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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Mark Mark.

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. We appreciate your time. Mark. Please

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give us a brief bio in yourself.

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Speaker 2: All right, my name is Mark. I was born in

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nineteen ninety one. I was born in Memphis, Tennessee, but

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I was raised in a smaller country town. It's Middleton, Tennessee.

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It's about sixty miles i'd say, east of Memphis. So

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and we just got a red light, a dollar general,

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about two gas stations, and a hardware store and that's

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about it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a small town with just one red light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not even a red light either, it's

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just a blinking light.

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Speaker 3: You just pull up. It's got a full way and

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you just ease on through.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that might see that

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as being a drawback, but you know, there are a

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lot of good things that come along with that as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not too far from any kind of bigger

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city either. So it's kind of secluded in a way,

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but you can drive twenty minutes and you can be

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at a Walmart as well and be into a town.

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So it's I like it. It's little more secluded. It's

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slow living and you kind of know everybody around you

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and kind of get a gist of what's going on too.

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Speaker 3: So we don't have high crime or nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: So oh no, I bet you don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For me, I don't know. It's like being raised in

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the country.

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Speaker 2: I pick up a lot of skills that people wouldn't

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live in the city. But that also goes both ways

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as well, But I just prefer the country myself.

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Speaker 1: Well that makes two of us. I don't blame you there. Mark.

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Around two thousand and eight, when you were around sixteen

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years old, a friend of your has told you about

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something he saw that really shook him up. Well, where

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can you tell us about that?

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Speaker 2: So he was his name Sam, and we've been best friends.

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The first time we ever met was actually on the

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school bus. We rode the same school bus as Bush

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twenty six, and I believe it or not, we got

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into a fight the first time we met, and we

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were arguing, and I said, he dared me to hit him,

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and I took a pin out of my pocket and

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I drew an X on his face and I punched

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him square in the face. Well, of course we had

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to go to the principal and everything. And once we

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were on the way to the principal's office, they just

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so happened called our names over the intercom and we met.

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We said he when we go on the office list,

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were tend like we're friends, and that we did this

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on purpose.

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Speaker 3: So we did that.

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Speaker 2: We went into the office and we told the principal

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that we were just playing. Well, just so happened. After

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all that, we just became best friends. And we played

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baseball together as well, so we're pretty close knit. And

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we met probably fourth grade, I would say, And like

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I said, we just became best buds. And we had

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a small group of people, everybody that rode Bush twenty six.

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We all hung out outside of school as well. Sam

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lived on the kind of like the western part of

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the county and then I lived on the southern part,

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which is only about ten miles from each other.

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Speaker 3: But he lived in.

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Speaker 2: The community called Roger Springs and I lived down by

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the state line. So and like I said, but we

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used to always ride bicycles and go out and have

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a good time like kids would do.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Sam one night when nobody was around, so he got

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out on his bike and he was going down Foster

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there's a railroad track and you could kind of jump

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the track if you get going fast enough. Well, that's

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what his point was. And also to tell it was

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a full moon that night, and like you could see everything.

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down the road is you could see. Well, he come

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down that hill and he jumped the tracks and he

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slammed on his brakes and he slid sideways. And there's

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kind of a gravel parking lot where dumps at right there.

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We used to have dump sites in the county. That

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would be about four dumpsters set up and people of

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that far of the county could just go take their

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trash there, which you know, you'd have a lot of

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people that would throw dead carcasses out and they would

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throw stuff beside the cans and stuff like. That's kind

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of a trashy area, you know, it's there wasn't the

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best looking spot, but that's just what we have. So

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when he come down there, he slammed on his brakes

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and right there were beside the track, there's a lot

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of gravel on the road, and he slid his bike

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sideways and he's seen something. Now that's corn design. He

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looked over and for what he described it was, it

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was something eating a dead carcass right there in the ditch,

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and it rose up out of the ditch, and he

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said he looked it dead in the face, and he

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got so scared he just turned around and he took off. Now,

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it didn't chase him or anything like that, but it

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gave him a big scare. And he went home and

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he told his dad about it, and his dad was like, oh,

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that wasn't nothing, you know, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 3: But he was seriously terrified.

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Speaker 2: And the next night or whatever, we came out and

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he was telling us about it. Was, I say, the

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next night, the next day he was telling us about it,

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and he didn't he couldn't explain what it was, but

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he knew it was some kind of creature. And that

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night he would not come out after dark to ride

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bikes with us and hang out and all we were like, what, like,

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we didn't believe We did believe him, but we didn't

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want to believe him, you know. It was like there's

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got to be some kind of explanation. Well, well after

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about a week or so, he was doing research over

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at Brandon Neil's house on the computer and he come

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to the determination it was a werewolf is what he's seen.

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So then he goes and he tells his dad. You know,

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what he's saying is a werewolf. And his dad was like,

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don't ever, don't go around telling nobody you've seen that.

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That was probably somebody in the mask trying to scare you. Well,

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sounds like, no, that wasn't nobody in a mask.

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Speaker 3: I seen that.

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Speaker 2: He was a full body, like you could tell what human.

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It was like seven foot tall. Well, after his dad

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told him that somebody in the mask, he kind of,

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you know, kind of discouraged him, I guess from talking

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about it much. But he would tell us among our

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group friend you know, the group of us. So once

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he found out there's a werewolf, he just went around

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all the time when we were riding, he would always

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be scared and tell us he's seen a were wolf. Well,

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as years go on. He still would not when we

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were riding around once we got our driver's license and stuff.

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He would only pee where there was a street lark,

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Like if we were riding around on a back road

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and we all had to beee, he would not get

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out of the vehicle unless there was a streetlight. And

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also ania back up a little bit. He wouldn't come

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out outside for about a year after dark after this

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too as well. So like he was genuinely terrified and

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it we kind of made fun of him about it,

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you know, poke at him, and he would just swear

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that he was dead serious about it.

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Speaker 1: You told him that you wanted to go out looking

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for that werewolf, And what I understand, did you take

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him seriously when he told you about what he had

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seen or did you think he was full of it?

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Speaker 2: Well, the first time he told us about it, you know,

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after that night, I was kind of skeptical of what

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he's saying. You know, I believed he's seen something, but

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I wasn't too sure that he's seen a werewolf like

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he said he did. And even at the time, he

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didn't know what he's saying. But he researched for brandon

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Nell on the computer and he come to the conclusion

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that it's a werewolf. So you know, I kind of

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him yes and then kind of no. But the determination

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of him being so terrified after that encounter when it happened,

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he wouldn't go outside for like a year past dark,

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And you know that if he didn't see anything, then

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he wouldn't be terrified and wouldn't want to go out

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past dark if he was wanting to hang out with

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his friend. So he really was scared. So that made

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me kind of believe it, but I still kind of not.

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But then another thing though, is as the years went on,

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once we got our driver's license, he wouldn't when we

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were riding around and we had to pee or something.

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He would only stop if there was a street light.

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And once you're riding around with buddies for hours and hours,

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you got to feel a lot. So but he would

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not be unless we were at the street light. He

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would make me take him to an area where it

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was real lighted up and bright. So at this point

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I believe him more than I previously did when he

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first told me about it, because I could tell that

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he was serious.

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Speaker 3: You know, when he would get this like.

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Speaker 2: Look on his face every time we started talking about it,

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like he would genuinely get scared.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure would. Yeah, that's a pretty normal response

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to an experience like that. But also, on the other hand,

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I can understand why you were kind of skeptical, because

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that's a pretty big step to go from not having

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a clue these things are out there to having your

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bud telling you about an experience like that. So, like

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I said, I get it, I really do. If you've

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had a Dogman encounter, I would like to speak with

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me about it, whether in private or on the show,

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please go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report.

