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This is surely going to be one of the things
we are judged most harshly for in our time. You
know everything from you know of all the myriad of
issues that we face in our time, whether it's like
mass immigration trouning out all the decrease in religiosity in
the United States. This one truly is going to be
one of the most horrible ones. And we're going to
talk about the subject of abortion is coming up on
the one year now since Roe v. Wade was overturned,
which you know, many people in the pro life and
move thought it was just impossible, you know, it could
never be done. But Donald Trump, you know, they did
do that. So credit where credit is due on that one.
And then of course this weekend there will be plenty
of guys who are going to be heading to the
March for Life in Washington, d C. This weekend as well.
So what do we think just in the year out
since Roe versus Wade has actually been overturned, It's actually
kind of been a bit of a quiet topic in
the last year because you know, massive vibration, foreign policy
whatever's kind of taking the front stage. But I don't know,
maybe we could just start around the horn here and
just see, like you know, I mean, well, Pete, you're
in the South, so I mean not too much as
a releast like a free flowing abortion state you know,
down there, but well, do you think that this is
something that it just seems to me like this issue
has just gone by the wayside and thinking of most people.
But it really got a resurgence this last week in
Virginia when Spamburger just came in in Emiate's like, oh, nope,
we're gonna put abortions up till birth on the ballot
this fall for the vote. So I think this story
is coming back with a vengeance.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean down here, it's not if people were
getting it down here, they weren't really advertising them. You know,
no one's bragging about it. And yeah, I mean I
don't know how much of a change it has made.
You don't read a lot of articles about it since
it went since since Rowe went away. You know, I
don't know. Oh I don't know that I've noticed much
of anything. I do follow Alabama news a lot, and
this really just just not mentioned. And when it was overturned,
I mean, yeah, a lot of people, you know, churches celebrated,
but then they just went right back to right back
to business as usual. So yeah, I mean, you're not
going to have any protests here. Yeah, you're not going
to have If you do have people protesting here. It's
going to be five people and it's going to be
like old white Libs from who live in like Hoover, Yeah,
right outside of Birmingham. So yeah, not a lot here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tim, do you have any thoughts on this manager
just on the local level or state level for abortion?
Speaker 3: Well, just not to spare out, but the Dobbs decision
came down in twenty twenty two and so coming up
in almost will be four years this this spring, but
the revaid was reversed. Roveray of course was pasted Janey
twenty second, nineteen seventy three. So this is the anniversary
of that landmark decision and also it's companion ruling Dough
Dough versus Bolton. There's always been a certain geography to abortion,
and you could say that Rovirado was imposition of New
York and California abortion law and the rest of the
country and that geography doesn't really change much. You know,
where people go get abortions, it's always it's a basically
it's a left coast east coast phenomena. There's some fly
over your country is like Illinois was a very liberal
there's some but right now as it stands, now twenty
twenty six, there are fourteen states that have you know,
total bands Alabama big one of them, Texas with the
exception of for life, and of course there's California, New
York which to try and protection via statutes in the constitution.
So it's abortion itself again. It's obviously it's a it's
a it's a crime, it's a horrible thing. But it's
also a symptom of something. It's a symptom of a book.
The culture death, which expresses most of it, expresses itself
most primarly in the idea of sexual liberation. Obviously, sexual
intercourse has a unit of inprocateive function, and often when
people have sexual intercourse, a human being is created, a
child is created, and that child is a reminder that
there's no such thing as sexual liberation or sexual freedom,
because there's always consequences for one's actions, and from those
actions there there there's responsibilities, and so it's a try. Inevitably,
when you when in the nineteen sixties, when I think
it started to get broad cultural appeal to sexual revolution,
the idea of sexual freedom with normalization and proliferation pornography,
abortion was inevitable really given the cultural trends, the cultural
war that was being waged abortion itself. The Roe Vway decision,
of course, was preceded by the Griswold decision Griswold versus Connecticut,
which the student court discovered a right to a contraception
under the guise of the right to privacy, and then
they immediately started publicly funding contraception, meaning it wasn't a
private matter at all. It's a very public matter because
tax payer dollars used to pay for it. The same
thing occurred with abortion, notwithstanding the High Amendment. So that's
where we stand. It's done its damage. I don't know
how many deaths are there, sixty million maybe in the
United States.
Speaker 1: I was about that much when I was last looking
at the numbers. Yea, sixty to sixty five million.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because you look at issues like massim McGray,
the Great Replacement, and you can't separate it from abortion
because quite frankly, we look at the plummeting birth rates
throughout the West. All that was of course preceded by
liberalized abortion laws. And so you could say that the
embrace of legalized abortion by the West was a sign
that the West and stuff didn't want to live anymore,
and so they embraced sexual libration and sexual freedom, contraception
and abortion, and the birth rates of plummet, and of
course God will not be mocked, and nature pours a vacuum.
And as a result of that, we're told that we
need people to come in and you know, fill the
breach with cheap labor. And that's what you know, what's
happening in Europe and Ireland, the United States? I think
it was it was Chuck Schumer, who I think a
year or so ago, was outside the capital, I think,
campaigning or promoting in a press conference the what's that
immigration thing, the American Dream Act DREAMAC? Was it DREAMAC?
And he said it's necessary to bring people in from
there from the four corners of the world because American's
sister aren't having children anymore. Well, why is that, Chuck?
Speaker 1: So yeah, so they feature the pilp poison and then
try to sell you the carr and the carre is
just more poison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's initially, that's all I have to say.
I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, it's interesting you mentioned the Angle for
mass immigration about this, because I saw our friend across
the Pond. Mister Carl Benjamin actually did a video about
this this week because the new abortion numbers came in
for England.
Speaker 3: I saw that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where they just had a sharp increase in abortions
in the last two years. And it's actually almost identical
the number of abortions versus the number of well allegedly
illegal immigrants that they have caught and they found in
the UK. I mean, they're letting it way more people
through legal meet it's like legal migrants. But it was
actually crazy when he was doing the math that it
was almost one to one with the illegal immigrants that
they have caught in the UK versus the amount of
abortions that they had in a year, which is just nuts.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And like I said, how do you claim a
birth rate if you're not giving birth right and so
I mean you can say it's karma or it's God's
you know wrath. Ireland embraced abortion in twenty eighteen with
a referend and also embraced same sex marriage. That is
a symptom sort of of Irish people's declining Catholic faith.
And I would say again, if there is a society
that at a high birth rate, or even a replacement
level birth rate would be a symptom of a society
that has faith in the future and also has the
resiliency and the will to defend itself. And again, it's
one of things. It's not an im it's not an
obvious connection. But if you really think about there's action.
If you are aborting your next generation, you will be
should be replaced because you're simply not there to stake
to maintain the claim on the land that you claim
is yours.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's another thing here as well. Like
I know, there's a lot of popular arguments in our
side of things about people saying, well, you know, actually
it's good that we keep this legal because you know,
a large portion of abortions come from you know, minority communities,
and we don't want you know, more of these people
running around in our society. So abortion should be remain legal.
