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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to the Sasquatch Theory podcast. On

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this episode of Sasquatch Theory, I am talking with Jim

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from Tennessee. Jim shares a series of strange encounters that

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began in Pennsylvania and later on in Ohio. What started

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as a relaxing camping trip with his friends quickly turn

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into a night filled with fear, crashing sounds, rocks being

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thrown into the river, and the overwhelming feeling that something

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massive was watching from the darkness. Later on, Jim had

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a strange encounter in Ohio where he watched a dark

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figure manipulating a brush pile and bending branches before disappearing

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over a hill. If you enjoy listening to Sasquatch Theory,

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outlook dot com. With all that being said, let's dive

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straight into Jim's terrifying encounters from Pennsylvania and Ohio. All right,

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Jim Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today.

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Speaker 2: Hey, excellent. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's a pleasure to have you on the show. Jim,

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If you would tell me a little bit about yourself,

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where you're from, and your Bigfoot encounters and experiences from

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the very beginning, please.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm thirty nine, I'm in Middle Tennessee. I work

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a decent blue collar job. I've got my master's degree

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in philosophy back in twenty eleven, which is somewhere around

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the time when the encounter occurred. I have to be honest,

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I'm not exactly sure that the year anymore. If people

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wanted to go back. I did a show a long

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time ago. I think it was called Bigfoot Tonight Radio

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or something. The host is no longer with us, but

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I had the exact year back then, but I can't

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remember now. I think it was somewhere in the two

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thousand and nine to twenty eleven era.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you would tell me about this experience that

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you had, kind of put me in your shoes and

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describe everything with as much detail as possible, please.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So this was in western Pennsylvania, specifically in Fayette County,

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or maybe the next county over, because we were on

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the river. What happened was there. It's on the mononga

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Hilla River, the closest, the closest sort of big town.

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And by big town, I mean it's an abandoned coal

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mining town with like a pharmacy and a small little

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diner in the area. But it's called Brownsville, Brownsville, Pennsylvania.

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And anyways, we would go up there in the summers

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and load all our camping gear on a boat and

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just go up the river till we found a nice

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place to camp. This particular time, we found a nice

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sandy shore, and right behind it was a big not

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quite a mountain, but a monstrous hill of a slate

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that's a byproduct of producing coal, or at least mining

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the coal rather, And right across the river you would

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ever see it from the from the river or from

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the shore we were on. But a little ways across

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the river is a little place called Crucible, And if

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you look on Google Maps you can see it. It's

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it's called Crucible. It's in western Pennsylvania. And if you

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go directly across the river from this little village of

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like two blocks of coal mining houses, you'll see this

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big shale mountain. And if you look there and follow

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go look at the shale mountain and then kind of

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go back towards Cruicible, right where the bank is, and

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you might even still see that sandy shore. I looked

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maybe a year ago and you could still see it.

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But anyhow, that's a good reference mark for where this

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happened at. So anyways, I got up there on a Thursday.

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This is in the summer. It could have been June

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or July, I can't remember. But I got up there

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myself on a maybe a Thursday or a Friday. I

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set the camp up and everything, and I was gonna

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go pick the guys up later. And uh, nothing out

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of the ordinary whatsoever. I had been on this river,

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not my whole life, but probably half my life. So

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I'd been in these woods in this river. I four

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wheeled on there. We had a little cottage that we

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would go to up there, so I'm familiar with the

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area and the sounds, the sites, everything like that, you know.

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And this is probably just in retro spector in hindsight,

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rather that every time I would walk up the the

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rain ruts or something to go to the bathroom, or something.

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I kind of I felt like maybe I wasn't alone

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or was being watched, But uh, I'm a little superscis

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in that regard anyways, so I didn't think any anything

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of it at the time. So everything's normal. I get

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a camp set up where we have one big tent

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and it's it's it's basically like an easy up with

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just screens around it, so you're not covered. Anybody can

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see in it. It's wide open. And then a buddy

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would later on that night set a tent up. But

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so the other guys get to the docks, so I

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pack up. I go down and pick them up, load

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their gear up. We set camp up. That evening. Nothing

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out of normal happened. It was a wonderful evening, good weather. Overnight.

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I woke up a few times and quiet as could be,

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nothing out of the ordinary. The next day we load

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the boat up. We're going fishing, we're going boating, We're

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going in and out all day long. I'm bringing this

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boat right up onto the sandy shore and just beaching it.

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And so we're going in and out land in different

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spots in this on this sandy shore. And because it's

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a river, the drop off is really steep, so you

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walk out more than a foot off the shore and

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you're dropping down into ten foot of water, twenty foot

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of you know, and so so on. So we're coming

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in and out. We have a great day, and it's

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getting towards the evening and U around. I think it

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was about eight o'clock or maybe nine o'clock. I was

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the first one to start getting tired, and they're all

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pretty much everyone else is just kind of sitting around

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the campfire, finishing off food and stuff. And so I

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go to bed and I lay there for a little

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bit listening to them, and then I'm out, and one

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by one the other guys make their way in and

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I fall back asleep. And finally when the last guy

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got in the tent, there was three of us total

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in the big tent, and then there was one guy

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in the small tent. And when we went to bed,

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I mean we left everything out. Their skillet's full of

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baked beans and you know, meat bones laying around and

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food all over the place. We did not I've seen

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a bear in that area before, but it was from

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far away, and honestly, I just really didn't think about it.

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So we left. We left everything laying out. Well, by

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the time the last guy got in the tent, he

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was being It's not that he was being loud, but

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it was enough for me to wake up. And by

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this time, I'm guessing it's midnight or so. And once

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he's in and he moves around and gets settled in,

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I'm wide awake. So I'm just laying there and very

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very peaceful evening and start to hear stuff up behind

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me and using the the the the slate hill behind

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us as reference. My back is to that that hill,

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and I'm facing the river, and because we were at

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a slight incline, I could actually just see if without

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lifting my head up, I could just open my eyes

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and kind of see the river, and very very peaceful. Well, anyways,

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back towards that that hill, I start hearing just a

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little bit of rustling here and there. I think, okay,

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that's a squirrel. And then you hear like rocks kind

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of roll down a little bit. So it's like dang it,

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and it's it's getting louder and more frequent, like the movement.

