought putting a ship format
on was more important than freaking a guy that was
the guy that did radio for forty. YEARS i don't,
Know i'm pissed. Off and when you see we.
Speaker 4: Were kind OF i should reach out to. HIM i haven't.
Speaker 3: Watched there's a video that's going that's around and it
shows his last his last few hours on the, radio
and it's very very, disturbing and especially us because that's
how most of us you, know you know how what
it's like all of a, sudden you, know for that
to be given up on all of a, sudden it's like, see,
uh you know you're and they just did, it AND
i just don't like the way they did, it especially
for all the money that he made these channels all these,
years and they don't Get i'm a send. Off fuck.
You you know What i'm. Saying it's, like fuck.
Speaker 4: You it Was.
Speaker 2: I'll say, this AND i WOULD i would say it
two weeks from WHAT i know of behind the scenes
stuff THAT i was, told like there were what they
believed an agreement in, place that he had agreed to
do something, Okay and what was happening was the whole
station was going right.
Speaker 4: Down the, shitter and it was it just it just
wasn't viable, anymore.
Speaker 3: Right, Right so it was never the same when you.
Left maybe maybe. NOT i have no. IDEA i.
Speaker 2: Can't i'm that it's not What i'm saying, No i'm just,
saying but like he's not really doing mornings. Anymore he's
at the. End he's not in the studio, here he's
remote a lot of. Times i'm not saying that that's
bad at. All i'm just, saying so the things had
died down and he was getting close to the end
of doing, it just doing it just because why you,
know and everybody retires at some, point so it was
like that was.
Speaker 3: It, however.
Speaker 2: SO i think that's how management is seeing, things and
then they're, like, well what do we do because it's
so bad? Now do we wait and just push this
out for a few more months and lose, money or
do we try to hit the new year running and, go,
well here we are and hit first quarter and get
into things. Better AND i think that's the decision they,
made thinking they had appeased.
Speaker 3: Or made some. Agreement i'm telling you that's HOW i.
Speaker 2: Think WHAT i will say to you is THAT i
agree it was the poorest. Execution Brother wee's was not
a guy who was going to really beat his own
chest or be his own advocate in certain. Situations he
would sometimes and you're gonna hear, this and he may hear,
this and it's not meant this. WAY i have some
like real stories where he just didn't advocate For wee'z
because he wanted to be, syndicated, right he wanted to be.
SYNDICATED i believe he had a program that absolutely could
have been. Syndicated, yes but he wasn't gonna be the
guy to champion. That Brother weise wasn't a. Businessman Brother
weis was a. Personality Howard stern is a, businessman AND
i know that that sounds, weird, yes but the long
hair was to make himself look. Better he was a shock.
Jock he went to bed by eight o'clock every. Night
he worked it and did. That not That we's. Didn't
wee'z's best stuff Was wee's living his fucking insane.
Speaker 3: Life. Right it's the greatest stuff.
Speaker 2: Ever all the, stories some of the legendary stories that,
happened everything that went on in his life came to the,
radio even Like sammy being left at the, bus his
whole cancer, battle the kids falling up and, crying like
all that. Stuff you cannot no one can duplicate. That
Brother weez was unduplicatable. Period, however he didn't want to
do the work that the business side. Required so years,
later he AND i.
Speaker 4: Go to this big radio.
Speaker 2: Thing it was Called Morning show Boot, camp and we're
meeting with his, agent who has since. Passed and the
guy was also the agent For opie And anthony And,
No Howard lapedes was a, manager not an agent so,
much AND i think he. Did he was like the
owner of The Man. Show that's why they had The
Man Show round. Two and it Was Joe rogan and.
Speaker 4: God who's thegether comic that did?
Speaker 2: It No, corolla he was the, original but that Was Howard.
Lapedes And howard also was the guy who Took Carson
dally off UH K rock IN la and Now Carson
dally whether he wants to agree with it or, not
the first exposure to television AND mtv came From Howard,
lapidis who and now the guy's on The Today, SHOW
i believe right today AND i think he's stills radio. Stuff,
okay so all that shit came out of Of. Howard
but this guy Was Opiing anthony's, agent AND i my
wife at the, time AND i sat down because we
wanted to be, syndicated and they were doing a panel
at this thing where guys were coming up and, saying
how do you know what they did to maintain their? Syndication,
okay because there's a lot throughout the. Country one of
the People brother we talked about for years and loved
was a guy Named Kid, kratick WHO i had gotten
to know a little bit, too and has since.