But I mean, if you're just looking at the pure numbers,
you know, if you already to trust this argument, I mean,
since it became legal in the United States, the majority
of the people who haven't been aboarded were white people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to look at you have to look
at dynamically because First of all, the fact that so
many women are having abortions, it radiates to other issues
and other cultural issues. We have the same women that
are that you know that Will and Illy go out
and bought their unborn and Charlvelen are the same women
that go up to show up at anti ice protests in
many respects or at least support it. And so you
just can't look at that. Another thing is there's no
there's no uh progress outside the moral law, and there's
no shortcut. So uh again, embracing and fantaside to solve
the demographic problem is to me an attempted shortcut, and
it's not. There's other things you can do, obviously, the
health uh and the continuation Western civilization that should not
depend on killing other people in in other countries or
minority people in your own country that you've let in.
That's that's to me, that's sort of a uh again,
that's that's uh. You're you're not accepting responsibility for your
own decisions. If you start doing that, you know, and
a lot of those people again are living I think
if you embrace that attitude, you're yourself are probably living
a dissolute life. And then you have to look in
the mirror and say, am I part of the problem?
You know? You know?
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I I just find it very very difficult
to uh take take that argument really seriously from you
really just can't tell me that the solution is just, oh,
we just got to kill more like black and black
and brown babies in the United States, Yeah, to fix
our problems. Like come on, man, really, you know this
just this just doesn't pass the smell test to me.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I saw it. There was a post. I
saw there was by uh black pilled.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm I'm sure I know where he comes
out on the subject.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. Actually he doesn't. He's against he said that. Yeah, yeah,
because he's not. I like him. Actually I don't never talk,
but I like him. I like him, I like I
like his online personality. But he is, you know, he's
a former Mormon, So there you go. But anyway, he
was lamenting the fact that the Catholic Church was only
globally thirty percent white, and I go and I sent him,
I sent him a twit tweet. I said, you do
you don't understand the Catholic Church is universal, you know?
And I said, you might want to now if you
want to, if now, if you want to reprove those numbers,
why don't you get baptized and convert? Because that's again
you're you're again, you're you're dealing with the symptom of
another problem. You're not dealing it properly, if you're if
you're and again he doesn't advocate abortion to solve the
demographic issue. There's other things, those far humane and moral
things you can do rather than you know, resorting to
in fantaside to solve your demographic problems because some of you,
your people have decided not to procreate it anymore for
whatever reason, you know.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, Yeah, there's not other thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's not. It's like, I think
the biggest thing is it's a sign of decadence. It's
almost it's also a sign of decadence that we have
so many women in politics because there's no more because
you can either get have patriarchy or give anarchy, and
in the name of liberty, we've chosen moral anarchy. And
that's why you're so many these crazy women in politics,
like you know, Abigail Spamberg, who's just the emblematic of
these sort of these affluent, suburban you know, boxed wine
guzzling women, they get into politics, you know, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and then there's this, I mean, I'm sure this
is where the it was an edible of this stream
in this discussion was going to lean in this direction
at some point. But nothing else will motivate women to
go out into the polls. Then the abortion issue. And
there's a lot of things going on with this one.
I mean, you know, we can go back to our
you know, basic like you know, red pill, like manaster
your talking points one on one here, and you just
understand that like, well, abortion is like the ultimate expression
of like hypergamy and the ultimate way for women to
get out of you know, bad decisions since she's made.
But that doesn't also, that doesn't quite account for the
fact that why is it that women who would never
get an abortion or choose in an abortion still turn
out and droves too, you know, enshrine this so called
right into law in so many places, Like why is
this the huge you know, animating issue for women even
if they themselves then will participate in this thing? And
you know, there's a lot of questions there. But one
of the things I think is a big part of
this is just that, uh, the entire women's rights whatever,
you know. I mean, you can argue if that should
ever take a place in the first place, obviously everyone
here would say no. But the whole kind of meme
of women's rights has been wrapped up in all, well,
if they take away one thing from us, they're coming
for everything else. You know. It's like, oh, we're one
step away from the Handmaid's Tales. So very productive, is
very productive propaganda for the left because I mean, just
look at the results, right, I mean, we all know
the real women aren't necessarily the most rational thinkers, but
you know, you know, you know, guys, they're kind of
like children. You know, it's like if you take the
if they just don't want the toy taken away from them.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a certain yeah, there's a certain level
in narcissism there too, you know. I posted something on
on Twitter today was from a recent nursing textbook, and
it was talking they were focusing on diversity and culture
cultural differences in response to pain and under this certain
group we call the Jews. It says they may be
vocal and demanding of assistance, but they believe that pain
must be shared and validated by others. And I immediately thought, oh,
so there's just women, And I mean, that's exactly that's
what That's Another thing about the whole abortion thing is
is like, Okay, I'm doing this thing. I know deep down,
I'm hurting myself, but you if you're not willing to,
if people aren't willing to embrace what they're feeling, then
they're going to have a response. They're going to find
another response. And it seems like the way they've coped
with this, with the horror of what they're doing, is
by turning it into a positive and celebrating it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you watch the type of shows, to
me that's popular with particularly single women, because I know
I run in other circles and I've run often. I
go to like events at my children's school, and I
run into women who have multiple children. And you want
to talk about women that are that are based, These
are because they have children, their families, their responsibilities, and
they're not neurotic and insane like so many these single
women who have sort of put off their you know,
put off having children. They don't they're not they don't
have these things that complement their female nature, the nurturing nature.
They go there out there being sort of brutalized at
work and they become sort of neurotic. Many of them
are very guilt ridden. It's certain I put an insight
to the Michael Jones offers with abortion is one way
you turn a woman into a One way you judaize
a woman is you have or have an abortion, or
you engage in premarital sex or sexual liberation. And notably,
you get pregnant, then you get an abortion, and because
of the guilt, you feel you can't get around that.
And you since you're alienated, you know, from the church,
you don't have sacramental confession. So you seek a sort
of justification in radical politics. So that's why they show
up with wearing pussy hats, you know, and that sort
of thing, and they.
Speaker 2: Embrace they embrace the revolutionary spirit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's comfort in the crowd, right, Yeah. And
that's how you that's how you have so many like
Catholic women voting for like a Jewish governor in Pennsylvania
because they've been morally compromised and they and again they're
cut off, they're alienated from ways that traditionally we dealt
with guilt in the West, which was confession as opposed
to the fortieth method, which is where you where you
sort of you pathologize guilt and you say keep doing
what you're doing in rational you know. So that's broadly
and this is kind of fun. A year ago, Yeah,
I was during the election. There's an article Brides of
the Kamala's Brides, the Brides of the State. Remember that
term bots?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. These are women like Kamala Harris who sort of
uh uh drunk. Uh they drank from the the cup
of sexual revolution, liberation. And now you know, they enter
their their their twenties or thirties or forties, and they
feel empty, guilty, and they're neurotic. Half of them are
on prescription drugs for anxiety or some sort of uh
you know, drug for the pain they're feeling, emotional pain
they're feeling. And these people rather you know, they could
be they become reliable, uh you know, voting votes for
the Democratic Party because of their the choices they've made.