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And I don't hear there. I don't hear any footsteps

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or anything like that. I just hear brush rattling around,

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maybe just the leaf cover on the ground, you know,

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just being rustled around. Well, whatever's making the noise is

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getting closer, and as it's getting closer, it's getting louder,

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more frequent, and I'm starting to get a little nervous

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because now instead of me thinking it's a squirrel, I'm

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starting to think, Okay, it's like a big deer or something.

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And not that I'm necessarily scared, but like, if it's

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gonna get close enough, what if it's not a deer

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and it's a bear. Geez? We left all this food

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laying out, and I'm starting to think, like, oh my gosh,

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I'm really messed up. And I don't hear any breathing,

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any animal noises, I don't smell anything, but it's getting

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louder and louder, and it's getting really close now. So finally,

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I don't know what the timeframe of this was, but finally,

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after some time, whatever it is, I know it's not

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a deer or something anymore, because it sounds like it

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is directly behind my head and it's just grabbing the

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biggest branch that it can and just violently shaking it

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to where it's I mean, it doesn't sound like a

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bulldozer because it's not making forward progress, but it's just

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so loud whatever it is. And what was kind of

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unique about the sound is that it would like go

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from kind of end to end of the camp, but

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it never lost its presence, you know, like if it

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goes to the left side, you think you wouldn't hear

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it as much as when it goes to the right side,

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right next to your head. But it had a presence

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around the whole camp. And this went on for what

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seemed like like fifteen minutes, but I'm sure it was

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much less than that. And I was so frightened. And

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I know it sounds trite to say that I was

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paralyzed with fear, but when I look back, I really was,

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because I told myself that, like, if you move, it's

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going to see that you moved, and then what's it

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going to do if it knows you're awake? And then

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my other thought simultaneously was if I if I turn

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around and see it, I might not want to see

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what it is because I'll be scared. Because I was

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convinced at that point that whatever it was, it wasn't

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a typical animal for the area. A bear, he wouldn't

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have done that. He would have just went over started

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licking the pots and pans and digging through all our stuff.

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capacity to do that. So and I didn't. I didn't

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hear any footsteps or anything. It wasn't It was just

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so unusual how the and when it was earlier, when

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it was coming down and like making noise randomly, I

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could hear the noise these the brush rattling getting closer,

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but I never heard something approaching, you know, at the

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same time. So this is going on, and I'm at

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the height of the fear. I don't know what it is,

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but it is right behind me. And because where our

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tent was, it was directly where the brush line started,

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I heard the guy in the other tent kind of

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like moving around, and it almost from the best I

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can remember now, like instantaneously stopped once that that noise happened.

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from the other tent, it just stopped. And so I'm

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sitting there and I'm waiting, and it is as silent

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as I had ever heard it. There no noises, and

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I'm very scared now because it's like, well, what's it

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going to do next? And so I'm sitting there in fear,

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just kind of almost tensing up because I'm expecting like

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an impact or a loud noise or the tent to

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come crashing down. And however, many minutes later it was

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I heard a huge splash in the water, and since

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ripples in the water traveling away. It was a huge splash.

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It wasn't a fish, and it wasn't even a big

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fish either. I mean, not even a big fish would

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have made the sound. It had that deep ker plunk

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sound that we all easily associate with, you know, a

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big rock plunging into the water, And so that's why

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I assumed it was. And then it was silent again

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for a little bit, and then another huge splash, and

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at that point I heard more rustling in the other tent,

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and then as the dude was unzipping his as he

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was unzipping his tent. I heard another huge splash, and

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I was looking at the water, and this time I

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didn't really see the I didn't really see the ripples

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or anything. So I'm looking and he gets out. My buddy,

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he gets out of his tent and he starts storming

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over to us, and he's in a deep voice yelling us.

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He's like, hey, you guys were throwing rocks up there.

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And I jumped up. I like instantly sat up, and

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I'm like, dude, I don't know what's going on when

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they're all in here, they're sleeping, these two guys. The

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guy's next to him, you didn't even wake up. And

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that was so bizarre to me because it was so loud.

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And he said, well, what's going on? What was that

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noise that was so loud. I'm like, dude, I don't know,

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but it was right behind my head, you know. And

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he's like, what the hell is that? And you know,

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he's freaked out too. Apparently he was listening the whole time,

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and he was like, man, it was like I could

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hear it there. I could hear it there. It was

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so loud. It sounded like somebody's shaking trees. And I'm like,

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I know, man, So I I was so thankful that

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he was up and that there was just somebody else there.

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So we get up and uh, we uh just are

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kind of talking about it. He heard the same things

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I did. He's you know, he said he kind of

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heard little noises and then it got louder louder louder.

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So we we experienced the same thing, and we got

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a fire going, and we we stayed up till like

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the morn, till like four or something in the morning.

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those guys got up. So we were up and you know,

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we asked them and they said, no, oh no, we

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didn't hear anything. So I don't know what that was

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all about. But so me and him are the one

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guy that also heard it. Were kind of freaked out.

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But also we planned on staying two more days there

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and nothing happened to us, so we decided to just

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continue on. So we get ourselves together, get breakfast or whatever,

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and then we decided to go out. So we loaded

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the boat up. We had been in and out of

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this beach, like I said earlier, all all day long.

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So we get in the boat and I back up

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and I hit something just on the side of the

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boat when I'm trying to turn to back out, and

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so I pulled back forward and me and one of

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the other guys, one of the guys that was actually

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a sleep, we're like kind of looking around and we

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find a really big rock. I don't know, maybe there's

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it was a size of a small backpack or maybe

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a medium sized backpack, and I don't really remember how

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thick it was, but a medium sized backpack is a

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pretty good measure, and it's it's sitting there in the

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sand in the bank, you know, if like a right

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off the shore, and I'm like, dude, we've been coming

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in and out here all week and this wasn't here.

