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Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, well.
Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. We appreciate your time. Mark. Please
give us a brief bio in yourself.
Speaker 2: All right, my name is Mark. I was born in
nineteen ninety one. I was born in Memphis, Tennessee, but
I was raised in a smaller country town. It's Middleton, Tennessee.
It's about sixty miles i'd say, east of Memphis. So
and we just got a red light, a dollar general,
about two gas stations, and a hardware store and that's
about it.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a small town with just one red light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not even a red light either, it's
just a blinking light.
Speaker 3: You just pull up. It's got a full way and
you just ease on through.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that might see that
as being a drawback, but you know, there are a
lot of good things that come along with that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not too far from any kind of bigger
city either. So it's kind of secluded in a way,
but you can drive twenty minutes and you can be
at a Walmart as well and be into a town.
So it's I like it. It's little more secluded. It's
slow living and you kind of know everybody around you
and kind of get a gist of what's going on too.
Speaker 3: So we don't have high crime or nothing like that.
Speaker 1: So oh no, I bet you don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For me, I don't know. It's like being raised in
the country.
Speaker 2: I pick up a lot of skills that people wouldn't
live in the city. But that also goes both ways
as well, But I just prefer the country myself.
Speaker 1: Well that makes two of us. I don't blame you there. Mark.
Around two thousand and eight, when you were around sixteen
years old, a friend of your has told you about
something he saw that really shook him up. Well, where
can you tell us about that?
Speaker 2: So he was his name Sam, and we've been best friends.
The first time we ever met was actually on the
school bus. We rode the same school bus as Bush
twenty six, and I believe it or not, we got
into a fight the first time we met, and we
were arguing, and I said, he dared me to hit him,
and I took a pin out of my pocket and
I drew an X on his face and I punched
him square in the face. Well, of course we had
to go to the principal and everything. And once we
were on the way to the principal's office, they just
so happened called our names over the intercom and we met.
We said he when we go on the office list,
were tend like we're friends, and that we did this
on purpose.
Speaker 3: So we did that.
Speaker 2: We went into the office and we told the principal
that we were just playing. Well, just so happened. After
all that, we just became best friends. And we played
baseball together as well, so we're pretty close knit. And
we met probably fourth grade, I would say, And like
I said, we just became best buds. And we had
a small group of people, everybody that rode Bush twenty six.
We all hung out outside of school as well. Sam
lived on the kind of like the western part of
the county and then I lived on the southern part,
which is only about ten miles from each other.
Speaker 3: But he lived in.
Speaker 2: The community called Roger Springs and I lived down by
the state line. So and like I said, but we
used to always ride bicycles and go out and have
a good time like kids would do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Sam one night when nobody was around, so he got
out on his bike and he was going down Foster
Road and it's a big old long hill and then
there's a railroad track and you could kind of jump
the track if you get going fast enough. Well, that's
what his point was. And also to tell it was
a full moon that night, and like you could see everything.
So that is one reason he was going righting too
down the road is you could see. Well, he come
down that hill and he jumped the tracks and he
slammed on his brakes and he slid sideways. And there's
kind of a gravel parking lot where dumps at right there.
We used to have dump sites in the county. That
would be about four dumpsters set up and people of
that far of the county could just go take their
trash there, which you know, you'd have a lot of
people that would throw dead carcasses out and they would
throw stuff beside the cans and stuff like. That's kind
of a trashy area, you know, it's there wasn't the
best looking spot, but that's just what we have. So
when he come down there, he slammed on his brakes
and right there were beside the track, there's a lot
of gravel on the road, and he slid his bike
sideways and he's seen something. Now that's corn design. He
looked over and for what he described it was, it
was something eating a dead carcass right there in the ditch,
and it rose up out of the ditch, and he
said he looked it dead in the face, and he
got so scared he just turned around and he took off. Now,
it didn't chase him or anything like that, but it
gave him a big scare. And he went home and
he told his dad about it, and his dad was like, oh,
that wasn't nothing, you know, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: But he was seriously terrified.
Speaker 2: And the next night or whatever, we came out and
he was telling us about it. Was, I say, the
next night, the next day he was telling us about it,
and he didn't he couldn't explain what it was, but
he knew it was some kind of creature. And that
night he would not come out after dark to ride
bikes with us and hang out and all we were like, what, like,
we didn't believe We did believe him, but we didn't
want to believe him, you know. It was like there's
got to be some kind of explanation. Well, well after
about a week or so, he was doing research over
at Brandon Neil's house on the computer and he come
to the determination it was a werewolf is what he's seen.
So then he goes and he tells his dad. You know,
what he's saying is a werewolf. And his dad was like,
don't ever, don't go around telling nobody you've seen that.
That was probably somebody in the mask trying to scare you. Well,
sounds like, no, that wasn't nobody in a mask.
Speaker 3: I seen that.
Speaker 2: He was a full body, like you could tell what human.
It was like seven foot tall. Well, after his dad
told him that somebody in the mask, he kind of,
you know, kind of discouraged him, I guess from talking
about it much. But he would tell us among our
group friend you know, the group of us. So once
he found out there's a werewolf, he just went around
all the time when we were riding, he would always
be scared and tell us he's seen a were wolf. Well,
as years go on. He still would not when we
were riding around once we got our driver's license and stuff.
He would only pee where there was a street lark,
Like if we were riding around on a back road
and we all had to beee, he would not get
out of the vehicle unless there was a streetlight. And
also ania back up a little bit. He wouldn't come
out outside for about a year after dark after this
too as well. So like he was genuinely terrified and
it we kind of made fun of him about it,
you know, poke at him, and he would just swear
that he was dead serious about it.
Speaker 1: You told him that you wanted to go out looking
for that werewolf, And what I understand, did you take
him seriously when he told you about what he had
seen or did you think he was full of it?