I think Edward Dutton would call them witches, right, they
become witch is yeah, you know. And then so there's
a psychological phenomenon to this, I think whereas the system
turns out these women and and that, and the numbers
are now legion and they're they're in Serberbia money more
are fluent, you know, because they work and the dual
incomement of families and all that, and they're not going
to look back and you know, they're not willing to
look in the mirror and where I've made some really
bad decisions. They're gonna try to rationalize it, yeah, or
ease they're paying with with drugs or you know, or
wine or xanax that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean this issue really is like a
Canarian and Nicole mine for so many other problems, right.
I mean sometimes you know, people are like, oh, well,
how can this uh one issue be interconnected with you know,
women's sexual liberation and you know, homosexuality and all these
other problems of degeneracy, And it's like, no, well, I mean,
just think about what we just talked about right here. Right,
It's like, okay, so you have an entire society for
the last like several decades, is pushing it in all
the news and the media. That is totally fine for
women to get abortions. They do this on literally everything.
You know, you were mentioning black Built earlier, tim and
you know, to the guy's credit, he's done some excellent
work on particularly the media in the nineties on things
like homosexuality. For example, like when Ellen first had her
show on primetime and she was like the first gay
character to come out on TV and everything, and the
jokes that were making in the show was, oh, okay,
so where do you get your like your subscription to
the gay club now, you know, here's your money or whatever? Right,
And it's like they always try to do these edge
cases to bring into the door. They do this thing
with abortion, right, it's like, oh, well, you know, we
need to have this legal because in case, like you know,
of incest done by a migrant that you just let
into your country from Pakistan, you know, because like you know,
but where else would this be a case? Right, you know.
But the again, the media is like, oh, well, it's
just because of you know, the people in West Virginia
and Alabama are engaging in in sessuous activities, so we
need to have abortion legalized in those states of course,
because this is just happening all the time. And it's
not happening in the Pakistani community. We just led into
Detroit or whatever. Or you know the cases of like
rape along the southern border in El Paso, because we
just let in, like you know, Manuel Gonzales here who
just went on like a rapees free or whatever. This is.
This is always how they do these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the Norman Lear with abortion on the show
Maud in nineteen I guess there was nineteen seventy three, Yeah,
I got it. You coincidentally, just when they were just
it was nineteen seventy two, I think the Fall of
seventy two. You have mods there was a spin off
from Arow of the Family and she had an abortion,
the character did, And of course this is they're presenting
this issue to the public in an alleged sitcom. You know,
this is the very special episode remember of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the water cooler episodes everyone like would watch back
when the culture had a little bit more hegemony. Yeah,
options of what they were watching all the time.
Speaker 3: But this, Yeah, she Maud was in her forties and
I think she'd just been liketed to Congress or something,
and you know, I don't know if that happened that
happened later in the show or something. But I remember,
this is Norman Lear presenting his vision and how he
framed the issue, and we're all supposed to people, suppo,
to sit back and just accept his his the Malibu
Mafia is uh uh framing of the issue.
Speaker 1: Well you see this too, because like, okay, so you
have all these decades of propaganda slowly pushing the Overton
window towards the left direction. More and more women get
caught up in this. More and more women, you know,
abortions themselves. And when you actually hear the like speeches
from uh, you know, they'll get like various women that
speak at like martial life or stuff. Some of them,
you know, had abortions in the past, like immediately right
a day or something like that. And this is like
obviously the small minority they are vocal about it, but
the majority of women who talk about this just immediately
report how horrible it felt to them, you know, to
do this. It's like, oh yeah, I literally killed my
own child. It's like literally one of the worst things
in the world you could do. But when you have
such a large percentage of women that are engaging in
this behavior, more and more they're just going to double
down to the point of where you actually do have
a substantial, like voting block of women. And these are
the ones that are literally out in the streets protesting
ice right now in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Not just women, of course, there's Bernard Nathanson, who produced
the sound Scream in the eighties. He started the National
Abortion Rights Action League in the nineteen sixties. He's one
of the key figures in getting an abortion legalized. Although
it was a Supreme Court decision, the Supreme Court's decision
was highly political. It wasn't fundamental law, you know, sort
of a dispassionate reading of the law, you know. But
he himself in his book The Hand of God, because
he eventually converted to Catholicism before he became pro life eventually,
he claimed that he had taken part in some seventy
five thousand abortions, and five thousand he conducted himself. He
was he was an obgu i n in New York,
and he admitted that he fudged numbers about you know,
women dying with illegal abortion. That's so I remember the
coat hangers and all that. They claim that there are
thousands of them dying year from illegal abortions and as
if that justified abortion. But it's an emotional appeal, you know,
abortion us to be safe, legal and array as Bill
Clinton's approach rhetoric in the nineties. But he himself admits
in the Hand of God that he pressured his girlfriend
to get an abortion he was in medical school, and
he says that one of the reasons why he became
a staunch advocate abortion wasn't just because he was Jewish,
or that probably factored into it. It is because his
own guilt or rationalized what he did, what he had done,
his own child that he had he had murdered, or
at least has his girlfriend murder murdered rather, and so
see how this would affect his psychology of and so
he kind of covered that up with this radical as
kind of more or less going so extreme on the
other end, do you rationalize what he had done, what
he and his girlfriend had done when they were young.
But you know, he eventually came around to it because
of apparentsperently because of ultrasound technology, and he actually saw
that's what the science scream as a vision of an
onboard child recoiling and essensively screaming as it's aborted. It's
interesting that he was a very prominent media figure when
he was advocating for abortion, but when he started speaking
out against abortion, media stopped asking him questions or interviewing
him on the matter. And he even he admits that
the way the issue was framed in the nineteen seventies
when abortion was being debated was whenever a politician or
public figure came out against abortion, the media would immediately
bring up their the fact that they were Christian or Catholic,
but no one ever addressed the fact that disproportionately those
who worship on Saturday supposedly were advocates for legalized abortion,
meaning they didn't, imagine my shock, they didn't address the
ethnic religious you know, battle lines that were being drawn here.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, I did an episode for my
show back in November. I rarely do solo episodes where
it's just me talking, and I had the idea of,
you know, you can kind of trace like the Israeli
takeover of the United States. I mean, when it's just
like really complete till like nineteen seventy two, nineteen seventy three,
it's kind of hard not to argue that by that
time it was just pretty total. And you know, I
was addressing the whole thing about where, you know, like
if you're blessing Israel, those who bless is real or blessed,
and I looked at the culture and everything since nineteen
seventy three, and it's like, hey, what's gotten better since
nineteen seventy three? And the only thing I could really
find is the murder rates actually gone down, which is important.
But the one thing I left out of that was abortion.