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Were you afraid to come out after dark too? The

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way he was after that.

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Speaker 3: You know, yes and no.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, I want it to be more

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of like a macho man type thing and be like, oh,

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don't nothing scare me.

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Speaker 3: But in the back of my mind, yeah, it was

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on my thoughts, and.

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Speaker 2: I would say that it did affect me as well,

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being so close to him as we were best friends,

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in the way that he acted about it, because I

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could tell he was telling me the truth, you know,

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So it did and it didn't, But I wanted to

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see what he was talking about, Like I was like,

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if I get this, I really would like to know

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what he's seen that night.

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Speaker 1: Man. Well, like you found out, be careful what you

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wish for.

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Speaker 3: It, because that is right.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes if you go around shaking too many trees, a

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leopard falls out.

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Speaker 3: That is right, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Do you think any of the weird

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wolves that you've seen were the same one that see

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him saw or do you think they were all different?

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Speaker 3: No? Absolutely, is the same. One is the same one.

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Speaker 2: And my I truly believe that whatever it is that

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we seen knows who we are, and it gets off

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on by scaring us, like as I'll tell you'll learn

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later on in the story, like it knows where I live,

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It knows where he lives and has kept track of

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us over the years, because like I said, this what

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just one siding in one year. It was sightings over

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the period of about five to six years. So it definitely,

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it definitely is the same one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, one thing to see a dog man or a

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werewolf like we've been calling them tonight. But if you

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see one away from your home, that's one thing. If

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they know where you live and they make it clear

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that they do by paying you visits. Yeah, that takes

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it to a whole new level. That's horrible, it really is.

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It's one thing to just have one dog me in

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the encounter, but when you have several encounters with them

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the way you have, that's got a way of normalizing

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dog men for an eyewitness, or normalizing dog men for

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an eyewitness, I should say. In other words, it makes

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it easy to believe that there's a dog man hiding

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behind every tree. With that in mind, can you go

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outside at night now without getting the hebgbis.

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Speaker 2: Every time I go out at night, I think about it.

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It's right there in the back.

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Speaker 3: Of my mind. It really is. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I don't think it's out to hurt anyone,

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but still just the thought of that, Yeah, if something

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a twig breaks over in the side yard or something,

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and I don't I can't exactly pinpoint what broke that twig.

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In the back of my mind, I'm like, is that

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thing watching me? You know? It's just and you know worse,

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I am calling it a werewolf. But it's very hard

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for me to believe that there's a human that transforms

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into another creature. I don't really believe that I believe

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it's more of a creature on its own than something

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that actually transforms in the moonlight, like when there's a

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full moon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so hard to believe that these things are actually

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out there looking the way they do twenty four seven,

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three sixty five. It's an even bigger stretch, like you said,

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to think that people can transform somehow into that state.

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But yeah, anything's possible. I mean, dog men are definitely

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out there, So yeah, I guess what can't be possible?

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That's the question.

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Speaker 2: Jen they going back to the transformation thing from a human,

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we would kind of make jokes when we were around town,

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you know, we would look for people and like that

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is that the werewolf? You know, is that the guy

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that transforms? If any man that was Harry or just

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kind of looked off, we were like, I bet you

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that's him. I'm like just kind of making a joke

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out of it, just laughing. But you know, I honestly,

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truly I don't think that it's something that transforms from

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a human into a were wolf. But so dog Man

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to me, now that I'm you know, look more into it,

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dog Man seems more plausible to me than the were wolf.

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Speaker 1: Your first encounter frightened you so bad you could barely talk.

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Did you feel bad for not taking to see him

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all that seriously after he had that first experience.

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Speaker 2: I did, I really did, because the way that he

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was terrified, I was terrified as well, like I was shaking.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I see, I've grew up in the country.

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Speaker 2: I grew up hunting, I grew up fishing, I grew

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up shooting firearms and everything, and being out in the

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woods in dark time, at night time and whatnot, being

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alone in the woods. But when I seen what I seen,

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it like petrified me. I mean literally just put a

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terror inside my body like I've never spelt before.

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Speaker 3: It's it.

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Speaker 2: And you're going back to your question, Yes, I should have.

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I should have took him more serious, and I shouldn't

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have kind of poked fun at him about it. But

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then again, I was just looking for a reaction from

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him too as well.

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Speaker 3: And he did understand that.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like I was being a bully told him

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about it, because he would he would laugh about it

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too sometimes. But I shouldn't have kind of made fun

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of him the way I did.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, different than the rest of us. We've

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all been programmed to think that there's no way these

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guys could possibly be out there. So it's not a

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surprise when people respond like that. It really isn't. It's unfortunate,

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but I mean, you can't be blamed for that. It's

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not your fault. Now, you said that you don't belie

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even wear wolves, but every time you've had an encounter,

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a full moon was out. Considering that, how sure are

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you that it was a dog man and not a

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were wolf.

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Speaker 2: I won't tell it to you, like yes, my papa

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to mess old wives tale a long time. We're not

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a wise tale, but just something some information. Don't believe

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nothing you hear and only half of what you see.

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So that keeps my mind open to where I would

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like to believe it's a were wolf. But and then

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in like reality and scientific you know, reasons, I can't

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believe that it's a were wolf.

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Speaker 3: I would go more toward it.

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Speaker 2: Being a dog man because I definitely seen something has

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been seen by multiple people in this area. But as

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far as the scientific reason, I don't think a human

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could change form, you know, into something like a dog

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or a were wolf.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, that makes two of us. I'll never

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see anything as a possible But yeah, I think it's

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a lot easier to explain this way by seeing that

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these guys look the way they do twenty four seven

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three sixty five instead of it being a person who

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can try insfor m. So we got the same way

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on that. All right, Mark, please tell us about your encounters.

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Now give it several s detail it comes to mind.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, me and Sam we're out riding around in my

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GT one night and I just got straight pipes installed

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on the car as a V eight to four point six.

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But se car is real, real loud, and it is

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a full moon. And we were riding and Sam I

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had to pee and Sam did too, but he made

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me take him to a street light as always, and

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I was like, man, dude, that's ridiculous, you know. But

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he was like, it's a full moon. I ain't doing it.

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I always when I seen that thing it was a

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full moon. Well, I said, you know, let's go, let's

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let's go looking for this thing. Let's find it. And

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he's like no, no, man u huh, Like he was

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kind of opposed to it, but I talked him into it.

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Speaker 3: So we're riding around and we didn't ride around long.

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Speaker 2: After I mentioned the werewolf dog man thing with Sam

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would call it. It's a werewolf, so we'll just say werewolf.

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But as we're riding around looking for the werewolf, his

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whole demeanor changed.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: We went from laughing and cutting up and rapping and

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doing all this and that, making funny jokes and singing

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corny songs, to like he was serious over there. Well,

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it wasn't long and he was like, all right, man,

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I'm ready to go home. And I was like, already,

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it's you know, it's not even late yet. And he's like, no,

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I'm ready to go. So I took him to his house,

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which he had just got a small trailer over there

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in Roger Springs, just right up the road from Clayton's house,

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which is only about about a mile away from the

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house he grew up in. So I dropped him off

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at his trailer, and as I took off, I was

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thinking to myself, I'm gonna go by Clayton's house and

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let him hear my exhausts. And the reason I'm pointing

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that out is I could have took a right and

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drove Dishop Road all the way down to the school,

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or I could have took a left and there's a

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full way right there and that turns to Foster Road.