Speaker 2: Well, the first time he told us about it, you know,
after that night, I was kind of skeptical of what
he's saying. You know, I believed he's seen something, but
I wasn't too sure that he's seen a werewolf like
he said he did. And even at the time, he
didn't know what he's saying. But he researched for brandon
Nell on the computer and he come to the conclusion
that it's a werewolf. So you know, I kind of
him yes and then kind of no. But the determination
of him being so terrified after that encounter when it happened,
he wouldn't go outside for like a year past dark,
And you know that if he didn't see anything, then
he wouldn't be terrified and wouldn't want to go out
past dark if he was wanting to hang out with
his friend. So he really was scared. So that made
me kind of believe it, but I still kind of not.
But then another thing though, is as the years went on,
once we got our driver's license, he wouldn't when we
were riding around and we had to pee or something.
He would only stop if there was a street light.
And once you're riding around with buddies for hours and hours,
you got to feel a lot. So but he would
not be unless we were at the street light. He
would make me take him to an area where it
was real lighted up and bright. So at this point
I believe him more than I previously did when he
first told me about it, because I could tell that
he was serious.
Speaker 3: You know, when he would get this like.
Speaker 2: Look on his face every time we started talking about it,
like he would genuinely get scared.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure would. Yeah, that's a pretty normal response
to an experience like that. But also, on the other hand,
I can understand why you were kind of skeptical, because
that's a pretty big step to go from not having
a clue these things are out there to having your
bud telling you about an experience like that. So, like
I said, I get it, I really do. If you've
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Were you afraid to come out after dark too? The
way he was after that.
Speaker 3: You know, yes and no.
Speaker 2: At the same time, I want it to be more
of like a macho man type thing and be like, oh,
don't nothing scare me.
Speaker 3: But in the back of my mind, yeah, it was
on my thoughts, and.
Speaker 2: I would say that it did affect me as well,
being so close to him as we were best friends,
in the way that he acted about it, because I
could tell he was telling me the truth, you know,
So it did and it didn't, But I wanted to
see what he was talking about, Like I was like,
if I get this, I really would like to know
what he's seen that night.
Speaker 1: Man. Well, like you found out, be careful what you
wish for.
Speaker 3: It, because that is right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes if you go around shaking too many trees, a
leopard falls out.
Speaker 3: That is right, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Do you think any of the weird
wolves that you've seen were the same one that see
him saw or do you think they were all different?
Speaker 3: No? Absolutely, is the same. One is the same one.
Speaker 2: And my I truly believe that whatever it is that
we seen knows who we are, and it gets off
on by scaring us, like as I'll tell you'll learn
later on in the story, like it knows where I live,
It knows where he lives and has kept track of
us over the years, because like I said, this what
just one siding in one year. It was sightings over
the period of about five to six years. So it definitely,
it definitely is the same one.
Speaker 1: Yes, one thing to see a dog man or a
werewolf like we've been calling them tonight. But if you
see one away from your home, that's one thing. If
they know where you live and they make it clear
that they do by paying you visits. Yeah, that takes
it to a whole new level. That's horrible, it really is.
It's one thing to just have one dog me in
the encounter, but when you have several encounters with them
the way you have, that's got a way of normalizing
dog men for an eyewitness, or normalizing dog men for
an eyewitness, I should say. In other words, it makes
it easy to believe that there's a dog man hiding
behind every tree. With that in mind, can you go
outside at night now without getting the hebgbis.
Speaker 2: Every time I go out at night, I think about it.
It's right there in the back.
Speaker 3: Of my mind. It really is. Now.
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't think it's out to hurt anyone,
but still just the thought of that, Yeah, if something
a twig breaks over in the side yard or something,
and I don't I can't exactly pinpoint what broke that twig.
In the back of my mind, I'm like, is that
thing watching me? You know? It's just and you know worse,
I am calling it a werewolf. But it's very hard
for me to believe that there's a human that transforms
into another creature. I don't really believe that I believe
it's more of a creature on its own than something
that actually transforms in the moonlight, like when there's a
full moon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hard to believe that these things are actually
out there looking the way they do twenty four seven,
three sixty five. It's an even bigger stretch, like you said,
to think that people can transform somehow into that state.
But yeah, anything's possible. I mean, dog men are definitely
out there, So yeah, I guess what can't be possible?
That's the question.
Speaker 2: Jen they going back to the transformation thing from a human,
we would kind of make jokes when we were around town,
you know, we would look for people and like that
is that the werewolf? You know, is that the guy
that transforms? If any man that was Harry or just
kind of looked off, we were like, I bet you
that's him. I'm like just kind of making a joke
out of it, just laughing. But you know, I honestly,
truly I don't think that it's something that transforms from
a human into a were wolf. But so dog Man
to me, now that I'm you know, look more into it,
dog Man seems more plausible to me than the were wolf.
Speaker 1: Your first encounter frightened you so bad you could barely talk.
Did you feel bad for not taking to see him
all that seriously after he had that first experience.
Speaker 2: I did, I really did, because the way that he
was terrified, I was terrified as well, like I was shaking.
Speaker 3: And you know, I see, I've grew up in the country.
Speaker 2: I grew up hunting, I grew up fishing, I grew
up shooting firearms and everything, and being out in the
woods in dark time, at night time and whatnot, being
alone in the woods. But when I seen what I seen,
it like petrified me. I mean literally just put a
terror inside my body like I've never spelt before.
Speaker 3: It's it.
Speaker 2: And you're going back to your question, Yes, I should have.
I should have took him more serious, and I shouldn't
have kind of poked fun at him about it. But
then again, I was just looking for a reaction from
him too as well.
Speaker 3: And he did understand that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like I was being a bully told him
about it, because he would he would laugh about it
too sometimes. But I shouldn't have kind of made fun
of him the way I did.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, different than the rest of us. We've
all been programmed to think that there's no way these
guys could possibly be out there. So it's not a
surprise when people respond like that. It really isn't. It's unfortunate,
but I mean, you can't be blamed for that. It's
not your fault. Now, you said that you don't belie
even wear wolves, but every time you've had an encounter,
a full moon was out. Considering that, how sure are
you that it was a dog man and not a
were wolf.