I mean, if our blessings for blessing Israel and you know,
basically saying hey, you know, good, take the reins of
power here own our politicians. We'll fight your wars for you,
you know, just march in, you know, take over. You know,
when you look at everything that's happened from nineteen seventy three,
if it was just abortion, it would be you know, where, literally,
where are the blessings if God blesses those who bless Israel,
our blessings since you know, seventy two and seventy three
are been pretty damn horrific. I mean it's like, really,
if those are blessings, I'd hate to see the curses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you look at nineteen seventy through sort
of an as horribulus. I guess you could say, because
you have rov Wade January nineteen seventy three, you also
have nineteen seventy three is when Deep Throat is allowed
to play at a first run theater in New York City.
So your pornography, you also have the Yam Kapur War
and the nick in the oil shocks, right, and you
have the broader economic conditions. You're also have feminism peaking
at this time. This is the I guess you say,
the high watermark of feminism, the women's lib movement that
was known. Was that the year that Billaging King beat
Bobby Riggs? Or is that seventy two? I forget, might
have been seventy or seventy three.
Speaker 2: Is that seventy five?
Speaker 3: I thought it was earlier, seventy two or seventy three. Thing.
Of course, it turns out Bobby Rigs blew it through
it because he had gambling debts. But okay, seventy three,
So you have Billy Jean King beating Bobby Riggs in
a tennis match. Chris boby Ricks, I think it was
like fifty four, as she was twenty six or twenty seven.
And also it turns out he did he did throw it.
It was a pr thing obviously. But anyway, so you
have sort of the war between the sexes, feminism, pornography.
This is again the intersection of sexual liberation, abortion and
also usury in debt. This is the when wages stagnate
and the credit card becomes widely used. Was also the
year that women could get.
Speaker 2: Credit card cold go off the cold gold standard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seventy one, and there was this is the this
when they bring in the Petro Dollo the year later,
and this debt. So you will have usury, sodomy, abortion,
all these years being sort of well, sort of being
normalized and except to be promoted openly promoted by all
the institutions, to be the education government, and even the
broader economic conditions that are being created. Because this is
also that was.
Speaker 1: The next point I was going to want to get into,
is you know that's like the you know, whether this
is like.
Speaker 2: It was nineteen seventy four when women could get secure,
they could get a bank accountain credit or that's it
was seventy four, same time f him.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, right around there, I mean, whether this
is a excuse to you know, justify like the bad
behavior or whatever in the people's minds or what have you.
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 1: When surveyed, you know, when like people are saying, oh,
I need to get abortion, and largely people cited for
economic reasons. And now again, you know you don't necessarily
have to, you know, I think that that is the
main reason why people are doing this. I mean, we
all know it's elective, but that still doesn't change the
fact that it is obviously much harder for young people
to start families. I mean, we talked about a bunch
on this show that the numbers came out at the
end of last year that the amount of the number
of thirty year olds in the United States who are
married and own their home is only five percent, which
is just staggering.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a system that does that is a
system that simply should not would be allowed to exist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you expect, you expect, you know, people who are
sexually mature and do things that kids do for twelve
years and you know, not be able to afford homes
up until that point. I mean it's like, what do
you think is going to happen? I mean, there's gonna
be pregnancies that happen in that point, and so like
a lot of people make the calculation. Obviously it's evil
and it's horrible, but when you're in a society that
promotes it around every corner, it's just as simple as
you know, it's just as simple as any procedure, right,
you know, like what they talk about. So, I mean,
if it's there, people are going to use it, and we.
Speaker 3: Live in a society it doesn't have the capacity to
hold those who create culture entertainment accountable anymore. There used
to be mechanisms for this, like the legions of decency
and a sense that those who who make entertainment movies
and stuff are accountable or at least are on a
leash rash or at leash, and that ended in the
nineteen sixties, around nineteen sixty five with the Pawnbroker, a
Holocaust film coincidentally, which broke the production code so they
were given free rein. And within a few years you
have television becoming very starting lecturing, big didactic, promoting the
liberalism normally or style of American freedom, these things, and
there's no pushback anymore, no capacity for people to push
back for civil society to push back because the oligarcs
now are given free rain, because we're all free to
pursue what we wanted to do with their own lives.
And only a few people I'd like to pass. Only
a few people are wealthy enough of their resources sort
of to impact or influence people, you know, produce magazines,
glossy magazines, or to produce films. I saw a thing
like YouTube is how a sci fi movie that nobody
saw affected women? And he was talking about The Stefford Wives.
It came out in nineteen seventy five. I remember it
came out. Remember the ads for it on television, for
The Stepford Wives most people are familiar with. When you
when you when someone says, you know, I like The
Stefford Wives, you're kind of referring to a woman who
stays at home who wirobotically serves her husband, right, I
mean Pete, you probably remember it, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2: My mom was liked it for some reason.
Speaker 3: Okay, base And the video on YouTube goes to how
what the film does is it didn't only no one
really saw it wasn't a popular movie at all, but
it was. The terms were picked up in the media,
the term of references to it and everything is. It
was promoted on the media and everything, so it got
in everyone's mind. It was sort of meme of the day.
Oh you're Stepford White, you know, stay at home mom,
that sort of thing, you know, trapped in the kitchen
and the guys doing the doing the video says. What
the film does is, by the way, the book is
based on a novel by Ira Eleven.
Speaker 2: Okay, for what I know, I know, I'm shocked. I know,
I'm shocked. I mean, that's that's amish, right, yes, company,
it's a.
Speaker 3: Great What they do is they take the Katherine Ross
meets up with this other lady who again it was
he was liberated, and Katherine Ross is I guess a
somewhat liberated. She wants to move back to New York City.
The husband decides to move him into this the town
of Stuff for this idyllic you know, uh small uh
you know, sort of like a bedroom community of New
York and and and everyone. All the women are all beautiful,
they dress nicely, they go shopping, they're obedient, the husbands
support them and that sort of thing. And Katherin Ros's
character is just offended by this, you know, but what
the film does is it takes like normal things and
has the women repeat them robotically, so it sounds creepy.
So they have this one woman who's the idea is
I mean, women are replaced by robots, that's the idea.
And the robots are obedient, that's the idea. These sort
of the simulations of the women. Then the real women
are killed and that's the idea of the and there's
an evil patriarchy that's doing this in the small town.
But anyway, sorry spoil over right, so movie that's fifty
one years old. But anyway, what the movie does is
it takes these statements like this one woman who's I
guess presumably been replaced and she's just saying robotically, says,
I liked providing a nice home for my husband and
raising his children. He works so hard to give us
a house and he deserves this. And she says in
a way that's creepy, but it's perfectly normal. I mean,
how is that weird? But it's presented as weird, you know,
And the only normal women are the women that have
contempt for their husbands, that want something better that you know,
they always want to go back to the city and
they're tired of their boarded life. And so this is
how it's presented in the media. And of course that
idea was promoted day in and day out for the
better part of what forty years, fifty years in this country,
you know, and you can't promote still is. Yeah, still is.