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And they were all kind of looking like, yeah, I

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don't know, just maybe missed it or something, but I

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know we didn't because it's not like it wasn't a

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it's not a huge shore or anything. And I kind

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of tried to go generally in the same area, but

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you know, in and out all day whatever. So we're

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kind of looking. We picked the rock up and launch

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it off into the channel, and it took the two

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of us to get it, and then I'm started looking

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around because I'm starting to piece it together, and I

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find another one and it's around the same size. And

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we launched that one, and I was thinking I was

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going to find a third one naturally, and I looked

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around and I didn't see anything. But that was so

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to me. I know that something threw that in there,

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and but it was it was a very frightening experience

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at the time, and the more I look back at it, I, uh,

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it got me thinking. So a little while later I started,

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uh like looking at the bf R thing because when

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even when the next morning, when we were telling the

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guys that were asleep about it, I said, that's like

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what they say bigfoot does, and they they laughed. The

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one dude, the one dude that experienced it too, he

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he didn't think it was funny. He was like thinking

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the same thing I was. And but that stayed in

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my mind, and uh so, uh anti climatically, nothing else

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really happened on that trip. It was pretty uneventful. We

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actually stayed another night. I don't think we stayed the

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two nights, but we stayed another night and nothing happened.

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Was I was actually spooked, and I don't know why

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I was. I wasn't so scared that night to go

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to sleep. But at any rate, when we got back,

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I kind of started looking online and I noticed that

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where that was, where that had happened, there's a fairly

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significant history of sightings and encounters and stuff there. This

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is kind of in the same general region as a

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Stan Gordon's whole thing from the seventies, I think or

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the eighties where they had the rash of bigfoot sidings

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and they coincided with a UFO siding either before or

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after the Bigfoot siding. So it's in that area. And

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then if you look on the BFRO they've there's sidings

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in that county and in the surrounding counties, and it

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makes sense it's very depopulated. This used to be a

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booming coal It used to be booming coal country. I mean,

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all the big conveyors and stuff are still up, they're rusted,

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and they still do col there to this day. But anyways,

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after I had done research, I was pretty confident that

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it was a big Foot experience. I didn't smell anything.

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And another thing that was that puzzled me after I'd

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really absorbed the experience was that the rocks that we

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heard they were kind of off to the left of us,

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and you know, once that tent started on zipping, I

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didn't hear any footsteps running away or something moving away

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from the tents, nothing like that. And that, I honestly

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think that's the most puzzling piece of the encounter to me,

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was that you think you would have heard footsteps or

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something running or laying down or anything. But whatever it was,

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it had to move from behind directly behind me to this,

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you know, off to the left of our camp to

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go throw rocks, and you know, I didn't hear any

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rocks getting picked up. I started thinking about it. I

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didn't even see many rocks laying around there. I mean,

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there were some small ones like in the rain rut,

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but that was a you know, that was that was it.

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So that was kind of the most puzzling aspect of that.

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And I've heard some theories over the years about how

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they can move silently and all that, but yeah, that

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was a that was a that was the most impactful

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experience I had, certainly, at least with what I presumed

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to be bigfoot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it sounds like a chilling experience. Why do

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you think they were displaying this type of behavior. What

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do you think their goal was.

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Speaker 2: I initially thought that, uh, it was maybe to scare

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us off, but I don't necessarily, I don't believe that anymore.

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And that could be partially because I've heard so many

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encounters now it's more and more common where people say

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that they're very interested in people and they just kind

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of want to see how you're going to react to

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things they do, or they just want to see you

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do something. And so now I sort of less so

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think because if they wanted to intimidate us and scare

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us away, they had two other knights to do it,

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and they could have been a lot more aggressive, you know,

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if they wanted to. But I mean, they just threw

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stuff into what they could have thrown stuff at us.

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So I think they were honestly just trying to get

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a reaction out of us, or just to see if

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we were awake. Maybe I don't they couldn't cross the river.

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Well if they could that I don't know how they would.

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But yeah, I think they were just trying to get

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a reaction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I know exactly how you feel. And

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when these things come around your campsite, it's definitely a

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chilling feeling put you on edge, and you just you

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can't put your finger on exactly what it is or

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what's going on in the moment.

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Speaker 2: No, And you know, after I had that experience, I

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my whole perception of how I heard Bigfoot stories because

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I had seen like Monster Quests and stuff, which is

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a great show. Sadly, like, I try to watch Monster

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Quests nowadays just as kind of a what do you

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call it, a novelty, you know, back in the day

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or whatever, But it's it doesn't necessarily hold up as

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much as I wished it would have. But at any rate,

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you when I I know how scared I was, So

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I can't imagine if you actually see something how scary that.

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I mean, I'm going from being frightened to death to like,

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I'm I don't know how my heart wouldn't stop beating

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if I actually had seen something that day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So you and another guy kind of

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believe that it possibly was sasquatch, Huh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's all that really makes sense

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to me. There's there's a lot of you know, the

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only other theory I had heard is that it was

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people doing it. But there's a lot of problems with that.

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I would have heard them moving around. How would they

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have launched those rocks from because when these rocks felt

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like when we heard the rock splash in the water,

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it's not like they just rolled them in there. I mean,

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they just they got lobbed in the air, you know,

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that's how big. The splashes were, huge splashes. So I

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just don't and I know that there's no other animal

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that can throw rocks, and not nevertheless rocks that big.

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So I'm pretty convinced. I mean, unless there's another unless

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it was ghosts or something. But to me, the most

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logical thing is that it was sasquatch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So what happened next? What's your next experience

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that unfolded after the camping incident?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was I think it was a few

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years later. And this one I only share because it's

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very interesting and I it was so much so that

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I contact the BFRO about the siding just because I

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thought it was noteworthy. But anyhow, this was right by

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Magadoor Reservoir Reservoir in Kent, Ohio. It's a really nice,

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peaceful little lake and I do know that they're on

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the BFR website. There is a history of sidings there.

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I believe it would be under Portage County, and if

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you go to Portage County you'll see you'll you'll see

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Magador Reservoir or Magador the town. But anyhow, I had

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some time during the day I was I was at

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the Can't State University at the time. I was actually

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getting working on my master's degree, and I had some time,

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uh during the day. It was between noon and two

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something like that. It was in April, but it was

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particularly humid that day, which that can happen in that

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area of the country. I think it has something to

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do with the Great Lakes being forty minutes north of

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the area. But it was very humid and it was warm,

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probably eighty something, which unusual for that time of year.

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But I was down at the lake and I was

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just just getting some nature time in. You know, you're

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at the university all day and there's tons of people

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and all that, so I just enjoyed it. It was nice.