Speaker 2: I won't tell it to you, like yes, my papa
to mess old wives tale a long time. We're not
a wise tale, but just something some information. Don't believe
nothing you hear and only half of what you see.
So that keeps my mind open to where I would
like to believe it's a were wolf. But and then
in like reality and scientific you know, reasons, I can't
believe that it's a were wolf.
Speaker 3: I would go more toward it.
Speaker 2: Being a dog man because I definitely seen something has
been seen by multiple people in this area. But as
far as the scientific reason, I don't think a human
could change form, you know, into something like a dog
or a were wolf.
Speaker 1: You know, well, that makes two of us. I'll never
see anything as a possible But yeah, I think it's
a lot easier to explain this way by seeing that
these guys look the way they do twenty four seven
three sixty five instead of it being a person who
can try insfor m. So we got the same way
on that. All right, Mark, please tell us about your encounters.
Now give it several s detail it comes to mind.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, me and Sam we're out riding around in my
GT one night and I just got straight pipes installed
on the car as a V eight to four point six.
But se car is real, real loud, and it is
a full moon. And we were riding and Sam I
had to pee and Sam did too, but he made
me take him to a street light as always, and
I was like, man, dude, that's ridiculous, you know. But
he was like, it's a full moon. I ain't doing it.
I always when I seen that thing it was a
full moon. Well, I said, you know, let's go, let's
let's go looking for this thing. Let's find it. And
he's like no, no, man u huh, Like he was
kind of opposed to it, but I talked him into it.
Speaker 3: So we're riding around and we didn't ride around long.
Speaker 2: After I mentioned the werewolf dog man thing with Sam
would call it. It's a werewolf, so we'll just say werewolf.
But as we're riding around looking for the werewolf, his
whole demeanor changed.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: We went from laughing and cutting up and rapping and
doing all this and that, making funny jokes and singing
corny songs, to like he was serious over there. Well,
it wasn't long and he was like, all right, man,
I'm ready to go home. And I was like, already,
it's you know, it's not even late yet. And he's like, no,
I'm ready to go. So I took him to his house,
which he had just got a small trailer over there
in Roger Springs, just right up the road from Clayton's house,
which is only about about a mile away from the
house he grew up in. So I dropped him off
at his trailer, and as I took off, I was
thinking to myself, I'm gonna go by Clayton's house and
let him hear my exhausts. And the reason I'm pointing
that out is I could have took a right and
drove Dishop Road all the way down to the school,
or I could have took a left and there's a
full way right there and that turns to Foster Road.
But I decided I wanted to go by Clayton way.
He could hear my exhaust. So I come out of
Salm's house and I floored. I was burning tires and
all that. I kicked it first, second, third, into fourth,
and I was letting my pipes drone as I went
by Clayton so he could hear it well. Clayton and
then went outside, so I didn't stop, but I kept
on going. And then that turns into Samee Road and
you take a left, and there's a set of railroad
tracks and them tracks go down the same way toward
the east is where Foster Road is, so that's the
same tracks, but it crossed seeing the tracks. That crossed
my mind about you know, the werewolf Sam was talking about.
So it's kind of hot and heavy on my mind
right there. But anyways, I went on down and I
got to Highway fifty seven and I went to take
a left, which would be driving it back towards Tennessee
h Middleton, Tennessee. But when I come out of there,
I floored it, and I was caught second third and
was just burning tires all the way through each year.
And I got into fourth year right at about McQueen's Grocery.
It's an old store. It's shut down now, but there
was a gas station there and I was doing about
one hundred and ten mile an hour. Well, I let
off the gas and as I got back to about
Antioch Road, he's back in it, and I was doing
about seventy mile an hour. And this is the reason
I'm stressing how fast I was going and how much
noise I was making, because I never really had an
issue with deer jumping out in front of that car,
because they were scared off long before I got there.
But either way, I'm doing about seventy and fourth gear
and I'm letting my pipe drone southway Clayton and all
of them can hear it out at their house because
the sound.
Speaker 3: Travels in that area.
Speaker 2: But as I was going around the corner, there's a
house to my left, and then right past that house,
I said, something come running And the where the roads
at right there, it's kind of built up and it's
got like a small hill on each side.
Speaker 3: Of the road, and there's a tree line too.
Speaker 2: But it's only about fifteen foot of clear you know,
grass area. And something come out of the woods and
was moving, I mean fast, really really really fast, faster than.
Speaker 3: I've ever seen any kind of animal move.
Speaker 2: And just the way that it was running was off,
like the back legs in the front were like meeting
as it was like running. It was kind of like
it was jumping with staying on the ground. And it
was just long. This thing was huge. Now it wasn't
like real tall, it was just very long. Well, it
come up and like I said, all this is happening
in a split second, and it comes up on the
highway and I just I hit it. I didn't have
no time to react except for I pushed in the
clutch before I could even hit the brake. I smacked
into it. Well when I hit that thing, like I said,
I was doing seventy mile per hour and the cor
about came to a complete stop till about like twenty
mile an hour. Now I've hit deer before, I've hit dogs,
and you know i've hit right cones, rabbits. When you
hit something in a vehicle, you just keep going, you know,
you don't slow down like that. Just the force of
what I hit slowed me down that much it scared
me in its own like instantly, I was terrified, and
I said, oh my god, that's that freaking werewolf Sam
was talking about. I was like, ain't the whole way.
I'm just I'm telling this to myself. I'm thinking it
and all of something. Like I said, when it hit
me there or when I hit hit it knocked both
my headlights out of my cor It wasn't like it
done damaged to one side.
Speaker 3: It done damaged to the whole car. But it didn't
touch the hood.
Speaker 2: And that was just one thing that was weird about
it is it pushed the bumper back and it knocked
my head light and my blinker lens out, so instantly it's.
Speaker 3: Dark, you know.