So if you're going to if your media is going
to promote narcissism, you know, egotism, consumerism, these things day
in and day out on media, it's going to have
its effect on the population. And that's why so many
young women today aren't suitable wives or mothers, or don't
want to you know, don't have that natural impulse to
be They don't have healthy aspirations. They want to go
off and go to college and quote have careers, jobs
and all that.
Speaker 1: And all their careers are fake anyway, so all the
men that are you know, like traditionally, when you're in
the workplace, you know, obviously women shouldn't have been there
in the first place. But let's go that for a second, right.
You know, traditionally, when you're in the workplace and women
were in you know, roles like you know, a secretary
position or something like that, it's actually not a bad
place that should meet, you know, a potential husband for you.
The power dynamic is natural there you meet somebody you're
in the workplace with, but now through artificial things. And
again this is like a manaster talking points are going
on for the better part of two and a half
decades at this point. But it's like, well, when you
have like all this corporate feminism that is artificially inflating
the careers of women or the positions that they should
be in. Now every single man that works with her
already knows like, Okay, you're an insufferable bitch and your
career is literally worthless. So you know, but because women
have been told their entire lives like, oh, like I'm
this really accomplished girl, and I've worked really hard to
get into this position, and i work a great job
with my work from home remote corporate tech job thing
where I'm sitting by the pool, and you know, I'm
sure every guy can kind of attest to this. If
you're in a relationship with you know, girls these days
or something, it's like, okay, explain me what you do
like for your job. You know, it's like like from
like office space and what is it you do here?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: And it's like it's a joke. It's a complete joke.
It's like the fuck you're talking about.
Speaker 3: You have a job.
Speaker 1: It's like if I if I, like, you know, just
decide to call into the office one day, it's like, yeah,
I'm not feeling too good, like I can't really go
in or what have you or you know, just it's
just staggering to me how little work did they do
and how much money they make.
Speaker 3: One thing I've noticed, and I don't know if it's
that women have a tendency to refer to their jobs
as careers and men refer as jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good point.
Speaker 3: And it's because men know they have to do unpleasant,
hard work to succeed and to I mean, there's people
have looked at the numbers and the real productive economy
is overwhelmingly male, as far as reshos, extraction, refinement, innovations,
intellectual property.
Speaker 1: My buddy Aaron Clary wrote a book about this called
a World Without Men and Analysis Some Female Economy. Yeah, excellent,
excellent read.
Speaker 3: Now, I mean his tone is kind of dismissive of women,
and I understand it obviously. When we're not dismissing what
women Obviously, we're paying women actually a very huge compliment
because we're acknowledging what their natural roles are, very very important,
and they've been neglected for the better part of sixty years,
and we're paying the price for it. Now. I'm paying
you a compliment. And the one thing that makes them different,
the one thing they have to offer, is the fact
that they can bear children and raise our young children
and everything that comes with that. That would be providing
a home, providing comfort, physical comfort, these things, these things
are very important and in their proper context they're wonderful.
They're easily easily abused, of course, as you can tell,
you know, but it's it's again, it's it's the fact
is that men and women compliment each other. They're not equal,
and if they're if you have a society that's obsessed
with trying to make them equal, women will learn will
develop contempt for men and men. I mean, I mean,
here's the reality is that when it comes down to secks,
men are much more attractive the women than women are
to men. But women need men for provision protection. And
that's how it works, very true, that's how it works.
And that's how And if they don't think they need,
of course they do because as you just mentioned everything,
that's all the physical comforts they of modern society actually
are provided by men. In fact, the men have provided
the labor saving devices that have led women given them
the free time to be such trouble. That's one of
the ironies amount of modernity. Cause you could say, and
I you know, it's and another thing you talk about abortion,
get back, get it back to abortion, the fact that
women feel free to kill their unborn children. I was
watching a debate with Ana Kisparian and that what's that
woman named Pearl Davis?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Pearl, you know, and it was kind.
Speaker 3: Of ensupful because between the two of them, I think
they've they've almost lived seventy years. There's not a one
child between them. Yeah, you know, so it's a culture
of death right there. But I know some of the
things Pearl says, it's true, but I don't know what
her game is. It's just to demoralize everybody.
Speaker 1: But the Yeah, unfortunately, but pearls that minister talking points
just don't work when they come from a woman's mouth,
because it's like, okay, you know, You're not a man
at the end of the day, sweetheart, you know this
is this is just ridiculous. I mean, listen, I like Pearl.
I've had no issues. Every time I've talked with her.
She's been very very nice to me. And she's dating
one of my friends. So I mean, okay, but you know, listen, sweetheart,
this just isn't your realm. So why you here and
you're talking here because you can get an artificially large
platform because men have been trained since the day that
they were born, in this day and age that to
see women as figures of authority. You know, a position
isn't okay for men to hold unless a woman signs
off on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a black guy telling you're not racist
or jew telling her yeah, exactly exactly right. And uh,
you know, but the album so Anna Casparon she's upset
about you know, Israel's killing babies and gossip, which is
perfectly fine with killing babies in the womb, you know,
but she's remember Anna Goes, I married a husband. My husband,
he was a he was on the couch, unemployed, and
I love them, like geez, you just she's just like
made her husband to be a big loser in front
of everybody's like nice anna, nice Anna. That works in
the long term. But the idea of women again, they
have right, the you know how to right to kill
their onboard children, which again the one thing they have
they really and everything that comes with that having offer
is the giving birth, giving bringing life into the world
and raising that and there there, and they think they
can just trivialize that or make it a choice without
having an effect. One of the reasons why I think
one of the major reasons why rape is considered such
an awful crime is because it's it desecrates something that
we think is sacred, which is motherhood and also the
idea of paternity. Right, it's not just the physical violence
or the violation of bodily autonomy. If that were the case,
it wouldn't be so many jokes about men getting raped
in prison, right, the references to it on police shows.
So there's something and I agree that there is something
very different about the assault and the you know, physical
assault of women and particularly rape, and it's not what
we consider it more brutal, it's less acceptable for being
because you know, you just see this awful, well, we
see it's awful because it's a desecration of something. But
if you, as a woman, think you were right to
kill your unborn child without anyone, you know, you know
a lot to write the kill you on born children,
and that kind of spoils that because what's sacred? You know,
why are you any more sacred physically or worth more
precious than a man?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 3: You know, obviously men are women, I think biologically or
at least from a reprotective standpoint, are more precious because
they can only have like one usually typically as one
child in a year. Men can have many, you know,
it's only so many eggs. Men have billions of sperm cells.