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And as I was leaving, I was driving out this

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road it's called I used to go down the road

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all the time. I can't remember it, but it's off

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it's off of Magodor road and it leads to a

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boat ramp, so if people on a map wanted to

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see it, just following Maggoedoor Road, there's actually a bait

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shop right across the street from where this road is,

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so Maggodor Bait and Tackle. You could look there. Anyways,

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I was coming up the road and there's a gas

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line that runs through that road back there, and I

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was going along and on this gas line there's a

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hill that peaks from which behind you can't see anything,

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so it's the tallest point in the area. Well, anyways,

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I was going along and I saw someone up there

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like messing with this big wood pile. It was like

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a big brush pile, but it was all black, and

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I kind of slowed down and I was looking. I'm like, man,

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it's hot to be wearing that, And for whatever reason,

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I actually slowed down, and then I finally just stopped

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a little bit in front of this person's house and

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was just staring at it because it was pretty It

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seemed pretty big just from scale that I could see

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it so well, because I don't know how many I

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couldn't tell you how many yards away it was, but

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it had to. I'm not good at distances, but I

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mean it had to be two hundred yards or more,

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but it was enough for me to see a dude

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that I assumed was wearing all black, and it was

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hot and humid, and they're laboring over this woodpile and

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they're kind of like hobbling. But whatever it was, it

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was like grabbing branches and sort of like twisting them

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and bending them through other ones, and it was just

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like reaching over it and hobbling. You know. The movement

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was just kind of weird. And I cracked my window

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after a little bit, and I'm like, I wonder maybe

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the dudes up there were chainsaws and stuff. And it

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was odd for me because normally, if I thought it

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was a guy, would have never stopped. But for some

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reason I was. It didn't seem right. So I was

473
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:57,200
watching this thing just hobble and reach over this brush pile,

474
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,640
and it was kind of like working its way away

475
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,839
from me, and it just kept messing with that pile.

476
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,160
It was all black. I didn't see like a ad

477
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:13,160
on or anything, and from my perspective, from how far

478
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,839
away it was, I felt like it was just bigger.

479
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:22,079
It was a really big dude or something. But I

480
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,640
just watched it work over this brush pile until finally

481
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,680
it was like slowly working its way to the other

482
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,400
side of the hill until it went out of you.

483
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,319
And you know, back then, I think there was still

484
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,359
like just flip phones. But it never occurred to me

485
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,200
to take a picture or something, because I was just like,

486
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,519
what is that? But I'd realized that I had sat

487
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:46,519
there for like twelve minutes or or fifteen minutes something

488
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,799
like that, just watching it move over it. So I

489
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:54,839
obviously I didn't think bigfoot, but I was just like,

490
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,160
I didn't think it was a person either, because it

491
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,359
nothing about it seemed right. So I just watched it

492
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:06,720
go over the hill and I it just it just

493
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,599
didn't It didn't seem normal, even though it was doing

494
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,400
completely normal things, or at least it seemed like it

495
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,279
was just like messing with a brush pile. But like

496
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,640
what person if they're doing a brush pile in the

497
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,160
heat and all black, just you know, messing with little

498
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,400
branches and stuff. I just didn't understand it, but I

499
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,400
thought I thought it was interesting. I contacted bfo R

500
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,160
agent or yeah bf R O, and uh, I can't

501
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,279
remember his name, but you know, he was he said

502
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:44,680
he basically he said, unless you can confidently tell me

503
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,880
that you saw a bigfoot, I can't really post a report,

504
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,160
which I thought was kind of odd, but he was

505
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,279
he was kind of an he was kind of arrogant,

506
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,880
much unlike the guests you had on a few days ago.

507
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,920
That was a very he was a very interesting interview,

508
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:04,400
really interesting guy too. The Marsha I think it was. Yeah,

509
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,440
but so I reported that and he did say that, yeah,

510
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,000
there's a you know there there's a there was a

511
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,119
story about a guy who was fishing there with his

512
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,079
buddy and they had their bucket of fish up by

513
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:22,119
the truck and they were throwing catfish in there, and

514
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,279
it seemed like the pile was not increasing or the

515
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,039
bucket wasn't increasing, and then finally it was gone. So

516
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:31,799
and they said and then they said, I forget They

517
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:34,799
said something else happened, but it was, you know, definitely

518
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,920
indicative of bigfoot whatever it was. But that report's still

519
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,319
on there so you can see it.

520
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:48,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, really interesting. And what thoughts did you have in

521
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,559
the moment when you have that experiences?

522
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,839
Speaker 2: Well that that that was the thing I I it

523
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,920
was unusual for me and I didn't realize how unusual

524
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,920
it was until I left and I was like, what

525
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,960
was that? Because I really know, I was just watching

526
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,039
it and it was it was odd for me to

527
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:12,880
not think to like get my phone or something, but

528
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,800
I just it never dawn on me. And that was

529
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,559
after that experience. That was really when I finally understood

530
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:25,960
when people said, you know, I would listen to experiences

531
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,559
later on, of course of people where they would say like, oh,

532
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,159
it was one hundred yards away. I was in my car,

533
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,599
so I'm like, dude, you're safe. What I would the

534
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,679
first thing I would do was pick up my phone.

535
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,119
But that's when I really realized. I mean, I was

536
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,239
in no danger and this thing didn't even know I

537
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,239
was there. Well, I could have known, but it didn't care.

538
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,840
I mean, I was perfectly safe, and it never occurred

539
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,079
to me until I picked my phone up, and so

540
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,639
I wasn't thinking anything. I was just like, what is that?

541
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:01,159
Because I knew. I knew instinctively that it wasn't a person,

542
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,360
and if it was, then I don't know what It

543
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,079
was a huge dude wearing black, even his face was

544
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:16,119
covered to what twists, some twigs and eighty percent humidity

545
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,039
in the beating sun. You know, it was eighty degrees

546
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:20,280
so it wasn't too hot.

547
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: But still Yeah, and what stuck out the most.

548
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: Just that, uh well, large and black was the big thing.

549
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:34,679
But what was puzzling to me and what was compelling?