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But I decided I wanted to go by Clayton way.

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He could hear my exhaust. So I come out of

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Salm's house and I floored. I was burning tires and

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all that. I kicked it first, second, third, into fourth,

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and I was letting my pipes drone as I went

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by Clayton so he could hear it well. Clayton and

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then went outside, so I didn't stop, but I kept

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on going. And then that turns into Samee Road and

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you take a left, and there's a set of railroad

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tracks and them tracks go down the same way toward

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the east is where Foster Road is, so that's the

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same tracks, but it crossed seeing the tracks. That crossed

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my mind about you know, the werewolf Sam was talking about.

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So it's kind of hot and heavy on my mind

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right there. But anyways, I went on down and I

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got to Highway fifty seven and I went to take

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a left, which would be driving it back towards Tennessee

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h Middleton, Tennessee. But when I come out of there,

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I floored it, and I was caught second third and

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was just burning tires all the way through each year.

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And I got into fourth year right at about McQueen's Grocery.

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It's an old store. It's shut down now, but there

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was a gas station there and I was doing about

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one hundred and ten mile an hour. Well, I let

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off the gas and as I got back to about

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Antioch Road, he's back in it, and I was doing

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about seventy mile an hour. And this is the reason

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I'm stressing how fast I was going and how much

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noise I was making, because I never really had an

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issue with deer jumping out in front of that car,

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because they were scared off long before I got there.

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But either way, I'm doing about seventy and fourth gear

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and I'm letting my pipe drone southway Clayton and all

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of them can hear it out at their house because

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the sound.

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Speaker 3: Travels in that area.

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Speaker 2: But as I was going around the corner, there's a

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house to my left, and then right past that house,

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I said, something come running And the where the roads

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at right there, it's kind of built up and it's

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got like a small hill on each side.

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Speaker 3: Of the road, and there's a tree line too.

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Speaker 2: But it's only about fifteen foot of clear you know,

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grass area. And something come out of the woods and

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was moving, I mean fast, really really really fast, faster than.

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Speaker 3: I've ever seen any kind of animal move.

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Speaker 2: And just the way that it was running was off,

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like the back legs in the front were like meeting

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as it was like running. It was kind of like

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it was jumping with staying on the ground. And it

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was just long. This thing was huge. Now it wasn't

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like real tall, it was just very long. Well, it

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come up and like I said, all this is happening

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in a split second, and it comes up on the

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highway and I just I hit it. I didn't have

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no time to react except for I pushed in the

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clutch before I could even hit the brake. I smacked

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into it. Well when I hit that thing, like I said,

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I was doing seventy mile per hour and the cor

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about came to a complete stop till about like twenty

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mile an hour. Now I've hit deer before, I've hit dogs,

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and you know i've hit right cones, rabbits. When you

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hit something in a vehicle, you just keep going, you know,

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you don't slow down like that. Just the force of

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what I hit slowed me down that much it scared

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me in its own like instantly, I was terrified, and

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I said, oh my god, that's that freaking werewolf Sam

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was talking about. I was like, ain't the whole way.

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I'm just I'm telling this to myself. I'm thinking it

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and all of something. Like I said, when it hit

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me there or when I hit hit it knocked both

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my headlights out of my cor It wasn't like it

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done damaged to one side.

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Speaker 3: It done damaged to the whole car. But it didn't

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touch the hood.

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Speaker 2: And that was just one thing that was weird about

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it is it pushed the bumper back and it knocked

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my head light and my blinker lens out, so instantly it's.

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Speaker 3: Dark, you know.

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Speaker 2: And the uh, the bumper under the bumper cover is metal,

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but the cobra on them gts are plastic. And it

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pushed the bumper down to the ground. So I had

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sparks just flying everywhere. And the smart thing to do,

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and the right thing we're to do, is to stop

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right again, you know. But no, I was not gonna stop.

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I said, I got to get up here. There's a

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church up here to the right. So I said, I'm

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gonna make it to the church and then I'll pull

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in there where I have a light and everything else

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where I can see. So I drove another about a

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quarter to a half a mile of that church with

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no lights on my car and just sparks flying everywhere.

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And I'm instantly terrified, I mean just shaking at this point.

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So I turned into the church parking lot and I

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rolled my windows down and I could hear there was

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dogs barking everywhere. Now I'm not talking about two dogs.

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I mean it sounded like hundreds of them, just all

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the way around the primed like three hundred and sixty degrees.

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Speaker 3: There was dogs that you could hear.

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Speaker 2: From like a half a mile away to a mile

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away to almost you know, within a hundred yards, just barking.

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Speaker 3: And raising cane. Well, that just terrified me. There.

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Speaker 2: I was like, where are all these dogs at? You know,

478
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,599
it's not that much of a populated area, so it's like,

479
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,599
that is weird. So I get out and I could

480
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:31,039
hear something kind of rumbling in the woods. So I

481
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,240
jumped back up in my car. Yeah, I'm freaking out. Well,

482
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:36,519
I had a bag in my car. I caught it

483
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:39,920
the black Magic Bag. It had everything that I needed

484
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,599
in that car in case it broke down, because like

485
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:44,400
I said, I was rough on the old car and

486
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:46,359
we lived in the country, so it got tore up

487
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,559
quite often. But anyways, I had like zip ties, duct

488
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:54,359
take any kind of wrenches. I had headlights, had tail lights.

489
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,240
I had a couple of pull packs. I had some

490
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:00,559
spark plugs and stuff like that. But so I got

491
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,519
my black Magic bag out, and then also I made

492
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:06,920
sure that my guns were loaded up. So if we

493
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,200
ride around out here were guns in our vehicle. It's

494
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,000
not uncommon to have a high powered rifle and a

495
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,680
little pistol with us, so it's not uncommon. But I

496
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:16,559
made sure they were loaded up, you know, and I

497
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,720
set my thirty off six I got it ready, and

498
00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:21,319
they had a little twenty two pistol.

499
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,799
Speaker 3: Either way, I made sure they were ready.

500
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: I got out and I had to rip the bumper

501
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,000
off of the car to be able to have access

502
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,440
to the metal part that was dragging the ground. Well,

503
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,799
I ripped the bumper cover off and I threw it

504
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,640
over to the side in the woods. And you know,

505
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:42,200
I didn't feel bad about leaving it there, because I

506
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,680
do know, the pastor of that church. I was coming

507
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,799
back the next day to do it. I wasn't just littering,

508
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,279
you know, leaving my you know, parts of my car there.

509
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:52,079
But when I threw it into the woods, like I

510
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,960
heard something scrumbling around, and all of a sudden, it

511
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,480
got very very quiet.

512
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: All the dogs quit barking. It was just silent.

513
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,079
Speaker 2: And you know, if you've ever been hunting or anything,

514
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:06,440
when it gets quiet, and you know there's something to

515
00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:09,359
be looking for, because if nothing else is making noise,

516
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,119
it's hiding from the whatever it is this, you know,

517
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:16,880
disturbing the area, which could be a human or it

518
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,000
could be as this case, to wearwolf or whatever it is.

519
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: So that was my first thought, all right, it's quiet.

520
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,359
This is bad.

521
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: So I jumped back in my vehicle and I'm almost

522
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,440
at tears at this time.

523
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: I'm so scared.