Speaker 3: Passed.
Speaker 2: Uh But kidd owned and syndicated his own. Show But
kid would literally work himself to the point where he
was ill AND i have to take off like you
would get, bronchitis so. Bait but he would just not,
sleep and he would just work.
Speaker 4: And work and.
Speaker 2: Work so my wife really helps, me AND i should
say probably more than.
Speaker 4: Me put this syndication package. Together it was.
Speaker 2: EXCELLENT i present it over breakfast to his. Agent his
agent looks at it and, goes this is. Great he,
goes do you mind IF i steal some of this
For opie And anthony to format their? Thing he, GOES
i think this is so. GOOD i would like to.
Speaker 4: Use the format for Own a who then did go into. Syndication.
Speaker 3: RIGHT i go With.
Speaker 4: Brother we's to the syndication.
Speaker 2: Panel we're sitting, there guys come out and, go, hey
We're bubba and, somebody you, know we're on a bunch
of markets in The. South and one guy, goes, YEAH
i got my pilot's, license so we could just fly
into some of the. Markets like it's weren't different parts Of, Texas,
louisiana blah blah. Blah so we would go for a,
day we would go to the, station we'll do a,
broadcast we'll do a thing that, night, whatever and then
the next day it just hop in the plane AND
i fly home SO i can be with my. Family another,
guy another guy gets up and he's he's an urban
station or on urban. Stations we could call. It what
it is was black right, people mostly to black, people urban.
Stations so this guy gets up and, goes, YEAH i
got this, show and we're, syndicated and we're down, here
and we're based In, atlanta but we're.
Speaker 3: On all these other.
Speaker 2: PLACES i have designed basically a tour, boss and we
will go town to town and do. Things and every
weekend we're in some other town making an appearance or.
Whatever and all of a, SUDDEN i, hear, brah, bruh
it is too much work for the. Weason i'm gonna
go outside of me and listen to this, shit AND
i knew right then and there fucking syndication was. Over
so What i'm trying to say is he needed somebody
to handle the business. Side he was as, good if
not better than anybody who sat behind a. MICROPHONE i
will not dispute that he wasn't good at the business.
Side he didn't want to deal with, it and that's
what he, needed was somebody who could do. That and
that was sort of WHO i was for him a little,
bit and we got him. On he was on WHILE
i was producing the. Show we were on In, buffalo
and they would tape delay the show right so they
would run After, howard so it Was Howard Brother weez
and THEN i forget what the APP i might have
Been ona in the, AFTERNOON i don't even. Know that
was the talk format In, buffalo and it was going,
well and it was doing, well and it was like,
okay AND i was trying to get him on In
syracuse AND i remember this guy going to, ME i,
go you've got people in two different cities that this
company AND i don't remember what company, was was trying
to bring together to do a morning. Show they were
like one guy was IN i don't, Know vermont and
another guy's In, philly and they were talking like they
were in the same, studio but they. Weren't it's CALLED isdn.
Lines AND i said the, guy he, goes, well how
would you deliver the show.
Speaker 4: To us In?
Speaker 2: SYRACUSE i SAID. Dn he, Goes we're already paying FOR.
DN i, go, no you're paying for two. Dns he,
goes WHAT i, go you got two guys in two
different cities doing your morning.
Speaker 4: Show you're paying for TWO.
Speaker 2: DNS i, go you'd be paying for ONE Dn with
the brother we show and he'll come down and do
appearances and.
Speaker 4: Things that's an hour.
Speaker 2: Away and the guy was sort of like back on
his heels a little. Bit and THEN i don't know
whatever happened to it after, that But i'll just NEVER
i just knew there wasn't gonna happen when we's leaned
over and, goes bro the is too much for The
Weeds And i'm not you know him right, Right i'm
not making that story.
Speaker 3: Up that's a real.
Speaker 2: Story and my only point with it, is so, now
what should have happened is we should have, said at some,
point this is my last year to them, right this
is my last, year or someone From weesus camp he
is gonna, Leave let's send him.
Speaker 3: Out on the biggest thing.
Speaker 2: Ever let's get every, personality every celebrity who's ever been
on his show to call, in video, in fly in
if we. Can let's have a huge send. Off let's
do a live. Show let's rent out a fucking theater
and let's do the last show. Live it'll be the
biggest thing and we can sell the shit out of
it and make a ton of. Money that's what they
should have, done and they didn't fucking do. It And
i'll say part of the reason they didn't do it
is because the company that owns them now is too,
big and everybody is working multiple. Jobs the person in
charge Of rochester is in part charge Of, Rochester, Syracuse,
albany And.