Speaker 2: And the uh, the bumper under the bumper cover is metal,
but the cobra on them gts are plastic. And it
pushed the bumper down to the ground. So I had
sparks just flying everywhere. And the smart thing to do,
and the right thing we're to do, is to stop
right again, you know. But no, I was not gonna stop.
I said, I got to get up here. There's a
church up here to the right. So I said, I'm
gonna make it to the church and then I'll pull
in there where I have a light and everything else
where I can see. So I drove another about a
quarter to a half a mile of that church with
no lights on my car and just sparks flying everywhere.
And I'm instantly terrified, I mean just shaking at this point.
So I turned into the church parking lot and I
rolled my windows down and I could hear there was
dogs barking everywhere. Now I'm not talking about two dogs.
I mean it sounded like hundreds of them, just all
the way around the primed like three hundred and sixty degrees.
Speaker 3: There was dogs that you could hear.
Speaker 2: From like a half a mile away to a mile
away to almost you know, within a hundred yards, just barking.
Speaker 3: And raising cane. Well, that just terrified me. There.
Speaker 2: I was like, where are all these dogs at? You know,
it's not that much of a populated area, so it's like,
that is weird. So I get out and I could
hear something kind of rumbling in the woods. So I
jumped back up in my car. Yeah, I'm freaking out. Well,
I had a bag in my car. I caught it
the black Magic Bag. It had everything that I needed
in that car in case it broke down, because like
I said, I was rough on the old car and
we lived in the country, so it got tore up
quite often. But anyways, I had like zip ties, duct
take any kind of wrenches. I had headlights, had tail lights.
I had a couple of pull packs. I had some
spark plugs and stuff like that. But so I got
my black Magic bag out, and then also I made
sure that my guns were loaded up. So if we
ride around out here were guns in our vehicle. It's
not uncommon to have a high powered rifle and a
little pistol with us, so it's not uncommon. But I
made sure they were loaded up, you know, and I
set my thirty off six I got it ready, and
they had a little twenty two pistol.
Speaker 3: Either way, I made sure they were ready.
Speaker 2: I got out and I had to rip the bumper
off of the car to be able to have access
to the metal part that was dragging the ground. Well,
I ripped the bumper cover off and I threw it
over to the side in the woods. And you know,
I didn't feel bad about leaving it there, because I
do know, the pastor of that church. I was coming
back the next day to do it. I wasn't just littering,
you know, leaving my you know, parts of my car there.
But when I threw it into the woods, like I
heard something scrumbling around, and all of a sudden, it
got very very quiet.
Speaker 3: All the dogs quit barking. It was just silent.
Speaker 2: And you know, if you've ever been hunting or anything,
when it gets quiet, and you know there's something to
be looking for, because if nothing else is making noise,
it's hiding from the whatever it is this, you know,
disturbing the area, which could be a human or it
could be as this case, to wearwolf or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: So that was my first thought, all right, it's quiet.
This is bad.
Speaker 2: So I jumped back in my vehicle and I'm almost
at tears at this time.
Speaker 3: I'm so scared.
Speaker 2: But either way, I hike myself up, I get back
out and I'm trying to, you know, bend this bumper
back up, and I can't do it. But it was
like I kind of got like a superhuman strength because
I was so scared. I was actually able to lift
the bumper up about a half an inch to an
inch off the ground where it went scraping. Then I
got my duct tape and my zip ties out in
the headlight and I hooked the headlight up and I
duct taped it on and it was nothing but a
bulb there, and without the lens, I couldn't really see
much because the lens in the vehicles actually reflects the
light so you can see. So either way, I left
from there, and my first thought was I gotta go
to Sam's house and tell him what just happened. So
he am going down these old country roads. Luckily it
was a full moon, so I could see a little
bit of that headlight. He wasn't putting out much. But
I pulled up at Sam's and he heard me coming
then like he knew I was coming. He could hear it,
and as soon as I pulled up, he opened the
door and like I had like tears coming down my
face and I was I seen it, Sam, I seen it.
I seen it, And he immediately just grabs me and
like rushes me inside. Well, we sit there and we
had a conversation. I was like, Sam, I seen it.
I seen it.
Speaker 3: I hit it. I hit it, And he was like,
you know, did it kill it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, no, it didn't kill it.
And then we went I said, look, let's go look
at the damage. And I went back outside and Sam
wouldn't even go back outside. He sat on the porch.
But I found hair that was jammed into that bumper,
the bumper, like the middle bumper of the car. It
was like black hair jammed in it. But there wasn't
no blood. So I put the hair in a chip
bag and I rolled it up and I went on home.
And then the next day I'm got with Sam and
we went by the are you know where I ran
into it. You could see there was pieces of my
headlight everywhere. And we stopped and we were looking around
and Sam wouldn't go into the woods. I wanted to
go in the woods and try to track this thing
because there was nobody. That was the main thing we
were looking for is if I hit a deer at
seventy mile an hour, you know, he would kill the deer.
And also if I hit a dog or whatever, it
would you kill the dog. But there was no body man.
And then about the damage on the car, what was
weird is it didn't even touch the bumper. I mean,
the the hood. It only destroyed the bumper, you know, Like,
so what would I hit that was low enough to
the ground to not hit the hood and destroy it,
but also long enough to take out both headlights, you know.
So Sam's looking on the ground where the grass is
at and he sees the headlights and he's like, Mark,
there ain't no blood here anywhere.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I know, that's weird.
Speaker 2: So I went on into the woods and I looked
for the body, but I couldn't bind one. But either way,
you know, it was just that was basically it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: We went back to the bumper cover where it was
that at the church and we got it. And then
there was hair in the bumper cover as well, and
I put the hair into a chip bag that I
already had collecting it. I said, that was the first
time that I seen the thing. So after that, like
I said, I hit whatever it is. I went around
telling people, hey, I hit a werewolf, and people, you know,
would give me a funny look, you know, some believed me,
some did so I just changed it to I hit
a big black thing, you know, whatever it was, because
the facts are, I have hair in my vehicle, this
black and the hair also is like real thick, like
a pine needle.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's not like, how do I explain this? Like it's
really really stiff and really really thick, and I's thinking
but about like an inch.