524
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:32,279
Speaker 2: But either way, I hike myself up, I get back

525
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:35,839
out and I'm trying to, you know, bend this bumper

526
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,039
back up, and I can't do it. But it was

527
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:41,200
like I kind of got like a superhuman strength because

528
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,160
I was so scared. I was actually able to lift

529
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,319
the bumper up about a half an inch to an

530
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,039
inch off the ground where it went scraping. Then I

531
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:51,279
got my duct tape and my zip ties out in

532
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:54,160
the headlight and I hooked the headlight up and I

533
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,759
duct taped it on and it was nothing but a

534
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,400
bulb there, and without the lens, I couldn't really see

535
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,799
much because the lens in the vehicles actually reflects the

536
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,519
light so you can see. So either way, I left

537
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:12,079
from there, and my first thought was I gotta go

538
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,119
to Sam's house and tell him what just happened. So

539
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,000
he am going down these old country roads. Luckily it

540
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:21,960
was a full moon, so I could see a little

541
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,759
bit of that headlight. He wasn't putting out much. But

542
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,759
I pulled up at Sam's and he heard me coming

543
00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:30,079
then like he knew I was coming. He could hear it,

544
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:32,559
and as soon as I pulled up, he opened the

545
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:35,359
door and like I had like tears coming down my

546
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,400
face and I was I seen it, Sam, I seen it.

547
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,160
I seen it, And he immediately just grabs me and

548
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:45,440
like rushes me inside. Well, we sit there and we

549
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480
had a conversation. I was like, Sam, I seen it.

550
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:47,960
I seen it.

551
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: I hit it. I hit it, And he was like,

552
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,880
you know, did it kill it.

553
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, no, it didn't kill it.

554
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,119
And then we went I said, look, let's go look

555
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,799
at the damage. And I went back outside and Sam

556
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:01,160
wouldn't even go back outside. He sat on the porch.

557
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,400
But I found hair that was jammed into that bumper,

558
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,559
the bumper, like the middle bumper of the car. It

559
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,920
was like black hair jammed in it. But there wasn't

560
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,599
no blood. So I put the hair in a chip

561
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,000
bag and I rolled it up and I went on home.

562
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:23,039
And then the next day I'm got with Sam and

563
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:24,799
we went by the are you know where I ran

564
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,480
into it. You could see there was pieces of my

565
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:31,559
headlight everywhere. And we stopped and we were looking around

566
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:34,400
and Sam wouldn't go into the woods. I wanted to

567
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,359
go in the woods and try to track this thing

568
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,039
because there was nobody. That was the main thing we

569
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,880
were looking for is if I hit a deer at

570
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,319
seventy mile an hour, you know, he would kill the deer.

571
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,599
And also if I hit a dog or whatever, it

572
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920
would you kill the dog. But there was no body man.

573
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:53,160
And then about the damage on the car, what was

574
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,319
weird is it didn't even touch the bumper. I mean,

575
00:28:56,359 --> 00:29:00,759
the the hood. It only destroyed the bumper, you know, Like,

576
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:04,000
so what would I hit that was low enough to

577
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:07,920
the ground to not hit the hood and destroy it,

578
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,839
but also long enough to take out both headlights, you know.

579
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,160
So Sam's looking on the ground where the grass is

580
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,200
at and he sees the headlights and he's like, Mark,

581
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,920
there ain't no blood here anywhere.

582
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,799
Speaker 3: And I was like, I know, that's weird.

583
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: So I went on into the woods and I looked

584
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,039
for the body, but I couldn't bind one. But either way,

585
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,880
you know, it was just that was basically it.

586
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:34,319
Speaker 3: You know.

587
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,759
Speaker 2: We went back to the bumper cover where it was

588
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:38,839
that at the church and we got it. And then

589
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,519
there was hair in the bumper cover as well, and

590
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:43,440
I put the hair into a chip bag that I

591
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,480
already had collecting it. I said, that was the first

592
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:52,119
time that I seen the thing. So after that, like

593
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,920
I said, I hit whatever it is. I went around

594
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,279
telling people, hey, I hit a werewolf, and people, you know,

595
00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:59,519
would give me a funny look, you know, some believed me,

596
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:02,680
some did so I just changed it to I hit

597
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,559
a big black thing, you know, whatever it was, because

598
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,960
the facts are, I have hair in my vehicle, this

599
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,319
black and the hair also is like real thick, like

600
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:14,160
a pine needle.

601
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: You know.

602
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:19,599
Speaker 2: It's not like, how do I explain this? Like it's

603
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,240
really really stiff and really really thick, and I's thinking

604
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:25,279
but about like an inch.

605
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,079
Speaker 3: Or two long, just not that long. But so we

606
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,440
met up with Tyler martin Ow.

607
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: Now this is some time has passed after this, you know,

608
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:36,839
I'm not exactly sure how much time has passed, but

609
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,160
it's been a couple of years. And it's a full

610
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,400
moon and we're telling Tyler Martindale about the time that

611
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:47,640
we've seen this so called wearwolf, and since it was

612
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,559
a full moon, we're gonna go hunting for it. And

613
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,400
you know with Tyler, he's a rough old cat. You know,

614
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,039
he comes down from Walnut Lake and you know the

615
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,759
rough around there, so don't much scare him, you know,

616
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,480
And he's always carrying an AR fifteen and that comes

617
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:06,240
into play with the story. So it was me, Sam

618
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:11,440
and Aaron and Tyler and we're out cruising. So we

619
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,039
went down toward Roger Springs area. And let me note

620
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,200
that to see this thing we had come up with,

621
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,839
it has to be a full moon, and you have

622
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,519
to be talking about it for you to be able

623
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:27,480
to see it. And I don't know about if you know,

624
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:30,200
the human the mind is like if you are looking

625
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,480
for something, the mind's gonna you're gonna see something. So

626
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:37,000
I don't know if that's why we just so happen

627
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,440
to see it when we're talking about it, or if

628
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,759
we're actually summoning this thing up to see it. I

629
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:46,400
truly believe that we summon it up by talking about it,

630
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,559
and like it knows that we're looking for it, so

631
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,559
it'll show itself. But either way, we're riding around Roger

632
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,440
Springs and we go down Wellington Road and Wellington Road

633
00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,519
is a gravel road. It circles back around the same road.

634
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,599
And as we're coming down this road, you know, Martin

635
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,720
Day has a big old, jacked up Dodge truck. It's

636
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,359
got a diesel in it and he has the turbos

637
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,319
in it, big old stacks coming out of the back.

638
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,279
So it's really really loud, so you could hear it

639
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:17,680
coming from a mile away. But we almost at this

640
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:21,480
time haven't even realized that we're still looking for it.

641
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:23,640
We're just riding around. It ain't been in our mind.

642
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,559
We're just talking at this point, and the way this

643
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,799
road is set up. It's like a old road from

644
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:33,559
like the third nineteen thirty, so it was dug in

645
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:36,400
with bulldozers and then there's a ridge on each side,

646
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,119
like on each side of the road. It's about ten

647
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,599
to twelve foot of dirt and you're just driving through it. Well,

648
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,000
right as we're coming up, it's an old hunting cabin.

649
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:48,079
That's an abandoned house, is what it is. But it's

650
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:50,480
a hunting cabin and people come down from Memphis and

651
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:55,559
they hunt. Well, something come out from the roads from

652
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:58,799
the right side of the road and it comes down

653
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,319
the hill, down the ridge or whatever from that yard

654
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:06,440
of that house, and it shoots across the road and

655
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,680
then it goes up the.

656
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:08,599
Speaker 3: Other side of the road.