550
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,480
And I think the reason I stayed is maybe I

551
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:40,519
was trying to figure out what it was doing because

552
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:42,960
it was like leaning over and it was like, you know,

553
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,519
it was putting almost it's the whole top half of

554
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:49,159
its body over this big brush pile, and so it

555
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,679
was like really reaching over it. And then it's like,

556
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,320
what's it doing up there? Because you know, if it's

557
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,880
a dude that's just wearing long sleives and long pants

558
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,559
that are black, and I hear a chainsaw or something, yeah,

559
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:09,000
I get it. But it was just like casually messing

560
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:11,760
with these branches and just like moving them and then

561
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,639
really reaching over the top of the brush pile. So

562
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,880
that's what stood out to me.

563
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if it was a sasquatch, do you think

564
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:23,039
it was looking for like small game maybe like rabbits

565
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:26,559
or some type of crater in the brush.

566
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. It I felt like, well, thinking of

567
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,199
it now, maybe I don't. It didn't seem like that

568
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,760
to me, But I mean, what would I know, You know,

569
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,760
if I was guessing, I'd be like, maybe it was

570
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,840
building a shelter. I don't know why you build a

571
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,199
shelter for an undiscovered animal right out in the open.

572
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:50,639
Granted it was right next to a woodline. But the

573
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,760
one thing that was also puzzling to me about this

574
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,639
area is if you look at where my goodoor is

575
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:06,519
on Google Maps, there's not really a good forested corridor

576
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,639
that connects it to a larger forest. You know, that

577
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,800
area in particular, if you go west, it starts to

578
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,840
get pretty flat and a lot of farming and stuff

579
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,920
like that, and a lot of the tracts of land

580
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,119
are just pretty open. There used to be a lot

581
00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:28,519
of farming and you know, agriculture stuff. So I was

582
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:32,079
just thinking, man, this doesn't seem like a great place

583
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,559
for bigfoot, just because there's just usually if it's a

584
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,400
smaller if the forested area isn't that big, usually there's

585
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:45,320
a corridor where, you know, you have access to more forests.

586
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,400
So I thought that was kind of puzzling too, But

587
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:49,800
I still think it was odd.

588
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and it definitely sounds unusual. What happened after this,

589
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,519
did you have another encryptid experience? Did you have a

590
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:03,440
paranormal experience one unfolded later on in life?

591
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, those were the two. I guess you'd say, like

592
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:12,480
class B big foot encounters I've had. I've been out

593
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,280
in nature in the woods since and never never really

594
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,559
experienced anything. I tried to do a little bit of

595
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:27,320
big footing, but nothing, nothing that I can speak of.

596
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:33,960
But yeah, I did have a interesting experience. This happened

597
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,599
in This would have been around that same time frame,

598
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:47,519
maybe two thousand and seven to two thousand. Yeah, yeah,

599
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,920
probably two thousand and seven or so. The only reason

600
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,519
I remember is because I actually skipped a day of

601
00:38:53,880 --> 00:39:01,239
undergraduate classes. So but at any rate, this happened in uh, oh,

602
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:09,679
what's uh It's north of Sagamore Hills. Sagamore Hills, Ohio.

603
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:16,800
It's like northeast Ohio. My uncle they had a house

604
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:24,800
there and they the my great uncle he passed away,

605
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,159
and then my aunt she well, they were I'm sorry

606
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,119
great aunt and uncle, and she passed. My uncle moved

607
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,719
into the house next door to take care of them,

608
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,920
and she passed away maybe two years later or so,

609
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:50,360
well about within a week of her passing away, there

610
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,519
was a mysterious electrical fire at their house and it

611
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:59,639
had to be completely demolished. Well, my uncle inherited the

612
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:03,639
prop so he decided to move out of the place

613
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,719
next door and he was going to build a real,

614
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:13,440
real nice house where the old one stood. And as

615
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,400
it happened, they actually built the new house partially on

616
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,840
the old foundation, and that may have something to do

617
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,920
with it, but at any rate, Uh, me and my

618
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,400
dad went up to stay with my uncle and my cousin.

619
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:34,400
We were on a bowling league at the time, so

620
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,400
we went up Friday night. We were going to practice Saturday,

621
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:42,440
we were going to practice early, and I think the

622
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:49,000
tournament was that evening, So we got up there in

623
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,639
the evening, we hung out, we went bowling. We came

624
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,679
back and everybody was getting ready for bed. My uncle,

625
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,880
my dad, and my cousin, they all went upstairs and

626
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,320
I decided to sleep on the couch. And I'm sure

627
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:08,880
a lot of people can relate to me when I

628
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,519
say this, but I took my keys, phone, and wallet

629
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,000
and put him he had. The house was brand new,

630
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:19,119
so there was you know, the counters weren't cluttered yet

631
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,559
or anything, and He had a big table in the kitchen,

632
00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:26,320
and I put him like basically right in the center.

633
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,119
I'm like, nobody will mistake that for theirs. I won't

634
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:32,960
be able to lose it, it won't fall on the floor.

635
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:39,119
So I set my stuff there and I went to

636
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:45,159
bed sleep, slept on the couch and don't really remember anything.

637
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:50,119
I recalled like rustling around, but it really sounded like

638
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,000
somebody was going to the bathroom or something, and there

639
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:54,880
was a bathroom downstairs. So I just heard a little

640
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,239
rustling around. I didn't think anything of it and never

641
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:07,519
really came out of just sort of deep sleep. And

642
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,320
the next morning I started. I heard my uncle in

643
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,719
the kitchen, so I was kind of just laying there

644
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,760
and he's doing whatever. And then I hear my dad

645
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,159
come down and he says, hey, man, what were you

646
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:23,199
doing going through my pants? He goes, I wasn't going

647
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,800
through your pants. He said, well, Chris was my cousin.

648
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,440
He said, no, you would have heard him. He's still

649
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,760
in his room. He's asleep. You'd heard the door open.