So that factors into how men and women relate to
one another, and also the relative balance of men and
women in society and the risks that men take and
how women don't. And you know, men are there to
protect and provide, which is why this gives should confer
men uh certain privileges because they have certain responsibilities. A
good example is the conscription draft. The fact that men
are subjected to conscription of the military draft should should
confer in them special political rights and responsibilities of visa
VI to women because they have that responsibility to protect.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, I've never gotten an answer from a woman
after I we're talking about voting and all that. About that, Well,
what about this? Just not give them special you know, uh,
certain privileges if there's a responsibilities. But see my point though,
I mean kind of you can't go on and talk
about you we can kill our children and then claim
some sort of status. You know, you know, you being
have to be you have to be protected or something.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: But that's again that's again probably a carryover from a
from a more genteel, innocent time when women didn't kill
their unbore children in the millions during the year.
Speaker 2: So well, I mean, this is just all the spirit
of the age, right, I mean when you when you
take into consideration the post war cosensus, I mean, you know,
the post war and census is, you know, don't tell
people what to do. If you tell people what to
do with their body, that you're fascist. If you tell
women they can't have abortion, you're a eugenicis you're a eugenicist.
Women are just as you know, women are just as
useful in the workplace as men. I mean, come on,
it was black women who got us to the Moon, right.
I mean everyone's seen everyone's seen the movie, and I
mean and.
Speaker 3: Merely Earhart proved they're better pilots.
Speaker 2: But you know, so I mean, this this is all
to be expected. I mean when you take into consideration
everything that was destroyed from the old order, the old
way of doing things, and you know, now there is
no real truth. I mean, they still let people go
to church, but they've subverted the churches. Yeah, they've subverted
the leadership in the churches, and mostly the leadership in
churches now care more about racism. You know, I don't
know if you've heard that, if if you've had that
in the mass lately, tim where they have you heard
that one? Where have you seen a priest prates and racism?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And last Sunday the choir saying the Black national anthem?
Oh wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just I was like, well, this is
for robbery. Lee's birthday doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: So, you know, the spirit of the age is you
know that you you don't invade other countries because you
know that's that's mean, unless, of course, you you're doing it.
Then it's okay if Russia wants to do it. It's
if Russia wants to invade their neighbor and people who
are basically blood their DNA matches up, you know, ninety
eight percent. You know, that's that's you know, that's a problem.
But you know, I mean, you have to go chasing
monsters all over the world because you know, we're the
good guys. There's good guys, nearest, bad guys. And part
of being the good guys is is you you let
women murder their kids. And I mean it's just all
a part of this order.
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, there's there's also something very primal
about this too, because you see, like the kinds of
guys that are at these like pink pussy hat marches
and the same kind of guys who like, you know,
out in the streets in Minnesota or what have you,
and they're all like, you know, these stereotypical soy jack,
you know, a guy that we're all familiar with, right.
But there's something that goes into the deep primal brain
of women too, because they know deep down that the
main job that men have is to sharpen a stick
and then go shoving in somebody's face, right to like lily,
to protect the women and children back home, and if
this guy is going out of his way to be like,
you know, an ally and do a sneaky fucker game
to try and like, you know, get in with like
these chicks saying, oh, you know, we really got to
make sure they have the right to murder my on
board child. It's like, but what do you expect, like
how they're going to treat you. You know, they can't
respect you if you're this kind of guy.
Speaker 2: No, there's a comment. There's a comment here I wanted
to I wanted to highlight because it's a really good
comment when you think about it at John Dorith seventy
three here. So Satan might be the prince of darkness,
but at least he's not racist, and that's that's really important,
because you know, you can be a Satanist in this
culture and no one's going to attack you because you know,
Satanists just aren't they're not racists. You know Satan. Satan
hates everyone equally, and that's perfectly fine. But you know,
God chooses people, he chooses people to like, and he
doesn't like others. He saw he was a Jacob, was it?
He saw he hated who he loved Jacob, But he loved.
I mean, it's I mean, that's terrible.
Speaker 3: He obviously doesn't he obviously doesn't believe in equality. Yeah,
he made people, so he made He made people so different,
the sexes and various groups so different. I mean it's uh, yeah,
he's it's and his creation needs to be corrected, right, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's something there's something wrong if people
can't you know, if if God, who's good, you know, discriminates,
but Satan hates everyone equally. I mean, in the galitarian world,
you gotta choose Satan, right.
Speaker 3: I was reading my daughter, a little daughter, young youngest
one in our family, was given a Bible story books
by her her I guess her cousin who's older, and
I was reading her stories. I was reading Adam and
Eve the Garden of Eden explains to him the weaknesses
of women in band and all that explained. It was
very funny because Adam, God confronts Adam after they've they've
eaten from the from the tree of knowledge. Adam goes,
it wasn't me, It was that woman. You gave me.
That woman. I had to crack it up. It was
that woman. She made me do it. And God rebukes
him for that she was. It was very funny He's
trying to play because we know the story there is. Yeah, Eve,
because she was bored in Paradise, wanted to do this
and because Adam's failing was what happy wife, happy life?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's that's what That's what God says to him. Right,
It's like, because you have listened to the woman, and yeah,
it's like the first thing he says is not you know,
being from the tree, it's because you've listened to the woman.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, now, I mean, is you know good again.
I've talked to a lot of women, and you know,
most of the women I talked to are you know,
Catholic and pro life and that erotic and and say
because they've they they're they're not living lives that drive
them erotica and say they have a healthy life. Isn't
to say they don't have character flaged like all of
us do. But we're while we were speaking broadly speaking
the general culture, obviously I'm I'm like, I'm like in
a subculture. But unless you have the proper like proscriptions
and prescriptions and rules, and you have a and if
you have a permissive society like or is this today,
I would say the majority of women will cease being
the nurturing you know, uh uh figures that they should
be because they they they themselves have embraced the Satanic
spirit of our age and so that's why you assume
many of them behaving that you know so poorly now,
you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, in addition to that, you know,
one of the other topics that we were discussing earlier
to circle back to us that you know, most of
overall just trained to be defective men at this point
is the other problem too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just that uh you've noticed even Yeah, just
sort of an undeniable insecurity you see in them. Yeah,
because they're not they're trying to be something they're not,
and there's they just they just become unhappy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's it's so interesting that this comes up because
I'm sure a lot of the younger guys in the
check can definitely tested this. But uh, it's very very
interesting to see how uh women when you get in
a relationship with them today, Uh, you know, not just
talk about like oh like value with the career and stuff,
but the way they perceive as being like most effective
and most helpful like to the relationship and to like
the family is well, I want to go and work
or and even if they don't want to work, their
assumption is that they're doing something bad by not wanting
to work, you know, like that's the default. It's like, well,
you know, my my instincts are telling me not to work.
But you know, like is the man like you know,
good judge harshly for it? Or am I not contributing
if I'm not working or something? You know, there's just
a complete disconnect of what men actually want out of
a relationship.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's they don't want to be a step
for wife, right, you know, uh, stay at home and
you know, even the idea that you have something called
a traditional wife thing right, as if there's something else
right right, yeah, you know, is you know, a sign
of decadent of our age. And again it's it's sort
of a self fulfilling prophecy because the way the economy
is structured, when women poured into the workforce, wages were
effectively halved. And uh, you also had the spiraling debt,
which is inflationary, so the cost of living going up.