657
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: Well, Martinell floors it like warm and slims on the

658
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,839
brakes right where it crosss, and we're all looking at

659
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,799
this time. Sam's really freaking out and Loy Aaron is

660
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:22,119
going whoo, whooh, he did this little woo thing whenever

661
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,680
you know, something crazy was happening.

662
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,319
Speaker 3: He's wooing.

663
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,119
Speaker 2: I'm hooping and hollering like it's just utter chaos, you know.

664
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,799
Smrt that slams on the brakes. He pulls out that

665
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:36,839
ar fifteen and he swings it around to the driver's side,

666
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,920
like left side of the road where that thing went

667
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,599
up and right above where the Heill crest. It's like

668
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,240
a where power lines run through, so they only cut

669
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,319
the power lines once a year, so there's like little

670
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:52,640
sapling trees and there it is lo and behold the

671
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:57,599
freaking were wolf, dog man whatever. This thing is sitting

672
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,359
there staring at us, and it's just giving us like

673
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,640
an evil look, and the reflection from the light on

674
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,480
the gun is red, and we're just all silent, you know,

675
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:11,760
nobody's saying a word. But and then about that time,

676
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,679
it let out this screech. I don't know how to

677
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,000
explain the screech that this thing let out, but it

678
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:23,360
was terrifying. I mean, the decimal points. If we had

679
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,880
a decimal reader right then, it would have went off

680
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,559
the charts. It was so loud, and you could hear

681
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,320
it over the vehicle as well, sitting there Eyeland, Like

682
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,199
we had stats right there behind the cab of the truck,

683
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,599
so that was loud on its own, but to be

684
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:40,440
able to still hear it, it was just outrageous and

685
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,599
it scared all of us. And instead of Martin Delle

686
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,519
pulling the trigger and shooting whatever, it was like, he

687
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:48,840
had a laser on that gun too, and the laser

688
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,840
was pointing on the thing. The light the flashlight was

689
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,280
pointing on it, and the eyes were just like glowing red.

690
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,760
And now I don't think, I don't know if they

691
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,840
were just glowing red like that they stay red, but

692
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,079
the flashlight was making the eyes red on this thing.

693
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,960
And it was just evil looking. Man, it just it

694
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:11,079
was evil, like you could just sense that. It was

695
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:13,800
just I don't know, it was mean, whatever it was.

696
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,199
And instead of pulling the trigger, Martindale drops his gun

697
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:21,119
and just floors it and takes off. And by this

698
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,440
time Sam said go go go, and there's like go.

699
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:27,400
We're all saying go, go go, and it's kind of

700
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,800
just silence after that, and we're not really saying much.

701
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,239
But then Tyler's like, dude, who was that? And we

702
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,039
were like what do you mean? He was like who

703
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:41,440
was that? And we're like, dude, that's the werewolf.

704
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Who was that?

705
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,639
Speaker 2: And he was like, no, man, y'all are playing a

706
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:48,119
trick on me. That ain't no, that's somebody in a

707
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:51,840
gorilla suit, and we're like, dude, Tyler, no, I promise

708
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,440
you that is not nobody in a gorilla suit. We

709
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,360
are not messing with you. And he just kind of

710
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,679
chuckle us. But he's still kind of scared too, so

711
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,840
he don't know what to bleed whether we're playing a frank.

712
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:04,679
Speaker 3: On him or not. And we wasn't. I mean, we

713
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,159
was not franking this guy at all.

714
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: But I said, we're coming down that gravel road. As

715
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,519
fast as we could go in that truck.

716
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: It would run his tail off. He could run.

717
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:16,679
Speaker 2: Bout eight seven to eight seconds and eighth of a

718
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,679
mile locked in full of drive. So I had a

719
00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:21,199
good take off. But we come to the end of

720
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:23,480
the gravel road, the sane road, and he kicks it

721
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,159
and goes wide open. He starts slowing down and sayings

722
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:28,840
like no, dude, don't slow down, keep going, keep going.

723
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,760
So he floors it and we're moving it probably a

724
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,840
little bit over one hundred mile an hour coming down

725
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,920
this road. Well, there's a house to our left ahead

726
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,920
of us, and it has trees growing in like a hedgerow,

727
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:45,320
and you like, I remember, it's it's a full moon,

728
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,639
so you can see everything just perfect and in between

729
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,239
one of the trees and the hedgerow was the werewolf

730
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,400
sitting there. And it was kind of just sitting up

731
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,519
with it's like its fist on the ground, its head

732
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:04,000
was moving straight forward. The best way to describe it

733
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,880
looked like kind of like a gargoyle, like a statue

734
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,760
sitting there. And I mean it was tall. I mean

735
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,119
this thing was huge sitting there like that. And as

736
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,480
we went by it, you know, nobody said nothing because

737
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:20,639
neither everybody was like did we see that?

738
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: Or did we not see that? And I finally said,

739
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,719
did y'all see that?

740
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: And then Sam was like, oh my god, I seen

741
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,800
it too, and then Tyler said he seen it too,

742
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,840
and then Aaron said he seen it too. And I

743
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,840
mean it was just it was outrageous. How could whatever

744
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,800
we seen on Wellington Road be, you know, five miles

745
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,239
down the road before us and still be standing there

746
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,159
waiting for us to come by. It's it's like impossible

747
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:49,599
because that truck is fast on its own, so nothing

748
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,679
could have beat us there, even if somebody was in

749
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,519
a sports car, it could not have beat us there.

750
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:57,920
The only way something could be there before us if

751
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,400
it flew like it in like an reality in our world,

752
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,320
like a helicopter could have made it there, but nothing

753
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,800
with wheels or anything like that. But but after that,

754
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,360
we dropped Sam off, we dropped Aaron off, and then

755
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,679
I was the last one to get dropped off because

756
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,639
really I'm the only reason Tyler's there too is because

757
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:17,400
like we're friends.

758
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: We had met up there at the gas station.

759
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:23,639
Speaker 2: Years before at Cardwell State Line and we got introduced

760
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:25,599
to each other, and he was actually there to see me.

761
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:30,039
So I was the last one who like he trusted me,

762
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,280
Like he don't really trust Sam or Aaron, but he

763
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,840
knew he could trust me. And he looked at me

764
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,960
in the face and he almost had tears coming to

765
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:40,519
his eyes and he was like, who were who was

766
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:41,639
in the gorilla suits?

767
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: Man? Tell me? And I said, Tyler, dude, that was

768
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,360
not nobody in a gorilla suit. That is a werewolf.

769
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,679
Speaker 2: I promise you, man, we see this thing. This ain't

770
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,960
the first time we seen it. Tyler, like we have

771
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:55,079
seen this thing. He was like, no, man, y'all are

772
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:57,400
tricking me. And then he got like kind of mad

773
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,760
at me, and like he was like kind of like

774
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,039
kind of like I was like, is this dude about

775
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,199
to fight me, like it's my buddy, you know. But

776
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:08,199
he's like, don't you ever ever pull a prank on

777
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,719
me like that again? Never do he said, I'll never

778
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,199
come back up here again if y'all ever do that

779
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,760
to me again. So I was like, all right, man,

780
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,039
So I got my car and he took off. And

781
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:21,559
to be honest, even to this day, he still thinks

782
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,639
that we were pranking him by having somebody in a

783
00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:28,199
gorilla suit or something to scare him. But for one,

784
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,760
like we know, when we know Martinelle's crazy anyways, I mean,

785
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,400
we know he has that aar. I'm not going to

786
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,159
put somebody in a gorilla suit for him to point

787
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:40,800
a gun at because, for all I figured he would

788
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,559
have shocked the thing, you know. So that's for one point,

789
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,800
he should understand that we were not tricking him.