650
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,480
He goes, well, somebody was going through my pants. And

651
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,199
there was a there was kind of some silence, which

652
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,639
I thought was weird, and my uncle said, so you

653
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,400
saw him too, And as soon as I heard that,

654
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,679
I got up, and because I'm I get pretty freaked

655
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:52,159
out about like ghost stuff, and so I instantly stood

656
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,760
up and went in there. And my dad said, what

657
00:42:56,039 --> 00:43:02,119
are you talking about? And he said, well, we've we

658
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:05,039
We've had just weird stuff happen. I'll be upstairs taking

659
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:08,679
a shower and it sounds like Thanksgiving parties going on downstairs,

660
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:11,480
and I think the TV's on, so I hear all

661
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,880
this noise, and even he said, even when he was

662
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,119
walking down the stairs, like you would hear the noise,

663
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,719
and then he gets to the bottom of stairs and

664
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,039
looks through the end of the living room that there's

665
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:25,800
no noise, no nothing. And he said my cousin would

666
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,000
be sitting at his computer and his laundry bag would

667
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,239
just fling like somebody kicked it or something. And then

668
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,360
he mentioned that somebody that was over there. I can't

669
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,280
remember who it was, but it wasn't my cousin or

670
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,519
my uncle, but they were there too. It's just this,

671
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,800
I can't remember who the person. I forget who, he said,

672
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,320
but they said they saw somebody just standing there for

673
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,920
a split second and then almost blink their eyes and

674
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960
they were gone, but they were very certain they saw

675
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,000
what it was. And uh, and so I'm freaked out.

676
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:03,199
And my dad said, well, I saw somebody standing over

677
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,079
the dresser where my clothes were, and I thought somebody

678
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:13,000
was going through my pants looking for something. And he goes, yeah,

679
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,440
it might have been uncle Eddie. You know that. That

680
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:20,239
was his name. And I'm like, oh geez, and I

681
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,039
just thought in my head, I'm like, well, I'm not

682
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:28,920
staying here tonight. So anyways, we get we all get

683
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,880
up and get going and we're getting ready to go

684
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,920
to the to go bowling, and I go to grab

685
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,480
my keys, phone and wallet and my wallet isn't there,

686
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:44,039
and I'm like okay, So I start looking and then

687
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:47,039
pretty soon they're kind of waiting on me, and then

688
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,639
they start looking for it. And we looked all over

689
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,519
that house. We looked everywhere it would make sense. We

690
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:57,880
even went out into his barn out back and was like,

691
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,400
because that's where he keeps all the trash bags and

692
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,800
we were like kind of looking through the trash. Even

693
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,239
though we didn't take any trash out. It was gone.

694
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:13,000
It whatever happened to it, we don't know. So we

695
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:19,239
go bowling and we come We do that, and we

696
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,079
come back and me and my cousin go upstairs. We're

697
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,079
gonna go in his hang out in his room. And

698
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,679
when we get up the stairs, you have to pass

699
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,119
by the room that my dad was staying in, and

700
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,519
you can see that dresser. It was very bright in there,

701
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:37,239
and you know it there was like I said, there

702
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,599
was like nothing on any of the surfaces because the

703
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:44,840
place is so new. And he says, there's your wallet.

704
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,400
And I thought he was joking, but I was looking

705
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,840
at it too, and I thought it was like a

706
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,079
trick or something. And I was like, we've you know,

707
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,960
we all looked up there a ton of times. But

708
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,440
there it was, sitting there, right in the middle of

709
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,440
the dresser, and there's one thing on it, and it's

710
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,239
a picture of my grandpa and it was sitting like

711
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,039
kind of right in front of it, and there it was.

712
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,679
I mean, we had looked all over the place. We

713
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,760
looked up there a ton of times and thought maybe

714
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,440
it was with my dad's stuff, but there it was.

715
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,400
And I thought, Okay, that's pretty crazy. So we go

716
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:28,719
it's just like, well whatever, but I was kind of

717
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,559
spooked because they had told me that they have you know,

718
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:35,920
they see apparitions, they hear stuff, stuff happens. So I

719
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:40,400
was really spooked. But at any rate, we go about

720
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,800
the day and then later on we get ready to

721
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,400
go get the to go bowling again, and we head

722
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:54,679
out and pretty uneventful other than we go to the

723
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,000
snack bar to get drinks and some food and I

724
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:01,360
see my cousin put his card out and give it

725
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,599
to the person, and I assume he hands it back

726
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:11,360
to him. Well, later on he goes up to buy

727
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,039
more stuff and he comes back and he's like, hey, man,

728
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:17,440
you got my card. I must have gave it to

729
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,159
you or something. And I'm like, no, I thought that

730
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,239
guy handed it back to He's like, I don't have it,

731
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:25,599
and so we started kind of looking around and we

732
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:30,000
couldn't find it anywhere. And they even made an announcement,

733
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,800
if you find this card, dig the front desk. And

734
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:38,719
the card never came up, so it was gone, and

735
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:42,360
you know, that's not that unusual. You know, it could

736
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,360
have fell trash can whatever. So we wrap up bowling

737
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,920
and then we head back to the house and I

738
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,280
go with my cousin. We go upstairs because he's gonna

739
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:01,599
go cancel his card, and we go up the stairs.

740
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,719
We walked towards his room, and when we get to

741
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:12,559
the room, his bed's made, which he never made. Everything

742
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,800
in his room was picked up, and in the middle

743
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:20,920
of the bed was his card and it was this.

744
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,440
It was the craziest thing. I couldn't I thought he

745
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:28,760
was messing. I thought it was somebody was messing with

746
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,760
us or something. And I said, oh, did did your

747
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,039
did your dad's girlfriend come over and clean the place

748
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,559
up or something? Was like, no, no, nobody's coming over here.

749
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,000
But his card, and he was like, this is my card.

750
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,880
And it was the card he used at the at

751
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:51,159
the bowling alley like hours earlier, and it disappeared, you know,

752
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:52,880
in the bowling alleys, like I don't know, it was

753
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:58,559
probably fifteen minutes away or something like that. And it

754
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:00,000
was just sitting there in the middle of the bed

755
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,760
and his bed was made, and he had stuff laying

756
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,760
on the floor and everything and everything was picked up,

757
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:11,119
and that just it just flipped me out. And I

758
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,559
share that story with everybody just because it's it's so inexplicable.