Speaker 3: Or two long, just not that long. But so we
met up with Tyler martin Ow.
Speaker 2: Now this is some time has passed after this, you know,
I'm not exactly sure how much time has passed, but
it's been a couple of years. And it's a full
moon and we're telling Tyler Martindale about the time that
we've seen this so called wearwolf, and since it was
a full moon, we're gonna go hunting for it. And
you know with Tyler, he's a rough old cat. You know,
he comes down from Walnut Lake and you know the
rough around there, so don't much scare him, you know,
And he's always carrying an AR fifteen and that comes
into play with the story. So it was me, Sam
and Aaron and Tyler and we're out cruising. So we
went down toward Roger Springs area. And let me note
that to see this thing we had come up with,
it has to be a full moon, and you have
to be talking about it for you to be able
to see it. And I don't know about if you know,
the human the mind is like if you are looking
for something, the mind's gonna you're gonna see something. So
I don't know if that's why we just so happen
to see it when we're talking about it, or if
we're actually summoning this thing up to see it. I
truly believe that we summon it up by talking about it,
and like it knows that we're looking for it, so
it'll show itself. But either way, we're riding around Roger
Springs and we go down Wellington Road and Wellington Road
is a gravel road. It circles back around the same road.
And as we're coming down this road, you know, Martin
Day has a big old, jacked up Dodge truck. It's
got a diesel in it and he has the turbos
in it, big old stacks coming out of the back.
So it's really really loud, so you could hear it
coming from a mile away. But we almost at this
time haven't even realized that we're still looking for it.
We're just riding around. It ain't been in our mind.
We're just talking at this point, and the way this
road is set up. It's like a old road from
like the third nineteen thirty, so it was dug in
with bulldozers and then there's a ridge on each side,
like on each side of the road. It's about ten
to twelve foot of dirt and you're just driving through it. Well,
right as we're coming up, it's an old hunting cabin.
That's an abandoned house, is what it is. But it's
a hunting cabin and people come down from Memphis and
they hunt. Well, something come out from the roads from
the right side of the road and it comes down
the hill, down the ridge or whatever from that yard
of that house, and it shoots across the road and
then it goes up the.
Speaker 3: Other side of the road.
Speaker 2: Well, Martinell floors it like warm and slims on the
brakes right where it crosss, and we're all looking at
this time. Sam's really freaking out and Loy Aaron is
going whoo, whooh, he did this little woo thing whenever
you know, something crazy was happening.
Speaker 3: He's wooing.
Speaker 2: I'm hooping and hollering like it's just utter chaos, you know.
Smrt that slams on the brakes. He pulls out that
ar fifteen and he swings it around to the driver's side,
like left side of the road where that thing went
up and right above where the Heill crest. It's like
a where power lines run through, so they only cut
the power lines once a year, so there's like little
sapling trees and there it is lo and behold the
freaking were wolf, dog man whatever. This thing is sitting
there staring at us, and it's just giving us like
an evil look, and the reflection from the light on
the gun is red, and we're just all silent, you know,
nobody's saying a word. But and then about that time,
it let out this screech. I don't know how to
explain the screech that this thing let out, but it
was terrifying. I mean, the decimal points. If we had
a decimal reader right then, it would have went off
the charts. It was so loud, and you could hear
it over the vehicle as well, sitting there Eyeland, Like
we had stats right there behind the cab of the truck,
so that was loud on its own, but to be
able to still hear it, it was just outrageous and
it scared all of us. And instead of Martin Delle
pulling the trigger and shooting whatever, it was like, he
had a laser on that gun too, and the laser
was pointing on the thing. The light the flashlight was
pointing on it, and the eyes were just like glowing red.
And now I don't think, I don't know if they
were just glowing red like that they stay red, but
the flashlight was making the eyes red on this thing.
And it was just evil looking. Man, it just it
was evil, like you could just sense that. It was
just I don't know, it was mean, whatever it was.
And instead of pulling the trigger, Martindale drops his gun
and just floors it and takes off. And by this
time Sam said go go go, and there's like go.
We're all saying go, go go, and it's kind of
just silence after that, and we're not really saying much.
But then Tyler's like, dude, who was that? And we
were like what do you mean? He was like who
was that? And we're like, dude, that's the werewolf.
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Who was that?
Speaker 2: And he was like, no, man, y'all are playing a
trick on me. That ain't no, that's somebody in a
gorilla suit, and we're like, dude, Tyler, no, I promise
you that is not nobody in a gorilla suit. We
are not messing with you. And he just kind of
chuckle us. But he's still kind of scared too, so
he don't know what to bleed whether we're playing a frank.
Speaker 3: On him or not. And we wasn't. I mean, we
was not franking this guy at all.
Speaker 2: But I said, we're coming down that gravel road. As
fast as we could go in that truck.
Speaker 3: It would run his tail off. He could run.
Speaker 2: Bout eight seven to eight seconds and eighth of a
mile locked in full of drive. So I had a
good take off. But we come to the end of
the gravel road, the sane road, and he kicks it
and goes wide open. He starts slowing down and sayings
like no, dude, don't slow down, keep going, keep going.
So he floors it and we're moving it probably a
little bit over one hundred mile an hour coming down
this road. Well, there's a house to our left ahead
of us, and it has trees growing in like a hedgerow,
and you like, I remember, it's it's a full moon,
so you can see everything just perfect and in between
one of the trees and the hedgerow was the werewolf
sitting there. And it was kind of just sitting up
with it's like its fist on the ground, its head
was moving straight forward. The best way to describe it
looked like kind of like a gargoyle, like a statue
sitting there. And I mean it was tall. I mean
this thing was huge sitting there like that. And as
we went by it, you know, nobody said nothing because
neither everybody was like did we see that?
Speaker 3: Or did we not see that? And I finally said,
did y'all see that?