790
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,679
Speaker 3: And for two, how would.

791
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,599
Speaker 2: We have got somebody else in the uh that yard

792
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:55,519
of that house, you know, posted up in that tree

793
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,400
line so fast we didn't know what direction you were

794
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,039
coming from. So there's no way that we could have

795
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:04,599
tricked him, you know. But in the back of his mind,

796
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:07,280
I think he knows that we really seen something. But

797
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,360
he still thinks retricking. So that kind of ended, that

798
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,440
night ended and whatever, but it still became a thing

799
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:18,199
that when it was a full moon, we would go

800
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,840
looking for the thing, but not always would we see it.

801
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,719
And then another encounter where we've kind of seen it

802
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,840
but we didn't. It was just something that was spooky.

803
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:30,480
It was a full moon and we're out looking for

804
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,719
the thing, and we're down in Wolfpen. And Wolfpen is

805
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,480
a little bit east of Middleton, down past Pocahontas, and

806
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:43,159
it's a different area than Roger Springs and technically the

807
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,119
only place we've ever seen this thing is in Rogers Springs,

808
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:48,519
but we're down in wolf Pen looking too as well.

809
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: Well.

810
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: I take a left down a gravel road it's called

811
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,400
Matthis Lane. It's right off wolf Pen, and we're cruising

812
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,199
down through there, and I put a cigarette out in

813
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,320
a mountain dew that Sam was drinking on an accident

814
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,440
just out of habit, you know, wouldn't malicious actor nothing,

815
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,920
But he went and he took a drink.

816
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:13,559
Speaker 3: Out of that mountains. He took his swig of that thing.

817
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it was he up and he already has

818
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,519
a weak stomach as it is, so you know that

819
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:23,440
was rough on him, but he drunk that mountain dew

820
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,480
and he's like, oh man, there's a cigarette in it.

821
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:28,239
And he threw it out of the window with like

822
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:31,719
I mean, just as hard as he could and we

823
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,400
could hear it. It landed out in the woods. Like

824
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,800
So we're only creeping at this time too. We're doing

825
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,000
about fifteen mile an hour, just kind of idling through there.

826
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:43,840
But at the end of this road now or matthis

827
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,119
lane road, it's an old house and an old barn,

828
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:50,159
and it's just a spooky area, and you know, with

829
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:53,760
a full moon and everything, it just made it extra spooky.

830
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,119
So I think Sam or bj one of them was liked,

831
00:41:57,159 --> 00:41:58,119
we got to get out of here.

832
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: So we turned around and we're on our way out

833
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:06,159
and that mountain dew can was sitting straight in the

834
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:10,159
middle of the road. Now, this road, there is nobody

835
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:12,880
that lives down it. The only house is that old

836
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,039
abandoned farm, and there was the mountain dew can sitting

837
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:19,679
straight in the middle of the road. So there we go.

838
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 2: That all it took for is you know, of the

839
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,840
wolf man or were wolf dog man, whatever it is

840
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,760
is watching us. So that was enough for us.

841
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 3: For the night and we went on home. After that

842
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,599
we quit looking.

843
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: But and then the last encounter that I had that

844
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:40,800
I seen whatever this creature is. I was at my

845
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,800
house and it was a full moon and my pet.

846
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,719
I lived at this house. It was the same house

847
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,480
I grew up in. My parents had got a divorce

848
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,679
and I was able to take over the mortgage of

849
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,039
the house and I was living there by myself. But

850
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,519
I had a girlfriend at the time and she was there,

851
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,960
and I had two dogs and a cat but I

852
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,639
had Their names were pej As the cat Clutch was

853
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,519
the black dog, and Susie Cues the white dog. Now Susie,

854
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:11,199
she's still around this. She's about close to fourteen fifteen

855
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,159
years old now believe. But she was born in twenty

856
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,159
eleven and it's currently two thousand and twenty five, so

857
00:43:18,199 --> 00:43:20,239
she's getting on up there. But she was young at

858
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,039
the time. And I believe this was around two thousand

859
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:25,920
and fourteen. Now, don't get me wrong, Like I said,

860
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:28,199
this has been years ago, but I'm pretty sure it

861
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,440
was twenty fourteen.

862
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: And like I said, it's a full moon.

863
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:35,519
Speaker 2: And where the house is, we call it the plantation

864
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,320
because my dad's dad's dad, which is my great grandfather,

865
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,960
bought this land back in the nineteen twenties, like nineteen

866
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,000
twenty eight. It's about fifteen hundred acres and he started

867
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,119
a saw mill out there and he used to run

868
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:56,960
that saw mill and then he used to cook a

869
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,280
little bit of moonshine on the side too, and he

870
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,440
had like nine steals out in that area.

871
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 3: But either way, like I said, it's a big plot

872
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:05,800
of land.

873
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: And where my house is is at the beginning of

874
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,000
the road and it was built in probably the nineteen

875
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,159
fifty five, I believe, And when my dad was in

876
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,519
the second grade, he come to visit our cousins that

877
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:20,840
lived there and he said, when I grow up, I'm

878
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,559
gonna buy this house. And that's what he done, you know,

879
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,239
when he got old enough, he bought the house from him.

880
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:31,800
So where the house is sitting, there is a big

881
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,519
field in the front, and then behind the house we

882
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:36,719
have a shopping and shed and all that, and then

883
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,000
across the creek there's an old barn and what not.

884
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,159
But you can see a pretty good area around the house.

885
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,840
And something was disturbing the dogs, like the dogs were

886
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,920
raising cane and I was like, oh, God, it's a

887
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,440
full moon tonight, you know. So I told old girl.

888
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,440
I'm not gonna say her name, but I told old girl.

889
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,280
I was like, it's a full moon tonight and dogs

890
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,119
are barking. And when I say that, she automatically knows

891
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:05,480
about the werewolf because when it's a full moon, anybody

892
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,599
in my circle knows it. So we mentioned full moon.

893
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,639
So she kind of gives me to look, you know,

894
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,400
of doubt. She believes me, but you know, she thinks

895
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,480
we're just crazy whatever. We didn't really see nothing, that

896
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:16,960
we might be making it up, but.

897
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: She gives me a look.

898
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,119
Speaker 2: Now, I go outside and Clutch is inside, but Susie

899
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:26,960
Q is already outside on the porch barking. Well, when

900
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,920
I opened the door up, Clutch wouldn't go outside. I mean,

901
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,559
that dog followed me everywhere.

902
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: He was cool.

903
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: He used to ride a dirt bike with me, and

904
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,760
that's why I got his name Clutch. But anywhere I went,

905
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,480
that dog went. But he would not follow me outside

906
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,119
that night and I come out onto the porch and

907
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,119
I'm scanning and I can see the front field and

908
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:50,599
there's nothing there. And then I see Susie and I'm like,

909
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:52,639
let's go get it. Go get it, girl, And she

910
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,800
runs off the porch, and I'm expecting her to do

911
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,239
her normal and to go chase whatever this is. You know,

912
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,079
we're gonna chase it down, and like we used to

913
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:03,840
coon hunt with that dog too, So I was ready

914
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,039
to go right behind her too and go get whatever

915
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,880
it is. But when she went down the steps, she

916
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:13,079
looked to the left of the house and just turned

917
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,360
around and ran back up to the steps.

918
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, what is it?

919
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,239
You know? So I immediately was.