759
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,440
You know that the wallet thing is almost but I

760
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,119
realized that the wallet disappeared for the same reason the

761
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:26,159
card did, whatever that reason was, but I could chalk

762
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,400
the the wallet thing up. But the card thing was

763
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:32,679
just insane to me, and I was so I was

764
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,360
really I've never seen anything any any ghosts or anything

765
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,440
like that, but I mean I was. I was pretty spooked,

766
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:45,239
and I thought to myself, well, I'm definitely not staying. Well,

767
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,440
sure enough that night. It was it was late by

768
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,039
the time we got back, and we didn't necessarily plan

769
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:57,840
to stay, but sure enough we did. And it was

770
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:04,519
weird because that night was the worst windstorm in Northeast

771
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,920
Ohio in like the last twenty five years. And for

772
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,239
some reason that night, I don't remember what it was,

773
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,639
but I ended up sleeping in his room. I think

774
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,840
it was because they were they were like up watching

775
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,320
TV or something, and I was just trying to fall asleep,

776
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:24,760
and which I don't know why I did it now,

777
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,559
but I woke up in the middle of the night

778
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,159
and somebody left the hall light on and you know,

779
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,360
this wind is just raging and you can hear the

780
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,760
trees right outside the window and stuff. So that was

781
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,360
spooky enough. And I'm laying in the bed just expecting

782
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:42,920
a head to pop out or something all the rest

783
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,679
of the night and nothing. Nothing happened that night, oddly enough,

784
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:53,880
but that was just that was crazy to me, that

785
00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:00,440
a physical object could travel somehow. And it's not like,

786
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:03,239
you know, somebody went up there before us, like my

787
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,760
dad went up to the room before us and at

788
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,000
least threw the card on the bed. I mean, we

789
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,400
were the first ones up there. And how his card

790
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,159
got there, I just I'll never never know. But obviously

791
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:21,679
they had something about money or cards because they my

792
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:27,199
great aunt and uncle. They they weren't like ultra wealthy,

793
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,800
but they the place they worked it was like a

794
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,280
bottling company, and they were offered stock in these companies

795
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,800
like AT and T or something that were kind of

796
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,119
new or I don't know what it was, but they

797
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:41,280
made a lot of money and they were you wouldn't

798
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,639
have known it. They were pretty tight with money. So

799
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,000
it was I don't know if that has something to

800
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:51,559
do with it or not, but I thought I would

801
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:55,119
share him because I remember another person sharing a paranormal

802
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:57,440
encounter and I thought people would like to hear that.

803
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I appreciate you for sharing that with me.

804
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,679
That's definitely a spooky situation there. I've heard that with

805
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,320
paranormal activity that people's keys go missing or objects or

806
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:14,480
misplaced and then reappear, And yeah, man, that's that's definitely

807
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:16,000
a scary situation there.

808
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my my dad had mentioned and he had

809
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,840
told me this long before he and he was It's

810
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,960
not that he didn't want to believe or anything, It's

811
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,440
just he had never had conceringe enough experiences. But I

812
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,800
think it was when another like grandparent or something passed away.

813
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:40,960
When we were at the funeral, my dad said he

814
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,760
saw Uncle Eddie there. And this was before we had

815
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,360
stayed at their house, but he said he saw him

816
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,679
there or something, and I just kind of remember that

817
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,599
now and then he's said he saw him again, so

818
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,239
he had some ability to see it. But yeah, the

819
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,639
the I've heard that too, the keys and all that.

820
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And yeah, it definitely sounds like bigfoot activity

821
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,559
what you shared, and I would definitely classify that as

822
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,119
cryptid activity. And it sounds like these creatures were either

823
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,800
being territorial or just making their presence known and they

824
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,840
were just in the area before you guys went out

825
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,719
there camping, and that's usually what happens. People go out

826
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,079
to these wilderness areas and they set up camp and

827
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:35,599
then these things let you know that they're around.

828
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I certainly learned that it would have been

829
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:46,920
cool if something would have happened the next night, you know.

830
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:53,199
And I always, I so sincerely regret not lifting my

831
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,679
head and looking. But I mean, at the same time,

832
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:02,440
I couldn't. So I just always that I always look

833
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:05,159
back and regret at that, but I know that it

834
00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:09,000
was an impossibility because I was genuinely too scared to

835
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:16,239
do so. And you know, with the with the walking, uh,

836
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,920
with not making noises when it moved, like no footsteps

837
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,440
or anything. That was always bizarre to me. And I

838
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,559
just I would love to know what these things are.

839
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:32,239
It's and I'm very conflicted because you know, uh it

840
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:36,519
for me, it used to be pretty a basic flesh

841
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:41,199
and blood biological creature, but they seem to have abilities

842
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,800
that defy that. And uh, I I do know that

843
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:55,719
for a uh a on uh what is it in

844
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:02,199
uh for an unknown species to stay unknown, it has

845
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:08,239
to remain unknown necessarily, so that aspect of it, and

846
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:13,039
you know, I hear people complain it's like, well, you

847
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:15,320
think with all these sightings and all this thing that

848
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,119
somebody would have shot one, and you know that I

849
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:22,800
understand why people say that and how that's a reasonable

850
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,280
thing to think. You know, I think of the area X.

851
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,239
You know, I've been hearing about them since the mid

852
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,239
two thousands or twenty tens at least, you know, hearing

853
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,960
about the stuff they have going on up there, And

854
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,400
it's like, geez, if you have these things in your

855
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:44,400
gun sights every weekend or at least every time you

856
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,159
go up there, Like, what ability do they have that

857
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:56,559
they evade that they evade getting hit by a cat? Well,

858
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:58,079
I know people have said they got hit by cards,

859
00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:58,920
but you know what I mean.

860
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: And were you guys fishing in the area when you

861
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,880
guys went out there to camp.

862
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did not much, but you know, we had

863
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:12,119
poles and people were just ran. We grab a pole

864
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:14,320
and throw it out in the water. I did the

865
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,400
most fishing. I don't actually recall catching any fish though.

866
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,840
If I did, it was when we were on the boat. Yeah,

867
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,079
but yeah, we did do some fishing.

868
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,119
Speaker 1: And that could have something to do with the activity.

869
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:32,159
I hear that a lot when people are fishing off

870
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:32,679
of the river.

871
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: That's interesting. Maybe that's a competing for food or something.

872
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it. And these things will get

873
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,320
territorial and they'll let you know.

874
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I was, I was going to ask you something. Well,

875
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,360
I was kind of curious. I'm sure you've done this

876
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,480
on the show before, so you don't have to share

877
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:01,599
or brief about it if you have, but I was

878
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:06,280
kind of curious where you're at with the what bigfoot

879
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,960
actually is. I've heard other people's takes, but I don't

880
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,239
believe i've heard yours. I know the type of research

881
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,960
you do, so I think I know, but I was curious.