Speaker 2: And then Sam was like, oh my god, I seen
it too, and then Tyler said he seen it too,
and then Aaron said he seen it too. And I
mean it was just it was outrageous. How could whatever
we seen on Wellington Road be, you know, five miles
down the road before us and still be standing there
waiting for us to come by. It's it's like impossible
because that truck is fast on its own, so nothing
could have beat us there, even if somebody was in
a sports car, it could not have beat us there.
The only way something could be there before us if
it flew like it in like an reality in our world,
like a helicopter could have made it there, but nothing
with wheels or anything like that. But but after that,
we dropped Sam off, we dropped Aaron off, and then
I was the last one to get dropped off because
really I'm the only reason Tyler's there too is because
like we're friends.
Speaker 3: We had met up there at the gas station.
Speaker 2: Years before at Cardwell State Line and we got introduced
to each other, and he was actually there to see me.
So I was the last one who like he trusted me,
Like he don't really trust Sam or Aaron, but he
knew he could trust me. And he looked at me
in the face and he almost had tears coming to
his eyes and he was like, who were who was
in the gorilla suits?
Speaker 3: Man? Tell me? And I said, Tyler, dude, that was
not nobody in a gorilla suit. That is a werewolf.
Speaker 2: I promise you, man, we see this thing. This ain't
the first time we seen it. Tyler, like we have
seen this thing. He was like, no, man, y'all are
tricking me. And then he got like kind of mad
at me, and like he was like kind of like
kind of like I was like, is this dude about
to fight me, like it's my buddy, you know. But
he's like, don't you ever ever pull a prank on
me like that again? Never do he said, I'll never
come back up here again if y'all ever do that
to me again. So I was like, all right, man,
So I got my car and he took off. And
to be honest, even to this day, he still thinks
that we were pranking him by having somebody in a
gorilla suit or something to scare him. But for one,
like we know, when we know Martinelle's crazy anyways, I mean,
we know he has that aar. I'm not going to
put somebody in a gorilla suit for him to point
a gun at because, for all I figured he would
have shocked the thing, you know. So that's for one point,
he should understand that we were not tricking him.
Speaker 3: And for two, how would.
Speaker 2: We have got somebody else in the uh that yard
of that house, you know, posted up in that tree
line so fast we didn't know what direction you were
coming from. So there's no way that we could have
tricked him, you know. But in the back of his mind,
I think he knows that we really seen something. But
he still thinks retricking. So that kind of ended, that
night ended and whatever, but it still became a thing
that when it was a full moon, we would go
looking for the thing, but not always would we see it.
And then another encounter where we've kind of seen it
but we didn't. It was just something that was spooky.
It was a full moon and we're out looking for
the thing, and we're down in Wolfpen. And Wolfpen is
a little bit east of Middleton, down past Pocahontas, and
it's a different area than Roger Springs and technically the
only place we've ever seen this thing is in Rogers Springs,
but we're down in wolf Pen looking too as well.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I take a left down a gravel road it's called
Matthis Lane. It's right off wolf Pen, and we're cruising
down through there, and I put a cigarette out in
a mountain dew that Sam was drinking on an accident
just out of habit, you know, wouldn't malicious actor nothing,
But he went and he took a drink.
Speaker 3: Out of that mountains. He took his swig of that thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was he up and he already has
a weak stomach as it is, so you know that
was rough on him, but he drunk that mountain dew
and he's like, oh man, there's a cigarette in it.
And he threw it out of the window with like
I mean, just as hard as he could and we
could hear it. It landed out in the woods. Like
So we're only creeping at this time too. We're doing
about fifteen mile an hour, just kind of idling through there.
But at the end of this road now or matthis
lane road, it's an old house and an old barn,
and it's just a spooky area, and you know, with
a full moon and everything, it just made it extra spooky.
So I think Sam or bj one of them was liked,
we got to get out of here.
Speaker 3: So we turned around and we're on our way out
and that mountain dew can was sitting straight in the
middle of the road. Now, this road, there is nobody
that lives down it. The only house is that old
abandoned farm, and there was the mountain dew can sitting
straight in the middle of the road. So there we go.
Speaker 2: That all it took for is you know, of the
wolf man or were wolf dog man, whatever it is
is watching us. So that was enough for us.
Speaker 3: For the night and we went on home. After that
we quit looking.
Speaker 2: But and then the last encounter that I had that
I seen whatever this creature is. I was at my
house and it was a full moon and my pet.
I lived at this house. It was the same house
I grew up in. My parents had got a divorce
and I was able to take over the mortgage of
the house and I was living there by myself. But
I had a girlfriend at the time and she was there,
and I had two dogs and a cat but I
had Their names were pej As the cat Clutch was
the black dog, and Susie Cues the white dog. Now Susie,
she's still around this. She's about close to fourteen fifteen
years old now believe. But she was born in twenty
eleven and it's currently two thousand and twenty five, so
she's getting on up there. But she was young at
the time. And I believe this was around two thousand
and fourteen. Now, don't get me wrong, Like I said,
this has been years ago, but I'm pretty sure it
was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3: And like I said, it's a full moon.
Speaker 2: And where the house is, we call it the plantation
because my dad's dad's dad, which is my great grandfather,
bought this land back in the nineteen twenties, like nineteen
twenty eight. It's about fifteen hundred acres and he started
a saw mill out there and he used to run
that saw mill and then he used to cook a
little bit of moonshine on the side too, and he
had like nine steals out in that area.
Speaker 3: But either way, like I said, it's a big plot
of land.
Speaker 2: And where my house is is at the beginning of
the road and it was built in probably the nineteen
fifty five, I believe, And when my dad was in
the second grade, he come to visit our cousins that
lived there and he said, when I grow up, I'm
gonna buy this house. And that's what he done, you know,
when he got old enough, he bought the house from him.
So where the house is sitting, there is a big
field in the front, and then behind the house we
have a shopping and shed and all that, and then
across the creek there's an old barn and what not.
But you can see a pretty good area around the house.
And something was disturbing the dogs, like the dogs were
raising cane and I was like, oh, God, it's a
full moon tonight, you know. So I told old girl.