920
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,159
Speaker 2: Kind of, you know, freaked out in my own but

921
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:23,840
I mustered up the string and I went down the

922
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,559
steps and I looked to the left. And when I

923
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:29,280
tell you the most this is probably the most clear

924
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,760
description I ever got of the werewolf dog man thing

925
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:37,320
was this night, and it was terrifying. I looked to

926
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,280
my left and where the porch light, you know, it

927
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,119
illuminates the yard, there's right there at the edge of

928
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:48,039
where the porch light illuminates there. It was kind of

929
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:52,840
in the darkness, and it was staring straight at me.

930
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,400
And this night, the os wasn't red. And this is

931
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,679
the thing that was just the most description thing about

932
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,920
it that scare me. As the eyes it wasn't like

933
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,480
they were looking straight at me. It was kind of

934
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:08,280
like they were looking through me and around me like

935
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,400
they wasn't They were like kind of betruding to the side,

936
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:14,119
kind of it wasn't just straight ahead. And the best

937
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,480
I could describe it, it looked like a deer standing

938
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:19,920
on its hind legs, but it wasn't a deer. I know,

939
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,880
the deer looks like, but it wasn't. And it wasn't

940
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,239
like real muscular, like it was really really skinny and

941
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,639
bony in the way that every the joints of it. Man,

942
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,119
it was just creepy looking like it was something very abnormal.

943
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,480
The bones were just protruding outward, and it was standing

944
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:44,400
about like seven to eight foot maybe even ten fock,

945
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,920
I want to say, seven to ten foot tall, and

946
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,440
it's just looking at me, staring, And at this time

947
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,320
he didn't have his arms on the ground like it

948
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,639
was at night whenever we were going by on that

949
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:58,599
house where it looked like a statue. But it was

950
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:02,239
just like it was staring at me. And I didn't

951
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,119
take you know, just a few seconds, and I turned

952
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:08,960
around and I ran back up in the house. And

953
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:12,320
I was just, I mean terrified, and like I said,

954
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,840
Susie already was ready to run. I think Susie was

955
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,639
already in the house. But the door of the house

956
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,239
was open, I said. When I busted through the door,

957
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,880
I shut the door, I locked it, I hit the

958
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,440
dead bolt.

959
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: Lot.

960
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,119
Speaker 2: I turned around. I told old girl, I go to

961
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,079
the bedroom. Go go co co co and we ran. We

962
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,639
all ran, and the dogs and all we all ran

963
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,239
back to my bedroom. I locked the door and I

964
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,760
grabbed my thirty six, cocked it, and I peeped out

965
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,119
of the window on that side of the house. You

966
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,239
could see where it was and there was nothing there. Man,

967
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,719
that thing it was gone. And you know, that's what

968
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,559
really scared me the most. And I have not went

969
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:50,840
out looking for this thing ever since, and tried to

970
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,639
talk about it on the full moon, but it just

971
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,440
terrified me that it knew where I lived at. Like

972
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:00,239
you know, now, I'm thinking, okay, it's kind of got

973
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,719
a mark on me, like he knows where I'm at.

974
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:07,440
So I kind of took it serious, man, And oh girl,

975
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:09,719
she could tell that I was scared too, you know,

976
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:12,800
And I was just kind of just sitting there shaking man,

977
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,920
and it's almost just about to cry. And you know,

978
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,320
I was full grown at this time, paying bills on

979
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,320
my own, had a job. I was in college for

980
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,639
industrial maintenance. And here I am a grown man sitting

981
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:26,599
there terrified on the edge of my bed with a gun,

982
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,119
thinking that some creatures that are come and get me.

983
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,679
But like I said, after that night, I haven't seen

984
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,320
it since. But I have told the story to other

985
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,800
people around this area and they have seen it. Like

986
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,440
Chris Bradley and Dustin they have all seen it too.

987
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:48,239
One night I was telling them a story and there

988
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,719
they lived down Antioch Road, which is kind of in

989
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,440
the area of Roger Springs, and they swear they have

990
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:58,400
seen it there a couple of times. Another girl, Ashley,

991
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,000
which is old girl sister, she had seen it, she said,

992
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:05,440
down in wolf Pen area, and she actually got a

993
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,800
little small video of it. She had sent it to me,

994
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,280
but aither way she had said she's seen it. And then,

995
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,079
like I said, my brother had seen it with Sam

996
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,159
one night, and my brother said it had to have

997
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:19,000
been a bear, you know, that's the best thing he

998
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:19,599
could describe.

999
00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: It was a bear.

1000
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,559
Speaker 2: But and then just the other day, whenever I called you,

1001
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,079
and I was telling you you I got a Thanksgiving

1002
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:28,239
dinner and I was trying to plan our phone call

1003
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,840
around that. I was telling my old lady about it, Caitlyn,

1004
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,800
and she was at her sister's house and her told her.

1005
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,440
She told her sister, you know, I was going to

1006
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,320
contact you, And she said that one of her husband's

1007
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,920
friends had seen something that was like a werewolf down

1008
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,039
in Hatchie Bottom as well. So I'm one hundred percent sure.

1009
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:52,039
Like I said, there is something around here that is

1010
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,440
not in the normal books that we learn about.

1011
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 3: And it does.

1012
00:50:56,639 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 2: It does come out on a full moon, but in

1013
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,119
my opinion, I think it stays dormant for a while

1014
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:04,239
and then it comes out, and I think it gets

1015
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,800
off on by terrifying me or Sam or whoever, like

1016
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,199
anybody that it knows that has seen it and is

1017
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,920
actively looking forward. It'll show himself, but you have to

1018
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,559
go looking for him. But except I don't think it's

1019
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:19,199
out to kill anybody or me or anybody else, but

1020
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,760
you never know, you know, it could be it could

1021
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,360
have malicious intent. And there is a lot of creatures

1022
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,000
out here that we you know, we're not aware about.

1023
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,880
You know that the I want to say the government,

1024
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:36,639
but just that people don't talk about because they kind

1025
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:39,159
of want to protect these creatures. And if you read back,

1026
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,599
I've done a lot of research on the werewolf type

1027
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,800
deal and they the fightings go back all the way

1028
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,360
into when the Indians were on this continent, the North

1029
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,599
American continent, and you know, they had true beliefs of it.

1030
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: And you know, if you if you do come and

1031
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:57,559
counter with one, try not.

1032
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:00,159
Speaker 2: To get scared and get a picture, because that's one

1033
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,039
thing I don't understand is we have so many deer

1034
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:07,039
cameras out here in the world. I mean, there's hundreds

1035
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:10,519
of millions of deer cameras everywhere in the woods. And

1036
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:13,760
I won't say there ain't pictures of them, but with

1037
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,920
all the AI and stuff like that, you don't know

1038
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,239
what to bleed, but you would think that there would

1039
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,159
be pictures of them everywhere. But it's kind of like

1040
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,440
they're sneaky enough and fly enough not to get caught.

1041
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know, Vick.

1042
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: It's just it's real weird. And you know, I've come

1043
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,679
across your account. Actually a guy Chris at work. He's

1044
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:35,880
the one that introduced me to your account because I

1045
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,480
was telling him the story of it. He said, you know,

1046
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:41,519
check out dog man Encounters on YouTube, and you could

1047
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:44,480
also probably get on the website and see if you

1048
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,400
could submit your story and see if you could talk

1049
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,880
to that guy. So, but Vic, there's definitely something out here.

1050
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:53,800
I mean, these people they're not just seeing nothing. It's something.

1051
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Matt, and you saw it yourself multiple times,

1052
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,639
so there definitely is some there there.