And also with two incomes you have also much more consumption,
so prices go up, you know, the price of houses
go up, and that sort of thing, and this shifts
sort of expectation, lifestyle expectations and all that. So you know,
obviously you've a couple, the two income couple with no
kids is gonna going to consume a lot more and
may even add statistically to the GDP. But they're not
having any children, whereas the one of him couple won't
spend as much, but they're having children, and a lot
of money is being invested in children, the human capital.
And what happens is eventually over a couple of generations
because because you have a much lower birth rate and
its related placement level, you're you're literally losing a population,
which is the ultimate source of capital in any kondomy.
Are the people. There's Janet Yellen, I think a few
years ago. I mean she was had I think she's
head of She might have been Secretary of the treasure
at the time or I don't know if she. I
think she was Secrety of the treasure at the time,
but she was pontificated. It might have been fed. I
forget which well she yeah, she did both at different times.
I think but Janet Yellen, of course Yellen, she is
one of them, of course, and she's talking about abortion,
and for some reason she's talking about legalized abortion. And
I think it might've been around twenty twenty two. What
does she treasure sectionary for? For Biden? Am I wrong
about that? She was one of those Obama But she
was saying that abortion is good because it allows women
to go out and work and adds to the GDP,
not thinking you know, when you have children, children grow
up and work and actually add value, whether it's providing
children in the next generation or providing a labor force.
You're killing off a labor force. This is what usury
eventually does, by the way, because usually grinds labor to
the ground, which makes them so people can't have families
or have less children. Then you find yourself without a
labor force for the economy, and you try to make
up for it in illegal immigration or AI or you know,
robotics or something some sort of weird like Elon Musk
fantasy or something. You know, But it's the culture of death.
It's the culture of death.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm sorry you talked about that. Yeah,
Yaki talked about that in imperium. How as soon as
you start, as soon as you start adding to the
native population, birth rates drop, not only because of things
prices can get higher and you're destroying the culture, but
also there are like true biological factors where women if
you're importing people who have absolutely nothing to do with
your culture, that can affect women's reproductive cycles because they
get into a fight or flight mode because they're seeing
people who are historically their enemies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think about it. I mean, and you know,
civilization has been around for you know, eight years or so,
and really it's only now in the last fifty years
that we have mass immigration to a point where it's
like the only time you had this many foreigners living
a bunch of population, be like when the Mongols were
invading your town or something like that. So obviously it's
not a safe time for you to be having children.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost that war has a similar effect for it. Yeah. Yeah,
this the stress. The stress lowers fertility. And another thing
is this is where hypergamma kicks in, which is a constant.
If the native Varo population isn't seen as being the
primary source of provision and protection, women will pick the
winners and drop the losers. And that's why women tend
to be less loyal, at least from an ethnic standpoint. Right,
if you celebrate it, if you promote it, they will
go with those who can provide. And so that's why
you have this sort of this this recent was that
that that article and compact the Lost Generation the White Man. Yeah,
that dealt with largely like cultural gatekeeping jobs, elite jobs,
but it radiates down where the opportunities aren't there for
young ethnic white men to support families. And that is
a way to keep them from finding wives and having
children and reducing the population. It's one way to accelerate
the browning of the country, so which we're not supposed
to notice, but they talk about doing it, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not happening, but it's a good thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Tucker's monologue yesterday on The Great Replacement was probably uh.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was excellent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the best stuff to get out there,
considering who is you know, considering his audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had a pretty fire week between that and
the Peter Brimlow interview.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, why are they doing this? Yeah, why are
they doing that? Why do they want to replace us.
I don't hate anybody. I'm not an anti Semite.
Speaker 3: We got the award Tucker either way. People really just.
Speaker 1: It's still wild to me that people still don't really understand, like,
you know, what his wash shtick is at this point
where it's like, Okay, basically every episode for the last
year has been oh, you know, like the nation of
Israel is great. Now I'm going to talk about how
they suck in the worst place.
Speaker 3: You know, I love Israel. Yeah, and he goes on
this forty five minute.
Speaker 2: He's actually recently been saying, you know that he really
he said the other day he doesn't like Israel. I
like the people, he said, but he doesn't you know,
I like some of it. He actually says, I like
some of the people, but I don't really like the country,
you know. And so it's you know, and also the
way he's standing up for white people, you know, for
for his race. He's is really contrary. I think stuff
that he said, you know, like just a year ago,
where he's like, you know, well, I don't care about
my ethnicity. There's you know, there's there's nothing about it.
And he's just now he's just leaning into it and
you know, from what I understand in private, a lot
of the things that he like when he's going to
the White House and he's talking to Trump, that's his
main focus is just the anti white you know, how
this country is anti white and if this country stops
being white, it stops being this country. But you know,
it's like, I mean, one of the things I talked
about in my in my where the Blessings episode was
in nineteen seventy three, it was like the country was
like eighty two percent white and the black population was
like twelve or thirteen percent. That's a total ninety five percent.
It was like five percent from other places. And now
the country allegedly is fifty six percent white. It could
be less than that. So if it's fifty six, if
it's yeah, if it's say it's fifty percent white and
you still have thirteen percent blacks, that means what thirty
seven percent of it is like mystery meat from other places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally emergent behavior, emergent factors, you know, totally the
natural movement of people who come into a place from
time to time. Guys, there's something suspicious about this whatsoever.
It isn't organized by all of our elites and our
governments throughout the entire West, giant network of NGOs billions
mount billions of dollars.
Speaker 3: Now, no, I just read some of those fifty five
there's fifty five separate organizations that are providing legal services
for those arrested in Minnesota for the anti ice protests. Jeez,
who's funding all that?
Speaker 1: There? She is? We were talking about earlier, and this is.
Speaker 3: The things that people like Tuck are discovering. Again. It
was a lot of this od sense. I mean, there's
all this anti white stuff in the seventies, but when
it was cute when you're eighty two percent of the population,
because it's marginal, it has to be marginal. But now
you know it's it's it's it's reaching critical mass. And
the velocity of change is evidence primar facing case for
a conspiracy if you will, you don't get that rapid
change in demographics without a program on operation being carried out,
and which is also a sign of malevolence. It also
indicates that the normal functions of assimilation and natural you
could say, cross pollination, which would smooth out differences, haven't
been allowed to develop. So there's going to be it's
social engineering and social engineering. Is it neverbak breeds conflict.
Speaker 1: But come on to come on to him, all these
groups that were letting in our national Conservatives come on
that for decades.
Speaker 3: You know, No, I mean it's different if you have
I mean, America's always gonna have a Hispanic population because
it expanded in the southwest, just like it had Catholics
because of you know, expanding the Louisiana the Southwest, and
not to mention the fact what was happening in Ireland
and what the British were doing. So you have and
in fact, you needed so many Irish to go fight
in the Union Army to suppress the South. That's all
that works out. But you know, immigration is always a
question of how many, who and when, And it's ridiculous
to say that just because so many came in and
of certain people came in in the eighteen eighties or
eighteen forties, you have to do it now. You have
to you know, develop and you have to allow infinity
Indians or millions of Somalis in other country. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean O'Connor came in in eighteen sixty to fight
the South, and now that means you gotta let in
Jigaboo Jackson is.