I'm not gonna say her name, but I told old girl.
I was like, it's a full moon tonight and dogs
are barking. And when I say that, she automatically knows
about the werewolf because when it's a full moon, anybody
in my circle knows it. So we mentioned full moon.
So she kind of gives me to look, you know,
of doubt. She believes me, but you know, she thinks
we're just crazy whatever. We didn't really see nothing, that
we might be making it up, but.
Speaker 3: She gives me a look.
Speaker 2: Now, I go outside and Clutch is inside, but Susie
Q is already outside on the porch barking. Well, when
I opened the door up, Clutch wouldn't go outside. I mean,
that dog followed me everywhere.
Speaker 3: He was cool.
Speaker 2: He used to ride a dirt bike with me, and
that's why I got his name Clutch. But anywhere I went,
that dog went. But he would not follow me outside
that night and I come out onto the porch and
I'm scanning and I can see the front field and
there's nothing there. And then I see Susie and I'm like,
let's go get it. Go get it, girl, And she
runs off the porch, and I'm expecting her to do
her normal and to go chase whatever this is. You know,
we're gonna chase it down, and like we used to
coon hunt with that dog too, So I was ready
to go right behind her too and go get whatever
it is. But when she went down the steps, she
looked to the left of the house and just turned
around and ran back up to the steps.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, what is it?
You know? So I immediately was.
Speaker 2: Kind of, you know, freaked out in my own but
I mustered up the string and I went down the
steps and I looked to the left. And when I
tell you the most this is probably the most clear
description I ever got of the werewolf dog man thing
was this night, and it was terrifying. I looked to
my left and where the porch light, you know, it
illuminates the yard, there's right there at the edge of
where the porch light illuminates there. It was kind of
in the darkness, and it was staring straight at me.
And this night, the os wasn't red. And this is
the thing that was just the most description thing about
it that scare me. As the eyes it wasn't like
they were looking straight at me. It was kind of
like they were looking through me and around me like
they wasn't They were like kind of betruding to the side,
kind of it wasn't just straight ahead. And the best
I could describe it, it looked like a deer standing
on its hind legs, but it wasn't a deer. I know,
the deer looks like, but it wasn't. And it wasn't
like real muscular, like it was really really skinny and
bony in the way that every the joints of it. Man,
it was just creepy looking like it was something very abnormal.
The bones were just protruding outward, and it was standing
about like seven to eight foot maybe even ten fock,
I want to say, seven to ten foot tall, and
it's just looking at me, staring, And at this time
he didn't have his arms on the ground like it
was at night whenever we were going by on that
house where it looked like a statue. But it was
just like it was staring at me. And I didn't
take you know, just a few seconds, and I turned
around and I ran back up in the house. And
I was just, I mean terrified, and like I said,
Susie already was ready to run. I think Susie was
already in the house. But the door of the house
was open, I said. When I busted through the door,
I shut the door, I locked it, I hit the
dead bolt.
Speaker 3: Lot.
Speaker 2: I turned around. I told old girl, I go to
the bedroom. Go go co co co and we ran. We
all ran, and the dogs and all we all ran
back to my bedroom. I locked the door and I
grabbed my thirty six, cocked it, and I peeped out
of the window on that side of the house. You
could see where it was and there was nothing there. Man,
that thing it was gone. And you know, that's what
really scared me the most. And I have not went
out looking for this thing ever since, and tried to
talk about it on the full moon, but it just
terrified me that it knew where I lived at. Like
you know, now, I'm thinking, okay, it's kind of got
a mark on me, like he knows where I'm at.
So I kind of took it serious, man, And oh girl,
she could tell that I was scared too, you know,
And I was just kind of just sitting there shaking man,
and it's almost just about to cry. And you know,
I was full grown at this time, paying bills on
my own, had a job. I was in college for
industrial maintenance. And here I am a grown man sitting
there terrified on the edge of my bed with a gun,
thinking that some creatures that are come and get me.
But like I said, after that night, I haven't seen
it since. But I have told the story to other
people around this area and they have seen it. Like
Chris Bradley and Dustin they have all seen it too.
One night I was telling them a story and there
they lived down Antioch Road, which is kind of in
the area of Roger Springs, and they swear they have
seen it there a couple of times. Another girl, Ashley,
which is old girl sister, she had seen it, she said,
down in wolf Pen area, and she actually got a
little small video of it. She had sent it to me,
but aither way she had said she's seen it. And then,
like I said, my brother had seen it with Sam
one night, and my brother said it had to have
been a bear, you know, that's the best thing he
could describe.
Speaker 3: It was a bear.
Speaker 2: But and then just the other day, whenever I called you,
and I was telling you you I got a Thanksgiving
dinner and I was trying to plan our phone call
around that. I was telling my old lady about it, Caitlyn,
and she was at her sister's house and her told her.
She told her sister, you know, I was going to
contact you, And she said that one of her husband's
friends had seen something that was like a werewolf down
in Hatchie Bottom as well. So I'm one hundred percent sure.
Like I said, there is something around here that is
not in the normal books that we learn about.
Speaker 3: And it does.
Speaker 2: It does come out on a full moon, but in
my opinion, I think it stays dormant for a while
and then it comes out, and I think it gets
off on by terrifying me or Sam or whoever, like
anybody that it knows that has seen it and is
actively looking forward. It'll show himself, but you have to
go looking for him. But except I don't think it's
out to kill anybody or me or anybody else, but
you never know, you know, it could be it could
have malicious intent. And there is a lot of creatures
out here that we you know, we're not aware about.
You know that the I want to say the government,
but just that people don't talk about because they kind
of want to protect these creatures. And if you read back,
I've done a lot of research on the werewolf type
deal and they the fightings go back all the way
into when the Indians were on this continent, the North
American continent, and you know, they had true beliefs of it.
Speaker 3: And you know, if you if you do come and
counter with one, try not.