1053
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1054
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: Had you heard about anything like a dog man being

1055
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,119
in the area before two thousand and eight when see

1056
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:08,199
him had that first experience.

1057
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: No, which you know I was.

1058
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: I was kind of young at that time as well,

1059
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,440
and you know, I've heard stories, but nothing like personal

1060
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:20,760
that someonney has said. You know, hey, I've seen a

1061
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,760
werewolf out here. You know, we had we had black

1062
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,400
panthers that we would hear as a child around the

1063
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,639
house screaming. But if you look at our census for

1064
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,519
the animals, and you know, you ask wildlife authorities, we

1065
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:36,039
don't have panthers around, but we would hear them. It

1066
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,559
kind of sounds like a woman screaming in the distance.

1067
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,840
But that just kind of makes me think, you know,

1068
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:43,880
was that the dog man that I was hearing all

1069
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,199
still on growing up, because it kind of sounded like

1070
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:49,440
the same scream we heard that night with Tyler, but

1071
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,320
it wasn't as like womanlike as a scream we would

1072
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,960
hear around the plantation growing up.

1073
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny to think that these guys were probably

1074
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,440
in that area for as long as you've been rooming

1075
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,960
those woods. But he never had an experience until two

1076
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,559
thousand and eight. There, it's just a lot to wrap

1077
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,599
your head around, it really is. It's been a while

1078
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:11,559
too since see him had his experiences, the first one

1079
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:14,079
in two thousand and eight, of course, and then he

1080
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,119
was with you when he had that second encounter that

1081
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:16,559
he had.

1082
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:19,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, Vick, I've been working night shift now for

1083
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:22,840
about five years, and I got a son, and I

1084
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,960
got a wife now, and I don't go out much

1085
00:54:25,039 --> 00:54:26,719
no more, and I haven't been able to see Sam.

1086
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,000
But I did call him the other day. I didn't

1087
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:32,039
call him, I was texting him on his YouTube channel.

1088
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:34,719
He has a YouTube channel. He does gun reviews and stuff.

1089
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,119
But I told him I was gonna come see him,

1090
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,079
and I didn't say nothing about the encounter, but I

1091
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:42,800
could guarantee you even though I haven't seen Sam in

1092
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,800
a while. He is just as terrified today if he

1093
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:49,000
was when he's seen it when he was a child

1094
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:52,599
that night down at the Roger Sprains Dunk, just as

1095
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:56,880
terrified of it. I could guarantee it, because even though

1096
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,719
like even and then, that's been what is from two

1097
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,400
thousand and eight till it was twenty twenty five, you know,

1098
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,760
I can promise you he still is terrified to this day.

1099
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,360
And I'm gonna I'm gonna try to go to his

1100
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,440
house sometime this week. I got a full work schedule

1101
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,559
ahead of me this week. I'll be off Sunday, but

1102
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:16,000
I'm gonna go and I'm gonna get with him, and

1103
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,639
I'm gonna call you back, and I'm gonna let him

1104
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:21,119
tell his experience that night to you so you can

1105
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:23,920
hear it as well. And like I said, and he

1106
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,960
would probably even remember other things about them nights that

1107
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,280
we've seen it too, you know, other descriptions and stuff

1108
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,840
that would be you know, it would have it would

1109
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,360
benefit you as into your investigations into the dog Man.

1110
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:39,400
So I'm definitely gonna get back with you whenever I

1111
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,480
can get a hold of him.

1112
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me know, because i'd love to talk with him.

1113
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,440
Sounds like he could use some help. That's horrible that

1114
00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:48,840
it's affecting him that way is still at the present day.

1115
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,519
But yeah, if I can help him, I definitely will. Now,

1116
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:54,880
speaking of help, how about you, It's spent a long

1117
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,800
time since you had that last encounter on the scale

1118
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,760
of one to ten, How are you doing now.

1119
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: To put it on a scale to one to ten.

1120
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,639
I mean, just the type of person I am. I

1121
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:12,199
try not to show fear, but I'm still scared of

1122
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,000
it today as I was when I seen it the

1123
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:16,800
last time. And I could sit there and try to

1124
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,159
sound macho and say, oh, I would try to do

1125
00:56:20,199 --> 00:56:23,039
something different this time if I seen it like, I

1126
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:23,559
don't want to.

1127
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 3: And that's one thing.

1128
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to shoot the thing either, because it's

1129
00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:29,559
kind of like there's a there was an albino turkey

1130
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:32,079
in my area growing up, and I wouldn't shoot the

1131
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:34,239
albino turkey, and I don't want to shoot this thing.

1132
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,800
But I would definitely want to get that hair that

1133
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,000
I have. I want to get it, you know, analyzed,

1134
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:42,800
and have a test done and see what type of

1135
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,480
animal it is. And I would just like to try

1136
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:47,360
to get a video of it this time, you know,

1137
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,559
a good video, just to have proof to myself, you

1138
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,079
know that this thing does exist. So back to your

1139
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:56,599
question on one to ten, I'm doing great as a

1140
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,679
number ten, but also still terrified of the thing because

1141
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,079
I'm pretty sure if I seen it again, It's like

1142
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:06,400
this thing when it sees you, it has this way

1143
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,559
of just putting fear in you because you're raised to

1144
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,880
know that it's not right, and something that you know

1145
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,519
is not right, it's going to scare you. And just

1146
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:19,480
the thought of how I know this thing can move

1147
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:22,400
Like that night we've seen it with Tyler, Dude, it

1148
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,000
was we were five miles down the road or so

1149
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,119
and this thing beat us there. So I mean there's

1150
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:31,679
I'm defenseless against the thing, you know, like there's nothing

1151
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:34,360
I could do, and if it wanted to snatch me up,

1152
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,239
it could. And you know there are disappearances, you know

1153
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,239
in the world. People disappear. It just makes you think,

1154
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,719
you know, it is dog man, the culprit of that

1155
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,960
or any kind of other creature, you know, because we

1156
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,599
always want to point the fingers and like maybe somebody

1157
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:53,239
got kidnapped or abducted or something like that. But it

1158
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,400
could be a cryptid out of here that could kill

1159
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,719
someone and there's no trace of them. So that's in

1160
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,400
the back of my mind, and I don't want that

1161
00:57:59,400 --> 00:57:59,960
to happen to me.

1162
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:03,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely don't want that to happen to you either,

1163
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:07,000
No or what happened to know? Yeah, that wouldn't be

1164
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,039
a good thing at all. And they just might be

1165
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:12,119
responsible for a lot of the missing person cases. They

1166
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:16,719
probably aren't responsible for at least some of them. But yeah,

1167
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,760
the fact that they'll let so many people go when

1168
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,880
they could snatch them up, that counts for something. It

1169
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,159
really does. But having said that, Mark, we're out of time.

1170
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:29,000
But I've got a ton of questions for you. Would

1171
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:31,000
you be up with coming back to do a part

1172
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,639
two where I could do a Q and A with you?

1173
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

1174
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:36,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, And by the time we do the Q and A,

1175
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,880
I'll try to get a hold the same And ye know, Mike,

1176
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,599
Hal have some questions answer you that you have about

1177
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:43,800
here has the counter as well?

1178
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh good, Yeah, sounds like a plan. We'll just do

1179
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,480
that then. But having said that, thanks again so much

1180
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,960
for coming on to share those experiences with us. I

1181
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,360
really appreciate it and of course I'll get with you

1182
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,960
to schedule that part two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Vick, I'll braciate you having me out taking the time.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, you're welcome. That's what I'm here for.

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Thanks again for your time, and have a great night.