Speaker 3: Entirely you know, and financial welfare schemes eximt which political
politicians benefit from, you know, but you know, but here
we are, you know, three guys talking about abortion and
women's reproductive rights is evidently which is how it should be,
because if you leave it up to women, what happens?
Yeah right, yeah, but not like that. It's like, what
do you know?
Speaker 2: Is that? What was that?
Speaker 3: Gloria Stein said that she said something the effected if
men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right. You know. She was also famous for saying
women need men like a fish needs a bicycle. It's yeah, thanks,
thanks sweetheart.
Speaker 3: Well she was also a c I A yes, it
turns out, yeah, And it was men who financed her magazine,
who built the building she worked in, and the media
issue was promoted in all the technology. It's like, it's like,
come on, it's like it's so stupid, it's it's almost
childish the rhetoric.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, well, we've had a pretty expansive discussion about how
this issue ties into a lot of other problems that
have been occurring in the United States over the last
several decades, this issue always gets play in election years.
It's going to return to the forefront come the fall
this year, when I'm sure more states are gonna put
it on the ballot. I mean, we know, Virginia was
in the news this week because you know, it's potentially
going to get add to the constitution of the state
if it's voted into law this fall. So I'm sure
there will be many more stories on this issue coming
up pretty soon. But when we hit through these super
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Speaker 3: Of course, let's see, well Lemon or Don Lemon, it's
I don't know.
Speaker 1: I try not to think about, you know, these unsavory characters.
I imagine being so retarded that Elon Musk fires you
within like two days of getting a contract on Twitter.
You do really. Elon was like, oh, people are gonna
be on Twitter and we're going to have their own
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of the first people he snagged was Don Lemon. Had
one interview with him. Saw this guy was just completely
retarded and immediately fired.
Speaker 3: Has he been arrested yet? I know the arrest of
those two ladies, the two fat black women.
Speaker 2: I apparently apparently the judge is refusing to refuse. There
was a judge who said that there wasn't enough there
and then it turns out that the judge, let me see,
I have it on my timeline.
Speaker 1: The judge is judge's wife was in like Keith Elson's
office or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the judge's wife is connected to the magistrate judge
that refused to sign off on Don Lehman's arrest warrant
is married to an assistant ag and Keith Ellison's Minnesota off.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is the problem. The judiciar
has already been destroyed. So whatever Trump does, you can't
destroy something that's already been destroyed. Oh yeah, so politicized.
Keith Ellison said that going and storming the church was
a was First amendmentally protected. Actually it's not. But if
I call Keith Ellison a that is covered by the
First Amendment, actually get sagont fagot. If I call Don
Lemon or faggot, that is covered by the First Amendment,
but not going going in the church and disrupting the
service for the purpose of disrupting the service is not.
It's a violation. And first man's also violation of a
specific federal law which the liberals passed by the way
for abortion.
Speaker 2: You know what is a massive fucking fagot.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, we'll see what happens. I mean, oh,
the Left's not going to stop. They're going to continue
to escalate. There's no way, there's no breaks on this.
Jack of been trained.
Speaker 3: So yeah, bosheviction and Jacobins and you can't you can't
have conversations with these people much as live with them.
And that's the issue we're confronted with.
Speaker 2: All Right, you know you you actually can shoot them
in the face, yeap, law enforcement, law enforcement, you know legally,
the people who are allowed to do that can actually
do it. I'm not saying we're gonna. I don't recommend
anyone listening to this unless you are law enforcement do that.
But you protect yourself when it needs to be done, ye.
Speaker 1: The face of a generation. It's just I'm tired. I'm tired,
mister mustache man.
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to uh reward. I guess she won't have any more kids.
They won't be she won't be able to use any
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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We appreciate that. Yeah, there are channel memberships, but you know,
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Speaker 3: Pete.
Speaker 1: Any final words anything to promote?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Release episode two. Thomas and I are doing a quick
little series on how Germany was interfacing with the Muslim
world before World War before and during World War Two.
There are some interests there that people have expressed, and
it's really interesting history when you when you take into
consideration the diplomacy and basically how the Muslim world had
become part of the axis.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. Your talks with Thomas are very insightful and
educational every single time.
Speaker 2: They're not really talks with Thomas as Thomas just basically
you doing a college lecture course.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always enjoy my road trips I get
to take with Thomas. Is just a free podcast, you know,
So just you know, ye? All right, and Tim, thank
you for coming on the show, sir. Any final words
or promotions.
Speaker 3: M no, just thanks for having me on. It was
fun despite the topic. Uh, it's always nice to chat.
You have a chat with two like minded guys.
Speaker 1: We'll just have to do it again.
Speaker 3: So yeah, uh, God bless America.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I think we can all bless Americans.
Speaker 3: Americans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're here alrighty oh and one more super chat
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five bucks. He sends us a salute. Have you seen
the by Islamic LLCs to form another epic city in
Vero Beach, Florida? Check at trust dml on X. Well really, okay,
all right, thank you for bringing this to our attention.
You ser ari real American. No, we will have to
send up the batsymbol on this one and get people
to pay attention to this. But I'm not surprised. These
people are getting bolder and bolder, you know.
Speaker 2: Just you would think that the Jewish community in Florida
would stop this.
Speaker 3: But but.
Speaker 2: I don't know, did anybody, Did anybody see the article
this morning? It was in the Jerusalem Post talking about
how invoking the Torah, Minnesota Jews mobilize against ice operations.
Minnesota's Jewish community is speaking out against ice raids, Torah
teachings on welcoming the stranger and mobilizing protests across the
Twin Cities. Notice they're not advocating for this in Israel.
Speaker 3: From the river to the sea.
Speaker 2: Israel backstab me.
Speaker 1: Every single time.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are I mean, these Somali's are Muslims
and they don't want to get rid of them. They're
a Muslim community in Florida, in Florida, in Florida, where
like you can't get elected office unless you know, elected governor,
unless you go down to West Palm Beach and you know,
prey towards the freaking you know, pray towards the uh,
the Holocaust Museum three or four times a day, five
times a day. I mean, what the fuck is going
on here?
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like a pre Brimblow was talking
about in his interview with Tucker is uh, you know,
there's a reason why they want all these people in
the country because you know, we're not going to focus
on a certain group. So shocking that anyway. So well,
we're gonna wrap this one up here. We'll be back
next week on Monday with American Spirits Chapter House on Wednesday,
and another episode of Pony Express Radio next Thursday. Check
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see you guys next week. Everyone stay warm.
Speaker 4: When I pass on my good jeens to my sons,
they're going to join the Old Glory Club.