Speaker 3: SUSSEX i don't miss. THAT i don't miss.
Speaker 2: That mean, So i'm just, saying like so they're not
thinking that, way but somebody From weez's camp should have, gone, hey,
man this guy has meant so much to this city
that he's, in that he originated. In he's meant so
much he HAD i, mean who there's No Sam Kennison
kennison was, like he was tight With howard And, weez
AND i think he Liked wee's. More if he was In,
toronto he came down and did THE We. Show if
he was In, syracuse he came up and did THE We.
Show if he was In rach Obviously, buffalo he would
always come to The Wei show and do that. Show
he loved brother. We'z that is a. Personality that's a
warmth that Brother we's. HAD i don't know Why i'm
ranting on my podcast about, this BUT i get passionate.
Too BUT i can see both. SIDES i get it
management has their head up their ass because they're spread
too thin. Now But we'z was also the guy that
didn't work the business, side and so you get that's
where the problem. Lies AND i wish there was somebody
on his team that had walked over and, gone this is, it.
Man we're talking to a fucking, legend, literally a radio.
Speaker 3: LEGEND i think that the management should that should.
Speaker 4: Have Been, NO i don't think they think that.
Speaker 2: Way AND i think that some of them were too
new and didn't know and are so caught, up and,
yes should they Have, yes from a business, side that
makes fucking.
Speaker 3: Money, yes they should. Have you are.
Speaker 5: Right the persons there has been has been there for
he knows the value of what this, was BUT i
think it was also is getting is getting pressure from,
above that's.
Speaker 4: Going what happened?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: Guys you're not even fucking close to meeting your. Budget
this whole station's in the fucking. Toilet the ratings are
the Worst i've ever. Seen, WELL i even turn on
the fucking. Microphones what are we doing? Here AND i
think that that kind of thinking fucks up their head
and it should have been done, Differently and they could
have Had i'm telling, you, man you rent out that
you could have rented out The Kodak theater that maybe
you know a little, bit but you could have had
a just a fucking beautiful send, off a really, amazing amazing.
Speaker 4: Tribute and that's the that's the miss that to, me
that's the.
Speaker 2: Miss right and that and now you've got two factions
of a of a thing that some that the little
point fingers can call each other.
Speaker 4: Assholes yeah you, know so all, right we'll wrap it. Up,
SORRY i didn't mean.
Speaker 3: To, no it's, Good, no it's good because it was
really pissing me.
Speaker 2: Off, WELL i mean it should AND i get, it
BUT i also say a little bit and nobody else
will say this is it's a little bit on him
and his team of.
Speaker 4: PEOPLE i knew what he. Was it's do want to
work for the? Weeks.
Speaker 3: OKAY i can hear him saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah but he leaned over and then he got up
and left the fucking, conference just walked, out just walked.
Speaker 3: Out And i'm sitting there going the. Fuck we just
put together the syndication. Package it took for fucking ever to.
Do it was so. Good your agent's using it FOR
o AND. A they're in the number one radio Market.
Speaker 2: New York, city and you're not gonna do this and
this is all you wanted to, do.
Speaker 4: You know WHAT i?
Speaker 2: Mean but, EVERYONE i got my pilot's, License we fly
to This.
Speaker 3: MARIO i bought a.
Speaker 2: Bus we decorated it with all our, faces were all
that we drive the school duck.
Speaker 3: Towns him going out of a. Bus, no but, yeah
you know What i'm. SAYING i, mean it's just it
was the way it.
Speaker 2: Was and that's All i'm saying is he wasn't going
to do that and in this and WHEN i see
what happened at the end AND i called him AND i.
Speaker 3: Think it was it was a Huge let's put it this.
Speaker 2: WAY i can say it's, criminal it, hurts it's all that.
Stuff let's take feelings out of. It let's just talk.
Business they fucked up an opportunity for them to make
a lot of.
Speaker 4: Money they.
Speaker 2: Did they fucked up an, opportunity and so good for.
Wheeze And i'm glad he's telling his side of, things
and you.
Speaker 4: Know to hold back, Now, mark absolutely, not absolutely not
for the.
Speaker 2: Soldier this is. Fun, yeah, Yes i'm glad to hear. That, yes,
yes we did have. Fun I'm Bill. Moran we'll see
you tomorrow and