882
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think it's some sort of

883
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:28,599
unknown primate species or hominid, but I also believe it's supernatural.

884
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,800
It has something to do with what the Bible refers

885
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,760
to as the Nephelon. There were giants in those days,

886
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,880
and there were they were breeding with like different animals

887
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,519
and they created like human animal hybrids. So that that's

888
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:47,119
kind of what I believe. But I don't really know.

889
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:47,960
What do you think?

890
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: Well, I think my initial theory was that it was

891
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,199
just it was a species that ust the land Bridge

892
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:05,000
and knew of it was it must have been a

893
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:09,920
very tribal people and knew that their existence depended on

894
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:16,280
them being isolated, separate, and very careful around the other species.

895
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,440
Maybe that was you know, the early humans or whatever,

896
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,760
and maybe they branched off and they went to the

897
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,639
woods where they could commune with their gods. And I

898
00:58:26,679 --> 00:58:32,000
believe when an indigenous people, or at least a people

899
00:58:32,679 --> 00:58:36,519
unexposed to the outside world, when they're in communion with

900
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:43,320
whatever spirits, God or nature that they worship and observe,

901
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:49,599
I believe that that gives them powers that we don't have.

902
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:54,559
And I'm not saying powers like they can conjure tidal

903
00:58:54,599 --> 00:58:58,079
waves and separate seas or anything like that. I just

904
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:04,920
mean that, well, they know what the birds are indicating

905
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,559
when they chirp in a certain way, or they can predict,

906
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:13,039
you know, weather patterns, and if they do a ritual,

907
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,400
they can reasonably expect that rain will fall or the

908
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:24,559
crops will grow, or they can smell humans. And I

909
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:31,159
don't think that, you know, after Christianity, I think since

910
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:35,199
it wasn't an indigenous religion, that it sort of separated

911
00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:38,280
people from that power that they may have initially had.

912
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:41,880
And I think that maybe that's that's part of why

913
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:46,800
the Bigfoot still have these abilities they do, I mean,

914
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,039
they can do they do crazy things, and I've never

915
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:53,280
seen one, but I mean I've heard enough encounters, and

916
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,079
I don't necessarily believe all all the encounters, but I

917
00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:01,159
know that I've heard so many people on your show

918
01:00:01,199 --> 01:00:04,360
and others that they're just they're honest people, and they

919
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,199
don't they have no especially now, you know, Bigfoot stories

920
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,960
used to make money in the seventies and eighties, maybe

921
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,599
even the nineties, but now, I mean with the with

922
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,199
all the shows and all the encounters, I mean just

923
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,480
everyday people are finally you know, it's no risk to

924
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:26,840
them anymore. And so I mean, I know these things

925
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:31,679
are just capable of crazy things, but that's generally my

926
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,519
best guess. And I mean I'm not I'm not discounting

927
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:43,679
or negating the possibility that it's some government experiment or something.

928
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,800
And that's not to say that it's fake or a

929
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,719
hoax or something, but that maybe I think they certainly

930
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,079
know what it is, or at least they document it.

931
01:00:56,119 --> 01:00:59,599
I mean, we've heard plenty of stories about military bases

932
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:05,440
them documenting it and all that. So after the year

933
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:09,039
twenty twenty, you know, I'm much more cynical about things

934
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:13,239
like that, so I can't discount that, but I tend

935
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:15,679
to think it's more simpler than that.

936
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a very applausible theory. All right, Jim,

937
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,039
you did an excellent job at sharing your experiences and

938
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,880
you described everything with great detail. So thank you for

939
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,679
contacting me and for your patience. And I'm just really

940
01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:36,920
glad that you were able to come on the show

941
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,360
and share everything, everything that you had with the audience.

942
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,320
That really means a lot.

943
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, no problem, it was great speaking with you.

944
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,239
I hope everybody enjoys it.

945
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:50,679
Speaker 1: I want to thank Jim for coming on the Sasquatch

946
01:01:50,719 --> 01:01:54,400
Theory podcast and sharing his experiences openly with the public.

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Encounters like these leave more questions and answers, especially when

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multiple witnesses experience the same thing at the same time.

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I honestly can't even pronounce the name of the river

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in Pennsylvania, but from the river experience to the strange

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activity near Magador Reservoir in Ohio, these stories remind us

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just how much mystery still exists in the forest and

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waterways of America. If you have had your own encounter

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and would like to share it on the channel. You

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can contact me directly at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com.

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And I really appreciate all the viewers for watching the videos,

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and you guys really help to keep this channel going

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and spreading this information out there to the public. And yeah,

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if you guys can definitely contact me by the email. Lately,

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there's been a lot of people adding me on my

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personal Facebook page and sharing their experiences with me rather

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than using like the Sasquatch Theory Facebook or my Sasquatch

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Theory email. And it's been a little because I feel

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like it's invading my personal space just a little bit.

965
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I'll post photos of me and my family and people

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will just start commenting about dog Man and Bigfoot and

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my past videos, which it's okay, people don't know. But still,

968
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if I post a photo of me and my little

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nieces together, don't comment about Bigfoot or dog Man. It's

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just has nothing to do with some of the photos

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that I'm posting. So here in the future, I'll be

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mindful of who I add, and yeah, just contact me

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at the Sasquatch Theory email and let's keep the reports

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with the channel and not with my family and the

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personal life that I have going on out there. I

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do have a life separate from sasquatch theory. But yeah,

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I'm not trying to gripe or complain, but I just

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want people to know that there are other outlets out

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there other than posting about dog Man. When you see

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a photo of me at church with my family or something, okay,

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So I just want people to be mindful of that.

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And it's okay because you guys don't know, and I

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just wanted to make that clear.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much for watching and for

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everything you guys do. And I hope to get more

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reports in the future about cryptied creatures and hopefully we

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can gather a better understanding as to what's going on.

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And if you believe these are just unknown cryptied creatures

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out in the woods that hasn't been discovered by science,

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let me know down in the comments. Or if you

992
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believe it's something spiritual and these beings are interdimensional and

993
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traveling through portals and coming from their world to ours,

994
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or if it's some sort of demon shape shifting into

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an unknown creature, let me know down in the comments.

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I want to see what you guys think about all

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this and until the next Bigfoot report, you guys be

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safe out in the woods.