Speaker 2: To get scared and get a picture, because that's one
thing I don't understand is we have so many deer
cameras out here in the world. I mean, there's hundreds
of millions of deer cameras everywhere in the woods. And
I won't say there ain't pictures of them, but with
all the AI and stuff like that, you don't know
what to bleed, but you would think that there would
be pictures of them everywhere. But it's kind of like
they're sneaky enough and fly enough not to get caught.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know, Vick.
Speaker 2: It's just it's real weird. And you know, I've come
across your account. Actually a guy Chris at work. He's
the one that introduced me to your account because I
was telling him the story of it. He said, you know,
check out dog man Encounters on YouTube, and you could
also probably get on the website and see if you
could submit your story and see if you could talk
to that guy. So, but Vic, there's definitely something out here.
I mean, these people they're not just seeing nothing. It's something.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Matt, and you saw it yourself multiple times,
so there definitely is some there there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Had you heard about anything like a dog man being
in the area before two thousand and eight when see
him had that first experience.
Speaker 3: No, which you know I was.
Speaker 2: I was kind of young at that time as well,
and you know, I've heard stories, but nothing like personal
that someonney has said. You know, hey, I've seen a
werewolf out here. You know, we had we had black
panthers that we would hear as a child around the
house screaming. But if you look at our census for
the animals, and you know, you ask wildlife authorities, we
don't have panthers around, but we would hear them. It
kind of sounds like a woman screaming in the distance.
But that just kind of makes me think, you know,
was that the dog man that I was hearing all
still on growing up, because it kind of sounded like
the same scream we heard that night with Tyler, but
it wasn't as like womanlike as a scream we would
hear around the plantation growing up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny to think that these guys were probably
in that area for as long as you've been rooming
those woods. But he never had an experience until two
thousand and eight. There, it's just a lot to wrap
your head around, it really is. It's been a while
too since see him had his experiences, the first one
in two thousand and eight, of course, and then he
was with you when he had that second encounter that
he had.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Vick, I've been working night shift now for
about five years, and I got a son, and I
got a wife now, and I don't go out much
no more, and I haven't been able to see Sam.
But I did call him the other day. I didn't
call him, I was texting him on his YouTube channel.
He has a YouTube channel. He does gun reviews and stuff.
But I told him I was gonna come see him,
and I didn't say nothing about the encounter, but I
could guarantee you even though I haven't seen Sam in
a while. He is just as terrified today if he
was when he's seen it when he was a child
that night down at the Roger Sprains Dunk, just as
terrified of it. I could guarantee it, because even though
like even and then, that's been what is from two
thousand and eight till it was twenty twenty five, you know,
I can promise you he still is terrified to this day.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna try to go to his
house sometime this week. I got a full work schedule
ahead of me this week. I'll be off Sunday, but
I'm gonna go and I'm gonna get with him, and
I'm gonna call you back, and I'm gonna let him
tell his experience that night to you so you can
hear it as well. And like I said, and he
would probably even remember other things about them nights that
we've seen it too, you know, other descriptions and stuff
that would be you know, it would have it would
benefit you as into your investigations into the dog Man.
So I'm definitely gonna get back with you whenever I
can get a hold of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me know, because i'd love to talk with him.
Sounds like he could use some help. That's horrible that
it's affecting him that way is still at the present day.
But yeah, if I can help him, I definitely will. Now,
speaking of help, how about you, It's spent a long
time since you had that last encounter on the scale
of one to ten, How are you doing now.
Speaker 2: To put it on a scale to one to ten.
I mean, just the type of person I am. I
try not to show fear, but I'm still scared of
it today as I was when I seen it the
last time. And I could sit there and try to
sound macho and say, oh, I would try to do
something different this time if I seen it like, I
don't want to.
Speaker 3: And that's one thing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to shoot the thing either, because it's
kind of like there's a there was an albino turkey
in my area growing up, and I wouldn't shoot the
albino turkey, and I don't want to shoot this thing.
But I would definitely want to get that hair that
I have. I want to get it, you know, analyzed,
and have a test done and see what type of
animal it is. And I would just like to try
to get a video of it this time, you know,
a good video, just to have proof to myself, you
know that this thing does exist. So back to your
question on one to ten, I'm doing great as a
number ten, but also still terrified of the thing because
I'm pretty sure if I seen it again, It's like
this thing when it sees you, it has this way
of just putting fear in you because you're raised to
know that it's not right, and something that you know
is not right, it's going to scare you. And just
the thought of how I know this thing can move
Like that night we've seen it with Tyler, Dude, it
was we were five miles down the road or so
and this thing beat us there. So I mean there's
I'm defenseless against the thing, you know, like there's nothing
I could do, and if it wanted to snatch me up,
it could. And you know there are disappearances, you know
in the world. People disappear. It just makes you think,
you know, it is dog man, the culprit of that
or any kind of other creature, you know, because we
always want to point the fingers and like maybe somebody
got kidnapped or abducted or something like that. But it
could be a cryptid out of here that could kill
someone and there's no trace of them. So that's in
the back of my mind, and I don't want that
to happen to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely don't want that to happen to you either,
No or what happened to know? Yeah, that wouldn't be
a good thing at all. And they just might be
responsible for a lot of the missing person cases. They
probably aren't responsible for at least some of them. But yeah,
the fact that they'll let so many people go when
they could snatch them up, that counts for something. It
really does. But having said that, Mark, we're out of time.
But I've got a ton of questions for you. Would
you be up with coming back to do a part
two where I could do a Q and A with you?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And by the time we do the Q and A,
I'll try to get a hold the same And ye know, Mike,
Hal have some questions answer you that you have about
here has the counter as well?
Speaker 1: Oh good, Yeah, sounds like a plan. We'll just do
that then. But having said that, thanks again so much
for coming on to share those experiences with us. I
really appreciate it and of course I'll get with you
to schedule that part two.
Speaker 3: Okay, Vick, I'll braciate you having me out taking the time.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, you're welcome. That's what I'm here for.
Thanks again for your time, and have a great night.